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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Panthers Praise · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, again, the wins and the losses, you've
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: got to flush in this league. You can't look back,
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: good or bad. Teams are too good. So, you know,
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: we just want to go 1-0 this week. So, again,
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: it's a long season. We understand there's going to be
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: ups and downs. We have all the confidence in the
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: world in each other. And, again, we're going to celebrate
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: it today. Tomorrow, when we get back to work, we've
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: got to turn the page and get ready for next week.
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: There you go, Bryce Young. The man is on a heater.
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  Speaker 2: What a start to the season. Three more touchdown passes,
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: eight more passes of 10 yards or more downfield. He
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: was absolutely dealing. And this week, it was TMAC's turn
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: to go over 100 yards. Five catches, 101 for TMAC.
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  Speaker 2: including a ridiculous mossing of CJ Henderson, where it looked
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: like a dad was catching the ball over top of
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  Speaker 2: his toddler. I mean, and by the way, how about
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  Speaker 2: the ball placement on that from Bryce Young? How about
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: the ball placement from Bryce Young on the two touchdown
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  Speaker 2: passes to Waller?
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  Speaker 3: What about the Coker sideline play where he got his
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  Speaker 3: feet down?
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  Speaker 2: What a catch that was. Pretty good ball placement, too,
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  Speaker 2: away from the defender. That was a fun day. That
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  Speaker 2: was a fun freaking day. And it wasn't perfect. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of people are texting in, O-line penalties. Our guy,
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: Fine More Deodorant, who we saw out yesterday, Bone, at
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: Twin Peaks and Concord.
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  Speaker 4: How did he smell? He smelled good. He smelled great.
• 1:48
  Speaker 4: This man's mastered not using deodorant. He smelled better than
• 1:51
  Speaker 4: Mack with deodorant. Probably. Probably.
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  Speaker 2: But he's texting in saying, you guys give Rob Hunt
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: the business. Rob Hunt had three penalties, Bone, in about
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: a quarter and a half to start the game. And
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: Tommy Trumbull had two. And I mean, it was unbelievable,
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  Speaker 2: the penalties on offense, on the offensive line, and the
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  Speaker 2: tight ends, the blocking, the holding. I mean, it was
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: just the pre-snaps. It was ridiculous. But think about what
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  Speaker 2: we're saying here, y'all. They made a lot of mistakes,
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: pass protection. You're going to be shocked by this, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: but Bebop pointed out that pass protection wasn't good.
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  Speaker 4: And Atlanta didn't have their best two edge rushers. But
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  Speaker 4: just think about it, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: We dominated a football game, won it by 31 points
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  Speaker 2: against a team we hate and we love dominating. Let's
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  Speaker 2: celebrate that today and laugh at them. But also, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: you win by 31 where there was a lot of
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  Speaker 2: that stuff to clean up.
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  Speaker 3: Coaches love that. They love that. Oh, to win by 31,
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  Speaker 3: and it wasn't the perfect outing? No, that's a coach's dream.
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  Speaker 3: I just looked it up because I was curious. Bryce Young,
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  Speaker 3: six touchdown passes to the first two games, ties Jake
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  Speaker 3: DeLome for the best two-game start ever in Panther history
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  Speaker 3: for touchdown passes in the first two weeks. Jake ended
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  Speaker 3: up with eight through three weeks, so we'll see if
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  Speaker 3: Bryce can— maybe get two more or three more against
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  Speaker 3: the Browns. Seth from Concord, the penalties cost Chuba about
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  Speaker 3: 50 yards. Yeah, I think 43 in the second half
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  Speaker 3: when I finally started counting.
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  Speaker 4: It's got to be over 50.
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  Speaker 2: Canales said he thinks they lost 60-plus rush yards in general.
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  Speaker 4: So that's got to get cleaned up. There's no doubt
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  Speaker 4: about it.
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  Speaker 3: The commitment to the run, as you brought up a concern,
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  Speaker 3: Jonathan Brooks, Mac, having another groin injury, although he wasn't
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  Speaker 3: used a lot anyway, but Jonathan Brooks being injured already
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  Speaker 3: is another concern. So if we're going to go the
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  Speaker 3: concern route, I do think the running game needs to
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  Speaker 3: have a little more stick-to-itiveness to it for Brennan.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like the.
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  Speaker 2: Concern route is about five pages deep in the Mac
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  Speaker 2: and Bone Gazette today, though.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, it's just, y'all, this is another thing, too, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: It was a bounce-back performance. Like, that's the number one
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  Speaker 2: thing we got to talk about today. is last week
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  Speaker 2: hurt them i guarantee it hurt that defense and for
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  Speaker 2: those boys to come back bone hold them to three
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  Speaker 2: points and to turn and force five turnovers i know
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  Speaker 2: this they scored 10 more points against pittsburgh's defense last
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  Speaker 2: week i know that so like i know we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get the text man atlanta stinks on our offense and
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: they do but it's not a guarantee that a defense
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  Speaker 2: that gives up 59 points bone is going to bounce
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  Speaker 2: back turn it over five times for the opposition and
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  Speaker 2: allow three It's not a guarantee, Bone. They're not going
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  Speaker 2: to allow B. John Robinson to hit the 90-yard total
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  Speaker 2: offense mark. That is not a guarantee. So, like, I
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: get the nitpickers and your life must be miserable, some
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  Speaker 2: of y'all. But I would like to bask in the
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  Speaker 2: good because there's a lot of good. There really is.
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  Speaker 2: And then they get Cleveland next week. Now, Cleveland can
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  Speaker 2: get you. We just saw what happened with Tampa. But
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  Speaker 2: it's another game, Bone, where if you play well defensively,
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  Speaker 2: You got a chance to get off to a two-in-one start.
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  Speaker 2: And that's another thing that needs to be said, too.
