Latest / From First Principles / Chen Ning Yang — The Man Who Unlocked Symmetry (EP. 14)
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- 0:00Ciao internet, this is your captain speaking Lester Nare, joined as always by my co-host and our resident PhD Krishna Chowdhury.
- 0:08This is From First Principles.
- 0:26My friend.
- 0:27How's it going?
- 0:28We have some travel coming up.
- 0:30And so we want to do a quick special episode for this upcoming week, which just so happens to be when the World Series is happening.
- 0:38And so, as you can see, we've prepared accordingly with our Japanese Otani jersey, with our Dodgers memorabilia hat, because we know the Dodgers are going to be back-to-back World Series champions.
- 0:50That's right.
- 0:51I mean, we're recording this a week before the World Series, but we already know how it's going to go.
- 0:55We already know how it's going to go.
- 0:56Yeah, it's going to go down.
- 0:57I mean, we're going up against Canadians.
- 1:00Look, having been on both sides of the pond, born in Montreal, living in the States.
- 1:06Yeah, you're literally kind of Canadian.
- 1:07But you know what I mean.
- 1:08It's not the same thing.
- 1:11It's not the same thing.
- 1:12We are going to win.
- 1:14But because of our sort of travel schedule, we're going to do a special episode that's focused on one story.
- 1:20And this story actually comes from a direct message, a DM.
- 1:24Someone slid into the DMs on TikTok.
- 1:28And they mentioned the recent passing of a physicist named Chen Ning-yong.
- 1:34Yep.
- 1:34Yep.
- 1:35And people are saying he's one of the most influential physicists of the 20th century.
- 1:41And I was unfamiliar with the game.
- 1:45Did a little bit of digging.
- 1:46And some of the names that people associate in terms of the class he belongs in include Einstein, Bohr, Heisenberg, Feynman.
- 1:56High praise.
- 1:57Yeah, yeah.
- 1:57Very, very high praise.
- 1:59Yeah.
- 1:59So are we really saying that...
- 2:02Yang can be associated in that class of sort of untouchables when it comes to sort of physicists who are above reproach in terms of what they've provided over the course of their careers in knowledge and expertise in Nobels.
- 2:20I mean, he won the Nobel Prize, and everybody talks about that, right?
- 2:23There's a BBC article that came out.
- 2:26on his death, and it said, you know, Chinese Nobel laureate and physicist Chen Ninyang dies at the age of 103.
- 2:34That BBC article mostly talks about his Nobel Prize, which was given for...
- 2:40discovering the theoretical foundations for something called parity violation, which is what we're going to get to.
- 2:46But that's not actually why he's considered one of the greatest of the 20th century.
- 2:50I mean, as you said, the 20th century has some of the most influential physicists of all time.
- 2:55Einstein, Bohr, Heisenberg.
- 2:57These are the people who...
- 3:00not only contributed to our understanding of the modern world, but totally reshaped how we think about doing physics in the first place.
- 3:10Right?
- 3:11And Yang is one of those people who completely kind of changed the way in which we think about trying to do theoretical physics, you know, as theoretical physicists do.
- 3:25And he came up with...
- 3:27The thing that really immortalized him was his formulation of something called non-abelian gauge theory, which is known as Yang Mills theory.
- 3:36I remember hearing, oh, gauge theory, gauge theory all the time.
- 3:39This is the guy who kind of started that whole thing.
- 3:42Okay.
- 3:43Yang Mills theory.
- 3:44And, you know, in physics circles, we just say Yang Mills theory.
- 3:47It's.
- 3:49It's a bedrock foundation for the standard model, which is one of the most successful theoretical ideas that we've had as human beings.
- 3:59Okay?
- 3:59And...
- 4:01it's rooted in this idea of symmetry, okay?
- 4:05So in this episode, what I really want to do is go through some of Yang's work and talk about symmetry as a principle and how that relates to the modern world.
- 4:15Now, symmetry, everybody knows what symmetry is, right?
- 4:19My favorite symmetric object is the Taj Mahal in India.
- 4:22The first time I saw it was actually, I was quite old, even though I grew up and was born in India.
- 4:29I didn't see it until after college.
- 4:32And it is one of the most beautiful buildings I have ever seen on planet Earth.
- 4:39And all of that has to do with symmetry.
- 4:42If you look at the Taj Mahal, right, it's an extremely symmetric building.
- 4:46And we kind of know what that means, right?
- 4:49We have this deep sort of intuitive sense that symmetry means balance, beauty, harmony, right?
- 4:57But when we think of symmetry, we think of it as a static property.
- 5:01It's something that we're looking at for a static object, right?
- 5:05But what do we actually mean when we say symmetry?
- 5:08The idea is, and this is something that the great mathematician Hermann Weil came up with.
- 5:16The idea of symmetry from a mathematical sense is that...
- 5:20A thing is symmetrical if there is something we can do to it so that after we have done it, it looks the same as it did before.
- 5:28This is a tongue cluster.
- 5:30It is.
- 5:30But here's what's happening.
- 5:32You've got a thing that is symmetric.
- 5:34What does that mean?
- 5:34That means I can do something to it.
- 5:37And when I'm done doing it, it looks just the same.
- 5:40The Taj Mahal.
- 5:41Here's an example, right?
- 5:42Imagine the Taj Mahal in your head.
- 5:44Yes.
- 5:44Flip it.
- 5:46Flip it along the XY plane.
- 5:47Yes.
- 5:48Not on the XY plane, on the vertical, right?
- 5:50Yes.
- 5:51So everything that's on the left goes to the right.
- 5:53So those spires on the left go to the spires on the right.
- 5:56The dome is exactly symmetric to the central axis.
- 6:00The two little domes on the side are symmetric.
- 6:03So they just flip around.
- 6:04So you can imagine if I were to take that photo of the Taj Mahal and then flip it,
- 6:09Right along the middle, I would get the same exact Taj Mahal.
- 6:13That means that it's symmetric.
- 6:14Does that mean?
- 6:15Yes.
- 6:15Does that make sense?
- 6:16It's symmetric upon reflection of that central axis.
- 6:19Yes.
- 6:19Now, there's other kinds of symmetry, and we're used to it.
- 6:22For example, there's shapes that we can do, and what we can do is not just reflect along the central line, we can reflect along many lines.
- 6:29For example, the heart.
- 6:31The heart shape, you can reflect along the central line.
- 6:34The butterfly, you can reflect along the central line, and the wings will go from one to the other.
- 6:40A square, you can reflect along the central line on both axes and also along the diagonals.
- 6:46And the square is going to come back to be the same square.
- 6:49There's another way to do symmetry, not just with reflections.
- 6:52You can also do rotations of objects.
- 6:54If you look at the red cross, the cross of the red cross, or the thing that's in the middle of the Swiss flag, you can rotate that cross 90 degrees.
- 7:05And it'll be the same cross, right?
- 7:07But if you take an arrow and you rotate it, it's going to point the other direction, right?
- 7:11It's going to point from up to left or whatever.
- 7:14However you do the 90 degree rotation.
- 7:17So...
- 7:18In that sense, we kind of know what symmetry means for objects, like thingies.
- 7:25Right.
- 7:25Right?
- 7:262D things, 3D things.
- 7:27You can even think about a sphere, right?
- 7:29You can rotate a sphere in any direction, and it's a continuous symmetry, because no matter how you rotate the sphere, it's still going to be a sphere.
- 7:36And you can do similarly with a cube, but only not in any direction, but in certain explicit degrees of rotation.
- 7:43Yes.
- 7:43Yeah, and actually the five platonic solids that are our logo, you can rotate them in three dimensions and you'll come back with the same exact platonic solid.
- 7:53Yes.
- 7:53Right?
- 7:54So we're used to objects being symmetric, but in the early 1900s, there was talk about maybe there's symmetry in the physical laws themselves.
- 8:06Right.
- 8:06Okay.
- 8:07Okay?
- 8:07There's stuff you can do to physics laws that leave the physics laws exactly the same.
- 8:14Okay.
- 8:14Okay?
- 8:15Okay.
- 8:15I hear what you're saying.
- 8:17Yeah.
- 8:17So let's dig into that.
- 8:19This was actually first sort of codified by someone by the name of Emmy Notter, who was a mathematician from Göttingen.
- 8:32She was actually like... She...
- 8:35People didn't want to publish her because she was a woman.
- 8:37So she would publish under her supervisor's name.
- 8:41But there's a theorem called Noether's Theorem, which basically codifies this idea that there's something I can do to physical laws.
- 8:53that will preserve the action of the physics underlying it.
- 8:57Okay.
- 8:58There's, we've actually like, it's quite intuitive at the start.
- 9:02Okay.
- 9:03Okay.
- 9:03There's a translation in space.
- 9:06That's a symmetry.
- 9:06For example, the laws of physics are the same here.
- 9:11As they are anywhere else in the universe.
- 9:13We've talked about this.
- 9:14Yeah, and we've talked about this before.
- 9:15If I set up an experiment here in one lab, and I do something, and I measure something, and then I go all the way across the United States to the East Coast, and I set up the experiment, I'm going to measure that same thingy, right?
- 9:30LIGO is a perfect example of this.
- 9:32Yes, exactly.
- 9:33There's one on Livingston, there's in Louisiana, and there's one in Hanford in Washington.
- 9:38They're both...
- 9:39operating the same way this ligo wouldn't be possible if translation in space wasn't a thing right yes right and but there's an inherent assumption there that because we're on two separate parts of earth the earth is not really part of the experiment right we're doing enough to cancel out the stuff of earth and like that local environment and
- 10:03To really focus on the physics that we want, and because of the translation symmetry of physics, that experiment in Louisiana is the same as the experiment in Washington, right?
- 10:14That's a translation in space.
- 10:16Okay.
- 10:17There's also a translation in time, which means if I do an experiment now, and then I don't change anything, and then I do an experiment later,
- 10:25you know, tomorrow or a month later, as long as it doesn't somehow depend on the Earth's position in the solar system or something like that.
- 10:35Obviously, if you're trying to, like, measure stars or something, yeah, you're not going to... Sure.
- 10:40You know, but...
- 10:41If you're doing something with subatomic particles or like gravitational waves, then yeah, whatever thing I'm doing now is the same as what I'll be doing tomorrow, is the same as what I'll be doing in a month and so on and so forth.
- 10:54Is this kind of where this idea of longitudinal studies come from where you have this long period of time where you're just replicating the same experiment in order to see the impacts of the universe?
- 11:04like overgenerational differences or any other kind of category.
- 11:08But because you have this symmetry in time.
- 11:11Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 11:12You at least can trust that the laws of physics aren't changing.
- 11:15They're not changing.
- 11:16That's not a variable you have to look at for.
- 11:18If that weren't true, then it's like whatever thing you're doing, it's like, oh, well, you did it a month later, right?
- 11:25So there is this underlying notion that whatever the laws of physics are today are going to be the same as the laws of physics tomorrow and the day after.
- 11:36And another one is the rotation in space.
- 11:40If I have an apparatus that's oriented this way, and then I just rotate the whole thing, as long as I rotate everything that has to do with my experiment...
- 11:52my experiment should yield the same results, right?
- 11:56Makes sense.
- 11:56So all of these things are symmetries.
- 11:58The fact that I can change my experiment in a way, but the physics remains the same.
- 12:03This is underlying, like, you know, the fact that I can replicate experiments.
- 12:08And if I do an experiment and I publish something with all the methods, somebody from the other side of the world can actually replicate that experiment.
- 12:14It's the bedrock of the scientific process.
- 12:15It is, it is.
- 12:16And it's been shown to be true.
- 12:18There's so many experiments that show that, you know, this is the laws of physics.
- 12:22There's no special point in space and time or direction in space and time that like yield different laws of physics, right?
- 12:45Every single time that we have this symmetry.
- 12:48That's something that we can tackle in a later episode and actually prove Notter's theorem.
- 12:53It's a beautiful proof.
- 12:54And it's quite intuitive.
- 12:56But at the end of the day, what ends up happening is any symmetry is associated with a conservation law.
- 13:02So, for example, the fact that I can translate in space, meaning I do an experiment here, then I do an experiment somewhere else, and the physics laws are exactly the same, that leads to a conservation of momentum.
- 13:13Okay.
- 13:14Okay?
- 13:15Yes, yes.
- 13:15In any situation.
- 13:16Right.
- 13:18If I do an experiment today, and then I do it tomorrow, and the week after, and the month after, and all of the laws of physics are the same, that leads to a conservation of energy.
- 13:29Okay?
- 13:30If I do an experiment here and I change the rotation where I rotate my entire experimental apparatus and I do it again, and the laws of physics are the same, that leads to the conservation of angular momentum.
- 13:41Right?
- 13:42It's a deep, deep notion that we have.
- 13:45Okay?
- 13:45This was in the early 1900s where Emmy Noether came up with this.
- 13:49I've never understood it intuitively because we've talked about all three of them.
- 13:52We've talked about conservation of angular momentum quite a bit.
- 13:55We've talked about the conservation of energy and
- 14:00And the conservation of momentum.
- 14:02And I've never understood it intuitively in this context of if you're doing your experiment here today and there tomorrow, there is no difference.
- 14:13Which means there have to be.
- 14:18That's actually very...
- 14:19I just had a light bulb go off in my head.
- 14:21Apologies.
- 14:21It's so deep, dude, to think about, right?
- 14:24Like really...
