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Fluoride In Drinking Water · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Winter Insurance. Did I'm true, I'm a check Out one Insurance,
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  Speaker 2: Everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm your host Adam
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  Speaker 2: Todd Brown joining me as co host this week. Donor's here.
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  Speaker 2: How's it going?
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  Speaker 3: Man? Going great? How you doing, Adam?
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  Speaker 2: I am doing fantastic, just like everyone is doing right now.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great time to be alive. And we have
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  Speaker 2: a fantastic guest with us today. Alie Gogowski's here.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Hi, how's it going?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Just wonderful.
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  Speaker 4: Perfect.
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  Speaker 2: We're in La. Everything's great in La.
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly no fires here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We're all excited about our new president.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and we're we're talking about our new what's
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  Speaker 2: RFK Junior's role in.
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  Speaker 5: The health's health secretary or some ceretary of health. There's
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  Speaker 5: something with health.
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  Speaker 3: I heard a woman at the car wash the other
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  Speaker 3: day talk about RFK and she said, yeah, and then
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  Speaker 3: there's RFK. He's going to make us healthy again. But
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  Speaker 3: the way she said it was like, Oh, that's Gordon.
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  Speaker 3: He's the big steam engine. He carries all the coal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. What we're talking about today actually makes me feel
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  Speaker 2: a little better about RFK. Junior, just in this one respect,
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  Speaker 2: because this theory isn't as crazy as it seems, which
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  Speaker 2: is the theory that fluoride in drinking water could be
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  Speaker 2: a bad thing. It seems like that's very possible. It's
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  Speaker 2: just not a bad thing in the way a lot
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  Speaker 2: of conspiracy theory make it out to be case. I point,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a communist plot to take over the United States.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think might be.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm pro fluoride in the water.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think he wants to take it out to make
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  Speaker 5: us all sick so then we'll spend more money on
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  Speaker 5: health insurance.
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  Speaker 3: See, I'm pro fluoride in the water because I want
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  Speaker 3: to go to sleep. I want to believe the government's lies,
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  Speaker 3: you know. I want to buy into the fucking military
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  Speaker 3: industrial complex. I don't want to be a free thinker.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to have all this fucking doubt in
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  Speaker 3: my head. Just like, make me a fucking surf, give
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  Speaker 3: me the fluoride.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm still on the fence. I think
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It seems like we could do without it, maybe.
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  Speaker 3: But try what if we try it without it for
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  Speaker 3: a month or two, you know, Yeah, to see how
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  Speaker 3: it goes see if we all become amazing painters and
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  Speaker 3: sculptors and shit.
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  Speaker 5: But you're saying that nobody has been an amazing painter
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  Speaker 5: and sculptor and since what the nineteen forty is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm saying they had to fight through
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  Speaker 3: their calcified pineal glands in order to bring us those masterpieces.
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  Speaker 4: I disagree. I don't think Florid, but.
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  Speaker 3: At least is distancing herself very early in the show,
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  Speaker 3: which is how you know it's gonna be a good episode.
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  Speaker 4: No, because I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Pro Florid, and I think it's a conspiracy that they're
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  Speaker 5: taking it out because they want to make us sick
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  Speaker 5: and our bones brittle and our teeth rotted out. My
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  Speaker 5: teeth are perfect, and I've been drinking that Florid shit
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  Speaker 5: all my life.
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  Speaker 3: We do need bones and teeth. I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 3: Lord knows I'm not taking care of my own bone.
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  Speaker 2: Is there evidence that it makes bones stronger?
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  Speaker 5: I think it does. I have healthy teeth. I can
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  Speaker 5: bite it through a fucking apple, no problem.
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  Speaker 3: WHOA, Well, that's flex right, humble brag.
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  Speaker 4: I've never had a cavity.
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  Speaker 2: Never. Never, I've had a bunch. Why is it florade
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  Speaker 2: working for me?
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  Speaker 4: You're probably not drinking enough of it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I drink a shit ton of water, yeah, more
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  Speaker 2: than me.
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  Speaker 3: Never had a cavity. I think Alas is an op.
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  Speaker 3: It's suspicious.
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  Speaker 5: Am I supposed to be pro taking the florid out
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  Speaker 5: of the water? Because that's not what I got from
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  Speaker 5: this prompt? What am I supposed to be on your side?
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  Speaker 2: No, you don't have to be on anyone's side.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, then shut the fuck up, Connor.
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  Speaker 3: I thought I was joking around on this comedy podcast. Hoops.
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  Speaker 4: No, there's no joking about floride.
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  Speaker 2: Seems like it. So the conspiracy theories about this didn't
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  Speaker 2: start with the movie Doctor Strangelove, but it sure seems
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  Speaker 2: like that's where it kind of entered the mainstream. The
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  Speaker 2: mainstream right.
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  Speaker 4: I saw, but.
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  Speaker 2: Of that movie involves starting a nuclear war to thwart
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  Speaker 2: a communist plot to quote SAP and impurify the precious
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  Speaker 2: bodily fluids of the American people by way of fluoridated water.
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  Speaker 2: Does anyone seemed Doctor Strangelove? I have not.
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  Speaker 4: I saw it a lot long time ago.
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  Speaker 3: It reminds me of like people that took adrenochrome from
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  Speaker 3: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and spun it off
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  Speaker 3: into a whole other universe of like conspiracy theories, like
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  Speaker 3: the thing from a movie that we forgot was from
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  Speaker 3: a movie.
