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- 0:08Speaker 1: What's the biggest number that you can really hold in
- 0:12Speaker 1: your mind. Let's do a little mental exercise. Start with
- 0:15Speaker 1: a number like five. Surely you can imagine like five,
- 0:18Speaker 1: I don't know, bananas floating in your mind, right, each
- 0:22Speaker 1: one crisp and the unique and different. It's a simple,
- 0:25Speaker 1: small number that's easy to visualize, all right, But can
- 0:28Speaker 1: you do ten? Can you keep ten individual bananas in
- 0:31Speaker 1: your head? Can you do a hundred? Now it starts
- 0:34Speaker 1: to get challenging, right, So imagine a thousand, a hundred thousand.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Can you imagine a billion individual bananas, all unique, floating
- 0:42Speaker 1: in your mind? Unless you're some sort of crazy genius,
- 0:45Speaker 1: probably not. But the universe throws these numbers at us
- 0:49Speaker 1: all the time, right, you hear millions, billions, trillions, numbers
- 0:53Speaker 1: that frankly sound made up. What do these numbers mean?
- 0:56Speaker 1: Can we really grasp them? Hi? I'm Daniel. I'm a
- 1:15Speaker 1: particle physicist and the co author of the book We
- 1:18Speaker 1: Have No Idea, A Guide to the Unknown Universe. My
- 1:21Speaker 1: co author in that book, Jorge cham, a cartoonist, is
- 1:25Speaker 1: not here today on the podcast, so welcome to the podcast.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Daniel and Jorge explain the universe, but without Jorge, who
- 1:33Speaker 1: has to be away. This week there's a production of
- 1:35Speaker 1: I Heart Media, a podcast in which we zoom all
- 1:38Speaker 1: around the universe trying to understand all the crazy, mind
- 1:42Speaker 1: blowing things that the universe has to offer. And the
- 1:45Speaker 1: universe is filled with things that are difficult to understand
- 1:48Speaker 1: but fun to struggle with. And one of those things
- 1:51Speaker 1: is numbers. Because the universe is vast, there are so
- 1:56Speaker 1: many things out there. They're huge numbers of stuff to
- 1:59Speaker 1: think about, to look at, to try to understand. I mean,
- 2:03Speaker 1: if you talk about just our galaxy, the Milky Way,
- 2:05Speaker 1: there are a hundred billion stars in the universe, how
- 2:09Speaker 1: do you comprehend that number? How do you know what
- 2:11Speaker 1: that number really means? Frankly, anything bigger than a thousand
- 2:16Speaker 1: is to meet infinity? Right, you talk about a million
- 2:18Speaker 1: dollars versus ten million dollars, What difference does that really
- 2:21Speaker 1: make to me? A billion dollars a trillion dollars. I
- 2:24Speaker 1: can never be an economist because to me, all these
- 2:26Speaker 1: numbers are ungraspable. They're hard to really put my head around,
- 2:31Speaker 1: to really wrap my fingers around and manipulating my mind.
- 2:34Speaker 1: I mean, sure, I can do the math with them
- 2:35Speaker 1: on paper, but I can't visualize them, and as a
- 2:38Speaker 1: visual thinker, it's difficult for me to understand what these
- 2:41Speaker 1: things mean. But yet the universe throws these numbers at us, right,
- 2:45Speaker 1: And you try to do science at this scale particle physics.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Every baseball is filled with ten to the twenty three
- 2:52Speaker 1: times some number of atoms. Right, It's hard to imagine.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Every time you're holding a banana or a baseball in
- 2:57Speaker 1: your hand, you're interacting with a ridiculously huge number of particles.
- 3:02Speaker 1: And so that's what we want to focus on today.
