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Go Low - Collin Morikawa OUTLASTS Scottie Scheffler & Rory McIlroy to win Pebble Beach Pro-AM · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume, What is going on everybody, John Middlecoff and
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Speaker 1: a little Go Low podcast.
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Speaker 2: Here's the deal.
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Speaker 1: We have separated the golf podcast.
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Speaker 2: From the football podcast.
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Speaker 1: We've been cross pollinating them and I said, you know what,
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Speaker 1: let's separate it. So we have a this is a
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Speaker 1: new audio feed. We have a YouTube channel that is
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Speaker 1: just gonna be golf. We're gonna separate the two. So
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Speaker 1: today this is going on. I'm technically on vacation this week.
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Speaker 1: Vacation should be strong. I'm at home with my child
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Speaker 1: and my wife. But it was like, you know what,
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Speaker 1: lots happened, So let's just record a podcast, a Go
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Speaker 1: Low podcast. Anthony Kim Rory Scotti, Tiger spoke today some
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Speaker 1: some riv bets for the weekend. But that will be
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Speaker 1: the game plan today. But this is the podcast, or
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Speaker 1: this is the feed where all the golf content is
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Speaker 1: gonna live. So and the YouTube channel, it just type
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Speaker 1: in Golo my name and that'll pop up as well.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to do some on course videos throughout
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Speaker 1: the summer. If I ever get it back to the
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Speaker 1: golf course again, please God get me back. Uh. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: so that will be the game plan. We will also
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Speaker 1: do mail bag questions, not today, but at Golo Pod.
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Speaker 1: At Golo Pod is the Instagram, so I separate. I
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Speaker 1: have a separate Instagram account just from my normal Instagram
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Speaker 1: account because that's where people for football stuff and I try,
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Speaker 1: I try to separate it out. So at Golo Pod
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Speaker 1: will be my Instagram. Fire in those dms, anything golf related,
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Speaker 1: and we will answer them here throughout the year, and
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Speaker 1: the game plan will be we'll just start banging out
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Speaker 1: these podcasts moving forward throughout the golf season, well being
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis next week for the Combine. So about to figure
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Speaker 1: out if I do a if I do a riv
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Speaker 1: reaction might do one Sunday afternoon, we'll see.
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Speaker 2: I guess a family coming into town. But that's a
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Speaker 2: fluid situation.
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Speaker 1: But at Golopod will be the Instagram. This is the
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Speaker 1: audio feed. And let's talk Anthony Kim. I did not
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Speaker 1: expect to start with this, but Tiger Woods was asked
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Speaker 1: about it this morning and gave a pretty I thought,
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Speaker 1: powerful response, a well thought out response, and I think he,
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of summed up what we all were thinking.
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Speaker 1: It was a pretty powerful moment watching Anthony Kim and
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Speaker 1: for some of you that live on the East Coast.
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Speaker 1: It happened in the middle of the night for me.
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Speaker 1: I think he finished at like eleven thirty. Now, granted,
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Speaker 1: when you have a you know, four and a half
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Speaker 1: week old, you don't sleep much. So it was right
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Speaker 1: in my wheelhouse. I was laying there in bed, saw
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Speaker 1: on social media, flipped it on and watched the laste
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Speaker 1: several holes. It was electric. It was awesome, and I
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Speaker 1: think on the most basic level, before we dive into
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Speaker 1: the contacts and everything, it was just a really cool,
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Speaker 1: pure moment. And I know we did a deal last
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Speaker 1: year with liv It was cool going to the tournament
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Speaker 1: with Colin. I mean, Keopka came up and talked to us.
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Speaker 1: And when you're at the event, it was you know,
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Speaker 1: you got Rom walking around, Bryson walking around, Phil walking
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Speaker 1: around DJ, you know, very prominent players. The in person
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Speaker 1: experience is cool. I've never the events don't matter, like
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Speaker 1: winning those events for Brooks, Koepka or Bright it doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean anything right and clearly fans aren't consuming it in
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Speaker 1: terms of viewers. But like there is no disputing I mean,
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Speaker 1: Bryson and Rom are two of the best four or
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Speaker 1: five players in the world, and that's what made Anthony
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Speaker 1: Kim's win so incredible. He was paired with those guys
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Speaker 1: at an event which is clearly the signature event of
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Speaker 1: the Live tour. They're getting like one hundred thousand people
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Speaker 1: on given days and it was packed and he fucking
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Speaker 1: drubbed him. Anthony Kim on to I mean, it was
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Speaker 1: Saturday for us, but Sunday for them because out of
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Speaker 1: they're playing four rounds, shot nine under, Bryson shot two
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Speaker 1: over and Rom shot wonder. He beat Bryson by eleven strokes.
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Speaker 2: He beat Rom by eight.
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Speaker 1: He was five down to start the day. He boat
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Speaker 1: raced them both. So to me, part of the moment
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Speaker 1: was clearly his comeback. You look at his face. You
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Speaker 1: can see cocaine destroyed his nose, his addiction, which he
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Speaker 1: has been very open about. I mean, he had not
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Speaker 1: played competitive goal for almost fifteen years, and like Tiger
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Speaker 1: talked about, he remembered when he broke on the scene,
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Speaker 1: Tiger was playing against him. Kidd was a rocket ship
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Speaker 1: and he was electric in terms of emotion and let's
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Speaker 1: face like, I was listening to No Laying Up podcast
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Speaker 1: and one of their guys was saying, he's like I
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Speaker 1: watched Scotty shoot like nine under and barely showed any emotion,
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Speaker 1: like didn't.
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Speaker 2: Give a shit.
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Speaker 1: You watch Rory and Scottie Birdie and eagle Holes like that,
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Speaker 1: just pretty unfazed most of these events. Colin Morrik Howis
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Speaker 1: shoots ten under on Saturday, It's like, yeah, pro golfer whatever.