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  Speaker 2: I still always forget that that kind of started with
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  Speaker 2: that movie. Hunter S.
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  Speaker 3: Thompson was as good at thinking the cool ass names
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  Speaker 3: for things for the book. Probably right, Yeah, it's in
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  Speaker 3: the book.
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  Speaker 2: OK So, yeah, it's been a controversial thing or as
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  Speaker 2: long as it's been happening, which was the nineteen forties.
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  Speaker 2: What I find really interesting is this is not settled
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  Speaker 2: science at all in terms of whether fluoride's safe to
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  Speaker 2: be in water, whether it actually works the way we
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  Speaker 2: think it does for teeth. None of that seems to
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  Speaker 2: actually have been resolved because I have it later in
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  Speaker 2: the notes. But the cd SEE in nineteen ninety nine
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  Speaker 2: reverse course and said fluoride works topically. It works on
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  Speaker 2: the tooth after the tooth has grown into your mouth.
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  Speaker 3: So I should like I should switch it around to
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  Speaker 3: my mouth like listerine.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's in toothpaste and mouthwash. And the CDC
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  Speaker 2: way back in nineteen ninety nine said, like, that's how
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  Speaker 2: you use fluoride to make your teeth better.
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  Speaker 3: So why are we drinking it?
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  Speaker 2: Man? I don't know, and not everyone does. It's not
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  Speaker 2: a federally mandated thing. It's a state thing gets state
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  Speaker 2: by state California.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I would love to be such a serious conspiracy
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  Speaker 3: theorist where I'd be like, come on, honey, we're packing
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  Speaker 3: up the kids and we're going to a no fluoride state.
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  Speaker 2: It does seem like if it has negative health impacts,
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  Speaker 2: it's more on babies, and well, fuck who cares? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like in the womb and come on, what do we big.
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  Speaker 3: If they can't survive a little fluoride? Do we really
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  Speaker 3: mucking up society voting and driving and eating for food?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think. So.
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  Speaker 2: It's an excellent point. So as a result of all
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  Speaker 2: of this uncertainty around it, that's why there's so many
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  Speaker 2: conspiracy theories around it. When scientists don't even completely agree
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  Speaker 2: on something, conspiracy theorists are going to have a fucking
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  Speaker 2: field day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're at two out of four dentists no man's land.
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  Speaker 4: So then why do they think it's a communist thing
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  Speaker 4: to make us dumb?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that was back in the nineteen forties and fifties,
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  Speaker 2: primarily that theory fell out of favor with Doctor Strangelove.
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  Speaker 2: Once Doctor Strangelove parodied it, people started not believing it anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And there were even anti fluoride types at the time
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  Speaker 2: or since who talk about the communist thing and they're like,
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  Speaker 2: don't say it's communism. It's not fucking communism. That's not
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  Speaker 2: the problem. But in the forties and fifties, everything was communism.
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  Speaker 2: That's just what this country did. We sniffed out communists.
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  Speaker 2: It was our whole fucking thing. It's what the Office
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  Speaker 2: of Naval Intelligence was doing.
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  Speaker 3: You could literally be like, sorry, dad, I got to
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  Speaker 3: see because I was up late to be just worried
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  Speaker 3: about the Communists, you know, the Reds coming to put
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  Speaker 3: stuff in my water to make me gay.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you could kind of at that time if
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  Speaker 2: he wanted to just go to someone and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I think my kid's teacher is a communist, and they'd
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  Speaker 2: at least get talked to by the government.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you get a knock on the door, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was a crazy time because this did
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  Speaker 2: start during the Second Red Scare.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the ultimate cavity creep Joe McCarthy.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, it kicked off during the Second Red Scare,
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  Speaker 2: so that's when you know we were all up in
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  Speaker 2: arms about communists everywhere. I've told the story a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of times. The only reason Dodger Stadium is where it
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  Speaker 2: is is because that used to be a community of
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  Speaker 2: Mexican immigrants, and this guy was like, man, we should
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  Speaker 2: tear that down and rebuild it better for them and
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  Speaker 2: let them move back in. And the city approved the plan,
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  Speaker 2: and then at one point someone was like, oh no,
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  Speaker 2: actually that's communism what you're proposing. So once everyone was
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  Speaker 2: moved out, they threw that guy in fucking prison for
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  Speaker 2: a year and then built Dodger Stadium on.
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  Speaker 3: That for the crime of sustainable urban planning.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that was deemed communism, and he went to
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  Speaker 2: fucking prison for it.
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  Speaker 3: Not to get all eugenic on the show, but it
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  Speaker 3: is surprising that so many Mexican people still fuck with
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  Speaker 3: the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 2: I've said that so many times, and I think, I
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  Speaker 2: honestly think a big part of it is just Fernando Valenzuela.
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  Speaker 3: Laughing because I'm pretending I get the reference. That's sports.
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  Speaker 2: He was a pitcher for the Dodgers in the eighties.
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  Speaker 2: There is a mural of him somewhere near.
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  Speaker 3: Where you used to live Echo Park.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you used to live in that nightmare house
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  Speaker 2: where record. There's a Fernando Valenzuela mural somewhere around there.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's not far.
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  Speaker 3: It's been replaced with three Kobegg murals that are very
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  Speaker 3: poorly drawn.
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  Speaker 2: That would not surprise me at all. So, yeah, the
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  Speaker 2: communism stuff, it started during the Second Red Scare. The
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  Speaker 2: first fluoridation of water was in nineteen forty five in Michigan,
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  Speaker 2: and the first successful effort to block fluoride in water
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  Speaker 2: happened in Wisconsin in nineteen fifty. And even then that
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  Speaker 2: was kind of just on communist rounds more than anything.