- 3:05Speaker 1: That's the topic of today's podcast, and most specifically today,
- 3:08Speaker 1: we're asking the question how many stars are there in
- 3:16Speaker 1: this sky? And of course there are a huge number
- 3:19Speaker 1: of stars out there in the Milky Way, right. A
- 3:20Speaker 1: hundred billion stars in the Milky Way times two trillion
- 3:24Speaker 1: galaxies makes a number that's like, really hard to even understand.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Two times ten to the twenty three stars in the
- 3:31Speaker 1: observable universe. I don't even know the name or that number, right,
- 3:35Speaker 1: somebody's have to make up the new prefix, the new
- 3:38Speaker 1: scientific phrase for that number, because it's so big that
- 3:41Speaker 1: all you can do is write it in scientific notation, right,
- 3:44Speaker 1: it's not even a number anybody ever actually sits down
- 3:46Speaker 1: and writes out with all those zeros, you know, we
- 3:49Speaker 1: need like a new way to write numbers, just to
- 3:51Speaker 1: talk about this kind of number, a number in this category.
- 3:56Speaker 1: And so that's a huge number, right, two times ten
- 3:58Speaker 1: of the twenty three. But there are lots of big
- 4:00Speaker 1: numbers in science, not just in physics. I mean, if
- 4:04Speaker 1: somebody asked you, what are there more of stars in
- 4:07Speaker 1: the Milky Way or trees on Earth? You might think, well,
- 4:10Speaker 1: of course there are more stars in the Milky Way.
- 4:12Speaker 1: That's a huge, ridiculous number compared to this tiny little
- 4:16Speaker 1: planet we find ourselves on, right, But not true. It
- 4:19Speaker 1: turns out that there are three trillion trees on Earth,
- 4:24Speaker 1: three trillion, which is more than the hundred billion stars
- 4:28Speaker 1: in the Milky Way. Right, So there are numbers all
- 4:31Speaker 1: over the place, not just in physics, but also in biology. Here,
- 4:34Speaker 1: just on this one planet, there are more of those
- 4:36Speaker 1: trees than all the stars in our galaxy. And if
- 4:40Speaker 1: you look inside our body, there are forty trillion cells
- 4:44Speaker 1: that make up a human body. Every single one of
- 4:46Speaker 1: you walking around, squishing and breathing and living, has a
- 4:50Speaker 1: huge number of these things all cooperating to make you
- 4:53Speaker 1: who you are. So there are more cells in the
- 4:55Speaker 1: body than trees on Earth, and more trees on Earth
- 4:59Speaker 1: than ours in the galaxy. And you can keep going.
- 5:02Speaker 1: The number of grains of sand on all the beaches
- 5:06Speaker 1: and all the deserts on the Earth is an even
- 5:07Speaker 1: bigger number. That's four times ten to the nineteen. So
- 5:12Speaker 1: for every tree on Earth, for every cell in the body,
- 5:16Speaker 1: there are millions of grains of sand. And this is
- 5:19Speaker 1: what I talk about not being able to grasp a number.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Like you walk on a beach. You see all that sand,
- 5:25Speaker 1: but you can't count it. If somebody drops a handful
- 5:28Speaker 1: of objects on the sand, you can say, oh, look,
- 5:29Speaker 1: there's your car, keys and your wallet and your phone.
- 5:32Speaker 1: There are three things there, right, that makes sense. You
- 5:34Speaker 1: can look at three things and count them instantly. You
- 5:36Speaker 1: don't actually have to count. You just sort of recognize
- 5:39Speaker 1: the numeracy there. You don't have to actually individually count.
- 5:43Speaker 1: But if you wanted to count the number of grains
- 5:45Speaker 1: of sand on the beach under your feet, you'd have
- 5:47Speaker 1: to actually count them. I mean, the information is there,
- 5:50Speaker 1: it's coming into your eyes. Even just the number of
- 5:53Speaker 1: grains that you see the number of grains that are
- 5:55Speaker 1: visible to your eyes when you're looking at the beach.
- 5:59Speaker 1: That imprinciple, you have that information coming into your eyeballs.
