Latest / Your Hope-Filled Perspective with Dr. Michelle Bengtson podcast / How Easter Transforms our Mental and Emotional Battles - Living in Resurrection Hope
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Life Audio.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Have you ever noticed how Easter morning feels light and bright.
- 0:08Speaker 2: It's not necessarily because the sunrise seems extra colorfuler because
- 0:13Speaker 2: the church lilies release their fragrance. It's because something shifts
- 0:17Speaker 2: inside us and whispers, hope is still alive. This hope
- 0:22Speaker 2: isn't fragile, and it doesn't evaporate when bills pile up,
- 0:25Speaker 2: or when anxiety keeps you awake at night, or when
- 0:27Speaker 2: the ache you prayed would be gone is still there.
- 0:30Speaker 2: We're talking about resurrection hope, the nitty gritty kind that
- 0:35Speaker 2: Jesus bought for us the moment he walked out of
- 0:38Speaker 2: the tomb. Easter has everything to do with the battles
- 0:41Speaker 2: happening in our minds and emotions today. We are talking
- 0:45Speaker 2: about the kind of hope that transforms us. It's not
- 0:48Speaker 2: the pastel colored nor is it the once a year
- 0:50Speaker 2: kind of hope, but in everyday hope. Welcome to your
- 0:54Speaker 2: hope filled perspective, where it's our goal to restore hope,
- 0:57Speaker 2: renew minds, and empower listeners to live in your God
- 1:00Speaker 2: given identity. I'm your host, Doctor Michelle bankson Board, certified
- 1:04Speaker 2: clinical neuropsychologist, author, speaker, and companion on this journey to
- 1:09Speaker 2: emotional and spiritual wellness. I'm delighted you've chosen to spend
- 1:13Speaker 2: a few moments of your week with us. Today we
- 1:16Speaker 2: are going to be talking about how Easter transforms our
- 1:19Speaker 2: mental and emotional battles when we live in resurrection. Hope.
- 1:23Speaker 2: We'll dive into this right after this brief word from
- 1:26Speaker 2: our sponsor. Today we're exploring how to live in resurrection, Hope,
- 1:34Speaker 2: not just to celebrate it. We want to talk about
- 1:36Speaker 2: how Easter transforms our emotional and mental struggles. Shame, stress, anxiety, discouragement,
- 1:44Speaker 2: fear or depression does not get the final word. Jesus
- 1:48Speaker 2: didn't just rise for the world. He rose for you,
- 1:52Speaker 2: for the battle in your chest, the thoughts that don't
- 1:55Speaker 2: have an off button, and for those dark places that
- 1:58Speaker 2: still shout lies direction. Isn't only a historical and theological event,
- 2:04Speaker 2: It's a mental and emotional revolution. Romans eight eleven says,
- 2:09Speaker 2: And if the spirit of Him who raised Jesus from
- 2:12Speaker 2: the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ
- 2:15Speaker 2: from the dead will also give life to your mortal
- 2:18Speaker 2: bodies because of His spirit who lives in you. Let's
- 2:21Speaker 2: let that verse settle in our hearts and minds. The
- 2:24Speaker 2: power that resurrected a dead body is the same power
- 2:28Speaker 2: God places in our inner Christian world to bring back
- 2:32Speaker 2: to life, hope, peace and joy when they feel gone.
- 2:36Speaker 2: Yet Christians often live like Easter is a spiritual anniversary,
- 2:40Speaker 2: not their present reality. We celebrate the resurrection, but then
- 2:43Speaker 2: we go back to living mentally exhausted, emotionally beat up,
- 2:47Speaker 2: and spiritually discouraged. So joining me in this conversation today
- 2:51Speaker 2: about the power of resurrection hope is my co host
- 2:54Speaker 2: Jessica Nrukohl. Welcome back, jess Thanks.
- 2:57Speaker 3: I'm so glad to be here, and I'm excited to
- 2:59Speaker 3: talk about this this topic I feel really strongly about
- 3:03Speaker 3: because I see in my work as pastor and at
- 3:07Speaker 3: our church, I see so many people who show up
- 3:10Speaker 3: for Easter or Christmas, and then I don't see them again,
- 3:13Speaker 3: and I miss them, and I keep thinking what they're missing,
- 3:17Speaker 3: and it makes me sad. And so that's why today
- 3:20Speaker 3: is such a good topic. You see, once Easter is over,
- 3:23Speaker 3: it's like we forget that the resurrection means nothing is
- 3:27Speaker 3: too broken for God to restore, or that our story
- 3:30Speaker 3: is never finished even on our worst day, and that
- 3:33Speaker 3: defeat doesn't have to be our last chapter. When we're
- 3:37Speaker 3: anxious or overwhelmed, we can often think we shouldn't feel
- 3:40Speaker 3: that way because we're Christian. We shame ourselves into thinking
- 3:43Speaker 3: we should be stronger. But living in resurrection hope meets
- 3:48Speaker 3: us right in the struggle.