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  Speaker 4: So Wisconsin doesn't have any fluoride in their water.
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  Speaker 2: They do now. I think most of the United States
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  Speaker 2: has at least some fluoride in their water, and even
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  Speaker 2: the part where some studies have shown that it might
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  Speaker 2: have detrimental effects on brain development, there's only I think
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  Speaker 2: less than two million people who are currently drinking tap
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  Speaker 2: water with that level of floride in it. So even
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  Speaker 2: if it's a problem, it's not a huge problem.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the people in Wisconsin. I mean, who cares?
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  Speaker 3: These are lost leaders of the American population.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I thought they didn't have floride. So I was
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  Speaker 5: curious how many artists came from Wisconsin that you could name.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, does Eric Foreman from that seventies show count.
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  Speaker 2: I lived in Wisconsin for a few years. The water
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  Speaker 2: in Wisconsin is surprisingly bad, especially in the rural areas.
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  Speaker 3: They put cheese in it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's mostly just molten cheese. And I was at
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  Speaker 2: a bar once and was and there was literally a
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  Speaker 2: sign on the wall that was like, hey, you're pregnant,
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  Speaker 2: don't wash your hands.
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  Speaker 5: What it's worse than Flint, Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know how. It never became a big story.
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  Speaker 2: But not long after the Flint Michigan thing broke, I
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  Speaker 2: want to say it was Reuters did a investigation and
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  Speaker 2: found that there are actually like three thousand communities in
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  Speaker 2: the United States that have the same problem Flint has, Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Three thousand. How many fucking communities are there? Eight thousand?
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that was my question. Do we have enough
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  Speaker 2: states to have three thousand fucking communities?
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  Speaker 3: What a ratio? My god? Am I looking at one
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  Speaker 3: of milo Yaianopolis's tweets.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's nuts. And so it seems like the main
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  Speaker 2: claim now is more floride makes kids stupid, and yeah, maybe,
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  Speaker 2: but also anything all any of these studies is ever
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  Speaker 2: said is that it lowers IQ by a few points.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, well, what are we talking like one
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  Speaker 2: twenty five versus one twenty one? Because if so, that's
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  Speaker 2: that's still fine. But it doesn't seem like it has
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  Speaker 2: that much of an effect. But it also seems like
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't have maybe as much benefit as we thought before.
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  Speaker 3: Going through these different angles. It is definitely like a
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  Speaker 3: cost benefit analysis that you have to do with the fluoride,
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, I don't know quite what to make of
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  Speaker 3: it either.
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  Speaker 2: There is another conspiracy that popped up around the eighties
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  Speaker 2: that claimed the Nazis used fluoride on concentration camps and
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  Speaker 2: in the ghettos in Germany, and.
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  Speaker 4: They had amazing teeth if you checked the yeah records.
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  Speaker 3: They wanted to protect the gold fillings they were going
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  Speaker 3: to take in a few months.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and PolitiFact reached out to a Holocaust expert who
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  Speaker 2: put them in touch with a historian named Patricia Hebberer.
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  Speaker 2: And the Nazi thing is a myth. She was like,
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  Speaker 2: not only did they not put lride in the water,
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  Speaker 2: they barely gave Jews water in Germany by it was
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  Speaker 2: just like no water in the ghettos, the concentration camps,
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  Speaker 2: much less floridated water.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a much quicker way to suppress somebody. Huh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's way easier than messing with the water.
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  Speaker 3: Taking down four IQ points and waiting for natural selection
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  Speaker 3: to run its course.
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  Speaker 2: What people cite when they are making that claim is
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  Speaker 2: a nineteen eighty seven booklet by a Australian writer self published.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of damage from a booklet, not even a
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  Speaker 3: full book, A booklet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, booklet by a writer named ian E Stevens, and
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  Speaker 2: an excerpt that booklet was published in a new age
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  Speaker 2: publication in Australia called Nexus in nineteen ninety five. No Rush,
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  Speaker 2: and this was his claim. Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts
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  Speaker 2: of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to
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  Speaker 2: resist domination by slowly poisoning and narketizing a certain area
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  Speaker 2: of the brain, and will thus make him submissive to
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  Speaker 2: the will of those who wished to govern him. Both
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  Speaker 2: the Germans and the Russians added sodium fluoride to the
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  Speaker 2: drinking water prisoners of war to make them stupid and docile,
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  Speaker 2: and quote and yeah, that does seem like such a
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  Speaker 2: long con to run out when I mean they were
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  Speaker 2: gasing people.
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  Speaker 3: It is the same basic argument as like the New
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  Speaker 3: Age pineal gland people. But we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, I missed that one. That's going to
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  Speaker 2: be the Connor segment at the end.
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  Speaker 3: Connor's corollary.
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  Speaker 2: And people also cite a two thousand and four book
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  Speaker 2: by an investigative journalist named Christopher Bryson called The Fluoride
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  Speaker 2: Deception when they're making this claim about Nazis. Problem with
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  Speaker 2: that book, it's not what the title suggests. It's just
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  Speaker 2: a history of opposition to fluoridation in water. It's not
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  Speaker 2: a conspiracy theory book about fluoride in water being a problem.
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  Speaker 2: And they reached out to the guy who wrote it
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  Speaker 2: and he literally said, I never came across any documentation
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  Speaker 2: or credible information showing that fluoride was used in Nazi
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  Speaker 2: death camps.