- 14:25These laws that we have, these rules, that these numbers are never going to change in any given setup.
- 14:31has to do with the fact that the universe wants to conserve the laws of physics, regardless of these transformations.
- 14:39Right.
- 14:39Right?
- 14:39Right.
- 14:40It's a very deep statement to make.
- 14:42Yes.
- 14:43Okay?
- 14:43And that's something that Emmy Notter came up with, with Notter's theorem.
- 14:46Now, she did that for classical mechanics.
- 14:50This is before the quantum revolution and things like that.
- 14:52And Hermann Weil was one of her colleagues at Göttingen.
- 14:56He thought this was one of the...
- 14:58craziest things he's ever heard, right?
- 15:01The fact that you can connect like an action on the physical laws to a conservation of the physical laws themselves.
- 15:07And he started going further with the new quantum revolution and trying to put that
- 15:15into this same language.
- 15:16Okay.
- 15:17Okay.
- 15:17And turns out it gets even deeper when you go into quantum mechanics and quantum mechanics, for example, you know, everything is a wave function, right?
- 15:27Whatever, whatever that means, but what gets even weirder is that wave function is a complex number.
- 15:33Okay?
- 15:34It's a complex number, which means it has a magnitude and it has a phase.
- 15:38It has a phase with respect to, like, some kind of zero, some zero that you arbitrarily choose.
- 15:45That complex number has, it's like a clock hand, right?
- 15:51It's got a length and it's got an angle.
- 15:53Well...
- 15:54According to quantum mechanics, what are the observables?
- 15:56The observables are probabilities of outcomes of experiments.
- 16:00And that comes from taking the magnitude of this complex number.
- 16:05The magnitude meaning only the length.
- 16:08So the phase actually doesn't matter when it comes to things that we can see, right?
- 16:14Which means if I take an electron, for example, and I change the phase everywhere for that electron all over the universe, right?
- 16:21Because this wave function is everywhere.
- 16:24That's not going to change the outcome of my experiment.
- 16:27If I add a phase or I subtract a phase, if everywhere I'm just like making the clock go a little bit, a little bit, that's not going to change whatever thing I observe.
- 16:35Right.
- 16:36Okay.
- 16:36And it turns out that that symmetry has to do with the conservation of charge.
- 16:41The fact that I can't create a positive or a negative charge anywhere.
- 16:46It's crazy.
- 16:47Right.
- 16:47So this is getting real interesting.
- 16:50Interesting.
- 16:51This is getting really, really interesting.
- 16:53Interesting.
- 16:54Okay, please continue.
- 16:56Right?
- 16:56Because now it's, again, now from that foundation, I'm extrapolating to a variety of other things we've talked about before that are making even more sense understanding this correlation or this relationship.
- 17:09Yeah, it's – I mean physics is getting really weird and really beautiful at the same time, right?
- 17:16It's like, oh, this is getting weird.
- 17:20In any case, let's talk about – okay, so we've talked about symmetries, right?
- 17:23Yes.
- 17:23And like the laws that are – laws are going to be the same no matter what I do.
- 17:27Yes.
- 17:28Okay.
- 17:28Well – Both in a classical sense and in a – And we've just touched upon the quantum sense of things, right?
- 17:34Okay.
- 17:36So let's talk about something that does break symmetry, because not every transformation is going to preserve the laws of physics.
- 17:44For example, if you do a change of scale, right?
- 17:48Suppose I make my experiment and it's like, you know, one meter by one meter or whatever.
- 17:52And then I just like increase the size of my experiment.
- 17:57Am I going to get the same physics?
- 17:58The answer is no, because nature does have a fundamental scale, right?
- 18:03There are such things as atoms, and those atoms are about 10 to the minus 10 meters big, like one angstrom, right?
- 18:10So to make my thingy bigger, I need to use more atoms, and that's going to change the physics of my apparatus.
- 18:16So the physics of scale, of stretching and squishing, is not a symmetry of the universe because there is a fundamental scale.
- 18:23The other way, when I was saying, like, you know, the symmetry of time, there's no T equals zero.
- 18:29I guess there is when it comes to the Big Bang.
- 18:32But when it comes to experiments that I do in the lab, there's no T equals zero.
- 18:35In the perception of the way we understand and see the universe, it's a little bit of a different concept.
- 18:39Yeah, that's a little bit of...
- 18:40In cosmology, there's a little bit of a different context, right?
- 18:43There is such a thing as t equals zero.
- 18:45But in the scale of experiments that I want to do in the lab, there isn't.
- 18:49There's no x equals zero, y equals zero.
- 18:51There's no origin for the universe.
- 18:53So I can shift my experiment anywhere, and the translation of space is going to work.
- 18:59But there is a fundamental scale, right, that...
- 19:02It has to do with how big atoms are.
- 19:04If you want to get really, really nitty-gritty about it, there's a fundamental scale that's the Planck length that has to do with how close I can get electrons before they turn into black holes.
- 19:15But there is such a thing, right?
- 19:17There's some meter stick.
- 19:18That's here.
- 19:19And so this is actually something that was first found by Galileo in Galileo's dialogue concerning two new sciences.
- 19:26He published this thing.
- 19:28He had a really funny cartoon.
- 19:30He thought about like animals and what would happen if I had like a Clifford sized dog.
- 19:35Okay.
- 19:36Okay.
- 19:36Remember Clifford, the big red dog?
- 19:38Yeah.
- 19:38So it's like I got a normal dog and then I got a Clifford-sized dog.
- 19:42What would happen?
- 19:42Well, the Clifford-sized dog, your mass, your weight scales like your volume, right?
- 19:49So it's going to go like the length cubed.
- 19:51Okay.
- 19:52Okay.
- 19:53Right?
- 19:53Yes.
- 19:54How much stuff you have goes like length cubed because volume goes like length cubed.
- 19:58On the other hand, tensile strength goes like length squared because it has to do with the cross-sectional area of your bone.
- 20:06Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 20:07You notice that?
- 20:08So I was just watching a video about this person hanging from rubber bands and seeing how many rubber bands it took to hold their weight up.
- 20:14And part of the discussion was about the tensile strength that was in the rubber bands in order to enable...
- 20:20Yeah, exactly.
- 20:21And holding it up.
- 20:21Yeah, exactly.
- 20:22Like if he had that guy, if he had a chain of rubber bands, that wouldn't really help him.
- 20:27Right.
- 20:27On the other hand, if he had a bunch of rubber bands in parallel, that would help him.
- 20:31Exactly.
- 20:31Because the rubber bands in parallel would increase the cross-sectional area of how much is holding you up.
- 20:38Bingo.
- 20:38Bingo.
- 20:38Right.
- 20:39And so Galileo has this really cool cartoon of like what a super dog bone would look like compared to a normal dog where the normal dog is like this like small bone.
- 20:51This is one of his drawings.
- 20:52And then the super dog bone is just massive, but not so much scaled in the in the along the bone length, but like the air, the thickness of the bone is way bigger.
- 21:02Right.
- 21:02the girth one would say exactly the girth of that bone is way bigger and that's where he's skilled and he's like if i wanted a super dog or whatever clifford the big red dog that guy's bones would be would be really thick because it needs to hold up the weight of the dog right i don't know why he chose dog but anyways maybe he had affinity to dog dogs who knows look i have three dogs so i also have i love dogs so yeah yeah i i get it i get it if he had cats he would not be my favorite
- 21:31Nothing against Schrodinger.
- 21:35I'm sure there's cat lovers in the audience.
- 21:37I'm just not a cat person.
- 21:40Okay, here's another broken symmetry, right?
- 21:43We can think about motion.
- 21:45Okay.
- 21:47Okay.
- 21:47What if I put my experiment, right?
- 21:51I'm doing some experiment.
- 21:52And then I put my experiment on a spaceship that is moving at a constant velocity.
- 21:56Mm-hmm.
- 21:59Actually, according to Galilean relativity and later Einstein's relativity, my experiment on that moving spaceship that's going in a straight line at constant velocity is going to have exactly the same results as my experiment that's on the ground that is stationary, whatever that means.
- 22:17Because it turns out, if I can't tell in my spaceship, I can't do any experiment that tells me if I'm moving in somebody else's stationary space,
- 22:25and so on and so forth, right?
- 22:27If both of our experiments are exactly the same, I can't tell who's moving and who's stationary.
- 22:31All I can say is somebody is moving relative to me.
- 22:34That was the big light bulb of Einstein to say that that's actually true.
- 22:39What are the consequences of that, right?
- 22:42That's something called a Lorentz transformation.
- 22:44So that's a symmetry of the universe.
- 22:46The fact that I can boost myself into a reference frame where I'm moving in a constant velocity, but my laws of physics won't change.
- 22:54On the other hand,
- 22:56You can think, okay, what about if I'm rotating at a constant angular velocity?
- 23:02Is that a symmetry?
- 23:04What that means is if I'm in a spaceship that's just, let's say, stationary, whatever that means, and I do an experiment, and then I put myself on a rotating reference frame, for example, the Earth.
- 23:17Yes.
- 23:17Right?
- 23:17But take out gravity.
- 23:19Somehow I'm rotating, but there's no gravity.
- 23:21Yes.
- 23:22Would the experiment be the same?
- 23:23The answer is no.
- 23:24No.
- 23:24The answer is no.
- 23:26And, I mean, have you been to Griffith Observatory?
- 23:29Yes.
- 23:29Have you seen the big pendulum from the ceiling down?
- 23:33Yeah.
- 23:33That's called Foucault's pendulum.
- 23:35That's a great example of a pendulum that is behaving differently because it's on a rotating reference frame.
- 23:41Because it's on a rotating reference frame, the pendulum is going to rotate differently.
- 23:45within itself and knock over those little tiny thingies and show that the Earth is rotating.
- 23:53That was one of the first big proofs that the Earth is really rotating.
- 23:57And you're visually kind of showing that there's this basin, right, where there's this pendulum that's floating.
- 24:03Imagine a clock, but it's now as the Earth rotates, the pendulum will move to different hours on the clock because that reference frame is changing.
- 24:14Exactly.
- 24:15Just in terms for the listeners, visually, like that's what you're describing.
- 24:19Yeah.
- 24:19The rotation makes it so that if the pendulum starts going from 12 to 6, as the earth rotates, it's now going from 1 to 7.
- 24:26Yeah.
- 24:272 to 8.
- 24:27Exactly.
- 24:28Whatever it might be.
- 24:29Yeah, exactly.
- 24:29And it goes at different speeds based on how far up you are on the earth in terms of latitude.
- 24:36Yes.
- 24:36You know?
- 24:37Yes.
- 24:38That is not a symmetry.
- 24:40Right.
- 24:40Okay.
- 24:41Like the fact that I can just like, I can't just take my experiment and start rotating it at a constant velocity.
- 24:47I can turn it and then do stuff.
- 24:49That's that gets me angular momentum, but I can't like constantly be rotating.
- 24:54Yeah.
- 24:55That's so interesting.
- 24:56Right?
- 24:57Yeah.
- 24:58So not everything is allowed by the universe.
- 25:01Right.
- 25:01Okay?
- 25:02Certain things are allowed and certain things are not allowed.
- 25:05The admin exposed some parameters that are doable, but it's like not all of them.
- 25:11Not all of it.
- 25:12Yeah, exactly.
- 25:13And so in the early 1900s, the question started becoming, what are the things that are allowed and what are the things that are not?
- 25:21We've already talked about how translation in space is allowed.
- 25:25So I can move my apparatus from here to there.
- 25:27I can move my apparatus in time so I can do stuff here.
- 25:30I can do stuff tomorrow and it'll be fine.
- 25:33I can rotate it and it'll be fine.
- 25:34Yeah.
- 25:35What about parity?
- 25:38The question is, are the laws of physics ambidextrous?
- 25:42Meaning, do the laws of physics distinguish left from right?
- 25:50Like the Taj Mahal.
- 25:51The Taj Mahal does not distinguish left from right.
- 25:55I can flip the Taj Mahal directly.
- 25:57in the mirror, and it'll look exactly the same.
- 26:00If I put a giant mirror in front of the Taj Mahal, right?
- 26:04And then I got somebody to be in the garden of the Taj Mahal, and he's looking one way and he's looking the other way.
- 26:12If the mirror is big enough, and if he's not allowed to move around...
- 26:17He could not tell which one's the real Taj Mahal and which one's the fake Taj Mahal, because the Taj Mahal is symmetric under inversion.
- 26:25Right?
- 26:26The question is, can someone devise a physics experiment to show that we are not doing that?
- 26:33Okay?
- 26:33And this is something that I've borrowed from Feynman.
- 26:36He proposed a thought experiment.
- 26:38He said, suppose we're making a clock.
- 26:41Okay.
- 26:41We're making a clock that's normal, so it's going to go clockwise.
- 26:45Yes.
- 26:45Okay.
- 26:46And now I make a clock that looks like my grandfather clock, but in the mirror.
- 26:53Right.
- 26:54Okay.
- 26:54So we're seeing an image with two clocks, one that looks like a normal clock where the 12, the 3, the 6, the 9...
- 27:00Look like normal numbers.
- 27:01Look like normal numbers, and the hand is going to go from the 12 to the... And then there's a second clock that's basically inverted.
- 27:08It's the inverse.
- 27:09So the 12 is flipped.
- 27:10The 3 is where the 9 should be.
- 27:13The 9 is where the 3 should be.
