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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcomed episode two hundred and sixty nine of the Death
- 0:03Speaker 1: of Journalism podcasts. My name is John Zigler. I'm your
- 0:05Speaker 1: host on today's show. President Trump kneels before Zoron Mondani
- 0:10Speaker 1: at the White House. More fallout from the Epstein stupidity,
- 0:14Speaker 1: the destigmatization of suicide reaches a new level of lunacy,
- 0:19Speaker 1: some significant updates on the never ending Penn State Paterno
- 0:23Speaker 1: Sandusky saga, and our tenth annual holiday interview with my
- 0:28Speaker 1: now seventh grade daughter Grace. We spent much of the
- 0:33Speaker 1: last episode of the podcast talking in great, I believe
- 0:37Speaker 1: unique detail about the insanity of the Epstein case. We'll
- 0:40Speaker 1: get to that story and some updates on it in
- 0:43Speaker 1: just a little bit, but I also spent a great
- 0:46Speaker 1: deal of time discussing what I thought at that time
- 0:51Speaker 1: was Donald Trump's worst moment, maybe ever in the White House,
- 0:55Speaker 1: certainly in two point zero his second administration, and what
- 1:00Speaker 1: I was referring to was the utterly bizarre and infuriating
- 1:06Speaker 1: situation where he hosted MBS, the leader of the Saudi
- 1:12Speaker 1: Royal family and the Saudi Arabian government. And there was
- 1:16Speaker 1: a question by an ABC reporter that was very legitimate
- 1:22Speaker 1: about MBS's role in the assassination of Jamal Koshogi, who was,
- 1:28Speaker 1: among other things, a Washington Post columnist and who was
- 1:31Speaker 1: assassinated by the Saudi Arabian government and then had his
- 1:35Speaker 1: body grotesquely dismembered, and Donald Trump leaped to the defense
- 1:42Speaker 1: of NBS, attacked the reporter, seemed to justify the murder
- 1:49Speaker 1: of Koshogi, and then later in a follow up question,
- 1:54Speaker 1: he threatened the license the broadcast license of ABC because
- 2:00Speaker 1: he didn't like the questioning of the female reporter. That
- 2:04Speaker 1: all happened just over a week ago, and it's as
- 2:09Speaker 1: if it didn't happen at all. And to me, this
- 2:13Speaker 1: is an incredibly telling situation. I often talk about sometimes
- 2:18Speaker 1: the most significant things are things that don't happen at all.
- 2:22Speaker 1: In any previous iteration of news cycles, what it would
- 2:29Speaker 1: have taken to wipe that episode off the map would
- 2:33Speaker 1: have been basically nine to eleven type stuff. It would
- 2:37Speaker 1: take a nine to eleven type news event to wipe
- 2:40Speaker 1: that from the news cycle. But we don't live in
- 2:43Speaker 1: that world anymore, especially in Trump's era, because he has
- 2:46Speaker 1: so desensitized us to total insanity and even desensitized the
- 2:52Speaker 1: so called anti Trump media that they just move on
- 2:56Speaker 1: because there's always another distraction and because people are just
- 3:00Speaker 1: tired of it. I mean, I don't think I'm ever
- 3:02Speaker 1: going to get over the President of the United States
- 3:06Speaker 1: justifying the murder without any evidence of a Washington Post
- 3:12Speaker 1: columnist basically saying he deserved it. Things happened, I mean,
- 3:15Speaker 1: that was the quote from Trump. Things happened. A lot
- 3:18Speaker 1: of people didn't like him defend a guy whose country,
- 3:23Speaker 1: speaking of nine to eleven, was the source of fifteen
- 3:27Speaker 1: of the nineteen hijackers. And there's still to this day
- 3:30Speaker 1: a lot of questions about what the Saudi Arabian government knew,
- 3:33Speaker 1: at the very least knew about what was happening in
- 3:36Speaker 1: the build up to nine to eleven, and perhaps even
- 3:40Speaker 1: a cover up of what happened on nine to eleven.
- 3:43Speaker 1: But the idea that the President United States could do
- 3:47Speaker 1: this and then threatened the broadcast license of ABC, which
- 3:52Speaker 1: is a free speech appic and I find basically just
- 3:55Speaker 1: as offensive as the justification of the murder of Kashogi,
- 4:00Speaker 1: and then for it to not be a news story
- 4:03Speaker 1: like twelve minutes after it happened is just amazing. And
- 4:06Speaker 1: I think it's worthy of at least being acknowledged on
- 4:10Speaker 1: this The Death of Journalism podcasts. Well, we've had a
- 4:13Speaker 1: somewhat similar situation occur in the days after that whole mess,
- 4:19Speaker 1: where on Friday of last week, Trump posted the new
- 4:23Speaker 1: mayor of New York City, the incoming Mayor of New
- 4:25Speaker 1: York Cities or on Mandanni. And this was a situation
- 4:29Speaker 1: that had a lot of fanfare because Trump had made
- 4:32Speaker 1: many very derogatory and I believe accurate comments about Mandannie.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Even threatened to have New York City's federal funding cut
- 4:41Speaker 1: off if he was elected and acted in the way
- 4:44Speaker 1: that he was promising that he would now. Interestingly, when
- 4:48Speaker 1: this meeting was announced, I posted on Twitter. I did
- 4:52Speaker 1: not mention this on the podcast because I don't think
- 4:54Speaker 1: it was known at the time, but I did post
- 4:57Speaker 1: on Twitter that if they did a public event together,
- 5:01Speaker 1: a press event together, much like Trump did with NBS
- 5:04Speaker 1: from Saudi Arabia, that it would go very poorly for Trump.
- 5:10Speaker 1: I really thought that Trump was walking into effectively a
- 5:14Speaker 1: trap here because I understand Trump's psychology, I think very
- 5:19Speaker 1: very well. I also understand his politics better than almost
- 5:23Speaker 1: anybody on the maybe the conservative or liberal side of this,
- 5:27Speaker 1: which is I've always believed that Donald Trump is at
- 5:30Speaker 1: his heart in his DNA a Manhattan liberal, that he's
- 5:35Speaker 1: exceedingly liberal and maybe even socialistic. I mean, this is
- 5:39Speaker 1: a guy who I did an episode a couple of
- 5:42Speaker 1: weeks ago about how he was acting essentially like a
- 5:45Speaker 1: communist during Anti Communism Week. So one of the problems
- 5:50Speaker 1: that Trump was going to have with Mondannie is he
- 5:52Speaker 1: doesn't really It is hard of hearts disagree with Mondannie
- 5:56Speaker 1: that much. Plus Mandannie is now celebrity. He's a hot
- 6:01Speaker 1: new celebrity. He's a good looking, charismatic guy. These are
- 6:06Speaker 1: all obviously Trump's weaknesses. Trump has a massive weakness for
- 6:12Speaker 1: people exactly like this. He is enamored with celebrity and
- 6:18Speaker 1: with youth and charisma and people who are media darlings.
