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Mark Belling Podcast #130: The Democrats are dying and the Party is on its way toing fully taken over by Marxists. Mark explains why. Wisconsin Democrat mainstreamers feebly try to stop radical Francesca Hong from getting the Governor nomination. Mark hosts a roundtable on the Bucks post-Giannis, and the world's most powerful supercomputer is in.......Racine?????? · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: We are on the way to having no traditional Democrat
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  Speaker 2: Party in the United States at all. It's dying right
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  Speaker 2: in front of us. What it's going to be replaced
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  Speaker 2: by is a Marxist party.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of us on the right have forever accused
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  Speaker 2: the Democrats of being socialists, but now you have actual
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  Speaker 2: out and out socialists, actual out and out Marxists running
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  Speaker 2: within the Democratic Party running within the party, and they
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  Speaker 2: are taking control of it. They're winning almost everything. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to explain why this is happening in a moment
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  Speaker 2: and why it's happening in Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 3: But the reality.
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  Speaker 2: Is is that, just as in many ways the Mega
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  Speaker 2: Movement toppled what was traditional Republicanism, Marxism is toppling what
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  Speaker 2: was the traditional Democrat Party. Another sign of it yesterday
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  Speaker 2: in New York City they had the primary election Democrat
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  Speaker 2: candidates for Congress. There were three Democrat districts in which
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  Speaker 2: out and out Marxist ran against mainstream Democrat candidates. Mam Donnie,
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  Speaker 2: the Mayor of New York, endorsed the radicals. Every one
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  Speaker 2: of them won. This started a few years ago when
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  Speaker 2: AOC won a single Democratic primary, but now it's happening
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  Speaker 2: again and again. Mamdani himself won the Democratic primary from
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  Speaker 2: mayor of the City of New York, and now he's
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  Speaker 2: trying to purge the New York Democratic Party of every
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  Speaker 2: mainstream Democrat out there. And you can say, well, that's
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  Speaker 2: only New York, that's only New York, is it? Look
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  Speaker 2: at Wisconsin right now. The front running Democratic candidate for governor,
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  Speaker 2: Francesca Hang is a Marxist. She's come right out and
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  Speaker 2: said she's anti capitalist, she's anti everything. She wants a
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  Speaker 2: world in which there's no prisons. She's been leading this
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  Speaker 2: thing from the beginning. Maybe Mendela Barnes is closed. Bendela
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  Speaker 2: Barnes is also a radical, but kind of dumb. Francesca
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  Speaker 2: Hank's not dumb, She's just a Marxist. She's winning and
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  Speaker 2: we're getting very close to the August primary, and the
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  Speaker 2: mainstream Democrats have so far not been able to do
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  Speaker 2: anything to stop this momentum for her.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm going to get into the why of this.
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  Speaker 2: use Wisconsin because it's happening right now as a proxy
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  Speaker 2: for what you're seeing all over the country. I want
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  Speaker 2: to clarify my opening statement. There will be regular, old
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  Speaker 2: traditional Democrats left in the United States, but only in
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  Speaker 2: red states where.
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  Speaker 3: They can't win. You'll have Democrats who are going to
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  Speaker 3: run for office.
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  Speaker 2: In Kentucky, which by the way, has a Democrat governor
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  Speaker 2: who's not a Marxist, you'll have a few of them there.
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  Speaker 2: But in all of the states that are blue or
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  Speaker 2: like Wisconsin, the swing states, the so called purple the
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  Speaker 2: Marxists are taking over the entire party. And the reason
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  Speaker 2: it's happening is because what passes for the mainstream Democrats
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  Speaker 2: are too enfeebled and too terrified to fight back. They're scared,
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  Speaker 2: just as in Congress, they're scared to death of AOC,
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  Speaker 2: They're scared to death of ilan Omar. Here you have
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  Speaker 2: dangerous radicals, in the case of ilin Omar, a no
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  Speaker 2: nout fraudster, and you will not see the regular Democrat
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  Speaker 2: party turn against them. These people are defining the party
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  Speaker 2: because there is no opposition to them. There's opposition, but
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  Speaker 2: the opposition doesn't fight. Who stood up to Mamdani in
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  Speaker 2: New York? Nobody the entire Democratic established backed a Marxist
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  Speaker 2: to be the mayor of New York once he won
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  Speaker 2: the primary. And they're scared to death of bucking up
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  Speaker 2: against them because the loud radical voices within the Democrat
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  Speaker 2: Party fight viciously. You see the treatment that is given
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  Speaker 2: toward anyone who is Republican, anyone who supports Trump. This
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  Speaker 2: same venom will be directed toward any Democrat that tries
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  Speaker 2: to get in the way of these people.
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  Speaker 3: So that's going out of Wisconsin. We have an election
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  Speaker 3: for governor.
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  Speaker 2: Most if you simply looked at this in a vacuum
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  Speaker 2: and say the Democrats to probably win.
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  Speaker 3: Why.
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  Speaker 2: There's a long history in America that in off year elections,
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  Speaker 2: in other words, the elections in which the president isn't
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  Speaker 2: on the ballot, the party that doesn't control the White
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  Speaker 2: House has great gains. It holds up almost every time,
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  Speaker 2: not every but almost every time. The only distinction is
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  Speaker 2: how big the wipeout by the party out of power is.
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  Speaker 2: The Republicans control the White House, so you would think
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  Speaker 2: that this would be a big Democrat year. You go
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  Speaker 2: back to all of the preceding presidents. The biggest Republican
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  Speaker 2: gains occurred in the off years of Obama ten and fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: There are big Republican gains in the off year of
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  Speaker 2: Biden twenty two. You can go back to when Bush
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  Speaker 2: was president. The big Democrat gains occurred in two and six,
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  Speaker 2: So you would think that it would be a Democrat year.
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  Speaker 2: On the other hand, the republic Publicans in Wisconsin finally
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  Speaker 2: have a year in which there's not an inner party
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  Speaker 2: fight over the nominee the party. These fights have killed
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  Speaker 2: the Republicans in general elections because the losing side acts
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  Speaker 2: like little babies and goes and scuttles off into the
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  Speaker 2: corner rather than rally around the behind the candidate that wins. Furthermore,
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  Speaker 2: the Republican candidate is very qualified in Tom Tiffany, and
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  Speaker 2: he comes, as I've argued forever, from the correct part
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  Speaker 2: of the state if you want to win a state
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  Speaker 2: wide election. He's not from Milwaukee, he's not from Madison,
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  Speaker 2: he's from up north. When Republicans run a candidate who's
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  Speaker 2: not from Madison or Milwaukee in a state wide election,
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  Speaker 2: assuming it's a candidate that has skills.
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  Speaker 3: They win.
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  Speaker 2: In the meantime, the Democrats are seeing here in our
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  Speaker 2: state the same thing that's happening in New York and
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  Speaker 2: everywhere else. The radicals want to win, they want they
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  Speaker 2: want the candidate to be one of their own. So
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  Speaker 2: here's Francesca Hong All she is is a little member
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  Speaker 2: of the State Assembly from Madisons.
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  Speaker 3: Oh she is. But she's also.
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  Speaker 2: A self defining Democrat socialist. Her political views are Marxist
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  Speaker 2: and even by the standards of people like Mam Donnie extreme.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Mamdanni has said he wants to close
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  Speaker 2: all the prisons.
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  Speaker 3: She's actually said this. Clearly.
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  Speaker 2: There are lots of Democrat voters and lots of Democrat
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  Speaker 2: officials who aren't that far out there, and they also
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  Speaker 2: fear that if Tom Tiffany gets to run against a
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  Speaker 2: self proclaimed socialist that we all know is a Marxist,
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  Speaker 2: Tiffany might win. There hasn't been an overwhelming desire yet
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  Speaker 2: by undecided voters, swing voters to embrace Marxism. Maybe they will,
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  Speaker 2: but it hasn't happened yet. When the Democra scrats run
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  Speaker 2: a left wing lulu, that's when they can lose. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: there's this post mortem that the Democrats did after the
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  Speaker 2: Kamal election. After Kamala lost in twenty twenty four, the
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  Speaker 2: Democratic National Committee hired this firm to do this big,
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  Speaker 2: deep dive into what went wrong. And the conclusion is,
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  Speaker 2: we've got to stop running on all of these issues
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  Speaker 2: that people can't stand. We've got to stop running on
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  Speaker 2: gender ideology. We've to stop running on these opposing fossil fuels.
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  Speaker 2: All this radical stuff turns people off. We've got to
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  Speaker 2: stop running on allowing boys to participate in girls' sports.
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  Speaker 2: We've got to stop running on letting illegal immigrants into
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  Speaker 2: the United States.
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  Speaker 3: That message.
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  Speaker 2: Clearly they came up with this postmotive. They're not paying
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  Speaker 2: any attention to it. They may in the rhetoric and
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  Speaker 2: the general election. Not run on those teams, but look
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  Speaker 2: at the candidate that they're gravitating for it. So here's
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  Speaker 2: Francesca Hank and then there's all these other Democrats running.
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  Speaker 2: One of them dropped out of the race this week,
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  Speaker 2: Missy Hughes, who, by the way, probably would have been
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  Speaker 2: the toughest Democrat for the Republicans to beat because she's
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  Speaker 2: the least radical of them. Missy Hughes was the Economic
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  Speaker 2: Development chief in the Evers administration. She's a moderate Democrat.
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  Speaker 2: Moderate Democrats from the running on in Wisconsin, they're really
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  Speaker 2: hard for my side to beat. But Missy Hughes is
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  Speaker 2: polling at around two percent, even though she's a member
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  Speaker 2: of the couple of the alphabet communities in Madison. Her
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  Speaker 2: politics are not enough for the rest of the Democrats
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  Speaker 2: to embrace it. So she dropped out of the race,
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  Speaker 2: and she turned around and endorsed Sarah Rodriguez, the Lieutenant governor.
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  Speaker 2: I have been predicting that what you're going to see
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  Speaker 2: for the mainstream Democrats is one after the other after
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  Speaker 2: the other are going to drop out of the race
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  Speaker 2: so they can endorse a single one from the non
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  Speaker 2: wackle part of the party. In other words, you've got
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  Speaker 2: to come up with somebody to rally around. So you
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  Speaker 2: don't have David Crowley getting fifteen percent, Sara Rodriguez getting
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  Speaker 2: fifteen percent, Missy Hughes getting her nine percent, and so on.
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  Speaker 2: And I love Francesca Hong to win with thirty percent
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  Speaker 2: and them Mendela Barnes with twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Six and so on.
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  Speaker 2: So Missy Hughes dropping out is the first one of
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  Speaker 2: these shoes to drop. But I'm not sure it's going
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  Speaker 2: to work because you can have all of these candidates
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  Speaker 2: drop out, but if they don't attack Hong.
