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Speaker Johnson to Pope Leo: Do Better · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 1: Pope and Speaker Mike Johnson getting into a little bit
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  Speaker 1: southern California meet you may be really familiar with this story,
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  Speaker 1: State did the women at their university wrong and the
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  Speaker 1: and your kids and what you can do some creative
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  Speaker 1: things to help them with you know, understanding that holiday
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  Speaker 1: a little bit better. So we've got a lot to
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  Speaker 1: get to. I want to start with a story that
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  Speaker 1: is based here locally, but man, it is a sign
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  Speaker 1: of the times if ever there was one, and there's
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  Speaker 1: people talking about this story across the country. So I
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  Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of important for us to at
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  Speaker 1: least have a knowledge of The New York City Police
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  Speaker 1: Department today releasing body camera footage showing the moment an
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  Speaker 1: officer shot a mentally ill man who was allegedly charging
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  Speaker 1: him with a knife, amid calls from Mayor Zoran mamdaniow
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  Speaker 1: widow Zoran for mental health treatment instead of criminal charges.
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  Speaker 1: Jabez Chok Gabordi twenty two, holding a large kitchen knife,
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  Speaker 1: charged it officers who responded to an emergency call from
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  Speaker 1: his family and queens. According to the NYPD. Well it's
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  Speaker 1: not just according to the NYPD anymore. They have released
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  Speaker 1: the bodycam footage. And first of all, the setting for
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  Speaker 1: what happens here is a housemaid, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it's a relative, a mother, an aunt, somebody who's somebody
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  Speaker 1: who's related to Jobez calls the police and when they
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  Speaker 1: show up, they knock on the door and the woman
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  Speaker 1: comes to the door and she says, yes, I called you,
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  Speaker 1: please come in now. The reason that they call is
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  Speaker 1: because there's a disturbance, and so they've been told there's
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  Speaker 1: a violent family disturbance going on. Someone is behaving in
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  Speaker 1: a dangerous way. The woman welcomes the police into the house,
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  Speaker 1: and the man, who is said to have mental disabilities,
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  Speaker 1: comes from the back of the house with a big
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  Speaker 1: chef's knife, charging at the police officers, and they start
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  Speaker 1: telling him. I've watched the footage multiple times. They start
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  Speaker 1: telling him, when he's at distances of maybe one hundred
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  Speaker 1: to sixty feet away, to drop the knife, to drop
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  Speaker 1: the knife, drop the knife, drop the knife. And they
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  Speaker 1: don't shoot him at first. They shut a door so
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  Speaker 1: that there's a door between he and them, so that
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  Speaker 1: but they're still instructing him drop the knife, drop the knife.
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  Speaker 1: They must have said it a dozen times. When it
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  Speaker 1: appears as though it has been resolved, the door opens
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  Speaker 1: and he gets the knife again and comes at them,
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  Speaker 1: and they tell them again, drop the knife, drop the knife,
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  Speaker 1: but he still keeps coming and they fire shots at him.
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  Speaker 1: They immediately call shots fired, and they start getting people there.
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  Speaker 1: The footage released this week shows an officer entered the
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  Speaker 1: living room where Jakobardi was brandishing a knife. Officers are
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  Speaker 1: heard attempting to de escalate the situation, repeatedly telling him
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  Speaker 1: to drop the knife, put the knife down, and he
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  Speaker 1: continued to move toward the officer. A woman is seeing
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  Speaker 1: the footage attempting to block Chacoboardy with her arm, but
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  Speaker 1: he continued to step forward while carrying the knife. The
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  Speaker 1: footage shows the NYPD officer repositioning himself in the vestibule,
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  Speaker 1: closing the door between him and the living room. He
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  Speaker 1: pushed through the door stepped toward the officer with the knife.
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  Speaker 1: The officer discharged his weapon. The clip has been released
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  Speaker 1: by NYPD and includes an audio of the nine to
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  Speaker 1: eleven call from a civilian witness reporting that Chocoboardi was
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  Speaker 1: experiencing an episode. Now, in response to all of this,
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  Speaker 1: Widow Joelwan has said that there should be no charges
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  Speaker 1: leveled against the man and that at what's needed instead
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  Speaker 1: is some mental health help. Now, I believe that the
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  Speaker 1: NYPD will do a thorough investigation. They will look at
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  Speaker 1: all the things to take into consideration here. But the
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  Speaker 1: caller when they when they called the nine to one
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  Speaker 1: one call, Chakoboordi had thrown a big piece of glass
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  Speaker 1: against the wall. The caller requested EMS, not police, asking
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  Speaker 1: for an ambulance so that he could be taken involuntarily
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  Speaker 1: to a hospital. The incident is currently being investigated by
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  Speaker 1: the Queen's District Attorney's office, and preliminary reports suggesting prosecutors
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  Speaker 1: are looking at potentially seeking an indictment for attempted murder.
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  Speaker 1: The mayor, however, said at a news conference on Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: that he should receive mental health treatment and not face
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  Speaker 1: criminal charges. Now, why does the mayor have anything to
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  Speaker 1: say about this? This is kind of curious to me
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  Speaker 1: because this is not the mayor's job. The mayor is
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  Speaker 1: not judge and jury over who should be charged and
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  Speaker 1: who shouldn't be charged. That's what DA's are for. That's
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  Speaker 1: what a police department's for. That's what officers who would
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  Speaker 1: file charges would be there for. That's what the family
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  Speaker 1: member or whoever's in the home with him, if they
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  Speaker 1: file the charges. I'm very familiar with how disabled homes operate,
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  Speaker 1: where you have a number of consumers that all live
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  Speaker 1: in the same house, and you have, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: couple of staff members that kind of are responsible for
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  Speaker 1: the welfare of the house. If that's what this is,
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  Speaker 1: they certainly have a right to expect safety and not
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  Speaker 1: have a piece of glass thrown at them or against
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  Speaker 1: the wall or something like that and then be charging
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  Speaker 1: people with a with a with a kitchen knife now
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  Speaker 1: to whatever degree that goes into criminal prosecution, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: the judge says, well, instead of prison time, maybe we
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  Speaker 1: should look at giving him, you know, hospital status or
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  Speaker 1: something like that. That's a different's an issue. But to
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  Speaker 1: not bring the charges at all, I think is a mistake.
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  Speaker 1: Judges have a lot of you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: range when it comes to this. They can decide if
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  Speaker 1: someone should be criminally punished or not. But it's not
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  Speaker 1: the mayor's job. That's that's my point here. This is
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  Speaker 1: not the mayor's call, and we do not want to
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  Speaker 1: get into the habit of having the mayor of the
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  Speaker 1: town be the one who decides whether or not someone
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  Speaker 1: gets prosecuted for a crime. Let the DA do its work,
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  Speaker 1: let the police department do their work, Let the judge
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  Speaker 1: do his work. I don't know the level of functioning
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  Speaker 1: that this man had or didn't have. He did not
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  Speaker 1: obey orders, He tried to hurt other people with danger
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  Speaker 1: he was he understood the dynamic enough to get a
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  Speaker 1: dangerous weapon and to try to use it against other people.
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  Speaker 1: The mayor should have nothing, he should have no input
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  Speaker 1: on this at all. Here's what the mayor said. In
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  Speaker 1: viewing the footage, it's clear to me that what he
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  Speaker 1: needs is mental health treatment, not criminal prosecution. The mayor
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  Speaker 1: said hours after shooting that the police had encountered an
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  Speaker 1: individual wielding a knife and that he was grateful to
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  Speaker 1: the first responders who put themselves on the line each
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  Speaker 1: day to keep community safe. He didn't say that those
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  Speaker 1: police did a good job, but at least he said
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  Speaker 1: thank you to the first responders who do this. All right.
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  Speaker 1: So that's going on here, and the mayor topped it
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  Speaker 1: off by going to visit the knife wielder last night
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  Speaker 1: at the hospital. I'm sure some people will find that
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  Speaker 1: very compassionate and very important. All right. So that's it
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  Speaker 3: Here he is from New York. That Kevin Kevin McCulla All.
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  Speaker 1: Right, welcome back Kevin McCullough the Thursday edition. We've got
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  Speaker 1: a lot to get to yet on the show today.
