Latest / Andy Stanley Sermons / Andy Stanley - Why Is There Suffering In The World
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- 0:00Speaker 1: So I think C. S.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Lewis was spot on when he wrote these famous words.
- 0:04Speaker 2: He wrote, God whispers to us and our pleasures, speaks in.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Our conscience, but shouts in our pain.
- 0:12Speaker 2: And then for the next few minutes, I want to
- 0:13Speaker 2: talk about how he completes this thought. You may have
- 0:16Speaker 2: read this before. It is talking about pain. Pain is
- 0:19Speaker 2: his megaphone to rouse a deaf world. And maybe that's
- 0:24Speaker 2: your story. You were going along kind of minding your
- 0:27Speaker 2: own business. You hadn't given God a thought in maybe
- 0:29Speaker 2: many years, or maybe ever, and then you got that call,
- 0:32Speaker 2: You felt that pain, you got that bad news, You
- 0:36Speaker 2: realize your life would never be the same again, and
- 0:38Speaker 2: you found yourself looking up.
- 0:40Speaker 1: And then you found.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Yourself face to face with a God you'd never believed
- 0:44Speaker 2: in before that perhaps you had abandoned in childhood and
- 0:47Speaker 2: you've been believing ever since. That pain was in fact
- 0:50Speaker 2: the megaphone that got your attention. Or maybe your story
- 0:54Speaker 2: is the opposite of that pain in the world, or
- 0:56Speaker 2: maybe personal suffering caused you to doubt God.
- 0:59Speaker 1: It's the thing that called you to lose faith.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting that people with identical experiences or near
- 1:04Speaker 2: identical experiences can arrive at different conclusions about faith in
- 1:08Speaker 2: God when it comes to their experience with pain. That's
- 1:12Speaker 2: what I want to talk about for the next few minutes. Now,
- 1:15Speaker 2: you may be familiar with this name, Admiral Jim Stockdale.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Admiral Jim Stockdale.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Admiral Jim Stockdale actually ran for Vice president back in
- 1:23Speaker 2: the nineties. But what he's most famous for was he
- 1:27Speaker 2: was a pow during the Vietnam where he was actually
- 1:30Speaker 2: a vice admiral in the Navy and he was the
- 1:33Speaker 2: highest ranking This is amazing. He was the highest ranking
- 1:36Speaker 2: the United States military officer to be imprisoned in the
- 1:40Speaker 2: Hanoi Hilton Prisoner of War camp during the Vietnam War.
- 1:43Speaker 1: In fact, he was a pow for eight years.
- 1:46Speaker 2: He was tortured over twenty times, and one of the
- 1:49Speaker 2: reasons he was tortured he refused to participate.
- 1:52Speaker 1: In the North Vietnamese propaganda machine.
- 1:54Speaker 2: He actually took a razor and disfigured his own face
- 1:57Speaker 2: so they would not put him on camera. Well years
- 2:01Speaker 2: later after he was out and accomplished some extraordinary things.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Jim Collins interviewed him when he was writing his book
- 2:07Speaker 2: Good to Great. Some of you've read that book, and
- 2:09Speaker 2: in the interview, of course, Jim Collins asked the question
- 2:13Speaker 2: that we would all ask. He said, how in the
- 2:16Speaker 2: world did you survive eight years in a pow camp?
- 2:20Speaker 2: And here's what he said. He said, I never lost
- 2:23Speaker 2: faith in the end of the story. I never lost
- 2:28Speaker 2: faith in the end of the story. This is such
- 2:30Speaker 2: a powerful statement to me. I thought about just reading
- 2:33Speaker 2: this and then we could just close in prayer. This
- 2:34Speaker 2: is such an extraordinary, extraordinary statement. But he continues, and
- 2:38Speaker 2: he explains, he said the following.
- 2:40Speaker 1: I never doubted not only that I.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Would get out, but also that I would prevail in
- 2:47Speaker 2: the end and turn the experience into the defining event
- 2:50Speaker 2: of my life, which in retrospect I would not trade.
- 2:55Speaker 1: That's amazing.
- 2:56Speaker 2: And then Jim Collins asked him this question. He said, well,
- 2:59Speaker 2: you made it out. Tell me about the people who
- 3:01Speaker 2: didn't make it out. Who who didn't make it out?
- 3:04Speaker 2: And his answer surprised everybody. He said, Oh, that's easy.
- 3:08Speaker 2: The optimist. The optimist. Jim said, what do you mean
- 3:11Speaker 2: by optimist?