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Speaker 1: And let's face it, most of these guys in this
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Speaker 1: day and age are so filthy rich. The emotion in
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Speaker 1: a lot of these events, non Majors or Ryder Cup
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Speaker 1: aren't exactly tiger fist pumping all over the place, and
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Speaker 1: I kind of miss that. It's why I've said forever,
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Speaker 1: whenever this reemergence comes of these tours, you got Patrick
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Speaker 1: Reid coming back is great for business. You need some villains.
5:48
Speaker 1: Bring Terrell Hatton back, bring you know, some some of
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Speaker 1: the crazy. You can't have everyone just all smiles, all
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Speaker 1: good guys. It becomes kind of boring. It's one thing
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Speaker 1: the NBA is lost. When I was a kid, they
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Speaker 1: had a lot of major wild cards who at any
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Speaker 1: given moment could do some crazy shit. The NBA had nutjobs.
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Speaker 1: It was great for business, you know why, because people cared.
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Speaker 1: People came in to see what is Rashid Wallace gonna
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Speaker 1: do today? What do you think Dennis Rodman's gonna do tonight?
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Speaker 1: Now everyone's filthy rich. It's so corporate. You can't even
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Speaker 1: get like a controversial.
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Speaker 2: Statement at anybody. It's like, that's kind of boring.
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Speaker 1: You need some curve balls. The NFL, luckily, because of
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Speaker 1: the nature of the sport, is gonna have some some
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Speaker 1: crazy guys and golf like part of the Live you know, fracture.
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Speaker 1: It took away the villains. And Anthony kim By no
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Speaker 1: means was a villain, but he was like this mysterious
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Speaker 1: figure who just disappears, who was a guy on Ryder cups,
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Speaker 1: on President's cups, who was just an electric factory from
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Speaker 1: a viewer standpoint, and it was just on and doesn't
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Speaker 1: come back to his late thirties, and you see him,
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Speaker 1: it's clear like the demons do not hide when you
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Speaker 1: look at his face, and he does not hide from them.
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Speaker 1: And for him to play against these guys, and I
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Speaker 1: mean he was just making putt after putt after putt,
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Speaker 1: going nuts with fist pumps and putting his arms up.
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Speaker 1: He was like, you just felt something emotionally, and one thing.
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Speaker 1: If sports are not moving you emotionally, they're just gonna
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Speaker 1: lose people, right, And I think golf is always battle
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Speaker 1: with that. It's a niche sport, and that's one thing
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Speaker 1: Tiger brought to the table emotionally. You always felt his presence,
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Speaker 1: especially when things were going well. And I watched this
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Speaker 1: last night again, can't sleep because there is no sleep
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Speaker 1: in my home anymore. Which maybe one day it'll come
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Speaker 1: back around. Is I watch Rick Shields, who I think
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Speaker 1: is like the original golf YouTuber. He was an international
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Speaker 1: guy from the UK. I think he did a deal
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with liv and he's played
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Speaker 1: with all these guys, and last year he played.
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Speaker 2: With Anthony Kim.
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Speaker 1: Now it was like an hour long YouTube video of
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Speaker 1: them playing eighteen holes, I think in Hong Kong, where
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Speaker 1: I think lives, playing next and it was just Anthony
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Speaker 1: Kim said something in that video that I thought was
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Speaker 1: pretty interesting. He's like, you know what, I bet I'm
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Speaker 1: a momentum player, like when things get going, I can
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Speaker 1: ride the wave like Scotty Scheffler, to me, is not
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Speaker 1: a momentum player. He's just a dominant player, like at
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Speaker 1: any given moment, he can just make a bunch of birdies.
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Speaker 1: A bogie doesn't derail him. He's unfazed by the ups
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Speaker 1: and downs of a golf tournament. It's why he's always
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Speaker 1: there at the end. Whether he starts slow or starts fast,
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Speaker 1: it's inevitable how it's gonna go right. I would say,
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Speaker 1: like Tommy Fleetwood, a lot of the are not momentum player.
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Speaker 1: Rory's a momentum guy. Phil Mickelson was a momentum guy.
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Speaker 1: Tiger was a lot like Scottie. He just he was
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Speaker 1: gonna keep swinging to the bitter end, like you can
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Speaker 1: tell when Rory's got it going, especially early in a
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Speaker 1: tournament like hop on that wave. Anthony Kim's a lot
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Speaker 1: like that. And he clearly got momentum at this course
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Speaker 1: in Australia, and then he just got laser you know,
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Speaker 1: red hot, red hot. You couldn't have been any hotter. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: Scotty could have been in his group and he might
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Speaker 1: have beat him. I mean, shooting nine under in that
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Speaker 1: environment was really he was making every put imaginable. You
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Speaker 1: never thought he was gonna miss, and it was just
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Speaker 1: really cool and powerful to watch. It was something that,
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Speaker 1: let's face it the last couple year. I mean, he
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Speaker 1: was shooting eighty in some of these events last year eighty,
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Speaker 1: which for me and you awsome round for these guys
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Speaker 1: is an embarrassment.
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Speaker 2: I mean it truly is. Now.
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Speaker 1: I don't think he touched the club for a long
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Speaker 1: period of time in his life, and one thing he
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Speaker 1: talked about with Rick Shields and I don't think he's
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Speaker 1: been sober that long. And part of the reason he
9:47
Speaker 1: got sober because not only could he not stop drinking
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Speaker 1: once he started, but it would morph into drugs and
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Speaker 1: clearly it's pretty again, pretty evident that cocaine was a
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Speaker 1: major drug a choice. And some of these stories come
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Speaker 1: out about him essentially blowing lines back when he was
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Speaker 1: playing on the PGA tour between holes at Augusta. I
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Speaker 1: didn't know of that. I mean, I knew he had issues,
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Speaker 1: but some of this information that has come out about
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Speaker 1: his struggle at the end of his time, and this
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Speaker 1: is like nine in twenty ten, was something I didn't
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Speaker 1: quite understand.
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Speaker 2: The depth of his issues.
