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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman & Lindahl 6/4/24 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Big Ota day today, A little Wendy out there? How did everybody look?
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  Let's check in with our pal Jeff Lagwalld right now ESPN's own He joins
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  us on the Ramos Law Hotline Car accident. You need Ramo's Law medical doctor
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  and attorney. Visit ramos Law dot com. Leggy, how you doing,
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  man? I'm great, We're doing well. Andy is doing surprisingly well and
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  Limber I might act. Could you do a worm there? Leggy? Did
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  you ever do the worm? Once upon a time as a young hefe rolling
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  around getting to make some friends in your younger years? You ever a break
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  answer the I'm the life of the party, dude. You should know that,
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  whatever it takes, just give me the note. Just give me.
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  I told you like, well, it's more of a rocket. He doesn't.
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  What would be your dance? What's the go to dance? Did you
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  do a little chatcha, a little shimmy? Just a white man's overbite?
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  What did you have? What'd you do? Wow? Over bite? Lit
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  Lawrence ballroom dancing? Wow? Look at you? He always act like I'm
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  just like would you went to see Frankie Valley? What were you doing to
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  dance? Dude? I'm not even gonna I'm not even dignifying you. He's
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  not even suffering me today. Football, Yeah question, I'm not. I'm
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  not lining up the testimonials, but I could. Let's get that, okay,
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  Okay, I like that. We're gonna need you to too. Then
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  I'm gonna have to gonna have to get the backs. Just wormed in the
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  hallway, got there, Jeff, He wormed every buddy. He ain't gonna
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  get me a dance partner. But this kid's back is working on like Lombards.
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  Are you gonna be okay tomorrow? I'm gonna be just fine. This
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  is all fine. I told you. It's more worried about hitting the little
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  people. That's more worried about in the old gutae that starts there Jeff and
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  slowly creeps up. Jeff is like, what the hell did we agree to?
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  Just like, I'm out, that's just why we don't have a freezer
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  to clean. I'm getting that. That's what he does, is why he
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  does Monday. Yes, Tuesdays are a mess. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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  now you know why you're never look Jeff that there's more interesting things going on
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  and practice you wouldn't be suffering this. But Uh, it's the world you're
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  living in. What do you got for me? What do you want to
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  know about practice? How the secondary look today? Jeff How is this secondary?
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  Is this a good secondary? Patrick Certan is good? What else is
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  good? Oh? Patrick Artan hasn't been participating much that too, I will
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  say, you know, people want to know, you know, Riley Moss
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  is getting a lot of run, you know right now with the defensive starters.
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  Well that means anything in late July and early August, we'll see,
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  but it is very telling that there is an awful lot of Riley Moss to
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  Mara Matthis and and j Kwan McMillan when they're in sort of that first nickel
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  look, and there's no certain in the equation. All right? What about
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  the safety position though, Jeffer Jones? What they're gonna miss justin miss Justice
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  Simmons. You know they're really hoping PJ. Lock is ready for a big
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  you know, a big jump and ready for the opportunity, you know he
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  uh, you know. Caden Stearns, who actually I think we all forget
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  had earned the starting gig last year, has not participated much as he comes
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  back either. But I think PJ. Lock is a player they like and
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  have high hopes for, and he's he's gonna have to be everything they hope
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  for. I think to not have sort of, you know, some slippage
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  in the secondary and in today's league, you better survive in the nickel plenty
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  if you're gonna make it, and I think that'll be something I've got my
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  eye on as they moved through the preseason. Break down the offense for US
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  today, Jeff, I know, because here's what I think is funny is
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  it's almost like Peyton. Here's what we talk about sometimes on the sideline.
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  But you guys are mentioning the win. And again I'll give you one of
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  Gale Force win today. It wasn't knocking towers over or anything like that,
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  but it was a fair that he was a noticeable wind. It wasn't a
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  light breeze, and it looked like the wind affected some things. Just break
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  down what you saw out of the offensive sessions. Again, it's so early
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  in this process, but my sense is you've got two guys really sort of
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  playing conservatively in bow Knicks and Jared Steadham and Zach Wilson the sort of far
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  more will to take a look up the sideline or to take a look,
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  you know, down the hash a little deeper, so we'll see how it
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  plays out when it's really underway. But again, a superficial view, A
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  very superficial view. I cautioned people. But it feels to me you got
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  like two guys trying to play par golf to not make big mistakes, and
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  the third guy is a little more willing to take a chance for a bigger
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  player or two. But it's just OTA's They can't really do a whole lot
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  and seven on seven. You guys know how I feel it is. It
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  is not a gauge of anything substantive for me, It's just an assignment drill.
