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Jack Millers' Miraculous Escape & The Best MotoGP Battle Ever! Malaysian GP Review: Pit Talk MotoGP · Pit Talk

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  Speaker 1: The Malaysian Grand Prix put on a thrilling spectacle and
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  Speaker 1: over three unforgettable laps, two rivals traded the lead. Are
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  Speaker 1: staggering eleven times pushing led you caddies to the absolute edge.
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  Speaker 1: With the title fight going down to the final round,
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  Speaker 1: who will come out on top and become this is champion.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rinita Vanmilan, and of course we have
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  Speaker 1: Fox Sports Moto GP guru mister Matt Clayton. Matt Malaysia
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  Speaker 1: was crazy and I feel like putting the whole title
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  Speaker 1: fight to the side for a second. We have to
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  Speaker 1: start this pod being the Aussie Moto GP podcast about
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  Speaker 1: Jack Miller's miraculous escape after that first lap collision which
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  Speaker 1: led to a red flag. I still can't believe he
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  Speaker 1: walked away from that one.
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable ronetta really and there's something about that sequence of corners.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, let's face it, Sepang was designed to be
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  Speaker 2: a car track. It was designed for Formula one. It's
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  Speaker 2: obviously Formula one's moved on from there since and it's
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  Speaker 2: now become a Motor GP staple with testing and what
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  Speaker 2: have you. But that sequence of corters at the start
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  Speaker 2: of that lap in a pack battle is the absolute
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  Speaker 2: just about the worst on the calendar, quite frankly. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the unfortunate things when you work in motorsport
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  Speaker 2: for a very long time, which I have, is that
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  Speaker 2: you occasionally have to write about fatalities. And I've done
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  Speaker 2: this numerous times with bikes and cars, and whenever anyone
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  Speaker 2: falls off at Malaysia, it's hard not to sort of
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  Speaker 2: just instantly get a flashback to Marcosimonicelli and having been
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  Speaker 2: there that day having to deal with that, and so
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  Speaker 2: obviously it wasn't as bad as that in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the accident on Sunday, But when you see a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of riders going down in the middle of the pack
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  Speaker 2: is one thing. And then when you see one of
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  Speaker 2: those riders is the writer that most of our audience
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  Speaker 2: engages with the most, with Jack Miller, And then when
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  Speaker 2: you see him not moving and the medical car out
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  Speaker 2: there for a significant period, you start to become really
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  Speaker 2: really worried. I know that Jack always has family at
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  Speaker 2: this race too, so look absolutely miraculous that he got
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  Speaker 2: away with it. The vision, I know about you, but
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  Speaker 2: the vision of him walking back under his own steam
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  Speaker 2: to the pit box before the restarted race even happened,
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  Speaker 2: was probably the most startled I was for the entire weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I could not believe given where we saw him ten
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  Speaker 2: minutes before that. He was just wandering back to the
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  Speaker 2: pit box with his wife Ruby and his assistant Thomas,
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  Speaker 2: just to go wash the race on a TV that
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  Speaker 2: he couldn't be in, and he'd been laying on the
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  Speaker 2: ground surrounded by medics ten to fifteen minutes prior. That
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  Speaker 2: was incredible. I could not believe that that was happening,
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  Speaker 2: But you mentioned it, how lucky was he? And we
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  Speaker 2: were swapping messages at the time when everyone commented on
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  Speaker 2: Jack's head hitting the back of Fabio's Yamaha, I had
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  Speaker 2: spotted really quickly in the background that I saw Juan
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  Speaker 2: Meir's bike sort of jump in the background, and I
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  Speaker 2: roughly knew where Jack was. I was on the track,
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  Speaker 2: and I thought, he's either run over Jack's head or
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  Speaker 2: he's run over Jack's legs. And if you're going to
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  Speaker 2: pick one or the other, legs better, not good, but
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  Speaker 2: legs better. And I said to you at the time,
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  Speaker 2: said I think MEA's run over his legs, because he
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  Speaker 2: was almost at walking pace at that time, but he
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  Speaker 2: came through the corner and there's just a pair of
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  Speaker 2: legs in the way and there's nowhere to go, and
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  Speaker 2: he effectively had to run over Jack's legs to not
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  Speaker 2: fall off himself. And it was unbelievable how lucky Jack was.
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  Speaker 2: And I think both Fabio and Joanmir went to visit
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  Speaker 2: Jack immediately after the actual restarted race, and we're pretty
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  Speaker 2: stunned that he was okay with Joan Miir like Jack
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  Speaker 2: was cracking jokes. It's a couple of bruises to be fine,
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  Speaker 2: and Joanmir is like typical Jack, Odie, he would do this,
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  Speaker 2: But we dodged a ball at there, didn't.
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  Speaker 1: We We dodgably even you just bringing it up like
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  Speaker 1: sitting on that sofar like you said, Marcus sim and Shellie,
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  Speaker 1: this is all these thoughts that we're thinking about, and
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  Speaker 1: it almost brings the year, the season, what these writers
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  Speaker 1: are doing back down to reality and the fact that
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  Speaker 1: these writers are putting themselves on the line each and
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  Speaker 1: every weekend purely for our entertainment, and it is their job. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but when you see an accident like that, and you
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  Speaker 1: see Jack laying there, and I'm so thankful that the
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  Speaker 1: broadcast didn't show the crash multiple times like they have
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  Speaker 1: done in the past. I felt like that was a
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  Speaker 1: really positive outcome from it, because at the time, we,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, we didn't know that Jack was okay.
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  Speaker 1: You see the medics around, We saw the overhead helicopter shot.
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  Speaker 1: I think they played the crash once and that was it,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought, brilliant. If something has happened here, they're
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  Speaker 1: doing the right thing about it. But then, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: when we saw Jack up and walking when the warm
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  Speaker 1: up lap was on, Oh that sireh, relief that I did.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that was intense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, massive too. And you know, obviously from a
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  Speaker 2: journalistic perspective, and just because I've been around it for
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  Speaker 2: a while, I just naturally know Jack and the family
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  Speaker 2: better than any of the other writers on the Grid.
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  Speaker 2: It's just because we've got a shared passport and because
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  Speaker 2: I've been around for long enough, so there's a personal
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  Speaker 2: you know, as much as you're being a professional in
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  Speaker 2: a situation like that, there's a personal connection here too,
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  Speaker 2: because I know how Sonya, Jack's mum would have reacted
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  Speaker 2: to that, because she struggles to watch the races at
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  Speaker 2: the best of times, and so you know, I immediately
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  Speaker 2: got on the phone when it was appropriate to check
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  Speaker 2: in with her, And there's all those aspects. But the
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  Speaker 2: worst bit is that sort of between period where you've
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  Speaker 2: seen the accident and you don't have a confirmation like
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  Speaker 2: he has a broken leg, he is injured, he is
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  Speaker 2: not injured. It is that middle period of not knowing.