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  Speaker 3: When you're writing the book about something as boring as fluoride,
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  Speaker 3: you've got to give it a clickbait title. You know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so then that brings us to what are
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  Speaker 2: the actual arguments against fluoride as opposed to the conspiracy
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  Speaker 2: theory stuff? And where better to get those answers than
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  Speaker 2: from our anti flo loride crusader in chief RFK Junior.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, do we even know where his stuff comes from?
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  Speaker 3: They're killing the babies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the first person who can like
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  Speaker 2: accurately nail that voice. Man, they're gonna be rich. You
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  Speaker 2: gotta like cut in and out like you have a
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  Speaker 2: bad zoom connection.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to buffer your voice somehow, like it's
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  Speaker 3: forty four killer herts coming over a bad Wi Fi connection. No, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean I smoked from the twenty one to thirty one,
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  Speaker 3: and I can't make my voice fucked up enough to
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  Speaker 3: sound even close to that bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild.
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  Speaker 5: Oh No, I think it's the worm I'm doing the talking,
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  Speaker 5: not him. It's like the guy from Men in Black
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  Speaker 5: when he puts on the skin suit. Yeah, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 5: an aliens inside of him.
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  Speaker 2: So this video, I will I'll give you the good news.
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  Speaker 2: Our FK Junior does not talk a lot in this video.
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  Speaker 2: It is more an attorney named Michael Kannitt, who basically
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  Speaker 2: took the EPA to court to try and compel them
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  Speaker 2: to change their standards when it comes to fluoride in water.
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  Speaker 2: And he actually makes some pretty interesting points, and the
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  Speaker 2: things that happened in this lawsuit are kind of sketchy.
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  Speaker 2: For example, the EPA did not call their own in
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  Speaker 2: house fluoride experts as witnesses in this trial. They reached
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  Speaker 2: out to people in the chemical industry, like Monsano types
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  Speaker 2: and had their experts come and talk. So this guy
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  Speaker 2: called the EPA's in house experts as witnesses and showed
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  Speaker 2: them this report that came out in two thousand and six.
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  Speaker 2: That one does suggest that there are some links between
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  Speaker 2: fluoride and water and reduced IQ in children. And it
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  Speaker 2: also recommended that the EPA lower the acceptable level of
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  Speaker 2: fluoride in water from like four like micrograms per leeter,
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  Speaker 2: what the fuck.
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  Speaker 3: Ever parts per million or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the two and the EPA never did that. And
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  Speaker 2: when he called their witnesses to be deposed and showed
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  Speaker 2: them this report, they were both like, yeah, on these grounds,
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  Speaker 2: it probably should be something that is re examined at
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  Speaker 2: some point. So I found that pretty compelling.
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  Speaker 5: I want to know what these kids are though, what
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: they were just stupid to begin with. They just found
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: the stupidest kids and then they tested them.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it could be.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's the conspiracy right there, confirmation bias.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: You can also read the report. It's not mystery like
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: it's out there.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I'm not big into reading fluoride growing up.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: The report came out in two thousand and six.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: You know, I just realized every time I take an
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: IQ test, I get like one thirty five and one
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: forties genius. I just realized fluoride cheated me out of
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: fucking mensa status. Oh as meaningless as that is.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: There was a basically a televised IQ test a long
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: time ago. It was just like a trivia show, but
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: you were taking an IQ test.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Are you smarter than a fifth grader?
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: One of the most shocking things about it, South Dakota
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: came in first.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Hey, I guess you got nothing with no electricity, you
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: got nothing to do but read.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's the thing. I lived in South Dakota
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: at the time, and my IQ according to that show,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: was one thirty eight. So I also got fucked out
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: a genius level man in drinking water and now Old
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Bulkowski's here to fucking advocate for it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Robin or nose, isn't it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I never took an IQ test. Ignorance is bliss.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Adam has lived in every state that Bruce Springsteen has
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: written a song about a character from.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Basically. So he also deposed a CDC representative and he
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: was like, what information do you have on the impacts
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: of fluoride in water? And the guy was like, Nah,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: the EPA tracks that, and so he asked the EPA
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: and they were like, no, CDC takes care of that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: So it seems like something no one is really monitoring
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: at all, probably just because it's been happening for so
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: long and we're fine.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's not like a it's not a five
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: alarm fire, you know. Yeah, A couple South Dakota and
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: IQ points.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: And there is another interesting detail that comes up during
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: this trial. There were two undisputed facts, meaning the EPA
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: agreed had no objection. One, fluoride gets through the placenta
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: and enters the fetal brain. Two, the blood brain barrier
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: that protects us from neurotoxins entering the brain is not
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: developed in the womb or for like the first six
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: months of life. So it is possible that fluoride in
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: drinking water does impact the babies in some way, but
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: all of the studies just kind of suggest it because
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: there's not really enough information to prove it.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you'd need someone to give you a
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: bunch of money, and a bunch of people would have
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: to put up a bunch of babies and be like,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: all right, let's san blast them with floride and we'll see.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: What's what I mean, we gotta I mean, these are
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: the babies that could save all the other babies, So
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, in a way, it'll be a stupid hero
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: your child.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: The video does bring up another theory that I found
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: really interesting, and far be it from me to suggest
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: that corporate America could ever get up to high jinks
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: of this nature. But what they suggest is that one,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: there were a bunch of people who worked on the
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Manhattan Project who were in some way injured by coming
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: into contact with fluoride or fluorine. And two that a
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: bunch of corporations at the time, like chemical companies things
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: are like, were polluting the water in the environment with
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: fluoride and that they knew this was going to become
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: litigation at some point. So what they did to head
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: that off was round up a few influenceable scientists, which
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: they absolutely exist.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Check out the Dead Kennedy song well paid Scientists from
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we know they're out there. They're scientists
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: that will tell you COVID isn't real.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Well, there's still scientists they're like, wow, cigarettes are you know?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're not bad for your bones?