- 3:12Speaker 1: Here's what he said.
- 3:13Speaker 2: He said, the optimists were the ones who said, well,
- 3:15Speaker 2: we're going to be out by Christmas, and Christmas would come,
- 3:18Speaker 2: and Christmas would go, and then they'd say, well, we're
- 3:22Speaker 2: going to be out by Easter, and Easter would come,
- 3:25Speaker 2: and Easter would go, and then Thanksgiving and then it
- 3:27Speaker 2: would be Christmas again. And he went on to say this,
- 3:32Speaker 2: those men died of a broken heart. And then he
- 3:36Speaker 2: turned to Jim Collins. He said, what I'm about to
- 3:38Speaker 2: say is so very important. What I'm about to say
- 3:41Speaker 2: next is the lesson to take away from all of this.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Here's what he said.
- 3:45Speaker 2: He said, you must never confuse faith that you will
- 3:49Speaker 2: prevail in the end. You must never confuse faith that
- 3:52Speaker 2: you will prevail in the end, which you can never
- 3:54Speaker 2: afford to lose. You can never afford to lose that
- 3:56Speaker 2: you are going to prevail in the end. But you
- 3:58Speaker 2: can't confuse that kind of confidence in faith with the
- 4:02Speaker 2: discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality,
- 4:08Speaker 2: whatever that might be. Now, this statement is sometimes referred
- 4:13Speaker 2: to as the Stockdale paradox. And you know what a
- 4:15Speaker 2: paradox is. A paradox is a statement that on the
- 4:17Speaker 2: surface doesn't seem to make any sense, and then you
- 4:19Speaker 2: explore it further and it actually proves to be true.
- 4:22Speaker 2: And the paradox that he's pointing to. The reason this
- 4:25Speaker 2: is called the paradox is the paradox is to never
- 4:27Speaker 2: give up hope, but never deceive yourself about current reality.
- 4:31Speaker 2: You never give up hope, but at the same time,
- 4:33Speaker 2: you don't refuse to face the things that you don't
- 4:36Speaker 2: want to face, the things that would cause you to
- 4:38Speaker 2: possibly lose hope. You hold both of them. You never
- 4:40Speaker 2: give up hope and you never deceive yourself about current reality.
- 4:45Speaker 2: And the reason I bring that up is that Christianity,
- 4:47Speaker 2: our faith, actually comes prepackaged with a similar paradox.
- 4:52Speaker 1: And the similar paradox is this that we have a.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Future hope and it is tethered to a brutal fact.
- 5:00Speaker 2: To use his term, that we have a future hope
- 5:03Speaker 2: and it is tetherto it comes complete with a brutal fact.
- 5:07Speaker 2: And the problem is for many of us as Christians,
- 5:09Speaker 2: we get so focused on the hope that we try
- 5:12Speaker 2: to pray away, faith away and obey away the brutal
- 5:16Speaker 2: fact that is part of the package. In fact, some
- 5:20Speaker 2: versions of Christianity, maybe you were raised with one of
- 5:22Speaker 2: these versions, some versions of Christianity just deny the brutal fact.
- 5:27Speaker 2: So let's begin with that. The brutal fact of Christianity.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Here it is.
- 5:32Speaker 2: It's the one that's easy to lose sight of, especially
- 5:34Speaker 2: when things are going good. But if you lose sight
- 5:37Speaker 2: of it when things are going well, it creates confusion,
- 5:41Speaker 2: it creates faithlessness, and it creates despair when things turn
- 5:45Speaker 2: upside down.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Here's the brutal fact.
- 5:48Speaker 2: There is a cause and effect relationship between sin and suffering.
- 5:52Speaker 2: And we know this on a personal level because all
- 5:54Speaker 2: of us have done things that we consider bad and
- 5:56Speaker 2: we suffered because of it. We have all experienced the
- 5:58Speaker 2: pain that is associated with certain behaviors. If you're a
- 6:02Speaker 2: Jesus follower and use the word sin, you know that
- 6:05Speaker 2: you have experienced the consequences, the personal consequences of personal sin.
- 6:09Speaker 1: So we all get that. But the brute fact, the.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Fact that it's so difficult for many people to get
- 6:15Speaker 2: their mind and hearts around, is this that the relationship,
- 6:18Speaker 2: the cause effect and relationship between sin and suffering goes
- 6:21Speaker 2: beyond personal behavior. It is a global reality. The brutal
- 6:25Speaker 2: fact is that there is a global relationship between sin
- 6:29Speaker 2: and suffering.