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  Speaker 1: Lots of news in the last twenty four hours. We
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  Speaker 1: will get to but before we talk about the headlines,
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  Speaker 1: and before we talk about how Christians should be responding
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  Speaker 1: to them and thinking about them and living in kind
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  Speaker 1: of the context of this culture, we always want to
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  Speaker 1: stop and ask the question, how do we live? How
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  Speaker 1: do we build ourselves a system so that we can
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  Speaker 1: live in this context? Stay on mission, be winsome, bring
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  Speaker 1: people to the gospel, and do the work that Jesus
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  Speaker 1: calls us to. That's what we discuss at this point
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  Speaker 1: in time every day. And Pastor Jamal Bernard has been
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  Speaker 1: with us from the Christian Cultural Center here in the
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  Speaker 1: Brooklyn area. For those of you listening in southern California
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  Speaker 1: and Washington's eight and other places, you may not be
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  Speaker 1: familiar with CCC, but on the East Coast it has
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  Speaker 1: a grand reputation, a long time service in its community,
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  Speaker 1: but also on the East Coast, one of the largest
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  Speaker 1: congregations for many, many years, Pastored by doctor a Ar Bernard,
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  Speaker 1: very close friend of the show and someone that I've
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed having a personal mentoring relationship with as he's guided
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  Speaker 1: me throughout the years. But his son, Jamal is now
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  Speaker 1: the senior pastor there. Jamal, we've been looking at Nebu
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  Speaker 1: Cainezer and the three little rascals all week. Yes, the
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  Speaker 1: guys that wouldn't cooperate, They didn't die. They had some
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  Speaker 1: other fourth dude that joined them in the furnace and
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  Speaker 1: somehow they didn't get burned or anything. But this had
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  Speaker 1: a true impact on the King. What happened to him?
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  Speaker 7: Well, going back to sorry and thank you Kevin again,
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  Speaker 7: here it is the sharicking second ben to go there
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  Speaker 7: in the fire.
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  Speaker 8: They look.
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  Speaker 7: I said, wow, you know we put place three individuals
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  Speaker 7: in there, and he said, yes, but I see four.
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  Speaker 7: And not only did they see four, he said that
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  Speaker 7: then we bind them up and we see them they're free.
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  Speaker 7: And I was like, wow, this is amazing that, you know,
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  Speaker 7: you see the freedom in the furnace, and King say,
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  Speaker 7: bring them out, bring them out, you know, And and so.
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  Speaker 8: He released them out of the furnace.
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  Speaker 7: And with the amazement of their conviction, God ministered to
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  Speaker 7: King Nemberkan to the point where he made a decree,
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  Speaker 7: and his decree was, if you continue reading, he says,
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  Speaker 7: I make a decree that anybody says anything about their
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  Speaker 7: God right and King never took ownership of God yahweh uh,
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  Speaker 7: the one true God. He just put it the creed
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  Speaker 7: that raised respect. He said, aybody says anything against their God,
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  Speaker 7: They're dead. He said, their family is dead, their life
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  Speaker 7: stocking that. He said, you put it the creed and
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  Speaker 7: it wasn't because it wasn't because.
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  Speaker 8: He began a relationship with God.
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  Speaker 7: But he saw the convictions that Shadracks I could have
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  Speaker 7: been to go lived out and said I would and yield.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not going to bow to the cultural cussures and
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  Speaker 7: the political pressure is that the different ideologies.
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  Speaker 8: I'm going to stand strong.
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  Speaker 7: And they cause him to respect their God. And I
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  Speaker 7: think if we start looking at how to should we
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  Speaker 7: live today, I think we should live a life that
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  Speaker 7: causes people to respect our God. And that's that's the
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  Speaker 7: big key, one of the big key elements of this story.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and the idea that we can do that on
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  Speaker 1: a daily basis in our own sphere of influence is
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  Speaker 1: obviously applicable. But yes, you had a specific illustration that
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  Speaker 1: you used in your sermon on this.
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  Speaker 7: And because I look at some of the relevant individuals
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  Speaker 7: that stood with the conviction and create a standard in
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  Speaker 7: which we still live today by. And this is It
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  Speaker 7: was a court case with Joda's Yoda versus Wisconsin, I
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  Speaker 7: think it was nineteen forty seven and the case was
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  Speaker 7: basically Jordas Yoda did not want to put his kid
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  Speaker 7: in the secondar school and the truancy law said, you know,
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  Speaker 7: after a certain age your kid has to go to school,
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  Speaker 7: and Jodah Shorda he said, no, I don't want to
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  Speaker 7: send my kids to school, and so they he went
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  Speaker 7: to court. He ended up losing it at the local level,
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  Speaker 7: and it went to Supreme Court, you know, as he
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  Speaker 7: appealed it, and the Supreme Court say there has to
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  Speaker 7: be a standard in order to really sit there and say, hey,
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  Speaker 7: where's the religious freedom right and and the insertion of
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  Speaker 7: the state laws and Jodahs Jorta said, I'm not going
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  Speaker 7: to put my kids in school. And he said there's
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  Speaker 7: five categories. That really sets the pressure. He says, you
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  Speaker 7: don't have to be eloquate with the religion. You know,
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  Speaker 7: you need to know more, it seems to me. But
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  Speaker 7: you don't have to be a theologian. You don't have
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  Speaker 7: to be and exposits her of the religion. He said,
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  Speaker 7: but you have to have more than just the basics.
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  Speaker 7: And I think we as a Christians, if you saw
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  Speaker 7: during COVID, a lot of the shallowness was exposed in
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  Speaker 7: the Christian world. So so Jodah Jorda said, I'm not
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  Speaker 7: going to put my daughter in school. And they said, well,
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  Speaker 7: you didn't go to jail, and he said, yeah, I
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  Speaker 7: put me in jail. I'm not gonna put my daughter
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  Speaker 7: in school. He said, you're gonna be an embarrassment. You
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  Speaker 7: got to pay a pressure from the rest of the
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  Speaker 7: homage people because through the tension that the homage people
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  Speaker 7: didn't like him, he said, well, I'm not gonna put
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  Speaker 7: my daughter in school.
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  Speaker 8: He said.
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  Speaker 7: They said, well, you're going to be sued. He said,
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  Speaker 7: can assume me. I'm not gonna put my daughter in school.
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  Speaker 7: And the case second that everybody just belief falls into
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  Speaker 7: two categories, a preference or conviction. And he said, because
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  Speaker 7: and the reason why this is so crucial because it
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  Speaker 7: is a conviction that's held by the Constitution of the
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  Speaker 7: United States not a preference.
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  Speaker 1: Well then when you think of the nineteen forties and
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  Speaker 1: what Jonas Yoda had to face in that case, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, truancy was a problem in a lot of
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  Speaker 1: states for many decades, especially as the homeschool and Christian
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  Speaker 1: school alternatives and charter schools and other things started coming about.
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  Speaker 1: States didn't want to give up. You know, they get
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  Speaker 1: paid according to the number of little bottoms that are
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  Speaker 1: in seats, and uh is every one of them that
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  Speaker 1: they lose from a public classroom is a cut to
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  Speaker 1: their bottom line. But over time, Uh, that was, that
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  Speaker 1: was you know, that changed. But but when you think
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  Speaker 1: about now what people have to take a stand for,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this idea that that we should be letting
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  Speaker 1: boys into girls' locker rooms and that we should not
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  Speaker 1: call one different than the other.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And it goes to I think, in many ways, a
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  Speaker 1: more heinous understanding or relationship to God with the culture,
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  Speaker 1: and that is that they just they just reject everything
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  Speaker 1: that He that he represents, even to the point of creation.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, yep, yep. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And that's why this court case is so key because
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  Speaker 7: if you look at some of the cases that have
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  Speaker 7: come up where you know, the the uh and I
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  Speaker 7: think with Arizonar with the cake store on to serve
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  Speaker 7: and the other and they're using this.
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  Speaker 8: This is the precedent, this is the president that they
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  Speaker 8: use it.
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  Speaker 7: But my point of it is not the lower cases,
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  Speaker 7: but the fact that it was a man's convictions and
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  Speaker 7: his religious beliefs and his connection with God that was
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  Speaker 7: so deep that he wouldn't let anything stir him to
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  Speaker 7: walk away from what he believed. I think so many
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  Speaker 7: of us was given the right amount of pressure, and
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  Speaker 7: it proved that a lot of these individuals would call
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  Speaker 7: themselves Christians lived the Christian life based on preference, not
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  Speaker 7: a conviction, because the conviction says I don't need anybody
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  Speaker 7: staying with me. I was saying by myself, if I
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  Speaker 7: have to meet, conviction says, this is a part of
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  Speaker 7: the fiber of who I am. This is not just
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  Speaker 7: a Sunday Sunday Sunday event that I go to, or
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  Speaker 7: this is not just something I say. It's not a
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  Speaker 7: hashtag for me, but this is something at the core
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  Speaker 7: of who I am, the fiber of who I am
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  Speaker 7: my Christian walk. If I don't function within the conviction,
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  Speaker 7: then I feel like I'm not complete as an individual.
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  Speaker 7: And so this is the depth that we need to
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  Speaker 7: see if you want to live in this world today
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  Speaker 7: where we're going, especially knowing that we're going to.
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  Speaker 8: Deal with so much criticism.
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  Speaker 7: I'm an ostization and pushed back as being a Christian,
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  Speaker 7: you got to come to the resolve and said, no,
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  Speaker 7: this is a conviction.
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  Speaker 8: It's fine of.
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: I know my God is able, but even if he doesn't,
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: I'm still good.