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I had an argument on the podcast with a
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: comedian who some doctor got it in this guy's head
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: that cigarettes aren't addictive and nicotine's not addictive. Well, then
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: what the fuck is it?
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: It's really cool.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Obviously that but yeah, the suggestion is that they influenced
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: scientists to put it out there that hey, fluoride is
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: a thing we need, we should actually put it in
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: our water. And that movement worked, and now we have
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: fluoride in our water when it's actually a pollutant.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: This is very easy to believe. For me. This is
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: feeling like the most plausible Occam's razor of human shittiness.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't, especially back then, that was the nineteen forties.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: We didn't have laws like we were testing nuclear weapons
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: all over the place and just watching that shit through binoculars.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: That could not have been safe, right, I would think, yeah,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: and it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Just was probably easier to be corrupt. I mean, we've
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: had almost one hundred more years of science since then.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: And yeah, that's the other thing, these initiatives to put
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: fluoride in water. There's still not a ton of science
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: behind how safe it is now. So imagine what we
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: had in nineteen forty five, Almost no science behind it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just one guide Exxon going yeah, it's like it's
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: good for your bones.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, I mean if that is really how
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: it happened, then I feel like we shouldn't have fluoride
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: in our drinking water. Like, I know, it sucks to
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: have to agree with our FK junior, but.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Is that really what happened? Though? This is under a theory,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: that's their header.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: It's a theory for sure.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, evolution is a theory.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. This sounds believable, but I
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: don't want to believe it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I like Florid, well, you have great teeth, so you're
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: biased exactly.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: It's Florid.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: You don't have a fucking haunted jack lantern in your
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: mouth like I do.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: It's because my parents loved me enough to get bright,
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: says me.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Either're like, this is a low IQ flooride. Baby, it's
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: fuck it. Teeth are straight and brown, like uh, Kobe Bryant.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I couldn't think of a heterosexual black guy fast enough
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: for that joke.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my teeth aren't the greatest. But also I have
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: this like tiny bird mouth, so whenever sees my teeth,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: I have to get a crown on one of my
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: front teeth. No shit, I'm gonna get a gold tooth.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Fuck yeah, before you said it, I knew it.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is life goals right there, right there. Oh,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I'll see my fucking teeth. That's like that's instant teeth
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: whitening too, because now like everything.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Is like, oh, that's right. It's like getting a tan
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: instead of whitening your teeth.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's just like less yellow.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: It's like getting a face tattoo if you're fat. Everyone
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: just focuses on the you know, I just see the one.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: So one of the things I found pretty into that
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: comes up in that video, and I went out and
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: found the report from the CDC in nineteen ninety nine,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the CDC did a study into fluoride in drinking water,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: and for the longest time, the belief was you had
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: to ingest it to get the benefits from it, And
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I mentioned this earlier in the pod. Also in nineteen
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: ninety nine, they issued this report and reversed that. They
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: said fluoride works best as a topical thing, like when
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: you apply it directly to your teeth via toothpaste or mouthwash.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: So if nothing else, the CDC has kind of implied
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: we don't need fluoride in drinking water. And at that point,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like, why why have it?
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: It's got to be costing somebody some money, you would think, like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: It's the benefit for people because a lot of people
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: don't have access to dental hygiene or going to the dentist.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: If they get the flora and at least they have
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: some kind of production.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: It's a government safety net for your teeth, I think.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: So, I think the government's done some good, not all good,
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: but like they've done some good things.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: That's I'm not saying. I'm not saying you're wrong with
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: It's a hard nut to sell on conspiracy. The show the.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Government changed the Golf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: And you're gonna tell me the government hasn't done one
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: good thing.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Undeniably good.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: They did have our back with that one.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: I know, I can afford to buy a house now.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: It's great.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Trump had a mandate when he entered office to
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: change the name of the Gulf of Mexico.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: My god, a one point four percent mandate.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I found that CDC thing pretty interesting. There's
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: also the two thousand and six National Research Council study
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: that gets referenced in that video a whole lot. The
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: scientists behind it are some of these same scientists apparently
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: who studied the effects of lead in children. And that's
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: why we don't put lead paint in houses anymore, I have.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I thought that study was about Mexican candy. That stuff
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: is good, though, You're like, you're eating it, and you're like, lead,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: I can have a little lead. Am I going to
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: die from a couple of micrograms of lead?
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Lunchables too? It came out that those in lunchibles possibly
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: have a shit ton of lead, and boy was out,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, for me, I love me a disc
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: of processed turkey.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to say, what's more American than that?