- 3:49Speaker 2: Oh exactly. Easter isn't a bandage. It's really a breakthrough,
- 3:54Speaker 2: and it announces the defeat of mental and emotional battles.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Get practical, and let's explore what resurrection hope looks like
- 4:04Speaker 2: in our emotional battles. Just share a time when the
- 4:08Speaker 2: nitty gritty hope of the resurrection met you in an
- 4:11Speaker 2: emotional battle.
- 4:12Speaker 3: Bills create a lot of anxiety in me, just the
- 4:15Speaker 3: whole making ends meet, living paycheck to paycheck. I used
- 4:19Speaker 3: to say I could squeeze two pennies together and get
- 4:22Speaker 3: another halfpenny to come out of it. I mean, I
- 4:24Speaker 3: was was frugal and I was smart with what we
- 4:28Speaker 3: had each month. But every time tax season rolled around,
- 4:32Speaker 3: I would lose sleep and I would worry, and I
- 4:34Speaker 3: would wonder do we have enough tax detections? If we
- 4:38Speaker 3: don't and we have to pay the irs something, how
- 4:42Speaker 3: are we going to do that where's that money going
- 4:43Speaker 3: to come from? And it would just consume me, like
- 4:46Speaker 3: consume my thoughts. And I finally had to ask myself
- 4:51Speaker 3: if the worst case scenario happened and everything fell apart,
- 4:55Speaker 3: where would God be? And the Resurrection Hope has taught
- 4:59Speaker 3: me to say that even if we're destitute, even if
- 5:03Speaker 3: I can't pay that bill, even if all hope is lost,
- 5:07Speaker 3: I know that God can raise it again. Resurrection hope
- 5:11Speaker 3: doesn't promise me an easy life, but it does promise
- 5:15Speaker 3: me God's presence, which then settles my anxious heart.
- 5:19Speaker 2: I like your attitude of even if because most of
- 5:23Speaker 2: us are living in the midst of some kind of
- 5:27Speaker 2: even if. Right now. It's that tension between knowing that
- 5:32Speaker 2: Jesus said, in this world you will experience trouble, but
- 5:36Speaker 2: take heart because I've overcome the world. That reminds me
- 5:40Speaker 2: that resurrection hope means the darkness is not permanent. You
- 5:45Speaker 2: and I did an episode about a year ago about
- 5:49Speaker 2: what it must have been like to be the Disciples
- 5:53Speaker 2: on Friday when Jesus was killed, on Saturday when they
- 5:57Speaker 2: were all alone without their masters, and then Sunday when
- 6:02Speaker 2: Jesus was resurrected. The disciples thought that Saturday's silence must
- 6:06Speaker 2: have meant that God was done, but he was really
- 6:09Speaker 2: working behind the scenes. And I think that's a perspective
- 6:12Speaker 2: for all of us to keep, because in the midst
- 6:15Speaker 2: of even if it can feel like God is silent,
- 6:18Speaker 2: it can feel like God's not working. It can feel
- 6:21Speaker 2: like maybe we got it all wrong, or it could
- 6:24Speaker 2: feel like maybe God's not even there anymore. I remember
- 6:27Speaker 2: feeling way down over a decade ago by depression, and
- 6:32Speaker 2: that was such a dark season in my life, and
- 6:36Speaker 2: there was so much shame attached to it because I'm
- 6:39Speaker 2: the doctor. I've treated thousands and thousands of patients in
- 6:43Speaker 2: my career with depression, and yet there was shame because
- 6:47Speaker 2: I didn't keep depression from coming upon me, when in reality,
- 6:51Speaker 2: we can all be targets of depression, anxiety, fear, discouragement,
- 6:56Speaker 2: and most definitely shame. And I remember when I was
- 7:00Speaker 2: physically bedridden for five months. That's when the depression really
- 7:04Speaker 2: got a foothold, and I remember thinking, if this is
- 7:07Speaker 2: going to be my life, I'm not sure that I
- 7:10Speaker 2: want to continue living because it was so dark and
- 7:13Speaker 2: I could see no way out of my own making.