- 6:02Speaker 1: But of course nobody can count. That it's too big
- 6:05Speaker 1: a number to grasp. And so that's what fascinates me,
- 6:08Speaker 1: that that there are these numbers out there, that they're everywhere,
- 6:11Speaker 1: that they're all around us, and so you might think, well,
- 6:13Speaker 1: that's certainly a big number. Two times ten of the
- 6:15Speaker 1: nineteen is a huge number of grains of sand. It's
- 6:18Speaker 1: hard to imagine. It also means that there are more
- 6:20Speaker 1: grains of sand than stars in the galaxy, which means
- 6:24Speaker 1: that for every star out there, all those individual balls
- 6:27Speaker 1: of plasma, there are more than a million grains of
- 6:30Speaker 1: sand on Earth. It's hard to really grasp these ratios.
- 6:33Speaker 1: But of course I'm married to a biologist, and the
- 6:36Speaker 1: king of big numbers turns out to not be physics.
- 6:39Speaker 1: The king of big numbers is biology, and specifically microbes.
- 6:44Speaker 1: And of course I'm married to a microbiologist. So she
- 6:46Speaker 1: reminded me that there are ten to the thirty one
- 6:49Speaker 1: pages in the biome. That means there are ten to
- 6:53Speaker 1: the thirty one little viruses out there attacking bacteria. And
- 6:56Speaker 1: that's a ridiculous number. That's bigger than all the stars
- 7:00Speaker 1: in the observable universe. That was ten to the twenty three.
- 7:03Speaker 1: So for every star in every single one of those galaxies,
- 7:07Speaker 1: there are like a billion viruses here on Earth. To
- 7:11Speaker 1: count all the stars in our galaxy and all the
- 7:13Speaker 1: stars and other galaxies is just a ridiculous number. And
- 7:17Speaker 1: for each of those there's a billion, which already is
- 7:20Speaker 1: hard to grasp. A billion viruses here on Earth. So
- 7:24Speaker 1: science is filled with these big numbers. But I was
- 7:27Speaker 1: interested in something more specific. You take a drive out
- 7:30Speaker 1: to the desert, you look up at the night sky,
- 7:32Speaker 1: and you're confronted with enormity. You look up at the
- 7:35Speaker 1: night sky, you see all these twinkling lights, You see
- 7:38Speaker 1: all these stars, and you wonder, wow, how many are there?
- 7:42Speaker 1: Certainly seems like a lot, right. We're used to science
- 7:45Speaker 1: and physics having big numbers in it. We know the
- 7:48Speaker 1: universe has vast and so we imagine we can see
- 7:51Speaker 1: a lot of stars. Turns out we might not be
- 7:54Speaker 1: able to see that many. So I was curious what
- 7:56Speaker 1: people knew about this, what people thought about the number
- 7:59Speaker 1: of stars in the night sky. So I walked around
- 8:02Speaker 1: the campus if you see Irvine, and I asked, folks,
- 8:04Speaker 1: how many stars can you see in the night sky
- 8:07Speaker 1: on a beautiful, crystal clear night, right, no pollution, no clouds, um,
- 8:12Speaker 1: no moon, no light from Los Angeles? How many stars
- 8:15Speaker 1: can you see in the sky? But first think for yourself,
- 8:19Speaker 1: if you've been out on a nice clear night, how
- 8:21Speaker 1: many stars do you think you can see in the
- 8:23Speaker 1: night sky. Here's what people had to say. Millions. Okay,
- 8:28Speaker 1: I know there is many more in the universe. I
- 8:30Speaker 1: even know how many there are in the universe. Tend
- 8:34Speaker 1: to the five between a billion and a trillion roughly,
- 8:39Speaker 1: Let's see. I would say at least Avocata's number, like
- 8:43Speaker 1: tend toy three. I don't know I would I would
- 8:46Speaker 1: guess less than that, maybe like time stend of the
- 8:50Speaker 1: ten power, but I don't know. I'm gonna say tend
- 8:53Speaker 1: to the twenty like a million guests somewhere in the billions.