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: That's more American than the Gulf of America. That's a
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: highly productized process. Food for children, that's what we're all about.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a huge bummer. And I tried some
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: of you know, the adult lunchables, like the really fancy ones.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Not the same. Yeah, I think it's.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Probably the give it a little bit of seasoning.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: So this two thousand and six report from the National
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Research Council, Fluoride in Drinking Water is what it's called,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: appropriately enough, This is kind of a basis or one
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: of the foundational documents for people who have arguments against
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: fluoride and water, but not conspiracy theory arguments, just a
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: suggestion that, hey, maybe science has changed on fluoride and
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: drinking water and we should look into it. In this report,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: it doesn't directly say fluoride levels in drinking water cause
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: developmental problems in the womb, but it also doesn't not
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: say it it more than anything, says yeah, it's possible,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: and we should look into it more. Which I don't
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: know why anyone would object to looking into it more
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: if there is science out there that says, yeah, it
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: could be bad. And this isn't the only report that
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: has suggested this.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I like to imagine there's still one guy out there
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: who's like lead is a safe and effective way to
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: make food heavier and more filling.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: There's got to be there's got to be like advocates
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: for lead.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: I think I'm more concerned about microplastic spain in the
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: water than florid.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably a bigger threat, for sure.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I feel like I have room to care about both.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: It doesn't cost an extra to care about both.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: That can hold space for fluoride.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not doing shit about either one, so it's
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: not extra work.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I'm moving my kids in the fluoride state. Their third
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: eyes are going to be unmolested.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And so at the end of this report that
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: came out in two thousand and six, they do recommend
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: that the EPA lower the acceptable level of fluoride in
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: drinking water, and the EPA declined to do that. There
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: have been other government entities that have actually lowered their
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: suggested levels of fluoride and drinking water based on these
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: various reports.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: So just like of their own volition, Yeah, that's nice.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Somebody cares.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it's it's possible, and I don't
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: think there's been like a noticeable impact on people not
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: having fluoride in their drinking water.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like there's like everyone in West Covina's
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: teeth they're falling the fuck out of their heads.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: But they're also not smarter.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: So there was actually an issue with fluoride that caused
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the levels to be reduced in that. One of the
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: things that can actually cause which this is ironic, is
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: like pitting and yellowing of the teeth and the enamel
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: in the teeth.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I do know of that.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: There was a girl that I was like good friends
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: with in fifth grade that she had like yellow lines
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: deep into her teeth from the dentist putting too much
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: fluoride on it. Oh, that's the dentist's fault, not the Wow.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: What a shitty thing to have in fifth grade. Yeah,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: when everyone is so understanding.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Nice floride doesn't kill people, denis kill people exactly. I
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: would actually buy that, given you.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Know, I think this is the lazy ass dentists just
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: trying to get trying to fucking have the National water
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Supply pick up the slack for their laziness. They just
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: don't want to send those postcards in the mail every
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: year on your birthday, they'll remind you to come in.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: It does also kind of absolve the government of responsibility
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: when it comes to poor kids and poor people in
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: their access to dental healthcare.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can be like, hey, we put the floride, come.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: On floride in the water. They're fucking fine.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: What more do you wind?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I assume I've been drinking fluoride in my water, and
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I've had plenty of cavities over the years.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Now each your honey bunches of lead.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: The thing that has the anti fluoride crowd most up
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: in arms now is in August twenty twenty four report
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: from the US National Toxicology Program. This is an actual
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: federal agency operating not during the Trump administration, and their
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: report found quote with moderate confidence end quote, that there
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: is a link between higher levels of fluoride exposure and
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: lower IQ in kids. The Associated Press talk to a
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: researcher who focuses on fluoride in water named Ashley Mallin
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: at the University of Florida. She said, this report is
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: quote the most rigorously conducted report of its kind end quote.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: I would like to argue though that maybe kids who
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: aren't don't have so much fluoride it's because they're more
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: in like affluent areas where they have water filters and
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: Brita filters that help, you know, reverse osmosis in that.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: So maybe that's why they're not exposed to so much fluoride.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: And because they're in more higher affluent neighborhoods, they have
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: better education systems in play.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: You know, at least I've never seen a brit of
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: filter in a bad neighborhood. You're right, that's never been
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: a priority, right exactly.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I guess my pushback to that would be, how do
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: you know they didn't take that into account?
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Well, how do you know that they did.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying, like, these are fucking scientists, Like
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: they're not podcasters, Like.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well who are they working for? We just talked
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: that scientists can be easily influenced.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they sure can be, but sometimes they're not. Also, Like,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not bullshit. Modern scientists can be influenced.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: My favorite example of it that I cite all the
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: fucking time, there is a report that claims vaping nicotine
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: juice like vape liquid and cigarettes have the same chemicals
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: in them, and they sure do. But when they say that,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: what they mean is cigarettes and vapes have the same
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: chemicals that force Disneyland to put up a sign that says, hey,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: there's like shit in the air that could give you cancer.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: They're chemicals that are in everything, so of course they're
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: in cigarettes and vape liquid both. What's not in vape
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: liquid is fucking strick nine and all that crazy shit
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: that they are in cigarettes to make them as dangerous
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: as they are.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Well, whether or not they're right, I am stealing the
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: phrase with moderate confidence. With moderate confidence, I'd like to
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: ask you out to dinner sometime.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: But with this vaping report, when kids were getting popcorn
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: lung from not even jewel pods, it was from like
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: bootleg thhc Odds. The New York Times cited that report
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: and said, this study showed that cigarettes and vapes have
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: the same chemicals in them, but they didn't link to it,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: and I thought that was weird. So I went out
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: and found it. And all you have to do is
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: read it to see that they're not talking about what
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: you think of when people say chemicals in cigarettes. And
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: at the bottom there was a financial disclosures section two
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: of the doctors who worked on it were also trying
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: to secure a patent for a smoking cessation device, so
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: they had all the motive in the world to claim
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: vapes have the same chemicals as cigarettes because they want
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you to quit smoking their way.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Isn't smoking and vaping bad enough? What do you have
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: to make vaping words like it already? It's obviously stinks
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: this study.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: There were studies conducted in Canada, China, India, Iran, Pakistan,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: and Mexico that all concluded that drinking water containing more
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: than one point five milligrams of fluoride per leter is
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: consistently associated with lower IQs in kids. I mean, it
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: seems like it's at least worth looking into.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: The phrase with moderate confidence makes me take them more seriously,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: like they're not like they're like that sounds like someone
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: who's actually trying to give you a measured opinion, you know.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: And I also feel like a lot of the pushback
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: to this just boils down to, well, it's Republicans saying it.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I don't want to agree with what Republicans are saying,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: and like that's not science.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: That's not Yeah, that's the opposite of science.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: That's like fundamentalism.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: That's the idea, that's like ideological racism. Like my idea
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: is was born better than your idea?