- 7:17Speaker 2: But God reminded me that his light breaks through any
- 7:22Speaker 2: darkness that I feel. But it's a matter of will
- 7:25Speaker 2: we stay there in His presence even while we're waiting
- 7:31Speaker 2: to see that resurrection hope. Yeah, Friends, we'll continue our
- 7:35Speaker 2: conversation about how Easter transforms our mental and emotional battle
- 7:40Speaker 2: by living in resurrection hope after we take this brief
- 7:42Speaker 2: word from our sponsor. Welcome back to your hope filled perspective. Today,
- 7:50Speaker 2: Jessica and I are talking about how Easter transforms our
- 7:54Speaker 2: mental and emotional battle by living in resurrection Hope. This
- 7:59Speaker 2: makes me think about shame. Shame is one of those
- 8:02Speaker 2: things that most of us carry. Maybe we made a
- 8:05Speaker 2: mistake and we called ourself a mistake. Maybe someone else
- 8:11Speaker 2: is a master at laying shame on our shoulders. And
- 8:14Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Jessica, but shame grows really heavy.
- 8:19Speaker 2: But the empty tomb of Easter is really in many
- 8:23Speaker 2: ways like God's megaphone, saying shame doesn't get to define you.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Jesus didn't walk out of that grave dragging your failures
- 8:32Speaker 2: behind him.
- 8:33Speaker 3: That picture that you just painted makes me think of
- 8:36Speaker 3: a song that we sing in church. There's a part
- 8:38Speaker 3: that talks about how Jesus broke our heavy chains and
- 8:42Speaker 3: left them in the grave. Now, if he left them there,
- 8:45Speaker 3: then why do we go back in and pick them
- 8:47Speaker 3: up again? Once we receive Christ as our savior and Lord,
- 8:51Speaker 3: he makes us new. Shame and sin don't determine who
- 8:55Speaker 3: we are. Instead, we're beloved by God, chosen by Him
- 9:00Speaker 3: for a purpose.
- 9:01Speaker 2: Friends, if you didn't hear the episode that we recorded
- 9:04Speaker 2: last year about the bleakness of good Friday, the wilderness
- 9:09Speaker 2: of Saturday, and the victory of Sunday, I would encourage
- 9:13Speaker 2: you to go back to listen to it. We'll put
- 9:15Speaker 2: that episode in the show notes. But in thinking about
- 9:17Speaker 2: that episode and then what we wanted to share with
- 9:21Speaker 2: you this year, Resurrection Hope speaks to discouragement, and it
- 9:26Speaker 2: tells us that God writes better endings, and every disappointment
- 9:31Speaker 2: is just Friday, but every breakthrough is Sunday. Easter transforms
- 9:37Speaker 2: our mental and emotional battles with discouragement because Resurrection Hope
- 9:42Speaker 2: teaches us to wait for God's ability to turn things
- 9:46Speaker 2: into new beginnings.
- 9:48Speaker 3: I love that so much. In fact, I have a
- 9:51Speaker 3: quote by C. S. Lewis hanging on my wall in
- 9:53Speaker 3: my living room. That says that you can't go back
- 9:55Speaker 3: and change the beginning, but you can change the ending,
- 9:58Speaker 3: and it reminds me that I'm gonna make mistakes. I'm
- 10:01Speaker 3: we always want to do over right, but in reality
- 10:04Speaker 3: we don't really get doovers because what's done is done.
- 10:07Speaker 3: But we can at this moment change how the ending
- 10:10Speaker 3: is going to be. Whether it's okay, I chose bitterness
- 10:14Speaker 3: over forgiveness. Oh well, then from this point on, I'm
- 10:16Speaker 3: going to choose forgiveness. I'm going to work on forgiveness,
- 10:19Speaker 3: because forgiveness this can be hard, right, It's easy to
- 10:24Speaker 3: stay in that bitter place, but forgiveness that's where the
- 10:28Speaker 3: freedom comes. And this quote you can't go back and
- 10:31Speaker 3: change the beginning, but you can change the ending reminds
- 10:34Speaker 3: me that because of the hope I have in Jesus
- 10:37Speaker 3: Christ and what his resurrection accomplished, I can have a
- 10:41Speaker 3: different and better ending. We can remember that if the
- 10:45Speaker 3: grave didn't stop Jesus, our discouragement can't stop the story
- 10:50Speaker 3: God is writing in our lives.
