Latest / Mac & Bone Podcast / Mac & Bone Show - Trey Wingo Interview
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody. It is Sports Radio ninety two seven
- 0:03Speaker 1: WFNZ and the Queen City of Charlotte, Mac and Bone
- 0:06Speaker 1: with you.
- 0:07Speaker 2: It is go time.
- 0:08Speaker 1: The Panthers got a preseason game on Thursday nights. We
- 0:12Speaker 1: believe that we're playing some version bone of football and
- 0:15Speaker 1: we are excited about it. And our next guest, you know,
- 0:18Speaker 1: he's excited to have football back. He is doing an
- 0:20Speaker 1: amazing show right now, the Inside Football Show. What a
- 0:24Speaker 1: cast he has, Marvin better deeper rosters. That's some of
- 0:27Speaker 1: the other pregame shows, most of them. Marvin Lewis, Chris Carter,
- 0:32Speaker 1: Brian Urlacker, Steve Kime. And our next guest is the
- 0:35Speaker 1: host that make the quarterback that sets these guys up.
- 0:38Speaker 1: He is Trey Wingo and he joins us here on
- 0:41Speaker 1: the Mack and Bone Show. Trey, what's going on? Man?
- 0:43Speaker 2: How you doing? Good?
- 0:45Speaker 3: Guys? Good morning?
- 0:45Speaker 2: How are you We are doing, Grabin, we are doing great.
- 0:48Speaker 1: We have not been able to say this for like
- 0:50Speaker 1: a decade, close to a decade, that the Panthers are
- 0:53Speaker 1: defending division champs. And you guys did an episode recently,
- 0:57Speaker 1: all right, and you were talking about this division and
- 1:01Speaker 1: you did poke a little fun at our South by saying,
- 1:03Speaker 1: you know how it's going to play out, someone will
- 1:05Speaker 1: actually win this division and get invited to the playoffs.
- 1:09Speaker 1: What do you think about the Panthers' chances of repeating
- 1:13Speaker 1: in this division?
- 1:15Speaker 3: Well, first of all, let's just I mean, you know,
- 1:18Speaker 3: the NFC South has, outside of the Tom Brady Super
- 1:22Speaker 3: Bowl run lately, has not been the the the most
- 1:26Speaker 3: physically or demanding division. I guess you could say in
- 1:30Speaker 3: the NFL. So someone will win and someone will get
- 1:34Speaker 3: a ticket to the playoffs. It could be the Carolina Panthers.
- 1:37Speaker 3: And the reason it could be the Carolina Panthers is
- 1:40Speaker 3: I really like the way their quarterback has responded to
- 1:43Speaker 3: the challenges. You know, it wasn't that long ago that
- 1:47Speaker 3: everyone said they made a mistake. Clearly CJ stroutch that
- 1:51Speaker 3: have gone number one overall, and I always take the
- 1:54Speaker 3: Zen philosophy approach to these things, like we'll see because
- 1:58Speaker 3: it turns out now, I think they're a lot more
- 2:00Speaker 3: questions about CJ than Bryce going into this season. And
- 2:03Speaker 3: we've seen reclamation projects in your division. Baker Mayfield was
- 2:08Speaker 3: at one point, as you guys will though, a practice
- 2:10Speaker 3: squad or a scout team defensive end when Sam Darnold
- 2:15Speaker 3: was the starting quarterback. And Sam Darnald has now gone
- 2:18Speaker 3: on to his fourth team and won a super Bowl,
- 2:20Speaker 3: and Baker's found a home in Tampa. So I think
- 2:23Speaker 3: there's reasons to be optimistic in Carolina. There's certainly not
- 2:26Speaker 3: a juggernaut in that division. I think we can all
- 2:29Speaker 3: say that with great certainty.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Trey.
- 2:31Speaker 4: One negative that people will point to about the Panthers
- 2:35Speaker 4: and projecting their season is how much tougher the schedule
- 2:39Speaker 4: is now that they're playing a first place schedule. Do
- 2:42Speaker 4: you buy in and look at how tough that is
- 2:44Speaker 4: or is it one of those things that that's great
- 2:47Speaker 4: talk in the offseason, but with these teams, the schedule
- 2:50Speaker 4: stuff just completely becomes irrelevant after a few weeks.
