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Is Aemond Targaryen A Mother Lover?!? (House Of The Dragon Season 3 Episode 7 Review Feat. Tahoe TV) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: Last episode been made a point about like there's no
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  Speaker 1: race in Game of Thrones, but it was kind of
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  Speaker 1: racist and I look, but I don't know if it
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  Speaker 1: kind of go over your head and let's you know
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  Speaker 1: what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: What was?
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  Speaker 3: And welcome in And that's to another episode of Castle Black,
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  Speaker 3: the Blackest Game of Throne podcast in all the Realms.
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  Speaker 3: It is I returning Triumphant Lee one of your hosts,
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  Speaker 3: Tatiana King aka Sir Arland of Dollatry aka Lord of Lightsabers, Lotto,
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  Speaker 3: High Tower.
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  Speaker 2: Kodak Blackwoods and the Thing of the North.
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  Speaker 3: And as usual, I'm joined by the smartest person in
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  Speaker 3: the room always that is Measter p Thank.
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  Speaker 1: You very much. Hi everyone, it's Master p Aka make
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  Speaker 1: them say hm aka Breaker of Hearts and Siege Charts,
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  Speaker 1: High Garden aka Dragon, writer of dream Fire's Dreams, Hassard
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  Speaker 1: to me, Helena.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you got these long you know, tip called quest names.
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  Speaker 3: This week makes to be I'm gonna get back to
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  Speaker 3: you in a minute. But also overturning Triumphantly, we got
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  Speaker 3: dj ben Ha of the Means, please reduce yourself.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, it's your boy, DJ ben ho of de
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  Speaker 4: means ambitions of a dragon, rid the Dorn identity, Draco,
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  Speaker 4: You're Gary and a man has no shame. The iron
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  Speaker 4: price is right, catch him the hass little twitter fingers
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  Speaker 4: here in Castle Black and.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's heartbreaker, everybody's favorite, mister sexy himself, ty Ho, please
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  Speaker 3: reduce yourself.
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  Speaker 5: You're not gonna call me mister sexy after y'all have
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  Speaker 5: all of those wild I'm not I'm just.
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  Speaker 2: Repeating what the people in the comments.
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  Speaker 4: Bro, I'm mad that I'm not the smartest person in
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  Speaker 4: the room. I'm not getting sexy. I'm not getting nothing.
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  Speaker 2: I get a title for you.
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  Speaker 1: I listen, that's.
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  Speaker 2: What they literally have called you in the comments.
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  Speaker 6: Bro, I'm going to put a shirt on. I know.
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  Speaker 3: They are so when I say they have sexualized you
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  Speaker 3: beyond reports.
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  Speaker 6: Wait, I got to when they go high, we go
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  Speaker 6: low tower. Ah. I like that.
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  Speaker 1: I like from Brooklyn so slazy.
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  Speaker 4: Hey the hair and Holey.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, what's good man? TV job?
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  Speaker 4: You're smart?
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  Speaker 2: Tooth hold that. I mean you're smart too. I want
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  Speaker 2: to be known for my intelligence, not my body.
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  Speaker 4: I want to be known for my body given a buck,
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  Speaker 4: I don't care about my intelligence.
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  Speaker 2: That's usual. We are keeping the buck. Because this is
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  Speaker 2: caps of black.
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  Speaker 3: We are reviewing episode seven of House of Dragons.
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  Speaker 2: This title of this episode is The Dragon in Winter.
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  Speaker 3: Lots of kind ofations on that title, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: And I know Mikes he's going to talk about that later.
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  Speaker 3: But listen, we're back. We are almost done with this season.
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  Speaker 3: We got one more freaking episode left where this is going.
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  Speaker 3: We know this is the Dance of the Dragons. We
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  Speaker 3: saw a little bit of the dance today and.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just curious.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out who's going to be the
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  Speaker 3: loudest right now. Probably Taho be getting hyped. What was
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  Speaker 3: the wildest thing in this episode for you?
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  Speaker 6: We already know?
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  Speaker 5: All Right, y'all go because how many of y'all watched
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  Speaker 5: the scene? Did y'all watch the scene? Because I looked away.
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  Speaker 3: Several times over several times if I actually rewinded.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, so.
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  Speaker 3: The scenior he's talking about I I actually threw up
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  Speaker 3: in my mouth several times.
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  Speaker 2: Several times. He's talking about Allison and Damon.
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  Speaker 3: And that that ship was the ship was ass Let's
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  Speaker 3: say that in terms of no, no, no, let me
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  Speaker 3: let me talk on that real quick timeh Because when
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  Speaker 3: I say, you looked a way, when I said, everything
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  Speaker 3: in my body cmvost and the lunch from two days
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  Speaker 3: ago came up because I just could not believe I
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  Speaker 3: thought this ship was actually happening. For a hot second,
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  Speaker 3: it didn't even feel like no dream. Alice Rivers is
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  Speaker 3: good at doing that to niggas, like, you know, making
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  Speaker 3: you think that everything's real and it's really a dream.
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  Speaker 3: I know she got some e and some shit going
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  Speaker 3: on in hair hall, but like, that was the most
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  Speaker 3: disgusting thing I've ever seen in my life period.
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  Speaker 6: I thought it was real.
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  Speaker 3: That's the problem, and that's why it felt so disgusted,
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  Speaker 3: And I thought it.
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  Speaker 5: Was the wildest part of the whole thing is that
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  Speaker 5: when he realized it wasn't his mom, he threw her
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  Speaker 5: off and ran out the room.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, not, you bitch, what that.
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  Speaker 2: Not the one?
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  Speaker 7: I'm really good with it the whole time, and the
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  Speaker 7: minute he realized it wasn't his mom, He's like, get
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  Speaker 7: off me, winch and read out.
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  Speaker 1: The road now listen.
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  Speaker 2: I also I watched the every episode.
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  Speaker 3: I watched the very end where they kind of go
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  Speaker 3: through the episodes and the Catchers talk about it. I
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  Speaker 3: don't recall them explaining, like I know, like from a
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  Speaker 3: psychological perspective, why this damon is going through this potentially
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  Speaker 3: excuse me, no amen, apologies, but where is this coming from?
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  Speaker 3: Where is this this lust for his mother? This is
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  Speaker 3: some is this Oedipus complex situation?
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  Speaker 1: Like what.
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  Speaker 4: And and yeah it's explained. I mean, Alice tells him later,
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  Speaker 4: all y'all Targarian boys want the same.
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  Speaker 3: Thing, wanting to be incestuous?
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  Speaker 4: Ye, can I just say, okay, wait, but let me
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  Speaker 4: see this thing portion I don't. I'm like again, I
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  Speaker 4: don't understand where the discuss is coming from, what this is,
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  Speaker 4: who the people are.
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  Speaker 3: But it's one thing to know about it from like
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  Speaker 3: reading and saying, oh that's her Gamians in breed to
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  Speaker 3: actually fucking watching a son and the mother.
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  Speaker 2: Like I didn't know then that that that was a
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  Speaker 2: bridge too far.
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  Speaker 4: We've already seen it all.
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  Speaker 3: I was discussed still, that was like twelve hours ago
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  Speaker 3: when he watched bro like, come on, one the incesse
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  Speaker 3: has never been a child to parent before on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Somethen like there there are like yeah, y'all, beau, that.
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  Speaker 1: Is as uncommon and unseemly and disgusting as incest is
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  Speaker 1: on this show Parent to Child.
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  Speaker 3: That is just saying it's worse. It's not a line,
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  Speaker 3: then it's just that. No, I guess for me, it
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  Speaker 3: was for me, it's about seeing it and I was
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  Speaker 3: gonna read it and I thing to see it.
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  Speaker 5: And honestly, I thought Alison, so I thought it was
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  Speaker 5: a real scene, right, And I thought she was so
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  Speaker 5: hell bent on getting this mission done that she was
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  Speaker 5: going to use this.
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  Speaker 6: So that's why I was disgusted. I actually thought she
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  Speaker 6: was trying to use this to get him like vulnerable
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  Speaker 6: and then do it.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, in my mind, it was like
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  Speaker 5: there's no other way. See you kiss him and write
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  Speaker 5: him and then you're killing it. Like I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 2: I was. I looked away.
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  Speaker 1: That thing I took from this scene was that the
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  Speaker 1: writers have been waiting for the moment, so you figure
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  Speaker 1: out how to make us disgusted. Basically, like they have
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  Speaker 1: vincenting on how how far do we think Allison will go?
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  Speaker 1: Like they're trying. They were like how convinced? How is
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  Speaker 1: the audience convinced? About Alison. Do we think that they'll
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  Speaker 1: believe this this is Alison the whole way through? How
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  Speaker 1: much can we play with that? And that's how we
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  Speaker 1: got that scene because I want to say, right when
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  Speaker 1: it became sexual, because we saw the last time Alison
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  Speaker 1: saw Aimon, how disgusted she was that he kissed her
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  Speaker 1: on her mouth. That's whenever it clicked to me that
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this isn't Alison, because she would say
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  Speaker 1: the things that she said four things you'd already said
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  Speaker 1: to Helena before. You're the last one I have left.
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  Speaker 1: Like the writers are using things that we've seen her
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  Speaker 1: and say and do before to make us think believe
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  Speaker 1: it was her And then like but they gave us
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  Speaker 1: a couple of different clues when it moved too far,
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  Speaker 1: too far quo quote nquote unquote for Ben to be
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  Speaker 1: oh no, that's not Alison, that's Alice Well well of Portia.
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  Speaker 2: My critical thing went out the window.
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  Speaker 3: I just read immediate nastiness and discuss and Philippa Gosslet
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  Speaker 3: and Zenzelee Price wrote this episode. Fuck y'all just for
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  Speaker 3: this episode, man, cause that that that that piece really
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  Speaker 3: messed me up. But I appreciate the rest of the writing.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't. I thought, yeah, I thought it was very
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  Speaker 4: excellent writing and really incredible how they did it because
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  Speaker 4: it was pretty much everyone yep. I didn't think that
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  Speaker 4: she was using that to you know, didn't kill Aimon.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was about you do that.
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  Speaker 3: For Allison's not target, Alison's titero, she ain't I know,
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  Speaker 3: Targari and lust dinner nigga.
