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3 Guys Before The Game - Penn State Recap (Episode 571) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Well, that was not what we were looking for. Ouch
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  Speaker 1: ouch ouch ouch seasons underway, and it was a shot.
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia falls to Penn State. We're here to talk
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  Speaker 1: you in episode. I guess it's five seventy one. For
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  Speaker 1: whoever's counting at home. Hoppy is here, The Senator is here.
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  Speaker 1: Senator has said very few words in our massive pre
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  Speaker 1: production meeting. Even on it's been he's been working.
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  Speaker 2: I was in here and I just stayed quiet because.
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  Speaker 1: He's in one of those moves. Right, yeah, no question.
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  Speaker 1: First time I've ever seen a guy worked at keyboards,
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  Speaker 1: sparks coming off of his fingertips.
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  Speaker 2: He got numbers, he's got well, he shared a few.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be fascinating. He's got some good
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  Speaker 1: Forward to it. I look forward to it. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's jump on in ow all right, ow from the
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  Speaker 1: from the old, from the old annals of football history.
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  Speaker 1: That one was the that was the gut punch. What's
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  Speaker 1: it all mean as we look back? What's it all
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  Speaker 1: mean as we look forward? Hoppy, would you like to
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  Speaker 1: provide a a high elevation thirty thousand foot? Sure? Sure?
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  Speaker 1: Take away on this contest as.
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  Speaker 2: The old dog in this group. I've seen a lot
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  Speaker 2: of West Virginia Penn State games in it they look
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  Speaker 2: pretty famili It looked like a lot of other Penn
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  Speaker 2: State West Virginia games that I've seen.
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  Speaker 1: Number one.
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  Speaker 2: Number two is and the main point from me, Tony
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  Speaker 2: is that the pregame for this game started eight months
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  Speaker 2: ago in talking about West Virginia and Penn State, and
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  Speaker 2: West Virginia ended the year on a high note. Expectations
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  Speaker 2: grew over the months, and this week was unprecedented in
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  Speaker 2: terms of the excitement and expectation.
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  Speaker 1: It was like a sugar high.
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  Speaker 2: If one donut is good, the second one's going to
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  Speaker 2: taste even better. The third one will be outstanding. But
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  Speaker 2: we know what happens with a sugar high, there's a crash.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that with all that happened over the
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  Speaker 2: last eight months and this week, with the you saw
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  Speaker 2: the reaction at the at the McAfee show Fox being here,
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  Speaker 2: machine Gun Kelly, it reached an incredible level of enthusiasm
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  Speaker 2: and expectation, probably no certainly greater than what was realistic,
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  Speaker 2: and then in the game you fall well short, well
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  Speaker 2: short of those expectations. So the disappointment is real, the
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  Speaker 2: disappointment is great, The disappointment is palpable. I mean, Neil
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  Speaker 2: Brown said it after the game. To say I'm disappointed
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  Speaker 2: in how we played would be an understatement. So just
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  Speaker 2: apply that to all of mountaineer Nation. Just extreme disappointment. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there's probably going to be an overreaction here because the
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  Speaker 2: build up was so big. The disappointment, as I said,
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  Speaker 2: is palpable, but the over but there is a definitive
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  Speaker 2: overreaction here when you consider I think some stats that
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  Speaker 2: Brad's going to give, and also you still have a
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  Speaker 2: long season ahead of you. But massive disappointment for mountaineer Nation.
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  Speaker 2: Don't get too flipped out, but still it's appropriate to
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  Speaker 2: be emotionally deflated over what happened yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, senator. Are you going to speak? Is he
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  Speaker 1: going to talk on the pod or not? You can't?
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  Speaker 1: Are you ready to go?
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  Speaker 3: Well, trying to find some stuff, trying to find some
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  Speaker 3: different things to talk about, because it's ea to come
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  Speaker 3: on and say what Hoppy just said. That's not a
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  Speaker 3: shot at you, hop.
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  Speaker 1: That's total shot at you right off on a Sunday morning.
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  Speaker 3: Just him right now, easy to say that, and I
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  Speaker 3: get it, and I'm not even you're not wrong. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that was that was disappointing. I was one of the
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  Speaker 3: many that thought, even if you don't win that game,
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  Speaker 3: you would be in that game and it would be
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  Speaker 3: a close game, and there was hope that you'd be
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  Speaker 3: down the stretch and have a game where you're you
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  Speaker 3: have a chance to win that and you just didn't.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll get into more of this as we go.
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  Speaker 3: I just I just wonder when that happened, because it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't at the start of the game. You weren't totally
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  Speaker 3: over match at the start of the game. We went
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  Speaker 3: into halftime yesterday the game and our broadcast and the
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  Speaker 3: headline that jumped to me was missed opportunities. Sure, right,
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  Speaker 3: there were there were some things that both Penn State
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  Speaker 3: did and West Virginia didn't. That that door was open.
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  Speaker 3: There was an opportunity to run through the door and
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  Speaker 3: have that awesome crowd and that peak atmosphere maybe carry
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  Speaker 3: you through a little bit. Ultimately, Penn State was a
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  Speaker 3: better team, and I don't know that there's much doubt
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  Speaker 3: about that. And maybe some of those things in the
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  Speaker 3: first half, if you had taken advantage of them, maybe
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  Speaker 3: they wouldn't have held up in the game, and maybe
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  Speaker 3: Penn State would have ultimately gotten. But I would have
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  Speaker 3: liked to see in West Virginia, when it was presented
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  Speaker 3: with opportunities, take those and get through that door and
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  Speaker 3: make that a game so that when you sit here
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  Speaker 3: on Sunday it's not all doom and gloom. That you
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  Speaker 3: could have come back with some things and said, well,
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  Speaker 3: hold on, take a look at this, and I'll get
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  Speaker 3: we'll talk about what some of those missed opportunities were.
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  Speaker 3: Some of them were missed by other people other than
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia that contributed to that. But West Virginia certainly
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  Speaker 3: didn't do enough, really on either side of the ball
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  Speaker 3: for us to walk away and go, okay, here's what
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  Speaker 3: you got. And that's one of the things I kept
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  Speaker 3: coming back to this morning, guys, as I was diving
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  Speaker 3: through this and going back to thinking about what some
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  Speaker 3: of our questions were. And we talked about this game
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  Speaker 3: for seemingly eight years, and we kept saying I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how many times we said it. We couldn't have
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  Speaker 3: said it anymore. It is going to be hard for
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  Speaker 3: this offensive line to be as good without Zach Fraser
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  Speaker 3: and without Doug Nester, And will West Virginia be able
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  Speaker 3: to run the ball when and where it wants to?
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  Speaker 3: We asked that question. There were not definitive answers. We said,
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  Speaker 3: I said, I won't speak for you too. I want
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  Speaker 3: to see this. I want to see what it looks
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  Speaker 3: like against what will likely be the best defensive line
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  Speaker 3: you face. I walk out the next day and say,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know any more about this offensive line than
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  Speaker 3: I did before that game. I don't have a definitive answer.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they're going to get better, maybe they're going to
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  Speaker 3: have the ability to move people, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: And then some of the things offensively that made West
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  Speaker 3: Virginia really really good last year didn't happen right because
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  Speaker 3: of miscues. You had to back off the motion and
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  Speaker 3: the different sets that they run. So it just, quite frankly,
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  Speaker 3: the game ends. It was a disappointment. It was a
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  Speaker 3: disappointment how they played. But yet I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: to answer the questions we had going in any more
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  Speaker 3: definitively than we did before the game was played.
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  Speaker 2: Makes sense, It makes sense, and also you have to
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  Speaker 2: opponent adjust because that's a really really good defense. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not making excuses, I'm making an observation based on the
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  Speaker 2: talent that we saw Tony on the field yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think that's totally fair. You needed to play
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  Speaker 1: at an extremely high level of efficiency, and plain and simple,
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  Speaker 1: you did not. And Brad'll detail this, i'm sure when
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  Speaker 1: we get into spreads on stats. But the opportunities were
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  Speaker 1: presented there early on in the game which could have
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  Speaker 1: taken you, which could have taken you and your momentum
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  Speaker 1: to a new level, and you kind of settle in
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  Speaker 1: and say, Okay, we're here, we're gonna play. But instead
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  Speaker 1: you come up empty on those opportunities, and as a result,
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  Speaker 1: now you're back pedaling, and when you backpedal, they attacked.
