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A Festive Evening with Mark Canha, Bob Bourne, and stars from "It’s a Wonderful Life · WGBB Sports Talk New York

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following
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program
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not
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necessarily
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represent
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those
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of
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the
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staff,
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owners
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York,
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this
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is
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Sports
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Talk
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New
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York.
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Good
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evening
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and
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hello
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again
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everybody.
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Welcome
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welcome
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to
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Sports
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Talk
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WGB
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Merrick,
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Long
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Island,
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New
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York.
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Bill
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Donahue
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here
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with
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you
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on
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this
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the
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28th
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day
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of
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December
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2025.
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It's
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the
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final
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show
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for
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me
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in
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2025
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and
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it
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just
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happens
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to
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be
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our
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holiday
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spectacular.
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Glad
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to
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have
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you
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with
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us
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this
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wintry
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weekend
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here
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on
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Long
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Island.
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Heartfelt
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thank
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you
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to
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our
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amazing
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engineer
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Brian
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Graves
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for
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his
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wonderful
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service
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throughout
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the
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year.
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Glad
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to
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have
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you
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aboard
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with
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us
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tonight.
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We've
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got
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a
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great
1:07
show
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up
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ahead
1:08
for
1:08
you.
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Up
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first,
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we
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welcome
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in
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a
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great
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guy,
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so
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many
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things
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to
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talk
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to
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him
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about.
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Former
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Mets
1:14
outfielder
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Mark
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Cannon
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will
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join
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us
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next.
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One
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of
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our
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very
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special
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guests
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will
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join
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us
1:20
again
1:20
this
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year
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for
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our
1:21
holiday
1:21
show.
1:22
Carolyn
1:23
Grimes,
1:23
who
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of
1:24
course
1:24
played
1:25
Zuzu
1:25
Bailey
1:26
in
1:26
the
1:26
and
1:26
It's
1:27
a
1:27
Wonderful
1:27
Life
1:27
will
1:28
join
1:28
the
1:28
show.
1:29
In
1:29
the
1:29
nine
1:30
o'
1:30
clock
1:30
hour
1:31
we
1:31
have
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four
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time
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Stanley
1:33
cup
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champion
1:33
New
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York
1:34
Islander,
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the
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great
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number
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14
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on
1:37
those
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legendary
1:38
Dynasty
1:39
Isles
1:39
teams.
1:40
Bob
1:41
Bourne
1:41
will
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speak
1:41
with
1:42
us.
1:42
Finally,
1:43
we'll
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wrap
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things
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up
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with
1:45
another
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cast
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member
1:46
of
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the
1:47
holiday
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classic
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It's
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a
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Wonderful
1:49
Life.
1:50
Jimmy
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Hawkins
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will
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join
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the
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show.
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He
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of
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course
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will
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was
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Tommy
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Bailey,
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the
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youngest
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son
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of
1:56
Jimmy
1:56
Stewart
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and
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Donna
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Reed,
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who
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was
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only
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he
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was
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only
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really
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looking
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to
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be
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excused
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for
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burping.
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That
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was
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his
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problem.
2:04
That's
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all.
2:05
Wonderful
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holiday
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show
2:06
for
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all
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of
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us
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to
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enjoy.
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So
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there
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you
2:09
have
2:09
it.
2:09
Some
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great
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chats,
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some
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great
2:11
memories
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to
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relive
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and
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to
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be
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made
2:13
up
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ahead
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on
2:15
Sports
2:15
Talk
2:15
New
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York
2:16
tonight.
2:16
As
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always,
2:17
before
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we
2:18
begin,
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I
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invite
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you
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to
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follow
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me
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on
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my
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Facebook
2:20
page.
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That
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is
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the
2:22
talk
2:22
of
2:22
New
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York
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sports.
2:24
So
2:24
much
2:24
information
2:25
there.
2:25
Photos,
2:26
show
2:26
information,
2:27
stop
2:27
by,
2:28
take
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a
2:28
look.
2:29
You
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can
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also
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follow
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me
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on
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X
2:32
Donahue
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wgbb.
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All
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one
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word.
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And
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if
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you
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miss
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a
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show,
2:36
don't
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worry
2:37
because
2:37
they're
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all
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out
2:38
on
2:38
the
2:39
website
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the
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next
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day.
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Www.sportstalknewyork.com.
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you
2:44
can
2:45
review
2:45
them
2:46
any
2:47
of
2:47
your
2:47
favorites
2:48
at
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any
2:48
time.
2:49
That's
2:49
www.sportstalkny.com.
2:53
don't
2:54
make
2:54
that
2:54
mistake.
2:55
Well,
2:55
our
2:55
first
2:55
guest,
2:56
he
2:56
made
2:56
his
2:57
major
2:57
league
2:57
debut
2:58
in
2:58
2015
2:59
with
2:59
the
2:59
Oakland
3:00
A's.
3:01
Since
3:01
then
3:02
he's
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done
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Nothing
3:03
but
3:03
hit
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121
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home
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runs
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and
3:05
driven
3:05
in
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465
3:07
runs.
3:08
We
3:08
of
3:09
course
3:09
remember
3:09
him
3:10
with
3:10
the
3:10
Mets.
3:11
He's
3:11
also
3:11
what's
3:12
described
3:12
as
3:13
a
3:13
foodie.
3:14
And
3:14
we're
3:14
going
3:14
to
3:15
find
3:15
out
3:15
much
3:15
more
3:16
about
3:16
that.
3:17
Welcome
3:17
to
3:17
the
3:17
show
3:18
tonight,
3:18
Mark
3:18
Canna.
3:19
Mark,
3:19
good
3:19
evening.
3:21
Hey,
3:22
Bill,
3:22
thanks
3:22
for
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having
3:22
me.
3:23
Wonderful
3:24
to
3:24
have
3:24
you,
3:24
Mark.
3:24
Now,
3:25
did
3:25
you
3:26
grow
3:26
up
3:26
in
3:26
California?
3:28
I
3:29
did.
3:29
I
3:29
grew
3:29
up
3:29
in
3:30
San
3:30
Jose.
3:30
Gotcha.
3:31
All
3:31
right,
3:31
now,
3:32
who
3:32
were
3:32
your
3:32
teams
3:33
and
3:33
your
3:33
heroes
3:34
as
3:34
a
3:34
kid?
3:37
I
3:37
was
3:37
a
3:38
San
3:38
Jose
3:38
Sharks
3:39
fan.
3:40
San
3:41
Francisco
3:41
Giants
3:42
and
3:43
49ers.
3:44
So.
3:46
Jerry
3:47
Rice,
3:48
Steve
3:48
Young,
3:49
Joe
3:49
Montana,
3:53
Owen
3:54
Nolan
3:55
Jeffries
3:55
and
3:56
Archers
3:56
Urbe
3:57
on
3:57
the
3:57
Sharks
3:58
and
3:58
Barry
3:59
Bonds
3:59
and
4:02
maybe
4:03
like
4:03
Jeff
4:03
Kent
4:04
and
4:06
yeah,
4:07
among
4:07
others
4:07
on
4:08
the
4:08
Giants.
4:09
Yeah,
4:09
some
4:09
great
4:09
names
4:10
there.
4:10
You
4:11
really,
4:12
you
4:12
followed
4:12
some
4:13
good
4:13
guys
4:13
there,
4:13
Mark.
4:14
Now,
4:14
you
4:15
were
4:15
selected
4:15
by
4:15
the
4:16
Marlins
4:16
in
4:16
the
4:16
seventh
4:17
round
4:17
2010
4:18
draft.
4:19
I
4:19
happen
4:20
to
4:20
love
4:20
the
4:20
minor
4:21
leagues,
4:21
Marcus.
4:22
I
4:22
love
4:22
the
4:22
names,
4:23
the
4:23
towns,
4:24
the
4:24
ballparks.
4:25
And
4:25
you
4:25
played
4:26
for
4:26
a
4:26
couple
4:26
of
4:26
my
4:27
favorites.
4:27
The
4:27
Jamestown
4:28
Jammers
4:29
were
4:29
one
4:29
of
4:29
my
4:30
favorites.
4:30
Now
4:30
that
4:31
was
4:31
the
4:31
New
4:31
York
4:31
Penn
4:32
League.
4:32
Wasn't.
4:34
Was.
4:34
Yeah.
4:35
Low
4:35
eight
4:35
short
4:35
season.
4:36
Yeah.
4:37
And
4:37
then
4:37
the
4:37
Jupiter
4:37
Hammerheads.
4:38
That
4:38
was
4:39
Florida
4:39
State
4:39
League.
4:41
Yep.
4:42
How
4:42
about
4:42
those
4:43
towns
4:43
and
4:43
the
4:43
teams
4:44
in
4:45
the
4:45
minors
4:46
that
4:46
you
4:46
played
4:46
for
4:47
there,
4:47
Mark?
4:50
Well,
4:52
these
4:52
were
4:52
parts
4:53
of
4:53
the
4:53
country
4:53
that
4:54
I
4:55
was
4:55
really
4:55
unfamiliar
4:56
with
4:56
at
4:56
the
4:56
time,
4:57
and
4:58
it
4:58
was
4:58
kind
4:58
of
4:58
eye
4:59
opening
4:59
to
4:59
just
5:01
sign
5:01
a
5:01
professional
5:02
contract
5:03
and
5:03
then
5:03
find
5:03
myself
5:04
in
5:04
Jamestown,
5:05
New
5:05
York,
5:05
which
5:06
I
5:06
don't
5:06
even
5:06
think
5:07
I've
5:07
been
5:07
in
5:07
the
5:07
state
5:08
of
5:08
New
5:08
York.
5:08
So
5:08
that
5:08
was
5:09
my
5:09
first
5:09
taste
5:10
of
5:11
New
5:12
York
5:14
and
5:15
then,
5:15
you
5:16
know,
5:16
Jupiter,
5:16
Florida.
5:17
And
5:18
my
5:18
time
5:18
in
5:18
Jamestown
5:19
was
5:19
pretty
5:19
brief.
5:20
So
5:20
I
5:20
didn't,
5:20
you
5:21
know,
5:21
it
5:21
was
5:21
a
5:21
few
5:21
weeks.
5:22
I
5:22
signed
5:23
late
5:24
in
5:25
August
5:26
and
5:26
so
5:26
I
5:27
didn't
5:27
play
5:27
very
5:28
much
5:29
in
5:30
Jamestown.
5:31
It
5:31
was
5:31
probably
5:32
a
5:32
dozen
5:33
games
5:33
or
5:33
so.
5:35
But
5:35
yeah,
5:35
I
5:35
just
5:35
remember
5:36
being
5:36
a
5:36
young
5:36
kid
5:37
and
5:37
kind
5:38
of
5:39
playing
5:39
a
5:39
lot
5:39
of
5:40
baseball,
5:40
a
5:40
lot
5:40
of
5:41
my
5:41
baseball
5:41
on
5:41
the
5:42
east
5:42
coast
5:42
and
5:45
just
5:46
kind
5:46
of
5:46
learning
5:46
about
5:46
that
5:47
side
5:48
of
5:48
the
5:48
country.
5:49
Did
5:49
you
5:49
know
5:50
Jamestown
5:50
was
5:51
the
5:51
hometown
5:51
of
5:51
Lucille
5:52
Ball?
5:53
Lucille
5:54
Ball,
5:54
Yes.
5:55
I
5:55
learned
5:56
that
5:56
quickly.
5:57
That
5:57
was
5:58
made
5:58
apparent
5:59
quickly
6:00
when
6:00
I
6:00
got
6:00
there.
6:01
And
6:01
I
6:02
think
6:02
that's
6:02
the
6:02
only
6:02
thing
6:03
I
6:03
know
6:03
about
6:03
loose
6:04
about
6:05
Jamestown
6:06
and
6:07
the
6:08
fact
6:08
that
6:08
I
6:09
suppose
6:09
that
6:10
a
6:10
lot
6:10
of
6:10
jam
6:11
was
6:11
produced
6:12
there
6:12
at
6:12
one
6:12
point
6:13
in
6:13
history.
6:14
That's
6:14
about
6:14
the
6:15
only
6:15
thing
6:15
that
6:15
you
6:16
can
6:16
know
6:16
about
6:16
Jamestown,
6:17
New
6:17
York.
6:18
Marcus
6:19
the
6:20
Jam
6:20
and
6:20
Lucy
6:21
is
6:21
from
6:22
there
6:22
now.
6:23
2014,
6:24
chosen
6:24
as
6:25
a
6:25
Rule
6:25
5
6:25
by
6:26
the
6:26
Rockies,
6:27
traded
6:27
to
6:27
the
6:27
A's.
6:28
Must
6:28
have
6:29
been
6:29
great
6:29
to
6:29
go
6:30
back
6:30
to
6:30
Northern
6:30
California.
6:33
It
6:33
was.
6:34
It
6:34
was
6:34
great.
6:34
It
6:35
was
6:35
also,
6:35
I
6:35
mean,
6:36
great
6:36
to
6:36
just
6:36
be
6:37
selected.
6:37
So
6:38
it
6:38
was
6:38
kind
6:38
of
6:38
a
6:39
crazy
6:39
situation
6:40
for
6:40
me
6:40
because
6:41
I
6:41
was
6:41
at
6:42
the
6:42
crossroads
6:43
of
6:43
my
6:43
career
6:43
and
6:44
wasn't
6:44
sure
6:45
where
6:45
my
6:45
career
6:46
was
6:46
going
6:46
to
6:46
go.
6:48
And
6:49
it
6:49
was
6:49
very
6:49
apparent
6:50
that
6:50
it
6:50
wasn't
6:51
going
6:51
very
6:52
far
6:52
with
6:52
the
6:52
Marlins.
6:53
So
6:53
I
6:53
was
6:54
hoping
6:55
and
6:55
praying
6:55
that
6:57
that
6:57
Rule
6:57
5
6:58
draft
6:58
worked
6:58
out.
6:58
So
6:59
that
6:59
was
6:59
a
6:59
really
7:00
big
7:00
deal
7:00
for
7:00
me
7:00
in
7:01
my
7:01
career
7:01
and
7:02
turn
7:02
my
7:03
career
7:03
around.
7:04
Now
7:04
2015,
7:05
you
7:05
go
7:05
to
7:05
spring
7:06
training
7:06
with
7:06
the
7:06
A's.
7:07
You
7:07
led
7:08
the
7:08
team
7:09
in
7:09
home
7:09
runs,
7:10
but
7:10
you
7:10
also
7:11
led
7:11
the
7:11
MLB
7:12
in
7:12
strikeouts.
7:13
Mark,
7:14
what,
7:14
what
7:14
happened
7:15
there?
7:16
What
7:16
was
7:16
the
7:16
issue?
7:18
I
7:18
was
7:19
playing
7:19
more
7:19
than
7:19
everybody
7:20
else.
7:22
I
7:22
was
7:22
playing.
7:23
They
7:23
wanted
7:24
to
7:24
get
7:24
a
7:24
good
7:24
look
7:24
at
7:25
me.
7:25
So
7:25
I
7:25
was
7:25
playing
7:26
every
7:26
day
7:26
in
7:26
spring
7:27
training
7:27
and
7:29
so
7:30
I
7:30
was
7:30
able
7:30
to
7:31
amass
7:32
some
7:33
volume
7:33
numbers,
7:34
if
7:34
you
7:34
will.
7:34
And
7:36
it
7:36
was
7:36
a
7:37
great
7:37
spring
7:37
for
7:37
me.
7:37
I
7:37
think
7:38
I
7:38
hit.300.
7:39
And
7:41
for
7:42
being
7:42
only
7:42
my
7:43
second,
7:43
it
7:44
was
7:44
only
7:44
my
7:44
second
7:45
big
7:45
league
7:45
camp
7:45
I'd
7:46
ever
7:46
been
7:46
invited
7:46
to.
7:48
The
7:48
Marlins
7:49
only
7:49
invited
7:49
me
7:49
to
7:50
one
7:50
in
7:50
which
7:50
I
7:51
got
7:51
like
7:52
10
7:52
at
7:52
bats
7:52
or
7:53
something.
7:54
And
7:55
so,
7:55
yeah,
7:56
my
7:56
first
7:56
opportunity
7:57
where
7:58
I
7:58
was
7:58
actually
7:59
trying
7:59
to
7:59
make
7:59
a
7:59
club
8:00
out
8:00
of
8:00
camp,
8:01
a
8:01
big
8:01
league
8:02
roster,
8:02
and
8:02
I
8:03
made
8:03
the
8:03
most
8:03
of
8:03
it.
8:03
You
8:04
did.
8:04
Now
8:04
we're
8:04
speaking
8:05
with
8:05
Mark
8:05
Canna
8:06
tonight
8:06
on
8:06
Sports
8:07
Talk.
8:07
New
8:07
York
8:08
getting
8:09
back
8:09
to
8:09
the
8:09
minors.
8:10
Now,
8:10
Mark,
8:10
in
8:11
2017,
8:11
you
8:12
spent
8:12
some
8:12
time
8:13
with
8:13
the
8:13
Nashville
8:14
Sounds.
8:14
Now
8:15
there's
8:15
another
8:15
team.
8:16
I'm
8:16
going
8:16
to
8:16
try
8:17
to
8:17
go
8:17
to
8:17
Nashville
8:18
in
8:18
the
8:18
spring
8:19
and
8:19
I
8:19
planted
8:20
take
8:20
in
8:20
a
8:21
Sounds
8:21
ball
8:22
game.
8:22
How
8:22
is
8:22
it
8:23
down
8:23
there?
8:24
Nashville's
8:25
a
8:25
fun
8:25
city.
8:27
I'd
8:27
highly
8:27
recommend
8:28
it
8:28
to
8:28
anybody.
8:28
There's
8:29
a
8:29
lot
8:29
going
8:29
on.
8:31
They
8:31
got
8:31
the
8:31
music
8:32
scene,
8:32
which
8:32
everybody
8:33
knows
8:33
about,
8:34
but
8:35
also
8:35
a
8:35
lot
8:35
of
8:35
other
8:36
cool
8:36
stuff,
8:36
a
8:37
lot
8:37
of
8:37
good
8:37
restaurants.
8:38
You
8:38
know,
8:38
I'm
8:38
the
8:38
food
8:39
guy,
8:39
so
8:39
I
8:40
guess
8:40
I'm
8:40
going
8:40
to
8:40
talk
8:40
about
8:41
that.
8:41
But
8:42
the
8:42
ballpark
8:43
in
8:43
Nashville
8:43
is
8:44
great.
8:46
Great
8:46
atmosphere,
8:48
new,
8:48
you
8:49
know,
8:49
newer
8:49
park,
8:50
just
8:52
really
8:52
nice
8:53
kind
8:53
of
8:54
downtown
8:54
ish
8:55
ballpark
8:56
right
8:57
there
8:57
in
8:57
Germantown
8:58
in
8:58
Nashville.
8:59
And
9:00
yeah,
9:01
I
9:02
had
9:02
nothing
9:02
but
9:02
great
9:03
experiences
9:03
in
9:04
Nashville.
9:04
Sounds
9:05
good.
9:05
I
9:05
think
9:05
we'll
9:06
look
9:06
forward
9:06
to
9:06
that
9:06
trip
9:08
this
9:08
spring
9:08
then.
9:09
Now
9:09
getting
9:10
hit
9:10
by
9:10
pitches.
9:11
Mark,
9:13
you
9:13
led
9:13
Oakland
9:14
when
9:15
you
9:15
came
9:15
here.
9:15
You
9:15
had
9:16
a
9:16
propensity,
9:17
we'll
9:17
call
9:17
it,
9:17
to
9:17
get
9:18
hit
9:18
by
9:18
pitches.
9:19
Talk
9:19
about
9:20
getting
9:21
HPP
9:23
and
9:24
how
9:24
you
9:25
more
9:25
or
9:25
less
9:26
came
9:27
to
9:28
be
9:28
a
9:29
part
9:29
of
9:29
your
9:29
game.
9:31
Yeah.
9:34
I
9:34
always
9:35
talk
9:35
about
9:35
this
9:36
2018.
9:37
I
9:37
made
9:37
sort
9:38
of
9:40
a
9:40
big
9:40
adjustment
9:41
in
9:41
how
9:41
I
9:42
went
9:42
about
9:42
the
9:42
game.
9:43
And
9:43
I
9:43
think
9:43
a
9:43
big
9:44
part
9:44
of
9:44
that
9:44
was
9:46
I
9:46
started
9:47
playing
9:47
a
9:48
little
9:48
bit
9:48
of
9:48
center
9:48
field
9:50
and
9:51
just
9:51
watching
9:52
from
9:52
center
9:52
Field.
9:52
I
9:53
learned
9:53
so
9:53
much
9:53
about
9:54
hitting
9:54
actually,
9:55
just
9:55
because
9:56
watching
9:56
pitch
9:57
after
9:57
pitch
9:57
go
9:57
by
9:58
and
9:58
watching
9:58
these
9:58
hitters
10:00
and
10:00
just
10:00
seeing
10:01
kind
10:01
of
10:01
how
10:02
things
10:02
were
10:02
going.
10:03
And
10:04
what
10:04
I
10:04
learned
10:05
was
10:05
basically
10:05
that
10:06
not
10:06
that
10:06
many
10:07
people
10:08
do
10:08
a
10:08
whole
10:08
lot
10:09
of
10:09
damage
10:09
with
10:09
fastballs
10:10
that
10:10
are
10:10
on
10:10
the
10:10
inner
10:11
half
10:11
of
10:11
the
10:11
plate.
10:13
So
10:14
I
10:14
kind
10:14
of
10:14
decided,
10:15
well,
10:15
if
10:16
nobody's
10:16
going
10:16
to
10:16
hit
10:16
this
10:17
pitch,
10:17
why
10:17
am
10:17
I
10:18
better
10:18
than
10:18
everybody
10:19
else?
10:19
And
10:19
I'm
10:19
all
10:19
of
10:19
a
10:20
sudden
10:20
going
10:20
to
10:20
hit
10:20
it
10:21
when
10:21
nobody
10:21
else
10:21
can.
10:22
And
10:23
so
10:23
I
10:23
just
10:23
said,
10:23
well,
10:24
I'm
10:24
going
10:24
to
10:24
let
10:24
it
10:24
hit
10:24
me
10:24
then.
10:26
And
10:26
so
10:27
I
10:27
got
10:27
on
10:28
the
10:28
plate
10:28
and
10:30
I
10:30
looked
10:30
out
10:30
over
10:31
and
10:31
anything
10:32
that
10:32
came
10:32
close
10:32
to
10:33
me,
10:33
I
10:33
tried
10:33
to
10:33
let
10:33
it
10:33
hit
10:34
me
10:34
or
10:34
I
10:35
try
10:35
and
10:35
hit
10:35
it
10:35
out
10:36
of
10:36
the
10:36
ballpark
10:36
and,
10:37
you
10:38
know,
10:38
salad
10:39
off
10:39
usually
10:39
most
10:40
of
10:40
the
10:40
time.
10:40
But
10:41
yeah,
10:41
but
10:42
it
10:42
did
10:42
a
10:42
lot
10:42
of
10:42
things
10:43
for
10:43
me.
10:43
It
10:43
made,
10:44
it
10:44
kind
10:45
of
10:45
made
10:46
me.
10:46
Gave
10:47
me
10:47
good
10:47
strike
10:47
zone
10:48
discipline
10:48
because
10:48
I
10:49
was
10:49
really.
10:49
I
10:50
had
10:50
an
10:50
actual
10:51
approach
10:51
and
10:52
I
10:52
was
10:52
looking
10:52
for
10:52
something
10:52
very
10:53
specific.
10:53
And
10:55
it
10:56
helped
10:56
my
10:56
own
10:56
base
10:57
percentage
10:57
a
10:57
lot.
10:57
It
10:58
helped
10:58
me
10:58
be
10:58
more
10:59
selective
10:59
because
10:59
I
11:00
was
11:00
basically
11:00
only
11:00
looking
11:01
for
11:01
pitches
11:01
out
11:02
over
11:02
the
11:02
plate,
11:02
like
11:03
on
11:03
the
11:03
outer
11:03
half
11:05
and
11:06
the
11:06
hip.
11:06
I
11:06
pitches
11:07
just,
11:07
you
11:08
know,
11:08
they
11:09
started
11:09
piling
11:09
up
11:10
with
11:10
me
11:10
getting
11:10
on
11:10
top
11:11
of
11:11
the
11:11
plate.
11:11
So
11:14
it
11:14
ended
11:14
up
11:15
being
11:15
a
11:15
great
11:16
adjustment
11:16
for
11:16
a
11:17
long
11:17
time.
11:17
And
11:18
it
11:18
worked
11:18
for
11:18
a
11:18
long
11:18
time
11:19
until
11:19
it
11:20
didn't.
11:20
Yeah,
11:21
very
11:21
interesting.
11:22
Mark,
11:23
you
11:23
talk
11:23
about
11:24
being
11:24
in
11:24
center
11:24
field,
11:25
you
11:25
got
11:26
a
11:26
whole
11:26
different
11:26
view
11:26
of
11:27
the
11:27
game.
11:29
Real
11:30
interesting.
11:31
Yeah,
11:31
that
11:32
was
11:32
probably
11:32
the
11:33
best
11:34
learning
11:34
experience
11:35
I
11:35
ever
11:35
had.
11:36
About
11:36
my
11:37
best
11:37
teacher
11:37
of
11:38
hitting
11:38
was
11:39
playing
11:39
center
11:40
field.
11:40
Yeah,
11:41
that's
11:42
great.
11:42
Now,
11:43
you
11:43
signed
11:44
with
11:44
the
11:44
Mets,
11:45
you
11:45
said
11:46
you
11:46
were
11:46
ready
11:46
for
11:46
the
11:46
big
11:47
stage
11:47
and
11:47
New
11:48
York,
11:48
certainly
11:48
a
11:49
big
11:49
stage.
11:50
Tell
11:50
us
11:50
more
11:50
about
11:51
your
11:51
signing
11:51
with
11:51
the
11:52
Mets.
11:54
Yeah,
11:57
I
11:57
think
11:57
at
11:58
the
11:58
time,
11:59
you
11:59
know,
11:59
I
11:59
was
12:00
doing
12:00
the
12:00
whole
12:00
hit
12:00
by
12:01
pitches
12:01
thing
12:01
and
12:02
I
12:02
was
12:02
hitting
12:03
some
12:03
home
12:03
runs
12:03
and
12:04
doing
12:04
pretty
12:05
well
12:05
in
12:05
Oakland.
12:06
And
12:07
going
12:08
into
12:08
that
12:09
off
12:09
season
12:09
of
12:10
my
12:10
first
12:12
off
12:12
season
12:12
of
12:12
free
12:13
agency,
12:13
it
12:13
was
12:13
just
12:15
I
12:15
was
12:16
the
12:16
player
12:17
on
12:17
the
12:17
board
12:17
that
12:18
I
12:18
think
12:18
you
12:18
could
12:18
circle
12:19
and
12:19
say,
12:19
well,
12:20
this
12:20
is
12:20
a
12:20
guy
12:21
with
12:21
a
12:21
very,
12:24
a
12:24
very
12:25
obvious
12:25
skill
12:26
set
12:26
that
12:27
kind
12:27
of
12:27
jumps
12:27
out
12:27
at
12:28
you
12:28
and
12:28
a
12:28
very
12:28
unique
12:29
player
12:29
with
12:29
a
12:29
skill
12:30
set
12:30
that
12:30
not
12:30
that
12:31
many
12:31
people
12:31
had.
12:32
So
12:35
it
12:35
was.
12:36
There
12:36
were
12:36
a
12:36
lot
12:36
of
12:37
people
12:37
very
12:37
interested
12:38
and
12:39
the
12:40
Mets
12:40
were
12:41
at
12:41
the
12:41
time
12:42
were
12:42
looking
12:43
to
12:43
kind
12:43
of
12:44
start,
12:44
build
12:44
something
12:44
new.
12:46
Mr.
12:46
Cohen
12:47
was
12:47
new
12:47
in
12:48
town.
12:48
I
12:48
think
12:48
it
12:48
was
12:49
his.
12:50
Going
12:50
to
12:50
be
12:50
his
12:50
second
12:51
year,
12:51
if
12:51
I'm
12:51
not
12:51
mistaken,
12:53
owning
12:54
the
12:54
team.
12:55
And
12:55
he
12:56
wanted
12:56
to
12:56
make
12:56
a
12:57
big
12:57
splash.
12:57
And
12:59
Billy
13:00
Eppler
13:00
was
13:00
the
13:00
GM
13:01
at
13:01
the
13:01
time,
13:01
or
13:02
the
13:02
president
13:02
of
13:02
baseball
13:03
operations,
13:04
however
13:04
you
13:04
want
13:05
to
13:05
call
13:05
it.
13:07
But
13:07
he
13:08
had
13:08
seen
13:08
a
13:08
lot
13:08
of
13:08
me,
13:09
and
13:10
I
13:10
guess
13:10
I
13:10
was
13:11
kind
13:11
of
13:11
a
13:11
thorn
13:11
in
13:11
his
13:12
side
13:12
during
13:12
my
13:13
time
13:13
in
13:13
Oakland
13:13
when
13:14
he
13:14
was
13:14
in.
13:15
In
13:16
Anaheim.
13:16
And,
13:18
yeah,
13:18
he
13:19
was
13:19
just
13:19
pretty
13:19
aggressive,
13:20
as
13:20
you
13:20
know,
13:20
and
13:21
as
13:22
it
13:22
goes.
13:22
And
13:24
I
13:25
was
13:25
part
13:26
of
13:26
that
13:26
thing.
13:26
It
13:26
was
13:27
just.
13:27
It
13:27
was
13:28
surreal.
13:28
It
13:28
was
13:29
like
13:29
Scherzer
13:30
and
13:30
Starling
13:31
Marte
13:31
and
13:31
Eduardo
13:32
Escobar
13:32
and
13:33
me
13:33
thrown
13:33
in
13:34
there,
13:34
and
13:34
it
13:34
was
13:34
just.
13:36
It
13:36
was
13:36
pretty
13:36
cool.
13:37
It
13:38
was
13:38
very
13:38
exciting,
13:38
and
13:39
I
13:40
loved
13:40
every
13:40
minute
13:41
of
13:41
it.
13:41
Yeah.
13:41
As
13:41
you
13:42
say,
13:43
Cohen
13:43
was
13:44
looking
13:44
to
13:44
build
13:44
something,
13:45
and
13:45
you
13:45
had
13:45
a
13:46
pretty
13:46
big
13:46
upside
13:47
there,
13:48
as
13:48
you
13:48
said,
13:48
by
13:48
your
13:49
experience
13:49
in
13:49
Oakland,
13:50
and
13:51
they
13:52
brought
13:52
you
13:52
aboard.
13:53
Now,
13:54
I
13:54
gotta
13:54
ask
13:55
you,
13:55
Mark,
13:55
you've
13:56
played
13:56
with
13:56
these
13:56
guys.
13:57
How
13:58
do
13:58
you
13:58
feel
13:58
about
13:58
what's
13:59
going
13:59
on
13:59
these
14:00
days
14:00
with.
14:01
What
14:01
do
14:01
you
14:01
want
14:01
to
14:02
call
14:02
it?
14:02
You
14:02
want
14:02
to
14:02
call
14:02
it
14:03
a
14:03
rebuild?
14:04
You
14:04
want
14:05
to
14:05
call
14:05
it
14:05
a
14:05
breakdown
14:06
of
14:06
the
14:06
corps?
14:07
What
14:07
did
14:08
you
14:08
think
14:08
when
14:08
you
14:08
heard
14:09
the
14:09
news
14:09
about
14:11
Brandon
14:11
Nimmo
14:12
and
14:12
Pete
14:13
Alonso
14:13
and
14:16
Edwin
14:17
Diaz?
14:18
What
14:18
went
14:18
through
14:19
your
14:19
mind?
14:19
Yeah,
14:20
I
14:20
mean,
14:23
I
14:23
kind
14:23
of
14:24
feel
14:24
like
14:25
my
14:25
wife
14:25
and
14:25
I
14:26
love
14:26
to
14:26
talk
14:26
about
14:26
the
14:27
Mets
14:27
just
14:27
because
14:27
it's
14:28
so
14:30
entertaining,
14:30
and
14:31
New
14:31
York
14:32
Sports
14:32
is
14:32
just
14:33
so
14:34
under
14:34
the
14:34
microscope,
14:35
and
14:36
it's
14:36
fun.
14:37
It's
14:37
like
14:37
a
14:37
soap
14:37
opera,
14:38
you
14:38
know,
14:38
it's
14:38
just,
14:39
like,
14:39
always
14:42
so
14:42
dramatic
14:42
and
14:43
so.
14:44
And
14:44
it's
14:44
fun
14:44
to
14:45
talk
14:45
about
14:45
it,
14:45
and
14:45
so,
14:46
you
14:46
know,
14:46
it's
14:47
more
14:47
fun
14:47
than
14:48
talking
14:48
about
14:48
the
14:49
Kansas
14:49
City
14:49
Royals
14:50
and
14:50
what
14:50
they're
14:50
doing,
14:50
you
14:50
know,
14:51
so
14:52
Mr.
14:53
Cohen's
14:53
a
14:53
fun
14:54
guy,
14:54
and
14:54
he's
14:54
always
14:55
making
14:55
it,
14:55
you
14:56
know.
14:56
You
14:56
know,
14:56
he
14:56
wants
14:57
to
14:57
win,
14:57
and,
14:57
you
14:57
know,
14:58
he
14:58
wants
14:58
to
14:58
put
14:59
a
14:59
product
14:59
out
14:59
there,
14:59
and
15:00
he
15:00
really
15:00
cares.
15:01
And
15:02
so
15:04
I
15:04
just.
15:04
I
15:04
feel
15:04
like
15:05
I
15:05
kind
15:05
of
15:05
called
15:05
it
15:05
with
15:06
my
15:06
wife.
15:06
I
15:06
was
15:07
just
15:07
like,
15:07
I
15:07
think
15:08
the
15:08
Mets,
15:09
as
15:09
much
15:09
as
15:09
I
15:09
love
15:10
Pete
15:10
and
15:10
I
15:10
love
15:11
Brandon
15:11
Nimmo
15:11
and
15:12
I
15:12
love
15:12
Sugar,
15:13
like,
15:14
I
15:15
feel
15:15
like
15:16
it
15:16
was
15:16
just,
15:16
like,
15:17
time
15:17
to
15:18
turn
15:18
the
15:19
page
15:19
on
15:19
that
15:20
chapter.
15:20
And
15:22
it's
15:22
unfortunate,
15:23
but
15:23
everything,
15:24
I
15:24
think,
15:24
has
15:24
to.
15:25
Everything
15:25
ends
15:25
at
15:26
some
15:26
point.
15:26
And,
15:28
you
15:29
know,
15:29
they
15:29
weren't.
15:30
They
15:30
didn't
15:30
win
15:31
it
15:31
with
15:31
that
15:32
group.
15:32
And
15:33
something.
15:33
It
15:33
feels
15:34
like
15:34
something
15:34
had
15:34
to
15:34
change.
15:35
And.
15:37
Yeah,
15:38
I
15:38
mean,
15:39
it's
15:39
weird.
15:40
You
15:40
know,
15:40
you'd
15:41
think
15:42
any
15:42
team
15:43
who
15:43
has
15:43
Brandon
15:44
Nimmo
15:44
on
15:44
it
15:44
is.
15:45
Brandon
15:45
Nimmo
15:46
is
15:46
going
15:46
to
15:46
make
15:46
that
15:46
team
15:47
better.
15:47
Any
15:47
team
15:47
that
15:48
has
15:48
Pete
15:48
Alonso
15:49
on
15:49
it,
15:49
Pete
15:49
Alonso
15:49
is
15:50
going
15:50
to
15:50
make
15:50
that
15:50
Team
15:50
better.
15:51
They're
15:52
such
15:52
talented
15:53
players.
15:54
And
15:55
same
15:56
with
15:56
Edwin
15:56
Diaz.
15:57
Like
15:57
that
15:57
guy's
15:58
going
15:58
to
15:58
make
15:58
your
15:59
team
15:59
better.
15:59
Obviously
16:00
the
16:00
Dodgers
16:00
went
16:01
and
16:01
scooped
16:01
him
16:01
up
16:01
and
16:01
all
16:02
these.
16:03
They're
16:04
just
16:04
highly
16:04
sought
16:05
after
16:05
guys.
16:05
But
16:06
for
16:06
some
16:06
reason
16:07
it
16:08
didn't
16:08
work.
16:08
And
16:09
so
16:09
I
16:09
think
16:09
you,
16:09
I
16:10
think
16:10
at
16:10
some
16:10
point
16:11
your
16:11
hand
16:11
just
16:11
gets
16:12
forced
16:12
and
16:12
you
16:12
have
16:12
to
16:13
go
16:13
in
16:13
a
16:13
different
16:13
direction.
16:14
Interesting
16:15
points
16:16
all
16:16
there,
16:16
Mark.
16:17
I
16:17
mean,
16:17
as
16:18
you
16:18
said,
16:18
you
16:18
know
16:18
these
16:19
guys,
16:19
you
16:19
played
16:20
alongside
16:20
these
16:21
guys.
16:21
You're
16:22
looking
16:22
in
16:22
from
16:22
the
16:23
outside
16:23
now.
16:24
But
16:25
the
16:25
fans,
16:25
you
16:25
know,
16:26
the
16:26
fans
16:26
are
16:26
serious
16:27
here,
16:27
Mark.
16:28
And
16:28
the
16:29
fans
16:29
are
16:29
serious.
16:30
And
16:30
Mr.
16:30
Cohen's.
16:31
And
16:31
Mr.
16:32
Cohen
16:32
wants
16:32
to
16:33
win.
16:34
We
16:34
hope
16:34
so.