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  Does everybody know their assignments. It's not to be used in my mom
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  as a grading scale for anything. Jeff lake Wall to ESPN he's with us
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  here and a Tuesday afternoon breaking down the OTA practice. That was Jeff joins
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  us on the ramos Law hotline Car accident. You need ramos Law medical doctor
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  and attorney. Visit Ramoslaw dot com. This is, I guess, more
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  of a procedural question here, Jeff. But Andy and I were talking about
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  this when when it comes to Bonnicks. Okay, and evaluating a player it
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  was the sixth quarterback taking in a draft at twenty four years of age,
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  what he was asked to do with the University of Oregon, and evaluating him
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  fairly while also you know, having standards and milestones that we need to see
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  him meet as a as a rookie quarterback as we go through camp in the
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  preseason in August and into September, what are the little things that you,
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  Jeff Legold, are going to tick off the list to be like, Okay,
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  he's he's at least on a good track right now. You know,
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  I think I personally look or uh. They have a little progression drill they
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  do the quarterbacks off to the side. I really pay attention during that because
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  it's it's a very spur of the moment, real time. It's a it's
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  a really good drill. They essentially bark out the progressions to the quarterback,
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  you know, as soon as he gets the ball and then they have to
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  adjust. So I like to watch that. I like to watch, you
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  know, the silly things people don't may not think mean much, but you
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  know, how do they get in and out of the huddle? Are players
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  looking back like, Okay, I didn't get the call or I don't know
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  what's going on, because you saw a lot of that when things aren't going
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  well in a quarterback competition with some of the guys here in the past.
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  The linemen walked to the line of scrimmage and they're looking back at the quarterbacks
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  still because they still aren't sure of everything, because uh, you know,
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  Sean Slayton's offense is a version of the West Coast offense, and it is
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  known for very wordy play calls, very long play calls. It's part of
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  the offense and it is part of the challenge to a young quarterback running the
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  huddle in it and that's kind of will be a big part of his early
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  progression, you know, is he too deep in the play clock by the
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  time they get to the line of scrimmage, because that that is a huge
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  thing for people to keep an eye on. And again, turnovers, you
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  know, turnovers are turnovers will lose you the job. And I don't care
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  if you're turning it over on Wednesday or Sunday, it all counts huge and
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  that will always be something to pay attention to. And bonicks especially, you
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  know, I don't know that the it's part of the Broncos progression per se,
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  but it will be. If he's the starter, he has to show
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  he can challenge all parts of the field, and frankly, he has not
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  done that in the they brief OTAs that we've been able to see. You
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  know, a three day mini camp will be a little better next week to
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  get a little bigger view. But I you know, and they haven't.
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  They haven't obviously unveiled anything. But today they did a red zone period and
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  they only challenged the end zone on two throws, and one of them was
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  a throwaway. So I don't know that you can live that way in the
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  real world once the regular season starts. I thought it was interesting. I
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  want to go back to your comment and then the last answer. You felt
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  like Stidhaman Knicks are playing par golf for Zach Wilson's not afraid to let it
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  rip a little bit. You think some of that is out of Zach Wilson
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  knows he's got to do something pretty great to earn the starting job, and
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  the other two feel like they're battling for it, or do you just think
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  that shows us the natures of these QBS. I think some of it is
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  the part we don't think about. Jack Wilson started more games than the other
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  guys have. I mean, he he instead has been around the longest.
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  But Zach Wilson is the most experienced quarterback in real games of the three.
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  So I think that's some of it. I think some of it's just his
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  nature as a player, and some of it is what you're saying. I
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  think he knows now. He also made the biggest mistake today as well,
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  so that's the part he's going to have to temper. But again it's just
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  my early read is I see two guys playing it really close to the vest
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  because they want to win the job and believe mistakes will be the separating factor,
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  whereas Zach Wilson may feel like, hey, I was I'm not the
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  first round pick and I'm not the guy who was here last year, so
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  I might as well show off what I can do that the other two guys
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  can't do as well, and that is push the ball, you know,
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  down the field with some velocity, going to be fairy. Zach Wilson he
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  only knows mistakes, So it's it all sort of fits the profile right there.
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  You know what I'm saying exactly. I think he knows he's the most
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  physically gifted quarterback. Yeah, you know, you might as well show what
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  you can show. But you know, again, he did make the big
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  mistake today, and that's that doesn't count much. Now. A little bit
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  you get yelled at and all that, and you'll see it in the in
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  the review. But you know, he throws that same ball in the second
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  week of August and that's gonna sting a lot, you know, in terms
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  of your evaluation. All right, So Jeff Lakewall of ESPN today, Sean
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  Payton was asked if Courtland Sutton's attendance is to be expected at mandatory mini camp.
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  I want to play the audio of Shawn's answer to that question right here,
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  and then I want to ask you a little bit about motive behind this
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  answer. Yeah, I think he'll be here for a mini camp. I
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  mean, it's mandatory. And what when I've been asked about Courtland, I'm
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  going to say this, man, I just know his work ethic, I
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  know the player, and you know there's there's a list of things that race
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  through your mind this time in the offseason as a head coach, and respectfully
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  when I say this to him, because he and I have talked, I
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  think that'll work itself out. So I think he'll be here, Yeah,
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  but I don't know that for sure. Interesting answer right there. I believe
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  he'll be there. I don't know for sure. It is mandatory, which
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  he can, you know, fall back on the CBA if he needs to.
