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- 0:18Speaker 3: I don't think people gave enough credence to just how
- 0:23Speaker 3: bad the defense was last year. I mean, it was
- 0:25Speaker 3: like the bane of my existence at times watching the
- 0:27Speaker 3: film back, you know they're going out and they're adding
- 0:29Speaker 3: guys that I'm sorry, you're not gonna draft them to
- 0:32Speaker 3: your fantasy team. This is real football, right Like, this
- 0:35Speaker 3: is where the game is won and lost.
- 0:37Speaker 4: All know, we're saying, and I didn't want to put
- 0:40Speaker 4: my nose up. Who are you getting in the fourth
- 0:42Speaker 4: pick that's going to be better than AJ Brown?
- 0:44Speaker 5: Right now?
- 0:44Speaker 4: No, nor next year.
- 0:46Speaker 3: It concerns me that Kyle doesn't see him as a file.
- 0:51Speaker 4: It concerns me that Kyle doesn't see him the way
- 0:55Speaker 4: I do. This is not a small statement. That was
- 0:57Speaker 4: the worst offensive line I've ever seen that day they
- 1:00Speaker 4: played the Patriots last year. That was the worst offensive
- 1:02Speaker 4: line was doing. That's part of my reasoning here. They
- 1:07Speaker 4: couldn't even block the gunner. That's the worst offensive line
- 1:11Speaker 4: performance I've ever I just and I just knock them out.
- 1:15Speaker 3: What I do, Like, there's nobody that knows fullbacks better
- 1:17Speaker 3: than that guy.
- 1:19Speaker 4: No one has lost more big games than that guy,
- 1:21Speaker 4: he says.
- 1:27Speaker 6: So my problem bothered.
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- 1:38Speaker 6: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is a big
- 1:42Speaker 6: Thursday here at Jilletts Stadium. Right off the bat, I
- 1:46Speaker 6: just want to let everyone know what's going on obviously
- 1:49Speaker 6: this show. Uh At one o'clock, we'll have a live
- 1:53Speaker 6: press conference from the gpah Troom here at je Lette Stadium.
- 1:56Speaker 6: It'll be Robert Krafft, Mike Rabel, Elliott Wolf and all
- 2:00Speaker 6: the free agents that are around today. They'll be coming
- 2:02Speaker 6: up to the podium. So we'll go to that live
- 2:05Speaker 6: at one o'clock. When it's done, we'll come back to
- 2:07Speaker 6: the show and we'll just keep going. We'll have reactions,
- 2:11Speaker 6: So look forward to us going beyond two o'clock today,
- 2:15Speaker 6: and who knows, maybe we'll have a guest. Oh, you
- 2:18Speaker 6: never know, maybe somebody will stop by today. I don't know,
- 2:22Speaker 6: but it's a big show, so very exciting, but also
- 2:26Speaker 6: breaking news this morning. Bittersweet news. I guess there's nothing
- 2:31Speaker 6: sweet about it, but I guess, yeah, you could say
- 2:34Speaker 6: it's bittersweet. I mean, he had a great career. David
- 2:36Speaker 6: Andrews has been released by the Patriots. What's the next
- 2:40Speaker 6: step for him? I don't know for sure, don't know
- 2:42Speaker 6: what he's thinking, but he is he has been released
- 2:46Speaker 6: by the Patriots. So reaction. It's Evan, it's Paul, it's Duced,
- 2:51Speaker 6: it's Alex, it's Matt Nabooth.
- 2:54Speaker 8: The reaction, I think is just I think there are
- 2:56Speaker 8: certain guys that just embody what the Patriots kind of
- 2:59Speaker 8: stood for being an undrafted free agent coming here, getting
- 3:03Speaker 8: a starting job, you know, being a part of two
- 3:05Speaker 8: Super Bowl teams. I you know, wrote up a little
- 3:08Speaker 8: thing about him. I found a quote from Bill Belichick
- 3:10Speaker 8: a couple of years ago, just praising him for his toughness,
- 3:12Speaker 8: his leadership. And that's just been a consistent theme for
- 3:15Speaker 8: the whole time I've been here in the locker room,
- 3:17Speaker 8: hearing guys talk about David Andrews missed most of last year,
- 3:20Speaker 8: had health concerns. I mean I remember him saying, I
- 3:23Speaker 8: hope that the surgery gives me a chance to play.
- 3:25Speaker 8: So I don't know how much the injuries playing into
- 3:27Speaker 8: that as well, but he's you know, you just have
- 3:29Speaker 8: to tip your cap to him. He gave everything he
- 3:31Speaker 8: could to this organization. It's it's sad that it's ending,
- 3:34Speaker 8: but he's been just a legendary leader here, you know,
- 3:38Speaker 8: for this team and meant so much. So it's it's sad,
- 3:40Speaker 8: but you know, you got to praise his career because
- 3:43Speaker 8: he did a lot.
- 3:44Speaker 4: Great story and I thought Devin mccordy tweeted about it
- 3:47Speaker 4: a little earlier when he found out the News played
- 3:49Speaker 4: every snap of that preseason preseason Yeah back in whatever
- 3:54Speaker 4: it was fifteen. Is that his rookie year and that's
- 3:57Speaker 4: how he made the team and carved out a role
- 3:59Speaker 4: and you know, emerged as the starting center for a
- 4:02Speaker 4: long time undersized guy. You know at times, you know,
- 4:06Speaker 4: had trouble with some of the bigger, more talented interior
- 4:10Speaker 4: defensive lineman. You know, Quinn Williams with the Jets was
- 4:12Speaker 4: one who doesn't but yeah, exactly, and just competed, you know,
- 4:18Speaker 4: throughout his career. And I think Mike is right about
- 4:21Speaker 4: you know, this captains and this leaders. But I think
- 4:24Speaker 4: David Andrews a little different in that regard. I think
- 4:26Speaker 4: he was, you know, at a special level like a
- 4:30Speaker 4: Matthew Slater almost, you know, in terms of leadership. So
- 4:33Speaker 4: they'll miss him, I think a lot more off the
- 4:36Speaker 4: field at this stage of his career. And I'm a
- 4:38Speaker 4: little surprised they didn't give him an opportunity to show
- 4:42Speaker 4: that maybe he could still be a viable option at center.
- 4:45Speaker 4: But if it's a pure football thing, I'm not gonna
- 4:48Speaker 4: sit here and you know, curl up in the fetal
- 4:50Speaker 4: position in the corner and say what did they do
- 4:52Speaker 4: to David Andrews. I think they're going to miss a
- 4:54Speaker 4: lot more than just the football though.
- 4:56Speaker 9: I just say one more thing.
- 4:57Speaker 8: I just how many guys can go from being an
- 4:59Speaker 8: undraft the rookie to a captain, you know, in their
- 5:02Speaker 8: second season. I mean that's just it's a kind of
- 5:04Speaker 8: unheard of and it's just that speaks how specially was Yep.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Yeah, perfect offensive lineman, like just exactly what you think
- 5:10Speaker 3: of that position. Leadership, toughness, Uh, sets a tone, you know.
- 5:15Speaker 3: It's one of those guys that always would you know,
- 5:19Speaker 3: I would have the quarterbacks back, like someone hits the
- 5:22Speaker 3: quarterback late first one in there is six. Yeah, just
- 5:26Speaker 3: an old school, hard nosed guy. Not a ton of
- 5:29Speaker 3: those guys types of guys left.
- 5:30Speaker 6: So has he said anything?
- 5:33Speaker 4: He hasn't.
- 5:34Speaker 3: You know, he has that podcast now with Brian Hoyer,
- 5:36Speaker 3: So maybe I think there's a They were kind of
- 5:38Speaker 3: teasing on Twitter that maybe they were going to do
- 5:40Speaker 3: a show about it. So I think that you know
- 5:43Speaker 3: that's coming potentially, But just it's a tough spot to
- 5:48Speaker 3: be in for the team because I do think he
- 5:50Speaker 3: was starting to show some decline in his play even
- 5:53Speaker 3: before the injury last year, and then you pile the
- 5:55Speaker 3: injury on it. But there's always this line to walk of.
- 5:59Speaker 3: This is a great Patriot, you know, this is a
- 6:02Speaker 3: this is a guy that I think you might be
- 6:04Speaker 3: in the Patriots Hall of Fame down the line. And
- 6:06Speaker 3: so then you put that into it, You're it's not
- 6:09Speaker 3: just simply a football decision. You're you're you're releasing somebody
- 6:13Speaker 3: from the organization that means a lot.
- 6:15Speaker 10: Yeah, off the field too, like I can definitely speak
- 6:18Speaker 10: to countless visits to children's hospitals, bowling fundraisers that benefit
- 6:23Speaker 10: Boston Children's pancake breakfasts at domestic violence shelters. I mean,
- 6:29Speaker 10: you could put David Andrews in any room and he
- 6:32Speaker 10: would talk to someone like he was just a guy
- 6:34Speaker 10: who's so down to earth and just so cool and
- 6:37Speaker 10: funny and like the lowest points of the season, you
- 6:40Speaker 10: could go to da for a stupid TikTok or to
- 6:43Speaker 10: go speak at podium, you know, and he was just
- 6:46Speaker 10: that guy for them, and it's just lost a real one, reliable.
- 6:50Speaker 6: Yeah. I wonder the reason I asked, has he said anything?
- 6:54Speaker 6: I just wonder how much he's going to give Dante
- 6:58Speaker 6: Scerneki a credit for his development, because you know, we
- 7:01Speaker 6: talk about, like, boy, you know, how rare is it
- 7:03Speaker 6: for that undrafted guy to emerge, become a starter his
- 7:07Speaker 6: whole career and be the captain. And you know, we
- 7:10Speaker 6: were talking on Tuesday about Wineman and how yeah, you
- 7:14Speaker 6: got to get him in, but you got to develop
- 7:16Speaker 6: these guys. You got to get him playing as a unit.
- 7:18Speaker 6: And I wonder how much Scarnakia helped him become who
- 7:22Speaker 6: he is in the NFL.
- 7:24Speaker 3: Yeah, when I wrote the Scarnacia going into the Hall
- 7:27Speaker 3: of Fame of Patriots Hall of Fame, I David Andrews
- 7:30Speaker 3: is one of the persons people that I spoke to,
- 7:32Speaker 3: and he couldn't have been more complimentary of Scar and
- 7:36Speaker 3: told some great stories about him. So that's on the website.
- 7:39Speaker 6: And so the second part of that is if David
- 7:42Speaker 6: Andrews came into our life two years ago, would he
- 7:46Speaker 6: have been able to do when he did?
- 7:48Speaker 11: That's a great question.
- 7:48Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it's impossible to know.
- 7:52Speaker 4: And I understand exactly where you're going.
- 7:55Speaker 6: You know where I'm going.
- 7:56Speaker 4: So I would just say that I think David Andrews
- 8:00Speaker 4: didn't get drafted because he wasn't quite big enough. I
- 8:03Speaker 4: think he played at Georgie, he played at a very
- 8:05Speaker 4: high level in college. He did and probably had an
- 8:07Speaker 4: awful lot of ability, but was underside.
- 8:09Speaker 6: Good pedigree too few of Dan Reeves absolutely so.
- 8:14Speaker 4: But I think, you know, just wasn't quite big enough. Now,
- 8:17Speaker 4: this is why I said, I think I know where
- 8:19Speaker 4: you're going, like we Will Campbell's arms don't quite big enough.
- 8:23Speaker 6: Like well, it wasn't.
- 8:24Speaker 4: Necessarily he does have the ability. Obviously, Will Campbell is
- 8:27Speaker 4: talented enough to play in the NFL.
- 8:28Speaker 6: You got it half right. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't.
- 8:32Speaker 6: Will Campbell specific, it was just if you get solid
- 8:35Speaker 6: guys who are coachable, five good players there and have
- 8:40Speaker 6: a base of talent, you can make a good offensive line.
- 8:43Speaker 6: You don't necessarily look, it always helps to have Orlando
- 8:46Speaker 6: Brown or Tyron Smith, but you don't have to have
- 8:49Speaker 6: those guys to have a good line.
- 8:52Speaker 8: Yeah, I just thought it was interesting just to tie
- 8:54Speaker 8: it to Washington. I think we all talked about I'm
- 8:57Speaker 8: forgetting the name of the rookie tackle that they drafted
- 8:59Speaker 8: last year and play left Coleman, but they still felt
- 9:02Speaker 8: the need to go up and kind of upgrade him.
- 9:04Speaker 9: Wonder how he's gonna be.
- 9:05Speaker 3: He wasn't good, He's going to move inside. It sounds
- 9:08Speaker 3: like the guard, which is what a lot of people
- 9:09Speaker 3: thought coming out. Same with Kayden Wallace. So I hear
- 9:13Speaker 3: a Fred saying, though, you know, good coaching, five good guys,
- 9:16Speaker 3: five coachable guys, I would take five David Andrews Scenarioy like,
- 9:21Speaker 3: you know it just not every guy is wired like that.
- 9:25Speaker 3: You know, he was truly wired with a motor like
- 9:27Speaker 3: that guy. Every single play emptied the tank consistently, and
- 9:32Speaker 3: he's a really good player. I mean, he turned out
- 9:34Speaker 3: to be a really good player.
- 9:35Speaker 5: Yep.
- 9:35Speaker 8: I think one of my favorite just visual memories from
- 9:38Speaker 8: David Andrews was in that Kansas City AFC Championship game,
- 9:42Speaker 8: raving buy as soon as they ran it in and
- 9:43Speaker 8: he's doing elaborate in front of the.
- 9:45Speaker 3: Field, you know that.
- 9:48Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not always one to talk to the fans
- 9:52Speaker 6: like that in but that game, like it was such
- 9:55Speaker 6: a hard fought game, and oh it was just this
- 9:59Speaker 6: release of emotion. And for everybody after.
- 10:01Speaker 4: That, is that the year at the parade that he
- 10:03Speaker 4: went shirtless parade.
- 10:06Speaker 9: Always I don't know. I didn't I didn't get to
- 10:09Speaker 9: go to the parade. So they did go to the
- 10:11Speaker 9: Super Bowl parade.
- 10:12Speaker 4: Fred and I usually anchored the parade coverage from right here, and.
- 10:15Speaker 6: I've never been to one parade.
- 10:18Speaker 4: Do not go to the tu duck boat that they did,
- 10:21Speaker 4: but we're just not on it.
- 10:23Speaker 9: No, it was on its scale.
- 10:24Speaker 4: We're working.
- 10:26Speaker 6: Yeah, you double fisting.
- 10:31Speaker 9: The content to drink on a duck boat.
- 10:33Speaker 3: I was on the boat.
- 10:34Speaker 6: See this guy's on a duck boat.
- 10:36Speaker 4: He was on the p U duck boat before he
- 10:37Speaker 4: was even remembered.
- 10:38Speaker 6: Was that the clinics at the time, it got a
- 10:41Speaker 6: whole boat. They had their own duck boat.
- 10:44Speaker 3: The station got the road on the duck boat. It
- 10:47Speaker 3: was cool.
- 10:47Speaker 10: I was standing on the Boston Commons very as a fan, right.
- 10:52Speaker 6: Yeah, very drong.
- 10:55Speaker 3: It was cool to like, you know, it was not
- 10:57Speaker 3: only like one or two people, but some people like
- 11:00Speaker 3: saw me like that. I was actually friends with that.
- 11:02Speaker 3: My friends were in the crowd and they were like,
- 11:05Speaker 3: how did he get out of that boat?
- 11:07Speaker 8: They told me to come to the stadium, and here
- 11:10Speaker 8: I am, because.
- 11:11Speaker 6: We're going down a rabbit hole. But we rate everything.
- 11:14Speaker 6: We have lists. I wonder if there's someone who's qualified
- 11:17Speaker 6: to rate the Patriots parades.
- 11:19Speaker 8: Wow, it's a good question out to the city of
- 11:21Speaker 8: Boston for you know, what the traffic and arrest were like.
- 11:24Speaker 6: That probably be some good days.
- 11:27Speaker 10: The arrested for standing on an ambulance shout out, Billy.
- 11:31Speaker 3: Wasn't that all of them though? So that's Ernie Adams.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Maybe maybe Ernie Adams was at all of them. He
- 11:37Speaker 3: might be someone, Yeah, yeah.
- 11:40Speaker 6: I could. Some people that work here might be able to.
- 11:43Speaker 4: I'm sure everybody that's been here as long as we
- 11:45Speaker 4: have would be able to do that.
- 11:48Speaker 9: YouTube depressed guys like everyone's at a.
- 11:50Speaker 4: Party one year and I don't I don't remember which
- 11:55Speaker 4: one it was, but there was one year that like
- 11:59Speaker 4: there was so little movement in the admin level that
- 12:02Speaker 4: the lights were We're working on the paper.
- 12:06Speaker 8: Right and you're just throwing your hands up every time,
- 12:08Speaker 8: like we're working up and we're watching on TV and
- 12:11Speaker 8: then we see a duck balls, like why the hell
- 12:13Speaker 8: are they?
- 12:15Speaker 6: That was like the departments on a boat, you know,
- 12:22Speaker 6: the parking department. But I guess it was good that
- 12:27Speaker 6: people did get to know absolutely that they should get there.
- 12:31Speaker 6: You know, it's not really sour Graves.
- 12:33Speaker 4: And if we could have been there if we wanted to.
- 12:36Speaker 4: It's not like we weren't invited.
- 12:37Speaker 8: You know, like a live cast during like just on
- 12:40Speaker 8: the on the boat that was from the boat.
- 12:42Speaker 4: And we've talked about.
- 12:44Speaker 9: That in my pitch next year, next year, next week.
- 12:46Speaker 4: We've talked about it. It's not really we have the technology, yeah,
- 12:50Speaker 4: but the boat camp it.
- 12:52Speaker 10: Would be a music an issue with the music and licensing.
- 12:56Speaker 4: Like like the Celtics did it for their parade back
- 12:59Speaker 4: in eight and it was a mess because they you know,
- 13:02Speaker 4: like that's their station. So there's just too much.
- 13:06Speaker 10: You probably haven't a stationary set, like not really on
- 13:10Speaker 10: the duck boat, but kind of how like like ron
- 13:12Speaker 10: or See Burton does his thing during parades like there,
- 13:15Speaker 10: or like the Macyz Parade where the anchors are just
- 13:17Speaker 10: kind of sitting there.
- 13:18Speaker 6: You have one duck boat. On the top of it
- 13:20Speaker 6: is a desk, a literal desk desk. We're standing sitting
- 13:23Speaker 6: behind it like going down the streets.
- 13:25Speaker 4: It's kind of a marathon, the marathon every year, right,
- 13:29Speaker 4: so I understand why a million two million people would
- 13:33Speaker 4: go to the parade like cool, Like if if I
- 13:36Speaker 4: was like twenty, I wouldn't miss it for the world,
- 13:38Speaker 4: you know, the marathon. I'm going to be on the
- 13:42Speaker 4: side of the road and I'm going to have a
- 13:43Speaker 4: couple of beers. I'm going to enjoy the day and
- 13:45Speaker 4: watch the runners go by. Am I going to spend
- 13:48Speaker 4: thirty seconds watching it on TV? When I'm not experiencing it?
- 13:52Speaker 4: Like it's not like an that you that's something you
- 13:55Speaker 4: need to catch on TV, you know, It's like that.
- 13:59Speaker 4: I never understood the wh Celtics thing when they did that.
- 14:01Speaker 4: They have never felt Felger was like throwing it back
- 14:04Speaker 4: to Greg Diggerson and like it was such a mess,
- 14:07Speaker 4: and I'm like, who's watching this?
- 14:09Speaker 8: It'd be funny though with like just stick like Evan
- 14:11Speaker 8: on one of the boats and and just go to
- 14:13Speaker 8: him from time to time.
- 14:14Speaker 9: But let him, i know, have a couple of bud
- 14:15Speaker 9: lights while he's on there.
- 14:16Speaker 12: All right, We'll going back to Evan.
- 14:17Speaker 8: And you know it's slowly he's descending into just madness.
- 14:21Speaker 4: Watching the twenty four.
- 14:23Speaker 9: It's like I'm on the twenty twenty six.
- 14:25Speaker 6: Mother.
- 14:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I was at the Celtics parade this past Celtics
- 14:29Speaker 3: Championship and like it had been a while. What is
- 14:32Speaker 3: Boston I know, but like it had been a minute
- 14:34Speaker 3: since they had won a major sports title, and like
- 14:37Speaker 3: it kind of felt like some of those older ones
- 14:39Speaker 3: because there was kind of a break and winning and
- 14:42Speaker 3: it was really cool, like there was there was a
- 14:44Speaker 3: ton of people. I mean, I think it was like
- 14:46Speaker 3: a million and a half people in the city that day.
- 14:48Speaker 6: So, yeah, I can see Evan. Is that Alex Barth's
- 14:51Speaker 6: body surfing down Newberry Street?
- 14:53Speaker 8: Oh that's the play that you're giving that you're giving
- 14:56Speaker 8: the sports up. Another gem of Barth on the Barth
- 14:58Speaker 8: on a duck boat getting drunk.
- 15:01Speaker 6: No one wants to see that, all right. So, but
- 15:03Speaker 6: we were talking about David Andrews.
- 15:06Speaker 10: One more thing on David before we move on, is
- 15:08Speaker 10: like we've been talking a lot about like guys not
- 15:10Speaker 10: wanting to come to New England and this and that,
- 15:13Speaker 10: and like it's not desirable, but like it was so
- 15:15Speaker 10: cool to see him and his wife Mackenzie like totally
- 15:18Speaker 10: embrace it here, like they became New Englanders. They were
- 15:21Speaker 10: vacationing in Chatham. Like it's just nice to see, you know,
- 15:25Speaker 10: like they really appreciated the region and everything it had
- 15:28Speaker 10: to offer and just I don't know, it's just you
- 15:31Speaker 10: don't always see that, you know.
- 15:33Speaker 8: So with a lot of ducks and turkeys around here,
- 15:36Speaker 8: I think that was part of the draw.
- 15:37Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure, that population will be.
- 15:39Speaker 4: There's a lot of guys. Alex makes a good point.
- 15:41Speaker 4: And I do think that the Boston area in general,
- 15:44Speaker 4: in all four sports, well, I would say the three sports.
- 15:48Speaker 4: I think probably hockey is different play the other three.
- 15:52Speaker 4: I think they sometimes have a hard time attracting high
- 15:56Speaker 4: end free agent talent, but once they get it, yeah,
- 15:59Speaker 4: they love it.
- 16:00Speaker 10: Yeah for sure.
- 16:01Speaker 4: And like Kevin Garnett famously did not want to get
- 16:04Speaker 4: traded to the Celtics, and now he loves everything about Boston.
- 16:08Speaker 10: And I don't know if you guys heard too, Mookie
- 16:10Speaker 10: Bets pretty recently was on a podcast just glowing about
- 16:14Speaker 10: how much he loved the city and loved being here.
- 16:16Speaker 10: And it's just like, I don't understand how it gets
- 16:18Speaker 10: such a bad especially if you have.
- 16:22Speaker 13: It.
- 16:22Speaker 10: But it's also cold in Buffalo and in like the.
- 16:26Speaker 4: Minnesota, Buffalo attracts talent.
- 16:28Speaker 10: Well no, but like it's not that.
- 16:31Speaker 8: Cold, like grow up, I mean all the other stuff
- 16:34Speaker 8: like aside, Like I just think you have to it's
- 16:36Speaker 8: not for everybody, but you have to respect the fans
- 16:38Speaker 8: here that the fans care and there. I mean, I
- 16:40Speaker 8: lived in California for a while. It saw kind of
- 16:42Speaker 8: a contrast of you know, not having sports radio drive
- 16:45Speaker 8: conversation and you know, so when people come here like
- 16:48Speaker 8: Kevin Garnett, who be you know, maybe a little skeptical,
- 16:50Speaker 8: but then they're embraced by the city.
- 16:52Speaker 4: But it's not easych it matters to the city and
- 16:55Speaker 4: I would think that would be a great environment to
- 16:57Speaker 4: play in any of the sports because really it's all
- 17:00Speaker 4: for the sports. The fans really are invested in they
- 17:02Speaker 4: care about the success.
- 17:03Speaker 10: And you can't tell me there's a better place to
- 17:05Speaker 10: be the New England in the fall. And frankly I
- 17:07Speaker 10: lean that way for the summer too. I think there's
- 17:09Speaker 10: no way better place to be than like the summer anyway.
- 17:13Speaker 6: And you really are you know, if you're Kevin Garnett,
- 17:16Speaker 6: you're a big fish in a smaller pond, you know.
- 17:19Speaker 4: Well, that's part of what they don't like too much.
- 17:22Speaker 4: Sometimes you can't lose because those guys go out in
- 17:25Speaker 4: Boston and they're immediately notice where they go out in
- 17:29Speaker 4: New York. That's true, and no one notices it's get.
- 17:31Speaker 9: The private room upstairs.
- 17:32Speaker 6: That's true.
- 17:32Speaker 10: Well yeah, yeah, they all have their at the clubs,
- 17:36Speaker 10: in the restaurants.
- 17:36Speaker 3: But I think that is a bit especially for the basketball.
- 17:40Speaker 3: You're at a bar in Boston and Jason Tatum, like
- 17:43Speaker 3: everyone's going to know it's Jason Tatum, right, So like
- 17:45Speaker 3: you can't really La New York.
- 17:48Speaker 4: You can Miami, but it's only they just blend.
- 17:51Speaker 6: Like those are like the only three places that happen.
- 17:53Speaker 6: Maybe Chicago, Yeah that's it.
- 17:55Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think it's more also like in those
- 17:57Speaker 3: places there's other celebrities, right, So, like he's got Keith Lockhart,
- 18:02Speaker 3: and famous is Jason Tatum is Like it might be
- 18:06Speaker 3: somebody that's even more famous that he's with, you know,
- 18:08Speaker 3: that is drawing all the attention. But this is the
- 18:11Speaker 3: last thing on David Andrews. I.
- 18:13Speaker 6: Oh, you're you're saying that this is the last thing.
- 18:15Speaker 4: He wants to get back.
- 18:17Speaker 3: Yeah, get back to football. I don't know if this
- 18:21Speaker 3: is the end for him in terms of retirement, but
- 18:23Speaker 3: he has talked a lot about like he's gonna be
- 18:26Speaker 3: around the game post playing career. I would not be
- 18:29Speaker 3: surprised if he gets into coaching, Like I wouldn't be
- 18:32Speaker 3: surprised if if he's an offensive line coach someday, you know,
- 18:36Speaker 3: not right away. But he's definitely said that he doesn't
- 18:39Speaker 3: think that he could be away from the game for
- 18:42Speaker 3: too long. You know, he's got that itch to still
- 18:45Speaker 3: be coaching.
- 18:46Speaker 6: Disaster two years ago, we were told that he was
- 18:49Speaker 6: actually a de facto coach.
- 18:51Speaker 10: Yeah, that's why I'm kind of surprised, Like they didn't,
- 18:53Speaker 10: just like Paul was saying earlier, give him a shot
- 18:55Speaker 10: at least, like at least to camp to prove himself
- 18:58Speaker 10: see if he still has it in the tank and
- 18:59Speaker 10: then be kind of like that James Farrens type role,
- 19:03Speaker 10: like kind of player Coachy.
- 19:05Speaker 4: I don't know, ironically, he may and I don't know
- 19:08Speaker 4: exactly how this is going to play out or who's
- 19:10Speaker 4: going to win the job, but he may have really
- 19:13Speaker 4: trained his replacement with Cole Strange. He you know, he
- 19:16Speaker 4: spent a lot of time with Cole Strange, say last
- 19:20Speaker 4: October November as as Cole was coming back from his
- 19:24Speaker 4: injury and training him to play center. And he played
- 19:28Speaker 4: what the last two games, three.
- 19:29Speaker 6: Games yea LUs two starts.
- 19:31Speaker 4: So I mean I would think right now he would
- 19:33Speaker 4: be the leader in the clubhouse on the depth chart.
- 19:35Speaker 4: And I don't know if Ben Brown would be ahead
- 19:37Speaker 4: of him because he played more games, but I would
- 19:39Speaker 4: lean to Cole Strange.
- 19:41Speaker 6: Dave wants to know, Dave O'Neill, is Jake Andrews still
- 19:43Speaker 6: on the team.
- 19:44Speaker 9: He is, He's another low ranking option.
- 19:46Speaker 8: I mean, I think the interesting thing to me is
- 19:48Speaker 8: you look at Ben Brown and Cole Strange seem kind
- 19:49Speaker 8: of different dudes. You know, Cole Strange seems a little
- 19:51Speaker 8: bit more athletic. Ben Brown seems a little bit more big.
- 19:54Speaker 8: I'd love to know how they view those guys. We
- 19:57Speaker 8: only saw Jake Andrews I think two years ago as
- 19:59Speaker 8: a guard. We didn't see him. I think he was
- 20:00Speaker 8: kind of seen as a center, as a kind of
- 20:03Speaker 8: a pure center initially, so he's only a center in college. Yeah,
- 20:05Speaker 8: so they have some options to consider. It's not like
- 20:08Speaker 8: it's we got nobody, but you don't. You just don't
- 20:10Speaker 8: know what those guys. They might not think anything of
- 20:12Speaker 8: those guys.
- 20:12Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 20:13Speaker 3: I mean Jake Andrews was drafted to be David Andrews's replacement.
- 20:16Speaker 3: Like you don't draft a center in the fourth round
- 20:20Speaker 3: to not, you know, play down the line. So that
- 20:23Speaker 3: was Bill's plan at the time, was to draft Jake
- 20:25Speaker 3: Andrews and have him study under David Andrews for a
- 20:28Speaker 3: year or two and then pass the torch. But he
- 20:30Speaker 3: hasn't been able to.
- 20:32Speaker 8: He's almost, I would say, like David Andrews in the
- 20:34Speaker 8: sense of smaller athletic wrestling background. You know, like all
- 20:38Speaker 8: three of those guys are, they just each have a
- 20:40Speaker 8: different flavor.
- 20:41Speaker 3: The wrestling background was the big one with Jake Andrews.
- 20:43Speaker 3: I think I did the profile on him coming out.
- 20:46Speaker 3: So this is all coming back to me now. And
- 20:48Speaker 3: Jake Andrews like big wrestler, like state champion wrestler, and
- 20:51Speaker 3: you know, grappling and leverage and all that kind of buzzwords.
- 20:56Speaker 6: Yeah, Jacket and ABA wants to know what Andrews leaving
- 21:01Speaker 6: does that affect the draft? Is it more likely now
- 21:04Speaker 6: that they'll trade down to get more picks.
- 21:07Speaker 9: I don't think so.
- 21:08Speaker 8: I mean, I definitely think it puts center more on
- 21:09Speaker 8: the you know, on the menu. But like we said,
- 21:12Speaker 8: they do have some options. I mean maybe, for all
- 21:14Speaker 8: I know, they could say col Strange is gonna be
- 21:15Speaker 8: a really good center. We believe in him.
- 21:17Speaker 6: I don't.
- 21:17Speaker 8: I don't know if that's the case or not, but
- 21:19Speaker 8: I think center you got to consider it as part
- 21:21Speaker 8: of it.
- 21:21Speaker 4: I don't think you need to trade down. I think
- 21:23Speaker 4: Evan just explained it. You know, Jake Andrews was probably
- 21:26Speaker 4: drafted with that thought in mind. That's a Day three pick,
- 21:29Speaker 4: and I think they have a handful of Day three perck.
- 21:31Speaker 4: I think they have three. They have three seventh rounders,
- 21:34Speaker 4: you know, and I'm not just saying, well, you can
- 21:36Speaker 4: just draft a guy in the seventh round and there
- 21:38Speaker 4: you go. No, like but back to Fred's theory of
- 21:41Speaker 4: you draft a guy fifth, sixth, seventh round with the
- 21:44Speaker 4: idea of developing him. Yeah, and that's you know, you
- 21:47Speaker 4: have to hope that your coaching staff has improved, right,
- 21:49Speaker 4: they'll be able to do some of these things. Doug
- 21:51Speaker 4: Marrome will be able to develop some of these guys.
- 21:53Speaker 8: Then you reflect back on David Anders doing that as
- 21:56Speaker 8: an undrafted rookie. You know, it's not a position you're
- 21:59Speaker 8: counting on at all, and you know, to get that
- 22:01Speaker 8: kind of bonus, I just think it speaks overall to
- 22:03Speaker 8: the Patriots roster needs that they need a couple surprises,
- 22:06Speaker 8: like they need a couple guys that maybe we've given
- 22:08Speaker 8: up on, or players that are under the radar that
- 22:11Speaker 8: emerge in and play, you know, like it happens a
- 22:13Speaker 8: lot in the NFL.
- 22:13Speaker 9: I mean it's not common.
- 22:14Speaker 8: I know that those of those things are relatively rare,
- 22:16Speaker 8: but it does happen for each team you find those gems.
- 22:19Speaker 8: I mean, it's happened a bunch of times with this team.
- 22:21Speaker 9: It just hasn't happened lately.
- 22:22Speaker 8: There hasn't been you know, maybe Pop Douglas, but even
- 22:24Speaker 8: he was kind of highly regarded as a you know what,
- 22:27Speaker 8: he is, a little slot guy.
- 22:29Speaker 9: But you know, it's just been it's been too hard.
- 22:31Speaker 8: They've hit on their top picks the last couple of years,
- 22:33Speaker 8: but they've got to find more contributions from the lower
- 22:35Speaker 8: round guys.
- 22:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not too concerned about center in terms of
- 22:39Speaker 3: drafting it high or anything like that. I know, I
- 22:42Speaker 3: think center is one of those positions that I would
- 22:44Speaker 3: say is probably the easiest to replace on the offensive line,
- 22:48Speaker 3: just because you're uncovered a lot of the time, so
- 22:50Speaker 3: you're not actually going one on one against guys very often.
- 22:53Speaker 3: Especially nowadays, you know, there aren't a lot of true,
- 22:57Speaker 3: like true nose tackles like e Vince wik that's just
- 23:00Speaker 3: lining up over the center every single play. So I
- 23:04Speaker 3: don't have a ton of concern, Like you want somebody
- 23:06Speaker 3: obviously to procedurally can handle the position, snap the ball,
- 23:09Speaker 3: make the calls, all that kind of stuff, and then
- 23:12Speaker 3: ideally someone that can run block at a decent level.
- 23:15Speaker 3: But most of the time that those guys are you know,
- 23:18Speaker 3: you're half sliding, and you're sliding to help the guard
- 23:21Speaker 3: more more times than not than actually blocking somebody that's
- 23:24Speaker 3: head up over you. You know, if you're really rough
- 23:27Speaker 3: in pass protection, teams will target the center if that's
- 23:30Speaker 3: really a weak link. But you have to be, you know,
- 23:33Speaker 3: the worst guy on the line. I would say to
- 23:35Speaker 3: have them do that.
- 23:36Speaker 8: It's interesting just to think about Josh and how Josh
- 23:39Speaker 8: liked to have the quarterback make all the calls. Last
- 23:41Speaker 8: year with Alex van Pelt, the center was making the calls.