- 8:56Speaker 1: But I have no idea. All right, So you hear
- 8:59Speaker 1: a lot of big number is people definitely feel like
- 9:02Speaker 1: it's got to be a big number because they know
- 9:04Speaker 1: there are a lot of stars out there and they're right,
- 9:06Speaker 1: there are a lot of stars out there in the sky.
- 9:08Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily mean that you can see all of those, right,
- 9:12Speaker 1: or even that you can see very many, but people
- 9:15Speaker 1: wanted to say a big number. You hear millions and
- 9:17Speaker 1: billions and ten to the ten, and so people want
- 9:20Speaker 1: we're prepared to be saying a big number. And maybe
- 9:23Speaker 1: it's a bit of a gotcha question because a lot
- 9:25Speaker 1: of times you'll be asked a question about science and
- 9:27Speaker 1: the answer is supposed to impress you, right, the answer
- 9:30Speaker 1: is supposed to be so much bigger than you even imagined.
- 9:33Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe people were rounding up a
- 9:35Speaker 1: little bit, trying to make sure they hit an impressive number.
- 9:38Speaker 1: We'll break it down and talk about how many stars
- 9:41Speaker 1: you can actually see in the night sky, but first
- 9:44Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. Alright, So we're talking about
- 9:59Speaker 1: how any stars you can see in the night sky. Now,
- 10:03Speaker 1: first let's start out with how many stars there are. Right,
- 10:05Speaker 1: we talked about this quickly already, But in the observable universe,
- 10:09Speaker 1: there are ten to the twenty three stars out there,
- 10:12Speaker 1: basically a trillion times a hundred billion. It's a huge
- 10:15Speaker 1: number of stars. However, most of the stars are really
- 10:19Speaker 1: really far away. So let's talk about the light from
- 10:21Speaker 1: the star. The stars this huge burning ball of plasma
- 10:24Speaker 1: and it's shooting out a lot of light. Our Sun,
- 10:26Speaker 1: for example, is not a particularly bright star, but already
- 10:30Speaker 1: it's pretty bright. You know, it's shooting out a huge
- 10:32Speaker 1: number of photons. If you look up at the Sun,
- 10:35Speaker 1: please don't, then you'll burn your eyeballs. Right, and we're
- 10:38Speaker 1: not even that close to it. So the Sun is
- 10:40Speaker 1: pretty bright, which means the stars out there must be
- 10:42Speaker 1: pretty bright. The problem is, in order to see something,
- 10:46Speaker 1: it has to be either pretty close or super duper bright,
- 10:50Speaker 1: because the brightness of an object falls really quickly with distance.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Imagine all the photons leaving the Sun, right, there's a
- 10:59Speaker 1: huge number of them. They're screaming out into space, ready
- 11:03Speaker 1: to go on some cosmic journey and land on some
- 11:05Speaker 1: alien eyeballs. Right, So all these photons are leaving the Sun.
- 11:09Speaker 1: But they're leaving the Sun and there's a fixed number
- 11:11Speaker 1: seven gajillion, I don't know, some certain number of photons
- 11:13Speaker 1: are leaving the Sun. So if you're really close to
- 11:16Speaker 1: the Sun, then your eyeball is going to get hit
- 11:18Speaker 1: with a lot of those photons. But now take a
- 11:20Speaker 1: step away, take go a thousand kilometers further, you have
- 11:23Speaker 1: the same number of photons. Right, it's not adding any
- 11:26Speaker 1: more photons. I mean there's another wave of photons coming
- 11:29Speaker 1: along behind it, but in that one blast of light
- 11:32Speaker 1: that we're talking about, you don't get any fresh photons.
- 11:36Speaker 1: These same photons continue out, but now they cover a
- 11:39Speaker 1: larger area. That cover a sphere that has a larger radius.