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  Speaker 3: What good will it do.
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  Speaker 2: I have heard almost no prominent Democrat in Wisconsin ack
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  Speaker 2: Haung on her Marxism. Instead, what they whine about and
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  Speaker 2: worry about, Well, she might lose to Tom Tiffany because
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  Speaker 2: she's so radical, but they won't come out.
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  Speaker 3: And Ripper.
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  Speaker 2: Politics is a battle of personalities, and it's a battle
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  Speaker 2: of ideologies. And the Democratic Party's ideology is becoming Marxists
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  Speaker 2: because the non Marxists in that party are letting it happen.
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  Speaker 2: They are not fighting back. This has happened throughout history.
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  Speaker 2: Back in the nineteen sixties and seventies, the Republican Party
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  Speaker 2: was very moderate party. There were a lot of in
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  Speaker 2: fact liberals in the party, the Northeastern Party, you know
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  Speaker 2: Rockefeller in that wing. There was a battle for control
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  Speaker 2: of the party. It went on for fifteen years, and
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  Speaker 2: the Conservatives won. The crowning victory occurred when Reagan became
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  Speaker 2: the nominee in nineteen eighty and then got elected president.
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  Speaker 2: But that battle, that iological battle was fairs and the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats have had these ideological battles forever. Again, go back
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  Speaker 2: to the sixties. You had the war hawkish anti communist
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  Speaker 2: wing of the Democratic Party, and then you had like
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  Speaker 2: the McGovern wing. McGovern eventually got the nomination in seventy two.
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  Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter ran as a moderate back the other way
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  Speaker 2: in seventy six. They fought this out forever and ever
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  Speaker 2: and ever. Bill Clinton ran as a moderate one. Then
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  Speaker 2: they elected Obama and they've never turned back. They moved
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  Speaker 2: to the far left with him, and it's simply been
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  Speaker 2: a march even farther and farther left ever since. But
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  Speaker 2: at least during that period before Obama got there, they
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  Speaker 2: fought that there was a battle of ideas and ideology.
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  Speaker 2: There is no fighting back from the Democrats because they
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  Speaker 2: are mainstream Democrats, because they're scared to death of the
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  Speaker 2: radical left within their own party. Here's what's going to
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  Speaker 2: happen after this year twenty six, so we get to
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  Speaker 2: twenty eight, You're going to see in congressional districts all
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  Speaker 2: over the United States Democrat incumbents who are not radicals,
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  Speaker 2: that are just regular old Democrats think like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Chuck Schumers of the world or the Pelosis of
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  Speaker 2: the world. And they're going to be opposed by Marxist candidates.
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  Speaker 2: And as we've seen in New York, these Marxists are
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  Speaker 2: winning again and again and again when the only voters
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  Speaker 2: are Democrat voters, and the Marxists have all the momentum
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  Speaker 2: behind them, and the mainstream Democrats don't fight back and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you're a Marxist. Marxism doesn't work, we can't.
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  Speaker 3: Just close the prisons.
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  Speaker 2: They're not willing to fight back and say any of
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  Speaker 2: that stuff. Now, let's stay in Wisconsin. Let's imagine the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats can rally around an alternative to Barnes and Hawaii.
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  Speaker 2: The two most likely alternatives for this would be Sarah
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  Speaker 2: Rodriguez a lieutenant company. You saw that Missy Hughes and Doorster,
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  Speaker 2: but there's also David Crowley, the Milwaukee County executive.
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  Speaker 3: In order for them to have.
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  Speaker 2: This rallying around, one of them has to get out
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  Speaker 2: of the race and endorse the other.
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  Speaker 3: Crowley and rod Regaez are about the same in the
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  Speaker 3: polls right now, maybe Rodriguez a little ahead. They have
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  Speaker 3: to convince Crowley to get behind rod Regaez and have
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  Speaker 3: Crowley then encourage African Americans to support Rodriguez and get
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  Speaker 3: the entire establishment behind, dump a ton of money into
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  Speaker 3: Sarah Rodriguez, and then turn on and try to stomp
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  Speaker 3: on Barnes and Hog. That's how you win.
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  Speaker 2: Anybody knows anything about politics, what you have to do
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  Speaker 2: is attack the opponent to win an election. Look how
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  Speaker 2: Trump won the primary in sixteen. When he won the Republication,
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  Speaker 2: he stomped everybody else. Look at twenty four, he's stomped
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  Speaker 2: under Santas, he stomped on Nicki Haley.
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  Speaker 3: That's how you win.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see any attempt by the regular mainstream Democrat Party,
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  Speaker 2: Consent or anywhere else to try to stomp on the
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  Speaker 2: radical side. And therefore they're going to lose to them.
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  Speaker 2: There is another so called mainstream Democrat and the race,
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  Speaker 2: Joel Brennan. A lot of people thought he would win.
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  Speaker 2: Here's why he has potentially behind him billions of dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Brennan himself isn't rich, but he's got an in law
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  Speaker 2: connection that's really powerful. Brennan's brother in law is Kevin Conroy.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Conroy was the founder of Exact Sciences biomedical company.
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  Speaker 2: They came up with what you need if you're when
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  Speaker 2: you're in one of these startups, is you need a
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  Speaker 2: killer product and then you need to sell to a
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  Speaker 2: giant pharmaceutical and that's what they did. They sold the
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  Speaker 2: do with colon tests and so on, and it's a
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  Speaker 2: less miserable way of doing the prep. That's what he created.
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  Speaker 2: He sold the company for around twenty billion dollars. He
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  Speaker 2: is the leading shareholder in the firm, Exact Sciences. He's
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  Speaker 2: loaded with cash and the thought that a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the old, regular, old tired old bulls of the regular
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  Speaker 2: Democrat party, the people that go back it oh too,
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  Speaker 2: pat lucy. And then through the year, you know, the regular,
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  Speaker 2: Jim Doyle, Tom Barrett, that old wing of Democrats that
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  Speaker 2: have run things forever. Is Brennan, who's a mainstream Democrat,
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  Speaker 2: could win because he's got access.
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  Speaker 3: To the Conroy money.
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  Speaker 2: And Conroy's brother in law would have run a ton
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  Speaker 2: of ads in his behalf. I don't see these ads.
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  Speaker 2: I'd see like one or two Brennan ads. Here's a
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  Speaker 2: limit as to how much money someone can give a cannedy,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: but you can create an independent pack and spend an
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  Speaker 2: infinite amount. And I don't see Kevin Conroy doing it,
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  Speaker 2: probably because he thinks Joe Brennan's a lost cause, that
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  Speaker 2: that he's spinning his wheels and he's going nowhere, which
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  Speaker 2: means Brennan would then have to drop out of the race.
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  Speaker 3: But let's suppose he did.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody's back at him anyway, and they're not willing to
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  Speaker 2: do what's necessary to wed. Let me explain something very
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  Speaker 2: simple here, and I've explained this to Republicans who refuse,
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  Speaker 2: who have refused to fight against Democrats as hard as
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: the Democrats fight against them.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: In other words, you know, the reason that.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Lefties hate Trump is Trump's the first Republican in about
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  Speaker 2: fifty years to hit the Democrats harder than they hit him.
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  Speaker 3: He's great at it. They're not used to it. They're
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: like Mike Tyson. Jason's a sports fan in there. Do
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  Speaker 3: you remember the.
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  Speaker 2: Beginning stages of Tyson, You know, when he beat the
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  Speaker 2: hell out of everybody on the Brett matches would last
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  Speaker 2: forty five seconds.
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  Speaker 3: He eventually.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of was out of shape and bought this guy
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  Speaker 2: busted Douglas, who beat him. You can watch the videos
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube. What happened in that fight is Douglas was
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: able to withstand Tyson's onslaught because Tyson was out of shape.
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  Speaker 2: And then Douglas started to hit Tyson, and once he
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: started to hit Tyson, beg Mike's veracity was gone. A
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: couple of years or so after that, he fought Evander Holyfield.
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  Speaker 2: Holyfield hit Tyson and hit him a few times. Tyson
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  Speaker 2: couldn't take a punch. Tyson was so frustrated he bit
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  Speaker 2: off Holyfield's ear. See, the reason that he had was
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  Speaker 2: not used to taking a punch is that he never
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  Speaker 2: had had to take it before because he killed people
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  Speaker 2: before they could.
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  Speaker 3: But he couldn't take the punch.
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  Speaker 2: Democrats have been eviscerating Republicans and calling us monsters in
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  Speaker 2: Nazis and racests forever and ever and ever. Then Trump
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  Speaker 2: came along and whacked him with their own medicine, and
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  Speaker 2: they have not been able to thus Trump being the
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  Speaker 2: arrangement syndrome and so on. But now you see the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats unwilling to use any of this toward the opposition.
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  Speaker 2: So here's the point that I want to make. If
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  Speaker 2: you are not willing to do what is necessary to win,
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  Speaker 2: you won't win. You can apply that lesson to anything
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  Speaker 2: in business or in life.
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  Speaker 3: If you are not willing to do what is necessary to.
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  Speaker 2: Win, you're not going to win. Let me turn my
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  Speaker 2: attention out of this story. Hillary Clinton has surface.
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  Speaker 3: Boy oh boy.