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit, And like I don't I don't know.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: fucking care, So I don't know.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: It just doesn't care about the children.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I don't care about fluoride and water like not remotely.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but before wasn't the lower IQ. It's only like
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: a point or two.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but still if that's your argument for keeping it,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: that's a terrible argument.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Well, maybe the kid was just having a bad day
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: and then you should test them again.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: It seems like there've been a lot of tests. That's
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: what this report is saying, is that there's been tests
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: conducted all around the world.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're also doing it like India and Pakistan.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, India one of the only other countries with a
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: fucking space program. Yeah, those dollars world's biggest democracy. What
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: a fucking bunch of idiots they are. No, I don't
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: trust science from science from India.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying they have a wider pool of
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: like things that I don't know, things that can go wrong.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Do you work for the fluoride industry. I do.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Actually, that's why I have great toe. That's all the
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: fluoride money. I actually have a reverse osmosis water filter,
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: so I don't even drink that shit.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: We need a smiling woman to sell this to the
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: podcast crowd.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: It's actually in bottled water too. I didn't realize that
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: a lot of bottled water.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was how I was protecting my pineal gland.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Shit.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: And I remember growing up there was water that would
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: I would like advertise I had fluoride in it.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I also don't know that water filters remove it, even.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: That reverse osmosis one, because those get rid of the microplastics.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Well, I guess I'm going to be out my front
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: lawn boiling water outside my apartment like a fucking pioneer.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: What are you doing, con Man? No, just trying to
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: be a free thinker. Yeah, I don't know.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I found researching this actually pretty interesting because all I'd
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: ever heard is like communist plot and shit. But I
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: don't know. If there's a possibility that it's not good,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: then I don't see the point in advocating for it
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: or sticking with it. Science changes.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: I was about to say what did we come up
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: within the forties that were still doing besides nuclear bombs?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and even that we only just did two. Yeah, shit,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: that was intense.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: For now, Yeah, for now.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: And yeah, Connor, you added the pineal gland at the end.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: This is Connor's little uh dreadlock petually Joe Rogan five
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: years ago alternative archaeology theory. And I only bring it
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: up because it is weird, like you, like you look
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: at this shit. It is weird, Like you know that
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Egyptian eye that you've seen a million times, the cool
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: looking eye with the eyebrow and the little curly cue
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: that comes out of the bottom. There is a gland
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: in the human brain called the pineal gland that looks
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: exactly like this. Ie are very very very similar to
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: this eye. And weirdly enough, it is a sort of
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: like a linzed trap for fluoride. It absorbs fluoride. It's
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: star under the calcium in the gland. And the spiritual
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: New Age conspiracy people will tell you that the fluoride
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: in the water is there to calcify your pineal gland,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: harden it so that you can't use your spiritual sight,
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: you can't use your third eye inside your brain. So
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: if you want to really stay woke, you only drink
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: pussy juice like me. That's that's the only liquid that's
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: pure and clean.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: So that must be why the pineal gland is at
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: the center of so many conspiracies, because it does it
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: is shaped like exactly like that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I yeah, I think that. I think that's got a
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: lot to do with it.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: And that's why democrats like pickle them and eat them
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: out of children's brains.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Well, that's where the adrenochrome is stored at them to
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: bring it full circle.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: And if I'm not mistaken, they do that to stay young,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: like Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein and shit.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Who are looking great. Yeah, ladies, Sleigh, welcome to the Resistance.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know. I guess.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm more on the fence about this than
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I used to be. But I've also never had strong
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: feelings either way about fluoride.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Longtime listeners of the show will know that I believe
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: whatever is the most fun and amusing to me, and
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: I like to believe they're trying to take my ancient
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Egyptian superpowers away. So that's where I'm at I mean
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: a last, of course, a shill for big fluoride.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: I still think it's fine.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: I think it's just a lot of hoopla, and there's
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: better things to be researching, like cancer.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: All right, Okay, that's a pretty good one. Yeah, I
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: think you forgot about cancer.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: It would be crazy if just no one's looking into
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: cancer right now.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: Well, didn't they defend the cancer research?
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: No, I think all the scientists are trying to come
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: up with a new sort of energy drink that makes
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: you horny.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: No, but for real, they pulled funding for cancer research,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: like this week or last week.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, that doesn't sound like the Trump administration.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Donald J. Trump.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe cancer's not real. Did you ever think about that?