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  Speaker 2: That's the absolute worst part of all of this, because
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  Speaker 2: you're not thinking. You're thinking of not for yourself, for
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  Speaker 2: your professional means, but you're thinking of what's his family thinking,
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  Speaker 2: like do they know more than us? Do they know anything?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're the sister of a race eater had
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  Speaker 2: this work, So no information is the absolute worst thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny you just saying that, because it's straightway. Flashback
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  Speaker 1: to my brother when he was with Kawsaki Well Superbikes
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  Speaker 1: just before he retired Round one Philip Island ysh going
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  Speaker 1: down Lucky Heights and at the time got his legs
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  Speaker 1: stuck in the tile wall and then all that drama
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  Speaker 1: which ultimately led to him retiring. But you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: that unknown We didn't know what happened to Chris because
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  Speaker 1: we didn't see it on the TV, or we know
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  Speaker 1: that he's in the medical center. We couldn't go and
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  Speaker 1: see him. It's just you're in this limbo. What is happening?
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  Speaker 1: Why can't we grow?
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  Speaker 2: Can we help?
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  Speaker 1: What is going on? Obviously ultimately he's okay, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's this.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot and no information. It's just human nature
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  Speaker 2: that you default to the worst possible outcome because no
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  Speaker 2: one's ever like, oh, I don't know anything, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure it'll be fine. Like most people don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: In a situation like that, You default to, Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: I hope they're okay. So very very pleased to see
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  Speaker 2: Jack walk away. Not surprised that brad Ben didn't take
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  Speaker 2: the restart because of the point of impact. He was
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  Speaker 2: a guy hit the ground the hardest on that shoulder.
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  Speaker 2: But watching Fabio Couaaterero Stumbley's way to get on the
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  Speaker 2: spare bike was pretty extraordinary before the race, and then
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  Speaker 2: watching what Fabio did with the spare bike and the
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  Speaker 2: race was pretty amazing as well. But we got super
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  Speaker 2: super lucky that not knowing bit was the worst bit.
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  Speaker 2: But Rinita one more thing before we sort of put
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  Speaker 2: a bow on the Jack Miller first lap accident in Malaysia.
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  Speaker 2: This is one of the sort of unintended consequences of
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  Speaker 2: Dawner changing the sport for twenty twenty three in that
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  Speaker 2: we now have twice the number of race starts that
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  Speaker 2: we used to have because we have sprints, and given
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  Speaker 2: the way modern day mortor GP is raced, the first
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  Speaker 2: few laps are so critical because we're talking about spiky
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  Speaker 2: tire pressure and just the inability of these riders to
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  Speaker 2: really race one another because of the arrow and the machinery.
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  Speaker 2: The first laps of any race now become super critical
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  Speaker 2: and maybe more fraught than they used to be. And
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  Speaker 2: now we've got twice a number of race starts, and
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  Speaker 2: so over the course of a season, you know, you've
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  Speaker 2: got forty race starts now, not twenty. So it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of remarkable.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: All we're doing really is increasing the percentage chance of
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  Speaker 2: incidents like this happening because we're racing impacts like this now.
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  Speaker 2: This track is predictably very problematic, as I mentioned before
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  Speaker 2: in terms of corner layout, But it's one of the
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  Speaker 2: unintended consequences of this, you know, for more entertainment and
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  Speaker 2: for the fans, like you said, but the riders are
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  Speaker 2: doing twice a number of starts that they used to
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  Speaker 2: so things like this are probably more inevitable than they
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  Speaker 2: used to be.
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  Speaker 1: You just mentioned there about how so many races starts,
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  Speaker 1: And one thing I did here over the weekend was
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  Speaker 1: Fabri Corduo actually raced on Sunday with a used retire
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  Speaker 1: and that was because he wanted to get a really
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  Speaker 1: good qualifying because he knew how important it was talking
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  Speaker 1: about how much those midfield battles really just chew through
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  Speaker 1: everything and you can't work your way up to the front.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why I thought it was really interesting, is
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  Speaker 1: we don't often hear that normally. These riders they'll do
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  Speaker 1: they're qualifying on new tires, and they'll do their races
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  Speaker 1: on new tires. When we say new tires, they are
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  Speaker 1: going out, they'll do it maybe a lap, and then
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  Speaker 1: they'll probably come in and even change it when they're
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  Speaker 1: sitting on that sartgrid. But for Fabrio, he went out
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  Speaker 1: on a used retire, so that was big for him.
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  Speaker 1: And then Sunday's Sunday's Grand Prix, he was p six
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  Speaker 1: or seven YEP and then Saturday Sprint he was P. Five,
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  Speaker 1: So he was the first non jew Caddie on Saturday
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  Speaker 1: as well, and the first time that has been a
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  Speaker 1: Japanese manufacturer all seasons, So what is really starting to
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  Speaker 1: make headways here well?
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  Speaker 2: And also Alex Rinz finishing in the top ten in
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  Speaker 2: the Grand Prix for the first time this year as well,
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  Speaker 2: so they had a really really good weekend. And it's
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  Speaker 2: interesting we've talked a bit about this this year with
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  Speaker 2: Yamahara and Honda sort of cast to drift at the back,
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  Speaker 2: and there's been a tendency to put him in the
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  Speaker 2: same basket because you know, they're both Japanese manufacturers who've
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  Speaker 2: won a lot in the past, and you know they
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  Speaker 2: have been well away from the fire at the front.
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  Speaker 2: But my point with these two is, I think Honda
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  Speaker 2: is still trying to work out how to get back.
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  Speaker 2: I think Yamaha has worked out how to do it,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just going to take them time to get back.
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  Speaker 2: I think Yamaha has a pathway and I think Honda's
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  Speaker 2: still looking for one, and I think that's the difference now.
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  Speaker 2: I think look Honda to have made progress in the
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  Speaker 2: back half of this year. I think shahane' Zarko has
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  Speaker 2: been particularly good in the second half of this season,
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  Speaker 2: but there's some way off Yamaha, and I think you
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  Speaker 2: look at what Yamaha is going to do next year.
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  Speaker 2: They've they're one of the few lineups that's going to
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  Speaker 2: retain the same two riders, which is bizarre to think
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  Speaker 2: that they're both Quaerra and Rin's back. They're also going
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  Speaker 2: to have two more b on the grid next year,
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: will be taking obviously a big interest in that with
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  Speaker 2: Jack Miller joining Pramak Yamaha Pramaha sorry box check. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think they're really moving forward. And so for them
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  Speaker 2: to have a result like this at a track where
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  Speaker 2: they went to preseason testing and massively struggled there, So
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: to go back there nine months later and have a
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  Speaker 2: result like that, it was exceptional. And look, I know
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: they're paying Fabio a lot of money, but rides like Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: he's still, to my mind one of the best three
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  Speaker 2: four guys on the grid, and you know, yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: get what you pay for. He is an exceptional rider.
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  Speaker 2: We've already seen him win a World championship and if
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  Speaker 2: Yamaha give him anything resembling a bike that can fight
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  Speaker 2: for anything meaningful, he will be right back up there
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  Speaker 2: really really quickly.
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  Speaker 1: I think, oh, one hundred percent, I completely agree with you.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: I think he's one of the most talented writers on
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: the grid, along with obviously Pecko and Jorge and Mark Marquez.
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  Speaker 1: But you mentioned Zako there, and I thought was really
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  Speaker 1: interesting just talking about the Japanese manufacturers. We can see
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  Speaker 1: this whole new wave coming in with young I wonder
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: if Honda are going to start to do that, because
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: Honda are still very traditional in how they do things.