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  Speaker 4: Hey when it rains and poors when in Rome. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what you want to say, but you know
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  Speaker 4: these people, you know, it's how they get down. You know,
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  Speaker 4: she's been around it long enough to have it in fect.
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  Speaker 3: That said, I saw like a lot of like this episode,
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  Speaker 3: and they mentioned it at the at the very at
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  Speaker 3: the recap at the end of epis, so they talked
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  Speaker 3: about love triangles a lot and the fact that, well, one,
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  Speaker 3: there's the love triangle that they try to show between
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  Speaker 3: Aim and his mother Ill and Alice Rivers, and then
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  Speaker 3: there's kind of this love triangle going on with Rinierra,
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  Speaker 3: Missaria and Damon, and then you know, you got other
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  Speaker 3: ship going on. There's potential love triangle with Bayla Alan
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  Speaker 3: and Adam too.
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  Speaker 2: So and go ahead, Bendy said, like you want.
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  Speaker 4: To No, no, we we'll get to that. We done too,
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  Speaker 4: because we'll get to that because I definitely want to
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  Speaker 4: talk about Ray Ray and Helena and Ray Ray shake
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  Speaker 4: and Helena like she's a magic eight ball.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just go aheaded too.
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  Speaker 4: She's straight up rolled up on dream. Was like with
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  Speaker 4: a list of demands, look like not just one dream,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I need everything right now, and then started
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  Speaker 4: shaking this mitch like I.
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  Speaker 6: I was so that again, I was disgusted the weakness
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  Speaker 6: and Rainera, I'm just oh man, she's so pathetic. It's pathetic.
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  Speaker 6: It's it's like get a grip, girl, like you're just
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  Speaker 6: you're pulling on whatever string you can find. You found
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  Speaker 6: out she was a dreamer twenty minutes ago, and you
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  Speaker 6: were here.
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  Speaker 4: Like, promise me that I'm the one?
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  Speaker 6: Am I the one? The throne rejected you.
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  Speaker 5: You know that you already got lupis, so whatever the
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  Speaker 5: hell you got going, like you know it's happening, and
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  Speaker 5: you're just gonna go to this girl part of me,
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  Speaker 5: to anybody that has that.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, like you know you need a technis
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  Speaker 6: shot and I just I was just discussed. I'm so
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  Speaker 6: tired of hear her begging.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very unbecoming. It's very I agree with you, Teho,
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  Speaker 3: is very unbercoming. It is very unbcoming of the romanticized
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  Speaker 3: view that we do. Many of us, not Ben and
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  Speaker 3: not a lot of other people, but many of us
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  Speaker 3: have a vernier about She's supposed to be this in
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  Speaker 3: control queen that got it together, and she clearly do not.
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  Speaker 3: Ben has been saying that. Never Ben Benon said that
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  Speaker 3: since the beginning, to be honest.
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  Speaker 6: But.
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  Speaker 4: No one in this no one like in this version
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  Speaker 4: of the Game of.
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  Speaker 2: Thrones, what about damon?
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  Speaker 4: Nobody that I give Agon, you know, this week my favorite,
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  Speaker 4: but I can't, you know, he just loved up.
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  Speaker 2: I can't say he had was geat up this this week.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we'll get that, but yeah, but it was
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  Speaker 4: more luck like. That's what I'm saying. Nobody that I've seen.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't put my weight behind anyone because nobody is
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  Speaker 4: playing the game that will in. You know, the House
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  Speaker 4: of Dragon, except for Ornaments was locked in. We'll get
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  Speaker 4: to it. Yeah, but nobody.
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  Speaker 3: No, I get what all about Raynier because it is
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  Speaker 3: kind of disgusting because it's just like for her to
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  Speaker 3: like want legitimacy from the high set for her to
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  Speaker 3: feel like she needs the prophesized legitimacy. And I'm just like, girl,
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  Speaker 3: like what happened to that young girl where she knew
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  Speaker 3: her destiny, where she was very profound and strong in
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  Speaker 3: her conviction about she is the ruling, she's the ruling class,
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  Speaker 3: she is the ruler that it was preordained by my father.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like she slipped back into like a child.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even to say childhood, cause feught she was
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  Speaker 3: stronger as a child. But you slip, but but just
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  Speaker 3: for sake of the conversation, you slip back into a
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  Speaker 3: childlike mentality where it's just like you need to be reassured,
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  Speaker 3: you need to be told, no, this is yours, baby,
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  Speaker 3: you got it, this belongs to you, like it's it's
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  Speaker 3: it's strange when you're near with six dragons or whatever
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  Speaker 3: how many she got and you got and you you
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  Speaker 3: got the ball in your hand, and it's like you're
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  Speaker 3: not running with it, you're not running the place. You
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  Speaker 3: just kind of standing there and just looking foolish for it.
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  Speaker 3: And that that's upsetting. And I did I did feel
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  Speaker 3: a way when when she was doing that because.
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  Speaker 2: I was just like that. It didn't. It came off week.
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  Speaker 6: It came with very weak, It came off extremely weak.
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  Speaker 4: It comes off week a lot of this episode, though, sadly.
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  Speaker 3: Can I understand the weakness just because everything when everything's
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  Speaker 3: going wrong around you and you seemingly doesn't feel like
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  Speaker 3: you can trust anybody and your kids done fucking got
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  Speaker 3: killed back to back, like you you was just on
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  Speaker 3: your period when you became queen, Like everything was wrong.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like, on the one hand, I have a
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  Speaker 3: a modicum of sympathy about like this shit was just
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  Speaker 3: wrong from Jump Street. And remember what I said a
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  Speaker 3: few weeks ago, I was like it felt like they
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  Speaker 3: came there with no real plan, like, oh, I'm supposed
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  Speaker 3: to like I was pre ordained. I'mupposed to be queen. Okay, bitch,
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  Speaker 3: Now what do you have a question?
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  Speaker 5: I have a question, and poorscha, I don't know if
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  Speaker 5: you know the answer you you have, I know you
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  Speaker 5: know everything around here these parts.
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  Speaker 6: But without any spoilers, what do y'all think if Helena
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  Speaker 6: was to tell right there was something, what's what would
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  Speaker 6: she tell her? What's the dream that Helena tells everybody dies?
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  Speaker 4: None? Of the ones that she had, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 4: that none of them in this episode.
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  Speaker 2: No, she don't trust.
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  Speaker 4: Her, Yeah, because none of those are telling her. Any
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  Speaker 4: of those dreams is going to lead to a bad
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  Speaker 4: end for Helena. I'll burn y'all all with dream fire.
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  Speaker 4: Not good. Good. I have a son on the way,
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  Speaker 4: not good. I'm going to live with my I guess
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  Speaker 4: son and daughter on a farm somewhere. Yeah, not good.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing she did tell her that wasn't the
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  Speaker 3: dream was the white Man the yeah, which I don't
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  Speaker 3: know the significance, and maybe before she could be to that.
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  Speaker 1: But so she says gray mare because I guess because
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: how was horse colors stuff like that? And I say
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  Speaker 1: the color because of like the significance of like the
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: white cloaks have turned like in Christian Cole and like
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  Speaker 1: him showing his trajectory that everything white is actually gray.
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  Speaker 1: Also the snowfall in Helena's dream being white but the
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  Speaker 1: sky turning gray like, that's got some significance to it
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  Speaker 1: as well. Dragons in Winter, that being the title to
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  Speaker 1: show which dragons is actually farewell in winter.
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  Speaker 3: And winter is comming winter? Or which so many layers
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: to winter right, and like the whole reason why we're
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: in this current tussle of Game of Thrones is because
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: the Siris has his vision about well, he's passing on
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: the vision of there being basically what end up being
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: John Stowe, right, so the king that was promised all
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  Speaker 3: that stuff and when when the winter comes, So like
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  Speaker 3: this is just all playing into that.
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  Speaker 1: I think that Helena, it depends on how savvy you
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  Speaker 1: believe Helena is, because is she going to join the
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  Speaker 1: tustling and like tell herself something that's gonna make Rayniera
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  Speaker 1: act words, or is she and put herself into harm's way,
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  Speaker 1: or is she going to just like placate her, Like
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  Speaker 1: what is she going to do? I think that all
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  Speaker 1: comes down to how you think Helena's going to play
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  Speaker 1: the game.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was Helena playing a game. Is she
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  Speaker 3: gonna act a participating I.
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  Speaker 1: Feel like she's she's can't she can't, I mean, she
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  Speaker 1: can't be a targaring and not be do something. I
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  Speaker 1: think with Raynier's changed. I think what it has been
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  Speaker 1: clearest in this episode is that she Rayniera has stayed
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  Speaker 1: denying her like Shadow Slash Dragon himself, like the side
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  Speaker 1: of her that is like the dark side, so like
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  Speaker 1: Damon and whatever will be like, oh, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta you know, at some point you got to
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  Speaker 1: chop off these kids heads whatever. She first came into
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  Speaker 1: the castle, and she was in denial of that. Alison
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  Speaker 1: kept telling her about that. She kept being in denial
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  Speaker 1: of that. She keeps getting hen fronts with different ways
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  Speaker 1: that she's actually darker than she allows herself to present
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  Speaker 1: to people, like oh no, like I just want the
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: best for people, but like, are you the best for people?
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: And are you telling people that like even the throne
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: rejected you and that you have self doubt about you
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: being the best for the kingdom? You're not? So are
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: you really the best for people? You have manderly talking
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: about how he's being thrown under the bust and scapegoaded
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: and how your pronouncement is the one who put him there?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Are you the best for people?
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: So?
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I think that what we're seeing with ray Nira like
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: she's looking for she's running the game as in like,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: of course I'm the best player because I'm the one
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: who's supposed to get the throne and I've been raised
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: for this. But then whenever she starts playing it she's like,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: but all the ships are stacked in my favor, and
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I have all these things that I have to contend with,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: And why does it seem like I don't have the
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: support that I need? And what happens to the people
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: who killed my son? Where is Vagar? Where is the dragons?
