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LOST Missing Pieces · Sass N Sips

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  SPEAKER_00: So what are we doing now?
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so we're gonna do missing pieces now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, for the reason that we'll do the recap.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, let's do the missing pieces because then the recap we can include those.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: Hi, and welcome to this bonus episode of Sass and Sips.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: Every episode, Agnes and I will discuss and dissect another episode of Lost in Order.
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  SPEAKER_01: We are your hosts.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm Lisa.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm Agnes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we do this while we drink.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today's today's episode is actually going to focus on the web webisodes missing pieces.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I have a nice cold Stella.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: What are you drinking?
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm keeping it classy with Malibu and Papa juice.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: Because I feel like that this is sweet and tangy and it's so thirst quenching.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then next thing your face is meeting the floor.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's awesome.
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  unknown: Perfect.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look what I say.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna swap out the format a little today.
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  SPEAKER_01: So Agnes is gonna take charge.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, baby.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no! I saw so and we got our magic words again.
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  SPEAKER_01: Last time nobody said the words.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna try again.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this time, though, we're gonna try to make each other say it.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna attempt to fuck with each other.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: More so than normal.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_01: Hey everyone, Lisa here.
• 1:44
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• 1:50
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  SPEAKER_00: So I thought it was so cute, the little webisodes they did.
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  SPEAKER_01: Me too.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the first time that I've watched them.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've never seen them before.
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  SPEAKER_01: I didn't even know they existed before this podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, if they did the whole series like this, I would have watched it a long time ago.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_01: So my understanding is that because there was a long time between the end of season three and the beginning of season four.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because the right of strike.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: And so that they put these out like one every week or something like that as a means to keep the audience, you know, entertained.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't forget about me.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so the first one was called The Watch.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: And wasn't there a show called The Watch?
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyhow.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: So it takes place um right before, like let's say the day of the day before um Jack's wedding to Sarah.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: And he's been his father comes to the beach and they have a little chit-chat, and he gives him a watch.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: He said, My father gave you this watch when I got married to your mother.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: This part was so funny to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna tell you at the end, I'm gonna tell you why.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: And um he said, I want you to remember that you're making the biggest mistake of your life.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Oh fuck.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: So when Jack asked his father, well, what are you trying to tell me?
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, Well, I'm saying that unlike me, you're doing the right thing.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, Whoa, he complimented Sarah and insulted his mother at the same time, the same sentence.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: I I thought it was just me who understood it like that.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: No, like and then Jack was like, Thanks, Dad.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what did you not just like from what I've gathered, his mother's a pretty decent woman?
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: I I would think so.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we don't see much of her, but I just I was like, okay.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: He said that he never wore the watch because of it, because it was an insult for him, but he wants the I think going until he wants the watch to be something positive.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, this is my chance of this making this watch something positive.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_00: And Jack wore it, and then like the first episode, we see him with the watch, watch, and but the funny thing is like he actually insulted his mother and he's like gee, thanks, Dad.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what I can't we want, I rewound it like a couple times to make sure I got that.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Yeah, no, you're an asshole.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_00: I thought he was gonna say, like, like me, you made the right decision.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, right, he's like, like me, like unlike me, you make the right decision.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Oh, damn.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so side side note, right?
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: A little, a little something funny.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_01: When Alex and I got married, we eloped.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: We went to Vegas.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't tell anyone we went to Vegas, and we came back married.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_01: And then we decided that we, I mean, we had been together for so many years, and we were just like, fuck it.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: And then we decided to plan a big wedding for the next year.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: So when we got back, we we it was important to us to tell our families in person.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't want to call on the phone and be like, hey, so by the way, so I went up to see my dad and my grandmother.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember telling my dad, and and he's like, Okay, well, you know, we have to go tell Welly.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's that's what I called my grandmother.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was like in Spanish, um, Abuela is grandmother, but I don't know, I guess from when we were little and we couldn't say it, so it was always Welly.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's cute.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, so um I remember going and sitting down with her, and me and Alex are telling her, and she just she was so pissed off.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: And she was like, How could you do that to your mother?
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: Now, mind you, my my parents are divorced, they've been divorced for so many years, and she was and my father's sitting right there, and she's just like, How could you do that to your mother?