16:35
It's
16:35
this
16:35
high
16:35
stake.
16:36
We
16:36
hope
16:37
so.
16:37
I
16:37
mean,
16:39
my
16:39
viewpoint
16:40
personally
16:40
is
16:40
he's
16:41
got
16:41
his
16:41
casino
16:42
now,
16:43
his
16:43
old
16:44
toy
16:44
is
16:44
broken
16:45
and
16:45
just
16:45
let
16:45
it
16:46
sit
16:46
there.
16:46
I
16:46
mean,
16:47
I'm
16:47
kind
16:48
of
16:48
upset
16:48
by
16:48
it,
16:49
by
16:49
all
16:49
of
16:49
it.
16:49
But
16:51
as
16:51
he
16:51
said,
16:52
the
16:52
off
16:52
season
16:53
is
16:53
not
16:53
over
16:53
with.
16:54
We
16:54
got
16:54
a
16:54
lot
16:54
of
16:55
time
16:55
to
16:55
try
16:55
to
16:56
improve
16:56
the
16:56
ball
16:57
club.
16:57
So
16:57
I
16:58
think
16:58
we'll
16:58
just
16:58
have
16:58
to
16:59
wait
16:59
and
16:59
see.
17:01
Yeah,
17:01
yeah.
17:02
I
17:02
think
17:05
if.
17:06
I
17:06
think
17:06
I
17:07
would
17:07
expect
17:08
a
17:08
more
17:09
pitching
17:10
centric,
17:10
kind
17:11
of
17:11
focused
17:11
off
17:11
season
17:12
to
17:13
unfold.
17:16
I
17:16
think
17:16
that's
17:16
the
17:16
only
17:17
way
17:17
forward.
17:17
I
17:17
mean,
17:17
you
17:18
had
17:18
the
17:19
best
17:19
bats.
17:19
You
17:20
know,
17:20
like
17:22
it's
17:22
the
17:23
offense.
17:24
It
17:25
was
17:25
as
17:25
good
17:25
of
17:26
a
17:26
Ross
17:26
lineup
17:27
as
17:27
you
17:27
could
17:27
put
17:27
together
17:28
and
17:29
it
17:29
didn't
17:30
work.
17:30
So
17:30
I
17:31
think
17:31
you
17:31
got
17:31
to
17:31
go
17:32
pitching
17:32
and
17:34
see
17:35
what
17:35
happens.
17:35
And
17:36
defense,
17:36
that's
17:37
what
17:37
I
17:37
think.
17:37
That's
17:37
what
17:37
Stearns
17:38
is
17:38
emphasizing.
17:39
Yep.
17:39
Okay.
17:40
We'll
17:40
see
17:40
what
17:40
happens.
17:41
A
17:41
topic
17:42
that
17:42
I
17:42
have
17:42
to
17:43
ask
17:43
you
17:43
about,
17:43
Mark,
17:44
before
17:44
we
17:44
get
17:44
to
17:44
food
17:45
is
17:46
pine
17:46
tar.
17:47
Pine
17:48
tar
17:48
on
17:48
the
17:48
batting
17:49
helmet.
17:49
Now,
17:50
I'm
17:50
not
17:50
sure
17:50
how
17:51
you
17:51
worked
17:51
it
17:51
here
17:52
with
17:52
the
17:52
Mets.
17:53
You
17:54
let
17:54
the
17:54
tar
17:54
build
17:55
up
17:55
on
17:55
the
17:55
helmet.
17:56
I
17:56
have
17:57
one
17:57
of
17:57
these
17:57
helmets
17:58
I
17:58
got
17:58
off
17:58
an
17:59
MLB
18:00
online
18:00
auction
18:01
and
18:01
I
18:01
try
18:01
to
18:02
handle
18:02
it
18:02
very
18:02
gingerly
18:03
so
18:03
I
18:03
don't
18:04
upset
18:04
the
18:04
pine
18:04
tar.
18:06
How
18:07
often
18:07
do
18:07
they
18:08
let
18:08
you
18:08
change
18:08
your
18:09
helmet
18:09
or
18:09
does
18:10
the
18:10
clubby
18:10
say
18:11
you
18:11
need
18:11
a
18:11
new
18:11
one
18:12
or
18:12
they'll
18:12
clean
18:12
it
18:13
for
18:13
you?
18:14
Why
18:14
did
18:14
you
18:14
prefer
18:15
to
18:15
have
18:15
the
18:15
pine
18:16
tar
18:16
on
18:16
your
18:16
helmet?
18:20
For
18:21
me
18:21
it
18:21
was
18:21
because
18:22
one,
18:22
because
18:23
I
18:24
always
18:24
just
18:24
like
18:25
the
18:25
look
18:25
of
18:26
it.
18:27
I
18:27
think
18:27
I
18:27
have
18:28
to
18:28
admit
18:30
Marvin
18:30
Barnard
18:31
was
18:31
a
18:31
leadoff
18:31
hitter
18:32
for
18:32
the
18:32
giants
18:33
in
18:33
the
18:33
90s
18:34
that
18:34
I
18:35
loved
18:35
to
18:35
watch.
18:36
Center
18:37
fielder,
18:38
left
18:38
handed
18:38
hitter.
18:41
And
18:41
he
18:42
had
18:42
it
18:42
like
18:43
caked
18:43
on
18:43
like
18:44
crazy.
18:44
And
18:45
I
18:45
never
18:45
had
18:46
it
18:46
on
18:46
quite
18:47
that
18:47
heavy.
18:49
And
18:50
then
18:50
I
18:50
also
18:50
like
18:50
that
18:51
I
18:51
just
18:52
had
18:52
something
18:53
Sticky
18:53
that
18:53
I
18:54
could
18:54
go
18:54
to
18:54
real
18:54
quick
18:56
if
18:56
I
18:56
needed
18:57
it.
18:57
So
18:58
I
18:58
didn't
18:58
like
18:59
to
18:59
put
18:59
the
18:59
pine
19:00
tar
19:00
directly
19:01
on
19:01
my
19:01
bat
19:02
because
19:03
I
19:03
didn't
19:03
want
19:03
it
19:03
to
19:05
change
19:06
the
19:06
weight
19:06
or,
19:07
you
19:07
know,
19:07
you
19:08
put
19:08
pine
19:08
tar
19:08
on,
19:09
then
19:09
you
19:09
add
19:09
more,
19:09
then
19:09
you
19:10
add
19:10
more,
19:10
and
19:10
all
19:10
of
19:10
a
19:11
sudden
19:11
the
19:11
bat
19:11
feels
19:12
different.
19:12
The
19:13
grip
19:13
is
19:13
not.
19:14
It's
19:14
not
19:14
always
19:15
consistent.
19:15
I
19:16
just
19:16
felt
19:16
like
19:17
I
19:17
wanted
19:18
to
19:18
grab
19:19
a
19:19
little
19:19
bit
19:19
off
19:20
my
19:20
helmet
19:20
when
19:20
I
19:20
needed
19:21
some.
19:21
Gotcha.
19:22
All
19:22
right,
19:22
good.
19:24
Yeah,
19:24
it
19:25
probably
19:25
doesn't,
19:26
but.
19:26
No,
19:27
it
19:27
did
19:27
to
19:27
me.
19:28
Yeah,
19:28
no,
19:29
I
19:30
see
19:30
where
19:30
you
19:31
went
19:31
there
19:32
now.
19:32
Yeah,
19:33
the
19:34
food.
19:34
What's
19:35
a
19:35
foodie
19:35
now
19:35
tell
19:36
us
19:36
what
19:36
your
19:36
definition
19:37
of
19:37
a
19:37
foodie
19:38
is.
19:40
A
19:41
food
19:41
is
19:42
someone
19:42
who
19:45
appreciates
19:46
food
19:46
to
19:47
the
19:47
point
19:47
where
19:51
I
19:51
would
19:51
say
19:52
it's
19:52
someone
19:52
who
19:52
obsesses
19:53
about
19:53
food
19:54
on
19:54
a
19:54
regular
19:55
basis.
19:55
Okay.
19:57
Yeah.
19:57
Like,
19:58
I'm
19:59
up
19:59
at
19:59
night
20:02
thinking
20:02
about
20:03
what
20:03
I
20:03
want
20:03
to
20:04
cook
20:04
the
20:05
next
20:05
day
20:05
or
20:05
what
20:06
restaurant
20:06
I
20:07
want
20:07
to
20:07
go
20:07
to
20:08
or
20:09
what
20:09
I
20:10
want
20:10
to
20:10
try
20:11
next.
20:12
So
20:13
that's
20:14
been
20:14
something.
20:14
I've
20:15
been
20:15
doing
20:15
a
20:15
lot
20:15
of
20:15
cooking
20:16
this
20:16
off
20:16
season,
20:16
and
20:17
it's
20:18
just
20:20
become
20:20
a
20:20
passion
20:21
of
20:21
mine,
20:21
and
20:21
I
20:21
just
20:22
love
20:22
it.
20:22
And
20:24
I'm
20:24
making
20:25
new
20:25
stuff
20:25
all
20:26
the
20:26
time,
20:26
and
20:26
it's
20:26
just
20:26
a
20:27
lot
20:27
of
20:27
fun
20:27
for
20:27
me.
20:28
Yeah,
20:28
that's
20:28
interesting.
20:29
Everybody's
20:30
got
20:30
something,
20:31
so
20:32
you
20:32
might
20:32
as
20:32
well
20:33
have
20:33
food
20:33
now.
20:34
What
20:35
are
20:35
your
20:35
favorites
20:36
right
20:36
now
20:37
as
20:37
far
20:37
as
20:38
food
20:38
goes?
20:40
Oh,
20:40
man,
20:41
I'm
20:42
eating
20:42
a
20:42
lot
20:42
of
20:42
fish
20:43
this
20:43
off
20:43
season.
20:44
I've
20:44
been
20:44
smoking,
20:46
using
20:46
my
20:47
smoker
20:47
a
20:47
lot,
20:48
so
20:48
I'm
20:48
kind
20:49
of
20:50
in
20:50
a
20:51
big
20:51
time.
20:52
Like,
20:53
it's
20:53
ironic
20:54
because
20:54
I
20:54
live
20:54
in
20:54
the
20:54
desert,
20:55
but
20:56
I've
20:56
been
20:57
smoking
20:57
a
20:57
lot
20:58
of
20:58
trout,
20:59
smoking
21:00
some
21:01
wild
21:01
caught
21:01
salmon.
21:04
I'm
21:04
into
21:04
tinned
21:05
fish
21:05
just
21:06
as
21:06
much,
21:06
so
21:06
I
21:07
eat
21:07
a
21:07
lot
21:07
of
21:07
sardines
21:09
and
21:09
a
21:09
lot
21:10
of
21:11
tinned
21:12
varieties
21:13
of
21:13
fish
21:17
and
21:17
just
21:18
messing
21:18
with
21:18
a
21:19
lot
21:19
of
21:19
different,
21:19
like,
21:20
techniques.
21:20
And
21:20
I'm,
21:21
you
21:21
know,
21:22
taking
21:22
out
21:23
all
21:23
the
21:23
stuff
21:23
in
21:24
the
21:24
kitchen
21:24
and
21:25
just
21:25
playing,
21:26
you
21:26
know,
21:26
just
21:27
playing
21:27
in
21:27
the
21:27
kitchen
21:28
and
21:28
having
21:28
fun
21:29
with
21:29
it.
21:29
So,
21:31
yeah,
21:32
I
21:32
just
21:33
really,
21:34
you
21:34
know,
21:34
it's
21:34
kind
21:35
of
21:35
fun
21:36
for
21:36
me
21:36
to
21:36
cook,
21:36
but
21:37
it's
21:37
turning
21:38
into
21:38
sort
21:38
of
21:39
an
21:39
obsession
21:39
lately.
21:41
That's
21:41
all.
21:41
Right
21:42
now,
21:43
how
21:43
do
21:43
you
21:43
decide,
21:44
Mark,
21:46
what
21:46
you're
21:47
going
21:47
to
21:47
try
21:47
next?
21:48
Do
21:48
you
21:48
have
21:48
any
21:49
sources
21:49
or
21:50
anybody
21:50
you
21:50
read
21:51
online?
21:52
Yeah,
21:53
yeah.
21:54
I
21:54
mean,
21:54
I
21:55
have
21:55
a
21:56
few
21:56
guys
21:57
on
21:57
Instagram
21:57
that
21:58
I
21:58
follow,
21:58
some
21:59
chefs.
22:04
I'm
22:04
blanking
22:04
on
22:05
their
22:05
names.
22:06
There's
22:06
a
22:06
lot
22:06
of
22:06
cookbooks
22:07
I
22:07
like
22:07
to
22:08
read,
22:08
though.
22:09
Lately
22:09
we've
22:09
been
22:10
Cooking
22:10
out
22:10
of.
22:11
Our
22:12
friend
22:12
from
22:12
New
22:13
York
22:13
is
22:13
a
22:13
chef,
22:14
Alison
22:14
Roman.
22:17
She's
22:17
a
22:17
great
22:18
chef
22:19
in
22:19
New
22:19
York,
22:19
and
22:20
she
22:20
has
22:20
some
22:20
great
22:20
cookbooks.
22:21
She
22:21
just
22:21
came
22:22
out
22:22
with
22:22
a
22:22
new
22:22
one,
22:22
but
22:23
I'm
22:23
always
22:23
going
22:24
through
22:25
all
22:25
of
22:25
her
22:26
cookbooks.
22:26
We
22:26
have
22:26
all
22:27
of
22:27
hers.
22:27
And
22:27
then
22:29
another
22:30
person
22:31
whose
22:31
cookbooks
22:32
we
22:32
like
22:32
to
22:32
follow
22:33
is
22:34
Samin
22:35
Nosrat.
22:39
She
22:39
was
22:40
a
22:41
chef
22:41
at
22:42
Chez
22:43
Panisse
22:43
in
22:44
Berkeley
22:44
under
22:45
Alice
22:45
Waters.
22:46
And
22:47
she
22:47
does
22:47
a
22:48
lot
22:48
of
22:48
really
22:48
cool
22:48
stuff.
22:49
So
22:50
it's
22:51
different
22:51
styles
22:52
and
22:54
all
22:54
different
22:54
kind
22:54
of
22:54
styles
22:55
of
22:55
cooking.
22:55
But
22:55
that's
22:56
what's
22:56
interesting
22:56
to
22:57
me,
22:57
too.
22:57
Like,
22:57
Allison
22:58
has
22:58
a
22:58
different
22:58
style
22:59
than
22:59
Saming,
23:00
and.
23:01
And
23:02
it's
23:02
just
23:03
kind
23:03
of
23:03
fun
23:03
to,
23:04
like,
23:04
see
23:04
what
23:05
people
23:05
are
23:05
doing
23:06
now.
23:06
You
23:06
must
23:06
have
23:07
had
23:07
a
23:07
great
23:07
time
23:07
on
23:08
the
23:08
road.
23:08
I
23:08
mean,
23:09
going
23:10
to
23:10
different
23:10
places
23:11
in
23:11
different
23:11
cities.
23:13
Where
23:14
did
23:14
you
23:14
enjoy
23:14
going
23:15
on
23:15
the
23:15
road,
23:15
Mark?
23:16
Maybe
23:16
you
23:16
brought
23:16
the
23:17
guys
23:17
with
23:17
you
23:17
for
23:18
a
23:18
little
23:18
meal.
23:23
I
23:23
mean,
23:24
going
23:24
to
23:24
New
23:25
York
23:25
is
23:25
always
23:25
fun.
23:29
New
23:29
York,
23:29
I
23:30
mean,
23:30
it's
23:30
just
23:30
the
23:31
big
23:31
cities
23:31
for
23:31
me
23:32
most
23:33
of
23:33
the
23:33
time.
23:33
I
23:33
mean,
23:33
there's
23:34
great
23:34
food
23:34
everywhere,
23:36
but
23:36
it's
23:36
New
23:36
York,
23:37
Miami,
23:39
Seattle,
23:40
San
23:41
Francisco,
23:43
Louisiana.
23:44
Those
23:45
will
23:45
always
23:45
kind
23:46
of
23:46
be
23:46
my
23:46
favorites.
23:48
I
23:48
kind
23:48
of
23:48
have
23:49
a
23:49
bias
23:49
towards
23:50
the
23:51
west
23:51
coast,
23:51
but,
23:52
I
23:52
mean,
23:53
you
23:53
can't.
23:53
New
23:54
York
23:54
just.
23:54
The
23:55
numbers
23:56
just
23:56
wins
23:57
on
23:57
how
23:57
many,
23:57
like,
23:57
gray
23:58
restaurants
23:58
there
23:59
are.
24:00
But
24:00
I
24:01
have
24:01
a
24:01
bias
24:01
towards
24:02
San
24:03
Francisco.
24:04
I
24:04
just.
24:05
Growing
24:05
up
24:05
there
24:05
and
24:06
living
24:06
there
24:06
for
24:06
six
24:07
years.
24:09
Yeah.
24:10
Would
24:11
you
24:11
ever
24:11
go
24:11
to
24:11
McDonald's?
24:16
No.
24:18
Okay.
24:19
Yeah.
24:19
I
24:19
gotta
24:20
ask.
24:20
I
24:20
mean,
24:21
never
24:21
say
24:22
never.
24:22
It
24:22
depends
24:23
where
24:23
you
24:23
are.
24:25
But
24:25
no,
24:26
it's
24:26
not
24:27
my
24:27
favorite.
24:27
No,
24:28
I
24:28
understood.
24:29
Not
24:30
with
24:30
what
24:31
you
24:31
cook
24:31
and
24:31
what
24:31
you've
24:32
got
24:32
lined
24:32
up.
24:33
How
24:33
about.
24:33
We
24:34
just
24:34
got
24:34
back
24:35
from
24:35
Chicago
24:36
in
24:36
September
24:37
to
24:37
catch
24:37
the
24:38
Met
24:38
series
24:38
out
24:39
there.
24:40
They're
24:40
known
24:41
for
24:41
their
24:41
pizza.
24:42
You
24:42
like
24:42
pizza?
24:44
I
24:44
love
24:44
pizza.
24:45
Where
24:45
would
24:46
you
24:46
go
24:46
in
24:46
Chicago
24:47
for
24:47
pizza?
24:52
I
24:52
think
24:52
we
24:52
just
24:53
go
24:53
to
24:53
Geno's
24:54
east,
24:55
usually
24:55
when
24:57
my
24:57
family
24:58
likes
24:58
to
24:58
go
24:58
to
24:58
Chicago.
24:59
So
24:59
my
25:00
girls.
25:00
My
25:01
kids
25:01
are
25:01
usually
25:01
with
25:02
me.
25:04
I
25:04
have
25:04
two
25:04
girls
25:05
and
25:05
my
25:05
wife
25:05
and
25:06
Genoze
25:07
is
25:07
right
25:08
by
25:08
the
25:08
hotel,
25:08
so
25:09
we
25:09
would
25:09
just
25:09
take
25:09
them
25:09
there
25:10
and
25:10
do
25:11
that.
25:11
I'm
25:12
not.
25:14
I
25:14
wouldn't
25:15
say
25:16
a
25:16
pizza.
25:17
I'm
25:17
not,
25:18
like,
25:18
snobby
25:19
about
25:19
pizza,
25:20
which
25:20
a
25:21
lot
25:21
of
25:21
people
25:21
are
25:22
from
25:22
New
25:22
York
25:23
and
25:23
Chicago
25:24
and
25:24
all
25:24
the
25:25
pizza
25:25
places.
25:25
You
25:26
know,
25:26
I
25:26
think.
25:26
I
25:26
think
25:28
pizza
25:28
is
25:29
not.
25:29
I
25:29
think
25:29
it's.
25:30
A
25:30
lot
25:30
of
25:30
pizza
25:31
is
25:31
really
25:31
good.
25:32
And
25:32
I
25:32
just.
25:34
It's
25:34
hard
25:34
for
25:35
me
25:35
to
25:35
do
25:36
a
25:36
deep
25:36
dive
25:36
into
25:37
all
25:37
the
25:37
pizza
25:38
places
25:38
in
25:38
New
25:38
York
25:39
because
25:39
There's
25:39
just
25:39
so
25:39
many.
25:40
And
25:43
do
25:43
another.
25:43
Trying
25:44
other
25:44
things,
25:44
too.
25:45
So
25:45
it's
25:45
like,
25:46
what
25:46
am
25:46
I
25:46
gonna
25:47
eat?
25:47
Nothing
25:47
but
25:47
pizza
25:48
for
25:48
a
25:48
whole
25:48
baseball
25:49
season?
25:49
Like,
25:49
I'm
25:49
not.
25:50
I'm
25:50
just
25:50
not
25:50
gonna
25:50
do
25:51
that.
25:51
No,
25:52
no.
25:52
Right.
25:53
But
25:53
don't
25:54
get
25:54
me
25:54
wrong.
25:54
I
25:54
mean,
25:55
New
25:55
York,
25:56
I
25:56
think,
25:56
is
25:56
the
25:56
best
25:57
pizza.
25:57
And
25:58
there
25:59
you
25:59
go.
25:59
That's.
25:59
I
26:00
mean,
26:00
it's
26:00
definitely.
26:01
That
26:01
was
26:02
made
26:02
clear.
26:02
And,
26:04
yeah,
26:05
I
26:05
think
26:05
the
26:06
best
26:06
pizza
26:06
I
26:07
ever
26:07
had
26:07
was
26:07
in
26:07
Tribeca,
26:08
and
26:08
I
26:08
don't
26:09
even
26:09
remember
26:09
the
26:09
name
26:09
of
26:09
the
26:09
place.
26:10
It
26:10
was
26:10
like
26:10
we
26:10
were.
26:11
We
26:11
were
26:12
walking
26:12
around
26:12
on
26:12
an
26:12
off
26:13
day,
26:13
and
26:13
we
26:13
stopped
26:14
into
26:14
this
26:14
hole
26:14
in
26:14
the
26:15
wall,
26:15
and
26:15
it
26:15
was
26:15
like,
26:17
the
26:17
best
26:17
pizza
26:18
I've
26:18
ever
26:18
tasted
26:18
in
26:18
my
26:18
life.
26:19
And
26:19
we
26:19
were
26:19
sitting
26:19
on
26:20
a.
26:20
Sitting
26:20
on
26:20
a
26:21
bench
26:21
and,
26:21
like,
26:22
a
26:23
little
26:23
park,
26:23
eating
26:24
it.
26:24
Yeah.
26:25
Well,
26:26
like
26:26
you
26:26
say,
26:26
you
26:26
never
26:27
know.
26:27
You
26:28
never
26:28
know
26:28
what
26:28
you're
26:28
gonna
26:29
bump
26:29
into,
26:29
especially
26:29
in
26:30
New
26:30
York.
26:32
Yeah.
26:32
What
26:32
do
26:32
you
26:33
have
26:33
lined
26:33
up
26:33
for
26:34
this
26:34
season,
26:35
Mark?
26:35
You
26:36
gonna
26:36
play
26:36
or
26:37
you
26:37
looking
26:37
to
26:38
play
26:38
or.
26:40
Yeah,
26:40
I'm
26:41
entertaining
26:41
it.
26:43
It'll
26:43
be
26:43
interesting
26:44
to
26:44
see.
26:45
It's
26:45
pretty
26:45
quiet
26:46
right
26:46
now
26:46
with
26:46
the
26:46
holidays.
26:47
It'll
26:47
be
26:47
interesting
26:48
to
26:48
see
26:49
what.
26:50
If
26:50
anything
26:50
comes
26:51
my
26:51
way.
26:52
I'm
26:52
just.
26:53
I'm
26:54
not
26:54
ruling
26:54
now.
26:55
I'm
26:55
considering
26:56
all
26:56
options.
26:57
I'm
26:58
thinking
26:58
about
26:58
retiring,
26:59
but
26:59
also,
27:01
if
27:01
something
27:01
comes
27:01
along
27:02
that
27:02
I
27:03
find
27:03
interesting,
27:04
I'm
27:04
not
27:04
gonna
27:05
rule
27:05
anything
27:06
out
27:06
at
27:06
this
27:06
point.
27:08
And
27:10
what
27:10
would
27:10
you
27:10
do
27:10
if
27:11
you
27:11
did
27:11
retire,
27:12
Mark?
27:12
Would
27:12
you
27:12
just
27:13
live
27:13
a
27:13
life
27:13
of
27:14
leisure
27:14
and
27:15
go
27:15
about
27:15
your
27:15
cooking?
27:16
And
27:17
what
27:17
would
27:17
you
27:17
do?
27:19
I
27:19
think
27:19
I
27:19
would.
27:20
I
27:20
think
27:20
I
27:20
would
27:20
mix
27:21
it
27:21
up.
27:21
I
27:21
think
27:21
it'd
27:21
be
27:22
a
27:22
little
27:22
bit
27:22
of
27:22
leisure,
27:22
a
27:23
little
27:23
bit
27:23
of
27:25
some
27:25
kind
27:26
of
27:26
work.
27:27
If
27:28
it's
27:28
in
27:28
the
27:28
food
27:30
arena,
27:31
that
27:31
would
27:31
be
27:31
really
27:32
cool.
27:32
And
27:35
kind
27:35
of
27:35
exploring
27:35
some
27:36
of
27:36
that
27:36
right
27:36
now
27:36
and
27:36
looking
27:37
into
27:37
some
27:37
of
27:37
that
27:38
and
27:38
what
27:38
I
27:38
could
27:38
do.
27:41
But,
27:42
yeah,
27:44
I'm
27:44
not
27:44
sure
27:45
is
27:45
the
27:45
short
27:45
answer
27:46
to
27:46
that
27:46
question,
27:48
but,
27:48
yeah,
27:48
I'd
27:49
love
27:49
to
27:49
travel
27:49
and
27:51
kind
27:51
of
27:51
make
27:51
up
27:52
for
27:52
lost
27:52
time
27:52
during
27:53
the
27:54
baseball
27:54
career
27:56
and
27:57
spend
27:57
a
27:57
lot
27:57
of
27:57
time
27:57
with
27:58
my
27:58
kids
27:58
and
28:00
not
28:00
work
28:00
too
28:00
much,
28:00
but
28:01
maybe
28:01
work
28:01
a
28:01
little
28:01
bit.
28:02
You
28:02
got
28:02
the
28:02
right
28:03
point
28:03
of
28:03
view,
28:03
Mark.
28:04
That's
28:04
for
28:04
sure.
28:05
Well,
28:05
Mark
28:06
Cannon,
28:06
it's
28:06
been
28:06
a
28:07
pleasure.
28:07
I
28:08
thank
28:08
you
28:08
for
28:08
taking
28:08
time
28:09
out
28:09
of
28:09
your
28:09
Sunday
28:10
night
28:10
to
28:10
spend
28:10
it
28:10
with
28:11
us
28:11
back
28:11
here
28:11
at
28:11
Sports
28:12
Talk
28:12
New
28:12
York.
28:13
I
28:13
wish
28:13
you,
28:14
Mark,
28:14
the
28:14
best
28:14
of
28:15
luck.
28:15
Happy
28:16
New
28:16
Year
28:16
to
28:16
you
28:16
and
28:17
the
28:17
family.
28:18
And
28:18
again,
28:18
thanks
28:19
for
28:19
being
28:19
with
28:19
us.
28:21
All
28:21
right.
28:21
Thanks,
28:21
Bill.
28:22
Appreciate
28:22
it.
28:23
That
28:23
is
28:23
Mark
28:24
Canna,
28:24
ladies
28:25
and
28:25
gentlemen,
28:25
up
28:25
Next
28:26
on
28:26
Sports
28:26
Talk
28:27
New
28:27
York,
28:27
we'll
28:27
welcome
28:28
in
28:28
one
28:28
of
28:28
the
28:28
Bailey
28:29
children
28:29
from
28:30
It's
28:30
a
28:30
Wonderful
28:30
Life,
28:31
Zuzu
28:32
Bailey
28:32
herself,
28:33
Carolyn
28:34
Grimes.
28:34
It's
28:35
our
28:35
holiday
28:36
show,
28:36
folks,
28:36
so
28:37
stick
28:37
around.
28:58
You
28:58
are
28:58
listening
28:58
to
28:59
sports
28:59
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28:59
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29:00
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29:00
Tune
29:01
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29:01
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29:01
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29:01
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29:01
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29:02
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29:02
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29:03
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29:10
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29:13
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29:14
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29:14
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29:14
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29:15
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29:16
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29:16
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29:17
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29:17
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29:18
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29:21
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29:21
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29:25
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29:25
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29:25
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29:26
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29:26
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29:26
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29:27
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29:27
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29:27
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29:28
island's
29:28
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29:30
And
29:30
now
29:31
back
29:32
to
29:32
the
29:32
show.
29:37
All
29:38
right.
29:38
We're
29:38
back
29:38
with
29:39
Sports
29:39
Talk
29:39
New
29:40
York
29:40
on
29:40
WGB
29:41
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29:42
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29:42
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29:43
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29:44
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29:44
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29:45
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29:45
Merrick,
29:46
Long
29:46
Island,
29:46
New
29:47
York,
29:47
usa.
29:49
As
29:49
I
29:49
said
29:49
earlier,
29:50
a
29:50
real
29:51
snowy,
29:51
wintry
29:52
weekend
29:53
here
29:53
on
29:53
Long
29:54
island,
29:55
and
29:55
we're
29:55
happy
29:56
to
29:56
have
29:56
you
29:56
with
29:56
us
29:57
on
29:57
this,
29:57
our
29:58
holiday
29:58
Spectacular
29:59
show
29:59
for
30:00
2025.
30:01
I
30:02
hope
30:02
you
30:02
all
30:02
had
30:03
a
30:03
wonderful
30:03
Christmas,
30:04
Hanukkah,
30:04
Kwanzaa,
30:05
whatever
30:06
you
30:06
celebrate,
30:06
I
30:07
hope
30:07
it
30:07
was
30:07
great.
30:08
And
30:09
we're
30:09
wishing
30:09
all
30:10
of
30:10
us
30:11
a
30:11
very
30:11
happy
30:11
new
30:12
Year.
30:12
Upcoming.
30:13
We'll
30:13
carry
30:14
on
30:14
now
30:14
with
30:14
a
30:14
very
30:15
special
30:15
guest.
30:16
Our
30:16
next
30:16
very
30:17
special
30:17
guest
30:18
has
30:18
appeared
30:18
in
30:19
some
30:19
great
30:19
films
30:20
such
30:20
as
30:20
the
30:21
Bishop's
30:21
Wife
30:22
with
30:22
Cary
30:23
Grant,
30:23
Loretta
30:24
Young,
30:24
David
30:24
Niven
30:25
and
30:26
Rio
30:26
Grande
30:27
with
30:27
John
30:27
Wayne
30:28
and
30:28
Maureen
30:29
o'.
30:29
Hara.
30:29
There's
30:30
a
30:30
duo
30:30
for
30:30
you
30:31
folks
30:32
as
30:32
well
30:32
as,
30:32
of
30:32
course,
30:33
It's
30:33
a
30:34
Wonderful
30:34
Life
30:34
playing
30:35
the
30:35
iconic
30:36
role
30:36
of
30:36
Zuzu
30:37
Bailey.
30:38
She's
30:39
back
30:39
from
30:39
the
30:39
annual
30:40
Christmas
30:40
celebration
30:41
that
30:41
takes
30:42
place
30:42
every
30:43
year
30:43
in
30:44
Seneca
30:44
Falls,
30:44
New
30:45
York.
30:45
It's
30:46
an
30:46
honor
30:46
and
30:46
a
30:47
pleasure
30:47
to
30:47
welcome
30:48
back
30:48
to
30:48
the
30:48
show
30:48
tonight
30:49
Carolyn
30:50
Grimes.
30:50
Carolyn
30:51
Good
30:51
evening.
30:52
Well,
30:52
good
30:53
evening
30:53
to
30:53
you.
30:54
Wonderful
30:55
to
30:55
have
30:55
you
30:55
with
30:55
us.
30:55
I
30:56
know
30:56
you're
30:56
under
30:56
the
30:56
weather.
30:57
We
30:57
won't
30:57
keep
30:57
you
30:58
that
30:58
long.
31:00
Okay,
31:00
thank
31:01
you.
31:01
Now,
31:02
I
31:02
want
31:02
to
31:02
talk
31:02
to
31:03
you,
31:03
Carolyn,
31:03
about
31:04
the
31:04
Christmas
31:05
festival
31:06
up
31:06
in
31:06
Seneca
31:07
Falls.
31:07
Now
31:08
my
31:08
wife
31:08
and
31:08
I
31:09
wanted
31:09
to
31:09
visit
31:10
one
31:10
year,
31:11
tell
31:11
us
31:11
a
31:12
little
31:12
bit
31:12
about
31:12
the
31:12
festival
31:13
and,
31:14
and
31:14
the
31:14
significance
31:15
of
31:15
Seneca
31:16
Falls.
31:17
Just
31:17
what
31:18
takes
31:18
place
31:18
every
31:18
year.
31:20
Well,
31:22
we
31:23
have
31:23
reason
31:23
to
31:24
believe
31:24
that
31:25
Frank
31:26
Capra
31:27
went
31:27
through
31:27
the
31:28
town
31:29
many,
31:30
many
31:30
years
31:30
ago,
31:31
and
31:31
he
31:31
got
31:31
his
31:32
ideas
31:32
for
31:33
the
31:33
design
31:34
of
31:35
Bedford
31:35
Falls
31:37
from
31:37
Seneca
31:38
Falls,
31:38
New
31:38
York.
31:39
The
31:39
street
31:39
names
31:40
are
31:40
a
31:40
lot
31:40
the
31:41
same.
31:41
There
31:42
is
31:42
the
31:42
bridge.
31:43
There's
31:44
so
31:44
many,
31:44
many
31:44
things
31:45
that
31:46
he
31:46
would
31:46
have
31:47
seen.
31:47
And
31:49
there
31:49
was
31:50
also
31:50
a
31:50
plaque
31:51
on
31:51
the
31:52
bridge
31:53
that
31:54
covers
31:54
the
31:55
canal
31:56
and
31:57
it
31:57
had
31:58
said
31:59
it
32:00
was
32:00
to
32:01
an
32:01
Italian
32:02
fellow
32:03
and
32:03
he
32:03
was
32:04
young
32:05
and
32:05
he
32:06
jumped
32:06
in
32:07
the
32:07
canal
32:08
to
32:08
save
32:08
a
32:08
woman
32:09
who
32:09
was
32:09
taking
32:10
her
32:10
own
32:10
life.
32:12
And
32:12
Capra
32:13
would
32:13
have
32:13
seen
32:13
that.
32:14
And
32:15
in
32:15
the
32:15
process
32:16
of
32:17
saving
32:17
her,
32:17
he
32:18
saved
32:18
her
32:18
life,
32:18
but
32:19
he
32:19
lost
32:19
his
32:19
own.
32:20
He
32:20
couldn't
32:20
swim.
32:21
Oh,
32:21
boy.
32:23
That's
32:24
kind
32:24
of
32:24
the
32:24
way
32:24
it
32:24
went.
32:25
And
32:26
anyway,
32:28
it
32:28
really
32:30
kind
32:30
of
32:30
was
32:31
a
32:31
chapter
32:31
in
32:32
the
32:32
town's
32:33
life
32:33
where
32:34
after
32:34
that
32:35
happened,
32:36
the
32:37
town
32:37
chipped
32:37
in
32:38
and
32:38
brought
32:38
his
32:38
whole
32:38
family
32:39
over.
32:40
And
32:41
where
32:41
there
32:41
was
32:41
a
32:41
little
32:42
difference
32:42
between
32:43
the
32:43
Italian
32:44
side
32:44
of
32:45
town
32:45
and
32:46
WASP
32:47
side
32:47
of
32:47
town.
32:48
That
32:49
changed
32:50
after
32:50
that.
32:51
And
32:51
it.
32:51
They
32:52
brought
32:52
the
32:52
town
32:53
united.
32:54
And
32:54
it
32:54
was
32:54
really
32:56
a
32:56
beautiful
32:56
thing
32:57
in
32:57
the
32:57
end.
32:58
And
32:58
he
32:58
would
32:58
have
32:58
seen
32:58
this.
32:59
So
33:00
this
33:00
is
33:00
one
33:01
thing.
33:01
And
33:01
then,
33:01
of
33:01
course,
33:02
there
33:03
was
33:03
a
33:03
barber
33:03
that
33:04
cut
33:04
his
33:04
hair.
33:05
And
33:05
I
33:06
been
33:06
going
33:06
there
33:07
long
33:07
enough
33:08
that
33:08
I
33:08
got
33:08
to
33:08
talk
33:09
to
33:09
that
33:09
barber
33:09
before
33:10
he
33:10
got
33:10
his
33:10
wings.
33:12
And
33:13
he
33:13
said
33:14
yes,
33:15
for
33:15
sure,
33:15
that
33:16
he
33:16
remembers
33:17
him
33:17
very
33:17
well.
33:18
Frank
33:18
Capra,
33:19
because
33:21
his.
33:22
The
33:22
barber's
33:22
name
33:23
is
33:23
Tony
33:23
Bellissimo.
33:24
And
33:24
Bellissimo
33:25
in
33:25
Italian
33:25
means
33:26
beautiful,
33:26
right?
33:27
Well,
33:27
capra
33:28
in
33:28
Italian
33:29
means
33:29
goat.
33:30
So
33:30
he
33:30
remembers
33:31
cutting
33:31
the
33:31
goat's
33:32
hair.
33:35
To
33:35
me,
33:36
he
33:37
was
33:37
telling
33:37
the
33:37
truth.
33:38
I
33:38
know
33:39
he
33:39
cut
33:39
his
33:39
hair.
33:40
I
33:40
know
33:40
he
33:40
was
33:40
there.
