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Unpacking Clever: The Revolutionary App for Electric Vehicle Emergencies · Towing News Now

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the American Towing Recovery Institute podcast.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: We're going to go live right now at the Fayetteville, North Carolina for the American Towing Recovery Institute podcast.
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: This is breaking news west.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on right there in Fayetteville as we speak.
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  Speaker 2: DJ, I'm here in Fayetteville and I'm happy to report something that has been requested for quite some time from not only Towing Operators but Fire Personnel, body Shop, salad Jars all kinds of folks.
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: We have developed an app.
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  Speaker 2: We call it Clever, comprehensible List of Electric Vehicle Emergency Response.
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: This app has information on over 600 cars and over 100 trucks for electric, hybrid, hydrogen and natural gas vehicles.
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: Now, when I use the term hybrid, hybrid by definition is any electric excuse me, any vehicle that uses two forms of propulsion.
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: In this situation, when we say hybrid, we're speaking of gasoline engine along with an electric battery pack.
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  Speaker 2: You know I've been teaching about these vehicles for years and collecting information since the hybrid vehicles came out 15 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Kim Holcomb, who's on the program today and she'll introduce herself shortly the information we've collected has gathered up quite a bit.
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: We're going to put it out in the PDF document, which is how we were providing to students just a few months ago.
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: We got up to the pages, up to the point where we have 2,187 pages of information.
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: You know we stacked that up, dj.
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: That's like six of the old fashioned phone books.
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: I know you remember those phone books, don't you, dj?
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: I sure do.
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  Speaker 2: Six of them.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of information, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: It sure is a bunch Wes.
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  Speaker 2: And it makes it pretty difficult to use on the side of the road.
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  Speaker 2: So what we've done and I say we get to be a part of it, but a very small part Kim Holcomb has led up the team.
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  Speaker 2: My son, wesley Wilbur, has been involved as well as long as with Jake Green, and they'll introduce themselves in a moment, although Wes is not here today, but anyway, the other two will introduce themselves in a second.
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: But what we've gathered we've been working on this for months and months and months.
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  Speaker 2: There's information on over 600 cars and over 100 trucks, and again, that's electric, hybrid, hydrogen and natural gas.
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: We collected all the information we could find from the manufacturers on towed vehicles, information for firefighters, disabling procedures, a whole lot of stuff, and I'm going to let the inventors of the app talk about that in a moment.
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: We're very, very proud of this app.
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: Kim and Jake and Wesley.
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  Speaker 2: I can't thank everybody enough for all the work they put into this thing, and I'll be down.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to take let's just go ahead and have Kim and Jake introduce themselves and I'm going to talk a little bit about the app.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea.
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  Speaker 1: Our listeners should know Kim is the treasurer general manager of the corporation, a founding board member of the American Towing and Recovery Institute and now the new title app developer.
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: So, Kim, tell our listeners a little bit about yourself and your background.
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  Speaker 3: Well, as far as the app goes, it has been a adventure.
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: Never have touched the development of an app.
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  Speaker 3: Now I know how to download an app from the app store.
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  Speaker 3: I can do that all day, no question about that, but this is a whole different ball game.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, a lot of information has to figure out exactly what we wanted, what we needed, and then go in and out, like we know, all the codes and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: We taught ourselves that, myself and my son Wesley.
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  Speaker 3: So that's, we just started getting everything together.
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  Speaker 3: We just find a program that helped us guide us through that without code, so that we had a lot of guidance with that.
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  Speaker 3: But it is a total process of learning process.
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  Speaker 3: Excuse me along the way.
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  Speaker 3: So we have about 21 different categories that one can pull from.
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  Speaker 3: These each make model and year.
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  Speaker 2: What are some of the categories?
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  Speaker 2: Kim?
• 4:33
  Speaker 3: Well, some of the categories that we have, starting off the very basic.
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  Speaker 3: Whenever, even if you think you have the vehicle that you may want to actually see a picture of that vehicle to make sure it starts out with that year on making model, the vehicle image, and after that we have ways or how you would identify that particular making model as to whether make sure that is electrical hybrid.