- 27:14And then the hand goes from the 12 to the inverted 3.
- 27:18The 3 to the left is rotating counterclockwise instead of clockwise.
- 27:22Instead of clockwise, right?
- 27:23So he's like, can I make a clock like that?
- 27:25Okay?
- 27:26This was part of his Feynman lectures of physics, which I'm a huge fan of.
- 27:31So, how do we make such a clock?
- 27:34Well, we got to be really careful.
- 27:36Okay.
- 27:37For example, even the screws, all of the screws are right-handed on our grandfather clocks, right?
- 27:45Because in America, and I think across the world, right?
- 27:48Righty-tighty, lefty-loosey.
- 27:50I think that's just a standard all over the world now.
- 27:53But that's just a human convention.
- 27:54If I wanted to make a truly symmetric mirror image clock, I'd have to call up my guy and have him make left-handed threads, which is like probably super hard because the thingy that's making the thread is itself right-handed.
- 28:10Right.
- 28:10So he'd have to make like custom equipment and all that.
- 28:13He'd probably have to 3D print.
- 28:14Yes.
- 28:14Or something like that.
- 28:15But if we did, let's say we went through all of that trouble.
- 28:20Yes.
- 28:20Yes.
- 28:21Okay.
- 28:21And we made a mirror image clock.
- 28:24Yes.
- 28:24Okay.
- 28:26Would that clock go exactly like the mirror image of my normal, normal clock?
- 28:32Okay.
- 28:32And intuitively, it seems yes, right?
- 28:36I mean, without thinking too hard about it.
- 28:38Without thinking too hard about it.
- 28:39Honestly, it does seem yes.
- 28:41Honestly, if the gears are tuned different, if the screws are tuned different, if everything is reversed, then of course the clock is going to go in reverse, right?
- 28:52And that was the way to do it for the longest time.
- 29:02Symmetry, right?
- 29:04We just talked about like, the clock is really a microcosm of like, can I make an experiment that goes one way or the other, right?
- 29:12That can tell the difference.
- 29:13If the clock does in fact do something different, then that means the universe does care about left or right, right?
- 29:18But in this case, I mean, we're pretty convinced that like the clock is going to, right?
- 29:21All it's relying on is gravity if there's a pendulum.
- 29:24And then like electromagnetism, which is just like the atoms pushing up against other atoms to like make the gear turn.
- 29:32And you've got some motors.
- 29:33I guess not a motor, right?
- 29:34Because the pendulum is providing them.
- 29:36Yeah.
- 29:37In any case, it seems like it should work.
- 29:39Another experiment that I thought was really cool that I found in his lectures was the alien thought experiment.
- 29:45Okay.
- 29:45So here's the challenge.
- 29:47You're on the phone.
- 29:48Somehow the aliens have contacted us.
- 29:50Yes.
- 29:50Okay.
- 29:51This is your dream.
- 29:52Yeah.
- 29:54Look, I'm trying to set it up.
- 29:55Yeah.
- 29:56I'm trying to set up the group chat right now.
- 29:57Yeah.
- 29:58Yeah.
- 29:58So, okay.
- 29:59Imagine we're on a group chat.
- 30:00Okay.
- 30:00We can't send them any photos.
- 30:02Okay.
- 30:03Okay.
- 30:03All we can do is like chat with them.
- 30:05Okay.
- 30:06They're on some really far away planet.
- 30:08Okay.
- 30:08All right.
- 30:11How do you explain left or right to them?
- 30:18Right?
- 30:18It would be pretty easy to explain left or right.
- 30:21You could just like tell them to look at the Hollywood sign, for example, and then be like the H is on the left of the D. Mm-hmm.
- 30:29Easy.
- 30:30Easy clap.
- 30:30You're done.
- 30:31They don't have the Hollywood sign.
- 30:33Okay.
- 30:33So what do you do?
- 30:34Well, you could, you know, if they're on Mars, then they're still in our local neighborhood.
- 30:40Yes.
- 30:40So you could tell them to look at the constellations.
- 30:42Yes.
- 30:43Right.
- 30:43You could be like, oh, look at the Big Dipper.
- 30:45And then you see how there's like the four that are kind of in a rectangle, like there to the left of the handle.
- 30:52Okay.
- 30:52Yeah.
- 30:53Great.
- 30:53So now you've defined left or right.
- 30:55Now suppose they're in a completely different galaxy and somehow we've had a wormhole that lets us text, you know, the texts are going through the wormhole.
- 31:02Okay.
- 31:03How do we, how do we, how do we tell them?
- 31:06How do we tell them?
- 31:07He, so a Feynman puts out a really funny, like little failed attempt that I thought was, was interesting enough to highlight here.
- 31:18Okay.
- 31:18So he said, okay, well, you know, um,
- 31:22If I take sugar molecules, like from sugarcane or something, and I dissolve it in water, and then I have plain polarized light, that's something that I can tell the alien how to make, right?
- 31:34Let's say they understand English.
- 31:36They just don't understand left and right.
- 31:38I can tell them, you know, a plain polarized light meaning like,
- 31:41you know, you guys know what light is.
- 31:43Yes.
- 31:44And they'll be like, yes.
- 31:45And I'll be like, okay, you guys understand that there's a polarization where the electric field is in one direction and the magnetic field is in the perpendicular direction.
- 31:52They're going to be like, yes.
- 31:53We're going to be like, okay, so let's get plain polarized light, which means all of the light has the electric field moving in one direction.
- 32:00And they're like, okay, cool.
- 32:01I can do that.
- 32:02Seems like something they can do.
- 32:03And then we're going to be like, okay, get a bunch of sugars.
- 32:06Sugars meaning C6H12O6, glucose.
- 32:09Okay.
- 32:10Get a bunch of sugars.
- 32:11And then put your plane polarized light through the sugars.
- 32:15Okay?
- 32:16And what's going to happen is as the plane polarized light goes through these sugars, it's going to rotate.
- 32:23It's going to rotate.
- 32:24And we've got a little visualization here.
- 32:26Yes.
- 32:28As the plane polarized light goes through, the electric field, which is only moving up and down, that's how we prepared it, it's going to start rotating to the right.
- 32:39Okay?
- 32:40Okay.
- 32:40Okay.
- 32:42Yes.
- 32:42And so you can tell your alien, hey, okay.
- 32:44So just watch how your light rotates through this sugar water thingy.
- 32:50Okay.
- 32:50And then, you know, the direction that the light comes out, that's the right.
- 32:56That's the right.
- 32:56Okay.
- 32:57And the other way is the left.
- 32:58Okay.
- 32:59Okay.
- 32:59Okay.
- 33:00Seems pretty cool.
- 33:01I'm tracking.
- 33:02Seems pretty good.
- 33:10all have a certain chirality because the sugars are a C6H12O6 ring.
- 33:17There's a ring of carbons, right?
- 33:19It's a little hexagon of carbons and oxygens.
- 33:23And the way in which they're arranged are always in one particular handedness.
- 33:29Okay?
- 33:29You got to go...
- 33:32You got to go clockwise to see the way that the elements are formed.
- 33:37But you could make sugars in the lab that are the exact opposite direction.
- 33:42The chirality is the opposite.
- 33:43Okay, the chirality is opposite.
- 33:44It's just that all of life on Earth, for some reason, makes one-handedness of sugars.
- 33:52And that has to do with the fact that all of the proteins that we have on Earth—
- 33:57have one-handedness okay so there's proteins like all of the primary amino acids in life right except one glycine are chiral and so there's isomers of these amino acids where you've got the d isomer and the l isomer the left-handed form and the right-handed form and most of our amino acids are the left-handed form okay so
- 34:23It just is what it is.
- 34:25Right.
- 34:25Because there's actually, this is a big mystery in like the origin of life.
- 34:32Like how is everyone like in the same, you know, you could have picked two and everyone's picked one.
- 34:39Right.
- 34:39And it's probably because whatever primordial ancestor was the first, you know, primordial origin of life on earth picked the left-handed form.
- 34:50And then as everyone descended from that, right, the DNA became left-handed, the proteins became left-handed, the glucose that comes out becomes a certain-handedness, everything becomes that handedness.
- 35:01And so you can make stuff in the lab.
- 35:04That is both.
- 35:06You can have both chirality in the lab.
- 35:09But when it comes to biology, we're always going to make one-handedness.
- 35:13That is fascinating.
- 35:14So if we're talking now, we're DMing this alien, right?
- 35:18Yes.
- 35:19And we're like, make a bunch of C6H1206.
- 35:22Yes.
- 35:24He's actually going to be like...
- 35:26I'm getting both.
- 35:27I'm getting stuff that's going to the right and to the left.
- 35:29And we're going to be like, which one can you eat?
- 35:32Right?
- 35:33He'll be like, oh, maybe he could eat the ones that are left.
- 35:36Because the primordial life on his planet.
- 35:39Yes, yes, yes.
- 35:41Was the other hand in this, right?
- 35:43So that's not going to work.
- 35:43It's not going to work.
- 35:44I thought that was such a cool little... That's very... You know?
- 35:49And it's such a simple question that has such deep implications in terms of actually trying to facilitate.
- 35:58Again, it starts off like a silly go.
- 35:59Like, oh, how can you tell an alien with left versus right?
- 36:02Yeah.
- 36:02Yeah.
- 36:03But there's actually some really deep fundamental...
- 36:04There's deep physics here.
- 36:05Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 36:06Can you?
- 36:07Yeah, can you?
- 36:07The question is, can you?
- 36:09Can you?
- 36:09Can you...
- 36:11Without sending him a photo.
- 36:13Right.
- 36:14Right?
- 36:14If I send him a photo, it's easy.
- 36:16But via strictly...
- 36:17Via just strictly, I need you to do stuff there.
- 36:20Yes.
- 36:21In order to illustrate left versus right.
- 36:24Left versus right.
- 36:25Can I do this?
- 36:26Right?
- 36:27So it's still failing.
- 36:28Even if we do this chemical sort of...
- 36:32Okay, so the chemistry is failing, right?
- 36:34All right, now let's do a physics attempt.
- 36:36Okay.
- 36:37Okay.
- 36:39In physics, we're always talking about something called the right-hand rule, okay?
- 36:43Okay.
- 36:44Right-hand rule is how we do cross products of vectors, and it defines our coordinate system.
- 36:49For example, if you have a wire that's got current moving up, then you put your thumb on your right hand towards the current, and then you curl your hand.
- 36:59And the way you curl your hand is the way that the magnetic field is going.
- 37:02So in this image, we're seeing someone with a thumbs-up hand with this wire going through it.
- 37:09And the current is going up.
- 37:10The current is going up.
- 37:11So the thumb is pointing up.
- 37:13And you can see the hand.
- 37:15The fingernails are in the front of the image.
- 37:19Yeah.
- 37:20And the way that I curl the fingers, the fingers are curled counterclockwise.
- 37:24Yes.
- 37:25And then it's also now flowing...
- 37:27Yeah, the magnetic field is flowing where my fingers are.
- 37:32Yeah, so that's called the right-hand rule.
- 37:34And we live in a right-handed coordinate system.
- 37:37What that really means is the following, okay?
- 37:39What that means is if I have my x-axis, let's say, this way, and my y-axis this way, then my z-axis is this way.
- 37:47If I have my x-axis pointing north.
- 37:50Yeah, let's say pointing outward.
- 37:52Outward.
- 37:53And my y-axis to the left.
- 37:54Yes.
- 37:55Then the z-axis is up.
- 37:56Up, okay.
- 37:56Okay.
- 37:57Now, somebody who created physics could have easily been left-handed and said, nah, x-axis this way, y-axis this way, so z-axis is pointing down.
- 38:08The fact that z-axis is pointing up here and not down is just a human construct.
- 38:14It's a choice.
- 38:15It's a choice that we've made because probably the guy who made it up, the made up the cross product, was like, I'm going to use a right-handed coordinate system, right?
- 38:23Yes.
- 38:23And so...
- 38:24Our coordinate system is right-handed just by pure choice, but we could have had our z-axis pointing the other way, and it would have been complete—the physics would have been completely fine.
- 38:33It's the same.
- 38:33It's the same.
- 38:34It's just this orientation.
- 38:35So we can't really use physics, right?
- 38:37And to illustrate this further, right—
- 38:41Let's think about what happens to motions of particles and vectors in a mirror world.
- 38:47Okay.
- 38:47Okay?
- 38:48So if I have a mirror that's right in front of me, and I have a particle that's moving away from me, I would go to the other photo.
- 38:56Yes.
- 38:58If I have a mirror in front of me, and I would go...
- 39:05Let's say the particle is going towards the mirror.
- 39:07Okay.
- 39:08Okay?
- 39:09So it's moving away from me.
- 39:10Yes.
- 39:11In the mirror world, what I'm seeing is the particle would come towards me.
- 39:15Yes.
- 39:15Yes?
- 39:16Yes.
- 39:17So the trajectory of the particle is flipped.
- 39:20Yes.
- 39:20Yes.
- 39:21Yes?
- 39:21Yes.
- 39:22Okay.
- 39:23But if I have a current that is now, let's say I've got a current that creates a magnetic field.
- 39:32All magnetic fields are created by currents, right?
- 39:34So if we go to photo 11, we'll actually see on the left-hand side, we're going to see a current that is twisted to the right.
- 39:43Yeah, to the right.
- 39:44Okay.
- 39:45Okay.