33:41
And
33:42
from
33:43
there
33:43
it
33:43
just
33:43
goes
33:43
on
33:44
and
33:44
on.
33:45
Yeah,
33:46
very
33:46
interesting
33:47
story.
33:48
So
33:48
I
33:48
think
33:49
we're
33:49
going
33:49
to
33:49
head
33:49
up
33:49
there
33:50
and
33:50
check
33:50
that
33:51
out.
33:51
Especially
33:52
there's
33:52
a
33:52
museum
33:53
up
33:53
there,
33:53
two
33:54
folks
33:54
dedicated.
33:55
It's
33:55
a
33:55
Wonderful
33:56
Life.
33:57
So
33:57
definitely
33:58
worth
33:58
a
33:58
visit.
34:00
Off
34:00
your
34:00
beaten
34:00
path
34:01
to
34:01
visit
34:01
Seneca
34:02
Falls.
34:03
Now,
34:04
Carolyn
34:04
Grimes,
34:06
what's
34:06
your
34:06
origin
34:07
in
34:08
show
34:08
business?
34:08
How
34:09
do
34:09
you
34:09
get
34:09
started?
34:11
Well,
34:11
my
34:12
mother
34:12
was
34:12
a
34:13
stage
34:13
mom
34:13
and
34:13
she
34:14
gave
34:14
me
34:14
every
34:14
kind
34:15
of
34:15
lesson
34:15
that
34:15
was
34:16
possible.
34:17
And
34:17
then
34:17
she
34:17
took
34:18
me
34:18
to
34:18
see
34:18
an
34:18
agent
34:20
and
34:20
the
34:20
agent
34:20
liked
34:21
me.
34:21
And
34:21
she
34:21
sent
34:22
me
34:22
on
34:22
some
34:22
interviews
34:23
and
34:23
I
34:23
started
34:23
getting
34:24
parts
34:24
and
34:25
I
34:25
started
34:25
when
34:25
I
34:25
was
34:26
four
34:26
years
34:26
old.
34:28
Understood.
34:29
Okay,
34:30
so
34:31
very,
34:31
very
34:31
young
34:32
folks.
34:32
Now,
34:33
people
34:34
probably
34:34
tell
34:35
you,
34:35
Carolyn,
34:35
all
34:36
the
34:36
time
34:36
when
34:37
what
34:37
the
34:37
movie
34:38
means
34:38
to
34:39
them.
34:40
Now,
34:40
is
34:40
there
34:40
a
34:40
particular
34:41
story
34:41
that
34:42
you've
34:42
been
34:43
told
34:43
that
34:43
really
34:44
stands
34:44
out?
34:47
Well,
34:49
I
34:49
have
34:49
to
34:50
go
34:50
back
34:50
to
34:52
the
34:54
story
34:54
that
34:54
was
34:54
told
34:55
to
34:55
me
34:55
by
34:57
a
34:58
middle
34:58
aged
34:58
woman.
35:00
And
35:00
she
35:01
said
35:01
that
35:01
she
35:02
was
35:02
extremely
35:02
depressed
35:04
and
35:05
that
35:05
she
35:05
really
35:07
was
35:07
considering
35:08
taking
35:08
her
35:09
own
35:09
life.
35:11
And
35:11
she
35:12
thought
35:12
about
35:13
it
35:13
and
35:13
she
35:14
was
35:14
just
35:14
about
35:14
getting
35:15
ready
35:15
to
35:16
make
35:16
the
35:17
night
35:18
be
35:18
the
35:18
one
35:19
where
35:19
she
35:20
takes
35:20
her
35:20
own
35:21
life.
35:21
But
35:22
she
35:22
said
35:22
she
35:23
sat
35:23
down
35:24
and
35:24
for
35:25
a
35:25
few
35:25
minutes
35:25
and
35:25
she
35:26
kind
35:26
of
35:26
got
35:27
caught
35:27
up
35:27
in
35:27
a
35:27
movie
35:28
and
35:28
it
35:28
was
35:29
It's
35:29
a
35:29
Wonderful
35:29
Life.
35:31
And
35:31
she
35:31
ended
35:32
up
35:32
watching
35:32
the
35:32
entire
35:33
movie
35:34
and
35:36
it
35:36
changed
35:36
her
35:36
whole
35:37
life.
35:38
She
35:38
realized
35:38
that
35:39
suicide
35:39
was
35:39
not
35:40
the
35:40
answer.
35:41
And
35:41
that
35:42
she
35:42
wanted
35:43
to
35:43
make
35:43
her
35:43
life
35:44
as
35:44
good
35:44
as
35:44
possible.
35:45
And
35:46
so
35:46
she
35:46
turned
35:46
her
35:47
life
35:47
around
35:47
and
35:48
she
35:48
wrote
35:49
me
35:50
years
35:50
later
35:51
and
35:51
said
35:51
that
35:52
It's
35:52
a
35:52
Wonderful
35:53
Life.
35:53
Saved
35:53
her
35:53
life,
35:54
wonderful
35:55
story.
35:56
It's
35:56
hard
35:57
to
35:57
believe
35:57
that
35:57
a
35:57
movie
35:58
could
35:58
do
35:58
that,
35:58
but
35:59
if
35:59
anyone
36:00
can,
36:00
it's
36:00
this
36:00
one.
36:01
Now,
36:02
you
36:03
meet
36:03
people
36:04
up
36:04
in
36:04
Seneca
36:05
Falls.
36:05
You
36:05
meet
36:06
people
36:06
all
36:06
the
36:06
time,
36:07
Carolyn,
36:07
at
36:08
different
36:08
events.
36:09
People
36:10
bring
36:10
you
36:10
things
36:10
to
36:11
sign.
36:12
What
36:12
is
36:12
the
36:12
strangest
36:13
or
36:13
the
36:14
most
36:14
unique
36:15
piece
36:16
of
36:17
memorabilia
36:18
that
36:18
someone
36:19
has
36:19
brought
36:19
you
36:20
to
36:20
sign
36:21
from.
36:21
From
36:21
the
36:21
movie?
36:25
Really,
36:26
from
36:26
the
36:26
movie?
36:28
I
36:29
can't
36:29
think
36:30
of
36:30
much
36:32
because
36:32
there.
36:33
There
36:33
isn't
36:33
a
36:33
whole
36:33
lot
36:34
out
36:34
there
36:34
from
36:34
the
36:35
movie
36:35
itself.
36:35
You
36:35
know,
36:36
the
36:36
movie
36:36
was
36:36
not
36:37
a
36:37
success,
36:37
so
36:37
they
36:38
didn't
36:38
save
36:38
a
36:38
lot
36:38
of
36:39
stuff.
36:39
How
36:39
about
36:40
something
36:40
that
36:40
someone
36:41
collected,
36:42
a
36:42
collectible
36:43
that.
36:43
That
36:43
they
36:43
have
36:44
and
36:45
they
36:45
wanted
36:45
you
36:45
to
36:45
sign?
36:47
Well,
36:49
I
36:49
have
36:49
signed
36:50
a
36:50
couple
36:50
of
36:50
guitars.
36:52
Okay.
36:53
And
36:54
they
36:54
are
36:54
special
36:55
to
36:55
them,
36:56
and
36:56
they've
36:58
had.
36:59
They
36:59
played
37:00
them
37:00
all
37:00
their
37:00
lives,
37:00
and.
37:01
And
37:01
it
37:01
was
37:01
a
37:02
big
37:02
deal.
37:02
And
37:02
it's
37:03
wonderful.
37:03
Like,
37:03
what's
37:04
their
37:04
favorite
37:04
movie?
37:05
And
37:06
so
37:06
they
37:06
wanted
37:06
me
37:07
to
37:07
sign
37:07
their
37:07
guitar,
37:08
so
37:08
I
37:08
did.
37:09
Okay.
37:10
Yeah.
37:10
Very
37:10
interesting.
37:11
As
37:11
you
37:12
say,
37:12
Carolyn,
37:13
different
37:14
things
37:14
mean
37:14
different
37:15
things
37:15
to
37:15
people.
37:16
And
37:17
whatever
37:17
floats
37:18
your
37:18
boat.
37:18
That's
37:19
a
37:19
perfect
37:19
example
37:20
of
37:20
it.
37:20
Carolyn
37:21
Grimes
37:21
from
37:21
It's
37:21
a
37:22
Wonderful
37:22
Life
37:22
with
37:23
us
37:23
tonight
37:23
on
37:24
the
37:24
show.
37:25
Now,
37:25
what
37:26
scenes
37:26
or
37:27
moments
37:27
from
37:27
It's
37:28
a
37:28
Wonderful
37:28
Life
37:29
have
37:29
kind
37:29
of
37:30
resonated
37:30
with
37:31
you
37:31
at
37:31
different
37:32
points
37:32
in
37:32
your
37:32
life?
37:38
Well,
37:41
I
37:41
guess
37:41
I
37:41
would
37:42
have
37:42
to
37:42
say
37:45
the
37:45
father
37:45
scene
37:47
with
37:47
the
37:47
kids
37:49
in
37:49
his
37:49
frustration,
37:50
and
37:50
then
37:52
later
37:52
at
37:52
the
37:52
end,
37:53
how
37:53
happy
37:53
he
37:54
is
37:54
with
37:54
the
37:55
kids
37:55
and
37:55
how
37:56
he
37:57
realizes
37:57
that
37:58
his
37:58
life
37:58
really
37:59
is
37:59
wonderful.
38:00
I
38:00
think
38:00
that's
38:01
my
38:01
favorite
38:01
part
38:02
of
38:02
the
38:02
whole
38:02
movie.
38:03
It's
38:04
really
38:04
the
38:04
theme,
38:04
isn't
38:05
it,
38:05
Carolyn,
38:05
of
38:06
the
38:06
whole
38:07
movie?
38:07
It
38:08
really
38:08
is.
38:08
Yeah.
38:09
Now,
38:09
you
38:10
weren't
38:10
in
38:10
that
38:10
scene.
38:11
You
38:11
were
38:11
up
38:11
in
38:11
bed
38:12
with
38:12
your
38:12
flower.
38:15
Did
38:15
you
38:15
hear
38:15
from
38:15
the
38:16
kids
38:16
that
38:16
they
38:16
were
38:17
kind
38:17
of
38:17
scared
38:17
when
38:18
they
38:18
filmed
38:18
that
38:18
scene?
38:19
Yes,
38:20
I
38:20
did.
38:20
Wow.
38:20
They
38:21
were.
38:21
Yeah.
38:22
Yes.
38:23
And
38:23
when
38:23
the
38:24
little
38:24
boy
38:25
had
38:25
the
38:27
mask
38:27
on
38:27
his
38:27
face,
38:28
the
38:28
Santa
38:29
mask,
38:29
and
38:29
he.
38:31
Mr.
38:31
Stewart
38:32
was
38:32
holding
38:32
him
38:33
and,
38:33
you
38:34
know,
38:34
making
38:35
him
38:35
rub
38:35
his
38:36
face
38:36
against.
38:36
And
38:37
that
38:37
mask
38:38
made
38:38
his
38:38
face
38:39
raw,
38:40
but
38:40
he
38:40
couldn't
38:41
say
38:41
a
38:41
word.
38:41
He
38:42
couldn't
38:42
do
38:42
anything.
38:43
You
38:43
know,
38:44
he
38:44
was
38:44
a
38:44
trooper.
38:45
He
38:45
was
38:45
only
38:46
4,
38:46
but
38:46
he
38:46
was
38:47
a
38:47
trooper.
38:47
He
38:47
never
38:48
let
38:48
on
38:49
that
38:49
he
38:49
was
38:49
uncomfortable
38:50
or
38:50
anything,
38:50
but
38:51
every
38:51
time
38:51
he
38:51
pulled
38:52
him
38:52
against
38:52
him,
38:53
the
38:54
mask
38:55
would
38:55
rub
38:55
his
38:56
cheek.
38:57
Oh,
38:57
boy.
38:58
He
38:58
remembers
38:59
that
38:59
to
38:59
this
38:59
day.
39:00
Interesting
39:00
story,
39:01
Carolyn.
39:01
Now,
39:02
how
39:02
about
39:02
a
39:03
behind
39:03
the
39:03
seams
39:04
memory
39:05
of
39:05
Jimmy
39:05
Stewart
39:06
that
39:07
really
39:07
stands
39:08
out
39:08
in
39:08
your
39:08
memory?
39:11
Well,
39:11
of
39:11
course,
39:12
you
39:12
know,
39:12
Jimmy
39:12
Stewart
39:13
was
39:13
extremely
39:13
tall
39:15
and
39:16
he
39:16
was
39:17
thin
39:17
as
39:17
a
39:17
rail,
39:18
so
39:18
he
39:19
looked
39:19
even
39:19
taller
39:19
because
39:20
of
39:20
that.
39:21
So
39:22
to
39:22
me,
39:23
he
39:23
was
39:24
like
39:25
a
39:25
God.
39:26
And
39:27
here
39:27
I
39:27
am
39:28
on
39:28
his
39:28
back
39:30
and
39:31
we
39:31
don't
39:31
do
39:32
a
39:32
scene
39:32
just
39:32
once.
39:33
You
39:33
do
39:33
it
39:33
over
39:33
and
39:33
over
39:34
again
39:34
and
39:35
I'm
39:35
on
39:35
his
39:35
back
39:36
coming
39:36
down
39:36
the
39:37
stairs
39:38
and
39:39
hanging
39:39
on
39:40
like
39:40
a
39:40
little
39:40
frog.
39:41
And
39:41
we
39:41
didn't
39:41
do
39:41
it
39:42
once,
39:42
we
39:42
did
39:42
it
39:42
many
39:43
times,
39:43
you
39:43
know,
39:44
so
39:45
I
39:45
always
39:45
will
39:46
remember
39:46
how
39:47
gentle
39:47
and
39:48
kind
39:48
he
39:49
was
39:49
every
39:49
take,
39:50
Every
39:50
single
39:51
one.
39:51
He
39:51
let
39:51
me
39:51
down
39:52
so
39:52
gently
39:53
and
39:54
I
39:54
had
39:54
to
39:55
cause
39:55
him
39:56
some
39:56
angst
39:56
coming
39:57
down
39:57
those
39:57
stairs,
39:58
choking
39:58
him
39:58
to
39:58
death.
40:01
Yeah.
40:02
Oh,
40:02
boy.
40:03
Now,
40:04
that
40:06
pocket
40:06
watch
40:07
given
40:07
to
40:07
you
40:07
by
40:08
the
40:08
principal
40:09
of
40:10
Bedford
40:10
Falls
40:11
High
40:11
School.
40:12
Do
40:12
you
40:12
know
40:12
whatever
40:13
happened
40:13
to
40:13
that
40:14
pocket
40:14
watch,
40:14
Carolyn?
40:16
No,
40:16
I
40:16
don't.
40:17
I
40:17
don't
40:17
have
40:18
any
40:18
idea.
40:19
All
40:19
right.
40:20
Now
40:21
I
40:21
notice
40:21
in
40:22
the
40:22
scene,
40:22
watching
40:22
it
40:23
this
40:23
season
40:24
that
40:25
you're
40:25
kind
40:25
of
40:25
looking
40:27
off,
40:28
off
40:29
screen,
40:29
off
40:29
to.
40:30
Off
40:30
of
40:30
the
40:31
set.
40:32
In
40:32
that
40:33
final
40:33
scene,
40:34
is
40:34
someone
40:34
giving
40:35
you
40:35
direction
40:36
from.
40:36
From.
40:38
From
40:38
off,
40:38
off
40:39
screen?
40:41
No,
40:41
no
40:41
one's
40:42
giving
40:42
me
40:42
instructions.
40:44
I
40:44
was
40:45
probably
40:45
just
40:45
looking
40:46
at
40:46
something
40:47
going
40:47
on
40:47
because
40:48
it
40:48
was
40:49
a
40:49
room
40:49
full
40:50
of
40:50
people.
40:50
You
40:50
know,
40:51
it
40:51
wasn't
40:52
a
40:52
room,
40:52
but
40:53
it
40:53
was
40:54
mock
40:54
up
40:54
of
40:54
a
40:54
room
40:55
with
40:56
a
40:56
lot
40:56
of
40:56
people
40:56
in
40:56
it.
40:57
And
40:57
so
40:57
there
40:57
was
40:57
a
40:57
lot
40:58
of
40:58
things
40:58
for
40:58
me
40:58
to
40:58
look
40:58
at
40:59
and
41:00
I
41:01
did.
41:02
Yeah,
41:03
as
41:04
you've
41:04
heard
41:04
a
41:04
million
41:05
times.
41:05
What
41:05
a
41:06
wonderful
41:06
scene
41:07
and
41:07
what
41:08
a
41:08
wonderful
41:08
job
41:08
you
41:09
did.
41:10
And
41:11
then
41:11
the
41:11
scene
41:11
with
41:12
Jimmy
41:12
upstairs
41:14
with
41:15
your
41:15
little
41:15
flower
41:16
that
41:16
you
41:16
want
41:16
to
41:16
give
41:16
a
41:17
drink.
41:18
What
41:18
an
41:19
amazing
41:19
scene.
41:19
How
41:20
many
41:20
times
41:20
did
41:20
you.
41:21
Did
41:21
you
41:21
have
41:21
to
41:21
go
41:22
through
41:22
the
41:22
scene
41:23
with
41:23
Jimmy
41:24
in
41:24
the
41:24
flower?
41:25
Oh,
41:26
I
41:26
have
41:26
no
41:26
idea.
41:27
Okay.
41:28
You
41:29
know,
41:29
back
41:29
in
41:29
the
41:29
day,
41:30
you
41:31
don't
41:31
count
41:31
things
41:32
like
41:32
that.
41:33
Yeah.
41:33
You
41:33
just
41:34
do
41:34
what
41:34
they
41:35
tell
41:35
you
41:35
to
41:35
do.
41:36
Understood.
41:37
Okay,
41:37
I
41:37
got
41:37
you
41:38
there.
41:39
Of
41:39
all
41:39
the
41:39
characters
41:40
in
41:40
the
41:40
movie,
41:41
Carolyn,
41:42
which
41:42
one
41:42
do
41:42
you
41:43
think
41:43
is
41:43
the
41:43
most
41:44
underappreciated?
41:45
I
41:45
mean,
41:45
you
41:46
have
41:46
so
41:46
many
41:46
characters
41:47
and
41:48
their
41:48
personalities
41:49
are
41:49
brought
41:49
out.
41:50
You
41:50
have
41:50
Bert
41:50
and
41:50
Ernie,
41:51
you
41:51
know,
41:51
you
41:51
have
41:52
Violet.
41:53
Of
41:54
course,
41:54
you
41:54
have
41:57
Lionel
41:58
Barrymore
41:59
went
41:59
blank
41:59
there
42:00
for
42:00
a
42:00
second.
42:01
Which
42:01
of
42:01
the
42:02
characters
42:02
do
42:02
you
42:02
think
42:03
is
42:03
the
42:03
most
42:03
underappreciated
42:04
of
42:05
all?
42:07
Probably
42:08
Uncle
42:08
Billy.
42:09
Ah,
42:09
okay.
42:11
And
42:12
why
42:12
would
42:12
you
42:12
say
42:12
Uncle
42:13
Billy?
42:14
Because
42:14
he
42:15
was.
42:16
He
42:17
was
42:17
the
42:18
really
42:18
the
42:18
foundation
42:19
of
42:19
a
42:19
lot
42:20
of
42:20
that
42:20
movie.
42:21
Because
42:21
he
42:22
was
42:22
his
42:23
uncle.
42:24
He
42:24
was
42:24
a
42:25
little
42:25
fae
42:26
in
42:26
the
42:26
head.
42:27
And
42:28
yet
42:30
George
42:31
managed
42:31
to
42:33
take
42:33
advantage
42:34
of
42:34
his
42:34
abilities
42:35
and
42:36
give
42:36
him
42:36
a
42:36
life.
42:37
And
42:38
I
42:38
think
42:38
he
42:38
portrayed
42:39
that
42:39
part
42:40
so
42:40
well,
42:41
and
42:42
especially
42:43
where
42:43
George
42:44
is
42:44
in
42:44
his
42:44
office
42:45
when
42:45
the
42:45
money
42:46
goes
42:46
down
42:46
missing
42:47
and
42:47
he's
42:47
yelling
42:48
at
42:48
him
42:48
and
42:49
that
42:50
sort
42:50
of
42:50
thing.
42:51
I
42:51
think
42:52
he
42:52
was
42:53
absolutely
42:54
marvelous.
42:55
He's
42:56
a
42:56
great
42:56
actor,
42:56
and
42:57
I
42:57
love
42:57
seeing
42:58
him
42:58
on
42:59
Turner
42:59
Classics,
43:00
in
43:01
other
43:01
films
43:02
that
43:02
he
43:02
shows
43:02
up
43:02
in.
43:03
He's
43:03
really
43:04
a
43:04
magnificent
43:05
character
43:05
actor.
43:06
And
43:07
especially
43:07
Gone
43:08
with
43:08
the
43:08
Wind
43:08
when
43:09
he
43:09
plays
43:10
Mr.
43:10
O'.
43:11
Hara.
43:11
People
43:12
may
43:12
not
43:12
realize
43:13
that,
43:14
but
43:14
what
43:14
an
43:14
amazing
43:15
job.
43:18
He
43:18
was
43:18
very
43:18
talented.
43:19
Yeah,
43:20
he
43:20
definitely
43:21
was.
43:22
Now,
43:22
how
43:22
about
43:23
Donna
43:23
Reed,
43:24
Carolyn?
43:26
How
43:26
was
43:26
she
43:27
on
43:27
the
43:27
set
43:27
and
43:29
was
43:29
she
43:29
kind
43:30
to
43:30
you
43:30
kids?
43:32
I
43:32
don't
43:32
remember
43:33
a
43:33
thing
43:33
about
43:33
her,
43:34
really.
43:36
Okay.
43:37
No,
43:37
my
43:37
attention
43:38
was
43:38
all
43:38
on
43:39
him.
43:39
I
43:39
never
43:40
had
43:40
any
43:40
lines
43:41
with
43:41
her,
43:42
and
43:43
so
43:43
there
43:43
was
43:43
no
43:43
interaction.
43:45
Okay.
43:46
We're
43:46
talking
43:47
to
43:47
Carolyn
43:47
Grimes
43:48
tonight,
43:48
of
43:48
course,
43:48
Zuzu
43:49
Bailey
43:50
in
43:50
the
43:50
holiday
43:51
classic
43:51
It's
43:52
a
43:52
Wonderful
43:52
Life
43:52
on
43:53
our
43:53
holiday
43:53
show
43:54
tonight
43:54
on
43:55
WGBB.
43:56
Now,
43:57
if
43:57
you
43:57
could
43:57
go
43:58
back
43:58
and
43:58
tell
43:59
4
43:59
year
43:59
old
43:59
Carolyn
44:00
one
44:00
thing,
44:01
what
44:02
would
44:02
that.
44:06
Gosh,
44:06
I
44:06
don't
44:07
know.
44:10
Just
44:11
always
44:11
have
44:11
faith.
44:12
Mm.
44:15
And
44:15
what
44:15
person
44:16
besides
44:17
Jimmy
44:18
do
44:18
you
44:18
remember
44:19
from
44:20
the
44:20
set,
44:21
Carolyn,
44:21
that
44:22
really
44:23
made
44:23
an
44:23
impact
44:23
on
44:24
you?
44:26
Well,
44:26
pretty
44:27
much
44:27
the
44:27
kids.
44:28
Yeah,
44:28
I
44:29
didn't
44:29
really
44:29
have
44:30
anything
44:30
to
44:30
do
44:31
with
44:31
any
44:32
other
44:32
adults.
44:35
The
44:35
adults
44:36
don't
44:36
pay
44:36
attention
44:36
to
44:37
the
44:37
kids.
44:37
When
44:37
you're
44:37
on
44:38
the
44:38
set,
44:39
the
44:39
kids
44:40
pay
44:40
attention
44:40
to
44:40
the
44:41
kids.
44:41
And
44:42
that's
44:42
kind
44:43
of
44:43
what
44:43
I
44:44
was
44:44
more
44:44
or
44:44
less
44:45
paying
44:45
attention
44:46
to.
44:46
You
44:46
know,
44:47
we
44:47
played
44:48
and
44:49
had
44:49
fun
44:50
and
44:50
it
44:51
was
44:51
a
44:51
great
44:51
time.
44:52
Now,
44:53
of
44:53
course,
44:53
Zuzu,
44:54
one
44:54
of
44:55
the
44:55
most
44:55
beloved
44:56
characters
44:56
in
44:56
the
44:57
film,
44:57
everyone
44:58
would
44:59
agree
44:59
with
44:59
that.
45:00
Now,
45:01
has
45:01
that
45:02
always
45:02
been
45:02
a
45:02
source
45:03
of
45:03
pride
45:03
for
45:04
you,
45:04
Carolyn,
45:05
or
45:05
has
45:05
kind
45:06
of
45:06
your
45:06
relationship
45:07
to
45:07
that
45:07
character
45:08
changed
45:09
over
45:09
the
45:09
years?
45:12
No,
45:13
you
45:13
got
45:14
to
45:14
realize
45:14
I
45:14
never
45:14
even
45:15
saw
45:15
the
45:15
movie
45:15
till
45:16
I
45:16
was
45:16
40.
45:17
Wow.
45:18
Okay.
45:19
I,
45:21
you
45:21
know,
45:22
I
45:22
don't
45:22
have
45:22
any
45:22
basis
45:23
or
45:23
anything.
45:23
It
45:23
just
45:24
popped
45:24
when
45:25
I
45:25
was
45:25
40,
45:25
and
45:26
that's
45:26
when
45:26
everything
45:27
started
45:27
happening,
45:28
and
45:29
that's
45:29
when
45:29
it
45:29
became
45:30
a
45:30
huge
45:31
part
45:31
of
45:31
my
45:31
life.
45:33
Yeah.
45:33
And
45:33
people
45:33
have
45:34
to
45:34
realize,
45:34
Carolyn,
45:35
that
45:36
It's
45:36
a
45:36
Wonderful
45:36
Life
45:37
was
45:37
not
45:38
the
45:38
huge
45:38
hit
45:38
that
45:39
it
45:39
was
45:39
today
45:40
back
45:40
when
45:40
it
45:40
was
45:41
first
45:41
released.
45:42
Mm,
45:43
mm.
45:44
No,
45:44
not
45:44
at
45:44
all.
45:44
It
45:44
was
45:45
a
45:45
box
45:45
office
45:45
failure.
45:46
Yeah.
45:47
And
45:48
maybe
45:48
hard
45:48
for
45:49
people
45:49
to
45:49
believe,
45:50
but
45:50
that's
45:51
exactly
45:51
what
45:51
happened.
45:52
Now,
45:53
was
45:53
it
45:53
just
45:53
coming
45:54
into
45:54
its
45:54
own
45:55
when
45:55
you
45:55
were
45:55
40,
45:56
Carolyn,
45:56
you
45:57
saw
45:57
it
45:57
for
45:57
the
45:57
first
45:57
time.
45:58
Was
45:58
it
45:58
beginning
45:59
to
45:59
blossom
46:00
into
46:01
people's
46:01
lives
46:01
at
46:02
that
46:02
point?
46:03
No,
46:04
it
46:04
already
46:04
had
46:05
been
46:05
for
46:05
a
46:05
long
46:06
time.
46:07
Okay.
46:07
It
46:08
was
46:08
released
46:09
to
46:09
public
46:10
domain
46:10
in
46:11
the
46:11
late
46:11
70s.
46:13
Okay.
46:14
So
46:15
it
46:16
had
46:16
been
46:16
out
46:17
for
46:17
a
46:17
long
46:17
time.
46:19
I
46:19
just.
46:21
Well,
46:21
I
46:21
just
46:21
didn't.
46:22
Didn't
46:22
watch
46:23
it.
46:23
I
46:23
didn't
46:23
watch
46:24
any
46:24
of
46:24
my
46:24
movies.
46:26
How.
46:27
How
46:27
was
46:27
it
46:27
working
46:28
with
46:28
John
46:28
Wayne
46:29
and
46:29
Maureen
46:29
o'?
46:29
Hara?
46:32
Well,
46:32
that
46:32
was
46:34
very
46:34
interesting
46:35
because
46:35
she
46:35
really
46:36
had
46:36
a
46:36
temper.
46:37
John
46:37
Ford
46:38
had
46:38
a
46:38
temper.
46:39
Oh,
46:39
yeah.
46:40
Two
46:40
of
46:41
them
46:41
would
46:41
clash
46:42
quite
46:43
often.
46:45
I
46:45
never
46:46
saw
46:47
John
46:47
Wayne
46:48
clash
46:49
with
46:49
her
46:49
at
46:50
all.
46:50
They
46:50
were.
46:51
Seem
46:51
to
46:52
be
46:52
friends,
46:53
and
46:54
I
46:54
just,
46:55
you
46:55
know,
46:56
they
46:56
were
46:56
just
46:56
regular
46:57
people.
46:57
I
46:58
didn't.
46:58
My
46:58
mother
46:59
brought
46:59
me
46:59
up
46:59
to
47:00
not
47:00
realize
47:01
that
47:02
these
47:03
people
47:03
that
47:03
I'm
47:03
working
47:04
with
47:04
are
47:04
stars.
47:06
I
47:06
didn't
47:06
even
47:06
know
47:07
what
47:07
a
47:07
star
47:07
was.
47:08
So,
47:09
you
47:09
know,
47:09
really,
47:11
I
47:11
was.
47:12
I
47:12
just
47:12
treated
47:13
them
47:13
like
47:13
normal
47:14
people.
47:15
And
47:15
that
47:16
was
47:16
kind
47:16
of
47:17
the
47:17
best
47:17
thing
47:17
to
47:18
do,
47:18
I
47:18
think.
47:18
Yeah.
47:19
No,
47:19
I
47:19
agree
47:19
100%,
47:20
Carolyn.
47:22
You
47:22
probably
47:23
wouldn't
47:23
get
47:23
your
47:24
best
47:24
performance
47:24
or
47:25
the
47:25
best
47:25
results
47:26
being
47:27
in
47:27
awe
47:27
of
47:28
these
47:28
people.
47:28
Not
47:29
at
47:29
all.
47:29
Right.
47:30
Right.
47:31
Yeah.
47:32
And
47:33
one
47:33
of
47:33
my
47:33
favorite
47:34
films,
47:34
Carolyn,
47:35
is
47:35
the
47:35
Quiet
47:35
man
47:36
with
47:36
John
47:37
Wayne
47:37
and
47:37
Maureen
47:38
o'.
47:38
Hara.
47:39
And
47:39
as
47:39
they
47:40
said
47:41
in
47:41
the
47:41
Quiet
47:42
Man,
47:42
Barry
47:42
Fitzgerald
47:43
says,
47:43
that
47:44
redhead
47:44
of
47:44
hers
47:45
is
47:45
no
47:45
lie.
47:46
She
47:46
was.
47:48
She
47:48
had
47:48
a
47:48
bit
47:48
of
47:49
a
47:49
temper
47:49
on
47:49
her.
47:51
Well,
47:51
she
47:51
got
47:52
into
47:52
it
47:52
with
47:52
Ford
47:53
a
47:53
lot,
47:53
I'll
47:53
tell
47:53
you
47:54
that.
47:55
From
47:55
what
47:55
I
47:55
understand,
47:56
he
47:56
wasn't
47:57
an
47:57
easy
47:57
man
47:57
to
47:58
get
47:58
along
47:58
with
47:58
either.
47:59
I
47:59
don't
47:59
know
47:59
if
47:59
you
48:00
saw
48:00
that
48:02
emanate
48:02
at
48:03
all
48:03
or
48:03
not.
48:05
Yeah,
48:05
people
48:06
were
48:06
kind
48:06
of
48:06
scared
48:07
of
48:07
him.
48:07
I
48:07
even
48:07
remember
48:08
that.
48:09
Yeah,
48:09
you
48:10
had
48:10
to
48:10
walk
48:10
on
48:10
eggshells
48:11
kind
48:11
of
48:11
around
48:12
him.
48:12
Yeah.
48:13
But
48:14
a
48:14
genius.
48:14
He
48:15
was
48:15
a
48:15
very
48:15
successful
48:16
director.
48:16
So,
48:16
you
48:17
know,
48:17
he
48:17
did
48:17
it.
48:18
Did
48:18
a
48:18
great
48:18
job.
48:19
A
48:19
genius,
48:19
but
48:20
temperamental,
48:21
for
48:21
sure.
48:21
And.
48:23
And
48:23
the
48:24
Bishop's
48:24
Wife,
48:24
Cary
48:25
Grant.
48:26
How
48:26
is
48:26
it
48:26
working
48:27
with
48:27
another
48:27
Hollywood
48:28
legend?
48:30
Well,
48:31
he
48:31
was
48:32
very
48:32
special
48:33
because
48:33
he
48:33
liked
48:34
children.
48:35
And
48:35
so
48:35
he.
48:36
He
48:36
would
48:36
spend
48:36
the
48:37
whole
48:37
day
48:37
with
48:37
me.
48:40
He
48:40
pulled
48:41
me
48:41
around
48:41
on
48:41
a
48:41
sled
48:42
at
48:42
lunchtime
48:43
on
48:44
the
48:44
ice
48:44
skating
48:44
rink.
48:45
We
48:45
really
48:45
had
48:45
one
48:46
on
48:46
the
48:46
stage.
48:46
And
48:48
he
48:48
just
48:48
was
48:48
a
48:49
really,
48:49
really
48:49
sweet
48:50
fellow.
48:50
And
48:51
I
48:51
don't
48:51
think.
48:53
I
48:53
think
48:53
he
48:53
had
48:53
a
48:54
photographic
48:54
memory
48:55
because
48:55
I
48:55
never
48:56
ever,
48:56
ever,
48:56
ever,
48:57
ever
48:57
saw
48:57
him
48:58
with
48:58
the
48:58
script
48:58
in
48:59
his
48:59
hand.
49:01
Wow.
49:01
Yeah.
49:02
Very
49:02
interesting
49:03
story
49:03
about
49:03
Cary
49:04
Grant,
49:04
folks.
49:05
Another.
49:05
Another
49:06
guy
49:06
that
49:06
I
49:07
love
49:07
see
49:08
showing
49:08
up.
49:10
I
49:10
spend
49:11
a
49:11
lot
49:11
of
49:11
time
49:11
watching
49:12
tcm,
49:13
Carolyn.
49:13
I
49:13
really
49:14
enjoy
49:15
the
49:15
classic
49:16
films.
49:16
Carolyn
49:17
Grimes
49:17
with
49:18
us
49:18
tonight
49:18
on
49:19
Sports
49:19
Talk
49:20
New
49:20
York.
49:21
Now,
49:21
aside
49:22
from
49:22
Wonderful
49:22
Life,
49:23
Carolyn,
49:24
what's
49:24
your
49:24
favorite
49:25
Christmas
49:25
movie
49:26
or
49:27
movies?
49:29
Oh.
49:32
Well,
49:32
of
49:32
Course,
49:33
I
49:33
love
49:33
Christmas
49:33
vacation.
49:34
Oh,
49:35
okay.
49:38
Because
49:38
in
49:38
Christmas
49:39
Vacation,
49:40
you
49:40
know,
49:41
It's
49:41
Wonderful
49:41
Life
49:42
shows
49:42
up
49:42
in
49:43
there.
49:43
It
49:43
does,
49:44
yeah.
49:47
Great
49:47
choice.
49:48
Yeah.
49:49
Chevy
49:49
Chase
49:50
as
49:50
Clark
49:51
Griswold
49:52
is
49:52
another
49:52
classic
49:53
character,
49:54
and
49:55
they
49:55
really
49:55
did
49:56
a
49:56
great
49:56
job
49:56
with
49:56
that
49:57
film.
49:57
I
49:57
agree.
49:59
Now,
49:59
if
50:00
you
50:00
could
50:00
relive
50:01
one
50:01
moment
50:01
in
50:02
your
50:02
life,
50:02
Carolyn,
50:05
A
50:05
Wonderful
50:05
Life,
50:07
as
50:07
we
50:08
say,
50:08
what
50:09
would
50:09
that
50:09
be?
50:16
Well,
50:16
I
50:17
don't
50:17
really
50:17
know.
50:19
I've
50:19
never
50:20
thought
50:20
about
50:20
it.
50:22
I
50:22
don't
50:22
really
50:23
know.
50:25
Right
50:25
now.
50:26
What
50:26
things
50:26
are
50:26
you
50:26
deeply
50:27
grateful
50:27
for?
50:30
Family
50:30
and
50:31
friends.
50:32
And
50:33
I'm
50:33
very
50:33
grateful
50:34
for
50:34
the
50:34
fact
50:34
that
50:34
I
50:35
got
50:35
to
50:35
be
50:35
that
50:35
little
50:36
girl,
50:36
Zuzu,
50:36
in
50:37
the
50:37
movie.
50:38
Rightfully
50:39
so.
50:39
It's
50:40
become
50:40
literally
50:41
my
50:41
life
50:42
in
50:42
the
50:42
last,
50:43
you
50:43
know,
50:45
30
50:45
years,
50:46
right?
50:47
Rightfully
50:48
so,
50:48
Carolyn.
50:49
Yeah,
50:49
I
50:49
agree
50:49
with
50:50
you
50:50
100%.
50:52
Now,
50:53
a
50:54
day.
50:54
A
50:54
day
50:54
in
50:55
your
50:55
life,
50:56
what.
50:56
What
50:56
keeps
50:57
you
50:57
busy?
50:57
What
50:57
do
50:57
you
50:58
do
50:58
during
50:58
the
50:58
day?
50:59
What
50:59
makes
50:59
you
50:59
happy?