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  Speaker 1: You were not able to respond in ballgame, and obviously
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  Speaker 1: it could have still been a game going into the half.
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  Speaker 1: That last touchdown that they scored with final seconds on
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  Speaker 1: the clock was absolutely just a devastating blow. And we
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  Speaker 1: can get into all of that, the pass leading up
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  Speaker 1: to it and then the actual touchdown pass which I
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  Speaker 1: don't think was a touchdown, and I think there was
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  Speaker 1: a major failure there on behalf of the Big twelve
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  Speaker 1: replay people for a fact. I know, for a fact,
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  Speaker 1: I know that they had issues in they wanted to
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  Speaker 1: stop the game. The game didn't get stopped, bad communication internally,
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  Speaker 1: and then it was too late because the extra point
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  Speaker 1: went up. He didn't catch the ball. He didn't catch
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  Speaker 1: the ball, and they did not do a good job
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  Speaker 1: the officials.
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  Speaker 2: And I want this to be understood clearly, this is
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  Speaker 2: not like, oh, the official. The officials did not have
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  Speaker 2: a good game. The replay didn't have a good game
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  Speaker 2: the officials. This game was not decided by bad officiating,
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  Speaker 2: but it wasn't helped by the I'll say this to you.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on, because hold on, I'm gonna say it right now.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not doing this again. I'm not doing this and
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to read any text people. You save
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  Speaker 3: your text. I'm not I'm gonna do it one time.
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  Speaker 3: If we're going to get up here and say West
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  Speaker 3: Virginia didn't do this, that, and the other, we can
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  Speaker 3: get up here and say the officials were bad. They
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  Speaker 3: did not have a good game. That was offensive pass interference,
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  Speaker 3: that wasn't a replay.
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  Speaker 1: You missed it.
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  Speaker 3: You did a bad job on that. You did a
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  Speaker 3: bad job on that replo screaming about it when it happened.
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  Speaker 3: We can get up here and say the officials did
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  Speaker 3: not cost West Virginia the game, but they had a
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  Speaker 3: poor game. They did not do a good job either.
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  Speaker 3: If we had a pro football focused grade on the officials,
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  Speaker 3: it wouldn't be great. There were some spots one for
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia that you could go, well, West Virginia got that.
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  Speaker 3: I'd hurry uprun the next play. That was not a
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  Speaker 3: great job by the guys and stripes. Pro football focus
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  Speaker 3: grade wouldn't be good.
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  Speaker 1: I would say, I agree with Harriet. I would agree that. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that all the officials cost West Virginia game.
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  Speaker 1: Penn State out played West Virginia no if sands or
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  Speaker 1: butts about it. But I'm saying this today, this Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: when the Big Twelve is doing it's review of how
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  Speaker 1: things went at West Virginia and Penn State, and they're
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  Speaker 1: looking and they're looking at their replay official who was
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  Speaker 1: here running that thing. They're going to have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things that they're going to go back and say,
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  Speaker 1: we screwed that up. We screwed that up. That's the
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  Speaker 1: reality of it. That's what it is. But again not
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  Speaker 1: saying they cost the game, but they too had struggles.
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  Speaker 3: But those are the things. And again I hope people
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  Speaker 3: come to this podcast for some nuance that it's not
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  Speaker 3: just screaming and hollering one way or the other. And
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  Speaker 3: some of that nuance is this. It's a clear offensive
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  Speaker 3: pass interference. I mean, if we're gonna do this, you
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  Speaker 3: got to make that call. It's two hands extended. It
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't have been a fifty five yard pass right down there.
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  Speaker 3: Then you're right the touchdown the end zone. But okay, fine, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: but those change games potentially. If this is thirteen to
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  Speaker 3: six going into halftime, and I'm West Virginia and Neil Brown,
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  Speaker 3: I go into halftime thinking we did not play well
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  Speaker 3: at all. We didn't punch in the first fumble that
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  Speaker 3: we got and scored. We didn't do anything we were
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  Speaker 3: supposed to do. We couldn't snap the ball without running
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  Speaker 3: into the motion guy. We did not look very good.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a top ten team that's only up thirteen
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  Speaker 3: to six. My guess is, even with the delay, more
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  Speaker 3: of the fan base would have stayed your second half.
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  Speaker 3: The atmosphere might have been different. You come out in
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: the second half defensively and have them in third and
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: long two different times that Drew Aler made nice scrambles
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  Speaker 3: and picked up. But what if there's a larger crowd,
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  Speaker 3: what if it's louder, What if that defense is starting
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  Speaker 3: to feel it a little bit more. Those kind of
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  Speaker 3: things can change the whole direction of games. Probably Penn
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  Speaker 3: State still gets that win. They were better and they
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  Speaker 3: probably pull away, but there were a couple major things
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  Speaker 3: that contributed to the game went in a different direction. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia helped take it in a different direction because
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  Speaker 3: they didn't execute, but there were other things too, and
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  Speaker 3: those change games. Those are I think when you look
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  Speaker 3: back and coaches lose their mind and fans lose their
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  Speaker 3: mind about missed opportunities. Those are the things you have
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  Speaker 3: to look out to. And I think if you're having
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  Speaker 3: an adult conversation, you can point out all of the
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  Speaker 3: things that go wrong without getting a million people screaming
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  Speaker 3: it's not the official's fault. Those were factors. If we're
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  Speaker 3: going to be on this podcast and talk about factors
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  Speaker 3: that the motion and the ad snaps is a factor.
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  Speaker 3: The lack of the ability to move people up front
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  Speaker 3: and run where.
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  Speaker 1: You want to.
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  Speaker 3: That was a factor. There were also some some other
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  Speaker 3: factors that contributed to the overall arc of that game.
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  Speaker 3: There just was that's don't disagree.
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  Speaker 1: They don't disagree. I don't either. I agree, I agree,
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  Speaker 1: spot on, spot on, Penn State deserve to win. But
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  Speaker 1: it was clunky, and it was clunky on their part
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  Speaker 3: water there done. But that point is they were surprised
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  Speaker 3: by the size that those things were massive.
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  Speaker 2: I think they called a fumble in the fil called
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  Speaker 2: a fumble. So I looked up the rule and the
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: rule says it's a It is the runner is down
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: when any part of the ball carrier's body except the
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: hand or foot, touches the ground, or when the ball
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: carriers carriers tackled otherwise falls the So what I looked
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: at Brad again I'm going from just watching it from yesterday,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: was that his calf, the calf of his foot I
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: think is the left leg. I think the calf hit
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: the ground, so I would I would guess that was
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: the ruling.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, normally you hear down your knees got to make contacts,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: so down by leg hair apparently is.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: As a situation he shaved it if it could have
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: been one.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Where yeah, those hairs were down, so turn the calls out.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: You thought it was out. I thought it was out.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: It was out, I thought it was out.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: So those are things though, guys, whether whether you agree
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: with the overturn of the call or not, that that
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: goes in that long category of missed opportunities. You know,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: if that stays as it's ruled on the field and
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: you could watch that a thousand times in real time
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: and wouldn't even have remotely thought he was down. That
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: took super slow mo at really high def cameras to
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: be able to see that just above the ankle went down,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: and they're counting that. But that's one of those missed opportunities.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: If that ruling stays as it was, that's massive, And
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: that's we'll talk about that turnover thing, because that was
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: a key to keep every game. It's it's always more
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: of a key, I think early in the season when
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: mistakes are more likely, and neither of these teams turned
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: it over a lot last last year. So the fact
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: that West Virginia got one early and then gave it
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: right back massive missed opportunity. The fact that you got
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: one and it was called fumble on the field and
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: it's reversed, massive missed opportunity there, So that goes in
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: that big bucket of missed opportunities for WVU.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: You're ready to do your numbers? Yeah, did you have
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: any aha moments when you put them together? No kind
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: of what you thought.