- 23:43Speaker 8: Is Josh going to revert back to that or you know,
- 23:46Speaker 8: I think part of the least initial appeal with having
- 23:48Speaker 8: David Andrews back was well, you know, it's Josh and
- 23:50Speaker 8: I don't know what the offense is going to be,
- 23:52Speaker 8: but you at least know that they have an established relationship.
- 23:54Speaker 8: He understands how Josh wants things to run. What's going
- 23:57Speaker 8: to happen this year? You know, is it going to
- 23:59Speaker 8: be put on Drake Man? Is it going to potentially,
- 24:01Speaker 8: you know, stick with Ben Brown or whoever ends up there.
- 24:04Speaker 8: But I was gonna ask you, just like, what were
- 24:05Speaker 8: your impressions last year of Ben Brown and Cole Strange
- 24:07Speaker 8: when you were when you broke down those guys.
- 24:09Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Ben Brown started well and then kind
- 24:12Speaker 3: of fizzled out towards the end. I think he got
- 24:14Speaker 3: banged up a little bit and some injuries might have contributed.
- 24:17Speaker 3: But run blocking is a big guy like you mentioned,
- 24:20Speaker 3: so I think he can move people in the run game,
- 24:22Speaker 3: but he struggled a little bit in pass protection later
- 24:26Speaker 3: on and as the year progressed. I had a couple
- 24:28Speaker 3: of rough games down the stretch there before the injury,
- 24:30Speaker 3: and with Cole Strange, I think the biggest thing with
- 24:33Speaker 3: him is just leverage. Like center is a position that
- 24:35Speaker 3: you want to play low, you want to be underneath people,
- 24:39Speaker 3: and he's a little bit tall, in a little bit
- 24:41Speaker 3: wiry for center, so like that would just be the
- 24:45Speaker 3: one concern you mentioned Jake Andrews. Like Jake Andrews is
- 24:47Speaker 3: like a block right, Like he's like a low to
- 24:50Speaker 3: the ground kind of guy. Same with David Andrews. So
- 24:54Speaker 3: I think both those guys can can play center adequately.
- 24:57Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that I'm crazy gung ho either one
- 25:00Speaker 3: of them is going to be anything close to elite
- 25:03Speaker 3: at that position, but I don't think that they're completely
- 25:05Speaker 3: written off either.
- 25:08Speaker 5: D In.
- 25:10Speaker 6: Where's he from? I think he's from Australia. Yeah, No,
- 25:13Speaker 6: Dana Virginia, Michigan's unless the team knows that Andrews is retiring.
- 25:18Speaker 6: It's a classless move to cut someone who has been
- 25:21Speaker 6: a class act both on and off the field, which
- 25:23Speaker 6: made him one of the few bright spots in recent years,
- 25:26Speaker 6: a year in the right to at least be given
- 25:27Speaker 6: the chance to show he could still do it. I
- 25:30Speaker 6: don't know the details. I got a feeling that this
- 25:32Speaker 6: is mutual, This is a true mutual parting of ways.
- 25:36Speaker 6: Maybe I don't know.
- 25:37Speaker 4: I don't know about that, but we'll find out, and
- 25:39Speaker 4: I will say that financially, I mean again, I don't
- 25:45Speaker 4: know the details, but financially it would seem that this
- 25:47Speaker 4: is better for David Andrews, Like, if he has to
- 25:49Speaker 4: announce his retirement, then he's not going to get whatever
- 25:52Speaker 4: money is owed to him because he's forfeiting that, and
- 25:55Speaker 4: by releasing him, financially it probably is better for David.
- 26:00Speaker 5: Right.
- 26:00Speaker 4: But I'm not sure that he wanted to I'm not
- 26:02Speaker 4: he might retire, but I'm not sure he wanted to retire.
- 26:05Speaker 10: I think he's the type of guy that just wanted
- 26:07Speaker 10: to go till the wheels literally fell off.
- 26:08Speaker 4: Do you remember when, like in the podcast, with Brian,
- 26:11Speaker 4: Like during the season he said, my goal is to
- 26:16Speaker 4: have this surgery so I have a chance to play.
- 26:19Speaker 4: So hard to believe that something changed between say November
- 26:23Speaker 4: and now.
- 26:23Speaker 10: It was really important to him that his son's got
- 26:25Speaker 10: to see him play too, and I know his little toddler,
- 26:28Speaker 10: Ford kind of did. I don't know if he's old
- 26:30Speaker 10: enough to understand, but he has a newborn too. I
- 26:32Speaker 10: think maybe like not.
- 26:34Speaker 8: Even got about seven more years and is gonna remember anything.
- 26:39Speaker 4: He had the newborn during camp. I think he missed
- 26:41Speaker 4: a couple of days.
- 26:45Speaker 6: Anthony writes in First Sat to see Andrews grow go
- 26:48Speaker 6: pretty surprised by the move and seems like they just
- 26:50Speaker 6: must be doing him a solid by giving him the
- 26:53Speaker 6: chance to go to a contender. Can't see the justification otherwise. Second,
- 26:57Speaker 6: I'm very much biased as a Michigan dirt, but have
- 27:00Speaker 6: spent time in New England in the summer, and I'll
- 27:02Speaker 6: say this, Alex, you can't beat Michigan in the fall summer.
- 27:06Speaker 6: We have all the foliage of New England, Superior beaches
- 27:09Speaker 6: as their fresh water in Detroit and Grand Rapids. If
- 27:12Speaker 6: you want some city life, my fellow Michigan doors will
- 27:15Speaker 6: hopefully defend me on this Lake Michigan for July October
- 27:19Speaker 6: can't be beat.
- 27:20Speaker 10: I'm sure it's great, but like the ocean's the ocean.
- 27:23Speaker 6: Where do you go skiing up in Michigan.
- 27:24Speaker 4: I don't know if you're more of a if you're
- 27:28Speaker 4: more of a fresh water guy. We have that too,
- 27:31Speaker 4: We have we have great lot.
- 27:33Speaker 6: They don't have the Great Lakes, the Great Lakes.
- 27:39Speaker 4: If it's a fresh water, like, yeah, it's huge.
- 27:44Speaker 10: I really like Michigan, I really really do. But like
- 27:47Speaker 10: you can't say the foliage is as good because like
- 27:50Speaker 10: the mountains and the Berkshires, the White Mountains Vermont, like
- 27:54Speaker 10: you can't compare, like those compare, like it's just a
- 27:58Speaker 10: marvel in the.
- 27:59Speaker 14: Fall to.
- 28:05Speaker 10: Because the mass comes sponsor me.
- 28:09Speaker 6: We were talking about this before the show, talking about
- 28:12Speaker 6: the seasons and is it true that things happen in
- 28:19Speaker 6: the fall, spring, and summer but they happen over the winter.
- 28:26Speaker 8: It's a good question because we also like things happen
- 28:28Speaker 8: over the summer too, right, but not never really over
- 28:30Speaker 8: the fall.
- 28:31Speaker 9: We'll do that over the fall.
- 28:33Speaker 6: Or over the spring, over the now.
- 28:35Speaker 12: I don't know.
- 28:37Speaker 6: So anyway, I think wants to do with.
- 28:39Speaker 10: The school calendar, Like you have a long break in
- 28:41Speaker 10: the summer, you got a long break in the winter,
- 28:44Speaker 10: over the summer, over the.
- 28:45Speaker 4: Big day, their little show's history. They've rendered me speechless
- 28:49Speaker 4: for the first time in twenty plus years.
- 28:51Speaker 8: But they're both winter and summer, both little contained things
- 28:54Speaker 8: that you know, people try to do specific things during them.
- 28:56Speaker 8: So like over the summer, you're usually going on your vacations,
- 28:59Speaker 8: you're maybe going to the beach a lot. Over the winter,
- 29:01Speaker 8: you're maybe going on vacation or ski trips.
- 29:03Speaker 9: So I don't know. That's 'm spitballing here, all right.
- 29:09Speaker 6: Bill in San Diego says, maybe I missed something, But
- 29:11Speaker 6: has the door been officially shut on Strange competing for
- 29:14Speaker 6: the left guard spot. If so, why no one mentions
- 29:17Speaker 6: them anymore except to play center?
- 29:19Speaker 4: No strangers mentioned all the time?
- 29:22Speaker 3: Yeah, I think those he could play in either of
- 29:24Speaker 3: those spots.
- 29:24Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think when before we knew that David
- 29:27Speaker 4: Andrews was going to get released, people said, is it
- 29:30Speaker 4: Cole Strange?
- 29:31Speaker 12: Is it City?
- 29:31Speaker 4: So Jake Andrews again, because he played a lot of
- 29:35Speaker 4: guard when he was a rookie. That's sort of I
- 29:39Speaker 4: think everyone always describes it as sort of a sneaky
- 29:43Speaker 4: need that people don't really talk about a lot, but
- 29:45Speaker 4: they don't. You know, Leyden Robinson is he Is he
- 29:47Speaker 4: going to be the left guard? They don't really. They
- 29:49Speaker 4: have a lot of bodies and a lot of options,
- 29:52Speaker 4: but no answers. And I think Cole Strange is one
- 29:55Speaker 4: of those bodies at both Guardian Center. Feels no answer.
- 29:58Speaker 9: Creative one of them could could.
- 30:00Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like there's a chance that they look
- 30:02Speaker 3: at it and say, well, with better coaching with Josh McDaniels,
- 30:06Speaker 3: with Doug Moron, with Rabel that one of these recent
- 30:10Speaker 3: draft picks, we should be able to get one starter
- 30:13Speaker 3: out of Strange Robinson. So I maybe Jake Gantre, but
- 30:18Speaker 3: he hasn't been healthy, Like we should be able to
- 30:19Speaker 3: get one starter out of those three guys on the line,
- 30:22Speaker 3: and now you need two right unless you And this
- 30:26Speaker 3: is why I've been saying all along that I would
- 30:28Speaker 3: like to see them sign a veteran left guard and
- 30:30Speaker 3: just solidify that spotlight they did with right tackle, because
- 30:33Speaker 3: I think that's a risk. I think it's a risk
- 30:35Speaker 3: to say two spots on the interior are just going
- 30:38Speaker 3: to be kind of thrown to the wind, and you
- 30:40Speaker 3: hope that one of these guys is good enough to
- 30:43Speaker 3: play the position. I would like to see somebody there
- 30:45Speaker 3: with some experience.
- 30:46Speaker 6: So does this increase the likelihood of drafting Campbell knowing
- 30:52Speaker 6: that at least you're going to get a guard out
- 30:54Speaker 6: of them.
- 30:56Speaker 4: It could, It's possible.
- 30:57Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 30:58Speaker 9: I just I like what Evan's saying.
- 30:59Speaker 8: I mean, I was just thinking, perfect world, that Leyden
- 31:01Speaker 8: Robinson would come back and you know, be grow into
- 31:04Speaker 8: that role and just you know, to have a rookie
- 31:06Speaker 8: contract and a guy you've already worked with that I
- 31:08Speaker 8: think that's the ideal scenario. I just wonder where this
- 31:10Speaker 8: all these Kyden Wallace, you know, I don't know if
- 31:12Speaker 8: he has any potential to slide inside. Is he just
- 31:15Speaker 8: kind of going to be treading water behind Morgan Moses
- 31:18Speaker 8: until maybe he gets banged up, or you know, is
- 31:20Speaker 8: he going to have any kind of real opportunity because
- 31:22Speaker 8: I do think, like throw last year out, coming out
- 31:26Speaker 8: last year, King Wallace was seen as like a developmental
- 31:28Speaker 8: right tackle, you know, so maybe a guy maybe miscast
- 31:30Speaker 8: last year for somebody.
- 31:32Speaker 9: Yeah, but you know that's.
- 31:32Speaker 4: What he was seen as a guy that went a
- 31:34Speaker 4: little too early, right, sure.
- 31:35Speaker 8: But now we're in year two and so maybe that
- 31:38Speaker 8: development does that start to kick in. We were asking
- 31:40Speaker 8: him to come in and be the left tackle last year.
- 31:41Speaker 8: That seeing sounds a little crazy, you know, but maybe
- 31:45Speaker 8: he maybe he maybe there's something there too. There's just
- 31:47Speaker 8: so much uncertainty. I can't imagine just releasing all of
- 31:50Speaker 8: those guards that they've drafted over the last couple of years.
- 31:53Speaker 8: They've really they can't all be missus, can they?
- 31:56Speaker 5: Like?
- 31:56Speaker 9: That's I guess when I'm where I'm landing.
- 31:57Speaker 3: Yeah, in City so too played decent with Bill O'Brien
- 32:01Speaker 3: in a similar offense. And if they're gonna be more
- 32:04Speaker 3: of a downhill gap run scheme with McDaniels like he's
- 32:08Speaker 3: done in the past, I think those guys are better
- 32:10Speaker 3: fits in that type of scheme, you know, strange probably
- 32:12Speaker 3: better for zone. But Robinson so Wallace, like, those are
- 32:16Speaker 3: power blockers. Those are power oriented players, and if you
- 32:19Speaker 3: put them in downhill schemes and maybe they are serviceable
- 32:23Speaker 3: in some of those roles. I think Ken Wallace moving
- 32:25Speaker 3: inside was something that people thought maybe in the draft,
- 32:28Speaker 3: was going to happen to him. Anyways, in the NFL.
- 32:31Speaker 3: You know, it's flipping sides on top of that, but
- 32:34Speaker 3: there's a really good track record of moving college tackles
- 32:37Speaker 3: inside the guard ye and they're really high level pass
- 32:40Speaker 3: protectors because they're used to black blocking on the on
- 32:43Speaker 3: the outside. So maybe he can be one of those
- 32:45Speaker 3: guys that converts and plays guard.
- 32:48Speaker 6: Camel from Atlanta. Three things. I think Andrews is retiring
- 32:52Speaker 6: because of the Robert Craft statement and Mike that Mike
- 32:55Speaker 6: g Reaes put in his story that this could be
- 32:57Speaker 6: like when the Patriots released Julian Edelman. So remind me
- 33:00Speaker 6: of what that situation was like, do you remember.
- 33:03Speaker 3: I don't remember the exact details, but I think Paul
- 33:06Speaker 3: it had to do with money.
- 33:07Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 33:07Speaker 4: I think Paul going to say this, if David Andrews retires,
- 33:10Speaker 4: it's because he doesn't want to play for anybody but
- 33:12Speaker 4: the Patriots. I believe he still wants to play. That's
- 33:15Speaker 4: my feeling, and until I see something that he says,
- 33:19Speaker 4: concerts of that. That's what he has said, and I
- 33:22Speaker 4: think that it's very possible that he doesn't have interest
- 33:24Speaker 4: in playing for another team, so therefore he will retire
- 33:27Speaker 4: since that team then the only team that he wants
- 33:29Speaker 4: to play for doesn't want him. He's going to retire.
- 33:32Speaker 4: This is not Julian Edelman, Like.
- 33:34Speaker 3: I don't remember what Julian Edelman was like, Well, Julian
- 33:37Speaker 3: Edelman's knees gave out like he had.
- 33:40Speaker 4: But I also wonder, and he didn't want to play anymore.
- 33:43Speaker 3: Is there a chance that David and I'm just hypothetically,
- 33:46Speaker 3: is there a chance that David Andrews shoulder is not
- 33:49Speaker 3: bouncing back?
- 33:50Speaker 4: Yes?
- 33:50Speaker 3: Right, And just like Julian Edelman's knee did not bounce back,
- 33:53Speaker 3: you know, David Andrews is now recognizing he's gone through
- 33:56Speaker 3: some checkpoints with doctors and stuff like that, and they're
- 33:59Speaker 3: just like, it's just not.
- 34:00Speaker 4: Going to want to tell me this is physical. Then
- 34:02Speaker 4: I would absolutely listen.
- 34:04Speaker 3: That's the only way I would say what you said.
- 34:06Speaker 3: I would just you know, potentially be physically.
- 34:09Speaker 4: It could be just that he can't do it anymore
- 34:11Speaker 4: and he knows it.
- 34:12Speaker 6: Yeah. Kamel also wonders, how are we feeling that Joe
- 34:16Speaker 6: Cardona and Juwan Bentley if you count him, are the
- 34:19Speaker 6: only Dynasty players on the team now.
- 34:22Speaker 3: I kind of like it. Yeah, I think it's time.
- 34:25Speaker 3: Like I think it's time to happen eventually, right, And
- 34:27Speaker 3: I think that those guys, as great as all those
- 34:29Speaker 3: players were at a time, I think you were holding
- 34:32Speaker 3: on to something that just isn't doesn't exist anymore.
- 34:34Speaker 6: It doesn't help you, right, like Rabel said, yeah, it
- 34:38Speaker 6: doesn't help me, right.
- 34:39Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And I think that a lot of people,
- 34:42Speaker 3: you know, you'd hear a while well, back in the
- 34:44Speaker 3: good old days and we were winning super Bowls, and
- 34:46Speaker 3: it's like after a while, you know, you have to
- 34:48Speaker 3: have a new culture and you have to have.
- 34:50Speaker 8: A new I really like the move for Washington sign.
- 34:52Speaker 8: I mean that both future Wise and Jonathan Jones are
- 34:55Speaker 8: gone there, but I really like the Jonathan Jones move
- 34:57Speaker 8: for them. That feels like that team where they're trying
- 34:59Speaker 8: to go right now to get a versatile member of
- 35:01Speaker 8: their secondary can play a number of positions, has that leadership,
- 35:05Speaker 8: has the you know, the experience in big games that
- 35:07Speaker 8: I think that's a slam dunk for them. We'll see
- 35:08Speaker 8: how teachri Wise fits in, but.
- 35:10Speaker 4: But it's similar to what they did last year. They
- 35:12Speaker 4: made some moves that you know, obviously much more important,
- 35:15Speaker 4: like the quarterback, but they also had you know a
- 35:19Speaker 4: handful of sort of veteran guys that were past their
- 35:23Speaker 4: primes a little bit that they brought in and hopes
- 35:25Speaker 4: that Bobby Wagner would happen. You know, maybe they're hoping
- 35:28Speaker 4: Jonathan Jones can do that for their secondary sort of
- 35:31Speaker 4: not necessarily you know, become this pro Bowl level cornerback
- 35:36Speaker 4: that he's never really been, but just be a solid
- 35:39Speaker 4: piece playing communication guy, locker room guy. Jonathan Jones another
- 35:45Speaker 4: pretty you know, pretty solid character player.
- 35:49Speaker 10: No, we lost my three favorite players twenty four hours yesterday.
- 35:52Speaker 4: We buried the league.
- 35:55Speaker 10: Mourning, I really am, Like, I mean, I get it,
- 35:58Speaker 10: but like I know, I will, but like d church
- 36:01Speaker 10: Wise and John Jones, especially d A two, but I
- 36:06Speaker 10: just have so much respect and appreciation for who they
- 36:08Speaker 10: are as people. And they're just such really really intelligent
- 36:12Speaker 10: guys and not just football intelligent, like real life intelligent.
- 36:16Speaker 10: Both of them I could talk to all day about history, food,
- 36:20Speaker 10: cult like just there's so much there. And they were
- 36:23Speaker 10: just great guys that you want in a locker room, like,
- 36:26Speaker 10: they have great values, they're great family men. Like it's
- 36:30Speaker 10: it's a loss for the locker room for Shure.
- 36:31Speaker 4: I didn't really think of it, but Alex, It's like
- 36:34Speaker 4: I don't really go in the locker room on a
- 36:36Speaker 4: regular basis anymore. Those are the last guys that I knew.
- 36:39Speaker 10: Like it's it's a loss that community too, Like John
- 36:43Speaker 10: and d Church especially, like they're not just like showing
- 36:47Speaker 10: up with a smile to these great events that the
- 36:49Speaker 10: foundation puts on, like they are in the grassroots planning
- 36:53Speaker 10: it themselves. Like John Jones did so much for our
- 36:56Speaker 10: local schools and our local kids. D Church wise, he
- 36:59Speaker 10: would a block party in Mattapan every year, and he
- 37:02Speaker 10: would bring in tens of thousands of dollars worth of
- 37:05Speaker 10: fresh produce and food and have just a free farmers
- 37:07Speaker 10: market for people in the community to just come take groceries.
- 37:10Speaker 10: And it's just like, I don't know, like so many
- 37:14Speaker 10: guys do great stuff in the community, but not at
- 37:17Speaker 10: the level that they were. And it's just they were
- 37:20Speaker 10: just so great to talk to. I'm really gonna miss them.
- 37:23Speaker 6: And then finally from Camel, I didn't get to watch
- 37:25Speaker 6: many Patriots games on TV. Was Jalen Hawkins good or bad?
- 37:29Speaker 9: I mean special team? Are fill in guy?
- 37:31Speaker 8: I mean yeah, yeah, depth signing, I like, I mean
- 37:34Speaker 8: good guy. I liked him I ran into cape Cod
- 37:36Speaker 8: before the season said I always thought always was kind
- 37:39Speaker 8: of rooting for him, but no good depth signing for them. Uh,
- 37:42Speaker 8: I just I gotta, I gotta piggyback though on Alis
- 37:44Speaker 8: as I did. Those guys are so interesting to me
- 37:46Speaker 8: because they came in to the Patriots dynasty.
- 37:49Speaker 9: They were part of success.
- 37:50Speaker 8: They had success, but then they were kind of the
- 37:52Speaker 8: guys that had to stand up and talk through all
- 37:54Speaker 8: the losing and the downward trends. And you know, Dietrich
- 37:58Speaker 8: Wise just you know, always a calm presence. I always
- 38:00Speaker 8: just love teacher Wise because his old you know, he
- 38:03Speaker 8: tap you on the shoulder and.
- 38:04Speaker 5: Walk by it.
- 38:04Speaker 8: Yeah, just always fun, always willing to have a smile
- 38:07Speaker 8: with us. You know, got to know all of us
- 38:09Speaker 8: a little bit.
- 38:10Speaker 4: Still in Arkansas quarters it's a three quartership or a
- 38:13Speaker 4: quarter zip.
- 38:15Speaker 8: But I just echoing out said great guys, and they'll
- 38:18Speaker 8: be missed, no question. But I still fall with Evan.
- 38:20Speaker 8: I think it's time, you know, those guys saying what
- 38:23Speaker 8: do we have to do to be a championship team.
- 38:25Speaker 9: I don't think this new team.
- 38:26Speaker 8: Needs to hear about what we used to do when
- 38:27Speaker 8: we were the dynasty. Patriots, you know seven years ago.
- 38:30Speaker 8: It needs to be a new team that figures it
- 38:33Speaker 8: out on their own and isn't trying to live up
- 38:34Speaker 8: to a stand.
- 38:35Speaker 9: They're going to establish their own.
- 38:36Speaker 10: Self and I couldn't be happy, happier for them to
- 38:38Speaker 10: go to a really exciting team like the Commanders, and
- 38:41Speaker 10: I think they have a lot of value to add
- 38:43Speaker 10: to that locker room. And it's cool to see what
- 38:45Speaker 10: the Commanders have done this offseason.
- 38:46Speaker 6: Dano in Chicago. Grew up in Eastern mass but now
- 38:49Speaker 6: live in Chicago for several years, so I can speak
- 38:51Speaker 6: to both. I've visited both mass and Michigan in the
- 38:54Speaker 6: summer many times, but mass is far superior. Michigan is
- 38:58Speaker 6: probably the best summer spot in the Midway, but it
- 39:00Speaker 6: simply can't compete with Massachusetts, and Lake Michigan cannot compete
- 39:05Speaker 6: with the ocean.
- 39:06Speaker 10: When presidents and billionaires are vacationing in uh, Michigan, let
- 39:10Speaker 10: me know they don't have Nantucket or the Vineyard.
- 39:16Speaker 3: I mean, I've I've tried to go to the Obama
- 39:18Speaker 3: State Martha's Vineyard and just like see if they'll let.
- 39:21Speaker 4: I would even say New England in general, the Bushes
- 39:24Speaker 4: in canabung Port.
- 39:25Speaker 10: Yeah, you know this Taylor Swift and Rhode Island.
- 39:28Speaker 6: Plus where the Cradle of that's where Michigan has his feet.
- 39:31Speaker 6: They got him and.
- 39:32Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where he lives. That's where he's from from there.
- 39:38Speaker 5: He still live there.
- 39:40Speaker 4: But people I saw the movie, you know, they're not
- 39:43Speaker 4: even from Denim. They're even from here. Guy, they come
- 39:46Speaker 4: here vacation. That's a good flex right there. Obama grew
- 39:53Speaker 4: up in right.
- 39:56Speaker 10: I will adopt that point forever.
- 39:58Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 39:58Speaker 3: Yeah, he goes to one of the restaurants on the
- 40:00Speaker 3: vineyard lookout tavern that that we go to a lot.
- 40:03Speaker 3: And one of these times I'm just like, can you
- 40:05Speaker 3: just like it would be hilarious if it's just like
- 40:08Speaker 3: Obama at the bar? You know it's Obama. Yeah, just
- 40:11Speaker 3: look at like the.
- 40:13Speaker 4: Rush right.
- 40:17Speaker 10: Course, which one skanky had it? Bill's a member there.
- 40:21Speaker 3: I'm not a Nantucket guy.
- 40:23Speaker 4: Okay, I've been on Nantucket. I've been at the Vineyard
- 40:26Speaker 4: nine thousand times.
- 40:27Speaker 10: You live show Live from Nantuck.
- 40:30Speaker 6: It's really cool.
- 40:31Speaker 4: I've been in it.
- 40:33Speaker 10: Type there, live show, Cisco, Live show, Cisco.
- 40:36Speaker 4: Let's do it.
- 40:37Speaker 3: There's more to do in Martha's Vineyard Yeah, it's like
- 40:40Speaker 3: one town center basically.
- 40:42Speaker 10: Well, if you're rich enough, there's a lot to do
- 40:44Speaker 10: on party comes to your house.
- 40:46Speaker 4: Although Wings was based in Nantucket. That's a great That
- 40:49Speaker 4: was a great sitcom. You like that, Scott the Scotts
- 40:52Speaker 4: at High It was.
- 40:54Speaker 9: On all the time.
- 40:54Speaker 6: It was a great Joel and san Antonio as always,
- 40:57Speaker 6: thanks for the hard work keeping us entertained. Just want
- 41:00Speaker 6: to congratulate David Andrews on a stellar career. He's the
- 41:03Speaker 6: definition of a do your job type mentality. I really
- 41:06Speaker 6: wish him the best and I hope he gets a
- 41:07Speaker 6: red jacket someday. Hall of Famer Patriots Hall.
- 41:10Speaker 4: Of Fame's Patriot.
- 41:14Speaker 3: Is made for right. Yeah, guys like that.
- 41:16Speaker 5: I want that.
- 41:17Speaker 4: It'll push the other guys that belong in there.
- 41:19Speaker 6: Regarding the emailer about Michigan being better than mass during
- 41:22Speaker 6: the summer.
- 41:23Speaker 10: Well, Michigan's a great place. I don't want it to
- 41:25Speaker 10: be like.
- 41:26Speaker 6: I'm not from Massachusetts. I'm born and raised in Puerto Rican,
- 41:29Speaker 6: living in Texas for the past twenty years. I'll say this,
- 41:32Speaker 6: it doesn't matter how great the Great Lakes are. In
- 41:35Speaker 6: my book, the ocean will always be better. Yeah, we
- 41:38Speaker 6: have good rivers here that people go tubing in. We
- 41:40Speaker 6: have lakes to go swim and those are great. But
- 41:43Speaker 6: the ocean calls me every single time. That ocean, water,
- 41:46Speaker 6: the sand, the waves, it's just paradise. I agree, absolutely wholeheart.
- 41:51Speaker 3: Yeah, we have some of the top beaches in the
- 41:54Speaker 3: entire country. Yes, on the islands and stuff.
- 41:58Speaker 10: And Rhode Island too.
- 42:00Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 42:00Speaker 10: Second beach in Newport, underrated park park. My about there
- 42:04Speaker 10: all day forever.
- 42:06Speaker 6: Craig wants to know if I'm shrinking.
- 42:08Speaker 10: I love New England. I love New England as much
- 42:12Speaker 10: as I talked about the Massachusetts I actually I meant
- 42:18Speaker 10: the other day talking about this and hopefully they see it.
- 42:22Speaker 9: Yeah, Copa, we got a video for you. Come on
- 42:25Speaker 9: you the Bosston guy.
- 42:28Speaker 6: Just want to remind everyone of what's going on here. Today.
- 42:31Speaker 6: At one o'clock there'll be a live press conference from
- 42:34Speaker 6: the GP Atrium. There'll be Robert Craft, Mike Rabel, Elliott
- 42:37Speaker 6: Wolf and whatever free agents are in town today. We'll
- 42:41Speaker 6: be going to the podium, then we'll go back to
- 42:44Speaker 6: this show. Is we'll cover that live here in the show,
- 42:46Speaker 6: and then we'll go back to us and we'll go
- 42:49Speaker 6: beyond two o'clock with reaction from that and and everything else.
- 42:52Speaker 4: So it seems like it's a big day today, like
- 42:54Speaker 4: for the big ones. According to people on Twitter, well,
- 43:00Speaker 4: Milton Williams, Carlton Davis, Morgan, Moses and Rob Bulaine. Robert Splain. Yeah,
- 43:07Speaker 4: those four, I I think or will be expected to appear.
- 43:11Speaker 4: Who was Mickey Spallain Mickey Splain.
- 43:14Speaker 3: Breaking on that people keep making that joke.
- 43:17Speaker 6: He was a detective? Right, No, he was a writer
- 43:20Speaker 6: who wrote about.
- 43:23Speaker 15: Or something.
- 43:23Speaker 4: I thought he was a character.
- 43:24Speaker 6: No, I think I think I thought Mickey Spallain was.
- 43:27Speaker 4: That's why I pointed to Fred. I didn't want to
- 43:28Speaker 4: say something I believe.
- 43:32Speaker 6: I believe he was the writer who wrote about Mike
- 43:35Speaker 6: Camra Marlowe, right, Philip.
- 43:37Speaker 3: Philip, he's a novelist, you are right?
- 43:39Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah?
- 43:40Speaker 6: And who did he write novels?
- 43:41Speaker 12: Yeah?
- 43:42Speaker 4: But Mike Camra detective?
- 43:47Speaker 14: What detective did he write? Mike Camera Mike ca Wow, good,
- 43:51Speaker 14: you're making a joke. The King of pulp fiction apparently.
- 43:55Speaker 14: I don't know if that's related to Mickey Splaine known
- 43:58Speaker 14: as the King of pulp fiction.
- 43:59Speaker 4: Makes me hang to the person that knows just enough
- 44:01Speaker 4: to get in trouble about everything, and then I checked
- 44:04Speaker 4: with als.
- 44:07Speaker 3: Comic books, ye novels or novellas.
- 44:11Speaker 4: Different novellas.
- 44:13Speaker 6: So now I'm going to be calling Bobby Spolaine Mickey
- 44:15Speaker 6: for the rest.
- 44:16Speaker 4: Of them, Robert, He's gonna be calling him Bob.
- 44:19Speaker 3: Why not Bobby Bobby Spolen I don't know if he
- 44:21Speaker 3: prefers Bobby.
- 44:22Speaker 4: Probably Rob.
- 44:24Speaker 9: We'll find out.
- 44:24Speaker 4: Like Ben Watson, I'll ask for you. He like to
- 44:27Speaker 4: be called Benjamin.
- 44:28Speaker 6: Bob Sanders from the Colts Robbers, right, but he but
- 44:34Speaker 6: that's what he went by, Bob, Like, no, do you
- 44:37Speaker 6: prefer to be called Frederick or fred I don't care.
- 44:40Speaker 6: I'm not one of those people that I prefer to
- 44:42Speaker 6: be Joshua specific. It's like, you know, like I don't care.
- 44:53Speaker 4: Wow, you know anger.
- 44:55Speaker 6: I don't like that. My mother cared, but I don't.
- 44:57Speaker 3: That's why they do it, because it's all about the
- 44:59Speaker 3: mamas Obama's care and they get mad. We're you're junior,
- 45:02Speaker 3: you know, don't.
- 45:04Speaker 6: Yeah, Sabrina in Austria rights in Hi, guys and Alex
- 45:12Speaker 6: is there a possibility where we double dip at left
- 45:15Speaker 6: tackle with maybe a fourth overall in our third round?
- 45:18Speaker 6: Choice draft Campbell, focus on wide receiver in the second round,
- 45:22Speaker 6: and then get another left tackle so we have insurance
- 45:24Speaker 6: if Campbell can't play offensive tackle in the NFL, to
- 45:27Speaker 6: move them to guard and still have another young body
- 45:30Speaker 6: at the position.
- 45:31Speaker 3: Sure.
- 45:32Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe I just thought you don't want to overkill it,
- 45:34Speaker 8: but you got to figure out the the problem. So
- 45:36Speaker 8: I think if you if you're not one hundred percent
- 45:38Speaker 8: sure and you have to back it up, I love
- 45:39Speaker 8: them to say we love this guy.
- 45:41Speaker 9: We believe in this guy.
- 45:42Speaker 8: We're taking this guy, and we don't need to have
- 45:44Speaker 8: a backup for him because we're confident.
- 45:45Speaker 4: But not a terrible thing to get it right though,
- 45:48Speaker 4: you know, strengthen numbers. Except for I just would caution, like,
- 45:51Speaker 4: if Will Campbell doesn't work, you don't have a fallback
- 45:54Speaker 4: on a third round pick. Yeah, you have another guy
- 45:57Speaker 4: who may or may not work. Probably there's a reason
- 45:59Speaker 4: why you getting him in the third round, and that's
- 46:01Speaker 4: because people aren't sold on him.
- 46:03Speaker 3: Yeah. If I had to do a mock draft today, though,
- 46:06Speaker 3: I probably have them double dipping at tackle.
- 46:08Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 46:08Speaker 4: I think the theory is saying, yeah.
- 46:10Speaker 3: I mean I would like that player to maybe be
- 46:11Speaker 3: a little bit flexible so that he could either be
- 46:14Speaker 3: a swing or he could be guard or tackle or
- 46:16Speaker 3: something like that. But you know the second pick, I mean,
- 46:19Speaker 3: you know whoever they pick in the middle rounds. But
- 46:21Speaker 3: I would say that that sound reasoning.
- 46:24Speaker 4: How about a double dip of you know, veteran of
- 46:28Speaker 4: your choice if it's Cam Robinson, whoever, and one of
- 46:32Speaker 4: your injured guys.
- 46:33Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we talked a little bit about on
- 46:35Speaker 3: Catch twenty two yesterday. Like if they signed Cam Robinson,
- 46:37Speaker 3: Let's say the market's not there for Cam Robinson that
- 46:40Speaker 3: he expected, so you give him a one year deal.
- 46:42Speaker 3: He's going to start this year for the Patriots. Let
- 46:44Speaker 3: him reset his value maybe a little bit in draft
- 46:47Speaker 3: Josh Simmons. You know, the Hio State tackle's coming off injury.
- 46:51Speaker 3: We don't really entertain Josh Simmons because it's not an
- 46:53Speaker 3: immediate answer, right, But if that's the way that you
- 46:56Speaker 3: can do it, then then it's something that's not like.