- 11:43Speaker 1: And the area of a sphere grows with the radius squared,
- 11:47Speaker 1: and so as the radius of that sphere that the
- 11:49Speaker 1: photons are trying to illuminate grows, the number of photons
- 11:54Speaker 1: per area drops like one over distance squared one over
- 11:58Speaker 1: radius squared. So if you're twice as far from the star,
- 12:02Speaker 1: the brightness is one fourth. If you're four times the
- 12:05Speaker 1: distance from the star, then the brightness is one And
- 12:09Speaker 1: that doesn't seem like a big effect for small numbers,
- 12:11Speaker 1: but it adds to pretty quickly. If you're a thousand
- 12:14Speaker 1: times further away, then the brightness goes down by a million,
- 12:17Speaker 1: And those are pretty big numbers, and so they can
- 12:20Speaker 1: impact even really bright stuff like stars. So what that
- 12:23Speaker 1: means is that for us to see a star. Right,
- 12:26Speaker 1: we have to be able to see a certain number
- 12:28Speaker 1: of photons. When you look up at the night sky,
- 12:30Speaker 1: you turn your eyes to the sky. You have to
- 12:33Speaker 1: get photons from that star. And already that's a fascinating journey.
- 12:37Speaker 1: You know, those photons were created in the heat of
- 12:40Speaker 1: that cosmic fusion billions of miles away and have flown
- 12:44Speaker 1: through space for thousands or millions or billions of years
- 12:47Speaker 1: before they hit your eyeball. They've lived all that time,
- 12:50Speaker 1: and then they're just sucked up by your eyeball and
- 12:53Speaker 1: are no more. Right, you just take that little bit
- 12:55Speaker 1: of energy. Anyway, for you to see a star in
- 12:58Speaker 1: the sky means that a photon is left that star
- 13:01Speaker 1: and arrived at your eyeball. And your eyeballs are pretty good, right,
- 13:04Speaker 1: they're pretty good detectors. But you need to see a
- 13:06Speaker 1: few photons in order to register a star. So there's
- 13:10Speaker 1: a threshold. All the stars are out there, but in
- 13:13Speaker 1: order for you to see them with your eye, in
- 13:14Speaker 1: order for you to say, hey, I see a star,
- 13:16Speaker 1: you have to get a certain number of photons, and
- 13:19Speaker 1: so that cuts down on the number of stars that
- 13:22Speaker 1: are visible to the naked eye by a huge fraction.
- 13:25Speaker 1: If they're really far away, then that have to be
- 13:27Speaker 1: super duper bright for you to still get enough photons, right,
- 13:31Speaker 1: because remember the density of photons that are hitting your
- 13:34Speaker 1: eye from that star falls with a distance squared, So
- 13:37Speaker 1: if it's super far away, then has to be ridiculously bright,
- 13:40Speaker 1: which is why it's so amazing sometimes when we see
- 13:43Speaker 1: things like quasars, which we know are really far away
- 13:46Speaker 1: and yet still seem bright, which means at their source
- 13:49Speaker 1: they're riduculously bright, or if they're closer they don't have
- 13:52Speaker 1: to be quite as bright. But being closer is a
- 13:54Speaker 1: really small fraction of the universe. So that's cut to
- 13:58Speaker 1: the chase. In the end, you can see the only
- 14:00Speaker 1: between five to ten thousand stars in the night sky
- 14:04Speaker 1: with the human eye, and of course you can't see
- 14:07Speaker 1: the entire night sky from earth right, you can at
- 14:10Speaker 1: best see half of it, So cut that number in half.
- 14:13Speaker 1: We're talking just a few thousand stars in the night
- 14:17Speaker 1: sky that you can see with the naked eye. And
- 14:20Speaker 1: you might imagine, no, I'm sure I could see many,
- 14:22Speaker 1: many more, right, Well, it might be that you've just
- 14:24Speaker 1: seen these pictures either from Hubble, which we'll talk about
- 14:27Speaker 1: in a minute, or from long exposure cameras which accumulate
- 14:30Speaker 1: a lot of photons over time, so you can see
- 14:33Speaker 1: things that are dimmer um. People have the impression, I think,
- 14:36Speaker 1: from those photographs or from astronomical pictures from space telescopes,
- 14:41Speaker 1: that there's a huge number of stars you can see
- 14:43Speaker 1: in the sky, but those are not, of course, using
- 14:46Speaker 1: the naked eye. The naked eye, you have to get
- 14:48Speaker 1: a certain number of photons per second in order to
- 14:51Speaker 1: register the star, and so very few stars a tiny
- 14:55Speaker 1: fraction of stars in the universe satisfy the criterion of
- 14:58Speaker 1: either being close enough or being bright enough that you
- 15:02Speaker 1: get enough individual photons and your personal eyeball to see
- 15:06Speaker 1: those stars, and people often use as a sort of metric.