- 6:23Speaker 1: And so when you combine all that together, I thought
- 6:27Speaker 1: this is gonna go badly. If they do a public
- 6:30Speaker 1: prece event together, Trump is gonna say some really stupid things.
- 6:35Speaker 1: And Mandonnie is a better speaker than Trump, is probably
- 6:38Speaker 1: smarter than Trump is in a lot of ways. Mandannie's
- 6:41Speaker 1: gonna win this well. Even I, despite having posted that
- 6:46Speaker 1: on social media, was a bit shocked by just how
- 6:50Speaker 1: pathetic Trump's performance was in this dual media availability. Now
- 7:00Speaker 1: are always going to be Trump defenders. There are people
- 7:03Speaker 1: who will go to their dying breath believing that this
- 7:08Speaker 1: is all a plan, that Trump is a four D
- 7:11Speaker 1: or an eight D chess player, that this is all
- 7:16Speaker 1: a trap that he set for Mondani, that he's going
- 7:18Speaker 1: to kill him with a niceness, that he's going to
- 7:22Speaker 1: cause Mondanni difficulty with his liberal base is socialist base,
- 7:28Speaker 1: because he's going to be seen as CosIng up to Trump,
- 7:32Speaker 1: and that won't be good for Mandani, and that that
- 7:34Speaker 1: will actually cause Mondanni problems in New York City. That's
- 7:38Speaker 1: the rationalization that the Trump supporters came up with to
- 7:43Speaker 1: explain what appears to be inexplicable that their hero, the
- 7:47Speaker 1: man who has pledged for many, many years to make
- 7:50Speaker 1: America great again and to defend it against the threats
- 7:55Speaker 1: the barbarians at the gate, the socialists, the communistsist this
- 8:00Speaker 1: is the man who will defend us, who will keep
- 8:04Speaker 1: America alive and make it great again. Well, no one
- 8:08Speaker 1: else is willing to fight the good fight. That's what
- 8:10Speaker 1: Trump fans believe about their leader, Donald Trump. But when
- 8:15Speaker 1: it comes down to it. Trump is a whimp, that's
- 8:19Speaker 1: his essence. I've talked about this many many times before,
- 8:23Speaker 1: most recently with the entire Washington redskin situation where he
- 8:26Speaker 1: completely wooshed out having a golden opportunity on a Fox
- 8:30Speaker 1: Television football broadcast during a commander's game to bring it up.
- 8:35Speaker 1: He was almost invited to. He didn't because at his essence,
- 8:38Speaker 1: he's a wooss. And he whisked out in front of
- 8:41Speaker 1: Mandanni and it was exceedingly predictable. But again, to be clear,
- 8:46Speaker 1: even though I kind of predicted it, I didn't think
- 8:48Speaker 1: it would be this bad. And to prove that, this
- 8:52Speaker 1: went way way beyond normal niceties and you know, trying
- 8:58Speaker 1: to start with a clean sli I get that. I'm
- 9:01Speaker 1: not suggesting that Trump should have gone all guns of
- 9:05Speaker 1: blazing in their first meeting together before Mondannie has even
- 9:09Speaker 1: taken office. I totally get that. There's a place for decorum,
- 9:13Speaker 1: there's a place for being polite, there's a place for
- 9:17Speaker 1: potentially maybe trying to come to common ground. I get
- 9:21Speaker 1: all that. But this went way way way beyond that,
- 9:27Speaker 1: almost to a comical degree. And here is a summary.
- 9:31Speaker 1: This is to be clear, this is edited, but I
- 9:34Speaker 1: don't think it's really all that much out of context.
- 9:37Speaker 1: This is an edited highlight reel, if you will, or
- 9:41Speaker 1: low light reel of Trump talking about Mondannie during their
- 9:46Speaker 1: joint media availability last Friday.
- 9:50Speaker 2: We've just had a great meeting, a really good, very
- 9:54Speaker 2: productive meeting. I think you're gonna have, hopefully a really
- 9:57Speaker 2: great bear. The better he does, a happier I feel
- 10:00Speaker 2: very confident that he can do a very good job.
- 10:02Speaker 2: I think he is going to surprise some conservative people. Actually,
- 10:05Speaker 2: he said a lot of my voters actually voted for him,
- 10:08Speaker 2: and I'm okay with it. He wants to have a
- 10:11Speaker 2: safe New York. Ultimately, a safe New York is going
- 10:14Speaker 2: to be a great New York. And we talked about
- 10:15Speaker 2: con Edison. We have to work a little bit in
- 10:17Speaker 2: getting the prices because you know, we've gotten fuel prices
- 10:19Speaker 2: way down, but it hasn't shown up in Contison, and
- 10:24Speaker 2: we're going to have to talk to them. You know,
- 10:25Speaker 2: if we're saying sending them fuel at a much lower
- 10:28Speaker 2: price than it was a year ago, which is true,
- 10:31Speaker 2: we have to get Contedison to set lowering the rates.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Absolutely, are you a flaming that you think I've spoken
- 10:38Speaker 1: about that's okay.
- 10:39Speaker 2: You can just say okay. It's easier. It's easier than
- 10:44Speaker 2: explaining it penal. But you know, we had some interesting
- 10:47Speaker 2: conversation and some of his ideas really are the same
- 10:50Speaker 2: ideas that I have. And he said some things that
- 10:52Speaker 2: were very interesting, very interesting as to housing construction. And
- 10:56Speaker 2: he wants to see houses go up. He wants to
- 10:59Speaker 2: see a lot of houses created, a lot of apartments built,
- 11:02Speaker 2: et cetera. And you know, we actually are people would
- 11:06Speaker 2: be shocked. But I want to see the same thing.
- 11:08Speaker 1: And we didn't mention.
- 11:10Speaker 2: I didn't mention anything about America. We had a meeting
- 11:14Speaker 2: today that actually surprised me. He wants to see no crime,
- 11:18Speaker 2: he wants to see housing being built, he wants to
- 11:21Speaker 2: see rents coming down, all things that I agree with.
- 11:23Speaker 2: We'd like to see him come down, ideally by building
- 11:25Speaker 2: a lot of additional housing. That's the ultimate way. He
- 11:28Speaker 2: agrees with that, and so do I. But if I
- 11:31Speaker 2: read the newspapers in the suries, I don't hear I
- 11:34Speaker 2: don't hear that. But I heard him say it today,
- 11:37Speaker 2: and I think that's a very positive step. I expect
- 11:40Speaker 2: to be helping him, not hurting him a big help
- 11:43Speaker 2: because I want New York City to be great. I
- 11:45Speaker 2: think this mayor could do some things that are going
- 11:47Speaker 2: to be really great.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Would you feel comfortable living in New York City under.