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: Then we also have the warnings provided by the manufacturer, as well as where to find the battery, the hop up battery, on that vehicle.
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: Jake Green, co-developer of the app and the testing administrator.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us some of the other categories, Jake.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, we have a mobilization that is basically telling how to turn the car off or how to tell that it's running, especially since a lot of the hybrid electric vehicles you can't hear them running.
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: Jake, just real quick.
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  Speaker 2: That is a super important point.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure with any of these vehicles that's one of the most dangerous things.
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: Is they're running in their silent?
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I just wanted to echo that point because that is so important.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Next we have disabled direct, which, just by the way it sounds, it's not really clear on what it is, but it is basically instructions on how to disable the high voltage system, so it's usually step-by-step.
• 6:12
  Speaker 4: It's telling you how to cut the 12-volt battery, basically cutting the power, so you don't have to worry about getting electrocuted.
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  Speaker 4: We've got stored energy that tells you the different high voltage components that are installed on the vehicle, that I'll tell things about the battery.
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  Speaker 4: Also, for hybrid vehicles that have gasoline, it'll also tell you where the gas line is.
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  Speaker 4: So the things you can be aware of.
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  Speaker 4: We also have information on discharging the battery, and that's going to be different from the disabled direct, because with discharging, that is explaining how you get the electricity out of the battery.
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  Speaker 4: So with disabled direct, we're cutting the battery, so things aren't still connected to it.
• 6:59
  Speaker 2: But hang on a second, jake.
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  Speaker 2: That's real important right there.
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: That is good.
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  Speaker 2: One of them is for that strength to deal with the strength of energy, to solve the problem of strength and energy.
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  Speaker 2: So most of the manufacturers give answer to that question, or is that sporadic?
• 7:22
  Speaker 4: I would say most of them do, some people don't, but a lot of them do.
• 7:26
  Speaker 4: And with that discharging the battery, a lot of times you have to soak it in water.
• 7:33
  Speaker 4: So there's instructions on how long you have to leave the vehicle submerged in water and what kind of water to use.
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: That is one thing I want to point out.
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: First of all, excellent information, jake, excellent.
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: One of the things I do want to point out to the listeners is this is all the factory information that we've been able to acquire.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: Like I say, that equals 2,187 pages if we printed it out.
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  Speaker 2: Although I say that number, that number is changing all the time.
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: Just yet, you know, if the listeners noticed I said, the about 100 trucks and just over 600 automobiles different year make model listings.
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: Part of the reason for that is it's changing all the time.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: We have these two staff members that are basically working on this full time.
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: We hope to bring somebody else on board as well, but we're constantly researching and the stuff is changing, etc.
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: And some of the manufacturers don't answer all the questions, so to speak.
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: We're working right now, as we're kicking this whole app off and boy, this is a better project.
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: We worked all summer on it.
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: But one of the projects we're doing is to improve relationships with different manufacturers, trying to get more information, and we're making leaks and bounds there in a very short time.
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: So this is an ongoing process and I'm sorry to interrupt you, jake, because you're on a roll there, and I just wanted to point that out to our listeners that this is not a one-time thing with us.
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: This is an ongoing process.
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  Speaker 2: Now both you got both Tim and Jake.
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  Speaker 2: Both are giving us some great information, dj, aren't they?
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: They sure are, and it's called Clever.
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  Speaker 1: So this is very clever and much I need is great.
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: So what we need to do is we're up against it for a break, so we need to take a short commercial break.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: Ask our listeners to hang around and we'll be right back with a lot more details about Clever and two great guests today.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: We'll be right back with you.
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  Speaker 1: You have been listening to the American Towing Recovery Institute podcast special edition.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: This is a special edition of Wes Wilburn, dj Harrington and the new app called Clever.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: Now, just before our break, jake was kind of talk about this immersion in the water and so forth.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: This, jake, would be very interesting, not just the towing, but also the body chops, recyclers.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: So down the road, how many other people are interested in an app like this?