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: I'm not going to turn face.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was yesterday's big main point. Even if he
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: is chooses not to chooses not to intervene. And I've
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: often been reminded there was a music director for the
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: group called Truth in the nineteen seventies. Roger Breelan was
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: his name, but he used to say to his singers
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: a lot sometimes God is all that we need, but
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: we never know that he's all we need until he's
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: all we have. And when he is all that we have,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: we discover all over again that he's all we needed.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: And that is exactly what Mishak Shadrack and a Bednigo
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: were experiencing. They didn't have anything except God's word and
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: his promise and then his presence did come to them
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and stay with them. But if all we have is
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: God's presence, he doesn't even have to fulfill our request.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: If we have his presence, he is all we need
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: for this day.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's good. That's good.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: All right. So tomorrow we kind of wrap up this
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: story and we talk about all of the ways we're
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: going to apply it in our lives this coming week.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: So I hope that you will join us then, friends, Jamal.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: For people that are in the area and that want
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: to come to CCC this weekend, what are you teaching
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: on this coming Sunday?
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: This is comment Saday.
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: We're going to be talking about the idea that of
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: freedom and understanding what freedom is. Freedom is not moving
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: away from just something or moving away from all authority,
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: but realigning yourself with the right authority.
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: Oh right, Yeah, so that's what a deeply.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Needed message in today's culture. So it's that'll be wonderful.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: And for people that want to come, what time are
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the services?
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: It's at ten am at all campuses.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Okay. And you have satellite services in other cities that
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: are able to hear us today too, where are those at?
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: We have one in Smithtown, Long Island, another one in Atlanta, Georgia,
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: and another one in Orlando, Florida.
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: More Papa area, a Papa Florida.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, but Christian Cultural Center. And you can find out
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: more information on all of that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: At CCC info dot org.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: All right, cccinfo dot org. In this coming Sunday, that's
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: what Pastor Jamal's teaching on. All right, Jamal, we look
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: forward to wrapping up the week with you tomorrow. Thank
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you again, Thank you, you got it. Kevin mccallach coming
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: right back.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: Those are while.
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: Let's stick around for more than Kevin.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: And next.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Here he is from New York.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: That Kevin, Kevin McCullough, welcome back to Times Square. It's
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: that Kevin show, that kevinshow dot com. Well, it may
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: be kind of ironic that here in the middle of
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the coldest of the cold part of the year, we're
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: gonna talk about energy and things that make us get warmer.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: That's because literally on my yard right now, got like
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: twenty eight inches of snow that has been sitting there
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: for more than a week. The whole neighborhood looks like
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: pieces of wedding cake parked on each other's yards. But
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: here to discuss the energy issue with us is Gabrielle
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Hoffman from the Independent Women's Forum. We always love talking
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: to Gabby because she's always got interesting facts, and Gabby,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I have to you've recently wrapped up a pole that
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: looks at women's views in New England and specifically I'm
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: going to ask you why that in a second, but
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I couldn't help but just think about how ironic this
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: is because the mayor of Boston, who I'm really not
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: sure has an IQ above maybe a crayon, said this
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: week that she thinks that anybody in the world has
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the right to come to the US to seek to
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: seek asylum, and she wouldn't put limitations on it. So
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming like the Boston bomber and the nine to
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: eleven hijackers and all these other things, I don't think
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: she represents the way most New England women think, but
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: it certainly stands out when she makes such an outlandish statement.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: And you've been talking to New England women about energy
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: in particular, what have you discovered.
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: Women definitely feel like they're not getting the truth about
• 22:45
  Speaker 10: energy costs and the root causes.
• 22:48
  Speaker 11: So a lot of people like to.
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: Understand that or they understand rather that gasoline and electricity
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: they're derivatives of energy. They're not one of the same thing,
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: of course, and gasoline and fuel prices are structured is
• 23:03
  Speaker 10: very different from how electricity is regulated. And so the
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: first thing that came to us when we were conducting
• 23:09
  Speaker 10: this was how do we make that distinction, and how
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: do we create questions that are of course impartial and
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: fair and kind of get the women to you know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 10: expand and maybe you know, change their perspective or learn
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: more about energy issues that they were already versed on.
• 23:26
  Speaker 10: So we saw that there's a huge deficit in understanding
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: derivatives of energy, particularly electricity versus fuel costs.
• 23:34
  Speaker 11: So I think people conflate, especially.
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: Women, not because there's anything wrong with it, but it's
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: just purposely convoluted to understand the difference between how what
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: structures go behind you know, gas prices versus electricity prices.
• 23:46
  Speaker 10: So gas prices are more factored by global conditions, markets,
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: et cetera.
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: Electricity is more so regulated by the states.
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: Fifty three percent overall of women across all six states
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: communicated to us that they felt misled when they learn
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: learn more about the reality and inaffordability of these climate policies,
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: because many of these climate policies, as our center has
• 24:06
  Speaker 10: been tracking, have been adopted within the last five to
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: ten years, very aggressively in the New England states. So
• 24:11
  Speaker 10: it's not a coincidence that these higher costs are associated
• 24:14
  Speaker 10: with the implementation of these green policies. It's not President
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: Trump's agenda. It's not oil and gas companies that are
• 24:21
  Speaker 10: determining prices. They have nothing to do with electricity prices.
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: It's the utility companies, some of which are regulated or deregulated,
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: and that doesn't mean it's market friendly. It's just just
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: how electricity markets are operated in the United States. They're
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: responding to pressures and they're often implementing cost of compliance
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: from green mandates that are handed down in state legislatures.
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: So that is why, especially New England, which tends to
• 24:45
  Speaker 10: be a more progressive set.
• 24:46
  Speaker 11: So obviously there are a couple states in New England.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: These are one of the areas that adopted the green
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: stuff first. Because that's yes, aggressively.
• 24:53
  Speaker 11: Yes, yes, So why New England.
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: To your earlier point, New England, there are a couple
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: states which are what competitive Maine in New Hampshire are
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: ones that we're looking at for on our Sea four side,
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: and we thought, okay, so if we examine the whole
• 25:07
  Speaker 10: region part of you know, and this was done in
• 25:09
  Speaker 10: our C three.
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: This is not a C four.
• 25:11
  Speaker 10: Poll, so it's it's not political in the sense of
• 25:14
  Speaker 10: like examining partisan thinking.
• 25:17
  Speaker 11: But our C three conducted this because we were very curious.
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: We knew this area was historically progressive for the last century.
• 25:24
  Speaker 11: What are women thinking there?
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: And also women The reason why we don't see them
• 25:28
  Speaker 10: necessarily embracing energy abundance as openly as men is because
• 25:34
  Speaker 10: women tend to support environmentalist efforts over energy development, or
• 25:39
  Speaker 10: if they support energy development, they like renewables, solar and
• 25:42
  Speaker 10: wind in particular.
• 25:43
  Speaker 11: But what our poll.
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: Found was actually, once they're presented more information that the
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: true costs of these green policies, when they learn about
• 25:52
  Speaker 10: how natural gas and nuclear tend to occupy more of
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: the grid than solar and wind, they start to have
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: questions and then they start to challenge. We think that
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: they're starting to challenge that putting the environment above economic
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: prosperity or practicality is a question they're going to wrestle with,
• 26:07
  Speaker 10: especially as they start to look at their utility bills
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: and see it steadily increase, even beyond the increases they've
• 26:12
  Speaker 10: seen across the last five years.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if the Tri State is considered
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: part of the New England survey, but I do know
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that I've heard from many bill paying mamas in the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Tri State area over the last few weeks that they
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: are scared to death of what this cold snap is
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: going to appear as in their heating bill next month.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And I think for good reason. They've been told up
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: here for a while that energy is going to be
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: a lot more expensive.
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: They're told that natural gas, adding more of it or
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: any new capacity would make it more expensive. But as
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: we've talked about before, Kevin, it's not adding more natural gas.
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: They have routinely blocked pipelines in New England, and funny enough,
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: I think Constitution pipeline coming from the Marcella's shale through
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: New York City to then be trans to have those
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: reserves transported into Connecticut and then Greater New England. It's
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: finally starting to get some headway and possibly come online
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: in twenty twenty seven. But that project would have helped
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: alleviate prices but New England states were just too.
• 27:10
  Speaker 11: Gung ho about going green.
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: But now we start to see Connecticut, Massachusetts, evehn, you.
• 27:15
  Speaker 11: See the Democrats.
• 27:16
  Speaker 10: They're infighting amongst themselves about affordability, not working in concert
• 27:19
  Speaker 10: with the climate policies.
• 27:21
  Speaker 11: I remember seeing a report.
• 27:22
  Speaker 10: Recently that the one of the committee chairmen challenged the governor,
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: Governor Healey about affordability and said, we need to have
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: these non binding components added to green legislation.
• 27:32
  Speaker 11: We can't force people to do this.
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: So when you have Democratic lawmakers in a very blue
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: state like Massachusetts telling the governor that your green policies
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: are adding to the costs of our constituents, you know
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: something is wrong.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: So hold that thought. Gah, we got to take a break.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Come right back. Very fascinating discussion of long on. Here
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: he is from New York. That Kevin Kevin McCullough, All right,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: we're back times square. Glad you're with us. Gaby Hoffman
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: is with us from the Independent Women's Forum. They can
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: find the results of this poll at independentwomen dot com.