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Like she's like playing too many things at once, and
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: she's doing it all without continuing with the fact that
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: she hasn't really got to the heart of the matter
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: of like, no one can reject you from what's yours
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: if you decide it's yours. But because she's allowing herself
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to be pulled apart and unraveling in all these places now,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: she's not even sure if it's hers, and we're gonna
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: she's gonna keep unraveling, and nothing's gonna make any sense
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: if she doesn't confront that within herself that she is
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: both that she is, if she's the best that she
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: askers needs to be dark she needs to pull that together,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: and she's not doing it right now.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Massoria is using that opening, by the way, that opening
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: of Raniera being so unwound and undone. When you remember
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: that scene where Massoria came into the room, like that
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: late at night and basically coddled her and to saying, yes,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: you know you're the queen, Yes you're This is meant,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: this is what supposed to belong to you, all this
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: other stuff. And it's funny because Rayniera basically is like,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: you're manipulating me, and Missaria was like, no, I would
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: never do that, and she needs to manipulate her and
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: then and that is and that is what I believe
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: is what Alice really means when she says, are you Targerian?
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: She says, boys, but it's all the Tigerians, all you Tarbarians,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: all of the sudden. Y'all all want power, but you
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: all want to feel like coddled and supported and you
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: being powerful and taking control of things.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Y'all want it both ways. They all want it. They
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: all want to be like, oh, I'm in power, I'm
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: going to destroy everything that's not mine.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: And then you thinks was like that because it's just
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: because they bring up Vissaris all the time, but they
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: brought him up again, specifically again with Massaria and Rahniera,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: where Venia was basically saying, Massaria, try to put her
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: in her image, you know, in the image of her father.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: And doing things what her father would do quote unquote.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: But to that point that you just made Portia is.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Did her father act like that that he had to
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: have power and all this other stuff.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Because he had to justify why he got the seat
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: over Rainice. So it's so the whole time he's been
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: in power, he's like like, basically what Massaria is playing
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: with Rainiera is the opposite, but same that auto High
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Tower played with Visaris. Massia is basically coming in there
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: on some like well, she's come in as a commoner.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: She her only way of interacting with no royalty nobility
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: has always been to placate them, to influence them by
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: giving them what they want. High Tower was a nobleman,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: so he played the game of like I'm not going
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: to give him what he wants all the time. I'm
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: going to give him what he needs. And then he
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: would put himself in a position like, okay, well he
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: needs to have someone on like as an air. I'm
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: gonna put myself in position to make sure I can
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: help him have an air. Like That's how how Tower
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: played Missaria, because she's a commoner. And I want to
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: go back to what Ormond said. A couple episodes ago
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: about commoners when they get like power and how they
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: don't they're not suited for it, they're not ready to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: play it. I think that has multiple levels here, and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I I this is a flash to the end of
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: the episode, but I thought of Tahoe when I saw
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the scene where we see Off at the end, and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is exactly what Tahoe is saying.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: He's like, he's like from the and I just.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: They've been doing this. There's no way this didn't happen.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: They've been showing this the whole time.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: And then now you got Damon stepping on him or
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: whatever he's doing in the middle of the thing, like Yo,
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: they're showing like Yo, this isn't gonna go.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: Well, I didn't expect it to happen immediately, but damn,
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: Like yo, here we are, here, we are.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Everything that's happened has been analogies for what's happened in
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: a broader scale, like you mentioned in Damon stepping off off,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: the high born stepping on the common folk. This keeps
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: fucking happening over and over. Even with Queen Menier the Redeemer.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: In place, it's still fucking happening.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: The same exact way, well in a slightly different way,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: different people, but still you're getting stepped on, right, and
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: people being betrayed, betrayed, you betrayal everywhere people.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: It's just is not solid right.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Super whack absolutely, you know, like corny. But if we
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: can go back to uh, what's her name? Massiria real?
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, does she survived the next episode? To y'all, what
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: do y'all think?
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because they showed weakness in her this time. They've
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: never shown weakness to her, even when she was being
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: accused earlier being a.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Whole or whatever it was, the girls a whole.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Right, well, you know, you know whenever, whenever they tried
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: to come at her, they never show weakness. But now
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: the people that she's been defending, yeah, are losing faith
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: in you. You are becoming like them. I think there's
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: a reason writers add those type of moments to show
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: a weakness and then oh you're on time. So what
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: I was gonna go, what I was gonna say to
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: my own question is I think Helena tells RAYNERR.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: That Mysteria new.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: About the about the pregnancy and all that about.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: The pregnancy or whatever. Like, yo, the people you have
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: next to you are lying to you. I think that's
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: what Helena tells, right ray neerer and Raynera actually kills
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: her lover, best lover whispered. That's what that would be,
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: what I would think, because I can see her head
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: rolling down the hall.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: She though.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: That's the problem with Vania is Garrett.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: She hasn't.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, heads will roll eventually, But I do say that Missaria,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I always mess it up to. Yeah, okay, Missaria. White
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Worm definitely you know, took heed to Shorty's advice this episode.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Shorty said, they're always gonna look at you as a hope.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: So white Warm was like, I'm gonna be the best however,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: you know, and so let me.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Use my whole tendencies to get what I need.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: You know, don't fail me now straight up, Like she
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: came in that room, gotta turn this, you know, clean out.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: She turned the shut up. But yeah, that's that's how
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Use your strength, to your ability, to the best of
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: your ability, and to get whether your mean, whatever your
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: means is, whatever the end result is.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Use that, I think right now is super weak for
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: this moment. Though, again there's another disappointing scene for me
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: and I just the fact first she's going from begging
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: Helena to like begging her own whisperer for like loyalty,
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Like you're trying to put me against my husband, and
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: then you lay back, then you let her seduce you.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: It's just like I didn't, like, I'm like, who's in charge?
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: You're not even busting this down?
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: You the queen, you bust her down.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: But see it ain't bust you down. It's even more so. Yeah,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: but that's the thing. It's like Portia was saying, that's
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: the thing. It's the mothering thing more so than the
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: sexual thing. Yeah, it's the mothering want mothers. Yeah, they
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: all got they're all Disney.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Princesses, they all got mommy issue, they.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: All have moos.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, there it is, and so she yeah, and
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: so it's you know, yeah, she gets busted down, but
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: it was more about the mothering before the bust down
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: that mattered that night.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: But it's also like she like she didn't when she
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: kept the maid in the room in daymon because that
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: this is all precluded by her interaction with Daemon, and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: we got to get into the rain of it all. Yep,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and how like the dragon battle, like that was the
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: worst part of this episode besides the incest.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: But again.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: It what to me was.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: The dragons like tearing at each other like that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: That was much worse.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Analogies or metaphors or whatever, literary devices and visual devices
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: for what's actually happening in the greater scheme of things.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I do have one last thing, speaking of visual devices
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: on Helena, is she making a quilt of jays dying?
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I thought she's making a quilt that you see in
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the opening scene.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: That's what I thought about the quilt team. Right there
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: seems to be a burning ship hery.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: But it isn't. Yeah, so yes, but that but that's
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: when Look, Helena ain't got no shame in the game
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: about what she's in the middle of doing.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I don't want to.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: I'm already I'm already paying your son's death. I ain't
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: got you know, your time. And it's just bad.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, she already did her own brother slash rapists
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: like in a boomb So what are we doing?
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, true, indeed, yeah, I didn't see that.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: I'm glad. I'm glad you mentioned this because now I'm
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: gonna go back and pay attention.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's a burning she's quilting up a little
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: burning ship right.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Then, and then last time she was cool to know
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: what you said, a king in the womb like but
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: But while we're on the on like the ship, the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: burning ship, like can we talk about how ring it?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: That's how it's part of her unraveling is her blaming
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the death on the dragon Writer because the dragon Writer
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: is not who murdered Jayce. It was the men on
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the ship who killed him while he was in water,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: and Jace was still alive, so Ray near us, like
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: even like when we see her, she's like talking about
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: her skull, the skull that she kept because she was
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: like I needed I just like I thought I knew
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: who it was he took my son. And it's like,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: but why are you so focused on there being one
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: person who took your son when there was like multiple
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: factors that led to his death and the people who
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: actually pulled the trigger on his death were people who
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: were on a.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Shit Because she don't want to because she doesn't want
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: to blame Jace, and it's really Jason's fault. Nobody wants
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: to blame Jase. That's the thing. Baylor don't want to
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: blame Jas. Ray don't want to blame Jace. No one
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: wants to put the blame on Jas for locking the
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: mom in and flying off on his dragon and getting
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: himself killed.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, even I admit that was a catalyst to everything,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: But yes, there were there were multiple factors that led
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: to the end result.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: You hadn't been out there got killed.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: Nah.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: No, the idea that another dragon came into a fight
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: where she knew that the dragons would win, another dragon
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: turned the tides against that. She's thinking, like, why, who's dragon?
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: This is this a threat? My son died because of
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: this dragon entering into the fight?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Correct?
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: Who she's thinking? Right? Whoever is this dragon?
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Writer?
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Is what threw this whole ship against us? It's just
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: less the arrows. The arrows beneath her, the high towers,
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: the greens are beneath her. But this is the dragon
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: has this dragon is equal to me because that's the
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: source of my power?
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: Is this dragon? I don't know if I can curse,
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: I know this is going on.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: You can absolutely at this point, who is this dragon writer?
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: That's the person And that's my understanding of it.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Like I get what y'all saying about, Like, oh, it
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: was the arrows, But nobody's thinking that, like you're thinking
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: about what is the big issue that is in your
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: face that is most relevant to you.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: A fucking dragon.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: One of my even though even though it was a
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: wild dragon, one of my dragon, which represents my house,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: represents our lineage, represents me, fucking came into the fray
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: and from what was reported by Bayla this Remember we
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: weren't Bayla explained what happened. They went to go fight. Yes,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: all that shit is wrong, You're right, Ben, all that
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: shit shouldn't have happened. But the fact is they was
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: out there. Would Jason flew down there, would all this
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: other stuff have happened? We guess we know from the
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: books it would have, But that's not the point. Would
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: all of this.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Stuff actually had happened, had Sheep still had not been there?
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: That's but saying that's not.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: From r nearest perspective.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Remember how she was explained to what happened by by
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: who were who, people who were there and what she
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: knows and what she knows. This is what Taho said,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: This wayward dragon came through. Fuck shit up, fuck up
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: the plan? Now where is this person? And what can
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I do? With them because she can't. She can't find
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: the fucking vagabonds that was on the ship. She can't
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: find the tree of five arrows that went through him.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: You can't get that. She can't get a fuck live dragon,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: the writer, that's all alive right down.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: Don't forget the dragon also burnt up our people outside.