- 39:45So in our world, it's twisted to the right, which means that if I were to follow this loop of current, right, let's say I make a loop out of the current, and it's twisted to the right, so my right hand is following the thing, then the B field is pointed up.
- 39:58Yes.
- 39:59Right?
- 39:59But in the mirror world...
- 40:02that current would be pointed to the left.
- 40:04And so the B field would be pointed down.
- 40:06Right?
- 40:07Yes.
- 40:07And everything in physics has to do with the... Everything when it comes to magnetism and charged particles and how those charged particles move in a magnetic field...
- 40:18In physics, that has to do with a cross product of my velocity and my magnetic field.
- 40:24But what just happened is I just flipped both of those vectors, right?
- 40:29The velocity became the negative.
- 40:31Yes.
- 40:31And the B field also flipped.
- 40:33Yes.
- 40:33So I got a negative times a negative, which becomes a positive.
- 40:36This is, ah, this is, okay.
- 40:38Right?
- 40:39Yes.
- 40:39So I can't do it.
- 40:40I can't, I can't like.
- 40:42Yes.
- 40:43I can't actually, I can't actually do it.
- 40:49With just pure electromagnetism, you cannot explain to the Martian what is left versus right because of this mirror symmetric.
- 41:01Yeah.
- 41:02Because all of the laws of physics so far are exactly mirror symmetric.
- 41:06Right.
- 41:07Right?
- 41:08Everything in the mirror world is the same as my world.
- 41:11Yes.
- 41:11Yes.
- 41:12There's no way for me to DM him and explain to him what is left and right.
- 41:16That's so interesting.
- 41:18It's so cool to think about, right?
- 41:19That's so interesting.
- 41:20So we've tackled gravity.
- 41:21Gravity doesn't care.
- 41:23Gravity really doesn't care.
- 41:25Electromagnetism, we thought, kind of cared because we're always worried about the direction of the magnetic field and, like, the crossing of the product and da-da-da-da.
- 41:34But it turns out, like, in the mirror, everything is flipped.
- 41:37So the motion of the particle isn't actually going to change.
- 41:39Mm-hmm.
- 41:40Right.
- 41:42So we're really in a conundrum here.
- 41:43Yeah.
- 41:45Right.
- 41:45Like, how are we going to tell this guy?
- 41:46Right.
- 41:47How are we going to explain to this guy the simple fact that my heart is on the left-hand side?
- 41:53Right.
- 41:54You know?
- 41:54Right.
- 41:55And I write with my right-hand side.
- 41:56And what does that actually mean?
- 41:58Yeah.
- 41:59Does it mean anything?
- 41:59Does it mean anything?
- 42:00It becomes a very philosophical question, right?
- 42:02Does it mean, like, is there really no difference between left and right?
- 42:06Does the universe really not care?
- 42:08Right.
- 42:08Well, if we're talking about politics, there's certainly a difference.
- 42:11There's certainly a difference, right?
- 42:13But maybe that's why we shouldn't be labeling them in these directions, because in physics, there's no difference.
- 42:18It seems there's no difference.
- 42:19Or maybe this is where horseshoe theory comes from.
- 42:21Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 42:23It's the same.
- 42:24Yeah, exactly.
- 42:25Yeah.
- 42:27Exactly.
- 42:28So we've been discussing this question, right?
- 42:30Is parity conservation a law of the universe?
- 42:32And so far it seems yes.
- 42:34Okay.
- 42:34Meaning that if I have some experiment and I do some experiment and then I do the mirror image of that experiment, the results of the experiment are exactly going to be the same.
- 42:43Okay.
- 42:43So let's review a few things.
- 42:45Okay.
- 42:46Certain vectors flip sign.
- 42:48Okay.
- 42:49Okay.
- 42:49Like position, for example, if I'm moving in this direction, right?
- 42:53In the mirror image, it's going to flip side.
- 42:55When you say this direction, how do you mean?
- 42:57I mean, like, yeah, for example, like, let's say there's a mirror in front of me.
- 43:00If I'm moving towards the mirror, in the mirror world, that particle is going to be moving towards me.
- 43:05Got it.
- 43:05Right?
- 43:06So it's like I'm moving towards the wall.
- 43:10Let's say the mirror is on the wall and the particle is moving towards the wall.
- 43:13Well, in the mirror world, the particle is moving out of the wall, right?
- 43:17Yes.
- 43:18So it's flipped its sign, right?
- 43:20That's what parity means.
- 43:21We're flipping all of the x's.
- 43:22x becomes negative x, y becomes negative y, z becomes negative z, okay?
- 43:27Now, certain vectors, these true vectors, they flip their sign.
- 43:32But then there's other vectors called axial vectors that do not.
- 43:36For example, angular momentum.
- 43:38Suppose I have...
- 43:39Suppose I'm doing this with my hands.
- 43:42Rotating in a clockwise direction.
- 43:44Yeah, rotating in a clockwise direction.
- 43:47So the spin is towards the wall.
- 43:49Okay.
- 43:49Right?
- 43:50It's towards the wall, into the wall.
- 43:52The righty-tighty idea.
- 43:53Yeah, righty-tighty idea.
- 43:54Well, that rotation is going to look the same in the mirror world, right?
- 43:59In the mirror world, if I'm doing my hand like this, the mirror's trajectory is also going to be going clockwise.
- 44:04So in the mirror world...
- 44:07That the spin is going to be going into the wall, right?
- 44:12It's going to be going like...
- 44:14The angular momentum actually doesn't change.
- 44:16Wait, this is actually really crazy.
- 44:17It's kind of trippy.
- 44:18I really need you to focus here and think about this.
- 44:20That's actually really crazy.
- 44:22Because what you're basically saying is in the mirror...
- 44:24Yeah, and if...
- 44:25Pull back up.
- 44:26Yeah, we pull back up.
- 44:27Like on the left-hand side, we've got a wheel that's turning like this.
- 44:32And so the spin vector is to the right.
- 44:35Now I flipped it along the middle.
- 44:37Mm-hmm.
- 44:38It's spinning, but the spin vector is still, right?
- 44:41Because it's like, imagine I got a mirror in front of me.
- 44:45I'm doing this.
- 44:46In the mirror world, that thing is, my hand is still doing the same kind of thing.
- 44:51It's because I've changed both X and Y to be negative and negative.
- 44:55And the spin is a product of those two coordinates.
- 45:00So the negative, you know, it's still going to be pointing in the same direction.
- 45:04So an electron that's spinning this way into the mirror is going to be still pointing, like going the same direction in the mirror world.
- 45:12In the mirror world.
- 45:14This is a crucial thing for you to understand.
- 45:17This is, I've never thought about this.
- 45:19Can you imagine it?
- 45:20So I can in my head.
- 45:21Yeah.
- 45:22No, I can.
- 45:22I can visually.
- 45:23It's crazy.
- 45:24And it's making me uncomfortable because it doesn't make sense.
- 45:27Yeah.
- 45:28But not even that it doesn't make sense, but it's the distinction between the first use case we just talked about of the position vector versus this axial vector.
- 45:45And simply, it seems like such a simple difference.
- 45:50Yeah.
- 45:51But the implications of that simple difference change everything.
- 45:56And the real underlying substrate here is that axial vectors are not true vectors.
- 46:01They're kind of like, they're products of two vectors.
- 46:05Angular momentum is R cross V. So because you put a negative on one and the negative on the other, it's going to be the same.
- 46:12Right?
- 46:13The position vector is literally like, where am I going from where I went to?
- 46:17It's flat.
- 46:18Right?
- 46:18There's no dimensionality.
- 46:19Yeah, there's no...
- 46:19It's just...
- 46:20There's nothing tricky about it.
- 46:22Right.
- 46:22But when it comes to axial vectors like angular momentum, those things do not flip.
- 46:27That's...
- 46:28It's...
- 46:29I'm like...
- 46:30I have so many thoughts.
- 46:31Yeah, it's crazy, dude.
- 46:34But this is central to the idea.
- 46:37Some vectors change.
- 46:39Other vectors do not when it comes to parity.
- 46:42In the mirror world, if my angular momentum is...
- 46:46that way in the mirror world it's also going to be that way on the other hand my position if my position is is this way the the guy is coming at me right if if if i have like uh a bug that's flying away from me towards the mirror then that bug is flying towards me out of the mirror yes so the position vector is flipped but if my bug is like rotating like this
- 47:11It's going to be coming towards me, but it's going to be rotating.
- 47:14Like, you know?
- 47:15Yeah, yeah.
- 47:16So the position is, but it's still going to be rotating in that same clockwise way.
- 47:21Yes.
- 47:22Yes.
- 47:22Yes.
- 47:23And it's actually like really trippy to think about.
- 47:25It's really trippy to think about, dude.
- 47:26Yeah.
- 47:27it yeah this this okay i'm tracking you know no no i mean this a total side note to this but this kind of reminds me it's not similar but there's like this whole there's this gentleman who's created this thing called the true mirror because we're seeing a reflection a mirrored version of ourselves when we look in a mirror versus what other people see when they look at us yeah and
- 47:52physiological response that we as humans have when we see a mirror reflection of ourselves versus like what other people see of ourselves.
- 48:02And so like, because like your brain processes the mirror image in a certain way.
- 48:08And so when you see it in the opposite, there's like these...
- 48:12Outcomes like, oh, you tend to like not be searching, gazing in the eye, like trying to find the eyeline.
- 48:18You naturally like are not uncomfortable and smiling.
- 48:22There's this whole like arena of stuff.
- 48:25It's not the same thing, but it makes me think about that use case because I've never before thought about the idea that the way people see me in the world is not the same thing that I see in the mirror.
- 48:36No.
- 48:37And so everyone sees me the reverse of how I think my existence is.
- 48:40Yes.
- 48:40Yes.
- 48:41And that's very weird.
- 48:42Yeah.
- 48:43They're seeing just like, I guess you, I don't know.
- 48:46There's no flipping.
- 48:47There's no flipping.
- 48:48There's no flipping because flipping is a crazy thing, right?
- 48:51You're flipping axes and all this other stuff.
- 48:52But if I was like having angular momentum towards people.
- 48:56Yeah.
- 48:56Anyway.
- 48:57Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 48:58Exactly, dude.
- 48:59It's crazy.
- 49:00It's crazy to think about.
- 49:01It's very...
- 49:02But my main point here was some vectors, like my velocity...
- 49:07Yes.
- 49:07...like my position, those are true vectors.
- 49:10Those are going to flip sine.
- 49:11Yes.
- 49:11My angular momentum is not going to flip sine.
- 49:15Right.
- 49:15Okay?
- 49:15Right.
- 49:16Now...
- 49:17You know, we start getting these weird experiments from Otto Laporte.
- 49:23He's a student of Sommerfeld.
- 49:24Sommerfeld we've talked about at the University of Munich.
- 49:27One of the great physicists of Germany before the war who...
- 49:33tutored the likes of Heisenberg and Pauli and all these people, never got the Nobel Prize.
- 49:38But he showed in experiments with iron that if you have, you know how like in quantum mechanics, you have transitions between energy levels of an atom.
- 49:46The electron is in some energy state and then it goes to another energy state.
- 49:50And they're discreet.
- 49:51Yeah.
- 49:51And they're discreet.
- 49:53And when that transition happens, it lets out light.
- 49:55And by measuring the light, you can tell what kind of transition that happened.
- 49:59Yes.
- 49:59Well, he found that there's certain transitions that never happen.
- 50:03Okay.
- 50:03Okay?
- 50:04If the electron is in some state, it's never going to go to some of these other states.
- 50:08Okay?
- 50:08And Eugene Wigner created these things called selection rules.
- 50:13Okay?
- 50:13It turns out that atoms have two kinds of energy levels.
- 50:16There's one that has even parity, which means that if I flip the coordinates, it's the same.
- 50:23That's the one.
- 50:24Like, if it's symmetric about the y-axis, right?
- 50:26And if I flip, it's like the Taj Mahal.
- 50:28Yes.
- 50:28And then there's another one where if I flip the parity, it's going to be the negative
- 50:33Of that.
- 50:34It's like a flippingness of the Taj Mahal.
- 50:37Okay?
- 50:37But there's one state that looks like the Taj Mahal, and then there's another state that looks exactly the opposite.
- 50:42Yes.
- 50:43Okay?
- 50:43Yes.
- 50:44And what he found was that...
- 50:46When these electrons switch energy levels, they have to conserve parity.
- 50:51Okay?
- 50:51Okay.
- 50:52One of them is even.
- 50:53The other one is odd.
- 50:54You can assign them numbers that are even and odd.
- 50:57And the total parity before has to equal the total parity after.
- 51:00So it became – and everybody liked it, right?
- 51:03It's like, okay, it's like intuitive, right?
- 51:05If I made a clock that's in this opposite mirror world and it works the same way –
- 51:11Conservation of Parity comes from Noter's Theorem.
- 51:15So it's all nice.
- 51:16It's all tracking.
- 51:17It's all tracking.
- 51:20The universe can't distinguish between left and right.
- 51:22We're in a nice universe that's just agnostic about what is left and right.
- 51:26It doesn't care.
- 51:27Okay?
- 51:28Then comes the puzzle of the theta and the tau.
- 51:31Okay?
- 51:32These are mesons.
- 51:33Mesons are... At the time, they didn't know what it was.
- 51:37But this was...
- 51:41Now we know that a meson is basically a quark and anti-quark bound together in a single particle.