51:02
Well,
51:02
I
51:03
have
51:03
a
51:03
store
51:04
and
51:04
I.
51:05
An
51:05
online
51:06
store,
51:06
and
51:06
I
51:06
sell
51:07
it.
51:07
Wonderful
51:07
Life
51:08
products.
51:08
And
51:09
I
51:09
get
51:10
a
51:10
lot
51:10
of
51:10
fan
51:10
mail.
51:11
You
51:11
know,
51:12
I'm.
51:12
I'm
51:12
pretty
51:13
busy,
51:13
actually,
51:13
because
51:14
I'm
51:14
booking
51:15
shows
51:15
or
51:16
doing
51:16
something
51:17
all
51:17
the
51:18
time,
51:18
so
51:19
I'm.
51:20
I'm
51:20
pretty
51:20
busy.
51:21
You
51:21
do
51:21
a
51:21
lot
51:21
of
51:21
traveling?
51:23
Yes,
51:23
I
51:23
do.
51:24
And
51:24
next
51:24
year
51:24
is
51:25
even
51:25
going
51:25
to
51:25
be
51:25
more,
51:26
because
51:26
there's
51:26
a
51:27
new
51:27
movie
51:27
coming
51:27
out,
51:29
and
51:29
it's
51:30
called
51:30
Jimmy,
51:32
and
51:32
it'll
51:32
be
51:33
released
51:35
the
51:35
beginning
51:36
of
51:36
November
51:37
next
51:37
year,
51:38
26th.
51:39
And
51:41
it's.
51:41
It's
51:41
going
51:42
to
51:42
be
51:42
a
51:42
story
51:43
of
51:43
Jimmy
51:43
Stewart
51:44
and
51:44
his
51:44
days
51:44
during
51:45
the
51:45
war.
51:46
His
51:46
life
51:47
at
51:47
that
51:47
time.
51:48
Yeah.
51:49
A
51:49
lot
51:49
of
51:49
people
51:50
have
51:50
said,
51:51
and
51:51
I've
51:51
read
51:51
it,
51:51
Carolyn,
51:52
that
51:53
during
51:54
that
51:54
scene
51:54
when
51:55
he's
51:56
angry
51:57
and
51:57
he
51:57
sort
51:57
of
51:58
takes
51:58
it
51:58
out
51:58
on
51:58
the
51:59
kids,
52:00
that
52:00
that
52:01
kind
52:01
of
52:01
resonated
52:02
to
52:02
a
52:02
past
52:03
experience
52:04
in
52:04
Jimmy's
52:05
life
52:05
that
52:06
had
52:06
to
52:06
do
52:06
with
52:07
his
52:07
time
52:07
in
52:08
the
52:08
service.
52:09
Did
52:10
you
52:10
ever
52:10
know
52:11
that?
52:12
No,
52:12
I
52:12
didn't.
52:14
Hmm.
52:14
Okay.
52:15
It's
52:16
just
52:16
part
52:17
of
52:17
the
52:17
things
52:17
that
52:18
you
52:18
read
52:18
about
52:18
the
52:19
movie
52:19
that
52:21
may
52:21
be
52:21
false.
52:22
Maybe
52:22
not.
52:23
We
52:24
will
52:24
never
52:24
know.
52:26
Now,
52:27
go
52:27
ahead,
52:29
Jimmy.
52:29
That's
52:30
coming
52:30
out.
52:30
You'll
52:30
have
52:31
an
52:31
idea
52:31
of
52:31
what
52:32
damage
52:33
he
52:33
had
52:34
when
52:34
he
52:34
was
52:35
in
52:35
the
52:35
war
52:35
and
52:36
how
52:36
It's
52:36
a
52:36
Wonderful
52:37
Life
52:37
helped
52:38
him
52:39
recoup
52:40
his
52:40
life.
52:41
That's
52:41
what
52:41
I'm
52:42
referring
52:42
to.
52:43
Yeah.
52:44
And
52:45
as
52:45
you
52:45
say,
52:46
the
52:46
folks
52:46
will
52:47
find
52:47
out
52:47
more
52:47
about
52:48
Jimmy.
52:48
And
52:49
he
52:49
really,
52:51
a
52:51
lot
52:51
of
52:51
gentlemen
52:52
during
52:52
that
52:52
time
52:53
joined
52:53
in
52:53
the
52:53
war
52:54
effort
52:55
and
52:55
did
52:55
a
52:56
tremendous
52:56
job
52:56
for
52:57
the
52:57
United
52:57
States
52:58
and
52:59
deserve
52:59
a
52:59
lot
53:00
of
53:00
credit
53:00
for
53:00
that.
53:00
I
53:01
was
53:01
just
53:01
reading
53:02
today
53:02
about
53:03
Bing
53:03
Crosby.
53:04
And
53:05
he
53:05
was
53:05
asked
53:06
at
53:06
one
53:06
point
53:08
what
53:08
was
53:08
the
53:09
most
53:09
challenging
53:11
thing
53:11
that
53:11
he
53:12
was
53:12
ever
53:12
presented
53:13
with
53:13
during
53:13
his
53:13
life.
53:14
And
53:14
it
53:15
wasn't
53:15
dealing
53:15
with
53:16
directors.
53:16
It
53:17
wasn't
53:17
dealing
53:17
with
53:18
anybody
53:18
in
53:18
Hollywood.
53:19
It
53:19
didn't
53:19
have
53:19
to
53:20
do
53:20
with
53:20
a
53:20
movie
53:21
or
53:21
a
53:21
recording
53:22
issue
53:23
that
53:23
came
53:24
up.
53:24
It
53:24
was
53:24
that
53:25
he
53:25
was
53:25
in
53:25
northern
53:26
France
53:27
in
53:27
December
53:28
of
53:28
1944,
53:30
and
53:30
he
53:30
had
53:31
to
53:31
entertain
53:32
15,000American
53:35
soldiers
53:35
or
53:35
so
53:36
who
53:36
were
53:37
due
53:37
the
53:37
next
53:37
week
53:38
to
53:40
go
53:40
to
53:40
the
53:40
front
53:41
lines.
53:41
And
53:41
that
53:41
was
53:42
the
53:42
Battle
53:42
of
53:42
the
53:42
Bulge,
53:44
and
53:44
as
53:44
we
53:45
know,
53:45
a
53:45
very
53:45
bloody
53:46
battle
53:46
in
53:46
World
53:47
War
53:47
II.
53:48
And
53:50
he
53:50
basically
53:51
said
53:51
he
53:51
was
53:51
singing
53:52
White
53:52
Christmas
53:53
to
53:54
a
53:54
bunch
53:54
of
53:54
soldiers,
53:55
many
53:55
of
53:55
whom
53:56
were
53:56
sobbing,
53:57
who
53:57
probably
53:58
would
53:58
be
53:59
gone
53:59
in
53:59
a
54:00
week.
54:01
And
54:02
just
54:03
a
54:03
very
54:03
poignant
54:04
story
54:04
from
54:05
Bing
54:05
Crosby.
54:07
And
54:08
as
54:08
we
54:09
said,
54:09
Jimmy,
54:10
that
54:10
movie,
54:11
Jimmy.
54:11
We'll
54:11
have
54:11
to
54:12
look
54:12
for
54:12
that
54:13
to
54:13
see
54:14
exactly
54:16
Jimmy's
54:16
point
54:17
of
54:17
view
54:17
and
54:17
his
54:18
experiences
54:18
during
54:19
the
54:19
war.
54:21
How
54:21
about
54:21
your
54:21
favorite
54:22
Christmas
54:22
tune,
54:23
Carolyn?
54:23
What
54:23
would
54:24
that
54:24
be?
54:25
My
54:25
favorite
54:26
what
54:26
Christmas
54:27
song?
54:29
Oh,
54:29
White
54:29
Christmas.
54:31
Okay,
54:32
good
54:32
choice.
54:32
Good
54:33
choice.
54:34
And
54:35
I.
54:35
I
54:35
suppose
54:36
it
54:36
wouldn't
54:36
be
54:36
Hark
54:37
the
54:37
Herald
54:37
Angels
54:38
Sing
54:38
because
54:39
we
54:39
heard
54:41
Little.
54:41
The
54:42
Little
54:42
Bailey
54:42
Girl
54:43
play
54:43
it
54:43
several
54:43
times
54:44
during
54:44
the
54:45
movie.
54:45
Yes.
54:46
Yeah.
54:47
Badly,
54:47
too.
54:48
Yeah.
54:50
Oh,
54:50
goodness.
54:52
Now,
54:52
I
54:52
wanted
54:52
to
54:53
ask
54:53
you
54:53
about
54:53
Peter,
54:55
Peter
54:55
Bailey.
54:56
Was
54:57
he
54:58
also
54:59
in
54:59
the
54:59
Blondie
55:00
movies?
55:01
Yes,
55:02
that's
55:03
Baby
55:03
Dumpling.
55:04
Yeah,
55:04
I
55:04
thought
55:05
that
55:05
might
55:05
be
55:05
him.
55:06
Now,
55:07
were
55:07
you.
55:07
He
55:08
got
55:08
$100
55:09
a
55:09
day
55:09
because
55:10
he
55:10
had
55:10
been
55:10
Baby
55:11
Dumpling.
55:12
And
55:12
Janie
55:13
and
55:13
I
55:13
got
55:14
$75
55:15
a
55:15
day
55:15
and
55:15
little
55:16
Tommy
55:16
got
55:16
50.
55:17
Okay,
55:18
so
55:18
there's
55:19
the
55:19
pay
55:19
scale,
55:19
folks.
55:20
Now,
55:21
were
55:21
you
55:21
kind
55:21
of
55:21
scared
55:22
of
55:22
Lyle
55:22
Barrymore?
55:25
No,
55:26
I
55:26
never
55:26
was
55:27
in
55:27
a
55:27
scene
55:27
with
55:27
him,
55:28
no.
55:28
So
55:28
you
55:28
didn't
55:29
publicity
55:30
photos
55:30
together,
55:31
But
55:31
I
55:31
was
55:31
never
55:32
really
55:32
in
55:32
a
55:32
scene.
55:32
With
55:33
him
55:33
because
55:33
he's
55:34
kind
55:34
of
55:34
a
55:34
scary
55:35
character
55:36
to
55:36
me.
55:36
Anyway.
55:39
Well,
55:39
Carolyn,
55:39
I
55:40
tell
55:40
you,
55:40
it's
55:40
been
55:40
an
55:40
honor
55:41
and
55:41
a
55:41
pleasure
55:41
having
55:42
you
55:42
back
55:42
with
55:42
us.
55:43
I
55:43
thank
55:44
you
55:44
for
55:44
taking
55:44
time
55:45
out
55:45
of
55:45
your
55:45
Sunday
55:45
evening
55:46
to
55:46
spend
55:46
some
55:47
of
55:47
it
55:47
with
55:47
us
55:47
back
55:47
here
55:48
in
55:48
New
55:48
York.
55:49
Merry
55:50
Christmas
55:50
to
55:51
you
55:52
and
55:52
I
55:52
wish
55:52
you
55:52
the
55:52
happiest
55:53
of
55:53
New
55:53
Years.
55:54
To
55:54
you
55:54
and
55:54
the
55:55
family,
55:55
all
55:56
the
55:56
best
55:56
in
55:56
2026.
55:59
Thank
55:59
you
55:59
very
56:00
much.
56:00
And
56:00
back
56:01
at
56:01
you.
56:01
Gotcha.
56:02
All
56:02
right,
56:02
thanks
56:03
again,
56:03
Carolyn.
56:04
And
56:04
we'll
56:05
look
56:05
forward
56:05
to
56:05
our
56:05
next
56:06
conversation.
56:07
That
56:07
is
56:07
the
56:08
wonderful
56:08
Carolyn
56:09
Grimes,
56:09
ladies
56:09
and
56:10
gentlemen.
56:10
Up
56:10
next
56:11
on
56:11
the
56:12
holiday
56:12
edition
56:12
of
56:13
Sports
56:13
Talk,
56:13
New
56:14
York,
56:14
number
56:14
14
56:15
of
56:15
the
56:16
New
56:16
York
56:16
Islander
56:16
Stanley
56:17
cup
56:17
dynasty,
56:18
Bob
56:18
Bourne.
56:19
Stick
56:19
around,
56:19
my
56:20
friends.
56:35
All
56:36
right,
56:36
folks,
56:36
we
56:37
are
56:37
back
56:37
with
56:37
the
56:37
holiday
56:38
spectacular
56:39
edition
56:39
of
56:39
Sports
56:40
Talk
56:40
New
56:40
York.
56:41
I
56:41
beg
56:41
your
56:41
indulgence
56:42
as
56:42
I'm
56:42
starting
56:43
to
56:43
lose
56:43
my
56:43
voice
56:44
tonight.
56:45
A
56:45
little
56:46
under
56:46
the
56:46
weather
56:46
myself,
56:47
just
56:47
as
56:47
Carolyn
56:48
Grimes
56:48
was.
56:49
This
56:49
is
56:50
Bill
56:50
Donahue
56:50
here
56:51
with
56:51
you
56:51
from
56:51
beautiful
56:52
downtown
56:52
Merrick,
56:53
Long
56:53
Island,
56:53
New
56:53
York,
56:54
usa,
56:54
North
56:55
America,
56:55
Earth,
56:55
Milky
56:56
Way,
56:56
Galaxy.
56:58
If
56:58
you
56:58
need
56:58
more
56:58
of
56:59
a
56:59
location,
56:59
find
57:00
it
57:00
with
57:00
that.
57:02
Greetings.
57:02
We
57:03
are
57:03
peaceful.
57:08
How
57:08
about
57:08
that,
57:08
Brian?
57:09
Yeah.
57:10
All
57:10
right.
57:11
How
57:11
about
57:11
those
57:11
jets
57:12
today?
57:14
That's
57:15
really
57:15
a
57:15
microcosm
57:16
of
57:16
the
57:16
season,
57:17
folks.
57:17
That's
57:17
all
57:18
I
57:18
have
57:18
to
57:18
say.
57:19
We'll
57:19
move
57:19
on
57:19
to
57:20
better
57:20
things,
57:20
greater
57:21
memories,
57:21
happier
57:22
times.
57:22
My
57:23
next
57:23
guest
57:23
played
57:24
for
57:24
the
57:24
New
57:24
York
57:24
islanders
57:25
and
57:25
the
57:25
LA
57:26
Kings
57:26
of
57:26
the
57:26
NHL
57:27
between
57:28
74
57:29
and
57:29
88.
57:31
He,
57:31
of
57:31
course,
57:31
was
57:32
a
57:32
four
57:32
time
57:33
Stanley
57:33
cup
57:33
winner
57:34
with
57:34
the
57:34
wonderful
57:35
dynasty
57:36
of
57:36
the
57:36
islanders
57:37
and
57:38
a
57:38
1984
57:40
Canada
57:40
cup
57:41
champion.
57:42
He
57:42
was
57:42
inducted
57:43
into
57:43
the
57:43
New
57:43
York
57:43
Islanders
57:44
hall
57:44
of
57:44
fame
57:45
in
57:45
2006.
57:47
I.
57:47
Welcome
57:47
to
57:48
Sports
57:48
Talk
57:48
New
57:49
York.
57:49
Tonight,
57:49
number
57:50
14,
57:50
Bob
57:51
Bourne.
57:51
Bob,
57:51
good
57:52
evening.
57:53
Hi,
57:54
Phil.
57:54
How
57:54
you
57:54
doing?
57:54
We're
57:55
doing
57:55
good,
57:55
my
57:56
friend.
57:56
How
57:56
you
57:57
feeling
57:57
these
57:57
days?
57:59
I've
58:00
been
58:00
sick
58:00
the
58:01
last
58:01
little
58:01
while,
58:01
Phil.
58:02
I
58:02
had
58:02
a
58:02
couple
58:02
infections
58:03
going
58:03
on
58:04
there
58:04
about
58:04
three
58:04
weeks
58:05
ago.
58:05
I
58:05
spent
58:05
about
58:06
six
58:06
months,
58:06
stayed
58:06
in
58:06
the
58:07
hospital.
58:07
Oh,
58:08
man.
58:09
But
58:09
I,
58:10
I'm
58:11
getting
58:11
way
58:11
better
58:12
now,
58:12
so.
58:12
Yeah,
58:13
no,
58:13
I
58:13
certainly
58:14
feel
58:14
better
58:14
now,
58:14
but
58:15
I
58:15
have
58:15
been
58:16
pretty
58:16
sick
58:16
lately.
58:17
I
58:17
hear
58:18
you.
58:18
Yeah.
58:19
Things,
58:20
things
58:20
are
58:20
starting
58:20
to
58:21
catch
58:21
up
58:21
with
58:21
us,
58:21
Bob.
58:22
I
58:22
know.
58:22
I
58:22
understand.
58:23
Yeah.
58:24
Yeah.
58:25
Now,
58:25
what
58:26
people
58:26
may
58:26
not
58:26
know,
58:27
Bob,
58:27
is
58:27
that
58:28
you
58:28
were
58:28
a
58:29
baseball
58:29
player.
58:30
You
58:30
signed
58:30
with
58:30
the
58:31
Houston
58:31
Astros.
58:32
You,
58:32
you
58:32
played
58:33
one
58:33
season
58:34
for
58:34
the
58:34
Appalachian
58:35
League,
58:35
the
58:35
Covington
58:36
Astros,
58:36
in
58:36
72.
58:38
People
58:39
may
58:39
not
58:40
know
58:40
this
58:40
as
58:40
well.
58:41
You
58:41
platooned
58:42
at
58:42
first
58:42
base
58:43
with
58:44
a
58:44
guy
58:44
by
58:44
the
58:45
name
58:45
of
58:45
Clark
58:45
Gillies.
58:47
Very
58:47
interesting
58:48
story.
58:50
You
58:51
know
58:51
what,
58:51
Phil?
58:51
It
58:51
is
58:52
a
58:52
very
58:52
interesting
58:53
story.
58:53
I
58:53
mean,
58:54
two
58:54
kids
58:55
from
58:55
Saskatchewan,
58:57
Canada,
58:58
right.
58:59
You
58:59
know,
59:00
I
59:00
was
59:00
born
59:01
and
59:01
raised
59:01
on
59:01
a
59:02
farm.
59:02
Clark
59:02
was
59:03
born
59:03
and
59:03
raised
59:04
in
59:04
Moose
59:04
Jaw,
59:05
Saskatchewan,
59:05
which
59:06
is
59:06
a
59:06
tiny
59:06
town
59:06
at
59:07
the
59:07
time.
59:08
And,
59:10
you
59:11
know,
59:11
somehow
59:13
he
59:13
ended
59:13
up
59:14
playing
59:14
for
59:14
the
59:14
Regina
59:15
Patch
59:15
in
59:15
the
59:15
Western
59:16
League,
59:16
and
59:16
I
59:16
played
59:17
for
59:17
the
59:17
Saskatoon
59:18
Blades
59:19
at
59:19
exactly
59:20
the
59:20
same
59:20
time.
59:21
We
59:21
got
59:22
drafted
59:22
in
59:22
the
59:22
same
59:23
year
59:24
and
59:26
we
59:26
played
59:26
our
59:27
first
59:27
game
59:27
as
59:27
a
59:27
New
59:28
York
59:28
Islander
59:28
on
59:29
the
59:29
same
59:29
day.
59:30
You
59:30
guys
59:31
are
59:31
really,
59:32
really
59:33
hooked
59:33
up
59:33
there.
59:34
If
59:35
you
59:35
look,
59:35
folks
59:36
in
59:36
Baseball
59:37
Reference,
59:38
which
59:38
I
59:38
use
59:38
a
59:39
lot
59:40
to
59:40
research
59:41
baseball
59:42
players,
59:42
Baseball
59:43
Reference,
59:44
you
59:44
will
59:44
find
59:45
Robert
59:45
Glenn
59:46
Bourne
59:46
there.
59:47
And
59:47
he's,
59:48
he's
59:48
in
59:48
Baseball
59:49
Reference,
59:50
so
59:51
you
59:51
can
59:51
check
59:51
that
59:51
out.
59:52
Folks,
59:52
of
59:53
course,
59:53
batted
59:53
left,
59:54
through
59:54
left.
59:55
Clark
59:56
Gillies
59:56
was
59:56
from
59:57
the
59:57
other
59:57
side.
59:58
And
59:58
how
59:58
else
59:59
are
59:59
you
59:59
related
1:00:00
to
1:00:00
the
1:00:00
late,
1:00:00
great
1:00:01
Clark
1:00:01
Gillies,
1:00:03
your
1:00:03
family,
1:00:04
Bob?
1:00:05
Well,
1:00:05
that's
1:00:06
an
1:00:06
amazing
1:00:06
story,
1:00:07
too,
1:00:07
Phil,
1:00:07
because
1:00:08
Clark
1:00:08
and
1:00:08
I
1:00:09
lived
1:00:09
right
1:00:09
beside
1:00:09
each
1:00:10
other
1:00:10
in
1:00:10
New
1:00:10
York
1:00:10
for
1:00:11
many,
1:00:11
many
1:00:11
years.
1:00:12
And
1:00:14
he
1:00:14
had
1:00:14
three
1:00:15
girls
1:00:15
and
1:00:15
I
1:00:15
had
1:00:16
two
1:00:16
boys,
1:00:16
and
1:00:16
I
1:00:17
saw
1:00:17
his
1:00:17
little
1:00:17
girls
1:00:18
grow
1:00:18
up,
1:00:20
and
1:00:20
he
1:00:20
saw
1:00:20
my
1:00:21
boys
1:00:21
grow
1:00:22
up,
1:00:22
and.
1:00:23
But
1:00:23
the
1:00:23
funny
1:00:24
thing
1:00:24
is,
1:00:24
the
1:00:24
two
1:00:24
younger
1:00:25
ones,
1:00:26
his
1:00:26
little
1:00:27
girl
1:00:28
Brianna,
1:00:29
and
1:00:29
my
1:00:30
son
1:00:30
Justin,
1:00:31
they
1:00:31
went
1:00:32
to
1:00:32
kindergarten
1:00:33
together,
1:00:33
they
1:00:33
went
1:00:33
to
1:00:34
school
1:00:34
together,
1:00:35
and
1:00:37
they
1:00:37
didn't
1:00:37
see
1:00:37
each
1:00:38
other
1:00:38
for
1:00:38
about
1:00:38
10
1:00:39
years.
1:00:39
My
1:00:40
son
1:00:40
was
1:00:40
playing
1:00:40
up
1:00:41
in
1:00:41
Alaska
1:00:41
in
1:00:42
the
1:00:43
ncaa,
1:00:44
and
1:00:45
Brianna
1:00:45
was
1:00:45
down
1:00:46
in
1:00:47
Florida
1:00:47
going
1:00:47
to
1:00:48
school.
1:00:48
And
1:00:48
when
1:00:49
they.
1:00:49
When
1:00:49
I
1:00:50
was
1:00:50
inducted
1:00:50
into
1:00:51
the
1:00:51
Islanders
1:00:52
Hockey
1:00:52
hall
1:00:52
of
1:00:52
Fame,
1:00:54
I
1:00:54
brought
1:00:54
Justin
1:00:55
and
1:00:55
my
1:00:55
son
1:00:56
Jeff
1:00:56
down
1:00:56
to
1:00:57
New
1:00:57
York,
1:00:57
and
1:00:57
of
1:00:58
course,
1:00:58
Brianna
1:00:58
and
1:00:59
the
1:00:59
whole
1:00:59
Gillies
1:00:59
family
1:01:00
was
1:01:00
there,
1:01:00
and
1:01:02
they
1:01:02
just
1:01:02
stared
1:01:03
at
1:01:03
each
1:01:03
other,
1:01:03
and
1:01:04
there
1:01:04
was
1:01:04
a
1:01:04
lot
1:01:04
of
1:01:04
electricity,
1:01:05
and
1:01:05
they
1:01:06
ended
1:01:06
up
1:01:06
getting
1:01:06
married.
1:01:07
Amazing.
1:01:08
Yeah.
1:01:08
What
1:01:09
a
1:01:09
story
1:01:09
that
1:01:10
is,
1:01:10
Bob.
1:01:10
Yeah.
1:01:11
So
1:01:12
the
1:01:12
relationship
1:01:13
with
1:01:13
Clark
1:01:13
Gillies
1:01:14
and
1:01:14
Bob
1:01:15
Bourne,
1:01:16
much
1:01:16
deeper
1:01:17
than
1:01:17
hockey.
1:01:17
We
1:01:18
got
1:01:18
baseball,
1:01:19
we
1:01:19
got
1:01:19
in
1:01:20
laws.
1:01:21
And.
1:01:22
Just
1:01:22
a
1:01:22
wonderful
1:01:23
story.
1:01:24
Now,
1:01:24
you
1:01:25
were
1:01:25
originally
1:01:25
drafted,
1:01:26
Bob,
1:01:26
by
1:01:26
the
1:01:27
Kansas
1:01:28
City
1:01:28
Scouts.
1:01:29
Now,
1:01:29
people
1:01:29
can
1:01:29
Google
1:01:30
that
1:01:30
team
1:01:31
and
1:01:32
check
1:01:32
that
1:01:32
out,
1:01:33
but
1:01:33
there
1:01:33
was
1:01:33
a
1:01:34
team
1:01:35
called
1:01:35
the
1:01:35
Kansas
1:01:36
City
1:01:36
Scouts
1:01:37
for
1:01:37
a
1:01:37
while,
1:01:37
the
1:01:37
National
1:01:38
Hockey
1:01:38
League.
1:01:39
But
1:01:39
you
1:01:39
never
1:01:39
played
1:01:40
for
1:01:40
them.
1:01:42
No,
1:01:43
Phil,
1:01:43
I
1:01:43
didn't.
1:01:43
You
1:01:44
know
1:01:44
what
1:01:44
happened
1:01:44
that
1:01:45
summer?
1:01:45
I
1:01:45
had
1:01:45
an
1:01:46
agent,
1:01:49
and
1:01:49
I.
1:01:50
I
1:01:50
kind
1:01:50
of
1:01:51
knew
1:01:51
what
1:01:51
I
1:01:51
was
1:01:52
worth
1:01:53
at
1:01:54
the
1:01:54
time.
1:01:54
I
1:01:54
mean,
1:01:54
we
1:01:55
didn't
1:01:55
have
1:01:55
the
1:01:55
access
1:01:56
to
1:01:56
all
1:01:56
the
1:01:56
salaries
1:01:57
and
1:01:57
everything
1:01:58
in
1:01:58
those
1:01:58
days.
1:01:58
But
1:01:59
I
1:02:00
kind
1:02:00
of,
1:02:01
you
1:02:01
know,
1:02:01
we
1:02:01
checked
1:02:02
around
1:02:02
and
1:02:02
he
1:02:02
checked
1:02:03
around
1:02:03
and.
1:02:05
And
1:02:05
I
1:02:05
just.
1:02:06
I
1:02:06
was
1:02:07
also
1:02:07
drafted
1:02:08
by
1:02:08
the
1:02:08
Chicago.
1:02:09
What
1:02:10
was
1:02:10
it
1:02:10
in
1:02:10
the
1:02:10
wha.
1:02:11
I
1:02:11
can't
1:02:11
remember
1:02:12
the
1:02:12
name.
1:02:12
Oh,
1:02:13
yeah,
1:02:13
I
1:02:13
don't
1:02:13
know
1:02:13
either,
1:02:14
Bob.
1:02:14
Yeah,
1:02:14
I
1:02:14
forget.
1:02:15
Yeah.
1:02:16
But
1:02:16
anyway,
1:02:17
long
1:02:17
story
1:02:17
short,
1:02:18
we
1:02:18
went
1:02:18
back
1:02:18
and
1:02:19
forth
1:02:19
with
1:02:19
both
1:02:19
teams,
1:02:20
and
1:02:23
a
1:02:23
week
1:02:24
before
1:02:24
the
1:02:25
NHL
1:02:25
training
1:02:26
camp
1:02:27
started,
1:02:29
I
1:02:29
went
1:02:29
into
1:02:30
Saskatoon,
1:02:30
Saskatchewan,
1:02:31
and
1:02:31
that's
1:02:32
where
1:02:32
the
1:02:32
Western
1:02:32
League
1:02:33
offices
1:02:34
were.
1:02:35
And
1:02:35
I.
1:02:36
I
1:02:36
knew
1:02:37
the
1:02:37
president
1:02:38
quite
1:02:38
well
1:02:38
because
1:02:38
he
1:02:39
was
1:02:39
from
1:02:39
my
1:02:39
hometown
1:02:40
of
1:02:40
Kindnessley,
1:02:40
Saskatchewan.
1:02:42
So
1:02:42
I
1:02:42
went
1:02:42
in
1:02:43
and
1:02:45
I
1:02:45
told
1:02:45
him
1:02:46
what
1:02:46
was
1:02:46
going
1:02:46
on,
1:02:47
and
1:02:47
camp
1:02:48
was
1:02:48
starting
1:02:49
right
1:02:49
away.
1:02:49
I
1:02:49
was
1:02:49
starting
1:02:50
to
1:02:50
panic.
1:02:51
And
1:02:51
he
1:02:52
says,
1:02:52
you
1:02:53
don't
1:02:53
want
1:02:53
to
1:02:53
play
1:02:53
in
1:02:53
Kansas
1:02:54
City.
1:02:54
And
1:02:54
I
1:02:54
said,
1:02:55
no,
1:02:55
I
1:02:55
don't.
1:02:56
And
1:02:56
he
1:02:57
says,
1:02:57
where
1:02:57
do
1:02:57
you.
1:02:57
Where
1:02:58
do
1:02:58
you
1:02:58
want
1:02:58
to
1:02:58
play?
1:02:59
And
1:02:59
I
1:02:59
says,
1:02:59
I
1:02:59
want
1:03:00
to
1:03:00
play
1:03:00
with
1:03:00
the
1:03:00
New
1:03:00
York
1:03:00
Islanders.
1:03:02
And
1:03:02
he
1:03:02
said,
1:03:02
well,
1:03:03
why?
1:03:03
And
1:03:03
I
1:03:04
said,
1:03:04
well,
1:03:04
number
1:03:04
one,
1:03:05
Clark
1:03:06
Gilliams
1:03:06
was
1:03:06
drafted
1:03:07
there.
1:03:09
My.
1:03:09
My
1:03:10
best
1:03:10
friend
1:03:10
growing
1:03:11
up
1:03:11
was
1:03:11
Dave
1:03:11
Lewis,
1:03:12
who.
1:03:14
Who
1:03:14
made
1:03:14
the
1:03:14
honors
1:03:15
As
1:03:15
a
1:03:15
rookie,
1:03:17
I
1:03:17
knew.
1:03:17
I
1:03:18
knew
1:03:18
Bobby
1:03:18
Nicen,
1:03:19
I
1:03:19
knew
1:03:20
Lauren
1:03:20
Henning,
1:03:21
I
1:03:21
knew
1:03:21
Gary
1:03:22
Howard
1:03:22
from
1:03:23
the
1:03:23
Western
1:03:24
League.
1:03:24
And
1:03:25
so
1:03:25
I
1:03:25
just
1:03:25
wanted
1:03:26
to
1:03:26
play
1:03:26
with
1:03:26
the
1:03:26
honors.
1:03:27
And
1:03:27
I
1:03:27
kind
1:03:28
of
1:03:28
knew,
1:03:28
I
1:03:28
kind
1:03:29
of
1:03:29
knew
1:03:29
that
1:03:29
they
1:03:30
weren't
1:03:30
very
1:03:30
strong,
1:03:30
et
1:03:31
cetera,
1:03:31
ice.
1:03:32
So
1:03:32
I
1:03:32
said,
1:03:33
yeah,
1:03:33
that's
1:03:33
where
1:03:33
I
1:03:33
want
1:03:34
to
1:03:34
play.
1:03:34
So
1:03:34
he
1:03:34
said,
1:03:35
give
1:03:35
me,
1:03:35
give
1:03:35
me
1:03:35
a
1:03:36
little
1:03:36
bit
1:03:36
vote
1:03:37
and
1:03:37
sit
1:03:37
in
1:03:37
my.
1:03:37
In
1:03:38
the
1:03:38
front
1:03:38
office.
1:03:39
So
1:03:39
I
1:03:39
went
1:03:39
out
1:03:40
and
1:03:40
half
1:03:41
an
1:03:41
hour
1:03:41
later
1:03:42
I
1:03:42
walked
1:03:42
in,
1:03:43
I'd
1:03:44
been
1:03:44
traded
1:03:44
and
1:03:45
I
1:03:45
got
1:03:45
the
1:03:45
contract
1:03:46
I
1:03:46
wanted
1:03:46
from
1:03:46
Bill
1:03:47
Tory.
1:03:47
Amazing.
1:03:48
What
1:03:49
a
1:03:49
great
1:03:49
story
1:03:49
that
1:03:50
is,
1:03:50
Bob.
1:03:50
Yeah.
1:03:51
And
1:03:51
people
1:03:52
may
1:03:52
not
1:03:52
know
1:03:53
Bob
1:03:53
Bourne
1:03:54
was
1:03:54
traded
1:03:54
to
1:03:54
the
1:03:55
Islanders.
1:03:56
Only
1:03:56
old
1:03:57
time
1:03:58
Islander
1:03:58
fans
1:03:59
would
1:03:59
know
1:03:59
this
1:03:59
guy.
1:04:01
And
1:04:01
I
1:04:01
think
1:04:01
it's
1:04:01
one
1:04:01
of
1:04:02
the
1:04:02
great
1:04:02
hockey
1:04:02
names
1:04:03
of
1:04:03
all
1:04:03
time.
1:04:04
Bart
1:04:04
Crashley
1:04:05
was
1:04:06
the
1:04:06
guy
1:04:06
who.
1:04:09
What
1:04:09
a
1:04:10
great
1:04:10
hockey
1:04:10
name
1:04:11
that
1:04:11
is,
1:04:11
Bob.
1:04:11
I'll
1:04:12
tell
1:04:12
you.
1:04:13
Yeah,
1:04:14
it
1:04:14
sure
1:04:14
is.
1:04:15
And
1:04:16
also
1:04:17
they
1:04:17
got
1:04:18
the
1:04:18
rights
1:04:18
to
1:04:18
Larry
1:04:19
Horning,
1:04:19
who
1:04:19
was
1:04:20
playing
1:04:20
with
1:04:20
the
1:04:20
Winnipeg
1:04:21
jets
1:04:21
in
1:04:21
the
1:04:21
WHA
1:04:22
at
1:04:22
the
1:04:22
time.
1:04:23
So,
1:04:24
you
1:04:24
know,
1:04:25
they
1:04:25
got
1:04:25
a
1:04:25
good
1:04:25
deal.
1:04:26
And
1:04:26
I
1:04:26
think
1:04:26
the
1:04:26
Islanders
1:04:27
got
1:04:27
a
1:04:27
good
1:04:27
deal.
1:04:28
I
1:04:28
think
1:04:28
so
1:04:28
too.
1:04:29
You
1:04:30
know,
1:04:30
spent
1:04:31
the
1:04:31
next
1:04:31
10
1:04:31
seasons
1:04:32
on
1:04:32
the
1:04:32
island.
1:04:33
Here
1:04:34
you
1:04:35
scored
1:04:35
at
1:04:35
least
1:04:35
30
1:04:36
goals
1:04:36
three
1:04:36
times
1:04:37
in
1:04:37
between
1:04:38
20
1:04:38
and
1:04:39
30
1:04:39
for
1:04:39
three
1:04:40
other
1:04:40
seasons.
1:04:41
They
1:04:41
did
1:04:41
get
1:04:42
a
1:04:42
good
1:04:42
deal.
1:04:44
I
1:04:44
want
1:04:44
to
1:04:44
ask
1:04:44
you
1:04:45
about
1:04:45
Clark
1:04:45
Gillies
1:04:46
too,
1:04:46
Bob.
1:04:48
He
1:04:49
was
1:04:49
known
1:04:49
as
1:04:50
an
1:04:50
enforcer
1:04:51
at
1:04:51
times.
1:04:52
He
1:04:52
was
1:04:52
a
1:04:53
great
1:04:53
hockey
1:04:53
player.
1:04:55
His
1:04:55
game
1:04:56
was
1:04:56
not
1:04:56
all
1:04:57
rough
1:04:57
and
1:04:58
tumble,
1:04:58
but
1:04:59
when
1:04:59
he
1:05:00
had
1:05:00
to,
1:05:01
and
1:05:01
he
1:05:01
protected
1:05:02
his
1:05:02
teammates,
1:05:03
like
1:05:03
Mike
1:05:03
Bossi.
1:05:04
He
1:05:04
wasn't
1:05:05
afraid
1:05:05
to
1:05:05
mix
1:05:06
it
1:05:06
up.
1:05:08
No,
1:05:10
you
1:05:10
know,
1:05:10
Clarky,
1:05:11
Clarky
1:05:11
and
1:05:12
I,
1:05:12
and
1:05:13
actually
1:05:13
we
1:05:13
played
1:05:14
12
1:05:14
years
1:05:14
in
1:05:14
New
1:05:15
York
1:05:15
with
1:05:15
the
1:05:15
Islanders,
1:05:16
but
1:05:17
he
1:05:18
and
1:05:18
I
1:05:18
drove
1:05:18
to
1:05:19
practice
1:05:19
every
1:05:19
day.
1:05:21
We
1:05:21
drove
1:05:22
to
1:05:22
the
1:05:22
games
1:05:23
every
1:05:23
day.
1:05:25
We
1:05:25
did
1:05:25
this
1:05:26
for
1:05:26
years
1:05:26
and
1:05:26
years.
1:05:27
And
1:05:28
in
1:05:28
the
1:05:28
playoffs
1:05:28
we
1:05:29
drove
1:05:29
together.