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  Speaker 2: T-Time texted in and says Bryce Young is playing like
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  Speaker 2: a top-five quarterback. There's no doubt about it. You read
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  Speaker 2: off all the stats that he's top-five in. It is
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  Speaker 2: ridiculous right now. He is playing so freaking good. And
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  Speaker 2: that's the most important thing in the franchise is how
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  Speaker 2: he plays and is he making a jump. And it
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  Speaker 2: looks like he's making a leap under Brad Idzik right now, Bone.
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  Speaker 4: That right there. is huge, awesome freaking news. It really is.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like everyone around him in terms of the
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  Speaker 3: playmakers also making a leap. It coincides of Coker, Mack. Also,
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  Speaker 3: Coker on the returns yesterday as well. Coker's making a leap.
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: We know that T-Mac— The punt return, oh my God.
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  Speaker 3: We know that T-Mac is where he's projected and what
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  Speaker 3: he's doing.
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  Speaker 4: It's not even a leap. He's just going to keep
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  Speaker 4: getting better and better.
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  Speaker 3: Waller adds— Waller really opens things up for the offense,
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  Speaker 3: especially in the red zone. He should have three touchdowns
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  Speaker 3: already this year. Honestly, he had two yesterday. Then he
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  Speaker 3: had the one that was a a ticky-tack call in
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  Speaker 3: the first game. Waller, I said it when they got him,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised if he pushes for the team lead
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  Speaker 3: in touchdown catches or he gets maybe 10 because he's
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  Speaker 3: just going to be such a threat in the red
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  Speaker 3: zone area. He can do other stuff too, but man,
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  Speaker 3: he has a knack for finding the end zone.
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: Look at Dan Morgan, by the way. Dan Morgan signs
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd. Devin Lloyd goes out there with that ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: game yesterday. with nine tackles, a tackle for loss on
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  Speaker 2: fourth down to get off the field, three passes defense,
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  Speaker 2: including one that was tipped to Okereke for an interception,
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  Speaker 2: three interceptions, one was a pick six, and oh, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, a sack on a blitz and a partridge
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  Speaker 2: in a pear tree. And that was Dan Morgan's day
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  Speaker 2: one target, one of them in free agency. Look at
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  Speaker 2: Dan Morgan bringing in Bobby Okereke, who had a pick
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  Speaker 2: and almost a second one, and nine tackles in his
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  Speaker 2: own right. And then look at the Waller signing. Right there,
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  Speaker 2: there's three examples of Dan Morgan doing work, and two
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  Speaker 2: of them, Bo, were right here at the end of
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  Speaker 2: training camp.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Keeping your eyes on, and I'm sure relationships matter, like
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  Speaker 3: Waller and Beville was with them, and I'm sure that
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  Speaker 3: some things matter. But it's also Mac having a plan,
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  Speaker 3: knowing that, hey, I think we can get Waller in
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  Speaker 3: here at some point. I think Bobby O's going to
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  Speaker 3: be out there. It's it's knowing in advance what you
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  Speaker 3: may need. And Dan Morgan did a great job of
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  Speaker 3: sort of identifying the market, especially with Bobby Owen Waller,
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  Speaker 3: getting them in here. And those are those were they
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  Speaker 3: seem that those are not just bonus signings to fill
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  Speaker 3: in for a guy that's injured or whatever. Those are
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  Speaker 3: highly impactful guys. They got way late in the process. Absolutely.
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: 864 number says Devin Lloyd. Don't know if you noticed,
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  Speaker 2: but Devin Lloyd was commanding that defense out there. Called
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  Speaker 2: the shots, getting people in the right spots. I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to go on a run, he says. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it just feels like he is central casting what was needed.
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  Speaker 2: The leader. And to think, Bone, they barely let him
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  Speaker 2: have the green dot in Jacksonville. And Mike Kay wrote
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  Speaker 2: about this a couple weeks ago where he said, I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't signing with a team that wasn't giving me the
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  Speaker 2: green dot. I want to get the play. I want
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  Speaker 2: to tell my guys what the play is. And I
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  Speaker 2: want to be the leader of this defense. And my God,
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  Speaker 2: his instinct, just reading those slants, Um, this texter says
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  Speaker 2: it's a second week where I find myself wondering who
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  Speaker 2: is our best receiver. It's such a good thing to
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  Speaker 2: be wondering, by the way, like Coker's passes were shorter,
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  Speaker 2: except bone that one you brought up where he does
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  Speaker 2: the amazing toe tap on the sidelines to get it in. Um,
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  Speaker 2: but he caught eight for 66, but as you also said, bone,
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  Speaker 2: he had 49 yards on two punt returns. It's like
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  Speaker 2: I saw a Panthers fan on Twitter. You mean to
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  Speaker 2: tell me the answer to the punt return problem was
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Coker all along?
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  Speaker 4: At first, Mac, I was taken aback. I said, I
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  Speaker 4: think that's Coker. That's Coker.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh my God, I didn't even think
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  Speaker 3: about Coker back there doing that. What a delightful surprise.
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  Speaker 3: They won stealth on that one. They put Mechie number
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  Speaker 3: one on the return job chart. He did still return
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  Speaker 3: kicks with XL. But they talked about Mechie as a
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  Speaker 3: return man, Canales did. And that was a little okie-dokie
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  Speaker 3: pulled on us and the Falcons, clearly.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what?
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  Speaker 3: I'm always a guy that I never want my... One
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  Speaker 3: of my main guys as a kicker returner or but
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  Speaker 3: I guess if in a need by need basis, if
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  Speaker 3: you need Coker to do something, I'd put him back there.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of like Smitty used to do sometimes. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if I want Coker back there all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the question is, can you have a
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  Speaker 2: receiver that is your number, at least a close number
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  Speaker 2: two or a co one? Can you have him returning?
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  Speaker 2: He looks like he's the best we've got. You can
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  Speaker 2: count on him to catch it. And he had 35
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  Speaker 2: yard and a 12 yard return. So, or no, I
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  Speaker 2: think it was 37 and 12, something like that. So
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  Speaker 2: he does look like he's the best at it. So
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  Speaker 2: Dave Canales has a dilemma.