- 51:46At the time, we didn't know what it was.
- 51:47In the 1950s, these physicists, they found two particles, the theta and the tau, okay?
- 51:53And they were the same in every regard, okay?
- 51:56They had the same mass.
- 51:58They had the same charge.
- 51:59They have the same lifetime, even.
- 52:01The lifetime part is weird, okay?
- 52:02Because they got the same lifetime, but they're different in one tiny thing, okay?
- 52:07And the one tiny thing is in how they decay.
- 52:09One of them decayed into two pions, and the other one decayed into three pions.
- 52:13It's not important what pions are.
- 52:15The main point is pions carry a parity charge, okay?
- 52:19You know how I was saying that we can assign parity numbers to our states?
- 52:22Yes.
- 52:23Well, pions have parity numbers.
- 52:25Okay.
- 52:25And all of a sudden, you had two identical particles in every other aspect, but one of them had a different parity decay, and the other one had a different parity decay.
- 52:36Okay, one of them was going into two, the other one was going into three.
- 52:39So one of them had an even parity, and the other one had an odd parity.
- 52:43If you think that parity is the same, right?
- 52:45On the left-hand side, we've got the theta, which is—sorry, on the left-hand side, we've actually got the tau that's going into three pions.
- 52:54And on the right, we've got the pi that's going into two, right?
- 52:57This is just a schematic diagram showing, like, that decay.
- 53:00Yes.
- 53:00Yes.
- 53:01This is very weird.
- 53:02Yeah.
- 53:03Because if the law of conservation of parity is true, which everyone assumed it's true, then the decays must end in the same parity.
- 53:10But here we've got the same particle that looks pretty much the same.
- 53:14But they have this diverging...
- 53:16But they have this diverging decay.
- 53:18Decay parity.
- 53:19Okay.
- 53:20Okay.
- 53:20And so now it's like, how could these two be so similar and yet have such a different thing?
- 53:29Right.
- 53:30One...
- 53:31One possible resolution is that these are two very different particles.
- 53:37Okay.
- 53:38The other possibility is that these two are the same particle, but parity is not conserved in this process.
- 53:46Okay.
- 53:46And all the stuff that we've talked about with electromagnetism, with gravity, parity is conserved.
- 53:52But in this particular thing that we are observing...
- 53:56It is not.
- 53:56Okay.
- 53:57Okay?
- 53:58So the conservation of parity is not universal.
- 54:01Yes.
- 54:02Maybe not all the laws of physics obey the conservation of parity.
- 54:07Maybe there's an exception.
- 54:08Okay.
- 54:08Maybe gravity is not the exception.
- 54:10Maybe electromagnetism is not the exception, but maybe there's something else.
- 54:15Mm-hmm.
- 54:16And this is where the hero of our story, Yang Chengning, comes in.
- 54:21So Yang Chengning, born in 1922 in Hefei province in China.
- 54:29His dad was actually a professor at Tsinghua University.
- 54:32in Beijing.
- 54:33He was a math professor.
- 54:34He's one of the few people who actually did his PhD outside of China and then came back to teach in China.
- 54:40So he's had exposure to group theory from a very early age.
- 54:43Group theory is the mathematics of symmetry.
- 54:47He's gearing up for this fight early on.
- 54:51He's forged in war actually like
- 54:53During the Japanese invasion of Kunming in 1937, this was before the all-out break of war in the Pacific Theater where the United States got involved after Pearl Harbor, the Japanese were doing all sorts of random, stupid nonsense, terrible stuff in China.
- 55:12And so all of the Chinese academia actually...
- 55:16went down to Lianda in the southwestern province, and they sort of conglomerated all of their academic might in the south, away from all of the fighting.
- 55:27And this is where Yang Cheng Ning did his undergraduate and his PhD.
- 55:33Okay.
- 55:34No, sorry.
- 55:34Not his PhD.
- 55:35His undergraduate and his master's.
- 55:37Okay.
- 55:37Okay.
- 55:37And he actually learned about quantum mechanics at a very early, even back then.
- 55:41I mean, it's quite remarkable because quantum mechanics was still quite early, but he was, the university was so good.
- 55:48Right.
- 55:49That he was already getting exposure to quantum mechanics at that early undergrad master's level.
- 55:55He gets on one of these Liberty boats from China to the US.
- 55:58He caught it in Calcutta, actually.
- 56:00These are boats that were set up after the war to bring in people from the Indonesian, Indo-Chinese theater that was happening in Burma to the United States.
- 56:10So he goes through Calcutta, through the Red Sea, through the Mediterranean to New York.
- 56:15There were no direct boats to San Francisco.
- 56:17So he actually had to come the other way, all the way around the earth.
- 56:20Right.
- 56:21He ends up in New York.
- 56:24He stays.
- 56:25I was just watching some of his interviews from Stony Brook University, which is where he ended up and spent a majority of his academic career.
- 56:32They have these incredible interviews of the man, Yang Cheng Ning.
- 56:37And he was talking about how, like, you know, when he first got off the boat, he got a hotel room in Times Square.
- 56:47Which back then is not, you know, now it's like altruisty, but like back then it's sketches.
- 56:53Yeah, not the same thing.
- 56:54It's not the great thing.
- 56:56Pre-gentrification.
- 56:57Yeah, so like his first exposure to America was Times Square in the 1940s.
- 57:03Anyway, so he gets there.
- 57:07He goes to Colombia in search of Fermi because Fermi was officially on the roster of Colombia.
- 57:11He goes there.
- 57:11He asks the secretary about Fermi.
- 57:13The secretaries don't know who Fermi is.
- 57:16Because I don't even know.
- 57:18Fermi was at the time, he was never in Colombia because he was doing classified research for the government for the Manhattan Project.
- 57:25But I mean, come on, you don't know who Fermi is.
- 57:27All right, fine.
- 57:30He goes to Colombia.
- 57:31He can't find Fermi.
- 57:31He goes to Princeton.
- 57:32He actually meets Eugene Wigner.
- 57:34Mm-hmm.
- 57:35there wigner tells him that he's going to sabbatical at oak ridge which is another classified thing and because young chungning is chinese you know you can't you're not gonna you're not gonna get a job with wigner you're not gonna get read into the special access no yeah it's like you just got here you know it's like especially at that time yeah at that time yeah it's like i we don't know it's tough
- 57:58Yeah, it's tough.
- 58:00So then he goes, talks to Wheeler.
- 58:01Wheeler is someone that we talked about, another Princeton great.
- 58:05Wheeler gave him some problems.
- 58:07Those problems didn't really interest him.
- 58:09He tried as much.
- 58:10And then he got word that Fermi was actually permanently going to Chicago, University of Chicago from Columbia.
- 58:16And so he applies there.
- 58:17He sends a telegram to Columbia, to Chicago.
- 58:22gets in immediately because his grades were so good in the Chinese undergrad and masters.
- 58:27So he gets in.
- 58:28He goes to the Chicago school under the guidance of these giants, Enrico Fermi, Edward Teller, the villain of the Oppenheimer movie.
- 58:39He actually got his PhD under Edward Teller.
- 58:42Okay.
- 58:43Oh, very interesting.
- 58:43Edward Teller was his PhD advisor.
- 58:45And that's actually a really funny story because... Yeah.
- 58:50He wanted to at first get his PhD under Enrico Fermi.
- 58:54But Fermi had gone to Argonne National Lab, again, for classified research.
- 58:57Yes.
- 58:58Right?
- 58:58So he's like, I can't really take you.
- 59:00I'm really sorry.
- 59:02He goes to Teller.
- 59:03Teller gives him problems.
- 59:05These are problems that aren't really interesting to Yang, right?
- 59:08So Yang's trying.
- 59:10Couldn't solve him.
- 59:11He's like, okay, maybe I'll try my hand at experimental physics.
- 59:14Fails miserably, like every theoretical physicist does who tries to go into the lab.
- 59:20Just has no idea what he's doing.
- 59:22In his interview, he's actually talking about how the graduate students would literally laugh at him.
- 59:26But they were also best friends with him because he would solve their theoretical problems.
- 59:31Right.
- 59:32But he was just hopeless in the lab.
- 59:34In the lab.
- 59:34Right.
- 59:34So he's there for three and a half years just doing nonsense, breaking shit.
- 59:39And during that time, he publishes independently some papers about the symmetry groups that
- 59:45And group theory and how that can be applied to nuclear fission and nuclear decay.
- 59:52Okay, this catches the eye of Teller again.
- 59:55And Teller comes up to him and he's like, so at this point he's kind of, you know, famous in the University of Chicago because there's not a lot of Chinese students.
- 1:00:03Not like nowadays when there's so many Chinese students in American universities, so many international students in American universities.
- 1:00:10Back then, there's few and far in between.
- 1:00:13And he's so good at theoretical physics.
- 1:00:16And he publishes these papers.
- 1:00:17So Teller comes up to him and he's like, so I heard you're...
- 1:00:21You're doing pretty bad in this lab.
- 1:00:23And he's like, yeah, man, I'm really struggling.
- 1:00:26But Teller says, you know, I liked your paper that you put out.
- 1:00:30You know, if you want to submit that as part of your thesis, I'll be your advisor.
- 1:00:34Because this was something that Teller hadn't even thought about, Edward Teller.
- 1:00:38But he's like, you know, this is interesting stuff.
- 1:00:40So if you want to graduate with a PhD under me, just like make it a little bit longer.
- 1:00:47You know, I can't be like, I can't submit like a three page paper as your thesis, but you know, I could talk if you're doing like a little bit longer.
- 1:00:54He comes back with a little bit longer paper.
- 1:00:56Teller's like, this isn't long enough.
- 1:00:59I was meaning like substantially longer.
- 1:01:01I was trying to be nice.
- 1:01:03So, so, so Young goes back.
- 1:01:06Comes back with a longer paper and Teller's like, all right, this is fine.
- 1:01:10Actually, at a later celebration of Yang's birthday, Teller went up to speak and he talked about how the third submission that Yang had of his paper was still too short.
- 1:01:21But he was just like, this is hopeless.
- 1:01:23Like, this guy's clearly a very good physicist.
- 1:01:27I'm just going to talk to his.
- 1:01:29I'll go to bat for him.
- 1:01:30You know, having Edward Teller go to bat for you is not a bad thing.
- 1:01:35It's not bad at all.
- 1:01:361948, he gets his paper.
- 1:01:41One of the cool things about his time at Chicago was he was actually in a two-person class with Sung Dao Lee under the tutelage of Subramaniam Chandrasekhar.
- 1:01:53Subramaniam Chandrasekhar is one of my heroes, personally.
- 1:01:57He's somebody that I...
- 1:02:00Subramaniam Chandrasekhar is one of the heroes of Indian physics.
- 1:02:05He discovered the Chandrasekhar limit, which is the white dwarf limit, how big a star can get before it can no longer be a white dwarf.
- 1:02:14At the age of like 19 or 20, he discovered this.
- 1:02:16He faced intense racism in Great Britain by someone by the name of Arthur Eddington, who himself, great physicist or whatever, but you know,
- 1:02:27whatever gatekeeper we get it yeah we we get it so he he was hired by the university of chicago and at the time he was working at the york's observatory in wisconsin um he offered this course i forget what the course was actually but only two people signed up it was sungdao lee and yang chen lee yang chung ning okay um he would drive 200 miles from york's observatory to chicago every week to um
- 1:02:56do this course and teach this course.
- 1:02:58But good thing for him, because that course holds the world record for number of Nobel Prizes.
- 1:03:08100% of the attendees of that course, 100% of the attendees of that course won the Nobel Prize.
- 1:03:16No other course has that, you know?
- 1:03:19Because he got two students and both won the Nobel Prize.
- 1:03:22So crazy.
- 1:03:23That's actually pretty great.
- 1:03:24That's a great, like, that's a record that I don't think it's ever going to be beating.
- 1:03:29We're going to put that in the stat locker for FFP when we start the leaderboard.
- 1:03:32Oh, that'll be a great one.
- 1:03:34That's a good one.
- 1:03:34It's like classes.
- 1:03:35Yeah.
- 1:03:35We're going to build out a stats library just like all major professional sports do for when the announcers are like, oh, this is the last time we saw 300 yards, 42, da, da, da, da, da.
- 1:03:46It was in 19, da, da, da.
- 1:03:50We're starting the same stats library, next-gen stats.
- 1:03:53Yeah, next-gen stats.
- 1:03:54And that's going to be one that's never going to be beat.
- 1:03:57You had two students, both won the Nobel Prize.
- 1:04:00100% Nobel Prize winner class.
- 1:04:03Imagine, right?
- 1:04:04So Soong Dao Lee is actually instrumental in the next part of our story.
- 1:04:10Because Soong Dao Lee and Young, they are the ones who start looking at that Tau...
- 1:04:19Theta puzzle that we were talking about, right?
- 1:04:21You got these two identical particles.
- 1:04:23They're decaying in weird ways.
- 1:04:25The parity, there's no conservation of the parity because they're decaying into two and three, which is weird because there's like same size.
- 1:04:33Yeah, same, same, but different.
- 1:04:34But why are they different?
- 1:04:35Why are they different?
- 1:04:36Like, is it that they are different or is it that the laws of physics are a bit different?
- 1:04:41Right, are not...
- 1:04:42The conservation of parity has exceptions.
- 1:04:44Exactly, yeah.
- 1:04:46So Yang Cheng Ning...