- 46:58Speaker 4: That's facilitating again, like this is two days to room.
- 47:03Speaker 4: I'm like, magic, well.
- 47:04Speaker 9: We can we can we head up to the thing.
- 47:07Speaker 4: I won't be able to facilitate anymore because Fred won't
- 47:09Speaker 4: take it.
- 47:10Speaker 6: You get up there. I know you need to.
- 47:13Speaker 3: Get a seat.
- 47:14Speaker 9: We gotta walk in front of everybody.
- 47:16Speaker 4: They got to sign their autographs, grapes for a little
- 47:18Speaker 4: sensory reporting.
- 47:19Speaker 9: Trying to try to have a good show without us.
- 47:21Speaker 6: Okay, so these guys are going up to be seen
- 47:23Speaker 6: at the press conference.
- 47:25Speaker 11: I got a view up there.
- 47:26Speaker 6: It's starting to fill up. It's starting to fill up. Okay,
- 47:29Speaker 6: So we'll go to that when it becomes live.
- 47:31Speaker 4: You don't need to be seen. You're gonna slum it
- 47:33Speaker 4: with us.
- 47:33Speaker 6: You'll go up eventually. You know, she can't, she can't resist.
- 47:37Speaker 10: Now I want to stay just in spite of it.
- 47:40Speaker 4: Now I'm going to just defend New England some more.
- 47:44Speaker 6: Stevie and Minnesota sad to see Andrews Jones and wise Go.
- 47:47Speaker 6: Speaking for personal experience, having lived in Minnesota, so you
- 47:51Speaker 6: opened up a big can of worms, I guess. So,
- 47:55Speaker 6: having lived in Minnesota and visited Massachusetts, Minnesota is the
- 47:59Speaker 6: better summer spot. The lakes are far superior to the ocean,
- 48:02Speaker 6: and the people are much friendlier. And although Michigan is nice,
- 48:05Speaker 6: Minnesota is the best Midwest state for all seasons. Also,
- 48:10Speaker 6: ersy from Minnesota would be a steal at thirty eight
- 48:14Speaker 6: if they're able to get him. Okay, I don't know where.
- 48:17Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a longer name than that. I believe you know,
- 48:22Speaker 4: Hunt stepped out at the worst time, because I'm sure
- 48:24Speaker 4: I Evan could give you twenty five minutes on you.
- 48:26Speaker 6: He said, Hunter Orcarter at four ersy at thirty eight
- 48:28Speaker 6: would be a successful first two rounds.
- 48:31Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I agree. Like if you could somehow get
- 48:34Speaker 4: Hunter Orcada at four, yeah, that would make a lot
- 48:38Speaker 4: of sense. Still, that's still very much in flux.
- 48:41Speaker 6: Though this has legs spiking. Fresno. A few years ago,
- 48:44Speaker 6: I'd returned to Martha's Vineyard, where our family had gone
- 48:48Speaker 6: every summer when as a kid, way back in my youth,
- 48:50Speaker 6: I finally recall the ferocity of the waves crashing at
- 48:53Speaker 6: South Beach, and those were still there, But sadly Gayhead
- 48:56Speaker 6: Beach no longer had all the starfish they used to
- 48:59Speaker 6: be everywhere, more locals doing rituals in the buff. Anyone
- 49:03Speaker 6: know what happened to the starfish?
- 49:05Speaker 4: How about my memme? Should you go there to catch
- 49:07Speaker 4: a little sunset action? That's clean, live and Alex, that's
- 49:11Speaker 4: what where? Could you uh just park your butt? For
- 49:14Speaker 4: the day is uh Newport Newport. Yeah, I have spent
- 49:18Speaker 4: a lot of time in Newport All. I did pick
- 49:19Speaker 4: up my first career collegiate victory in Newport. There you
- 49:22Speaker 4: go at Salve Regina. A little fun fun fact for you.
- 49:27Speaker 6: Jeffrey Canada wants to know are we done? If we're
- 49:31Speaker 6: doing a press conference to introduce our acquisitions, does the signal?
- 49:35Speaker 6: Does that signal the end of major acquisitions this offseason?
- 49:38Speaker 15: No?
- 49:39Speaker 6: I mean, if there's other people available.
- 49:42Speaker 4: It's not like that, I would say it. I would say,
- 49:45Speaker 4: and this is not because of the press conference today,
- 49:47Speaker 4: but I would say in terms of like major stuff,
- 49:50Speaker 4: you're probably done because I don't think there's a lot
- 49:52Speaker 4: of major available unless Fred's theory comes to pass, Like
- 49:56Speaker 4: you are able to make a trade for a J Brown,
- 49:59Speaker 4: that's me. But what's available right now on the free
- 50:04Speaker 4: agent market, I don't think we'll qualify as anything made
- 50:08Speaker 4: that's not major. But I know there's a reason why
- 50:11Speaker 4: he was made available for two weeks to the entire league.
- 50:14Speaker 4: No one took him, and now he's been released for
- 50:16Speaker 4: a day and still the teams that have been tied
- 50:19Speaker 4: to him are like Seattle, the Patriots and the Broncos, like,
- 50:24Speaker 4: there's not a lot of interest there. That's not a
- 50:27Speaker 4: major sign.
- 50:27Speaker 6: I think he's weighing his options.
- 50:29Speaker 4: No, I know, but teams aren't the teams that are
- 50:32Speaker 4: showing interest. Are those teams not listen? Buffalo Green Bay,
- 50:40Speaker 4: Like the teams that you know that are really good
- 50:43Speaker 4: that need receivers haven't been linked to him yet.
- 50:47Speaker 6: If the Patriots had a flair for the dramatic, they
- 50:50Speaker 6: bring up, you know, the free agents at the podium
- 50:52Speaker 6: and go, oh, we have one more, and then they
- 50:54Speaker 6: bring out Cooper Cup and all the ball knowers will.
- 50:57Speaker 4: Be like, I'm not sure you get the react that
- 51:00Speaker 4: you think you would get. I want them to sign
- 51:04Speaker 4: Cooper Cup because I think they need a professional that
- 51:07Speaker 4: happens profession it.
- 51:10Speaker 10: And he just popped up like that has never happened, right, Like.
- 51:16Speaker 4: In terms of adding to the depth chart, he's just
- 51:18Speaker 4: adding another complimentary receiver to the depth chart off the
- 51:22Speaker 4: field in that room, I think would add a ton
- 51:25Speaker 4: of professionalism to a specific position group that really needs it.
- 51:30Speaker 4: So I am one thousand on signing Cooper Cup. But
- 51:35Speaker 4: I am in no way am I like deluding myself
- 51:39Speaker 4: into thinking that's changing the course of my offense because
- 51:43Speaker 4: I have Cooper Cup.
- 51:44Speaker 6: But it helps.
- 51:46Speaker 4: I think it helps off the field. I don't know
- 51:48Speaker 4: how much it helps on it helps.
- 51:50Speaker 6: He's you know, fifty five catches.
- 51:53Speaker 4: He's okay, Yeah, that helps.
- 51:55Speaker 6: Why because they don't have a guy that can do that?
- 51:58Speaker 4: You have, Yes, you do. Kendrick Bourne can catch fifty
- 52:02Speaker 4: five balls. He has. I'd rather in fact, he's already
- 52:06Speaker 4: done it. I'd rather have Cup, Tomorrio Douglas can catch
- 52:09Speaker 4: fifty five balls. He's already done it. He's still here.
- 52:12Speaker 4: So I don't necessarily think that's going to greatly impact
- 52:17Speaker 4: your course.
- 52:18Speaker 10: But if he lifts up everyone with him.
- 52:20Speaker 4: No, he's just going to be another guy will impact
- 52:24Speaker 4: off the field. Yes, on the field, you know.
- 52:26Speaker 10: He'll triggle to the field, like Kendrick has credited Cooper
- 52:30Speaker 10: Cup with like changing the diet, like the trajectory of
- 52:33Speaker 10: his career.
- 52:33Speaker 4: Right, how do you think of that career there? It's
- 52:37Speaker 4: like that's what I'm saying.
- 52:38Speaker 10: Probably a lot better than it would have been with
- 52:39Speaker 10: whatever Shenanigan's he was getting into in college, you know,
- 52:43Speaker 10: like not.
- 52:43Speaker 4: Knowing the plays and way to line up and whatnot.
- 52:47Speaker 4: I could bring Mike back. I could go to the
- 52:48Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne free amble. I really like Cooper Cup. I
- 52:55Speaker 4: think he was a terrific player in his prime, which
- 52:58Speaker 4: was now four years ago when he won a triple crown.
- 53:00Speaker 4: He has not come anywhere near that since. And I
- 53:04Speaker 4: don't think that you just have three mediocre years and
- 53:08Speaker 4: then all of a sudden I have one more like
- 53:10Speaker 4: Lazarus season. I don't think that that's likely, but I
- 53:14Speaker 4: would be one hundred percent yes and signing.
- 53:17Speaker 6: I think he would be a positive impact to the offense.
- 53:20Speaker 4: I agree, not for the same reason that you do, Okay,
- 53:23Speaker 4: but I agree.
- 53:24Speaker 6: Alex and Raleigh, North Carolina. I love living in Massachusetts
- 53:29Speaker 6: for my twenty five years before I got married, moved
- 53:31Speaker 6: to Jersey, and now living in North Carolina. I admit
- 53:34Speaker 6: I love growing up by the ocean in mass But
- 53:37Speaker 6: North Carolina beaches, oh, do give the Massachusetts beach for
- 53:41Speaker 6: their money.
- 53:42Speaker 10: North Carolina's great.
- 53:43Speaker 6: Summary in North Carolina is a wonderful time and it's
- 53:45Speaker 6: very hard to beat the summer here. Everyone loves coming
- 53:48Speaker 6: down to the outer banks, down to Wilmington, North Carolina
- 53:51Speaker 6: and everything in between.
- 53:53Speaker 10: No notes, I'm in I love North Carolina.
- 53:55Speaker 6: No notes, what does that mean, young girl?
- 53:59Speaker 10: No notes like that take? I have no critique of it, Okay,
- 54:03Speaker 10: without comment. I think North Carolina is a beautiful state.
- 54:09Speaker 10: There's a reason why why is the cost of living
- 54:12Speaker 10: so expensive in the Northeast Because everyone wants to live here,
- 54:15Speaker 10: you know. Like to the Minnesota comment, to the Michigan.
- 54:18Speaker 4: Comment, let's argue with that. Jeremiah, watch Outer Banks.
- 54:24Speaker 10: It was fine.
- 54:25Speaker 6: What do you think it was a good show?
- 54:27Speaker 10: It was fine.
- 54:28Speaker 6: Oh that was a show.
- 54:30Speaker 4: Tremendously stupid. Love it unbelievable. It was entertainment, entertaining, mindless
- 54:37Speaker 4: television actually cast almost guys every episode.
- 54:41Speaker 10: I watched The Outer Banks with my siblings in the
- 54:43Speaker 10: Outer Banks on vacation with my family.
- 54:44Speaker 6: Cool, cool story, Jeremiah says. Recently, Rapaport reported that cup
- 54:50Speaker 6: has a strong market, and from the sound of what
- 54:52Speaker 6: a bunch of insiders have been saying, it sounds more
- 54:55Speaker 6: like no one wanted to trade for his contract and
- 54:57Speaker 6: instead wanted to uh read a go. When he hit
- 55:00Speaker 6: free agency.
- 55:01Speaker 4: Then he didn't have a strong market.
- 55:05Speaker 6: I think you're quibbling.
- 55:06Speaker 4: No, I'm not quibbling.
- 55:07Speaker 6: You're quibbling.
- 55:08Speaker 4: He was very affordable. So if no one wanted the contract,
- 55:11Speaker 4: there's not a lot of interest.
- 55:13Speaker 6: I don't know what. I'm just saying, what rapaport.
- 55:15Speaker 4: He was going to make twenty million dollars maximum.
- 55:17Speaker 6: That's a lot. No, it's not for someone in his
- 55:20Speaker 6: stage of his career. I think it is.
- 55:22Speaker 4: It's not a lot for a guy who's going to
- 55:24Speaker 4: impact someone's offense, as you say.
- 55:26Speaker 16: He will.
- 55:26Speaker 6: Now see now you're you're you know you're not being fair.
- 55:30Speaker 4: Listen, you're not being fair.
- 55:31Speaker 6: I know what you're doing, Fred, I know what you're doing.
- 55:33Speaker 4: He's been available for three weeks now, right, and he's
- 55:37Speaker 4: still available. Someone's going to sign him for a very
- 55:42Speaker 4: modest I think.
- 55:42Speaker 6: If we were the only team interested, he'd already be
- 55:44Speaker 6: saying it's.
- 55:45Speaker 4: Not the only team. We're not the only team. I
- 55:47Speaker 4: just told you there was a tweet Seattle, Denver.
- 55:50Speaker 6: I think the Patriots.
- 55:50Speaker 4: Those are the three teams that have expressed interest.
- 55:52Speaker 6: More. I think there's more.
- 55:54Speaker 4: And I'm just telling you if one of those more
- 55:56Speaker 4: is someone like Buffalo, Kansas City, the Chargers, Green Bay,
- 56:01Speaker 4: he's gonna go to one of those cases.
- 56:02Speaker 6: I'm just saying, he's got a strong market. I agree
- 56:04Speaker 6: with Rappaport. I agree with the I.
- 56:07Speaker 4: Will tell you what the market was when I see
- 56:09Speaker 4: the contract. If he signs for twenty million, then you're right.
- 56:12Speaker 4: I don't think you will. What if he signs for ten,
- 56:15Speaker 4: then he didn't have a strong market. That's peanuts.
- 56:19Speaker 6: Well I think you can.
- 56:20Speaker 4: You think less than Nelson Aguilore signed in twenty one.
- 56:22Speaker 6: You can sign for less than what your current contract
- 56:25Speaker 6: and still have a strong market. A lot of people
- 56:28Speaker 6: were interested at the right price.
- 56:31Speaker 4: Then that's my point. Then you're not really interested. If
- 56:34Speaker 4: it has to be at a price, well you if
- 56:36Speaker 4: you're inches it like Milton Williams, no one cared about
- 56:38Speaker 4: the price.
- 56:39Speaker 6: I think you equivalent.
- 56:40Speaker 4: That's that's a strong market.
- 56:42Speaker 6: Milton Williams is twenty five right, Okay. It's different, Paul,
- 56:46Speaker 6: and you know it. This guy's at the end of
- 56:48Speaker 6: his career.
- 56:48Speaker 4: It's different in that he's not gonna get the bad
- 56:50Speaker 4: amount of money. He's not gonna get twenty five million
- 56:53Speaker 4: a year.
- 56:53Speaker 6: He's not gonna get what his current contract was paying him.
- 56:58Speaker 6: And that's the problem.
- 57:00Speaker 4: And I would argue that that means that there's not
- 57:02Speaker 4: a huge market form because that's not a very big contract. Well,
- 57:06Speaker 4: so if he doesn't get it, then people say, yeah,
- 57:08Speaker 4: I'll take them at my price. Okay, that's not the
- 57:11Speaker 4: same as having a strong market.
- 57:13Speaker 6: But I'm saying a lot of people are saying I'll
- 57:15Speaker 6: take them at the right price.
- 57:17Speaker 4: Okay, I just disagree that that means he has a
- 57:20Speaker 4: strong mark. Okay, all right, and they're at twelve fifty seven.
- 57:23Speaker 4: Is the Fred and Paul Samantic argument.
- 57:25Speaker 6: I'm only go up. I know you want to go.
- 57:28Speaker 10: It's going to be playing, but just go.
- 57:29Speaker 6: Don't you want to see your people more for my people.
- 57:33Speaker 6: I don't want to hold you back.
- 57:35Speaker 4: He just told you to just go. The last person
- 57:37Speaker 4: on this show he did that to was Andy Hart
- 57:39Speaker 4: in two thousand and four.
- 57:40Speaker 6: That's because what did he do bad name on the show?
- 57:47Speaker 17: Really?
- 57:47Speaker 4: Nothing, nothing like that fa like not like like you
- 57:51Speaker 4: have this look on your face like it was a scandal. No, no, no,
- 57:53Speaker 4: he just he said something that he shouldn't have said.
- 57:56Speaker 2: Me.
- 57:57Speaker 4: Yeah, that was but not like.
- 58:00Speaker 6: Andy was in a bad mood that day because one
- 58:02Speaker 6: of his buddies plagiarized in the media.
- 58:05Speaker 4: Remember I wasn't there.
- 58:07Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there was a media member who was being accused.
- 58:10Speaker 4: Of, Oh, the Western writer. I think I'm not going
- 58:15Speaker 4: to say the name because I don't want to think.
- 58:16Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he was out that way, big guy. Yeah, okay,
- 58:19Speaker 6: And and he was defending him. I'm like, there's no
- 58:22Speaker 6: defense for that in our industry. That's like the mortal sin.
- 58:25Speaker 6: Plagiarism is like killing somebody in the in journalism, you
- 58:29Speaker 6: can't do that. So we were going back and forth
- 58:31Speaker 6: in that, and then he was all razzled and we
- 58:34Speaker 6: got on the subject of a player and he used
- 58:37Speaker 6: a bad word.
- 58:39Speaker 4: And not like I just I just want to say,
- 58:42Speaker 4: it wasn't like a racial It wasn't like a racial
- 58:45Speaker 4: thing or anything like that. It wasn't like a taboo bad. Yeah,
- 58:48Speaker 4: it was unnecessary just.
- 58:51Speaker 6: Go future like.
- 58:56Speaker 4: And I was home because that was like when we
- 58:58Speaker 4: was born. So I wasn't at.
- 58:59Speaker 6: That money that you brought that up. Because Warren Ladd,
- 59:03Speaker 6: one of our UK fans, unearthed that clip and he
- 59:08Speaker 6: said he was going to post it on YouTube and
- 59:10Speaker 6: he what the he WhatsApp me. You know what WhatsApp is,
- 59:15Speaker 6: young person.
- 59:18Speaker 4: Before you derogatorily called her young girl.
- 59:21Speaker 6: Funny, he whatsapped me and asked me, would that be
- 59:24Speaker 6: okay with me if he did that? I said, you know,
- 59:26Speaker 6: I don't care.
- 59:27Speaker 4: Just make sure it's not like you should probably hear
- 59:29Speaker 4: it first. There's some things that we've said in the
- 59:31Speaker 4: past that I wouldn't feel comfortable with.
- 59:33Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 59:33Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't age well. Good, good way to.
- 59:36Speaker 6: Putting that's true. It's like some of those old Seinfeld
- 59:39Speaker 6: episodes that they couldn't get away with these days.
- 59:41Speaker 4: Yeah, which they should be able to, but you can't.
- 59:43Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 59:44Speaker 4: So there's no sense of arguing whether or not you
- 59:45Speaker 4: should be able to get away with it.
- 59:47Speaker 6: You can't. Let's see Claire. Hello everyone, Hello marine he quick.
- 59:53Speaker 6: Thanks to Evan for bringing his beautiful mind on a
- 59:56Speaker 6: clear perspective today to do Creagent frenzy. Uh, tugs to Alex.
- 1:00:01Speaker 6: I'm sad over Jones and wise leaving, but the David
- 1:00:04Speaker 6: Andrews release has gutted me.
- 1:00:06Speaker 10: I get it.
- 1:00:06Speaker 12: Yep.
- 1:00:07Speaker 6: Finally, how does a girl go about obtaining one of
- 1:00:10Speaker 6: those surplus small sized PU shirts?
- 1:00:12Speaker 15: Please?
- 1:00:13Speaker 6: Oh well perhaps the Yeah, absolutely, send Claire to Smalls.
- 1:00:21Speaker 6: I don't think many of our fans are small.
- 1:00:22Speaker 15: So what.
- 1:00:25Speaker 5: Let's go.
- 1:00:26Speaker 6: Let's go.
- 1:00:27Speaker 5: Oh, welcome everyone.
- 1:00:29Speaker 16: Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today. We're
- 1:00:35Speaker 16: here to discuss the free agent acquisitions we've made and
- 1:00:40Speaker 16: to introduce you to these players who have signed their
- 1:00:45Speaker 16: contract today. And I just personally, I'm very excited about
- 1:00:53Speaker 16: what's coming. And I'm I've been told I should calm down,
- 1:00:57Speaker 16: but I'd be remiss if I didn't first acknowledge a departure.
- 1:01:05Speaker 16: Today we released our two time Super Bowl champion and
- 1:01:11Speaker 16: one of my favorite players ever to come through our
- 1:01:15Speaker 16: locker room.
- 1:01:15Speaker 5: David Andrews.
- 1:01:17Speaker 16: David's been an integral part of the Patriots for the
- 1:01:21Speaker 16: past decade, including the past eight years. He was a
- 1:01:27Speaker 16: captain of the team, and he was just not a
- 1:01:32Speaker 16: leader in the locker room, but he was an outstanding
- 1:01:35Speaker 16: individual in the community and very special on a personal level.
- 1:01:44Speaker 16: I was able to spend time with him with David
- 1:01:48Speaker 16: and his incredible wife McKenzie on a trip to the
- 1:01:53Speaker 16: Holy Land and really got to know them very well
- 1:01:59Speaker 16: five or six years ago, and just a very special guy.
- 1:02:04Speaker 16: And it's the hot part of this business when.
- 1:02:10Speaker 5: You have to release people in But as we.
- 1:02:16Speaker 16: Look ahead and continue to build for the future, we've
- 1:02:21Speaker 16: made some wonderful key additions to this team, and I'm
- 1:02:25Speaker 16: happy to welcome them to the Patriot family and actually
- 1:02:32Speaker 16: looking forward to see the impact they're going to have,
- 1:02:35Speaker 16: hopefully on game day. We are committed. We are really
- 1:02:41Speaker 16: committed to build a team which all of our fans
- 1:02:45Speaker 16: can be proud of. I was saying to one of
- 1:02:48Speaker 16: the players, you know, I sat for the thirty odd
- 1:02:53Speaker 16: years and went to the four stadiums and came here
- 1:02:57Speaker 16: in seventy one. That was the first time about season
- 1:03:02Speaker 16: tickets and really appreciate how special this team is. And
- 1:03:09Speaker 16: I've been so honored to be able to buy an
- 1:03:14Speaker 16: NFL team in my hometown. And so I understand what
- 1:03:19Speaker 16: the fans want. And I'll just tell you I'm very
- 1:03:24Speaker 16: excited about the people we've brought in here, and I
- 1:03:30Speaker 16: just hope we really perform come when the season starts.
- 1:03:35Speaker 16: So I'm gonna ask Elliott to come and discuss the
- 1:03:42Speaker 16: players who have signed, and then Mike Rabel and the
- 1:03:47Speaker 16: players will be available as well for any questions afterwards.
- 1:03:52Speaker 16: So Elliott, do you want.
- 1:03:53Speaker 18: To well, just to echo Robert, this is an exciting time,
- 1:04:06Speaker 18: you know, for exciting players that we've signed are here.
- 1:04:10Speaker 18: Harold l anderw was here yesterday. We've got some guys
- 1:04:12Speaker 18: coming in tomorrow. Josh Dobbs is coming in mac Hollins,
- 1:04:16Speaker 18: Jalen Hawkins, Austin Hooper and Kyrie's Tonga. And there's still
- 1:04:20Speaker 18: more work to be done. Obviously we're not finished. We
- 1:04:22Speaker 18: still have some more needs to fill. Just wanted to
- 1:04:26Speaker 18: echo Robert again and say thank you to David Andrews
- 1:04:29Speaker 18: for everything, as well as Dietrich Wise, Jonathan Jones, Jacobe
- 1:04:34Speaker 18: Brissette who have moved on and for all their contributions
- 1:04:37Speaker 18: last year and over the years. Wanted to thank Ownership
- 1:04:42Speaker 18: for all their unwavering support you know, anything we needed
- 1:04:46Speaker 18: the whole time. They've been nothing but supportive to us.
- 1:04:50Speaker 18: Working with the coaching staff. You know, it's difficult for
- 1:04:53Speaker 18: a coaching staff.
- 1:04:54Speaker 5: To come in.
- 1:04:55Speaker 9: They're putting in new schemes.
- 1:04:57Speaker 18: Getting to know each other, work together, and you know
- 1:05:00Speaker 18: they've all all the free agents. I mean they've been
- 1:05:04Speaker 18: over backwards for the personnel department to identify the free
- 1:05:08Speaker 18: agents and other guys on teams that have been able
- 1:05:10Speaker 18: to help us.
- 1:05:13Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 1:05:13Speaker 18: Thank you to the pro scouting staff, Richard Miller, Nancy Meyer,
- 1:05:17Speaker 18: Matt grow has taken a bigger role in the contract
- 1:05:20Speaker 18: negotiation world and he really excelled this year so far
- 1:05:24Speaker 18: on that and we expect that to continue. And with
- 1:05:28Speaker 18: that being said, just want to discuss the four guys
- 1:05:30Speaker 18: that are here, Milton Williams, Morgan Moses, Robert Spallanz, CD,
- 1:05:34Speaker 18: Carlton Davis, you know, just guys that we've targeted over
- 1:05:40Speaker 18: the years, veterans, professionals. There was definitely an emphasis on
- 1:05:46Speaker 18: good people, good players, culture changers, difference makers, and I
- 1:05:51Speaker 18: think these four guys really exemplify that, as well as
- 1:05:54Speaker 18: Harold Landry, who was here yesterday and he had to
- 1:05:57Speaker 18: return to his family vacation.
- 1:06:00Speaker 5: So, you know, starting over here CD. I was in
- 1:06:05Speaker 5: Cleveland when CD came out.
- 1:06:06Speaker 12: In the draft.
- 1:06:07Speaker 3: I tried really really hard to.
- 1:06:08Speaker 18: Get us to pick him and you know, got vetoed
- 1:06:11Speaker 18: on that one. But ever since then have followed his career,
- 1:06:16Speaker 18: you know, when he's been available, every time we've tried
- 1:06:18Speaker 18: to get him, and now we finally were able to
- 1:06:20Speaker 18: make that happen. So I'm excited about that. Robert just
- 1:06:24Speaker 18: a tremendous story. Mini camp try out in with the
- 1:06:27Speaker 18: Tennessee Titans. Didn't have a free agent contract after the draft,
- 1:06:31Speaker 18: made the team practice squad starter, and then you know,
- 1:06:36Speaker 18: had over one hundred and forty tackles each of the
- 1:06:38Speaker 18: last two seasons. Morgan Moses has been a right tackle
- 1:06:44Speaker 18: since the moment he was drafted, has played you know,
- 1:06:49Speaker 18: a ton of starts, physical, tough, just a professional, very
- 1:06:54Speaker 18: consistent run game, pass game, all that. And then Milton Williams,
- 1:06:59Speaker 18: you know, really has come on in the last couple
- 1:07:00Speaker 18: of years here excited about what he can do for
- 1:07:03Speaker 18: us on the interior of the defensive line, you know,
- 1:07:05Speaker 18: pass rush, run defense, and all these guys again are
- 1:07:10Speaker 18: just tremendous workers, and we couldn't be more excited that
- 1:07:13Speaker 18: they're joining our team and what's moving forward here.
- 1:07:17Speaker 5: So with that being.
- 1:07:17Speaker 18: Said, he would like to introduce coach Rabel and he's
- 1:07:22Speaker 18: got some remarks as well, So I appreciate.
- 1:07:24Speaker 12: That, appreciate that, Elliott.
- 1:07:33Speaker 19: I want to thank Robert and Jonathan's not able to
- 1:07:37Speaker 19: be here today, but I want to thank them on
- 1:07:40Speaker 19: behalf of just the coaching staff. I think the personnel
- 1:07:43Speaker 19: an echo Elliott's comments just about the support and the
- 1:07:46Speaker 19: commitment that they've made just in getting this process and
- 1:07:51Speaker 19: this just being able to build a program every single
- 1:07:55Speaker 19: day and allow us to have the resources that we've
- 1:07:59Speaker 19: needed to do that to provide our players with everything
- 1:08:02Speaker 19: that they need to be successful on and off the field.
- 1:08:04Speaker 19: So thank you, you know, thank you Robert. I want
- 1:08:09Speaker 19: to thank Elliott. I want to thank his personnel department,
- 1:08:12Speaker 19: specifically to pro Scouts and that staff that that really
- 1:08:16Speaker 19: teed it up for me and the coaches to come
- 1:08:19Speaker 19: in and evaluate as we work through the personnel you
- 1:08:24Speaker 19: know stage and in the preliminary stages of that. So
- 1:08:27Speaker 19: you know, I thought they did a great job. I
- 1:08:29Speaker 19: want to thank them. Would love to thank Nancy Meyer
- 1:08:33Speaker 19: and Stretch for for kind of coordinating everything. Everything moves
- 1:08:37Speaker 19: pretty quick, and they kept us in line and they
- 1:08:40Speaker 19: kept us and they handled travel and just the communication
- 1:08:44Speaker 19: and getting everybody here, So I want to thank them.
- 1:08:46Speaker 19: I would love to thank Richie and Mitch and and
- 1:08:49Speaker 19: Halle who are going to form our player Engagement on
- 1:08:52Speaker 19: department and then being able to just meet with these
- 1:08:55Speaker 19: families and visit and help this transition that you know,
- 1:08:58Speaker 19: there's going to be some new players here, many new
- 1:09:00Speaker 19: faces here, and that that department is critical and you know,
- 1:09:03Speaker 19: we want to support them. The I want to thank
- 1:09:07Speaker 19: specifically our little free agent group which was Me, Elliott,
- 1:09:11Speaker 19: Ryan Cowden, Matt grow Richard Miller.
- 1:09:14Speaker 12: Uh that we were firing them off left.
- 1:09:16Speaker 19: And right, just trying to get back touched, go pivot
- 1:09:20Speaker 19: because everything happens pretty quick. And Uh, that was fun
- 1:09:24Speaker 19: just being able to everybody, you know, work at a different angle, Uh,
- 1:09:29Speaker 19: getting the contracts done, communicating on that, going to plan
- 1:09:32Speaker 19: B and and really it was fun. And and we're
- 1:09:35Speaker 19: excited about the players that we had. And you can
- 1:09:38Speaker 19: see that. You know, once you get to know these
- 1:09:41Speaker 19: these players and these men.
- 1:09:43Speaker 12: That that we we're going.
- 1:09:44Speaker 19: To be just as excited as them off the field
- 1:09:47Speaker 19: as we are on the field. But I want to
- 1:09:51Speaker 19: welcome you guys. I want to welcome you. Guys are
- 1:09:53Speaker 19: our Patriot family. And I think that we were all
- 1:09:56Speaker 19: excited about getting you as players, but then when we
- 1:10:01Speaker 19: met in the in the hallway and met your families,
- 1:10:03Speaker 19: we're even more excited to meet your support system and
- 1:10:07Speaker 19: understand why you guys.
- 1:10:08Speaker 12: Are the way you are.
- 1:10:09Speaker 5: And you know, we're.
- 1:10:11Speaker 19: Gonna we're gonna support the things and the people that
- 1:10:13Speaker 19: are important in your life.
- 1:10:15Speaker 12: That's what we believe in.
- 1:10:16Speaker 19: We believe in making connections and making sure that then
- 1:10:20Speaker 19: when they come to work here that we're doing everything
- 1:10:22Speaker 19: we can so that we can we can put the
- 1:10:24Speaker 19: product on the field that Robert talked about. That's a
- 1:10:27Speaker 19: that's a championship product, and that starts by investing in
- 1:10:30Speaker 19: people and and and I'm confident that we got the
- 1:10:33Speaker 19: right people and then now it's our job to put
- 1:10:36Speaker 19: them in the right places, uh as players to get
- 1:10:38Speaker 19: the best out of them. Until I'm excited to start
- 1:10:41Speaker 19: that process so that that, uh, I guess I'll take
- 1:10:47Speaker 19: a few questions as it relates to some of the players,
- 1:10:49Speaker 19: and then what we plan on doing going forward, Karen,
- 1:10:54Speaker 19: I'm on Karen.
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: In the prior meetings with us, you've talked about wanting
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: to support Drake Bay and protecting him with an improved
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: offensive line. With the news of the release of David
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: Andrews today, there now appear multiple holes to fill. Have
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: things not gone.
- 1:11:21Speaker 10: According to plan?
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: And are you now forced to draft for need in
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: that area?
- 1:11:28Speaker 12: No, I think that there's a lot there. Karen.
- 1:11:31Speaker 19: You mentioned David and want to thank him, you know,
- 1:11:33Speaker 19: having played at this organization, not quite as long as
- 1:11:37Speaker 19: he had, but but being here. I want to thank
- 1:11:39Speaker 19: him for that, for for being here and carrying on
- 1:11:42Speaker 19: a tradition that so many great players before him had.
- 1:11:46Speaker 19: We're going to continue to support as Elliott. Elliott mentioned
- 1:11:49Speaker 19: the needs that we feel like we're on the team,
- 1:11:52Speaker 19: and we'll target the offensive line. There's still quite a
- 1:11:55Speaker 19: bit of time before we get to the draft, but
- 1:11:59Speaker 19: but there's also you know, we we don't want to
- 1:12:02Speaker 19: just be careless, right we talked about there's a difference.
- 1:12:05Speaker 19: We want our players to play aggressive, we don't want
- 1:12:07Speaker 19: them to play reckless, and so we don't want.
- 1:12:09Speaker 12: To be reckless through this process.
- 1:12:11Speaker 19: We want to be very intentional with the with the
- 1:12:14Speaker 19: people that we bring on this football team, and we'll
- 1:12:17Speaker 19: we'll continue to target all those needs that we feel
- 1:12:20Speaker 19: like and the players that can help us.
- 1:12:22Speaker 20: Thank you, he might when with Milton Williams, there was
- 1:12:27Speaker 20: a report that he was close to signing to another team,
- 1:12:29Speaker 20: and I think like an hour or so later, you know,
- 1:12:31Speaker 20: you guys finalized to deal with him. Can you take
- 1:12:33Speaker 20: us through the emotions of sort of that swing and
- 1:12:35Speaker 20: what was it about Milton that made you guys feel
- 1:12:37Speaker 20: comfortable to give him the deal you did?
- 1:12:40Speaker 12: Well, I think it's always about the entire package.
- 1:12:43Speaker 19: When you look at compensation, right, it's the it's the
- 1:12:46Speaker 19: body of work, it's the.
- 1:12:47Speaker 12: What they're going to do for us.
- 1:12:49Speaker 19: And we always want to be able to, you know,
- 1:12:53Speaker 19: not rely on on past performances, but that was something
- 1:12:57Speaker 19: there's a there's a high ceiling and a great vision
- 1:13:00Speaker 19: about the person, the effort, the skill set, you know,
- 1:13:04Speaker 19: the speed in which he plays, there's a there's a power,
- 1:13:08Speaker 19: so certainly there's an aggressiveness and being able to to
- 1:13:11Speaker 19: add him to our defensive line is something that was
- 1:13:13Speaker 19: really exciting, you know. But you talk about the character
- 1:13:17Speaker 19: and hopefully we're going to be able to I hope
- 1:13:20Speaker 19: you want to play more than then they're played in
- 1:13:23Speaker 19: Philadelphia and I know that you guys are extremely successful,
- 1:13:26Speaker 19: but we want to play him a little bit more
- 1:13:27Speaker 19: than that, and hope we can do that.