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: And my father's like, mommy, it's okay, you know.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_01: And she's just like, Your mother is supposed to be at your wedding.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_01: How could you guys elope?
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: And we were like, but you know, we're we're gonna have we're gonna have a church wedding, and and and my father's like, listen, I did it the right way.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: I ended up divorced, right?
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they're on to something, you know.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I just remember she was so pissed, she didn't even want to hear it from him.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_01: She was just like, she was so mad.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: But that's I think of it not to tell anybody, no one knows, but you and Alex, and then they're like, Your wedding day, this too, like they don't have to know.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's why we went to Vegas and did it because but why bother?
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think I think for the most part, people need to mind their business with other people's lives.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: Stay out my uterus, stay out my wallet.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my household.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's funny though.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have any marriage stories, and I've been engaged one twice, and yeah, this doesn't work out for me.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: Probably better off.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: I yeah, actually, I think so.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe one day I'll have a divorce story to tell.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: I've had I just look at like this, like I look at the horror stories, I'm like, maybe it's a good thing nobody wants me.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I think I got I think I got the better end of this dick.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think I got so the second episode um was The Adventures of Hurley and Frogart.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: And the irony in this one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh Hurley takes a wine from Rose at um Bernard's tent.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: Neil Froegert.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: Lord.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: So Frogart, he's trying to hit it with Libby.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: He has his own little plans to get with Libby.
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  SPEAKER_00: But here's Hurley just taking his time, doing he thinks he thinks Hurley's just like I'm like, shoot your shot, move on so the rest of us get in get in play.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_00: By the way, I got a date with her.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm on my way to her right now.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: Budaka.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, yeah, Hurley, tell him off.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_00: The irony in this shit is that Fogart looks like he got stepped on by a Titan and left there to like live for the rest of his life looking like a stomped-out bug.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, you see, right?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: I thought you were gonna say the irony is that while they're arguing over who gets to date Libby, Libby is getting shot by Michael.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: We did that too.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's like it started out so well, and then you realize what day it is, and you're like, oh no, oh my god, no.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't removed that.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, well, yes, there was that.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: But I but Froger was just real cocky in his shit, and dude, oh just wait till you see him again, just wait.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so you're gonna you're gonna like it.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you that.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: If I if I'm remembering correctly, you're gonna like it when you see him again.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, interesting.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: It was I I it was cute though.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_01: No, it was a dog.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: It was cute to see Hurley winning.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was totally winning.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he I mean, she was being shy, but but for the moment he was like he was winning, and I like that.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: It was a feel-good moment for him.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: Next episode, the next episode was um King of the Castle.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: Jack and um bit Benry.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: Benry.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: Benry was chilling in the wheelchair while he's still like, and um, I thought this is funny seeing now that looking back on it.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_00: So they talk about him getting off the island.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um Jack asks, you know, of course, Ben and his supernatural ways of speaking was like, it's up to the island to decide.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: He says, So it's up to the island to sink the sub, too.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yes, yes, it will be.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, because Locke is the island's little bitch.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: So it's always the island, it's never no one's fault.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then he goes, You know, you leave, you don't want to come back.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: Jack's like, never, never that's nothing about James Bond, never say never.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: So, I've learned never to say never, and then what does he say?
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: Something like, and and if you ever do, I hope you remember this conversation.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: Some sh yeah, they're playing chess, right?
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: Which go remember last time that we were talking about through the looking glass and Allison wonderful.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: Everything's like chess, like yeah, games of manipulation, yes, yes, and and then at the end, Jack thinks it it I know how to play chess.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not I'm not a great player, I do know how to play.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it looks like Jack was thinking that he was winning, and Ben just comes in and he's like, got you, and it's like that's what he did with the sub.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's never all the fucking time.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: He's been he's a master manipulator, and you gotta respect his skills.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: Who is he a master manipulator of, though?
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying he gets people to do what except for who who does he get to do besides Jack.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, um, I mean, I mean Locke.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, what else is there?
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone sees through him.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, to be to be fair, everyone's tired of his like Juliet's tired of his shit, but three years later.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, to be fair, I'm sure he had a lot of people, and then Mikhail is still killing for him after he lied about like you know, so to be fair, he still has these people following him.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: He needs to have some kind of the something unless Richard is making them follow him.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think Richard is really in charge?
