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- 0:43Speaker 1: today to talk football with us, it's Adam Kaplan from
- 0:46Speaker 1: the Inside of the Birds podcast. Adam, what's up man?
- 0:50Speaker 2: Yeah, my deals report Mike on the twenty eighth, which
- 0:53Speaker 2: is a Sunday. The first practice is the twenty ninth,
- 0:55Speaker 2: So yeah, we're getting a little bit closer.
- 0:56Speaker 1: We are getting there. It feels like we're getting there
- 0:59Speaker 1: each and every day. We are getting closer and closer.
- 1:02Speaker 1: And let's get into some of the divisional thoughts. Here.
- 1:06Speaker 1: You know, this team won back to back NFC East championships, Adam,
- 1:10Speaker 1: and that had not happened in twenty years, So what
- 1:13Speaker 1: are the chances they can make it a three.
- 1:16Speaker 2: P Yeah, I had it happens in two thousand and
- 1:19Speaker 2: four when the Eagles were in the midst of winning
- 1:21Speaker 2: three divisional championships the NFC East in a row. So yeah,
- 1:25Speaker 2: last week, Mike, we did the player Eagles player props.
- 1:28Speaker 2: This week and this on today's show, we'll do the
- 1:31Speaker 2: NFC East, just the Eagles and the actually the win totals.
- 1:34Speaker 2: We're going to go through all of them. They have
- 1:36Speaker 2: some interesting props that our Friday show will do, the Commandos,
- 1:40Speaker 2: the Giants, and the Cowboys. So yeah, let's get that started.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Yeah, So, if you look at the Eagles right now
- 1:46Speaker 1: to win this for the third straight season, what are
- 1:50Speaker 1: their odds right now to win the NFC East. Are
- 1:54Speaker 1: they a heavy and clear favorite.
- 1:57Speaker 2: They are a favorite, but they're not a happy favorite.
- 1:58Speaker 2: They're plus one twenty five. So yeah, they've got the
- 2:02Speaker 2: shorter sids to win the NFC East at plus one
- 2:05Speaker 2: twenty five. Look, if you think that he's gonna win,
- 2:08Speaker 2: you obviously want to do it now because quite look,
- 2:12Speaker 2: there is definitely some hype. I could tell you there's
- 2:15Speaker 2: definitely some hype around the Cowboys. It's usually misguided, unfounded,
- 2:20Speaker 2: but I could tell you from because you know, I
- 2:24Speaker 2: talk to people who actually work in the NFL, who
- 2:27Speaker 2: who are in the who are looking at pro tape,
- 2:29Speaker 2: and they definitely respect what Dallas has done this offseason,
- 2:33Speaker 2: Christian Parker coming in a Vic Fangio disciple to run
- 2:36Speaker 2: their defense. They're going to change that up and we'll
- 2:38Speaker 2: get more into Dallas on Friday. But Dallas usually implodes.
- 2:42Speaker 2: As our friend Jason Avant would say, Cowboys are just
- 2:45Speaker 2: going to cowboy they usually do. That's why the Eagles
- 2:47Speaker 2: are the favorite here.
- 2:48Speaker 1: They are the favorite to win the NFC East. It's
- 2:51Speaker 1: slight favorite too, plus one twenty five, so you can
- 2:54Speaker 1: make a little bit of money there. What about just
- 2:57Speaker 1: to simply make the playoffs.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Well, usually I'll talk about this one, but I found
- 3:02Speaker 2: this interesting. So, look, if the Eagles don't win the division,
- 3:07Speaker 2: you kind of think they're going to be a wild card.
- 3:08Speaker 2: You know, we'll we'll as we get closer to training
- 3:11Speaker 2: camp look at the rest of the divisions. But to
- 3:14Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Yes, minus one seventy five. If you
- 3:18Speaker 2: think the Eagles won't make the playoffs, not only will
- 3:21Speaker 2: they not win the division, but they want to be
- 3:23Speaker 2: a wild card. Well, you're getting if you have for
- 3:26Speaker 2: every hundred you get, you get one forty five plus
- 3:28Speaker 2: your your bet back. I mean, so obviously that the
- 3:33Speaker 2: money's clearly on the Eagles to make the playoffs. I
- 3:36Speaker 2: never say a lot, because they could have an injury.