- 6:30Speaker 1: This is the part we resist, and.
- 6:32Speaker 2: The reason we resist it is because it's not fair,
- 6:35Speaker 2: and it takes everything out of our control. But the
- 6:39Speaker 2: fact is that when sin entered the world, it held
- 6:43Speaker 2: the door for sorrow, death, illness, and despair that they
- 6:49Speaker 2: snuck in right behind Sin. When sin entered the world,
- 6:53Speaker 2: death came in along with it and Jesus. The interesting
- 6:56Speaker 2: thing is when you read the New Testament, Jesus assumed
- 6:59Speaker 2: this worldview. Jesus assumed this brutal fact. The message of
- 7:03Speaker 2: Jesus was a message of hope that never lost sight
- 7:07Speaker 2: of the brute fact or the brutal fact that sin
- 7:10Speaker 2: was making its way through the world and would touch
- 7:13Speaker 2: every single human being. This was built into the paradigm
- 7:17Speaker 2: that he lived with and that he embraced, and that
- 7:19Speaker 2: he left us with. In the Gospel, so a couple
- 7:21Speaker 2: of examples might help. John tells us about a time
- 7:25Speaker 2: that Jesus and the disciples were going along, and well,
- 7:28Speaker 2: here's how John wrote it. He said, as we or
- 7:31Speaker 2: he went along, he talking about Jesus saw a blind
- 7:34Speaker 2: man who'd been blind from birth, and his disciples asked Jesus, Rabbi,
- 7:39Speaker 2: who sinned this man or his parents that he was
- 7:41Speaker 2: born blind. So they understood that there's a relationship between
- 7:45Speaker 2: blindness or illness, and sin. But they thought it was
- 7:47Speaker 2: a one to one correlation. Their assumption looks something like this,
- 7:50Speaker 2: that good things happened to good people, bad things happened
- 7:54Speaker 2: to sinners.
- 7:55Speaker 1: What they did not understand or had lost sight.
- 7:57Speaker 2: Of, the fact is that there is a global relation
- 8:00Speaker 2: ship between sin and suffering, between sin, sorrow and death.
- 8:03Speaker 2: They didn't seem to understand that connection. So Jesus responds
- 8:07Speaker 2: this way. He says, well, you're wrong. Neither this man
- 8:10Speaker 2: nor his parents sin, said Jesus, not meaning they'd never sin,
- 8:14Speaker 2: but meaning no one's personal sin was responsible for this
- 8:17Speaker 2: man's blindness. This man was not blind because of personal sin.
- 8:21Speaker 2: But this man was blind because sin was wreaking havoc
- 8:25Speaker 2: in the world. That the presence of sin and the
- 8:28Speaker 2: world resulted in illness and resulted in this man's blindness.
- 8:32Speaker 2: It was the consequence, the global consequence of sin in
- 8:35Speaker 2: the world. He goes on and says, this, but this happened,
- 8:37Speaker 2: This blindness happened so that the works of God. This
- 8:41Speaker 2: is so amazing, so that the works of God might
- 8:44Speaker 2: be displayed in him. Jesus said, the purpose for this
- 8:48Speaker 2: blindness that was caused by the global effects of sin.
- 8:51Speaker 2: It's going to turn into an illustration of the fact
- 8:54Speaker 2: that I, the Son of God, have power over the
- 8:57Speaker 2: global consequences of sin, which infers that I have power
- 9:02Speaker 2: over sin, that I am the solution to the world's
- 9:07Speaker 2: greatest problem, the problem that plagues every single one of
- 9:12Speaker 2: us every single day. That God would use his power
- 9:18Speaker 2: over the global consequences of sin to draw attention to himself.
- 9:22Speaker 2: He goes on and he says this. He preaches a
- 9:24Speaker 2: little sermon. He says, as long as it is day,
- 9:27Speaker 2: we must do the works of him who sent me
- 9:29Speaker 2: talking about God. But that day is coming to an end.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Night is coming when no one can work. And of
- 9:35Speaker 2: course that they look at each other, like does anyone
- 9:37Speaker 2: know what he's talking about? So Jesus clarifies it for him,
- 9:40Speaker 2: and he makes this statement, while I am in the world,
- 9:44Speaker 2: I am the light of the world. While I am
- 9:47Speaker 2: in the world, I am going to demonstrate my power
- 9:50Speaker 2: over the global consequences of sin, because God has power
- 9:53Speaker 2: over the global consequences of sin. While I am in
- 9:57Speaker 2: the world, I'm going to show you that I have
- 9:59Speaker 2: come to.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Address the root issue.