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  Speaker 1: It's no Luca Marini and you and Mia are the
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  Speaker 1: factory riders and Jon Zako and Takanakagami are the privateer team.
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  Speaker 1: So there is a clear cut between them. Where what
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  Speaker 1: we've heard so far from their guys at Yamaha, even
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  Speaker 1: Max Bardolini and Fabrica Dero, they're going, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: Pramaha come in, they are with us. We are all together,
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  Speaker 1: the four of us. And I wonder if now we're
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: seeing these results come from Zako, is maybe our Honda
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  Speaker 1: starting to change their mentality a little bit or do
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  Speaker 1: they need to change that mentality a little bit?
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: Well, they need to. I don't think there's any doubt
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  Speaker 2: about that. I mean, they have a hierarchy at Honda,
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: but it's a vertical hierarchy and I'm doing signs with
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: my hands here, which is useless for a podcast. But
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  Speaker 2: Yamaha will have this more flatline hierarchy next year and
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: that we four bikes on one line, and yes, the
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: factory guys will get the newest equipment first, but it's
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: not going to be a case of the satellite team
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  Speaker 2: running a whole bunch of hand me down stuffs. And
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: they've gone with that Olivera Miller rider lineup for Pramaha.
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  Speaker 2: You could go with a young guy if you were
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  Speaker 2: just going to sacrifice one of your seats for a young,
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  Speaker 2: fast guy who might not get great results. He's bringing
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  Speaker 2: some money to the team, like Somcat tantra Ela. Next year,
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  Speaker 2: they're almost got an overqualified satellite team lineup in some
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: respects with Olivera and Miller. But there's a reason for
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: that because that bike needs development and they're going to
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  Speaker 2: get that with two super experienced heads who've basically ridden
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: every other bike there is on the grid. If you're
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: operating in this flat line structure, I think they'll actually
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: get to their peak much quicker because of who they've
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  Speaker 2: gotten the second team. We know that Jack's been very
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: instrumental with to Caddy behind the scenes, testing a lot
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: of the developments they had Olivera's super experience. They're about
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  Speaker 2: the same age they've had the pretty similar motor GPCVS.
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  Speaker 2: I actually think it's a really smart rider line up
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  Speaker 2: for them. The difficulty for Jack and I am going
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  Speaker 2: to sort of go deep in the weeds with this
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  Speaker 2: for a piece at some point is that, because Jack's
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  Speaker 2: only on a one year contract at Oliverason too, if
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  Speaker 2: the bike gets demonstrably better, then Yamaha might think, oh,
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: it's now time to bring the fast young guy in
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  Speaker 2: and the guy who'll get sacrificed will be Jack, probably
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  Speaker 2: because he's on the shorter of the two contracts. But
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: then if Jack proves to be the best developmental and
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  Speaker 2: technical rider of the two behind the scenes with Oliveria,
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  Speaker 2: then you've got a problem if you're Yamaha, because you
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  Speaker 2: probably shouldn't be keeping both of them for the long term.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: But which one don't you keep? So that's super interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So I think what Oliver and Miller will do will
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: bring them up to the front, probably faster than they
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  Speaker 2: would have because they're going to have double the data
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  Speaker 2: and good data coming from two experienced riders. But if
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  Speaker 2: they get too good too quickly, then one of them
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  Speaker 2: is probably on the outer, aren't they. It's curious.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, see what next year brings, shall we But before
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: we do that, we still haven't finished this year. Let's
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: go back to the Malaysian Grand Prix, and I want
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  Speaker 1: to go back to Saturday's qualifying because oh my god,
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: you just took the words out of my mouth. That
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: flying lap from Johe Martin and then they come in,
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  Speaker 1: they're fresh tires, take a feel off, they go Peco
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  Speaker 1: Banyaya what our lap?
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  Speaker 2: It was just an it was just an encapsulation of
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  Speaker 2: the entire season where both of them were in a
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  Speaker 2: different category on Saturday, and where it was so awesome
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  Speaker 2: to watch is that Martin went out on that first
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  Speaker 2: run in Q two and just obliterated the lap record
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  Speaker 2: to an extent that none of us thought possible. And
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: it was really putting the asset on Banyaira. Obviously knowing
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: that he's trailing in the championship as well, it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: here's what I can do. Can you match this? And
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: then watching Banyaya raise the bar even more in that
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  Speaker 2: second lap in Q two and then seeing the gap
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  Speaker 2: they had over everybody else. Alex Marquez was third on
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  Speaker 2: the grid. He was nine tenths of a second behind Martin.
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  Speaker 2: It just shows you the plane that those two were
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  Speaker 2: operating on. But that was an awesome display by the
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: two of them, because you saw Martin really put the
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: test mentally on Banyaya, which I don't think anyone was
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: surprised about because we know how jugem teen roles, but
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know about you. When he set that first laptop,
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  Speaker 2: I thought, well, that's it, Like, you know, there's no
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  Speaker 2: way that Banyay is going to be able to make
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  Speaker 2: up that much time on a second run, given that
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  Speaker 2: he'd already been blown into the weeds on the first run.
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  Speaker 2: To watch him dig deep on that second Q two lap,
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  Speaker 2: it was pretty exhilarating to watch. And I love the
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: moment afterwards in part fer Me where they both sort
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: of looked each other and gave each other the nod like, yeah, yeah,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I know the risks you just took because I was
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: just taking them. And it's a conversation that only the
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: two of them could understand because they were the only
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: two capable of doing that. It was pretty compelling TV.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: And I think what each of them is doing is,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: you know, they're redefining the boundaries of what the other
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: can do now because one of them will put a
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: challenge out to the other and the other will respond.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: And I think that's what's been so cool about this
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: battle through the year in that, yeah, we know that
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: the Michelin retire is better this year. We know they're
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: on an absolutely fantastic bike, but there's other dicaddies in
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: the field as well. They're just redefining what that bike
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: can do because they're challenging one another to do it.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: What I thought was just so cool about this the
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: cherry on the top. For me, there was no towing
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: from either of them. They both did it on a fresh,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: clean lap and normally, you know we see these lap records,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: it'll be a toe, it'll be something there, or the
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: mind games are coming in. But it was like, no, no,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do this, and then Pecker's like, all right,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I'm going to raise you one and I'm going to
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: go and do that as well. I just thought it's sportsmanship.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: It's so cool, and that's the drama that we've been
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: needing all year. It's just a shame as coming out
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the second last race.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: No I know, I mean, you are the towing police
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: on this podcast. I know how you feel about it,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: and look, I don't disagree. There's a purity to doing
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: it by yourself, which sometimes it isn't always practical. We
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: know that, but it was It was cool to see
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: the stakes get raised by Martin and then Banya going
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: all right, I don't know if I can do this,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: but let's try. And even the way the two of
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: them go about it, like Martin's laps always look more
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: ragged to me because it feels like he's taking more risk,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: whereas Banyay looks Vanyard visually doesn't look faster because everything's
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: in line, and you know, it's a bit sort of
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: you know, like belove watching Jorge Lorenzo in his prime,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: where you'd see him do a lab and you'd look
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: at the stop watch and go, huh, that doesn't make
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: sense with what my eyes just told me, because he
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: was just so perfectly in line the entire time. Watching
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: the two of them come at this from completely different
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: angles and almost achieving the same result, that's kind of cool.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: We got to say, but even like in the sprint,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you talk about different angles there the sprint and Sunday's
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Grand Prix, the different lines that they were both taking
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: on the track was phenomenal. You think they're on the
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: same technically they're on the same bike, right, and Jorge
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: would come out wide, go into a corner so we
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: can get that drive for their eggs. That Pecker would
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: come in with a tighter corner entry so you can
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: maintain speed throughout the corner. It was fascinating to watch
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: both of them.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, And Spang lends itself to that as well,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: because it's so wide. You know, there's so many different
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: lines you can take into these different corners, and this
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: is part of what makes Sepang what it is. And
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: we'll probably get into this. I Reckon's I reckon. It's
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: a great race track. I know that sounds a bit
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: contrary to what we saw in the first three laps
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: on Sunday. It's a really good test track because it's
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: got every type of corner you could probably imagine. It's
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: not a great race track, but what it does offer
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: is because of its width, because it was designed for cars.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: As I was saying earlier, there's so many lines that
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: you can take into those very very different sequences of corners.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: So it's the race looks different there, and riders and
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: their styles I think come out a lot more because
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: you'll have guys that are trying to back the bike,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: watching Jack Miller up the hill and to turn four
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: with the right leg off the bike the Scandinavian flick,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: trying to get it stopped. And there's something cool about
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: a contrast of styles, and these two have that, and
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I think this circuit accentuated it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, Matt, important question, how loud did you scream at
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the TV when Peco crashed out of Saturday's Sprint? Because
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: for me, I'm sure my neighbors were like, what is
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: going on?