- 1:04:48Sorry, right.
- 1:04:49Yang and Lee, they propose a revolutionary idea.
- 1:04:54What they do is they go back and look at all of the literature.
- 1:04:57Okay?
- 1:04:57There's a funny story here where they were in Colombia at the time, and they're searching for parking.
- 1:05:04And they're in the car.
- 1:05:06He talks about this in his memoir.
- 1:05:07They're in the car.
- 1:05:08They're in the car.
- 1:05:09discussing this issue of the theta and the tau.
- 1:05:13And they're like, is parity conserved?
- 1:05:15Like, what's going on?
- 1:05:16And they have this idea, but they're looking for parking.
- 1:05:19They can't find parking because it's Manhattan.
- 1:05:23There's no parking in Manhattan.
- 1:05:25So they park in this, like, restaurant, this Chinese restaurant that hadn't opened yet.
- 1:05:30But, like, you know, the restaurant had parking.
- 1:05:32So they find parking.
- 1:05:33They go into a cafe, and they continue their...
- 1:05:38And what they're really focusing on is, has anyone actually checked if beta decay obeys parity?
- 1:05:45There's been all of these experiments to check that electromagnetism obeys this mirror rule.
- 1:05:51There's been all of these experiments to show that nuclear stuff, like the strong nuclear force, obeys parity.
- 1:05:58the mirror symmetry, but has anyone actually done it for the weak nuclear force, which is what's involved in beta decay?
- 1:06:05So they decide to go through the literature and they actually find out, no, no one has said one way or the other whether beta decay obeys the parity conservation law.
- 1:06:16So they write up a paper and they actually talk about certain experiments that you could do.
- 1:06:21Okay.
- 1:06:22To maybe find out if beta decay is different in the mirror world.
- 1:06:29Yes.
- 1:06:30Okay?
- 1:06:30Yes.
- 1:06:30Everything else is the same.
- 1:06:31Right.
- 1:06:32But beta decay is something that no one's actually bothered to check.
- 1:06:35Okay?
- 1:06:36They contact Chen Cheng Wu.
- 1:06:39who is an experimental physicist at Columbia.
- 1:06:42She's one of the great, great experimental physicists of the 20th century.
- 1:06:48And she was basically the expert in the entire world
- 1:06:53About beta decay and beta decay spectroscopy.
- 1:06:56So they're like, there's one person that we can go to, and it's Qian Zhang Wu.
- 1:07:02They propose this idea, this like, I want to check if this thing is symmetric.
- 1:07:08So Wu comes up with this ingenious experiment.
- 1:07:12Okay.
- 1:07:13Here's what she does.
- 1:07:14She gets cobalt-60, which is an isotope of cobalt.
- 1:07:19Okay, it's got 60 neutrons and protons in its nucleus.
- 1:07:24And what they're going to do is they're going to wait for the cobalt-60 to decay into nickel-60.
- 1:07:31So notice, the atomic number has remained the same, which means what's happened is a neutron has turned into a proton.
- 1:07:38Okay.
- 1:07:39A neutron turning into a proton, that's a neutral charge going into a positive charge, which means it has to release a negative charge.
- 1:07:46Release the negative charge.
- 1:07:47Exactly.
- 1:07:48By the conservation of charge, the charges before and have to remain the same.
- 1:07:52Right.
- 1:07:53So if I've created a positive charge and I started at zero, I need to create a negative charge to balance it out.
- 1:07:58So...
- 1:08:00This is a process of beta decay.
- 1:08:03This is something that has to do with the weak nuclear force.
- 1:08:06The question is, is the electron that gets spit out, does it have a preferred orientation?
- 1:08:14This goes back to our right-handedness, left-handedness thing.
- 1:08:16Exactly.
- 1:08:17Does the electron that gets spit out, does it have a way of only preferring left or right or one of the other?
- 1:08:25Yeah.
- 1:08:25Yeah.
- 1:08:26That's the question.
- 1:08:27It's a very simple experiment.
- 1:08:28Yeah, yeah.
- 1:08:29Right?
- 1:08:30And this is the genius of Wu.
- 1:08:31I mean, the experiment sounds simple.
- 1:08:34It's insane, right?
- 1:08:35You've got to get these cobalt-60 atoms.
- 1:08:38Then you've got to cool it down to near absolute zero because you don't want the cobalt-60 to be— You want to tell which way the electron is moving.
- 1:08:45So you've got to collimate all of the cobalt-60 so that it's all oriented—
- 1:08:50in the same direction.
- 1:08:51The cobalt-60 itself has a spin on its own, right?
- 1:08:54So you want all of the cobalt-60 atoms to be oriented in the same direction, which means you've got to cool everything down to near absolute zero.
- 1:09:01There's something like 10 millikelvin, which is difficult even now.
- 1:09:04But back then, she had to do it at the NIST, the NIST offices in Washington, D.C., because they were experts at making really, really cold things.
- 1:09:13So she actually told them this was in December of 1957.
- 1:09:16Okay.
- 1:09:17Okay.
- 1:09:18Or 1956, actually, December of 1956.
- 1:09:22She goes down to Washington, D.C., and she sets up this apparatus.
- 1:09:24She wants to do it fast because she knows this is going to be big.
- 1:09:28So she's like, no, I am Lady Wu.
- 1:09:32I am in charge of beta decay everywhere around the world.
- 1:09:36I'm going to do this.
- 1:09:37So she gets cobalt-60.
- 1:09:38She cools it down, puts a magnetic field on it so that all of the cobalt-60 atoms, let's say, are oriented in this direction, let's say, away from me.
- 1:09:47So they're pointing in this direction.
- 1:09:49And she waits for the electrons to come out, right, during this decay.
- 1:09:54Now, here is the critical thing, okay?
- 1:09:57There's two scenarios that could happen.
- 1:09:59The cobalt-60 is oriented in one direction.
- 1:10:03The electron could go forward,
- 1:10:05Or it could go backwards, right?
- 1:10:07If my cobalt-60 is oriented in one direction, the electron could spit out forward or backwards.
- 1:10:13Yes.
- 1:10:14Now, they're always going to be...
- 1:10:18the spin is always going to be oriented in the same direction as the cobalt-60 because of conservation of angular momentum, right?
- 1:10:26Like the cobalt-60 has an initial angular momentum that is away from me.
- 1:10:30Yes.
- 1:10:31So the electron that's going out is always going to have an angular momentum that's away from me.
- 1:10:36The question is,
- 1:10:38The direction of motion, is it going to be away from me or towards me?
- 1:10:44Those are the two scenarios, right?
- 1:10:46And in a world that doesn't care about left or right-handedness, both of those directions should be exactly equally probable.
- 1:10:55Okay.
- 1:10:55I should have an equal number of electrons coming from the front as from the back.
- 1:11:01Because I've oriented the cobalt in the front direction, let's say.
- 1:11:05But if the world doesn't care, then the electrons should come out from the front and from the back equally likely.
- 1:11:11Because they're all oriented...
- 1:11:14I mean, sure, the electrons are all right-handed orientation, but if the universe doesn't care about right-handed orientation, then the front and the back should be equally likely.
- 1:11:23That is not what she saw.
- 1:11:25So, okay, got it.
- 1:11:27All of the electrons came out from the back.
- 1:11:31Interesting.
- 1:11:32All of the electrons came out from the back.
- 1:11:33So the universe does care.
- 1:11:35The universe does care.
- 1:11:38That's so funny, because after all of that... After all of that?
- 1:11:41After all that?
- 1:11:43Yeah.
- 1:11:43Yeah.
- 1:11:44But it's insane.
- 1:11:45It does actually matter.
- 1:11:46It does actually matter.
- 1:11:47Left and right handedness is something that the universe does care about.
- 1:11:50This is schematic.
- 1:11:51You've got the magnetic field in one direction.
- 1:11:54The cobalt 60 is oriented in that one direction.
- 1:11:56There's two possibilities.
- 1:11:58The electrons going out front and going out back.
- 1:12:00But the electrons only come out the back because they're constrained by which way they can spin.
- 1:12:06Okay.
- 1:12:07Right?
- 1:12:07So if I could spin this way, I can only come out this way.
- 1:12:11In some mirror world, let's say that I have an anti-cobalt.
- 1:12:16made out of anti-protons and anti-neutrons, and the thing that's coming out is a positron instead of an electron, then it would come out the front.
- 1:12:25This goes back to the same analogy of, like, when we're looking at the mirror, it's the same direction.
- 1:12:32It's...
- 1:12:33Okay.
- 1:12:34So let me take a step back.
- 1:12:35It's crazy, dude.
- 1:12:37So...
- 1:12:39The experiment proved that there's not symmetry in the mirror image.
- 1:12:44No, the mirror image physics is different.
- 1:12:47Is different.
- 1:12:48From our image.
- 1:12:48From our image.
- 1:12:49Yeah.
- 1:12:50Let me get a little bit more specific.
- 1:12:52Okay.
- 1:12:53Okay, let me get a little bit more... Yeah, let me say it this way, okay?
- 1:13:01I've got my cobalt nucleus, right?
- 1:13:03Yes.
- 1:13:03My cobalt nucleus is...
- 1:13:06In this direction, it's spinning clockwise.
- 1:13:08Yes.
- 1:13:09Right?
- 1:13:09In my mirror world, the cobalt nucleus is also spinning clockwise.
- 1:13:13Right.
- 1:13:13Yes?
- 1:13:14Yes.
- 1:13:14Okay.
- 1:13:15So, in my world, the cobalt nucleus is spinning clockwise, but the electrons are shooting out towards me.
- 1:13:25Yes.
- 1:13:26Right?
- 1:13:27Yes.
- 1:13:28In the mirror world, if everything was exactly symmetric...
- 1:13:32The electrons should be shooting towards the mirror Krishna.
- 1:13:36Right.
- 1:13:36Not towards you.
- 1:13:37But it'd be coming towards the real Krishna.
- 1:13:39Right.
- 1:13:40Right.
- 1:13:40Yeah.
- 1:13:41Yeah.
- 1:13:41The physics is different.
- 1:13:42The physics is different.
- 1:13:43You see what I'm saying?
- 1:13:43Yeah.
- 1:13:44Yeah.
- 1:13:44Yeah.
- 1:13:44Yeah.
- 1:13:44Because the spin of the cobalt hasn't changed in the mirror world.
- 1:13:47Yes.
- 1:13:48But...
- 1:13:49If the physics is the same, the electron coming towards me in the mirror world, the electron should be going that way.
- 1:13:54Yes.
- 1:13:54But they'd be coming back this way.
- 1:13:56Back this way.
- 1:13:58So there is not this conservation of parity.
- 1:14:03There's not a conservation of parity when it comes to beta decay.
- 1:14:06When it comes to the weak nuclear force.
- 1:14:07When it comes to the weak nuclear force.
- 1:14:09Specifically.
- 1:14:09So there is, it's one of those things where there is an exception.
- 1:14:12Yeah.
- 1:14:15Specific to, not to gravity, not to the strong nuclear force.
- 1:14:19Not to the electromagnetism either.
- 1:14:22Not to electromagnetism either.
- 1:14:24But the weak, the tiny, tiny with a weakling.
- 1:14:28Yeah.
- 1:14:29The weak nuclear force does not have this conservation law that is true everywhere else, which is fascinating.
- 1:14:35That's crazy.
- 1:14:36No, that is crazy.
- 1:14:37That is dude.
- 1:14:37It's like, cause now we can DM our aliens.
- 1:14:41Right.
- 1:14:41Right.
- 1:14:41We can DM our alien and be like, Hey, prepare some Cobalt 60.
- 1:14:46Right.
- 1:14:47And then orient it in whatever way you want.
- 1:14:51Orient it in whatever magnetic field you want.
- 1:14:53And the electron that comes out, the way it's going to come out... Now, pretend the electron is going out this way.
- 1:14:58Then the way that it...
- 1:15:00The turns, the left, my heart is on the left, the way that it turns.
- 1:15:05Yes, it's left.
- 1:15:06This was Feynman's original Martian problem?
- 1:15:08This is, Feynman, Feynman, like, talked about all of these things in the context of this Martian problem.
- 1:15:16This Martian problem.
- 1:15:17In his Feynman lectures.
- 1:15:18And this is the actual solution to how can you tell the Martian left or right is you can use beta decay or the weak nuclear force as the...
- 1:15:26One area where there's an exception to the conservation of parity as the methodology by which you can communicate left-handedness.
- 1:15:34Left-handedness.
- 1:15:35And now we can do that by simply describing an experiment.
- 1:15:38Right.
- 1:15:38This is huge.
- 1:15:39Right.
- 1:15:39It means the universe does care.
- 1:15:40Okay.
- 1:15:41Yes.
- 1:15:41About left and right.
- 1:15:42Yes.
- 1:15:43Which is so funny.
- 1:15:44That's crazy.
- 1:15:45That's so – and the story arc we got to get there.
- 1:15:49And again, this goes back to why from First Principles Matters so much because people don't just like make things up out of whole cloth.
- 1:15:56You know what I mean?
- 1:15:57There's this decades-long conversation that's going back and forth and people are really thinking –
- 1:16:04about the fundamentals and creating experiments in which to be able to say yes or no.
- 1:16:10And a lot of times it's fail.
- 1:16:11It's not a success until someone like Wu, in this case, creates that experimental design that just perfectly.
- 1:16:18It's just perfect.