- 1:13:31Speaker 12: You know, you just try to.
- 1:13:34Speaker 19: You do your best in a short amount of time
- 1:13:36Speaker 19: to make a connection with the player and kind of
- 1:13:41Speaker 19: what we are, right, we don't want to sell anything
- 1:13:43Speaker 19: like what we want to sell is just who we are.
- 1:13:45Speaker 19: It's not we want him to want to be here.
- 1:13:48Speaker 19: And then if they want to be here and we
- 1:13:50Speaker 19: want them, well we'll figure out a way to make
- 1:13:53Speaker 19: it work contractually, but they we want people and players
- 1:13:57Speaker 19: that want to be here, that want to be a
- 1:13:58Speaker 19: part of what we're doing. And that's what these guys
- 1:14:01Speaker 19: are and there'll be more that that come along after them.
- 1:14:08Speaker 21: Hey, Mike uh Tom, you mentioned you didn't want to
- 1:14:12Speaker 21: be selling people, but the reality of having had two
- 1:14:15Speaker 21: unsuccessful seasons and then ending up at the top of
- 1:14:18Speaker 21: the draft, you had to make some kind of a
- 1:14:20Speaker 21: pitch to convince guys. And we'll certainly ask them about
- 1:14:23Speaker 21: it too, But what was your main pitch to say, Hey,
- 1:14:26Speaker 21: I know it on paper has not been positive the last.
- 1:14:30Speaker 5: Two years, but this is what we're building.
- 1:14:32Speaker 21: What was what was the main thing you were articulating
- 1:14:34Speaker 21: to these guys and convincing them.
- 1:14:37Speaker 19: I mean, just just who we are as people that
- 1:14:39Speaker 19: we're gonna we're gonna care about them, We're gonna push
- 1:14:41Speaker 19: them about the team. Right, you have to target the
- 1:14:45Speaker 19: right player, you know, making sure that that our vision
- 1:14:48Speaker 19: and want them to help us build a program that
- 1:14:51Speaker 19: that when the players walk back in here on April seventh,
- 1:14:53Speaker 19: that they're proud of, that they want to protect that
- 1:14:56Speaker 19: they call their own.
- 1:14:59Speaker 12: You know, just what we've.
- 1:15:00Speaker 19: We've done and what we the relationships that we try
- 1:15:03Speaker 19: to make and and what we want to build uh,
- 1:15:06Speaker 19: the entire player around and then put them in good spots.
- 1:15:09Speaker 19: And I think we've been able to to put some players,
- 1:15:12Speaker 19: specifically Milton, put players like that in our history of
- 1:15:15Speaker 19: coaching and good spots to be productive and make players
- 1:15:18Speaker 19: that can help the team win.
- 1:15:22Speaker 22: Hike Hi, Sophie, I was just curious there were the
- 1:15:25Speaker 22: reports about you guys going after Chris god when obviously
- 1:15:28Speaker 22: he RESIGND with Tampa Bay. I'm curious what your thoughts are,
- 1:15:31Speaker 22: what your plan is at the wide receiver position, and
- 1:15:34Speaker 22: how you plan to address that, whether it's free agency
- 1:15:36Speaker 22: or the draft.
- 1:15:38Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm not gonna talk about any of the players.
- 1:15:41Speaker 19: Are the ones that are right here and the ones
- 1:15:42Speaker 19: that are gonna currently on our football team. We'll continue
- 1:15:46Speaker 19: to target. Matt Collins will be in here tomorrow. He's
- 1:15:48Speaker 19: a wide receiver, you know. But we'll continue to look
- 1:15:52Speaker 19: at the wide receiver position as it relates through free agency,
- 1:15:57Speaker 19: explore every option uh with other teams, and potentially, you know,
- 1:16:02Speaker 19: then we'll get to the point where we're where we're
- 1:16:04Speaker 19: looking in the draft, and there's just a lot of time,
- 1:16:06Speaker 19: and I know that everybody's like it's over at free agency.
- 1:16:09Speaker 19: It's it's never over. And and Zoe's you know, wherever
- 1:16:12Speaker 19: Alonso is. I don't know, but he keeps reminding me
- 1:16:15Speaker 19: and I think everybody else that because he's been around
- 1:16:17Speaker 19: a lot of times. He's like, there's players that are
- 1:16:19Speaker 19: going to come available, whether it be now, or whether
- 1:16:22Speaker 19: it be in May or after training camp. Like it's
- 1:16:25Speaker 19: just he's like, I've seen it enough to know that
- 1:16:28Speaker 19: there's going to be someone that's currently not on our
- 1:16:30Speaker 19: roster that's going to help us win a game this year.
- 1:16:33Speaker 12: We just he's not in Foxborougi.
- 1:16:38Speaker 23: Kill Andy, Mike, what do you remember about Robert Splane
- 1:16:42Speaker 23: when he first came to Tennessee as a trial player
- 1:16:46Speaker 23: and just what do you think about the career that
- 1:16:47Speaker 23: he's put together since then?
- 1:16:49Speaker 12: Well, I mean it was just you couldn't you know.
- 1:16:52Speaker 19: We went out to practice and he didn't make any
- 1:16:55Speaker 19: mental mayors. He was athletic, he was excellent in this
- 1:16:58Speaker 19: open field tackling drill. Did the same thing the next day,
- 1:17:01Speaker 19: did the same thing on Sunday. You know, it got
- 1:17:04Speaker 19: to be a joke where we would just keep throwing
- 1:17:06Speaker 19: them in and be like, hey, let's see if somebody
- 1:17:07Speaker 19: can make Splaine miss. And then you know, John Robinson
- 1:17:11Speaker 19: and I were just like, we have to have him
- 1:17:14Speaker 19: on the football team. And I think he's earned the
- 1:17:15Speaker 19: right to be here based on those three days. And
- 1:17:19Speaker 19: you know, Robert may Or may not share this story,
- 1:17:22Speaker 19: but he got We told him, and it was on
- 1:17:24Speaker 19: Mother's Day and he got to call his mom and it.
- 1:17:26Speaker 12: Was you know, it was pretty special, you know, especially.
- 1:17:29Speaker 19: For me being a young football coach or a young
- 1:17:31Speaker 19: head coach, to be able to see a player that
- 1:17:34Speaker 19: had earned the right like we didn't hand him anything
- 1:17:37Speaker 19: like that's what we want for every single player on
- 1:17:39Speaker 19: our team.
- 1:17:39Speaker 12: We want them to.
- 1:17:40Speaker 19: Earn everything that they get. And that was an example
- 1:17:44Speaker 19: of what he earned his opportunity.
- 1:17:46Speaker 12: In the National Football League.
- 1:17:47Speaker 19: So that's no surprise of the career that he's had
- 1:17:50Speaker 19: based on how it started.
- 1:17:54Speaker 24: Hey, Mike, going back to Karen's question regarding David and
- 1:17:57Speaker 24: the offensive line, is you look to build a winning
- 1:17:59Speaker 24: culture or for an a time captain who's been here,
- 1:18:02Speaker 24: what made releasing him in the best interest of the team.
- 1:18:07Speaker 19: Well, I think we talk about leadership, and Elliott mentioned
- 1:18:10Speaker 19: a few other players as it relates to Jonathan Jones
- 1:18:16Speaker 19: and Dietrich Wise and and you know, David happy for.
- 1:18:21Speaker 12: Those guys that you know are found other places.
- 1:18:25Speaker 19: And there would be no restriction on leadership as far
- 1:18:28Speaker 19: as age or experience, Like every one of our players
- 1:18:32Speaker 19: that walks in here or our coaches can can act
- 1:18:34Speaker 19: as a leader, you know. So I think when you
- 1:18:39Speaker 19: go through personnel decisions, there's a lot of things that
- 1:18:42Speaker 19: that we'll talk about, right, age ability, durability, production, vision,
- 1:18:52Speaker 19: and so I would say that, you know, anytime we
- 1:18:54Speaker 19: talk about personnel decisions, that those are going to be
- 1:18:57Speaker 19: some of the things that that Ellie and I will
- 1:18:58Speaker 19: talk about.
- 1:19:01Speaker 10: Feel here.
- 1:19:04Speaker 25: Hey, Mike, just on the timing with David, is that
- 1:19:07Speaker 25: was it injury related for him?
- 1:19:08Speaker 9: He obviously was hurt last year.
- 1:19:11Speaker 19: I'm not gonna get into a lot of details and specifics.
- 1:19:14Speaker 19: I wanna try to, you know, celebrate these players that
- 1:19:17Speaker 19: we have here on this team that we're gonna be
- 1:19:18Speaker 19: moving forward with. Robert Elliott, you know, touched on on David.
- 1:19:23Speaker 19: But you know, we're just trying to trying to move
- 1:19:27Speaker 19: forward here and and and continue to sign and add
- 1:19:29Speaker 19: players that we feel like are gonna help us uh
- 1:19:31Speaker 19: win and and s and really start preparing at April seventh.
- 1:19:36Speaker 5: Last few questions.
- 1:19:37Speaker 26: First, price, am I how much if it all did?
- 1:19:43Speaker 26: Maybe the previous feeling of familiarity you have with some
- 1:19:47Speaker 26: of these guys, not just you, but the coaching st
- 1:19:49Speaker 26: the extended to coaching staff have in terms.
- 1:19:51Speaker 19: Of I I don't know how you could do free
- 1:19:53Speaker 19: agency any any differently, Like I really don't just the
- 1:19:56Speaker 19: timing that's involved with a lot of this stuff.
- 1:20:00Speaker 12: You know, it's important to.
- 1:20:02Speaker 19: Me and Roberts and trusted Elliott and myself to bring
- 1:20:06Speaker 19: the right people onto this football team. And so if
- 1:20:09Speaker 19: we have coaches that we trust and then believe in
- 1:20:11Speaker 19: that have been with players, we have to take that
- 1:20:15Speaker 19: into consideration. If there's players at Elliott or anybody else
- 1:20:18Speaker 19: in the personnel department have had or myself, I think
- 1:20:24Speaker 19: that that's critical, you know what I mean? We have
- 1:20:25Speaker 19: to evaluate the tape. That's that's the first thing we do,
- 1:20:28Speaker 19: Like we watch the tape, and then it's what what
- 1:20:32Speaker 19: is this person? Who are we gonna get every single day?
- 1:20:35Speaker 19: Because there's gonna be times in every football season that
- 1:20:39Speaker 19: it's not going well, and I've seen it from these
- 1:20:41Speaker 19: players that they're not going anywhere, and the other ones
- 1:20:43Speaker 19: that we bring in and the other ones that are
- 1:20:45Speaker 19: down in that locker room right now, like they're resilient,
- 1:20:48Speaker 19: they're not going to back down when things aren't bad.
- 1:20:51Speaker 12: They can handle adversity, they'll attack adversity. So that's what
- 1:20:56Speaker 12: the idea is.
- 1:20:57Speaker 19: And it really helps when you know somebody or a
- 1:20:59Speaker 19: coach or trusted personnel member has been with that player.
- 1:21:03Speaker 12: It's it's just hard, you know, I mean, that's it's important.
- 1:21:09Speaker 27: Mike.
- 1:21:09Speaker 28: How do you view Carlton's skill set and how it
- 1:21:12Speaker 28: pairs with Christian unlocking what you might be able to
- 1:21:16Speaker 28: do defensively?
- 1:21:17Speaker 19: Yeah, hopefully we can just play cat coverage like you
- 1:21:20Speaker 19: got that cat, I got this cat, and we can
- 1:21:22Speaker 19: go to work. So just an aggressive step, I mean,
- 1:21:26Speaker 19: just the the I would say. The thing I appreciate
- 1:21:29Speaker 19: about watching CD is that they may catch a ball
- 1:21:34Speaker 19: on him and he just lines back up and he
- 1:21:36Speaker 19: competes and he challenges and he tries to play aggressive
- 1:21:40Speaker 19: and there's a there's a play style that we embrace.
- 1:21:44Speaker 12: And so corners are it's a tough.
- 1:21:46Speaker 19: Position in the National Football League, right and so they're
- 1:21:50Speaker 19: gonna have that passes that are caught on him, it's
- 1:21:52Speaker 19: can they line back up the next snap and challenge
- 1:21:56Speaker 19: and compete and get their hand on the next football,
- 1:21:58Speaker 19: And that would be I would say. Outside of his
- 1:22:00Speaker 19: physical skill set is the mental makeup.
- 1:22:03Speaker 12: And Morgan, we didn't you get a follow up now
- 1:22:06Speaker 12: and everybody else had to follow up.
- 1:22:07Speaker 28: I just want to touch on Morgan because the four
- 1:22:09Speaker 28: guys are here yep, and we didn't touch What does.
- 1:22:12Speaker 5: He bring well?
- 1:22:13Speaker 19: I think just a great veteran leadership, you know, tell
- 1:22:19Speaker 19: us a funny story. After we were able to commit,
- 1:22:22Speaker 19: we were able to have a conversation, and so I
- 1:22:26Speaker 19: face timed them with the boys.
- 1:22:27Speaker 12: You've got three boys a tour here.
- 1:22:29Speaker 5: You'll see.
- 1:22:30Speaker 19: But they're all eating candy. And I said, oh, you
- 1:22:32Speaker 19: guys are lucky. It's just celebrating. He goes, don't worry.
- 1:22:34Speaker 19: I'll have him out there working training at four o'clock
- 1:22:36Speaker 19: after we get done eating all this candy.
- 1:22:38Speaker 12: And I'm like, man, can you just let him have
- 1:22:41Speaker 12: a good time today. He's like, Nope, They're going out
- 1:22:43Speaker 12: training at four o'clock and that's what we're going to do.
- 1:22:45Speaker 12: So there's been a repeated.
- 1:22:47Speaker 19: Experience of taking care of his body, playing a demanding position,
- 1:22:52Speaker 19: what he brings in the locker room. But again, there's
- 1:22:55Speaker 19: been a great product on the field with length, size,
- 1:22:59Speaker 19: and we were excited to add him and his family.
- 1:23:02Speaker 19: Thank you guys, And with that, I would now want
- 1:23:04Speaker 19: to introduce CD Carlin Carlton Davis.
- 1:23:18Speaker 15: No applause here, nobody flopping, No, how y'all doing?
- 1:23:26Speaker 6: Some people looking from.
- 1:23:27Speaker 22: Ryland, Hi, Carlton, Welcome to New England. I was just curious.
- 1:23:31Speaker 29: Elliott talked about how he were always someone who he
- 1:23:34Speaker 29: wanted to Uh, well, he wanted to draft you and
- 1:23:36Speaker 29: then you know he wanted to pick you up.
- 1:23:38Speaker 22: What's it like to hear that and what was kind
- 1:23:40Speaker 22: of that final motivation for you to come to New England.
- 1:23:43Speaker 15: It's always good to be wanted, especially in this in
- 1:23:46Speaker 15: this league. I didn't know.
- 1:23:47Speaker 30: I didn't know, uh uh that was a story behind it.
- 1:23:51Speaker 30: But you know, it's always good to be wanted in
- 1:23:54Speaker 30: this league. And you know, uh, part of the decision
- 1:23:56Speaker 30: of me coming here was you know, them prioritizing me
- 1:23:59Speaker 30: and you know, being able to you know, just get
- 1:24:05Speaker 30: me here.
- 1:24:05Speaker 28: You know.
- 1:24:06Speaker 30: Uh, obviously I was in Detroit and uh, you know,
- 1:24:09Speaker 30: we had a great season last year, but you know, ultimately,
- 1:24:13Speaker 30: you know, just being somewhere where you feel prioritized and
- 1:24:16Speaker 30: you know, going somewhere where you know you uh are
- 1:24:20Speaker 30: familiar with you know, Terrell Williams and you know I've
- 1:24:23Speaker 30: always been a fan of uh Mike and how he
- 1:24:26Speaker 30: ran Tennessee. So you know that was part of the decision,
- 1:24:29Speaker 30: and you know, I'm happy to be here.
- 1:24:31Speaker 10: Cool Nato, Hey, Carlton, just what were your impressions of
- 1:24:39Speaker 10: Terrell Williams last year in Detroit?
- 1:24:41Speaker 15: Uh?
- 1:24:42Speaker 30: He was a real cool dude, you know, real he
- 1:24:45Speaker 30: w W. He wasn't quiet, he wasn't allowed. Uh always
- 1:24:49Speaker 30: gave UH great presentations when it came to our defensive meetings.
- 1:24:53Speaker 30: You know, one of the best d line coaches in
- 1:24:55Speaker 30: the NFL, and UH, you know we always had like
- 1:24:58Speaker 30: a a respect list ship where he understood what I've
- 1:25:02Speaker 30: gone to the game. And you know, it's always good
- 1:25:04Speaker 30: when you get a good coach like that to uh,
- 1:25:06Speaker 30: you know, give you respect and acknowledge what you do.
- 1:25:08Speaker 30: So you know, I wasn't there for too long, so
- 1:25:12Speaker 30: I can't write a book about it, but obviously you know,
- 1:25:15Speaker 30: he I gave a good impression on him, and he
- 1:25:17Speaker 30: had a good impression for me.
- 1:25:21Speaker 6: Days like the congratulations.
- 1:25:25Speaker 20: H how do you feel about Christian Zalist and how
- 1:25:27Speaker 20: do you feel about teaming up.
- 1:25:28Speaker 5: With him in the secondary.
- 1:25:29Speaker 15: I'm excited, man, I'm excited.
- 1:25:31Speaker 31: Uh.
- 1:25:31Speaker 30: He's a young, great player. I've watched his film even
- 1:25:34Speaker 30: when he was coming out of college. Uh watched this film.
- 1:25:37Speaker 30: I always kind of do a little background check on
- 1:25:40Speaker 30: the corners coming in the league. I guess it's a
- 1:25:42Speaker 30: competitive thing, but I liked his film. He's long, he's rangy,
- 1:25:47Speaker 30: UH got good ball skills.
- 1:25:49Speaker 5: He's had.
- 1:25:49Speaker 30: He had a really good year last year, in my opinion.
- 1:25:51Speaker 30: I didn't watch too money uh Patriots uh defensive tapes,
- 1:25:55Speaker 30: but uh, from what I've seen on the highlights.
- 1:25:58Speaker 15: He looked like he was uh playing good ball.
- 1:26:00Speaker 30: And I'm always eager to match up or just kind
- 1:26:03Speaker 30: of team up with guys who has similar skill sets
- 1:26:06Speaker 30: to me and uh can help push me in practice.
- 1:26:09Speaker 30: And I could push him at practice, and you know,
- 1:26:11Speaker 30: it's always the iron as sharpenings iron.
- 1:26:13Speaker 15: So I'm excited for that.
- 1:26:14Speaker 30: I'm I'm excited to get to practice with him, get
- 1:26:17Speaker 30: to know him a little bit, pick his brain, just
- 1:26:19Speaker 30: kind of see how we can help each other grow.
- 1:26:24Speaker 12: Yep, Co.
- 1:26:31Speaker 23: And Carlton, I know that you were teammates with Tom Brady,
- 1:26:34Speaker 23: still big deal around here. Uh what do you remember
- 1:26:36Speaker 23: about the time playing with him?
- 1:26:39Speaker 15: Man? Tom was a great guy.
- 1:26:42Speaker 30: I was just telling somebody earlier today that I learned
- 1:26:45Speaker 30: so much from him and I didn't even have too
- 1:26:47Speaker 30: many conversations with him, but just how he carried hisself,
- 1:26:51Speaker 30: how he went about the game. He impacted us on
- 1:26:55Speaker 30: the field and off the field in Tampa, just from
- 1:26:58Speaker 30: not just how seriously took practice and how focus he was,
- 1:27:02Speaker 30: but also how diligent he was in his recovery, everything
- 1:27:07Speaker 30: he did to continue to be the same guy every day, taking.
- 1:27:10Speaker 15: Care of his body. And uh, he would give us
- 1:27:13Speaker 15: little tips on.
- 1:27:14Speaker 30: What to do, and you know, just how to be
- 1:27:16Speaker 30: a professional and how to be successful in this league
- 1:27:19Speaker 30: and in this game. So I'm always thankful for having
- 1:27:23Speaker 30: to share locker room with him and having to win
- 1:27:25Speaker 30: games and win a championship with him. I learned so
- 1:27:28Speaker 30: much and I'm so Uh, I'm just grateful for the opportunity.
- 1:27:33Speaker 5: Chris christ.
- 1:27:35Speaker 11: Prolong you heard might talk a little bit about the
- 1:27:37Speaker 11: pitch to the free agents.
- 1:27:39Speaker 26: What was the pitch like for you in your experience
- 1:27:41Speaker 26: talking to him, talking to Eliot and what ultimately sealed the.
- 1:27:45Speaker 11: Deal for you here and doing.
- 1:27:48Speaker 30: You know, I would say me being a priority and
- 1:27:53Speaker 30: you know, also being able to come here and uh
- 1:27:57Speaker 30: you know, do something historical here in a historical place.
- 1:28:00Speaker 30: You know, like I said, I've always been a fan
- 1:28:02Speaker 30: of Mike, uh even down in Tennessee and you know,
- 1:28:07Speaker 30: uh t big t coming here and being in DC
- 1:28:10Speaker 30: and you know, just knowing how he was as a coach,
- 1:28:14Speaker 30: understanding the room I was coming into, the talent I
- 1:28:19Speaker 30: could play with, and just the the the ability to
- 1:28:23Speaker 30: be able to come somewhere and build something and come
- 1:28:25Speaker 30: somewhere and start a legacy was was big for me.
- 1:28:30Speaker 30: I in in Detroit, I had a good I had
- 1:28:32Speaker 30: a good run with him, I can't lie, had a
- 1:28:34Speaker 30: good season with them, and you know, it was a
- 1:28:36Speaker 30: lot of fun with those guys. But you know, ultimately
- 1:28:40Speaker 30: I wanted to, you know, be somewhere where I felt
- 1:28:43Speaker 30: like I was a party, be somewhere where I felt
- 1:28:46Speaker 30: like I could come here and build and you know,
- 1:28:48Speaker 30: I could be a a leader. And not to say
- 1:28:50Speaker 30: I wasn't a leader there, but uh, you know, I
- 1:28:53Speaker 30: wanted to be somewhere that uh appreciated me and uh
- 1:28:57Speaker 30: me and my family and made me feel welcome. Not
- 1:29:00Speaker 30: to say not to throw any say it cause I
- 1:29:02Speaker 30: I know I had like to twist things up and
- 1:29:03Speaker 30: ye and I and I love Detroit. I I would
- 1:29:05Speaker 30: never want to throw say the three one three. We
- 1:29:08Speaker 30: had a a great year and I I I know
- 1:29:11Speaker 30: how this goes. Uh, but you know, like I said, man,
- 1:29:14Speaker 30: you know in this league, there's a there's a short
- 1:29:17Speaker 30: time here, and you wanna make it really efficient. Uh
- 1:29:20Speaker 30: and and and coming here. I understand the opportunity here.
- 1:29:23Speaker 30: I understand it's a rebuild. I understand that you know,
- 1:29:27Speaker 30: there's great coaches here and uh you know Detroit has
- 1:29:31Speaker 30: a a great thing going. But I feel like we
- 1:29:32Speaker 30: can have a great thing going here.
- 1:29:35Speaker 4: The last question major killing it.
- 1:29:37Speaker 5: Carlton moultoms to New England.
- 1:29:39Speaker 31: Uh.
- 1:29:39Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you about the time you played here.
- 1:29:41Speaker 24: Described it as a historical place.
- 1:29:43Speaker 5: Obviously, Tom came.
- 1:29:43Speaker 11: Back that nineteen twenty twenty one, you get a tackle
- 1:29:46Speaker 11: past break up.
- 1:29:46Speaker 5: What do you remember about the environment in your.
- 1:29:48Speaker 30: One game here and the way it was a crazy environment.
- 1:29:52Speaker 30: One thing I do remember. I was talking about choir here,
- 1:29:54Speaker 30: so not something that I wanna remember, but I was
- 1:29:58Speaker 30: having a good game up in til then and the
- 1:30:01Speaker 30: environment was electric. I had never played here before and
- 1:30:03Speaker 30: I didn't know how it would be coming coming here,
- 1:30:08Speaker 30: you know. Uh, but it was like really really vibrant.
- 1:30:11Speaker 30: Everybody was just I mean, obviously Tom's coming back, so
- 1:30:14Speaker 30: why wouldn't it be, but it it definitely impressed me.
- 1:30:17Speaker 30: The crowd was so into it, and it was like
- 1:30:20Speaker 30: the lights just seemed a little bit brighter. I don't
- 1:30:22Speaker 30: know why I did, it seemed a little bit brighter,
- 1:30:26Speaker 30: but you know, I was impressed.
- 1:30:27Speaker 15: I was impressed.
- 1:30:28Speaker 12: Uh, the crowd was.
- 1:30:29Speaker 15: Really into it.
- 1:30:29Speaker 30: You could feel the love of football in the city.
- 1:30:33Speaker 30: I mean, I guess it helps that Tom came back
- 1:30:35Speaker 30: and he hadn't been back since he left, but uh, yeah,
- 1:30:39Speaker 30: I was impressed very much.
- 1:30:43Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 1:30:47Speaker 10: How d your head?
- 1:30:48Speaker 4: If you have questions? Who have wits?
- 1:30:49Speaker 28: You be here in the middle sorta what Let's start
- 1:31:00Speaker 28: with how how the kids respond to that workout before?
- 1:31:03Speaker 32: Uh? Uh, they know if I gotta work out, they
- 1:31:06Speaker 32: gotta pull they their own their own pockets too, so
- 1:31:09Speaker 32: you know, It's part of being in the family business.
- 1:31:11Speaker 32: So you know, I try to raise men at home.
- 1:31:14Speaker 32: You know, I didn't have that when I was growing
- 1:31:16Speaker 32: up that much. So being able to give that to
- 1:31:18Speaker 32: them is vital to my DNA. So just being able
- 1:31:21Speaker 32: to have boys and and show them the way it's
- 1:31:23Speaker 32: always been my my my DNA.
- 1:31:26Speaker 5: And in the follow up, Uh, what.
- 1:31:27Speaker 6: Is it about this opportunity that appeal to you know?
- 1:31:31Speaker 32: Obviously, you know, playing a lot of ball over the
- 1:31:34Speaker 32: course of my career, you know, going in year twelve, man,
- 1:31:37Speaker 32: you know obviously the the historic you know, the history
- 1:31:41Speaker 32: of being the Patriot and obviously man, you know, y,
- 1:31:43Speaker 32: I know the the question is coming about you know,
- 1:31:46Speaker 32: what was the pitch of coming here? But when you
- 1:31:48Speaker 32: got a guy like coach Rabel, Man, you don't need
- 1:31:50Speaker 32: a pitch man, you know, cause I know how it
- 1:31:52Speaker 32: is holding back the hold the bag for our offensive
- 1:31:54Speaker 32: line and d lineman out there. I practice when I'm
- 1:31:56Speaker 32: holding my son's my son's bags or I'm coaching his team,
- 1:32:00Speaker 32: and h it hurts when you only got pads on.
- 1:32:02Speaker 5: So you know, for a guy like that to go
- 1:32:05Speaker 5: out there and do that, and.
- 1:32:06Speaker 32: Obviously he's won in most multiple advanceds of his career,
- 1:32:10Speaker 32: you know, and as a player and as a coach.
- 1:32:13Speaker 32: So when you got a guy that a leader of men,
- 1:32:16Speaker 32: that's willing to to step aside and put hisself on
- 1:32:19Speaker 32: the line for the better good for the team, it's
- 1:32:21Speaker 32: an easy decision, like your.
- 1:32:25Speaker 31: Or in.
- 1:32:26Speaker 11: It's a very young room right now. I know there's
- 1:32:28Speaker 11: still work that could be done to to fill the room.
- 1:32:30Speaker 5: You're the y I quote unquot the old guy, the
- 1:32:32Speaker 5: veteran guy.
- 1:32:32Speaker 6: How how O g O G Oh?
- 1:32:34Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I how can you help those guys? You know,
- 1:32:39Speaker 5: It's been part of my DNA.
- 1:32:41Speaker 26: Man.
- 1:32:41Speaker 32: You know, I had great vets when I came into
- 1:32:43Speaker 32: the league as Trent Williams and and guys like that.
- 1:32:45Speaker 32: And you know, one thing he always told me as
- 1:32:48Speaker 32: a player coming up through this league, man, make sure
- 1:32:49Speaker 32: you pass it down.
- 1:32:51Speaker 5: And that's been, you know, been a part of me.
- 1:32:53Speaker 32: You know. Obviously I had you know, last year, I
- 1:32:55Speaker 32: had Olu who was a first round draft pick, young guy,
- 1:32:58Speaker 32: and he played multiple uh POM positions for us last year.
- 1:33:01Speaker 32: So being able to take him and and and obviously
- 1:33:05Speaker 32: just not take him and show him the way because
- 1:33:07Speaker 32: obviously it's just there's certain things that that he's done
- 1:33:10Speaker 32: in college that I didn't get to do. Because the
- 1:33:12Speaker 32: game is evolved so much, you wind up learning, you
- 1:33:15Speaker 32: wind up learning yourself. And that's the thing is like
- 1:33:17Speaker 32: when you're competing, whether it's in any facet of life,
- 1:33:21Speaker 32: when you're able to teach somebody and show them things
- 1:33:23Speaker 32: and you're able to learn in that room, it makes
- 1:33:25Speaker 32: everybody better because that guy behind you is getting better
- 1:33:27Speaker 32: every day. So you can't be a complacent player and
- 1:33:30Speaker 32: be that same person. You gotta show up every day
- 1:33:32Speaker 32: and make yourself better. So when you have that mentality
- 1:33:34Speaker 32: for a room, especially for an offensive line, because we operate,
- 1:33:38Speaker 32: you know as one five equals one. We never leave
- 1:33:41Speaker 32: the field. You know, those are the two positions quarterback
- 1:33:44Speaker 32: and in offensive line. We never leave the field. We're
- 1:33:46Speaker 32: always on the field. We can't raise our hand and say, hey, coach,
- 1:33:48Speaker 32: we need a water break. So it's very important for
- 1:33:51Speaker 32: us to be able to work together, you know, not
- 1:33:54Speaker 32: even on the field, but off the field as well,
- 1:33:56Speaker 32: getting to know each other, you know, dinners and things
- 1:33:59Speaker 32: like that, because I truly believe you know, if you
- 1:34:02Speaker 32: don't know your brother's off the field, how can you
- 1:34:03Speaker 32: go to battle with them on the field. So bringing
- 1:34:06Speaker 32: that mentality as a older guy in the locker room
- 1:34:08Speaker 32: and just bringing guys along and showing.
- 1:34:10Speaker 5: Them the way, it's gonna be a great deal for us.
- 1:34:15Speaker 20: Like more gah, congratulations l eleven NFL seasons. What has
- 1:34:19Speaker 20: allowed you uh to stay healthy, to stay productive for
- 1:34:22Speaker 20: after eleven years?
- 1:34:23Speaker 32: I would say the biggest thing is just not s
- 1:34:25Speaker 32: not staying complacent, you know, being able to come in
- 1:34:27Speaker 32: and a and and learn different techniques, being willing to
- 1:34:30Speaker 32: learn different techniques. And you know, obviously over my career,
- 1:34:33Speaker 32: I've had great coaches. I had Bill Callahan when I
- 1:34:35Speaker 32: was young in the league, and obviously he taught me
- 1:34:37Speaker 32: a lot. And obviously you know his name rings Bells
- 1:34:39Speaker 32: throughout the league that's offensive line.
- 1:34:41Speaker 5: But also having veterans man.
- 1:34:42Speaker 32: You know, last year I was with Tyron Smith, so
- 1:34:44Speaker 32: I got to learn a lot of things from him,
- 1:34:46Speaker 32: you know, future Hall of Famer I I was with
- 1:34:48Speaker 32: Trent Williams.
- 1:34:48Speaker 5: I w it was Donald Penn.
- 1:34:50Speaker 32: So when you get to take a little bit of
- 1:34:52Speaker 32: you know, knowledge from everybody else and mix it in
- 1:34:54Speaker 32: your own mixing bowl and come up with your own recipe,
- 1:34:58Speaker 32: that's what you get, you get longevity in the NFL
- 1:35:00Speaker 32: and just being able to take care of your body.
- 1:35:02Speaker 5: Just know what you need.
- 1:35:03Speaker 32: You know, now every time you can, you can go
- 1:35:05Speaker 32: in the weight room and throw four hundred pounds on
- 1:35:06Speaker 32: the bench and bench pressure. Some days you need, you know,
- 1:35:09Speaker 32: you might need pilates, you might need yoga, you might
- 1:35:11Speaker 32: able to sprinkle some things in just so you know,
- 1:35:14Speaker 32: just kind of just knowing your body and just learning
- 1:35:15Speaker 32: your own regiment, fine tuning things, but just being a
- 1:35:18Speaker 32: professional every day coming in. You know, even in the
- 1:35:21Speaker 32: days that you don't you don't wanna come in, you know,
- 1:35:22Speaker 32: those be those when you when you get down to
- 1:35:25Speaker 32: the work. You know, that's those are your best days
- 1:35:27Speaker 32: when you come in. In those days you're a little
- 1:35:29Speaker 32: sore and you don't feel like practicing. But you got
- 1:35:31Speaker 32: a god like Milton that's not gonna slow down, you
- 1:35:33Speaker 32: know what I'm saying, Cause he's still hungry, so he
- 1:35:34Speaker 32: gonna challenge you every day. So that's what you want
- 1:35:37Speaker 32: in those trenches. You know, I like likes like CD say,
- 1:35:40Speaker 32: you know, iron sharp and iron, and that's what we
- 1:35:42Speaker 32: building here. We not we just not building a team,
- 1:35:43Speaker 32: We building a brotherhood.
- 1:35:46Speaker 6: What'd you find to talk with Morgan?
- 1:35:49Speaker 5: Welcome UH to New England.
- 1:35:50Speaker 24: Appreciate that you talk about your regiment from a specific
- 1:35:53Speaker 24: diet and training standpoint. What can you give us some
- 1:35:56Speaker 24: details though? What's allowed you to keep playing at a
- 1:35:58Speaker 24: high level or thirty four?
- 1:36:00Speaker 32: You know, you know obviously, you know, being in the trenches, man,
- 1:36:02Speaker 32: you're always gonna get banged up.
- 1:36:03Speaker 5: You know.
- 1:36:03Speaker 32: Last year I dealt with a knee injury from week
- 1:36:05Speaker 32: three on man and you know, just you know, sleeping
- 1:36:08Speaker 32: in the hyperbaric chamber, getting up early morning it's five
- 1:36:11Speaker 32: o'clock to go into the facility to make sure you
- 1:36:13Speaker 32: know the train or see you doing your thing, and
- 1:36:16Speaker 32: just you know, obviously you know, not every day you
- 1:36:17Speaker 32: gonna feel well to be able to do everything. So
- 1:36:20Speaker 32: you know, watching that tape, you know what I'm saying,
- 1:36:21Speaker 32: and and and obviously being the a guy that's going
- 1:36:23Speaker 32: in year twelve, I've never been scared of the actually
- 1:36:25Speaker 32: younger guy I coach.