- 11:50Speaker 2: A yeah, I would, especially after the meeting. Absolutely we agree,
- 11:55Speaker 2: and a lot more than I would have thought. I
- 11:57Speaker 2: want him to do a great job, and we'll help
- 11:59Speaker 2: him do that's very longer. I'll stick up for you.
- 12:02Speaker 2: You know, the plane takes at thirty minutes and driving
- 12:05Speaker 2: TEXTI long.
- 12:07Speaker 1: The leader.
- 12:11Speaker 2: Being the mayor of New York City is a big deal.
- 12:15Speaker 2: I always said, you know, one of the things I
- 12:17Speaker 2: would have left to be someday is the mayor of
- 12:19Speaker 2: New York City. I think you really have a chance
- 12:21Speaker 2: to make it great. For some reason, the press has
- 12:27Speaker 2: found this to be a very interesting meeting. The biggest
- 12:30Speaker 2: people in the world. They come over from countries nobody cares.
- 12:33Speaker 2: But they did care about this meeting. And it was
- 12:36Speaker 2: a great meeting.
- 12:37Speaker 1: I watched.
- 12:37Speaker 2: I said, who is this guy? He was at one,
- 12:40Speaker 2: and he was at three, that it was at five,
- 12:42Speaker 2: that it was at nine, and he went up to seventeen.
- 12:45Speaker 2: And I said, hmm, fit's getting a little bit interesting. Right,
- 12:49Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, he wins the primary
- 12:51Speaker 2: that nobody expected he was going to win. It's a great,
- 12:55Speaker 2: a great tribute. It's an amazing thing that he did.
- 12:59Speaker 2: I think we will. I think we will. I hope
- 13:01Speaker 2: we do. I met with a man who's a very
- 13:03Speaker 2: rational person. I met with a man who wants to
- 13:07Speaker 2: really wants to see New York be great again. I
- 13:09Speaker 2: think he wants to make it greater than ever before.
- 13:12Speaker 2: And if he can, we'll be out there cheering. I'll
- 13:14Speaker 2: be cheering for him. Thank you very much, everybody.
- 13:20Speaker 1: One of my biggest problems with Donald Trump has always
- 13:22Speaker 1: been that I believe he has the mentality of a toddler,
- 13:27Speaker 1: that the last person to put a shiny object in
- 13:31Speaker 1: front of him is almost always going to be the winner.
- 13:36Speaker 1: And I felt this long before he ever ran for president.
- 13:42Speaker 1: One of my greatest objections to him running in twenty
- 13:45Speaker 1: fifteen twenty sixteen was that my wife and I had
- 13:47Speaker 1: been avid watchers of The Apprentice, and anybody who ever
- 13:52Speaker 1: watched The Apprentice for more than a couple of episodes,
- 13:55Speaker 1: in my opinion, if they were even remotely rational thinkers,
- 14:00Speaker 1: had to be very concerned about Donald Trump ever becoming
- 14:03Speaker 1: president because intellectually, psychologically, he is uniquely ill suited for
- 14:10Speaker 1: the presidency because in the boardroom and most of the boardroom,
- 14:16Speaker 1: you know, scenes in the Apprentice were probably contrived, but
- 14:19Speaker 1: there was at least some reality to them, where when
- 14:23Speaker 1: you saw his way of thinking exposed, it was very
- 14:27Speaker 1: scary and it was very Toddler like. And if someone
- 14:32Speaker 1: was able to figure out a way to get a
- 14:34Speaker 1: shiny object to get his attention, that was almost always
- 14:38Speaker 1: going to win the day, and oftentimes the last person
- 14:41Speaker 1: to speak to him would win the day. And Mondanie
- 14:46Speaker 1: clearly snowed Trump in a huge way. And it should
- 14:50Speaker 1: be pointed out it wasn't just the substance of what
- 14:54Speaker 1: Trump said. There the body language and the optics. I mean,
- 15:00Speaker 1: Mondonnie was literally standing over a sitting Donald Trump. Trump
- 15:05Speaker 1: was smiling looking up at Mondannie. I mean, it was
- 15:08Speaker 1: it was crazy. It was absolutely awful, and to me
- 15:15Speaker 1: it was it was symbolically very very significant. I look,
- 15:20Speaker 1: I'm always believe it or not, as even though I'm
- 15:22Speaker 1: a pessimist at hard, I'm always trying to be optimistic.
- 15:25Speaker 1: I mean, nothing actually happened that we know of in
- 15:29Speaker 1: that meeting that is going to significantly negatively impact the
- 15:33Speaker 1: future of the country. However, symbolically, I thought it was
- 15:39Speaker 1: exceedingly problematic and dangerous because I believe that Trump, while
- 15:45Speaker 1: pretending to be the fighter against socialism or communism, whatever
- 15:50Speaker 1: you want to call it, and fighting to make America
- 15:53Speaker 1: great again, is actually the paver of the way for
- 15:57Speaker 1: this country to ultimately end up and socialism or communism
- 16:01Speaker 1: or Marxism. And I don't know that it's by design.
- 16:05Speaker 1: I honestly don't think it is. I don't really know
- 16:07Speaker 1: that Trump has any real core beliefs. I think it's
- 16:12Speaker 1: whatever he perceives as being good for him in the
- 16:16Speaker 1: very very, very very short run. Sometimes it means, like,
- 16:19Speaker 1: you know, the next fifteen minutes. But I truly believe,
- 16:22Speaker 1: using the Barbarians at the Gate metaphor or analogy, that
- 16:27Speaker 1: that's where we are when it comes to fighting off
- 16:31Speaker 1: the forces of Marxism. I truly believe that. But Trump's
- 16:35Speaker 1: not a fighter of this. In fact, I believe Trump
- 16:38Speaker 1: has effectively left the key in the gate for the
- 16:41Speaker 1: barbarians to open it up. He's done all sorts of things,
- 16:46Speaker 1: it continues to do all sorts of things that it's
- 16:48Speaker 1: going to make it far, far easier for the socialists,
- 16:52Speaker 1: the Marxists, the Bernie Sanders, the aocs, the Gavin Newsom's,
- 16:59Speaker 1: you know, the Mondanna. He's going to make it far
- 17:01Speaker 1: far easier for them to do what they want just
- 17:06Speaker 1: taking out of the theoretical giving in. One example is
- 17:08Speaker 1: the whole idea which he did during COVID, which at
- 17:12Speaker 1: least then it was under somewhat extraordinary circumstances, but the
- 17:15Speaker 1: idea of just handing out checks willy nilly to non
- 17:19Speaker 1: rich Americans when we don't have that money to be
- 17:22Speaker 1: giving away. It's not like this is a surplus dividend.