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Speaker 1: And to now come out he's got a young daughter
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Speaker 1: and he's married, and it feels like he just kind
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Speaker 1: of got a shit together and to watch him play
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Speaker 1: and play against those guys.
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Speaker 2: I just don't think this It would have been.
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Speaker 1: A big deal no matter what tournament he would have
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Speaker 1: won on live, if he just would have won the tournament.
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Speaker 1: I think it's dramatically bigger that he's literally playing with
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Speaker 1: Bryson rum and kick the living you know what out
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Speaker 1: of them and.
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Speaker 2: Had to come story.
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Speaker 1: It's not like he had the lead and those guys
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Speaker 1: were chasing. He was down and he boat raced them
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Speaker 1: both honestly embarrassed them both and both of them. Bryson's
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Speaker 1: got no feel for the room. Like after the event,
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Speaker 1: everyone's you know, spraying water on him, celebrating with them.
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Speaker 1: Rom even waits to give him like a hug and
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Speaker 1: a handshake. Bryson sits there like, hey, you gotta sign
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Speaker 1: your scorecard. It's like Bryson, take a deep breath, go
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Speaker 1: to the clubhouse. Just let him have this moment for
11:19
Speaker 1: a minute, homie. You know, let's let's just let's just
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Speaker 1: back up and again Bryson. I enjoy him, and you
11:28
Speaker 1: talk about a guy who's really embraced the showman. But
11:31
Speaker 1: if it's not him, I don't think he's got a
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Speaker 1: great feel because that was like Bro back up, but
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Speaker 1: it was. It's one of the more out of left
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Speaker 1: field moments in a long time in golf, and a
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Speaker 1: lot of people have talked about this. This is not
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Speaker 1: an original thought. But obviously the Saudis have spent a
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Speaker 1: lot of money, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars
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Speaker 1: on the fills, on the ROMs, on the Koepka's, on
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Speaker 1: the DJs. This was they have not had a big
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Speaker 1: on the course moment yet. Like Joaquin Neeman winning events,
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Speaker 1: is doesn't matter, right, Rom hasn't won yet, but he
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Speaker 1: finished a second. Basically, it doesn't matter. Even if Rom
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Speaker 1: wins every event, it's not gonna matter. This mattered, This
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Speaker 1: really mattered for them.
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Speaker 2: And just for the golfing world.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was the number one story last weekend,
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Speaker 1: even over more Kawa, who won at Pebble for the
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Speaker 1: first time. You know, he hadn't won a tournament in
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Speaker 1: like two and a half years. He hadn't even finished
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Speaker 1: i think in the top ten in like almost a year.
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Speaker 1: He had been kind of in the wilderness. And he's
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Speaker 1: clearly when he's on one of our best American players,
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Speaker 1: better young players, for sure. But this was the story,
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Speaker 1: and it was powerful and cool to watch. It was
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Speaker 1: just there was something like genuine about this guy, his story,
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Speaker 1: coming out of the mud, coming out of the wilderness,
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Speaker 1: coming out of as he said, I could have easily
12:57
Speaker 1: been dead, easily been dead, and he's.
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Speaker 2: Still here and he wins.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know how necessarily Live capitalizes on this
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Speaker 1: and hopefully he can keep playing well. But I think
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Speaker 1: this makes it a lot more intriguing. Of as Brian
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Speaker 1: roll App has got Keopka back, has got you know,
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Speaker 1: Patrick Reid back, obviously they're circling Bryson to get back
13:20
Speaker 1: at the end of this year. Is I think you
13:23
Speaker 1: have to look at what can we do.
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Speaker 2: With this guy.
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Speaker 1: Is there a way that we could get this guy involved?
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Speaker 1: Because if you get this guy out at waste Management,
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Speaker 1: at Riviera, at you know, wherever, any of the big
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Speaker 1: I'm not even talking majors, I'm just talking about the
13:38
Speaker 1: big PGA tour events Bayhill, he would get I mean
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Speaker 1: an enormous amount of he'd be a rock star, he
13:46
Speaker 1: really would. And maybe he kind of likes the Live situation.
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Speaker 1: More can fly under the radar a little bit, but
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Speaker 1: immediately you know you got Tiger and roll App well
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Speaker 1: let's take a look at this. And I'm not acting
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Speaker 1: like he would come and just dombin. I mean, hell,
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Speaker 1: Kepka almost finished dfl at Tory Pines and then he
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Speaker 1: missed the cut waste management. So it's it's a different animal.
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Speaker 1: Scotti Scheffler shot sixty three. He I actually think in
16:29
Speaker 1: a weird way, he's more impressive when he doesn't win
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Speaker 1: some of these golf tournaments because those shoot like seventy two.
16:36
Speaker 1: I think he did that at Waste Management. His first
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Speaker 1: round was seventy three. At Pebble's first round with seventy two,
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Speaker 1: and you're like, you know what, this is gonna be
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Speaker 1: his week where he finishes like twenty sixth. He's just
16:45
Speaker 1: gonna have one of those weeks where it's just off
16:49
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden Sunday he's making the turn,
16:53
Speaker 1: you know, to go to the back nine, and you're like,
16:55
Speaker 1: he's like three shots back and he's five under on
16:58
Speaker 1: the day.
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Speaker 2: You're like, how does he do it?
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Speaker 1: And a couple of years ago, the comparisons to Tiger
17:05
Speaker 1: felt a little outrageous.
17:06
Speaker 2: It's like, come on, guys, he's not Tiger.
17:09
Speaker 1: There are clearly Tiger qualities of this, And to me,
17:11
Speaker 1: the most I would say similar quality that they both
17:15
Speaker 1: share is their competitive nature, Like they just don't ever
17:20
Speaker 1: like I don't have it this week. I'm just gonna
17:22
Speaker 1: finish fortieth. I am going downswing. Remember this was like
17:26
Speaker 1: five or six years ago. Tiger got a I think
17:29
Speaker 1: it was a ten, might have been a twelve. It's
17:32
Speaker 1: either ten or twelve. I think it was a He
17:35
Speaker 1: got a ten on hold twelve at Augusta, and he
17:39
Speaker 1: birdied after that hole five of the next six holes.