- 10:53Speaker 2: That's so good, Okay, So let's turn our attention to
- 10:58Speaker 2: bringing resurrection hope into our daily rhythms now as we
- 11:02Speaker 2: talked about before the break, so often we appreciate Easter
- 11:07Speaker 2: on the day, but by the time Monday rolls around,
- 11:11Speaker 2: we're back to living the same life that we lived
- 11:13Speaker 2: before Good Friday. So let's bring that resurrection hope into
- 11:16Speaker 2: our daily rhythms. The first thing I would suggest is
- 11:20Speaker 2: to rehearse the resurrection every morning, not just on Easter.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Take every sunrise as a mini resurrection power. When you
- 11:30Speaker 2: wake up, whisper something like the same power that raised
- 11:35Speaker 2: Jesus lives in me today. What this does is it
- 11:39Speaker 2: helps reset your mental lens inside your brain. Instead of
- 11:43Speaker 2: waking up thinking I'm overwhelmed. What if we started the
- 11:47Speaker 2: day thinking God has equipped me for anything I will
- 11:50Speaker 2: face today.
- 11:51Speaker 3: That's powerful. I love the idea of when we see
- 11:54Speaker 3: a sunrise to remember that Easter sunrise. Long time ago,
- 11:58Speaker 3: I used to wake up so early and my husband
- 12:01Speaker 3: and I would take our little family to sunrise service. Well,
- 12:04Speaker 3: you know, in the spring, it's like seven am, but
- 12:07Speaker 3: at five am, I'm usually sleeping. But what if what
- 12:10Speaker 3: if this year we made a point to see the
- 12:13Speaker 3: sunrise and to remember, Wow, that that same power lives
- 12:18Speaker 3: in me. I think it would change. I think it
- 12:21Speaker 3: would really change our everyday moments now. Second, we want
- 12:25Speaker 3: to fight thoughts with truth and not willpower. Will power
- 12:28Speaker 3: says try harder, or pull yourself up by the bootstraps,
- 12:32Speaker 3: or keep a stiff upper lip. And maybe where you're
- 12:35Speaker 3: from you have different sayings that tell you to just
- 12:39Speaker 3: buck up right or as my sometimes I would tell
- 12:42Speaker 3: my kids, suck it up, buttercup. But you see, resurrection
- 12:46Speaker 3: Hope says to lean on the Holy Spirit and sewod. Corinthians,
- 12:51Speaker 3: Chapter twelve, verse ten says that is why, for Christ's sake,
- 12:54Speaker 3: I delight in weaknesses and insults, in hardships, in persecutions,
- 13:00Speaker 3: in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
- 13:05Speaker 3: You see, will power is relying on our own strength. Right,
- 13:08Speaker 3: this verse that Paul writes talks about celebrating our weaknesses,
- 13:13Speaker 3: not because we're weak, but because we're relying on God's
- 13:17Speaker 3: strength and power. So in that thought, that depressed thought,
- 13:21Speaker 3: or that anxious thought comes, we can respond with resurrection
- 13:25Speaker 3: truth that if Jesus can conquer death, he can handle
- 13:28Speaker 3: the fears, anxiety, and depression that we're dealing with today.
- 13:34Speaker 2: The third recommendation I would make is to let God
- 13:38Speaker 2: rewrite the meaning of our pain. The Cross was the
- 13:43Speaker 2: worst tragedy in history, yet God made it the doorway
- 13:49Speaker 2: for us to have victory. I talk about sacred scars
- 13:52Speaker 2: and how God doesn't waste our pain, and I think
- 13:56Speaker 2: it's so important for us to remember that our pain
- 13:59Speaker 2: is not pointless or purposeless. Resurrection hope looks for God's
- 14:04Speaker 2: fingerprints even in the places we would rather escape. Quite frankly,
- 14:10Speaker 2: our pain can help someone else see purpose in their pain.
- 14:15Speaker 2: Send Corinthians two three through five reminds us Praise be
- 14:19Speaker 2: to the God and Father of our Lord, Jesus Christ,
- 14:22Speaker 2: the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort,
- 14:26Speaker 2: who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we
- 14:30Speaker 2: can comfort those in trouble with the comfort we ourselves
- 14:34Speaker 2: received from God. For just as we share abundantly in
- 14:37Speaker 2: the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ.
- 14:42Speaker 2: So resurrection hope looks for God's fingerprints even in those
- 14:47Speaker 2: places we would rather avoid.