- 3:38Speaker 2: You really never know for sure. Just when you think
- 3:41Speaker 2: you know, then something else happens. But obviously they heavy
- 3:43Speaker 2: moneies on them getting a playoff spot.
- 3:46Speaker 1: So if you're a hater out there and you want
- 3:48Speaker 1: to those people there are in the listening audience who
- 3:50Speaker 1: just can't stand the home team, you want to make
- 3:54Speaker 1: a little money, it's plus one forty five that they
- 3:57Speaker 1: will not make the playoffs, right, So put your money
- 3:59Speaker 1: where you where your mouth is, hater.
- 4:02Speaker 2: So a friend of mine, that Scott Keith, who I
- 4:04Speaker 2: played Ted. He's one of my tennis partners. He uh,
- 4:07Speaker 2: he grew up. I'm gonna say he must have. I
- 4:09Speaker 2: don't think he grew up. He didn't grow up in Philly,
- 4:11Speaker 2: might be like Lancaster or Reading. He didn't have quite
- 4:14Speaker 2: the Philly accent. He's a Cowboys fan, And I go, dude,
- 4:17Speaker 2: how's that even?
- 4:18Speaker 1: Pot?
- 4:18Speaker 2: What is wrong with you? He goes, because everyone was
- 4:21Speaker 2: on the Eagles baywagon. He wanted to be different, like, well,
- 4:23Speaker 2: cand you pick like a team nobody liked like like
- 4:27Speaker 2: growing up like this, he.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Wanted to be different, So we picked the Cowboys like
- 4:30Speaker 1: everybody else did. Right.
- 4:32Speaker 2: I have to tell him that we're talking about getting
- 4:34Speaker 2: off to text them if we haven't talked in a while,
- 4:35Speaker 2: so he'll like that. But yet, so yeah, look, the
- 4:38Speaker 2: Cowboys are the hype team. Now, there's no doubt about it.
- 4:41Speaker 2: All right.
- 4:41Speaker 1: Uh, let's look at wind totals here. Let's see where
- 4:43Speaker 1: we can make a couple of bucks. If you, if
- 4:45Speaker 1: you have in your in your heart of heart, how
- 4:47Speaker 1: many wins you think the Eagles will get out there listening,
- 4:50Speaker 1: here's a chance for you to make a couple of dollars.
- 4:52Speaker 2: All right, So, Mike this we usually don't go this deep,
- 4:56Speaker 2: but since we have a couple of minutes here, I
- 4:58Speaker 2: want to go a little bit deeper in the wind totals. So,
- 5:00Speaker 2: if you think the Eagles are an absolute lock to
- 5:02Speaker 2: have a good year, well, at least be over five hundred.
- 5:06Speaker 2: The over under total for eight and a half wins
- 5:08Speaker 2: Just what I hate about these They won't do even
- 5:11Speaker 2: number like it have to be where it won't sit
- 5:14Speaker 2: on a number. So basically it won't be eight wins
- 5:17Speaker 2: or nine wins, or ten wins or eleven wins. It's
- 5:19Speaker 2: got to be eight and a half wins. So the
- 5:21Speaker 2: over eight and a half wins is minus two thirty five.
- 5:23Speaker 2: So obviously you're gonna pay a big number to take
- 5:27Speaker 2: the over. Now the unders plus one ninety five. Look,
- 5:29Speaker 2: if you think he was gonna take it, If you're
- 5:32Speaker 2: an Eagles hater, as you mentioned, Mike, and you want
- 5:34Speaker 2: to take the unders, for every one hundred dollars, you
- 5:37Speaker 2: get your bet back and you would get one hundred
- 5:40Speaker 2: and ninety five dollars if you really think they're gonna stick, So.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Plus one ninety five if you think they're gonna go
- 5:46Speaker 1: under eight and a half, which way, I don't think
- 5:49Speaker 1: that happens.