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  Right there. What's going on with that answer right there, jeffle Sean
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  Payton speaking out of pocket? Was he trying to speak it into existence?
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  Was he trying to put some pressure on Courtland Sutton? What did you make
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  of that answer? I don't think they're putting pressure, but I do think
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  they expect him to be here and you and it'll hest Courtland one hundred grand
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  if he's not one hundred and one grand and change to be exact, but
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  and that's real money, even if you're Courtland Sutton. So I think they
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  fully expect him to be there. Now. He hasn't been here for any
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  of the conditioning, for any of the ohas, so I doubt he would
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  do very much, if anything, in drills. But if he comes,
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  but I think they would like him here and are very nicely telling him it
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  is mandatory and we can and likely will find you for not being here.
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  So I think that's where it is. I think they expect him to be
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  here. I think they'll be slightly disappointed if he's not. But I still
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  get no sense any real contract adjustment, any significant contract adjustment, is on
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  the horizon there. And you know, again, he's his base salary is
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  thirteen million, two million of it's already guaranteed because he was on the roster
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  through March. There just isn't a lot of wiggle room in the contract too,
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  and they don't have the cap space frankly to up it in a in
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  a even a bookworking sort of way. So not a lot of options on
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  either side of this. So it's really weird to me that it both sides
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  let it get to this point without some kind of definitive answer like no,
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  we're not going to adjust your deal, you know, move on, or
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  you know, just whatever they're going to do, and maybe they throw some
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  incentives out there and everybody calls it a compromise and he comes in. But
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  I would guess he would be here next week and not do very much on
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  the field. But I will tell you the red zone drills I have seen
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  He's the only finisher right now among the receivers. Again, in balls that
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  go to the end zone, and they only threw two today in an entire
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  red zone period, they threw two balls to the end zone. One of
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  them was a throwaway, the other one is to a player who likely would
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  not be on the field, Michael in a game this season. Yeah,
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  okay, So the simple question, although I feel like you're answering it,
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  has Courtland gained any leverage in this thing after OTAs? Has he gained any
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  leverage? I don't think either side has much leverage other than they both need
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  each other. Courtland needs to a crew a season to get closer, they
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  get into the market, and you know, I think seven hundred and seventy
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  yards isn't going to inspire them to do something. You know, if he
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  had a twelve hundred yard season, maybe we're having a different discussion. Now.
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  Ten touchdowns, He's tied for fourth last year in the league, which
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  is damn good. And again right now, I have a hard time seeing
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  where the ten touchdowns come from if he's not on the field. But you
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  know, there's a lot of time between now and games and all of that.
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  But they you know, it's been glaring in the practices so far with
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  the young receivers. Josh Reynolds will have an impact in this offense, but
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  they they aren't full of finishers all over the place in terms of who can
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  win a contested catch other than Courtland and Tim Patrick and possibly Josh Renels.
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  I thought Tim Patrick looked good. What's been your evaluation of the the legs
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  of Tim Patrick? How's he looking right now? You know he's moving well,
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  I guess we haven't seen you know, we haven't sort of seen the
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  all go plays yet where there's been a lot of catch and run, a
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  lot of underneath and that's that's pretty standard procedure when you're in this level of
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  an install in the offseason. So he will be a guy see in camp
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  because they need him in a lot of ways, you know, on the
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  field, in the offense, in the locker room. He brings a toughness
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  to them along with his play, of course, but they need him to
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  be around and be productive and be involved. All right, Well, Jeff
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  legwell breaking it down as only he can. Jeff, go practice the worm.
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  You got a lot of catching up to do to get to Andy's level,
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  right, now, but we appreciate it as always. Thank you for
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  joining us on a Tuesday. Or he has a lot of catching up to
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  get to me. Wow, well yeah it is. Next time you're in
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  studio, we're dancing it off, worm off, worm off, Leggy,
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  that's a good challenge. Guys like twenty years older than you are. Oh
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  now he's oh no, nobody can do anything. You're still nimble black like
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  you're some I know what you do in your free time, all right,
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  I know I can keep yourself limber lock like you're some wretched old, frozen
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  old man. You're not. I gotta put my walker aside. Yeah,
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  the work Yoda out there, and then Leggy, go have go, have
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  some warm milk and settle into the recliner. Okay, thanks man, watch
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  some matt Lock and have a quiet afternoon. That's what I'll do, the
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  great Jeff Legwald, everybody from ESPN, what is right there. I will
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  never do it Tuesday again. On a Tuesday. Tuesdays are a mistake.
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  You never desk Bradlets. You never want to come out this show on a Tuesday.