- 17:26Speaker 1: That's just one of many, many examples of where Trump
- 17:30Speaker 1: is either knowingly or unwittingly, ignorantly or who knows what,
- 17:36Speaker 1: paving the way for America to turn into a socialist
- 17:40Speaker 1: Marxist country. And we saw it right there. I mean,
- 17:44Speaker 1: I truly believe that when that happens, and I am
- 17:47Speaker 1: convinced it will happen, when I'm not one hundred percent sure,
- 17:49Speaker 1: I believe that the AI Revolution is going to further
- 17:53Speaker 1: facilitate that in probably a much shorter period of time
- 17:56Speaker 1: than we ever imagined possible for reasons I've already discussed
- 17:59Speaker 1: in detail, but I believe that somebody's going to eventually
- 18:03Speaker 1: write a book, probably in another country where they're still
- 18:06Speaker 1: allowed to write such books, about how America fell into
- 18:10Speaker 1: Marxism or socialism, and on the cover of that book
- 18:13Speaker 1: is going to be a photo of Trump looking up
- 18:15Speaker 1: at Mandani smiling. Because this was the end. This or
- 18:20Speaker 1: this is the end. And I don't want to claim
- 18:21Speaker 1: that that meeting was the end, but it was symbolic
- 18:25Speaker 1: of where we're going that even the great fighter against
- 18:28Speaker 1: the Bavarians at the Gate is actually allied with the barbarians,
- 18:34Speaker 1: and his base is too duped to understand this, either
- 18:40Speaker 1: too dumb or too duped or both, or just so
- 18:43Speaker 1: invested that they rationalize everything he does as being some
- 18:46Speaker 1: sort of master plan and four D chess move for
- 18:51Speaker 1: which there's no evidence. So I to me, you know,
- 18:56Speaker 1: I realize a lot of what Trump does is a
- 18:57Speaker 1: rorshack test, and to me, it was very clear the
- 19:03Speaker 1: way to interpret what really happened there that was a
- 19:08Speaker 1: man behind the curtain, Wizard of Oz type moment. We're
- 19:12Speaker 1: going to talk later in the podcast of my daughter
- 19:15Speaker 1: Grace and One of the things we're gonna talk about
- 19:17Speaker 1: is the Wicked two movie which just came out, which actually,
- 19:21Speaker 1: in my view, tries to portray fairly obviously the Wizard
- 19:26Speaker 1: as a Trump like character, and in this particular case,
- 19:30Speaker 1: I think they're right. I've always described Trump as the
- 19:33Speaker 1: old man behind the curtain pretending to be the Wizard
- 19:36Speaker 1: of Oz, and this was the curtain being slit open
- 19:40Speaker 1: and us getting to see what happens when Trump is
- 19:45Speaker 1: enamored with a socialist, with a Marxist, And to me,
- 19:50Speaker 1: it was very very telling and very very troubling about
- 19:54Speaker 1: where we are headed again. I don't think, although who knows,
- 19:58Speaker 1: I mean, as corrupt as Trump can be, is it
- 20:02Speaker 1: possible that Mondannie, you know, offered Trump some promises about
- 20:07Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with his properties in New York, which
- 20:10Speaker 1: make up an enormous amount of both his financial assets
- 20:14Speaker 1: as well as his psychological assets. I have no evidence
- 20:18Speaker 1: of that whatsoever. But with Trump, you got to remember
- 20:21Speaker 1: what's important to him, and New York City property is
- 20:24Speaker 1: right near the top of the list, if not at
- 20:26Speaker 1: the top of the list, maybe right behind his golf courses,
- 20:29Speaker 1: And so you know, that's certainly possible too, but I
- 20:33Speaker 1: always like to get people the benefit of the doubt,
- 20:35Speaker 1: and to me, this was just the classic case of
- 20:38Speaker 1: Trump being played, being enamored with the whole charisma of
- 20:44Speaker 1: Mondanie and not really having any philosophical beliefs that are
- 20:48Speaker 1: all that duxtaposed or opposed to Mandannie. I mean, Trump
- 20:54Speaker 1: himself said we agree on a lot, which is just
- 20:59Speaker 1: a start of shame. And if you choose to ignore it, fine,
- 21:04Speaker 1: but I don't choose to ignore it, especially since we
- 21:06Speaker 1: are in very troubling and serious times and I think
- 21:09Speaker 1: this is symbolic of where we're going now. I want
- 21:12Speaker 1: to at least mention what's going on with regard to
- 21:16Speaker 1: the latest effort to try to finally end the war
- 21:19Speaker 1: between Ukraine and Russia, which Trump of course promised he
- 21:22Speaker 1: would end on day one of his presidency. And I
- 21:27Speaker 1: don't think there's going to be a deal anytime soon,
- 21:29Speaker 1: but there are there are rumors or murmurs or indications
- 21:33Speaker 1: that they might be close to making a deal. And
- 21:37Speaker 1: the reason why I want to mention this is that
- 21:40Speaker 1: it goes back to something that I talked about when
- 21:43Speaker 1: Israel and Hamas came to a deal. Now To be clear,
- 21:46Speaker 1: it appears as if that deal, at least as of
- 21:49Speaker 1: right now, is holding. I did not like the deal
- 21:52Speaker 1: between Israel and Hamas because I thought it was not
- 21:55Speaker 1: as favorable to Israel as the circumstances deserved, and I
- 21:59Speaker 1: felt as if Jared Kushner, who got a lot of
- 22:03Speaker 1: credit for the Israel Hamas cease fire deal, was essentially
- 22:08Speaker 1: using reverse leverage. I went into great detail about how
- 22:13Speaker 1: Kushner's getting all sorts of credit for this, but what
- 22:16Speaker 1: in reality is happening is that he was selling out Israel.
- 22:20Speaker 1: That like Trump, he understands the nature of leverage, and normally,
- 22:26Speaker 1: in a typical situation, historically, if the United States was
- 22:30Speaker 1: helping the broker a deal between an ally and an adversary,
- 22:34Speaker 1: we would try to do everything we possibly can to
- 22:37Speaker 1: help the ally. That's just basic logic. But Kushner and
- 22:42Speaker 1: I think Trump understand, I mean, this is their world.