• 18:15
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• 18:18
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• 18:22
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• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Let's start no particular order. I'm just going to bounce
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: around on some different things. Some of these are recaps
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: or looks back at things we talked about leading into
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: the week what happened. One of these is if you
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: want to try and niche this down into an area
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: that was a stark contrast and one of the leading
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: keys to the game, we'll do that, and then we'll
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: look at some of the early PFF grades that I
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: always let me get my standard disclaimer when we started
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: doing this podcast on Sunday mornings last year. I'll have
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: some information here. These grades, by the time you listen
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: to them, are are changing in a little bit fluid
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: as these get updated by them throughout, so this kind
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: of gives you a good overall picture. They'll be in
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: the ballpark of what you think, but there is sliding scale,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: so you don't have to tweet me coming up tomorrow
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: afternoon and say somebody's grade totally changed. Yes, they're going
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: to totally change or going to change some happy we
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: talked about, or I said one of my biggest questions
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: going into this was about Penn State's offense and how
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: it would look. We said offensive coordinator Andy cotle Nicky's
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: name more than we've said Neil Brown's name. He was
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: on TV more yesterday than there has been more talking.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: We have said cotal Nicky more than Neil Brown. I
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: think it's unbelievable. My question was what would they try
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: and do. Would they try and just do what they
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: did against West Virginia last year, where it was more
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: vanilla and they took what was offered to them through
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: the football and handle WVU, or would they take the
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: off season criticism they received and try and show everybody,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Hey we're different, Hey we can do some things. Hey
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: we're going to have some motion in shifts. Hey we're
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: going to play two quarterbacks. Hey we're going to be different. Well,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: guess what happened in the first half. They got cute
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: a lot, and Hapy I thought it was a huge
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: advantage for West Virginia. I thought each time they got
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: cute it came back to bite them. There were some
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: things that they did that were working that they then
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: stopped doing to show emotion to bring the second quarterback in,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: which then caused a fumble when Aler came back in.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: So I thought the door was wide open there. They
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: were listening to the criticism and reacting to it. I thought,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: rather than just playing what was given to them, and
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: I thought it was working to West Virginia's advantage. You
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: just couldn't take advantage of that. One of the things
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: we said all off season, they're getting crushed for not
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: throwing the ball downfield, for not having big playability. They
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: are absolutely going to try and do that. They are
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: going to react to that criticism and try and silence
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: it early. So one of the numbers we talked about,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: you were all over this knowing the acronym A dot
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: A dot average depth of target. Didn't have to explain
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: it like I just did there because you, of course
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: knew that you look at a dot. I assume quite regularly.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: You're very versed in that on my phone.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Last year Drew Aller's average depth of target was just
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: eight yards downfield, not very deep, hoppy. We said, on
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: when do we do our preview episode Friday? Maybe we
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: at some point from May on, I said, Andy cotal
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Nikki's KU team last year was top five and average
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: depth of target. Their average depth of target at Kansas
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: last year twelve point three yards downfield. You figured that
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: was going to increase. They were going to look to
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: get it down. Would you like to take a guess
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: on what the average depth of target was yesterday for
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Penn State twelve twelve point five, almost dead on what
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Kansas's was for the season last year. Now, again, some
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: of that's aided by the fifty five yard hail Mary,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: so it may have skewed that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: But they they did what you thought they would do.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: They tried to push the ball further downfield in that area.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Here's something that was a massive, massive, glaring problem first
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: down production. Penn State's average yards per play on first
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: down yesterday eight ouch. Conversely, West Virginia's average yards per
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: play on first down just three. So this West Virginia
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: offense is predicated on staying on schedule and giving the
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: defense problems. Right then the playbook opens when it's second
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: and six, when it's third and four, then you're the
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: defense saying, I don't know what they're going to do.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: They have a lot of options. When you're averaging second
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: and seven. That throws the whole thing off. Then you
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: saw and you heard Neil talk about it after, but
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: you could see this if you were watching the game,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: because of the miscommunication on the snap the one time
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: hitting Jaden Bray, and then you saw it another time
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: where Jahem White was crossing Garrett's face and it threw
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: the timing off there. They backed down some of the
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: motion and the shifts that made that offense so good
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: last year. That also affected that right when you just
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: couldn't get into your full offense yesterday. But that first
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: down production is obviously going to be a problem, and
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: so I'm sure something the staff is looking at here
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: this more in that first half. Go back to average
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: up the target and talk about this for a second.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Penn State's first half passing yards one hundred and fifteen
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: of their one sixty seven came on the two big plays,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: the fifty yard catch and run and the fifty five
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: yard hail Mary. So sixty nine percent of their passing
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: yards came on two plays. So hop you were right
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: in your macro a take. What I'm trying to do
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: is okay. I know that's that's the easy thing to say,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: and I'm not disputing that that West Virginia did not
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: do well enough in any area. But if you try
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: and go back and say, were there spots that could
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: have gone different with a few plays or were you
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: thirty plays off? I look at that and say, my gosh, dang,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: what could have been different without some of those. I mean,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: that's seventy percent of their passing yards came on two plays.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Were you really getting killed in the passing game? Because
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I felt you were right. I felt watching the game
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: that the defensive backs weren't where they were supposed to be.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Guys were running two wides, open drew allers, hitting shots.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: You're not handling yourself back. Was it as bad as
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: you thought it was? I don't know. The numbers tell you.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe it wasn't. Penn State averaged three and a half
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: yards per carry in the first half. I felt like
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: they were doing anything they wanted offensively. Maybe that wasn't
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: the case. Maybe they did do a good job of
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: having enough explosive plays that that was the difference in
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: the game. We talked red zone and Neil talked red
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: zone efficiency all off season. Tony right West Virginia had
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: three drives of ten plus plays that got down into territory.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: One they gave back on downs, two others they settled
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: for field goals. I thought that came to fruition, right.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: You punched those in the first half, and even with
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: the hail Mary that happened, you're in that game. If
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: those are touchdowns, you're in the game. If two of
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: the three are touchdowns instead of field goals, you're right
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: there down a touchdown, even with all that happened on
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: the other side. So I guess that's what I'm trying
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: to do, is I go through this and provide some
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: other context that how far off were you from a
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: team that, yes, is probably gonna have a legitimate shot
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: at the playoffs?
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: How far off were well that?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I think that's a very fair question, and I think
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: that your numbers reflect that. One of the things, Brad,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: that Garrett Green was fifteen to twenty eight. You look
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: at that for you know, one sixty one along with
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: twenty five, and well, Green didn't have a green day
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: and was not successful running the ball. But also again
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: opponent adjusted, because I can't recall a game Tony and
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Brad where the defensive backs of the other team were
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: that good. I mean, there was not open receivers for
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: West Virginia running well. It seemed like every pass was contested.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Those d backs are really good.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're stingy. You consider this the two games that
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: West Virginia's played against Penn State now in each of
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the last two years, zero touchdown passes. That's a stingy defense, right.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: That's a defense that a year ago set an all
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: time school record for tackles, for sacks, tackles behind the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. Extremely good. That's a really good defense.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: The thing we don't know, right because in Week one
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: everyone over reacts one way or the other. You don't
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: know if this Penn State team will in fact be
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: better than last year's Penn State team. You do know
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: they got they got a lot of NFL guys on
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that field, and we saw that defensively. I mean, I've
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: not seen ends explode like Abdull Carter was exploding. Now,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: he was a human, he was a human penalty. I
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: get that part of it. But he did nothing to me.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: I'll say this. You want to talk about guys that
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: were great, Wyatt Mylan's draft stock went up and Deil
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Carter's name was not called. They handled him. Why they lost?