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: The dragon was burning there.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying, not that it's right, but
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: this is what the focus is on. The focus is
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: on what is the what is the thing that is
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: tangible I could touch right now. I can fucking put
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: hands on a dragon right now. I can put hands
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: on the writer right now.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: And all well said. And that's been Raniero's problem through
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: this whole fucking show is ignoring fluck boys. And instead
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: of worrying, you know, instead of worrying about the fuck
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: boys around her, worrying about things that she can't control.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: She can't control these foot boys who are around her.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: And that's the problem. Her son's a fuck boy. He
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: ran off and got himself killed. Available now at four
• 30:40
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• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Soon and you're not You're not wrong at all, man,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: You're not wrong, but but just explain, like why why,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: just to explain the question of why would why is
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: never putting so much stock into this, that's why.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Damon's a fun boy. She don't deal with him,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: her son, fuck boy, her other son. I really can't
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: call that. I say that was on her. Sent that
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: boy out there where he was to get.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, still won't won't.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Even talk to her damn son. They hired this actor
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: to have that boy sleep for two episodes. Won't talk
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: to Jeoffrey. All the other fun boys you know, just
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: in general, surrounded her all few down the line. Doesn't
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: deal with them in the correct way. And this is
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: where she's at.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: You know what is sarious ployars but like bring it
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: like Vicius, never like to go talk to the boys,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: like says, you are ordained, its preordain that you're gonna
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: be queen.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: But did he prepare?
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: He should have known the world is filled with them,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: and you know that would have been That's the beat.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: The next step is them attacking her no matter what.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: I've said this for like three seasons now. You know,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: no matter what, when you put a woman on the throne.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Everyone's coming for it. I don't care how it goes down,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I don't care how If Sarah's
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: was still alive right now, it's like, here's the crone.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, the crowd take it, this is the queen,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: and I'm gonna sit back and watch. Somebody would kill
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: kill her.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: It still would have been the same way that he
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: still went.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Would through no want woman, but she would have known
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: what she was doing, had a problem.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Rennie's also had a good marriage with Corliss. No one's
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: gonna fuck with Corliss his prime, with all his and
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. So all the men might have been
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: talking crazy ship or whatever like.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: And they would have they would have been, they.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Would have been moving crazy. It still would have had
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: them like at the same time, would he would have
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: been like gonna do Ond Yeah crazy.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: The Ormonds of the world would still be doing boys ship, Yeah,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: because that's you know, that's gonna go on when you
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: put a woman on. And that's what I've been saying
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: for three season, that it does. Ray is not prepared.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: But it's not about her not being prepared. It's not
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: about her dad not because people always Oh no, it
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: wouldn't matter, man, how prepared she was. This is a
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: world where women on the throne. It ain't happening like that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: If I think, the only like now that it's coming up,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the only thing that may have worked, because like what
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: people speculate around the OUs and fires community or whatever
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: is that if either Allison had been a boy or
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Raynier had been a boy, then it probably would have
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: gotten better. And I'm thinking, like maybe if Ormond was
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: not as crappy personality wise as he was, and he
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and Raynier had gotten together, this might be a completely
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Like it's an interesting little moment, but like he is
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the way he is and the high towers, you do
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: not need to be that close to the throne period,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: but the way that he's able to play narratives and stuff,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Like Rainieri doesn't have that the like pool that he
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: has with the other noble houses. Raynieri doesn't have that
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: he does. She has all the might of like people,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: like being symbol that you want to rouse behind, like
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: she has all the things that he needs. He has
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: all the things that she needs. That might have been
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: a good connection, But Visara's and his people never set
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: up like her to want to have that, to see
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: alliances and marriagement that way, and so we get what
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: we get. And the dragons are might and they believe
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: in their own power, and so that's why Damon was
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: more appealing to her overall.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I would just say in summary,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: niggas are scared of her dragons and that's it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Like what else does she got besides that?
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: Nothing?
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: That's not the mind from them? From Ormond is one
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: of my favorite words of the episode is when he
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: called them incurious, because that is like, that explains it
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: all when he's talking about the Targarians, because like Portia says,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: they have this power. They rolled in immediately nuke everything.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: They don't have to worry about your culture, who you
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: are forming, alliances, none of that. It's like we here,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: we took over what you recolonizing, y'all. Yeah, adapt to us.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: We are targetans. We fuck each other, deal with you know,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: and and that straight up, and that's how it came down.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: By the way side, No, I I fully agreed last
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: week what Tahoe said about why did they not just
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: go burn down old Town? I get it the septist
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: because like you should go fuck up. They crib because
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: of what they did to you. I mean, that's kind
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: of like street justice right there. That's obvious. I get why,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: you know, the Septs being there and all that stuff.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Now you have the whole church after you whatever, But
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: you know, energy wise, I felt your energy, tah, y'all,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: because we mentioned it so many different times, we got
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: to get to the big moment in this the bigger
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: moment in this episode, which was Damon fining Raina again
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: and then the big battle. The for me, it was
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: the best fucking episode of Jurassic Park ever, but that
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: big battle Agreed Agreed.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: First of all, I just want to say I didn't
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: realize that the dragons were West Indians.
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: What Karaxies is definitely Beijing. That is a Beijing dragon.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Didn't see the cunt what she's screechy? She that the
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: dragon don't roar. That dragon sings its anger at you.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Every other dragon is like Karazis is like I was
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: in the grip, Like yo, why does this dragon sing
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: so much?
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Like what the fuck?
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: The way Karazis rolled up on sheep seeler and made
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: that man lay down like yo, sit your ass. Damn
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: these guys again.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: Also she's stiller.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: You ugly nigga. That is an ugly ass nigga. I
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: looked in this nigga, faith, I paused the ship. I paused.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: I said, I don't even know if he got eyes.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: Does it have where it his eyes?
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: I don't see it. I was looking all the eyes
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: like over here.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Like where are the eyes at?
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But it's a wild It's a it's
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: a wild dragon. Listen.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I love gang dragon and dragon violence was fucking wild
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: That's that's fucking up.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: And I think what one of the things that makes
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: House of Dragons so appealing to me, especially this season,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: is you get to see so much more of the
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: dragons than you've ever seen in any previous Game of
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Thrones series. And by that I mean like you see
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: like even simple things like I forgot which dragon was
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: but drinking from the stream of water, real simple ship
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: that you but I ain't never seen before in my life,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: at least in this series. It's just like, and they
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: they really make these things seem very real. They have
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: they all have personalities, like you didn't see this ship before,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: and then now to see the gang violence happen right
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: in front of you, and I thought that whole standoff
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: was funny because it was like everyone had a gun
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: and it was like put your gun down, you know,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: like he was, you know, like they would yelling each other,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: know you put your shit down first. Like it was
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: just it was the most hilarious and scariest thing to watch,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: to be honest, like because you had said it to
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: all about them clawing at each other, like the infighting,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: that's that's just pure illustration of the infighting. But like
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: to see that happening, and at the end of the day,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: we all like the dragons, right, regardless of who side
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: the dragons on.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: You like the dragons. You don't want to see necessarily
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: see nothing bad happening to them.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: So to see them like killing each other at the
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: behest of their writers is it's a lot.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: But going back to the fight, and I felt like,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: I don't call him ugly because I felt like chep
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Sealer is more like cornbread from Sinners because he just
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: out here picking cotton with his woman, you know, living
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: his life, and here come these house negroes, you know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: trying to mess up everything. So I felt bad for
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: sheep Sealer boy. But the whole fight I just like y'all,
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: you know, are distrusted by you know, the incests and stuff.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: And for me, the more distrusting stuff is watching these
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: dragons fight. Because I was hurt when sheep Stealer put
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: that bite on. I don't know, Mama Rainiers, Okay, okay,
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: you've got it.
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: Dragon.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: I thought, I'm feel worried about Syrat like I didn't
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: see the rag intending when they came home. And you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: with Mama being hurt and having a wound that ain't
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: gonna heal, is you know?
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: And that's why I said this was scary to watch.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Though this was one v three okay, it was sheep
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Stealer versus moon Dancers, Cyras and Karaxies, and it was
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: a moment where because because Cyrex is smaller than sheep Stealers.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: So I was concerned when that bite happened. You know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: when that when that juggernaut.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: You never know what seer got in his mouth. Boy,
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: that man is not taking.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: Care of.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: No no, no infections. Yeah, well listen, ancestors, and you.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Know today it's just it's sheer violence of.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Cyrex is not all right, Oh you're saying y'all got
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: his immunizations.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Up, I am worried about that dragon.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: He's not immunized.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, And for that matter, I feel like She's Stiller
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: might come back into you know, playoffs like I feel.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Like the r definitely the dragons got it.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like sheep still ain't done? Damon? Did
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: let sheep still live?
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: What do you?
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: What do you make what your sheep stealer? You're chilling
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: out here, big and cotten, your sheep still there? Just
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: put yourself on the sandge point? Is she Stiller? You're
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: out here by the cave, you're rolling with the home
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: even rolling with for a couple of weeks.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Now she throws way bonded, not really behalf.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: She throws you a sheep every now and then. It's good.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: You fried up for nice little time, y'all camp in
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: and you hear her daddy dragon coming, and you know
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you know it's her daddy because you didn't you heard
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: them have come to cut.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: You out, you know, dragging, you know, you know you
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: know who it is with you.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: So you're like, hi, here we go another one.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Here it is, get your daddy, your dad?
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Now I got it from.
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: Eye.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: It's like, am I take to take this vaccine. I'm
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: an anti vaxer.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Leave me alone. I get you.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: But it's like whenever you have a friend that always
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: gets in trouble and you're at the house whenever they
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: get in trouble, and you're like, oh, man, no.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I get it. I just think it's hard.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: But your sheets.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just cause I wanted to the part that like
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: was bugging me. So you get so. Then the daddy
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: dragon come y'all over here having a little thing. You
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: keep putting at me like I'm the problem. And then
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: lo and behold the daddy Dragon's like alert Alert. There's
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: two more drags. You're like, oh, now there's more dragons.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: What's going on? They pull up and one of them
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: keeps barking at you about to go. We're going, oh,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: we're going okay. So now you're working back and then
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: all this stuff comes up, tussling, all this stuff happens,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: and the Daddy Dragons, I'll take you out. You knock
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: them real good, and you flutter off Like I thought,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: this is like an alpha battle. I thought we were
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: just trying to see whose alpha. I guess I'm not
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: okay cool. I didn't had a DoPT for that. Okay,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, your homie left, like she gone,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: so aref You're she stiller? Are you so cool with Raina? Like,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: what's what's happening? If she's coming back? Is he gonna
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: come back looking for rain Like, what's gonna.