- 5:50Speaker 2: Wins are less, no.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Way, So what's the sweet spot for you? What do
- 5:54Speaker 1: we got over eight and a half?
- 5:56Speaker 2: All right, So nine and a half wins is over
- 5:59Speaker 2: the overs one forty five plus one twenty, and now
- 6:01Speaker 2: it gets interesting, Mike, it is interesting. Think listen to
- 6:07Speaker 2: this one. The ten and a half wins, right, I
- 6:10Speaker 2: think I look at the Eagles being eleven and sixteen
- 6:12Speaker 2: right of a seventeen game schedule. That's why I think
- 6:15Speaker 2: you mentioned the sweet spot. Like I like the over
- 6:21Speaker 2: plus one twenty, Mike, is the overs plus one twenty
- 6:24Speaker 2: ten and a half, so eleven wins are more, it's
- 6:27Speaker 2: plus one twenty the under, Wow, they really think the
- 6:30Speaker 2: Eagles will not get eleven wins? Unders minus one forty five, Mike,
- 6:33Speaker 2: that's my sweet spot. I like the over ten and
- 6:36Speaker 2: a half.
- 6:36Speaker 1: So if you want to go into the eleven twelve
- 6:40Speaker 1: win range or some money to be.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Made there is. So for every hundred you bet, you
- 6:45Speaker 2: get your bet back if you win. If you Eagals
- 6:48Speaker 2: get eleven points, eleven wins are more and you get
- 6:50Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty. So yeah, I like that one.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Now the next one's a little bit harder. Look, if
- 6:55Speaker 2: you think the Eagle's gonna kick but twelve wins or more, right,
- 7:00Speaker 2: the overs plus two hundred, boy, that's a look. If
- 7:03Speaker 2: you think that he was going to kick butt, you
- 7:05Speaker 2: take that the under Vegas does not see at all.
- 7:09Speaker 2: He goes being being over eleven wins. So the under
- 7:16Speaker 2: is minus two to fifty. So obviously they think there's
- 7:19Speaker 2: just don't think. By the way, no one thinks Eagual's
- 7:21Speaker 2: going to be the money right now, Mike is clearly
- 7:26Speaker 2: it's it's heading obviously towards under. Nobody really thinks Eagual's
- 7:30Speaker 2: going to be a twelve wins or more team. I could.
- 7:34Speaker 2: I could understand that twelve.
- 7:36Speaker 1: And a half. By the way, plus three fifty minus
- 7:38Speaker 1: four fifty for under twelve and a half. So if
- 7:41Speaker 1: you want to get him right at eleven, if that's
- 7:42Speaker 1: your number, U plus three point fifty to go over
- 7:45Speaker 1: to get the thirteen wins. Yesterday, Motion and I were
- 7:48Speaker 1: talking about this because ESPN dot Com ranked all the
- 7:52Speaker 1: starting rosters. Leave yeah, Ram for number one, Eagles were
- 7:56Speaker 1: number two. So what are the chances that they would
- 7:59Speaker 1: have the most regular season wins out of everybody?
- 8:02Speaker 2: Well, here's the number, another one we have not talked
- 8:05Speaker 2: about before. I wanted to add this to have the
- 8:07Speaker 2: NFL's most regular season wins only right again, regular season,
- 8:11Speaker 2: not playoffs at all. They're plus twelve hundred, so I
- 8:17Speaker 2: we'll talk about. In fact, Jeff and I did. We
- 8:19Speaker 2: have a brand new series starting on Inside the Birds,
- 8:21Speaker 2: which we dropped yesterday and today, where we talk about
- 8:24Speaker 2: and we're gonna do also Wednesday and Thursday the other way,
- 8:28Speaker 2: what players or coaches were optimistic about on offensive defense
- 8:32Speaker 2: and what players were pessimistic or concerned about on defense,
- 8:36Speaker 2: and that includes coaches. And look, the Eagles have a
- 8:39Speaker 2: good roster, there's no doubt, there's no doubt. But wow,
- 8:43Speaker 2: to have the second greatest roster in the NFL. That's strong.