- 10:01Speaker 2: There is hope, but in the meantime, there is a
- 10:04Speaker 2: brute fact you must never lose sight of, because if
- 10:07Speaker 2: you lose sight of the brute fact, you will eventually
- 10:10Speaker 2: lose your faith. On another occasion. In fact, this is
- 10:13Speaker 2: a really familiar story. We actually talked about this a
- 10:16Speaker 2: few weeks ago. Jesus is in someone's large home.
- 10:19Speaker 1: He's teaching.
- 10:20Speaker 2: There's so many people there that people are outside trying
- 10:23Speaker 2: to listen.
- 10:23Speaker 1: You'll remember this story.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Some men show up with a friend of theirs that's paralyzed.
- 10:27Speaker 2: They want Jesus to heal their friend. They can't get
- 10:30Speaker 2: Jesus in front of their friends, so they climb up
- 10:33Speaker 2: on the roof of the house, dig through the roof
- 10:35Speaker 2: of the house, and they lower this man on a
- 10:37Speaker 2: cot right at the feet of Jesus.
- 10:39Speaker 1: And you'll remember this.
- 10:40Speaker 2: When Jesus saw their faith, they had faith that Jesus
- 10:43Speaker 2: could heal their friend. When Jesus saw their faith, he
- 10:46Speaker 2: said to the paralyzed man, and no one was expecting this.
- 10:49Speaker 2: He said to the paralyzed man, son, your sins are forgiven,
- 10:54Speaker 2: to which he could have responded, that's not what I
- 10:57Speaker 2: dropped in for right, And his friends up on the
- 10:59Speaker 2: roof are like that, that's not why we dug a
- 11:01Speaker 2: hole in the roof. We did not bring him here
- 11:03Speaker 2: to be forgiven of his sins. So why would Jesus
- 11:05Speaker 2: say this? Because Jesus is pointing to this fact that
- 11:08Speaker 2: there is a relationship between sin and illness, sin and sickness,
- 11:12Speaker 2: not personal sin, but existence and the presence of sin
- 11:16Speaker 2: in the world. Now, when Jesus said this, the religious
- 11:19Speaker 2: leaders immediately kind of went berserk. They were like, wait
- 11:21Speaker 2: a minute, he's blaspheming who who can forgive sins?
- 11:25Speaker 1: But God alone? Here he is putting himself in the
- 11:27Speaker 1: place of God. And Jesus smiles because this was the point.
- 11:32Speaker 2: He smiles, and he asks them a question, not a
- 11:34Speaker 2: trick question. He asked, which is easier to say, Which
- 11:39Speaker 2: is easier to say to this paralyzed man, your sins
- 11:41Speaker 2: are forgiven?
- 11:42Speaker 1: Anyone can say that, right.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Which is easier to say to this man, your sins
- 11:46Speaker 2: are forgiven? Or to say, get up, take up your mat,
- 11:50Speaker 2: and walk, because the two are related.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Sin and illness are related.
- 11:55Speaker 2: Not this man's personal sin, but the presence of sin
- 11:58Speaker 2: in the world is why this man is paralyzed.
- 12:01Speaker 1: And so Jesus.
- 12:03Speaker 2: Responded with this, but I want you to know. But
- 12:06Speaker 2: I want you to know that the Son of Man,
- 12:08Speaker 2: here it is, has authority on earth to forgive sin.
- 12:11Speaker 1: I want you to know that the.
- 12:13Speaker 2: Son of Man has authority on earth to reverse the
- 12:17Speaker 2: consequences of the global impact of sin on the world.
- 12:21Speaker 1: I want you to know who you are dealing with.
- 12:24Speaker 1: But how does he prove that?
- 12:26Speaker 2: How do you prove you have the power to forgive
- 12:29Speaker 2: sin and the consequences associated with sin? Will you reverse
- 12:33Speaker 2: the consequences of sin? Not the man's personal sin, the
- 12:37Speaker 2: sin that impacts all of us, the sin that touches everyone.
- 12:42Speaker 2: And he said to the man, get up and go home.