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Why, I did a fantastic job. However, Carter's presence on
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: that field, I mean you take a look at quarterback pressures.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: He he made things more difficult, especially in the second half.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Why I did a good job. Why I did a
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: good job. But I'm just saying, and the other guy
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: on the other end, I.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Mean, head a better game.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he also was problematic. And say they were bringing heat,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: is what I'm saying.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought. I thought the middle of the line
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: was more of the concern. I thought there was a
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: lot of pressure up there. I thought you handled Carter
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: as well as it can. He was the lowest graded
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: defender for Penn State yesterday. So you told me that
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: going into the game, I'd say, you got a great
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: chance to do that. The defensive backs were outstanding. I
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: was hoping going into this you'd see West Virginia with
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: more open lanes to throw the ball. I thought their
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: coverage is really good. But again, it all stems backwards
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: from the offense not being able to run it where
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: and when it wants. This. West Virginia passing game is
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: predicated on that and sucking safeties down and having to
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: prevent the run. Then you throw over the top. Western
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: he didn't have the ability to do that. No deep shots,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: no deep shots were available to it. It didn't have that.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Garrett Green had zero scramble yards. Say it again, Garrett
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Green had zero quarterback scramble rushing yards. That's what this
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: offense is built upon, too. His ability to make big
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: plays and whether that was the spy they put on
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: him that showed great speed a couple times in tracking
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: guys down, you just were disjointed enough offensively that it
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: didn't come together.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: There was a play I think was symbolized that quality
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: defense by Penn State, and it was Green running to
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the right, and I think I think it was Reid
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: that just shot over there. And Garret Green is a fast,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: shifty guy, and Reid just shot over there and made
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: a tackle. That's a that's a guy making a play.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that play?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: No, absolutely, I do. They've got really good players. Hey,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: here's a news break. They got a really they got
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: really good players. Explosive players, fast players, strong players. You
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: don't want to say this, okay, but how many of
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: West Virginia's players would start on Penn State's team. Not many.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: How many Penn State players would start on West Virginia
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: A lot of them. That's the reality of it. That
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't beat them. But what I just
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: what we've been talking about, you better play at an
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: extremely high level of efficiency. And you did. You didn't.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: You didn't, you didn't execute.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: And Neil Brown, again Brown being Brown, took responsibility because
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: the first thing that people were going to say is, well,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: you weren't prepared to play, and I don't know how
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't be after all this time. But Neil Brown
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: took responsibility. Staff took responsibility.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: So a couple bright spots defensively, I thought Jeremiah Trotter
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: was probably as advertised right there? What did I say,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Jeremiah brother Josiah Trotter cousin was really was really good.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Leading highest graded defender for West Virginia. Roo Football Focus
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: does a puts a stat out called stops. It's tackles
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: that constitute a failure for the offense. I like to
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: look at those just to see kind of big plays defensively.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Trotter led West Virginia was seven. That's a big number
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: in one game. So Josiah Josiah Trotter was was as
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: advertised there. T J. Jackson had a couple of plays,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: right Tony, you probably call his name a few times
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: fumble recovery. He was in there. Not a lot of
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: great pressure from anybody on West Virginia's team, but he
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: was in there a couple of times, so that that
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: could set up well going down the line. So not
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: a ton to go through on that, not not a
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: ton of grades to reflect upon. But I thought those
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: two are in particular, kind of showed you. We talked
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: a lot about both of them. There's something there. Took
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: the ball away from out there. You took it away
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: from them.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Hmmm.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: That's about it. I can go forever, but that's those
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: are kind of the highlights of some of the numbers
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: that jumped.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I got some numbers. Okay, I want to hear my thought. Absolutely. Okay,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: So what you're You're a big history guy, right? You
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: always tried you always tried me for not being like
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: really big into history, do I yeah? You do? You
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: say like you know your history? What does history? Is that?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: What I say? You don't follow them? No? So I
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: did want to put this thing into perspective, this whole
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Penn State two games set that West Virginia just completed.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: And I talked to a long time WVU fan last
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: night after the game was over and he said very
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: similar to what you said when you started today. He said, well,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that's Penn State, that's what you's That's just what it's
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: been through the years, and the reality of it is,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: it is what it has been through the years. West
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Virginia is now nine and fifty and two against Penn State.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: So you've only beaten them nine times three times in
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the mid fifties. Doneland got him twice eighty four and
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: eighty eight. But I did a deeper dive. Oh okay,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I did a deeper dive. Ready, yes, So here's what
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I got so Donealum played donnelm played Penn State twelve
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: times and he was two and ten all time against
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Penn State. In the games that he played against Penn State,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: West Virginia was outscored three seventy one to one ninety
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: four for an average final score of thirty one to sixteen.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: The last two seasons, West Virginia's been outscored by Penn
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: State thirty six to fourteen. But I went deeper, okay,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I said, last year Penn State was ranked seven. This
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: year they were ranked eight, seven to eight. So I said,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: what happened when coach Neelan played Penn State when they
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: were ranked in the top eight. They're good teams. It
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: happened four times and West Virginia was outscored, they were beaten,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: they were rolling four, they were outscored one twenty seven
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: to thirteen, wow, or thirty two to four in those games.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: The last two years, West Virginia has been outscored seventy
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: two to twenty seven or thirty six to fourteen. Okay,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: So does history repeat itself? I mean, it's here's the reality,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: and it's difficult because people get emotional, especially when the
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: game has just been played. But the reality of it is,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Penn State was really really good under Joe Paterno. Okay,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: and they're really really good again right now. That was
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: a ten win football team which returned its quarterback, both
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: of its running backs, a lot of that receiving talent,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the defense was excellent, and they're really really good again.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: And to beat West Virginia, to beat Penn State, if
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: you go back to the two games the coach did
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: beat them in eighty four and in nineteen eighty eight.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: You take a look at the eighty four game, West
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Virginia was ranked eighteen in the country and Penn State
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: was ranked nineteen. That was the seventeen to fourteen victory.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: And when you go to eighty eight season Penn State
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: came in, they weren't ranked at all. That year. West
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Virginia was seven and the Mountaineers pounded them fifty one
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: to thirty. But the reality of it is, when Penn
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: State's been really good, they've dominated not just West Virginia
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: but a lot of schools. But that's the reality of it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: That was my take on.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Well that, Tony, you're you're exactly right, and I appreciate
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: your reference to history. And their arc has been one
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: of greater success than West Virginia for most of that time,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: for ninety percent of that time, and that's who they
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: are typically year in and you're out better players, bigger program,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: more success. You know, James Franklin, they're on his butt
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: all the time. He's been to New Year's Day Bulls,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: He's been there. This is eleventh year, I think five times,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: you know, ten wins last year. But people are honked
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: off because they don't beat Ohio State in Michigan. But
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean they haven't been very very successful, and
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: they just they are just typically better. So when West
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Virginia does win, it's an aberration. Yeah, and you didn't
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: get that aberration yesterday.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: What Joe Paternal the famous quote the Paternal had someone said,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: when's West Virginia going to beat you? He said, when
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: they get better players? That honked off a lot of people.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: But that's the truth. It's the reality. They've had better
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: players through the years. And you take your swing. You
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: had your swing yesterday, And as Brad said correctly, it's
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: this very super fine line if you're going to pull
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: off one of these and you didn't do it when
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the opportunity was presented to you early in the game
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: in the red zone, you didn't get it done, and
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: as a result, you end up on what you did.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: That's it all right, settled that I'm ready to do
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me what you were there? Yeah? Was it Daimes?
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  Speaker 1: I think you were at the Uh.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I think you say to Phil, because Phil was hopping
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: this weekend.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: He was busy. He was busy. I think you were
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: at the food court more than I was.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think yeah he yeah, you did you one?
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: You know what, I had a wonderful time.
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  Speaker 1: People love you.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not sure about that, but I mean I
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  Speaker 2: had a great time because and it comes back to
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  Speaker 2: the connection three or four and in in the job
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: that I do full time, Uh, there is a fair
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: amount of acrimony that that that goes on daily. And
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: you know, Braett, I go to the to our food
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: court and and everybody is just happy and there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of joy and people having the food is good.
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  Speaker 2: The connection three oh four is good and you're just
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  Speaker 2: talking to people and they're excited because it's it gets
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: it totally into the connection three oh four, because this
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: is an attraction people want to like, I'm coming to
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: the Penn State game, and you know, I came from Denver,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: and I came from Columbus, and I came from North
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Carolina and people come here and they're so happy to
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: be here. And then I'm talking to them and they're
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I get great joy.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's really well said that because that that's a
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: that's a good way to describe what it what it
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: was like over there and what it is people. People
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: are just happy. Yeah right, there's not the angst to
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: get other places there was just people were happy. So
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: you told me, I'm in a nice couple. They in family,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: They had their kids there too. Drove up from Charleston
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: just to eat, have a beer, and we're driving back.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: They weren't even staying for the game. He just came
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: all the way up, which was awesome. Talk to them
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: for quite a while. Talk to somebody about that too.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you did.