- 1:36:26Speaker 5: You know, what can I do better? You know?
- 1:36:28Speaker 32: So every every day just coming in with something to
- 1:36:30Speaker 32: get you know, everybody thinks that this jump in the NFL,
- 1:36:32Speaker 32: you gotta go from A to Z right here, But
- 1:36:35Speaker 32: I wanna go to A to B and then go
- 1:36:37Speaker 32: to Z. You know, as long as I stay at A,
- 1:36:39Speaker 32: it doesn't matter as long as as much time as
- 1:36:41Speaker 32: I stay at A, as long as I know when
- 1:36:42Speaker 32: I leave A that I've completed that and I don't
- 1:36:44Speaker 32: have to go backwards.
- 1:36:45Speaker 5: I know I'm in the right step.
- 1:36:47Speaker 32: So it's really just one ch of the time, man,
- 1:36:49Speaker 32: you know, just taking taking time learning, learning ball And obviously,
- 1:36:52Speaker 32: you know, we got a young talented quarterback back there,
- 1:36:55Speaker 32: so being able to pick his brain, understand him, understand
- 1:36:57Speaker 32: what he sees on the field so I can be
- 1:36:59Speaker 32: better and my approach and blocking for him, you know.
- 1:37:01Speaker 32: And obviously being in the league for a while, you know,
- 1:37:05Speaker 32: I've seen a lot of things.
- 1:37:06Speaker 5: You know.
- 1:37:07Speaker 32: Obviously, you know defenses, they all run the same defense,
- 1:37:10Speaker 32: just different personnel.
- 1:37:11Speaker 5: You're never gonna have two in the same gap.
- 1:37:12Speaker 32: So just being able to share that knowledge in that
- 1:37:14Speaker 32: football IQ with him, you know, to help raise his game,
- 1:37:17Speaker 32: is gonna make us a lot better.
- 1:37:19Speaker 5: Help her last person, Hey Morgan back here, gotcha? Sorry, Hawaii.
- 1:37:25Speaker 21: How important is it to this collective group of free
- 1:37:30Speaker 21: agents to kind of as a group instill a culture
- 1:37:34Speaker 21: and a sense of urgency.
- 1:37:37Speaker 5: I guess.
- 1:37:37Speaker 21: I mean Mike came here in two thousand and one
- 1:37:39Speaker 21: as part of a free agent group from a team
- 1:37:42Speaker 21: that wasn't that good the year before, and then things
- 1:37:44Speaker 21: really flipped because a lot of the guys who were
- 1:37:46Speaker 21: brought in work together, it seemed in helping to instill
- 1:37:50Speaker 21: a culture. Do you guys take that kind of maybe
- 1:37:52Speaker 21: collective responsibility.
- 1:37:54Speaker 32: You know, you don't need a miracle to win football games.
- 1:37:56Speaker 32: You know, you just need to write people in the building.
- 1:37:59Speaker 32: And obviously coach Very Vabele's here. You know we got
- 1:38:01Speaker 32: the right people. You know, you know, our owner is
- 1:38:03Speaker 32: an amazing owner. And then obviously you know we got
- 1:38:06Speaker 32: guys that's you know, CD wont in Super Bowl, Milton
- 1:38:09Speaker 32: just wonted Super Bowl. They're gonna bring knowledge of the
- 1:38:11Speaker 32: game on how to be longevity through those weeks of
- 1:38:13Speaker 32: Week eighteen, nineteen twenty, when it when it hurts, right,
- 1:38:16Speaker 32: when when when people wanna tap out? How to keep going?
- 1:38:19Speaker 32: And so you know, it's important for us to be
- 1:38:22Speaker 32: able to learn from one another. And everybody has different qualities.
- 1:38:25Speaker 32: You know, Robert he told you know, eight years in
- 1:38:27Speaker 32: the league as a as a a free agent without
- 1:38:29Speaker 32: a tryout, you know, and he come in here and
- 1:38:31Speaker 32: now he's one hundred and forty p tackles, you know,
- 1:38:34Speaker 32: two years in a row.
- 1:38:35Speaker 5: That doesn't happen overnight. That's preparation.
- 1:38:37Speaker 32: That's dog, that's brotherhood, that's mentality that somebody that comes
- 1:38:39Speaker 32: in the building every day to learn. So guys are
- 1:38:41Speaker 32: gonna get around these guys and we're gonna talk football.
- 1:38:44Speaker 32: We're gonna talk IQ, We're gonna talk brotherhood. We're gonna
- 1:38:46Speaker 32: learn about each other off the field and on the field.
- 1:38:47Speaker 32: So when we get on the field, nothing that that
- 1:38:50Speaker 32: that comes at us. You known, no adversity that touches
- 1:38:52Speaker 32: us on the field that's gonna be able to break us.
- 1:38:54Speaker 32: Cause we gonna have an unbelievable bond. And so when
- 1:38:56Speaker 32: we run out to that tunnel on Sundays, Mondays and Thursday,
- 1:38:59Speaker 32: you gonna see something diff You gonna feel something different
- 1:39:01Speaker 32: because we gonna go out there as a one unit,
- 1:39:03Speaker 32: you know, and we're gonna play football together.
- 1:39:06Speaker 5: Welcome, appreciate y'all.
- 1:39:17Speaker 13: How's it going good?
- 1:39:21Speaker 15: Alright?
- 1:39:22Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 1:39:26Speaker 28: Your growth the last two years as a player.
- 1:39:29Speaker 6: What do you attribute that to?
- 1:39:32Speaker 13: I have to say, and I always say It doesn't
- 1:39:34Speaker 13: happen by accident. It doesn't happen overnight. This has been
- 1:39:37Speaker 13: years in the making, years of intentional actions throughout every day,
- 1:39:43Speaker 13: living my life a certain way to try to get
- 1:39:45Speaker 13: to where I am right now.
- 1:39:52Speaker 23: Here, Robert, Welcome to New England. What was about playing
- 1:39:55Speaker 23: with Mike Rabel that you know made this an appealing
- 1:39:57Speaker 23: spot for you.
- 1:40:00Speaker 13: I've known Coach Rabel from a young age, from high
- 1:40:04Speaker 13: school when he was a recruiter at Ohio State. Always
- 1:40:08Speaker 13: admired his playing career and his coaching career. When when
- 1:40:11Speaker 13: you get around a guy like Coach Rabel, you really
- 1:40:14Speaker 13: feel that intensity, you feel that passion, And I like
- 1:40:18Speaker 13: to say I fall into that same boat of intensity
- 1:40:20Speaker 13: and passion and heart. And so I've gotten along with
- 1:40:24Speaker 13: him great in Tennessee and I can't wait to continue
- 1:40:28Speaker 13: to form that relationship.
- 1:40:32Speaker 5: Robert.
- 1:40:33Speaker 27: Looking at your tape, one thing that jumps out is
- 1:40:35Speaker 27: the fact that you were always getting your hands on passes.
- 1:40:37Speaker 27: And I'm curious because in your preparation process and what
- 1:40:39Speaker 27: do you attribute to being able to make somebody plays
- 1:40:41Speaker 27: like that on the field.
- 1:40:42Speaker 13: Yeah, quite a few different things. One of the things
- 1:40:45Speaker 13: I study on the field is spatial awareness. So I
- 1:40:47Speaker 13: like to know where I am on the field without
- 1:40:50Speaker 13: having to open my eyes. So I do a lot
- 1:40:52Speaker 13: of eyes closed training to be better spacially aware of
- 1:40:56Speaker 13: where I'm going without having a look. Attribute the ball
- 1:41:01Speaker 13: skills to playing offense, growing up as an offensive player,
- 1:41:05Speaker 13: a running back, a receiver, always playing catch every single day.
- 1:41:09Speaker 13: You'll see me out at practice twenty thirty minutes early,
- 1:41:11Speaker 13: just because I love getting my hands on the football.
- 1:41:14Speaker 13: That's how you're gonna essentially change the outcome of games,
- 1:41:18Speaker 13: getting interceptions, forcing the ball out, getting PBUs TFLs, giving
- 1:41:22Speaker 13: guys a chance like CD to go make players on
- 1:41:25Speaker 13: third and long. So I pride myself on that.
- 1:41:29Speaker 21: Sure, Robert, what do you want Patriots fans to know
- 1:41:35Speaker 21: what that they can expect from you as a player
- 1:41:37Speaker 21: and a person.
- 1:41:38Speaker 13: Yeah, I want the patriotation to know that I'm gonna
- 1:41:40Speaker 13: pour my heart into this city, into this community, into
- 1:41:44Speaker 13: this team. I care deeply about what I do. I
- 1:41:47Speaker 13: bring passion and heart every everywhere I go. I'm just
- 1:41:52Speaker 13: so excited to get my feet in the building, get
- 1:41:54Speaker 13: get started, get to know the guys before the guys
- 1:41:57Speaker 13: want to hear what you have to say. You gotta
- 1:42:00Speaker 13: make sure they feel like you you care for them.
- 1:42:03Speaker 13: So I wanna make sure that my teammates know that
- 1:42:06Speaker 13: I'm not here trying to get them. I just want
- 1:42:09Speaker 13: what's best for them at the end of the day.
- 1:42:10Speaker 13: So I'm gonna pour my heart into my teammates.
- 1:42:19Speaker 28: You've probably heard coach Rabel mention when you got a
- 1:42:22Speaker 28: spot on the Titanus roster in twenty eighteen, and I
- 1:42:25Speaker 28: imagine this contract that you just signed probably life changing
- 1:42:29Speaker 28: in a different way, just putting those two things together.
- 1:42:32Speaker 5: How would you describe your emotions?
- 1:42:34Speaker 13: Yeah, well, coach Rabel said, Uh, I got hired in
- 1:42:37Speaker 13: twenty eighteen on Mother's Day and I got to call
- 1:42:40Speaker 13: my mom in tears saying I'm gonna be a professional
- 1:42:43Speaker 13: football player. And uh today is her birthday. So I'm
- 1:42:47Speaker 13: signing the contract on her birthday. And she's a very
- 1:42:50Speaker 13: important special woman in my life, and I just wanna
- 1:42:53Speaker 13: make her broad.
- 1:42:56Speaker 5: Very much.
- 1:42:57Speaker 11: Thank you, guys, gratulations building.
- 1:43:16Speaker 33: So the report was you're close to signing with Carolina.
- 1:43:19Speaker 33: You're here now, can you take us sort of the
- 1:43:21Speaker 33: emotions of that. Did you think you were about to
- 1:43:24Speaker 33: sign a piece of paper a to be a Carolina Panther.
- 1:43:27Speaker 5: Uh, you know it's Uh, it was a fast process.
- 1:43:33Speaker 5: My agent was telling me teams were interested, you know,
- 1:43:37Speaker 5: once a number got to a certain point, a lot
- 1:43:39Speaker 5: of teams like dropped out and the Patriots was the
- 1:43:43Speaker 5: one that wanted me the most. So Uh I made
- 1:43:47Speaker 5: a priority to come here. That made me a priority,
- 1:43:50Speaker 5: and uh they value what I bring to the table
- 1:43:52Speaker 5: as far as being a versus a player on the
- 1:43:56Speaker 5: D line, a leader.
- 1:43:59Speaker 32: Uh.
- 1:43:59Speaker 5: Hard work her and yeah, they bl they believed in me.
- 1:44:03Speaker 5: So I'm trying to give it back to 'em as
- 1:44:04Speaker 5: much as I can for noble welping and doing them
- 1:44:12Speaker 5: appreciate it.
- 1:44:13Speaker 26: What's the most important thing that you've learned over the
- 1:44:16Speaker 26: course of your career in Philadelphia and how do you
- 1:44:18Speaker 26: plan on kind of putting it to.
- 1:44:19Speaker 16: You to important?
- 1:44:22Speaker 15: Uh?
- 1:44:23Speaker 5: Hard work will never betray you and anything you know, Uh,
- 1:44:29Speaker 5: you put your head down and work at something, you
- 1:44:31Speaker 5: gonna end up being successful at it. So Uh, throughout
- 1:44:35Speaker 5: my life, Uh, everything I've gotten has not been a
- 1:44:40Speaker 5: hand out. I had to go above and beyond uh
- 1:44:45Speaker 5: all expectations to get everything that I've earned to this point.
- 1:44:49Speaker 5: So uh, I'm just blessed to be here. Uh blessed
- 1:44:54Speaker 5: UH had the opportunity to represent such a winning organization.
- 1:44:58Speaker 5: You know, you feel it once you once you come
- 1:45:00Speaker 5: through these doors and you know the standard that UHM,
- 1:45:04Speaker 5: the craft and coach Verbo that they set. Uh you
- 1:45:07Speaker 5: feel that. So I just wanna try to continue to
- 1:45:11Speaker 5: do that and build this team up to to uh
- 1:45:14Speaker 5: bring more championships in front.
- 1:45:18Speaker 22: I know the congratulations again, I sud I was just curious,
- 1:45:22Speaker 22: uh hearing a part of Patriots history now and I
- 1:45:24Speaker 22: at least signed the biggest contracts in franchise history.
- 1:45:27Speaker 29: Just what does that mean to have an organization like
- 1:45:30Speaker 29: respect you in that way to want to reward you
- 1:45:32Speaker 29: with something so big.
- 1:45:33Speaker 12: And history making.
- 1:45:35Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a that's a blessing. Man. I didn't now
- 1:45:38Speaker 5: I just won Super Bowl a couple couple weeks ago,
- 1:45:41Speaker 5: so I thought that was like the biggest day of
- 1:45:42Speaker 5: my life. But I feel part I I this probably
- 1:45:45Speaker 5: gonna jump that for sure. You know, being on is
- 1:45:48Speaker 5: uh the highest uh average salary or whatever the whatever
- 1:45:53Speaker 5: you wanna call it. Uh, that's big man. You know,
- 1:45:55Speaker 5: like I said, they believed in me. Obviously, they study
- 1:45:59Speaker 5: me as a player and as a person. Uh, they
- 1:46:02Speaker 5: know what I bring to the table. Uh, physicality, toughness, Uh, determination,
- 1:46:09Speaker 5: and you know I thrive on people telling me I
- 1:46:12Speaker 5: can't do something.
- 1:46:13Speaker 11: So bring it on, Milton.
- 1:46:17Speaker 23: Congratulations.
- 1:46:18Speaker 10: Uh.
- 1:46:18Speaker 23: Coach Rabel who was talking about in wanting to play
- 1:46:21Speaker 23: you more than you played in Philadelphia? How'd you feel
- 1:46:23Speaker 23: about that?
- 1:46:24Speaker 12: And is that exciting for you?
- 1:46:26Speaker 5: Definitely? Uh. The more you're out there, the more opportunity
- 1:46:29Speaker 5: you got to make plays. And I pride myself on
- 1:46:32Speaker 5: being productive from wherever I line up on h on
- 1:46:35Speaker 5: the defensive line, and you know, I'm go'a bring it here.
- 1:46:42Speaker 27: Oh, Milt, you broke out last year as a pass rusher,
- 1:46:44Speaker 27: but also you've done some dirty work as a run defender.
- 1:46:46Speaker 27: How important is it to you to be a well
- 1:46:48Speaker 27: rounded player and what goes into that process of being
- 1:46:50Speaker 27: that kind of well rounded figure.
- 1:46:52Speaker 31: Uh.
- 1:46:52Speaker 5: I just wanna be known as do it all, versatile
- 1:46:55Speaker 5: Swiss army knife. Like I said, line up anywhere and
- 1:46:59Speaker 5: be productive from any spot, run past, if I got
- 1:47:02Speaker 5: a drop in coverage, I feel like I can do
- 1:47:04Speaker 5: that wherever they need me to be, whatever they need
- 1:47:08Speaker 5: me to do, I'm ready. I'm ready for the challenge.
- 1:47:12Speaker 5: And what goes into that is just like I said,
- 1:47:15Speaker 5: you know, hard work obviously with great coaches.
- 1:47:18Speaker 31: Uh.
- 1:47:19Speaker 5: You know, he played this game a long time now
- 1:47:21Speaker 5: he coaching, so I'm obviously i'ma be picking his brain
- 1:47:23Speaker 5: a lot, uh coach t uh. And then the players here,
- 1:47:27Speaker 5: you know, find the vents, you know, picked their brain.
- 1:47:30Speaker 5: I did a lot of that in Philadelphia with uh
- 1:47:32Speaker 5: Brandon Graham, UH Jay von Hardgrave, Josh Sweat, uh Darry Barnett.
- 1:47:38Speaker 5: These guys, you know, they they took me under the wing.
- 1:47:42Speaker 5: UH taught me how to take care of my body
- 1:47:44Speaker 5: and just going to practice and getting better every single day.
- 1:47:47Speaker 5: And you know they lead to winning games and winning
- 1:47:50Speaker 5: playoff games and two balls. So that's all I know.
- 1:47:55Speaker 25: Hey, Bill, if you are asked to play more snaps hot,
- 1:47:59Speaker 25: how will you try to maintain the level that you
- 1:48:01Speaker 25: showed in Philadelphia while still being on the field a
- 1:48:05Speaker 25: little bit more.
- 1:48:07Speaker 5: Putting in work, putting in works playing and simple uh
- 1:48:12Speaker 5: extra work, uh aksing the coaches, whatever I need to
- 1:48:15Speaker 5: do to uh make sure I'm available for every game Sunday,
- 1:48:19Speaker 5: like you said, Sunday, Monday, Thursday. I wanna be out there.
- 1:48:22Speaker 5: I wanna be out there. Representing my teammates, this organization,
- 1:48:27Speaker 5: and uh yeah, like I ain't gonna leave no stone
- 1:48:30Speaker 5: unturned when it comes to uh preparing, Uh, being healthy,
- 1:48:34Speaker 5: being in the best shape that I can be in,
- 1:48:36Speaker 5: and being out there and being productive laws question of
- 1:48:40Speaker 5: cure career.
- 1:48:42Speaker 31: I know you're just coming off winning a super Bowl
- 1:48:46Speaker 31: your first Uh during that ride, what what did you
- 1:48:52Speaker 31: learn about what it takes to win.
- 1:48:54Speaker 5: A Super Bowl? Resilience?
- 1:48:59Speaker 16: Uh?
- 1:49:00Speaker 5: Togetherness? Uh well, coach coach sitanaus to say, uh, you
- 1:49:05Speaker 5: can't be great without the greatness of others and knowing
- 1:49:08Speaker 5: that this is a team game, it's not about any individual, uh,
- 1:49:14Speaker 5: and just being together as one, you know, like you
- 1:49:18Speaker 5: were saying, uh, like most were saying, just having their
- 1:49:20Speaker 5: brotherhood and building their bond you know, off the field.
- 1:49:24Speaker 5: I feel like they carries on onto the field and no,
- 1:49:28Speaker 5: you go out there and you play f play for
- 1:49:30Speaker 5: one another even harder once you you know, get to
- 1:49:32Speaker 5: know 'em and get to know their families and why
- 1:49:35Speaker 5: they do what they do. So Uh yeah, I learned.
- 1:49:38Speaker 5: I l learned that a lot in Philadelphia, Uh from
- 1:49:43Speaker 5: coaches players. Uh yeah, obviously they been in a being
- 1:49:47Speaker 5: being a wig, a winning organization, So coming over here
- 1:49:50Speaker 5: is probably gonna just gonna be the same thing. Thanks
- 1:49:54Speaker 5: pretty much, appreciate it.
- 1:49:57Speaker 23: We'll bring uh the seven of you up here for
- 1:50:00Speaker 23: photo op Evan if you can have your crew kind
- 1:50:02Speaker 23: of help with the podium.
- 1:50:05Speaker 4: All right, are we back?
- 1:50:08Speaker 6: We are back here on in studio. It's Paul, it's
- 1:50:11Speaker 6: alex Evan, and Duce will be coming back. Perhaps we'll
- 1:50:15Speaker 6: have a guest stop in at some point, but let's go.
- 1:50:19Speaker 5: Can I put it?
- 1:50:20Speaker 6: Let's go?
- 1:50:20Speaker 4: Can I put a request in for the guest?
- 1:50:22Speaker 12: Yeah?
- 1:50:22Speaker 6: Go ahead.
- 1:50:23Speaker 4: Can we get Morgan Moses? Because I think I might
- 1:50:25Speaker 4: need a new life coach.
- 1:50:27Speaker 6: Elliott, if you're listening to me or our crack pr staff,
- 1:50:31Speaker 6: we're requesting Morgan Moses.
- 1:50:33Speaker 4: He was I told you on Tuesday he was my
- 1:50:35Speaker 4: favorite signing. No doubling down on.
- 1:50:37Speaker 6: I have some questions for him.
- 1:50:39Speaker 4: He's my favorite signing and man is he impressive to
- 1:50:42Speaker 4: listen to?
- 1:50:43Speaker 6: Yeah, wisdom, he's great. And what I want to now
- 1:50:46Speaker 6: if you just want to yeah, I know that. So
- 1:50:49Speaker 6: we can see that in the background.
- 1:50:51Speaker 4: So those of you putting numbers down Milton Williams ninety seven, what.
- 1:50:56Speaker 6: Are they going to do?
- 1:50:57Speaker 4: Robert fourteen.
- 1:51:00Speaker 6: Oh, well, they're not gonna have the cap space next
- 1:51:03Speaker 6: year that they have this year.
- 1:51:05Speaker 4: I know that's sort of stuff that we talk about
- 1:51:08Speaker 4: maybe off air.
- 1:51:09Speaker 6: I'm just being funny anyway, funny anyway. No, but I
- 1:51:14Speaker 6: this was a good crew that they brought up there.
- 1:51:17Speaker 6: I mean, listen, I don't know these guys personally, but
- 1:51:24Speaker 6: what people are saying about them in this first impression,
- 1:51:26Speaker 6: they seem like character guys and great additions to the
- 1:51:30Speaker 6: locker room. And don't underestimate that. With a new head
- 1:51:34Speaker 6: coach here trying to, you know, reverse what's happened over
- 1:51:39Speaker 6: the last four or five years, that's not an easy
- 1:51:41Speaker 6: job if you don't have guys who you could trust
- 1:51:44Speaker 6: in the locker room to carry your message and to
- 1:51:47Speaker 6: set the tone. And you know, you mentioned Morgan Moses
- 1:51:50Speaker 6: number one. I think he comes in. He's obviously the
- 1:51:55Speaker 6: elder statesman on the line, he's thirty four years old.
- 1:51:58Speaker 6: But I think also in terms of just knowledge of
- 1:52:00Speaker 6: the craft character, I think I'm hoping in one of
- 1:52:05Speaker 6: the things I would ask him, if he's here, are
- 1:52:07Speaker 6: you ready to accept that role? Are you ready to
- 1:52:10Speaker 6: come in here?
- 1:52:10Speaker 4: He seems like a guy who's going to take ownership.
- 1:52:12Speaker 5: Of that room.
- 1:52:13Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, yeah, because we need that. We need that.
- 1:52:18Speaker 6: So I'm excited about him. I'm excited about all of them.
- 1:52:20Speaker 4: Frankly, listening to him and this is this is what
- 1:52:23Speaker 4: his profile said, which is why I was so high
- 1:52:26Speaker 4: on the signing in the first place. But listening to
- 1:52:28Speaker 4: him makes me a little bit less anxious about the
- 1:52:31Speaker 4: departure of David Andrews, because what I was worried about
- 1:52:34Speaker 4: was exactly that. And again, you're right, we just met
- 1:52:38Speaker 4: these guys, you know, just first impressions. I would say
- 1:52:41Speaker 4: that based on how he sounded, he's a guy that's
- 1:52:44Speaker 4: not afraid to lead, not afraid to you know, talk
- 1:52:48Speaker 4: about the importance of being the five guys as one
- 1:52:51Speaker 4: and all those things that Dante preached for years and years.
- 1:52:54Speaker 5: Here.
- 1:52:55Speaker 4: Very impressive to listen to me.
- 1:52:57Speaker 10: I really like the stoicness about him too, you know,
- 1:53:00Speaker 10: like it just like I said, it seems like he
- 1:53:02Speaker 10: has a lot of wisdom. He's been around, he's been
- 1:53:04Speaker 10: in this league a long time, a lot of experience.
- 1:53:06Speaker 10: It's going to be great.
- 1:53:07Speaker 6: No, and you talked to Alex earlier about you know,
- 1:53:10Speaker 6: Andrew's participation in the community. Sounds like every one of
- 1:53:14Speaker 6: these guys are going to be out there. Yeah, you
- 1:53:16Speaker 6: know you'll be running into a lot of these guys
- 1:53:19Speaker 6: at different events. We can only hope, right, I mean
- 1:53:22Speaker 6: Bobby Splaine, I think Bobby, you know, he seems like
- 1:53:26Speaker 6: he's ready to do it today.
- 1:53:28Speaker 10: He looks like a company guy.
- 1:53:29Speaker 4: The polo.
- 1:53:30Speaker 6: You see all these.
- 1:53:31Speaker 4: Guys guys come up and they they look like the
- 1:53:34Speaker 4: guy who organized it for the team.
- 1:53:36Speaker 6: Right, It's like, why did the guy for food and
- 1:53:38Speaker 6: beverage get up?
- 1:53:39Speaker 14: Lunch?
- 1:53:40Speaker 6: Pale guy, but you could you could tell he's a
- 1:53:43Speaker 6: heart I'm tired up.
- 1:53:45Speaker 4: Yeah, I told you, Like, this is the kind of
- 1:53:48Speaker 4: guy that I've been talking about for a long time now.
- 1:53:50Speaker 4: I don't know if Robert Splaine is going to be
- 1:53:52Speaker 4: the guy, but I like the profile of these these
- 1:53:56Speaker 4: like smaller, more athletic, lighter linebackers that can make plays
- 1:54:01Speaker 4: in both the run game and pass game. We'll see
- 1:54:04Speaker 4: if he does it with the Patriots. But that's I
- 1:54:07Speaker 4: just think the way that the league is sort of
- 1:54:08Speaker 4: trended over the last ten years or so is you know,
- 1:54:11Speaker 4: these big run stuffing you know, plug the a gap
- 1:54:15Speaker 4: hit the full back and you know Ted Johnson types. Yeah,
- 1:54:18Speaker 4: kind of like a thing of yestery.
- 1:54:21Speaker 6: And really competitive, you know, a lot of fire works,
- 1:54:24Speaker 6: hard to get everything that he has. There's a guy,
- 1:54:27Speaker 6: the guy in the Cavaliers.
- 1:54:30Speaker 5: I love him.
- 1:54:31Speaker 4: Who's the guy the best best player, Donovan Mitchell.
- 1:54:34Speaker 6: Mitchell like he is such a competitor. He like I
- 1:54:37Speaker 6: see like during breaks he's firing up his teammates. I
- 1:54:41Speaker 6: see Splaine like that type of guy, like in a
- 1:54:44Speaker 6: good way. Yeah, not like an Aaron Rodgers way, Like
- 1:54:48Speaker 6: in a good way, like you know, positively let's go,
- 1:54:52Speaker 6: you know, like always in their face, like giving words
- 1:54:55Speaker 6: of encouragement, getting people, making sure people are into the
- 1:54:58Speaker 6: game as much as he is. I see him as
- 1:55:00Speaker 6: a real positive force on that defense. So this is great,
- 1:55:05Speaker 6: good stuff. You know, when we had Landry yesterday, you know,
- 1:55:10Speaker 6: he left town, he had to go. But some really
- 1:55:13Speaker 6: good signings, uh you and yes, I know, you know,
- 1:55:16Speaker 6: I've seen the emails a lot of people. They didn't
- 1:55:19Speaker 6: get the left tackle, they didn't get the wide receiver.
- 1:55:21Speaker 6: Yet there's a long way to go. As Rabel said,
- 1:55:24Speaker 6: and he quoted Alonzo high Smith, Uh, there's gonna be
- 1:55:30Speaker 6: people who will become available, and then you're gonna have
- 1:55:32Speaker 6: to fight to get them because if there are any,
- 1:55:35Speaker 6: if they're good, they have a big market, like Cooper
- 1:55:38Speaker 6: Cup has a lot of people will be going after them,
- 1:55:41Speaker 6: not just the Patriots. He didn't, he didn't, no reaction,
- 1:55:44Speaker 6: He's no, he's he's engrossed in his texting.
- 1:55:47Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I would just say, like, yeah, there
- 1:55:51Speaker 4: are gonna be more players available. I agree with Alonzo
- 1:55:54Speaker 4: high Smith. I disagree that you're likely to get a
- 1:55:58Speaker 4: player who just becomes available who is an impact player
- 1:56:01Speaker 4: unless it's a trade for someone right, you know, big time, yep,
- 1:56:06Speaker 4: that something happens, like like I used as an example,
- 1:56:09Speaker 4: AJ Brown, that would be an impact guy. Generally at
- 1:56:12Speaker 4: this time, you're gonna get sort of the leftovers in
- 1:56:17Speaker 4: the transactions, which is okay. And I would also say,
- 1:56:20Speaker 4: and this has sort of been bugging me a little
- 1:56:22Speaker 4: bit since Monday, when they made all these moves, like
- 1:56:25Speaker 4: the whole where's the left tackle, where's the wide receiver?
- 1:56:28Speaker 4: Like the Patriots had upwards of twelve to fifteen significant
- 1:56:34Speaker 4: needs on the roster, Like is it really realistic that
- 1:56:38Speaker 4: you fill every single one of them in here? One
- 1:56:40Speaker 4: that's like fans will not be satisfied unless every single
- 1:56:44Speaker 4: player is rative.
- 1:56:46Speaker 6: Well, that's great, but what about but what about?
- 1:56:48Speaker 12: But what about?
- 1:56:49Speaker 4: And listen, I'm not telling you that this was an
- 1:56:51Speaker 4: A plus free agent class. I don't think it is.
- 1:56:53Speaker 4: I would say like a like a C plus B minus.
- 1:56:56Speaker 4: But they did a lot of good things on Monday,
- 1:57:00Speaker 4: and I think that they've gone from a bad team
- 1:57:03Speaker 4: to a potentially average one. Yeah, that's a huge jump.
- 1:57:07Speaker 6: I give it a B plus because I'm also fatter.
- 1:57:10Speaker 4: I'm fine.
- 1:57:10Speaker 6: I'm also factoring in again the locker room stuff. I
- 1:57:13Speaker 6: think it's important this first year, like we've got to
- 1:57:16Speaker 6: flip the culture. You know, we've we've got to We've
- 1:57:19Speaker 6: got to get this locker room to grow up. And
- 1:57:22Speaker 6: I think this is a step to having a grown
- 1:57:24Speaker 6: up locker room. I love you came from it.
- 1:57:27Speaker 5: I was there.
- 1:57:27Speaker 6: What do you say.
- 1:57:29Speaker 5: I love what you were just saying. I'm seeing that's uh.
- 1:57:31Speaker 8: I wasn't trying not to be seen. I was staying
- 1:57:33Speaker 8: in the back. I think Evan's still up there trying
- 1:57:34Speaker 8: to be seen. But no, I love you, just said
- 1:57:37Speaker 8: fred I walked in on that. It's just, you know,
- 1:57:39Speaker 8: Moses to me.
- 1:57:41Speaker 4: We were all talking, ay wave, I've already taken my
- 1:57:43Speaker 4: really all right?
- 1:57:44Speaker 34: Cool?
- 1:57:44Speaker 9: Well, now see this is what I kind of like.
- 1:57:45Speaker 8: This is sometimes on the post game show, Paul and
- 1:57:47Speaker 8: I will watch the game in different locations, usually the
- 1:57:49Speaker 8: pregame or in the preseason. But you know, you guys
- 1:57:51Speaker 8: have reactions and you know, and then separate and you
- 1:57:53Speaker 8: bring them together. But I just impressed with Moses. I thought,
- 1:57:57Speaker 8: this is what this team needs, this kind of steadiness,
- 1:58:00Speaker 8: and you know his talk about brotherhood, and you know,
- 1:58:02Speaker 8: I thought they were all in mind with what Rabel's
- 1:58:04Speaker 8: message has been preaching about getting to know each other
- 1:58:07Speaker 8: as people and you know, valuing their families and you know,
- 1:58:10Speaker 8: getting to know those people who are all with them
- 1:58:12Speaker 8: and had their own you know, separate section that they
- 1:58:14Speaker 8: were all sitting in as well. Carlton Davis a little quiet,
- 1:58:19Speaker 8: little cool, uh, you know, kind of cornerback vibe to me,
- 1:58:22Speaker 8: you know, short memory. Robert s Plain seemed a little nervous,
- 1:58:25Speaker 8: but you can tell that little psychotic No, he's got it.
- 1:58:28Speaker 8: He's got to hold it back because you can tell
- 1:58:29Speaker 8: he's about he'd like I'll hit somebody.
- 1:58:31Speaker 4: Right, He's ready to go.
- 1:58:32Speaker 5: He's ready to go.
- 1:58:34Speaker 4: People have described him as he plays with his hair
- 1:58:36Speaker 4: on fire.
- 1:58:36Speaker 8: Evidently he was just like, I know, he's like, I'm
- 1:58:39Speaker 8: trying to keep it calm right now.
- 1:58:40Speaker 12: Uh.
- 1:58:41Speaker 8: And my last thought with Milton Williams is like, we
- 1:58:43Speaker 8: got a dog to go hunt some quarterbacks now that
- 1:58:45Speaker 8: he seemed like a serious dude.
- 1:58:47Speaker 9: Uh, he's he doesn't, you know, seem to be resting
- 1:58:50Speaker 9: on any laurels.
- 1:58:51Speaker 6: Yeah, those two guys bring them out serious.
- 1:58:53Speaker 20: Uh.
- 1:58:54Speaker 8: And I mean i'd say kind of with all of them,
- 1:58:56Speaker 8: but especially Moses and Milton Williams. If you're a fan
- 1:58:59Speaker 8: of defense, this is the kind of personality that you
- 1:59:02Speaker 8: want from these kind of guys to come out.
- 1:59:04Speaker 9: And so it's it's it's good, you know, it's just
- 1:59:06Speaker 9: these these it happens every spring.
- 1:59:08Speaker 8: This is very re energizing and you get these new
- 1:59:10Speaker 8: personalities onto the team and you know you have such
- 1:59:13Speaker 8: high hopes for them and of what they can be.
- 1:59:15Speaker 8: But at the moment, I think they're all hitting the
- 1:59:17Speaker 8: right tone of what this team needs right now as
- 1:59:20Speaker 8: far as what they're going to bring. And I thought
- 1:59:21Speaker 8: that was you know, consistent message, whether it was Robert
- 1:59:24Speaker 8: up there, Elliott Vrabel. They all kind of were saying
- 1:59:26Speaker 8: the same thing.
- 1:59:27Speaker 9: So yeah, it was it was good.
- 1:59:28Speaker 5: It was good.
- 1:59:28Speaker 6: Yep, Bill in San Diego wants to be the wet rag.