- 12:46Speaker 2: And he did, and the crowd was in awe because
- 12:49Speaker 2: something greater than the temple was here, someone, someone, more
- 12:56Speaker 2: powerful than the global consequences of sin have arrived. Then
- 13:02Speaker 2: years later, the Apostle Paul comes along, and the Apostle
- 13:05Speaker 2: Paul kind of teases this idea out for us. Instead
- 13:08Speaker 2: of illustrating it like Jesus did, he explains it. And
- 13:11Speaker 2: here's how he explains it. In what we call the
- 13:13Speaker 2: Book of Romans, a letter he wrote to Christians living
- 13:16Speaker 2: in Rome. He said, here's the big idea, Christians, here's
- 13:19Speaker 2: the idea you dare not lose sight of. We have
- 13:22Speaker 2: hope tethered to a brute fact that sin has impacted
- 13:26Speaker 2: the entire world.
- 13:27Speaker 1: Here are Paul's words.
- 13:28Speaker 2: He wrote these, Therefore, just as Sin entered the world
- 13:32Speaker 2: through one man, and I have to pause and make
- 13:35Speaker 2: an observation. This is so helpful. The Apostle Paul talks
- 13:38Speaker 2: about sin as an entity. He personifies it. He treats
- 13:42Speaker 2: sin like we talk about energy or information. You can't
- 13:45Speaker 2: see energy, you can't see information, but they're everywhere. You
- 13:49Speaker 2: can't put them in a box. But it's undeniable, right,
- 13:51Speaker 2: you can't deny energy or information.
- 13:53Speaker 1: They affect everything.
- 13:54Speaker 2: And so the Apostle Paul kind of talks about sin
- 13:57Speaker 2: in the same way. It's like an entity that you
- 13:59Speaker 2: can't see, but it impacts everything, and it impacts everyone.
- 14:02Speaker 2: And he goes on and he says this, Therefore, just
- 14:04Speaker 2: as Sin entered the world through one man, and right
- 14:08Speaker 2: on the heels of sin, as soon as Sin entered
- 14:11Speaker 2: the world, sin held the door. And right behind Sin
- 14:13Speaker 2: came death through sin. And in this way, he said,
- 14:17Speaker 2: in this way, death came to all people. Death came
- 14:23Speaker 2: to all people because all sin, death and its allies
- 14:29Speaker 2: marched through the world, and you cannot pray it away,
- 14:34Speaker 2: you cannot faith it away, and you cannot.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Obey it away. This is the brute fact.
- 14:41Speaker 2: This is the reality that is hard for us to
- 14:44Speaker 2: get our minds and hearts around.
- 14:45Speaker 1: But if you divorce your.
- 14:47Speaker 2: Hope in Christ from this brute fact, you run the
- 14:50Speaker 2: risk of losing your faith. And anyone who tells you otherwise,
- 14:54Speaker 2: anyone who promises you that there's a way around this
- 14:57Speaker 2: is either trying to sell you something or they have never.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Ever read the New Testament.
- 15:01Speaker 2: They have certainly never followed Jesus through the Gospels. And
- 15:06Speaker 2: we don't like this. We don't like this because it's
- 15:09Speaker 2: not fair. But facts aren't fair. Facts are facts, and
- 15:14Speaker 2: this brute fact is absolutely true, and you have experienced
- 15:19Speaker 2: the reality of it, and in some cases, you experience
- 15:21Speaker 2: the reality of this every single day. We want there
- 15:24Speaker 2: and I get this. I'm the same way. We want
- 15:26Speaker 2: there to be a one to one correlation. We want
- 15:29Speaker 2: good things to happen to good people, and we want
- 15:31Speaker 2: bad things to happen to not sow good people so
- 15:33Speaker 2: they will become good people. But you're an adult. You've
- 15:37Speaker 2: lived long enough to know that is not how the
- 15:38Speaker 2: world works. And here's what you need to know. Jesus assumed.
- 15:42Speaker 2: Jesus taught that's not how the world works. And if
- 15:46Speaker 2: you lost faith, this is so huge. If you lost
- 15:49Speaker 2: faith because somehow sin and suffering did not line up
- 15:52Speaker 2: with your Christian theology, perhaps you had the wrong theology
- 15:56Speaker 2: if you cling to that myth that somehow only good
- 15:59Speaker 2: things happen to good people and bad things happen to
- 16:01Speaker 2: bad people. If you cling to that myth, your faith
- 16:03Speaker 2: will eventually be ground into dust. But here's what you
- 16:07Speaker 2: need to know Christians. Christians have never and Christians have
- 16:11Speaker 2: never believed that God doesn't allow bad things to happen
- 16:14Speaker 2: to good people.
- 16:14Speaker 1: In fact, just the opposite.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Christians believe that the worst possible thing happen to the
- 16:20Speaker 2: best possible person.