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: I'm okay readily available and if you type in New
• 28:24
  Speaker 10: England Energy Survey, all the results will come out there.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: The reason that I think that this is interesting is because,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: and we were talking during the break, I think you
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: can be as much in favor of having green and
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: renewable and be sensitive to the environment and all that
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: stuff as much as you want to. The minute you
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: start chopping off the monthly budget for a mom to
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: feed and clothe her family, the minute you bite into
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the necessary income that the mom needs to, you know,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: make the families home what she wants it to be,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: those things go right out the window. It's just a
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: matter of the rubber meeting the road, practicality, real life.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I got to pay bills. I think that you've got
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to find solutions for this, and I'm glad to know
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: that i WF is up there asking people what they think.
• 29:15
  Speaker 10: Right And as you know, Kevin, I'm I consider myself
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: a conservationist. I like the outdoors, and I think most
• 29:20
  Speaker 10: of us do, regardless of your political affiliation.
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: We want to see a cleaner environment, clean air, clean water.
• 29:25
  Speaker 11: Nobody wants to have sludge.
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: A little bit of a ways for me, the Potomac
• 29:30
  Speaker 10: has like millions of gallons of sewage. Not quite in
• 29:35
  Speaker 10: the area where we consume drinking water.
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: But above DC that's a problem.
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: So I think you know, when you are presented with
• 29:41
  Speaker 10: glaringly clear environmental problems, you want those to be solved.
• 29:44
  Speaker 11: Does that mean you tax and spend people?
• 29:46
  Speaker 10: Does it mean instituting green green taxes or green fees?
• 29:50
  Speaker 12: No?
• 29:50
  Speaker 10: And I think even women are coming around to seeing
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: that my perhaps you know, intention to support a clean
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: environment this kind of emotion tie I have to the
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: cost would get trumped by higher costs associated with this
• 30:05
  Speaker 10: cause I'm supporting. So men understand this a little better.
• 30:08
  Speaker 10: Women are starting to come around. And that's what our
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: poll showed because for many, many years, the Associated Press
• 30:14
  Speaker 10: and u University of Chicago have always put out this
• 30:17
  Speaker 10: yearly poll that's been picked up by center right institutions
• 30:19
  Speaker 10: center left institutions that found that and increasingly actually over
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: the last few years, they have found that people are not.
• 30:27
  Speaker 11: Of course, overall, the top.
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: Line finding was people do not want to pay more
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: than one dollar a month to fight climate change or
• 30:32
  Speaker 10: to support green policies. And the support for that was
• 30:35
  Speaker 10: like in the fifty percent tile in the last five years.
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: The last year when they asked people specifically, like are
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: you willing to pay even one more dollar, that figure
• 30:43
  Speaker 10: went down to thirty eight percent. So even one dollar
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: is too much each month for paying monthly bills because
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: people see those costs add up, and when your state
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: is adding these green fees, slapping those on, and those
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: add up, and you're noticing. In Massachusetts, I noticed in
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: a Twitter post someone broke down like an audit of
• 31:03
  Speaker 10: your utility bill in the state, and they found that
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: only seventeen percent of what your bill you're paying for
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: is actually going to electricity, forty five percent is going
• 31:11
  Speaker 10: to green made it's thirty seven percent.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Like I would lose my mind if that was if
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: the and I don't I don't even want to look
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: at the bill that we pay. I mean, it's a
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: good thing the Lovely Bride does it, because I think
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I probably would. But that's that's criminal.
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: Every state should demand this. Every person in New England
• 31:27
  Speaker 10: should demand an audit. I don't know if this guy
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: used a tool, he might have some access to something,
• 31:31
  Speaker 10: but the way that he calculated that, I bet you
• 31:33
  Speaker 10: that's not just exclusive to Massachusetts. I bet all the
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: New England states and maybe a lot of these blue
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: states do something similar.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I think you're probably right. Give me another finding or
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: two from the poll that you were surprised or at
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: least very pleased to see happen.
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: I was very astonished in a positive way to see
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: the growing support for natural gas.
• 31:55
  Speaker 11: I alluded to this earlier.
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: How policymakers in the region above New York, of course
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: had this reluctance to allow for natural gas pipelines or
• 32:05
  Speaker 10: natural gas infrastructure. They wanted to even close that terminal
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: in Massachusetts because it wasn't fitting into the Biden Harris
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: agenda of it being in the public interest. So that
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: really did almost kind of harm this LNG terminal that
• 32:22
  Speaker 10: is very integral for I believe it was experts or imports,
• 32:25
  Speaker 10: one of the other I think for imports, maybe in
• 32:28
  Speaker 10: New England.
• 32:28
  Speaker 11: So they were set to close that.
• 32:29
  Speaker 10: I think the Trump administration said, no, we need to
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: keep this online. This is a very important place for
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: taking in imports of lerg or exporting energy in the region.
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: So even something like that, which shouldn't be controversial, was
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: kept alive. But women, even though they had always had
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: the skepticism of natural gas they thought it was a dirty,
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: ugly fossil fuel, they have seen the value and the
• 32:53
  Speaker 10: importance of having it, especially with winter storms or volatility
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: with weather or just unforeseen know, things that happen, and
• 33:01
  Speaker 10: natural gas, which has been cast as this very bad
• 33:05
  Speaker 10: type of source, is not being seen as green. You
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: have states now adopting different laws recognizing it as a
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: green fuel, which I think is great. Maybe it's like
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: a it's a way to own the libs. I'm not
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: sure if that's the intent behind it, so to speak,
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: but it is a green, clean burning fuel it amidst
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: lower emissions.
• 33:22
  Speaker 11: I like coal.
• 33:22
  Speaker 10: That doesn't mean that, you know, you know, supporting this
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: over coal means coal doesn't have a value.
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: I think coal can work in various different places.
• 33:28
  Speaker 10: It's going to be probably the third largest electricity generation source,
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: and that's what it's showing to us now that it is.
• 33:35
  Speaker 10: But we saw in New England that they had to
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: go back to petroleum oil and natural gas, primarily petroleum oil,
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: which I don't think it's fine. I think there's plenty
• 33:44
  Speaker 10: of resources and there should be a reserve there. But
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: I would think that in those states they have not
• 33:48
  Speaker 10: planned to have permanent reserves. They want to move away
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: from that. With all this adoption of renewable solar move
• 33:53
  Speaker 10: into particular, so women, this was even done before the
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: storm came out. We had released we had conducted the
• 33:59
  Speaker 10: pole November time frame through December, so right before winterstorm
• 34:04
  Speaker 10: Firm Caine. But this was top of mind for women,
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: like what source is going to keep the lights on,
• 34:08
  Speaker 10: keep me warm if a storm is going to happen,
• 34:10
  Speaker 10: and they inclined to natural gas. They like geothermal and
• 34:12
  Speaker 10: geothermal is a great resource. So there's not that many
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: deposits in New England or the northeast. You find those
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: more out west. And we do have a little bit
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: to work on with nuclear. That's something we would like
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: to help change. And for some reason women again back
• 34:27
  Speaker 10: to this environmental question, they think nuclear is more dangerous
• 34:30
  Speaker 10: because of the waste component. But the waste, as you know,
• 34:32
  Speaker 10: is very safely stored, and the waste that we have
• 34:35
  Speaker 10: available now are that is stored, that is spent fuel
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: no longer in use for powering these reactors. It can
• 34:41
  Speaker 10: fit one and a half football fields essentially, and you
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: only need the equivalent of like a soda can worth
• 34:48
  Speaker 10: of nuclear to power your entire life. That's very illuminating,
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: very positive in my opinion. But for some reason, women
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: are terrified because of a Soviet failure in Chernobyl, which
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: was not a technology failure, just the central planning failure,
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: and even Fukushima and Three Mile Island.
• 35:05
  Speaker 11: Thankfully those didn't have any casualties.
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: And since those incidences have occurred, the industry has said
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: that we're going to be taking even more safety precautions.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: The standards, the standards on reactors and particularly the mobile
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: reactors that are now coming online that people are starting
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to put together, they're so they're so incredibly safe, and
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: that is one of the messages we need to get out.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Friends.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: If you want to know more about this poll, and
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: it is really fascinating, Independentwomen dot Com, Independentwomen dot Com,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't mention this yesterday, but I did see the
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  Speaker 1: beginnings of it. Pope Leo, and let's be reminded, he's
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  Speaker 1: an American pope, so he unlikes some of the guys
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  Speaker 1: from other parts of the world that serve in that position.