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I could not believe it. So I'll peel the curtain
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: back a little bit here, as I have a fairly
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: elaborate set up here in the home office where there's
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: multiple screens going on, and one of my screens has
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: the lifetiming on it, and the lifetiming is always about
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: twenty seconds ahead of the actual TV feed, and so
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: some I park it slightly out of sight because I
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: don't like to watch the timing and not watch the
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: action while I'm taking notes of what's going on, and
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: out of the corner of my eye, I saw something
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: tumbling down the time sheet out of the corner of
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: my eye and the timing screen, and I couldn't help myself,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: so I said a glance sideways, and I just saw
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Banna's name going down the timing sheet, and I've oh,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: my god, he's gone. And of course, like the TV
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: pictures are fifteen seconds by the timing, it's just the
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: product of the way the timing works and the way
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: TV works. And so I look up and I'm going, oh,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: it's going to be turned nine, isn't it, Where so
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: many guys have gone down in the past. He was
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: heading towards turn nine. You knew he was going to
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: tuck the front and that was the end of it.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: So I didn't have quite the same response as you
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: because I kind of knew what was going to happen
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: about fifteen seconds beforehand. So spoiler alert for everybody. If
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: you don't want your live viewing of Murdo GP to
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: be completely ruined while you're watching it in the time,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: don't have the lifetiming on like me, park it off
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: to the side where you can't see it and check
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: it afterwards. So I kind of spoiled my own surprise.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: There, didn't I Oh no, that's a shame, honestly, because
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I report live for Fox Sports on the socials, and
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: so when that happened, I wanted to throw my laptop.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I was just going, oh, Pecco,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: what are you doing? But he was just pushing hard
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: and I love that. After the race, you know, Jorgesan,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you know, you know Peco was trying too hard. Blah
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: blah blah, pecock is I am going to send it tomorrow.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: And that is what he did Sunday before we had
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that red flag. Those two they must have touched going
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: down that straight into turn one. You could just see
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: them get so close, and they were like, it's like
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: a game of chicken. Who was going to break first?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Completely that first start, which we've kind of overlooked a
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: little bit because the race was red flagged on lap one,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: but Banyaya dangling the right leg off Martin seeing it
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: have to slide, they check up on the inside to
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: avoid running into him. They were, yeah, it was completely
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: a game of chicken. It's like I'm not breaking, so
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: you breaking. There was a lot of that going on,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: so it would have been really interesting to see how
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: that played out. But I think we've probably now I
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: don't know your run shit here, but I'm sure we're
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: about to talk about would you say it was eleven
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: overtakes in three laps or something? It felt like about
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: twenty one overtakes in three laps? I don't know about you.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Was that the best opening to a Grand Prix we've
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: seen in as long as I can remember? That was
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: absolutely wild, those firstly three laps. Just the sheer intensity
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: of it. It was pretty staggering, wasn't it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, And that's what's so exciting about MotoGP is when
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: we have races like this, is they are going head
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to head and it's who's going to break first, who's
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: going to check out first, who's going to pull a
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: move that they didn't see coming? Keeps you on the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: edge of your seat the whole race, And obviously we
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: know what the ultimate outcome was, but those beginning laps,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: it's like, I am speechless. But the same time, I
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: read a quote from Mark Marquez going they were battling
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: like that, and they were still pulling away from me,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and he was sitting there at third, which I thought
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: was fascinating that these guys are going on the absolute
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: edge and they're still gapping.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the performance that the two of them have got
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: was talking about with qualifying before. But the little subtext
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: to all of this, of course, is that because of
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: the championship position, he Martin could have won the championship
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: on Sunday, so he theoretically should have been risking less.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: There was no need for him to be that aggressive
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: in the first three laps. But I think he did
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: it well for two reasons. I think we know the
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: value of racing at the front in terms of keeping
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: your tire temperature and pressure under control, so on and
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: so forth. But I think Jorge Martin's tried to ride
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: counter to his instincts before, and I don't reckon it
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: works for him, where some guys it's like, okay, if
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I need to finish fifth to day, if finished fifth,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: and there'll be guy that do that. Now, I think
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Bagnai would be better placed, just personality wise and with
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: a mentality that he would have raced that race really differently.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I reckon if he was the one with the championship advantage,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: whereas Martin is I'm not going to call him a
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: one trick pony because it sounds like I'm devaluing what
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: he does. But he has a very very significant advantage
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: is that he gets up to his best speed really
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: really fast, and his whole mo is about being super aggressive.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: So if he has to write harder and think less,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: it's probably the better for him. And so look, if
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: they both be n f'd on Sunday, it was going
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: to be to Martine's benefit because there's one fewer race
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: for Vanyay to catch up points. But it was so
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: interesting that he decided to back his instincts and be
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: himself even though he didn't need to, because that's when
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: he can be the best version of himself. So I
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: thought that was interesting in that had Banyai had a
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: twenty nine point lead over Martine, I think we would
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: have seen a really different race in that Banyai I
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: would have said, cool, go and knock yourself out, go
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: go for your life. I don't care because I would
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: just sit behind you because I've got a performance and
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I'll finished second and you're already taking five points off me. Anyway,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: So we got that outcome with Banyaia beating Martin, But
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: it was just so interesting that Martin was true to himself,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: and to be fair, I think that's what's got him
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: to this point in the championship. In that last year,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: it felt like from the outside that he might have
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: overthought it a bit, and this year he's like, no, no,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: let's just park the brain and do what got me here.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: It's probably going to see him crowd world champion in
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: two weeks time. But even in that fight, what made
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: that fight was Martin's willingness to have it because he
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: didn't need to, but he chose to, and I thought
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: that was it was fantastic for us, It was amazing TV.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: But I think it was a pretty interesting insight into
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: his psyche this year, and that's the biggest change he's
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: made from twenty three to twenty four. He's now not
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: apologizing for being there, and he's not trying to be
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: someone he's not. He's now going to be authentic. This
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: is how I got here, this is how I'm in
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the lead, this is how I'm going to win the
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: World Championship. I thought that was just super interesting because
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: psychologically there was a lot going on in that race.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: The old Martin I wouldn't have trusted in a situation
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: like that, But I think the evolution of him this year,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not surprised he raced like that because that's who
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: he is, but also knowing, knowing when to know that
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: you're beaten and not step over that line. He tried
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to get the win, he didn't get it, but ultimately
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: it didn't hurt him because he did the next best thing.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: And this is this crazy stat now and I think
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I raised this every single podcast. Thirty podiums in thirty
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: eight races now for Martin this year, which is mad.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: But also he's finished second sixteen times through Sprints and
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Grand Prix, so he wins when he can win, and
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: on the days that he can't, he finishes second. So
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Banyai's won ten Grand Prix this year, Martin's finished second
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: in six of those, so he's mistigated the damage in
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: the best way possible, and that's why he's going to