- 16:24Speaker 1: So should we resist evil? Yes? Should we fight and
- 16:28Speaker 1: try to solve the problems of the world. Yes.
- 16:31Speaker 2: Should we try to alleviate pain and suffering in the world.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Yes?
- 16:35Speaker 2: Will we win that battle in the end? No, because
- 16:39Speaker 2: that is not our ultimate battle.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Does that mean God doesn't care?
- 16:43Speaker 2: No?
- 16:43Speaker 1: Read the Gospels. We know God cares.
- 16:46Speaker 2: But this is not the end of the story. And
- 16:49Speaker 2: that is not the end of the story. There is hope,
- 16:52Speaker 2: but our hope is not in solving the global consequences
- 16:56Speaker 2: of sinning the world. Our hope is in the person
- 16:58Speaker 2: who came to address the old ultimate issue, which is
- 17:01Speaker 2: not illness. It's not sickness, it's not pain. The ultimate
- 17:06Speaker 2: issue is sin. And the brute fact of Christianity is
- 17:10Speaker 2: there is a relationship between sin, sorrow, and ultimately death.
- 17:16Speaker 1: The Apostle Paul continues.
- 17:17Speaker 2: He says, this for if this is so big, if
- 17:22Speaker 2: by the trespass or the sin of one man, talking
- 17:25Speaker 2: about Adam, death rained through that one man, And don't
- 17:29Speaker 2: miss this, The Apostle Paul says, Look, hey, I'm not
- 17:31Speaker 2: pulling any punches. You live in a world where death reigns,
- 17:36Speaker 2: death rains. He says, But if sin entered the world
- 17:39Speaker 2: and through one man, death rain through that one man,
- 17:42Speaker 2: here's the good news. How much more, how much more
- 17:45Speaker 2: will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and
- 17:49Speaker 2: of the gift of righteousness.
- 17:51Speaker 1: And let me define these terms for you. This is huge.
- 17:53Speaker 2: In this context, Grace is a reference to the ability
- 17:56Speaker 2: to endure, and righteousness is a reference to the fact
- 17:59Speaker 2: that our relationship with God is secure. He said, if
- 18:03Speaker 2: death reigned through the one man Adam, who brought sin
- 18:05Speaker 2: into the world, how much more will those of us
- 18:08Speaker 2: who have the ability to endure and a relationship with
- 18:12Speaker 2: our heavenly Father that is secure. How much more then
- 18:14Speaker 2: will we reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
- 18:20Speaker 1: But we reign in life. This is huge.
- 18:22Speaker 2: We reign in life by embracing this paradox. We embrace
- 18:26Speaker 2: the paradox that sin will have its way today but
- 18:30Speaker 2: not forever, that sin will have its way today but
- 18:33Speaker 2: not forever, or to paraphrase Jesus to kind of put
- 18:36Speaker 2: a spin on Jesus words, we do not reign in
- 18:38Speaker 2: life by devoting our lives to preserving our lives.
- 18:43Speaker 1: If that's the wind, you can never win.
- 18:45Speaker 2: We reign in life by following the one who offered
- 18:49Speaker 2: real life and the ultimate and final solution for sin.
- 18:54Speaker 1: And the amazing thing is this.
- 18:57Speaker 2: The New Testament authors are so clear and they're so
- 19:00Speaker 2: insistent on this that Jesus did not offer himself as
- 19:04Speaker 2: the final solution to sin from the comforts of home,
- 19:08Speaker 2: that he became one of us to experience exactly what
- 19:13Speaker 2: we experience The gospel writer John begins his gospel with
- 19:18Speaker 2: these famous words. He said this, that the word became
- 19:21Speaker 2: flesh talking about Jesus and made his dwelling among us.
- 19:26Speaker 1: He faced what we face. He felt what we felt.
- 19:30Speaker 2: The apostle Paul, he puts his spin on it. He
- 19:32Speaker 2: says it this way. He says, Jesus, being in very
- 19:35Speaker 2: nature God, think about this, that Jesus was God in
- 19:38Speaker 2: a body, did not consider equality with God something to
- 19:43Speaker 2: be used to his own advantage. In other words, Jesus
- 19:46Speaker 2: never cheated. Jesus never played the God card. Jesus experienced
- 19:51Speaker 2: life just like you experience it, just like I experienced it.