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  Speaker 1: He knows really well the climate and tenor and what's
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  Speaker 1: going on here in the US, and he weighed in
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  Speaker 1: on the immigration issue yesterday, and he did. And I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be disrespectful to the Pope. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: It's not it's not my desire to denegrade someone who
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  Speaker 1: many many Christians look to as a pastor figure in
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  Speaker 1: their life, you know, and I don't. I don't have anything. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I've got many very close friends that are Catholic, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to do anything that would, you know,
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  Speaker 1: damage a relationship that they have with their pastor. But
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  Speaker 1: I think pastors need to be careful when they weigh
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  Speaker 1: in on stuff because if you are clergy and you're
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  Speaker 1: weighing in on political stuff and you're using the Bible
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  Speaker 1: as justification, I think you open yourself up to biblical
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  Speaker 1: critical thinking. And yesterday Pope Leo came out and implied
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  Speaker 1: that enforcement of immigration law violates the tenant of what
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  Speaker 1: being a Christian is that there is a that there,
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  Speaker 1: that it's that it's in some way not compassionate, that
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  Speaker 1: it's in some way inconsistent with Christian teaching or with
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  Speaker 1: Jesus himself. And of course, because the Pope said it,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: you got to run over to Congress and ask anybody
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  Speaker 1: who feigns religion, you know, religion, that you got to
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  Speaker 1: ask them their opinion. This is what the media did.
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  Speaker 1: And so they went and found speaker Mike Johnson, who
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  Speaker 1: is an evangelical. He is of the Christian faith, not
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  Speaker 1: the same necessarily stripe that pop Leo would claim, but
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: they both adhere to the same Bible. They both adhere
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  Speaker 1: to the Jesus of the Bible, and so they ask him, well,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think about what pop Leo said? And
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• 39:03
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that there's any room for, you know,
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  Speaker 1: smushing around the edges and saying, well, we just agree
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  Speaker 1: that to be, you know, denigrating to anyone. But when
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  Speaker 1: you go and ask Speaker Johnson and he comes back
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  Speaker 1: with a scripture and an entire you know, thought out
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  Speaker 1: worldview on the matter from a biblical perspective, I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's you just should you should expect that. So that's
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  Speaker 1: what that's what Speaker Johnson has laid out. Uh and
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson and Pope Leo and what they said and
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  Speaker 1: I thought, hey, that's that's good progress. We won a
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  Speaker 1: Here's another piece of interesting news yesterday. Pope Leo. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not Catholic, and I'd mean no disrespect to the
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  Speaker 1: Holy Father, who I don't acknowledge as the Holy Father.
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  Speaker 1: He's not my Holy Father. I'm not Catholic, but for
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: the many that revere him as such, I'm not trying
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  Speaker 1: to be disrespectful, but it was an exchange that was
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  Speaker 1: brief and very revealing. Speaker Mike Johnson was asked yesterday
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  Speaker 1: about Pope Leo's rhetoric criticizing border enforcement and America's immigration policies,
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  Speaker 1: and the speaker didn't respond with talking points or partisan
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  Speaker 1: slogans or spin. He quoted scripture. Specifically. Speaker Johnson cited
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  Speaker 1: Romans thirteen, a passage that has more or less anchored
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  Speaker 1: Christian teaching on civil authority for nearly two thousand years,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: reminding listeners that government is instituted by God to restrain
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: evil and to promote order. In other words, borders matter,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: law matters, order matters, and caring about them is not
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: a betrayal of Christian compassion. It's an expression of it.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: That response, reported by Fox News last night, was thoughtful, grounded,
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  Speaker 1: biblically sound, and consistent, and it stands in sharp contrast
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  Speaker 1: to much of what passes today for fail based commentary
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  Speaker 1: on the issue of immigration. I'm I'm sure you've experienced this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you have friends that are like, well, we're
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: supposed to be kind, we're Christians, and that brings us,
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  Speaker 1: respectfully to Pope Leo. As the spiritual leader of more
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  Speaker 1: than a billion Catholics worldwide, his words carry enormous moral weight,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: and when he speaks about migrants and borders and national responsibility,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: he's not simply offering a private opinion. He is shaping consciences,
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  Speaker 1: and in this case he should know better. Christian compassion
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  Speaker 1: does not mean open borders. It never has, and you
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: know where that's more evident than anywhere else on the planet.
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  Speaker 1: Vatican City Scripture is clear on two parallel truths that
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  Speaker 1: can both be true at the same time, not pitted
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  Speaker 1: against each other. First, human beings are made in God's
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  Speaker 1: image the imago day. You hear me talk about that
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  Speaker 1: all the time. They deserve dignity, they deserve mercy, they
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  Speaker 1: deserve care. Also true, ordains civil authority to establish boundaries,
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  Speaker 1: enforced laws, and restrain chaos. Both are true, Both can
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  Speaker 1: be equally true at the same time. The Bible doesn't
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  Speaker 1: present compassion and order as in some way competing against
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  Speaker 1: each other or being opposite. It presents them as partners.
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  Speaker 1: And Romans thirteen teaches that governing authorities are God's servants
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  Speaker 1: tasked with maintaining justice. Proverbs warns that a society without
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: boundaries invites destruction. Nehemiah rebuilt Jerusalem's walls precisely so that
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: vulnerable people would be protected. Even in the New Testament,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: cities had gates, nations had borders, communities had structure. None
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: of this contradicts loving your neighbor. It enables it. Speaker
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  Speaker 1: Johnson understood this when he answered the question. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: dismiss the suffering of migrants. He didn't mock the poor,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't harden his heart. He simply refused to pretend
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  Speaker 1: that lawlessness is love, and it's not. And that matters
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  Speaker 1: because what we have witnessed over the past several years
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  Speaker 1: is not compassion. It is negligence, and it's been dressed
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  Speaker 1: up as virtue. Millions of people have crossed the southern
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  Speaker 1: border illegally. Many have been exploited by cartels. Thousands have
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: been trapped, hundreds of thousands have been trafficked. Countless men,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: accountless women and children have been abused, and communities have
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  Speaker 1: been overwhelmed. Schools and hospitals have been strained. Fentanyl has
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: poured in, criminal networks have expanded here in the US.
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  Speaker 1: None of that is compassionate. None of that reflects christ
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  Speaker 1: When leaders insist that enforcing immigration law is somehow Unchristian,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: they are not consistent with the Gospel. What they are
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: promoting is chaos. Jesus fed the hungry, he healed the sick,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: He welcomed the outcast. He also respected authority, He affirmed
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: lawful order, He paid taxes. He told his followers to
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: render to Caesar what belonged to Caesar. He never endorsed anarchy.
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  Speaker 1: The modern progressive religious narrative suggests that any restriction on
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  Speaker 1: immigration is immoral, that any enforcement is cruel, and that
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  Speaker 1: any border is sinful. That narrative is simply not biblical.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: It's political, and it's done enormous harm, but it's not biblical.
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  Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson's response cut through that fog. He reminded the
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  Speaker 1: country that Christians are allowed, indeed obligated, to care about
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  Speaker 1: both mercy and truth, about both compassion and responsibility. You
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: can welcome the stranger and still insist that entry be lawful.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: You can help the poor and still secure your border.
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  Speaker 1: You can be a Christian and still believe that sovereignty matters.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: In fact, you cannot faithfully be one without believing that
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: because disorder always hurts the weakest. Firstanity is not a
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  Speaker 1: talking point factory. It's a truth tradition. It teaches that
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  Speaker 1: every person matters, and that order matters, and that justice matters,
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  Speaker 1: and that responsibility matters. Speaker Johnson honored that tradition. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't posture, he didn't pand er, he didn't perform. He
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  Speaker 1: answered like a Christian who has actually read his Bible.
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  Speaker 1: And in an age when so many leaders confuse sentimentality
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  Speaker 1: with virtue, that's refreshing and necessary. We need more voices filling.
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  Speaker 1: We need more voices willing to say what scripture actually says,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: even when it's inconvenient. We need fewer sermons built on
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: feelings and more built on truth. We need compassion anchored
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  Speaker 1: in wisdom. We need church leaders who remember that moral
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: clarity is not cruelty, it is love. So to Pope Leo,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: with all due respect, please do better, not louder, not softer,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Better better grounded, better informed, better aligned with the word
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: you are called to defend. And to Speaker joh Hansen,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for reminding the country that faith and facts
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  Speaker 1: still belong in the same sentence. In times like these.
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  Speaker 1: That takes courage and conviction. Both are in short supply,
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  Speaker 1: but both are desperately need. I say that with all earnestness, sincere,
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  Speaker 1: in respect, sincerity, in respect, pop Leo, you know better
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: and you can do better, so please do that. Kevin mccallach,
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  Speaker 1: McCullough, all right, welcome back. It's that Kevin show, that
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  Speaker 1: kind of women that don't have confusion about what a
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  Speaker 1: to come together. And it's going to happen in the
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  Speaker 1: first week of February, February seventh, actually between Salem Media
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  Speaker 1: of New York and the Christian Cultural Center, which is
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  Speaker 1: one of our larger churches in the area, and one
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  Speaker 1: of the speakers that are going to be with us
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  Speaker 1: that day is Asherita Chuchu, who joins us now. And Asherita,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you you coming on. The theme of this
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: conference is an interesting one. It's tied simply enough. And
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I've heard that word used by my mom and my
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  Speaker 1: bride and my daughter in just so many different contexts
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  Speaker 1: because it could be enough, or it could be enough,
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  Speaker 1: or it could it could take on any number of
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  Speaker 1: kind of connotations in the tone in which we use it.