17:43
Speaker 1: I forget who it was. I don't know if it
17:45
Speaker 1: was Marcomera or Steve Elkington or someone like that. Tweeted.
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Speaker 1: That is the defining characteristic of Tiger's career, no matter
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Speaker 1: what happens at any moment, from when he was young
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Speaker 1: to win he's fifty years old. He never taps out.
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Speaker 1: He never loses focus of like I'm still competing. I'm
18:06
Speaker 1: still I'm gonna figure this shit out. If most people
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Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour, let alone, just casual golfers get
18:14
Speaker 1: a ten on a par three, whether you're playing a guster,
18:17
Speaker 1: whether you're playing in the local muni, you probably unravel, which
18:21
Speaker 1: is human nature and very understandable. Right, You're just like,
18:25
Speaker 1: I fuck, I'm out of it, to birdie five of
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Speaker 1: the next six holes, like defines Tiger Woods, Like that's
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Speaker 1: who he is. And to me, there's something with Scotty,
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Speaker 1: Like he starts the day on Sunday at Pebble like
18:37
Speaker 1: he's got no shot. All of a sudden, you look up.
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Speaker 1: He's eagle too, He's eagle six. He's just rattling off Birdie.
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Speaker 1: You're like this guy, man, this is incredible. He get
18:47
Speaker 1: the same shit at waste. It's like, oh, he just
18:48
Speaker 1: doesn't have it. Then all of a sudden on Sundays,
18:51
Speaker 1: roaring up the leaderboard, birdie, birdie, Birdie, eagle and you
18:55
Speaker 1: look at me, shot sixty four. And the crazy thing is,
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Speaker 1: with all of his wins over the last several years,
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Speaker 1: I feel like I texted this to a buddy the
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Speaker 1: other day. I think she easily could have like eight
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Speaker 1: to ten more wins. He probably doesn't think like that.
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Speaker 1: It's clearly not the way.
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Speaker 2: He's wired, Like he ain't living in the past.
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Speaker 1: But he's probably less than fifteen shots here or there
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Speaker 1: from having fifty percent more wins on the PGA Tour,
19:27
Speaker 1: like having thirty five wins. Right now, I think he's
19:29
Speaker 1: got what twenty, like easily having ten, who knows, maybe fifteen.
19:33
Speaker 1: I'm talking like a shot here or a shot there
19:36
Speaker 1: and he wins the tournament. I mean now, you could
19:39
Speaker 1: also argue guys like him, and definitely Rory falls into
19:43
Speaker 1: this category when he's so far out of it, like
19:46
Speaker 1: starts the day seven back, it really frees him up
19:50
Speaker 1: and he's the best player in the world by a mile.
19:52
Speaker 1: It's like Rory's probably the second best player.
19:55
Speaker 2: In the world.
19:56
Speaker 1: And when those guys get going, I mean, Rory way
19:59
Speaker 1: out of it. Sunday Pebble Beach shoots sixty four and
20:03
Speaker 1: I would say this about Rory at Pebble he shot
20:07
Speaker 1: seventy two on Saturday with a triple and a double,
20:11
Speaker 1: so like he finished T fourteen. To me, if he
20:17
Speaker 1: just pars those two holes like it's it's and one.
20:20
Speaker 1: I think he tripled whole four, which is a relatively
20:23
Speaker 1: easy hole. I did not see the highlights of what happened,
20:27
Speaker 1: but clearly it was an epic disaster. And I think
20:30
Speaker 1: he doubled eighteen that day, So to triple and double
20:34
Speaker 1: two holes where I don't know. I mean a lot
20:37
Speaker 1: of the field is definitely birding the hole. A large
20:43
Speaker 1: percentage of guys are burning both holes to go five
20:46
Speaker 1: under shows. And that was his first event. Unlike Scotty
20:49
Speaker 1: Who's you know one AMX, he finished third at Waste.
20:53
Speaker 1: He finished fourth at at and T I think The
20:57
Speaker 1: one thing the PGA Tour is missing which kind of
20:59
Speaker 1: fels inevitable, is these two guys paired in the last.
21:03
Speaker 2: Round of one of these tournaments.
21:05
Speaker 1: We said it forever with Tiger and Film. It just
21:07
Speaker 1: never really happened. It just it just it kind of
21:10
Speaker 1: never came together. They were clearly the best two guys.
21:14
Speaker 1: They were clearly rivals, but they didn't have that many
21:17
Speaker 1: rivalry moments. It's like Trevino and.
21:19
Speaker 2: Jack were rivals. They went head to head a lot.
21:23
Speaker 1: Now, it was a different world back in like the
21:25
Speaker 1: sixties and seventies, but clearly by the two thousands, you
21:31
Speaker 1: just had more competition. The fields were different. Now the
21:33
Speaker 1: fields have never been more different. That would be awesome
21:38
Speaker 1: even live technically just got that with Rom and Bryson
21:41
Speaker 1: in the last group. Now, both guys did not play
21:43
Speaker 1: well and Anthony Kim destroyed him, But the PJ Tour
21:47
Speaker 1: would gladly take just those two guys in the last
21:50
Speaker 1: group of a random tournament. It does not have to
21:53
Speaker 1: be I mean, they don't own the majors, but I mean,
21:55
Speaker 1: best case scenario, it would be like a gust or
21:57
Speaker 1: the US Open, those two guys here, I'd be cool,
22:00
Speaker 1: just the memorial, just you know, Bayhill, just an event
22:04
Speaker 1: that you know, you pick another big tournament throughout the year.
22:10
Speaker 1: So I think Scott he's over under wins this year.
22:15
Speaker 1: He's already got one. Would probably be like four and
22:17
Speaker 1: a half. He's the heavy favorite every tournament he enters in.