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  Speaker 3: On his hands maybe in the big moments he goes
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  Speaker 3: back there or when you need something safe i don't
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: know i i it's something that definitely teams don't have
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  Speaker 3: to look for that coker can do.
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  Speaker 2: That as well uh 980 uh bta yesterday devin lloyd
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  Speaker 2: player of the game lfg yeah there's no way anybody
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: else wins NFC Defensive Player of the Week, is there?
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: And I say this not being fully aware, Bone, of
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  Speaker 2: what everybody else did, obviously, but I just can't imagine
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  Speaker 2: a game being better than that.
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  Speaker 3: I think he had it, but he had it almost
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: at halftime already.
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  Speaker 4: Then he added to it. No, no, no. I'm thinking
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  Speaker 4: he might be in the Hall of Fame by the
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  Speaker 4: end of the week. How about that return, too, by
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  Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd? It's like, oh, bro. He had to play
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  Speaker 4: like some running back or something. Had to. That was
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  Speaker 4: some moves.
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  Speaker 2: And then the one that he got into the end
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  Speaker 2: zone required a little bit of finishing as well.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness. Lee Gett getting love. Yes, I said that, baby.
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: Lee Gett getting love, hauled in the deep ball. And
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  Speaker 2: what a dime that was from Bryce.
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  Speaker 3: We forgot, Mac, that we talked to Devin Lloyd about
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: at training camp what he did in high school. He
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  Speaker 3: was a wide receiver, the safety, and the putter.
• 10:46
  Speaker 4: Remember? Oh, that's right. He was the putter. So he
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: was wide receiver, not running back. Yeah, wide receiver, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But he was also the team's putter. At some point,
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: he might putt for this team. That's the only thing
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  Speaker 3: he didn't do yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: 704 number says, where's the Idzik love, y'all? You can't
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: convince me that Bryce Young would have played like that
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  Speaker 2: with Canales calling plays. Yeah, you got an interesting point there.
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  Speaker 2: It does feel like Idzik wants to be more aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: And this was the theory bone that guys like Mike
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  Speaker 2: K and Joe Person had in the offseason. They might
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: have had some intel that, hey, it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: He is going to be more aggressive. But it felt
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  Speaker 2: like so many times Dave was almost afraid of Bryce sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: And I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 2: Especially as efficient as Bryce was at throwing the deep
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: ball last year, and they just didn't push it. And
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  Speaker 2: it does feel like they're pushing the ball downfield way more.
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  Speaker 2: Under Brad Idzik, I mean, Bryce already, he had five
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: more deep balls yesterday, has eight already for the season.
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  Speaker 2: I do think Idzik needs to work in the run
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: game a little more early, but we're averaging 30-something points, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: and we're second in the NFL in scoring. So it's like,
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: how much can we nitpick Brad Idzik? Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's been pretty phenomenal.
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: Noted Bryce Young hater Randall has sent in a text here,
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: an apology letter.
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  Speaker 4: To Bryce. Oh, this is heartwarming. Heartwarming. We have a
• 12:07
  Speaker 4: list here of guys being accountable. Randall, you, sir. Welcome
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: to Club Rice. I tried to trade him once, but
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: I learned my lesson.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had to apologize after the whole benching thing.
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  Speaker 4: But you know what, Mac?
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  Speaker 3: I believe a wise man said it was the last
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: 10 games of a couple years ago that really made
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: us buy in.
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: And then the last eight games of last year.
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  Speaker 2: But lo and behold, I didn't know this was legal
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  Speaker 2: for Bryce to do it in the first X amount
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  Speaker 2: of games. That's the thing. He ain't supposed to start
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: like this, y'all. Look the hell out. How fired up
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: are you about Bryce, Vinny?
• 12:41
  Speaker 5: Oh, you know that I'm loving it. Was really happy
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: for him yesterday. And Mac, you know what I thought
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: as the game was unfolding? As much as you saw
• 12:50
  Speaker 5: the benefit of him in week one being the play caller,
• 12:53
  Speaker 5: you saw it yesterday too. Because the offense, as you mentioned,
• 12:56
  Speaker 5: came out, they were leaving points on the field, a
• 12:59
  Speaker 5: bunch of penalties. But since Dave's no longer calling plays,
• 13:03
  Speaker 5: Inzik can address that while the defense is on the field.
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  Speaker 5: You can clean up some stuff. You can make adjustments.
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  Speaker 5: You don't have to wait until halftime. You're making adjustments
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  Speaker 5: on the fly.
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  Speaker 4: And he's staying aggressive.
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  Speaker 5: He's putting Bryce in situations where– He can be the
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  Speaker 5: best version of himself. And so you're starting to see
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  Speaker 5: the benefits of that decision. And it all goes back
• 13:26
  Speaker 5: to Dave being unselfish and willing to relinquish what got
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: him the job. What got him to the position to
• 13:33
  Speaker 5: be a head coach in the league but saying, hey,
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: I'm holding this team back. I'm holding this offense back
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  Speaker 5: from being the best version of himself.
• 13:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that's what makes Canales so likable, man.
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  Speaker 5: And it's why he's an easy.
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  Speaker 4: Coach to work for. There's no ego there. Because it's
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: all about team, team, team.
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: There's some egotistical SOBs that coach football teams in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Looking at you, Sean Payton.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: Like 99% of them, especially the offensive guys. He's not
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: one of those guys. The offensive boy wanders. You have
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: to fight that play calling away. Like, the owner has
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: to tell him, bro, it's sucking. This is the only
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: way you're saving your job. And for Canales, I believe
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: he truly evaluated and was unselfish. and Brad Idzik has
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: brought another dimension.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: Fitty getting a lot of love here on the text line.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Second straight hour.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's good to see his family's texting him this morning.