1:05:30
And
1:05:31
I
1:05:31
got.
1:05:31
Obviously
1:05:32
got
1:05:32
to
1:05:32
know
1:05:32
Clark
1:05:33
pretty
1:05:33
well
1:05:33
because
1:05:34
of
1:05:34
the
1:05:34
baseball
1:05:35
affiliation
1:05:35
and
1:05:36
everything,
1:05:36
but
1:05:38
he,
1:05:38
Clarky
1:05:39
did
1:05:39
not.
1:05:40
He
1:05:40
did
1:05:40
not
1:05:41
like
1:05:41
to
1:05:41
fight,
1:05:41
Phil.
1:05:42
He
1:05:42
did
1:05:42
not.
1:05:42
He
1:05:43
didn't
1:05:43
like
1:05:43
it.
1:05:44
He.
1:05:45
You
1:05:45
know
1:05:45
why?
1:05:45
Because
1:05:46
he
1:05:46
hurt
1:05:46
people
1:05:46
when
1:05:47
he
1:05:47
fought
1:05:48
and
1:05:49
he
1:05:49
didn't
1:05:49
like
1:05:50
to
1:05:50
hurt
1:05:50
people.
1:05:51
And
1:05:51
I
1:05:51
think,
1:05:51
I
1:05:52
think
1:05:52
Clark
1:05:52
only
1:05:53
fought
1:05:53
maybe
1:05:53
four
1:05:54
or
1:05:54
five
1:05:54
times
1:05:54
a
1:05:55
year.
1:05:55
You
1:05:55
know,
1:05:55
he
1:05:55
wasn't,
1:05:56
he
1:05:56
wasn't
1:05:57
a
1:05:57
brawler
1:05:57
or
1:05:57
anything
1:05:58
like
1:05:58
that.
1:05:59
He
1:06:00
was.
1:06:01
You
1:06:01
know,
1:06:02
we
1:06:03
had
1:06:03
so
1:06:03
many
1:06:03
brawls
1:06:04
with
1:06:04
Philadelphia
1:06:05
in
1:06:05
those
1:06:05
days,
1:06:06
and
1:06:07
Clark
1:06:07
was
1:06:07
a
1:06:07
huge
1:06:08
presence
1:06:08
then.
1:06:08
And
1:06:09
he
1:06:09
just
1:06:09
said,
1:06:10
we're
1:06:10
not
1:06:11
taking
1:06:11
this.
1:06:11
And
1:06:11
he
1:06:12
stood
1:06:12
up,
1:06:13
stood
1:06:13
up
1:06:13
for
1:06:13
all
1:06:13
his
1:06:14
teammates,
1:06:14
and
1:06:14
he
1:06:14
certainly
1:06:15
stood
1:06:15
up
1:06:15
for
1:06:15
me.
1:06:16
I
1:06:16
know
1:06:16
that
1:06:17
I
1:06:17
remember
1:06:18
a
1:06:18
story
1:06:18
he
1:06:19
told.
1:06:19
I've
1:06:20
had
1:06:20
Clark
1:06:20
on
1:06:20
the
1:06:21
show
1:06:21
in
1:06:21
the
1:06:21
past,
1:06:23
God
1:06:23
rest
1:06:23
his
1:06:23
soul.
1:06:24
And
1:06:25
he
1:06:26
got
1:06:26
into
1:06:26
it
1:06:26
with
1:06:27
Ed
1:06:27
Hospodar
1:06:28
on
1:06:28
the
1:06:29
Flyers,
1:06:29
who
1:06:29
was
1:06:29
a
1:06:29
tough
1:06:30
guy
1:06:30
on
1:06:31
those
1:06:31
Broad
1:06:31
street
1:06:32
bully
1:06:32
teams.
1:06:33
And
1:06:33
he
1:06:34
went
1:06:34
to
1:06:34
see
1:06:34
him
1:06:35
in
1:06:35
the
1:06:35
hospital,
1:06:36
and
1:06:36
he
1:06:36
went
1:06:36
in
1:06:37
and
1:06:37
said
1:06:37
to
1:06:37
Ed,
1:06:38
hey,
1:06:39
I'm
1:06:39
looking
1:06:39
for
1:06:40
the
1:06:40
guy
1:06:40
who
1:06:40
used
1:06:41
to
1:06:41
look
1:06:41
like
1:06:41
Ed
1:06:41
Hospador.
1:06:45
Yup,
1:06:45
that's
1:06:46
a
1:06:46
true
1:06:46
story.
1:06:47
Yeah,
1:06:48
he
1:06:48
messed
1:06:49
him
1:06:49
up.
1:06:51
Actually,
1:06:51
Phil,
1:06:52
that
1:06:53
fight
1:06:53
happened
1:06:53
in
1:06:54
New
1:06:54
York
1:06:54
when.
1:06:54
Hospital.
1:06:55
I
1:06:55
played
1:06:55
with
1:06:55
the
1:06:56
Rangers.
1:06:57
Oh,
1:06:57
I
1:06:58
didn't
1:06:58
know
1:06:58
that.
1:06:58
I
1:06:58
thought
1:06:59
it
1:06:59
was
1:06:59
with
1:06:59
Philadelphia.
1:07:00
All
1:07:00
right,
1:07:00
great.
1:07:01
No,
1:07:01
no,
1:07:02
when
1:07:02
he
1:07:02
played
1:07:02
with
1:07:03
the
1:07:03
Rangers
1:07:03
and
1:07:04
he
1:07:04
did
1:07:04
something
1:07:04
to
1:07:05
somebody
1:07:05
and
1:07:05
Clarky
1:07:06
just
1:07:06
lost
1:07:06
his
1:07:07
mind.
1:07:07
And
1:07:08
it
1:07:08
was
1:07:09
one
1:07:09
punch
1:07:09
and
1:07:10
he
1:07:10
broke
1:07:10
his
1:07:10
cheek.
1:07:11
He
1:07:11
broke
1:07:11
his
1:07:11
nose.
1:07:12
He
1:07:12
broke
1:07:13
his
1:07:13
face.
1:07:13
Yeah.
1:07:14
And
1:07:15
he
1:07:15
went
1:07:15
to
1:07:16
the
1:07:16
hospital
1:07:16
the
1:07:17
next
1:07:17
morning.
1:07:17
And
1:07:18
that's
1:07:18
what
1:07:19
he
1:07:19
said.
1:07:19
Yeah.
1:07:20
That's
1:07:21
a
1:07:21
great
1:07:21
story.
1:07:22
Thanks
1:07:22
for
1:07:22
setting
1:07:23
me
1:07:23
straight
1:07:23
on
1:07:23
that
1:07:23
about
1:07:24
the
1:07:24
Rangers,
1:07:24
Bob.
1:07:25
I
1:07:25
did
1:07:25
not
1:07:26
know
1:07:26
that.
1:07:27
Now,
1:07:27
I
1:07:28
wanted
1:07:28
to
1:07:28
ask
1:07:29
you,
1:07:30
you
1:07:30
were
1:07:30
known
1:07:31
as
1:07:31
a
1:07:32
real
1:07:32
fast,
1:07:32
a
1:07:33
real
1:07:33
good
1:07:33
skater.
1:07:35
To
1:07:35
whom
1:07:36
or
1:07:36
to
1:07:36
what
1:07:36
do
1:07:37
you
1:07:37
owe
1:07:37
that
1:07:38
proficiency
1:07:40
with
1:07:40
skating?
1:07:42
Well,
1:07:42
that's
1:07:43
an
1:07:43
easy
1:07:43
answer.
1:07:44
I
1:07:44
grew
1:07:44
up
1:07:45
on
1:07:45
a
1:07:45
farm,
1:07:46
and
1:07:47
we
1:07:47
had
1:07:47
a
1:07:47
little
1:07:48
town
1:07:48
two
1:07:48
miles
1:07:49
away
1:07:49
from
1:07:49
us.
1:07:50
There
1:07:50
was,
1:07:50
you
1:07:51
know,
1:07:51
just
1:07:52
a
1:07:52
few
1:07:52
hundred
1:07:52
people
1:07:53
living
1:07:53
there,
1:07:54
but
1:07:54
the
1:07:54
dads
1:07:55
got
1:07:55
together
1:07:56
one
1:07:58
summer
1:07:58
and
1:07:58
they
1:07:59
built
1:08:00
an
1:08:00
overhead
1:08:00
rink.
1:08:01
It
1:08:01
was
1:08:02
covered.
1:08:02
I
1:08:03
mean,
1:08:03
it
1:08:03
was
1:08:03
cold
1:08:04
as
1:08:04
hell.
1:08:04
But.
1:08:06
But.
1:08:07
But
1:08:09
my
1:08:09
brother
1:08:10
and
1:08:10
I
1:08:11
used
1:08:11
to
1:08:11
go
1:08:12
skating
1:08:12
there
1:08:13
every
1:08:13
day
1:08:14
for
1:08:15
probably
1:08:15
three
1:08:15
or
1:08:15
four
1:08:16
hours
1:08:16
after
1:08:16
school.
1:08:18
And
1:08:19
we
1:08:19
skated
1:08:20
and
1:08:20
skated
1:08:21
and
1:08:21
skated.
1:08:22
And
1:08:22
then.
1:08:24
Some
1:08:24
people
1:08:24
laugh
1:08:25
at
1:08:25
this,
1:08:25
but
1:08:25
I
1:08:25
took
1:08:26
figure
1:08:26
skating
1:08:27
four
1:08:27
years.
1:08:28
Yeah,
1:08:29
no,
1:08:29
I
1:08:29
can
1:08:29
see.
1:08:30
I
1:08:30
can
1:08:30
see
1:08:30
where
1:08:30
that
1:08:30
would
1:08:31
help.
1:08:32
Well,
1:08:32
it
1:08:33
did.
1:08:33
It
1:08:33
really
1:08:33
helped
1:08:34
your
1:08:34
edges
1:08:34
and
1:08:35
your
1:08:35
balance
1:08:36
and,
1:08:37
you
1:08:37
know,
1:08:38
turning
1:08:38
your
1:08:38
body
1:08:39
the
1:08:39
right
1:08:39
way
1:08:39
and
1:08:40
stuff.
1:08:40
So
1:08:41
that's
1:08:42
what
1:08:42
I.
1:08:43
That's.
1:08:44
That's
1:08:44
when
1:08:44
I
1:08:44
became
1:08:45
a
1:08:45
skater.
1:08:46
Okay.
1:08:47
Now,
1:08:48
who
1:08:48
are
1:08:48
some
1:08:48
of
1:08:49
the
1:08:49
great
1:08:49
players
1:08:49
who
1:08:50
you
1:08:50
centered
1:08:50
for,
1:08:50
Bob?
1:08:55
Well,
1:08:55
you
1:08:56
know,
1:08:57
the
1:08:58
greatest
1:08:58
times
1:08:59
in
1:08:59
my
1:08:59
career
1:09:00
with
1:09:00
the
1:09:01
Islanders,
1:09:01
I
1:09:02
end
1:09:02
up
1:09:02
playing
1:09:03
left
1:09:03
wing.
1:09:04
And
1:09:05
I
1:09:05
had
1:09:05
the
1:09:05
privilege
1:09:06
of
1:09:06
playing
1:09:06
with
1:09:07
Butchie
1:09:07
Goring
1:09:08
for.
1:09:08
For
1:09:08
a
1:09:09
lot
1:09:09
of
1:09:09
years
1:09:10
after
1:09:10
he
1:09:10
got
1:09:10
traded
1:09:11
to
1:09:11
us
1:09:11
from
1:09:11
the
1:09:12
Kings.
1:09:13
And
1:09:14
he
1:09:14
and
1:09:14
I
1:09:15
just
1:09:15
hit
1:09:15
it
1:09:15
off,
1:09:18
and
1:09:18
we
1:09:19
killed
1:09:19
a
1:09:19
lot
1:09:19
of
1:09:20
teams
1:09:20
in
1:09:20
the
1:09:20
playoffs.
1:09:21
And,
1:09:21
you
1:09:22
know,
1:09:22
every
1:09:22
once
1:09:22
in
1:09:23
a
1:09:23
while,
1:09:23
if
1:09:23
Clarkey
1:09:24
was
1:09:24
hurt,
1:09:24
I'd
1:09:24
play
1:09:25
left
1:09:25
wing
1:09:25
with
1:09:25
Brian
1:09:26
Tracci
1:09:26
and
1:09:26
Mike
1:09:27
Bossi,
1:09:27
and
1:09:28
that
1:09:28
wasn't
1:09:29
a
1:09:29
bad
1:09:29
line
1:09:29
to
1:09:29
play
1:09:30
on.
1:09:30
No.
1:09:31
Yeah.
1:09:33
I
1:09:33
was
1:09:33
very
1:09:34
blessed
1:09:34
to
1:09:34
have
1:09:35
some
1:09:35
center
1:09:35
iceman
1:09:36
that
1:09:36
were
1:09:36
just
1:09:36
brilliant
1:09:37
people,
1:09:37
brilliant
1:09:38
players.
1:09:39
And
1:09:39
then
1:09:39
I
1:09:39
ended
1:09:40
up
1:09:40
playing
1:09:40
with
1:09:40
Brent
1:09:40
Sutter
1:09:41
for
1:09:41
two
1:09:41
or
1:09:41
three
1:09:41
years,
1:09:42
and
1:09:43
he
1:09:43
was
1:09:43
brilliant.
1:09:46
So
1:09:46
I
1:09:46
was
1:09:47
very
1:09:47
fortunate.
1:09:50
You
1:09:50
know,
1:09:50
when
1:09:50
I
1:09:50
was
1:09:50
playing
1:09:51
center
1:09:51
in
1:09:52
the
1:09:52
early
1:09:52
days,
1:09:53
I
1:09:54
was
1:09:54
playing
1:09:54
with
1:09:54
Billy
1:09:55
Harris.
1:09:55
Billy
1:09:56
would
1:09:56
play
1:09:56
on
1:09:56
the
1:09:57
right
1:09:57
side,
1:09:58
and
1:09:58
I
1:09:59
played
1:09:59
with
1:09:59
JP
1:09:59
Parisi
1:10:00
for
1:10:00
a
1:10:00
couple
1:10:01
years.
1:10:01
And
1:10:01
he
1:10:01
was.
1:10:02
He
1:10:02
was
1:10:02
a
1:10:02
great
1:10:02
player.
1:10:03
Even
1:10:03
though
1:10:03
he
1:10:04
was
1:10:04
at
1:10:04
the
1:10:04
end
1:10:04
of
1:10:04
his
1:10:04
career,
1:10:05
I
1:10:05
really
1:10:06
enjoyed
1:10:06
playing.
1:10:07
J.P.
1:10:07
taught
1:10:08
me
1:10:08
an
1:10:08
awful
1:10:08
lot
1:10:09
about
1:10:09
playing
1:10:09
in
1:10:09
the
1:10:10
NHL
1:10:11
because
1:10:11
he
1:10:11
was,
1:10:12
you
1:10:12
know,
1:10:12
he
1:10:12
was
1:10:12
in
1:10:12
his
1:10:12
mid-30s
1:10:13
at
1:10:13
the
1:10:13
time,
1:10:14
and
1:10:14
he
1:10:14
was
1:10:14
ready
1:10:15
to
1:10:15
retire.
1:10:18
You
1:10:18
know,
1:10:18
I
1:10:19
just.
1:10:20
I'll
1:10:20
never
1:10:20
forget
1:10:21
something
1:10:21
Bill
1:10:22
Torrey
1:10:22
told
1:10:22
me
1:10:23
once.
1:10:24
I
1:10:24
was
1:10:25
a
1:10:25
free
1:10:25
agent
1:10:25
at
1:10:26
the
1:10:26
time.
1:10:27
I
1:10:27
think
1:10:27
I
1:10:27
played
1:10:28
about
1:10:28
eight
1:10:28
years,
1:10:28
and
1:10:29
my
1:10:29
contract
1:10:30
had
1:10:30
run
1:10:30
out
1:10:31
and
1:10:31
I
1:10:32
didn't
1:10:32
have
1:10:32
an
1:10:32
agent.
1:10:33
So
1:10:33
it
1:10:33
was
1:10:34
just
1:10:34
me
1:10:34
and
1:10:34
Bill.
1:10:35
And
1:10:36
I
1:10:36
knew
1:10:37
where
1:10:37
I
1:10:37
stood
1:10:38
in
1:10:38
the
1:10:38
Islanders,
1:10:38
because,
1:10:40
you
1:10:40
know,
1:10:40
my
1:10:40
best
1:10:41
moments
1:10:41
were
1:10:41
in
1:10:41
the
1:10:41
playoffs.
1:10:43
I
1:10:44
had
1:10:44
some
1:10:44
great
1:10:44
playoffs.
1:10:45
So
1:10:46
I
1:10:46
knew
1:10:46
where
1:10:46
I
1:10:46
stood,
1:10:47
and
1:10:47
I
1:10:48
held
1:10:48
firm,
1:10:49
and
1:10:49
I
1:10:49
didn't
1:10:49
go
1:10:50
to
1:10:50
training
1:10:50
camp.
1:10:51
And
1:10:52
it
1:10:52
was
1:10:53
about
1:10:53
a
1:10:53
month
1:10:54
into
1:10:54
it,
1:10:55
and
1:10:55
it
1:10:55
was
1:10:55
two
1:10:55
days
1:10:56
before
1:10:56
the
1:10:56
regular
1:10:57
season
1:10:58
started.
1:10:59
And
1:10:59
Mr.
1:11:00
Tory
1:11:00
called
1:11:01
me
1:11:01
at
1:11:01
home
1:11:01
one
1:11:01
night.
1:11:02
He
1:11:02
says,
1:11:02
okay,
1:11:03
we
1:11:03
got
1:11:03
a
1:11:03
deal.
1:11:05
But
1:11:05
he
1:11:05
always
1:11:06
told
1:11:06
me,
1:11:07
he
1:11:07
said.
1:11:08
He
1:11:08
said
1:11:09
borny.
1:11:09
He
1:11:10
said,
1:11:10
don't
1:11:11
forget
1:11:11
the
1:11:12
players
1:11:12
that
1:11:12
you
1:11:13
play
1:11:13
with.
1:11:14
And
1:11:14
that
1:11:15
made
1:11:15
an
1:11:15
impact
1:11:15
on
1:11:16
me.
1:11:16
Like,
1:11:16
you
1:11:16
know,
1:11:17
like,
1:11:18
I
1:11:18
played
1:11:18
on
1:11:19
a
1:11:19
great
1:11:19
team,
1:11:20
and
1:11:22
we
1:11:22
won
1:11:22
and
1:11:23
we
1:11:23
won,
1:11:23
and
1:11:24
we
1:11:24
were
1:11:24
very,
1:11:25
very
1:11:25
concentrated
1:11:26
and
1:11:27
dedicated,
1:11:28
and
1:11:28
that
1:11:29
made
1:11:29
a
1:11:29
difference.
1:11:29
And
1:11:30
I
1:11:30
didn't
1:11:30
want
1:11:30
to
1:11:31
go
1:11:31
anywhere
1:11:31
else.
1:11:31
I
1:11:32
just
1:11:32
wanted
1:11:32
to
1:11:32
play
1:11:32
in
1:11:32
New
1:11:32
York.
1:11:33
I.
1:11:33
I
1:11:33
love
1:11:33
the
1:11:34
island,
1:11:35
and
1:11:36
that's
1:11:36
why
1:11:36
I
1:11:37
re
1:11:37
signed.
1:11:38
Yeah.
1:11:39
We're
1:11:39
talking
1:11:39
to
1:11:39
Bob
1:11:40
Bourne
1:11:40
tonight,
1:11:41
The
1:11:41
great
1:11:41
number
1:11:42
14
1:11:42
of
1:11:42
the
1:11:43
new
1:11:43
York
1:11:43
Islanders,
1:11:44
and
1:11:46
as
1:11:46
you
1:11:46
mentioned,
1:11:47
Bob
1:11:48
and
1:11:49
the
1:11:49
architect,
1:11:50
Mr.
1:11:50
Torrey,
1:11:51
told
1:11:51
you,
1:11:51
don't
1:11:51
forget
1:11:52
your
1:11:52
teammates.
1:11:53
Let's
1:11:53
talk
1:11:54
about
1:11:54
some
1:11:54
of
1:11:54
the
1:11:55
other
1:11:56
lesser
1:11:57
known,
1:11:57
we'll
1:11:58
say,
1:11:58
role
1:11:59
players
1:11:59
on
1:11:59
those
1:12:00
great
1:12:00
Islander
1:12:01
teams
1:12:01
that
1:12:01
weren't
1:12:02
hall
1:12:02
of
1:12:02
Famers,
1:12:03
but
1:12:04
you
1:12:04
really
1:12:04
couldn't
1:12:05
do
1:12:05
without
1:12:05
a
1:12:06
guy
1:12:06
like
1:12:06
Stefan
1:12:07
Pearson,
1:12:08
guys
1:12:08
like
1:12:09
that.
1:12:11
Well,
1:12:11
I'm
1:12:11
going
1:12:11
to
1:12:11
tell
1:12:12
you
1:12:12
right
1:12:12
now,
1:12:12
and
1:12:12
I
1:12:13
tell
1:12:13
everybody
1:12:14
this,
1:12:14
and
1:12:14
nobody
1:12:15
remembers
1:12:16
them,
1:12:17
but
1:12:17
there
1:12:17
were
1:12:18
three
1:12:18
Swedish
1:12:19
players
1:12:19
that
1:12:19
played
1:12:19
on
1:12:20
our
1:12:20
team.
1:12:20
There
1:12:20
was
1:12:20
Stefan
1:12:21
Parson,
1:12:22
there
1:12:22
was
1:12:22
Thomas
1:12:23
Johnson,
1:12:23
and
1:12:24
there
1:12:24
was
1:12:24
Anders
1:12:24
Keller,
1:12:25
who
1:12:25
played
1:12:25
on
1:12:26
our
1:12:26
right
1:12:27
wing
1:12:27
with
1:12:27
Butch
1:12:28
Goring
1:12:28
and
1:12:28
myself.
1:12:29
But
1:12:29
I'll
1:12:30
tell
1:12:30
you
1:12:30
what,
1:12:30
Tommy
1:12:31
Johnson
1:12:32
and
1:12:33
Stefan
1:12:33
Pearson
1:12:34
played
1:12:34
right
1:12:35
defense.
1:12:37
And
1:12:38
one
1:12:38
of
1:12:38
the
1:12:38
reasons
1:12:39
that
1:12:40
I
1:12:40
got
1:12:40
to
1:12:41
be
1:12:41
a
1:12:41
better
1:12:41
Player
1:12:42
and
1:12:42
a
1:12:43
lot
1:12:43
of
1:12:43
the
1:12:43
other
1:12:43
guys,
1:12:44
like
1:12:44
a
1:12:44
John
1:12:44
Tennelli
1:12:45
or
1:12:45
a
1:12:45
Bobby
1:12:45
Nice.
1:12:46
Because
1:12:47
we
1:12:47
had
1:12:47
to
1:12:47
play
1:12:48
against.
1:12:49
In
1:12:49
practice,
1:12:49
we
1:12:50
had
1:12:50
to
1:12:50
play
1:12:50
against
1:12:50
Stefan
1:12:51
and
1:12:51
Tommy
1:12:52
and
1:12:54
Dave
1:12:54
Longueuin
1:12:55
and
1:12:55
Gordy
1:12:56
Lane,
1:12:56
and
1:12:56
of
1:12:56
course,
1:12:56
Denny
1:12:57
Potman
1:12:58
and
1:13:00
Kenny
1:13:00
Morrow.
1:13:01
We
1:13:01
played
1:13:02
against
1:13:02
the
1:13:02
best
1:13:02
defense
1:13:03
in
1:13:03
the
1:13:03
league
1:13:04
in
1:13:04
practice
1:13:04
every
1:13:05
day.
1:13:05
So
1:13:05
that
1:13:06
made
1:13:06
us
1:13:06
better.
1:13:07
That
1:13:07
made
1:13:08
us
1:13:08
better
1:13:08
players,
1:13:09
you
1:13:09
know,
1:13:09
so,
1:13:10
like
1:13:10
the
1:13:10
unsung
1:13:11
heroes,
1:13:12
like
1:13:12
John
1:13:12
Tenelli
1:13:13
and
1:13:13
Bobby
1:13:14
Nystrom
1:13:14
and
1:13:15
Anders
1:13:16
Keller
1:13:17
and
1:13:17
like
1:13:17
you
1:13:17
said,
1:13:18
Thomas
1:13:18
and
1:13:18
Stefan
1:13:19
and,
1:13:20
you
1:13:20
know,
1:13:20
like
1:13:21
a
1:13:21
Billy
1:13:21
Carroll
1:13:22
and
1:13:22
Dwayne
1:13:23
Sutter,
1:13:23
and
1:13:24
there's
1:13:24
so
1:13:24
many
1:13:24
guys
1:13:25
who
1:13:25
are
1:13:25
unsung
1:13:26
heroes,
1:13:27
and
1:13:27
they
1:13:27
all
1:13:28
pitched
1:13:28
in
1:13:28
with
1:13:28
overtime
1:13:29
goals.
1:13:29
They
1:13:30
all
1:13:30
pitched
1:13:30
in
1:13:31
the
1:13:31
playoffs.
1:13:33
We
1:13:33
had,
1:13:34
you
1:13:34
know,
1:13:34
we
1:13:35
had
1:13:35
four
1:13:35
lines
1:13:36
that
1:13:36
could
1:13:36
play,
1:13:37
three
1:13:37
lines
1:13:38
that
1:13:38
could
1:13:38
score
1:13:38
very
1:13:39
well,
1:13:39
like
1:13:40
Wayne
1:13:40
Merrick
1:13:41
and
1:13:41
Tonali.
1:13:41
Nice.
1:13:42
And
1:13:42
they
1:13:42
scored
1:13:42
all
1:13:43
the
1:13:43
time.
1:13:44
Myself
1:13:44
and
1:13:44
Butchie
1:13:45
and
1:13:45
Andrew
1:13:45
score
1:13:46
and
1:13:46
of
1:13:46
course,
1:13:46
Strachan
1:13:47
Boss.
1:13:49
But
1:13:49
then
1:13:49
on
1:13:49
the
1:13:49
back
1:13:50
end,
1:13:50
on
1:13:50
the
1:13:50
fourth
1:13:50
line,
1:13:51
we
1:13:51
had
1:13:51
Billy
1:13:51
Carroll.
1:13:52
He
1:13:52
had
1:13:52
an
1:13:53
assortment
1:13:53
of
1:13:53
wingers
1:13:54
all
1:13:54
the
1:13:54
time,
1:13:55
but,
1:13:57
yeah,
1:13:57
we
1:13:57
just
1:13:58
had
1:13:58
a
1:13:58
really
1:13:58
strong
1:13:59
forward
1:13:59
group
1:13:59
and
1:14:00
obviously
1:14:00
a
1:14:00
really
1:14:01
strong
1:14:01
defensive
1:14:02
group.
1:14:02
And
1:14:02
then
1:14:02
we
1:14:03
had
1:14:03
Billy
1:14:03
Smith.
1:14:05
Right.
1:14:05
Let's
1:14:06
not
1:14:06
forget
1:14:06
Smitty.
1:14:07
Yeah.
1:14:07
And
1:14:08
as
1:14:08
you
1:14:08
say,
1:14:09
the
1:14:09
unsung
1:14:10
guys,
1:14:11
Bob,
1:14:12
they
1:14:13
were
1:14:13
heroes
1:14:13
in
1:14:13
their
1:14:14
own
1:14:14
right,
1:14:15
and
1:14:16
we
1:14:16
can't
1:14:16
forget
1:14:17
them,
1:14:17
and
1:14:17
we
1:14:17
have
1:14:17
to
1:14:17
give
1:14:18
them
1:14:18
credit.
1:14:19
And
1:14:20
let's
1:14:20
talk
1:14:20
a
1:14:21
little
1:14:21
bit
1:14:21
about
1:14:21
the
1:14:21
coach.
1:14:22
I
1:14:22
mean,
1:14:23
Al
1:14:23
Arbour,
1:14:25
just
1:14:25
an
1:14:26
amazing
1:14:26
coach.
1:14:30
Yeah,
1:14:30
glad
1:14:31
you
1:14:31
brought
1:14:31
that
1:14:31
up.
1:14:35
I
1:14:35
don't
1:14:35
know
1:14:35
if
1:14:35
I
1:14:36
would
1:14:36
have
1:14:36
played
1:14:36
in
1:14:37
the
1:14:37
NHL,
1:14:37
Phil,
1:14:38
if
1:14:38
it
1:14:38
wasn't
1:14:38
for
1:14:39
Arbor.
1:14:40
He
1:14:40
was.
1:14:41
He
1:14:41
was
1:14:42
so
1:14:42
patient
1:14:42
with
1:14:43
me.
1:14:44
I
1:14:44
had
1:14:44
a
1:14:45
really
1:14:45
good
1:14:45
rookie
1:14:46
year,
1:14:47
and
1:14:47
then
1:14:47
in
1:14:47
training
1:14:48
camp
1:14:48
the
1:14:48
next
1:14:48
year,
1:14:49
I
1:14:49
hurt
1:14:49
my
1:14:50
knee
1:14:50
a
1:14:50
little
1:14:50
bit,
1:14:50
and
1:14:51
I
1:14:51
was
1:14:51
sent
1:14:51
down
1:14:52
for.
1:14:52
Well,
1:14:52
for
1:14:53
most
1:14:53
of
1:14:53
the
1:14:53
year,
1:14:54
into
1:14:54
Fort
1:14:54
Worth.
1:14:55
But
1:14:56
he
1:15:00
just
1:15:00
had
1:15:00
that
1:15:00
patience
1:15:01
with
1:15:01
me.
1:15:02
He
1:15:02
would
1:15:02
talk
1:15:03
to
1:15:03
me
1:15:03
all
1:15:03
the
1:15:03
time,
1:15:05
and
1:15:05
he.
1:15:07
I
1:15:07
gained
1:15:07
so
1:15:07
much
1:15:08
confidence
1:15:08
throughout,
1:15:11
and
1:15:11
he
1:15:12
let
1:15:12
me
1:15:12
play
1:15:13
any
1:15:13
way
1:15:13
that
1:15:14
I
1:15:14
wanted
1:15:14
to
1:15:15
play.
1:15:15
And
1:15:15
I
1:15:16
was.
1:15:16
I
1:15:16
was
1:15:16
a
1:15:16
good
1:15:16
defensive
1:15:17
player.
1:15:18
I
1:15:18
was
1:15:18
very
1:15:18
conscious
1:15:19
of
1:15:19
playing
1:15:19
defense,
1:15:21
but
1:15:21
I.
1:15:22
He
1:15:22
also
1:15:22
let
1:15:23
me
1:15:23
loosen
1:15:23
the
1:15:24
offensive
1:15:24
end.
1:15:24
And
1:15:25
he
1:15:26
became
1:15:26
a
1:15:26
second
1:15:26
father
1:15:27
to
1:15:27
me,
1:15:27
to
1:15:27
be
1:15:28
honest
1:15:28
with
1:15:28
you.
1:15:28
I
1:15:28
mean,
1:15:29
you
1:15:29
know,
1:15:29
we
1:15:29
were
1:15:30
together
1:15:30
nine
1:15:30
months
1:15:31
a
1:15:31
year
1:15:31
in
1:15:31
those
1:15:31
days,
1:15:33
and,
1:15:33
you
1:15:33
know,
1:15:33
you
1:15:34
see
1:15:34
him
1:15:34
every
1:15:34
day,
1:15:35
and
1:15:36
he
1:15:36
would
1:15:37
always
1:15:37
ask
1:15:37
at
1:15:37
least
1:15:38
one
1:15:38
player
1:15:38
to
1:15:38
come
1:15:39
see
1:15:39
him
1:15:39
after
1:15:39
practice.
1:15:40
And,
1:15:41
you
1:15:42
know,
1:15:42
so
1:15:42
every
1:15:42
20
1:15:43
days
1:15:44
I
1:15:44
would
1:15:44
be
1:15:44
in
1:15:44
there
1:15:45
and
1:15:46
just
1:15:47
talking
1:15:47
to
1:15:48
him,
1:15:48
and
1:15:48
he
1:15:48
wasn't
1:15:48
ever,
1:15:50
I
1:15:51
think
1:15:51
the
1:15:52
best
1:15:52
virtue
1:15:53
about
1:15:53
Al
1:15:53
Arbor
1:15:54
was,
1:15:55
he
1:15:55
wasn't
1:15:55
a
1:15:55
yeller
1:15:56
and
1:15:56
a
1:15:56
screamer
1:15:57
behind
1:15:57
the
1:15:57
bench.
1:15:57
He
1:15:58
was
1:15:58
very,
1:15:58
very
1:15:59
calm.
1:16:00
And
1:16:00
there
1:16:00
were
1:16:00
lots
1:16:01
of
1:16:01
times
1:16:01
when
1:16:01
he
1:16:01
could
1:16:02
have
1:16:02
lost
1:16:02
it,
1:16:02
but
1:16:02
he
1:16:03
never,
1:16:03
ever
1:16:04
did.
1:16:04
And
1:16:05
that
1:16:05
was
1:16:05
a
1:16:05
calming
1:16:06
influence
1:16:06
to
1:16:06
the
1:16:07
players.
1:16:09
You
1:16:09
know,
1:16:09
we,
1:16:09
you
1:16:09
know,
1:16:10
we
1:16:10
didn't
1:16:10
have
1:16:10
to
1:16:10
listen
1:16:11
to
1:16:11
him
1:16:11
yelling
1:16:11
at
1:16:12
the
1:16:12
refs
1:16:12
all
1:16:12
the
1:16:12
time.
1:16:13
And
1:16:13
you
1:16:13
know,
1:16:13
you
1:16:14
see
1:16:14
a
1:16:14
lot
1:16:14
of,
1:16:14
you
1:16:15
see
1:16:15
a
1:16:15
lot
1:16:15
of
1:16:15
coaches
1:16:16
now
1:16:16
and
1:16:16
they're
1:16:16
just
1:16:17
yelling
1:16:17
and
1:16:17
screaming
1:16:18
and
1:16:18
it
1:16:19
doesn't
1:16:19
do
1:16:19
your
1:16:19
team
1:16:19
any
1:16:20
good.
1:16:20
And.
1:16:21
But
1:16:21
he
1:16:21
did
1:16:22
become
1:16:22
a
1:16:22
second
1:16:22
father
1:16:23
to
1:16:23
me
1:16:23
and
1:16:23
we
1:16:24
could
1:16:24
talk
1:16:24
about
1:16:24
anything.
1:16:26
He
1:16:26
knew
1:16:27
all
1:16:27
the
1:16:27
kids
1:16:28
on
1:16:28
our
1:16:28
team,
1:16:28
you
1:16:29
know,
1:16:29
he
1:16:29
knew
1:16:29
their
1:16:30
names.
1:16:31
And
1:16:31
his
1:16:31
wife
1:16:32
Claire
1:16:32
was
1:16:32
just
1:16:33
a
1:16:33
beautiful
1:16:33
woman.
1:16:34
And
1:16:34
they
1:16:35
were
1:16:35
very
1:16:36
spiritual
1:16:37
and
1:16:37
religious.
1:16:38
They
1:16:38
went
1:16:38
to
1:16:39
church
1:16:39
every
1:16:40
Sunday.
1:16:40
And
1:16:42
we
1:16:43
were
1:16:43
lucky
1:16:43
in
1:16:43
New
1:16:43
York,
1:16:44
we
1:16:44
didn't
1:16:45
play
1:16:45
on
1:16:45
many
1:16:45
Sundays,
1:16:46
so
1:16:46
we
1:16:46
had
1:16:46
the
1:16:47
day
1:16:47
off.
1:16:48
But
1:16:49
Al
1:16:49
was
1:16:49
just
1:16:50
a
1:16:50
special
1:16:50
human
1:16:51
being
1:16:53
and
1:16:53
he
1:16:53
was
1:16:53
quietly,
1:16:54
very
1:16:54
funny
1:16:58
in
1:16:58
the
1:16:58
dressing
1:16:59
room.
1:16:59
He
1:16:59
could
1:16:59
make
1:16:59
us
1:17:00
laugh.
1:17:01
He
1:17:01
was
1:17:01
kind
1:17:01
of
1:17:02
a
1:17:02
very
1:17:03
quiet
1:17:03
man,
1:17:04
but
1:17:04
just.
1:17:07
And
1:17:07
he
1:17:07
treated
1:17:08
every
1:17:08
player
1:17:11
differently.
1:17:11
Like
1:17:12
he
1:17:12
treated
1:17:12
me
1:17:13
the
1:17:13
way
1:17:13
I
1:17:13
had
1:17:13
to
1:17:14
be
1:17:14
treated.
1:17:14
He
1:17:14
treated
1:17:15
Danny
1:17:15
Potman
1:17:16
the
1:17:16
way
1:17:16
he
1:17:16
had
1:17:16
to
1:17:16
be
1:17:16
treated.
1:17:17
He
1:17:17
knew,
1:17:18
he
1:17:18
knew
1:17:19
our
1:17:19
personalities
1:17:20
inside
1:17:21
out.
1:17:21
And
1:17:22
he,
1:17:22
he
1:17:22
was
1:17:22
also
1:17:23
lucky
1:17:23
because
1:17:24
he
1:17:24
had
1:17:24
16
1:17:24
guys
1:17:25
for
1:17:25
those
1:17:25
four
1:17:26
Stanley
1:17:26
cup
1:17:26
years,
1:17:27
you
1:17:27
know,
1:17:27
the
1:17:28
same
1:17:28
guys,
1:17:29
and
1:17:29
they
1:17:29
would
1:17:30
throw
1:17:30
the
1:17:30
odd
1:17:30
player
1:17:31
in
1:17:31
there,
1:17:31
you
1:17:32
know,
1:17:32
from
1:17:33
the
1:17:33
outside
1:17:33
for
1:17:34
the
1:17:34
minors
1:17:34
or
1:17:35
something.