- 14:49Speaker 3: Let's just sit here for that, with that, just for
- 14:51Speaker 3: a moment. Resurrection Hope looks for God's fingerprints even in
- 14:57Speaker 3: places we'd rather avoid. I don't know about you, but
- 14:59Speaker 3: I like to run away from pain. And what this
- 15:02Speaker 3: is really calling us to is to sit in our
- 15:06Speaker 3: pain with God looking for evidence of him. And I
- 15:10Speaker 3: can promise you that even if it doesn't look like it,
- 15:12Speaker 3: he's there. So forth, let's expect God to bring life
- 15:17Speaker 3: from dead places. Many of us carry secrets in our
- 15:22Speaker 3: hearts where we've given up hope. Maybe it's that relationship,
- 15:26Speaker 3: Maybe it could be our emotional health. We've been struggling
- 15:30Speaker 3: for so long that we think that, well, this just
- 15:32Speaker 3: must be my life. Or maybe we've lost our purpose
- 15:36Speaker 3: and we've given up that. Well, I guess I'm just
- 15:39Speaker 3: going to exist. I don't really have purpose. But God
- 15:42Speaker 3: brings dead things back to life, and I love the
- 15:46Speaker 3: truth found in Isaiah forty three to nineteen. It says
- 15:49Speaker 3: that see, I am doing a new thing. Now it
- 15:52Speaker 3: springs up. Do you not perceive it? I am making
- 15:56Speaker 3: a way in the wilderness and streams in the wasteland.
- 16:00Speaker 3: God is making a way, and that means he's working
- 16:04Speaker 3: where we cannot see him. He's working in our hearts
- 16:07Speaker 3: and in our perspectives. He's working where we feel dry
- 16:12Speaker 3: and where we feel like there's barrenness and there's no
- 16:16Speaker 3: place there's absolutely no way that life could grow. He's
- 16:19Speaker 3: making a way to bring life back. Michelle Ware, have
- 16:23Speaker 3: you've seen God bring life back to your heart? Well?
- 16:27Speaker 2: If I go back to that story that I was
- 16:29Speaker 2: sharing about the darkest time in my life, what I
- 16:34Speaker 2: didn't share is that when I felt so desperate, I
- 16:38Speaker 2: was very honest with God and I told him I
- 16:41Speaker 2: didn't like the position I was in. I didn't want
- 16:45Speaker 2: this to be my life. I didn't want this to
- 16:48Speaker 2: be my experience. But if I had to go through it,
- 16:53Speaker 2: I wanted it to count for something. I wanted something
- 16:56Speaker 2: good to come out of it. Being on bed rest
- 17:00Speaker 2: for five months and not being able to be the
- 17:03Speaker 2: doctor and help other people was really difficult because I
- 17:07Speaker 2: found myself even asking, so what purpose do I have
- 17:11Speaker 2: if I can't be that person, if I can't do
- 17:14Speaker 2: what I know I was called to do, what value
- 17:18Speaker 2: do I have? Out of that desperate time came my
- 17:23Speaker 2: book Hope Prevails, Insights from a doctor's personal journey through depression.
- 17:28Speaker 2: The Lord taught me so much about himself. The Lord
- 17:33Speaker 2: revealed lies that I had been believing about myself, and
- 17:38Speaker 2: he showed me that when we're addressing emotional battles, like anxiety, depression, discouragement, shame.
- 17:47Speaker 2: We cannot afford to discount the spiritual aspect because we
- 17:52Speaker 2: live in a physical world, but there's also a spiritual
- 17:55Speaker 2: world going on, and we don't wrestle against flesh and blood.
- 17:59Speaker 2: And I can tell you that had I not gone
- 18:03Speaker 2: through that dark time of depression, that book was already
- 18:07Speaker 2: contracted before I fell into the pit. So had I
- 18:12Speaker 2: not experienced the darkness of depression, that book would have
- 18:16Speaker 2: been very cold and sterile and clinical and quite frankly,
- 18:21Speaker 2: probably not very helpful.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Right.
- 18:23Speaker 2: But because I went through it, and because the Lord
- 18:26Speaker 2: opened my eyes to aspects of the healing that I
- 18:30Speaker 2: hadn't previously considered. Now when people read it, I get
- 18:34Speaker 2: emails or I get reviews of people saying, you can
- 18:37Speaker 2: tell she's gone through it, because it's like she's reading
- 18:40Speaker 2: my mail. And that is the good that came out
- 18:43Speaker 2: of a very dark time. That was when God brought
- 18:47Speaker 2: life back, because he answered my prayer and he brought
- 18:51Speaker 2: good out of it. But it doesn't mean that we
- 18:54Speaker 2: want to experience pain. But it goes back to what
- 18:57Speaker 2: we were saying earlier, just about look looking for God's
- 19:00Speaker 2: fingerprints in the midst of the desert. Can you share
- 19:05Speaker 2: a time when you let God rewrite your pain?