- 1:59:32Speaker 6: Did anyone else get the same? I didn't choose New England,
- 1:59:35Speaker 6: they chose me. Vibe from both Davis and Williams didn't
- 1:59:38Speaker 6: sound like either really wanted to be here, and if
- 1:59:41Speaker 6: another offer had been equal, were better, they'd have signed elsewhere.
- 1:59:45Speaker 4: So with Williams, he did specifically say something to the
- 1:59:48Speaker 4: effect of the Patriots wanted me the most.
- 1:59:50Speaker 23: Yep.
- 1:59:51Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 1:59:51Speaker 4: Now, if you want to take that as a negative,
- 1:59:54Speaker 4: I guess I'm not here to tell you how you
- 1:59:56Speaker 4: should feel.
- 1:59:57Speaker 5: I don't.
- 1:59:58Speaker 4: I didn't take that as a negative. I didn't, you know,
- 2:00:00Speaker 4: like I felt like the Patriots identified someone.
- 2:00:02Speaker 6: You're more appreciative to the team that wants to But.
- 2:00:05Speaker 4: I felt like the Patriots identified someone who was the
- 2:00:07Speaker 4: most attractive. You know, let's call him one of the
- 2:00:10Speaker 4: three most attractive candidates and free agency right that was
- 2:00:13Speaker 4: out there. The Patriots identified him and then went after him.
- 2:00:16Speaker 4: They wanted them, They didn't middle it. They didn't do
- 2:00:19Speaker 4: the red Sox thing where they expressed interest and become
- 2:00:21Speaker 4: the Interest Kings. They went after a guy that they
- 2:00:24Speaker 4: wanted it, and they made sure they got them because
- 2:00:26Speaker 4: they wanted them the most.
- 2:00:28Speaker 10: Makes so much money that like, at the end of
- 2:00:31Speaker 10: the day, like unless an offer is far and a wide,
- 2:00:34Speaker 10: like way way, way more than they're going to get
- 2:00:37Speaker 10: anyone else. Like, is the money that big of a
- 2:00:41Speaker 10: detail if you hate a play so much, Yeah.
- 2:00:44Speaker 4: I guess I'll go. I don't know about the hate part.
- 2:00:47Speaker 4: I do think that the Patriots offered him far and
- 2:00:49Speaker 4: away the most money, because I think that's a reason
- 2:00:52Speaker 4: why he almost or was linked to Carolina, Right, I
- 2:00:55Speaker 4: think the Patriots swooped in and blew them away. But
- 2:00:58Speaker 4: that doesn't mean it's.
- 2:00:59Speaker 5: Bad no matter what.
- 2:01:00Speaker 10: Like they're getting generational wealth right wherever they.
- 2:01:04Speaker 6: You know, after listening this is Joel and san Antonio
- 2:01:10Speaker 6: after listening to the new guys talk and agreeing that
- 2:01:13Speaker 6: they are high character guys. Where were these high character
- 2:01:16Speaker 6: guys last year when Mayo was building his team? Is
- 2:01:19Speaker 6: this another failure by him? Okay, so it's a it's
- 2:01:21Speaker 6: a fair question. And I think Vrabel, well, I don't
- 2:01:24Speaker 6: know if he addressed her, but it's been like they
- 2:01:26Speaker 6: didn't have the network that Vrabel has in Terrell Williams.
- 2:01:31Speaker 4: And they chose to do it in a different way.
- 2:01:33Speaker 6: Right, they don't, but they didn't have They.
- 2:01:34Speaker 4: Wanted their their culture, their character. They wanted to say,
- 2:01:39Speaker 4: it's going to be all the guys that are here,
- 2:01:40Speaker 4: and they decided to re up them, all right. They
- 2:01:43Speaker 4: went with what they knew when they felt like they
- 2:01:45Speaker 4: could rely on. I just don't think I think it's
- 2:01:48Speaker 4: very easy to use the words character and uh, you know,
- 2:01:52Speaker 4: culture and that stuff. Do you think Dan Campbell has
- 2:01:56Speaker 4: established a great culture in Detroit?
- 2:01:58Speaker 5: Yes?
- 2:01:59Speaker 4: What do you think the Patriots record last year? And
- 2:02:01Speaker 4: if Dan Campbell was the head coach would have been
- 2:02:03Speaker 4: home that first year last year? Okay, I would have
- 2:02:07Speaker 4: said four and thirteen. Okay, Culture in character and all
- 2:02:12Speaker 4: that is very important, but it doesn't mean anything if
- 2:02:15Speaker 4: you don't have any ability. So they identified a bunch
- 2:02:18Speaker 4: of guys last year that they thought would be their
- 2:02:20Speaker 4: character guys. I think some of them are a little
- 2:02:22Speaker 4: past their primes. Some of them, quite frankly, didn't live
- 2:02:25Speaker 4: up to it. And I would say, like a guy
- 2:02:26Speaker 4: like Kyle Dugger had a rough year. I don't know
- 2:02:28Speaker 4: if it was injury related or not. He didn't play
- 2:02:31Speaker 4: as well as they sort of hoped he would. Right
- 2:02:34Speaker 4: those kinds of plays in and around. They didn't attack
- 2:02:37Speaker 4: free agency like this. They the Patriots right now went
- 2:02:42Speaker 4: out and got as Fred said on Tuesday, five starters
- 2:02:46Speaker 4: and free agency. The Patriots didn't attack free agency last
- 2:02:50Speaker 4: year like that. They chose to read up a lot
- 2:02:52Speaker 4: of what they had. Two totally different philosophies, but I
- 2:02:55Speaker 4: think they both wanted character in you know, in culture.
- 2:02:58Speaker 6: But do you think the reason why last year they
- 2:03:00Speaker 6: did it the way they did it because they couldn't
- 2:03:02Speaker 6: do it this way? Rabel said, I don't see free
- 2:03:06Speaker 6: agency unless you have that familiarity with guys.
- 2:03:09Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they could have if they wanted to.
- 2:03:11Speaker 4: They chose not to. H that's my choice.
- 2:03:14Speaker 15: Now.
- 2:03:14Speaker 4: I know that Elliott is sort of thrown some shade
- 2:03:17Speaker 4: on that from last year, saying, like, you know, we
- 2:03:20Speaker 4: didn't get great intel or something along those lines at
- 2:03:22Speaker 4: the combine when he spoke with you guys, Mike, you know,
- 2:03:27Speaker 4: I think they could have done I think they chose
- 2:03:29Speaker 4: not to. Now, maybe they chose not to because of
- 2:03:31Speaker 4: what Fred said. They just didn't have enough knowledge on
- 2:03:33Speaker 4: those guys to invest big money. But I mean I
- 2:03:36Speaker 4: think they tried to. I think they tried to get
- 2:03:38Speaker 4: Calvin Ridley. I think they tried to explore a trade
- 2:03:41Speaker 4: for Brandon Ayuk. I think they tried to get Christian Wilkins.
- 2:03:45Speaker 4: They didn't. They weren't able to put him in. These
- 2:03:47Speaker 4: guys were able to bring him in.
- 2:03:48Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 2:03:49Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the connection to Brabel too seems like
- 2:03:51Speaker 8: it carried some weight. I mean, that was what Morgan
- 2:03:53Speaker 8: Moses said about immediately pointing out, this guy's ready to
- 2:03:56Speaker 8: come out, put the pads on and mix it up
- 2:03:58Speaker 8: with us.
- 2:03:58Speaker 9: The same thing with Spilene. I mean, I didn't know
- 2:04:00Speaker 9: he was gonna cry or like just run through a
- 2:04:02Speaker 9: wall at that moment.
- 2:04:03Speaker 4: But you could tell how great said when he was done.
- 2:04:05Speaker 4: It was like Disney movie vibes on that one.
- 2:04:08Speaker 9: Right right, I'm just gonna pour my heart in the city.
- 2:04:10Speaker 4: I'm gonna call my mother or a mother's day and
- 2:04:12Speaker 4: tell I got a job.
- 2:04:13Speaker 3: Now it's his mother's now it was his mother's birthday.
- 2:04:15Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's it is. It's a great story.
- 2:04:17Speaker 8: And you know, these guys just are all and it's
- 2:04:20Speaker 8: hard to say because a lot of players can come up.
- 2:04:22Speaker 4: I thought it was awesome. You know me, I'm like
- 2:04:25Speaker 4: a cynical not a hater, but I'm cynical.
- 2:04:27Speaker 8: Yeah, but they all seem they all come off like
- 2:04:29Speaker 8: what they are, which is NFL veterans who played football.
- 2:04:33Speaker 8: Two of the guys have won championships. You heard Morgan
- 2:04:35Speaker 8: Moses rattle off all the different tackles that he's played
- 2:04:39Speaker 8: with over the course of his career. That are all,
- 2:04:41Speaker 8: you know, Hall of Fame type players. So I just
- 2:04:43Speaker 8: think that experience that and that's what has to come in.
- 2:04:46Speaker 6: It's it's a weird spot to be in.
- 2:04:47Speaker 8: You're so used to having all the guys who won
- 2:04:49Speaker 8: the Super Bowls already here, and now we're talking about
- 2:04:51Speaker 8: you know, we got two guys coming in or just
- 2:04:53Speaker 8: have won.
- 2:04:54Speaker 9: Super Bowls recently.
- 2:04:55Speaker 8: You know, It's it's a little bit of a different
- 2:04:56Speaker 8: position to be in, but it's a good one. And
- 2:04:58Speaker 8: I think it's yeah, they need I want to go
- 2:05:00Speaker 8: back to something Paul said, and I agree. You know,
- 2:05:03Speaker 8: character without talent isn't gonna get you much.
- 2:05:05Speaker 6: Sure you're not gonna you know, but I will also
- 2:05:08Speaker 6: say that you can have a lock of a room
- 2:05:10Speaker 6: full of talented guys, and if they're bad character guys,
- 2:05:12Speaker 6: that place can go south.
- 2:05:13Speaker 4: You're not going to be as good as you should be.
- 2:05:15Speaker 4: I can underachieve. I would agree with that as well, Fred, Yeah,
- 2:05:18Speaker 4: you need both.
- 2:05:19Speaker 6: You need both. And I think last year not that
- 2:05:22Speaker 6: they were bad character guys, but they were. There was
- 2:05:25Speaker 6: a lot of immaturity, I think, and not a lot
- 2:05:28Speaker 6: of leadership.
- 2:05:29Speaker 4: I think a lot of those guys were good character guys.
- 2:05:31Speaker 4: They weren't good enough players, right. It's kind of my point, like,
- 2:05:34Speaker 4: I don't think that Jonathan Jones is a bad character
- 2:05:36Speaker 4: guy or David Andrews or Dietrich Wise. They just were
- 2:05:39Speaker 4: good enough at this stage of their career.
- 2:05:42Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I think you got the sense with that
- 2:05:44Speaker 8: team though, is that never did they reach a point
- 2:05:46Speaker 8: where they were all pulling together. It was a lot
- 2:05:48Speaker 8: of different factions pulling in different directions. And maybe some
- 2:05:51Speaker 8: groups were tight, but other groups didn't seem tight. And
- 2:05:54Speaker 8: you know, I think that's a challenge of the coaching
- 2:05:56Speaker 8: staff to bring those guys together and all and all
- 2:05:58Speaker 8: get them to work together.
- 2:05:59Speaker 9: And that's a lot of what you heard today up
- 2:06:01Speaker 9: there from them.
- 2:06:02Speaker 4: Yep, good stuff.
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- 2:06:58Speaker 17: That's my own Taboine tied it all together there.
- 2:07:00Speaker 10: And on that note, I'm studio you guys have. And
- 2:07:03Speaker 10: if you get Morgan Moses, ask him who makes his song,
- 2:07:06Speaker 10: who makes his glass?
- 2:07:07Speaker 6: What you're wearing.
- 2:07:09Speaker 8: He's got a presence about him. Man, He's a he's
- 2:07:11Speaker 8: a big dude. That's exactly what you want. I think
- 2:07:13Speaker 8: from a right tackle. You know, that's just right there.
- 2:07:17Speaker 8: Excited to have him in the room though, especially coming
- 2:07:20Speaker 8: right on the heels of losing losing David Andrews, to
- 2:07:22Speaker 8: have just a guy who has that kind of presence
- 2:07:25Speaker 8: and you know, you can tell hopefully those young kids
- 2:07:27Speaker 8: in that room, which we talked about at the beginning
- 2:07:29Speaker 8: of the show, can we just get one.
- 2:07:31Speaker 9: Of those guys to emerge as a starter this year?
- 2:07:33Speaker 8: And I think that's the kind of guy you want
- 2:07:35Speaker 8: to have in your locker room to provide that leadership,
- 2:07:37Speaker 8: just like it was provided to him by guys like
- 2:07:39Speaker 8: Tyron Smith last year.
- 2:07:40Speaker 6: Mark and Quebec writes and Paul and I were arguing
- 2:07:43Speaker 6: about Cooper Cup. He said, DeAndre.
- 2:07:45Speaker 4: Hopkins, well, not really arguing. It's one of those things.
- 2:07:49Speaker 6: DeAndre Hopkins just signed a one year deal in Baltimore
- 2:07:52Speaker 6: for five million. Hollywood Brown re up with Casey for
- 2:07:55Speaker 6: six point eight five million on a one year deal.
- 2:07:57Speaker 4: I think Cup gang neither one of them were highway
- 2:07:59Speaker 4: saw it after. I would agree with you.
- 2:08:01Speaker 6: I think Cup getting ten million, as Fred suggested, would
- 2:08:03Speaker 6: be pretty decent value for both him and whichever team
- 2:08:06Speaker 6: signs him. With the unknowns around his health in production.
- 2:08:08Speaker 6: Any of these three receivers would be our top receiver
- 2:08:11Speaker 6: next year with the current roster and help may grow
- 2:08:15Speaker 6: rather than have another year with a well below average receiving.
- 2:08:18Speaker 4: So that's two different things. I agree with the second
- 2:08:20Speaker 4: part of that, Cooper Cup would be their best receiver. Yeah,
- 2:08:24Speaker 4: because you don't have any receivers.
- 2:08:26Speaker 5: That's true.
- 2:08:27Speaker 4: He would be their best. You have receivers, but you
- 2:08:29Speaker 4: don't have any real ones. Yeah.
- 2:08:31Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I'd be fine with Cooper Cup. I'm
- 2:08:33Speaker 8: not pounding the tape you having to have him, but
- 2:08:35Speaker 8: I would connect it to what I just said about
- 2:08:37Speaker 8: Morgan Moses. I feel like, here's a guy who knows
- 2:08:40Speaker 8: what it takes in that wide receiver room and somebody
- 2:08:43Speaker 8: who's going to work his butt off and set the
- 2:08:45Speaker 8: tone in it. Does he still have the same ability
- 2:08:47Speaker 8: that he maybe had a few years ago. Maybe not,
- 2:08:49Speaker 8: but I think that's worth a lot, and I'd still
- 2:08:52Speaker 8: be happy to take a flyer on.
- 2:08:53Speaker 6: I've got a couple callers here on the hotline. They've
- 2:08:56Speaker 6: been holding on for the entirety of this show, so
- 2:08:58Speaker 6: I don't know if they're going to be here, but
- 2:09:00Speaker 6: will take a shot Danny's and Daytona. What's up Danny?
- 2:09:05Speaker 6: Can you guys hear we can and you you win
- 2:09:08Speaker 6: the award for the person who's hung on the longest ever.
- 2:09:11Speaker 4: Ever two hours about Toshaun?
- 2:09:13Speaker 6: What's up, Danny?
- 2:09:14Speaker 35: Yeah, what's going on?
- 2:09:16Speaker 36: Guys?
- 2:09:16Speaker 35: I didn't mind waiting a couple of hours, so I
- 2:09:18Speaker 35: just got a couple of things to talk.
- 2:09:20Speaker 34: To you guys about.
- 2:09:22Speaker 35: Yeah, I would say, like Paul was saying earlier, I
- 2:09:25Speaker 35: give the draft a B minus on the draft or
- 2:09:28Speaker 35: not the draft, excuse me? The free agency B minus
- 2:09:33Speaker 35: on that the picks for decent. I Uh, there's a
- 2:09:36Speaker 35: lot of people talking about how they think it was
- 2:09:39Speaker 35: a bad free agency because they didn't get offensive players.
- 2:09:42Speaker 13: You know.
- 2:09:42Speaker 35: The draft still coming up, as everyone has stated, and
- 2:09:46Speaker 35: and uh what they said, and then the press covers.
- 2:09:49Speaker 35: I think they'll find a left tackle and a receiver.
- 2:09:53Speaker 35: I'll be happy when they do that. One other thing
- 2:09:56Speaker 35: I'd like to add, I'm happy they didn't get the
- 2:09:59Speaker 35: fun they Adam and all these other players that people
- 2:10:02Speaker 35: were talking about they wanted.
- 2:10:04Speaker 15: I do'm not.
- 2:10:04Speaker 35: I know, Paul, you're interested in the Cooper Cup. I
- 2:10:07Speaker 35: like him as a veteran, but I really don't want
- 2:10:10Speaker 35: to kick these tires on these old players. I like
- 2:10:12Speaker 35: that they're trying to get young and they're trying to
- 2:10:16Speaker 35: bring in some experienced guys to to kind of help
- 2:10:19Speaker 35: the teams. I think that's great.
- 2:10:20Speaker 37: I do like how they're doing this little.
- 2:10:22Speaker 35: Format of bring these players and introducing them. I think
- 2:10:25Speaker 35: that's cool. But that's that's basically all my take, and
- 2:10:29Speaker 35: I'll take it off there.
- 2:10:30Speaker 6: Okay, thanks Danny. Listen to be clear, if they get
- 2:10:33Speaker 6: Cooper Cup, they're not done.
- 2:10:34Speaker 13: I hope.
- 2:10:35Speaker 6: I mean, he's not the answer.
- 2:10:36Speaker 4: I just think for now they probably are. But yes,
- 2:10:40Speaker 4: I agree with you. They're not going to say, like, well,
- 2:10:42Speaker 4: we have Cooper Cups, so we're all set. We're gonna
- 2:10:43Speaker 4: be super Bowl bound.
- 2:10:44Speaker 16: Right.
- 2:10:45Speaker 4: They're not gonna do that.
- 2:10:45Speaker 6: Right, Let's go to DeShawn and Virginia who held on
- 2:10:50Speaker 6: equally long. What's up to Sean?
- 2:10:54Speaker 12: All right?
- 2:10:56Speaker 10: Yes?
- 2:10:56Speaker 37: What do I want to stick on?
- 2:10:58Speaker 4: Far?
- 2:10:58Speaker 37: Like when it comes to the draft. One time I'm
- 2:11:00Speaker 37: really worried about it is that now all this mixed
- 2:11:02Speaker 37: up with the off line of stuff, I'm kind of
- 2:11:04Speaker 37: really worried about that they might have to say the
- 2:11:07Speaker 37: double dip in the first couple of rounds in order
- 2:11:10Speaker 37: to get quality guards and off line of such as
- 2:11:12Speaker 37: that left guard and left pack will because unless that
- 2:11:16Speaker 37: they have Dante Carnettia on feed dow Off somewhere in
- 2:11:19Speaker 37: the room, I don't we don't trust them to draft
- 2:11:22Speaker 37: the off the lineman later in these drafts. So when
- 2:11:26Speaker 37: it comes down to it, that's what I'm really worried about.
- 2:11:29Speaker 34: And the fact is they won't have me.
- 2:11:31Speaker 37: There won't be in a draftedy receivers I like talking
- 2:11:32Speaker 37: about if they do that. So that's what I'm worried about.
- 2:11:34Speaker 6: That's all this stuff, Okay, thanks to Sean.
- 2:11:38Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's just it goes back to
- 2:11:40Speaker 8: the same point of at some point you have to
- 2:11:42Speaker 8: find a way to develop those fourth, fifth, sixth round
- 2:11:45Speaker 8: guys that you know that's not always going to happen.
- 2:11:47Speaker 8: And I mean it's a lot of times those are flyers.
- 2:11:49Speaker 8: But that's how good teams happen. You know, guys who
- 2:11:52Speaker 8: were random six round picks all of a sudden developed
- 2:11:55Speaker 8: me Michael and wyn Us an example from a couple
- 2:11:56Speaker 8: of years ago.
- 2:11:57Speaker 4: You know, I was going to say offensive lineman. Yeah,
- 2:12:00Speaker 4: a lot of times you fill out your offensive line.
- 2:12:02Speaker 4: Now you might have a first round left tackle or so,
- 2:12:05Speaker 4: but Mike's right like that, a lot of times, the
- 2:12:08Speaker 4: good offensive lines include, you know, a first round pick,
- 2:12:10Speaker 4: a second round pick, but a couple of like late
- 2:12:12Speaker 4: round picks too. And when you was a perfect example
- 2:12:15Speaker 4: of he's been a really good player for them for
- 2:12:17Speaker 4: what five years now? Yeah, you know, not great, not
- 2:12:21Speaker 4: a Pro Bowl All Pro type player, but a very
- 2:12:25Speaker 4: solid starter on your offensive line for five.
- 2:12:27Speaker 9: Years and if you had five Michael winus thing.
- 2:12:32Speaker 6: Spian Fresno says, I like the intensity of some of
- 2:12:35Speaker 6: the new guys. Some have the edge, like key On
- 2:12:37Speaker 6: White seems to have, so maybe that'll help bring out
- 2:12:39Speaker 6: the best in him.
- 2:12:41Speaker 9: Yeah, Mel Williams, I just.
- 2:12:44Speaker 8: Like there's just so much uncertainty with Barmour right now,
- 2:12:46Speaker 8: and you know, like I just I never felt like
- 2:12:48Speaker 8: the last few years you could really hang your hat
- 2:12:50Speaker 8: on one of these defensive linemen that they've had up front.
- 2:12:53Speaker 8: It's been a little touch and go with a lot
- 2:12:55Speaker 8: of them. And I just hope that he's the start
- 2:12:57Speaker 8: of rebuilding a you know, a defensive front. Not that
- 2:13:00Speaker 8: they got to get back to Seymour, will Fork Warren
- 2:13:02Speaker 8: that you know, all three guys are you know, first
- 2:13:04Speaker 8: round picks, but it still just gives you something like
- 2:13:07Speaker 8: this guy is gonna set the tone.
- 2:13:08Speaker 9: He looks like man like. You know, I forget what
- 2:13:10Speaker 9: the question was exactly it was.
- 2:13:12Speaker 8: I think Phil Perry asked him, you know, how do
- 2:13:14Speaker 8: you how are you gonna deal with playing more snaps
- 2:13:16Speaker 8: now and hard work?
- 2:13:17Speaker 5: You know.
- 2:13:17Speaker 8: It's just he just seems like a serious, locked in dude,
- 2:13:21Speaker 8: and I think it shows on the field that that
- 2:13:23Speaker 8: he's an intense guy.
- 2:13:24Speaker 4: My guess is he's probably heard a ton of part
- 2:13:28Speaker 4: time player product of those around him comments, Yeah, and
- 2:13:33Speaker 4: he's gonna take them to heart, and that's going to
- 2:13:36Speaker 4: be his goal, Like that's sort of his focus.
- 2:13:38Speaker 9: He's going to make that a little bit.
- 2:13:39Speaker 4: We're gonna make a mad you know what I mean?
- 2:13:41Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, just a Evan texted me he's over in
- 2:13:44Speaker 8: KSP right now as they're talking with some of the guys,
- 2:13:46Speaker 8: but he said, hang on as long as we can,
- 2:13:48Speaker 8: cause stay.
- 2:13:48Speaker 6: He doesn't want to bring a guy by, so okay, Yeah,
- 2:13:52Speaker 6: he didn't.
- 2:13:52Speaker 5: Say who, So I don't know. We'll just see.
- 2:13:54Speaker 9: It's gonna be one of the.
- 2:13:55Speaker 6: Four jacket and Abba common theme jumps off the screen
- 2:13:58Speaker 6: from the free agent's character. They're bursting with character, especially Moses.
- 2:14:02Speaker 6: Moses Uzza's leadership, responsibility, dedication, and commitment very impressive.
- 2:14:07Speaker 9: Keep that quote handy in case he walks through that door.
- 2:14:11Speaker 6: A lot of people agree Jeremiah is one of them.
- 2:14:14Speaker 6: I agree with Paul and Morgan. Moses very well spoken
- 2:14:16Speaker 6: and a great understanding of what the team needs from
- 2:14:19Speaker 6: him as a player and a mentor. I would also
- 2:14:22Speaker 6: add Spelane was another high character guy at the podium. Okay,
- 2:14:28Speaker 6: yeah he was.
- 2:14:29Speaker 9: You know, it just comes off like exactly like he
- 2:14:31Speaker 9: does on film.
- 2:14:32Speaker 8: You know, You're just I'm like, does this guy want
- 2:14:34Speaker 8: to go down to the field right now and start
- 2:14:35Speaker 8: hitting sledgers on?
- 2:14:36Speaker 5: Then?
- 2:14:36Speaker 4: He seems ready to go.
- 2:14:38Speaker 6: David writes in It's been a while since I've sent
- 2:14:41Speaker 6: anything in. Well, good to see you back, David. I
- 2:14:43Speaker 6: think it would be a good idea to remind people
- 2:14:46Speaker 6: what a rebuild looks like that is working, and a
- 2:14:49Speaker 6: rebuild looks like that isn't working. Using examples from another sport,
- 2:14:53Speaker 6: which highlights positives from Boston and negatives from Buffalo, which
- 2:14:57Speaker 6: we all Fred especially hate, I don't know what that
- 2:14:59Speaker 6: means for another sport which highlights positives from Boston and
- 2:15:04Speaker 6: negatives from Buffalo, What does that mean? Do you know
- 2:15:08Speaker 6: what that means?
- 2:15:08Speaker 5: No idea?
- 2:15:10Speaker 6: Do you know what the other sport is?
- 2:15:12Speaker 4: Hockey? Maybe you're talking about the Sabers who have sort
- 2:15:14Speaker 4: of been mired at the bottom of the league for
- 2:15:16Speaker 4: a decade. I don't know. But again, we can talk
- 2:15:23Speaker 4: about all of this stuff. The key to getting out
- 2:15:27Speaker 4: of this is going to be what Mike preaches all
- 2:15:29Speaker 4: the time. Draft. Well, right, you need some players to
- 2:15:34Speaker 4: come in. You're not going to get elite free agents
- 2:15:39Speaker 4: every year, but you have the opportunity to get elite
- 2:15:42Speaker 4: draft picks every year. Now, it requires a lot of
- 2:15:45Speaker 4: luck because no one's perfect at the draft. It's really hard,
- 2:15:49Speaker 4: but that's how you get really good as you draft
- 2:15:52Speaker 4: young players who are great, and then you're able to
- 2:15:56Speaker 4: stack those on top of each other and then augment them.
- 2:16:00Speaker 4: You don't have to do seven signings on Monday, the
- 2:16:03Speaker 4: first day of free agency. Instead you augment them with
- 2:16:06Speaker 4: two to just plug in a couple of holes to
- 2:16:10Speaker 4: to make you a little bit better, a little bit
- 2:16:11Speaker 4: deeper in certain areas, put you over the top. That's
- 2:16:14Speaker 4: what you're striving for. Ye Mike has said this ad nauseum.
- 2:16:18Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 2:16:18Speaker 8: I mean, especially just with i'd say on the defensive
- 2:16:21Speaker 8: side of the ball, just being a good defensive front
- 2:16:23Speaker 8: seven class with a lot of defensive linemen. It's you know,
- 2:16:26Speaker 8: it's so much more appealing now thinking about plugging one
- 2:16:28Speaker 8: of those talented guys in with Milton Williams, you know,
- 2:16:31Speaker 8: with Carlton Davis on the back end, you know, with
- 2:16:34Speaker 8: Spalaine playing a little linebacker, you know, maybe next to Bentley.
- 2:16:37Speaker 9: So yeah, I think they've set the table pretty well.
- 2:16:40Speaker 9: But that's what the ceiling is gonna be.
- 2:16:41Speaker 16: You know.
- 2:16:41Speaker 4: And I'm a dork and I go back to the
- 2:16:44Speaker 4: you know when we first started Freddie, you know, so
- 2:16:47Speaker 4: like when you when they were first good. It's like,
- 2:16:50Speaker 4: we have this really good, young, all Pro caliber corner
- 2:16:53Speaker 4: in ty Law. So we're gonna go out, you know,
- 2:16:56Speaker 4: We're gonna sign a guy like Otis Smith to be
- 2:17:00Speaker 4: a stopgap, and later Tyrone Pool. But we're going to
- 2:17:02Speaker 4: draft Eugene Wilson and we're going to draft the Sante
- 2:17:05Speaker 4: Samuel with the idea of when they're ready. Ty Law
- 2:17:09Speaker 4: is probably going to be ready to go, and that's
- 2:17:12Speaker 4: exactly what happened. Ty Law was all Pro caliber, then
- 2:17:16Speaker 4: he wasn't. Then the Sante Samuel is sort of probe.
- 2:17:19Speaker 4: I won't call him all Pro caliber, but I'll call
- 2:17:21Speaker 4: him Pro Bowl caliber. And he's able to sort of
- 2:17:24Speaker 4: carry the baton for you so you can continue to
- 2:17:26Speaker 4: win and be good. And they played at a very
- 2:17:29Speaker 4: high level for a long time. That's what you're looking
- 2:17:32Speaker 4: for now. I could give you that example with like
- 2:17:36Speaker 4: you know, Ted Washington and Keith Trailer in the middle,
- 2:17:39Speaker 4: and then you draft Vince Wilfork and I could give
- 2:17:42Speaker 4: you a lot of those different Bobby Hamilton makes you know,
- 2:17:45Speaker 4: gives way to Ty Warren. That's how you do it.
- 2:17:49Speaker 4: And if you don't do the second part of it,
- 2:17:52Speaker 4: well you're going to be where Mike has lamented for
- 2:17:55Speaker 4: now the five years that we've.
- 2:17:57Speaker 8: We're just unraveled and you laid off all all of
- 2:18:00Speaker 8: the you know, the examples of the past Patriots team
- 2:18:02Speaker 8: where it was like that, it was you know, Matt
- 2:18:04Speaker 8: light leaves, you got Nate Soldier waiting in the wings,
- 2:18:06Speaker 8: you know, and at a certain point when you start
- 2:18:08Speaker 8: missing on this draft and then you got another bad draft,
- 2:18:10Speaker 8: and you you know you're starting to lose the guys
- 2:18:12Speaker 8: to cycle in. Now Joe Tooney he goes in free agency,
- 2:18:15Speaker 8: and now you don't have.
- 2:18:16Speaker 4: Like Nate Soldier leaves and you want to replace him
- 2:18:18Speaker 4: with Isaiah Winn. Doesn't work because you didn't get the
- 2:18:21Speaker 4: right guy. Now again, it's hard to get the right guy.
- 2:18:23Speaker 4: Every time. Fred will tell you. I'm on record, I
- 2:18:26Speaker 4: thought Bill Belichick was not just a good drafter, a
- 2:18:28Speaker 4: very a very good drafter, to which Andy still makes
- 2:18:31Speaker 4: fun of me about. But I'll stand by it. I
- 2:18:33Speaker 4: think for the vast majority of his twenty years he
- 2:18:35Speaker 4: did a very good job. At the end, he was
- 2:18:38Speaker 4: in a slump. Maybe he was on a heater early,
- 2:18:41Speaker 4: but you know he didn't He wasn't able to maintain it.
- 2:18:45Speaker 4: But that's how you have to do it. That's how
- 2:18:47Speaker 4: you maintain a high level of winning for a long
- 2:18:50Speaker 4: time and have Tom Brady Matt Yes, none of it
- 2:18:53Speaker 4: works without yes, without talent.
- 2:18:56Speaker 6: Matti the talent too. Matt's in Mississippi. Hey, Matt Hey,
- 2:19:00Speaker 6: how you guys.
- 2:19:01Speaker 34: Doing Matt Hey? I kind of got two questions, Uh,
- 2:19:06Speaker 34: one with the offensive line, what do you think cold
- 2:19:09Speaker 34: strange fits? And everything, and with the wide receivers, do
- 2:19:12Speaker 34: you think we should go get somebody like Stepie Diggs
- 2:19:15Speaker 34: or somebody to help on the house side for at
- 2:19:17Speaker 34: least a year. I know he had to add a
- 2:19:19Speaker 34: two problems and everything, but do you think he's kind
- 2:19:21Speaker 34: of like a last resort type got Yeah?
- 2:19:25Speaker 6: Yeah, so first cold Strange, where does he fit in? Uh?
- 2:19:29Speaker 6: And thanks for the call, Matt. I think now with
- 2:19:31Speaker 6: Andrew's going, I think they're gonna hope that he's your center, right.
- 2:19:34Speaker 8: I think so there's just a lot of influx. There's
- 2:19:36Speaker 8: a new offensive line coach, there's a new offensive coordinator.
- 2:19:39Speaker 8: We don't know exactly what the scheme is gonna look like.
- 2:19:40Speaker 8: You have some different options at the center position. I
- 2:19:43Speaker 8: really have no idea how they view no Strange.
- 2:19:45Speaker 4: I don't know either. He's going to have an opportunity
- 2:19:47Speaker 4: to earn a job. I don't know if that'll be
- 2:19:49Speaker 4: at guard or center, but I think he'll have an opportunity. Yeah,
- 2:19:52Speaker 4: in terms of wide receivers, I would absolutely you know,
- 2:19:55Speaker 4: if if there's.
- 2:19:56Speaker 6: Stuck with Stefan Digg's status right, well, he's off right,
- 2:20:01Speaker 6: but he's out there.
- 2:20:02Speaker 9: He's out there.
- 2:20:02Speaker 4: He's a free agent. Yes, yeah, yeah, I would take him,
- 2:20:06Speaker 4: but again, he's just stop DAP guys Cooper Cup, Stefan Diggs,
- 2:20:10Speaker 4: Brandon Cooks. There's guys that are available that are veterans,
- 2:20:13Speaker 4: but none of them that are going to move the
- 2:20:15Speaker 4: needle for you long term.
- 2:20:17Speaker 6: If Diggs is healthy, I think he moves the needle.
- 2:20:20Speaker 4: He doesn't.
- 2:20:22Speaker 9: Don't look at me, fred I don't like him.
- 2:20:24Speaker 4: He didn't move the needle in Houston.
- 2:20:25Speaker 6: Anyone that's not twenty five. He just doesn't like well.
- 2:20:29Speaker 4: Because they don't play like they were twenty five. That's like,
- 2:20:31Speaker 4: it's not the age that gets me, it's he's slowly down.
- 2:20:34Speaker 6: I think he's still pretty well.
- 2:20:36Speaker 17: Like one of those.
- 2:20:36Speaker 4: Collins was the guy that made it happen in Houston.
- 2:20:39Speaker 4: He's the second banana. They don't have the guy, but
- 2:20:42Speaker 4: that Digs can be second banana two. But I'll take
- 2:20:45Speaker 4: them because it's better than.
- 2:20:46Speaker 9: What you have.
- 2:20:48Speaker 6: Ryan's in Alabama. What's up, Ryan, how's it going good?
- 2:20:52Speaker 5: Right? Yeah?