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  Speaker 2: This texter says, three scores galore. He did it. Fitty,
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: you can three-score galore pick any time you want. Mack
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: and Bone, don't you even think of it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's going to be hard to keep me off
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: the wagon this.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Week, buddy.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: Even after the Plucky Browns beat those Buccaneers, Boney? That
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: said more about Tampa than it did about Cleveland to me.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know about you, Mac. I'm smelling. I'm smelling
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: shutout on Sunday in Cleveland.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: He's going for it again, y'all. He is going for
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: it again. I think I'll sit there and keep picking
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: my one-score game, sir. I don't think anybody needs to
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: hear me with three scores galore.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: In the current DraftKings MVP odds, Bryce Young has now
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: cracked the top 16.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: Okay, there you go, baby. There you go. There you go.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: He's closing in on Justin Herbert at some point.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: He's second in the NFL in passing yards. And tied
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: for first in touchdown passes. Better move him up. 16's
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: a disrespect.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Turd Ferguson says, are we getting Atlanta Misery Radio this week?
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's going to have to be done.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure KB and those boys are going to
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: have their version of loser radio. But yes, we are
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: going to have to listen to a fair amount of
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: miserable Atlanta sports talk radio today and pull out the
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: best clips. And that dude on YouTube, I forget what
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: the guy's name is, but that dude loses his mind, man.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: He is going to have to be cut off. He
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: is going to be freaking out. They were booing. From
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: the jump yesterday. That was hilarious.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: And that was the real crowd noise, not the fake noise.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: They had to pump into that sorry excuse of a stadium.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, God.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: We own those boys now. And for so many years, Bone,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: they would take it to us. And I freaking hated it.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: We own those boys. Now, four straight wins against them
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: for the first time ever for us. Did y'all see
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: the video of the security guard that Bryce made sure
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: to dap up when he was walking in the tunnel?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Security guard that works at the stadium in Atlanta, y'all.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Waiting for the Panthers to come into the locker room
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: and cheering them on. them as they come on yeah
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: boys well big win boys.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: It makes sense Bryce owns the building he's the landlord
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: it's rent day coming up.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Bryce is his boss you think and Vashti asked him
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Vashti put this up Carolina Blitz Vashti says hold on
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: you a Panthers fan or something he says from day
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: one and then he rattles off like all the OGs
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: of Panther history it's like oh this dude's a real
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: one and then yeah he goes over to Bryce Bryce
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: taps him up oh my what was Bryce running from
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: on that clip did y'all see that.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It looked like he was running. Not
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: the Falcons defense. It looked like he was running to hide, Finney.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he was doing. Bryce is giddy, man.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: You can tell he's having fun. So hopefully we'll continue.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: When we come back, Jim Zoki, Panthers Radio Network, in
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: studio to recap the win yesterday and his views from
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: the booth. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ. Go on and.
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: Bury me.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: We are rocking and rolling. It is a Panther victory Monday.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: It is a beautiful day, ladies and gentlemen. And Jim
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Zoki is with us, as he is every Monday at
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: this time, Panthers Radio Network.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: He walked in here with a little bit of bounce
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: to his step. Man. This is going to be a
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: fun Monday conversation.
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: What's going on? What is going on with this team?
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: Last week, we're talking about 59-30. What, 37 the wrong direction?
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: As I said when the show began, nothing says NFL
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: more than the Panthers allowing three this week and the
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Bears scoring three against Minnesota.
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: I kind of love the Vikings for, you know. Clam
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: and Ben Johnson up for a week after. One of
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: the most points in the history of football.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Now they may lose Caleb Williams for an extended period
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: with a hamstring injury.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens.
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: But even that happened like mid-fourth quarter.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: That was late. Yeah, that was late.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: And they had been struggling and held the three points
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: with him for three and a half quarters.
• 18:29
  Speaker 8: Hey, let's call the Chicago stations. Let's wake them up.
• 18:31
  Speaker 8: Let's see what's going on in Chicago.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: I like this.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Zoki Prey call another station. Zoki's feeling feisty, baby. I
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: like this, man.
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: This is Tom from Peoria. I was wondering. Let's call
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: the Chicago station. Shit.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Zoki, you unplug.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, I hear they're so mad in Chicago this morning,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: they said, Indiana, take them. Go ahead and take them.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Build your stadium.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: So we were talking during the break about Bryce Young.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: What a start to the season. Three more touchdown passes.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: He continues to push the ball downfield. What do you think?
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Is Brad Idzik the number one difference for Bryce? Is
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: it just Bryce being in this system for another year?
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: It's probably a lot of things.
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: Credit all that. Yeah, credit all that and more. And
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: I think with, you know, Dave Kadalis was talking yesterday
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: about Bryce's development. And he talked about, and I love
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: this phrase. It kind of stood out of all the
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: things I heard yesterday after the game. Bryce's offense. I mean,
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: he's calling it Bryce's offense. And the way he deals
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: in practice with the receivers about Route adjustments and nuances
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: and things with the chemistry and obviously so much is
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: timing involved that, you know, it takes the guy on
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: the field as much as you can play design and
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: all that. And Brad Idzik obviously is doing a great
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: job dialing up the plays. You have to function in it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: And it's Bryce's offense that he's orchestrating out there. And
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: we kind of talked you know, in the past, like,
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: you know, that whole mentality about, you know, distributing the
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: ball and just, you know, being accurate and kind of,
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: you know, in terms of like managing the game and
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: dinking and dunking. But you said it a moment ago,
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: the deep passes, he was five out of seven on
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: the deep passes yesterday, 160 yards and under duress. I mean,
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: there were times he's been taken the first two weeks.
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: He's been taking some big hits. And it's not too much.
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: It's not like, oh, he can't absorb that. I mean,
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: he's standing in the pocket when needed to, getting out
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: when he also can, but doing all the things. There's
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: nothing that is like, you're limiting down or simplifying or
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: keeping it small ball as far as the way they're
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: playing the offense right now.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: How shrewd of a signing was Waller, especially when you
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: look at how much he opens things up in the
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: red zone area?