- 19:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I was sitting here listening to you share
- 19:10Speaker 3: your story, and I was thinking about how God really
- 19:14Speaker 3: doesn't waste anything if we give it to him. Right,
- 19:19Speaker 3: we could just hold our pain and keep it close
- 19:22Speaker 3: to our heart and never let him have access. But
- 19:24Speaker 3: then then we never experience his comfort, and then we're
- 19:29Speaker 3: not able to comfort others. I was sitting here thinking
- 19:32Speaker 3: about my issues, and I call it issues because it
- 19:36Speaker 3: was really an unhealthy relationship with people's approval and chasing
- 19:41Speaker 3: after it like chasing the wind. And let me tell
- 19:44Speaker 3: you what, you can't catch the wind, and you're never
- 19:45Speaker 3: going to catch people's approval. And yet I desperately wanted
- 19:49Speaker 3: people's approval, desperately wanted people's approval so much so then
- 19:53Speaker 3: I'm going to age myself here. But there was a
- 19:56Speaker 3: character a Gumby, and he could.
- 20:00Speaker 2: You might have to explain Gumby for our younger audience.
- 20:04Speaker 3: Well, Gumby was a character that you could just twist
- 20:07Speaker 3: his arms and twist his legs to whatever shape you
- 20:10Speaker 3: wanted him to be. I would do that to myself
- 20:13Speaker 3: in order to gain someone's approval. Two things happened. Number One,
- 20:17Speaker 3: it created a lot of pain because no matter how
- 20:19Speaker 3: much I changed myself or how perfect I tried to be,
- 20:22Speaker 3: I still experienced rejection. And then secondly, it really made
- 20:26Speaker 3: me lose sight of who God intended me to be
- 20:31Speaker 3: and wanted me to be. And so I like to
- 20:34Speaker 3: say this that I spent probably my twenties, my first
- 20:39Speaker 3: we'll just say, thirty years of my life trying to
- 20:41Speaker 3: figure out what people wanted from me. And then there
- 20:44Speaker 3: was a time where I was so tangled up that
- 20:46Speaker 3: God would and it hurt. I'm just going to say,
- 20:48Speaker 3: it really hurt to be rejected, and it would hurt
- 20:52Speaker 3: to almost make myself invisible in order to be perfect
- 20:57Speaker 3: for whoever's approval I was chasing after. But the true
- 21:01Speaker 3: pain ended up is because I started expecting that God
- 21:05Speaker 3: needed me to be perfect, and then I would place
- 21:09Speaker 3: all these expectations on myself, and then I would feel
- 21:12Speaker 3: further and further away from God. And if there isn't
- 21:15Speaker 3: that the most painful thing that I think I've ever
- 21:17Speaker 3: experienced is probably when I felt rejected by God. And
- 21:22Speaker 3: instead what he showed me is that I was actually
- 21:26Speaker 3: rejecting myself, and in that rejecting of myself, I was
- 21:32Speaker 3: pulling myself further away from Him. So when I really
- 21:36Speaker 3: realized the power that rejection had over me and how
- 21:39Speaker 3: it was really harming my relationship with the Lord, he
- 21:43Speaker 3: took me on this journey of about four to five
- 21:46Speaker 3: months where he just peeled the layers of scar tissue
- 21:51Speaker 3: off my heart. And that hurts, right, that's painful. But
- 21:56Speaker 3: what came out of it was this new understanding of rejection,
- 22:01Speaker 3: and this new understanding of placing God's approval is my
- 22:05Speaker 3: top priority. And when I do that, I'm able to
- 22:08Speaker 3: live this open, armed life towards people who could approve
- 22:14Speaker 3: of me or reject me. And in so doing, I've
- 22:17Speaker 3: been able to write a book reframing rejection. How looking
- 22:21Speaker 3: through a different lens changes everything, because if we're looking
- 22:26Speaker 3: at things through biblical worldview that isn't clouded by our
- 22:30Speaker 3: opinion or our pain, we're then able to see people's
- 22:34Speaker 3: approval and rejection through completely different lens, where no longer
- 22:38Speaker 3: do we have to experience that life altering pain. That
- 22:42Speaker 3: can change how we relate to others, ourselves, and God.
- 22:45Speaker 3: And I've been able to comfort others. I've been able
- 22:48Speaker 3: to walk other people through friendship breakdowns, parent and child relationships,
- 22:53Speaker 3: and it's been a glorious witness of God's work in
- 22:57Speaker 3: my life of where I experienced comfort just like Sewod
- 23:01Speaker 3: Corinthian says, and then I've been able to comfort others.