22:21
Speaker 1: When the dust settles, it takes a disastrous round for
22:25
Speaker 1: him not to win the tournament. And for him, a
22:28
Speaker 1: disastrous round is like seventy one seventy two, because he
22:33
Speaker 1: I mean, it's two Sundays so far, the last two
22:35
Speaker 1: weeks have been sixty four and sixty three. Now again,
22:39
Speaker 1: like I said, you feel a little free when you're
22:42
Speaker 1: out of it, and he's so good, no pressure, he
22:45
Speaker 1: can dominate it.
22:47
Speaker 2: He can shoot five under on the moon. But it's
22:51
Speaker 2: been remarkable to watch.
22:54
Speaker 1: And to me, the craziest part, and I would say
22:55
Speaker 1: this about Rory two, the drive that both these two
22:59
Speaker 1: guys have with I mean, Scotty's probably made a hundred
23:02
Speaker 1: million dollars the last twenty four months. Honestly, that number
23:04
Speaker 1: could be small, that could be I could be low.
23:07
Speaker 1: Could he is not driven by money, clear completely unphased
23:12
Speaker 1: by money, completely unphased by status, because he'd be like, ah,
23:17
Speaker 1: he might just come in, Like look at Xander, and
23:20
Speaker 1: I understand he's he's been banged up. Xander's made a
23:23
Speaker 1: ton of money the last couple of years, and what
23:25
Speaker 1: did he get off his back once a majors?
23:28
Speaker 2: You look him now, he's kind of just whatever, ho hum.
23:31
Speaker 1: And I'm not acting like Dander's not trying his hard
23:34
Speaker 1: new kid is Xander's focused as he was and driven
23:37
Speaker 1: as he was a couple of years ago. And I
23:39
Speaker 1: wouldn't even blame him, Like I'm not talking shit, I'm
23:41
Speaker 1: just saying it's human nature. You look at Scotty, unfazed
23:45
Speaker 1: by his child, unfazed by his money, unfazed by his fame.
23:49
Speaker 1: It's like every week stunned if Scotty doesn't win, and
23:52
Speaker 1: I are expect this about Rory too. Finally gets the
23:55
Speaker 1: monkey office back last year with the Masters, even admitted
23:58
Speaker 1: last week that he didn't mail it in, but wasn't
24:01
Speaker 1: quite as focused the rest of the year after that
24:03
Speaker 1: moment because early on he you know, he won Pebble,
24:06
Speaker 1: he won the Players, he wins the Masters, like the.
24:08
Speaker 2: Season was kind of made.
24:09
Speaker 1: Then kind of comes in like he was ready to roll.
24:13
Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna get We know Scotty is
24:16
Speaker 1: going nowhere. I think we're gonna get a big season
24:17
Speaker 1: from Rory And now he's got to keep our fingers
24:20
Speaker 1: crossed that those two guys in a big tournament. The
24:23
Speaker 1: players again, I would take just any random tournament they're
24:27
Speaker 1: both in. Get matched up together. Factor in and we
24:31
Speaker 1: see those guys in the final group. We can only hope.
24:35
Speaker 1: The start to the season has been a very very
24:38
Speaker 1: good year for US Team USA because got her Up
24:42
Speaker 1: has kind of established himself as like, I'm a major player.
24:46
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about him, I think he's from Jersey.
24:50
Speaker 1: He looks like he could have been a member of
24:52
Speaker 1: Tony Soprano's crew, Like he could have been hanging out
24:55
Speaker 1: with Chrissy, you know. Like he's kind of a little overweight,
24:58
Speaker 1: he's got the chain, looks like he could delete a
25:01
Speaker 1: twelve pack in the blink of an eye. Look, so
25:03
Speaker 1: you'd be a fun hang. Hits it like three hundred
25:06
Speaker 1: and sixty yards is open like Lee Trevino. Yet he
25:10
Speaker 1: hits his like power cut. He is just hits it
25:13
Speaker 1: really low. He's a really good player. I mean, obviously
25:17
Speaker 1: he wins the Sony Open, which is like, Okay, it's
25:19
Speaker 1: impressive win and then to win waste. Did get a
25:22
Speaker 1: little lucky that Hedeki just melted down. Really he was
25:25
Speaker 1: atrocious that whole day off the tee, but his short
25:28
Speaker 1: game kept him minute. Ended up pumping in the pews,
25:31
Speaker 1: then pumping in the water, but ultimately got her up.
25:36
Speaker 1: You know, for a guy that just missed the Ryder Cup,
25:39
Speaker 1: you could have made the argument like Chris got her up,
25:40
Speaker 1: should have been on the Ryder Cup. Didn't make it
25:43
Speaker 1: like feels like a lock now.
25:44
Speaker 2: To make the President's Cup, which which is cool.
25:48
Speaker 1: Morikawa, I mean was a guy who was running on
25:51
Speaker 1: fumes at the end of last year. There was a
25:53
Speaker 1: pretty controversial pick for the Ryder Cup, which I think
25:56
Speaker 1: if you could do that over again, he wouldn't have
25:58
Speaker 1: been there. And I was watching the Golf Channel today
26:02
Speaker 1: because Tiger talked they had on like his swing coach,
26:06
Speaker 1: and Colin was struggling on the range at the beginning
26:08
Speaker 1: of last week and clearly figured something out on Saturday
26:13
Speaker 1: when he shot ten under parr and to win that
26:16
Speaker 1: tournament the way he won it. I was watching on
26:19
Speaker 1: the plane flying at Los Angeles. The dudes hitting in
26:23
Speaker 1: the you know, the guy ahead of him hits it
26:28
Speaker 1: into the uh not in.
26:30
Speaker 2: The beach like the rocks.