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: win this championship.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I was hearing something about apparently last year Joe Martin
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: got to this point in the championship. He couldn't sleep,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: he couldn't eat, he was just nervous and stressed, and
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it on the broadcast,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: you could see his girlfriend and his family, especially when
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: the red flag and the Reselle happened, and the nerves,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and then you see Jojo Martine and he's just like
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: leaning back on his chair. You see him here he
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: visualizes a lap. You see him get into race mode,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: but he looked cool, calm and collected, and you're like, okay,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: what you said is hit the nail on the head?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Is that is the new jogem Martine? So he's like,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go out there and I'm going to
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: race him because I know what he wants to do.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: He's going to fully send it, so I'm going to
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: fully send it as well.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: And isn't sports so much more interesting at this level
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: when you've got different ways of trying to achieve the
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: same goal, different personalities, different nationalities, different tactics, different mindset.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: That's what makes you know, what's the saying in boxing?
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Styles make fights? You know, it's one of those things
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: that you know, if everyone did the same thing, it'd
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: be pretty boring. And it's really interesting watching Martine now
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: with the visualization. They love doing that, but he has
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: admitted he's dot a lot of work on the mental
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: side of things. But these guys are smart, like they
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: know where the cameras are. He knows there's going to
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: be a camera on him in the garage, and if
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: he's panicky and jumpy and fraught and you know, pretty
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: similar to like his dad and his girlfriend and the
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: other people in his entourage, the camera is going to
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: stay there and focus on that, keep chipping away at that.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: If he presents this sort of outer sheet of no, no,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I'm good, you know, I'm ready to go. I'm doing
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: a visualization, I'm all fine. It's not amazing TV for daughter.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: They just move on to the next person. So he's
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: actually playing that aspect of it really really well. Probably
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: wore his heart a little bit overly much on his
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: sleeve publicly last year. Other about you. But what's interesting
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: for me is, I'm look, he's going to win the championship.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Let's be honest. Here, will that sort of facade of
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: calm and everything once he wins it, will that just
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: completely crack and he'll go crazier than any crazy person's
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: gone before because he's been bottling all this all up
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: for the entire year. Trying to make up for what
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: happened last year. Is that raw emotion you're going to
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: come out when there's an outcome, Because I keep thinking
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: back to Valencia last year. He was so sort of
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: adamant and belligerent the whole year. Last year, when he
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: crashed at Valencia and lost the championship, there was this
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: amazing video that was going around on Dorner that you
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: probably saw. Once he got back to the box with
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: his team and his mechanics and his people, and the
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: facade just broke. He just completely broke down, and he
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: was publicly really really emotional, and I think he'd repressed
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: that quite a bit. So it was nice to see
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: how much he cared for one, but it also showed
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: you how tightly wound up he'd been for the second
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: half of last year, and when it was really over,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: he let himself go. And there's almost been this feeling
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: with him. I've since this year that I never want
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: to feel like that again, And so the whole way
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: he's gone about twenty twenty four has been I know
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: how bad that felt. I have no intention of going
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: back there. So even if I lose, I'm not going
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: to go down that path. Again. But when I win,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I think this celebrations of the emotion will be pretty
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: extreme because I reckon he's just been holding it, holding it,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: holding it for the entire year. And more power to
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: him if he's able to overcome that and make himself
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: a better writer. And with the World Championship against a
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: guy who's having quite frankly, one of the best seasons
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: historically in Grand Prix we've ever seen championship very very
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: well earned because he completely deserves it.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Isn't it fascinating though, that Pekubo is having one of
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the best championships seasons ever and he's second in the
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: World Championship.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, unreal. So I am going to write something about
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: this spoiler my own story here in the next couple
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: of days. But so, Martin's leading the World Championship is
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: twenty four points with one round to go. So Martin
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: has outscored Baannyai by forty eight points in sprints, Bangnai
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: has outscored Martin by twenty four points in Grand Prix.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: So the margin that Martin has over Banyora in the
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: entire World Championship is exactly the same margin that Bangnai
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: has over Martin in the Sunday races twenty four points.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: It shows you, you know, Vanyai has won ten races.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: There's only three other riders who've won more than ten
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: races in a season in Motor GP history, and they've
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: all won the World Championship Valentino Rossi twice, Casey Stona twice,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Mark Marquez twice. Vanyai's won ten, could be eleven by
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: the end of the season, and he's probably not winning
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: the World Championship. So it shows you how good he's
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: been on Sundays. And the whole thing comes down to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the fact that he's still after two years, hasn't got
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: the sprints right, and last year Martin led him off
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the hook by making too many mistakes. This year, Martin
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: hasn't made the mistakes and it's going to come back
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: to bite him. But it's just so interesting that you
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: always refer to Banyoro as the professor, and I love
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: that too for him, because the more time he has
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: to get a weekend right, the better he's going to be.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I think he builds slowly to his ceiling and his potential.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Martin gets out there and just goes bang first lap
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: when it actually matters, and he's there. I don't reckon
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: he has as much room to grow after that, because
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: he gets closer to his ceiling much quicker than Banyai does.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: And that's how the sprints work. Because the sprints, you've
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: got to be on it because it's a shorter distance
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: and you've got to go in the early parts of
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: those races. It goes against Spanya's methodical way of working.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Martin just gets out there and just let's go, and
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: he's on it. And that's the difference in this World Championship.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Martin's been so good in the sprints. Bano's helping him
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: by falling offtivity times. But that's where this championship is
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: going to be decided and why in the history books
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: in the years to come, we'll look back and go,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: how did this guy win ten or eleven Grand Prix
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: and not win the championship? How does that work? But
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: very specific set of circumstances because we've got sprint races now.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: It's just this year, this season, we knew it was
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: going to be a battle between Juge and Peko, but
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't expect to come down to what we've just
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: discussed in this last half an hour. On this pod
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: is the difference in the personality. Is the difference in
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the mentality. They're on the exact same bikes and talking
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: about writing styles and everything that's so different. And that's
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: what makes Moto GP just phenomena. I know I've said
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: that so many times in this pod, but you know,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: we talk about a lot of different motors's at Fox
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Sports and from Memoto GP is just it is a
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: cut above the rest because we're experiencing this.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I've got a question for you. I'm going to put
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: you out of the host chair for a minute here
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: take over. Do you find it What do you think
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: about the whole Dukatti thing in terms of the fact
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: that they know that the rider that's probably going to
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: win the World Championship and the team that he rides
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: for are both leaving Dakadi at the end of the season.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: So Martine's off to a Prillier, Prama's off to Yamaha.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Are you surprised that Dacadi hasn't got more involved here
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: and tried to I don't know. It's hard to manipulate
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: a result towards Vannaya, but clearly Ducaddi would like the
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: World Championship crowd and the number one to stay in
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: the factory team. That's probably not going to happen. Are
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: you a little bit surprised that Dacadi hasn't got more