- 2:54Speaker 3: Well, here's the way I would answer that. I think
- 2:56Speaker 3: you can look at certain teams every year and based
- 2:59Speaker 3: on their pedigree of winning in their success in recent years,
- 3:03Speaker 3: you can say, yes, that's going to be a tough team.
- 3:06Speaker 3: But for example, every year we see a team that
- 3:09Speaker 3: had a terrible year and then made the playoffs. I
- 3:12Speaker 3: don't go so much by last year's one loss record
- 3:15Speaker 3: because it's a new year and it's a new team,
- 3:18Speaker 3: and I don't put a lot of weight into that.
- 3:20Speaker 3: I put a lot of weight into does the coach
- 3:23Speaker 3: have stability, Do they have a quarterback that has pedigree?
- 3:25Speaker 3: Do they have a general manager that has a consistent plan.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Those are the games on the schedule that I would
- 3:32Speaker 3: look at and say those are difficult as opposed to, well,
- 3:34Speaker 3: this team went eleven and five last year. Yeah, but
- 3:36Speaker 3: they probably went six and eleven and six if I
- 3:39Speaker 3: went six and eleven the year before. So there's always
- 3:41Speaker 3: a lot of flux and turnover. So I don't put
- 3:43Speaker 3: a lot of strength and schedule. I don't put a
- 3:46Speaker 3: lot of weight into I look at the pedigree of
- 3:49Speaker 3: the organization whether or not I think that's going to
- 3:51Speaker 3: be a difficult game.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Tree.
- 3:52Speaker 1: You mentioned Bryce, You mentioned you like the way he's
- 3:55Speaker 1: handled these challenges. He has definitely gotten better every year.
- 4:00Speaker 1: But I think the organization, you know, has not paid
- 4:03Speaker 1: him because I think they want to see him.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Hey, do it consistently? You know what I mean? Dude?
- 4:07Speaker 1: He had some amazing moments laden games last year to
- 4:10Speaker 1: win games, But do it, you know, more consistently. Do
- 4:13Speaker 1: you think do you think he can do that like,
- 4:15Speaker 1: is there more meat on the bone in terms of
- 4:17Speaker 1: Bryce's improvement?
- 4:18Speaker 2: Do you think?
- 4:20Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I think that's completely fair. I
- 4:22Speaker 3: mean what the organization is saying, look at Baker Mayfield,
- 4:26Speaker 3: he's having difficulty getting the contract he wants and I
- 4:28Speaker 3: think he's more than proven himself with Tampa. So I
- 4:33Speaker 3: think that, you know, absolutely, it's fair upon the organization
- 4:36Speaker 3: to say, hey, we like the way this thing is headed,
- 4:38Speaker 3: but we need to see it on a more consistent basis.
- 4:40Speaker 3: I think that is completely fair. I will also say
- 4:43Speaker 3: that I think that, yeah, I think there's more room
- 4:46Speaker 3: for Bryce to grow, and I don't think that's I
- 4:50Speaker 3: think that he understands that. But you know, I almost
- 4:53Speaker 3: hate to say that word grow because when you talk
- 4:55Speaker 3: about Bryce, the one thing he can't grow is size,
- 5:00Speaker 3: you know, And I think that's going to be the
- 5:01Speaker 3: thing that always people will be like, yeh, but and
- 5:05Speaker 3: so I think that's the issue he's going to have
- 5:06Speaker 3: to be.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Dealing with Trey.
- 5:08Speaker 4: How excited should we be for this defense? It was
- 5:10Speaker 4: just two years ago where they set records for being
- 5:13Speaker 4: the worst defense of all time. Now there, you know,
- 5:16Speaker 4: Derek Brown's back in full from where he was two
- 5:19Speaker 4: years ago when he got injured. They've got Horne, but
- 5:22Speaker 4: they add Jaywen Phillips and Devin Woyd. How excited are
- 5:25Speaker 4: you for this Panther defense and is there a chance
- 5:28Speaker 4: they could be a top tennis defense this year?
- 5:31Speaker 3: Well, I think the way to look at it is
- 5:33Speaker 3: it can't get worse, right, Let's just be honest about it.
- 5:36Speaker 3: It's kind of like people looking at the Dallas Cowboys defense,
- 5:38Speaker 3: which was the worst defense in franchise history last year.