26:32
Speaker 1: Like he wasn't on like sand, like beat sand. He
26:35
Speaker 1: was on like big rocks. And it was like a
26:38
Speaker 1: twenty thirty minute delay. More cow was sitting there in
26:40
Speaker 1: the middle of the fairway and just blast one onto
26:44
Speaker 1: the green and yeah, I guess it was a little
26:46
Speaker 1: off the green. Two putts and wins the tournament and
26:49
Speaker 1: then announces that he's having a baby, which is like Colin,
26:51
Speaker 1: good luck, buddy, enjoy your sleep now.
26:54
Speaker 2: Now he's so rich to probably have a night nurse
26:56
Speaker 2: and day nanny.
26:56
Speaker 1: But regardless, Joe Jude will be like, you better get one,
27:00
Speaker 1: you gotta focus, which I agree, Joe, trust me, I
27:04
Speaker 1: would love one right now. But regardless, more Cowell winning
27:09
Speaker 1: got her up winning justin Rose. Winning a couple of
27:11
Speaker 1: weeks ago at Torrey Pines was really cool. I mean,
27:14
Speaker 1: at his age to be as good as he is,
27:15
Speaker 1: how hard he works a lot of respect on that one,
27:18
Speaker 1: which is not great for us because he's just such
27:21
Speaker 1: a consistent member of the Ryder Cup team. Kind of
27:24
Speaker 1: feels like he might be a plane captain one day.
27:27
Speaker 1: Kind of like what Kegan could have done and probably
27:29
Speaker 1: should have done last year. It's been a very good
27:32
Speaker 1: start to the year. I mean these are you know,
27:34
Speaker 1: got her ups now, like a big time player on
27:37
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour. I mean, Morikowa is a multiple time
27:40
Speaker 1: Major winner, multiple time Ryder cupper. I mean he's he
27:42
Speaker 1: should be one of our best young players. I mean
27:45
Speaker 1: Justin Rose is of the last twenty of the Internet era.
27:51
Speaker 2: I mean he'd be a top ten player.
27:53
Speaker 1: Tiger, Phil Ernie's, Koepka's, Dustin Johnson's like Jordan Spieth, like
27:58
Speaker 1: Justin Rose is on that list. So to see him
28:02
Speaker 1: still playing at this level at that age. He went
28:05
Speaker 1: on rap reports that'd be Dan not Ian his I
28:11
Speaker 1: think it was a podcast and talked about his routine.
28:14
Speaker 2: It's like, God, this guy's a fucking grinder.
28:19
Speaker 1: This even Tiger today, they're like, Tiger, you come.
28:24
Speaker 2: He said. He didn't.
28:26
Speaker 1: Say he wouldn't play the Masters. I don't expect him
28:29
Speaker 1: to play in the Masters, but he left it kind
28:30
Speaker 1: of open ended. But the one thing he says, like,
28:33
Speaker 1: I'm still working to try to play. It's like Tiger,
28:35
Speaker 1: you're fifty years old. He was like a billion dollars.
28:37
Speaker 1: Why are you still grinding so hard to try to
28:39
Speaker 1: still play tournaments? Because that's just the way these guys
28:42
Speaker 1: are wired. Man, Like, when Tiger and Justin Rose and
28:45
Speaker 1: these guys got it into the business, these private jets
28:48
Speaker 1: and these pip payments and these equity, none of this
28:51
Speaker 1: shit existed. It wasn't as glamorous as it is now
28:55
Speaker 1: they got into it. I say those all the time
28:57
Speaker 1: about football coaches. If you're on Harball, if you're Andy Reid,
29:01
Speaker 1: if you're Bill Belichick, Like these guys got into football
29:05
Speaker 1: before people were making fifteen twenty million dollars a year.
29:09
Speaker 1: You know, twenty five years ago, there was a small
29:13
Speaker 1: percentage of coaches making a million dollars a year. The
29:16
Speaker 1: position coaches definitely weren't making that much money.
29:18
Speaker 2: So there's like a there's.
29:20
Speaker 1: Like a pureness to their love of the game that
29:24
Speaker 1: it's just different now. Like if you get into pro
29:27
Speaker 1: sports in twenty twenty six, all we talk about is money.
29:32
Speaker 1: When are you gonna get your next contract, how much
29:33
Speaker 1: you make as a rookie, what are they paying you.
29:35
Speaker 1: It's like what's your shoe deal, what's your clothing deal.
29:38
Speaker 1: It's like that in basketball, football, golf, you name it,
29:42
Speaker 1: just what you're gonna make. I feel like it wasn't
29:45
Speaker 1: quite like that when I was young. Obviously, when I
29:47
Speaker 1: was a kid, Michael Jordan made a lot of money, right,
29:51
Speaker 1: but it just felt.
29:52
Speaker 2: That there was there was a different vibe.
29:55
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to you know this like false
29:59
Speaker 1: sense of history. It truly was. It didn't quite feel
30:02
Speaker 1: like it does now. And that's what I respect about
30:05
Speaker 1: Justin Ross. That's what I respect about Tiger. And one
30:08
Speaker 1: takeaway I had today watching Tiger talk is role app
30:12
Speaker 1: who kind of like Goodell. I haven't seen him talk
30:16
Speaker 1: that much, which I don't have a problem with, Like
30:17
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to be friend center. He needs to
30:20
Speaker 1: utilize Tiger Woods like you get Tiger Woods at fifty.
30:24
Speaker 2: Years old in front of a microphone.
30:27
Speaker 1: There's like this combination of calmness, confidence, and swagger that
30:32
Speaker 1: he brings that I feel like he's being underutilized because clearly,
30:38
Speaker 1: behind the scenes he's playing a major role, but you
30:41
Speaker 1: get him in front of the microphone, he basically promotes
30:47
Speaker 1: a sense a vision of confidence. If I was a
30:51
Speaker 1: prospective company that might sponsor event, I watched that, like
30:56
Speaker 1: I want in on his business. I'm not talking about
30:59
Speaker 1: him playing anymore. I'm not even counting him playing anymore.