- 19:54Speaker 2: But he went even further. The apostle Paul elaborate. He says,
- 19:58Speaker 2: he humbled himself by becoming obedient. How obedient to death,
- 20:03Speaker 2: even death on a cross, That your savior faced the
- 20:08Speaker 2: ultimate consequence of sin. Death, but not just any death,
- 20:15Speaker 2: the worst kind of death. The author of Hebrews will
- 20:19Speaker 2: come along later and give us his spin on it.
- 20:22Speaker 2: Here's how he says it. He says, for we do
- 20:24Speaker 2: not have a high priest talking about Jesus, who is
- 20:27Speaker 2: unable to empathize with our weaknesses. The implication being that
- 20:33Speaker 2: weakness is a permanent part of the human condition. You
- 20:37Speaker 2: can't pray faith or obey your way beyond it. But
- 20:41Speaker 2: he says, the good news is that your high priest,
- 20:44Speaker 2: the one that you go to in prayer, understands and
- 20:47Speaker 2: can empathize.
- 20:47Speaker 1: He continues, he says this, but on the contrary, we
- 20:51Speaker 1: have a high priest who has been tempted in every
- 20:53Speaker 1: way just as we are.
- 20:56Speaker 2: And then here's the best part, he says, in the meantime,
- 21:00Speaker 2: In the meantime, here's what you're to do.
- 21:02Speaker 1: In the meantime.
- 21:03Speaker 2: You are to do exactly what your first century brothers
- 21:06Speaker 2: and sisters did as they lived in the conflict of
- 21:10Speaker 2: a future hope, but a world that was rapped by pain, illness, suffering,
- 21:15Speaker 2: and death. It's the same thing that I've seen dozens
- 21:19Speaker 2: and dozens of parents do when their children are sick, or.
- 21:23Speaker 1: When they've had to bury a child.
- 21:25Speaker 2: It's the thing I've seen dozens and dozens of brothers
- 21:27Speaker 2: and sisters.
- 21:28Speaker 1: Do when they had to bury a parent too early.
- 21:31Speaker 2: The thing I've seen hundreds of people do when they
- 21:34Speaker 2: faced extraordinary suffering or were surprised by grief or surprised
- 21:39Speaker 2: by loss.
- 21:39Speaker 1: Here is the invitation.
- 21:42Speaker 2: Here is how to live in the messy, messy middle.
- 21:46Speaker 2: Here's what the author of Hebrews says. Here is God's
- 21:49Speaker 2: promise to you. He writes, let us then approach God's
- 21:54Speaker 2: throne of grace with confidence. He may here it is,
- 22:01Speaker 2: receive mercy and find grace to help us in our
- 22:06Speaker 2: time of need.
- 22:08Speaker 1: The New Testament.
- 22:09Speaker 2: Authors had their feet firmly planted on the soil of suffering.
- 22:13Speaker 1: They understood the world we live in.
- 22:15Speaker 2: And the author of Hebrews is this when you're going
- 22:18Speaker 2: through the suffering and the pain, when you realize I'm
- 22:22Speaker 2: caught in the messy middle.
- 22:23Speaker 1: There is a hope, but there is a brute fact
- 22:25Speaker 1: that I cannot get around.
- 22:26Speaker 2: He says, you can come to your heavenly Father with confidence,
- 22:29Speaker 2: and here is God's promise to you. You will receive
- 22:32Speaker 2: mercy and you will receive grace. You will receive mercy
- 22:36Speaker 2: and you will receive grace. You will receive grace.
- 22:39Speaker 1: And mercy in your time of need.
- 22:42Speaker 2: And then once again, the apostle Paul, and think about this,
- 22:46Speaker 2: the apostle Paul, who himself was awakened by the megaphone
- 22:50Speaker 2: of pain on his way to Damascus to inflict pain
- 22:55Speaker 2: on first century Christians. Again, he puts this in context
- 22:59Speaker 2: for us when he writes these powerful words. He says,
- 23:02Speaker 2: I consider that our present sufferings, no one avoids this,
- 23:07Speaker 2: no one escapes this. I consider that our present sufferings
- 23:10Speaker 2: are not worth comparing with the glory that future tense
- 23:14Speaker 2: will be revealed in us, because we know that, we
- 23:19Speaker 2: have confidence, that we know that the whole creation has
- 23:22Speaker 2: been growing, as in the pains of childbirth, right up
- 23:26Speaker 2: to the present time. Then, he continues, he writes this,
- 23:29Speaker 2: not only so, but we ourselves who have the first
- 23:32Speaker 2: fruits of the spirit. In other words, even those of
- 23:34Speaker 2: us who are Jesus followers, we grown inwardly as we
- 23:38Speaker 2: wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of
- 23:43Speaker 2: our bodies.