1:17:35
And.
1:17:36
But
1:17:36
he
1:17:36
was
1:17:37
just,
1:17:37
yeah,
1:17:38
he
1:17:38
was
1:17:38
just
1:17:38
a
1:17:38
fantastic
1:17:39
coach.
1:17:39
And
1:17:39
I
1:17:40
thank
1:17:41
God
1:17:42
that
1:17:42
I
1:17:43
was
1:17:43
able
1:17:43
to
1:17:43
play
1:17:44
for
1:17:44
him.
1:17:45
What
1:17:45
a
1:17:45
wonderful
1:17:45
depiction
1:17:46
of
1:17:47
the
1:17:47
coach,
1:17:47
Al
1:17:47
Arbor.
1:17:48
From
1:17:48
Bob
1:17:48
Bourne
1:17:49
tonight
1:17:49
on
1:17:49
Sports
1:17:50
Talk
1:17:50
New
1:17:50
York.
1:17:51
What
1:17:51
do
1:17:51
you
1:17:51
think
1:17:52
Mike
1:17:52
Bossi
1:17:53
would
1:17:53
have
1:17:53
done,
1:17:54
Bob,
1:17:55
had
1:17:55
he
1:17:55
not
1:17:55
have
1:17:56
to
1:17:56
retire
1:17:56
early
1:17:57
because
1:17:57
of
1:17:57
his
1:17:57
back?
1:18:01
Well,
1:18:02
he
1:18:02
would
1:18:02
have
1:18:03
had
1:18:03
more
1:18:03
50
1:18:03
goal
1:18:04
seasons,
1:18:04
I
1:18:04
can
1:18:05
promise
1:18:05
you
1:18:05
that.
1:18:07
You
1:18:07
know,
1:18:08
like
1:18:11
I,
1:18:12
I
1:18:12
made
1:18:12
a
1:18:12
boo,
1:18:13
boo.
1:18:13
One
1:18:13
day
1:18:13
I
1:18:13
was
1:18:14
on
1:18:14
an
1:18:14
interview,
1:18:14
it
1:18:15
was
1:18:15
on
1:18:15
TV
1:18:15
here
1:18:16
across
1:18:16
Canada.
1:18:18
And
1:18:20
the
1:18:20
guy
1:18:21
asked
1:18:21
me
1:18:22
why
1:18:22
Tiger
1:18:22
Williams
1:18:23
didn't
1:18:23
like
1:18:23
Mike
1:18:24
Bossi.
1:18:25
And
1:18:25
I
1:18:25
said,
1:18:25
well,
1:18:25
Tiger
1:18:26
didn't
1:18:26
like
1:18:26
soft
1:18:27
players.
1:18:28
And
1:18:28
I,
1:18:29
and
1:18:29
I
1:18:30
like,
1:18:31
I
1:18:31
included
1:18:32
a
1:18:32
lot
1:18:32
of
1:18:32
players.
1:18:32
I
1:18:33
didn't
1:18:33
mean
1:18:33
Mike
1:18:33
Wasophil
1:18:34
because
1:18:35
trust
1:18:35
me,
1:18:35
Mike
1:18:35
Boss,
1:18:36
he
1:18:36
was
1:18:36
not
1:18:36
soft,
1:18:37
but
1:18:38
he
1:18:38
would,
1:18:38
he
1:18:38
would
1:18:39
have,
1:18:40
I
1:18:40
think
1:18:40
he
1:18:41
would
1:18:41
have
1:18:42
challenged
1:18:44
Wayne
1:18:44
Gretzky's
1:18:45
record
1:18:45
if
1:18:46
he
1:18:46
played
1:18:46
that
1:18:47
long.
1:18:48
I
1:18:49
really
1:18:49
do.
1:18:49
I
1:18:49
mean,
1:18:50
what
1:18:51
does
1:18:51
he
1:18:51
have
1:18:52
seven
1:18:52
straight
1:18:53
50
1:18:53
goal
1:18:53
seasons
1:18:54
or
1:18:54
something?
1:18:55
Yeah,
1:18:56
you
1:18:56
know,
1:18:57
Mike
1:18:57
could
1:18:57
score
1:18:57
from
1:18:58
anywhere.
1:18:59
And
1:18:59
the
1:19:00
thing
1:19:00
was,
1:19:00
Mike
1:19:02
is,
1:19:03
he
1:19:03
was
1:19:03
tough.
1:19:04
He
1:19:04
played
1:19:05
hard
1:19:05
in
1:19:06
Boston,
1:19:06
you
1:19:07
know,
1:19:07
Boston
1:19:07
always
1:19:08
had
1:19:08
a
1:19:08
Tough
1:19:08
team,
1:19:08
not
1:19:09
small
1:19:09
ring.
1:19:10
Philadelphia
1:19:11
had
1:19:11
a
1:19:11
tough
1:19:11
team,
1:19:12
and
1:19:13
Mike
1:19:13
played
1:19:13
great
1:19:14
in
1:19:14
those.
1:19:14
He
1:19:14
scored
1:19:14
goals
1:19:15
in
1:19:15
Philly,
1:19:15
he
1:19:16
scored
1:19:16
goals
1:19:16
in
1:19:16
Boston.
1:19:17
Nobody
1:19:18
could
1:19:18
check
1:19:18
Mike
1:19:18
Bossi.
1:19:19
Nobody.
1:19:21
And,
1:19:22
you
1:19:22
know,
1:19:23
he
1:19:23
scored
1:19:23
huge
1:19:24
goals
1:19:24
for
1:19:24
us.
1:19:28
And
1:19:28
once
1:19:28
again,
1:19:29
I
1:19:29
just
1:19:29
thank
1:19:29
God
1:19:30
I
1:19:30
got
1:19:30
to
1:19:30
play
1:19:30
with
1:19:31
him.
1:19:31
An
1:19:31
amazing
1:19:32
player,
1:19:32
folks.
1:19:33
Mike
1:19:33
Bossi
1:19:34
for
1:19:34
the
1:19:35
New
1:19:35
York
1:19:35
Islanders.
1:19:36
Now,
1:19:36
your
1:19:36
career
1:19:37
kind
1:19:37
of
1:19:37
ended
1:19:38
on
1:19:38
a
1:19:38
high
1:19:38
note,
1:19:39
Bob,
1:19:39
because
1:19:40
you
1:19:40
were
1:19:41
with
1:19:41
the
1:19:41
Kings.
1:19:42
You
1:19:42
were
1:19:43
awarded
1:19:43
the
1:19:43
Bill
1:19:44
Masterson
1:19:44
Trophy.
1:19:45
And
1:19:45
that,
1:19:46
folks,
1:19:46
you
1:19:46
can
1:19:46
look
1:19:47
it
1:19:47
up,
1:19:47
is
1:19:47
given
1:19:47
for
1:19:48
perseverance.
1:19:49
Now,
1:19:50
that
1:19:50
had
1:19:50
to
1:19:50
be
1:19:51
a
1:19:51
highlight
1:19:51
of
1:19:51
your
1:19:51
career,
1:19:52
Bob.
1:19:54
That
1:19:54
was
1:19:54
certainly
1:19:55
one
1:19:55
of
1:19:55
them.
1:20:00
It
1:20:00
just
1:20:00
kind
1:20:01
of
1:20:01
depicted
1:20:02
the
1:20:02
type
1:20:02
of
1:20:02
player
1:20:03
I
1:20:03
was
1:20:03
over
1:20:04
14
1:20:04
years.
1:20:06
You
1:20:07
know,
1:20:08
we
1:20:08
raised
1:20:09
a
1:20:09
lot
1:20:09
of
1:20:09
money
1:20:10
for
1:20:11
handicapped
1:20:12
children
1:20:13
in
1:20:13
Long
1:20:13
Island.
1:20:14
My
1:20:14
son
1:20:14
Jeffrey
1:20:15
was
1:20:15
born
1:20:15
with
1:20:15
spina
1:20:16
bifida,
1:20:16
and,
1:20:16
you
1:20:17
know,
1:20:17
he's
1:20:17
been
1:20:17
in
1:20:17
a
1:20:17
wheelchair
1:20:18
all
1:20:18
his
1:20:18
life.
1:20:19
And
1:20:20
so
1:20:20
my
1:20:20
wife,
1:20:21
Janice,
1:20:21
and
1:20:22
I,
1:20:22
we.
1:20:22
We
1:20:25
had
1:20:25
a
1:20:25
foundation
1:20:26
at
1:20:26
the
1:20:26
time,
1:20:26
and
1:20:27
then
1:20:27
we
1:20:27
raised
1:20:27
a
1:20:28
lot
1:20:28
of
1:20:28
money.
1:20:28
I
1:20:28
think.
1:20:29
I
1:20:29
think
1:20:29
that's
1:20:30
a
1:20:30
lot
1:20:30
of
1:20:30
the
1:20:30
reasons
1:20:31
I
1:20:31
won
1:20:31
the
1:20:31
Masterton.
1:20:32
That
1:20:32
was
1:20:32
part
1:20:32
of
1:20:32
it,
1:20:33
for
1:20:33
sure.
1:20:34
And
1:20:34
also
1:20:35
that
1:20:35
year,
1:20:36
Phil,
1:20:37
nobody
1:20:38
knows
1:20:38
this,
1:20:39
but
1:20:39
I
1:20:39
was
1:20:39
on
1:20:39
the
1:20:40
front
1:20:40
of
1:20:41
Sports
1:20:41
Illustrated
1:20:42
as
1:20:42
one
1:20:42
of
1:20:42
the
1:20:42
athletes
1:20:43
of
1:20:43
the
1:20:43
year,
1:20:43
Right.
1:20:45
And
1:20:46
there
1:20:46
was
1:20:46
eight
1:20:47
of
1:20:47
us,
1:20:47
eight
1:20:47
from
1:20:48
eight
1:20:48
different
1:20:48
sports.
1:20:50
And
1:20:50
that
1:20:51
was
1:20:51
a
1:20:51
huge
1:20:51
thrill
1:20:52
for
1:20:52
me.
1:20:52
You
1:20:52
know,
1:20:52
I
1:20:53
went
1:20:53
to
1:20:53
New
1:20:53
York
1:20:53
and,
1:20:55
you
1:20:55
know,
1:20:55
Tiger
1:20:55
Wood
1:20:56
was
1:20:56
there,
1:20:57
and
1:20:57
there
1:20:57
was
1:20:58
a
1:20:58
lot
1:20:58
of
1:20:59
guys
1:21:00
that
1:21:00
I
1:21:00
was
1:21:00
in
1:21:00
awe
1:21:01
of.
1:21:04
Yeah.
1:21:04
So,
1:21:04
anyway,
1:21:05
that
1:21:05
was
1:21:06
my
1:21:06
final
1:21:06
year,
1:21:07
was.
1:21:07
It
1:21:07
was
1:21:07
a.
1:21:08
Like
1:21:09
you
1:21:09
said,
1:21:09
it
1:21:10
ended
1:21:10
on
1:21:10
a
1:21:10
good.
1:21:11
It
1:21:11
certainly
1:21:12
did.
1:21:12
And
1:21:13
as
1:21:13
Bob
1:21:14
said,
1:21:14
one
1:21:14
of
1:21:14
the
1:21:14
Sports
1:21:15
Illustrated
1:21:16
Sportsman
1:21:16
of
1:21:16
the
1:21:17
year
1:21:17
in
1:21:17
1987
1:21:19
for
1:21:20
his
1:21:20
work
1:21:20
for
1:21:21
disabled
1:21:21
children.
1:21:23
Really
1:21:23
exemplary
1:21:24
and
1:21:25
an
1:21:25
amazing
1:21:25
feat
1:21:26
right
1:21:26
there
1:21:26
for
1:21:27
Bob
1:21:27
Bourne.
1:21:27
Now,
1:21:28
you've
1:21:29
been
1:21:29
a
1:21:29
member
1:21:29
of
1:21:30
the
1:21:30
Islanders
1:21:31
hall
1:21:31
of
1:21:31
Fame,
1:21:31
Bob,
1:21:32
but
1:21:32
you're
1:21:33
the
1:21:33
only
1:21:33
one
1:21:33
whose
1:21:34
number
1:21:34
hasn't
1:21:34
been
1:21:35
retired.
1:21:36
Do
1:21:36
you
1:21:36
feel
1:21:38
a
1:21:38
little
1:21:38
slighted
1:21:39
in
1:21:39
that
1:21:39
regard?
1:21:43
I'm
1:21:43
not
1:21:43
going
1:21:44
to
1:21:44
mince
1:21:44
words
1:21:44
here,
1:21:45
Phil.
1:21:45
Sure.
1:21:47
I
1:21:47
feel
1:21:48
very
1:21:48
slighted.
1:21:49
I
1:21:49
do.
1:21:49
Okay.
1:21:51
I
1:21:51
led
1:21:51
the
1:21:52
Islanders
1:21:52
in
1:21:52
scoring
1:21:53
in
1:21:53
two
1:21:53
different
1:21:53
playoff
1:21:54
races.
1:21:56
I
1:21:57
was
1:21:57
always
1:21:58
in
1:21:58
the
1:21:58
top
1:21:59
five
1:21:59
in
1:21:59
playoff
1:22:00
scores
1:22:01
every
1:22:01
year.
1:22:02
And
1:22:05
I.
1:22:06
There
1:22:07
are
1:22:07
players
1:22:07
who
1:22:08
are
1:22:08
jerseys
1:22:09
or
1:22:09
hanging
1:22:09
in
1:22:09
the
1:22:10
rafters
1:22:11
who.
1:22:11
I
1:22:11
had
1:22:11
many
1:22:11
more
1:22:12
points
1:22:12
then,
1:22:13
and
1:22:13
I'm
1:22:13
not
1:22:14
going
1:22:14
to
1:22:14
name
1:22:14
names,
1:22:15
because
1:22:15
I
1:22:15
love.
1:22:16
I
1:22:16
love
1:22:16
the
1:22:17
guys
1:22:17
who
1:22:17
are
1:22:17
in
1:22:17
the
1:22:18
rafters.
1:22:18
They're
1:22:19
my.
1:22:19
They're
1:22:19
my
1:22:20
very
1:22:20
good
1:22:20
friends.
1:22:22
But
1:22:22
I
1:22:23
do
1:22:23
feel
1:22:23
slighted,
1:22:24
and
1:22:24
I
1:22:25
don't
1:22:25
know
1:22:25
why
1:22:25
it's
1:22:26
ever
1:22:26
happened.
1:22:30
I
1:22:30
thought
1:22:30
I
1:22:31
contributed
1:22:31
enough
1:22:31
to
1:22:32
easily
1:22:33
have
1:22:33
my
1:22:33
jersey
1:22:34
hanging
1:22:34
in
1:22:34
the
1:22:34
rafters.
1:22:35
I
1:22:36
agree
1:22:36
100%,
1:22:37
Bob.
1:22:37
That's
1:22:38
something
1:22:38
that
1:22:39
they
1:22:39
really
1:22:39
have
1:22:39
to
1:22:40
right,
1:22:40
a
1:22:40
wrong
1:22:41
that
1:22:41
they
1:22:41
have
1:22:41
to
1:22:41
right
1:22:42
within
1:22:43
the
1:22:43
Islanders
1:22:43
organization
1:22:44
to
1:22:44
get.
1:22:45
Bob
1:22:46
Bourne's
1:22:46
jersey
1:22:47
raced
1:22:47
to
1:22:48
the
1:22:48
rafters
1:22:48
at
1:22:48
the
1:22:49
UBS
1:22:50
arena,
1:22:51
as
1:22:52
it
1:22:52
should
1:22:52
have
1:22:52
been
1:22:52
at
1:22:52
the
1:22:53
Nassau
1:22:53
Coliseum
1:22:54
as
1:22:54
well.
1:22:56
Elected
1:22:56
to
1:22:57
the
1:22:57
Islanders
1:22:57
hall
1:22:58
of
1:22:58
Fame,
1:22:58
the
1:22:58
only
1:22:58
guy
1:22:59
whose
1:23:00
jersey
1:23:00
hasn't
1:23:01
been
1:23:01
retired.
1:23:01
And.
1:23:02
And
1:23:02
really
1:23:03
something
1:23:04
that
1:23:04
the
1:23:04
Islanders
1:23:05
have
1:23:05
to
1:23:05
look
1:23:05
at
1:23:06
now,
1:23:08
as
1:23:08
far
1:23:08
as
1:23:09
coaching,
1:23:09
Bob,
1:23:10
how
1:23:11
did
1:23:11
you
1:23:11
get
1:23:11
into
1:23:11
coaching
1:23:12
and
1:23:12
did
1:23:12
you
1:23:12
enjoy
1:23:13
it?
1:23:17
Yes
1:23:17
and
1:23:17
no.
1:23:18
I
1:23:19
got
1:23:19
a
1:23:19
call
1:23:20
from
1:23:20
Butch
1:23:20
Goring.
1:23:21
Butch,
1:23:21
he
1:23:21
was
1:23:21
coaching
1:23:22
in
1:23:22
Salt
1:23:22
Lake
1:23:22
City,
1:23:23
within
1:23:23
the
1:23:24
International
1:23:25
League,
1:23:25
it
1:23:25
was
1:23:26
called
1:23:26
at
1:23:26
the
1:23:26
time.
1:23:28
And
1:23:31
I
1:23:32
was
1:23:32
a
1:23:32
stockbroker
1:23:33
at
1:23:33
the
1:23:33
time,
1:23:33
Phil.
1:23:34
And
1:23:34
I
1:23:34
hated
1:23:35
it.
1:23:35
I
1:23:35
hated
1:23:36
every
1:23:36
minute
1:23:36
of
1:23:37
it.
1:23:37
And
1:23:38
so
1:23:38
I
1:23:38
quit
1:23:39
stockbroking
1:23:40
and
1:23:41
I
1:23:41
went
1:23:41
down
1:23:41
to
1:23:41
Salt
1:23:42
Lake
1:23:42
City
1:23:42
and
1:23:42
I
1:23:43
coached
1:23:43
there
1:23:43
with
1:23:45
Gucci,
1:23:45
I
1:23:46
think
1:23:46
it
1:23:46
was,
1:23:46
for
1:23:46
three
1:23:47
years.
1:23:48
And
1:23:49
then
1:23:50
Las
1:23:51
Vegas,
1:23:51
Bobby
1:23:52
Strom
1:23:52
was
1:23:52
the
1:23:53
GM
1:23:53
and.
1:23:54
And
1:23:55
called,
1:23:55
and
1:23:55
they
1:23:56
needed
1:23:56
a
1:23:56
head
1:23:56
coach,
1:23:57
and
1:23:58
Bob
1:23:58
Straumond.
1:23:59
And
1:23:59
I
1:23:59
had
1:23:59
an
1:24:00
affiliation
1:24:00
from
1:24:01
Saskatoon,
1:24:02
so
1:24:02
I
1:24:02
took
1:24:02
that
1:24:03
job,
1:24:04
even
1:24:04
though
1:24:04
I
1:24:05
knew.
1:24:05
I
1:24:05
knew
1:24:06
the
1:24:06
team
1:24:06
was
1:24:06
folding
1:24:07
at
1:24:07
the
1:24:07
end
1:24:07
of
1:24:07
that
1:24:07
year,
1:24:08
but
1:24:08
I
1:24:08
wanted
1:24:09
the
1:24:09
experience.
1:24:11
So
1:24:11
I
1:24:11
went
1:24:12
down
1:24:12
there
1:24:12
for
1:24:12
a
1:24:12
year,
1:24:13
and
1:24:14
then
1:24:15
Butchie
1:24:15
got
1:24:15
hired
1:24:16
by
1:24:16
the
1:24:16
Islanders.
1:24:17
And
1:24:17
so
1:24:17
Salt
1:24:18
Lake
1:24:18
didn't
1:24:18
have
1:24:19
a
1:24:19
head
1:24:19
coach,
1:24:20
but
1:24:20
I
1:24:20
had
1:24:21
a
1:24:21
close
1:24:21
affiliation
1:24:22
with
1:24:22
the
1:24:22
GM
1:24:23
there.
1:24:24
And
1:24:25
I
1:24:26
flew
1:24:26
there,
1:24:26
and
1:24:27
they
1:24:27
signed
1:24:28
me
1:24:28
that
1:24:28
day,
1:24:28
and
1:24:29
I
1:24:29
coached
1:24:29
in
1:24:29
Salt
1:24:29
Lake,
1:24:30
I
1:24:30
think
1:24:30
it
1:24:30
was,
1:24:30
for
1:24:31
three
1:24:31
years.
1:24:34
And
1:24:34
then
1:24:35
Dallas
1:24:36
bought
1:24:37
the
1:24:37
team
1:24:38
and
1:24:39
they
1:24:39
put
1:24:40
in
1:24:40
their
1:24:40
own
1:24:40
head
1:24:40
coach.
1:24:43
But
1:24:43
in
1:24:44
Salt
1:24:44
Lake
1:24:44
City,
1:24:45
I
1:24:45
was
1:24:45
also
1:24:45
the
1:24:45
general
1:24:46
manager.
1:24:46
And
1:24:47
I
1:24:47
loved
1:24:47
being
1:24:48
a
1:24:48
gm.
1:24:48
I
1:24:48
just
1:24:49
loved
1:24:49
it.
1:24:50
And
1:24:50
so
1:24:51
at
1:24:51
the
1:24:51
end
1:24:51
of.
1:24:51
The
1:24:52
end
1:24:52
of
1:24:52
my
1:24:52
contract,
1:24:53
I.
1:24:56
I
1:24:56
had
1:24:56
lots
1:24:57
of
1:24:57
offers
1:24:57
to
1:24:58
go,
1:24:58
like,
1:24:58
to
1:24:58
the
1:24:58
East
1:24:59
Coast
1:24:59
League
1:24:59
and
1:25:00
things
1:25:00
like
1:25:00
that,
1:25:00
but
1:25:00
I
1:25:01
didn't
1:25:01
want
1:25:01
to
1:25:02
get
1:25:02
on
1:25:02
a
1:25:02
bus
1:25:02
again.
1:25:03
Yeah,
1:25:04
and
1:25:05
my
1:25:05
son
1:25:06
Jeffrey
1:25:06
was
1:25:06
going
1:25:06
through
1:25:07
a
1:25:07
lot
1:25:07
of
1:25:07
operations
1:25:08
in
1:25:08
those
1:25:08
days,
1:25:09
so
1:25:09
I
1:25:09
said,
1:25:10
I
1:25:10
just
1:25:11
go
1:25:11
home
1:25:11
and
1:25:12
we'll
1:25:12
see
1:25:12
what
1:25:12
happens.
1:25:13
So
1:25:15
that
1:25:15
was
1:25:15
my
1:25:15
coaching
1:25:16
career.
1:25:16
It
1:25:16
ended
1:25:17
there.
1:25:18
I
1:25:18
never
1:25:19
went
1:25:19
back,
1:25:20
but
1:25:21
I
1:25:21
enjoyed
1:25:22
coaching
1:25:22
hockey.
1:25:23
But
1:25:23
I
1:25:24
loved
1:25:24
the
1:25:24
GM
1:25:25
side
1:25:25
of
1:25:25
it
1:25:26
a
1:25:26
lot
1:25:26
better.
1:25:26
And
1:25:28
we
1:25:28
had
1:25:28
some
1:25:28
really
1:25:28
good
1:25:29
teams
1:25:29
when
1:25:29
I
1:25:29
was
1:25:30
a
1:25:30
gm
1:25:33
to
1:25:33
the
1:25:33
finals
1:25:34
a
1:25:34
couple
1:25:34
times,
1:25:35
and.
1:25:36
Yeah,
1:25:36
I
1:25:37
enjoyed
1:25:37
that
1:25:37
very
1:25:37
much.
1:25:38
Understood,
1:25:39
Bob.
1:25:40
Well,
1:25:40
it's
1:25:40
been
1:25:40
a
1:25:41
pleasure.
1:25:41
I
1:25:41
thank
1:25:41
you
1:25:42
for
1:25:42
taking
1:25:42
time
1:25:42
out
1:25:43
of
1:25:43
your
1:25:43
Sunday
1:25:43
night
1:25:44
to
1:25:44
spend
1:25:44
it
1:25:44
with
1:25:44
us
1:25:44
here,
1:25:45
Sports
1:25:46
Talk
1:25:46
New
1:25:46
York,
1:25:47
on
1:25:47
Merrick
1:25:47
Avenue,
1:25:48
just
1:25:48
a
1:25:48
few
1:25:48
miles
1:25:49
down
1:25:49
the
1:25:49
road
1:25:50
from
1:25:50
the
1:25:50
Nassau
1:25:51
Coliseum.
1:25:53
We
1:25:53
wish
1:25:53
you
1:25:53
the
1:25:53
best,
1:25:54
Bob,
1:25:54
a
1:25:54
happy,
1:25:55
healthy
1:25:56
2026.
1:25:57
And
1:25:58
I
1:25:58
look
1:25:58
forward
1:25:59
to
1:25:59
our
1:25:59
next
1:25:59
conversation.
1:26:00
Bob.
1:26:02
Anytime,
1:26:03
Phil.
1:26:03
I
1:26:03
enjoyed
1:26:04
it,
1:26:04
too.
1:26:04
You
1:26:04
call
1:26:04
me
1:26:04
anytime.
1:26:05
You
1:26:06
take
1:26:06
care.
1:26:06
That's
1:26:06
Bob
1:26:07
Bourne,
1:26:07
ladies
1:26:08
and
1:26:08
gentlemen.
1:26:08
Up
1:26:08
next,
1:26:09
the
1:26:09
second
1:26:10
of
1:26:10
our
1:26:10
very
1:26:10
special
1:26:11
guests,
1:26:11
Jimmy
1:26:12
Hawkins.
1:26:13
Tommy
1:26:13
Bailey
1:26:13
from
1:26:14
It's
1:26:14
a
1:26:14
Wonderful
1:26:14
Life
1:26:15
will
1:26:15
join
1:26:15
our
1:26:15
holiday
1:26:16
show.
1:26:17
Stick
1:26:17
around,
1:26:18
folks.
1:26:31
You're
1:26:32
listening
1:26:32
to
1:26:33
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1:26:33
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New
1:26:34
York.
1:26:34
Tune
1:26:35
in
1:26:35
every
1:26:35
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1:26:35
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1:26:35
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1:26:35
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1:26:36
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1:26:36
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1:26:36
Island's
1:26:37
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1:26:38
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1:26:42
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1:26:42
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1:26:43
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1:26:44
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1:26:46
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1:26:47
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1:26:47
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1:26:58
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1:26:59
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1:26:59
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1:26:59
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1:27:00
New
1:27:00
York
1:27:00
on
1:27:01
Long
1:27:01
Island's
1:27:02
wgpb.
1:27:03
And
1:27:03
now,
1:27:04
now
1:27:05
back
1:27:05
to
1:27:05
the
1:27:05
show.
1:27:09
We
1:27:09
are
1:27:09
back,
1:27:10
folks.
1:27:10
We're
1:27:11
back
1:27:11
with
1:27:11
our
1:27:11
holiday
1:27:12
spectacular
1:27:12
here
1:27:13
on
1:27:13
Sports
1:27:13
Talk
1:27:14
New
1:27:14
York,
1:27:14
WGBB
1:27:15
radio
1:27:16
here
1:27:16
in
1:27:16
Merrick,
1:27:17
Long
1:27:17
Island,
1:27:18
New
1:27:18
York.
1:27:19
Welcome
1:27:19
aboard.
1:27:20
To
1:27:20
those
1:27:20
just
1:27:20
joining
1:27:21
us,
1:27:21
it's
1:27:22
been
1:27:22
a
1:27:22
pleasure
1:27:22
being
1:27:23
with
1:27:23
you
1:27:23
folks
1:27:24
so
1:27:24
far.
1:27:25
New
1:27:25
Year's
1:27:25
Eve
1:27:25
in
1:27:26
New
1:27:26
York
1:27:26
coming
1:27:26
up
1:27:27
this
1:27:27
week,
1:27:27
and
1:27:28
they
1:27:28
announced
1:27:29
that
1:27:29
the
1:27:29
Long
1:27:29
Island
1:27:30
Railroad,
1:27:30
of
1:27:30
course,
1:27:31
no
1:27:31
alcohol,
1:27:32
will
1:27:32
run
1:27:33
extra
1:27:33
trains
1:27:33
to
1:27:34
get
1:27:34
you
1:27:34
and
1:27:35
your
1:27:35
Depends
1:27:36
back
1:27:36
and
1:27:37
forth
1:27:37
from
1:27:37
the
1:27:37
city.
1:27:38
Right,
1:27:38
Brian?
1:27:39
You
1:27:39
have
1:27:39
to
1:27:40
take
1:27:40
some
1:27:40
measures,
1:27:41
folks.
1:27:41
They
1:27:42
got
1:27:42
to
1:27:42
these
1:27:43
people
1:27:43
standing
1:27:44
out
1:27:44
there
1:27:44
in
1:27:44
the
1:27:44
cold
1:27:45
waiting
1:27:45
for
1:27:45
the
1:27:45
ball
1:27:46
to
1:27:46
drop.
1:27:46
You
1:27:47
can't
1:27:47
leave
1:27:47
your
1:27:48
spot
1:27:48
for
1:27:48
the
1:27:48
entire
1:27:49
day.
1:27:50
You
1:27:50
have
1:27:50
to
1:27:51
do
1:27:51
something
1:27:54
when
1:27:54
nature
1:27:54
calls.
1:27:55
I
1:27:55
don't
1:27:55
understand
1:27:56
how
1:27:56
these
1:27:56
people
1:27:57
do
1:27:57
it.
1:27:57
I
1:27:57
don't
1:27:57
know
1:27:58
one
1:27:58
native
1:27:59
New
1:27:59
Yorker
1:28:00
who's
1:28:00
gone
1:28:00
to
1:28:00
Times
1:28:01
Square
1:28:01
for
1:28:01
New
1:28:02
Year's
1:28:02
Eve.
1:28:02
It
1:28:03
has
1:28:03
to
1:28:03
be
1:28:03
all
1:28:04
tourists.
1:28:05
But
1:28:05
I'd
1:28:05
be
1:28:05
interesting
1:28:06
in
1:28:06
knowing
1:28:06
what
1:28:06
measures
1:28:07
people
1:28:07
have
1:28:07
taken
1:28:08
to
1:28:08
stand
1:28:09
there
1:28:09
all
1:28:09
night
1:28:10
and
1:28:11
how
1:28:11
you
1:28:12
may
1:28:12
have
1:28:12
gotten
1:28:12
around
1:28:12
the
1:28:13
Long
1:28:13
Island
1:28:13
Railroad's
1:28:14
ban
1:28:14
on
1:28:14
alcohol
1:28:15
on
1:28:15
trains,
1:28:16
whether
1:28:16
you've
1:28:17
used
1:28:17
an
1:28:17
IV
1:28:18
or
1:28:19
whatever.
1:28:19
Right,
1:28:20
Brian?
1:28:20
Who
1:28:20
knows?
1:28:21
Email
1:28:22
me
1:28:22
and
1:28:22
we'll
1:28:22
discuss
1:28:23
it
1:28:23
some
1:28:23
other
1:28:23
night,
1:28:24
folks.
1:28:24
Well,
1:28:24
onward
1:28:25
with
1:28:25
a
1:28:25
very
1:28:26
special
1:28:26
guest
1:28:26
on
1:28:27
our
1:28:27
holiday
1:28:27
show.
1:28:28
He
1:28:28
played
1:28:28
Jimmy
1:28:29
Stewart
1:28:29
and
1:28:30
Donna
1:28:30
Reed's
1:28:31
son
1:28:31
Tommy
1:28:31
Bailey
1:28:32
in
1:28:32
the
1:28:32
classic
1:28:33
Frank
1:28:33
Capra
1:28:33
film
1:28:34
It's
1:28:34
a
1:28:35
Wonderful
1:28:35
Life,
1:28:36
as
1:28:36
well
1:28:36
as
1:28:37
appearing
1:28:37
in
1:28:37
over
1:28:38
40
1:28:38
movies,
1:28:39
more
1:28:39
than
1:28:39
300
1:28:40
TV
1:28:41
shows,
1:28:41
along
1:28:42
with
1:28:42
as
1:28:42
many
1:28:42
other
1:28:43
credits.
1:28:43
As
1:28:43
producer,
1:28:44
he
1:28:44
produced
1:28:45
the
1:28:45
All
1:28:45
Star
1:28:46
Television
1:28:46
special
1:28:47
for
1:28:47
pbs,
1:28:48
based
1:28:48
on
1:28:49
the
1:28:49
Lux
1:28:49
Radio
1:28:50
Theater's
1:28:50
version
1:28:51
of
1:28:51
It's
1:28:51
a
1:28:52
Wonderful
1:28:52
Life
1:28:53
in
1:28:53
celebration
1:28:54
of
1:28:54
the
1:28:54
50th
1:28:55
anniversary
1:28:55
of
1:28:55
that
1:28:56
great
1:28:56
film.
1:28:57
He
1:28:57
is
1:28:57
the
1:28:57
author
1:28:58
of
1:28:58
five
1:28:58
popular
1:28:59
It's
1:28:59
a
1:28:59
Wonderful
1:29:00
Life
1:29:00
Books.
1:29:01
And
1:29:01
he
1:29:01
served
1:29:02
on
1:29:02
the
1:29:02
advisory
1:29:03
boards
1:29:04
of
1:29:04
the
1:29:04
Jimmy
1:29:05
Stewart
1:29:05
Museum
1:29:06
and
1:29:06
the
1:29:06
Donna
1:29:07
Reed
1:29:07
foundation
1:29:08
and
1:29:08
of
1:29:08
course,
1:29:09
the
1:29:09
Seneca
1:29:10
Falls
1:29:10
It's
1:29:10
a
1:29:10
Wonderful
1:29:11
Life
1:29:11
Museum.
1:29:12
He
1:29:12
has
1:29:13
a
1:29:13
new
1:29:13
book
1:29:13
out
1:29:14
recently
1:29:14
from
1:29:14
HarperCollins.
1:29:15
It's
1:29:16
called
1:29:16
the
1:29:17
Heart
1:29:17
of
1:29:17
It's
1:29:18
a
1:29:18
Wonderful
1:29:19
how
1:29:20
the
1:29:20
Most
1:29:20
Inspirational
1:29:21
Movie
1:29:22
of
1:29:22
All
1:29:22
Time
1:29:23
Still
1:29:23
Inspires
1:29:24
the
1:29:25
Spirit.
1:29:25
A
1:29:26
great
1:29:26
read.
1:29:26
I'd
1:29:26
like
1:29:27
to
1:29:27
welcome
1:29:27
to
1:29:27
Sports
1:29:28
Talk
1:29:28
New
1:29:28
York
1:29:29
tonight,
1:29:29
Jimmy
1:29:30
Hawkins.
1:29:30
Jimmy
1:29:31
Good
1:29:31
evening,
1:29:32
Mr.
1:29:33
Donahue.
1:29:33
It's
1:29:33
a
1:29:33
pleasure
1:29:34
being
1:29:34
on
1:29:34
your
1:29:34
show.
1:29:35
Thank
1:29:35
you.
1:29:35
And
1:29:36
happy
1:29:36
holidays.
1:29:37
Happy
1:29:37
holidays
1:29:38
to
1:29:38
you
1:29:38
too,
1:29:39
Jimmy.
1:29:39
Now,
1:29:39
you
1:29:40
entered
1:29:40
into
1:29:41
a
1:29:41
wonderful
1:29:41
life
1:29:42
when
1:29:42
you
1:29:42
were
1:29:42
only
1:29:42
four
1:29:43
years
1:29:43
old.
1:29:44
Four
1:29:45
and
1:29:45
a
1:29:45
half.
1:29:45
Okay.
1:29:48
To
1:29:48
a
1:29:48
four
1:29:48
year
1:29:49
old.
1:29:49
You
1:29:50
know,
1:29:50
I
1:29:50
was
1:29:50
getting
1:29:51
older,
1:29:52
so
1:29:52
yeah,
1:29:53
four
1:29:53
and
1:29:53
a
1:29:53
half.
1:29:54
Met
1:29:55
with
1:29:55
Frank
1:29:56
Capra
1:29:57
three
1:29:57
or
1:29:57
four
1:29:57
times
1:29:58
before
1:29:59
he
1:29:59
thought
1:29:59
he
1:30:00
had
1:30:00
the
1:30:00
Bailey
1:30:00
family.
1:30:01
And
1:30:02
he
1:30:03
never
1:30:03
asked
1:30:04
any
1:30:04
of
1:30:04
us
1:30:04
to
1:30:04
read
1:30:05
any
1:30:05
of
1:30:05
his
1:30:05
four
1:30:06
kids.
1:30:06
He
1:30:07
just
1:30:07
would
1:30:07
talk
1:30:07
with
1:30:08
us
1:30:08
and
1:30:08
ask
1:30:09
us
1:30:09
questions
1:30:10
and
1:30:10
give
1:30:11
little
1:30:11
directions
1:30:12
to
1:30:12
see
1:30:12
if
1:30:12
he,
1:30:13
you
1:30:13
know,
1:30:13
if
1:30:13
you
1:30:13
could
1:30:14
take
1:30:14
directions.