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  Speaker 2: She is almost like a sighting of Hillary Clinton right
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  Speaker 2: now is like when these archaeologists find a fossil. She
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  Speaker 2: is so far gone from the rest of the Democratic
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  Speaker 2: Party they don't even pay any attention to where See,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: she represents this mainstream that I was mentioning before. You know,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: her husband, Bill Clinton, ran as a moderate governed as
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: a moderate somewhere between moderate and liberal. Hillary was far
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: more liberal than he. But I mean, she's a warhawk
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and money grubber. She's not a Marxist and the number
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with her anywhere. Plus they blame
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: her for losing to Trump in the first place. That
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: was her original sin she does. If she beats Trump
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: in sixteen, there's no Trump presidency, there's no Trump back
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: in twenty four. Trump just goes back to Trump Tower
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: and does the things that Trump was doing, So they
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: blame her for that. Anyway, she's resurfacing, trying to be relevant,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: and she's on this neick thing on Netflix, and she's
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: ripping the electoral college.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: The electoral college.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Is the system by which we elect presidents of the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: United States, and she's saying it it's at abomination. It
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: served this nation well since the founding of the country.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: The premise of the electoral college is is that each
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: state gets a number of votes, and the votes are
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: based on population. The formula is pretty simple.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Every state starts with two and then you take the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: number of house districts that that state has and adds
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: that on. And obviously the higher the population, the more
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: house districts you have. So therefore a really large state
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: like California has a lot of electoral votes in a
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: really tiny state like South Dakota, has only the three.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Why don't we simply add up all the votes.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you where the founders didn't want that
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: and why we shouldn't change it now. We were never
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: created as a nation in which everybody was simply under
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: one giant blob. We are a nation of states, and
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: we allow the states to govern themselves in a lot
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: of areas in which one state may do one thing
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: and another state may do another. It's the same thing
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: that we do with municipalities and cities. Milwaukee may want
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: to do something really stupid, but New Berlin might not.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: The same is true of the states. We were set
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: up to be a country at which states could govern
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: themselves and we would all be part of the larger Now,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: there would be some things in which the federal government
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: did have sway. That's what the Civil War was about.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: The Southerners couldn't keep their slaves. Likewise, there are certain things.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: The Constitution of the United States grants all citizens certain
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: rights that the individual states can't usurp, etc. But allowing
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: individual states to have a say and a voice. This
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: allows the people of South Dakota to have a say
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: and who the president is. It's not a giant, say,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: because they only have the three electoral votes. But if
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: they didn't have those, they're just a few hundred thousand
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: votes and a presidential election in which what one hundred
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and fifty hundred how many votes for them the last
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: of one hundred and seventy million. Whatever it is, it
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: means that every individual state and its thoughts and voices
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: are heard. Now here's where the Democrats no longer like
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: this system. Democrats have a herding instinct. They all want
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to live near other Democrats. This is somewhat true of
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Republicans as well, but not as much. The areas of
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the United States that are Democratic are overwhelmingly so. New
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: York City that elected Mambani. Look at California take the Republican.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: The democratic areas of California, which would be basically around
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles and around San Francisco, the two they're overwhelmingly democrat.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: The big cities in the United States are overwhelmingly Democrat.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: The areas that are republic and other than say some
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: rural areas of Kentucky where you'll see eighty five or
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: ninety percent Republican.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: It's like sixty forty.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: They take the suburbs around here, what's Brookfield though maybe
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: fifty four to forty six republican, Even a really republican
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: suburb like New Berlin might be sixty five thirty five.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: These Democrat areas are eighty five to fifteen. So what
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: happens is the states that are Democrat are overwhelmingly so.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: So when the Democrat wins a state, like when they
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: win New York and they win California, yes they get
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: all the electoral votes, but they screw up the overall
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: total in the popular vote because so many people in
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: that state voted that way, whereas a lot of the
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: states that are more Republican, the margin isn't as strong,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: which is why the elections get determined by the swing states.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: If we didn't have that, though, there would be no
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: real need for any candidate to campaign in all the
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: rural America or any of the areas that were at large.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: They would simply appeal to the masses in the big
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: cities where all the numbers are, because we're just going
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: to disenfranch any part of the country that doesn't go
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: along the governance of America. The way we've set the
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: whole thing up. We have two senators from every state,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you're a little state or a big state.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: But then the House of Representatives, it's giving entirely by population.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: The goal is to have representation from all corners of
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: the country. Majorities rule in the individual elections, but they
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: don't necessarily rule in the thing with regard to the
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: entire country. Because we reflect, we respect the rights of
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: all different areas. So you have to have broad geographic
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: appeal in order to win.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: It's one of the strengths of our nation. The people in.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Montana and Missouri don't want to be steamrolled by a
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: bunch of Marxists. You go back a number of years,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: there was a time in which the electoral College worked
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: to the advantage of the Democrats and there were republic
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: You go back, like forty fifty years ago, the Republicans
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: talking about getting rid of the electoral college because all
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: of these individual states are marginally democratic and the Republicans
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: were getting screwed in that regard.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Well, now the shoe was on the other foot. This
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: has to be resisted.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: In addition to that, can you imagine if you had
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: a close national election and try to recount an election
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: with one hundred and seventy million votes. Look you what
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: happened in Florida in two thousand Bush v.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Gore.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: We fought seven weeks to figure out who won that election.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: At least under the current system, you might have a
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: few states that are really close where they have to
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: recount and change the ballots. If it's the entire country,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: it would mean every precinct in the United States would
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: go through this. I got a good one for you,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Dan Goldman. Of all the Democrats in Congress, he's I mean,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I'm creating here a most impossible to decide point. Who's
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: the most obnoxious? That's that's a really, really difficult question
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: to be able to answer. But he's been He's one
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: of the most you know, when they have the hearings,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: you know your question, whomember the Trump administration? Goldman, he's
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: a Democrat from New York. He's one of those He
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: just he won't ask the question. He just carve up
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: and rip the remiev Republican. Finally, now he's on the
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: receiving end of this, I'll explain why he's Jewish and
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: he's the born of Israel. Suddenly, Dan Goldman is getting
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: a little of his own medicine. He went into like
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a Starbucks, but he
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: went into some coffee shop. Did you hear about the story?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: It was some local coffee shops. Goldman goes in there
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: and tries to like buy a latte or some something
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: that liberals drink, and because he supports Israel, they wouldn't
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: sell him any In other words, he showed the same arrogant, abusive,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: insanely maniacal abuse was directed in him that he's shown
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: towards Republicans forever. So he went on CET and he
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: gave the following statement. Let me quote Goldman, who was
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: viewed by many as the face of rage for his
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: party in attacking anyone with opposing views, lamented the loss
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: of civil discourse. As I've pointed out, forever, lefties conditioned out,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: they can't take it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: And this issue of Israel and the Middle East.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: And so on, this is the one issue that's divided
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: the Democratic Party.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: There is still a lot of pro Israel.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Democrats, particularly Jewish Democrats, and now obviously there's hate and
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: rage from the anti Semitic wing of the left. They
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: direct this toward Goldman, and suddenly Goldman wants to have
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: more civility and politics this story. I'm gonna play something
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: here that is an example of a larger point Jen
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Lily Is I talk about. You know, there's like five
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: celebrities in America that are Republican. She's not even a
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: big star. She is, however, very well spoken. She's been
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: on soap operas, and I think she's been on these
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Hallmark movies, which I would not know firsthand.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Be I honestly don't think I've ever watched a Hallmark
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: have you your wife?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: See, I don't have a wife and I don't have kids,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: so therefore there's never been a I mean even when
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: they first started, maybe way back way back on regular
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: TV in the sixties, there was something called Hallmark Hall
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: of Fame in which they tried to do like more intelligent,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: pro you know, better higher brows stuff than the regular
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the Beverly Hillbillies and the stuff that was. I can't
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: say I never watched one of those, but I don't
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: remember one. So I don't know any about who she
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: is other than she's very very quick at her feed
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: and she's an outspoken conservative. She went on Sean Ryan's
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: podcast and she's talking to about something I don't know
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: one give it entirely away. But she's talking about people
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: who adopt what used to be the hardest children in
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: the world to adopt, the older kids who've been in
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: foster care, for instance. If somebody's adopting often because they
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: can't have children of their own, they want a baby,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: who wants a fourteen year old kid who's bounced through
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: six foster homes and has had a troubled background and
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: a discipline problem, wants to adopt it, and they've been
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: very difficult to adopt. Well, jim Lilly said, she wanted
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: to talk to you the growing number of people who
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: are actually willing to do this. They could these are heroes,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and what she found is they're not heroes at all.
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  Speaker 4: That's how bad people are making money out of foster care.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: So I go to this as option assisted program, like
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: I'm going to meet my new tribe of people that
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: are adopting kids out of foster care.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: These people are awesome.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: And then I meet this one woman and she's like, oh, yeah,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: what you want to do is you want to get
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: a d rate kid. I was like, what's a d
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: rate kid? What does that mean? And she goes, oh, honey,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: I make twenty eight thousand dollars a month off foster care.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: And I was like what, and she was like yeah,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: because I have this many kids. And she goes, here's
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: the thing. You want to make.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Sure they fail in school.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: If they fail in school and you can get them
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: on medication, your rate goes up. Every time they don't
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: pass a grade, your rate goes up because they're a
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: more difficult kid. Every time they need a medication, your
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: rate goes up. I think the intentions of increasing the
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: rate was to incentivize good people to stick with it.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: What it did is incentivized all the wrong people, people
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: who are in it for the money instead of for
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: the love of a child. Incentivize the other way. What
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: if they get on honor Roll, give them a bonus.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: That's how bad people are making money out of foster care.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: That was as I said, that's generally. And she was
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: on Sean Rand's podcast and she was talking about both
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: adopting and the parents who have like houses full of
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: foster children. In the same way that some people hoard cats,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: there's some people that are hoarding the foster kids. And
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Lily was putting out in that specific example that if
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the kid has various problems, you'll get more money for them.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: And obviously this was created because let's imagine you've got
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: a kid with a learning disability and discipline problems and this, that,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: and a physical disability. Who does want them have them
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: in their home? They're difficult, so we give more money.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: And the point that Lily is making is by doing this,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: you now have people gravitating that are taking the kids
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: in not because they love the kids, they want a
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: kid that has as many strikes against them, because the
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: way our system works is each thing that makes the
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: kid less attractive to either adopted, to put into foster
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: care gives you more money. This is the problem with
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: everything that left is fund Look at the urban public schools.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: The more we fail, the more money we give them
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: because they claim we're failing because we don't give them
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: enough money. Look at the whole Somali healthcare spart The
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: FEDS just indicted hundreds of people on healthcare scams in
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: the United States. These are people that gravitate towards programs
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: in which there's a problem, not because they want to
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: actually provide services for the problem, but get the money
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: that we throw out aimed at the problem. So what
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: you have here is these foster kids that have these issues,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: they're not patagraph because they're ending up in the homes
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: of crap foster parents or crap adoptive parents. There's never
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: an insane to reward those that excel, and that's true
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: about almost everything the government funds, in particular liberal programs.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Look at the left.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: All they want to do is punish success and take
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: away from the successful and give to the unsuccessful. And
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I certainly understand that we have to.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Help the poor.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: We have a moral obligation to do so, but we
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: don't have a moral obligation to bank roll people who
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: are trying to get rich off of helping the poor
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: or the unfortunate or the disabled.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Anytime we dangle money out.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: To help unfortunate people in our society, you will have
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: charlatans come in to try to pocket that money. I'll
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: provide the service, and we end up actually doing nothing
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: positive for the individuals that are in need of services.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Take the Somali Health Caase Somali thing. They weren't providing
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: services for anyone. They went into the buildings. They're empty.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: So therefore, if there was anybody indeed, they weren't getting
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: any of that money. You see the same thing going on.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: It used to be that no parent wanted to hear
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: that anything was.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Wrong with their kid.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Now the line of kids that are that have been
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: given some sort of disability that qualifies the family for SSI.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Parents are trying as hard as they possibly can to
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: get their kid classified as having something wrong with them
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: so they can get an SSI. I think that part
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: of not the entirety, but certainly part of the autism
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: problem is parents want their kids to be designated as
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: being on the spectrum because the financial rewards come in.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: And again, none of this means that there aren't people
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: who actually have disabilities or are autistic, but the incentive
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: is to have your kid have as many any problems
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: is possible if a paycheck comes accompanying that problem. You're
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: listening to the Markdelling podcast. This is the Mark Helling podcast.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: There's a story that isn't going away. There is this
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: fiasco that the San Francisco Giants had when they had
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Pride Nite. Now understand, San Francisco is an area in
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: which a massive segment of the population is gay. Secondly,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Pride Night is no longer simply for gay people. It's
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: the entire alphabet soup. It's for the LGBTQ, the questioning,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: the non binary, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So the San Francisco
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Giants created special caps for Pride Nite. They didn't have
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: the regular cap. I think it's still as the S
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: and the F out it doesn't it. That's what the
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Giants had forever, which was a takeoff of the old
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: New York Giant cap, which had a nana and a y.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: So they had this Pride Night cap. They're a handful
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: of Giants players who are Christian, so they inscribed a
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Bible verse on the cap. They still wore the cap,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: but they inscribed a Bible verse out it. The Commissioner
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: of Major League Baseball, Rob Manfred, threatened them saying, we've
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: got an UNIFA policy. You can't change the uniform at all.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: This has resulted in Senator hallyat Missouri and the Trump
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: administration threatening Major League Baseball saying that you are standing
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: in the way of the religious freedom of these individual people,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: and the thing is now blowing up. You've got the
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: San Francisco Giant organization, which doesn't want to back down
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: because of the overwhelming number of gays that are in
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: that area. You're major League Baseball, that's posing for holy pictures.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: It doesn't want to back down. But you also have
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: the legitimate fear here of the Trump administration coming in
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: and cracking down on you for abusing the rights of
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: these Christian athletes who were simply trying to do something.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: They didn't even refuse to put on the cap, which
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they would have loved to have done. They
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: wanted to at least put in something indicating where their
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: true desires and beliefs are. Here's the problem, and here's
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: how this could be of what. Everybody in the world
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: has a right to have whatever view you want to have, stupid, enlightened,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: whatever it is. I'm just about anything, including gender. When
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: you make everybody put on the cap, you're making all
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: of them to adhere to somebody else's viewpoint.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Why do you have to have a cap?