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: Yo, my dad, Dragon, don't listen to me. I'm just
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: letting you know right, I'm not. I can't stop this, nigga.
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: I'm just letting you.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Know I can't because I can't do that this take your.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Dog across the street in that same breath that you say, oh,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: by the way, I can't control it. You was just
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: on it quote looking for Vagar. Look because I want
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: to do this to make things right. And this is
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: what I'm talking about when I say, like, people get
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: so mad at because I get so mad at Raina.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: And it's just like there's so much that's negative and
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: against her, and it has built up against her since
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: she was a child. Damon more or less explain. It
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: says that he's a deadbeat life you had another fucking
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: dead beat.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: But what he says if you are all there, But
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: if you have.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about, because you have fault if
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: you have thought to know you can't control your dragon.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Why are you still on this, nigga? Why are you
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: still trying to make him ends and do all this stuff?
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Get away from that, nigga.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: No, no, nigga. I'm a fiend. How many times feed
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: my whole life for dragons. I finally got my dragon fixed.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: I'm not letting this go.
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: Let's be real. You're serious right now, right now, y'all
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: dead ass.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: A crazy dragon comes down No Avenue and takes a
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: liking to you.
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: You're going to just let the crazy dagon go? You
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: don't want the dragonigg.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: This is crazy.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: This dragon flies backwards.
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: I don't care, dragon, I don't blame you, but that's
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: why your crib getting lit, your block getting lit.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: My it's like we're going out.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: You can't control.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: It's gonna find.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: I don't care.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: Wherever you go is my new crib.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: That's the time of the children today. Y'all don't care.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Y'all just don't care. Open the schools.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Said you live in Templeton. Now I live wherever I want.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Now over the dragon takes me living.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: But it's a dragon. Well ship, fucking I got me?
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I mean my age? Are you dead ass?
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: What No, I'm not what it is.
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: What it is dragon's taking me. You know what it is.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Y'all have targary mentality. Y'all think y'all could control ship.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Y'all know it ain't about control. Tom said, where ever
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: it goes, I'm going, I'm having.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: It's not like I could tell it to go back.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: This is awesome. You don't listen to me, nigga, No, don't, nigga.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: I'm cracked out like Raina in a week. I'm in
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Rose and you.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Can't blame her. I get it, y'all. The whole point
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: is I blame.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Her daddy, like I blame all the I blame the
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: boys and the dead beats every time, and for people
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: you know. Here, I am calling out the boy like
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: my man is over there saying she ain't all their.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: No, what's funny to me? Dammon? Very late, It's like, well,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I should hold you that. I should have told you this,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: but when I was a kid, I didn't have a dress.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: It would have taken you five.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: You could have told her that at the beginning.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: He was like, well I should have.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: He literally said, I probably should have told you this,
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: but I didn't have a dragon when I was young either,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: and she probably would have felt more.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Like parents cat dragons until they got older. And she's y'all,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: let and you let her think the biggest thing about
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: y'all is some dang dragons. Her whole life, she's seen
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: y'all flying around doing aerial displays and pentols. That's how
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I'll get housing. And she's over here like I'm nothing
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: about the dragon, and y'all said nothing to her her
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: whole adolescence about a girl. Actually, I was a whole
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: teenager before the dragon said he anything to me so.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: And before I forget I also wanted to be just
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: way at the very beginning episode, kudos to whoever put
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Kristen Cole's head on a pike.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: That was fan fucking tastic. I was fucking.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: Ryn television the area that that did it for me.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: These niggas is wild.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Sorry, my friends are dead.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: And I know how to change the subject, but I
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: have really mentioned that idiot got himself killed.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: For and all Wayne could say was he was running
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to the desk.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: Ran was just saying there like yeah about we really
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: thought he was talking an honorable death.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: That's like, no, nigga, I.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: Know, not about to change the topic, but I do
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: want to really quick. I'm not sure if we're gonna
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: get back to this Damon talking to Raynara about Sheepsteeler, Raina,
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: the betrayal, the head that she has still sitting here,
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: that whole thing again. Although I did say a lot
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: about Damon last week, about his inability to really be
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: like an inspirational figure.
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: Y'all call him a deadbeat.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: I've heard him, but like yo, his passion or his
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: love for his child, and the way he was like yo,
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: it was either tray you or betray her, like right
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: right to be in this, like I need you to understand.
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: Look at this and where the position I was in.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: To me, that humanized Damen a lot for me. That
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: that conversation humanized him a lot for me. But he
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: did still let Sheep Stealer go, And I think that
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: was an intentional thing which was still although loyal to
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: right there, loyal to Raina because I think he didn't
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: want to kill her dragon like because he knew what
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: the dragon meant to her after having that conversation. It
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: took me mad long to get a dragon too, whatever whatever,
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: So he was still having that moment, but he.
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: Still lied to them like, yo.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I'll kill the dragon exactly, they let it go.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, two things can be true at the same time.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: The niggas a dead beat and he cares about his daughter.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing. It's like we said the same
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: thing about Corlers and people keep getting mad at me,
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: like he about the kids.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: And by the way, the act Corless agrees with us.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Believe that Correless is a fucking dead beat.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: But Cornis didn't care about his kids and Damon didn't
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: care about the kids.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Well, Damon did care about the kids, but he's always
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: cared about his kids. But he was he didn't father them.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, the dead beat is pretty strong a word. Dead
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: beat has certain connotations to it. Corlss fits it better
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: because he didn't actually provide for his kids as they
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: were growing up. He just like had them off with
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: their mother doing whatever they were doing with their mother
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: to get fire.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Damon actually provided household, made sure the kids actually all
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: that stuff whatever. Is he a poor father and the
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: way that all the parents before him have been poor parents?
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: But is he a dead beat? No, because the term
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: technically does not apply to him. But he is a
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: poor father.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's a good point.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that, but I think again, I
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: will go back to when they were at what's the
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: name and he was helping them with their homework or whatever. Yeah,
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like, don't do ship like
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: that and actively helping them, like really wanting to be
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: there with his kids.
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Dead beats don't do that.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: And also, yeah, and on that note portion because you're
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: about to get attacked in the comments, I just want
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: to clear this up because for his sons, right their
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: own way.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: And even as Sun said, you could have did it
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: the years of that.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: Like he put them on that boat and I'm like, no,
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: these dudes made their own way, right.
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: Like you're you literally have a castle in all of
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: this title. Our mother struggled.
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: We were we ain't have nothing, and watching you walk
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: by with your robes and your title and you know,
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: just living your life while we're eating dust.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: That's dead behavior, thank you.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: So you know I a man when I said, yes,
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: two things can be you at the same time.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: He was a decent daddy and a horrible father.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah how about that?
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely where do we where does the like is
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: there a decision to be made about Damon right now,
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: it's us.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: The next thing I'm going to say, because when Massaria
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: is playing that game of like you can't trust this man,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: there's not you can't trust him. But and it's like
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: you were saying Tahoe like it's hot, it's what is
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: she playing there when it's coming to raynier us coming
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: in there on some Well it can't. Can't you agree
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: that because he was lying for his daughter that he's
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: not it's not the same thing as him just like
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: outright me not being able to trust him. And it's like,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: why are you looking to a Massaria, your lover who
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: was once Damon's lover, his jilted lover now to be
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: your voice of reason on how to judge Daymon? Why
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: can't you make up your decision on your own? And
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: it's because she just have friends. Like to be honest
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: with you, I know she just have friends, and she
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: had friends, she would actually go bounce it off with
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: her friend.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Also shows for me, but.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: It's gonna show weakness to have friends.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: And no, no, no no no, I'm not telling you
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: show me that you can't make a decision for yourself
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: and you need you need to be have confided in
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: someone else to verify you need.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you need a sounding board, like I'm not gonna
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna discount the fact like people how
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: to go to therapy because they need just like they
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: need a moment.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: Boards are good, but you also can't make a decision
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: on your own. Where's your conviction? Where's yourself? Where's your
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: self worth? What decision does she make by the end
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: of this besides to lay in bed with no And
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: that's my point.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: She don't make this.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: She don't make the decision made other people or decisions
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: to get made, and she rides with it.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't know for the for when
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: it comes to Daymon and like his relationship with Raina
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: and ray Neira and being in the middle of that,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's interesting how Rainier takes it versus how
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Damon sees it. And I think this is like it
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: is kudos to Daymon for actually being the represented for
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: his daughter that she needs in this moment, to her
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: stepmother and the person who holds power and this whole
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: dynamic of saying, what is up to Raynier's faith? Well,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Rayna's faith basically. And I think that it's interesting that
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Rayniera feels like she has to be on this like
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: back and forth about she shouldn't have to be like
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: her letting Massaria put in her head that she has
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: to make a decision on whether or not gayman can
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: be trusted when the only time he's shown her that
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: she can't trust him to tell her exactly what's going
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: on is when it has to come to his daughter like, yeah,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: it's not the grounds, that's like he's like, he's it's.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Not because he hasn't shown any mistrust in any other Really,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: that's just her vying for power, so her mean Massaria, so.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: Not I mean, but the whole head, the skeleton head
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: and all that. It's still and let's just be real again.
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: Like I said, if a dragon came towards you, you
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: would feel you would jump on the dragon, right, Like
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: if somebody made you your op's head on a platter,
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: burnt out, and this is what you thought.
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: You're looking at this head like this is the person
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: that killed my son, and then.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: You find out it's not.
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: You're not just gonna be like, oh no, you're gonna be.
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: Okay, No, you're gonna it's gonna take a minute, and
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: you're gonna reassurance. But to Portia's point, the person he
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: was fucking ain't the person that's gonna give you the
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: reassurance you need.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: And the person who's sucking you, well, no, you can't
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: turn them into a housewife. Look man, you know what
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: I mean. You know that, you know the rules. You can't.
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: People always talk to the side chicks, got That's all.