- 15:10Speaker 1: There's one particularly bright star in the sky. It's called Vega,
- 15:13Speaker 1: and the threshold for being able to see a star
- 15:16Speaker 1: using the naked eye for most humans is brightness of
- 15:19Speaker 1: about zero point to five per cent the brightness of Vega.
- 15:23Speaker 1: So anything brighter than that you can see. Anything dimmer
- 15:26Speaker 1: than that you just can't see with the naked eye.
- 15:28Speaker 1: You just don't get enough photons to even know it's there.
- 15:31Speaker 1: I mean, it's there, and it's sending photons into space,
- 15:35Speaker 1: but those photons are just not dense enough by the
- 15:37Speaker 1: time they get here for you to spot one. Right,
- 15:39Speaker 1: maybe you're standing between is like a photon over there
- 15:41Speaker 1: and a photon over there, and none of them hit
- 15:43Speaker 1: your eye, right, or maybe one of them hits your eye.
- 15:46Speaker 1: But you need a certain number of photons. You need
- 15:48Speaker 1: several photons for to really register something. Okay, but then
- 15:52Speaker 1: you can soup it up. Right, you can say, well,
- 15:54Speaker 1: I don't necessarily just need to use the naked eye.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Certainly you can see more. We have tell lescopes, and
- 16:00Speaker 1: that's exactly what telescopes are for. And even binoculars. Binoculars
- 16:04Speaker 1: and telescopes, they don't actually do much zooming. Mostly the
- 16:08Speaker 1: power of a telescope or binoculars is in gathering light.
- 16:13Speaker 1: In the front of a telescope, you have a large lens,
- 16:15Speaker 1: and that lens gathers more light than your eye, right,
- 16:18Speaker 1: it's bigger than your eye. And this is why bigger
- 16:22Speaker 1: telescopes are more powerful, because they gather more light and
- 16:24Speaker 1: they focus it so you have a larger area to
- 16:28Speaker 1: receive those photons, which means you're gonna get more photons,
- 16:31Speaker 1: which means you're more likely to see something. Imagine you
- 16:34Speaker 1: had a telescope the size of the Earth, right, you
- 16:37Speaker 1: would gather a huge number of photons per second from
- 16:40Speaker 1: some distant star compared to only the photons that fall
- 16:44Speaker 1: on the tiny little spot on Earth that is your eyeball.
- 16:47Speaker 1: So the power of a telescope or binoculars is frankly
- 16:51Speaker 1: just to gather more light so you can see dimmer things, right,
- 16:54Speaker 1: because it takes the light from a large area and
- 16:57Speaker 1: it puts it onto a small area. So it's like
- 17:00Speaker 1: multiplying the number of photons you're seeing from every source
- 17:03Speaker 1: by some factor, and that makes a really big difference
- 17:08Speaker 1: because it means that you can see sort of a
- 17:09Speaker 1: larger sphere away from the Earth and that spear right.
- 17:13Speaker 1: The radius of that sphere, the number of stars net
- 17:16Speaker 1: fear grows very quickly with the radius, and so if
- 17:19Speaker 1: you're multiplying the power of your eyeballs using a telescope,
- 17:23Speaker 1: you can actually see up to about three hundred thousand
- 17:26Speaker 1: stars in the sky. Right. You can go down to
- 17:29Speaker 1: compare to Vega again, you can you can go down
- 17:32Speaker 1: to a number of about zero point zero one percent
- 17:35Speaker 1: of Vega. Vega is a particularly bright star in the sky,
- 17:38Speaker 1: and you can see a lot more stars if you
- 17:41Speaker 1: just use a telescope or binoculars. It's a huge multiplication factor. Now,
- 17:45Speaker 1: another thing you can do, of course, is you can
- 17:47Speaker 1: just put your camera on right, and you can turn
- 17:50Speaker 1: it on, and you can leave it open for a while.