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: involved here, because it's commendable that they have let them race.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, Motor GP is
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: a marketing exercise, and it's a branding exercise. And so
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: every time you hear Martin's name next season, should he
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: convert this in Barcelona, it'll be world champion hale hay
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Martin and they'll cut to a picture of him and
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: he'll be writing in a prillier. You know. So I
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: do wonder about it, like, what do you think? Are
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: you surprised that Katie hasn't got involved yet?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Look, I got into mindsets, I go, yeah, I am
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: surprised exactly for the reasons that you said. It's too Catti.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: They've worked so hard. Remember years ago we'd be talking
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: about oh Ju Caddia back down where Yamaha and Honda
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: are now. Yeah, so they've done a full three sixty
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and of course they want to take as much of
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: the wins and the celebration as they can one hundred percent.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: But then the other mindset that I go into is
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: if du Caddi interfere, or if it looks like at
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: any point they are interfering, that's going to look so
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: bad and reflect on them that you know they did that.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: They didn't let joorhe win. He clearly was the better writer,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: or whatever the situation may be, they're not. I think
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: if they interfere, it's gonna reflect badly on them. So
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I think that's why they're stepping back and listening to
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Shea Baddie or I've just lost his name, the man
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: with the eyebrows and g Catti course with the eyebrows, Digitalia,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the man with the eyebrows. I'm so sorry, sorry Gig.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: But you hear them in the interviews and they're like, no, no, no,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: we respect Jorge, respect what he does. We respect Peker
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and what he does. And these are our two best riders,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: and they're battling at From what they're saying is like,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: we're going to take that step back and we're going
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to let them decide.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's kind of a lesser of it's kind
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: of lesser of two evils.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Right, because yeah, yeah, I mean way better than I did.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like Neither of them are great outcomes, but
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: there's one that's worse than the other. And I think
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: that's kind of the way they've looked at it. But
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I guess a wider picture this might be an off
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: season podcast. Are they going to live to regret letting
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Martin go? Because effectively they have they've forced him into
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: a position to leave. He's younger than Peco for one
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: season at least, he's going to be better than Pecko. Now,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: if you've got the chance to sign Mark Cares, I
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: don't think you go, Oh maybe not. I think you
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: probably do. But it comes at the expense of possibly
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: losing the generation's fastest writer. So it looks a lovely
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: problem to have. But I don't think there's any right
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: answers in this. But man, what a conundrum. When they
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: made that decision back in June, they probably made it thinking, well,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: this might be the end of Martine's World Championship contender.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Now we'll probably be fine. It's kind of their doomsday
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: scenario coming back to bite them here, because they were
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: damned if they didn't Damned if they didn't. Right, if
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: you've got a chance to sign marquees and you don't
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: and he goes somewhere else and beats you. That's the
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: ultimate egg on your face. He's signing a six time
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Boo GP world champion, but at the cost of watching
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Martine walk out the door like that's really tough. So yeah,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: interesting with Dicadie. They've had such an awesome year. They
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: win everything every weekend, and yet there might be a
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: slightly bitter taste to all of this because they're going
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: to be losing. They were going to lose something at
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: the end of it, regardless, and you know, it's an
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: amazing achievement. They've got the best bike on the grid.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: We've seen that the whole year, except for that random
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Maverick Videalo is a brilliant winning at Kosher. But yeah,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: they are going to lose a little bit even though
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: they win.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, you're just talking about Mark Marquez going to
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: the factory to Caddy and I guess it's too early
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: to tell. But you see all these signs, You see
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the fans, you hear people talking what Mark's done this
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: year on a GP twenty three is phenomenal. When you
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: look at Frankie Morbidelli, who's on a GP twenty four,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: factory bike, and he's down the field and Abashanin is
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: not always up the front, right, he's further down the
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: field sometimes. And then we see Mark Marquez and what
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: he's done the second half of the year. So I
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: get what you're saying about JJ Martine leaving, but if
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: you look at what Mark Marquez has done, I think
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: they're like, look, we're going to give away Hey Martin,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: but look what we can.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Have with Mark Martin.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark and Peco battling for the Germanship and guarantee
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: one of them is going to win.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Well, Mark and Peco and all the marketing and the
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: attention and the oxygen that comes with Mark because he's
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: still the biggest star in the sport, even though he
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: hasn't won achampionship now since twenty nineteen, and we all
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: know why that is. But I think this year for
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: me was you have to have your doubts with Mark
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: to an extent because it's been a long time since
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: he's won, and his body's gone through so much. There
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: had to be the questions like, well, has this guy
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: still got it or is it the bike? When he
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: was at Hondi, you had to ask the question because
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: you know he's it's funny to think, I think you'll
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: be the second oldest guy on the grid now, now
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: that for next year, after Alasias Barger advertise, I think
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: it's only Jean Zarko that's older, if I'm reading that correctly.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: It's funny to think of Mark as one of the
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: seasoned veterans now, but you've got to ask questions of
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: a guy in his early thirties. He's had four shoulder surgeries,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: like well, do you still have it or not? And
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I think this year has emphatically answered that question. And
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I know I keep looking forward to next year, like
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about this year's already over. But man Bagnaia
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: and Marquez in the same factory to caddy box, like
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: let's get the pop called out, that's going to be massive.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Let's just touch a little bit more on the Malaysian
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Grand Prix because after Mark marquees and know we're praising
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: him here, but he did crash out of Sunday's crand
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Prix and Neyvashanini was third, and he was ten point
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: four seconds behind our leaders talking about.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: He barely saw him. Now, we barely saw him on
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the coverage because he was in a different He was
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: in a different category to the front two, like the
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: rest of the worthy entire weekend, and he wasn't super
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: happy about it either, was he. An Aya, He's just
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: disappointed with the way the whole weekend had gone. So look,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: the GP twenty four is so good that he was
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: able to still get on the podium with it. And
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: you've got this battle going on between Marques and Bastianini
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: for third World championship, which you know it's not first,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: but they'll be happy to win it over the other,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: particularly given that Mark is taking an a seat at
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: the Factory Tea for next year. But yeah, he was
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Bastianini was best of the rest, but the rest were
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: in a different sport pretty much, weren't they on the
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: work end.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the race results, so we know
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Alex Marquez, we know that this this track seems to
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: somehow suit him. So he was on the front road
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: for qualifying. But even he was twelve seconds behind our
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: leader Pedro Cossa thirteen point six seconds if we go
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: all the way down to Augusto Fernandez who finished tenth.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Now that I feel like that must have been one
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: of his highest results this year, it was twenty two
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: seconds behind our leaders.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: That's phenomenal, right over a second a lap, you know,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: nineteen lap race after they restarted at twenty two seconds behind.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: So you're shipping one and a bit seconds a lap
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: to the guys at the front, and then by the
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: end of it, you don't know how hard beanyo. I
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: was pushing anyway, because he had a pretty comfortable lead
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: those last five laps. So they'll show you the gap
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: that the rest of them have to make it up,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: doesn't it well?