- 8:47Speaker 2: And by the way, most regular season wins plus twelve hundred.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Plus twelve hundred. If you think they can win, I
- 8:52Speaker 1: guess you got to probably get the thirteen or fourteen
- 8:55Speaker 1: wins to take you on that ground, right.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Probably gonna have to be thirteen at least twelve If yeah,
- 9:01Speaker 2: I would say thirteen. Yet, Mike, they're gonna have to
- 9:03Speaker 2: be at least thirteen to four. You know they've been
- 9:04Speaker 2: fourteen three before. It's possible, but we need to take
- 9:09Speaker 2: a look at the AFC at some point before.
- 9:11Speaker 1: Train can Well that's the one you can. That's the one.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Maybe you throw ten bucks on at the beginning of
- 9:15Speaker 1: the year and just if they end up getting twelve
- 9:16Speaker 1: or thirteen wins. Yeah, and that pops. There you go.
- 9:19Speaker 1: You got yourself a nice look hit there.
- 9:20Speaker 2: It's a big hit. Yeah, yeah, no question about it.
- 9:23Speaker 1: All right. So we just talked about the Rams. What
- 9:26Speaker 1: are the chances. What's the odds for number one seed
- 9:29Speaker 1: in the NFC.
- 9:30Speaker 2: Yeah, that in the NFC, it's plus a fifty. They're
- 9:33Speaker 2: right up there. Rams are number one. Eagles are They're
- 9:37Speaker 2: in the top five, Mike, they're in the top five,
- 9:40Speaker 2: but they're plus a fifty. Boy, the Rams with that
- 9:45Speaker 2: the Miles Garret trade, Holy smoke. Stafford's coming back. Craft Man.
- 9:50Speaker 2: He's close to forty years old. It's really remarkable. They
- 9:54Speaker 2: don't really have a third receiver, but they play. They
- 9:55Speaker 2: have so many tight ends. Show me. FA is unbelievable, Mike,
- 9:59Speaker 2: Nobody about five years ran more eleven personnel free receiver sets.
- 10:03Speaker 2: All of a sudden, he went crazy with three tight ends.
- 10:06Speaker 2: He just completely changed it. No one saw that coming.
- 10:08Speaker 2: They're absolutely loaded. I get it. My money would be
- 10:11Speaker 2: on the Rams to be the number one seed.
- 10:13Speaker 1: That's plus a fifty for the number one seed in
- 10:17Speaker 1: the NFC. Remember the Eagles do play the Rams in
- 10:19Speaker 1: week number four, sow somebody who wants to bet that,
- 10:22Speaker 1: you might want to see what happens in that Week
- 10:24Speaker 1: four game and then maybe put the wayg drum although
- 10:27Speaker 1: at the number would really shift. I would imagine whoever
- 10:30Speaker 1: wins that game. What about to win the NFC and
- 10:34Speaker 1: represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.
- 10:37Speaker 2: Yeah, so to be one of the two teams in
- 10:39Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and win the NFC Championship game plus
- 10:44Speaker 2: one thousand in one of the things, though, Mike, I
- 10:46Speaker 2: do want to mention Sirianni over his first five years.