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: That's a liberal.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, his name's Barren, not Karen. You know he doesn't care.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: So yeah, the floride in the drinking water, I don't know.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Keep it ready, you know, a couple of IQ points.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if it's just a couple of IQ points.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: I'd rather have a few IQ points knocked off than
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: have bad fucking teeth, I'll tell you that.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, bad teeth is pretty rough.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: And drinking water alone will keep you from having bad teeth.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: We all know that.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Homeless people have great teeth.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that's our episode. Do we have
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: any final thoughts on fluoride in drinking water or r
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: FK Junior's terrible goddamn voice.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Boil your water, pray to the sun God raw, make
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: your sacrifices the Horus, and give thanks because a new
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: day is coming in America.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Does anyone e drank boiled water?
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: No, it is wretched. It tastes so bad.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Oh that's weird.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: I don't are supposed to taste super clean and pure,
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: you would think, but it doesn't. Does it taste like
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: a campfire?
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: No, it just I don't know. It just tastes gross.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: It's got a weird aftertaste.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: You're drinking it while it's boiling.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that might have been not what.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: You're supposed to do to toughen himself up. Like taxi driver,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: I drink boiling water.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: I think that we should be more concerned about microplastics
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: being in the water than fluoride at this point.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I also kind of feel like we should just
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: be concerned about anything that's in our water. I don't
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: get why it has to be a one or the
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: other thing? Why not worry about fluoride in our water?
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: And it seems like there is science that suggests it's
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: not providing the same benefit science thought it was going
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: to when they started put it in drinking water.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: And mustn't it be cheaper to take it out? Like
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: it must cost something to put it in, you know,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: like does no one want to save money?
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: It seems like from that forties thing that it's cheaper
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: to leave it in than filter it out.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: What do you mean the corporate polluter theory?
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: There was fluoride in the water, so instead of just
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: getting rid of it, they enlistened the help of scientists
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: to say that no, it's fine.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: So let's just leave it in there.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, So that wouldn't it cost money to filter
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: it out than just leave it in there?
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: Where was the fluoride coming from?
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Is it just a runoff?
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a runoff chemical that enters water that way also,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: which could also be justification for not adding more of
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: it to the water, I would think, because it does
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: cause problems in higher doses, like they had to cut
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: the amount because of cosmetic problems that it was causing.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: So it's not like there's nothing to the idea that
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: fluoride might be harmful.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Or that they can't manipulate it.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like they just have an acceptable amount
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: in it and they're like it's fine.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Was altered anymore?
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: If this was pissed, would we even be talking about it.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: That's not really what that theory is or what the
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: thinking behind it was. It wasn't the government going, oh,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: it's fine to have that much fluoride in the water.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: It was them knowing they were going to get sued
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: or letting all of this fluoride get into the water,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: so they manipulated scientists to say fluoride was safe in
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: water so then they could explain why it was there.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: There was no point where the government was like, yeah,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: it's fine, like fluoride's fine, we should just keep it there.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Like if that theory is correct, that's not what the
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: government was getting at. They weren't getting at They just
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: didn't want to get sued or it being there, which
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That doesn't sound like the American government
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: at all. So, Yeah, drink more water, everybody, no matter what,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: even if there's fluoride in it. It's so good for you.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: It's good to be hydrated. It's good for your skin. Yeah,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: it's good for everything.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Get compliments on my skin all the time. And that's
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: not a joke.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Adam is dewey. He's got a dewey complexion. It's it's
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: it's enviable.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I drink an obscene amount of water.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: That's why he's currently holding up a sort of a
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: medieval flagon.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: This is a forty ounce Swell water bottle. I cannot
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: recommend swell enough. It will keep your water fucking cold
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: for like twenty four hours, and it doesn't need that you.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Know better than a Stanley mug.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Uh Yeah. And also you're not gonna get like trampled
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: by a group of tweens if you show up at
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: the store on the wrong Stanley mug. Drop day. I
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: told Connor, I've been fucking fiending to get my hands
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: on an Olivia Rodrigo Stanley mug. That's right, because those
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: if you can get one before they sell out, you
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: can flip that bitch on eBay for like five times
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: what you've paid for.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: So this is not like your affinity for Mariah Carrey albums.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Like Adam just like everyone's realizing as a be in
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: his body about some diva artifact that he must have,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: like it's a wax bust of Aretha Franklin.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I do. I fuck with the music
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: of Olivia Rodrigo. But no, I'm not trying to walk
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: around with a lavender Stanley mug.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: I was just this is a capitalist pursuit.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so. Hey, that's our episode, Alise Connor, thank
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: you both for doing the pod. What do we have
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: to plug before we get out of here?
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Patreon dot com, slash on pops. Uh, you don't pod
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: dot supercast dot com. Go there and get bonus episodes
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: and ship. Elise, what do you got to plug?
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: You should all buy Ripple. It's a cryptocurrency. Buy it.
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: Pump that ship so I can sell it.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: I think you're misgendering it. I think it's called x RP.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: No, it's called Ripple too.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: Just a yeah, I'm sorry, Connor, do you I just.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Haven't man blamed anything to anyone in a while.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, Yeah, I hate you all.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Right, Connor. Aside from man explaining, what do you want
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: to plug?
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Buy my water filtration system, drink like a pharaoh, free
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: yourself from mental prison, emancipate yourself from mental slavery. Knowing
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: but yourself can free your mind. That was King Tutt
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: who said that. Listen to The Mean Boys podcast hilarious
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: cavalcade of comedy.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get the fuck out of here. Alis
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: say goodbye bye, Honor, say goodbye, goodbye bye everybody. We
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: love you.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Thea innam