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Sorry, So you just touched then on Peko, and I
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: wanted to say I read in an interview that he
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: we've seen previously where there will be times if a
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: World championship with the title fight, they're out in the
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: front and they know that they're fighter, the battle is
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: behind them, they'll actually slow down to try and create more.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: And I read that Peco was like, I'm not doing that,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: and how interesting, because I think it was. I feel
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: like Valentino's definitely done it at some stage. I'm also
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: thinking back to like the late nineties, where it might
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: have been like a Marco Milandry or so.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: My favorite one in this particular category, I do you're
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: going to go here? So talking about marquees, but one
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: of the older guys these days. It was twenty thirteen
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Mark's rookie season when he was going to win the
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: World championship. In the last round of Valencia. The only
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I think he Jorge Lorenzo needed Mark to finish something
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: like fifth or less to beat him, so it was
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: a log shot. Lorenzo got to the front of that
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: race and then slowed the pace down so ridiculously that
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: the entire field were climbing all over Marquez who was
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: coming behind him. And then I ripso Holda had Danny
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Pedroza at that time, so Pedrosa would pass Lorenzo because
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Lorenzo was literally go so slowly. Lorenzo would go back
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: past Padroza and then back everybody up again, and it
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: was ridiculous. The first half of the race. It's like
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: they were having a walking pace where Lorenzo just kept
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: looking over his shoulder to make sure there were still
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: eight guys in the front pack because he was slowing
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: down so much. When he then realized that the rest
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: of the pack didn't have enough pace to trouble Marquez,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: he just decided, oh well, I'm just going to go
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: and then just completely cleared off and won the race
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: and thought, well, whatever happens to Mark happens to Mark.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: And I think Marks finished third that day, so he
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: won the world title. But it was the just most
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: cunning display of just complete bastardry by Lareze. I loved
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: it because he was so trying to mess with Marquez's head.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Mark is a twenty year old rookie about to win
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: the world championship, and he's like, I'm going to make
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: you sweat for this. It was just so brilliant to
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: watch because Jorge had the rest of them just on
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: puppet streets. He knew exactly what he was doing. But
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Baniel's point. I did hear that on Sunday and thought
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: that was interesting too, because it was two things. There's
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: a purity to the way that Banyai likes to win. Now,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: whether that's practical or not most of the time, who knows,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: but he's like, no, no, I'm not going to resource
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: to that. The other part about it is it would
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: be useless if you were going to resort to that,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: because the two of them just too fast for everybody.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: And this is the problem. Even if he was to
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: back Martine up, which is hard to do on a tracklight.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: So pang anyway, because it's so wide, where's the rest
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: of the pack anyway? You're mentioning that guys, you know,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: finishing fourth or twelve seconds behind. It wasn't like you
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: had a whole cluster of them within three seconds of
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: each other, where it becomes practical. You can slow it
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: up all you like, you can't slow it up enough
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: for those guys to get in the fight. So it's
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: kind of a moot point, Like, even if he wanted to,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's practical to do that because
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: the rest of the feel is just not quick enough.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I just thought it was funny when they bought that up,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about the amount of times that it
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: has happened in the past, where yeah, it's just like
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do whatever I can to make sure
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I'm in the right position and they're in the right position.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: And Pecko's like, nah, I'm good, I'm good. But let's
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: think we've I think we've done all of Moto GP.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know what else we can talk about other
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: than just go and watch those first three laps and
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: go and watch qualifying because if you haven't seen it, oh,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: it is so good. Let's move on to Moto too.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I just have to say, Jake Dixon, oh my god,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: he did an alasiaus spargo catalunya. If you don't know
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: what we're talking about, he thought the race finished a
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: lap early. Now he's gone on socials and said it
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: was a technical error on his dash. He's not blaming
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: his team, it's just it is what it is. But man, like,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: don't they have pitboards. There's multiple ways of communicating this.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I swear there's even a screen on that sign that
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: goes There's got to be so many ways that he
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: could see that there's still one more lap to go.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: See, this is where we need I'm saying this very
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: tongue in cheek here, this is where we need a
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Pitza rider radio, which is going to happen in the future.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: It's like, Jake, you're on the second last lap. Don't stop. No,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I'm joking, that's that might be coming dad of the tracks.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: You gotta be careful what you wish for. But when
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: you saw him come out of that last quarter and
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, why is he pushing for the finish light
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: here that he crosses the line and sort of slightly
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: sits up in Cocotte though he's done the Elasian Catalonia
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, so he at least got
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: back on it, but chucked a podium away because of it.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: And as you say, it was more message on his
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: dash because a lot of the dashboards on these bikes
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: and even the circuits timing tower where there'll be a
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: countdown with how many laps there are to go, and
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: it sounded like the dash was incorrect the entire race,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: so it was probably one lap ahead of itself, so
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: super unlucky for him. But this is more than I
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: expected to talk about Moto two on this week's podcast.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I must admit because once center Ageus and Harry Voy
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: were both out on the first lap, I must admit
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I did kind of push the chair out and went
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: put the kettle on and did a few errands and
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: stuff and just tried to half watch what was going
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: on for the rest of that race and came back
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: for the end. Because the Aussie involvement was significantly shorter
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: than the last sentence.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I've just said, let's just say that, you know, it
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: was such a shame for both of those guys, and
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I heard after the race center was not obviously happy
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: as expected to be. But if you are just speaking
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: of Cener, if you wanted to know what a dash
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: looks like on a Moto two bike, head to our
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: YouTube channel because we did a behind the scenes garage
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: tour with Senna and you can see the size of
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: this thing. I'm doing the hand signals now is well
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: smaller than an iPhone. And you think the riding on
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: there is they've got I mean, Moto GP bikes are
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: even different. But they'll have tire temperature, bike temperature, they'll
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: have their uppm, they'll have gears, they'll have all these
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: little messages on there, and then somewhere on there's meant
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: to fit in how many laps they've got. So obviously
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: it's easy to understand how this error can be made
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: and how we don't see it more often. But well,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: there's little dashes that they have on their bikes are tiny.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: But yes, I agree with you, there was some battles
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: up the front, but look, it wasn't It wasn't the
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: most exciting race called a Cpny get the win, and
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: obviously Navarro and then Jake's teammate Gervera got third place
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: and obviously ultimately put him on the podium. I think
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: is also his first World championship. Proto sighting for Aspar
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: and everything that's going on in Valencia, we know that
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: there's a big connection as the team of base there.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: So a good weekend for Aspar in that sense that
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: they had one of their riders in Moto two and
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: then obviously in Moto three, that really beautiful sentimental statement
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: from David Alonso after where he said he's going to