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  Speaker 4: This app would be useful for firefighters towing, like he said, people working at craft yards, any kind of storage facility for these vehicles, any kind of first second responders that would arrive on scene.
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: Actually, this would also be useful to any kind of medical personnel that might have to be near a wreck.
• 11:31
  Speaker 4: Maybe some of these potential warnings and risks Bodychaps, versions, everything.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: Everybody in the repair industry really needs to collaborate.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: This is really really earth shaking news.
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  Speaker 2: The folks with the business of parking automobiles too, parking lots and store thousands of cars.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: Having some of this information and looking at some of the extra information, part of the app is all kinds of bonus articles and stuff and little educational segments that we're preparing and working on constantly to educate the first, as Jake said, first and second responders, firefighters.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: In particular, cameras have been part of the attention.
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  Speaker 2: What are some of the information you folks have gathered for them?
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's three specific, really four specific areas that they would be interested in Anytime they get there, which you know, if this is a wreck of any type where there are accidents involved, then they would need to know how to obtain access to them, and that would include anything from seat belts, airbags, and then, of course, cutting them out of that.
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: So with that, the second category that would be interested for them, or very useful, is called cut zone, and that's a diagram that basically tells them where they could cut on the frame and then also in case of fire.
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: Obviously it just suggestions from the manufacturer on extinguishing fire and also for the disabled, direct or discharge that we have, or discharge direct I think I might have reported that incorrectly, but that also may have been the importance for fire rescue personnel.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the fire direct yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that's good.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of information that you all collected and, again, what we've done is and I say as a team with Kim is taking the lead on this definitely is collecting all the information we could find from all the different manufacturers and, where they didn't answer a question or didn't provide the information, we're starting the process now of asking for information as we kick this app off.
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  Speaker 2: What are some of the other features of the app?
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  Speaker 2: And we've talked about fire and rescue and different people that would use this, one of the main groups that we believe we use this information where we started the whole project from, as a telling industry.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, definitely Tell us about that, jim.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: Well, for that, that is actually I don't want to say our main focus, focus for information, but it has a great deal of information for them.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: So for that, they actually can find on this app how the manufacturer of that vehicle suggests for them towing that model.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: There's also listing point where the vehicle can be lifted so that they might not engage with the battery or whatnot, because the batteries are okay underneath the car, obviously Securing the vehicle, which obviously is on a flatbed, but there are suggestions for that which most might know that.
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  Speaker 3: But it does have some information that they do.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, kim, there was a reason why the towing operator didn't have any of this type of information and they had it loaded a Ford Mustang on a carrier deck and they didn't understand.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: The battery was the floorboard of the car and they put too many J-hooks in what they thought were slides for the hooks on the unibody of the automobile.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: In fact they were not and they were part of the battery and it was.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: The conversation is that there were $20,000 to replace the battery in that automobile from towing damage show.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: That's one of the things the information you all collected helps the towing operator is telling them where, what are hook points and what are not hook points.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: One other thing I want to back up to.
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  Speaker 2: You talked about with the firefighter rescue situation.
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  Speaker 2: Those cut zones show y'all.
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  Speaker 2: They show the people where to cut, how to avoid the high voltage systems, etc.
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  Speaker 2: But also where they're really strong.
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  Speaker 2: That I think it's the high strength boron steel that they talk about in the rescue world, where that is and how to avoid that.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: There's some more of the information that you all collected.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Two things I want to talk about real quick.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Sure, there's some people listening that say they can collect all this information themselves, and they absolutely can.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Like I said, over 15 years I collected over 2,000 pages with the help of the organization collecting it.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Another thing is that we collected this information with digs.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes, when you go to some of these people's websites, you're digging through ads, the fat and the other to find the bit of information you need.
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  Speaker 2: That's one of the advantages of the app.
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  Speaker 2: We found the information for all these different model vehicles and we have you provided them the whole manual and then broken it up into bits and pieces to make the exact information they're looking for pops right up in one of your categories.
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  Speaker 2: Would that be a correct summary?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: That is correct.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Tell us about that whole, the whole manual thing.
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  Speaker 3: I'll mention that, but I want to take notes real quick on that.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: People are listening.