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Just have the damn Pride night. I, by the way,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: was at the Bruers Pride Night this year.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I was at the game because it was a game
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: on a Friday night.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: It happened to be the game in which Miserowski threw
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: the incredible nine inning shutout, one hit, one.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Batter away from a perfect game, face the minimum, the
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: whole thing.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: The Brewers put a few things up on the scoreboard
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: with regard to the Pride thing. Other than that, I
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: couldn't tell it was going on now. The Brewers had
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: a backlash a few years ago when they had a
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: drag queen thing and so on, and many people, including me,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: so that this is just ridiculous. People are bringing families
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: in there. They don't want to see this, so they
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: backed off. They have the Pride Night thing, and it's
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: the same as when they have key Wascam Night or
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: any other night. They'll have a thing, and they'll have
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: something over in some corner of the ballpark for people
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: who want to take part in it and so on,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: and it doesn't intrude on anyone. They didn't have like
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: a uniform, they didn't have any of that. Here's the thing,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: you know, who Pride Night should be for people who
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: are proud of whatever it is that that you're having.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: It doesn't have to include the people who aren't proud
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: of LGBTQ. Plus, I'm not a LGBTQ. Plus, I don't
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: think I'm in any of those alphabet things, so therefore
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I don't have a damn thing to be proud of
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: with regardless, So why would I have to put on
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: the cap? When you try to enforce people to believe
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: a certain way, and that way that you're trying to
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: force them to believe butts into their religious viewpoints, their
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: social viewpoints are in some cases they're common sense. You
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: create all of these crises that are.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Avoidable.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: You're telling everyone else that they have to adhere. Well,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: don't force everybody else to add here.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Now, this is one of the whole problems of the
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: whole Pride Night thing.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: And by the way this is starting to fade, there's
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: been a pretty big backlash growing from many gays themselves
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: who say they're embarrassed by Pride Night celebrations because they
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: tend not to embrace regular old gay people who don't
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: dress weird and don't act weird and don't have pink
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: hair and so on, that they're embarrassed by people who
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: use these opportunities to simply act out, that it creates
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: an impression of all people in all of the alphabets
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: that they're all half loony, as opposed to regular old
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: people who have different preferences with regard to sexuality, life, stalar, whatever.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: There are people who say there are no coincidences. I'll
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: see this like in movies, and I'll see this with
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: political theorists when they try to sometimes conspiracy theorists, there
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: are no coincidences, There are no coincidences.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: There are no coincidences. Yes, there are coincidences.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: If you flip a coin nine times in a row
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: and it turns out heads, it might be because there's
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: something wrong with the coin, or it might just be
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: that you at a rare occurrence that nine times in
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: a row came up heads. The reason it hardly ever
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: happens is because the odds against that are extreme, but
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: they aren't nonexisted. It's the whole point of these megabuck slatteries.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Your chances of winning are one and nine hundred and
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: seventy two million, Well, if you have more than that
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: number of tickets, there's good be the occasional person who
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: hits it. Yes, there are coincidences. The lad I'm doing
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: this podcast Wednesday afternoon for point of explanation. On Monday night,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Brandon Woodworth of Milwaukee Brewers pitched six innings gave up
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: one hit, no runs, struck out ten, walked none, and
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: entered the sixth inning with a no hitter. Tuesday night,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: the following night, Brandon Sprote of the Milwaukee Brewers pitched
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: six innings, gave up exactly one hit, gave up no runs,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: struck out ten, walked nobody, and entered the sixth inning
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: with a no hdder.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: It's not. First of all, those stat lines are very
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: very rare to have that kind of a dominant game.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Secondly, they pitched the exact number of innings, They had
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: the exact same number of strikeouts, Neither of them walked anybody,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: both of them yielded one hit. Both in both cases
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: the head occurred of the sixth sitting. There were a
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: couple of distinctions in the game. There was an odd
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: ball based runner that occurred with regard to spro who
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: has wiped out at a double play. Woodruff gave up
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: the one hit, had actually had a perfect game going
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: into it, But you had almost identical weird stack lines
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: by Brewer pitchers back to back. Beyond that, they're both
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: time Brandon. I know the name Brandon is really big
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: among people between say twenty four and thirty four. It
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: also took on a secondary meeting with old Joe Biden.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Thing Brandon is it's like the name Mark. You see
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: somebody named Mark. They're in my area of age group
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Mark was just huge when I.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Was a kid.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: There are it was kind of the whole thing in
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: which a lot of the New Testament writer's names.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: It came in vogue for parents to hand out. And
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: there are a lot of Marks. There are a lot
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: of John's. There a lot of Palls in my area.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: But do you know anybody named Mark under the edge
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: of forty years old? Jason? No, the name's gone away.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Well, it's just like all the j names, all these
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: guys that are in their foies, like you, the j names,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: the Jason's and Joshua. Wasn't all of that case that
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: came that had the huge, huge, huge run. Well anyway,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the Brandon thing got in there. So the two brewers
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: that pitch these things and back to back nights are
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: both named Brandon Woodruf Veteran and Sprote, who was acquired
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: in the Freddy Peralta trade. Now, the thing that makes
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: it not entirely coincidental is the brewers have the best
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: pitching coach in all the Major League Baseball Chris Hook
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: makes everybody better. And I will admit I thought earlier
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: this year than when Brandon would have flent out there
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: and was throwing eighty eight mile an hour fastball. So
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the dead I always said, it's done. He's done, he's
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: lost his arm. Usually don't recover from that. He's recovered
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: from that. He got up to ninety forty, was unhittable
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: in his appearance. You got a guy like Sproude, who
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: has struggled and pitched only a little bit in his
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: first season with the Mets last year. You give Chris
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Hook enough time with him, he will make him better.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: And the same way that he took Kyle Harrison, who
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: had been an underachiever, former first round draft choice, and
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: has made him one of the best hitters in baseball
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: this year. Look at Jacob Mazerowski, who last year was
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: unbelievably fast but had no control.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: He now has some of the best control of all
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: of baseball.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: So the nine coincidental part of this is that the
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Brewers have a pitching coach who's just off the charts.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Beyond that, to have two pitching performances like this in
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: back to back games. It's quite remarkable. And now this
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: there are certain stories that when you see the story,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: you have to say, you know, some people just are
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: not analytical people. People say that I'm overly analytical. You
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: can't be overly analytical. The more analytical you are, the better.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: It is a wonderful trait and I possess it. So
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I see a story and I can't just swallow it.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: The world's most powerful supercomputer.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Is in.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Racine, actually Mountpleasant, which is a suburb of a Seed, but.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: It's Racine County.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you would have fifteen years ago, if
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: somebody would have asked you in the year twenty twenty six,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: where is the most powerful supercomputer on planet Earth going
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: to be?
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Who the hell what? First of all, nobody's even gonna
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: say Wisconsin, Racin County.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Even with this, I read this story fifteen times like that,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: they must there must be some asterisk in there, like
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: supercomputer in the certain type of supercomputing. No, I mean
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: they've got there's a monstrously big data center that's that's
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: built in southern Racine County. It's only the early stages
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: of a total buildout. It's the original Scott Walker Fox
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: com plan morphed into Microsoft building. Probably it's probably going
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: to end up being one of the largest data center
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: campuses on planet Earth and one of the most powerful,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: and unlike the data centers almost everywhere, there's been very
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: little complaining about this one other than there's a noise
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: that comes off, but in people who live a little
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: close by or bitch at about the noise, but beyond that.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: So anyway, that's where it is.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: I have a mother who's from Racine. I dated a
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: woman want from We're Sine.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I've been tover Seine a lot. When you think of Rasine,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: you simply never thought of being thought of massively powerful supercomputers.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Kind of think of Italians a bit, but that's really
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: more of a Kenosha thing for Kenosha rest Kenosha must
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: have more Italian restaurants per populous than anywhere de side
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: of Italy. And know this story. I got this because
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: somebody tipped me off to it, because no, I am
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: First of all, I'm not on Facebook.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: I have a.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Facebook account with nothing on it so that I can
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: go into Facebook and see other things that there's a
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: need to be there, but I don't check out people's
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Facebook page that I just I'm not into Facebook, one
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: of those things that you either are you aren't. My
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: old producer Paul was insanely obsessed with Facebook. Every topic
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: idea he would bring to me would be something that
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: he found on Facebook, including by the way, some fake ones.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Are you a Facebook guy? So you're like me, you
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: have an You.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Almost have to have an account to be on, especially
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: if you're in our business where you want to report
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: on things, because there's content that's in there on somebody
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: news worth.