- 22:46Speaker 1: Leverage is their world. They understand that their real leverage
- 22:51Speaker 1: was not with Hamas getting Hamas to do what they wanted,
- 22:55Speaker 1: It was with forcing Israel to go along. They just
- 22:58Speaker 1: want a piece deal. So Israel in a situation where
- 23:03Speaker 1: they're number one by far ally the entity that they're
- 23:07Speaker 1: relying on for their survival is essentially selling them out,
- 23:11Speaker 1: so they have no choice but to go along with
- 23:14Speaker 1: a deal it's not very good or because Trump wants
- 23:17Speaker 1: to be seen as the peacemaker. Well again, is it
- 23:21Speaker 1: possible that that deal ends up working out? Yeah? Great,
- 23:24Speaker 1: I hope it does, even though I still think it
- 23:26Speaker 1: was a lowsy deal for Israel. But I'm mentioning this
- 23:29Speaker 1: in the context of Ukraine Russia because it's very very
- 23:32Speaker 1: obvious to me now and should be to anybody who
- 23:35Speaker 1: looks at this objectively, that my analysis of what happened
- 23:40Speaker 1: with Israel and Amas was dead on because Jared Kushner
- 23:43Speaker 1: has been brought in again along with his buddy Steve Whitkoff,
- 23:47Speaker 1: to do effectively the same thing to Ukraine that they
- 23:51Speaker 1: did to Israel. And to be clear, I have no
- 23:54Speaker 1: dog in the Ukraine Russian hunt. I hate Putin, I
- 23:58Speaker 1: don't like Zelensky, I don't trust anybody in this situation.
- 24:03Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure all this is really
- 24:05Speaker 1: all that much in our national interest. I'd like to
- 24:08Speaker 1: see the war end, but I have nobody to root
- 24:12Speaker 1: for in this. However, it seems to me is that
- 24:16Speaker 1: the exact same mo is being used almost to a
- 24:20Speaker 1: comical degree against Ukraine our ally allegedly in this situation,
- 24:27Speaker 1: as what happened with Israel, and the evidence of this
- 24:30Speaker 1: is overwhelming. This twenty eight point plan that was essentially
- 24:37Speaker 1: copied from what Russia's demands were. Under this twenty eight
- 24:41Speaker 1: point plan, which will never be adopted, but if anything
- 24:44Speaker 1: close to it was adopted, Russia would get land that
- 24:48Speaker 1: they didn't even win in the war. Ukraine hasn't even
- 24:52Speaker 1: lost yet. I mean, it's just it's unbelievable how pro
- 24:57Speaker 1: Russia this proposal is. But it's actually worse than that.
- 25:02Speaker 1: We now have a leaked phone call from Steve Witkoff,
- 25:07Speaker 1: the Jared Kushner's partner in negotiations, and all this advising
- 25:13Speaker 1: Russia on how to pitch their proposal to Trump, which
- 25:20Speaker 1: by the way, is almost exactly out of the Mandani
- 25:23Speaker 1: playbook or anybody else that has ever manipulated Trump. Everyone
- 25:26Speaker 1: knows go for his ego. I mean, this is almost comical.
- 25:31Speaker 1: If it wasn't so serious, where and if you're Ukraine,
- 25:36Speaker 1: how betrayed do you have to feel? I realized, especially
- 25:41Speaker 1: on the conservative side, there's no love for your creators.
- 25:43Speaker 1: Let's get I get that, I'm in that boat. I understand.
- 25:46Speaker 1: But you've been fighting your guts out for survival, and
- 25:51Speaker 1: your supposed ally, the United States, is now found to
- 25:55Speaker 1: be advising Russia on how to manipulate Trump into accepting
- 26:02Speaker 1: their terms for a ceasefire or a peace deal. And
- 26:08Speaker 1: it's exactly exactly the same philosophy which works for Trump,
- 26:14Speaker 1: which is to sell out your ally in exchange for
- 26:19Speaker 1: some sort of a peace deal, a good headline, the
- 26:22Speaker 1: furthering of the narrative that you're a peace president, maybe
- 26:28Speaker 1: eventually fulfilling this bizarre dream of being a Nobel Peace
- 26:31Speaker 1: Prize winner, which I don't think is ever going to
- 26:33Speaker 1: happen for Donald Trump. But this is not the proper
- 26:38Speaker 1: way to do negotiations. If you're going to be taken
- 26:41Speaker 1: seriously as the leader of the free world and your
- 26:44Speaker 1: allies are ever going to trust you in the future,
- 26:46Speaker 1: why would an ally ever trust the United States again?
- 26:50Speaker 1: If this ends up happening the way that it looks
- 26:52Speaker 1: right now, where we're willing to leverage our own allies
- 26:58Speaker 1: into really crappy peace deal. But that seems to be
- 27:02Speaker 1: where this is headed and the evidence is now overwhelming. Now,
- 27:08Speaker 1: there's been some interesting developments on the domestic front with
- 27:12Speaker 1: regard to Trump's retribution campaign against his enemies. You've probably
- 27:17Speaker 1: heard that the indictments against James Comy and Letitia James
- 27:21Speaker 1: have at least temporarily been eradicated. They've been invalidated. I
- 27:29Speaker 1: told you that I thought the case against former FBI
- 27:31Speaker 1: director James Comy was crap. I was very confident he
- 27:35Speaker 1: would never be convicted of anything. I don't like Comy,
- 27:38Speaker 1: but my philosophy on Comy is that conservatives have completely
- 27:43Speaker 1: misunderstood him, that he is someone who was in love
- 27:46Speaker 1: with his own virtue. This made him a very poor
- 27:49Speaker 1: fit for Trump. They went sideways. Trump fired him, call
- 27:53Speaker 1: me added up two plus two and got five when
- 27:57Speaker 1: it came to Russia Gate and related issue. Choose And
- 28:01Speaker 1: now Trump is on a retribution campaign and he wants
- 28:04Speaker 1: his enemies vanquished and punished like he believes he was
- 28:08Speaker 1: with all the indictments against him. So it's very very
- 28:12Speaker 1: obvious that this was a plan from the top, or
- 28:16Speaker 1: at least proceed by those under Trump, that he wanted
- 28:19Speaker 1: Comy indicted. There was a US attorney that resigned over
- 28:23Speaker 1: this issue, and those indictments against Comy and Leticia James
- 28:27Speaker 1: have been at least temporarily invalidated by a judge because
- 28:33Speaker 1: of what transpired after the US attorney resigned over efforts
- 28:38Speaker 1: to pressure them into indicting James Comy. And that's because
- 28:43Speaker 1: of an apparently unlawful appointment of the new US Attorney,
- 28:48Speaker 1: Lindsay Halligan, who is a close Trump confidant, completely unqualified
- 28:55Speaker 1: for the position for no other reason. You can tell
- 28:59Speaker 1: this by the fact that she happens to be super hot.
- 29:02Speaker 1: She's probably the most beautiful US attorney in American history.