- 2:20:54Speaker 36: Just to circle back on the draft, I really think
- 2:20:56Speaker 36: since we got Carlton Davis, now you've got the corner
- 2:20:58Speaker 36: back to Ryan.
- 2:20:59Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to put you on hold because we've
- 2:21:01Speaker 6: got a guest coming in, but I'm gonna put you
- 2:21:03Speaker 6: on hold and i'll get you when we come back.
- 2:21:09Speaker 4: Okay, all right, So we're gonna have Milton Williams shortly.
- 2:21:15Speaker 6: So that okay.
- 2:21:18Speaker 4: So Milton Williams about about twenty in about twenty minutes.
- 2:21:22Speaker 6: You can talk to him in here.
- 2:21:24Speaker 9: He's like he's trying to get private.
- 2:21:25Speaker 4: He's trying to get all his football questions because he
- 2:21:27Speaker 4: knows we're gonna roll our eyes definitely saying.
- 2:21:29Speaker 5: Three technique right now.
- 2:21:31Speaker 6: It's unbelievable. He's hijacked. He's hijacked our guest. We've got
- 2:21:34Speaker 6: the guests. Tell him to bring him in.
- 2:21:37Speaker 4: Oh my god, they can hear you Fain.
- 2:21:40Speaker 6: There's an extra seat for Evany. He doesn't have to
- 2:21:42Speaker 6: do the interview out there.
- 2:21:44Speaker 5: This is unbelievable.
- 2:21:45Speaker 9: Thought you were gonna make him stand in the corner again.
- 2:21:47Speaker 6: Well, Ryan, we could have finished.
- 2:21:48Speaker 4: We could have finished the call. Yeah, So we're gonna
- 2:21:50Speaker 4: have Milton Williams and then we're hoping to get Morgan
- 2:21:52Speaker 4: Moses shortly after that. So stick with us. We'll hear
- 2:21:57Speaker 4: from a couple of the the new free agent signings,
- 2:22:01Speaker 4: the new the new foundation, I think to what the
- 2:22:04Speaker 4: new looks are going to be.
- 2:22:05Speaker 17: Yeah, so right right here, nice to meet you, Paul, congratulations,
- 2:22:17Speaker 17: come on.
- 2:22:17Speaker 6: In all right, Evan, you could have talked to him here.
- 2:22:21Speaker 6: You didn't have to like conduct an interview out there.
- 2:22:24Speaker 3: Well, we walked, We walked and talked.
- 2:22:29Speaker 4: How long did it take you before you wanted to
- 2:22:31Speaker 4: beat him up? When technique inside shake?
- 2:22:36Speaker 6: Evan is our savant.
- 2:22:38Speaker 4: They did, there's a baller. Oh yeah, just ask him
- 2:22:43Speaker 4: a little.
- 2:22:44Speaker 3: We talked a little three techniques. We talked a little
- 2:22:46Speaker 3: bit about you know, the defense and Jeffrey Simmons and
- 2:22:50Speaker 3: you know, playing similar roles and things like that.
- 2:22:52Speaker 6: So you got to do it all right, this is
- 2:22:54Speaker 6: this is deuce. Otherwise, Mike do so, Frank kersh, Paul,
- 2:22:58Speaker 6: and you've met Evan.
- 2:22:59Speaker 5: So I appreciate you guys having me.
- 2:23:02Speaker 6: This is exciting.
- 2:23:03Speaker 4: Hot swag already see that.
- 2:23:06Speaker 5: They gave met shirt.
- 2:23:09Speaker 6: Yeah, my guy, this is exciting. So what were your
- 2:23:13Speaker 6: first impressions, you know, coming into the building and all
- 2:23:17Speaker 6: that stuff.
- 2:23:18Speaker 5: Man it it was great. Uh. Shoot, when you walk
- 2:23:21Speaker 5: through the door, you just feel just the presence of winning, uh,
- 2:23:27Speaker 5: coming from a winning organization in Philadelphia, Uh, it's the
- 2:23:31Speaker 5: same way, but coming in here is just different. I
- 2:23:35Speaker 5: would I would say I wasn't always a fan of
- 2:23:37Speaker 5: the Patriots growing up because they were so good, and
- 2:23:42Speaker 5: I mean they just played kind of complimentary football. Great defense,
- 2:23:47Speaker 5: great players on defense, great players on offense, great quarterback play. Uh,
- 2:23:52Speaker 5: just situationally aware. They just did a lot of things good,
- 2:23:58Speaker 5: and I got tired of watching them win. I want
- 2:23:59Speaker 5: to see somebody else win, but here. I'm here now,
- 2:24:03Speaker 5: so I want to try to help add to that,
- 2:24:05Speaker 5: to that, to that winning tradition.
- 2:24:10Speaker 4: What are the guys on those teams, you know, as
- 2:24:12Speaker 4: much as you sort of rooted against them, that you
- 2:24:14Speaker 4: looked at, especially defensively, that you sort of admired.
- 2:24:19Speaker 5: Obviously Coach Rabel, I was a little younger when he
- 2:24:22Speaker 5: was playing, but I do remember he was playing defense
- 2:24:26Speaker 5: and offense. I remember he was catching passes too, so
- 2:24:30Speaker 5: he was he was definitely a guy obviously, Tom Brady
- 2:24:33Speaker 5: just having all the answers to the test, you know,
- 2:24:37Speaker 5: the film study he always talk about, and just making
- 2:24:40Speaker 5: the right reads and getting the ball where it needs
- 2:24:43Speaker 5: to be on time.
- 2:24:46Speaker 6: I think Rabel he had ten catches, all of them
- 2:24:48Speaker 6: were touchdowns.
- 2:24:49Speaker 9: Yeah, he's probably going to tell you about it a lot.
- 2:24:54Speaker 5: Yeah, man, that's good. That's that's cool, man.
- 2:24:57Speaker 8: But no, I just want to ask you about the lot. Like,
- 2:24:59Speaker 8: if you go back a year ago from right now,
- 2:25:00Speaker 8: you knew you were going into free agency. You guys
- 2:25:02Speaker 8: had a you know, a stack team over the last month,
- 2:25:05Speaker 8: you won a Super Bowl, you signed a free agency
- 2:25:06Speaker 8: contract to come in with.
- 2:25:07Speaker 9: What's this year been like and how much hard work
- 2:25:09Speaker 9: did you put in.
- 2:25:10Speaker 8: Last summer in preparation for kind of where you are
- 2:25:12Speaker 8: right now.
- 2:25:12Speaker 5: I put in a lot of work, uh with this
- 2:25:15Speaker 5: guy right here, yours trainer, Okay, put it put in
- 2:25:22Speaker 5: a lot of work just getting ready, just trying to
- 2:25:27Speaker 5: prepare my body, knowing that I was gonna get a
- 2:25:31Speaker 5: bigger role for the first time in my career and
- 2:25:33Speaker 5: wanted to be ready for any challenge that that came.
- 2:25:37Speaker 5: So getting stronger, getting faster, uh more endurance, you know,
- 2:25:43Speaker 5: doing a little boxing, you know, doing whatever I can
- 2:25:46Speaker 5: to make sure that I'm in the best shape of
- 2:25:49Speaker 5: my life and I can produce when it's trying to produce.
- 2:25:53Speaker 6: Does the boxing help with just a hand quickness and hand.
- 2:25:57Speaker 5: Hand quickness feat quickness und hand our coordination endurance helped
- 2:26:04Speaker 5: a lot.
- 2:26:05Speaker 6: You know, after the after the whistle, you know, you
- 2:26:07Speaker 6: might get a couple.
- 2:26:08Speaker 5: Inn you don't want to do it. Look, you don't
- 2:26:11Speaker 5: want to you don't want to be dirty. It's a
- 2:26:13Speaker 5: couple of guys that I don't do this to.
- 2:26:16Speaker 4: About a couple of other guys that might.
- 2:26:19Speaker 5: Do that, I ain't gonna call them out either. They So,
- 2:26:24Speaker 5: you just.
- 2:26:24Speaker 6: Won a super Bowl and you mentioned coming in here
- 2:26:27Speaker 6: you sense the the vibe of the winning. But there's
- 2:26:30Speaker 6: only two guys left now here after David Andrews is gone,
- 2:26:34Speaker 6: who have won super Bowls with this team. So frankly,
- 2:26:38Speaker 6: we need guys, more guys like you who have that experience.
- 2:26:43Speaker 6: Is that something that you're ready to bring, like this
- 2:26:46Speaker 6: is what it takes to win super Bowls?
- 2:26:48Speaker 5: Guys, definitely. I know what it looked like last year.
- 2:26:52Speaker 5: We had a really close team and we just played
- 2:26:57Speaker 5: for each other.
- 2:26:58Speaker 32: Uh.
- 2:26:59Speaker 5: Great coaches, No, we we knew it was gonna be
- 2:27:04Speaker 5: a journey. H Coach Sirianni. He always talked about the
- 2:27:07Speaker 5: climb and you know, playing the game that's in front
- 2:27:11Speaker 5: of us, not worried about anything like down the line
- 2:27:14Speaker 5: or whatever. In the past, but we just played for
- 2:27:19Speaker 5: each other. Uh, played for the city of course, and
- 2:27:23Speaker 5: just going out there and being physical and you know,
- 2:27:26Speaker 5: dominating your box. You know, whatever whatever your job is
- 2:27:29Speaker 5: on any given play, make sure that you're executing at
- 2:27:32Speaker 5: the best of your ability and you know, get everybody
- 2:27:35Speaker 5: on that same page and you know, Uh we can
- 2:27:39Speaker 5: went out there and dominated Super Bowl.
- 2:27:42Speaker 3: So if you got a one on one, like yeah,
- 2:27:45Speaker 3: fourth quarter games on the line. I seen you use
- 2:27:48Speaker 3: a lot of different pass rush movies, So I gotta
- 2:27:50Speaker 3: ask you what's your favorite one, Like, what's the one
- 2:27:52Speaker 3: you're going through?
- 2:27:53Speaker 16: Uh?
- 2:27:54Speaker 5: If if a guy then like strap me up a
- 2:27:57Speaker 5: couple of times like got me like he got me uh.
- 2:28:00Speaker 16: Uh.
- 2:28:00Speaker 5: Speed and power.
- 2:28:01Speaker 27: Uh.
- 2:28:03Speaker 5: I feel like I'm fast, fast, from my size, explosive
- 2:28:06Speaker 5: enough to generate that power. And then also just with
- 2:28:10Speaker 5: my strength up about these strengths, just being able to
- 2:28:13Speaker 5: get get my hands inside and you know, try to
- 2:28:16Speaker 5: put try to either collapse the pocket or push them
- 2:28:18Speaker 5: back far enough where I can disengage.
- 2:28:21Speaker 4: Uh.
- 2:28:21Speaker 5: That was my go to. So most of the time
- 2:28:23Speaker 5: guys struggle with sitting down my power, so they'll try
- 2:28:26Speaker 5: to sit different and then I can get on edge
- 2:28:28Speaker 5: quicker because they're trying to stop me in my tracks earlier.
- 2:28:32Speaker 5: So once that if I catch your hand, it's over
- 2:28:34Speaker 5: because I'm finna just run value. But yeah, my go
- 2:28:38Speaker 5: to will probably be a power rush.
- 2:28:40Speaker 3: Super Bowl stripsack on one of those, I believe, right, Yeah, yeah.
- 2:28:43Speaker 6: Yeah, So are you familiar with this area at all?
- 2:28:46Speaker 6: Have you ever visited New England or the Boston area
- 2:28:49Speaker 6: or uh?
- 2:28:50Speaker 5: We we practice against you guys, uh before the season
- 2:28:54Speaker 5: last year? That was that was the only dominated Yeah.
- 2:28:59Speaker 6: I supposed to say that, I don't know. That was
- 2:29:02Speaker 6: probably the lowest.
- 2:29:04Speaker 4: That was the day I knew there was not going
- 2:29:07Speaker 4: to be a good season.
- 2:29:08Speaker 6: I mean we could literally slap much.
- 2:29:14Speaker 4: Literally that was a college team against the program.
- 2:29:16Speaker 6: The Patriots could not execute their offense that day because
- 2:29:20Speaker 6: the pressure.
- 2:29:21Speaker 4: Because if you got because you and Jalen Jordan's like
- 2:29:23Speaker 4: they not even got a snap.
- 2:29:25Speaker 5: I remember, I remember I've been telling some of the
- 2:29:27Speaker 5: guys like, I remember we came out here and we
- 2:29:30Speaker 5: just I remember I was, I don't like to just gloating,
- 2:29:35Speaker 5: I was going.
- 2:29:36Speaker 6: I mean, that was that was We've had a lot
- 2:29:38Speaker 6: of joint practices. That was the worst one to.
- 2:29:40Speaker 5: See I'm telling you, we was getting after it for sure.
- 2:29:44Speaker 5: So I was once. Uh my agent told me that
- 2:29:47Speaker 5: they were interesting. I'm like, they probably got their take.
- 2:29:52Speaker 6: Ye, all right, Well we're getting to wrap up. You
- 2:29:54Speaker 6: got other things to do. We appreciate you stopping by
- 2:29:56Speaker 6: for a few minutes. If you have any food things
- 2:29:59Speaker 6: you need, recommendations on were the people to go to
- 2:30:02Speaker 6: eat a lot.
- 2:30:03Speaker 5: I appreciate it, appreciate having appreciate it.
- 2:30:06Speaker 4: Congratulations Agains, All right, there you go, have a good one.
- 2:30:12Speaker 6: All right, the prize of free agency in New England.
- 2:30:15Speaker 4: I can't believe I didn't remember that absolute mass kicking.
- 2:30:18Speaker 4: They gave us another joint practice. I can't believe. That
- 2:30:21Speaker 4: just popped into my head when he started talking about it.
- 2:30:26Speaker 4: Smile like no, like that was the Today was the
- 2:30:31Speaker 4: day that I realized that the twenty four Patriots were
- 2:30:34Speaker 4: not going.
- 2:30:34Speaker 6: To be That was a low point.
- 2:30:36Speaker 4: They could not get a snap off all the false starts,
- 2:30:40Speaker 4: in all the sacks.
- 2:30:41Speaker 8: I mean that he was one of the reasons we
- 2:30:43Speaker 8: should have a pull of highlight from us doing the
- 2:30:45Speaker 8: live broadcast.
- 2:30:46Speaker 3: Well, I remember us talking on the show during the
- 2:30:51Speaker 3: live broadcast, can we get one of these guys on
- 2:30:53Speaker 3: our defensive line.
- 2:30:54Speaker 4: And now here we go.
- 2:30:55Speaker 3: So at least we got one.
- 2:30:57Speaker 6: Finally, yep, I saw a large figure coming into the
- 2:31:03Speaker 6: other studio. So whenever he's ready, we're going to have
- 2:31:07Speaker 6: our next guest. But yeah, that was that was interesting.
- 2:31:11Speaker 6: I wanted to get into like restaurants with him, like
- 2:31:14Speaker 6: what does he like to eat, so we could make
- 2:31:15Speaker 6: some recommendations, you know, our boneless wings, truly boneless wings,
- 2:31:20Speaker 6: but we didn't get to go there.
- 2:31:21Speaker 3: Yeah, his whole family is here, so you might have
- 2:31:24Speaker 3: seen his father there and they're all already decked out
- 2:31:27Speaker 3: in Patriots geared. They went to the pro shop and
- 2:31:30Speaker 3: we gave him some swag bags and stuff like that,
- 2:31:32Speaker 3: so they all got Patriots geared.
- 2:31:34Speaker 5: What do you have? Real quick?
- 2:31:35Speaker 8: Just to David Andrews put out a post on Instagram
- 2:31:37Speaker 8: just said thank you Patriots. I will always cherish the
- 2:31:40Speaker 8: memories and relationships on and off the field and what
- 2:31:42Speaker 8: we accomplished the best ten years me and Mac Andrews
- 2:31:45Speaker 8: could ever ask for.
- 2:31:46Speaker 9: I'll always be a Patriot.
- 2:31:47Speaker 8: So David Andrews chiming in, and I mean I think
- 2:31:50Speaker 8: we put out a lot of great content.
- 2:31:52Speaker 9: I mean there's so much a classy guy.
- 2:31:55Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, I expect nothing less.
- 2:31:57Speaker 5: Great.
- 2:32:00Speaker 6: Evan, we haven't had you know, while we wait for
- 2:32:02Speaker 6: Morgan to come in. Your impressions of the lineup this morning.
- 2:32:07Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really cool. Like I had never been
- 2:32:09Speaker 3: to one of those before. We haven't really done either ways. Yeah,
- 2:32:13Speaker 3: so it was it was really uh there there was buzz.
- 2:32:15Speaker 3: There was absolutely buzz and excitement, and it was I
- 2:32:20Speaker 3: thought interesting to hear Rabel talk about He called it
- 2:32:23Speaker 3: the group, the free Agency group of him and Elliott
- 2:32:27Speaker 3: Wolf and Ryan Cowden Macro and your guy Richard Miller
- 2:32:31Speaker 3: was also in that group as well. So Fred said
- 2:32:35Speaker 3: that we had to do something on.
- 2:32:37Speaker 6: Richard if he wants. Yeah, I'm negotiating with him.
- 2:32:40Speaker 3: I agree. But yeah, that that was cool to hear
- 2:32:43Speaker 3: about them on the phones. And you know, all the
- 2:32:45Speaker 3: bullets flying and stuff.
- 2:32:48Speaker 6: Okay, all right, have a scene come on in.
- 2:32:52Speaker 16: Yeah.
- 2:32:53Speaker 6: Well yeah, nice to.
- 2:32:55Speaker 4: Be congratulations that now, is it? Gucci? Okay? So, and
- 2:33:00Speaker 4: we were watching because Fred and I stayed here in
- 2:33:02Speaker 4: the studio, Mike and Evan went to the press commons.
- 2:33:04Speaker 4: We were trying to figure out, as Fred says, what
- 2:33:07Speaker 4: were you were wearing?
- 2:33:07Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
- 2:33:10Speaker 6: I was like, it can't be coach now, he wouldn't
- 2:33:12Speaker 6: do coach coach. Well, welcome, this is Deuce, Mike, I'm Fred,
- 2:33:21Speaker 6: Paul and Evan. Welcome to New England. Welcome, Yeah, thank
- 2:33:25Speaker 6: you for having me.
- 2:33:26Speaker 5: This is great.
- 2:33:26Speaker 6: We were excited just watching at the podium and you
- 2:33:29Speaker 6: were talking about lining up with Gonzo, and you know,
- 2:33:34Speaker 6: we're excited about that too, because you know, being able,
- 2:33:37Speaker 6: like coach Rabel said, Cats, you know, just take Cat Caverridge,
- 2:33:42Speaker 6: Let's let's go one on one. Let the other guys
- 2:33:45Speaker 6: get at the quarterback and play that complimentary type of football.
- 2:33:48Speaker 6: Is that something that excites you as well?
- 2:33:50Speaker 30: Of course it excites me, especially like being able to
- 2:33:52Speaker 30: go and play with Gonzo, a guy who I know
- 2:33:56Speaker 30: can hold his own and has shown it.
- 2:33:59Speaker 15: And previous years.
- 2:34:00Speaker 30: And you know, when you can play that type of football,
- 2:34:03Speaker 30: especially for defense, like like you said, it allows somebody
- 2:34:06Speaker 30: to rest the pass a little bit more efficiently, and
- 2:34:09Speaker 30: then you know it also puts pressure on a quarterback
- 2:34:13Speaker 30: because you're playing tight coverage and now he's not just
- 2:34:15Speaker 30: picking you off in his own and when you.
- 2:34:17Speaker 15: Need to play man and man, you can play it.
- 2:34:19Speaker 30: You could I've been on teams where we played man
- 2:34:21Speaker 30: and man like eighty percent of the snaps, you know,
- 2:34:24Speaker 30: And that's the more efficient way to get the offense
- 2:34:27Speaker 30: off the field and get three and outs quickly. And
- 2:34:29Speaker 30: now you're putting your offense back on the field and
- 2:34:31Speaker 30: he's getting more chances and you're just giving them more
- 2:34:33Speaker 30: chances of getting in zone.
- 2:34:34Speaker 6: But you've got to be able to do man. To
- 2:34:36Speaker 6: be able to do it, there's a downside if you're
- 2:34:38Speaker 6: if you're losing those battles and yeah.
- 2:34:41Speaker 4: Right, yeah it can be bad.
- 2:34:42Speaker 30: Yeah, bad, But it takes a certain type of guy
- 2:34:45Speaker 30: to want to do it and to continue to do
- 2:34:47Speaker 30: it because you may not be perfect, but you have
- 2:34:50Speaker 30: to have that dogmentality where I'm going to come back
- 2:34:53Speaker 30: and I'm gonna win, I'm gonna fight, and then you
- 2:34:54Speaker 30: have to have a good technique in it. And uh,
- 2:34:56Speaker 30: you know, that's something I've been doing my whole career.
- 2:34:59Speaker 30: We've we had a lot of success behind it, and
- 2:35:02Speaker 30: at Detroit and at Tampa when we were able to
- 2:35:05Speaker 30: do it, and a lot of the guys to just
- 2:35:06Speaker 30: rust the pastors. So I can't wait till we to
- 2:35:08Speaker 30: go out there and just lock up and really show
- 2:35:11Speaker 30: everybody what we can't do.
- 2:35:12Speaker 11: Yeah, how much.
- 2:35:13Speaker 8: Pride do you take in the physicality of your game,
- 2:35:14Speaker 8: because it seems like you're a good good complimented to Gonzo,
- 2:35:18Speaker 8: but that's that's you.
- 2:35:19Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, that is me. I do love to be physical.
- 2:35:21Speaker 30: I do love to you know, and still fear and
- 2:35:23Speaker 30: kind of be a bully out there. If I'm being
- 2:35:25Speaker 30: quite honest, I like to have that intimidation factor knowing
- 2:35:28Speaker 30: that they watched the film from last week and they've
- 2:35:31Speaker 30: been watching the film and in their meetings their coaches
- 2:35:34Speaker 30: were talking about this guy is a bully, and this
- 2:35:36Speaker 30: guy's gonna press you, and this guy's gonna close space
- 2:35:39Speaker 30: on you, and you gotta and you can tell, like
- 2:35:41Speaker 30: you get out there, you can just look at a
- 2:35:43Speaker 30: receiver and up his coach is watching film.
- 2:35:45Speaker 15: His coach total.
- 2:35:46Speaker 6: Because he's a little nervous.
- 2:35:47Speaker 30: He's a little you know, just antsy about what's about
- 2:35:50Speaker 30: to happen, and he knows you're gonna press him and
- 2:35:52Speaker 30: you're not gonna give him too much space.
- 2:35:53Speaker 9: It sounds like Jamar Chase did a study art.
- 2:35:57Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
- 2:35:58Speaker 30: You know, I don't think he knew, but I like
- 2:36:00Speaker 30: he found out and I think he's a great player.
- 2:36:02Speaker 31: Uh.
- 2:36:03Speaker 30: You know, I don't really like to anti getize situations,
- 2:36:06Speaker 30: but I do love to, you know, give respect and
- 2:36:08Speaker 30: get respect.
- 2:36:10Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 2:36:10Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 2:36:11Speaker 6: And does that competitiveness and physicality extend the practice too,
- 2:36:14Speaker 6: Do you like to get it on with your teammates
- 2:36:16Speaker 6: and challenge that offense?
- 2:36:18Speaker 30: It starts in practice, yeah, Like, honestly, that doesn't happen
- 2:36:21Speaker 30: in the game if it's not in practice. And you know,
- 2:36:23Speaker 30: when I was younger, I would I didn't appreciate practice
- 2:36:26Speaker 30: as much and I didn't like understand how important it
- 2:36:29Speaker 30: was until you know, I had, you know, times where
- 2:36:32Speaker 30: I would be as in practice and then try to
- 2:36:34Speaker 30: cut it on in the game and it does not work.
- 2:36:36Speaker 12: Like you can't do it.
- 2:36:37Speaker 30: Like even if you're telling yourself mentally, I'm gonna do this,
- 2:36:41Speaker 30: you're getting the game and you just kind of freeze
- 2:36:43Speaker 30: up because the muscle.
- 2:36:45Speaker 15: Is it's called muscle memory. Yeah, it's muscle memory, that's it. Yeah.
- 2:36:49Speaker 3: Just you know your length, your your arm length and
- 2:36:52Speaker 3: all that stuff. I remember you coming out of the
- 2:36:53Speaker 3: draft and like it was that was all to talk
- 2:36:56Speaker 3: about you is. I think you're in ninety fifth percentile
- 2:36:59Speaker 3: with your wingspin for a corner. Just how does that
- 2:37:01Speaker 3: help you, you know, in terms of pressing guys or
- 2:37:04Speaker 3: even getting in passing links, you know what.
- 2:37:06Speaker 30: I use it to my adventage And people say, well,
- 2:37:08Speaker 30: you have long arms, but there's a lot of guys
- 2:37:10Speaker 30: who will have long arms. But I think the key
- 2:37:12Speaker 30: to that is being deceptive in your reach. So a
- 2:37:16Speaker 30: lot of times with boxers or you know, MMA fighters,
- 2:37:21Speaker 30: and I'm not sure if your guys are big fans
- 2:37:23Speaker 30: of that, but you know, it's all about the reach
- 2:37:25Speaker 30: and all about you know, how deceptive you can be
- 2:37:27Speaker 30: in touching your opponent or being in that range to
- 2:37:30Speaker 30: touch them. So for me, you know, I'm a little
- 2:37:32Speaker 30: deceptive with my spatial awareness and knowing when I can
- 2:37:36Speaker 30: and can't touch them. And then also like if I'm
- 2:37:39Speaker 30: at the line and I'm close up on you, sometimes
- 2:37:41Speaker 30: you'll kind of anticipate me touching you because you think,
- 2:37:44Speaker 30: you know I have long arms, But I'll just give
- 2:37:46Speaker 30: you some space so I can allow you to commit
- 2:37:48Speaker 30: and then put my arms on you. Ors sometimes I'm
- 2:37:51Speaker 30: at the point where you know, obviously film doesn't give
- 2:37:54Speaker 30: you you know, exactly the dimensions of my arms or
- 2:37:58Speaker 30: you don't know until you really see me. Sometimes, Uh,
- 2:38:01Speaker 30: when you see me in a game and it's the
- 2:38:02Speaker 30: first time you see me, you're not really too short,
- 2:38:04Speaker 30: like you've seen it on film, but you haven't experienced it.
- 2:38:07Speaker 30: So when I do get in front of you, it's
- 2:38:09Speaker 30: kind of different where Okay, I got enough space, but
- 2:38:11Speaker 30: you really don't like one step and I'm going to
- 2:38:13Speaker 30: touch you. So I kind of use it as a
- 2:38:15Speaker 30: deceptive tool in my game where I'm not, like, you know,
- 2:38:19Speaker 30: trying to be overly aggressive, but I'm trying to kind of, uh,
- 2:38:22Speaker 30: you know, size it up.
- 2:38:23Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul and I are in the over seventy Bare
- 2:38:25Speaker 6: Knuckles League. Oh yeah, we're not over seventy. The only
- 2:38:30Speaker 6: guys that we can fight.
- 2:38:33Speaker 4: Over fifty. I want to ask you, Carleton about I
- 2:38:37Speaker 4: think you were quoted before the free agent process started
- 2:38:40Speaker 4: that you sort of regretted the way you approached it
- 2:38:43Speaker 4: last year. What are some of the differences what you
- 2:38:46Speaker 4: felt like you were able to do this time in
- 2:38:48Speaker 4: terms of the whole process that you you didn't do
- 2:38:50Speaker 4: last year.
- 2:38:50Speaker 30: So the last time I hit free agency with Tampa,
- 2:38:54Speaker 30: you know, I just felt as if I panicked and
- 2:38:58Speaker 30: I don't say I wouldn't say panic, but you know,
- 2:39:00Speaker 30: when free agency starts, it's going fast, and you know
- 2:39:03Speaker 30: you gotta make a decisive decision. You need to you know,
- 2:39:07Speaker 30: you know, make that decision fast because as the longer
- 2:39:10Speaker 30: you wait, the more the money goes in. And I
- 2:39:12Speaker 30: feel as if, you know, I didn't wanna leave where
- 2:39:16Speaker 30: I was at, and you know, when we started talking,
- 2:39:20Speaker 30: my agent wasn't really getting nowhere with the negotiations, and
- 2:39:25Speaker 30: I was just saying, alright, j just you know, I
- 2:39:26Speaker 30: just kind of panic and say just take it, just
- 2:39:28Speaker 30: take it, just take it. And you know, after talking
- 2:39:30Speaker 30: to other people after the fact, it kind of felt
- 2:39:33Speaker 30: as if I left money on the table. And then
- 2:39:35Speaker 30: I kind of felt that way too, even if it
- 2:39:37Speaker 30: was like maybe a mill or so short. You know,
- 2:39:40Speaker 30: in this league, you wanna be as efficient as possible
- 2:39:42Speaker 30: because you never know when it could be your last game.
- 2:39:44Speaker 30: So you know, I was kind of frustrated, uh, with
- 2:39:48Speaker 30: that process back then, and I knew I was hoping
- 2:39:51Speaker 30: that me and Detroit can get something done before I
- 2:39:54Speaker 30: hit free agency, and that was you know, my mind
- 2:39:57Speaker 30: frame going into it, that I wouldn't even hit it
- 2:39:59Speaker 30: because we were all really be negotiations, and you know,
- 2:40:02Speaker 30: it just wasn't going the way I planned it to go.
- 2:40:05Speaker 30: So I was just kind of frustrated with it. Like,
- 2:40:06Speaker 30: you know, if I hit free agency this time, I'm
- 2:40:08Speaker 30: not gonna panic. I'm gonna you know, make the right
- 2:40:10Speaker 30: decision and I'm gonna go where I'm wanted and I'm
- 2:40:13Speaker 30: not gonna just you know, stay because I'm nervous or
- 2:40:17Speaker 30: I'm panicking or i don't want to change situations.
- 2:40:19Speaker 4: So that was really the message, and that was gonna
- 2:40:22Speaker 4: be a follow up. It's just how difficult it was
- 2:40:24Speaker 4: to leave Detroit, which I know it was obviously disappointing
- 2:40:28Speaker 4: end for you guys, but still one of the best
- 2:40:30Speaker 4: two or three teams in football. How tough was that
- 2:40:33Speaker 4: to that would walk away from that was tough.
- 2:40:35Speaker 30: It was really tough, honestly, because I just moved from
- 2:40:40Speaker 30: a situation I just you know, got comfortable there and
- 2:40:43Speaker 30: I'm not a guy who wants to team hop Like
- 2:40:46Speaker 30: I'm trying to play hard, play hard for the organization
- 2:40:50Speaker 30: and eventually, you know, buy into it and they buy
- 2:40:52Speaker 30: into me.
- 2:40:53Speaker 12: So you know, that was my plan.
- 2:40:55Speaker 30: When I did get traded there, it was to you know,
- 2:40:57Speaker 30: leave a good enough impression where they were want to me,
- 2:41:01Speaker 30: uh you know, and I could be there for the
- 2:41:02Speaker 30: rest of my career.
- 2:41:03Speaker 15: So and so, you know, leaving was tough.
- 2:41:06Speaker 30: I had so I just had good bonds with the
- 2:41:09Speaker 30: guys and I still have good bonds with them, and
- 2:41:11Speaker 30: I still respect them and I still, uh you know,
- 2:41:14Speaker 30: love them as teammates.
- 2:41:15Speaker 37: Man.
- 2:41:15Speaker 30: And you know a lot of those guys reached out
- 2:41:18Speaker 30: to me during this process and they wanted me to
- 2:41:20Speaker 30: get a deal done, and even after the fact when
- 2:41:22Speaker 30: I chose to come here, they still reached out to me.
- 2:41:24Speaker 30: And you know, you know, was just happy for the
- 2:41:27Speaker 30: time I did spend there and congratulated me.
- 2:41:30Speaker 15: So it was tough.
- 2:41:31Speaker 6: I love the city I did.
- 2:41:32Speaker 30: I did grow to love it and just you know,
- 2:41:33Speaker 30: winning when you're winning like that and you have so
- 2:41:36Speaker 30: much success, especially and that you love you guys. Man,
- 2:41:39Speaker 30: it was a time for Detroit and it was a
- 2:41:41Speaker 30: great time and it still is. So it was hard
- 2:41:43Speaker 30: for me to leave, but you know, ultimately I had
- 2:41:45Speaker 30: to do what was best for my career and go
- 2:41:47Speaker 30: where I was want of their priorities.
- 2:41:49Speaker 6: You win here, We'll love you too, oh man.
- 2:41:51Speaker 30: I mean, I'm not coming here too, just like soak
- 2:41:55Speaker 30: it in and just oh, I'm happy, Like, no, I'm
- 2:41:57Speaker 30: not here to do that, like I'm here to win.
- 2:41:59Speaker 30: I saw I've ever been about, you know, in my career,
- 2:42:01Speaker 30: I've been trying to just be the best I can
- 2:42:03Speaker 30: be and help the team the best way I can.
- 2:42:06Speaker 30: And in those little steps you take big steps, you know,
- 2:42:09Speaker 30: because you know it's the small details that make the
- 2:42:11Speaker 30: biggest leaps. And you know, talking to Terrell Williams, I
- 2:42:16Speaker 30: mean Terence Williams before I came here, he was just
- 2:42:18Speaker 30: like he felt as if that like, you know, after
- 2:42:23Speaker 30: that sign, he felt like we were closer to being
- 2:42:26Speaker 30: good than other people thought. Like he was like, you know, man,
- 2:42:29Speaker 30: now that we got you in the guys, I feel
- 2:42:30Speaker 30: he felt as if like people, you know, may look
- 2:42:33Speaker 30: at that record last year and may think, well, they
- 2:42:35Speaker 30: have a way to go. It doesn't matter like what
- 2:42:36Speaker 30: they who they bring in. But in this league, it's
- 2:42:39Speaker 30: just the small things. It could be one, two, three
- 2:42:41Speaker 30: players that just change it and turn it all around,
- 2:42:44Speaker 30: with the leadership, with the play on the field, with
- 2:42:47Speaker 30: the plays they make, the timely plays, because you know,
- 2:42:50Speaker 30: in games, it's just the difference is just a couple
- 2:42:52Speaker 30: of plays, if you think about it, and third down situations,
- 2:42:55Speaker 30: red soon, red zone situations. So when you get better
- 2:42:59Speaker 30: in those fields and you have better players situationally, you
- 2:43:01Speaker 30: can be better overall.
- 2:43:03Speaker 6: Yes, Coach Rabel said when he came here first, he said,
- 2:43:06Speaker 6: we just want to be a team that takes advantage
- 2:43:08Speaker 6: of bad football. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Hey, I appreciate you
- 2:43:12Speaker 6: coming by. We spend a kind of whirlwind today, so
- 2:43:16Speaker 6: we'll let you get back at it. But welcome to
- 2:43:18Speaker 6: New England.
- 2:43:18Speaker 15: Thank you guys for having me.
- 2:43:20Speaker 6: All right, happy to meet you.