- 1:16:19And there's no bells and whistles.
- 1:16:21Right.
- 1:16:21It's just, it's like so obvious.
- 1:16:23Right.
- 1:16:24In retrospect.
- 1:16:25In retrospect, it is, yeah.
- 1:16:27Right.
- 1:16:27Yeah, somebody, yeah.
- 1:16:29That's fascinating.
- 1:16:30It's really unfortunate, actually.
- 1:16:32She didn't win the Nobel Prize for it.
- 1:16:34Sung Dao Lee and Yang won the Nobel Prize, and it really should have been a three-part Nobel Prize.
- 1:16:39And it is one of the most, it's a real shame.
- 1:16:44It's the one that almost every physicist agrees, like without a doubt.
- 1:16:49Wu should have won that Nobel Prize.
- 1:16:51Because there's no Sung Dao Lee and Yang without Wu actually proving it.
- 1:16:55Right, right.
- 1:16:56That was what created the actual experimental.
- 1:16:59Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:17:00And people like Paul Lee were pissed off about it.
- 1:17:03Wigner was pissed off.
- 1:17:04Like, everybody in the community was like, what are you guys doing that you haven't, you didn't give it to Wu?
- 1:17:11It was almost, yeah.
- 1:17:13So it was really unfortunate, you know, for this, you know, giant of physics.
- 1:17:19The seminal figure.
- 1:17:21Seminal figure.
- 1:17:21Like, there's no, like, even, you don't have to, there is, it might be because she was a woman, probably, honestly, back then in the 1950s at the time.
- 1:17:30Yeah, yeah.
- 1:17:32Probably.
- 1:17:33It's so, it's so unfortunate because, you know, it's, it's, it's like clear and obvious how big of a deal that,
- 1:17:42This is.
- 1:17:43We need VAR for the Nobels.
- 1:17:46Yeah.
- 1:17:46Because that was a clear and obvious error by the officials at the time.
- 1:17:49Yeah.
- 1:17:49And at the time, like this was in December, she took off for holidays.
- 1:17:53She canceled her holidays to do this experiment because she knew how big it would be.
- 1:17:57Right.
- 1:17:57Right.
- 1:17:57I mean, and in January, when all of the results came out, even before the paper was published, the paper was published.
- 1:18:05everyone in the physics community was talking about it.
- 1:18:07They were writing letters to each other.
- 1:18:08It was by telegram.
- 1:18:10The paper was under peer review, but it's spread like the new gospel.
- 1:18:13Yeah.
- 1:18:14That parody is no longer a rule in the universe, which is a big, that's a big deal.
- 1:18:19That's a big deal.
- 1:18:20That's a big deal because parody had that pedestal.
- 1:18:24Yeah.
- 1:18:24That was the same as translation in space, translation in time, translation of the energy.
- 1:18:28Yeah.
- 1:18:29Yeah.
- 1:18:29Imagine if someone rolled up the, it's like, Oh, the conservation of energy is not a thing.
- 1:18:33Not a thing.
- 1:18:33Like,
- 1:18:34Yes.
- 1:18:35That would be like, yo, what are you talking about?
- 1:18:37It would be a huge deal.
- 1:18:40It's spread like wildfire across the world, you know, through the telegrams.
- 1:18:47So it's really unfortunate that she didn't win the Nobel Prize.
- 1:18:53And that is what won Young the Nobel Prize.
- 1:18:55Right.
- 1:18:56Okay?
- 1:18:56What he's most known for, actually, nowadays, and I'm just going to go through this real quick because I don't have the expertise yet.
- 1:19:03I'm reading this textbook called Physics from Symmetry.
- 1:19:10I'll put the author.
- 1:19:11I forget the author.
- 1:19:12But it's an amazing textbook, Physics from Symmetry.
- 1:19:15And it's going through...
- 1:19:18talking about how to build up physics from an axiomatic perspective of like, what if the symmetries are axioms?
- 1:19:27How do we build up a universe based on those?
- 1:19:31And that sort of way of thinking about stuff came from something called Young-Mills theory.
- 1:19:37Okay, this is Young-Mills theory.
- 1:19:39His tour de force, the reason why he's considered the great, right?
- 1:19:43Like, this parody stuff is cute, okay?
- 1:19:47The real reason why he's considered, like, one of the greatest of the 20th century is because of the Yang-Mills theory.
- 1:19:52So Yang's been obsessed with symmetry for the very longest time, right?
- 1:19:56And...
- 1:19:58Weill started working on these, Hermann Weill started working on symmetries in physics.
- 1:20:03He piggybacked off of Noter to, and he renamed these symmetries, something called gauge symmetries after like the gauges of railroad tracks and how they're all like, you know, standardized.
- 1:20:15I literally remember being in Terrace at Princeton and hearing any number of you guys talk.
- 1:20:21Someone was constantly on about gauge theory.
- 1:20:24Because...
- 1:20:25constantly dude gaze theory once I mean I'm just getting into it with this textbook and it's like intoxicating how beautiful it is like imagine it's completely inverting the logic of how you want to study the universe right because it's saying like it's postulating a symmetry to derive a force right it's saying we can take it as an axiom
- 1:20:54The fact that these symmetries exist.
- 1:20:56Yes.
- 1:20:56And then ask, what is the kind of universe that we would live in if these symmetries exist?
- 1:21:02Right?
- 1:21:02It's almost, dude, it's like, dare I say, a little religious in some sense.
- 1:21:09It's insane, right?
- 1:21:11So here's the only thing that I'm going to say about sort of how the math that works.
- 1:21:16Yeah.
- 1:21:18We talked about how the wave function, right?
- 1:21:19It's a complex number.
- 1:21:21It's everywhere in space.
- 1:21:22If I change the phase of that wave function, that complex number, and the only thing I care about in terms of observables is the magnitude of that complex number, then it doesn't matter how much it changes the phase.
- 1:21:32As long as I change the phase everywhere, the observable is going to be the same.
- 1:21:36That gives me conservation of charge.
- 1:21:37Okay.
- 1:21:39we can ask, what if I want to change the phase differently everywhere in space and time?
- 1:21:44Yes.
- 1:21:44Okay?
- 1:21:45So instead of a global symmetry, which is where I change the phase everywhere, I change the phase locally.
- 1:21:50Yes.
- 1:21:50Is there a local symmetry that I can do?
- 1:21:52And that's where we... What you can do is you can say, okay, if I change the local phase everywhere, then I can't really do a derivative in the right sense, right?
- 1:22:02Because the derivative, a spatial derivative in some sense, is the change...
- 1:22:07between this quantity and this quantity, divided by how far apart they are.
- 1:22:11Well, if I change this guy and I don't change this guy, now my derivative is really not well-defined.
- 1:22:17If I change them by the same amount, then that change cancels out and my derivative is fine.
- 1:22:21But if it's a local thing, then the derivative is no longer well-defined.
- 1:22:25But what I can do is I can compensate for it.
- 1:22:28And there was...
- 1:22:31There was a famous physicist who actually said, it's kind of like, you know, if every city had its own local currency and they just decided to change their currency denomination or whatever, you would need some way, some exchange rate to make sure that I'm still paying for the right amount of stuff.
- 1:22:50Right?
- 1:22:51That's where a gauge field comes in.
- 1:22:54A gauge field is something you introduce to preserve the local symmetry where it's like, okay, I changed the phase here, but not here.
- 1:23:00Right?
- 1:23:01What do I have to do to compensate for that to make sure that all of my mathematics is still fine?
- 1:23:09I can still do a derivative.
- 1:23:11It's something that becomes like a covariant derivative where it depends on where I'm taking the derivative.
- 1:23:16But all of these things introduce this thing called a gauge field, which is a new entity.
- 1:23:21It can also be known as a connection.
- 1:23:23And the sole purpose of this field is to connect...
- 1:23:26the different symmetry choices that I have in all of these different neighboring points.
- 1:23:29And it provides a rule on how to compare all of my different thingies.
- 1:23:33It's like a currency exchange.
- 1:23:36Yes.
- 1:23:37It's like the easiest analogy.
- 1:23:38It's the easiest way to think about it.
- 1:23:39Just in my head right now in this context.
- 1:23:41Exactly, yeah.
- 1:23:42And it turns out that currency exchange is itself a field that is very, very much real.
- 1:23:49Because that currency exchange has a certain value at each point, right?
- 1:23:53Depending on this city versus this city, this city versus this city, that exchange rate has a different value at each point.
- 1:24:00So it becomes kind of like a field.
- 1:24:02Yep, that makes sense.
- 1:24:02Right?
- 1:24:03Kind of like... And so that field permeates space-time, and the real miracle...
- 1:24:09of gauge theory, is that that field is, when it's curved, when it like changes, that exerts a force on the stuff that it's affecting.
- 1:24:23And that force...
- 1:24:26is it can manifest in real things.
- 1:24:29For example, in the electromagnetic field, that force is the electromagnetic force.
- 1:24:34That is the photon.
- 1:24:35The thing from the field, that gauge field is like the, the electromagnetic four vector that becomes a photon.
- 1:24:44Okay, now this is getting crazy.
- 1:24:46But that's what Yang Mills was doing, dude.
- 1:24:48Okay.
- 1:24:49And Yang Mills was like, this is crazy.
- 1:24:51What if I take this to new heights and I start applying it to the strong nuclear force?
- 1:24:57Right.
- 1:24:57And the weak nuclear force.
- 1:25:01He had a shared office at Brookhaven at the time.
- 1:25:04Brookhaven had this thing called the Cosmotron.
- 1:25:06And he shared an office with Robert Mills.
- 1:25:09And the two of them start talking about Mills' fascination with symmetry, right?
- 1:25:15And the two of them start thinking, okay, how can I make this something that has to do with nuclear forces, right?
- 1:25:21Can I make a quantum field theory for nuclear binding that explains all of the physics just based on symmetry?
- 1:25:28It becomes, it's the start of something called Yang-Mills theory, right?
- 1:25:32It was not at its, when they devised it, it was not at its final form.
- 1:25:37There were still problems.
- 1:25:38They were getting these things called like massless particles, where like everything had no mass.
- 1:25:42And they're like, nah.
- 1:25:44We have some photons.
- 1:25:45Yeah, yeah, but not everything has no mass.
- 1:25:48There were still a bunch of things that had to happen.
- 1:25:50Steven Weinberg came in later to say, okay, we can actually combine that gauge theory with a kind of symmetry breaking, which...
- 1:25:59We don't have to get into, but he introduced this idea of symmetry breaking.
- 1:26:03Then we get something like the Higgs, which comes in to give mass to the W and Z bosons.
- 1:26:09And so all of the standard model starts percolating out of this idea that we can take symmetries of stuff, right, and start creating physics.
- 1:26:20From that axiomatic kind of framework.
- 1:26:24We are definitely – I have so many thoughts about this.
- 1:26:29But are you starting to see why he's such a big deal in the 20th century?
- 1:26:33No, I 100% get it.
- 1:26:36The parody experiment is nice, but this stuff is just like, whoa.
- 1:26:41I feel – the other time I felt the same way as this was when we talk about the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.
- 1:26:47it makes me feel the same level of like,
- 1:26:53yeah you know what i mean it makes you feel weird in a nice way but in a weird way right like it's it's from just again for my from my layman's perspective like that's the easiest like category analogy that i can because i can much more almost intuitively understand like gr and like where einstein was coming from like that's just for whatever reason easier for me to yeah he was a sage that's what i mean he was a sage that's what we yeah not a magician not a
- 1:27:21But this just feels like hand wavy and it works.
- 1:27:24And it works.
- 1:27:25And it works.
- 1:27:26But it's just like, but like, can we go back to like, wait a minute.
- 1:27:31Yeah.
- 1:27:31Yeah.
- 1:27:32And I mean, I'm still honestly, I'll be honest.
- 1:27:34I'm still kind of there with you on that.
- 1:27:36Whoa.
- 1:27:37Right.
- 1:27:38I still I need to reread this textbook.
- 1:27:39I need to go through like some quantum field theory textbooks to really try to get.
- 1:27:46What is going on?
- 1:27:47In my coursework, I went all the way up to quantum three in my graduate school.
- 1:27:53So we did like elementary quantum field theory.
- 1:27:56I know how to derive the Dirac equation and things like that.
- 1:28:00But Young Mills, I'm still sort of wrapping my head around.
- 1:28:04It's like you're the way you've created the journey.
- 1:28:07But that's the way that I've talked about it now is sort of how I've constructed.
- 1:28:13Right.
- 1:28:14The understanding in my head.
- 1:28:16Right.
- 1:28:16You know, and because I know you so well, it helps me.
- 1:28:19Like you've created a construction that I can engage in at a very, very rudimentary level.
- 1:28:25But you've at least given me the Lego blocks and the building blocks of the framework of like what it is and why it matters.
- 1:28:34And like why it's this like this inversion of the way to think about things by starting from this like some axiomatic symmetry.
- 1:28:41Yeah.
- 1:28:42Argument.
- 1:28:43Argument as like your starting point to then build around.
- 1:28:48Yeah.
- 1:28:49Versus like the other.
- 1:28:52It's just.
- 1:28:52Yeah.
- 1:28:53My brain.
- 1:28:54Yeah.
- 1:28:55This is, look, for those watching, this is what happens if we only do one story.
- 1:29:00Yeah.
- 1:29:00Yeah, because then I like really went in on it.
- 1:29:03Then we just go in.