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: And anyway, it's like.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: A tiptof to this deb and Raka. Now, in my
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: post on X I called her dopey deb and Raca.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: That might be considered to be too mean. Is that
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: too mean, Jason? Is it too mean to call Devon
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Draka dopey deb and Draca? You know, I mean, maybe
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: it is. She's basically just another you know, the term
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: north Shore and Nancy came around.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: That's what she is.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: She's one of these liberal women on the north Shore
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: and that area has become so want democratic, and she
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: got elected to the state legislature. I mean, she's nowhere
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: near as dopey as most Democrats, but I called it
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: it just it's a literation. Her first name is Deb
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: I called Adope devon Dracham. Well, yesterday was the anniversary
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: of the signing of Title nine. Title nine was the
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: federal Act different than law, the Act that guaranteed equal
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: athletic opportunities for girls and women. It's become an act
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: that is actually now embraced more by conservatives than liberals
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: because it's being used to fight back against fake men,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: men claiming they are women who are going in and
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: boguarding their way into women's sports. Nonetheless, it was a
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: major achievement. And before we had Title nine, I mean,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of high schools that might have
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: had only three or four sports that they offered for girls.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: A lot of university had like eighteen different sports that
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: were men and maybe five that are women. Given the
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: fact that the overwhelming majority of sports are not moneymakers,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: there's no reason why high school girls shouldn't have the
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: same opportunity to play tennis as high school boys and
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: so on. So Title nine was an act, and yesterday
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: was the fifty fourth anniversary. So Deb and raka because
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: liberals just can't allow days like this to go on
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: without then making some pompous statement about it posted the following.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: She posted on Facebook with a picture below. Today marks
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: the fifty fourth anniversary of the passage the landmark federal
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: civil rights law, Title nine. Title nine was created to
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: address it disparities in education in sports for women and girls,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: and to ensure equal access and opportunity. While we celebrate
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: this critical law and the progress made here, this lefties,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: we must continue our fight for equality for all people
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: denied equal opportunities.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: And then she shows a picture she thought Title nine
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: being signed.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Now in thinking this too, I actually have not figured
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: out how she's made this mistake. And below what there's
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: a picture of, you know, one of those signings of
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: law that you see, you know Trump, You'll see him
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: signing something. Presidents forever they signed and there's always like
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people standing behind him when they sign it,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: and there's a bunch of people standing around and Lynda
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Vaines Johnson's signing this. Now I understand, and you know,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I've knock done this the absolute total lack of understanding
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: of rather contemporary history. And I've always ascribed it to
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: history teachers never finished the class on time when I
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: was a kid. They never got even to World War Two.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: They just get they fall behind in the class, and
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: they never get up to the really, really recent history.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: So I just assume that that's the problem with people
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: in the current era that they make They never get
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: past the Great Depression.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Now they probably get to.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: World War Two, but they're not aware of the areas
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: of the civil rights movement of the sixties, or Vietnam
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: or Watergate or ready of those things.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: There's that, except the.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Thing of it is those two decades were so huge
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: in American history, so transformative. It so much happened, and
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: so much of it's still discussed to this day, and
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: so many YouTube videos on it.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: So all dopey deb had to do is math.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty six minus fifty four is nineteen seventy two.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: And unless she knows nothing, Lyndon Johnson was not the
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: president in nineteen seventy two.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Richard Nixon was.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: And indeed Pedal nine was signed by President Richard Nixon,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: a Republican, and now Lyndon Johnson a Democrat.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: So how did she.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: End up putting this picture of Johnson on there? That's
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: the part that I just can't figure out, because if
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: she goes on to find some historical picture of the
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: sign ending of Title nine, that one would not have
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: come up. Johnson signed into law many of the civil
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: rights laws, a lot, the Civil Rights Actor of sixty four, etc.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Those things happened in his administration. The movement started during Kennedy,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: but after Kennedy was killed, we passed a lot of
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: the landmark civil rights laws in the nineteen sixties, and
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Johnson was the president and he signed a lot of them.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: But this was a separate thing. It didn't have entertaining
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: the youth race. It had to do his sports for
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: girls and women. And it was actually signed by Nixon
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy two. So I can't I've not figured
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: out how she made the mistake and why she didn't
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: catch it. Either she can't do math, which is very
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: very possible, or she didn't know when Johnson was the
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: president and thought Johnson was the president in the seventies.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: But if you think that, then that means you didn't
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: know that it was the Vietnam War ended during Nixon.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: It also means you don't really know when Watergate happened
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: because Watergate was Nixon. It's a really stupid, stupid mistake.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: So somebody tipped this off to me, so rather than
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: let it slide, I immediately took a screenshot and posted
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: in an AX. So if you'd like to see the
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: original thing, you can go to my account on x
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: which is Mark Felling Show, and I've got a post
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: on that there with the original picture. By the way,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: hours went by by this morning. On her Facebook page
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: she took it down and she has a photo of
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Nixon signing something. It's possible that this can be some
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: ninkampooped staffer. Members of the legislature have gotten in trouble
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: forever with nincompooped staffers posting on their social media cones.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: See Trump doesn't let that happen. When you see a
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: post on truth social by Trump, it's always Trump. The
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: tip off is when there's capital letters all over the place,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: you know that's Trump. So she might just have some
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: dopey staffer. And here's the thing about legislative staffers. Half
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: of them are dumb. I could I just speak from
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: experiencing this Republican and Democrat. The other half, though, aren't
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: and some are really sharp, but a good half.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Of them are dumb. I think maybe more than half.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: On the Republican side are dumb, but there's a number
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: that are really sharp, and the ones that are really
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: sharp are disgusted.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Was how dumb some of them are? You know?
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're some Democrat, you're hired out of college, you
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: get a staff on job on Devon Draka staff Title
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: nine and so forth and.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: So on, and you put this picture up. I still
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: How you get a picture of a different president, because
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: whenever you go in, whether it's Getty images or any
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: of the sources that you can use to commemorate something,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: there wouldn't have been you would search for Title nine signing,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: right unless she just took a picture a generic picture
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: of Johnson signing something. Maybe this is Johnson signing one
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: of the civil rights laws and was too lazy to
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: find the actual Title nine signing, or maybe there's no
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: photo of it. So now she's got a picture of
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Nixon signing something. I don't even know if it's Nixon
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: signing Title nine. Maybe it's Nixon signing something else. But
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: she had a replace the She of course, never admitted
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: the mistake. Foot as somebody who gets called every single
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: one of my dumb mistakes, and I make quite a
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: few of them. There's no way I'm ducking this now.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: I gotta get to this story. As you know, I'm
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: a major critic of the organization that runs high school
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: sports in the state of Wisconsin. They have ninety seven
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: million rules, but in the play that they don't need,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: but where you need a rule, they just can't seem
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: to do it. And it is just frustrated almost everyone
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: who is a lover of basketball, especially high school basketball,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: that there's.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Still no shot clock.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Some of these games just become they're anathetical to what
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: basketball is. Basketball is a game in which you have
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: to get off a possession within a certain period of time.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: When it was.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Invented, when they had the peach baskets, they didn't have one.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: But the NBA has had the shot clock in maybe
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: even from the beginning. Certainly it was on when I
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: started watching in the sixties, and college went to a
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: shot clock shortly after that see your track, and basically
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: at least sixty years that if virtually every level of basketball.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: It's a shock clock.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Furthermore, just about every sport has a clock that requires
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: you to take an action. Baseball finally got around to
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: halving on, but high school basketball. Some of these games
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: end up just being a mockery of the game where
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: some team just decides to pull the ball back and
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: hold it for five or six or seven minutes, and
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: you end up without the kids actually competing in actual basketball,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: which is a possession where you attempt to score on
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: a defense where you intend to score. It also means
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: that when you get down to say, two, three, four
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: minutes left in a game, teams just foul foul follow
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: because unlike say, in the NBA, you gotta shoot within
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: twenty four seconds, you only follow when you're way at
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: the end. Or in college with the thirty second thing,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: they start falling with a minute or so and so on.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: In high school they've got to fall three four minutes out,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: especially if they don't think that they.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Can steal the ball. That are going into these things.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: So the WYA has not yet fully gone to the
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: shot lick, but they're saying that schools now can individually
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: experiment in non conference games. Do you know the excuse
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: that I've heard as to why they don't have it? No,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: you're from Illinois. I don't do they have any Illinois.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: They're moving it in gradually.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Here's the excuse I've heard we don't have enough staff
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  Speaker 2: to run the shock clock. Oh, for crying out loud,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: do you understand how much money we put into the schools. Now,
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: I do get this, they probably don't have enough for
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: grade school.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Secondly, somebody that runs a shot clock.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: You can't have an idiot doing it. You know, pretty
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: much anybody can run the scoreboard. Somebody scores a basket,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: you put up two or three points. The hardest thing
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: of running the scoreboard in basketball is actually turning the
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: clock on when there's an inbounds play and turning it
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: off when it's not. I mean, sometimes you'll see people that.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Are bad at that.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: They don't stop the clock in time where ball is
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: inbounded and it comes on two seconds later. With regard
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: to the shot clock, you gotta be quick on the finger.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: But even if you're off by a second, it's still
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: better than not having a shot clock. And then they
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: whined what we'd have to invest in putting the clocks up.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: Those things are nowhere near as expensive as they used
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: to be. Put a couple on the top of the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: backboard and so on. So we're finally moving in that direction,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: which I think would be a massive step forward, and
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: some people say I'm a purist.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Purist, they haven't played the game this way since like
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: World War Two. I don't know when the NBA started,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: and the NBA might have actually had it from the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: very beginning, if not, it was really early on, because
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm old and I first started watching the
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: NBA in the sixties when the Game of the week
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: was on and they had the shot clock then, and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: it was always twenty four seconds college, I don't think
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: it was. I think it might have been thirty five
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: before it went to thirty on. What they're talking in
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: high school is thirty five. I think twenty four is ideal.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, basketball is not. The court's only ninety four
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: feet long in the NBA. In high school it's usually
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: eighty four. You can't get a shot off at twenty
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: four seconds. I mean, for crying out loud, nineteen to
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: fifty fours the NBA, so that was right after it started.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: The NBA, I think started in the late forties or
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: a couple of leagues that were out there, but almost
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: from the very beginning, all right. The Milwaukee Bucks are
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: in the middle of one of the greatest transformations in