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  Speaker 2: But I was at Daniels. I saw they had the
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  Speaker 2: new Peter Malar.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Oh. Yeah, it's all in. Yeah, it's all in. All right.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Here we go looking at the discount section last year's stuff.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: First guys, Yeah you can first up text family divided,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: got some Penn State and West Virginia people. My favorite
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: part of that picture is that little kid and the tailgate.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: There you got a kid in the tail looks like
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: you got photos shopped in there.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: He's the smartest one of all of them, right, He's
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: just laying in there like, I'll take the picture, but
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I'm staying right here.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Did they forget about him though the game?
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: He gave me, here's what you're gonna do. I'm gonna
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: lay right here as I am. You four or five
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: are gonna move over closer to me. Yeah, that's all
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: done by him. Shout out the little sparky there in
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: the back hatch. Text her, Hey, fella, has been a
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: while since I checked in. I had a little tidbit
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: that might make you smile. I was packing for an
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: upcoming move. My wife said, I really needed to go
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: through my clothes try him on before we packed this stuff.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: As it turns out, one particular pair of khaki shorts
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: that no longer quite buttoned at the top inside the
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: right pocket was a ticket. You can take that picture off,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: thank you. It was from the ninety three Miami game.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Miami game. As it turns out, she was right. I
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: do keep things too long. But luckily she doesn't listen
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: to the show, so I can tell you that without
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: her hearing. Love the Show, Jeff and Parkersburg. That's the
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• 40:41
  Speaker 1: He's a bread I got a bread route. Yeah.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I guess never washed those shorts either, or it clearly
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: didn't wear them gladly.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Ninety six, that's twenty is ninety three? The ninety three? Yeah, Miami?
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: What was the ninety three game? Beat him? Robert Walker?
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Left side, Robert Walker toward the hospital, touchdown. Good meeting.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Josh from Oddres State Park pregame texts, let's go Mountaineers.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Look at those two little qties? Hey? Now does Phil
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: sell that stuff too? There, Daniel, I don't.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Know if he's got it in that size.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Go cute thing, adorable. Texter Thurston from Charlotte, Love the Show.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: You guys are great connection to a place I called
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: home for fifteen years. Now. I'm not saying now, I'm
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: not saying this guy is falling at halftime of game one,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: but could you all tell me what Neil's best win
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: has been. I'll save you some time. Other than the
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: bowl game against a depleted UNC, he's been a beating
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a sixteenth ranked KSE state team that finished four and six,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: twenty two ranked Iowa State team finished seven and six,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: and a fifteenth ranked VPI that finished six and seven.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: These are the best wins the program has had under
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: his guy. And why did we get our hopes up
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: for this guy?
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Love the show because he's the right guy, because he's
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: the right guy, and he's built this program. Yesterday was
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: a was a significant disappointment, but last year you saw
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: what's possible. Just hang on here, just let's not let's
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: not get let's not panic here.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: This is year this is his year three. That's right,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: he had those Yeah, as we say, this is the
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: old cliche. Team gets better. Let's do it. Let's do
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: an evail after one month, Let's do anoir vail after
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: a month.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: There's gonna be some challenge, sure, you know in the
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: some of those things that is always it. What's your
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: best win? What's a good win? What's what he defines
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: a good win? Because all those were good wins at
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: the time. So maybe the season goes a different way
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: for say good wins. At the time, it seems to
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: be only a big game when people want to criticize.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: It's only a big game when you lose. It Like,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: if they're ranked, it's a good win. I don't care
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: what it ends. If they ranked, it's a good win.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Right enough, move on next in a weather delay text here,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: maybe it's time for West Virginia to start to consider
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: scheduling openers against non p fives or FCS's. These are
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: openers like the likes of Penn State, Alabama, Tennessee aren't
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: doing West Virginia favors. I realized that they were set
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: a long time ago. But geez, opening every season with
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: a loss is depressing. You're right, we'll talk more about that.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, you're going to get into that, because we
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: talked about that a lot yesterday.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: It's malfeasance, is what it was. It was stupid. Now
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: just lay the crap right straight out on the table.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: This was badly done by the administration and it's irresponsible
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: to do this. You're the only school in the country
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: that has played eleven Power fives now Power fours four
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: consecutive years. That's stupid. It's dumb, and it's not where
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: we should be. Don't be dumb.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: You could play Penn State in the opener, but not
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: play pint.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Correct, you play one out of your three? Play one?
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at this badge. We followed the schedule yesterday, right,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: we saw what I was gonna say.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know that I have to jump Out's what
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: I screamed about on our show yesterday for an hour
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: about that. That's here. I'll boil it down even further
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: than that. It's just here's the deal. West Virginia shouldn't
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: be an outlier in scheduling. Yes, you shouldn't say that.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: If Georgia wants to do that right now, five West
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Virginia's not at a point. And until you are rewarded
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: in college football like you are in college basketball for
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: a strength to schedule, you don't need to do that.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: You don't need to do that. Fans will come to
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: other games. That's been proven. Right, everybody wants to stand
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: up and bash the old Big East. When West Virginia
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: was five to seven, you know what, you know what
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: was happening in five and seven in the stands. Yes,
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: people were coming. Yes, so you can't have that both ways.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think, I mean Tony is right in that.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: And listen, I understand the theory. If you didn't have
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: any regional opponents on your schedule in the Big Twelve,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: you're trying to get some in to play too. Just
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: it shouldn't be where you are and West Virginia again,
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: I will just wrap with what I started with Wes
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Virginia shouldn't be an outlier when it comes to the
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: schedule strength. You don't get any benefit.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: For agreed doctor ed from the Mayo Bowl State. So
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: we were lied to about how improved past defense was
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: going to be question mark? And what about the play
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: calling Garrett on a fourth down quarterback sneak with a
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: narrow offensive line split against the number one rush d
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: from last season. Please, Joey from Charlotte Love the pod, guys,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: tell me how a tush push with your one hundred
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and ninety pounds quarterback makes sense on fourth down. Neil
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: addressed that ya Hey did and said it was bad
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: execution staying up tall instead of going down low and.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Roading ran it last year with success.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Sure, Texter, I hate to say it, guys, but it
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: looks like the same old crap, can't win kicking field
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: goals and both lines getting pushed around. The fans did
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: their part, The university did theirs, the town did theirs.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Pat McAfee and several alums did theirs. The team didn't
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: do theirs. Sugarcoated all you want, but it continues to
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: be the same over and over. Pay a lot of
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: money and donate a lot of money. The team has
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: to step up well.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Neil Brown addressed and said that they were massively disappointed.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: They did not perform up to expectations. That is a fact,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: and then people can decide whether or not they want
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: to continue to support. I just would not get freaked
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: out about a poor performance. I think the X I
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: think well just that I said what I.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Said Ted from Colorado Dangerous in game text. My question,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: are we a worse football team than last year? Or
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: is Penn State really improved? This State's pretty good. TBA
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: don't know yet.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, TBA, that's what I was hoping to find out
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: more about West Virginia, and I said that earlier in
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: the show. I feel like I walked away from that
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: not and again you're not getting a total answer after
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: one game. But I felt like it would be in
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: a better position today to see. Are the receivers that
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: much improved from last year? Is the offensive line? While
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: while it may not be the number one power rushing
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: team in power for this season, is it in the ballpark?