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: Richard hasn't aged in 40 years, which is like yeah, he's he's he's true.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like Richard is a badass.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think that Richard is really the man behind the curtain?
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: He's the man behind the curtain.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: If Richard is really in charge, who is he in charge of?
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: He um oh you ready?
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: You ready?
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: He guards and manipulates life between the parallel universes.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay I knew that was gonna piss you off.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: Come on, you knew that was to come eventually.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: Fine.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: All right, the deal.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: I thought you were doing like that uh the evil where's the cat?
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: He actually uh on in one of his beds sleeping.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well, one of the cats in one of his the beds sleeping.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um this is the point where Juliet approaches Michael.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: Do you remember Michael?
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I remember what Michael, Walt's dad.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: Remember Michael?
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: Walt that's what he's best known for.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_01: Screaming.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Walt, yeah, that too.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um in this part, Juliet is when was the last time that we saw Michael when he sailed away, wasn't it?
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: When he sailed away from what?
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: From the island, isn't it the last time we saw Michael?
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's not.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: Did I miss something?
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, yeah, I missed something.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, you didn't, you really didn't.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: You really no, no, but talk okay.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: But this this webisode talk is it ties into the last time we saw him.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: I know, but you're gonna be fucked up right now.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, I didn't, I I really you didn't miss anything.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so um she's worried about Juliet's worried about Walt because of his called specialness, and the time this is what's helped, this is when they work out the deal that they talked about.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I know I assumed it was Ben had his conversation with Michael, like I just assumed.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I guess Ben had to know, but Juliet Juliet was the negotiator of this deal.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: In in season two, we never saw Juliet.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe excuse me, maybe Ben like in in in in Lost World, Ben maybe put her up to it because she is less threatened.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, less she's not known to be an other.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: However, Ben was was probably already captured by Ben.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's when he was Henry.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and so Michael is still tied up in the tent, and he wanted the boat, and that's when they were like, Yeah, we'll get you the boat.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: Right, okay, and he would get the get you had to go get Benry.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: And now we also know that they had the cameras where they can watch the hatch, the swan.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: So they knew exactly where he was and what was going on, yeah.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: And which was actually, to be honest with you, was already set up, like he got captured intentionally.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm like right, interesting, interesting.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: So that's the last time we saw Michael sailing on the boat.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: The way you say that makes me really doubt my memory.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's it's you were right, you're right.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: Is it is it really oh my god, I don't feel I don't I just want to I want to go home now.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: The last time we saw Michael was in the season two finale.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: What happened in you remember what happened in the season two finale at the same time that Michael is gonna be the hatch was being blown away, the hatch, right?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um Locke blew up the hatch, right?
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: Desmond tried to save it, right?
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: Right, but and Michael and Walt were given the boat, right?
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: But do you remember why?
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't remember.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: I remember he got the boat for turning in his friends.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: Remember the hit right, yeah.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: So he made the list, and and he had to have Sawyer, Kate, Jack, and Hurley, Jack and Hurley, but you only wanted Hurley so they can go back and send the message, like give them back the message, right?
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: And that's how they got captured, right?
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I thought it was leading to something else.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently not.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like they're like ingraining her, I feel like she's her character is gonna, I think her characters, and maybe you feel like her character is is is becoming integral, even more so in the future.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: So they try to like really get her foundation storyline onto the lot of Michael episodes too, though.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I was wondering like is Michael kind of come back, like what's going on with Michael?
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like, why are you sorry so much of Michael?
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: Not just once, like an I mean like I an Ethan might pop up once in the blue moon, but there's a lot of Michaels, so I feel like Michael's coming back.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I I know I was gonna I was gonna save this for the end, but I was thinking also about why there's so many Michaels, and I know the reason.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I really do know the reason.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: Because you saw it, hello.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: But that was what I was thinking before I logically was like, oh, wait a minute.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: But is it because one he's coming back, or two, is because he literally sailed the fuck away and we were like, but what happened to Michael?
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: Well, so is it like what do we really know what happened to him?
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: Do we really care about the like he's already gone off the show?