- 2:43:21Speaker 11: Guys.
- 2:43:22Speaker 9: What number they get you there?
- 2:43:24Speaker 6: All right, that's going to be your number? Yes, okay,
- 2:43:27Speaker 6: all right, there we go, thank you, all right, thank you.
- 2:43:31Speaker 3: It was like maybe like a double O seven there
- 2:43:33Speaker 3: we go. Yeah, and Gonzo, Yeah, that's that's awesome.
- 2:43:39Speaker 5: That's fun.
- 2:43:40Speaker 4: It's going to spoil Mike Reese's content because we already
- 2:43:43Speaker 4: know what all the new guys are wearing. Fourteen for Spolain,
- 2:43:47Speaker 4: seventy six for for Moses. Ninety seven for.
- 2:43:50Speaker 3: Seventy six is a great tackle number offensive.
- 2:43:54Speaker 6: He different voice obviously reminds me a little bit of
- 2:43:58Speaker 6: to lead.
- 2:43:59Speaker 5: You know.
- 2:44:00Speaker 6: It's like you know Sharp.
- 2:44:02Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, wow.
- 2:44:04Speaker 9: I never got to talk to Eily but.
- 2:44:11Speaker 3: Hold a bake sale for But I just love, you know,
- 2:44:14Speaker 3: listening to to Carlon Davis talk now and at the
- 2:44:17Speaker 3: podium and with Gonzo, but we know of him, Like
- 2:44:20Speaker 3: these are two guys that want that matchup, Like they
- 2:44:23Speaker 3: want to go up against Jamar Chase and they want
- 2:44:26Speaker 3: to go up against Tyreek Hill and those types of guys.
- 2:44:29Speaker 3: So it would be interesting like how they battle it
- 2:44:31Speaker 3: out for who gets who you know on Sundays and stuff,
- 2:44:34Speaker 3: and uh, you know you get that cat AND's like,
- 2:44:37Speaker 3: actually I'm going to take Tyreek this week. You know,
- 2:44:39Speaker 3: you get him next time. So but they they're both
- 2:44:42Speaker 3: that mentality of let's let's get it, you know, let's
- 2:44:44Speaker 3: get those good stuff.
- 2:44:45Speaker 6: Maybe Ryan's still on the phone. Ryan, you're still there.
- 2:44:49Speaker 3: Sorry, Yeah, I'm still here.
- 2:44:51Speaker 6: Good for you, all right, So the floor is yours.
- 2:44:56Speaker 36: Yeah, Like I was talking earlier with on the stuff
- 2:45:01Speaker 36: since we signed him and we've got that duo now
- 2:45:03Speaker 36: on a lock with John, do I feel like at
- 2:45:06Speaker 36: number four we really got to get Hunter. You can't
- 2:45:08Speaker 36: pass up that talent, especially now that he could do
- 2:45:11Speaker 36: more offense and have the design quarterback plays, especially in.
- 2:45:15Speaker 37: The McDaniel's run offense.
- 2:45:16Speaker 36: So I was just wanting to see what y'all thought
- 2:45:18Speaker 36: about that.
- 2:45:18Speaker 8: Okay Hunter, I mean, if Hunter's there, if Hunter Carter there,
- 2:45:22Speaker 8: Oh I don't.
- 2:45:23Speaker 6: I mean, can you imagine, like, forget about wide receiver,
- 2:45:26Speaker 6: because I think if you bring him in, the first
- 2:45:28Speaker 6: thing you got to do is get his looks at
- 2:45:30Speaker 6: wide receiver. Could you imagine the three of them on
- 2:45:33Speaker 6: the field at the same time. Holy crap. Yeah, that
- 2:45:37Speaker 6: that might be like, like I know, I'm getting crazy here,
- 2:45:40Speaker 6: but over time, that could be looked at the best
- 2:45:43Speaker 6: cornerback trio in the history of the NFL.
- 2:45:46Speaker 8: I mean I got together those two guys on the outside,
- 2:45:49Speaker 8: Travis Hunter kind of roaming around, you know, letting him
- 2:45:51Speaker 8: do his thing. I just I was thinking of the
- 2:45:53Speaker 8: draft night party where obviously the picks come in, and
- 2:45:56Speaker 8: if that third pick were to be Shuldar Sanders and
- 2:46:00Speaker 8: everyone knows Hunters sitting there. I mean, you know, I
- 2:46:02Speaker 8: hang the whole their whole draft party, you will probably
- 2:46:04Speaker 8: start trying it travels. You know, I hard pressed to
- 2:46:07Speaker 8: find somebody who doesn't.
- 2:46:09Speaker 9: All right, I wouldn't want him.
- 2:46:10Speaker 6: We have our third guest coming in and everybody. It's
- 2:46:13Speaker 6: a big one. All right, how are you? You know?
- 2:46:23Speaker 9: Clips the camera?
- 2:46:24Speaker 6: All right, Morgan Moses, Oh my goodness, welcome.
- 2:46:29Speaker 4: I want to lead off right away by saying, I'd
- 2:46:31Speaker 4: like you to be my life coach.
- 2:46:33Speaker 5: I got you, I got you.
- 2:46:35Speaker 4: I was so impressed with you know, Fred and I
- 2:46:37Speaker 4: sat here listening to the press conference. I was just
- 2:46:40Speaker 4: so impressed listening to you talk about the bond of
- 2:46:43Speaker 4: the offensive line in particular, and it's like everything that
- 2:46:46Speaker 4: went with it. You work with your kids. I just
- 2:46:49Speaker 4: I need you to take me under your man six
- 2:46:53Speaker 4: I still have.
- 2:46:54Speaker 5: Life is a remolving door man. You learn as you
- 2:46:56Speaker 5: go man.
- 2:46:57Speaker 32: So it's it's no better feeling to be able to
- 2:47:00Speaker 32: give back to you know, your young kings and showing
- 2:47:02Speaker 32: them the way we.
- 2:47:03Speaker 6: Were talking about, like what's our favorite signing, because it's
- 2:47:05Speaker 6: not often the Patriots have had this amount of signing
- 2:47:09Speaker 6: so early in free agency a couple of times, but
- 2:47:11Speaker 6: not often. You're the unanimous vote, like you're our favorite
- 2:47:15Speaker 6: signing because you it seems to me that you bring
- 2:47:18Speaker 6: a level of maturity and experience that this team needs,
- 2:47:23Speaker 6: especially in offensive line leader than Andrews is now gone.
- 2:47:26Speaker 6: You know, you probably heard that he was the captain,
- 2:47:29Speaker 6: Michael on one you was our most experienced guy. He's
- 2:47:31Speaker 6: twenty seven.
- 2:47:32Speaker 5: By the way, I can't wait to play beside Mike.
- 2:47:34Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, oh oh, I can't wait. And wait, I
- 2:47:37Speaker 6: can't wait.
- 2:47:38Speaker 9: I defenses can wait.
- 2:47:41Speaker 6: Frankly, Morgan, the line needs that leadership. Are you ready
- 2:47:45Speaker 6: for that? Are you willing to be that leader?
- 2:47:48Speaker 32: I'm gonna tell you this, man, my great great great
- 2:47:49Speaker 32: great great great great great great grandfather part of the
- 2:47:53Speaker 32: rec a long time ago. So I was built for this.
- 2:47:58Speaker 6: Now where that's good to know because I think we
- 2:48:08Speaker 6: need that.
- 2:48:08Speaker 8: Yes, sir, yeah, you come from the Jets and the
- 2:48:10Speaker 8: Ravens the last few years, and what was just your
- 2:48:12Speaker 8: impression and that's the two of.
- 2:48:13Speaker 9: The great rivals.
- 2:48:14Speaker 5: But the Patriots here, what.
- 2:48:16Speaker 9: Was kind of impression of these games as you were
- 2:48:17Speaker 9: on the other side of it?
- 2:48:18Speaker 32: You know, obviously, man coming in here is not easy
- 2:48:21Speaker 32: to play, man like. The fans are just die hard,
- 2:48:24Speaker 32: you know, they are die hard, and obviously, you know,
- 2:48:27Speaker 32: when you come to an organization that has won so much,
- 2:48:29Speaker 32: right the lineage of history of you know, a great owner,
- 2:48:34Speaker 32: you know, great coaches, that came through here, great players.
- 2:48:37Speaker 5: You know, my son was teasing me earlier, he said,
- 2:48:39Speaker 5: did you did you play against coach ten years old?
- 2:48:43Speaker 5: I said, no, bro, I'm not that old man. I
- 2:48:45Speaker 5: didn't play against them.
- 2:48:46Speaker 32: But obviously I've had a number of battles, you know,
- 2:48:49Speaker 32: against this team over the course of my career, and
- 2:48:52Speaker 32: it's always been fun to play.
- 2:48:54Speaker 5: Here.
- 2:48:54Speaker 32: Has always been tough games, down to the down to
- 2:48:56Speaker 32: the wire, and that's what you want, right like, even
- 2:48:59Speaker 32: you know, the couple of years, you know, we can
- 2:49:01Speaker 32: sit here and say that, you know, we haven't been great,
- 2:49:04Speaker 32: but you know, when you go out there and look
- 2:49:06Speaker 32: at the film, you got guys that's running through walls
- 2:49:09Speaker 32: until that last whistle, And that's what you want, you know,
- 2:49:12Speaker 32: when you bring when you look at a team and say, hey, like, hey,
- 2:49:14Speaker 32: we're not where we're where we want to be at
- 2:49:16Speaker 32: right now, but we have some guys, you know, we
- 2:49:19Speaker 32: have some guys that we can build with and build from.
- 2:49:22Speaker 32: And then you add coach Rabel, who's done it at
- 2:49:24Speaker 32: a high level on multiple you know levels as a
- 2:49:27Speaker 32: coach and player. You know, I think I said this
- 2:49:30Speaker 32: in the press conference earlier. You know, shoot, he holds
- 2:49:33Speaker 32: that bag for guys, and I just watch him on
- 2:49:35Speaker 32: the sideline getting punched and I'm like, man, I'm holding
- 2:49:37Speaker 32: it for nine and ten years old when I'm coaching,
- 2:49:39Speaker 32: and I'm like, it hurts, bro, you know.
- 2:49:41Speaker 5: So just being able to see him do that and
- 2:49:43Speaker 5: give back and not just be a.
- 2:49:45Speaker 32: Coach man like he understands because he's played this game
- 2:49:47Speaker 32: at a high level, he's won at a high level.
- 2:49:50Speaker 32: It only makes the players exciting in the locker room
- 2:49:52Speaker 32: because it's coming from a guy that's been through the
- 2:49:55Speaker 32: the you know, he's been through it.
- 2:49:56Speaker 5: He's been through the war.
- 2:49:57Speaker 6: So arm blanked is always a big ti with Will
- 2:50:00Speaker 6: Campbell possibly you know, in the range for the Patriots.
- 2:50:04Speaker 6: You know, he came in under thirty four and just
- 2:50:07Speaker 6: you're thirty five thirty three your arm Like, can you
- 2:50:11Speaker 6: just explain because our listeners ask us and we don't know.
- 2:50:13Speaker 6: We don't play the position, like, what does that extra
- 2:50:16Speaker 6: arm leg help when you're a tackle?
- 2:50:18Speaker 32: Well, I'm gonna say this, man, when I first got
- 2:50:20Speaker 32: in the league, I didn't I didn't know how to
- 2:50:22Speaker 32: use lengthy you know. I had a great coach and
- 2:50:25Speaker 32: Bill Callahan, who's well known throughout this league, and he he,
- 2:50:28Speaker 32: he was like, hey, like, man, like, you're working too
- 2:50:30Speaker 32: hard trying to move your feet to keep up with
- 2:50:32Speaker 32: these guys. You gotta use this god giving gift that
- 2:50:35Speaker 32: you got to these long arms, and and so just
- 2:50:37Speaker 32: being able to learn from those things and being able to,
- 2:50:40Speaker 32: you know, put those in my game and learning that
- 2:50:42Speaker 32: offensive line can have a tool kit just like pass
- 2:50:45Speaker 32: rushers as well. It's been vital to my career and so,
- 2:50:48Speaker 32: you know, but everybody has their their own, their own
- 2:50:50Speaker 32: niche right like I played with Trent Williams, who probably
- 2:50:53Speaker 32: doesn't necessarily have the longest arms, but who's an amazing
- 2:50:56Speaker 32: athlete and can stay in front of guys that run
- 2:50:59Speaker 32: for too So you know, God blesses us in different
- 2:51:02Speaker 32: dassets of life and in different ways, and you got
- 2:51:05Speaker 32: to be able to use those things.
- 2:51:06Speaker 5: And I think Will Campbell, you speak, who's been getting a.
- 2:51:09Speaker 6: Little you know, a little hot about the arm laf.
- 2:51:12Speaker 32: You know, obviously, you know, I think it was a
- 2:51:13Speaker 32: stat out there that said that he's blocked like the
- 2:51:16Speaker 32: top fifteen rushers in the combine. And obviously he's done
- 2:51:19Speaker 32: a pretty well job because he wouldn't be in a
- 2:51:21Speaker 32: in a in a conversation of a top ten So
- 2:51:24Speaker 32: you know, obviously you know he's found a way to
- 2:51:25Speaker 32: get around those things.
- 2:51:27Speaker 6: Yep.
- 2:51:28Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned Mike on one and the first thing
- 2:51:30Speaker 3: I thought of when they signed just you you two
- 2:51:32Speaker 3: on a double team is gonna move some mountains.
- 2:51:35Speaker 4: Wo yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 2:51:40Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 2:51:42Speaker 3: And there's a point that you guys were backed up
- 2:51:45Speaker 3: on your own goal line last year and they just
- 2:51:47Speaker 3: ran do a right behind you on that right side.
- 2:51:49Speaker 3: Now you're going to be next to Big Mike. Just
- 2:51:51Speaker 3: how much are you looking forward to those types of
- 2:51:54Speaker 3: moments with him and playing with him.
- 2:51:57Speaker 32: Mike's played, uh, you know, obviously watching off his line,
- 2:51:59Speaker 32: he's all across the board. He's done a phenomenal job
- 2:52:02Speaker 32: at each position he's played. That I think now he
- 2:52:05Speaker 32: gets to find a home in one spot, you know,
- 2:52:07Speaker 32: And I look forward to being able to build that
- 2:52:10Speaker 32: chemistry with him, and obviously getting to know him off
- 2:52:12Speaker 32: the field is going to make our relationship better on
- 2:52:15Speaker 32: the field. But just also you know, obviously picking his brain.
- 2:52:18Speaker 32: You know, he's a he's a football a great football player.
- 2:52:20Speaker 32: He's a smart player. He's played a lot of football,
- 2:52:22Speaker 32: and I never leave the cap, you know, sealed of like, hey,
- 2:52:25Speaker 32: I know it all.
- 2:52:27Speaker 16: You know.
- 2:52:27Speaker 6: I feel like I still the wise man knows nothing.
- 2:52:30Speaker 5: I feel like I have a lot to learn still
- 2:52:32Speaker 5: in this game.
- 2:52:32Speaker 32: And that's why I keep on coming back to play
- 2:52:34Speaker 32: it because it's it's such a fun time to be
- 2:52:36Speaker 32: able to come back and and play football and get
- 2:52:38Speaker 32: something to do, get to do something that you love
- 2:52:40Speaker 32: to do at a high level.
- 2:52:41Speaker 8: I know your availability has been such a big part
- 2:52:43Speaker 8: of your career. I heard you mentioned yoga up in there.
- 2:52:46Speaker 8: What what how do you How was your training evolved
- 2:52:48Speaker 8: and tell me a little bit about you doing yoga.
- 2:52:50Speaker 5: That's a man I had.
- 2:52:52Speaker 32: I had, Like I said earlier, man I had, I
- 2:52:54Speaker 32: had great vents when I first got in the league. Man,
- 2:52:55Speaker 32: so I had Trent Williams, and then I had a
- 2:52:57Speaker 32: guy named Jason Hatcher who when I was in Washington
- 2:53:00Speaker 32: we had got from Dallas and his locker was beside me.
- 2:53:03Speaker 32: And and you know, my rookie year, I had List.
- 2:53:06Speaker 32: I had the list Frank surgery. So I didn't play
- 2:53:08Speaker 32: that much my rookie year. And he would pull me
- 2:53:11Speaker 32: to the side during the offseason and say, hey, man,
- 2:53:13Speaker 32: like I see something in you that you might not
- 2:53:15Speaker 32: see yet. And so he would pick me up every
- 2:53:17Speaker 32: Tuesday on the off day and take me to yoga.
- 2:53:19Speaker 32: He would teach me how to eat right, eat clean,
- 2:53:21Speaker 32: And I think that's the word where my you know,
- 2:53:24Speaker 32: the dedication of rededicating myself to football and learning football
- 2:53:27Speaker 32: from another angle helped me grow as a player.
- 2:53:30Speaker 5: And so just finding different things right because like I mean,
- 2:53:33Speaker 5: we can.
- 2:53:33Speaker 32: Sit here and say, man, we can go in there
- 2:53:34Speaker 32: and throw four hundred pounds on the bench and do
- 2:53:36Speaker 32: all these things, but it gets boring sometimes, you know,
- 2:53:39Speaker 32: you want to change it up.
- 2:53:40Speaker 5: So yoga is a little challenging.
- 2:53:41Speaker 32: And I tend to stay in the back of the
- 2:53:43Speaker 32: room because I see a lot of people in there
- 2:53:45Speaker 32: that's like way better than me, like but at it.
- 2:53:48Speaker 32: But it's challenging, man. It's it's more than just a
- 2:53:50Speaker 32: workout as a mental thing. Obviously, being able to stay
- 2:53:53Speaker 32: in that heat for a long period of time while stretching.
- 2:53:56Speaker 32: But when you leave that thing, man, you you leave refreshed,
- 2:53:58Speaker 32: you leave renewed, And and that's one thing I love
- 2:54:01Speaker 32: about it.
- 2:54:01Speaker 6: We had a quarterback here who stress pliability.
- 2:54:04Speaker 5: He was big on that.
- 2:54:05Speaker 4: You might have heard about him.
- 2:54:06Speaker 5: Yeah, don't worry. I'll be tapping into some things as too.
- 2:54:10Speaker 6: I would be remiss. And I've been asked to ask
- 2:54:13Speaker 6: you who does your glasses and what are you wearing
- 2:54:18Speaker 6: those glasses?
- 2:54:21Speaker 5: So let's just put it on the table. I do
- 2:54:24Speaker 5: not wear glasses for real. These are just all fashioned.
- 2:54:28Speaker 5: I appreciate it, but it's working. I appreciate it, man,
- 2:54:31Speaker 5: I appreciate it. No.
- 2:54:32Speaker 32: I love fashion, man, I'm always I've always been into it.
- 2:54:35Speaker 32: You know, I grew up in the church, going to church,
- 2:54:38Speaker 32: so you know, you know, you always say Sunday best.
- 2:54:40Speaker 32: And then obviously a long time ago when I got
- 2:54:43Speaker 32: in the league, you had to wear suits, so you know,
- 2:54:47Speaker 32: you had to wear suits every every time you traveled.
- 2:54:49Speaker 32: So that was part of just you know, the league
- 2:54:51Speaker 32: of getting ready, just getting ready on Sunday. And I think,
- 2:54:54Speaker 32: you know, Deon Sandra says his best, right, you look good,
- 2:54:56Speaker 32: you play good. So obviously hopefully I can hold that,
- 2:54:59Speaker 32: hold that up to a a high tier that he
- 2:55:01Speaker 32: that he held.
- 2:55:01Speaker 5: It up to.
- 2:55:03Speaker 9: That's seventy six is gonna look at.
- 2:55:04Speaker 6: On you Morgan.
- 2:55:06Speaker 3: You mentioned Drake May at your press conference and just
- 2:55:10Speaker 3: talk about you know, blocking for him, and how excited
- 2:55:13Speaker 3: you are to have a young quarterback like that back.
- 2:55:16Speaker 32: You know, first of all, man, shout out to the ACC.
- 2:55:18Speaker 32: Man putting out some good products. Man, we don't get
- 2:55:20Speaker 32: enough love in the ACC. So I'm gonna go ahead
- 2:55:22Speaker 32: and say that even though we were like the oldest
- 2:55:24Speaker 32: rivalry against UVA versus you and see. But obviously the
- 2:55:28Speaker 32: things he's done, man, you know, obviously it's not easy
- 2:55:31Speaker 32: coming in as a first round quarterback and not playing
- 2:55:34Speaker 32: right away. You have to, you know, look yourself in
- 2:55:36Speaker 32: the mirror and humble yourself on those things. And obviously
- 2:55:39Speaker 32: talking to him today, man, beautiful soul, Man, beautiful guy, Ben,
- 2:55:43Speaker 32: beautiful soul. Just what he brings to the table is humbleness.
- 2:55:46Speaker 32: Is the first thing that you you notice, Man, you
- 2:55:48Speaker 32: notice from him, just the humbleness that he has. And
- 2:55:50Speaker 32: then just the gritty, right, just the gritty of just
- 2:55:53Speaker 32: playing the game.
- 2:55:54Speaker 28: Man.
- 2:55:54Speaker 5: He runs around, he moves around.
- 2:55:56Speaker 32: And obviously I played with a quarterback that probably does
- 2:56:00Speaker 32: is the best of running running quarterbacks and Lamar Jackson.
- 2:56:03Speaker 32: So I'm obviously I have a knack for knowing where
- 2:56:06Speaker 32: the quarterback is at. And I just look forward to
- 2:56:09Speaker 32: just you know, obviously learning from him, obviously, you know,
- 2:56:12Speaker 32: learning from him, and then obviously you know, sprinkling some
- 2:56:14Speaker 32: of my knowledge in there as well, and just you know,
- 2:56:16Speaker 32: obviously just getting the five offensive lineman, you know, the
- 2:56:19Speaker 32: five offensive lineman that we go out there. We have
- 2:56:21Speaker 32: to work together because you know, the five office lineman
- 2:56:24Speaker 32: and the quarterback. We never leave the field. We don't
- 2:56:25Speaker 32: get water breaks, we don't get to tap our homes
- 2:56:27Speaker 32: and say hey, coach, can I go tie my shoe?
- 2:56:30Speaker 32: So we got to be out there, and so it's
- 2:56:31Speaker 32: five equal ones. I said this last year on a podcast.
- 2:56:34Speaker 32: I said, man, you know, when you look at the
- 2:56:36Speaker 32: offensive line, you want it. It's like a shoe string
- 2:56:38Speaker 32: going through a shoe. You want to go through it.
- 2:56:40Speaker 32: You want the shoe string to go through the sneaker
- 2:56:41Speaker 32: as fall as flawless as possible. And that just builds camaraderie,
- 2:56:45Speaker 32: just building chemistry, trusting one another, accountability, getting to know
- 2:56:48Speaker 32: each other off the field. So when you get on
- 2:56:50Speaker 32: the field, you have no question in a doubt that
- 2:56:52Speaker 32: this guy is ready to.
- 2:56:53Speaker 5: Go to war with you or you.
- 2:56:54Speaker 3: I mentioned you talked to Drake today. Yep, what was
- 2:56:57Speaker 3: that conversation? Was it Is he here in person or
- 2:56:59Speaker 3: is it over?
- 2:57:00Speaker 5: No, he was here in person.
- 2:57:01Speaker 34: Man.
- 2:57:01Speaker 32: I saw him in the in the in the cafeteria, Man,
- 2:57:03Speaker 32: and he came up and he was just like, hey, Man,
- 2:57:05Speaker 32: excited to have you. Man, Ready to get to work man.
- 2:57:07Speaker 32: And obviously, Man, you know, he has some big things
- 2:57:10Speaker 32: in front of him going on. You know, he told
- 2:57:12Speaker 32: me he's like he's getting married in June. So I
- 2:57:13Speaker 32: was like, congratulations, man, So he's he's sitting it out
- 2:57:17Speaker 32: of the park man. You know, I look forward to
- 2:57:18Speaker 32: just getting getting to work with him, man and picking
- 2:57:21Speaker 32: his brain. And obviously he was drafted high for a reason,
- 2:57:25Speaker 32: and obviously the talent speaks for itself. So it's obviously
- 2:57:27Speaker 32: just getting him out there, getting comfortable, knowing that he's
- 2:57:30Speaker 32: protected up front, and you know it's gonna be a
- 2:57:33Speaker 32: great deal.
- 2:57:34Speaker 6: Well, we're getting the wrap up signed because we know
- 2:57:36Speaker 6: you're busy. It's been a world war today.
- 2:57:38Speaker 5: We appreciate you, No, I appreciate you man. Thank you.
- 2:57:40Speaker 5: This won't be this won't be the last time time.
- 2:57:43Speaker 6: You want to do a podcast. We'll get let's do it.
- 2:57:45Speaker 5: Let's let's get it going. Let's get it going.
- 2:57:47Speaker 6: But we look forward to watching you this year.
- 2:57:49Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I appreciate it. Man, thank you, always appreciate you.
- 2:57:54Speaker 30: Guys.
- 2:57:54Speaker 6: Welcome Morgan, Moses, thanks a lot. All right, right tackle
- 2:58:03Speaker 6: for the New England Patriots.
- 2:58:04Speaker 5: There you go, There we go.
- 2:58:05Speaker 4: As you can tell, Alex made it in so she
- 2:58:07Speaker 4: can there, she can find out exactly where where those came.
- 2:58:11Speaker 5: We all just want to pile in and go home
- 2:58:12Speaker 5: with him and let him.
- 2:58:13Speaker 6: I love where I'm looking for him my life.
- 2:58:16Speaker 8: Cot Now it's you know, having watched the line the
- 2:58:18Speaker 8: last couple of years, that that's the kind of guy
- 2:58:20Speaker 8: you need in that room too, you know.
- 2:58:22Speaker 4: I like how you know, not that I you know,
- 2:58:25Speaker 4: it's a weird little thing, but Fred just taking ownership
- 2:58:28Speaker 4: of like you know where was unanimous. I don't recall it.
- 2:58:32Speaker 4: I recall being an island.
- 2:58:33Speaker 9: I thought he was going to Paul his flowers.
- 2:58:35Speaker 6: You were the one, yeah, the unanimous.
- 2:58:37Speaker 4: You were a favorite for everybody. No, no, no, no,
- 2:58:39Speaker 4: you were Paul's favorite.
- 2:58:41Speaker 8: Well first, but you know after we heard them all,
- 2:58:43Speaker 8: you know, no, I but I mean I was, you know,
- 2:58:46Speaker 8: maybe slightly behind Paul, but everybody, everybody like yesterday, I mean,
- 2:58:50Speaker 8: you know, just what a guy you can see why
- 2:58:52Speaker 8: as a as a player, you'd love to have him
- 2:58:54Speaker 8: as a teammate, especially because he's a monster and you
- 2:58:57Speaker 8: protect you, you know.
- 2:59:01Speaker 3: Sitting next to good friend Bob Soci and him and
- 2:59:04Speaker 3: I looked at each other and were like, that's a tackle.
- 2:59:07Speaker 4: That's an offense, and that's part of what I was
- 2:59:09Speaker 4: getting at, Like, yeah, I think the guy is ridiculously impressive.
- 2:59:12Speaker 4: You guys all heard it. You heard it twice now
- 2:59:14Speaker 4: because you heard him at the podium and hear him
- 2:59:16Speaker 4: again in person. That's all great. But if he can't play,
- 2:59:20Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. This guy can play. He's thirty four
- 2:59:23Speaker 4: years old, he's been a tackle in this league for
- 2:59:24Speaker 4: a long time, and he started a lot of games,
- 2:59:27Speaker 4: so he brings both. That's just I'm really looking forward to.
- 2:59:31Speaker 5: You know.
- 2:59:31Speaker 6: He reminds us that he did play in front of
- 2:59:34Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson.
- 2:59:34Speaker 4: That was I think that was great.
- 2:59:36Speaker 6: That's the guys all over.
- 2:59:38Speaker 4: I have a knack for knowing where the quarterback is
- 2:59:41Speaker 4: and that was one of the things that I think
- 2:59:43Speaker 4: was a problem last year for Drake is because he's
- 2:59:46Speaker 4: so elusive and mobile. I think there were times that
- 2:59:50Speaker 4: he sort of scrambled himself into trouble because of it.
- 2:59:53Speaker 8: I had one more question for him that I didn't
- 2:59:55Speaker 8: get to ask, But it just seems he talked a
- 2:59:56Speaker 8: lot about players and coaches that mentored him younger, earlier
- 2:59:59Speaker 8: in his career, and it seems like he's taking a
- 3:00:02Speaker 8: lot of uh satisfaction not of being able to do
- 3:00:04Speaker 8: that himself now and pass that knowledge on to the
- 3:00:07Speaker 8: next generation, which, as we've been talking about going back
- 3:00:10Speaker 8: the last three hours, that's what this team needs with
- 3:00:12Speaker 8: their young offensive one.
- 3:00:12Speaker 6: All right, we'll do one more call and we're gonna
- 3:00:14Speaker 6: wrap it up. We Uh, one of the longest shows
- 3:00:17Speaker 6: we've done other than Draft night. Cam's in Providence. What's up, Cam?
- 3:00:22Speaker 37: How's it going, guys? How's it going?
- 3:00:24Speaker 6: Okay?
- 3:00:26Speaker 34: So my question is, what do you think there's our
- 3:00:29Speaker 34: biggest strength in weakness weaknesses on the rosterick before an
- 3:00:32Speaker 34: NFL draft.
- 3:00:33Speaker 6: What's our biggest weakness on the roster right now?
- 3:00:36Speaker 9: Left tackle?
- 3:00:36Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 3:00:37Speaker 3: Left tackle would.
- 3:00:39Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I I'm not gonna argue with
- 3:00:41Speaker 4: your offense.
- 3:00:43Speaker 6: Do you guys think so?
- 3:00:44Speaker 37: Do you guys think that we have an offensive draft
- 3:00:47Speaker 37: or do we focus more in the middle.
- 3:00:49Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be best players available.
- 3:00:53Speaker 9: Bets.
- 3:00:54Speaker 6: Tell me who's gonna who's gonna get drafted before us,
- 3:00:56Speaker 6: and then we have a better idea of who we're
- 3:00:58Speaker 6: gonna draft.
- 3:01:00Speaker 4: Like, even though I think offense is the biggest need,
- 3:01:03Speaker 4: just a complete shot in the dark hypothetical, Abdual Carter
- 3:01:07Speaker 4: is available at four, I would take him.
- 3:01:09Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 3:01:10Speaker 4: I don't see how you can pass him.
- 3:01:11Speaker 6: Up unless Travis Hunter is also there.
- 3:01:13Speaker 4: I would still take it.
- 3:01:14Speaker 6: You have really, Oh, you would take Carter over Hunter.
- 3:01:18Speaker 4: He's the number one pick in the draft, if I'm okay,
- 3:01:20Speaker 4: if I'm picking, does everyone agree with that? That's me?
- 3:01:22Speaker 6: I know, does everyone agree with that?
- 3:01:24Speaker 5: Yeah? I think so.
- 3:01:24Speaker 4: Really Okay, I'm not sure I do the dog part
- 3:01:29Speaker 4: of the dog.
- 3:01:30Speaker 6: Yeah he is. I think he's the best players, certainly
- 3:01:33Speaker 6: the best defensive player in the draft. And I don't
- 3:01:37Speaker 6: know the Hunter though it intrigues me the Hunter.
- 3:01:39Speaker 9: Sure, yeah he does.
- 3:01:40Speaker 8: I mean, and he might ultimately end up being the
- 3:01:42Speaker 8: choice if he said, I like your take yesterday.
- 3:01:45Speaker 4: You know you publish that.
- 3:01:47Speaker 6: Okay, I'm not gonna I won't.
- 3:01:48Speaker 4: Spoil it, all right, No, I would just say they
- 3:01:51Speaker 4: were responsible. Question I know about it. No, I'm just
- 3:01:56Speaker 4: gonna tell Evan right now, he's not gonna like that.
- 3:01:58Speaker 4: I know Evan well enough.
- 3:02:00Speaker 8: I would just say, though it feels like they're going
- 3:02:01Speaker 8: to have to draft the tackle, I would love them
- 3:02:03Speaker 8: just to always take a flyer on a wide receiver,
- 3:02:05Speaker 8: one that's fast, please. And I just think the running
- 3:02:08Speaker 8: back and tight end classes are intriguing now. Resigning Austin Hooper,
- 3:02:11Speaker 8: I don't know for sure if you need to necessarily,
- 3:02:13Speaker 8: but I would definitely try to tap the running back class,
- 3:02:16Speaker 8: and that's the offensive side of the ball. Defensively, I
- 3:02:18Speaker 8: think you got to find an edge guy.
- 3:02:20Speaker 9: You got to find an.
- 3:02:21Speaker 8: Edge guy, and after that, you know, I think you're
- 3:02:23Speaker 8: free to you know, is there a free safety that
- 3:02:25Speaker 8: you like? Is there a developmental linebacker behind you know,
- 3:02:28Speaker 8: Bentley's gonna be a free agent next year. Maybe that's
- 3:02:31Speaker 8: going to be a position in transition, trying to get
- 3:02:33Speaker 8: back on like we talked about, Paul, you know this
- 3:02:35Speaker 8: guy leaves.
- 3:02:36Speaker 9: We've got a guy waiting in the wings.
- 3:02:37Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 3:02:38Speaker 3: I definitely still agree with you du said running back
- 3:02:41Speaker 3: and tight end, even though you seem to have three
- 3:02:43Speaker 3: tight ends now on the roster. I do wonder if
- 3:02:46Speaker 3: Jane Bell transitions to more of a full back h
- 3:02:49Speaker 3: back type of role under Josh McDaniels, and that would
- 3:02:52Speaker 3: free up another traditional tight end spot there. Last couple
- 3:02:56Speaker 3: of years with McDaniels, they did carry three tight ends
- 3:02:59Speaker 3: plus a full back a couple of those years, So
- 3:03:01Speaker 3: you're really talking about four guys in that room. So
- 3:03:04Speaker 3: maybe it's that's how they kind of give that developmental
- 3:03:07Speaker 3: tight end reps even though they already have three guys
- 3:03:10Speaker 3: in that room. But I think it's a conversation of just,
- 3:03:12Speaker 3: you know, for biggest need, what's more like, what is
- 3:03:16Speaker 3: the biggest hole in terms of if you had to
- 3:03:18Speaker 3: play a game tomorrow, you know, do you feel better
- 3:03:20Speaker 3: about having three or four decent receivers or average receivers,
- 3:03:25Speaker 3: below average receivers versus having a below average tackle? You
- 3:03:28Speaker 3: know which one are you living with more? I just
- 3:03:31Speaker 3: think maybe you live with the receivers more just because
- 3:03:33Speaker 3: of Drake, Like I feel like Drake Maken just make
- 3:03:36Speaker 3: plays that other quarterbacks can't sometimes, so maybe you can
- 3:03:39Speaker 3: get away with it.
- 3:03:40Speaker 12: All.
- 3:03:40Speaker 6: Right, Well, it was a good show, a good day
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- 3:03:49Speaker 6: between now and then.
- 3:03:50Speaker 5: You never know.
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