1:30:15
And
1:30:15
then
1:30:16
one
1:30:16
day
1:30:16
we
1:30:17
were
1:30:17
called
1:30:17
out
1:30:17
to
1:30:18
the
1:30:18
studio
1:30:18
in
1:30:18
Culver
1:30:19
City
1:30:20
and
1:30:21
we
1:30:21
went
1:30:22
on
1:30:22
the
1:30:22
set
1:30:22
and
1:30:23
they
1:30:23
brought
1:30:23
Jimmy
1:30:23
Stewart
1:30:24
and
1:30:24
Donna
1:30:24
Reed
1:30:24
out
1:30:25
on
1:30:25
the
1:30:25
front
1:30:25
porch
1:30:25
of
1:30:26
the
1:30:26
320
1:30:27
Sycamore
1:30:28
House
1:30:28
and
1:30:29
took
1:30:29
a
1:30:29
picture
1:30:30
of
1:30:30
us.
1:30:30
And
1:30:30
he
1:30:31
said,
1:30:31
that's
1:30:31
it.
1:30:31
That's
1:30:31
my
1:30:32
Bailey
1:30:32
family.
1:30:33
Wow,
1:30:34
what
1:30:34
a
1:30:35
great
1:30:35
story
1:30:35
about
1:30:35
the
1:30:36
selection
1:30:36
process,
1:30:37
Jimmy.
1:30:37
Yeah.
1:30:38
Now,
1:30:39
what
1:30:39
memories
1:30:40
do
1:30:40
you
1:30:40
have
1:30:40
about
1:30:40
being
1:30:41
on
1:30:41
the
1:30:41
sets?
1:30:42
Besides
1:30:43
burping
1:30:45
the
1:30:46
mask,
1:30:46
putting
1:30:47
the
1:30:47
tinsel
1:30:47
on
1:30:48
Jimmy
1:30:48
Stewart,
1:30:49
what
1:30:49
other
1:30:49
memories
1:30:50
do
1:30:50
you
1:30:50
have?
1:30:51
Well,
1:30:52
you
1:30:52
would
1:30:52
think
1:30:53
at
1:30:53
four
1:30:53
and
1:30:53
a
1:30:53
half
1:30:54
that,
1:30:54
you
1:30:55
know,
1:30:55
I've
1:30:55
done
1:30:55
like
1:30:56
you
1:30:56
told
1:30:57
the
1:30:57
people
1:30:57
over
1:30:58
40
1:30:58
movies
1:30:59
and
1:30:59
300
1:30:59
TV
1:31:00
shows.
1:31:01
And
1:31:01
I
1:31:02
watched
1:31:02
myself
1:31:02
on
1:31:03
some
1:31:04
movies
1:31:04
when
1:31:04
I
1:31:05
was
1:31:05
7
1:31:05
and
1:31:06
8
1:31:06
and
1:31:06
I
1:31:07
remember
1:31:07
nothing.
1:31:08
I
1:31:08
don't
1:31:08
remember
1:31:08
going
1:31:09
to
1:31:09
the
1:31:09
studio.
1:31:10
And
1:31:10
I
1:31:10
loved
1:31:11
the
1:31:11
star
1:31:11
of
1:31:11
the
1:31:12
film.
1:31:12
I
1:31:13
would
1:31:13
see
1:31:13
him
1:31:13
on
1:31:14
Saturday
1:31:14
afternoon
1:31:15
matinees
1:31:16
at
1:31:16
the
1:31:16
theater,
1:31:17
but
1:31:17
didn't
1:31:18
remember
1:31:18
any
1:31:19
vivid
1:31:19
things.
1:31:19
But
1:31:20
if
1:31:20
with
1:31:20
It's
1:31:21
a
1:31:21
Wonderful
1:31:21
Life,
1:31:22
I
1:31:22
remember
1:31:23
everything.
1:31:23
I
1:31:24
remember
1:31:24
getting
1:31:24
up
1:31:25
real
1:31:25
early,
1:31:25
it
1:31:25
was
1:31:25
dark
1:31:26
outside,
1:31:26
and
1:31:27
then
1:31:27
we'd
1:31:27
have
1:31:27
to
1:31:27
take
1:31:28
buses
1:31:28
and
1:31:29
streetcars
1:31:29
out
1:31:30
to
1:31:30
Culver
1:31:30
City
1:31:31
to
1:31:31
be
1:31:31
at
1:31:31
the
1:31:32
studio
1:31:32
on
1:31:32
time.
1:31:33
And
1:31:33
I
1:31:34
remember
1:31:34
walking
1:31:35
onto
1:31:35
the
1:31:35
big
1:31:35
sound
1:31:36
stage
1:31:36
and
1:31:36
there
1:31:37
was
1:31:37
the
1:31:37
Bailey
1:31:38
house
1:31:39
and
1:31:39
you
1:31:39
walk
1:31:40
through
1:31:40
the
1:31:40
doors
1:31:40
and
1:31:41
then
1:31:41
everybody
1:31:42
was
1:31:42
running
1:31:42
around
1:31:43
doing
1:31:43
whatever
1:31:43
they
1:31:44
do,
1:31:44
lighting
1:31:45
and
1:31:45
getting
1:31:45
ready
1:31:46
for
1:31:46
the
1:31:46
day's
1:31:47
work.
1:31:47
And
1:31:47
they'd
1:31:48
send
1:31:48
me
1:31:48
to
1:31:50
wardrobe
1:31:51
and
1:31:51
makeup.
1:31:51
But
1:31:52
of
1:31:52
course,
1:31:52
kids
1:31:53
didn't
1:31:53
use
1:31:53
much
1:31:54
makeup
1:31:54
back
1:31:55
then.
1:31:55
They
1:31:55
just
1:31:55
powder
1:31:56
you
1:31:56
a
1:31:56
little
1:31:57
and
1:31:58
go
1:31:58
to
1:31:59
the
1:31:59
school
1:32:00
and
1:32:01
then
1:32:01
when
1:32:01
they
1:32:01
needed
1:32:02
you,
1:32:02
they
1:32:02
brought
1:32:02
you
1:32:03
out
1:32:03
on
1:32:03
the
1:32:03
set,
1:32:04
and
1:32:04
there
1:32:04
the
1:32:05
day's
1:32:05
work
1:32:05
began.
1:32:06
So.
1:32:07
But
1:32:07
I
1:32:07
remember
1:32:08
vividly,
1:32:09
you
1:32:09
know,
1:32:09
like
1:32:09
this
1:32:09
story
1:32:10
you
1:32:10
were
1:32:10
saying
1:32:10
about
1:32:11
putting
1:32:11
tinsel
1:32:12
on
1:32:12
his
1:32:12
head.
1:32:13
And
1:32:13
Frank
1:32:14
Capper,
1:32:14
the
1:32:14
director,
1:32:15
would
1:32:15
have
1:32:16
me
1:32:16
sitting
1:32:16
on
1:32:17
Jimmy
1:32:17
Stewart's
1:32:18
lap,
1:32:18
and
1:32:18
he
1:32:18
would
1:32:19
tell
1:32:19
me,
1:32:19
now,
1:32:19
you
1:32:19
put
1:32:20
tinsel
1:32:20
on
1:32:21
this
1:32:21
man's
1:32:21
head.
1:32:22
You
1:32:22
know,
1:32:22
he's
1:32:22
supposed
1:32:22
to
1:32:22
be
1:32:23
your
1:32:23
daddy.
1:32:24
And
1:32:24
when
1:32:25
the
1:32:25
dialogue
1:32:25
comes
1:32:26
and
1:32:26
they
1:32:26
rehearsed
1:32:27
it,
1:32:27
I
1:32:27
would
1:32:28
say
1:32:28
the
1:32:28
different
1:32:28
lines,
1:32:31
and
1:32:31
then
1:32:32
we
1:32:32
would
1:32:32
walk
1:32:33
from
1:32:33
the
1:32:33
living
1:32:34
room
1:32:34
towards
1:32:35
the
1:32:35
kitchen.
1:32:35
And
1:32:36
that's
1:32:36
when
1:32:37
he
1:32:37
asked
1:32:38
me
1:32:38
to
1:32:39
do
1:32:39
the
1:32:40
excuse
1:32:40
me
1:32:40
line.
1:32:42
When
1:32:42
my
1:32:43
mom,
1:32:44
the
1:32:44
night
1:32:44
before
1:32:45
went
1:32:45
over
1:32:45
the
1:32:46
script
1:32:46
with
1:32:46
me,
1:32:47
there
1:32:47
was
1:32:47
no
1:32:47
mention
1:32:48
of
1:32:48
excuse
1:32:49
me,
1:32:49
excuse
1:32:50
me.
1:32:50
He
1:32:51
wrote
1:32:51
that
1:32:52
the
1:32:52
night
1:32:52
before.
1:32:53
And
1:32:53
when
1:32:54
he
1:32:54
came
1:32:54
in
1:32:54
the
1:32:54
next
1:32:54
morning,
1:32:56
gave
1:32:56
me
1:32:56
the
1:32:57
directions,
1:32:57
said,
1:32:59
and
1:32:59
we
1:32:59
were
1:33:00
walking
1:33:00
into.
1:33:01
Out
1:33:01
of
1:33:01
the
1:33:02
living
1:33:02
room,
1:33:02
like
1:33:02
I
1:33:02
say,
1:33:03
into
1:33:03
the
1:33:03
kitchen.
1:33:04
And
1:33:04
he
1:33:04
would
1:33:05
stop,
1:33:05
everybody,
1:33:06
everybody
1:33:06
stop.
1:33:07
Then
1:33:08
he'd
1:33:08
squat
1:33:09
down
1:33:09
and
1:33:09
talk
1:33:09
to
1:33:09
me
1:33:10
eye
1:33:10
to
1:33:10
eye.
1:33:10
He
1:33:11
said,
1:33:11
see
1:33:11
where
1:33:11
we
1:33:12
are
1:33:12
here?
1:33:13
Yes,
1:33:13
sir.
1:33:13
So
1:33:14
when
1:33:14
you
1:33:14
get
1:33:14
here,
1:33:15
right
1:33:15
to
1:33:15
this
1:33:15
place,
1:33:16
you
1:33:17
keep
1:33:17
pulling
1:33:17
on
1:33:17
this
1:33:18
man's
1:33:18
coattail.
1:33:19
And
1:33:19
when
1:33:20
you
1:33:20
get
1:33:20
right
1:33:21
here,
1:33:21
you
1:33:22
say,
1:33:22
excuse
1:33:23
me.
1:33:24
You
1:33:24
think
1:33:24
you
1:33:24
can
1:33:24
do
1:33:25
that?
1:33:25
Oh,
1:33:25
yes,
1:33:25
sir.
1:33:26
Excuse
1:33:26
me.
1:33:27
Okay,
1:33:27
everybody,
1:33:28
Action.
1:33:29
So
1:33:29
we
1:33:29
walk
1:33:30
a
1:33:30
little
1:33:30
further,
1:33:30
he
1:33:31
stops,
1:33:31
everybody
1:33:32
says,
1:33:33
scrunch
1:33:33
down
1:33:33
again,
1:33:35
Tells
1:33:35
me
1:33:35
again,
1:33:36
say
1:33:36
that
1:33:36
line
1:33:37
right
1:33:37
here.
1:33:37
See
1:33:37
where
1:33:37
we
1:33:38
are?
1:33:38
Yes,
1:33:38
sir.
1:33:39
Okay,
1:33:39
now
1:33:39
when
1:33:39
you.
1:33:40
Hey,
1:33:40
you
1:33:40
keep
1:33:41
pulling
1:33:41
on
1:33:41
the
1:33:41
man
1:33:42
saying,
1:33:42
you
1:33:42
say,
1:33:43
excuse
1:33:43
me.
1:33:43
Right?
1:33:44
Okay.
1:33:44
So
1:33:44
then
1:33:45
we
1:33:45
did
1:33:45
it
1:33:45
the
1:33:45
third
1:33:46
time,
1:33:47
and
1:33:47
then
1:33:47
they.
1:33:49
We
1:33:49
saw
1:33:49
the.
1:33:49
The
1:33:50
Everybody
1:33:50
saw
1:33:51
what
1:33:51
was
1:33:51
happening.
1:33:51
Then
1:33:52
they
1:33:52
excused
1:33:53
us
1:33:53
and
1:33:54
they
1:33:54
like
1:33:54
this
1:33:55
scene.
1:33:55
Then
1:33:56
they
1:33:56
bring
1:33:56
us
1:33:56
back
1:33:56
and
1:33:57
we
1:33:57
go
1:33:58
through
1:33:58
a
1:33:58
couple
1:33:59
of
1:33:59
takes
1:34:00
and
1:34:00
then
1:34:01
neither
1:34:02
have
1:34:02
it
1:34:02
or
1:34:02
they
1:34:03
haven't
1:34:03
got
1:34:03
it,
1:34:04
but
1:34:04
I
1:34:05
did
1:34:06
it.
1:34:06
And
1:34:07
I
1:34:08
knew
1:34:08
I
1:34:08
did
1:34:08
it
1:34:09
wrong.
1:34:09
I
1:34:10
was
1:34:10
one
1:34:10
beat
1:34:11
off,
1:34:12
and
1:34:13
I
1:34:13
knew
1:34:14
myself.
1:34:14
And
1:34:14
I
1:34:14
look
1:34:15
at
1:34:15
the
1:34:15
movie
1:34:15
today
1:34:16
and
1:34:16
I
1:34:16
know
1:34:17
what
1:34:17
that
1:34:17
little
1:34:17
boy
1:34:18
is
1:34:18
thinking
1:34:18
when
1:34:19
he
1:34:19
goes
1:34:19
to
1:34:19
say,
1:34:20
excuse
1:34:20
me.
1:34:20
The
1:34:20
second
1:34:21
time.
1:34:21
I
1:34:22
said,
1:34:22
he's
1:34:23
thinking,
1:34:23
oh,
1:34:26
I
1:34:26
flubbed.
1:34:27
Oh,
1:34:27
boy.
1:34:28
Yeah.
1:34:28
And
1:34:28
I
1:34:29
see
1:34:29
that.
1:34:29
Isn't
1:34:29
that
1:34:29
strange.
1:34:31
I'm
1:34:31
80
1:34:31
some
1:34:32
odd
1:34:32
years
1:34:32
old
1:34:32
now,
1:34:33
and
1:34:33
I
1:34:33
know
1:34:34
what
1:34:34
that
1:34:34
little
1:34:34
kid
1:34:34
is
1:34:35
thinking.
1:34:35
Because
1:34:37
I
1:34:37
met
1:34:37
Frank
1:34:38
Capra
1:34:39
years
1:34:39
later.
1:34:39
We
1:34:40
did
1:34:40
things
1:34:41
over
1:34:41
at
1:34:41
the
1:34:41
Motion
1:34:42
Picture
1:34:42
Academy.
1:34:43
And
1:34:44
I
1:34:45
talked
1:34:45
to
1:34:45
him
1:34:45
about
1:34:45
that
1:34:46
scene
1:34:46
because
1:34:47
I
1:34:47
asked
1:34:47
him
1:34:47
what
1:34:47
was
1:34:48
the
1:34:48
most
1:34:48
difficult
1:34:48
scene
1:34:49
to
1:34:49
direct
1:34:50
in
1:34:50
the
1:34:50
whole
1:34:50
movie.
1:34:51
And
1:34:51
he
1:34:51
said,
1:34:51
the
1:34:51
one
1:34:52
with
1:34:52
you
1:34:52
kids.
1:34:54
What,
1:34:54
did
1:34:54
we
1:34:55
do
1:34:55
something
1:34:55
wrong?
1:34:56
Oh,
1:34:56
no,
1:34:56
you
1:34:57
kids
1:34:57
were
1:34:57
great.
1:34:57
They
1:34:57
were
1:34:58
fabulous.
1:35:00
So
1:35:00
I.
1:35:02
He
1:35:02
said,
1:35:02
but
1:35:02
there
1:35:02
are
1:35:02
a
1:35:02
lot
1:35:02
of
1:35:03
different
1:35:03
levels
1:35:03
going
1:35:04
on.
1:35:04
You
1:35:05
were
1:35:05
burping,
1:35:06
and
1:35:06
the
1:35:06
other
1:35:06
kid
1:35:06
was
1:35:07
asking
1:35:07
about,
1:35:07
how
1:35:07
do
1:35:08
you
1:35:08
spell
1:35:08
this?
1:35:08
And
1:35:08
the
1:35:08
girl's
1:35:09
pounding
1:35:09
the
1:35:09
piano,
1:35:10
and
1:35:10
here
1:35:10
he
1:35:11
is
1:35:11
living
1:35:12
with
1:35:12
this
1:35:12
thing.
1:35:12
I
1:35:13
lost
1:35:13
$8,000.
1:35:15
Everything's
1:35:15
going
1:35:15
to
1:35:15
be
1:35:16
bad.
1:35:16
My
1:35:16
brother's
1:35:17
coming,
1:35:17
and
1:35:17
we're
1:35:18
just
1:35:18
going
1:35:18
to
1:35:19
be
1:35:19
a
1:35:19
real
1:35:19
mess.
1:35:20
So
1:35:21
he
1:35:21
told
1:35:21
me
1:35:22
that
1:35:22
was
1:35:22
the
1:35:22
most
1:35:22
difficult.
1:35:23
And
1:35:23
for
1:35:24
that
1:35:24
reason,
1:35:25
he
1:35:25
said
1:35:25
people
1:35:26
could
1:35:26
laugh
1:35:26
at
1:35:27
the
1:35:27
scene
1:35:27
instead
1:35:28
of
1:35:28
with
1:35:28
it.
1:35:28
And
1:35:28
that
1:35:28
was
1:35:29
very
1:35:29
difficult
1:35:30
for
1:35:30
me
1:35:30
to
1:35:30
get.
1:35:31
Get
1:35:31
it
1:35:31
to
1:35:31
be
1:35:31
like
1:35:31
a
1:35:32
real
1:35:32
family.
1:35:33
And,
1:35:33
you
1:35:33
know,
1:35:33
you
1:35:34
see
1:35:34
it
1:35:34
now
1:35:34
and
1:35:34
you
1:35:34
go,
1:35:35
oh,
1:35:35
that
1:35:35
sounds
1:35:35
like
1:35:35
a
1:35:35
family.
1:35:36
People
1:35:36
asking
1:35:37
questions.
1:35:37
And
1:35:38
it
1:35:38
just
1:35:38
worked
1:35:38
beautifully,
1:35:39
you
1:35:40
know.
1:35:40
And
1:35:42
I
1:35:42
said,
1:35:42
but
1:35:43
I
1:35:43
want
1:35:43
to
1:35:43
ask
1:35:43
you
1:35:44
something.
1:35:45
Remember
1:35:45
you
1:35:45
asked
1:35:45
me
1:35:46
to
1:35:46
say
1:35:46
excuse
1:35:46
me
1:35:47
three
1:35:47
times?
1:35:48
Well,
1:35:48
on
1:35:48
the
1:35:48
second
1:35:49
one,
1:35:49
I
1:35:49
was
1:35:50
a
1:35:50
beat
1:35:50
off.
1:35:50
I
1:35:51
didn't
1:35:51
say
1:35:51
it
1:35:52
right
1:35:53
like
1:35:53
I
1:35:53
was
1:35:53
supposed
1:35:54
to.
1:35:54
Right.
1:35:54
Why.
1:35:55
Why
1:35:55
didn't
1:35:56
you
1:35:56
yell
1:35:56
cut
1:35:56
and
1:35:57
do
1:35:57
it
1:35:57
over
1:35:57
again?
1:35:58
He
1:35:59
said,
1:35:59
because
1:35:59
it
1:36:00
seems
1:36:00
natural.
1:36:01
I
1:36:01
said,
1:36:02
oh,
1:36:03
isn't
1:36:03
that
1:36:03
funny?
1:36:04
It
1:36:04
bothered
1:36:04
me
1:36:05
all
1:36:05
those
1:36:05
years,
1:36:06
and
1:36:07
I
1:36:07
finally
1:36:07
got
1:36:08
to
1:36:08
talk
1:36:08
to
1:36:09
him
1:36:09
one
1:36:09
on
1:36:09
one.
1:36:10
And
1:36:11
he
1:36:11
told
1:36:11
me
1:36:11
it
1:36:12
just
1:36:12
seemed
1:36:12
natural.
1:36:13
And
1:36:13
I
1:36:14
said,
1:36:14
okay,
1:36:14
nice.
1:36:15
Yeah,
1:36:17
it's
1:36:17
just
1:36:17
incredible,
1:36:18
all
1:36:18
the
1:36:19
minute
1:36:19
little
1:36:20
details
1:36:21
that
1:36:21
I
1:36:21
remember
1:36:23
from
1:36:23
that
1:36:23
movie.
1:36:24
So,
1:36:25
yes,
1:36:25
I
1:36:25
do
1:36:25
remember
1:36:26
a
1:36:26
lot.
1:36:26
Is
1:36:27
the
1:36:27
answer
1:36:27
to
1:36:27
your
1:36:27
question
1:36:28
got
1:36:29
you?
1:36:29
All
1:36:29
right.
1:36:30
Now,
1:36:30
were
1:36:31
you
1:36:31
kids.
1:36:32
I've
1:36:32
spoken
1:36:32
to
1:36:33
Carolyn
1:36:33
Grimes
1:36:34
about
1:36:34
this,
1:36:35
Jimmy.
1:36:35
Were
1:36:36
you
1:36:36
kids
1:36:36
scared
1:36:37
during
1:36:37
that
1:36:38
really
1:36:38
serious
1:36:39
scene
1:36:39
when.
1:36:40
When
1:36:40
Jimmy
1:36:40
comes
1:36:41
in
1:36:41
and
1:36:42
kind
1:36:43
of
1:36:43
snaps
1:36:43
on
1:36:43
the
1:36:44
kids?
1:36:44
Were
1:36:45
you
1:36:45
guys
1:36:45
concerned?
1:36:47
Well,
1:36:47
yeah.
1:36:47
I
1:36:48
write
1:36:48
that
1:36:48
in
1:36:49
my
1:36:49
new
1:36:49
the
1:36:49
Heart
1:36:49
of
1:36:50
what's
1:36:50
Wonderful
1:36:50
Life.
1:36:51
Because
1:36:51
it
1:36:51
was
1:36:52
so
1:36:52
unique,
1:36:52
the
1:36:53
way
1:36:53
that
1:36:54
we
1:36:54
did
1:36:54
this
1:36:55
shot
1:36:57
and
1:36:57
long
1:36:58
shot
1:36:58
and
1:36:58
medium
1:36:59
shot,
1:37:00
but
1:37:00
nobody
1:37:01
covered
1:37:01
us
1:37:02
in
1:37:03
close
1:37:03
ups.
1:37:05
And
1:37:05
so
1:37:05
one
1:37:06
day
1:37:06
we
1:37:06
come
1:37:07
in
1:37:07
on
1:37:07
a
1:37:07
Saturday,
1:37:08
I
1:37:08
think
1:37:08
it
1:37:08
was,
1:37:09
and
1:37:12
the
1:37:13
place
1:37:13
was
1:37:14
the
1:37:14
same
1:37:14
set
1:37:15
and
1:37:15
everything,
1:37:16
but
1:37:16
it
1:37:16
was
1:37:17
for
1:37:17
my
1:37:17
close
1:37:18
up.
1:37:19
And
1:37:20
there
1:37:20
was
1:37:20
this
1:37:20
different
1:37:21
director
1:37:22
directing
1:37:23
us,
1:37:24
and
1:37:26
everything
1:37:27
was
1:37:27
very
1:37:27
quiet
1:37:28
on
1:37:28
the
1:37:28
set,
1:37:28
and
1:37:29
nobody
1:37:29
else
1:37:30
yell,
1:37:30
roll
1:37:31
them.
1:37:32
The
1:37:32
bell
1:37:32
rings
1:37:32
and
1:37:33
all
1:37:33
right,
1:37:33
action.
1:37:34
Nothing.
1:37:34
It
1:37:34
was
1:37:35
very
1:37:35
quiet.
1:37:36
The
1:37:36
guy
1:37:37
just
1:37:37
must
1:37:37
have
1:37:37
looked
1:37:38
at
1:37:38
the
1:37:38
cameraman
1:37:38
and,
1:37:39
like,
1:37:39
go,
1:37:40
start
1:37:40
rolling,
1:37:41
you
1:37:41
know?
1:37:41
And
1:37:42
then
1:37:42
he
1:37:42
would
1:37:42
talk
1:37:43
to
1:37:43
me
1:37:43
and
1:37:44
tell
1:37:44
me
1:37:44
what
1:37:44
was
1:37:44
happening
1:37:45
in
1:37:45
the
1:37:45
scene.
1:37:46
And
1:37:47
I
1:37:47
could.
1:37:47
He
1:37:47
could
1:37:48
shoot
1:37:48
it
1:37:48
for
1:37:49
10
1:37:49
minutes.
1:37:49
That's
1:37:50
how
1:37:50
long
1:37:50
it
1:37:51
takes
1:37:51
the
1:37:51
footage
1:37:52
to
1:37:52
go
1:37:52
through
1:37:52
the
1:37:52
camera.
1:37:53
And
1:37:54
he
1:37:54
just
1:37:54
kept
1:37:55
talking
1:37:55
and
1:37:56
talking.
1:37:57
Now
1:37:57
your
1:37:58
daddy's
1:37:58
going,
1:37:59
you
1:37:59
know,
1:37:59
busting
1:38:00
the
1:38:00
place
1:38:00
up.
1:38:01
He
1:38:01
always
1:38:01
really
1:38:02
mad.
1:38:02
He's.
1:38:02
Oh,
1:38:03
he's.
1:38:04
And
1:38:04
all
1:38:04
these
1:38:05
emotions
1:38:06
that
1:38:06
he
1:38:07
was
1:38:07
bringing
1:38:07
out
1:38:08
in
1:38:08
me,
1:38:09
like
1:38:09
I
1:38:09
said,
1:38:09
he
1:38:09
was
1:38:10
there
1:38:10
seven,
1:38:10
eight
1:38:10
minutes
1:38:11
just
1:38:11
talking
1:38:12
and
1:38:13
getting
1:38:13
me.
1:38:14
And
1:38:14
when
1:38:14
I
1:38:14
started
1:38:15
to
1:38:15
tear
1:38:16
up,
1:38:17
apparently
1:38:18
he
1:38:18
had
1:38:18
what
1:38:18
he
1:38:19
wanted.
1:38:19
And
1:38:19
he
1:38:20
just
1:38:20
tell
1:38:20
the
1:38:20
camera,
1:38:20
cut.
1:38:21
That's
1:38:21
it.
1:38:21
Okay,
1:38:22
that's
1:38:22
really
1:38:22
good.
1:38:23
And
1:38:23
then
1:38:23
let's
1:38:23
get
1:38:24
the
1:38:24
next
1:38:24
kid.
1:38:25
And
1:38:25
they
1:38:25
went
1:38:25
to
1:38:26
the
1:38:26
girl
1:38:26
playing
1:38:26
the
1:38:27
piano.
1:38:27
But
1:38:28
Carol
1:38:29
Coombs,
1:38:30
who
1:38:31
played
1:38:31
the
1:38:31
piano,
1:38:32
she
1:38:32
was
1:38:33
very
1:38:33
frightened.
1:38:34
She
1:38:35
thought
1:38:35
this
1:38:36
guy
1:38:36
was
1:38:36
going
1:38:36
ballistic,
1:38:37
you
1:38:37
know,
1:38:38
and
1:38:38
it
1:38:39
scared
1:38:39
her.
1:38:40
She
1:38:41
shared
1:38:41
that
1:38:41
with
1:38:41
her.
1:38:42
We've
1:38:42
been
1:38:43
together
1:38:43
for
1:38:43
the
1:38:43
last
1:38:44
30
1:38:44
some
1:38:44
odd
1:38:44
years
1:38:45
doing
1:38:46
different
1:38:46
appearances
1:38:47
all
1:38:47
over
1:38:47
for
1:38:48
Target
1:38:48
stores
1:38:49
or
1:38:49
Walgreens.
1:38:50
We
1:38:51
went
1:38:51
to
1:38:52
the
1:38:53
stock
1:38:53
exchange
1:38:54
and
1:38:54
rang
1:38:54
the
1:38:54
bell.
1:38:55
And
1:38:55
over
1:38:55
the
1:38:55
years,
1:38:55
we
1:38:56
even
1:38:56
went
1:38:57
to
1:38:57
Attica
1:38:57
Prison,
1:38:58
showed
1:38:58
the
1:38:58
film
1:38:58
there
1:38:59
and
1:38:59
then
1:38:59
talked
1:38:59
to
1:39:00
the
1:39:00
inmates
1:39:01
for
1:39:01
over
1:39:01
two
1:39:02
hours
1:39:02
afterwards.
1:39:03
It
1:39:03
just.
1:39:04
The
1:39:04
movie
1:39:05
touches
1:39:05
so
1:39:06
many
1:39:06
lives
1:39:08
and
1:39:08
people
1:39:10
didn't
1:39:10
realize
1:39:11
that
1:39:11
in
1:39:11
46.
1:39:12
And
1:39:12
the
1:39:13
picture
1:39:13
came
1:39:13
out
1:39:13
and
1:39:15
they
1:39:15
didn't
1:39:16
buy
1:39:16
into
1:39:17
it.
1:39:17
To
1:39:17
A
1:39:17
Wonderful
1:39:17
Life.
1:39:18
They
1:39:18
didn't
1:39:18
need
1:39:19
that
1:39:19
message.
1:39:20
And
1:39:20
then
1:39:20
I
1:39:20
was
1:39:20
doing
1:39:21
something
1:39:23
about
1:39:24
the
1:39:24
It's
1:39:24
a
1:39:25
wonderful
1:39:25
50th
1:39:26
anniversary
1:39:27
in
1:39:28
Donna
1:39:29
Reed's
1:39:29
hometown.
1:39:31
And
1:39:32
Sheldon
1:39:33
Leonard,
1:39:34
who
1:39:34
played
1:39:34
Nick
1:39:34
the
1:39:34
bartender
1:39:35
in
1:39:36
the
1:39:36
movie,
1:39:37
he
1:39:37
couldn't
1:39:38
make
1:39:38
it
1:39:38
to
1:39:38
it,
1:39:38
but
1:39:39
he
1:39:39
said,
1:39:40
why
1:39:40
don't
1:39:40
you
1:39:41
tape
1:39:41
something
1:39:42
and
1:39:43
bring
1:39:43
a
1:39:43
crew
1:39:43
up
1:39:43
or
1:39:44
whatever,
1:39:44
and
1:39:44
I'll
1:39:45
talk
1:39:45
about
1:39:45
the
1:39:45
movie
1:39:46
and
1:39:46
you
1:39:46
can
1:39:47
play
1:39:47
it
1:39:47
there.
1:39:47
I
1:39:47
said,
1:39:47
oh,
1:39:48
great.
1:39:48
Thank
1:39:48
you.
1:39:49
That's
1:39:49
great.
1:39:49
So
1:39:50
we're
1:39:50
sitting
1:39:50
there
1:39:50
while
1:39:51
they're
1:39:51
lighting
1:39:51
and
1:39:51
everything.
1:39:52
And
1:39:52
I
1:39:52
said,
1:39:53
isn't
1:39:53
that
1:39:53
something
1:39:53
about
1:39:53
this
1:39:54
movie?
1:39:54
It's,
1:39:54
you
1:39:55
know,
1:39:56
plopped
1:39:57
at
1:39:57
the
1:39:57
box
1:39:57
office
1:39:58
and
1:39:58
now
1:39:58
it's
1:39:58
the
1:39:59
biggest
1:39:59
thing,
1:39:59
you
1:40:00
know,
1:40:00
ever.
1:40:01
He
1:40:01
said,
1:40:01
yeah,
1:40:02
I've
1:40:02
thought
1:40:02
of
1:40:02
that
1:40:02
many
1:40:03
times.
1:40:03
He
1:40:03
said,
1:40:03
you
1:40:04
know,
1:40:04
the
1:40:05
movie
1:40:05
never
1:40:05
changed,
1:40:06
Jimmy.
1:40:07
The
1:40:07
people
1:40:08
changed.
1:40:09
They
1:40:10
need
1:40:10
that
1:40:10
message
1:40:11
more
1:40:11
than
1:40:11
ever
1:40:12
now
1:40:13
because
1:40:14
people
1:40:15
just
1:40:15
didn't
1:40:15
feel
1:40:16
they
1:40:16
were
1:40:16
important.
1:40:16
They
1:40:17
went
1:40:17
to
1:40:17
work,
1:40:17
come
1:40:18
home,
1:40:18
do
1:40:19
some
1:40:19
family
1:40:19
stuff,
1:40:20
but
1:40:20
they
1:40:20
never
1:40:21
felt
1:40:22
they
1:40:22
did
1:40:22
anything.
1:40:23
But
1:40:23
when
1:40:24
they
1:40:24
watch
1:40:24
It's
1:40:25
Wonderful
1:40:25
Life,
1:40:26
they
1:40:26
see
1:40:27
that
1:40:27
George
1:40:27
Bailey,
1:40:28
he
1:40:29
didn't
1:40:29
think
1:40:29
he
1:40:29
had
1:40:30
done
1:40:30
anything
1:40:30
either.
1:40:31
He
1:40:31
just
1:40:32
worked,
1:40:32
helped
1:40:32
his
1:40:33
community
1:40:34
however
1:40:34
he
1:40:34
could,
1:40:35
but
1:40:36
no
1:40:36
big
1:40:36
deal.
1:40:37
But
1:40:38
when
1:40:38
he
1:40:38
gets
1:40:39
his
1:40:39
wish
1:40:40
to
1:40:40
see
1:40:40
what
1:40:40
life
1:40:40
would
1:40:41
have
1:40:41
been
1:40:41
like
1:40:41
if
1:40:41
he
1:40:41
had
1:40:42
never
1:40:42
been
1:40:42
born.
1:40:42
He
1:40:43
saw
1:40:44
how
1:40:44
one
1:40:44
man
1:40:45
can
1:40:45
make
1:40:45
a
1:40:45
difference,
1:40:46
that
1:40:46
that
1:40:46
town
1:40:47
all
1:40:47
turned
1:40:47
into
1:40:48
Pottersville,
1:40:49
and
1:40:49
it
1:40:49
just
1:40:49
was
1:40:50
a
1:40:51
company.
1:40:52
It
1:40:52
was
1:40:52
just
1:40:52
awful
1:40:53
as
1:40:53
the
1:40:53
people
1:40:54
see,
1:40:54
you
1:40:55
know,
1:40:55
hookers
1:40:56
and
1:40:56
bars
1:40:57
and
1:40:57
all
1:40:57
sorts
1:40:58
of
1:40:58
things
1:40:59
going
1:40:59
on.
1:41:00
And
1:41:01
he
1:41:01
said,
1:41:02
the
1:41:02
people
1:41:03
see
1:41:03
that
1:41:04
film
1:41:04
and
1:41:04
see
1:41:04
that
1:41:05
George
1:41:05
Bailey
1:41:06
didn't
1:41:06
think
1:41:06
he
1:41:06
was
1:41:06
anything
1:41:07
and
1:41:07
he
1:41:07
was
1:41:08
everything.
1:41:08
So
1:41:08
people
1:41:09
look
1:41:09
at
1:41:09
it
1:41:09
and
1:41:10
say,
1:41:10
I
1:41:10
must
1:41:10
have
1:41:10
done
1:41:11
something,
1:41:11
too.
1:41:12
Even
1:41:12
in
1:41:13
Attica
1:41:14
Prison,
1:41:14
the
1:41:15
talked
1:41:15
to
1:41:15
the
1:41:16
inmates
1:41:16
about
1:41:17
that,
1:41:17
and
1:41:18
they
1:41:18
said,
1:41:18
well,
1:41:18
I
1:41:18
know
1:41:19
I
1:41:19
helped
1:41:20
my
1:41:20
aunt
1:41:21
once,
1:41:21
you
1:41:21
know,
1:41:22
and
1:41:22
whenever
1:41:23
she
1:41:23
had
1:41:23
problems,
1:41:24
I
1:41:24
would
1:41:25
try
1:41:25
and
1:41:25
help
1:41:25
her.
1:41:26
So
1:41:26
I
1:41:26
know
1:41:27
I've
1:41:27
done
1:41:27
something
1:41:28
good.
1:41:29
And
1:41:29
that's
1:41:30
the
1:41:31
message
1:41:31
of
1:41:32
the
1:41:32
film,
1:41:32
that
1:41:32
one
1:41:32
man
1:41:33
can
1:41:33
make
1:41:33
a
1:41:33
difference,
1:41:34
and
1:41:34
that's
1:41:34
us.
1:41:35
That's
1:41:35
each
1:41:35
one
1:41:35
of
1:41:36
us.
1:41:36
And
1:41:36
if
1:41:36
we
1:41:36
weren't
1:41:37
around,
1:41:38
there
1:41:38
would
1:41:38
be
1:41:38
an
1:41:39
awful
1:41:39
hole
1:41:39
in
1:41:40
this
1:41:40
life.
1:41:41
It.
1:41:41
It
1:41:41
would
1:41:42
make
1:41:42
a
1:41:42
great
1:41:42
difference
1:41:43
if
1:41:43
just
1:41:44
one
1:41:44
of
1:41:44
us
1:41:45
was
1:41:45
taken
1:41:45
out
1:41:45
of
1:41:46
the
1:41:46
equation,
1:41:46
because
1:41:47
we're
1:41:47
all
1:41:47
here
1:41:48
to
1:41:48
do
1:41:48
something.
1:41:51
And
1:41:52
the
1:41:53
movie
1:41:53
shows
1:41:53
that.
1:41:54
And
1:41:54
the
1:41:54
people
1:41:55
see
1:41:55
that
1:41:55
I
1:41:56
am
1:41:56
something.
1:41:56
I'm
1:41:57
not
1:41:57
a
1:41:57
nobody.