- 29:07Speaker 1: It might not even be close. She's basically a model
- 29:10Speaker 1: for all intentsive purposes, right out of Trump's playbook what
- 29:15Speaker 1: Trump loves. And you know, this is so shocking, right
- 29:19Speaker 1: that an emergency appointment of a super hot, unqualified US
- 29:23Speaker 1: attorney has led to indictments against James Comby and Latisia
- 29:27Speaker 1: James being invalidated by a judge. That's just I just
- 29:31Speaker 1: did not see that coming. Folks who could have possibly
- 29:34Speaker 1: had that on their bingo card. Everybody with the brain,
- 29:38Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is what happens. This is
- 29:40Speaker 1: what happens. When you hire people based upon their own
- 29:44Speaker 1: personal loyalty and maybe their physical attractiveness and not their
- 29:48Speaker 1: level of confidence, and you don't do things properly because
- 29:51Speaker 1: you're in a rush to do it, and you've got
- 29:53Speaker 1: an attorney US attorney that resigns effectively in protest over
- 29:58Speaker 1: something that you're gonna You're trying to tribe in the
- 30:01Speaker 1: realm of criminal indictments. Now, I think that these indictments
- 30:06Speaker 1: will probably eventually be reinstated because they're just going to
- 30:10Speaker 1: go through the process again. But with the guard I
- 30:14Speaker 1: don't know the issues involving le Tis James quite as much.
- 30:17Speaker 1: It certainly appears to be in the realm of retribution,
- 30:20Speaker 1: but I'm pretty I'm pretty familiar with the issues relating
- 30:24Speaker 1: to James. Call me. I'm not a thousand percent sure
- 30:27Speaker 1: they're going to be able to get a grand jury
- 30:29Speaker 1: to go along with this again. They got to essentially
- 30:32Speaker 1: restart the process from what I understand, and it is
- 30:36Speaker 1: theoretically possible that a grand jury may not go along
- 30:39Speaker 1: with it. But I don't think we've heard the end
- 30:41Speaker 1: of this. And you know, Trump is going to get
- 30:45Speaker 1: what Trump wants in most cases, because whether it's Lindsay
- 30:48Speaker 1: Halligan or somebody else. They know what the boss wants,
- 30:53Speaker 1: and getting an indictment from any grand jury is not
- 30:56Speaker 1: that difficult. It's famously fairly easy, even when the allegations
- 31:02Speaker 1: cannot possibly be proven, even if they actually happened, which
- 31:06Speaker 1: I'm not convinced in the James Comey case that they
- 31:09Speaker 1: actually did. In a somewhat similar situation, we have the
- 31:13Speaker 1: Epstein Files. Now, there hasn't been that much that has
- 31:16Speaker 1: happened since the last episode of the podcast, where I
- 31:19Speaker 1: went into great, great, great detail about how and why
- 31:23Speaker 1: I believe everybody is screwing this story up. And if
- 31:27Speaker 1: you haven't heard episode two sixty eight yet, I urge
- 31:30Speaker 1: you to take listen. We spend over two hours on it.
- 31:34Speaker 1: We do a pretty interesting interview with liberal commentator former
- 31:38Speaker 1: cable news host David Schuster about this issue, because David
- 31:43Speaker 1: is convinced that Trump is implicated in the Epstein Files.
- 31:47Speaker 1: I am equally convinced, maybe even more so, that he
- 31:50Speaker 1: is not. But there have been a couple of things
- 31:54Speaker 1: that have happened. Trump has now signed the bill into
- 31:58Speaker 1: law the forces the Epstein files to be released sometime
- 32:03Speaker 1: apparently in December there's still confusion over what that actually means.
- 32:09Speaker 1: There's confusion over whether or not the law it is
- 32:12Speaker 1: as it is written, actually makes it very very easy
- 32:16Speaker 1: for things that should be released not to be released.
- 32:19Speaker 1: And so I don't know what to tell you on
- 32:21Speaker 1: that front. Eventually we're going to get something called the
- 32:25Speaker 1: Epstein Files. I don't know exactly when, and I don't
- 32:29Speaker 1: know to what extent they're going to be redacted, but
- 32:31Speaker 1: it's going to happen, and it's going to happen before
- 32:33Speaker 1: the end of the year in all likelihood. But as
- 32:37Speaker 1: you know if you listen, especially to the last episode
- 32:39Speaker 1: of the podcast, I am extremely concerned about this thing
- 32:43Speaker 1: launching a series of witch hunts because I don't believe
- 32:46Speaker 1: that anybody in this whole situation other than Jeffrey Epstein
- 32:50Speaker 1: was clearly guilty. I'm open to the idea that Glenne Maxwell,
- 32:55Speaker 1: who's in a federal prison convicted of helping in the
- 33:00Speaker 1: sex trafficking that Jeffrey Epstein was allegedly engaged in, could
- 33:04Speaker 1: be guilty. I'm not convinced that her trial was remotely fair,
- 33:08Speaker 1: and I'm not convinced that she's actually guilty of anything.
- 33:11Speaker 1: I'm open on that question, I'm of the very strong belief,
- 33:15Speaker 1: especially given the recent cash of emails from the Epstein
- 33:20Speaker 1: estate where we have a conversation between Epstein and then
- 33:23Speaker 1: Prince Andrew about the allegations against him, that Prince Andrew
- 33:26Speaker 1: was totally railroaded, was completely innocent, which is an important
- 33:31Speaker 1: part of this equation, because I really do believe that
- 33:34Speaker 1: it was the series of events of Epstein killing himself
- 33:39Speaker 1: maybe being murdered if you're a conspiracy theorist in a
- 33:42Speaker 1: federal prison, followed by the destruction of Andrew, followed by
- 33:46Speaker 1: the conviction of Glene Maxwell, that created in everyone's mind,
- 33:50Speaker 1: especially in the news media, that this was a massive conspiracy,
- 33:55Speaker 1: that this is a massive story, that there's a lot
- 33:58Speaker 1: more going on here than we were led to believe.
- 34:01Speaker 1: It was not just Jeffrey Epstein engaging in prostitution, often
- 34:05Speaker 1: with underage girls, and I just think that's a fallacy,
- 34:09Speaker 1: and I explained in great detail in the last episode
- 34:12Speaker 1: why that's the case. My main concern right now is
- 34:15Speaker 1: the witch hunt that will follow these alleged revelations because
- 34:20Speaker 1: the story has become so nuclear, so radioactive, is so big,
- 34:25Speaker 1: and there's such an incentive for news outlets to destroy
- 34:30Speaker 1: anybody who gets touched by quote unquote new documentation in
- 34:36Speaker 1: the Epstein case, that inevitably innocent people are going to
- 34:39Speaker 1: be greatly harmed. And in the last episode, we already
- 34:43Speaker 1: knew that the former president of Harvard, Larry Summers, who
- 34:47Speaker 1: was a major Democratic administration official in multiple administrations, he's
- 34:53Speaker 1: a liberal. I've always thought he was pretty darn smart
- 34:56Speaker 1: for a liberal economist. He was not nearly as woke
- 35:00Speaker 1: as you might expect somebody who was a president of
- 35:03Speaker 1: Harvard to be. So I never minded Larry Summers, especially
- 35:07Speaker 1: if I'm grading on a curve for him being a
- 35:10Speaker 1: liberal member of the academic elite. But it was already
- 35:14Speaker 1: clear last week that Summers was going to get destroyed
- 35:17Speaker 1: by this. That has further been the case since last
- 35:20Speaker 1: week's episode. He stupidly tried to teach a class at Harvard,
- 35:25Speaker 1: where he's still a professor, and started off by apologizing
- 35:29Speaker 1: to his class for having been mentioned in the Epstein emails,
- 35:35Speaker 1: which again there's not even an allegation of any criminality
- 35:39Speaker 1: involving his email exchanges with Epstein. They're just embarrassing, partially
- 35:44Speaker 1: because of the content, partially because of the timing, and
- 35:48Speaker 1: obviously anybody having any association with Epstein whatsoever is now
- 35:53Speaker 1: presumed to be guilty. We've just completely lost this idea
- 35:57Speaker 1: of there being a problem with guilt by association or
- 36:00Speaker 1: a presumption of guilt by association. And we're also engaging
- 36:04Speaker 1: in just absolutely ridiculous twenty twenty hindsight, which I just
- 36:08Speaker 1: can't stand. I mean, it just drives me crazy that
- 36:12Speaker 1: we're reevaluating actions that were taken during a completely different
- 36:16Speaker 1: time period, with a completely different set of facts on
- 36:21Speaker 1: the table that people were dealing with when they determined
- 36:24Speaker 1: whether or not to have a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein,
- 36:27Speaker 1: and we're now evaluating them through a prism that I
- 36:29Speaker 1: don't even think is accurate regarding who Jeffrey Epstein really was.