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: Or is it because he just needed to get paid for a day's work?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe that.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna say, I don't think anyone at this point needs to know the details of the deal and the details of Walt right now with Michael because not this many episodes, maybe one, but I don't think we needed all these episodes with him in it because he's already gone off the show.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think there's a purpose to it.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's what that's my thought process.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Juliet and Operation.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: And who let who let Michael go?
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you don't remember that far back?
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Wasn't well Ben was back.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: Wasn't he back by then?
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: So didn't Ben go and gave him the correct gave him the correct the compass directions.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: So Operation Sleeper, you were gonna say?
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta be all the way fucked up, Lisa, because I don't I'm not trusting anything I'm thinking or remembering.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm telling Jamar on you.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: You you're not doing anything wrong.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: Just go.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: You're just confusing me.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: I know, I'm sorry.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm telling Jamar on you.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: Do it.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: This is when this is when Juliet tells um Jack that she's a mole.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: This is when she tells, like, you know, maybe Locke might have blew it up, but did he really was it really him that blew it up?
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think was the point of her telling him?
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like, do you think that she told him because she really believes that, or because she is trying to like fuck with his head?
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: Both.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: I think both.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: I really think she is, she's definitely been I say for lack of term, uh, Richard.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: Ben or Richard?
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Richard Ben.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: Rich Ben.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, whoever is the leader.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: Richard.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: Richard, bitchard.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, as far as manipulating people, she is a tie, uh a really close number two.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna say Benny Richard is one person because I think you know, one thing.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: Richard, bitchard, yeah, bitchard, absolutely.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I I don't like her, I don't trust her.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I don't think she says malicious attint, but she doesn't have good intents either.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not you have this way about you that makes me doubt everything I'm saying.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: You're really good at this.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: You're very good.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: You're a good you're a good mindfucker.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: Rule 23, I kind of found it all kind of fucker.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: No, let me stop.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Rumor has it.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: There's like what rumors?
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: The rumors are all true.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: No, let me stop.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: In my case.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, um, that's fine with that.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's another podcast.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um dark, assassin sips after dark.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: Coming soon.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: See um mind fuck near you.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Woo! Room 23.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, drink more.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: Drink more, go for it.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: Walt got everyone all the way fucked up in this.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: one so you see the you hear alarms going off and people running around like they're running running lines Godzilla's coming Godzilla who's who's running around doing that all the others finally get you to say i'll drink i'm still trying to get you to say the word um every time i'm trying anyway okay so the others are running around like godzilla's coming uh and we don't see wolf like i don't think that they could show wolf because waltz is like a grown man by give me the boy i am the boy boy fuck you talking about i'm a man i'm a man um what you talking about willis i'm a man so julia's like um no one's going in there like yeah no no not happening so if not sorry and then all of a sudden she takes him uh sorry uh oh she takes him out to know the door and obviously the fucking bird's dead i'm like oh that's right the birds once you say the birds you're like yep it's waltz waltz but i i don't remember what episode but that's what they were saying something like what they they got more than they