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, doing exactly what you hoped and anticipated
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: he would be as a red zone threat in particular,
• 20:37
  Speaker 8: and he'll be other factors in that too, but he
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: gets three catches and two of them go for touchdowns yesterday.
• 20:42
  Speaker 8: And again, it's not always going to work out that
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: way exactly, but what a threat. And if it's not,
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: what a great decoy to get it to, you know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: TMAC or somebody else and so forth. So I think, yeah,
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: having Waller in there as just another option. is just, again,
• 20:55
  Speaker 8: enhances what you can do and opens up the playbook
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: for what you can create out there.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Big time.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: And Waller also talked about the cerebral in practice part
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: of Bryce. Apparently, he and Waller on Friday after practice
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: spent some time together. And Waller said, Bryce talked me
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: through that exact look on his second touchdown that they got.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: He said, he went through it, and what I want
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: you to do, he said, I did it. Did what
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Bryce told me, because I saw the look, and he
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: gave it to me. And how about the ball placement
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: on that second touchdown to Waller? Like, knowing the defender
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: is coming back from the outside, so I'm going to
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: put it behind him, but inside, but still catchable?
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Like, it's stuff like that that gets you excited.
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: That's different level stuff.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: He's doing different level stuff, and man, it is fun.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: And then we hadn't even talked about the defense bouncing back.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: And I understand it was against a couple of quarterbacks
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: that are stinky. There's no doubt about that. But that
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: was good to see. And Devin Lloyd.
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: We're down a few players on defense.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: No doubt. No doubt.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: And that Devin Lloyd performance was, talk about dominating a game, man.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: And then you think, too, like not only did he
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: have the two interceptions and the pick six, he deflected
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: the one that Okereke got. So he actually literally had
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: his hand in all three interceptions yesterday. He and Okereke together,
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: the two inside linebackers, tied for the most tackles in
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: the game. Okereke, again, forced a fumble last week in
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: the game against Chicago. He gets an interception. Lloyd with
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: a sack in this game on top of everything else
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: that he did. That was like a position of such
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: concern moving into this offseason. And now you've got to
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: go through two games like, do we have one of
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: the top three or so inside pairings of linebackers in
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: the league with the way those two guys are playing
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: right now.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: You still have Dodson, who wasn't active yesterday, but I
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: think he's a baller, too. They got a nice— now, unfortunately,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: he lost chairless. That injury looked nasty.
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: On the replay.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was gross. God, I hope he's all right.
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: I'm glad Tom Brady wasn't calling our game. What would
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: he have said?
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Brady would have cussed. There's no doubt about it. Holy,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: I've never seen that. That was a.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Very human moment from Tom Brady, though. I will say
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: a very human reaction to Tom Brady.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: What about Tom Brady's description for that deep ball by
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Dak in the second half? I don't even know if
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: we're allowed to say it.
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: On the air. Side of caution, maybe.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: He said P-missile, but he said P-I-S-S, missile. I have
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: never heard that in my life from a broadcaster on TV.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: In the middle of the game.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: It's tom brady what the hell was brady on yesterday.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Zoki when you talk about all-time linebacker performances by panthers
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: how telling is it and how hard is it for
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: devin lloyd to get in that discussion what do you
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: think about the historical nature of the position he's playing
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: for the carolina panthers with sam mills with dan morgan
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: but they all have their moments in panther war and
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: this guy in game two puts himself i'm not saying
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: that's equal in terms of career, but individual performances, that's
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: way up there.
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, that's Panthers history. And then Dave Canales, again,
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: said in his 17 years coaching, he's never seen a
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: better performance by a linebacker. So to me, that says
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: it all right there. But yeah, this is a great
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: lineage of going all the way back to year one
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: with Sam Mills and then Lamar Latham, Kevin Green, of
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: all the great linebackers you've had through the history of
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: this franchise. He does everything and beyond because you have
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: to also think about the fact he's the green dot.
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: He's a communicator. and he's out there working as kind
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: of the connector of that defense in addition to how
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: well he's playing out there, which, again, not comparing careers,
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: but that's what Luke Kuechly was like. That's what Greg
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: Olson was like on offense, guys that would communicate and
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: get other people aligned around them to help make the
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: whole team better.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Big time, man. What a signing that is.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Good point by Joe and Raleigh on the text line.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: He also points out offense is rolling. and Icky and Moten,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: the stalwart tackles, have not played yet this year.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I thought the tackles struggled a bit yesterday.
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: And again, we talked about the pressure on Bryce, so
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: there are areas of improvement still.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and all the penalties on the offense and the
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: offensive line. Rob Hunt with three, Trimble had two. But yeah, Bone,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: the tackles yesterday, I don't know what PFF's final numbers
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: will be, but they do like a live in-game stuff.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: And when the game finished, they had Freeling with the
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: sack allowed, um and four pressures they had walker with
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: a sack allowed and six pressures so there's no doubt
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: that the pass protection wasn't great that the penalties hurt
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: this offense but they still put.
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: Up 34 i mean.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Like that's that's the cool thing about.
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: It that shows you what the potential could be we
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: could be the highest scoring team in nfl.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: History johnson we're coming for you a lot of it
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: was in the second half because they didn't really start
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: i mean i ended the first half yes but They
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: didn't really start out like a house of fire either offensively.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: They had the lead, but it was like, they've got
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: to tend to nothing. Should have been more early on.
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: Well, again, you'd like to think you'd have the running
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: game because that takes so much pressure off the pass game.
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: So even without a big running day, and maybe Atlanta's
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: kind of picking their poison with that, trying to take
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: the running game away. The Panthers still, again, to your point,
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: put up 34 points, had plenty on that one. So
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: I thought it was just, again, it's nice to see
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: that you can play that well And again, I don't
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: feel sorry for anybody else's injuries. I mean, some of
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: theirs occurred during the offseason where they had time to
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: kind of regroup. Panthers in training camp, I mean, we're
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: just losing key guys and starters. To his credit, Aaron
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: Hall starting the game, undrafted rookie at defensive line in
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: this game. And he gets a fumble recovery in the game,
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: first one. He played six tackles. Zachy Wheatley's first rep
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: in the NFL is a forced fumble.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: How about that punch? Like an inch off the ground,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: he's punching a damn ball out. That was a hell
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: of a play, man.