- 23:44Speaker 1: And then these next words are.
- 23:46Speaker 2: So powerful, He says, with all that as a backdraw,
- 23:50Speaker 2: with all that in mind, for in this hope, for
- 23:54Speaker 2: in this hope, not in the hope that everything is
- 23:57Speaker 2: going to work out today, not in the hope that
- 23:59Speaker 2: everything is going to work out for us eventually, not
- 24:02Speaker 2: in the hope that everything's ultimately going to be fine now,
- 24:06Speaker 2: but in the ultimate hope that Jesus came to earth
- 24:10Speaker 2: not only to die for our sins, but to demonstrate
- 24:12Speaker 2: he has the power over the global consequences of sin.
- 24:16Speaker 1: And we live in the tension.
- 24:17Speaker 2: We live in the messy middle of a future hope
- 24:20Speaker 2: that we can have confidence in, while at the same
- 24:23Speaker 2: time embracing and acknowledging.
- 24:25Speaker 1: The type of world that we live in. We don't
- 24:30Speaker 1: like this, but it's true.
- 24:33Speaker 2: When sin entered the world, death was right on its heels.
- 24:40Speaker 2: And this is the age when the consequences of sin
- 24:44Speaker 2: run their course and no one, not even your savior,
- 24:51Speaker 2: was an exception.
- 24:53Speaker 1: To that rule. Did God cause it? No? Will God
- 24:58Speaker 1: use it.
- 24:59Speaker 2: Absolutely, He will use it as a wake up call
- 25:02Speaker 2: to rouse this world, to get us to look up
- 25:05Speaker 2: and regain or find for the first time, our hope.
- 25:09Speaker 1: It's a wake up call.
- 25:10Speaker 2: For anyone who has ears to hear. And one day,
- 25:16Speaker 2: one day, the world will be as we know it
- 25:18Speaker 2: should be. One day the world will be as we
- 25:21Speaker 2: know it should be. One day there will be no
- 25:23Speaker 2: more sin, no more sorrow, no more death.
- 25:26Speaker 1: But not yet, not you and not me again. C. S.
- 25:33Speaker 2: Lewis says it so eloquently when he wrote these words,
- 25:36Speaker 2: He said, if I find in myself a desire which
- 25:41Speaker 2: no experience in this world can satisfy. That is, if
- 25:44Speaker 2: I am able to imagine a better world, and there
- 25:48Speaker 2: is something in me that longs for.
- 25:50Speaker 1: That better world.
- 25:51Speaker 2: If I find within myself a desire that no experience
- 25:54Speaker 2: in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation, the
- 25:58Speaker 2: most probable explanation, is that I was made and that
- 26:04Speaker 2: you were made.
- 26:06Speaker 1: For another world.
- 26:09Speaker 2: So Admiral Stockdale was exactly right. We must never lose
- 26:15Speaker 2: faith in the end of the story. And my friends,
- 26:20Speaker 2: this is not the end. This is just the messy,
- 26:24Speaker 2: messy middle. And in this messy middle, we can have
- 26:27Speaker 2: the confidence that the New Testament authors had when they
- 26:30Speaker 2: said that we can have confidence in God.
- 26:32Speaker 1: We can have confidence that.
- 26:33Speaker 2: God loves us, that God is for us, that God
- 26:37Speaker 2: cares for us, and that God will judge sin, but
- 26:43Speaker 2: he loves those of us left in the wake of
- 26:47Speaker 2: his judgment on sin. That, as we've seen, he had
- 26:52Speaker 2: every right to just walk away, but in fact he
- 26:57Speaker 2: chose to weide in and experience this life as we experience.
- 27:02Speaker 1: It with us.
- 27:03Speaker 2: Our present sufferings, our president, our present sufferings, are nothing
- 27:07Speaker 2: to be compared with our future hope. Our present sufferings
- 27:10Speaker 2: are just another reminder of the global.
- 27:12Speaker 1: Consequences of sin.
- 27:13Speaker 2: They're just another reminder of our need for a savior,
- 27:16Speaker 2: of the world's need for a savior. Our current circumstances
- 27:22Speaker 2: are just another reminder that one day God will in
- 27:25Speaker 2: fact make all things.
- 27:29Speaker 1: New.
- 27:29Speaker 2: If I find within myself a desire that no experience
- 27:33Speaker 2: in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is
- 27:39Speaker 2: that we were made for another world s