bargained for with walt i yeah right now that's what it was yeah what the fuck so and then i after i saw this i'm like um they weren't doing michael a favor by letting them go they're like yo this nigga gotta go this nigga gotta go it was their own favor so i think juliet's um juliet's deal with michael so magnanimous of her she got back benry and she got rid of the psycho boy so um it was so like oh yeah you know you know how like they say um like if somebody kidnapped you they pay to return you yeah that's literally what happened that's exactly what happened like oh uh uh we kidnapped this boy we don't want him we don't want we don't want him on the island anywhere near us give you a boat if you just take him the fuck away go um I have a feeling that that would be me like um do the meme with the the dog between the car seat like that and like so what are you doing to that yeah that's me um unless I'm PMSing because I'm at the age now where the kind of pre-menopausal thing going on so I'm homicidal once a month.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's not a great time oh my god everyone hates I hate me it's really bad and I'm like fuck it this is part of my life now suck it up but um so yeah so if I get kidnapped during that time I would probably be able to just take out all my kidnappers and then run the organization that kidnapped me you'd be like Said on those motherfuckers like and said as I was saying new boss in town bitches look at him um I like when you read I have more time to drink yeah I don't know we have to change plans a little bit three seasons in and you do one episode yeah better not hear you complain it was your idea so it was my idea I wanted to drink while you read and I am doing it I'm so happy for no all joking aside good plan well you know whenever we swap episodes um shows that yes I know okay and and and I'll I'll take I'll do the reading if you want if it's as far as based on how this show is going it's gonna take forever see maybe it we're we're good come on okay considering that this podcast has been out we've been doing this for a year and a half we're halfway done plus when Axel was born and I moved we literally took like what a four month break about four yeah so that's not that bad that's really not that bad and and then also like now we're doing the summer we're doing every other week we're not we're not that bad.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: I suppose I just think it the show and I it's just that you hate the show with everything you have and so every episode is like torture.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: So when I pick my show I want to pick a show that you haven't watched but you actually wanted to watch or you'd be into watching because I will watch anything that you tell me to okay stop playing big don't be a bigger person here okay stop it well I'm just saying like not a fair is fair whatever show you really want to watch but I want you to watch I want you to watch I I want to like it I'm just saying that if I don't I'll suck it up and and I'll hate it and every week just just for you.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: You make the steam and snipe comment about it every week too sure no problem promise yay promise yay unless you love it and then you have it like oh hell queen tv Agnes Queen of TV yes yes yes oh hell we I think we should pick an episode that Jamar a show that Jamal oh have you ever watched imposters no you told me this okay so Jamar watches it Jamar just did a binge on it I like it I haven't been to yet but I was going to so I think the next one should be to be imposters because guess what we can have Jamar back again I think he's like the third he he's like that third member of this group he's great he really is so the next webisode on our list is Austin Crafts and I didn't know that's how they spelled his name arts A-R-Z they kept like saying it and he's like it's not that hard like when they kept saying it wrong he's like it's arsed and in like the it's weird first season or whatever the hell it was yeah yeah I remember that so I could I still say ars but but it looks like like a drug name like a prescription drug I'm drinking as I'm reading is um watching Shannon and Boone.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: Do we remember Shannon and Boone?
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so sad Shannon was really growing up didn't I tell you she's gonna come into her own on some level and she really did and then they killed her I'm like fuck you um Anna Lucia killed her that's okay because then Michael killed Anna Lucia yeah that was a very dead season Michael killed Debbie but he was just killed for the baby to murderer um damn from zero to a hundred real quick no I'm just kidding himself so um my dad looks like a bird so no I'm just kidding so Jen and Jen is um with son they're doing whatever they're doing they're watching Shannon boom and Jen is like oh they're lovers and um son was like oh no they're brothers and sisters and this is when she was only speaking Corinth before we even knew she was speaking and he goes well how do you know she goes oh I I could just tell you I was like oops thank you man for being a little dense because he's like oh okay so artist is having a fucking conviction fit about moving to the caves he's like we can't and we gotta do this and the whole world's gonna come I was like oh thank god they killed him another season something was gonna lay eggs in the ear he was going crazy you froze oh uh oh okay start again I mean they'll start again but like say that sentence again um he thinks Jack is Nazi cuckoo because he's even chasing he chasing after his father and I'm like well he kind of did so I guess you know Ars all right so like in Scottish accent dialect ass is Ars A R S E.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like his name is kind of like a plague on ass oh I never thought of that I like that ars yeah well I'm my brain's working because I'm drinking that that must be what it is drunk.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: Any thoughts on um Ars and crass ars and crass I'm calling Ars for now right now Ars is just crazy like you know that when he shows up you're gonna get a laugh at least he was kind of comical and I felt bad when it killed him but my you know my my temperament is not like it used to be when I was younger um what's the next one?