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: donate all his bonuses from winning this weekend. Who's obviously
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: achieved another goal of winning basically every round this year
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: in Moto three, but that was really nice I thought
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: of him to do that. At the end, they took
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: the oath of not celebrating in honor of Valencia. But
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: the battle with Frosato, you could just see him in
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: park firm mate. At the end, he was like, mate, mate.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Just give me one win. He he just ticks every box.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: This kid, doesn't he a lot. So like he's got
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: the speed, he's got the charisma, he's got the wisdom
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: of someone much older than he actually he's eighteen years old,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: and you you know, he's doing all these post race
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: interviews and what have you not in his native language.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: There's just a world sort of wise aspect to him
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: that I really like to go with the talent. But yeah,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: you're right about him winning nearly everything, six wins in
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: a row in Moto three, which is almost silly to
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: say because of how crazily impossible that series is. Thirteen
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: winners for the season. Like, he's the next guy. I'm
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: absolutely convinced of it. But there's a combination of personality
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: and talent and just I don't know, I don't know
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: about you watching him, but he doesn't come across as
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: your standard eighteen year old, does he He he's much
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: much wiser than that, and I think it's going to
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: really really help him as he moves up the food chain.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: It's like I feel like I've said this on a
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: previous podcast, It's like, with the visor open, he's this happy,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: go lucky kid, really bubbly and vibrant. He puts the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: visor down and he just turns into.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Animal animal.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so cool to see, right, And like you said,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: he's the next Pedro Costa, Mark Marquez. I think if
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: he goes well in seasons, doesn't get too many injuries,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: maintains this progression that he's going through, it won't be
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: long and we'll be seeing him in MotoGP and hopefully
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: it's still at a time where Mark Marquez is there
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: and Pedio Acosta's fighting for the world championship and then
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: we have this young rookie come in. Talk about Fabio's
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: back at front. Oh, it's going to be exciting in
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: the years to come, but sure it is. Let's talk
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: about Joe kelsorry because he got P six which is good,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: and then Jacob rules in twelve. So a weekend where
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Jacob finally scored some points. So I feel like that's
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: the confidence he needs to finish off this year on
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: a bit more of a high.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed. I mean, it was good to see him
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: do reasonably well in Australia and he's kind of righted
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: the ship a little bit because it was getting a
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: bit rocky for him after Germany when he'd had that
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: accident mid season. So we know that he's back there
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: next season again and has got the continuity in the stability.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: So finishing off with a good couple of results is
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: key for him. Still not doing a great job in qualifying.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I have to say, it's twentieth on the grid, so
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: gave himself a fair bit to do, but got through
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: to twelfth. And it was another very Joel Kelso race,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: wasn't it really qualifying the front two rows lead for
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: a bit, fight at the front, drop back a little
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: bit in the last couple of laps and bank another
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: top six, which just feels like pretty much every race.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: So look, it's it'd be frustrating for him that he
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: can't take that next step. And it's not even a
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: big step, it's a small step. He's right there, but
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: he Now it's funny, isn't it perceptions with Joel, Like
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: in the past you go, oh, Joel Kelso's up the front,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: that's good, and now it's like Joel Kelsop's up at
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: the front because of course Joel Kelso's up the front.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: We just expect that. So you know, he has raised
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: the expectations of what we think he can do on
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: a week to week basis. He's so close just to
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: getting that next big breakthrough result. He's had a poll.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Now he's been right at the front most of the season,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: So let's hope the Errata doesn't need to progress too much.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Just a little bit, just just a little bit.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: We'd like to see Joel take his maiden Moto three victory.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, he could do that a Valencia. We know
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: he's strong there, but it could be next year with
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: a new team as well. But what I thought was
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: interesting before we finalized our Malaysian recap was in Moto
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: III those Hondas, was there a problem with them overheating
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: or the engines blowing? And then I saw on socials
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Alisha Spargo struggling with the heat on the Apillius, which
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: we know, so it's got to be so challenging for
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: these riders, and obviously the Bianks who come from phillip
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Island where it's freezing down then and they go back
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: into Asia where it's hot and humid. Just the equipment
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: and what they're dealing with, and these writers and the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: because the track temperature for a Moto GP was something
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: like fifty or sixty degrees, right, fifty.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Four degrees started degrees.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: That's freaking hot.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it you think? And they kind
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: of got away with it. At burram On Race takes
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: it rained right, so we didn't get that super hot
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: race in Thailand. What was weird about Sunday at Sepang
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: was you know that the ambient there is going to
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: be really high, but you normally get that afternoon cloud
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: cover that takes some of the edge off it. You
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: think of TV pictures of Sipang, Normally it's dry and
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: it's hot, but it's not super bright because you don't
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: often get that crazy sun light there because the clouds
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: are starting to roll in. Sunday was the brightest day
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: of the weekend. And that also might be the hottest
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: pit laid in the history of mankind because it's all
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: that white, polished concrete. And I've stood out there through
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: pre season testing a few times and I'm not even
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: doing anything. I'm not riding wearing leathers and riding motorbikes,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: And after about twenty minutes, I'm like, yeah, I think
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: that's enough of that. I'll go back in the air con.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: So God knows what those guys were going through on Sunday,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: and that Aprillier does run hot, and yeah, by the
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: end of it, Alisia Spargo, we know he's retiring. In
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: one raceist time. I think if someone had said the
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: offensive retiring like now that exact moment, he probably would
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: have said, yeah, I'll be up for that, because he
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: looked absolutely shot after the race, and he's one of
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: the fitter guys with he's cycling at what have you.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: So yeah, super big test of those guys.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I just thought, then, how cool is it that motor
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: GP is going back to Catalonia, his home track. He's
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: literally borne the town next to it, that's where he
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: grew up, and that's going to be his final race.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: I just thought of that. I thought, Wow, that's got to.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Be cool for a lash right full circle moment, And
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: funnily enough, he's actually, well, maybe not funnier, he's really
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: really good there. You know, he's won Sprint Series, one
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Grand Prix there, he won Sprint there this year, so
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: you know, Priory is kind of in nowhere for the
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: back half of the season. But the change of venue
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: for Barcelona for this final round, his final round in
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: the World Championship, it might see him and Maverick Vidale,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: they're both pretty good there. We might see a bit
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: of a return to see Exibit Prilli as up towards
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: the front again, because we've not said that very often
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: in the back half of this year, have we well
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: fingers crossed.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: But we're going to keep you guys up to date
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: as soon as we get confirmation, the official confirmation from
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Donna as to when the exact dates are for the
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: final Moto GP round, So keep an eye out on
• 52:47
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• 52:51
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• 52:53
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• 53:06
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• 53:13
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