- 17:52Speaker 1: And if you just leave a camera fixed and looking
- 17:55Speaker 1: at the night sky, then you'll see these traces because
- 17:58Speaker 1: stars move right there with its hours don't move, but
- 18:00Speaker 1: the earth moves right the earth rotates relative to the
- 18:03Speaker 1: star field. And so you take a picture and you
- 18:06Speaker 1: just leave your camera fixed, and you'll notice the stars
- 18:09Speaker 1: making this circular trail across the film. And so you
- 18:13Speaker 1: see like this photon hit and then that photon hit,
- 18:15Speaker 1: and then that photon hit. Each of those is a photon.
- 18:18Speaker 1: It's taken its journey across the cosmos from the star
- 18:22Speaker 1: to your film, from the star to your eyeballs. And
- 18:26Speaker 1: so the power of the photography there is to again
- 18:28Speaker 1: accumulate photons over time. And if you'd like to see
- 18:32Speaker 1: a really crisp picture of the night sky, what you
- 18:34Speaker 1: need to do is get a camera that moves with
- 18:37Speaker 1: the stars right, that tracks the stars. Usually finds one
- 18:40Speaker 1: guide star. It's got a little motor on it which
- 18:42Speaker 1: will turn the camera so that it captures photons from
- 18:46Speaker 1: the same star in the same place and sort of
- 18:48Speaker 1: adds them up. And that's how you can do this
- 18:50Speaker 1: long exposure photography that gives you the sense of seeing
- 18:53Speaker 1: something really deep in space, because that's exactly what you're doing.
- 18:57Speaker 1: The longer you look at the night sky, the more
- 18:59Speaker 1: you accumulate the those photons, the more you're seeing stuff
- 19:02Speaker 1: that's far away right where the photons are spread out
- 19:05Speaker 1: more by the time they get here, so it takes
- 19:07Speaker 1: longer to gather enough photons from them in order to
- 19:10Speaker 1: see them in your eye or to see them in
- 19:12Speaker 1: the camera. All right, but let's talk about what we
- 19:15Speaker 1: can do with crazy telescopes and how deep we can
- 19:18Speaker 1: see into the night sky using technology. But first let's
- 19:22Speaker 1: take another break. All right, So we're talking about how
- 19:37Speaker 1: many stars there are are in the sky and how
- 19:39Speaker 1: many of them we can see. Now, of course, we're
- 19:42Speaker 1: not limited to looking at the night sky with our eyeballs,
- 19:45Speaker 1: and we're not limited to looking at the night sky
- 19:47Speaker 1: with binoculars or dinky telescopes that we have in our backyard.
- 19:51Speaker 1: As a species. We have invested incredible technology which floats
- 19:55Speaker 1: out in space, so it's not even limited by the
- 19:57Speaker 1: resolution of the atmosphere. It floats in space and it
- 20:00Speaker 1: looks deep out into the universe to give us pictures.
- 20:03Speaker 1: And of course I'm talking about the Hubble space telescope
- 20:06Speaker 1: and a whole battery of other space telescopes which have
- 20:09Speaker 1: given us amazing insights into what's going on in the universe.
- 20:12Speaker 1: So how does that work, Well, it's the same story.