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  Speaker 3: They may say well, I don't ever use my phone and I don't use the app store and all that as much, but I may use that store on it.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: This version of the app is also available to be seen or used on iPads and then also a computer, so they can be used on both ways.
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  Speaker 3: We're mostly thinking about people being on the five-buck highway, so you don't have a laptop maybe in front of the computer all the time.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, good point.
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  Speaker 2: That's a real good point.
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  Speaker 3: So on to the manual Each vehicle and model and year.
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  Speaker 3: They do provide a manual, or what they refer to as emergency response guide, in that four emergency personnel.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't show you how to operate the car, so that is just a manual by itself.
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  Speaker 3: That is attached to each section as a PDF so they can be downloaded as well as looking at each section individually.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: And there's even more information that we may not have put in that category, but we pulled what was most important to us and what we thought would be most useful so that everything is all together at one section left for that car.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: That's part of the beauty of the app, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Where you just made all this information able to get to so quick that.
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  Speaker 2: What a great job you've done with everything.
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  Speaker 2: Sincerely.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's definitely what we wanted to do.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Let's do that part of it, so you made it quick and easy with the different categories and we'll talk to some of the categories.
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  Speaker 2: Are there more of the categories that we can just give a brief overview of.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a few more, particularly for Towing.
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  Speaker 3: I think I mentioned securing the vehicle idea, because that's when you mentioned about the Mustang, the driver of that, the operator of that, the Mustang.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Also, in case of a submersion, obviously that would be something.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I see pictures all the time on Facebook of people removing vehicles from the water.
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  Speaker 3: This just tells you that and I'll tell you something really quick.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that you might get electrocuted, but it actually says you will not, so I'll put that in there real quick.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: And then the four categories are the shifting vehicle to neutral, or what I've seen it being referred to as the towing mode, because when a battery is disabled, a it's a quadruple battery when it's disabled, go ahead, sorry.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Not have a neutral option because it's no engine.
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  Speaker 3: So this will show you instructions on how to do that In order to move the vehicle.
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  Speaker 3: We'll have the charge rolling.
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  Speaker 2: So let me just help you, look at no transmission, just for our friends, listeners that are secular.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Because it does not have a transmission and it's a mode or not an engine.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Then we also have storing vehicle and suggestions for storing.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: So tollers and repair body shop if they have it, you know what not on how to store, and obviously we know it's not right beside the building, so all that information is included in that.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: There's also a dealer information.
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  Speaker 3: They request that when a vehicle is brought to a shop.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I guess they would like to be contacted about that.
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  Speaker 3: There's some information then also how to disable or get recycled batteries or whatnot for those that need that.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: And then, lastly, on that area, we actually have the curb weight, which actually is the weight of the vehicle when it's empty, which could be useful for flat bed size or whatnot.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Also handy when they're recovering them.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: But keep on your own roll cam.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: That's awesome and the last area would be what we call the pictogram, and it's just the legend of what the different pictures or icons mean that they show throughout the guide.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: So you may see different ones than just emergency, which ones are well known?
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Most of us know on some of them, but there's a lot of different icon.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And we're working on a general knowledge category.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: That's going to be a little side category with interesting information that we found and some of the other future plans we've got coming up, or maybe before we talk with the teachers.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Anything else.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Easy, jake or Kim, you want to share about the app and its current state as we release it?