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Can it still do what it was to do. I
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: don't feel like I have much more data than I
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: did going into that game.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: I was speaking of a run game. I was stunned.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Jahim White came back in the game.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that did not look good when he went out, stunned.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Scary Glad he did, Yeah, obviously, Texter.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I know y'all are going to get a lot of
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: negative texts about Neil and you're probably going to stick
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: up for him. You're probably going to say that he
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: gets a pass for this one because Penn State is good.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I'm just guessing. Feel free to disregard this if it's
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: not the case. It's as simple as this. In year six,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: you should be competitive with anyone at home. There's no
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: well Penn State is good argument, we should be good.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: If we're not good, he shouldn't be the coach. Nobody
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: in the past fifty plus years of WVU football has
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: lasted as long with his little proof of concept as Brown.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Let me, can I please please to your point you
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: said it's in simple in year six, you should be
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: competitive with anyone at home. No, Penn State is good argument.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: All right, let's use some facts. Year six, don nealon
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: was beaten by Penn State twenty seven to nothing. But
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: that was at state college. So let's go to year seven.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Don Neelan was beaten in Morgantown by Penn State nineteen
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: to nothing. You do the math. It doesn't matter if
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: you're year six or year seven. It matters who you're playing,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: what they are, and where you are. So year six,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: year seven, just because years don't necessarily mean any of that,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: that's the reality of it. His year six and his
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: year seven was a combined score of forty six to nothing.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Don Neelan's a great coach all time, winning as coach
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: in West Virginia history, one of the greatest of all
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: time in the game of college football. But that's the
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: reality of it.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Well, and I think you also have to have realistic
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: expectations in that in that you're not going to be
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: You are not on the same level, nor can you
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: be on the same level unless there's some oddity with
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, Alabama, probably Penn State. Because you
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: haven't been historically, so what would change. So I don't
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: think you should be. I don't think you should expect
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: to be on that level. You can hope to have
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: a win occasionally in right circumstances, but it's not realistic
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: to think that you are on that level because you
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: know what, all but about ten teams are not on
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: that level.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Agreed in game text alert, but not in the way
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: you think. Despite all the bologney surrounding college football today,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: once the band takes the field, the ball is in
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: the air, It's still the game we love. I think
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: today's result was the result of the talent Penn State
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: had and too many mounts near mistakes. There's a lot
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: of season left, Texter Jesse from Southwest Virginia. Looks like
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: it might be a long year. We'll see Texter. Hey,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: three guys. Jordan from Morgantown. In these times of heartache,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I find comfort in making memes. There's a meme for you,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: hop on the board, cat and a hat with a bat, Texter,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: this one really stings. I spent the entirety of the
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: lightning delay with Rusty from Mountaineer Roasting, a fellow charlestonner
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: and friend. We talked the delay over, hoping that would
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: lead West Virginia to momentum boost. Unfortunately we had our
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: dreams crushed. At least, a free cup of coffee from
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: the man himself lifted my spirits after the game. But
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: losing isn't fun, no matter what I thought, you know,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: after coming through the weather delay last year against Dukewesny,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: that maybe West Virginia would come out of that locker
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: room and crank it up. But the Nitney scored on
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: that first possession. Yeah, that was big of the third quarter,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: and that was a shot below the belt.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and pretty pretty wild. Again, you talk about plays
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: that make a big difference, maybe in the outcome of
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: the game. You came out defensively and we're there. You
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: forced him on that drive Tony two long third down
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: situations that you then had great coverage on the back
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: end and in the first half of your own know
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: what's going on to the defense, there were there was
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: great coverage, he had nowhere to throw it. Aler takes
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: off and scrambled with his legs, picked up two of
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: those first downs. Give him credit. You get off the
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: field in either of those third down situations, maybe you
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: string something together. So again, those were a couple of
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: the moments I'm talking about that it was there for you,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: you just didn't make the play when you needed to.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: And Tony, you like to talk about when the score
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: is when there's about a thirteen point swing difference, when
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: it's like twenty to six, that next score is so determinative, detriminative,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: so so significant.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: The middle eight, the middle eight, right, the last four
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: minutes of the second quarter, the first four minutes of
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: the third quarter, West Virginia lost the game. That's where
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: you win, that's where you lose. That was devastating yesterday.
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• 52:49
  Speaker 1: it switched over to the replay of twenty twenty two
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Baylor football game. I'm listening to Tony called Catches by
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Caden Prather of WVU and Drones, who quarterbacking for Baylor. Meanwhile,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I've got my TV silence and I'm going back and
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: forth between Maryland's football game where Pray there's playing Virginia
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: text football game where Drones is the quarterback. It really
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  Speaker 1: drove home how the transfer portal has changed the college game.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: That's all. I love the show follow up? How on
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: the heck was replay review so bad? I feel like
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: West Virginia got the better end of the mistakes in
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: this game, But what is the point of replay if
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: they can't do better than that?
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Did you say you alluded to something there, Tony? And
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: I'm just curious, so was there a technical issue with
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: the replaying?
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a technical issue. Let's say, so, you know,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: but you don't feel comfortable. So let's just say this.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I think this is factual, so they can't come back
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: and say this isn't true. Let's just say the person
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: that was in charge of replay in Morgantown was doing
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: it for the first time. Okay. Let's say that. Okay,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: may have had some struggles there, of which which monitor
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: How do I get the look from that that?
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, with all due respect, giving the magnitude of
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: the game and the relevance to the conference, or you know,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have been the.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: May have brought maybe probably want to bring someone else,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: and let's let them do the with all due respect.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: The Tarlington State game against Baylor, all due respect, with
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: all due respect to athletic director Steve Urius there at
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Tarleton three points three guys. When West Virginia loses a
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: generational player like Zach Frasier Major or pat people tend
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: to think we can just replace them and be almost
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: as good in the next year. It never happens. Better
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: news I had some REVKEV five star brisket, and of
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: having lived in Tennessee and Texas for nine years of
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: my life, he can compete with any SEC state. He
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: is that good best news. Yeah, a shout out to Revkev.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: The two Power five out of conference game schedules are
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: behind us. For whoever got us in those contracts, well
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: to say it nicely, I'm glad that Reren Baker is
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: now at the Helm beat Pitt Stephen Tennessee. Two things.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: One we will I think we'll be talking about the
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: pit game going forward.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Loom was extremely large right now.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Second is whoever thought of the delivery system with Rev keV?
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Of the barbecue the single contained pretty smart, brilliant. Yeah,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: because you know when you're dealing with barbecue, it's just
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: like it's a thing.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe gets heavy and it falls off.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Amendous. I had I had it Friday. I had it
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Friday with with the beef. It's good eating the brisket. Well, yeah,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: good eating. Well done, Texter. Well that wasn't that food?
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: That food was good over there. I took some Duca
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: from the wine Bars meatball you know we love those meatballs.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: I had those two, took down some of those. Did
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: you guys notice Brownie House was there Friday? Did you
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: see the three guys Brownie They had one for us well,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: sure didn't see it.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah it chocolate brownie, little rice, crispy layer chocolate.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: Hope they come back, hope they're there again. I would go, well,
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: give me a little chocolate.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I'm a regular as you know. At the tail game. Texter, Well,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: that wasn't the game we hoped for. I grew up
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania eighties and nineties. There's no team I want
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: to beat more than Penn State. We didn't play well,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: struggled against a good team, the best team we will
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: play this year. However, we could not ask for better
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: exposure for the team University of the State from a
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: nationally televised three hour PEP rally that ended with a
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: million dollar gift to Country Roads Trust. From Pat McAfee
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: to Big Noon Saturday national broadcast. It was still a
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: great weekend to be a mountaineer, wherever we may be.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Ben in Chicago, Brad Tony and the Hopster loved the
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: box at REVCVS. Oh yeah, so there's the box barbecue
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: you put in? He said he had corn cake brisk
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: it topped it off with some coalslaw bacon, green onions.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Definitely a great game day meal. Brandon Herndon Virginia. Yeah,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: that's it man, Thank you, Brandon Howdy. Three Mountaineer Musketeers
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Andrew in Yukon, Oklahoma, by the way of Parkersburg. Check
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: this one out with the world famous Tutors. Biscuit World
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: is the new sponsor of this calamity. I started a
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: new game day tradition with my little mountaineer Brody. A
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: couple of mountaineers right there in their house eating, a
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: couple of mountaineers about to watch our mountaineers.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Well done.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: It is not like Tutors makes it, but close enough.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: So he's in Colorado there he tried to emulate the
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: mountaineer biscuit. Yeah. I need to hit up my fellow
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: wv okie Jeff Press Virginia and see if we can
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: franchise a Tutors out here in Oklahoma. There was a
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: This was a pregame pick. You good, Andrew. There you go.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: It's not a postgame pick. And Brody and I, as
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: well of our mountaineer nation more in the loss, but
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: we must keep our heads up, stay positive for the
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: boys in Golden Blue. Not the first time we've lost
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: a game. Still had a positive season. Stay on the course.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Let's go my only real sadness is I don't have
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: a way to get any Connection three to zero four
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: beer to enjoy with my next Mountaineer. Well that was
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: a hit, Oh was it? That was a hit?