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: So it wasn't all like... You know, Devin Lloyd and
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: Jalen Phillips who had a sack. It wasn't all like
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: the big free agent signings. You've got rookies that are
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: playing that are– first-day draft picks or draft picks at
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: all that are contributing to the win yesterday.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Big time, big time. No doubt about it. I thought
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: we had Zaki Wheatley, but apparently we have Zaki Wheatley also,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: I guess.
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: It's Zaki Wheatley.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: He's got multiple names. I had no idea until recently.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: They said it wrong his entire college career because he
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: played at Penn State.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: So, you know, I watched him play. Well, ETN became
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: A-chan this year. That's true. That's true.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I believe there is such a large number of guys
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: whose names are being pronounced incorrectly and they just go
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: with it for a while.
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: I interviewed Zaki Wheatley in training camp. And I said,
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: does anyone ever call you Zach? And I thought the
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: answer was going to be yes. Like it says, Zachy,
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: does anyone ever say Zach Wheatley? He goes, no.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: And don't you do it again.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Don't you dare do it again.
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: That is right, Zachy. Nobody does call you Zach.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: That is hilarious.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Multiple people pointing out that we have scored more points.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: So far, than Ben Johnson's high-flying greatest offense ever. Are
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: we allowed to laugh, though, at somebody that put up
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: 59 on his last week?
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: It's not even close, actually. It's 71-62.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: It's a new week. Do whatever you want. Week-to-week league, baby.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: I don't even remember last week. Oh, my gosh. Did
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: we play last week?
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: Did that one count?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: This texter says, Bryce Young spreading the ball around to
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: eight different receivers is so key.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: And XL catching that deep one is big.
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: Was that like a moment like you're like the dad
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: in the stands and the ball's in the air?
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: So nervous.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Catch it, Timmy! Timmy, catch it!
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: And he does. I mean, because the whole time you're thinking, I.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Was so worried. I was so worried. And it looked
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: so funny. Catch it, Timmy. That was a great comparison.
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: I'm sitting there with Eugene. We're all like watching like
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: that Joe Rogan meme where they're like doing the... Catch it.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: You got it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: That is so funny.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: And the way he caught it, I think he was
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: worried about it, too, because I thought he could have
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: gone in standing up.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: It seemed like he kind of went to the ground
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: just to kind of pull it in tight.
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: And holding it over the top of his shoulder, like
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: away from the ground, so it wouldn't be like, Zog, I.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Know you were busy calling the game, but did you
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: hear about the TV thing? malfunction where i don't know
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: if it was on all platforms i was on youtube
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: tv i don't know if everyone had this problem.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: I think it was just a fox problem because people
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: are going off on twitter.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: The jets packers audio came over the the broadcast i
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: do we were watching the panther broadcast and then it
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: would go to sometimes the vikings bears yeah then vikings
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: bears came i must have.
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: Messed you up when the jets were always i gotta
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: be honest with you i was.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Kind of like you know what i can kind of
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: deal with this a little bit i got the jets
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: audio the panthers multitasking.
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah the game here's the gamecocks replay for you Hey, whoa, hey, whoa.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: Hey, hey, hey, hey.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Hey, hey. Mr. ECU gets one comfort body win. That's right.
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: It was a big weekend.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Today's a pro day, Zoke.
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: Let me enjoy the weekend.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: All right, Zoke, you demand.
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: All right, guys, enjoy.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Enjoy your victory.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: God, it's a lot.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: You can tell Zoke likes this a lot more. Could
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: have used a state of Carolina joke there as well, Zoke.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: There are multiple ways he could have went with some
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: of those Saturday afternoon blown leads. Zoke, he's just, he's...
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Got a pep in his step there. He likes the
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Victory Mondays. I'm convinced, Bone, that Zoki would rather be
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: waterboarded than come in here on Mondays and talk after losses.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Is that an option?
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: Is that on the menu of options?
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Why don't you take that? That would be a hell
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: of a social media video. Oh, man. All right, Zoki,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: enjoy Cleveland.
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, that's right. We'll be in Cleveland.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, the Zoki Bowl.
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: I'm going from Greenville to Cleveland next week, so I
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: got a game there, and there were no flights between
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: Raleigh and Charlottes. I'm driving to Washington, D.C. to fly
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: Sunday morning to Cleveland from Greenville.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Love of the game.
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: Not Washington, North Carolina. Washington, D.C.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, my. That's a plane, trains, and automobiles situation for you. Exactly.
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: I don't have the Kirk Herbst Street deal.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: All right, backers. We're going to say we go to Phinney.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: You ready for an update there, big dog?
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• 30:55
  Speaker 4: He's like, son, what are you doing up here? Don't jump.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Don't jump, Tone Jr.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: This is a great time for me to introduce the
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: new stray sound effect I have pulled, guys. Whenever you
• 31:05
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• 31:10
  Speaker 5: be the recognition that someone is catching many astrays.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Love it. Love it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: That one there goes to Flounder. Two quarterback injuries of
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: note yesterday in the NFL. Caleb Williams with a hamstring injury.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: And then quarterback Jaden Daniels for the Commanders with a
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: dislocated elbow. So two massive injuries in the NFL yesterday.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: And Mac, you'll be proud of me. Had some Bears
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: fans out at Twin Peaks that I had to sit beside.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: And when Caleb Williams threw a pick, I said, that's
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: the real Caleb Williams right there, baby.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I love it. What the hell? We'll talk trash even
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: though we damn near gave up 60. Did you last week?