- 10:51Speaker 2: It's got one of the best records on the road
- 10:53Speaker 2: in NFL history. It's really amazing. Something like we rarely
- 10:57Speaker 2: talked about how good, how good the Egles have been
- 11:00Speaker 2: with Siri on the road. It's it's kind of underrated
- 11:03Speaker 2: how good they've been. And obviously he's been despite a
- 11:07Speaker 2: lot of people. And I think he's good head coach.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Never had a losing record, playoffs every year and two
- 11:14Speaker 2: Super Bowl appearances one one ring. It's pretty doing good.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Well, wa Siriani has the record I think for most
- 11:20Speaker 1: places seen down the Jersey shore. He takes up where
- 11:24Speaker 1: has he been?
- 11:25Speaker 2: I haven't noticed where's he is.
- 11:26Speaker 1: He takes a picture with everybody. He was at Meco Amenco. Uh.
- 11:31Speaker 1: He was at this place called Roote nine something or another. Uh.
- 11:35Speaker 1: During Memorial Day weekend, he was at uh shooting hoops
- 11:40Speaker 1: in the Avalon Rec Center. The other day he was playing.
- 11:44Speaker 1: He was in Margate at tidelines this weekend. I'm just
- 11:50Speaker 1: getting started. I mean I've seen him like like ten
- 11:53Speaker 1: different spots. Cole Hamil's has been out in a battle
- 11:55Speaker 1: lot down too.
- 11:57Speaker 2: You know what what you're saying, Mike Joe Allenbeid, I
- 11:59Speaker 2: don't doubt he's a father now. I don't think he
- 12:01Speaker 2: does it. So years ago, probably first four or five
- 12:05Speaker 2: years of his career, I would see him out all
- 12:06Speaker 2: the time, well walking around yeah, oh in Philly bars right,
- 12:12Speaker 2: Not in New Jersey.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Not because there was a famous picture of him. This
- 12:17Speaker 1: is a couple of years ago. He was just randomly
- 12:19Speaker 1: walking down the street and Margie like, oh was right, yeah,
- 12:23Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, just like yeah, just walking down the street.
- 12:28Speaker 1: You know, in a like a market, it's a very
- 12:31Speaker 1: residential area. There's Joelle just walking down the street and
- 12:33Speaker 1: his flip flops.
- 12:34Speaker 2: How about that?
- 12:35Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that? All right, let's go to what
- 12:39Speaker 1: are the odds right now to win the Super Bowl
- 12:42Speaker 1: for this Philadelphia Eagles team.
- 12:45Speaker 2: Yeah, not only do you have to get there, you
- 12:46Speaker 2: actually have to win it. Plus eighteen hundred. It's not
- 12:49Speaker 2: as long as I thought they would be. I'll say this,
- 12:53Speaker 2: you les get the respect from the league. We talked
- 12:55Speaker 2: about that when the schedule came out. How many primetime
- 12:57Speaker 2: games they have? He tells you what they think of
- 12:59Speaker 2: you by him primetime games. Again, the teams that only
- 13:02Speaker 2: get one, the leagu's telling you they don't think you're
- 13:03Speaker 2: gonna be very good. Hey byther the heay they're not
- 13:05Speaker 2: always right like they the league and everyone else missed
- 13:08Speaker 2: on the missed out on the Commandos two years ago.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Then the Commandos fell off last season. But the Eagles
- 13:13Speaker 2: to win the Super Bowl plus eighteen hundred.
- 13:15Speaker 1: Plus eighteen hundred right now. So if you have a
- 13:18Speaker 1: strong feeling that you think the Eagles are good enough
- 13:22Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl, plus eighteen hundreds probably the
- 13:25Speaker 1: best number you're gonna get uh in a long long time,
- 13:28Speaker 1: you know, because if they come out of the gates,
- 13:29Speaker 1: they win a couple of games, that number starts to drop.
- 13:32Speaker 1: So if you want to get on it now, probably
- 13:34Speaker 1: want to hit that plus eighteen hundred to win the
- 13:38Speaker 1: Super Bowl. All right. The Inside of the Birds podcast drops
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- 13:50Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan is back on Friday Show. Thanks man, thank you.
- 13:54Speaker 1: All right, Adam Kaplan, everybody giving you the odds here
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