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Connection three or four, everybody loved the beer,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: yours truly included was just like that. Just what we
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: saw there is the like father son connection or a
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: mother daughter father daughter, and it's like passing it on
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: the tradition. I always go to Mountaineer games. Now I'm
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: taking my son or my daughter. I mean that is
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: that's heartwarming.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: I'll so you again like the name and the brand
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: and how it ties into the whole thing.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: It is absolutely perfect. I agree with you. It's getting uh,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: it's gooding getting good predictions or it's good even reviews
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: on the I heard that from Jim. I think really
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: good on untapped.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not just good, really good.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Right. The new beer that we debuted has a over
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: four point zero grade on untapped. That's really good. It's
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: four four out of five, is that right? Yes? Yeah,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: So if you get over a four from what I understand,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: that's really really good. They're gonna do our We're going
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: to do our best to have cans back in there
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: this weekend for the tailgate and definitely going to have
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: it on draft. But the folks at Parkersburg Brewing, they've
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: got all of their elves making batches as we speak.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't know the elk.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: I didn't down that early. Given the response that was coming,
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: I think they are trying to ramt production because it's
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: also going to be distributed here statewide asap as well
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: as that process continues. So I had an efforting there
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: ask everybody what they thought.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Great reviews at the tailgate one this was this was
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: unique because I asked one young man, I said, what
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: do you think of this?
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: He says, this beer is crushable? Yeah, that's like the
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: now easy easy I mean yeah, drink response, Please drink responts.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Just one of the one thousand texts I'm sure to say.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: I think in today's environment, with the staff in particular,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: West Virginia has its best days behind it. However, beat
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Pitt Kansas and this fan base will come back around Grant.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: From parkers I'm not ready to buy into that.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: There just my brother and I. My brother and I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: took the opportunity to take in the Pat McAfee show Friday,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: and then the tailgate Friday evening. While we were there,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: I crushed a meat box with mac and cheese, bacon,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: shredded cheese, pulled chicken. My brother did the same thing,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: except he got the tater tots. We had a good
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: conversation with Brad about an over under we had come up.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: The over under was two and a half on procedure
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: penalties on Penn State, which I do believe hit and
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: all of us took the over so that's a plus. Now.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: As for the game, it is what it is. We
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: lost by twenty two this year, we lost by twenty
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: three last year and we still won nine games. No
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: need to panic, just need to take care of biz
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. Keep improving. Let's go James and
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Grafton the keychain.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Guy, and thanks Fellas he made us those three guys keychain.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I still have it yeap.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: By the way, the state of West Virginia was represented
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: on Friday. Revenue Secretary and State Treasurer Cannt Larry Pack
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: was there.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: At the food court.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: At the food anyone doing an audit or anything, No,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: but it's good to happen there because he's the revenue
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: secretor so if there was a liquor license issue.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: He could have taken he could take care of it.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: Right there, we said we were trying to help the
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: state's economy. We were generate, helping to generate revenue. Absolutely,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: thank you, Jersey, Thanks everybody that came by. That was
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: Oh that was awesome. Again, every every day we were
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: all there at some points throughout the each day, and
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: it it to your point, it was what we had
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: hoped it would be. Right, people coming in and out, conversation,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: good food, good drink, everybody hanging Yeah.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Really great.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: So thank you to everybody that made that effort.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: We probably need next this is this is a tony
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: thing because I'm going to say something we might need
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: unless we just keep shuttling in and out of I'm
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: looking Phil's bathroom.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Urinal, Yeah, like a sandy pot or something. Hey,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: probably effort that get home with Dave on that. Yeah,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: he's got nothing else, nothing, He's doing nothing else. You know.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: He said he had a four day weekend. Well yeah,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if Urinal, I don't know
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: if the portage on companies opening on labor he had
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: done that four day weekend. I got a text from
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: him this morning about before not it was before seven thirty,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: and he gave me the whole rundown, so he's already working.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: By the way, we're gonna be We're going to be
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: open again this week, this time just Friday and Saturday.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Thankfully to a degree, we have a night game, which
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: means we can be opened really long on Saturday. So
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: we'll be open like four until around nine ish on Friday,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: and then we'll open up. Was it a time, Bratt eight?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: I think eight on Saturday up until you know, near
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: game time four five ish, So you can get you
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: can come in if you're coming in just Saturday, or
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: if you want to come over Friday. We'll be around
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: its home, mis Dave.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: He was there like fifteen hours each every.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Day, all right, Yeah, he stays the whole time Alliday's
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: old time, Texter. How does a team come out in
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: the home environment like that and lay an egg? It
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't the loss that bothered me as much as the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: lack of poise. This is supposed to be what Neil
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: has been building toward with a group of veterans. No
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: leadership on the field to day by the veterans. Was
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Garrett not feeling well? Josiah Trotter is going to be
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: a good one. J P.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Parkersburg Texter Ell Short fell short of expectations.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I allowed for my emotions to settle down before hitting
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: the text line. Here's the clear headed, objective truth, says
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: a Texter. Penn State's defense is elite. Neil's playing calling
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: resembled play not to lose instead of play to win.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Zero urgency or aggressiveness, No deep shots, just nothing but draws,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: and three are dump offs on third and eight. I'm
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: a senior at WVU desperate for a special season. Remember
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: I said last week, I said there are certain things
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: that you can write today. You can write today before
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: the game is played. Yeah, this is one Sewn and Florida.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: You know that play calling thing. We went through that right.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: There were a lot of if this offense can't run
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: it when it wants to, all that other stuff backs up.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: You weren't running it successfully, which eliminates some of the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: deep shots. Their coverage is very good. You're not just
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: going to throw deep if there's no chance of success.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: The reason that works so much last year is because
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: defensees had to worry so much about the run, the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: motioning and the shifting having to be dial back effective.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: That that shrinks the playbook. It doesn't allow for all
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: of the play calling you'd like to see. Play Calling
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: a lot of times is predicated on the execution. What
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: you're able to execute dictates what you can call. So
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: let's keep that in mind.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Are you a better play caller on third and three
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: or third and seven?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Well, here's the adage third and eight and this goes
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: back to the history of the game of football and
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: don Nealan used to pound this and he's one. It
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: still works despite of all this new change in the game.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: If you cannot run, you cannot win. It's play and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: it's simple. If you can't run, you can't win because,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: as Brad just said, when you have the ability to run,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: then you are in control. When you can't run the ball,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: then the defense controls you.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: And let's yes, and that's particularly more accurate for this
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: team that wants to run it first. So it's but
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: it's just sports. If you're not able to do what
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: you want to do, it changes what you're calling from
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: a coaching perspective. And we can have this conversation when
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: basketball comes as well. Right, if you're playing a defensive
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: team that takes you out of your sets and your
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: ability to shoot threes. But you're a team that is
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: predicated on winning games because your offense is based on
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: shooting threes, your set calls from the bench are going to.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Struggle a little bit.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: And that's that's the case. So I know it's easy
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: to default to the play callings bat if you can't execute,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: the play calling is not going to be what you
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: think it is. When it's clicking like the end of
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: last year, and the play calling was magnificent. Because you
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: were able to execute, then more play calling options are
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: available to you.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: West Virginia went into yesterday's game the streak of sixteen
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: consecutive games with over one hundred and forty rushing yards,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: longest six station, longest in the nation, sixteen straight, over
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: one hundred and forty. They were able to do what
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: they wanted to do. It translated last year, of which
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: there were thirteen games, to a nine win season. Yesterday,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: West Virginia had that streak came to an end. Come
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: to an end. They ran for eighty five yards. They
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  Speaker 1: averaged two yards per carry. Not real hard stuff to
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  Speaker 1: figure out. Can't run, can't win.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I'll say it here again and I've said
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  Speaker 3: it a million times in the offseason. We did this
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  Speaker 3: with the help of Steve down, that former defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 3: At the bowl game, he came in with a sheet
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  Speaker 3: of paper with eight different plays on it that were
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  Speaker 3: all run in the bowl game that came off of
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  Speaker 3: one formation. That was the play calling. Because you executed
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  Speaker 3: all of those and could call yesterday you weren't able
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  Speaker 3: to execute. It changed the ability of Neil to call
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  Speaker 3: certain plays. He couldn't motion, you couldn't shift, you couldn't
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  Speaker 3: run it. The deep shots weren't there. Because of all that,
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  Speaker 3: that's going to look different than when you're executing and
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  Speaker 3: doing what you want to do.