- 36:34Speaker 1: So and so much of this, of course, is reminiscent
- 36:37Speaker 1: to what happened in the Penn State Joe Paternal Jerry
- 36:40Speaker 1: Sandusky scandal, which I went into detail about in the
- 36:43Speaker 1: last episode of the podcast as well. But when it
- 36:46Speaker 1: came to Summers, he apologized, which was so stupid, right
- 36:50Speaker 1: because you know somebody's going to tape record this in
- 36:53Speaker 1: the class. You know, all these super woke Harvard students.
- 36:57Speaker 1: They hear an apology, they see the blood in the water.
- 37:02Speaker 1: There's this witch hunt mentality. They don't know any of
- 37:05Speaker 1: the details. All they know about Jeffrey Epstein is that
- 37:08Speaker 1: he was like Hitler incarnate, only with sex abuse, and
- 37:13Speaker 1: so therefore any association with him is inherently terrible. He
- 37:18Speaker 1: sounds guilty. They know, someone posts a video online and
- 37:23Speaker 1: immediately Harvard removes him as a professor until a further
- 37:29Speaker 1: investigation can be done about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein,
- 37:34Speaker 1: which of course is just so completely ridiculous on so
- 37:37Speaker 1: many levels, yet so predictable. I mean, you know, a conservative,
- 37:41Speaker 1: a real conservative, would have turned into the curve and said, look,
- 37:45Speaker 1: let's joke about what an idiot I looked like in
- 37:49Speaker 1: these emails with Jeffrey Epstein. But let me also tell
- 37:52Speaker 1: you what I learned about this, because there's some interesting
- 37:56Speaker 1: things to be discerned here. I mean, you know, turn
- 37:59Speaker 1: into the curve freaking apologize, especially when there's blood already
- 38:03Speaker 1: in the water and these woke students are just looking for,
- 38:07Speaker 1: you know, for chum. There's sharks looking for chum. And
- 38:10Speaker 1: the media is exactly the same way including the Harvard media.
- 38:14Speaker 1: And that's partially why I want to mention this because this,
- 38:17Speaker 1: to me just shows how completely and totally broken journalism
- 38:22Speaker 1: is at every level in twenty twenty five, So you know,
- 38:28Speaker 1: former president of Harvard, current professor barely Larry Summers gets
- 38:33Speaker 1: wrapped up in this cash of Epstein estate emails, and
- 38:38Speaker 1: the Harvard Crimson, the student newspaper at Harvard, goes on
- 38:43Speaker 1: a rampage against Summers and starts doing stories on all
- 38:49Speaker 1: the indications of a relationship in the past between Summers
- 38:55Speaker 1: and Epstein, and they get all sorts of love from
- 38:59Speaker 1: the main news media. Oh my gosh, Oh, student journalism
- 39:03Speaker 1: is where it at. Look, look what a great job
- 39:05Speaker 1: that Harvard Crimson is doing and destroying their past president
- 39:10Speaker 1: and their current professor, Larry Summers. And one of the
- 39:15Speaker 1: primary stories that the Harvard Crimson came up with was
- 39:19Speaker 1: that back in two thousand and five, after Larry Summers
- 39:23Speaker 1: got married, he and his wife then wife went on
- 39:26Speaker 1: a honeymoon where they visited wait for it, Epstein Island,
- 39:34Speaker 1: bum bum bum. Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, Larry
- 39:40Speaker 1: Summers on his honeymoon. Because I'm sure that's what he
- 39:42Speaker 1: was looking for in his honeymoon was underage prostitutes. That's
- 39:46Speaker 1: I'm sure that was a big part of the honeymoon
- 39:49Speaker 1: plans for Larry Summers and his wife because he went
- 39:53Speaker 1: to the island, and the island, i mean, is perfect
- 39:56Speaker 1: for this whole bullshit narrative because everyone has this vision
- 40:00Speaker 1: of these horrible things happening on the island because you
- 40:02Speaker 1: can get away with anything you want on an island, right,
- 40:04Speaker 1: you own your own island. It's out of a Bond movie.
- 40:07Speaker 1: That's what people are thinking, which is just part of
- 40:10Speaker 1: the perfect storm of bullshit here. But here's the part
- 40:14Speaker 1: that really drove me crazy about the Harvard Crimson going
- 40:18Speaker 1: bananas over the fact that in two thousand and five,
- 40:23Speaker 1: so timelines are so important in these stories. In two
- 40:27Speaker 1: thousand and five, you know, Larry Summers was visiting on
- 40:32Speaker 1: his honeymoon Epstein Island. Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. Scandalous,
- 40:37Speaker 1: what great journalism. Except in two thousand and five, publicly,
- 40:43Speaker 1: there was no knowledge of any of this. Epstein hadn't
- 40:46Speaker 1: pled guilty to anything at that point. He was a
- 40:50Speaker 1: completely different persona, especially within the Harvard community in this
- 40:57Speaker 1: time period. And you know, what the proof of that
- 40:59Speaker 1: is the Harvard Crimson newspaper, because on May first of
- 41:05Speaker 1: two thousand and three, just two years before this alleged
- 41:09Speaker 1: scandal involving Summers going to epstein Island on his honeymoon,
- 41:14Speaker 1: the Harvard Crimson. To be clear, nothing happened publicly between
- 41:18Speaker 1: two thousand and three and two thousand and five. The
- 41:21Speaker 1: Harvard Crimson wrote this glowing an extremely long profile of
- 41:30Speaker 1: you guessed it, Jeffrey Epstein. I'm just gonna read the
- 41:34Speaker 1: headline in the first couple of paragraphs. This is the
- 41:37Speaker 1: Harvard Crimson May first, two thousand and three. Mogul donor
- 41:43Speaker 1: gives Harvard more than money. Reclusive investor Epstein forges intellectual
- 41:52Speaker 1: and financial connections with university. Then the article begins, Jeffrey E.