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: I always talked to the side chicks. We all seen
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: good fellows. You see how that ends.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Before we because we have to we have to start
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: wrapping up for real. But we have two major things
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: to just make sure we have our comments on, specifically
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: the whole thing with Ormond, everything involving Ormond when it
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: comes to Corless off and also obviously Egon.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: And that whole and the save that But Coreless man,
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: look I dog you every week. But sorry, dude, I
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: feel what I gotta say because this has been brought up,
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: like I feel like the riders are lacking Corless right now,
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: you know they are not.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: They put him in a state of black.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not putting the respect on this name he
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: deserves because how he got rolled up on to get
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: captured was kind of whack to me. His crew like
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: this is this is Coreless and his crew, like it's
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: a triarchy. Yeah, this is not some you know sucker ass.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: You know these are the killers and they got served
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: by Ormonds people of all, Like I haven't seen them
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: enough to like ormands. Dude almost drove himself killed if
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Wayne wasn't there, you know, Wayne Son, So that's whack.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: Like I staying with Corless fans on that. Then he
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: shouldn't even got captured. Yeah, thought he was though, Yeah,
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: I know he was.
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: No, this.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: This show is really good for let's letting you see
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: your faves die. So no, he's too big of a
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: cab that to just be untremonious. They're gonna show that.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: So I hate that. I hate how her doing right now.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: I can't lie he's still dead, but I hate how
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: they're doing.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's like, so what do you and you
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: know rightfully? So he gets the ormer He says, so
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: you got me now now what nigga? Like, what is
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: this supposed to mean?
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: I want to know what is it? What is the
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: finger four? What?
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: I mean?
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: We we know the thing will off is happening, but
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: he wants them to come to Tumbleton.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Orman is a terrorist, a grade A terrorist, and if
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: nothing else, his direction is to destabilize and to fuck
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: up your mind like, if nothing else it is to
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: He fights psychologically like you see that. He don't got
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: no streets smarts. He's book smarts. He don't got no
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: street smarts. Because when the imposters came in and he
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: thought that was his people's, he had no fucking clue
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: and he was so worried about the smell.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Right, that's not his that's not his ministry.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: His ministry is psychological warfare and for nothing else to
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: be You see who it got delivered to number one?
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: It didn't go to very nearer because that's that's very
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: nearest the hand, right, Sorry, you know, no pun intended,
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: but that's very nearest hand.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: So the finger was delivered precisely to what's his name,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Alan Alan Allen?
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Allan, because I always get their names confused. Yeah,
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: but there was delivered to Allen, directly to Allen. He
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: opened up and saw his father's finger, right, And you
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: know that Ormond knows a lot about what's going on
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: because he he has his own whisperers there. He has
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: people who had eyes and ears who was taking in
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: what's happening with his family. That's why he had his
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: people write them fuck shit graffiti on the wall. That's
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: why he had his people killed gold clothes. He is
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: having people do shit on both sides of the equation
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: to destabilize he is a terrorist. So if nothing else
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: to get you in such a fucked up mind state
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: and get multiple pieces on the boards, fucked up that
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: they can't make proper moves, and then when they do
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: make a move, it's always a mistake. And to make
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: it so that it makes it easy for him coming
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: and swoop in and win. That's what the nigga's doing.
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: I have a question.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Was Alan at King's Landing or was he at drift Mark?
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Whenever he gets the finger, he came back to Kings
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: I thought he came back to Kings Landing.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but I thought Alan had come
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: back from where he was.
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: At drift.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: He was on fire.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's there, but treachery was on fire.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: But there's yeah.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know why he would have been at drift Mark,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: But I couldn't go get the man.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: The men that he don't get the man, right, Yeah,
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: And that's that's also interesting because I wasn't sure either.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Tell I thought sure drift Mark was gone, so I
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: thought when Ormond was telling him he could have drift Mark,
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: you was just gassing him.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Sist was telling Alan, he was like, you can you
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: can send for my men, you can go.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Get my men, and he wants to go get on. Yeah,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: that's so that's why I didn't know he was still
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: there and.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: Then could be. But yeah, like you were saying, it
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: is the terrorist aspect. And because we didn't mention this either,
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: Alan and Adam are about to have you know, issues,
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: because Adam goes up and Goofy asked you know things
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: Shorty talking about him. He's like, oh, your brother didn't.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Tell you yet, right, she almost slipped up. And that's
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: If you look at Orram, which is why I'm like,
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: at least to a degree, he is fully locked in
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: because Ormond never does anything himself. He pushes just enough
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: to make like you know Domino's, he pushes just enough
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: to make something else occurs, always a chain reaction. He
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: knows what to say or do, or who to invoke,
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: who to you know who to turn on or turn
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: off to make shit happen for himself, just like the
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: old thing. Oh probably would have betrayed with anybody, but
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: or made Mormon made it easy. He showed up with
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: some fucking liquor and just said hey.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: And the line that meeting was that because I said
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: last week that he was going to recruit him when
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: little Shorty saw him getting stomped in the mud, but
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: you'd already been recruited.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: He had been recruited.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: He'd been recruited.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Tahoe was like Tahoe. The whole thing was was like Ring.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: He has been undermining Ring near this whole time. That
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: was like when I saw that scene, I was like, ah, man,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Tahoes right, like this is orchestrated the whole way through.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: It was like it was like it wasn't just like
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: he just happened to be like a drug.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Was like, oh, remember that last conversation we had, Like
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: it was so funny because I'm like they was being
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: heavy handed with the writing. They were like, oh, remember
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: when we spoke before, like three times. I'm like, damn,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: how many times did y'all?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: This is how and how long has he been his man,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: since he before he became a Dragon writer, probably drinking.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: Bro, probably would drink in the bars. Bro, Like, that's
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: the only thing that we know about Olf is being
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: in the bars.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: But we were Mormon.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: Ain't gonna be in the bars.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: But we don't listen his people be in there though.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And office is cheap man, a cheap hole. Man.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: He go somewhere for a bottom of fucking oe. Bro,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: He's like, oh they got they got drinks over there.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: A pull up, no problem, I pull up me and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: the dragon. I could sit my dragon over here and
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: a lot anybody gonna fuck with it. Pull up? You
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, Man, a friend of mine when he was being
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: recruited for college wouldn't go he was a football player
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: and wouldn't go to a certain town because they didn't
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: have his preferred brand of forty ounce there exactly.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: And oh my god, standard.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: He's now he's now a very well paid dinner so
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: you know it works. Yeah, a standard.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: I don't see being uh worthy adversary. By the way,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: I just see him doing some fun ship.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he don't know, but he got the big dragon,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: that's the prime dragon.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: But he he also don't. But he is not like this.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: He just does what someone tell him to do.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: He's gonna fuck something up.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: In some respects, he's going to be the sheep dealer
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: in the people form. He's just going to be a
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: wild card that's gonna nervous fully, He's gonna be purposefully.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: I would give that after a lot of credit though,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: because that look when he said oh no, they will burn. Yeah,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: that that was fire. Like my man, it was a
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: whole different you know, Off in that one moment, and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: we've seen before that was like, oh I'm I'm I'm
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: here now.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: But now that I see now that we see at
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: least in the show, that's how Off goes to the
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: other side of the dark side, if you will, How
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: is Hugh gonna go to the dark sid Remember he
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: went to go get his his his woman.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: She said fuck you on the dark side, right, But like,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: like literally, like.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: Is he gonna waitch?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: I think that he joins Off?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Is he gonna get's gonna happen?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: I think Huge just wiles out on his own, like
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: I feel like Hugh and Hugh kills off.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: I feel like Hugh kills Off because if anything, I
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: don't know. I just they've been like these these best
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: buddies this whole time, not best buddies, but they're always
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: shown together the relationship form to me, right, they keep
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: showing together.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: They don't have to do that. For instance, they don't
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: show Adam with them. They always show them too.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: And they're both having these experiences with the dragons versus
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: their families or their regular lifestyles, but on different levels.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: So now so Q going through it over here, all
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: has now chosen side.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: We don't know what side she was gonna. I don't
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: know if it's in the book, but Hugh, maybe they
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: go at each other.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: I see, I can see what happening. I want to die.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: So that's why I can see it, you.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 6: Q as a unless Off stabs them in the back,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: like I can see that, Like he'd.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: Be the honorable one, honorable one that doesn't realize his
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: compadre is a fucking you know snake and stabs Hugh
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: in the back.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: And that would be our honorable death of the season.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: I could see that happening.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: But okay, that might that might be the case. And
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: then just lastly again, the big the other big joker
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: here about uh Laris says peace out to Agon, he's
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: not there for the ships. Agon says, I'm gonna stand
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: my ground along with Thailand and and a miracle happens.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: I never saw Agon having this moment ever, never never
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: saw it never never Irish. I was like, wow, because
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: in the face of death, a lot of times you cower.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: You you know what I mean, Hey, I want to
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: see tomorrow. He was like, fuck that ill is speech
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: ever speach of the whole fucking season.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, Tully, I'm billing accept the bones and I ain't
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: got enough bones left.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: But which is a short bard And again, when you
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: talk about acting like I love Agon's after y'all, I
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: want to see him in love ship because he is
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: like the range he has shown this season has been incredible.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: He smoked and and that.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: Fucking speech like you were talking about the after show.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: They're like a lot of people can find themselves. Weird
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: it out that they're cheering for Agon right now. I
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: I'm cheering for this, Megga. I've jumped out of my seat.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: My man a gone back up?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Yo, what's up?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Fan?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: Fam?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: It is I Tatiana King, and I want y'all to
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: know that I need you to do me a favorite.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: Please share this show. You're listening to us, you're watching us,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: but you're gatekeeping and I don't understand why you're doing that.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: I really need you to share with your friends, share
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: with your mama, share with your cousin, share with everybody,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: because if you're like me, you love to share the joy.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: And it's really important that you do that. So please
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: tell people about.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Four O Nerds.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: I love you.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Let's I mean, mister, I wasn't cheering for him.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: I did think that he found he found some bit
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: of self respect and decided to, you know, speak on it,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: which is good for you.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: I was cheering for Sunfire. I just like Sunfire dormant
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: who came out the day, but also Eggon. It's also
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: two faces. It's funny because like for me, I was like,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: we never know, like this is the first time, like
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: you said earlier Tansiana, where we're seeing the dragons as
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: much as we are in this universe, so we don't
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: know enough about how dragons function. Like y'all were talking
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: about Ray near his dragon looking down bad or serious