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  Speaker 1: But you're coming in to focus us on our focus
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  Speaker 1: those in attendance. I am not a woman, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: confused about this, but those that are in attendance, you're
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  Speaker 1: you're going to focus in on some practical aspects of it.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, welcome to the New York area. And
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  Speaker 1: why is this important to you what you're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin, thank you so much for having me on.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, this is so near and dear to my
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  Speaker 13: heart because I grew up in a Christian family and
• 52:43
  Speaker 13: I had this idea that daily quiet time, daily time
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  Speaker 13: with Jesus like it has to be, it has to
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  Speaker 13: look a certain way, it has to last a certain
• 52:51
  Speaker 13: amount of time, ideally about an hour first thing in
• 52:54
  Speaker 13: the morning, with a cup of coffee at a quiet house.
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  Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I don't because I've never lived than a house like that.
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  Speaker 11: Oh, I mean there's an ideal.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, I would love to have a house like that,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: but that is not my house and it's.
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  Speaker 12: Not mine either, and I don't think any of us
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  Speaker 12: have that ideal scenario.
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  Speaker 4: But we strive for that.
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  Speaker 12: We think, Oh, when I have that time, then I'll
• 53:18
  Speaker 12: sit down and read my Bible. When I have like
• 53:22
  Speaker 12: a half hour of uninterrupted quiet, then I will sit
• 53:24
  Speaker 12: down and pray. Or maybe it's a season of life,
• 53:27
  Speaker 12: like maybe once the kids are grown up and out
• 53:29
  Speaker 12: of the house, then I'll finally get serious about my
• 53:32
  Speaker 12: relationship with Jesus. Then I'll have time when I'm an
• 53:35
  Speaker 12: empty nester or when I'm retired, or we always push
• 53:39
  Speaker 12: for this ideal, perfect season, time and place, and that's
• 53:44
  Speaker 12: just not anyone's reality. Jesus invites all of us to
• 53:48
  Speaker 12: come to him right where we are, right what like,
• 53:53
  Speaker 12: whatever season of life we're in, to come and be
• 53:56
  Speaker 12: with him, and however much time we offer him, if
• 54:01
  Speaker 12: we give it to him from a sincere heart, he
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  Speaker 12: can make it more than enough. I love this picture
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  Speaker 12: of Jesus taking the bread and the fish from a
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  Speaker 12: little boy, and this offering that's given with a sincere heart.
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  Speaker 12: He can then multiply it to feed thousands of people.
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  Speaker 12: That is encouragement that an older woman in my church
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  Speaker 12: gave me when I was a young mom. Just I
• 54:27
  Speaker 12: was like, I think twenty four and I was like, Carmen,
• 54:30
  Speaker 12: I just I don't have time.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: I don't have enough time to read my Bible.
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  Speaker 12: And she said, Asherita, if two minutes is all you have,
• 54:39
  Speaker 12: give God your two minutes, and the God who multiplied
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  Speaker 12: the bread and the fish, he will make it enough.
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  Speaker 1: I love the practicality of that. But at the end
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: of the day, you know, if you were to say
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  Speaker 1: that in the context of a relationship, and let's just
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: say it's husband and wife and they say, well, I've
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: got two minutes for you at eleven thirty on a Friday,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: that marriage probably wouldn't sustain very well. So is there
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: ever a balance to just the two or five or
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: ten or fifteen when you have it?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, here's what happens, Kevin, is the more
• 55:15
  Speaker 12: time that the more regularly we carve out those two
• 55:19
  Speaker 12: minutes or five minutes to spend with Jesus, the more
• 55:23
  Speaker 12: he draws our heart to him, the more our resistance
• 55:27
  Speaker 12: to that or our perceived ideal of what it should
• 55:31
  Speaker 12: look like, falls away, and we realized we have succumbs
• 55:35
  Speaker 12: to legalism. Like I don't need a quiet house. I
• 55:38
  Speaker 12: don't need a perfect cup of coffee. I don't need
• 55:42
  Speaker 12: sixty uninterrupted minutes. What I need is time with Jesus.
• 55:46
  Speaker 12: And often even for me, like I'll still do this,
• 55:50
  Speaker 12: I'll be like, Okay, I only have five minutes.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: When I get into those five minutes, Kevin, I don't.
• 55:54
  Speaker 13: Want to leave.
• 55:55
  Speaker 12: So I'm like the dishes can sit in the stink
• 55:57
  Speaker 12: like that email can respond to you later. I want
• 56:01
  Speaker 12: more time with Jesus because he draws our hearts to himself.
• 56:05
  Speaker 12: We know from neuroscience this is how habits are formed.
• 56:09
  Speaker 12: You start small, and you link it to something you're
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  Speaker 12: already doing, and you build consistency. So that is my
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  Speaker 12: heart for women and men, for everyone, that we would
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  Speaker 12: make time with Jesus, the one thing that we strive
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  Speaker 12: for every day, the one thing that we look forward
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  Speaker 12: to every day, and if you have to just tell yourself, okay,
• 56:28
  Speaker 12: it's just going to be a little bit, that's a
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  Speaker 12: little mental trick.
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  Speaker 1: That's better than none.
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  Speaker 4: Get you.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, it'll get you into his presence, and he'll multiply
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  Speaker 12: that so you won't want to leave.
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  Speaker 1: It is interesting because recently my pastor has been challenging
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: those of us that sit under his ministry to own
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: a couple of things. And one is that if you
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: are a person that follows Jesus. Number one, there is
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: no such thing as entirely person entirely private faith like
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: knowing Jesus. Following Jesus at some point, yes, we should
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  Speaker 1: live our testimony in front of everybody, but at some
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: point we've got to use words to tell them about
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  Speaker 1: it as well. That's one area of challenge he's been
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  Speaker 1: giving us. But the other one has been for a
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  Speaker 1: while to think about all aspects of practicing our faith
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: in different ways. So, for instance, we make witnessing very hard.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: We think, well, I've got to have the perfect answer
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: to all the questions if somebody asks, and all that
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: usually does is end up leading us to a place
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: of not answering any questions ever, or even putting it
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: out into the conversation when it's possible, And the same
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: is kind of applicable to our personal study time, reinventing
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: the idea of what it means to commune or walk
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  Speaker 1: with God. I mean, I know that in my own
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  Speaker 1: life a lot of the time I've spent in the
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: car in the New York area, there's a lot of
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: people that sit in a car for a long time
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: to and from their job. A little bit of worship
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: music and a little bit of focusing away from everything
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  Speaker 1: else that's in the in going on in life can
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: draw me directly into sometimes a conversation with Him, saying, Lord,
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  Speaker 1: I need your help on this. This is something that
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I really failed in yesterday. Give me wisdom on that today.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: It's not always that I have the ability to be
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: listening to the word, but you can also do that
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: via word on tape, you know, not on tape, nothing's
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: been on tape for years, but in audio form. And
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I think it's just a matter of kind of practically reclaiming,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: you know, some of our priorities and some of our
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: wasted time. I think about, you know, how much time
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: people spend playing candy crush and stuff like that, and
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: even if you exchanged fifty percent of what you were
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: doing with that for time with Jesus, it would be
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  Speaker 1: worth it.
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  Speaker 12: I love that you bring that up, Vin, because there
• 59:01
  Speaker 12: is such freedom and creativity in our relationship with God.
• 59:06
  Speaker 12: And you brought up so many examples I would say too,
• 59:09
  Speaker 12: like going outside for five minutes first thing in the
• 59:13
  Speaker 12: morning and watching the sun come up over the horizon,
• 59:16
  Speaker 12: Like it's scientifically proven to affect our brain's neuro chemistry
• 59:21
  Speaker 12: and to improve the feel good hormones in our brain
• 59:25
  Speaker 12: if you just take five minutes in the morning to
• 59:27
  Speaker 12: look at the sun come over the horizon, just Lord
• 59:31
  Speaker 12: saying your mercies are new this morning. Great is your faithfulness,
• 59:35
  Speaker 12: like you said, like walk through the last twenty four
• 59:38
  Speaker 12: hours and give thanks for the gifts of God in
• 59:41
  Speaker 12: your life, the small glimmers of joy that the fingerprints
• 59:45
  Speaker 12: of God all over your life and your child's hug
• 59:48
  Speaker 12: or in the person who paid for your Starbucks in
• 59:51
  Speaker 12: line ahead of you, or you know, just pause and
• 59:55
  Speaker 12: recognize God's presence with you. And what I love to
• 59:59
  Speaker 12: encourage people to you is, you know, we started out
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 12: by talking about just the two minutes, and it can
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 12: be enough, But what happens is you link up these
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 12: tiny habits of being with Jesus in the car, listening
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 12: to the Word as you if you're a woman, put
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 12: on makeup. If you're a guy, I don't know, shave
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 12: like listening to the Word as you're doing that. Replace
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 12: scrolling on your phone or being on social media first
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 12: thing in the morning with being in the Word. As
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 12: we fill our lives with these tiny habits, these small
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 12: touch points.
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  Speaker 4: With God, he fills.
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  Speaker 11: Our lives with more of himself.
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  Speaker 3: And again, that is enough.