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh buried secrets buried secrets I was like okay I was like okay interesting but I don't know why what the point of it was if it makes sense I could have I could have not watched I couldn't live without that one.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah so like my take is like Sun is burying her California driver's license that apparently was going to be like her new identity right and she's like burying it to hide it Michael finds her and then he's like here like he drops them take it back motherfucker I just buried that I like bury this shit but then she tells him about like Jin and like they have this moment where they almost kiss but then they get interrupted by Vincent and it's like uh okay I'm glad that moment was interrupted because I think I don't like him for anybody at this point.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_01: And um but I think there was so much speculation around them and what their relationship was in the first season that I think that that was the only purpose of that that they shared a moment but nothing happened so like all is well but that's how come they always felt awkward around each other.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what reason that makes sense it just to and also just to bring Michael that Michael has to come back.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_00: There's just too many episodes of Michael in it.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: So he's I think he's part of the parallel universe for some reason I don't like Michael's back but he's not Michael Michael he's Michael never mind okay maybe he's Jack I don't know ha ha ha maybe michael is in the coffin maybe but would Jack have cried over that like would Jack have been so fucked up over it I don't think so maybe it's Walt I think I think it's somebody that they got saved like that was rescued with them maybe that's how they really got rid of him they put Walt in the coffin because he's too grown and then Michael comes back because it's his son and so uh I don't know okay maybe I'm just making shit up yes take your drink because that makes me make more sense fuck you in this rabbit hole I don't think anything can make that okay topical depression I feel so but I feel sorry for ours in this one I'm sorry that I call you ours I'm gonna call him ours for now until the end of time so he's doing his little butt catching thing and then I had a flash a mental flashback of um Pablo and Pablo and Nicole Nikki and Paolo Nikki what I say Pablo and Nicole all right Sawyer who the fuck are you the fuck are you people?
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um Nikki and Paolo I just really did I already fucked that up who the fuck is Pablo so he's doing his little bug catching thing and Michael's like okay so when we leave the raft so what are we gonna do he's like yeah moffo I lied I was just making up shit I want to go home Michael's face when he's telling him the story how he of what happened with this online girl Michael's like mofo we all got problems like the fuck my son's mother died and left like you know like they all have fucking problems and yours was just stupid yeah he he says like that he spent all his money flying to Australia for some woman yeah and he when he did his friend's picture dude you did it to yourself homie um anyway yeah and then the lady was like she went to the bathroom but then she never came back I've actually been on dates where I considered doing that but there was okay okay I remember this particular date and it wasn't a bad date but it wasn't the best date either and I went to the bathroom like I gotta get the fuck out of here like and I said there's only one way out they're gonna see me fuck it I'll just I'll just stay I'll just that was a long time ago me and him are still friends to this day so like oh I'm glad I didn't leave but all my male friends would be like wait was it me but I tell you figure out now if they ask if so if the person asks was that I'm like yeah I'm like yeah so I don't know if that makes me a bad you can tell me who after maybe maybe not I deserve that uh fine uh be like that Jack me ethan ethan Jack Ethan in his Wisconsin sweatshirt yeah that's kind of the reason I didn't like him so much himself so yeah Ethan found a whole bag of medicine woohoo he just found it in the jungle did you think that he found it or do you think that like he had it or something because I kind of assumed that he had it I think it um and like he like you like you did like quote unquote found it it was a whole bag of different medicines like it wasn't like so convenient right it wasn't like a passenger would have some kind of meds another passenger has some kind of meds so if someone had like oh we put everyone's meds in one bag after a course of like a week or two yes that makes sense yeah that's true this wasn't I didn't get that vibe I got it it was yeah anyhow Ethan says what happened with his wife so we think his wife his child is one of the nine women was it nine so I'm like oh so Ethan got a sob story yeah sob story join the club next my wife died in childbirth I'm gonna kidnap this other pregnant woman um the next one I felt this to my bones this is a good one Jen has a temper tantrum I get it you're so frustrated with every fucking like listen dude kept his like his growing up under control like he kept that bottled in his fucking gangster father in law is fucking crashing a fucking island he had it he fucking had it and I get him he misses a ball and he starts cursing out the universe in Korean he's so he's like done with it all he's like he's like even Michael Hurley can be like what the fuck is up with that shit like he's just standing there like uh yeah maybe just let him be I think I think we need to just leave him alone like who invented this stupid game why won't you go with it like he's just he's daddy and I was like baby I feel you same oh man it was a good one it was a really good one it was a fun one like just it was fun no no oh Libby's getting shot at the end and nothing just fun the envelope okay