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: looking down bad. I filed invites or whatever, but they
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: were ruffling tusseling that was alpha stuff. We don't know
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: how long it takes for Dagon. We don't know how
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: long it takes dragons.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: We don't know.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: We don't know what happens, Like what is the worst
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: thing to dragon scale in this world? We don't know.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: We don't know.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: So Sunfire has been out for like months, if.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Not like a year.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: Be clear, When I say I need rest, that's when
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: I say I'm tired.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm never getting enough.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: I need that.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: I need four or five months at no kids, no work,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: no fucking nothing. I just need rest in the middle of.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: The woods, nobody out out. And I swear like I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: just so for Sunfire to rise. Still, I rise out
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: of the depths of the forest for Aggon of all
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: the people. But that's his dragon, though, And I think
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: like that was a connection, like whenever he came up
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: earlier in the season and he just wanted to lay there,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: he didn't want to go anywhere, he just wanted to
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: be there with Sunfire. And then when they're on the
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: way back to Rooks Rest, that being the place they
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: end up because there's no reason for them to go
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: to Rooks Rest. At that point, I just want to
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: know that Leanister is the problem because how are you
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: at your wits end? Don't really have cash, but you
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: still don't like at like you're just a regular normal person.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Him being having to know how people know who he
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: was is what led to him being caught out there
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: whenever they're like, oh, we're looking for Lanister. If the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: normal folk didn't know who he was, he could have
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: said he was a totally it wouldn't have mattered he
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been a thing. But that's a Lanister
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: ego for you. So he's the one who does more
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: of like a hunt on him than a gon does,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: and that is why he I'm like, he's not sending
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: a last stand with a gong because he's brave. He's
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: sending a last stand with a gong because it's it
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: makes the most sense because like, if he runs either
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: way it goes, he might get caught up. Because he's
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: a Lanister, he knows exactly what he's up for. So
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: and so it like for me, some fire popping up
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: like that was my moment. I don't like agon okay whatever,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: but for me, like it was interesting that Laris slept
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: because he's a cripple and a Gon, and sun Fire
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: popped up is like endured, like all the hardship has
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: like is now quote unquote crippled and was the one
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: who popped up for Agon in that moment.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: And it really makes Larrics look like a punk because
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: Agon is just as crippled, and you know, he still
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: stood up from but he didn't know that at the time.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: You know, he was just like, I'm going to go out,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: you know, and he pulled his sword, gave his speech
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: and had no idea that the Dragon was bond him.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: Them arrows could have come right through himping, that would
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: have been the end of that. But you know, he
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: still went out like that, you know, And that's why
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: I like, I get Agon has been a monster and everything.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: But and people don't think he's capable of redemption, but
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: I've seen it, like when he asked Tiwin, you know before,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: am I a good person? And Taywind tried to give
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: him the you know, yeah, and he was like, nah, man,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: I'm not a good person. We going to essos Bro
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: stopped trying to gast me. And so he is slowly
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: but surely, you know, and I don't think he's gonna
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: turn it to a good person, because I don't think
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: there are many good people on this show, but I
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: know I cheer for that man because he gave that
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: speech and said, yeah, I don't.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's ever gonna be redemption for eggn
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: I just do think that he got you know, he
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: got juiced back up, especially when he shanked that other
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: nigga who you know, found his crown, like you saw
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: that look on his face, like I got my he
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: I got Like what I kept saying, it just about
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: believing in one yourself, believing in your having self conviction.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: That Nigga has self conviction for days. He's a horrible leader,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: a horrible person, horrible, there's a horrible that. But you
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: cannot tell that Nigga he's not the king. And that
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: is the one corresponding thing you have to look at
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: when you look at Aggon and what he's going through,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: and when you look at Raynier and what she's going
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: and the fact that everything you know, regardless of what
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: nobody saying, say or don't say, or do or don't do,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: you cannot tell Agon he ain't the fucking king. Rayniera,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: she she needs to be. I gotta believe it. Tell me,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: tell me, tell me, tell me that I'm the queen,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: you know, like it's it's a dynamic that they're showing
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: you on purpose. And this whole sun Fire card was
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: just crazy shit.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: You know, it's dickless, burnt up, and it's still like
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: I'm the King fan, you know what I mean. It's
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: tough on him, but that's what I'm saying. But he's
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: still like I'm the King.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: And and that you could talk about that's nurture versus
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: nature and all sorts of things like he was. He
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: was brought up to, hey, yo, you're the.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: King, you know.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: So you know, before y'all go, I know y'all want
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: to we gotta get out of here. But I'm going
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: to talk about Alison poisoning her son.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Yea, that's the That's actually the last thing I was
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: going to say. But no, you know, you go ahead, man.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: I don't really know what to say. I'm I just
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: thought it was mad funny how Alice is like this
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 6: stupid ass nigga. I just told.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Alice Rivers Alex Rivers.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: She looked a like, you fucking idiot.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: I told you, you told you your mother was here
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: to do you ill will my nigga like she did
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: tell him, Ali said, getting away with it is my
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: question because Allison was at the door like she was.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: She did the poison ship and go and ran out,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: But is she gonna make it back to she.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: Has people waiting like in the woods for her.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: But she had the one guy that got killed.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so she must. But they sent her for like
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: three dudes at least if she sent.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Her off with some more dudes, that is true waiting
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: because like my question too, was that like a King's
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Road and we've seen how busy the King's Road is
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: currently and we heard how who's wife's like whole trajectory
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: whenever she went on the road by herself, So I
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: was like, like, she must have some kind of protection
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: because there's no way you're gonna get on the kings
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Road as a woman and finery, Like she's not even
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: looking like a like a regular degular woman like, which
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: is wild, but yeah, like she's gonna have something going
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: up her sleeve. But like and then and the previews
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: for the next episode, we do see like a little
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: bit of her on the King's rope with other with
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: men like in some armor or whatever. So I'm guessing
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: like those other men that she loves.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, and then she made it back no problem.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: I didn't.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I didn't expect that to be her plane
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: and to kill her son.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Was that what what the whole thing was about with
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: ray nearerer Raniera literally says she did say, if I
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: send the sword, it's gonna be problem. If I send you,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: he's not gonna suspect you. And you saw Allison try to.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: She went through several modes of how do I kill
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: the nd me get this dagger or that. She looked
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: around for the night shade. She was trying to figure
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: out what worked for her and all back to the
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: very beginning of our conversation when I thought that dream
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: was real because I thought she would go that.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Would she really go that far to kill her son?
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Allison is I mean, ray
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: Neier is beyond grimey f we seed. But damn, Allison, like,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: how was that blaming my niggas?
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: Who are my kids?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: She?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: Yes, but I'm not. But I'm sending the mom to
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: kill the you two are my kids? Saying, once again,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: blaming the wrong people. That's her problem.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're saying.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: It's directly responsible for Luca's like, is a real beef
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: to have?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: But but Alice, well, okay, getting rid of him, true,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: but sending a mom to do it. It's just like
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: Grindy in the Game of Thrones.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: That to me, that's right near.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: It did this whole time Martin. You know how is
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: it very smart?
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: It's not smart very smart, it's justified.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: I mean it was the best it was our best option.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: It was pretty sor what else?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: She got burn now the phrase she's like, uh.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: She was like, you know what, take it, just take
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: your hair.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: And just go do it.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: But she don't know that he's there.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: She thinks that she spects he might be there.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: No, she knows she's there because Helena, Yeah, and she
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: knows and she believes in dreamers.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: So yeah, Yo.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: First of all, Ben again, y'all know I'm go in tangents.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: But then this is all Alice is fault the whole thing.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: It's was my friend, you fucked my dad, You fucked
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: my dad, and now you stole my fucking crown and
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: gave it to your fuck ass son.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: And you're gonna tell me that and then kill which
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: wound up. Two of my kids is dead.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: It's not you, No, it's it's definitely funck out your
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: own eye, go kill your own son.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: Yes, and that, But what I'm saying is it's what
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: Alison also told her in there. The Crown will make
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: you do these things that you think, you know, you
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: weren't gonna do before, and now she did it, do it,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: but I'm making you do it? Is don't live on you.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all watch Power Raising Kanaan, but
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: you know, and I'll actually I don't want to spoil it,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: but Caanan this week did some ship. It's the same
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: type of thing, like nah, fam no, Like it's the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: levels are going to turn you into a heartless monster,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: and that that's one of the steps to becoming a
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: heartless monster is sending your friend off to kill her son.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, but are you also calling Alison heartless?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: Because we've been there been war been there, been there
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: done that is.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: It is that heartless? Is that? How for her to
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: kill one to save Helena?
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: And Alison already said the Crown is gonna make you
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: do things. I've already done those things. I'm already a
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: cold blooded monster. It's don't turn you into one too.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: She she she did already lie.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: She already lied like fifty times in Elena talking about
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're gonna get your Sarah's when we live
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: in there.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: Done that had no intention of bringing a little girl.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: It turns everybody in the heartless monster. So it don't
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: get you too. You know, the ring of power, you know,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: it gets everyone.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 6: Is Aim undead or does Alice saving saves him.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: She got designs on that, she got designs and play.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: She didn't even like react, you know, She's like she
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: like and mix some ship, you know, like that was
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: her reaction.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: Like what I thought. It was funny, Like if y'all
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: was listening closely.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: Once Aim and fell and she said ship, there was
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: like a frog croak that happened right at the exact
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: same time, and I was just like, these niggas is
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: crazy and game of throats, like the sound design, the.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: Writing, the cut to Ormond chopping up the meat after
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: how oh, I can't remember what happened right before that,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: something was somebody gets chopped or something, and then Ormond's
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: at the dinner table slicing up the ham and it's
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: like yo, this is this show is hilarious.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Then Ormond said, he's like, I like, and so I
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: want to I just want to bring this up because it,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: like last episode been made a point about like there's
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: no race in Game of Thrones, but it was kind
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: of racist, and I like, but I don't know if
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: it kind of go over your head and lets you
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: know what's going on. What was so Ormond whenever they're
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: at the table eating and he's like he's talking, he's
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: chopping to meat. He's like, I'm thinking about going vegetarian.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: Like the people of Naith Naith are like very mazande,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: like they're black people basically ah, and he was saying
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: like basically two cordless, like why wouldn't you be more
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: like them? Or whatever? Like why would you like keep
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: been all over the world.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: And like, oh, why could you be respectable black? Why
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: trying to say the are you.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Over here worried about the Targarians? What the Targarians do?