- 5:41Speaker 3: It's got to go up from there. How much he
- 5:43Speaker 3: goes up, it depends on a lot of things. How
- 5:45Speaker 3: many times are they going to play with the lead,
- 5:47Speaker 3: how many times are they going to be on the
- 5:48Speaker 3: field trying to stop everything because the offense isn't scoring.
- 5:52Speaker 3: There's a million sort of different variables that you have
- 5:55Speaker 3: to factor into it. But I think just from a
- 5:56Speaker 3: personnel standpoint comparing this year to last year, there's reason
- 6:00Speaker 3: to be optimistic about improvement.
- 6:02Speaker 1: You mentioned the Baker Mayfield situation. We're obviously watching that
- 6:06Speaker 1: and our feelings would not be heard if he ended
- 6:09Speaker 1: up leaving Tampa. He is a heck of a player
- 6:12Speaker 1: when he's healthy. How do you think that that ultimately
- 6:16Speaker 1: ends up playing out in Tampa Bay.
- 6:19Speaker 3: Well, I think they're going to pay him or someone
- 6:21Speaker 3: else is going to pay him. I mean, it's just
- 6:22Speaker 3: that simple. But let I always say this, we have
- 6:26Speaker 3: thirty two teams that start a quarterback in the NFL.
- 6:29Speaker 3: I don't believe we have thirty two starting quarterbacks in
- 6:31Speaker 3: the NFL. And if you have someone of Baker's pedigree,
- 6:35Speaker 3: someone is going to pay him. I mean, there's a
- 6:37Speaker 3: reason Kirk Cousins is in the Business Hall of Fame,
- 6:41Speaker 3: not because he's the greatest quarterback ever, but because he's able.
- 6:44Speaker 3: He's been able to manipulate the market based on his
- 6:47Speaker 3: performance to unbelievably untold riches in the NFL. It's a
- 6:53Speaker 3: supply and demand. And I understand if Steve Kahm just
- 6:56Speaker 3: had a great interview with Jason Light, the GM of
- 6:59Speaker 3: the Bucks. You know the predicament they're in all this
- 7:02Speaker 3: sort of stuff. At the end of the day, if
- 7:03Speaker 3: you don't have a quarterback, you don't have a chance.
- 7:05Speaker 3: And the Bucks, if they are going to maybe waiver
- 7:11Speaker 3: on Baker, then they better be damn sure they've got
- 7:13Speaker 3: somebody that is better waiting in the wings. And I
- 7:16Speaker 3: don't see that happening right now.
- 7:18Speaker 4: Pray Luke Keighley going into the Hall of Fame this weekend.
- 7:22Speaker 4: When you think about his career, although not as long
- 7:26Speaker 4: as some, but when you think about his great career,
- 7:28Speaker 4: what moment first comes to mind for you when thinking
- 7:32Speaker 4: about Keegley.
- 7:33Speaker 3: Well, there's so many, but I think the first one
- 7:35Speaker 3: you have to say is, unfortunately what may have been right?
- 7:40Speaker 3: I mean, you have to almost put him in the
- 7:42Speaker 3: category of a Terrell Davis or a Walter Payton. I'm
- 7:47Speaker 3: gonna played a little longer, obviously than those guys, but
- 7:50Speaker 3: obviously this was a brilliant career cut short by physical
- 7:54Speaker 3: limitations brought on by playing the game. And you know,
- 7:58Speaker 3: I know Luke. I've had him on several shows of mine.
- 8:01Speaker 3: I love him to death. He's one of the smartest
- 8:03Speaker 3: football players I've ever been around, so instinctual. It's just
- 8:08Speaker 3: a shame, you know, as brilliant as he was, it
- 8:12Speaker 3: left us wanting more. And I think, whether it's fair
- 8:15Speaker 3: or unfair, no matter how many great plays you saw
- 8:17Speaker 3: from him, that would always be like if he had
- 8:20Speaker 3: only I wish I'd seen more of it, you know,
- 8:22Speaker 3: I felt like we got an appetizer when I was
- 8:24Speaker 3: ready for the entire five course dinner.
- 8:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we as Panther fans, Man, we wish
- 8:30Speaker 1: that career could have gone on forever. Man, there's eight years.
- 8:34Speaker 1: We wanted to double that. But man, we can't wait
- 8:37Speaker 1: to see him celebrate it. On Saturday. I did want
- 8:39Speaker 1: to ask you because you guys did the Inside College
- 8:41Speaker 1: Football Show. Trey Wing go with us Inside Football for
- 8:44Speaker 1: Inside Football Show? Inside College Football? What the heck am
- 8:46Speaker 1: I smoking here?