- 23:06Speaker 2: That is resurrection hope. That is getting through the darkness
- 23:11Speaker 2: of Friday, walking through the wilderness of Saturday, and getting
- 23:17Speaker 2: to the victory of Sunday.
- 23:18Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:19Speaker 2: Friends, we're going to take a short break for a
- 23:21Speaker 2: brief word from our sponsor, but when we return, we'll
- 23:24Speaker 2: talk about how Easter transforms our mental and emotional battles
- 23:28Speaker 2: because of resurrection Hope. We'll be right back. Before the break,
- 23:36Speaker 2: we talked about rehearsing the Resurrection every morning. We talked
- 23:41Speaker 2: about fighting our thoughts with truth versus willpower. We talked
- 23:46Speaker 2: about letting God rewrite the meaning of our pain and
- 23:50Speaker 2: expecting God to bring life from dead places.
- 23:53Speaker 3: And as we wrap up this episode, we want you
- 23:56Speaker 3: to remember that resurrection hope is not a feeling and
- 24:00Speaker 3: it's not the result of good mental health days. It's
- 24:03Speaker 3: the victory in Jesus that's what enables us to tap
- 24:08Speaker 3: into the strength of this kind of hope that is
- 24:11Speaker 3: strong enough to take on our emotional and mental battles.
- 24:15Speaker 2: It's the unshakeable truth that Jesus wins and darkness doesn't.
- 24:20Speaker 2: Anxiety doesn't, depression doesn't, shame doesn't. Easter is not a
- 24:25Speaker 2: holiday we recognize once a year, friends, It's actually the
- 24:29Speaker 2: reality that we live in, and if we allow it to,
- 24:32Speaker 2: it can transform every inner battle, not by removing the struggle,
- 24:37Speaker 2: but by giving us a power greater than a struggle.
- 24:41Speaker 2: Let's remember Romans eight eleven. And if the spirit of
- 24:44Speaker 2: Him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you,
- 24:48Speaker 2: he who raised Christ from the dead will also give
- 24:51Speaker 2: life to your martdal bodies because of his spirit who
- 24:54Speaker 2: lives in you, jes If a listener of viewers resonating
- 24:57Speaker 2: with our conversation today, what hopefield you want to leave
- 25:01Speaker 2: them with?
- 25:01Speaker 3: I would love to encourage you to step into that resurrection. Hope. Anxiety, depression,
- 25:08Speaker 3: our emotional and mental battles, they keep us locked in
- 25:12Speaker 3: that silence of Saturday we referenced in our episode a
- 25:15Speaker 3: year ago. But God is calling you out of the
- 25:19Speaker 3: darkness and into the light. But you've got to take
- 25:22Speaker 3: the first step, and sometimes when we're stuck in darkness,
- 25:26Speaker 3: the light seems really bright. But if you can just
- 25:30Speaker 3: take a baby step towards Jesus today to know that
- 25:33Speaker 3: you're not alone, that there's others who have left the
- 25:36Speaker 3: darkness behind and are now walking in that light. That
- 25:39Speaker 3: God's going to give you the strength to do it too,
- 25:42Speaker 3: and he'll be there to help you. He'll walk with
- 25:45Speaker 3: you every step of the way, and the fact that
- 25:48Speaker 3: he wins is an anchor thought that you can hold
- 25:52Speaker 3: on to.