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Right now.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I think we pretty much field you in what we have, where it's at right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I mean really the main important thing is just to realize we have all this important information in a format that's going to be really easy to access on the side of the road.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: So if you're looking to cut some of the vehicles, chances are you're going to be in a little bit of a hurry.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: So to be able to access that specific information without having to scroll through 30 or 50 pages of a manual, you're going to be able to go right to it and you're going to get the information that you need right then.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: So I think it's really a lot about the convenience to be able to access it when you need it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Well said, well said.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: We're going to take a quick break.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: We'll ask you guys to hang around and get a few comments making the closing.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: But tight with us listeners, we'll be right back.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, listeners, thank you for listening to the American Towing Recovery Institute Podcast.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: This is a special edition talking about the brand new app, fall Clever, which all of us really need to participate.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: So remember, if you like another industry expert like this and Wes can have them on the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Just dial 706-409-5603 and we'll get them on the podcast to improve our industry.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: All right, wes tell our listeners a little bit about how they can get involved in this brand new app, fall Clever.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple different ways.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: One of them is go to the website that we have set up specifically for this, which is ev-clevercom.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: That's ev-clevercom.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Clevers are comprehensive lists of electric vehicle marts response.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Of course, I'm talking about it all throughout the program.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit about where they can get it and how they can get it in a minute, but before we do that, let's go.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Kim and Jake tell us a little bit about the future plans.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: What are some of our future plans for this?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Besides updating constantly, besides, we're also going to be filling in the holes what are some of the other future plans we have for this app?
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Well, we are also going to have a section available that will be not just for the towers and the emergency personnel, but also this is app can be used for people that drive an EV, an electric vehicle because we will have charging stations that they will be able to pop in their area and it will ship to them where one is close to them.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: So that is something that's coming up.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Also, we're going to have a new section that will have a bunch of articles, videos and things like that that will be useful for anyone that may want to keep up to date on all the things that they can do with electric vehicles.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: So to echo with that, along with that part of that, what she just mentioned will be myself writing for myself.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Ron Moore, people like that.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Ron Moore is considered one of the leading experts in the world on extra-cage and he wrote the University of extra-cage on firehouse magazine for 28 years.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Without missing an article that's outstanding.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Very difficult to do so.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Ron is known around the world.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: He's a big part of our EV-shaking training that we do when we do the hands-on classes.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: He's part of this app with us and a great guy Ron's written a lot of stuff, produced a lot of stuff.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: We're going to make some of that training available.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Me and Ron are also going to continue to do the live hands-on classes that we do around the country.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: We'll be in Washington, north Carolina, in the beginning of November November 11th, december 12th for a two-day hands-on class, firefighter-tower cross-training, working with electric vehicles and other rescue scenarios.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: So we plan on sorry I got a little off base there, but some of the writing from him will be part of that extra news information that we're going to provide, and we are going to be doing webinars as well, either for free or very low cost.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: We're working out the details of that right now, so we'll be letting people know about that.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Now people have asked how much is all this app going to cost?
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: How much is it?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: We'll be learning?
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: What is the situation with it?
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Here's where we are today with it, trying to bring it out.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: In addition to the industry and finances, they have two people working full time updating it, et cetera.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: The app is gonna be available starting out at 9.99 per month or 59.99 per year, 12 months subscription paid at one time.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Now, if you remember the American Tone Recovery Institute and up to date with your membership, you've already been sent an email with a code for a 50% discount.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: If, for some reason, you didn't receive that code and your members up to date, just give us a call.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: We'll get all that straight with it.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: We just did send out an email for a 50% code for all our members.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, and I'm gonna give them another website I forgot to give them.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Go ahead and give them the first website, please.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Website would be ev-clevercom.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: It's just devoted to this app and on that there's just three different categories or headers across the top.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: If you click on the Ev Rescue and Recovery app, it takes you to a page that has two different links to download One if you have an Apple or iPhone and the other is if you have an Android or Google phone.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: You just click on it and that's how you access it, and then you definitely go straight to our website and it'll just take you directly to a T-Foc on the appropriate one.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: New Duke folks listening to give it a try.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: We know it's not perfect today.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: We're working on it every day but at least somebody's doing something to get the information together.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Kim Wesley, Jacob, I can't thank y'all enough for the effort you put in it.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: They've been working on it day and night, literally, and I'm still keeping everything else going around here, so I appreciate it more than you know.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: We thank our listeners, this web.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I can't believe how this thing's growing and growing and growing.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: This podcast is growing.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: We definitely appreciate you folks listening to us, subscribing, hitting that like button, et cetera.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I wanna thank everybody for listening.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I wanna thank the team for working so hard on the staff.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I want everybody to be safe out there and we'll see you soon.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Be safe, thank you.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Enjoy your time.