1:41:58
I
1:41:58
may
1:41:58
not
1:41:59
be
1:41:59
the
1:41:59
most
1:41:59
handsome
1:42:00
person
1:42:00
or
1:42:01
have
1:42:02
a
1:42:02
billion
1:42:02
dollars,
1:42:03
but
1:42:03
I
1:42:04
can
1:42:04
make
1:42:04
a
1:42:04
difference.
1:42:05
I
1:42:06
know
1:42:06
it
1:42:06
because
1:42:07
I
1:42:07
saw
1:42:07
George
1:42:07
Bailey.
1:42:08
He
1:42:08
didn't
1:42:09
think
1:42:09
he
1:42:09
made
1:42:09
a
1:42:09
difference
1:42:10
either.
1:42:11
So
1:42:12
what?
1:42:12
People
1:42:12
gravitate
1:42:13
to
1:42:13
that
1:42:14
message.
1:42:15
Right,
1:42:15
Jimmy?
1:42:16
That
1:42:16
still
1:42:17
resonates
1:42:17
today.
1:42:18
Definitely.
1:42:19
We
1:42:19
are
1:42:19
speaking
1:42:20
with
1:42:20
Jimmy
1:42:20
Hawkins
1:42:21
tonight,
1:42:21
who's
1:42:21
Tommy
1:42:22
Bailey
1:42:22
and
1:42:22
It's
1:42:23
a
1:42:23
Wonderful
1:42:23
Life.
1:42:24
He's
1:42:24
got
1:42:24
a
1:42:24
new
1:42:24
book
1:42:25
on
1:42:25
It's
1:42:25
a
1:42:25
Wonderful
1:42:26
Life.
1:42:27
You
1:42:27
folks
1:42:28
should
1:42:28
check
1:42:28
that
1:42:28
out.
1:42:28
It's
1:42:29
available
1:42:29
on
1:42:31
Amazon.
1:42:32
You'll
1:42:32
be
1:42:33
able
1:42:33
to
1:42:33
see
1:42:33
that
1:42:34
now.
1:42:36
We
1:42:36
have
1:42:36
about
1:42:37
15
1:42:37
minutes
1:42:37
to
1:42:38
go.
1:42:38
You
1:42:38
worked
1:42:39
on
1:42:39
Donna
1:42:39
Reed's
1:42:40
series
1:42:40
with
1:42:40
her,
1:42:41
Jimmy?
1:42:42
Yes,
1:42:43
the
1:42:43
very
1:42:44
first
1:42:44
episode
1:42:44
they
1:42:45
did
1:42:45
of
1:42:45
the
1:42:45
Donna
1:42:45
Reed
1:42:46
Show.
1:42:46
I
1:42:46
just
1:42:46
finished
1:42:47
a
1:42:47
series
1:42:47
for
1:42:47
Gene
1:42:48
Autry
1:42:48
for
1:42:48
six
1:42:49
years
1:42:49
called
1:42:50
Annie
1:42:50
Oakley.
1:42:51
And
1:42:51
it's
1:42:52
very
1:42:52
popular
1:42:53
western
1:42:53
of
1:42:54
its
1:42:54
period
1:42:54
from
1:42:55
1953
1:42:56
for
1:42:57
four
1:42:57
or
1:42:57
five
1:42:57
years.
1:42:58
And
1:43:00
I
1:43:00
had
1:43:00
grown
1:43:00
up,
1:43:01
and
1:43:01
so
1:43:02
this
1:43:02
got
1:43:03
a
1:43:03
call
1:43:03
from
1:43:03
my
1:43:03
agent
1:43:04
to
1:43:04
go
1:43:04
to
1:43:05
Columbia
1:43:06
Studios
1:43:07
for
1:43:07
an
1:43:07
interview
1:43:08
for
1:43:08
the
1:43:08
Donna
1:43:08
Reed
1:43:08
Show.
1:43:09
Okay.
1:43:09
So
1:43:10
I
1:43:10
got
1:43:10
there
1:43:11
and
1:43:11
got
1:43:11
in
1:43:11
the
1:43:12
office
1:43:12
with
1:43:12
the
1:43:12
producer
1:43:13
and
1:43:13
director
1:43:13
and
1:43:13
writers,
1:43:14
and
1:43:14
they
1:43:15
explained
1:43:15
to
1:43:15
me
1:43:16
what
1:43:16
the
1:43:17
part
1:43:17
was.
1:43:17
You
1:43:18
know,
1:43:18
you're
1:43:18
the
1:43:19
boyfriend
1:43:19
of
1:43:19
the
1:43:20
young
1:43:20
girl
1:43:20
on
1:43:21
the
1:43:21
show
1:43:21
and
1:43:22
blah,
1:43:22
blah,
1:43:22
blah.
1:43:23
So
1:43:24
in
1:43:25
talking
1:43:25
with
1:43:25
them
1:43:26
and
1:43:26
reading
1:43:26
it,
1:43:27
they
1:43:27
hired
1:43:28
me.
1:43:29
So
1:43:29
the
1:43:30
first
1:43:30
day
1:43:30
we
1:43:31
were
1:43:31
there
1:43:31
on
1:43:31
the
1:43:31
set,
1:43:32
you
1:43:32
sit
1:43:33
around
1:43:33
the
1:43:33
table
1:43:34
and
1:43:34
read
1:43:34
the
1:43:34
script
1:43:35
to
1:43:35
see
1:43:35
the
1:43:36
writers
1:43:36
of
1:43:36
their
1:43:37
director,
1:43:37
Everybody
1:43:38
to
1:43:38
see,
1:43:38
well,
1:43:39
that's
1:43:39
a
1:43:39
little
1:43:39
weak
1:43:40
there.
1:43:40
Let's
1:43:41
do
1:43:42
more
1:43:42
to
1:43:42
fix
1:43:43
that
1:43:43
scene
1:43:43
up
1:43:43
or
1:43:44
whatever,
1:43:44
right?
1:43:45
So
1:43:46
before
1:43:46
we
1:43:46
sat
1:43:47
down,
1:43:47
I
1:43:47
saw
1:43:48
Donna
1:43:48
Reed
1:43:49
at
1:43:49
the
1:43:49
other
1:43:49
end
1:43:49
of
1:43:50
the
1:43:50
table.
1:43:51
So
1:43:51
I
1:43:51
walked
1:43:51
down
1:43:51
to
1:43:52
the.
1:43:52
To
1:43:53
her
1:43:54
and
1:43:54
I
1:43:54
said,
1:43:55
Excuse
1:43:55
me,
1:43:55
Ms.
1:43:55
Reed,
1:43:56
my
1:43:56
name
1:43:56
is
1:43:56
Jimmy
1:43:56
Hawkins.
1:43:57
I
1:43:57
played
1:43:57
your
1:43:58
son
1:43:58
Tommy
1:43:58
Bailey,
1:43:59
and
1:43:59
It's
1:43:59
a
1:43:59
Wonderful
1:43:59
Life.
1:44:00
She
1:44:00
said,
1:44:00
oh,
1:44:01
yes,
1:44:01
Yes,
1:44:01
I
1:44:01
know.
1:44:02
They
1:44:02
told
1:44:02
me
1:44:03
that
1:44:03
they
1:44:03
got
1:44:03
you.
1:44:03
Oh,
1:44:04
that's.
1:44:04
That's
1:44:04
wonderful.
1:44:05
You
1:44:05
know,
1:44:05
we
1:44:05
gave
1:44:06
you
1:44:06
a
1:44:06
nickname
1:44:07
while
1:44:07
we
1:44:07
were
1:44:08
doing
1:44:08
It's
1:44:08
a
1:44:08
Wonderful
1:44:09
Life.
1:44:09
I
1:44:10
said,
1:44:10
a
1:44:10
nickname?
1:44:11
She
1:44:11
said,
1:44:11
yeah,
1:44:12
what
1:44:12
was
1:44:13
that?
1:44:13
She
1:44:13
said,
1:44:14
we
1:44:14
used
1:44:14
to
1:44:14
call
1:44:14
you
1:44:15
Rip
1:44:15
Van
1:44:15
Winkle.
1:44:16
I
1:44:17
said,
1:44:17
really?
1:44:18
But
1:44:18
why?
1:44:19
Why
1:44:19
would
1:44:20
you
1:44:20
call
1:44:20
me
1:44:20
Rip
1:44:20
Van
1:44:21
Winkles?
1:44:21
She
1:44:22
said,
1:44:22
you
1:44:22
were
1:44:22
so
1:44:22
cute
1:44:23
under
1:44:23
those
1:44:24
hot
1:44:24
lights,
1:44:25
you
1:44:25
could
1:44:25
fall
1:44:25
asleep.
1:44:26
No
1:44:26
matter
1:44:26
what
1:44:27
commotion
1:44:27
was
1:44:27
going
1:44:28
on,
1:44:28
it
1:44:28
didn't
1:44:29
bother
1:44:29
your
1:44:29
jaw.
1:44:30
You
1:44:30
fell
1:44:30
asleep.
1:44:31
And
1:44:31
then
1:44:31
when
1:44:31
they
1:44:32
were
1:44:32
ready
1:44:32
to
1:44:32
use
1:44:33
you,
1:44:33
they'd
1:44:33
wake
1:44:33
you
1:44:33
up
1:44:34
and
1:44:34
you'd
1:44:34
be
1:44:35
bright
1:44:35
eyed
1:44:35
and
1:44:35
bushy
1:44:36
tailed
1:44:37
and
1:44:37
do
1:44:37
the
1:44:37
same
1:44:38
just
1:44:38
like
1:44:38
you
1:44:38
were
1:44:39
supposed
1:44:39
to.
1:44:39
And
1:44:40
she
1:44:40
said,
1:44:40
that's
1:44:40
why
1:44:40
we
1:44:41
called
1:44:41
you
1:44:41
Rip
1:44:41
Van
1:44:41
Winkle.
1:44:42
I
1:44:42
said
1:44:43
something.
1:44:43
This
1:44:44
lady
1:44:45
remembers
1:44:45
me.
1:44:45
Oh,
1:44:46
that
1:44:46
was
1:44:46
12
1:44:46
years
1:44:47
ago.
1:44:47
Yeah.
1:44:48
And
1:44:48
she
1:44:49
said
1:44:49
that
1:44:49
right
1:44:49
off
1:44:50
the
1:44:50
first
1:44:50
thing.
1:44:51
Oh,
1:44:51
you
1:44:52
had
1:44:52
a
1:44:52
nickname
1:44:53
on
1:44:53
it.
1:44:53
You
1:44:53
know,
1:44:54
so.
1:44:54
And
1:44:55
eight
1:44:55
years
1:44:55
later,
1:44:55
I
1:44:56
was
1:44:56
still
1:44:56
doing
1:44:56
the
1:44:56
show.
1:44:57
We
1:44:57
just
1:44:57
hit
1:44:57
it
1:44:58
off
1:44:58
great.
1:44:58
And
1:44:59
I
1:44:59
was,
1:44:59
you
1:45:00
know,
1:45:00
the
1:45:00
boyfriend
1:45:00
of
1:45:01
the
1:45:01
daughter.
1:45:01
And
1:45:02
it
1:45:02
was
1:45:02
just
1:45:02
a
1:45:03
wonderful
1:45:03
experience
1:45:04
working
1:45:05
with
1:45:05
Shelley
1:45:05
Fabre
1:45:06
again.
1:45:06
She
1:45:06
was
1:45:06
my
1:45:06
girlfriend
1:45:07
on
1:45:07
Annie
1:45:08
Oakley.
1:45:08
So,
1:45:09
you
1:45:09
know,
1:45:09
things
1:45:11
work
1:45:11
out
1:45:11
that
1:45:11
way
1:45:12
sometimes.
1:45:12
But
1:45:12
Donna
1:45:13
Reed
1:45:13
was
1:45:13
the
1:45:13
best.
1:45:14
There's
1:45:14
just
1:45:15
wonderful
1:45:15
lady.
1:45:16
And
1:45:17
that's
1:45:17
great
1:45:18
to
1:45:18
work
1:45:18
with
1:45:18
and
1:45:19
that's
1:45:21
just
1:45:22
nice
1:45:22
memories.
1:45:23
Certainly,
1:45:23
Jimmy,
1:45:25
I
1:45:25
can
1:45:25
see
1:45:25
that
1:45:25
now.
1:45:26
I'm
1:45:26
a
1:45:26
big
1:45:27
fan
1:45:27
of
1:45:27
Leave
1:45:27
it
1:45:27
to
1:45:28
Beaver
1:45:28
and
1:45:28
I
1:45:28
know
1:45:28
pretty
1:45:29
much
1:45:29
every
1:45:29
episode.
1:45:31
How
1:45:31
many
1:45:31
episodes
1:45:32
of
1:45:32
Beaver
1:45:32
were
1:45:32
you
1:45:33
were
1:45:33
you
1:45:33
in,
1:45:33
Jim?
1:45:34
And
1:45:34
what
1:45:35
can
1:45:35
you
1:45:35
tell
1:45:35
me
1:45:35
about
1:45:36
the
1:45:36
episode
1:45:37
if
1:45:37
you
1:45:37
remember
1:45:37
it?
1:45:38
Yeah,
1:45:39
well,
1:45:39
I
1:45:40
was
1:45:40
doing
1:45:42
shows.
1:45:44
Conley
1:45:45
Mosher,
1:45:46
who
1:45:46
produced
1:45:46
Leave
1:45:47
it
1:45:47
to
1:45:47
Beaver,
1:45:47
also
1:45:48
produced
1:45:49
the
1:45:49
Munsters
1:45:50
and
1:45:51
a
1:45:51
couple
1:45:52
other
1:45:52
series,
1:45:52
Bringing
1:45:53
Up
1:45:53
Buddy.
1:45:54
They
1:45:54
did
1:45:54
one
1:45:54
that
1:45:55
I
1:45:55
did,
1:45:55
a
1:45:56
regular
1:45:56
called
1:45:56
Ichabod
1:45:57
and
1:45:57
Me.
1:45:58
But
1:45:59
at
1:45:59
this
1:46:00
time,
1:46:00
when
1:46:00
I
1:46:00
was
1:46:00
doing
1:46:01
these
1:46:01
other
1:46:01
shows
1:46:02
for
1:46:02
them,
1:46:02
they
1:46:03
liked
1:46:03
my
1:46:03
work
1:46:04
and
1:46:05
they
1:46:05
wrote
1:46:06
an
1:46:06
episode
1:46:07
of
1:46:07
Leave
1:46:07
it
1:46:07
to
1:46:07
Beaver
1:46:08
for
1:46:09
me.
1:46:09
Wow.
1:46:10
And
1:46:11
I
1:46:11
was
1:46:12
doing
1:46:12
Nazi
1:46:13
and
1:46:13
Harriet
1:46:13
at
1:46:14
the
1:46:14
time
1:46:14
or
1:46:14
something,
1:46:15
and
1:46:15
they
1:46:15
said,
1:46:15
no,
1:46:16
we'll
1:46:16
wait,
1:46:16
we'll
1:46:17
wait.
1:46:17
We'll
1:46:17
just
1:46:19
wait
1:46:19
a
1:46:19
week
1:46:19
or
1:46:19
so
1:46:20
until
1:46:20
you
1:46:21
are
1:46:21
available.
1:46:22
And
1:46:22
so
1:46:22
they
1:46:23
wrote
1:46:23
this
1:46:23
episode
1:46:24
for
1:46:25
me
1:46:26
called
1:46:27
Wally
1:46:27
and
1:46:27
Dudley.
1:46:29
I
1:46:30
was
1:46:30
a
1:46:30
new
1:46:30
kid
1:46:31
on
1:46:31
the
1:46:31
block
1:46:32
and
1:46:32
my
1:46:32
mom
1:46:33
and
1:46:33
Beaver's
1:46:34
mom
1:46:34
were
1:46:34
girlfriends
1:46:35
when
1:46:35
they
1:46:36
were
1:46:36
younger
1:46:36
and
1:46:37
they
1:46:37
moved
1:46:37
into
1:46:37
town.
1:46:38
So
1:46:41
the
1:46:41
Tony
1:46:42
Dow
1:46:42
character,
1:46:43
Wally,
1:46:44
was
1:46:44
asked
1:46:44
by
1:46:45
the
1:46:45
mom,
1:46:45
now
1:46:45
take
1:46:45
him
1:46:46
to
1:46:46
school
1:46:46
and
1:46:46
introduce
1:46:47
him
1:46:47
around.
1:46:48
You
1:46:48
know,
1:46:48
he's
1:46:49
new
1:46:49
here
1:46:49
and
1:46:49
you
1:46:49
know,
1:46:50
mom,
1:46:50
I
1:46:50
don't
1:46:50
want.
1:46:51
So
1:46:51
they
1:46:51
get
1:46:52
stuck
1:46:52
with
1:46:52
this
1:46:52
kid
1:46:53
me,
1:46:53
because
1:46:54
I
1:46:54
Was,
1:46:54
you
1:46:54
know,
1:46:55
kind
1:46:55
of
1:46:55
square.
1:46:56
I
1:46:56
wore
1:46:56
a
1:46:56
hat
1:46:57
and
1:46:57
a
1:46:57
overcoat
1:46:58
to
1:46:58
school.
1:46:59
Who
1:46:59
died?
1:47:00
Beaver
1:47:00
said,
1:47:01
when
1:47:01
you
1:47:01
showed
1:47:01
up.
1:47:02
Yeah,
1:47:03
right.
1:47:03
Yeah.
1:47:04
So,
1:47:05
yeah,
1:47:05
it
1:47:05
was
1:47:05
a
1:47:05
very
1:47:06
cute
1:47:06
show.
1:47:06
I
1:47:07
had
1:47:07
a
1:47:07
lot
1:47:07
of
1:47:07
fun.
1:47:08
And
1:47:09
Hugh
1:47:10
Beaumont,
1:47:10
the
1:47:10
actor
1:47:11
that
1:47:11
played
1:47:11
the
1:47:11
dad,
1:47:12
directed
1:47:12
the
1:47:12
episode.
1:47:14
So,
1:47:15
yeah,
1:47:15
he
1:47:15
did
1:47:16
a
1:47:16
few.
1:47:16
Yeah,
1:47:17
yeah.
1:47:18
So
1:47:19
it
1:47:19
was
1:47:20
great
1:47:20
to
1:47:21
do
1:47:21
the
1:47:21
show.
1:47:21
It
1:47:21
was
1:47:22
very
1:47:22
cute.
1:47:24
And
1:47:24
of
1:47:24
course,
1:47:25
I
1:47:25
went
1:47:25
on
1:47:25
to
1:47:26
do
1:47:26
this
1:47:26
Ichabod
1:47:27
Me
1:47:27
series
1:47:27
for
1:47:28
the
1:47:28
same
1:47:28
producers
1:47:29
with
1:47:30
Robert
1:47:30
Sterling.
1:47:31
And
1:47:32
it
1:47:32
was
1:47:33
a
1:47:33
nice
1:47:33
experience.
1:47:35
Back
1:47:35
then,
1:47:36
most
1:47:36
shows
1:47:37
were
1:47:37
done
1:47:38
in
1:47:38
three,
1:47:39
three
1:47:39
days.
1:47:40
You
1:47:40
rehearse,
1:47:41
then
1:47:41
you
1:47:42
shoot
1:47:42
for
1:47:42
three
1:47:42
days
1:47:43
and
1:47:43
get
1:47:43
the
1:47:44
half
1:47:44
hour
1:47:44
show
1:47:45
over.
1:47:45
That
1:47:46
was
1:47:46
all
1:47:46
of
1:47:46
them.
1:47:46
There
1:47:47
was
1:47:47
only
1:47:47
two
1:47:48
shows
1:47:48
that
1:47:49
were
1:47:49
different,
1:47:50
and
1:47:50
that
1:47:50
was
1:47:50
the
1:47:50
Adventures
1:47:51
of
1:47:51
Ozzie
1:47:52
and
1:47:52
Harriet.
1:47:54
That
1:47:54
was
1:47:55
different.
1:47:55
And
1:47:55
My
1:47:56
Three
1:47:56
Sons,
1:47:57
they
1:47:57
were
1:47:57
completely
1:47:58
different.
1:47:59
If
1:47:59
you
1:47:59
got
1:47:59
hired
1:48:00
for
1:48:00
My
1:48:01
Three
1:48:01
Sons
1:48:01
and
1:48:01
had
1:48:02
more
1:48:02
than
1:48:03
a
1:48:03
couple
1:48:03
of
1:48:04
days
1:48:04
on
1:48:05
the
1:48:05
show,
1:48:06
they
1:48:07
would
1:48:07
book
1:48:07
you
1:48:08
March
1:48:09
4th
1:48:11
and.
1:48:13
June
1:48:14
3rd.
1:48:15
Okay.
1:48:16
It
1:48:16
was
1:48:17
different
1:48:17
because
1:48:17
they
1:48:18
did
1:48:18
all
1:48:19
of
1:48:19
Fred
1:48:20
McMurray's
1:48:20
stuff
1:48:21
at
1:48:22
one
1:48:22
time,
1:48:22
like
1:48:23
in
1:48:23
a
1:48:23
two,
1:48:23
three
1:48:23
month
1:48:24
period,
1:48:25
all
1:48:25
39
1:48:26
shows.
1:48:26
And
1:48:27
if
1:48:27
you
1:48:27
were
1:48:27
in
1:48:27
a
1:48:27
scene
1:48:28
with
1:48:28
him
1:48:28
at
1:48:29
the
1:48:29
house
1:48:29
or
1:48:30
wherever,
1:48:32
you
1:48:32
had
1:48:33
to
1:48:33
shoot
1:48:33
it
1:48:34
with
1:48:34
him.
1:48:34
But.
1:48:35
But
1:48:35
they
1:48:35
would
1:48:36
take
1:48:36
three
1:48:36
months
1:48:37
to
1:48:37
do
1:48:37
all
1:48:37
that
1:48:37
stuff.
1:48:38
And
1:48:38
then
1:48:38
at
1:48:39
the
1:48:39
end
1:48:39
of
1:48:39
the
1:48:39
three
1:48:40
months,
1:48:40
they'd
1:48:40
start
1:48:40
picking
1:48:41
up
1:48:41
the.
1:48:42
If
1:48:43
you
1:48:43
were
1:48:43
in
1:48:43
another
1:48:43
scene
1:48:44
without
1:48:44
him,
1:48:45
you
1:48:45
would
1:48:45
do
1:48:46
it
1:48:46
then.
1:48:47
So,
1:48:49
you
1:48:49
know,
1:48:49
they'd
1:48:49
hire
1:48:50
you
1:48:50
and
1:48:50
three
1:48:50
months
1:48:51
later
1:48:51
you'd
1:48:52
have
1:48:52
to
1:48:52
have
1:48:52
the
1:48:52
same
1:48:52
haircut,
1:48:53
you
1:48:54
know,
1:48:54
and
1:48:54
it
1:48:55
was.
1:48:55
It
1:48:55
was
1:48:55
a
1:48:55
whole
1:48:56
big
1:48:56
deal.
1:48:56
And
1:48:57
then
1:48:57
Ozzy
1:48:57
and
1:48:57
Harriet,
1:48:58
they
1:48:59
just
1:48:59
shot.
1:48:59
Every
1:49:00
day
1:49:00
they'd
1:49:01
shoot
1:49:02
a
1:49:02
show,
1:49:02
maybe
1:49:03
six,
1:49:03
seven
1:49:03
days
1:49:04
to
1:49:04
do
1:49:05
a
1:49:05
show.
1:49:06
They
1:49:07
were
1:49:08
just
1:49:08
different.
1:49:09
You
1:49:09
didn't
1:49:10
do
1:49:10
them
1:49:10
in
1:49:10
three
1:49:10
days
1:49:10
and
1:49:11
get
1:49:11
them
1:49:11
done
1:49:11
fast.
1:49:12
Boom.
1:49:12
Now
1:49:13
every
1:49:13
day
1:49:14
you
1:49:14
shoot
1:49:15
a
1:49:15
show
1:49:15
and
1:49:15
it
1:49:15
might
1:49:16
take
1:49:16
five
1:49:16
or
1:49:16
six
1:49:17
days
1:49:17
to
1:49:17
do
1:49:17
it,
1:49:18
but
1:49:19
all
1:49:19
the
1:49:19
others
1:49:19
were
1:49:20
three
1:49:20
days
1:49:20
and
1:49:21
you're
1:49:21
in
1:49:21
and
1:49:21
you
1:49:22
were
1:49:22
out.
1:49:24
But
1:49:24
that
1:49:24
was
1:49:24
very
1:49:25
unique,
1:49:25
those
1:49:26
two
1:49:27
series.
1:49:27
You
1:49:27
know,
1:49:27
that's
1:49:28
a
1:49:28
lot
1:49:28
of
1:49:28
shows
1:49:29
that
1:49:29
they
1:49:29
did.
1:49:29
Sure.
1:49:30
They
1:49:30
too
1:49:31
were
1:49:31
unique
1:49:32
like
1:49:32
that.
1:49:32
So
1:49:33
interesting.
1:49:34
Yeah.
1:49:35
And
1:49:35
then
1:49:37
everybody,
1:49:38
whenever
1:49:38
I
1:49:38
appear
1:49:39
someplace
1:49:40
on
1:49:40
behalf
1:49:41
of
1:49:41
It's
1:49:42
Wonderful
1:49:42
Life,
1:49:42
we.
1:49:42
We
1:49:43
just
1:49:43
got
1:49:43
back
1:49:43
from
1:49:43
Seneca
1:49:44
Falls,
1:49:44
New
1:49:45
York,
1:49:45
at
1:49:46
the
1:49:46
It's
1:49:46
Wonderful
1:49:47
Life
1:49:47
Festival
1:49:48
for.
1:49:48
At
1:49:48
the
1:49:48
It's
1:49:49
Wonderful
1:49:49
Life
1:49:49
Museum.
1:49:50
Right.
1:49:51
And
1:49:53
we
1:49:54
go
1:49:54
there,
1:49:55
you
1:49:55
know,
1:49:56
once
1:49:56
a
1:49:56
year
1:49:57
and
1:49:57
meet.
1:49:58
Meet
1:49:58
the
1:49:59
people.
1:49:59
And
1:50:00
they
1:50:00
all
1:50:00
talk
1:50:01
about
1:50:02
It's
1:50:02
Wonderful
1:50:02
live.
1:50:03
They
1:50:03
ask
1:50:03
questions.
1:50:04
And
1:50:05
then,
1:50:05
then
1:50:06
at
1:50:06
the
1:50:06
end
1:50:06
of
1:50:07
it,
1:50:07
they
1:50:07
kind
1:50:08
of
1:50:08
lean
1:50:09
into
1:50:09
me
1:50:09
and
1:50:10
say,
1:50:10
how
1:50:11
was
1:50:11
Elvis.
1:50:12
Oh,
1:50:13
yeah,
1:50:13
right.
1:50:14
I
1:50:14
wanted
1:50:14
to
1:50:14
ask
1:50:14
you.
1:50:15
Yeah,
1:50:16
go
1:50:16
ahead.
1:50:16
Yeah.
1:50:17
And
1:50:18
everybody
1:50:18
loved
1:50:18
Elvis.
1:50:19
Everybody.
1:50:19
They
1:50:20
just
1:50:21
want
1:50:21
to
1:50:21
know,
1:50:21
how
1:50:21
was
1:50:22
Elvis?
1:50:22
You
1:50:23
know,
1:50:23
so
1:50:24
it's.
1:50:24
It's
1:50:25
great
1:50:25
to
1:50:25
be
1:50:26
doing
1:50:26
something
1:50:27
almost
1:50:27
80
1:50:27
years
1:50:28
ago
1:50:28
and
1:50:29
be
1:50:29
able
1:50:29
to
1:50:30
talk
1:50:30
about
1:50:30
all
1:50:31
the
1:50:31
other
1:50:31
shows
1:50:32
I
1:50:32
was
1:50:32
fortunate
1:50:33
enough
1:50:33
to
1:50:34
work
1:50:34
on.
1:50:34
And
1:50:35
I
1:50:36
loved
1:50:36
it.
1:50:36
I
1:50:37
loved
1:50:37
the
1:50:37
motion
1:50:38
picture
1:50:38
business
1:50:38
a
1:50:39
lot.
1:50:39
Really
1:50:40
enjoyed
1:50:41
doing
1:50:41
everything.
1:50:41
I
1:50:42
just
1:50:43
hated
1:50:44
to
1:50:44
see
1:50:44
it
1:50:44
end.
1:50:45
You
1:50:45
know,
1:50:45
you're
1:50:46
on
1:50:46
a
1:50:46
picture
1:50:46
with
1:50:47
Elvis
1:50:47
for
1:50:47
seven
1:50:48
weeks,
1:50:48
and
1:50:48
it
1:50:49
goes
1:50:49
fast,
1:50:50
real
1:50:50
fast,
1:50:51
and
1:50:52
you
1:50:52
go,
1:50:52
oh,
1:50:52
shoot.
1:50:53
I
1:50:54
wish
1:50:54
I
1:50:54
could
1:50:55
stand
1:50:55
in
1:50:55
the
1:50:55
middle
1:50:56
of
1:50:56
the
1:50:56
set
1:50:56
and
1:50:57
take
1:50:57
it
1:50:57
all
1:50:57
in.
1:50:58
I
1:50:58
try
1:50:58
to.
1:50:59
I
1:50:59
actually
1:50:59
sit,
1:51:00
stand
1:51:00
on
1:51:01
the
1:51:01
set
1:51:01
thinking,
1:51:02
oh,
1:51:02
I'm
1:51:02
gonna
1:51:03
be
1:51:03
finished
1:51:03
with
1:51:04
this
1:51:04
one
1:51:04
day.
1:51:04
And
1:51:04
I
1:51:05
want
1:51:05
to
1:51:05
take
1:51:05
it
1:51:05
all
1:51:05
in
1:51:06
and
1:51:06
have
1:51:07
it
1:51:07
with
1:51:07
me
1:51:07
because
1:51:07
it's
1:51:08
such
1:51:08
a
1:51:08
good
1:51:08
time
1:51:09
and
1:51:09
you
1:51:09
have
1:51:10
such
1:51:10
fun.
1:51:11
And
1:51:11
I've
1:51:12
been
1:51:12
very
1:51:12
lucky
1:51:13
to
1:51:13
be
1:51:13
on
1:51:13
sets
1:51:14
that
1:51:15
it's
1:51:15
up
1:51:15
and
1:51:16
a
1:51:16
lot
1:51:16
of
1:51:16
fun
1:51:16
to
1:51:17
do.
1:51:17
Everybody's
1:51:18
happy.
1:51:19
Elvis
1:51:20
was
1:51:20
a
1:51:20
great
1:51:20
guy
1:51:21
and
1:51:22
played
1:51:23
jokes
1:51:23
on
1:51:23
people,
1:51:24
and
1:51:24
he's
1:51:25
just
1:51:25
a
1:51:25
very
1:51:26
nice
1:51:26
person.
1:51:28
I
1:51:28
don't
1:51:29
think
1:51:29
he
1:51:29
deserved
1:51:29
the
1:51:30
ending
1:51:30
he
1:51:31
got,
1:51:31
but
1:51:31
he
1:51:32
was
1:51:32
very
1:51:33
nice
1:51:33
guy.
1:51:33
Very,
1:51:34
very.
1:51:34
If
1:51:34
you
1:51:34
want
1:51:35
to
1:51:35
find
1:51:35
out
1:51:35
more
1:51:36
about
1:51:36
Jimmy's
1:51:37
experience
1:51:38
with.
1:51:38
With
1:51:38
Elvis
1:51:38
Presley,
1:51:40
the
1:51:40
best
1:51:40
thing
1:51:40
about
1:51:41
writing
1:51:41
his
1:51:42
new
1:51:42
book,
1:51:43
you'll
1:51:43
have
1:51:43
to
1:51:43
pick
1:51:44
it
1:51:44
up.
1:51:45
We're
1:51:45
not
1:51:45
going
1:51:46
to
1:51:46
blow
1:51:46
any
1:51:47
surprises
1:51:47
here.
1:51:49
Jimmy
1:51:49
Hawkins,
1:51:50
of
1:51:50
course,
1:51:50
has
1:51:51
been
1:51:51
with
1:51:51
us
1:51:51
tonight
1:51:52
on
1:51:52
Sports
1:51:52
Talk
1:51:53
New
1:51:53
York
1:51:53
for
1:51:53
our
1:51:54
holiday
1:51:54
show.
1:51:55
And
1:51:56
his
1:51:56
new
1:51:57
book
1:51:57
is
1:51:57
called
1:51:58
the
1:51:58
Heart
1:51:58
of
1:51:58
It's
1:51:59
a
1:51:59
Wonderful.
1:52:00
How
1:52:00
the
1:52:00
Most
1:52:00
Inspirational
1:52:01
Movie
1:52:01
of
1:52:02
All
1:52:02
Time
1:52:03
Still
1:52:03
Inspires
1:52:04
the
1:52:05
Spirit.
1:52:06
Jimmy,
1:52:06
it's
1:52:06
been
1:52:06
an
1:52:06
honor
1:52:07
and
1:52:07
a
1:52:07
pleasure.
1:52:07
I
1:52:08
have
1:52:08
to
1:52:08
tell
1:52:08
you,
1:52:08
I
1:52:08
thank
1:52:09
you
1:52:09
for
1:52:09
taking
1:52:10
the
1:52:10
time
1:52:10
out
1:52:10
of
1:52:10
your
1:52:10
Sunday
1:52:11
night
1:52:11
to
1:52:12
spend
1:52:12
it
1:52:12
with
1:52:12
us
1:52:13
back
1:52:13
here
1:52:13
in
1:52:13
New
1:52:14
York
1:52:14
again.
1:52:15
Folks,
1:52:15
the
1:52:15
heart
1:52:15
of
1:52:16
It's
1:52:16
a
1:52:16
Wonderful
1:52:17
Life.
1:52:17
How
1:52:17
the
1:52:18
most
1:52:18
inspirational
1:52:19
movie
1:52:19
of
1:52:19
all
1:52:19
time
1:52:20
Still
1:52:21
Inspires
1:52:22
the
1:52:22
spirit.
1:52:23
Available
1:52:23
on
1:52:23
Amazon.
1:52:24
That's
1:52:25
Jimmy
1:52:25
Hawkins.
1:52:26
I
1:52:26
thank
1:52:27
you
1:52:27
once
1:52:27
again,
1:52:27
Jim.
1:52:29
Mr.
1:52:29
Donahue,
1:52:30
it's
1:52:30
been
1:52:30
a
1:52:30
pleasure
1:52:30
being
1:52:30
on
1:52:31
your
1:52:31
show
1:52:31
and
1:52:33
just
1:52:33
have
1:52:33
a
1:52:33
happy
1:52:34
new
1:52:34
year.
1:52:34
All
1:52:35
the
1:52:35
best.
1:52:35
Merry
1:52:36
Christmas.
1:52:36
Health
1:52:37
and
1:52:37
happiness
1:52:37
in
1:52:38
26.
1:52:38
Jimmy,
1:52:39
you
1:52:39
take
1:52:39
care.
1:52:40
You
1:52:40
bet.
1:52:41
Bye
1:52:41
now.
1:52:42
That
1:52:42
was
1:52:43
Jimmy
1:52:43
Hawkins,
1:52:44
ladies
1:52:44
and
1:52:44
gentlemen.
1:52:44
That'll
1:52:45
do
1:52:45
it
1:52:45
for
1:52:45
me
1:52:45
tonight
1:52:46
on
1:52:46
our
1:52:46
holiday
1:52:47
Spectacular
1:52:47
edition
1:52:48
of
1:52:48
Sports
1:52:48
Talk
1:52:49
New
1:52:49
York.
1:52:50
Again,
1:52:50
my
1:52:50
final
1:52:51
show
1:52:51
of
1:52:51
2025.
1:52:52
I'd
1:52:52
like
1:52:53
to
1:52:53
thank
1:52:53
my
1:52:54
wonderful
1:52:54
guest,
1:52:55
Mark
1:52:56
Canna,
1:52:56
Carolyn
1:52:57
Grimes,
1:52:58
Bob
1:52:58
Bourne,
1:52:58
and
1:52:59
of
1:52:59
course,
1:52:59
Jimmy
1:52:59
Hawkins,
1:53:00
my
1:53:01
great
1:53:01
producer
1:53:02
and
1:53:02
engineer,
1:53:03
Brian
1:53:03
Graves,
1:53:04
and
1:53:04
of
1:53:04
course,
1:53:05
you
1:53:05
guys
1:53:05
for
1:53:06
joining
1:53:06
us.
1:53:07
I'll
1:53:07
See
1:53:07
you
1:53:07
next
1:53:08
year
1:53:08
on
1:53:08
Sunday,
1:53:09
January
1:53:09
11
1:53:10
for
1:53:10
more
1:53:10
sports
1:53:11
Talk
1:53:11
New
1:53:12
York.
1:53:12
Till
1:53:13
then,
1:53:13
be
1:53:13
safe,
1:53:13
be
1:53:14
well.
1:53:14
Best
1:53:15
of
1:53:15
health
1:53:15
and
1:53:15
happiness
1:53:16
in
1:53:16
2026.
1:53:18
Bill
1:53:18
Donahue,
1:53:19
wishing
1:53:19
you
1:53:20
a
1:53:20
good
1:53:20
evening,
1:53:20
folks.
1:53:32
The
1:53:32
views
1:53:33
expressed
1:53:33
in
1:53:33
the
1:53:33
previous
1:53:34
program
1:53:34
did
1:53:34
not
1:53:35
necessarily
1:53:35
represent
1:53:36
those
1:53:36
of
1:53:36
the
1:53:36
staff,
1:53:37
management
1:53:37
or
1:53:37
owners
1:53:38
of
1:53:38
wgb.