- 1:29:05And so if you're still listening at this point in the pod, number one, leave a comment so we know that you actually like are on the journey with us.
- 1:29:14Yeah.
- 1:29:15Because part of this is like I really am trying to grok these concepts.
- 1:29:19Yeah.
- 1:29:19And create at least a framework in my mind of what's happening here.
- 1:29:23Yeah.
- 1:29:24such that as i decide what direction i want to take my academic interest for the rest of my life i'm getting this nice potpourri buffet of everything yeah qft is a little interesting but i think i'm going to stick with uh stick with you know whatever sea gas thing yeah go in that direction i mean this stuff is just so deep i just even i'm like as i'm like thinking about it
- 1:29:48As I read, I have to read the sections over and over again to make sure I get every little thing.
- 1:29:53Because it's just so beautiful.
- 1:29:55And I'm like, this can't be real.
- 1:29:57Right.
- 1:29:57Right.
- 1:29:58Right.
- 1:29:58That like, what, we're just, so like the unitary two by two matrices that have a determinant of one, like, are all of a sudden, like, what?
- 1:30:10So that's just the world?
- 1:30:14is just, you know?
- 1:30:17This is nerd paradise.
- 1:30:19Yeah.
- 1:30:20I know there are going to be some people who will be like, exactly.
- 1:30:23Yeah.
- 1:30:23Like who just can empathize and sympathize.
- 1:30:26It doesn't make any sense to me, but at the same time, it's making so much sense.
- 1:30:31That it's just like, what?
- 1:30:33Why does this work?
- 1:30:35I don't, I don't, I don't.
- 1:30:36It's weird, man.
- 1:30:37So Young-Mills theory is like really, really crazy.
- 1:30:40I think we... Like the fact that the standard model works this way.
- 1:30:44Right.
- 1:30:44Right?
- 1:30:44And all of the particles obey these laws that just come out of symmetry principles.
- 1:30:50Right.
- 1:30:51Of just like, oh, I can do something to my thingy and it doesn't change.
- 1:30:56That means that there's a conservation of baryon number.
- 1:30:59That means there's a conservation of charge.
- 1:31:02That means there's a conservation of color.
- 1:31:04What are we?
- 1:31:04What?
- 1:31:05The fractal community is going to have a field day.
- 1:31:09It's crazy, dude.
- 1:31:11Everything is fractal.
- 1:31:12Yeah.
- 1:31:13Everything is symmetry.
- 1:31:13Yeah.
- 1:31:14Yeah, I mean, okay, so to close out on the story of Yong, he settled in the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton for a while.
- 1:31:20Yes.
- 1:31:22There's a photo of him with all of the classic...
- 1:31:25Wait, it's so funny.
- 1:31:26When I was setting this up, I was like, oh, that looks like Princeton.
- 1:31:28Yeah, it's, you know, the window, like the table.
- 1:31:33No, it is.
- 1:31:34It's the table and the window and the way the trees are.
- 1:31:39You just know it's Princeton.
- 1:31:40I love how you also did not say anything.
- 1:31:42No, because I wanted you to, I wanted to be like, yeah, no, that was actually Princeton.
- 1:31:46That was at the Institute for Advanced Study.
- 1:31:47The architecture is all the same in that town.
- 1:31:50In that town, it's like there's a little bit of gothicness.
- 1:31:52Yes.
- 1:31:53In like the Rocky college and like Blair, but then most of it is just like that classic American, like colonial architecture.
- 1:32:00100%.
- 1:32:01So he moved to the state university of New York at Stony Brook, where he was the Albert Einstein professor.
- 1:32:07Yeah.
- 1:32:09Then he actually became the first director of the Institute for Theoretical Physics there.
- 1:32:14Now it's called the C.N.
- 1:32:16Yang Institute at Stony Brook University.
- 1:32:19He was really big on scientific diplomacy.
- 1:32:20So in 1971, in the Nixon era, when China-U.S. tensions sort of thawed, he went back to China.
- 1:32:27And he helped Chinese physics recover from that cultural revolution, which was...
- 1:32:34you know, really bad for academia and all of this other stuff.
- 1:32:38Right.
- 1:32:38Um, he established a committee on educational exchange with China.
- 1:32:42He returned to Tsinghua university.
- 1:32:45Um,
- 1:32:46And in his 1957 Nobel Prize speech, he actually described himself as a product of both Chinese and Western cultures in harmony and in conflict.
- 1:32:58I thought that was really interesting.
- 1:33:01So I looked really into this.
- 1:33:04There was an interview that was done by Stony Brook University that asked him, what did you mean by that?
- 1:33:09What do you mean by that?
- 1:33:10Yeah, what do you mean by in harmony and in conflict?
- 1:33:13I'm a product of Chinese and Western traditions.
- 1:33:20He went into a lot of Chinese history.
- 1:33:22He started talking about how China had this amazing 5,000, 6,000-year-old storied history, kind of went into decline in the 19th century, and the British were trying to carve up China with the Opium Wars and all that other stuff.
- 1:33:40In 1900, there was the Boxer Rebellion.
- 1:33:42I don't know if you remember this.
- 1:33:43I remember this from AP World History.
- 1:33:45I had to learn about it.
- 1:33:46The Boxer Rebellion was a way for the Chinese to fight back on the imperialists.
- 1:33:52There was an alliance of eight nations.
- 1:33:56It was the U.S., Russia, Germany, Japan, Italy, Britain, France, Austria, Hungary.
- 1:34:01So all of the guys who were...
- 1:34:04fighting during World War II, all of these imperialist nations, they came together to subdue the Boxer Rebellion in 1900 and,
- 1:34:14They asked for reparations because that always works.
- 1:34:18And something like hundreds of millions of ounces of silver, which is an astronomical thing at the time from China in reparations for the Boxer Rebellion.
- 1:34:28Ten years after that rebellion, the U.S. Congress passed a law saying that part of the U.S. spoils from all of that silver was going to go back to China to...
- 1:34:39fund academia and scholarships.
- 1:34:42So they actually funded Tsinghua University in Beijing.
- 1:34:45They started Tsinghua University, which is where his dad was employed, where he sort of got his start in academia.
- 1:34:53They also funded scholarships, which is the same scholarship program that he came to the U.S. in.
- 1:34:59So it was this full circle sort of thing that Yang...
- 1:35:05was involved with he became very emotional but that's what he meant when it's in harmony and in conflict right because in conflict that's what started it but in harmony he comes to the united states he goes to chicago earns his degree um under edward teller goes on to be one of the great great physicists um
- 1:35:27of the 20th century.
- 1:35:29After his retirement from Stony Brook, he goes back to China.
- 1:35:34He goes back to his alma mater, Xinhua University, becomes the honorary director of the newly established Institute for Advanced Study over there.
- 1:35:43He really goes back and returns and pours a lot of effort into advancing fundamental disciplines and cultivating fundamentalism.
- 1:35:51a new generation of scientific talent in China.
- 1:35:54And a lot of people give him a lot of credit for where China is in fundamental physics today.
- 1:35:59I was going to say, this is what we talked about in a previous episode.
- 1:36:01In the U.S., we still have this probably outdated conception around scientific research in China and,
- 1:36:08as all being basically driven by this great power war between the U S and China. And so there's an incentive to basically fudge the numbers in order to project this idea that they're making these advancements that are effectively hot air in that conception of, you know, that conception of, you know, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of, that conception of
- 1:36:26It may have been true 20, 30 years ago, but it is certainly not true today.
- 1:36:31And you can not only see that in the fundamental research side, but you can also see that in how that research ends up in end-user products, where the best phones, the best cars, like all the frontier, modern, Western things that we have historically been like, with the exception of really AI right now, which is still, you know, we still have the edge.
- 1:36:51The Huawei stock phones are better.
- 1:36:53The Yang Wang cars are better.
- 1:36:57Not only... That's proven by them selling in the West, right?
- 1:37:02And feature for feature.
- 1:37:03And so this is like a real...
- 1:37:06You can certainly say that some of these seminal figures, their roots that they've now reestablished are clearly bearing fruit.
- 1:37:13Yeah.
- 1:37:13And the evidence of that is undeniable at this point.
- 1:37:16Exactly, yeah.
- 1:37:17It's, oh my god.
- 1:37:18Yeah, exactly.
- 1:37:19And he was an instrumental part of that reawakening of China's fundamental science and fundamental physics ecosystem.
- 1:37:29In 2015, he actually renounced his U.S. citizens so he could obtain and resume his Chinese citizenship.
- 1:37:35He spoke candidly pretty much about this journey.
- 1:37:39He actually said that when he became a U.S. citizen, his father never forgave him for that until he lived, which that's crazy.
- 1:37:46And I can understand.
- 1:37:47Like, I mean, my dad would never do that.
- 1:37:48But if your dad does that and you want to, you know, I can understand.
- 1:37:52So he went back to his Chinese citizenship.
- 1:37:56citizenship.
- 1:37:57He loved the United States.
- 1:37:59He called it a beautiful country that had given him, given him incredible opportunities to pursue science.
- 1:38:04He's also not one of these evangelists, these particle physics evangelists.
- 1:38:08When China wanted to make the next particle accelerator, he was actually against it because he was like, particle physics is not like going places.
- 1:38:18Yeah.
- 1:38:18Yeah.
- 1:38:19What are you going to do with a larger accelerator?
- 1:38:21You're not going to find new particles.
- 1:38:23You're just going to make a bigger accelerator.
- 1:38:25Yeah.
- 1:38:27And everyone in the particle physics community didn't talk to him for like two years or something.
- 1:38:32But he was very candid about what he thought about where physics is going.
- 1:38:40It's an incredible life that he lived.
- 1:38:43you know, coming up during the war, during World War II in China, which is not the best place to be in World War II.
- 1:38:53It's one of the worst, in fact, given all of the atrocities that happened under Japanese imperialism there.
- 1:39:00He managed to make it out, managed to create a name for himself in America, managed to not only create a name, but like...
- 1:39:07He's sitting down with Einstein and Feynman and the big guys, and he's holding his own.
- 1:39:14And to those in the high-energy physics community and the particle physics community and the mathematical physics community, Young is...
- 1:39:25one of the Mount Rushmores.
- 1:39:27Young Mills theory is really, really fundamental.
- 1:39:32And I hope you get an idea of, now that I've talked to you about what it really means, how it turns its head, how it turns the head of all of physics to become this axiomatic kind of pursuit from symmetry to laws rather than from laws to the other way around.
- 1:39:49Everything else.
- 1:39:50Yeah, he died very recently, and we have one final photo of Chinese students lined up at Tsinghua University to pay tribute with photos, with flowers.
- 1:40:01There was a line to pay respects to him.
- 1:40:05He was a huge deal in China, as he should be.
- 1:40:07As he should be.
- 1:40:08He was the first Chinese to win the Nobel Prize, along with Tsung-da-li, so, you know, together.
- 1:40:14Yeah.
- 1:40:17But yeah, he's completely transformed physics in the 20th century, right?
- 1:40:23One could say there's few people that you could say is the father of the standard model, but he'd be one of them.
- 1:40:30Yeah.
- 1:40:31It's just, what a journey.
- 1:40:33Yeah, yeah.
- 1:40:34One big story to one of the goats of the 20th century, Nobel Prize winner.
- 1:40:40I know it was long, but I really had to, I mean, I had to share with you all of the things that I found.
- 1:40:47I mean, I knew about Young Mills Theory, but not to the extent.
- 1:40:51Yeah.
- 1:40:51Yeah.
- 1:40:52It's just an incredible...
- 1:40:55an incredible life story.
- 1:40:58It has everything.
- 1:41:00Yeah.
- 1:41:00It has war, love, geopolitics, fundamental research.
- 1:41:07You know, those who should have been there with you, those who were not able to be there with you.
- 1:41:13This, this sort of intersectionality, like, you know, globalists, everyone's like, Oh, the globalists are terrible.
- 1:41:19I mean, you know, we are, we have now been given this gift to,
- 1:41:24uh, because again, we have allowed smart folks to come in and go to institutions like Chicago, go to institutions like go to Stony Brook, um, and give back something that is just, I'm going to be thinking about this one for, for some time.
- 1:41:42This was our one big story, uh, on one of the goats of physics, uh, young Chang Ning, uh,
- 1:41:50both on this parody concept, conservation of parody and Young Mills theory, Nobel prize winner, and,
- 1:41:58We're going to claim he's a Princetonian.
- 1:41:59Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:42:00It counts.
- 1:42:01He was there.
- 1:42:02He was there.
- 1:42:02It counts.
- 1:42:03Guys, there's a picture of him there.
- 1:42:04I sat where he was sitting.
- 1:42:06Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:42:07So we'll take the win.
- 1:42:08But in all seriousness...
- 1:42:09Probably drank a few beers there on that table, too.
- 1:42:11A hundred percent.
- 1:42:13To what a wonderful life lived.
- 1:42:15And just...
- 1:42:17This is meant to be a love letter to the work.
- 1:42:20And maybe unlocking interest for some listeners who might not have...
- 1:42:24been interested in this area that one day may continue on the legacy and build on the foundation that's been here, or that's been built rather.
- 1:42:33As always, my name is Lester Nare, joined by my co-host and our resident PhD, Krishna Chowdhury.
- 1:42:40Thank you for joining us for this deep dive special episode.
- 1:42:43We will be back next week.
- 1:42:46This is From First Principles.