- 8:47Speaker 2: All right? Anyway? The Inside Football Show? We'll do it
- 8:50Speaker 2: next week. Yeah, Trey may have that show. I'm not sure.
- 8:54Speaker 1: I'm suggesting another idea, Trey, you branch out, But anyway,
- 8:57Speaker 1: it's a great, great show. And they did their NFC
- 8:59Speaker 1: South pre you how do you handicap the NFC South?
- 9:04Speaker 1: We talked about our Panthers. Who do you think that
- 9:07Speaker 1: we should be the most worried about? Is it the
- 9:10Speaker 1: Bucks who have been there and done that? Or is
- 9:11Speaker 1: it the Saints who a lot of people see is
- 9:13Speaker 1: this up and coming team?
- 9:15Speaker 3: No? Again, give me the quarterback. Always give me the quarterback.
- 9:21Speaker 3: The Atlanta's a mess. We don't know what's going to
- 9:23Speaker 3: happen with them. The Michael Pennis. Thing is not looking
- 9:26Speaker 3: like it's bearing fruit at this point that, as we've
- 9:28Speaker 3: said before, will take the long play. Give me Baker Mayfield.
- 9:32Speaker 3: With some established wide receivers, especially the young kid Abuka,
- 9:36Speaker 3: I would say, I, even though it went the other
- 9:39Speaker 3: way last year, I have to start there and then
- 9:42Speaker 3: I would work my way down. I think Caroline is
- 9:45Speaker 3: right there even with Tampa, if not maybe slightly behind Gray.
- 9:50Speaker 4: Tell us about inside football, this might be one of
- 9:53Speaker 4: your most loaded rosters you've been a part of. How
- 9:56Speaker 4: can we find a show? And what's it all about?
- 10:00Speaker 3: Basically, thanks guys, and we're really excited about it. We've
- 10:02Speaker 3: got some great stuff coming up. I'm flying out to
- 10:04Speaker 3: LA today and we're gonna talk with Cowboys owner Jerry Jones.
- 10:08Speaker 3: We're going to talk with Sean McVay and Lesnie to
- 10:11Speaker 3: the Rams about the expectations there. We're gonna be with
- 10:13Speaker 3: the Chargers. The bottom line is, if you'll excuse the language,
- 10:19Speaker 3: no bs, just ball right. I don't care for the
- 10:22Speaker 3: fluff pieces. We don't care for what people's outfits are
- 10:25Speaker 3: wearing before the game. I care about what happens when
- 10:27Speaker 3: they put on their uniform. We're gonna break it down
- 10:30Speaker 3: x's and o's what we like, what we don't like,
- 10:32Speaker 3: based on Chris Carter's expertise, Brian or Lecker's expertise, Marvin
- 10:36Speaker 3: lewis is years as a head coach, Steve Kin's inside
- 10:39Speaker 3: on how to handle contracts like the Kyler Murray clause
- 10:41Speaker 3: he had to put in in Arizona. We're gonna go
- 10:43Speaker 3: behind the curtain, tell you how it really goes down,
- 10:46Speaker 3: and just be honest with people. We don't do takes,
- 10:49Speaker 3: we do reality checks, and that's what we're going to
- 10:52Speaker 3: give people.
- 10:53Speaker 2: I love it.
- 10:53Speaker 1: It's Inside Football. Everybody check it out.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Trey. We appreciate you. You have that star studed cast.
- 10:59Speaker 4: We appreciate he's got to get Chris Carter the football
- 11:01Speaker 4: a lot though on the show.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Feed him to rock Baby, But we appreciate you taking
- 11:04Speaker 1: a step down and being with this cast today.
- 11:06Speaker 2: Track Yeah, listen.
- 11:07Speaker 3: Then there's a reason why it's called wide redeevas and
- 11:11Speaker 3: I'll make sure I'll make sure CC gets set. It's done.
- 11:14Speaker 3: It's inside Capital FBS Show on YouTube, Inside FB Show
- 11:20Speaker 3: on YouTube.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Awesome, everybody out there, check it out. Trey, Thanks so much.
- 11:23Speaker 1: We appreciate you.
- 11:25Speaker 3: You got it man. Take care, guys,