31:02
Speaker 1: I expect to never see him again, maybe on the
31:05
Speaker 1: Champions Tour on a cart. I'm not expecting him ever
31:08
Speaker 1: to play a PGA Tour event again. I will be
31:12
Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised whenever he plays the Masters. But to have
31:16
Speaker 1: him play a role in terms of a front man
31:24
Speaker 1: like I was watching this YouTube to this video on
31:27
Speaker 1: the Falcons and Matt Ryan, there's just a comfort he
31:31
Speaker 1: has putting him in front of a group of reporters,
31:35
Speaker 1: putting him on Pat McAfee forty nine ers have that
31:38
Speaker 1: in John Lynch. The Giants hired Buster posey to. When
31:43
Speaker 1: you hire these former big time athletes, they're very comfortable
31:48
Speaker 1: in that environment, you know why, that's all they've done
31:50
Speaker 1: their entire life. But once they get in that mode,
31:53
Speaker 1: unlike when they were playing, there's less of a guard.
31:58
Speaker 1: They're more relaxed. They actually promote like they even if
32:03
Speaker 1: they don't, they feel like they know what they're doing.
32:07
Speaker 1: And Tiger, who clearly is just a golf addict, loves
32:10
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour and is a huge reason my buddy
32:15
Speaker 1: Scotty texts me today, He's like, you know, the crazy
32:18
Speaker 1: thing is knock on wood. Thank god this didn't happen.
32:23
Speaker 2: I guess you don't need a knock on wood because
32:24
Speaker 2: we avoided it.
32:25
Speaker 1: If Tiger would have died in that car accident he
32:30
Speaker 1: had at the Genesis whatever five years ago, do Rory
32:35
Speaker 1: and some of these guys would they have gone to live?
32:37
Speaker 1: Do the Saudis now own the PGA Tour because I
32:40
Speaker 1: think there's a decent chance. I think his role of
32:45
Speaker 1: being around and supporting the tour and being like one
32:49
Speaker 1: of its loyal soldiers, of the number one guy on
32:54
Speaker 1: the front lines of the importance of this entity, whatever
32:59
Speaker 1: that is. Now I don't even know how you even
33:03
Speaker 1: it's harder to quite describe everything that's going on because
33:06
Speaker 1: it's ever changing. But might have saved golf.
33:10
Speaker 2: Truly might have.
33:12
Speaker 1: And when you watch him talk, you just go. He
33:16
Speaker 1: has like the credentials of Jack Nicholas because eighty plus wins,
33:20
Speaker 1: fifteen majors, the greatest player I've ever seen and probably
33:23
Speaker 1: will ever see. But now he's kind of got this
33:26
Speaker 1: confidence in front of a microphone, like, truly, ask me
33:30
Speaker 1: whatever you want you want to ask me about Anthony Kim.
33:32
Speaker 1: You want to ask me about Charlie, you want to
33:34
Speaker 1: ask me about the schedule, you want to ask me
33:36
Speaker 1: about you name it the Super Bowl. I don't give it.
33:39
Speaker 1: I'll hold court here for thirty minutes, like Arnold Palmer.
33:44
Speaker 1: Really that role would have been Phil's, but Phil's done,
33:48
Speaker 1: like he's never coming back to the BJ like it's
33:51
Speaker 1: he's excommunicated. So now Tiger has the role of the
33:54
Speaker 1: most accomplished guy and also the spokesman, and he's really
33:58
Speaker 1: good at it, Like it's feels pretty natural to him.
34:02
Speaker 1: It's actually something that there was more of a guarded
34:06
Speaker 1: nature when he was younger, and he's been like this
34:08
Speaker 1: for a while now in his older years, probably that
34:11
Speaker 1: late two thousand and eighteen nineteen run, but definitely since
34:15
Speaker 1: he got injured and came back, he has been so
34:19
Speaker 1: good in these press conferences. They need to utilize him more.
34:23
Speaker 1: I would have him, and I get it.
34:24
Speaker 2: He's busy.
34:26
Speaker 1: He's gonna get more busy if he plays a Champions
34:28
Speaker 1: Tour and goes to watch Charlie in college. You gotta
34:33
Speaker 1: double down on Tiger Woods being a spokesman for your business,
34:38
Speaker 1: like that is really really important, Like there's a reason
34:44
Speaker 1: teams have their quarterback stalk all the time. Usually they
34:46
Speaker 1: handle themselves really.
34:47
Speaker 2: Well in for a microphone.
34:48
Speaker 1: It's good for business seeing Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes
34:52
Speaker 1: or whoever talk all the time because they're good at it.
34:57
Speaker 1: They're good looking, they're good speaker, They're just they're natural
35:01
Speaker 1: at it. They have to communicate anyway in their role
35:06
Speaker 1: on the team as a quarterback, right every time they
35:10
Speaker 1: get in a huddle, they're the guys talking. And I
35:13
Speaker 1: think there's a similarity there with Tiger of like, make
35:17
Speaker 1: him be your quarterback, not on the course that those
35:20
Speaker 1: days are done, but off the course. And I watched
35:23
Speaker 1: him today, I'm like, God, I could watch Tiger Woods
35:26
Speaker 1: press conference every single week if they happen. And obviously,
35:30
Speaker 1: just from a human standpoint, a little human interest and
35:36
Speaker 1: story would be Charlie, who most of us started watching
35:40
Speaker 1: years ago when he would play in that father son
35:42
Speaker 1: event with Tiger, and he started really young. I remember
35:45
Speaker 1: the first time he got an eagle. He's probably twelve
35:47
Speaker 1: or thirteen years I used to love that event to
35:50
Speaker 1: what he's become now. Going to Florida State and I
35:52
Speaker 1: read this article on the athletic. This is not like
35:56
Speaker 1: some token invite to the team. He's established himself over
35:59
Speaker 1: the last like eight to twelve months on the amateur circular.
36:02
Speaker 2: He's a good young player.
36:05
Speaker 1: And I always said this because people like I bet
36:07
Speaker 1: he ends up going to Stanford like his dad's like.