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: You could be like you should be like these other
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: black folks.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: Oh I didn't. I didn't.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, okay, but like if you know people people
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: are they're the black folks and they're not the ones
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: in power. They're like they have their own little thing.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: And he is also at the same time, he is
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: not giving the Valerians their due respect because there are
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: also people from the Valerian Empire, like the Targarians, so
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: they were Dragon writers too. He's up here saying why
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: are you with the Targarians when those are their natural
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: allies because they both came from the same place. But
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: denying him that, he's saying, why are you over there
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: with them? Aren't you supposed to be more like these
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: other folks that.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: He said, you're a gyettle black, why don't you be
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: with the upstanding blacks?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: See? But I think it's also the racism towards the
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: Targarians more so than anything. He definitely is racist towards Targarians.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: And so that like because I didn't I get what
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: you're saying, and I see that, And that's interesting that
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: they did that, because that does paint Cordless as black,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: you know, which is and and.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: This is hard y'all because.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: To be like real, Frank, like I've said it, like,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: there isn't black people quote in Game of Throne.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's toxic whiteness, but there.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: Is right as black reviewers, we see black skin, but
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: we also understand like it's both we're putting a layer
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: on our lived experience and who we are as people
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: on these most usually for comedy, but also at the
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: end of the day, we're also very well aware that
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: these people are not considered quote black, like in the
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six Western View.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: We get it right.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, just a disclaimer for people listening and watching, because
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: it's going to be somebody in the commisay.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: Just just let you just yeah.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: But that but like Portia said, that is just not
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: wrong because that's also a layered look at and.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: That's also like, are the writers now painting Coreless as
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: one of the black people of this world? And you know,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: is there racism towards black people.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: For no reason? Right now?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: One last thing, I just wanted to talk about how
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: Raina went from prom queen, I mean prom fiend to
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: prom queen, you know, with one bath and a new
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: silk robe. Her hair like immediately glowed up. That was amazing.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: That Bela, That Bayla and Raina scene remind me of
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: Beyonce and Solange.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, yes, it was very Beyonce Solange. You had
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: like Solange out here just but Solange would never do that,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: never do that so long.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: As your three classic albums. Man, you need to start
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: over right now.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: I know the wild card.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: Beating up my husband. I love you anyway, don't worry.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 6: I just do this together. And Solan just like, he
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 6: just makes me so mad. That's what he seen looks
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 6: like to me.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: Beyonce was more like, well not Beayla was more like,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: I have like Alan anyway. So Jason's no great loss,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: You're good.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Anything else that we missed that I wanted to mention
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: or anything you want to say. The next episode.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 6: Between Alan and Adam in the street, it might be
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 6: beef because but what what is? What is? What are predictions?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 6: What happens?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: They're not even in the same room as what I'm like.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: They're not because if Alan is at Drift Mark, if
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Adam is over here like with Ryan, you'r and him
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: or whatever I.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: Was going on to, why would they show it to us, Porsche.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: They showed it to us for a reason.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: Show this season finale or no, no, no, not this week.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, no, that goes on that season. Yeah,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: it's not done yet.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: They have to give us enough amped up to actually
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: care to wait through whatever how much time it's gonna
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: take them in the film and give us the next season.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: Adam is reacting badly? Something now or goofball, bro.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying nothing's going to happen with them the
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: next episode. I'm saying we're not going to see the
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: ultimate of what I mean. I don't If we do,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: that'll be interesting, But what does that make Wait?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 6: Do you know what happens?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: I know there are she knows happened in sequence, yet
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: before we get to certain different parts of the story.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: And she knows, she knows, she knows these things, and
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: she can't tell us.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I think that stretches out because I
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: don't think is right. Alan is uh tough enough to
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: do anything right now, He's gonna go cry Tod him.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Like, what did you take my girl?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: Are they cousins? Their cousins Bayla Beyla is the granddaughter.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: That's that's uncle.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: Wait oh yeah yeah Adam or Alan?
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: Yes, both of them are uncles.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, and Baylay Helena their mother was there?
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: Is their sisters?
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: Grand her face she was like, the told you the
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: mother is the father and the grandma is the baby.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 6: Got it.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: My man was piping me down in the Dragon.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: No they okay, y'all taking y'all taking it further than
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't because like, okay, but you
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: gotta think about who Alan is, and you think about
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: like because Beyla is, she's high born, she's gonna do
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: whatever she wants.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 6: She's hype born.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: But Alan is who he is. He's trying to come
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: up in his father's house like he can't. He's not
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: gonna do too much. Dam is right now, his uncle.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: She said, one night, don't worry about anything. You think
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: he gonna stop, you know, like he's not gonna worry
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: about anything for that one night, which means being in
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: the Dragon.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Keep I okay, anything anything else, anything else.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: He's not gonna stop her. The kids fam look like
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: ross out here. I could die tomorrow.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: See, not that it's an age difference, Okay, Anyway, anything else?
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 6: Is there any redemption? Is there redemption arc for Reina?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: No, there's a there's a burn everything to the ground
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: arc for Raina. Oh, Raina, Oh sorry, I thought you meant.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: For the next episode.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 6: No, I think I did, but I was half sleep Raina.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Rainiera yokes up braina, yes by the face.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: Look, yeah, I've already said that Rainier is the type
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: to stab somebody in the middle of the night and
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: regretted the next day. You know, I've already said that,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: Like she is that like s yeah, like run up
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: on you, you know, because I thought, like, for a second,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: I thought Damion was gonna catch this episode. You know,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: I thought for a second when he was in there
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: with her, I thought you gonna grab something and jute
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: that dude, and it'd be like, ah, you know, I'm sorry,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: you know, but for a second, so Raina could definitely
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: catch it. Is there is there redemption art for our hope?
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: So I love that girl. I love that little fiend
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: like they sent her up.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like this whole story line has set
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: her up to not be the kind of character that
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: needs the redemption art. And I don't know what they're
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: going to do with their.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: Next Like the writers don't either.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: Say, y'all put her in the worst position possible.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: Now horrible, This is a horrible storyline. This hurts horrible.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: Leaving the kids on the road to wherever they's going,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: running into the wood into the mountains.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: Like which which she was.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: Did did they mention that, know that they said she's
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: been living amongst the sheep, and then.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: That's that was supposed to be a call.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: No, that was a throwaway. That was to make us
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: be like, whack, whack, whack.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: You know, man, we got one more episode left, y'all
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: if y'all don't have nothing else.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: To say, I'm hyped for this one. I'm hyped for
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: the last episode much more than I was last season.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: I thought, you know, yeah, I think next week is
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: gonna be lit. You know that that I will say.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: I think that's more Jurassic Park, more more dancing. I
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: saw my Stark man getting busy in that preview, Old
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: Stark Winter.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Think we're gonna see the because, like I think, like
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Tyler was saying, they mentioned things for a reason. Do
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: you think they mentioned the six dragons be we're going
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: to see the six dragons ship.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: Six dragon a. They're talking about Helena Dragon though they
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: were talking about Raina.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: They were talking about Rainier's dragons available to her, and
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: they were saying, you have six dragons.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: She did say something in that previous they will learn
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: or something about.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: Potentially Helen am I thought, maybe even potentially Halene you
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: don't know what Helene is about to do.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: The dream.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: That's the first time I see her on her dragon,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: and I never seen that dragon with the dream.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: That ship was wild. Her dragon is real pretty What about.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 6: What about Helena? Or we didn't speak about it Helena's dream?
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: We didn't, That's what I was saying, like her dreaming
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: about being on her dragon, all her dreams.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we spoke about it, I mean so deep. All right,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: my bad, I heard ahead.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 6: But we're definitely saying that the ice, the coldness is
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 6: the White Walkers.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: Right, Maybe we said it couldn't mean a lot of
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: different Yeah, it could.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: Mean the White Walkers. It could mean the graying of
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: everything between where things aren't black, good and bad? Yeah,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: right and wrong.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: It could also mean you're prophecy with like John Snow
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: and all that.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: It could be that because she's a dreamer, so they
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: see things like way ahead, they see the future.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: And it also could be like, you know, you ain't
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: never gonna have that nice idyllic life that you're thinking of,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: right right, you know that? Yeah?
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: It could be also one question I have for you
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: in Haron Hall, that white you you like the red leaves,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: is that like a wereward tree.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: That is Okay, that's what I thought.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: So that's the special tree you can I expect any
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: any castle that is not like further Stuth, like the
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: Reach has one, but I don't think that Old Town
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: has one. The Landishers, I don't They may or may
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: not have one at the Lanisters, but most everyone, like
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: in the river Lands higher has a word with tree
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: in their their holdings.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's one of the double checks.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: So that's how important the three raven can see the
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: history from different viewpoints because the trees are in different places.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: Like a waypoint. Ah, so everywhere the tree is it
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: like basically has all the knowledge and history of what's happening.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: Now is surveillance camera across the trees.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: It is, especially the file. I'm just lacked. Uh Nigga
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Coola is dead so I'm not happy about that, and
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: I don't fucking know what's about to happen in the
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: next episode.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: To be honest with you, I think I'm wondering who
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: if you have five key players of the next the
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: last episode, five, yes, who would they be?
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: Arm and Rainier, White Worm, Damon one more? I want
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: to say Vaguar. There we go because I want to
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: say corner, but it's definitely Vaguar because he's been talked
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: up all goddamn season and we have not seen the
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: bad Boy, so yeah, it's definitely.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: We just don't know what's happening.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: Girl, put some respect on my girl, big girl. You know,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: watch out for the Big Girls. It's happening next week.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: It's a great Baltimore's song, y'all.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: For next episode, depending on how it goes, be like,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: watch off for the Big Girl.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: Yes, thank you for bringing it up. I think about
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: I've been thinking about it. I meant to say Vey Guar.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: We didn't say her name this week, and I'm like, yo,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: next week she cooking something, something getting cooked by Vagar
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: next week.
• 1:29:35
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