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: That was last week. They scored three points yesterday.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Week to week league, baby. I'm watching a steamy video
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: right now, Mac. Brian Baldinger has found for Baldy's breakdowns
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd's performance yesterday.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Oh, there you go. There you go, Baldy. I've already
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: said my gracious today, right? I've already done my Vern...
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: It was last hour, though. You're good. My gracious.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: All right, when we come back here on the Mac
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: and Bone radio program, was the defense great? Or was
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: it just against a horrible football team? How are we
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: feeling now about Avero's unit? Sports Radio. That sounded weird.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNC.
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: I don't know if I've seen a better performance out
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: of a linebacker in 17 years of coaching in the NFL.
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: Two interceptions, one for a touchdown, a sack, eight tackles,
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: a batted pass. I mean, It's attributed to his study
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: and being in the right spots. And then, of course,
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: I didn't realize his hands were that good. The slant
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: that he picked off there at the end was incredible
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: and the run after catch on the first one. So
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: one of the most dominant linebacker performances I've seen.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Coach Canales giving all the love in the world to
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd. And I'm not sure you can overstate the
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: game he played and how he dominated in so many
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: different ways. Like Zoki said, he played a role in
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: all three picks, had a pick six himself, two total picks.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: How about the third down tackle for loss to get
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: us off the field? So those are four times right
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: there he ended Atlanta's possessions. And I'm not sure if
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: the splits on a sack bone was on third down
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: or not.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: I have to look that up.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: But I said last Monday that in defeat and in
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: a horrible day for the defense, one thing I did
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: notice is Devin Lloyd is an animal blitzing. He goes
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: after that running back that's doing blitz pickup like you
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: stole something from him. Like maybe like you stole something
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: from his mama.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm watching the film highlights right now without audio,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: of course, because I'm talking to you.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: It's audio of the Jets game. I'm watching. No, wait, wait.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: We're getting now. Actually, it was good to hear Greg
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Olson on the Bears-Vikings. We got a little bit of that. Yeah,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: we got a little bit of that in there.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Tara asked me, is this a new feature? I said, no,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: we don't pay for this new feature.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Somebody said Fox is debuting the audio red zone where
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: they keep you on your game but give you the
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: audio of the other games. Yeah.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I'm watching Mac Baldy's breakdowns right now where he slows
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: it down, and you can just see from whatever he's
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: breaking down, it's all Devin Lloyd's highlight plays. Mac, it
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: was a complete mismatch of the mental game, the chess
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: match of the quarterback versus the linebacker on the one
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: where he deflects the ball for the interception.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: He is going... where he knows Cooper Rush. He's there
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: before Cooper Rush even gets there. He read that. He's
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: all over the place.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: He read that slant over and over again. There's tackles
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: in the backfield where he's already there when the guy
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: gets there. He was all over the place. He read
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: that slant all night. And by the way, Devin Lloyd
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: can play chess. Cooper Rush and Jack Strand, they play
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: chutes and ladders. That's the level of game that they
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: are at. I mean, it's atrocious, y'all. Hey, hold on
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: a minute.
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: Fellow.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: That's a thinking man's game.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: If you're five, I would say that gets you thinking.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: We've got to talk about this defense, y'all, because it's funny.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I have not seen Averro's name in the text. I've
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: seen it one time when someone reacted to Bone reading
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: a tease off that said, how do you feel now
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: about Averro's unit? That's when somebody texted in, ha ha,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: you said Averro's unit. But there had not been one
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: mention of a zero Averro.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Zero.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: And I don't expect there to be. This far from
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: means bone were the 85 Bears. And I understand the
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: players are going to get the credit when the defense
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: plays well. And for some reason, Averro and not the
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: players get the blame for most of y'all. I don't
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: understand why, but that's the way it works. But it
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: was a statement from the defense. Devin Lloyd said it,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: said we wanted to rebound. And again, it's far from
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: the greatest opponent in the world, but Pittsburgh's got a
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: pretty damn good defense.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: They got to pick six against Atlanta. So do we.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: And they allowed 13 points, 10 more than we did.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a statement performance. And I would think, Bone,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: the truth lies somewhere in between the first two extremes, right?
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Probably not as good as this.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Definitely not as bad as last week, but there's talent
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: on this defense, man.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: As I search here, Averro's name this morning, we are
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: now almost two hours into the program. Averro's name has
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: come up one time on the text line. If you
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: search last week, it came up, let me do the
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: math here, calculate, 897 times at this point.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, he's one of those dudes that will never get
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: credit if the defense plays well. He will only get
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: mentioned if the defense plays bad. And I'm not sure
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: he gives a damn. He doesn't seem to get himself
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: caught up in any of that stuff. But I thought
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: it was a great response. I thought they did a
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: great job against the running game early in making Cooper
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Rush get into third downs and passing situations. I thought
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: they did a great job. I think as the game
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: went on, the Robinsons got a little more going in
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: the run game on us. But you look at the
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: final box score, Bijan didn't even have 90 total yards.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts had one catch. I mean, again, a lot
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: of it has to do with the quarterbacks that are playing.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: And somebody here texted, if they would have had Penix
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: or Tua, it would have been a different game. Let
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: me use Princely's line. We beat Penix 30 to nothing
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: last year. I also believe we beat that Tua fellow
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: last year as well.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's very true.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: So stop acting like they had, like in Atlanta, they
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: have some sort of grand solution.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: Their quarterback....