- 41:58Speaker 1: Epstein's recent thirty million dollars gift to Harvard was one
- 42:04Speaker 1: in a series of donations that the elusive magnet has
- 42:08Speaker 1: given anonymously to the university over the past decade. I'd
- 42:13Speaker 1: love to know how they know it was Epstein, if
- 42:14Speaker 1: who gave the money anonymously anonymously, but okay, whatever, the
- 42:18Speaker 1: story behind Epstein's deep connection with Harvard parallels his giving
- 42:24Speaker 1: history with close friendships with professors and administrators spanning the
- 42:29Speaker 1: past ten years. As an individual with no formal connection
- 42:35Speaker 1: to the university save for his donations, his Harvard ties
- 42:40Speaker 1: highlight the meeting between the world of minds in the
- 42:46Speaker 1: academy and the world of wallets in the business arena. Basically,
- 42:52Speaker 1: what we have here is a blowjob in the Harvard
- 42:56Speaker 1: Crimson for a guy who gave a shitload of money
- 43:00Speaker 1: to Harvard, even though he has no direct connection to Harvard.
- 43:05Speaker 1: And I'm not sure obviously no one who's working for
- 43:09Speaker 1: the Harvard Cripson today was working for them, but two
- 43:11Speaker 1: thousand and three. My point is, at the very very
- 43:14Speaker 1: least the Harvard Cripson, if they're going to attack Larry
- 43:18Speaker 1: Summers for what he did with Epstein in two thousand
- 43:20Speaker 1: and five, they ought to be attacking their own newspaper
- 43:24Speaker 1: for what they did in the same time period. I mean,
- 43:28Speaker 1: because this is not the way this is supposed to work.
- 43:33Speaker 1: This guilt by association twenty twenty hindsight just forgetting what
- 43:38Speaker 1: the reality of the world was in two thousand and
- 43:41Speaker 1: five with regard to the perception of Epstein. And by
- 43:44Speaker 1: the way, this Harvard Crimson article from two thousand and three,
- 43:47Speaker 1: I think is a real insight into the way that
- 43:51Speaker 1: Epstein operated, which I've referenced previously, which is Epstein. Now,
- 43:57Speaker 1: who the hell knows exactly how he got his money.
- 44:00Speaker 1: I think it's one of the mysteries of this old
- 44:02Speaker 1: case and how he got so rich as he did.
- 44:05Speaker 1: But he obviously understood the power of branding and being
- 44:12Speaker 1: associated with prestigious brands, and he understood the vulnerabilities of
- 44:20Speaker 1: how to get into the good graces of these prestigious brands.
- 44:27Speaker 1: He did it with Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew prestigious name,
- 44:33Speaker 1: but he has very little money to his name. He's
- 44:37Speaker 1: the spare, not the air. So there's lots of prestige
- 44:41Speaker 1: and no reality unless something happens to his brother Charles.
- 44:45Speaker 1: And Andrew was vulnerable to private jets and you know,
- 44:51Speaker 1: palaces and islands or whatever. I don't even know if Andrew.
- 44:54Speaker 1: Everyone went to the Epstein island. But Epstein understood that
- 44:59Speaker 1: someone like Andrew could be bought, and that an association
- 45:04Speaker 1: with Andrew would be valuable to him among the elites.
- 45:09Speaker 1: He did the same thing with Trump. He clearly did
- 45:12Speaker 1: the same thing with Harvard no more prestigious brand than Harvard,
- 45:17Speaker 1: And especially back in that era, what's the easiest way
- 45:22Speaker 1: to get yourself ingratiated and be accepted into the Harvard elites.
- 45:28Speaker 1: Give them thirty million dollars, and remarkable things happen. You
- 45:33Speaker 1: get glowing profiles in the Harvard Crimson and you get
- 45:37Speaker 1: the president of Harvard coming to your island on their honeymoon. Well,
- 45:42Speaker 1: this is incredibly valuable to Epstein, because that's the way
- 45:46Speaker 1: the elites work. The elites look at the world through
- 45:50Speaker 1: the lens of Okay, if all the other elites have
- 45:53Speaker 1: accepted you, and there's a presumption of vetting there, then
- 45:58Speaker 1: you're part of the club. And therefore we don't look
- 46:02Speaker 1: at how you made your money, or why you're hanging
- 46:05Speaker 1: out with young girls all the time, or what the
- 46:09Speaker 1: hell this island is all about. It is he's effectively
- 46:14Speaker 1: buying a presumption of innocence. He's buying plausible deniability, and
- 46:20Speaker 1: he was a master at it. He used his private
- 46:23Speaker 1: jet during a time period in early two thousands when
- 46:27Speaker 1: having a private jet was still a really big deal
- 46:30Speaker 1: to ingratiate himself with all sorts of high profile people
- 46:35Speaker 1: and all these high profile people. It one begets another
- 46:41Speaker 1: because it's a club. This is the way the elites work,
- 46:45Speaker 1: this is the way they think. And so to me,
- 46:49Speaker 1: I found what the Harvard crimson did to be stupid
- 46:54Speaker 1: and outrageous and an indication of just how pathetic journalism
- 46:58Speaker 1: is in general, and young journalists are in particular. And
- 47:02Speaker 1: the fact that they were getting praised for it is
- 47:06Speaker 1: just so unbelievably telling. They're getting praised for this for
- 47:10Speaker 1: destroying one of their own professors when there's not a
- 47:13Speaker 1: shred of evidence or logic they ever did anything remotely
- 47:17Speaker 1: criminal involving Jeffrey Epstein. But this is what's gonna happen
- 47:22Speaker 1: to a lot of people once these files, in whatever
- 47:26Speaker 1: form they exist, are finally made public. There's gonna be
- 47:30Speaker 1: all sorts of colladal damage to Larry Summers. Thing is
- 47:35Speaker 1: just a preview of things to come, because if they
- 47:39Speaker 1: did it the Summers, based upon that factual record, they're
- 47:42Speaker 1: gonna be able to do it to all sorts of
- 47:44Speaker 1: high profile people because there's an audience for it. The
- 47:47Speaker 1: masses are demanding an execution of the elites. That's what
- 47:52Speaker 1: they were promised in the Epstein story, and that's what
- 47:55Speaker 1: they're gonna get were regardless of what the facts are,
- 47:59Speaker 1: regardless of what the logic is or lack thereof. Thanks
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