so maybe I'm weird I don't pronounce it in yeah I I always pronounce I think you put a letter in an envelope I think I do it that way too and then when something's surrounding something I pronounce it envelope I think that's right it is right but so that it's envelope and envelope even though it's an envelope I just won't say it's an envelope it's an envelope I don't know why it's correct both of them correct but I just can't say it I don't know why they're like I need an envelope I'm like okay here it's an envelope I'm like I just can't say envelope it's envelope and envelope okay weird right and yet another um let's say Libby another Juliet webisode because they have to make sure her presence is ingrained oh Michael's coming back and she's dying that's who's in the coffin boom no okay um actually that's that's a good guess interesting I feel like that means nothing because it doesn't mean nothing coming from you means nothing um but that makes sense that's why both of them are in this so much and I feel like there's a reason anyway so she burns her muffins I feel like that's some kind of like I feel like that's what's the word I'm looking for this is like the third time we see her burn those damn muffins.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: The same muffins right I feel like the burning the muffins is the word I'm looking for like a sign like a bad omen yeah I feel like it's yeah a sign of what's happening I can't think in about two or three episodes I remember the word and I'm like oh that's the one I was thinking of um I hate when that happens oh god I can't stand it a metaphor is a metaphor I don't know I can't think of yeah maybe it's a metaphor life of the island um and she wants to show an envelope to Amelia and then possibly Amelia Earhart right right the fuck is the envelope about what's in the envelope what is it that was no that was um Ben's tumor okay I couldn't I just wasn't clicking I I don't know I I just feel like this was stupid this is the dumbest one it didn't make sense because what was what was the big secret because he told I think he everyone understood that no one could get cancer on the island I yeah but so it's like once he was operated on everybody saw him in a wheelchair I think before but this happened the envelope thing happened before he was operated on didn't it like oh yeah of course so everyone's like this is the I gotcha like he said no one can get cancer like what the fuck is going on here you know maybe yeah and of course yeah I just feel like that one didn't really have like a purpose a purpose yeah anything unless I missed it I don't know and the last one I couldn't watch the last one I try to reload the thing like several times and it just wouldn't play so I'm reading the thing so I'm reading the thing okay so I'll do it all right and I'm reading I'm like I don't remember this I I why don't I remember this I remember oh yeah it was it I couldn't get it to play okay the last one so it begins the last one oh can I read it okay it's because it's Vincent I think they had Vincent okay the last one is filmed from Vincent's perspective I love it and we see him like running through the jungle and Vincent meets Christian Shepherd and Christian tells him to go find my son and wake him up because he has work to do and then you see Vincent find Jack in the jungle and that is basically the first scene of the pilot episode.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: Right I remember that I was like oh right you know why so because they were in purgatory and odd souls definitely you're gonna take me out like a bull through the head I'm gonna take out this wall with my head you're gonna have me on my knees I like I like that they gave they gave Vincent one from his perspective I would have preferred like two or three from Vincent's perspective actually at least one was nice yeah it was nice I like that it tied it back up to the beginning by the beginning yeah I thought that was cute all in all I liked the missing pieces I did too I don't think that they gave us too much I think they filled in a few gaps and and just kind of gave us like oh look look you know like the warm fuzzies yeah but I'm glad I watched them I'm glad you made me watch it thank you well thank you I think that the best one was um king of the castle the one where Jack and Ben are playing chess okay and and Ben is like that he's he's not gonna stop him from getting off the island but never say never and all that you're you're gonna wish you you don't you don't want to come back yeah I think that that was the best one her only one made me smile even though she was being shot at the time the fact that he shut up I was like yeah and what Moco it's funny because there was 13 of them but we didn't see like I don't think we saw Kate we didn't really see like Charlie or Claire or we saw a lot of people that didn't make a difference anymore right I mean most of it was like Jack Ben Juliet and Michael yeah I feel like there's a reason for that and if there is you're not gonna tell me of course not so that is probably it for this thank you Lisa and thank you listeners for I don't know putting up with my voice oh I love your voice oh baby I listen to your voice every week and then again while I edit oh I don't know how you do it I was actually told I should be a phone sex operator.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah I could see that I don't I could hear that listening to my voice I don't see it at all I was like that at first with my voice maybe I've just gotten used to it I don't know anything else before we wrap this one up I think that's all she wrote honey okay so thank you for being with us for this bonus episode and please stay tuned for our next episode which will be a season three recap and season four look ahead and that will be coming out soon or will it or will it and in the meantime as always please drink responsibly don't drink and drive please consider supporting our show somehow you know how to do it right now just look at the show notes and until next time I'm Lisa and I'm Agnes and we are out of here we out peace out see you later bye