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  Speaker 1: Texter, I've only been to two games since COVID do
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  Speaker 1: Quesney and today. Sorry, I bring the Florida weather with me.
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  Speaker 1: If there's a lightning delay. The next time I fly up,
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  Speaker 1: I'm done for good.
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  Speaker 2: Probably, Sean, please stay away.
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  Speaker 1: Stay away, Sean Austin and Buckhannon, What do you guys
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  Speaker 1: think about the defender not looking back at the ball
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  Speaker 1: and keeping his hands up philosophy? And do you think
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  Speaker 1: the fifty ish recruits enjoyed themselves at all that were
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  Speaker 1: there for the weekend. I mean who knows, So like,
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  Speaker 1: who knows? Who knows? If the fifty like the fifty,
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  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, they some of them like win or lose.
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  Speaker 1: They might have had the time of their life and
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  Speaker 1: said like, yeah, so who knows? You never know.
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  Speaker 2: I'd tell you what what players who commit to West
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  Speaker 2: Virginia say almost universally, and you ask him why West Virginia,
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  Speaker 2: they will say it felt right. It seems like a
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  Speaker 2: family atmosphere. I really like the position coach. That's what
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  Speaker 2: they say, almost universally. And maybe I don't know whether
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  Speaker 2: what happened yesterday will.
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  Speaker 1: Texter? Oh, how losing hurts, but losing a bet is worse.
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  Speaker 1: I now have to wear this the entire season. I
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  Speaker 1: was a bad bet on your party, that bet. Yeah yeah, Texter,
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  Speaker 1: that's on you. Two and a half guys not going
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  Speaker 1: into the Penn State loss. The issues apparent defense, particularly
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  Speaker 1: the secondary turnovers, and one of poor performances at quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: all hopefully easily repaired items. Texter, I have recently moved
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  Speaker 1: to the Atlanta area, outperforming some lawn work. My neighbor
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  Speaker 1: walks over introduces himself after exchanging pleasantries, I find out
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  Speaker 1: they're from Parkersburg. Huge mountaineer fan of course, needless to say,
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  Speaker 1: invites me over for back porch beers and West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: watch parties were exchanged hashtag always a West Virginia connection.
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  Speaker 1: Always looking forward to traveling to the four to one
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  Speaker 1: to two area code in a couple of weeks and
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  Speaker 1: destroying the school up north sign by Glenn and Glenn
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  Speaker 1: Ferris I think that's his name. No reference to pit
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  Speaker 1: game Witsburgh Texter. We heard all summer how important nutrition
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  Speaker 1: and hydration was to the staff. Please explain why our
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  Speaker 1: players were cramping up after the storm break when they
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  Speaker 1: had so much available to them during the break. Was
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  Speaker 1: anyone monitoring this? What were they doing? Yeah? They went
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  Speaker 1: into the locker room and everyone on staff said, please
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  Speaker 1: do not drink anything at all, stay dehydrated, and make
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  Speaker 1: sure you don't drink a single thing while you're in here.
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  Speaker 1: Players cramp, athletes cramp. I mean it was a golden
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  Speaker 1: I saw. As a matter of fact. Jed Drenning sent
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  Speaker 1: up a picture from downstairs in the locker room where
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  Speaker 1: they had anything and everything out there. I mean, how
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  Speaker 1: do you know what a body's going to do? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they had every possible thing in there. You know, if
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  Speaker 1: I did say this, someone was in the stands said
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: it was the hottest game they've ever experienced. It was
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: absolutely before it rained, they said it was absolutely smoking.
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  Speaker 1: But you don't know. I mean, yeah, they hydrate, They
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  Speaker 1: hydrate all week. That's all they talk about is nutrition
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  Speaker 1: and hydration. Your body's going to cramp, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: poor Wyatt Milne, he went full body cramp. Oh, really
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  Speaker 1: full body cramp. Which is scary. Yeah, which is really scary. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: first text in a while. As a professional engineer, I
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: wanted to say thank you Tony for not hesitating and
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  Speaker 1: having the backs of the engineering profession. With all due
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: respect to the boiler makers and miners. What if Lehigh's
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  Speaker 1: mascot had been the doctors, the lawyers, or the accountants,
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  Speaker 1: I doubt they would have been acceptable to our professional peers.
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  Speaker 1: Who wins twenty twenty three WVU Opening Week team or
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four WVU Opening Week team? So if
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  Speaker 1: the twenty three Mountaineers played the twenty four Mountaineers, who wins?
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  Speaker 1: That a good question? I say, draw Andrew little Rock
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  Speaker 1: by way of Parkersburg. All right, he'd done enough damage.
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  Speaker 1: Time to move on, and we'll call this as a
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  Speaker 1: call this a day. Anything else for the good to
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  Speaker 1: the order.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's it now, dust off, stand back up,
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  Speaker 3: go handle the Great Danes, keep moving forward. See what
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  Speaker 3: you got you got Listen, You've got a lot of
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: football left. You got an incredibly tough stretch coming. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: and not to overlook Albany because you probably shouldn't overlook
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  Speaker 3: anybody at this point, but then coming up at Pitt
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  Speaker 3: and then that five game start to the Big twelve
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  Speaker 3: schedule is going to present some challenges. Got gotta get
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  Speaker 3: better and go.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday Albany went to one and zero on the season.
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  Speaker 1: They defeated the Long Island University Sharks twenty seven to
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  Speaker 1: twenty one. Former West Virginia pumb Yeah. So we got
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  Speaker 1: Albany coming in here. And you know what they say,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: don't you. The team improves its first it prings the
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  Speaker 1: most all season from its first to its second game.
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  Speaker 1: They say that is that? I've never heard that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to use it. He do say that, they do,
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  Speaker 1: they they do. Hey is never wrong. Don't you use that, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: Don't you use that? This week? I'm not saying it again.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to get it out once, okay once, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Help you escape the stadium after a yeah heavy, get
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  Speaker 2: right out.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Gomart has that connection. Three or four
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  Speaker 3: Yeah there, yeah, and they're going to be in more locations,
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  Speaker 3: but some of them had them coming up seventy nine.
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  Speaker 1: All right, sold out.
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  Speaker 3: I would I don't have in front of me. I would.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, I saw Mike over at food court,
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  Speaker 3: Mike from Conley.
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  Speaker 1: Oh was he there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he came over Friday night. Good to see him
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: as always, calculator in his hand like taking down numbers.
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  Speaker 3: What was the calculator?
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  Speaker 1: I did you know?
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  Speaker 3: He was just finishing up eating. We had other things
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  Speaker 3: to talk about. I didn't approach the auditing of our
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  Speaker 3: number of episodes, so we'll get back from getting that.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't figure that was the time north of place?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: All right, So it's Sunday. We're back on Thursday with
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: our preview for WVU and Albany. You'll be here Thursday,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: hop awesome, Thanks appreciate it.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: I might have an issue this Thursday, might have an issue.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta go. I got a thing. I got a thing.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: I got a thing. We'll talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Clearly, we're not clearly the talking about it will clearly
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  Speaker 3: be you telling us you won't be here.
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  Speaker 1: That'll be there.
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  Speaker 3: There's no talking, but talking about it would imply maybe
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: there's a chance to still there.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Are you doing your show on Thursday? Yes, then your
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: ass will be here to do three guys. Okay, I'll
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: be here all we want is you're absolutely not going
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: to be here.
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  Speaker 3: That was a total playcate him for the moment, and
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: now you're not going to be here.
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  Speaker 1: All right, We're up, so TB A