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  Speaker 1: It's a given promise. All right, friends, come February seventh
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  Speaker 1: for that day. I share read it. Thanks for spending
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  Speaker 1: some time with us today. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: Kevin, thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 11: And I'm super excited about the conference. Can't wait to
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  Speaker 11: see so many women there in.
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  Speaker 1: New York City, coming right back from Times Squared. Uncle, Why.
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  Speaker 9: Let's stick around for more of that. Kevin next.
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  Speaker 3: Here he is from New York. That Kevin. Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back, Kevin mccallaugh. Glad to have you
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: with us as we continue to roll on on the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Thursday edition. Some updated news on a story we started
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: following for you more than a year ago and for
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: those of you that are just getting the show in
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: recent weeks. Yeah, we've been around for a while, but
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: this is one that I was watching because there were
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: girls that were getting hurt. There were girls that were
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: getting physically injured, and then there were other girls that
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: were being i don't know, morally intimidated and psychologically hurt.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: But there's been some response here. Welcome to that Kevin show.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Glad you're with us. The parents of former San Jose
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: State University volleyball co captain Brooke Slusser made their first
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: public statement since the US Department of Education has determined
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: that San Jose State University violated Title nine. While while
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Slusser was enrolled, she emerged as a central figure opposing
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: the university during a twenty twenty four scandal involving transathlete
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Blair Fleming, trans athlete translation a dude. Slusser filed a
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: lawsuit against representatives of San Jose State University and the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Mountain West Conference after she was made to share a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: bedroom and changing spaces with Fleming without being told of
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Fleming's biological sex. Okay, you're probably going to run into
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: a tough outcome on this anyway, University, but to do
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: so without informing the girl. The Education Department concluded that
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  Speaker 1: the transathlete conspired with an opposing player to have an
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: SJSU teammate, presumably Slusser, spiked in the face during a match.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Slusher's parents, Paul and Kim Slusser, provided a joint statement
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  Speaker 1: to Fox Digital addressing the crackdown. We're thrilled that the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Trump administration, Secretary McMahon and the Department of Ed are
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: taking action on the issue of men and women's sports,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: something the last administration did not do. San Jose State
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: University completely failed it's female athletes, and it's about time
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: they're held accountable, said the family. We're watching closely to
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  Speaker 1: see how they respond, and our next step is to
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  Speaker 1: fight the injustice in court. San Jose State and mount
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: West conference betrayed the volleyball team and they will have
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: to answer for it. The parents had to watch their
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: daughter endure an eating disorder and an academic setback as
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: a result of the trauma from the scandal. I went
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: from around one hundred and sixty to one hundred and
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: twenty eight pounds in that one semester. It definitely isn't
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: healthy for someone of my size to be that weight,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: and I ended up losing my cycle for nine months,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: so it was definitely severe. The five foot eleven Sluster
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: previously told Fox News. After the twenty twenty four season
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: and fall semester ended, Slusser's parents saw the physical impact
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: the situation took on her and demanded that she come
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: home to Texas as soon as the season was over.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: She came home for Christmas, and we were like, you're
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: not going back. Slusser told Fox News. That was Paul
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Slusser telling Fox News, adding that he told his daughter,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: you can go get your stuff next summer when your
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: lease is up, and stay here. Once winter break was
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: over and what was supposed to be her final semester began,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Brooke attempted to complete her courses online. Her parents said
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: she began online courses, but dropped them shortly later as
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  Speaker 1: Division I scholarship athlete. Dropping classes resulted in her losing
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: the scholarship and her family had to pay for the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: full semester's worth of tuition and her housing out of pocket.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: We had to pay basically her mortgage and her apartment
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: for the rest of the semester, so it was a
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: pretty large financial burden on us. The ED Department Education
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Department gave SJSU an ultimatum to comply with a series
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: of agreements or risk imminent enforcement action. The deadline for
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: that is coming up February eleventh. The terms include issue
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: a public statement to the SASU community that SGSU will
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  Speaker 1: adopt biology based definitions for the words male and female
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  Speaker 1: and acknowledge that the sex of a human male or
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  Speaker 1: female is unchangeable. Specified that SJSU wi follow Title nine
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  Speaker 1: by separating sports and intimate facilities based on sex. State
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  Speaker 1: that SGASU will not delegate its obligation to comply with
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  Speaker 1: Title nine to any external association or entity, and will
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  Speaker 1: not contract with any entity that discriminates on the basis
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  Speaker 1: of sex. Also restore to individual female athletes all individual
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: athletic records and titles misappropriated by male athletes competing in
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  Speaker 1: women's categories, and issue a personal letter of apology on
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  Speaker 1: behalf of SGSU to each female athlete for allowing her
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: participation in athletics to be marred by sex discrimination. That's
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: what the school has to do. And San Jose State,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: a member of the California State Education University System, receive
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: notification from the Federal Department of Ed regarding its investigation
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: into athletics participation. The Department informed the university of the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: outcome of its investigation and its findings. Universities in the
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: process of reviewing that, so who knows, they may even
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: try to fight it. This is the kind of the
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  Speaker 1: really sick part. You've ruined this girl's life. She had
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: to room with the male, she had to change with
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: the male, she had to play against the male, and
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: then when it became the opportunity to have it happen,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: the male organized a way to have her spiked in
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  Speaker 1: the face. I mean, the trauma here is layers upon
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: layers SJSU. They should be dropping to their knees thanking
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: God that they're not yet being sued. But there is
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  Speaker 1: There is absolutely no reason why they should that why
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  Speaker 1: they should in any way be backing off of this
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: or saying to the Feds, oh, we got to review it. No,
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  Speaker 1: that everything that the Federal Department of Education told them
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  Speaker 1: to do, they should do. And good for these parents.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Good for these parents who try to do the best
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: and look out for their child. It's a it's a
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: tough culture that we live in now. It's not a
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: popular thing to do. But parents who stand up for
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: the welfare of their kids, you know, that's always the
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: right thing to do, especially when it comes to this.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: This is so integral to identity and to who they are.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: So good job to this slusser of parents. And I
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  Speaker 1: hope that SJSU decides to make a good decision here
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: San Jose State University. You'd be really stupid to try
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: to go against this. Kevin McCullough coming back, is that
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Kevin chef.
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  Speaker 3: Here? He is from New York, That Kevin Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. It's that Kevin show. And on Thursdays,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: we always set aside a little bit of time to
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: set down the paper, set the top headlines down for
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: a second and say how can we be better parents?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: How can we better grandparents? How can we be better
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: influences on the kids that are in our lives and
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: that we have access to. Shelley Goldberg is back with us,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: former parenting reporter for New York One for many many years,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: and has been here helping us get better at this
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: for the last several years. And Shelley, we're in a
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: very special time of year.
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  Speaker 14: That's right, Kevin. Valentine's Day is around the corner. And
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 14: I know that maybe for you it's just a big, silly,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 14: commercialized Hallmark card time of year, you know, holiday, but
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 14: for kids, it really holds a lot of significance, especially
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 14: for teens and tweens.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just curious, what does it mean to you, Kevin.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, you have the wrong person if you think I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: think it's silly, because I don't. I've always been a
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: sap since I was a kid, and still am. I
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: could do a better job of getting the reservation booked
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: earlier for the restaurant, but I try to do something
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: special every year.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome. I love that answer. I was hoping that you'd
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: say something like that. Thank you.
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  Speaker 14: Okay.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: It's also, by the way, it's a great.
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  Speaker 14: It's one of those times that there's a lot of
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 14: teachable moments, you know, that's what parenting. A good part
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 14: of parenting is about, looking for those times where maybe
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 14: we can have a discussion about something important. Valentine's Day
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 14: is one of those days. But let's start with the simple.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 14: Then we'll move to the complex. Okay, for this, for
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 14: the simple, for the middle aged child, right, this is
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 14: a great, fun, interesting time to do some research. So
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 14: sit around with your kids, Kevin, and research the history
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 14: of Valentine's Day. You know, Saint Valentine and the Roman
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 14: emperor Claudia is the second. But just a history lesson
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 14: will be something you can share with your kids. There's
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 14: also some fabulous facts, Kevin. Do you know who receives
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 14: the most amount of Valentine's Day cards?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Moms?
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  Speaker 4: Teachers?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, well, yeah that makes sense.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a little surprised by that, so teachers.
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  Speaker 14: Also, Valentine's Day is celebrated around the world, not always
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 14: on Valentine's Day in the United States, and it's also
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 14: celebrated in many different ways. So that's something else you
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 14: can share with your kids. And by the way, yes,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 14: candy is the most popular gift, and yes, the flowest
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 14: is the busiest on that day more than any other
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 14: day of the year.
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  Speaker 4: But what do we want kids to know?