- 25:53Speaker 2: Friends, let me pray for you as we close out
- 25:55Speaker 2: this episode. Father God, I just thank you for the
- 25:58Speaker 2: power of resurrection and hope. Lord, I thank you that
- 26:01Speaker 2: Easter is not just a holiday, it is a way
- 26:05Speaker 2: of life. If we will take our eyes off of
- 26:08Speaker 2: our dark situations and keep our focus on you, because
- 26:12Speaker 2: you are the light of the world. It's because of
- 26:16Speaker 2: Jesus's resurrection that we have hope. Lord, help each listener
- 26:20Speaker 2: and viewer to look for your fingerprints in the situations
- 26:23Speaker 2: they face today. Help them to remember that hope is
- 26:27Speaker 2: always present because you are still on your throne. You
- 26:31Speaker 2: the one who raised Jesus from the dead and raise
- 26:34Speaker 2: us out of the darkness. That we find ourselves in. Father,
- 26:38Speaker 2: thank you for the sacrifice of your only begotten son
- 26:42Speaker 2: so that we would be forgiven, so that we could
- 26:45Speaker 2: have a relationship with you, so that we could live
- 26:48Speaker 2: from a posture of resurrection hope in our everyday lives. Lord,
- 26:52Speaker 2: we love you, we praise you, we worship you, because
- 26:56Speaker 2: you are worthy. In Jesus name, I pray in I
- 27:00Speaker 2: hope that there was something in today's episode that resonated
- 27:03Speaker 2: with you. And if there was, or if you know
- 27:05Speaker 2: someone who's struggling with some form of mental or emotional darkness,
- 27:11Speaker 2: would you please consider sharing this episode with them so
- 27:14Speaker 2: that they too will have a biblically based hope filled perspective. Friends,
- 27:18Speaker 2: we would love to hear from you. We'd love to
- 27:20Speaker 2: know which episodes resonate with you most and what other
- 27:24Speaker 2: topics you would like us to consider. You can contact
- 27:27Speaker 2: us through the contact button on my website, Doctor michelleb
- 27:30Speaker 2: dot com. We look forward to being with you for
- 27:33Speaker 2: another episode again next week, but until then, it's my
- 27:37Speaker 2: prayer for you that you live in resurrection hope and
- 27:40Speaker 2: that as a result of that, you have a hope
- 27:43Speaker 2: filled week.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Depression is now our greatest epidemic worldwide, greater than heart disease, cancer,
- 27:52Speaker 1: and aids all put together. If you have looked for
- 27:55Speaker 1: help with depression, you have found that there's a scarcity
- 27:59Speaker 1: of biblically based resources that identifies the spiritual component that
- 28:03Speaker 1: will actually help with the depression and also will help
- 28:07Speaker 1: the loved ones who are trying to support the ones
- 28:09Speaker 1: who are depressed. Over her thirty year career, doctor Benkson
- 28:13Speaker 1: has treated thousands of individuals with depression and has even
- 28:16Speaker 1: suffered from it herself. Because of her suffering, she understands
- 28:20Speaker 1: the need to address the spiritual dimension of depression along
- 28:23Speaker 1: with the physiological and emotional components. Doctor Benkson has written
- 28:28Speaker 1: an award winning book, Hope Prevails, Insights from a doctor's
- 28:32Speaker 1: personal journey through depression. For she shares with us her
- 28:35Speaker 1: own experiences, and she combines decades of professional expertise in
- 28:39Speaker 1: mental health with her personal insights so she can help
- 28:42Speaker 1: us overcome depression. Script Jennifer Strickland, author of Beautiful Lies,
- 28:48Speaker 1: had this to say about Hope Prevail's Hope Prevails is
- 28:51Speaker 1: a treasure trove of scripture, music, and medicine for the soul.
- 28:55Speaker 1: This book shares truth upon truth for anyone encountering the
- 29:00Speaker 1: obscurity of depression. Is a very important work that should
- 29:04Speaker 1: be held in the highest regard in any family library.
- 29:07Speaker 1: Most of all, it is honest. Michelle genuinely opens up
- 29:11Speaker 1: a window of her heart, shamelessly revealing her own darkest
- 29:15Speaker 1: hours in order to shine at light of hope for
- 29:18Speaker 1: you and me. If you or anyone you love touch
- 29:21Speaker 1: even the fringe of depression, I highly recommend this work
- 29:25Speaker 1: as a key doorway to your journey towards joy, peace
- 29:29Speaker 1: in the full life we can have in Christ. Hope
- 29:32Speaker 1: Prevails is available from Amazon dot com and other fine
- 29:36Speaker 1: online retailers, or your website at doctor michelb dot com.
- 29:42Speaker 1: You can obtain your copy today and begin your healing
- 29:45Speaker 1: journey from depression. Thank you for joining doctor Banks and
- 29:53Speaker 1: to your hope build perspective. We hope you are encouraged
- 29:56Speaker 1: by her authenticity, vulnerability, and bibli truths. If you enjoy
- 30:01Speaker 1: today's conversation. When you take a moment right now, open
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- 30:11Speaker 1: podcast is best enjoyed with friends, so tell a friend
- 30:14Speaker 1: and click share in your podcast app. And send a
- 30:17Speaker 1: friend our link to share hope with them. If you
- 30:20Speaker 1: have a comment, question, or suggest a topic for a
- 30:23Speaker 1: future show, reach out to our staff at info at
- 30:26Speaker 1: Hope Prevails dot org. For additional resources. Information about doctor
- 30:30Speaker 1: Bankson's books where free downloads, or to contact her to
- 30:34Speaker 1: speak at your next event, please visit doctor Mishelbe dot com.
- 30:39Speaker 1: Until next time, May you have a hope filled week.
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