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: the history of the franchise. Giannis has gone zillions of
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: new players and draft choices are in and the Bucks
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: picked two players in the NBA Draft. In the next segment,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have a brief round table discussion. I'm not
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: going I always love it when the media is experts
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: say there isn't any expert that's gonna come in here.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: We're gonna bring in Hunter and Arman and Jason is
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: gonna come in. None of us are experts, but we
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: are all intelligent and well in formed, me more so
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: than the rest of you. But we're gonna size up
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: where the Bucks are when we think about how they
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: have what about the moves that they have made in
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: this new Postiannis era on the Mark Belling Podcast. This
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: is the Mark Belling Podcast, The Milwaukee Boxes. Everybody knows
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: finally traded Yannis. This has been rumored for years and
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: years and years, And we're not going to look backwards
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: here as everybody in the media does, because there are
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: always two weeks behind the story and they're doing all
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: of these retrospectives. We're going to look forward. I'm not
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: going to discuss whether or not it should have happened.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: It was going to happen because Yannis needed to leave Milwaukee.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: The Bucks needed for him for him to leave, So
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: the Bucks ended up trading janis Anatakumpo to the Miami
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Heat in exchange for four players and three draft choices
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: and a draft swap and so on. And this all
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: happened only a few hours before the NBA Draft for
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: the Bucks last night had two picks.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: So to help me.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Discuss all of this, we have two guys from iHeartMedia
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Sports Hunter Bomb Guard and armand Sorry And did I
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: say your last name right?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Armand you did?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: Thanks, Mark, I was right.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I was close to it, close to it in there
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: and they work on AM nine twenty and also do
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: things for all of the stations here and you're doing streaming.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Stuff and SOT one. But the two of the sports
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: guys that worked for the comp The first thing that
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: I want to address is I think a giant misconception
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: that's out there, and that is that the Bucks are
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: now going to do what a lot of teams have
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: been doing in the NBA, which is tank.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: There are teams that have used tanking, in other words,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: stink for three years and have gotten very good. It's
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: what Oklahoma City did, San Antonio did.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: It's what Detroit did.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: You stink for a few years and you go two
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: or three years of getting the number one or number
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: two pick in the draft to end up with great players,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: and then you get good again. It's gotten so bad
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: that the league is even imposing rules to end tanking. However,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: the Bucks might be bad, but it will not be intentional.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: The Bucks do not have any of their own draft choices.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: The only advantage of tanking is you get good choices
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: in the following draft. Whatever draft choices the Bucks have
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: will be draft choices they acquire from other teams because
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: all of their picks are gone. So there is no
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: incentive at all for the Bucks to deliberately be bad.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: There's every incentive for them to be, I think, as
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: good as they can be while they try to return
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: to some level of greatness. So that's my initial thought,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: and this let's start with armand any thoughts.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: You're absolutely right, Mark, Actually, the NBA's instituting new lottery
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: rules to try and prevent tanking, so it even makes
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: it more dis inventageous to try and lose to Actually,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: you said get a better selection. It's actually just a
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: better chance at a better selection. But you're right, they
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: don't have a first round pick next year, so unless
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: they made another trade to acquire a team's pick, and
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: that's something that could also change because it could be
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: a protected pick or non.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Protected, and that would be defended what that team's record
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: is and not the Bucks, so.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: They wouldn't even be there'd be no advantage of tanking.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: So in the short term, at least for next year,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: you're absolutely right, there's no reason to do anything but
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: try and play your best and win as much as possible,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: win as.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Much as you can with an overall picture toward crying
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: long term to be better. But there's zero upside to
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: deliberately be bad hunter.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's not always the case where you see,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 7: you know, a trade like that go down and then
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 7: twenty four hours later you already kind of are excited
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 7: about two new young players that they were able to
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: draft in the first round, and especially for Bucks fans
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 7: not necessarily used to picking, not only just picking in
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: the first round, but having a couple of prospects that
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 7: you're excited about and to kind of build around and
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: see what they can do in this first year. So
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: it might be kind of a quicker, not that they're
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: going to go back to where they were with Giannis
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 7: and Drew Holliday and Chris Middleton in the Glory days,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 7: so to speak, right away, but this may be a
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 7: little quicker of an excitement coming back to Bucks fans.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: All right, let's before we get to the draft, assess
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: the trade they made. The Bucks apparently really had only
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: two options out there, and it's premised on Giannis has
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: one year left in his contract. They had to trade
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: him now where he would have left at the end
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: of the year and gotten nothing, and any team that
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: trades for Yiannis wants to sign him to a four
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: year extension, which they're able to do in a few months.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: And Giannis has some control over this. He was willing
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: to go to Boston. He's willing to go to Miami.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: So those are the two teams that were on the table.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: They had an opportunity to trade for another superstar and
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown from Boston and get maybe a draft pick
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: or two. In addition to that, they opted instead to
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: trade for four decent enough young players to the Miami
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Heat and get three draft choices, one of which was
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: in last Night's draft, the number thirteen pick in the draft.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: Let's start with the taking the Boston route Jalen Brown
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: and replacing Giannis with another superstar as opposed to the Miami thing.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: I'll start with Hunter on this one. Do you think
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: that they picked the right deal? I think they did.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 7: I think if you were getting Jalen Brown back, you're
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: kind of doing a little bit of what you did before,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 7: where you're kind of building around one guy again. And
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 7: I think this organization is probably ready to say, let's
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: have this be a team again. Not that Jannis wasn't
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 7: a good team player and everything, but let's all be
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 7: honest and everything that's come out and everything. They're tailoring
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: to what Giannis wanted a lot of the time, and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 7: I think it was okay, Well, Jalen Brown's finally going
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 7: to get his team. That was kind of the narrative
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 7: if they took the Boston deal, and so I think
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: they were like, you know what, let's just let's kind
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 7: of clean house, have this be a team again. We
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 7: got a new coach and Taylor Jenkins, who's good at
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 7: developing young talent. Let's go that route. You have draft
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: picks to acquire those young players and also some development
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 7: when you've.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: Taken the Boston dealer of the Miami deal.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: Miami, for sure, only because you get the most quantity
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: of young assets to eventually build around, whether it's draft
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: picks or if you remember, the four players Miami got
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: the Bucks got from Miami were all their first round
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: picks at some point, right Tyler Hero of course, being
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: the best of the group, he has the local tie.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: Now Tyler has one year a lot of control.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: You'd have to make a decision there if you don't
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: try to trade him.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: But the advantage would have been short term with the
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: Jalen Brown choice with the Celtics, because he's a more
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: marketable star and he has a better chance to get
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: you possibly to a play in or the playoffs next year.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: That being said, is it a long term solution. I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: don't think so. The two picks that Boston was going
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: to give an addition were just worn enough, so to me,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: the right move was to take Miami's offer because it
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: was better. Also, a lot of Bucks fans I think,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: would much rather Giannis be in Miami than Boston, which
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: they consider a bigger rival. Maybe that's an opinion, but
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: I think some people think that.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I love part of the year in Miami, which
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: I would rather have the heat not doo good because
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: all the do was argue with the people that are
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: down there. But I initially thought that there was some
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: sense to the Jalen Brown trade because I was not
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: impressed with the players that Miami was initially offering. But
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. I think the Bucks played pat riley
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: in Miami. When Boston came into the picture, the Bucks
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: I think, were able to juice up the deal. They
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: were able to pick up Jackasonius, who was the number
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: one pick last year guard who's only nineteen years old,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: and get him in the deal. I don't think Miami
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: wanted to give him up. They were able to make
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: sure that Haimi Jasquez, who was the second place voter
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: and the six man choice, were in this. So I
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: think that they improved the deal beyond that, if you
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: get Jalen Brown here and he doesn't want to be here,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: it's the same thing as with Giannis. In addition to that,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: and this is why Bucks fans who didn't think that
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: it was time for this to happen. First of all,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Janni's agent said Yannis wanted out and that's now a
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: confirmed But secondly, the Bucks were going nowhere with Giannis
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: and the cast of characters that were there, So why
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: would they go anywhere with Jalen Brown and the cast
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: of characters that were there. You have to, I think
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: go a different route. As for what they got, I
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: think that the talent level that they get in is
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: pretty good. They were a guard heavy team. I think
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: the key here to me is they got Tyler Harrow,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: who's kid.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: That went to high school at Whitnall, who's a true
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: NBA star. He scores more than twenty points a game.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: He is, However, in the last year of his contract.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: I think it is overwhelmingly likely he's not a long
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: term Buck. I think that they're going to trade Tyler
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: Herro and they may trade him in the middle of
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: the season to a contender who's looking for a guy
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: like him for half a year to put them over
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: the top and win a championship, and they may get
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: a number one pick. Then they would get a number
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: one pick for him, and maybe two if they trade
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: him in the middle of the season to a team
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: looking for a final piece. As it stands from Miami,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: the Bucks did not get The next pick from the
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: first round that they get from Miami is in twenty thirty.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: They go in this year, but there's still this.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Gap of picks in twenty seven, twenty eight, and twenty nine,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: and Tyler herro can be turned into this. So I
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: think that the combination of players that they got these
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: aren't MutS, they're it's very comparable. I'd think to what
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: the Bucks got for Kareem fifty sixty years ago. So
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I thought they got pretty good talent here.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think with the Tyler hero thing you want,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 7: I too, I would be surprised if he's a Buck
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: at the end of this coming season, because I think
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: he's probably traded, like you said, either either now you know,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 7: in the next couple weeks as the offseason begins, or
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 7: during the season, and during the season you can kind
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 7: of showcase him a little bit and maybe get a
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: little more because he is going to be one of
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 7: your main guy, if not your main scorer with how
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 7: the roster sits down.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: And they're not going to sign Tyler to a long
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: term contract because frankly, I don't think he's a franchise
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: defining player. He's a really good player, but he's going
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: to get a max contract from somebody. The only downside
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: on this is the Bucks now have like five or
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: six pretty good shooters. They don't need somebody who's going
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: to come in in ballhog in this situation. And if
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: Tyler felt I'm the best player here, this is my team,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: you would run. You would run the risk of that.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Let's now go to the NBA Draft. The Bucks handed
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: up with two picks in what was described as an
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: extremely deep draft, the tenth and the thirteenth pick, and
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: they chose a guy who they have the same kind
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: of player, but I'll describe him as a honest in
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: Nate Amant, who is a forward tall six' ten or,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: so although they hype everybody in college in their height From,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: tennessee WHO i think is not PARTICULARLY nba ready right,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: now but he's got all these physical tools and if