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 14: The most important message, especially for young kids, we want
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 14: to convey to them that love comes in all different forms. Yes,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 14: there's romantic love, but there's family love, friend love, pet love,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 14: self love, and of course God's love. And those are
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 14: the conversations we can have. That's what what Valentine's Day
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 14: can bring up for us around the you know, the
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 14: dinner table, the kinds of conversations we can have and kindness.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 14: Underscoring kindness is a great way to show love. The
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 14: other thing you want to convey to your kids that
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 14: words and actions have to go together.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: You can say I love you, I love you, I
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: love you, but if.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 14: You love the family dog, that means you're going to
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 14: take them out for the walk for you.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 14: So sometimes kids don't see the connection, you know, I
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 14: love you, but showing.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: Them that it's words and actions and they go together.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 14: Now, for teens, this is a great opportunity to have
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 14: those other kinds of conversations, you know, Susie John, are
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 14: kids talking about Valentine's Day at school? Is their pressure
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 14: in your school to pair off? What is pairing off mean?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 14: Do you wish you had a girlfriend or a boyfriend
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 14: or qualities? What should you be looking for? And I
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 14: think one of the most important discussions you can have
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  Speaker 14: with your kids.
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  Speaker 4: You want to talk.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 14: About social media, the movies, music, Is it promoting real
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 14: love or something else? So Valentine's Day again can give
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 14: you a great opportunity to bring up these kinds of topics.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 14: All right, then, how do you celebrate Valentine's Day in
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 14: your home?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: Simple, easy, breezy ways.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 14: Of course, you can take the pancakes and you can
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 14: make heartshad pancakes.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: You know you can, right, I have a feeling you've
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: already done that.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 14: You want to make homemade cards, not the storeboard kinds,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 14: Especially with younger kids, It's so much fun. I remember
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 14: doing that. It's a glorious time. In your child's lunch box.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 14: Put a lunch box note to remind them how much
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 14: you love them. Read books about kindness, do a family
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 14: gratitude check in at dinner. Everyone you go around the
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 14: table and everyone shares what they're grateful for. And you know,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 14: with everyone at the table, talk about the things you like,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 14: you love about yourself, and I love this one community
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 14: love discuss with a family what you can local nursing home,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 14: or maybe there's an appur animal shelter, so for Valentine's Day,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 14: everybody can go and bring some treats for dogs you
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 14: know that are homeless or in the shelters. So those
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 14: are the kinds of things that you can easily do. Kevin,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 14: your thoughts about the holiday and how you've spent it
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 14: with your children.
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  Speaker 1: In our house, there is a running conversation about and
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  Speaker 1: I'll put it this way. It kind of starts like
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  Speaker 1: this mom will say to the boys, someday when you
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  Speaker 1: have a girlfriend, or when you have a wife, or
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  Speaker 1: when you have a family, and then fill in the blank.
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  Speaker 1: But it's an observation about how life sometimes measures up
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  Speaker 1: differently than just what our feelings or what the culture
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  Speaker 1: tells us that they are. And I think that I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that they're too young to begin to understand it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's all contextually appropriate, but I think it
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  Speaker 1: helps them because they seem to have a better balance
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  Speaker 1: and understanding of kind of what the full definition of
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  Speaker 1: love looks like. And I think that if we can
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  Speaker 1: get people to that place, I think we can have
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  Speaker 1: a better world.
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  Speaker 4: Oh I love that, Kevin.
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  Speaker 14: So it sounds to me like what you're underscoring in
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  Speaker 14: your family is, yes, all around us is the romantic
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  Speaker 14: love and the idealized love and things that sometimes are
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  Speaker 14: not realistic because when you really are in a loving relationship, whether.
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  Speaker 4: It's romantically with the friend, with you, with your family.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, you have to say things sometimes that are not
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  Speaker 14: always pleasant or well received. But it's because you love
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  Speaker 14: that and that's part and that's part of the love equation.
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  Speaker 1: And it's for their it's for their ultimate good, and
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  Speaker 1: that's that's kind of what I define love as the
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  Speaker 1: action I'm about to take. Is it for the person
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  Speaker 1: that I'm about to take it for? Is it for
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  Speaker 1: their ultimate good? And if it is, then it's loving you.
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  Speaker 1: And if it's not, then you know, I need to
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  Speaker 1: reevaluate my motives on it or what have you. But
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  Speaker 1: really good stuff. And I think the other part is
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  Speaker 1: just keep having the conversation, just to have a role
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  Speaker 1: in conversation. As often as it comes up, talk about it,
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  Speaker 1: and whenever you see an opportunity to kind of put
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  Speaker 1: a little, you know, period on a sentence about it,
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  Speaker 1: do it. I think it makes a difference. Shelley Goldberg.
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  Speaker 1: Always appreciate you.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Kevin. Happy to Valentine's Day and.
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  Speaker 1: You as well. It's Kevin mccallough coming back from New York.
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  Speaker 9: Let's stick around for more of that Kevin next, serving
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  Speaker 9: it up with a no drink mental.
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  Speaker 3: It's that Kevin Show.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back Kevin McCullough. Final a few minutes
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  Speaker 1: for the Thursday version and glad to have you with us.
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• 1:17:13
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  Speaker 1: a bit interesting because yesterday I reported to you the
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  Speaker 1: really I will echo this again, the unusually good news
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  Speaker 1: that one of the medical major medical groups in the
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  Speaker 1: US has finally said, not so fast on the trans
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  Speaker 1: surgeries for kids. It's not advised, it's bad, it's not
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  Speaker 1: good for them.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 1: JK. Rowling, who wrote the Harry Potter series, has been
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  Speaker 1: really really stalwart on this issue from the very beginning,
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  Speaker 1: and she's taken a lot of flak from the groups
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  Speaker 1: that want to do these surgeries on children, and they've
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  Speaker 1: called her every name of the book. They've tried to
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  Speaker 1: cancel her, and she's not given in an inch. But
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  Speaker 1: the famed author has also said this in the following
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  Speaker 1: just recent days, as the floodgates open and more and
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  Speaker 1: more de transitioners sue the clinicians who subjected them to
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  Speaker 1: an unregulated medical experiment, gender identity activists will almost certainly
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  Speaker 1: continue to ignore any evidence that fails to support their
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  Speaker 1: preferred narrative. They'll keep insisting that hardly any transitioned people
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  Speaker 1: regret their irreversible procedures, that gender clinicians know exactly what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing, that surgeries cross sex hormones puberty blockers are
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  Speaker 1: of proven benefit, and that miners who are denied these
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  Speaker 1: treatments will go to kill themselves. All of this is
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  Speaker 1: a lie, says Rolling. This will go down in history
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  Speaker 1: as one of the worst medical scandals of all time.
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  Speaker 1: Adults inside and outside the medical profession sold troubled young
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  Speaker 1: people like Varian the idea that all of the complex
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  Speaker 1: trauma would be resolved by removing healthy body parts. As
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  Speaker 1: more and more detransitioners arrive in court, the public will
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  Speaker 1: learn the full extent of the harm done to kids
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  Speaker 1: in the name of ideology. Clinicians performing these treatments will
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  Speaker 1: go down in history as barber barbarous activists who betrayed
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  Speaker 1: a sacred oath to do no harm. But we should
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  Speaker 1: never forget how many people outside the medical profession urged
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  Speaker 1: these young people on gleefully assuring them that anyone advising
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  Speaker 1: caution was an evil bigot. Never forget, because only by
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  Speaker 1: learning the lesson can we stop this from happening again.
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  Speaker 1: That's the famed author of the Harry Potter series, JK. Rowling,
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  Speaker 1: and she has been wildly consistent on this. In part,
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  Speaker 1: I think she was one of the big reasons why
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  Speaker 1: the public health clinics in the UK stopped. They abandoned
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  Speaker 1: all of this nonsense about a decade ago. They saw
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  Speaker 1: that it was having ill effect on the kids that
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  Speaker 1: it was being done to, and they also realized it
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  Speaker 1: was very expensive and in the socialized world, they don't
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  Speaker 1: like expen surgeries, so there were multiple reasons why they
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  Speaker 1: decided to just halt everything mid practice, but Jk's voice
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  Speaker 1: was one of the and she consistently said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: women have a right to be safe in women's spaces.
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  Speaker 1: For that, for just saying that, she they tried to
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  Speaker 1: cancel her. But now she's really calling a spade a spade,
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  Speaker 1: and she's right. When the clinics get the legal bills
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  Speaker 1: on what they are going to be found guilty for,
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  Speaker 1: it is not It is going to be very ugly.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I'm not I'm not saying just saying this,
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  Speaker 1: I really believe it. I believe that a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: these medical practitioner practitioners should have their should have their
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  Speaker 1: licenses suspended, because if you've promised to not do harm
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  Speaker 1: and you're you're cutting off healthy body parts, not cancerous,
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  Speaker 1: not infected, not diseased, not anything else, totally healthy body
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  Speaker 1: parts and you're cutting them off, you're part of the problem.
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  Speaker 1: And now that we know that sex can never be changed,
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  Speaker 1: will never be changed, this is even more irresponsible on
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  Speaker 1: the people that are doing it, and to continue to
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  Speaker 1: defend it, like some of them are still out there
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  Speaker 1: defending it. That's nearly impossible to believe anyway. Kevin McCullough
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for thinking through these issues with me today
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  Speaker 1: and join us tomorrow, same time, right here for that
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Show.