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Their quarterback for next year is not even on their roster.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: They are just in quarterback purgatory, man. Their offense has
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: not appeared on the Red Zone channel yet this year.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Because they have not been in there. They have not
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: been in the Red Zone this season. I love the
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: fact we kept that up. And they got close twice.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Scott Hanson does not know who's on the Falcons offense.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I wanted that so badly. I don't know about you, Bo. Yeah.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Because Tim Brando was following that the whole way through.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: And I was like, please, dude, keep this going for
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: two straight. Because Field Yates and the boys on ESPN
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: were laughing after one week that they were the only
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: team that didn't enter the red zone. The fact that
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: we made it two weeks is glorious. God, I love
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: that team sucking, man.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: And, Mac, to make things worse for those two teams
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: in the division– Well, New Orleans looks formidable. Tampa Bay
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: hosts Minnesota this week. Minnesota's better than I thought. Minnesota's
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: defense is good. Tampa Bay very well could be 0-3. Falcons,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: as we know. Who's Tampa playing next week? Tampa Bay's
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: playing Minnesota at home. The Falcons play Thursday night at
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Green Bay. So both those dwellers right now could be 0-3.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I've also not seen Tampa Tammy walk by the window
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: today yet either, by the way.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Remember, she doesn't get here until Wednesday. She might not
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: be here until the offseason. Bro, she'll be doing military crawls.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: We have a window that you can't see below. She's
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: going to be doing military crawls to sneak past that window,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: So what are people saying about the defense? This dude
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: said it showed they got pride, Mac. The defense was
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: embarrassed by last week, and they responded. They wanted to
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: take it out on someone else. Devin Lloyd is a
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: game changer, y'all. I thought he was just okay the
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: first week. If we get this version, he will make
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: everybody around him better. I think that's a very good point.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: He has a lot of that Luke Keekly, like, hey,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: it's coming here, it's coming there. You brought up, Bone,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: the way he was reading the past. and knew where
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: they were going. Canales said that's film study. This texter
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: says he is concerned about Will Lee. Willie had a
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: couple of pass breakups, made a couple of plays. He
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: actually tripped up Robinson out in the flat, barely. That
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: was the one where he staggered out of bounds. I
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: thought he was going to get out of the tackle,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: but he made a few plays. But yeah, when you
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: bite on a double move, when a team has like
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: 15 seconds to go 80 yards, I've got to question
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: whether or not you're a little too eager as a rookie.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Like, you just, oh, I'm going to get up there
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: and press him, baby.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. There's 15 seconds left, bro. Let him
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: catch it in front of you. And we were lucky.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: We were lucky he didn't get beat deep on that one.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: No doubt.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: We're lucky Cooper Rush has the arm of my dog.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Murphy on that throw.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, what a terror. I mean, Dotson was going
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: to the house if that was anywhere near his hands.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: That was a gift there. Wheatley played real good as
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: a rookie, speaking of rookies. This dude says, why the
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: heck was Smith Wade inactive for the game? I was
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: surprised by that.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I'll have to look bone when PFF releases their final numbers,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: like who defensively had, you know, the most snaps in
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: the slot and kind of see how they did it.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, for whatever reason, I didn't feel like they
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: needed that, you know, kind of. prototypical kind of nickel yesterday.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: This dude says it was a great game by the defense,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: but I'm still waiting for Prince Lee to do something.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I actually thought Prince Lee made two plays bone that
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: maybe have gone unnoticed.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: He drew two penalties. He should have had a sack.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: But Jake Matthews did one of the cheapest, sorriest things
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen a tackle do. He was beat so
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: bad that he grabbed the face mask of Prince Lee
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: and literally ripped it around. Dude, he looked like he
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: was still, and did you see Prince Lee was still
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: driving towards Rush and hitting him, even though his helmet
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: was getting turned around completely.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: It was exorcist-like.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. He also drew another penalty. I think
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: it was a hold later in the game with a
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: good Rush. So there were a couple of moments there.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: So he's right. Aaron Hall flashed in this game to me.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: He had six total tackles and you noticed it. I
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: looked up when there were run stuffs and I'm not
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: saying Boney was by himself. Sometimes it was with Derek Brown.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it was a Cam Jackson who made a couple
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: of stuffs.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Right. Sometimes it was with Phillips.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: But like Hall flashed to me as an undrafted rookie.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Another another.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: The ability to identify talent, Mac, whether it's undrafted or
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: what the team needs in free agency, kudos to Dan
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Morgan because it feels like, look, he may not be
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: a star, but there's another viable contributor in Aaron Hall
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: to this team that they found after the draft.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Big time.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: This dude says, Mac is so annoying with the Averro stuff.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: We could play a grade school team. And Mac would
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: be on here saying, what a job by the court.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I haven't even said what a game plan I have.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Although it was interesting. We continued to blitz a ton
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: and that has not been Avero's MO. They blitzed and
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: this was PFF's initial numbers. I don't know if they'll
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: be altered when they do the review bone, but PFF
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: had us blitzing rush like 55% of the time and
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: blitzing strand 71% of the time with a huge lead.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: That is a change in his, in his year of Avero.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: And it, Hey, listen, it didn't work great against Chicago,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: worked great this on Sunday. So I'm kind of intrigued
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: by that. But I'm not on here trying to act
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: like it was a masterclass by Ajiro Vero strategically. I'm
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: just simply pointing out the defense is not as bad
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: as last week. They're probably not going to hold everybody
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: to three points and force five turnovers. And also the
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: part where Averro only gets mentioned if they're bad.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Like, that is noted.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Do you have Husky parts prank calling the Atlanta station
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: right now?
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Does he want to? Yeah, he's on hold, yeah. Oh, nice, nice.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: What are you up to over there? Because, well, Turd Ferguson, well,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Zoki brought it up. Then Turd Ferguson suggested we make
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: it a weekly thing when we win, in addition to
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: the montage of misery. And it just occurred to me
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: that old Husky might be the best guy at it. Like,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: he would take sheer joy in mocking somebody else. Also,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Husky feels like he may have a lot of time
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: on his hands.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: That's another thing. You've got to find the guy that's free.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: By the way, Weatherman Mark back on Friday for the
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: pep talk, right?
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: He earned another one, right? Yeah, he's got to. He's
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: got to.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I thought Weatherman brought an enthusiasm that I didn't know
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: he had on Friday.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: Like, that was an extra gear for him on Friday.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir. When we come back, Pumped or Pissed Monday,
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: plenty of fan bases out there with reason to be ticked.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Let it rip, everyone, including one of my own, Sports
• 44:05
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