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: he dedicates, himself could really. Develop and they picked a
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: guard From arizona with the tenth pick in the, draft
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: who's MORE nba. Ready you guys follow college basketball really,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: closely so let's.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: Go i'm going to do one of each one of them. Individually,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: hunter do you want to take iment or do you
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: want to Take. BURRIS i will go With.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Burry's burry's is the guard that was picked with a
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: tenth pick in the. Draft many people thought that he
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: would not be available when The bucks were. There The
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: bucks had the advantage this year of there being a
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: lot of great guards in this draft.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 7: For, sure AND i think this is a guy who's
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 7: going to get a lot of playing time. EARLY i
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 7: think he's a guy who is probably going to be
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 7: in that rotation kind of build himself, up And i'm
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: fascinating to see how his rookie year. Goes he played
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 7: a really Good arizona team last year and a team
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 7: that was consistently in it for one of the top
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 7: teams in the nation all season, long made a run
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 7: in THE ncaa, Tournament so he knows how to. Win
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 7: And i'm excited for a guy who can kind of
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 7: showcase his talents in just throughout this season because The
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 7: bucks have not had this type of talent come straight
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 7: from the draft THAT i think is going to play.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: Consistently, YEAH i Agree.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: HUNTER i think the advantage of taking him there was
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: he has the most potential in terms of. Upside the
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: thing about like about ament is his, size potential that's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: the player that The bucks got at, thirteen and he
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: had a lot of responsibility At. Tennessee on both, ends
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: he was getting hunted a lot by defensive, Schemes so
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: in that, SENSE i think he had to grow up
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: quick a, lot AND i think he gave The bucks
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: what they, needed which is a mix of size and
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 6: athleticism with some potential to be a two way. Player
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: and the nice thing about him at thirteen WAS i
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: think there was this thought that The bucks would not
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: get the chance to get him at.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: THIRTEEN i wanted them to pick him at ten ten
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: BECAUSE i think my thought forever in THE nba draft,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: is if you're not in the top, five you swing
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: for the fan and take a chance that you're going
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: to get a guy who's way, better which is exactly
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: What yannis. Was what Was giannis, THIRTEEN i.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: Want to say fifteen or fifteen, Teen so they picked.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: A guy with no experience at all From greece but
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: had all of these, tools and people say it was
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: a brilliant, pick which it, was but it was brilliant
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Because giannis became insanely dedicated to being the best basketball
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: player that he could possibly. Be some of them smoke
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: pot and never develop into it into. Anything and the
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: same is going to be true with anybody in THIS
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: i think that the upside For ament.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: Is really really.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: High SO i loved the fact that they were able
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: to get him when one of the elite guards in
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: the draft that was available at. TEN i think it
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: was a no brainer because then when you saw what
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: was going, on you know you had a good chance
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: to get A meant when he was. THIRTEEN i think
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: The bucks had a home run.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: Of a draft.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: Here.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: YEAH i like think for the right two guys for
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: the spot they were, in.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: They got the value they wanted BECAUSE i think they
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: didn't expect A mean to be available and he, was
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: so therefore they got two guys they probably. Targeted and
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: to your, Point, MARK i think that the you, know
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 6: there's a called lottery for a, reason you have to
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: get a little lucky when you have these, Picks you
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: draft the potential based on the best information you have
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: to project these guys and you hope that that we're
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: out and a lot of that has to do with.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: Luck AND i think there's a lot of randomness to.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: It so some of the best players The bucks have
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: gotten in the draft in the last thirty years or
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: second round. Picks michael red was the second round. Pick
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Malcolm brognen was the second round. Pick the only great
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: first round pick that they've gotten to this entire period
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: was actually honest and closing all of this, up The
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: bucks still have some players here with uncertain. Futures Bobby
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: portis was going to go because there's no need, anymore
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: as popular as he was to have a guy who's
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: over thirty still in The bucks who draws something of a.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: Paycheck Kyle kuzma's still. Here he seems to be a
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: mismatch for a franchise and where it's. Going they also
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: still Have Miles, turner who they gave a lot of.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: Money, to still on the. Team do you think.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: The bucks keep those two guys and can they mesh
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: with the younger players that are being brought in From
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: miami via the?
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: Draft, well really, Quick i'll start With Miles. TURNER i
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 6: think they have to Keep Miles turner BECAUSE i think
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: at this point you've already pot committed to him with
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 6: all that, money and his trade value is pretty much
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 6: nil right now because he had such a bad.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: Year you have to bring him.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 6: Back you hope he finds a way to fit in
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: with a new group and a new coach and provide
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: you something to what he did in his later years In,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: indiana which was quality rim, running rim, protection and three point.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: Shooting he did none of that with The bucks this. Year,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 6: obviously it seemed to be an awkward.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: Fit he was a bad.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Fit apparently With Yannis dusen's found out Is he's pointed
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: out That yannis had become a giant pain in the.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: Ass so the only Reason turner's bringing that up is
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: because he didn't think that he missed and well With,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: jannis what about what About Kyle?
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: Kuzma, YEAH i.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Have by the, WAY i can tell You Kyle kuzma
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: wanted to be The portis in this deal in the worst.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: Way Kyle kuzma lives In. Miami he's a, soft big
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: kind of. Guy he wanted to be in this trade
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: and Not Bobby. Ports he wanted to go down there
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: and be part of all of. This but he's he's
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: still In. Milwaukee he's such an unusual. Player he can
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: have great games and bad. Games my comment is simply
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: he's good at one, thing going to the basket and
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: slashing he's like Jann it's only not as good As.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: Johannis he can't shoot that.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: Well he's only an okay, defender he's only an okay.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Rebounder but he can be a great score if he
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: accepts his, role which is that of a role. Player
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: do you see them getting rid of him to get
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: somebody else as long as we're getting rid of everybody,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: here or do you think he's going to stick a?
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 7: Round, yeah when you first asked the, QUESTION i kind of, Thought,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 7: okay one of two, Players Miles turner Or Kyle, kuzma
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 7: will probably be. Traded but like you, Said, armann it's
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 7: gonna be tough to Trade turner right, now So kuzma's
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 7: more of the option to. Trade do you try to
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 7: package him with a hero if you're going to do
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 7: that before the, season or do you go into the
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 7: season with these guys with the thought in the back
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 7: of your. Mind, okay let's see if we can get
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 7: him to a contender at the trade deadline and see
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 7: if we can maybe get a little. More then Maybe
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 7: kuzma plays a little better with the ball in his
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 7: hands a little, more Or tyler heroes the same. Way
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 7: SO i have a feeling that again kind Of kuzma's
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 7: the same, way, right would be surprised he's with The
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 7: bucks at the end of the, season but he might
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 7: be there to start them all.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Right there's two groups of fans. Here people who casually
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: pay attention to The. Bucks and that's a lot of
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: the people who spent a lot of money to go
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: to the. Games they went to the games because they
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: wanted to See, yannis who they didn't see much of last.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: YEAR i think their level of interest in The bucks.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Declines and then there's the SUPER nba fans who are
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: really under the. TEAM i think they're going to be
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: energized by, this especially if the team doesn't. Stink your
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: just thoughts in general on where The bucks fit in
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: now in interest In milwaukee with a bunch of players
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: that the casual fan has never heard of any of,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: Them you.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: Hit it on the head mark in that the value
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: to The bucks the last ten years Was gianna To
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 6: bucks fans and especially the masses the casual, fans the
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 6: ones that they struggled to get so many years to
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 6: come to The Bradley center before Five serve was.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: Built was the, stardom was.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 6: The potential for winning was the true attraction of a
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: true star player that could help you and eventually did
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 6: win a chanceampionship bring that level of energy to The
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: it brought in casual, fans you, know people that would
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 6: never have known A bucks player on the roster and
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: move you. Honest but if you, are if you are
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: a fan that loves The bucks no matter, what and you're,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: there you will be energized by seeing a new young
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: group of fresh start and a fresh set of eyes
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: and a new coach that gives new hope right to
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: a franchise whose direction was trying to.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: Hang on to a closing window at the.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: End and let's face, it a long lot of frustration
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: last year about what would happen to be, honest and
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: a lot of uncertainty that frustrated a lot of fans, Also,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: MARK i think the tickets might go down a little
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: bit for some people that wanted to go To bucks
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: game and.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: COULDN'T i, Mean i've already.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: Booked, in and people that JUST i don't even sit
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: in the front. ROW i haven't wrote ten behind The bucks.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Bench WHEN i tell people how MUCH i pay for one,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: ticket they can't they can't believe. It but that's just THE,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: nba more than any sport we, have is able to
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: command a mass price for the good. Ticket now the
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: corner of the upper deck is still a cheap, ticket
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: and the first year people are already locked in on.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: That but single game things probably lots of. Discounts let
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: me throw it this way To. Hunter part of it
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: is how good or how bad they're going to. Be
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: is this a sixteen and sixty six team or is
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: this a team that might go forty one and forty
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: one and get a chance to sneak into the.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 7: Playoffs, well we all remember how tough last season was
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 7: and they still won thirty nine, Games SO i think
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 7: that's something to think.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: About and of.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 7: Course they Had yannis for some of, it he was
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 7: hurt for some of. It BUT i do think that
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 7: this is a team, that with how they're built is,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 7: YEAH i don't think they're winning sixteen. GAMES i think
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 7: they're winning more like in that thirty five forty. Range
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 7: and maybe depending how you know bad The east, is
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 7: could you be in? It because there's ten teams that
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 7: now get in THE i mean before of those getting
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 7: to play in but you're you're at least getting in the,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 7: postseason so to, speak maybe you are in contention for
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 7: one of those spots if you do get upper of
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 7: forty forty five. Wins SO i don't think this is
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 7: a horrible. TEAM i think at times they'll be, entertaining
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 7: BUT i kind of see it as a similar record
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 7: to last, year at least to start, out until these
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: guys develop and they really get who they.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: Won five hundred team it means you win more than
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: half your home, games and that will keep fans happy
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: if they. Do you think they can be that good
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: or as that pint, WELL.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: I think it's more likely than not that they are
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 6: under five hundred and they're not very. Good BUT i
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: doubt they'll be awful because of the players they're getting,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: back and because it's important to remember in the Games
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 6: giannis played last, year they were seventeen and. Nineteen they
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: weren't necessarily so much better With GIANNI'S i think that that,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: team uniquely and specifically Under Doc, rivers you, know inconsistent,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 6: leadership felt more comfortable playing together Without giannis for those long,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: stretches and when he came back it was an awkward.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: Fit they didn't know what to.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: DO i think it's possible with the right culture setting
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: and the right identity From Taylor, jenkins and if they
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: find the right mix of, talent especially If tyler provides the,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: scoring that they could definitely win thirty two to thirty