36:09
Speaker 2: No chance.
36:11
Speaker 1: Their home base is Jupiter, Florida. Tiger Woods loves those
36:15
Speaker 1: no taxes, He loves that sunshine, and he loves that
36:18
Speaker 1: mansion on the water. He is a Southeast guy, Charlie Woods.
36:24
Speaker 1: If he was good enough, and any probably even if
36:26
Speaker 1: he wasn't, teams would have been interested. But once he
36:29
Speaker 1: became good enough, like he's playing in the SEC, I
36:33
Speaker 1: always guess he would play at Florida, but Georgia, Alabama,
36:37
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt one of those schools. I didn't necessarily think Florida State,
36:40
Speaker 1: but it makes a lot of sense. Obviously they've had
36:42
Speaker 1: pros before. And what a cool moment for Tiger, What
36:47
Speaker 1: a cool moment for anyone who's on that team. Not
36:50
Speaker 1: that if you play at Florida State, you don't have
36:52
Speaker 1: access to sweet courses in Florida. That program and those
36:56
Speaker 1: kids will have an open door policy at every course
37:00
Speaker 1: that matters in the South. Definitely, every course that matters
37:03
Speaker 1: in Florida, from Jordan's course to Tiger's course to you
37:07
Speaker 1: name it. It will be a great time to be
37:10
Speaker 1: on that team in terms of access and the people
37:14
Speaker 1: you will meet as a college golfer, the coach of
37:17
Speaker 1: that team, it is going to be an awesome experience
37:20
Speaker 1: for everyone, and I'm excited to watch and follow the
37:22
Speaker 1: guy's career. Miles Russell, the star young lefty, is gonna
37:26
Speaker 1: be I think he's in Charlie's class, in his recruiting class.
37:30
Speaker 1: So who's supposedly the best number one amateur and has
37:34
Speaker 1: been the top guy for a couple of years. I
37:38
Speaker 1: remember on one of my buddies who works in the
37:42
Speaker 1: golf apparel business and he's part of you know, the
37:46
Speaker 1: team that signs guys to wear their stuff. And I said,
37:51
Speaker 1: do you think he was a skip Miles Russell, skip
37:54
Speaker 1: college and go pro? He's said, nil, Bro, do you
37:57
Speaker 1: know how much money he is gonna make just get
38:00
Speaker 1: to enjoy himself in college?
38:01
Speaker 2: I didn't think of that. He could easily.
38:05
Speaker 1: Stay for four years and make five to eight million
38:08
Speaker 1: dollars ten million dollars a year.
38:10
Speaker 2: So the nil money that Charlie, I would guess.
38:14
Speaker 1: You know, Florida State, I'm sure has a deal with Nike,
38:16
Speaker 1: but maybe Sunday Red sponsors the golf team. We'll have
38:22
Speaker 1: to see how that plays out. But excited to watch
38:24
Speaker 1: that for sure. And in the last but not least,
38:27
Speaker 1: riv I just don't see how you don't take Scotty
38:30
Speaker 1: to win this tournament plus three twenty five hard rock bet.
38:34
Speaker 1: I was looking at the odds today. I mean, his
38:35
Speaker 1: odds have been well, it's been plus two fifty before,
38:40
Speaker 1: so I never hate taking Scotty. I don't think you
38:43
Speaker 1: ever feel bad about betting despite these crazy low odds
38:48
Speaker 1: having Scottie Scheffler on your betting ticket, because you will
38:51
Speaker 1: look up on Saturday or Sunday and he will either
38:55
Speaker 1: be in the lead or coming back and right near
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Speaker 1: the lead. You will always have a chance, and that
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Speaker 1: in golf, that's all you can ask for. I mean,
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Speaker 1: a guy that's been gambling on golf for a long time,
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Speaker 1: you can bet on five guys to finish in the
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Speaker 1: top ten and four of them can miss the cut,
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Speaker 1: and it kind of sucks because you're like, oh, I
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Speaker 1: got this guy long odds and this guy and Homa
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Speaker 1: and Cam Young. It's like those guys are even around
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Speaker 1: on Saturday. It's like his odds suck. Yet Scotti Scheffler
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Speaker 1: is literally always in the mix on Sunday, and as
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Speaker 1: a golf better that's really all you can ask for.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: It's easier to pick top tens in top twenties with
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Speaker 1: other guys because they have better odds. Scotty's odds to
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Speaker 1: finish in the top ten or like minus three hundred,
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Speaker 1: they suck. I mean, you get Rory this week plus
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Speaker 1: one forty. To me, that's an auto hammer. This course
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Speaker 1: is gonna play really long, it's gonna be soaked. You're
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Speaker 1: gonna get no role. He just showed a Pebble. He's
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Speaker 1: in pretty good form. He's played well here before. I
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Speaker 1: think Rory top ten plus one forty's an auto hammer,
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Speaker 1: a decky. He's playing really well. If his driver just
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Speaker 1: worked decently on Sunday, he probably runs away with waste management.
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Speaker 1: He came storming back last week, looked fantastic. You get
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Speaker 1: him plus two forty to top ten in this tournament
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a long shot. He showed a
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Speaker 1: lot of promise at Pebble several years ago. Sam Burns
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Speaker 1: was leading this tournament on Sunday and completely melted down.
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Speaker 1: But he's comfortable at this course and had success at
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Speaker 1: this course before. You can get him thirty to one.
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Speaker 1: So to me, looking at some of the guys that
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Speaker 1: are a bit longer odds, sam Burns is about as
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Speaker 1: long as I go, and I might dabble a little
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Speaker 1: bit on thirty to one sam Burns to win this week.
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Speaker 1: So take Scotty to win, Burns to win, Rory Hedeki
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Speaker 1: to top ten and that will be your boys card
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Speaker 1: for the weekend.
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Speaker 2: Enjoyed it.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone's doing well and look forward to watching a
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Speaker 1: little golf this weekend. The volume