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: eight games and maybe be in the mix for a play.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: IN i think it's less likely than, not BUT i
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 6: think it's.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: POSSIBLE i think they can be okay BECAUSE i think
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: they're better than they were this year Because giannis wasn't.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: There wasn't, there, well it wasn't there half the, time
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: and things just internally were a. Mess the challenge will
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: be to get all of these players to figure out
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: how to work with one. Another it helps that four
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: of them are coming from the same team and some
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: of the other holdovers are. There the one big problem
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: they have is every team has a go to, guy
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: even bad.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: TEAMS i don't know who The bucks go to guy.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: Is if he stays in the, Roster, Tyler herro is
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: gonna think that It's. Tyler Maybe Miles turner thinks it
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: should be, Him Maybe kuzma thinks it should Be.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: Hit it could be one of the.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: GUARDS i mean they, have they have, QUARTERBACK i mean
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: he's he can be an elite score they, Have, yeah they.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Have i'm losing the name of all the, guard the
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: baby baby pace, guard the guy that emerge they had
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: the really good Years. Rolls, yeah he can score the
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: ball as. Well, yeah but those are those who we all.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: Know at the end of the game the ball was
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: likely to go To. Yannis nobody has any idea who
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: that's going to be this time.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: Around BUT i think they have a good.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: COACH i think that they've made a pretty good start
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: in what it is that they need to, do and
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: they're not going to have to do the thing That
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: detroit had to do And Okay se had to do
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: and so many other teams do and. Stink and what
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: a final thought of. THIS i know Why miami did.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: This miami is a city that wants to have a,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: champion and Pat riley's in his, eighties he wants one last.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: CHANCE i think they. OVERPAID i also think That yannis
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: is a terrible. Risk he couldn't stay healthy With milwaukee this.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: Year the style of play that he has tear at
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: the basket with abandon is a massive injury, risk and
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: he's now over. Thirty in those cartilage and tendons that were,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: SO i, mean this is the guy who to his
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: acl in a playoff game but it was, torn but
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: it didn't care because he's got cartilage that is so
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: strong and ligaman instead are.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: So, strong they didn't.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Care you looked at his knee in That brooklyn, game
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: but it was all over the place and it DIDN'T
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: i don't know that going To miami and being over
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: thirty that he's not going to be a. Guy it's
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: constantly hurt that He's Anthony davis or somebody like. That
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: SO i think it's a terrible risk and they gave
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: up a whole lot for, him and even after doing,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: IT i don't think anybody thinks That miami is going
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: to win THE Nba.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: Championship you, know the big risk is the.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: Injury, obviously with the, HONEST i think the thing was
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: Pat riley's white whale was the. Honest he wanted to
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: get him for a. While he was willing to give
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: it up and try and make this run with him And.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: Bam now they have to try and build a team
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: around them because they don't have too many guys. Left
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: but that risk is realance. There, however if he is
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: healthy and everyone's saying because he didn't play In europe this.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 6: Summer he might be more refreshed motivated if he can stay.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 6: HEALTHY i still think he's one of the, best but
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: what they do at the guard, position they have a
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: lot of questions to, answer but the east can be wide.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: Open, well SO i think about a white. Whale for
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: going back twenty years as a buck stand the guy
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: THAT i always wanted to be a buck Was Gary.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: PAYTON i thought he was the best defensive guard in
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: the history of the, game an unbelievably tough.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: COMPETITOR i wanted to be a. BUCK i wanted the.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: GLOVE i wanted the. GLOVE i wanted to go and we.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: Got him too. Late he was half, good washed.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: Up yannis at twenty seven isn't going to be honest
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: at thirty. One and WHY i worry About yanis at
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: thirty three and thirty. Four he's not a typical player
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: in that he never. Loafs you can you Know Michael
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: jordan And Kobe bryant knew how to take it easy
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: for a couple of periods in a.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: Game yannis is constantly playing at full, tilt and that's
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: a risk of an. Injury, overall did The bucks handle
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: this transition great a scale of zero to, ten ten
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: being they made the best you possibly could have. It
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: zero they butchered it. Entirely i'll start With.
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  Speaker 7: Hunter it's hard to give it a ten just because
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: you're trading Away, yannis AND i would hope.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: That that was a given that kind of, Leave, okay Then, Nia,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah i'd give it probably a good solid eight or you,
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  Speaker 2: KNOW i.
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  Speaker 7: THINK i think it's tough to say because it's, like
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 7: what exactly Does giannis quantify in a return in the? Trade,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 7: Right it's hard to quantify that and say that's exactly
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 7: what they should have. Gotten BUT i would say about
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 7: eight out of.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: Ten i'd say eight as, well or eight and a,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: half just BECAUSE i think given the, situation which was,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: untenable the fact Is John horst still played The celtics
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: And heat against each other to get the most value
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: out of it that he. Could the irony is That
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 6: giannis could have been more verbal and more public about
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 6: his intentions to sign a long term extension with the
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 6: team he. Wanted he didn't do, it and because of,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: that he kept his cell got other teams in the,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: dark and maybe in the end that helped The bucks
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: get the best. Value the one thing you could say
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 6: that would have been better is maybe they could have
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: pulled the plug on this, earlier made the, trade not
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: done The dame, thing not than The doc. Thing but,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: honestly at the point when you Got, DAME i think
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: you had to take that swing and still try this.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: Time you can't want a championship a lot of, superstar
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: although maybe The knicks just said you can't want to
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: champione a lot of. Superstar they had a, superstar so
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: they had to. Try it is not their fault That
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: lily ended up getting. Hurt it's not their fault That
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: Miles turner turned out to be a. Bust they tried
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: when they had the opportunity to do, so and they
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: didn't have that opportunity. Anymore and a curse to me
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: to ask one last. Question and by the, WAY i
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: have not worked in my Producer Jason Gotch and the
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: REASON i haven't is because he's working the. Headphones BUT
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: i do want to turn to him for about ninety seconds,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: here you're not A bucks, Fan you're a you're, YEAH
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: i mean you're. Not you're better around Wearing cubs clothes
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: and all of this crap and so on as somebody
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: who doesn't have any emotional skin in the. GAME i
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: want to GIVE i want to give you like two
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: minutes here for your full assessment of just the, overall
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: the overall of all of.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 8: It everybody makes good. POINTS i take a different picture
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 8: of this BECAUSE i look at the big picture of
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 8: THE nba AND i, say, yes this Year's knicks team
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 8: won the. Championship Jalen brunson played like a, superstar even
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 8: if he's not. One the Four pistons won it with
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 8: guys Like Rip hamilton And CHOHn billups not. Superstars if
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 8: you're gonna win in THE nba a championship other than those,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 8: examples you need a superstar to. Win and you Trade giannis.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 8: Away you traded a, superstar, granity, dead injury problems in recent,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 8: years and you got back a lot of maybe. Potential
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 8: BUT i just look at That Jalen brown, opportunity AND i,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 8: say what if it would have worked? Out what if
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 8: you would have Gotten Jaalen? Brown and you trade a
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 8: superstar for a, superstar they throw in a draft, pick
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 8: and all of a, sudden you're a contender in The Eastern.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 8: Conference right, Away you're not throwing away, season so to.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 8: Speak so from that, PERSPECTIVE i preferred The boston. DEAL
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 8: i hope For bucks fans this works. Out but when
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 8: you're not getting the draft picks until twenty thirty one
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 8: or twenty thirty, two and you got all these moving
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 8: parts to go, THROUGH i get what they're trying to.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 8: Do but from an outsider's, perspective and Again i'm NOT
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 8: i worked For newstuck eleven, THIRTY wi, said not trying
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 8: to Dis. Wisconsin The packers are a. Destination people want
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 8: to play for The. Packers It's Lambeau, fields it's the,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 8: greatness it's an iconic. FRANCHISE i don't think in THE
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 8: nba circles it's The bucks are a great, organization but
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 8: they're not going To miami Or New york or play
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 8: for The. Lakers so to get that superstar, again it's
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 8: so much easier said than. Done so from that, POINT
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 8: i worry For bucks fans that it's going to be
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 8: a long time until they get that.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: Superstar if you don't have, that you are right now
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: you can't.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: WIN i think you can't. WIN i think without a,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: superstar and there's either one on the roster who's going
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: to turn into one or one that they're going to
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: have to get in future yours in the.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: Draft so let's leave it with. This if the current
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: member of The bucks makes THE Nba hall Of, fame
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: who will it? Be you want to, Start jason.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 8: If If, wow that is really putting me on the.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 8: Spot if a current member of The, bucks if you had, to.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: For, example take a flyer and bet on one guy
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: pulling it off and.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 8: Doing, It i'll go crazy And i'll, Say, ay met
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 8: the guy they just, Got maybe he develops into a great,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 8: player BECAUSE i don't SEE i, Mean Tyler herro is
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 8: not making The hall Of. Fame great, player but he's
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 8: not making The hall Of.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: FAME i, mean he's the most LIKE i think he.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: Could it's but again that's up to. Him he's got
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: to continue to improve and. Develop if he can get
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: his scoring average up to twenty five a game rather
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: than twenty that you.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: Know a lot of. Players basketball actually puts a lot
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: of guys into.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 6: The thresholds lower in THE Nba hall Of, fame And
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: richmond's in The hall Of.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: Fame Michael red came close to being A hall Of fame.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: Player so it's not an impossible Bar armand the.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 6: Only REASON i say heroes he's already made An All.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 6: Stars he might be the best. Chance it might be
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 6: a guy that we don't know about, yet but you
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 6: said current, roster so it probably would be one of
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 6: the two rookies they drafted last. Night but of course
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 6: that's a super you, know ran a super lottery. Projection you,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 6: know it's like hitting the. Lotto the Reason i'd say
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 6: hero is if he can stay healthy and continue to
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 6: score at the clip he can score, at then maybe
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 6: at the end of the of his, career we'd add
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 6: it up and say this threshold been reached to make
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 6: The hall Of. Fame for a, while people didn't Think
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 6: ray had a, Chance but then when he added up
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 6: his career and compiled it at the, end he, said
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 6: you know, What Ray allen's definitely A hall Of.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 5: FAMER i Think.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: Burrey's is A Ray allen type. Player and again it's
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: up to. Him Ray, allen he had a shot in
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: the corner to win AN nba. Championship you have to
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: become a player who does. That but he has those. Tools,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: hunter if there's a buck that makes The hall Of,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: fame who would.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 7: It Be, OOH i will go With hero just because
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 7: he's already you, know not a bit of the way.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 7: There it's not like he's on A hall Of fame
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 7: trajectory at right. Now but, if like you, said if
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 7: he adds some things to his game and continues to
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 7: get that scoring, up maybe it's. Possible but for the
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 7: sake of the, Conversation i'll go With. Burrey's for the
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 7: other first round, Pick.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: I'd probably, say a, man there is another guy on
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: this team that everybody talks about is having a world of.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: Potential he just couldn't hit it In.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: Miami Killol ware is only twenty one years, old and
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: there are people who think that he has the ability
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: to be a super. Star BUT i will ADMIT i
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: haven't seen any of that so far In. Miami it
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: might surface, here all.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: Right that was our kind of in depth.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: DISCUSSION i want to Thank Jason, gotch my, Producer Arman,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: sarion And, hudderbaumgart both Of iHeart sports AND am nine
• 1:32:13
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• 1:32:14
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