- 20:15Speaker 1: All you need to do to see deeper into the
- 20:17Speaker 1: universe is gather more light, and your options there are
- 20:20Speaker 1: make your telescope bigger, and so Hubble is huge, right
- 20:23Speaker 1: compared to your back backyard telescope. It's got a really
- 20:26Speaker 1: big light gathering lens that gives it a multiplication. But
- 20:31Speaker 1: Hubble also can point it stuff and you can just
- 20:33Speaker 1: stay pointed at it for a while, and so we
- 20:36Speaker 1: can gather enough light to see really distant objects. Imagine
- 20:41Speaker 1: some galaxy from very early in the universe. It's super
- 20:44Speaker 1: far away, right, it's billions and billions of light years,
- 20:46Speaker 1: say ten billion light years away. Then the intensity of
- 20:50Speaker 1: the light from that star here ten billion light years
- 20:53Speaker 1: away is a tiny factor compared to the intensity. If
- 20:58Speaker 1: you were like you know, one a like earth distance
- 21:01Speaker 1: from that star, something like one over ten billion squared.
- 21:06Speaker 1: In order to see that star, then you need to
- 21:09Speaker 1: gather photons from it, and there just aren't very many.
- 21:12Speaker 1: If you imagine a sphere centered at that star, and
- 21:14Speaker 1: the radius of that sphere is our distance from it,
- 21:17Speaker 1: we're sort of sitting out on a sphere that's that
- 21:20Speaker 1: distance from the star. Then all the light from that
- 21:23Speaker 1: star is spread out across this enormous sphere right that
- 21:26Speaker 1: radius is ten billion light years. Then the photons are
- 21:30Speaker 1: really dispersed, right, Not very many of them land in
- 21:33Speaker 1: any particular area. So what you have to do is
- 21:36Speaker 1: you have to wait a long time. You have to
- 21:37Speaker 1: point Hubble at it for a while and just gather light.
- 21:41Speaker 1: And this is why Hubble time is so valuable, because
- 21:43Speaker 1: if you point Hubble at any random speck of space,
- 21:46Speaker 1: the Hubble deep field, for example, is a tiny little
- 21:49Speaker 1: patch of space that they pointed the camera at for
- 21:51Speaker 1: a long time, long enough to gather light from super
- 21:54Speaker 1: distant galaxies. And of course the longer they look, the
- 21:58Speaker 1: more they see. Because the longer they look, the deeper
- 22:01Speaker 1: into space they can see, and there's really no limit, right,
- 22:04Speaker 1: Hubble can just point at something basically as long as
- 22:07Speaker 1: we want. And since the universe has a finite age,
- 22:10Speaker 1: is a maximum distance that anything can be that we
- 22:14Speaker 1: could see. And there's really no limit on the brightness
- 22:17Speaker 1: of something that we can see with Hubble, right, because
- 22:20Speaker 1: we could just keep gathering light and wait until eventually
- 22:23Speaker 1: photons hit us. But there is a limit. There is
- 22:25Speaker 1: a limit to what Hubble can see. And that's because
- 22:29Speaker 1: the universe is expanding. Things that are far away in
- 22:32Speaker 1: the universe are moving away from us, and that expansion
- 22:35Speaker 1: is accelerating. And all this means that that the light
- 22:38Speaker 1: from those objects, because it's moving away from us, the
- 22:41Speaker 1: wavelength of the light from those objects is shifted in color,
- 22:45Speaker 1: called this red shifting, and things that are further away
- 22:48Speaker 1: are moving away more quickly. So you can think about
- 22:51Speaker 1: the red shift as a sort of measure of distance.
- 22:54Speaker 1: And this is how astronomers talk about the distance to something.
- 22:57Speaker 1: They say red shift four, red shift five, or ever.
- 23:00Speaker 1: And this talks about how much the light is changed
- 23:03Speaker 1: in color from where when it was admitted to by
- 23:06Speaker 1: the time it gets here on Earth, and along the
- 23:08Speaker 1: way it gets shifted down into the red end of
- 23:11Speaker 1: the spectrum because things that are moving away from us
- 23:14Speaker 1: have their wavelength stretched. And Hubble of course has a
- 23:17Speaker 1: certain frequency of light that it can see. It can't
- 23:20Speaker 1: just see photons throughout the entire electromagnetic spectrum. It's got
- 23:24Speaker 1: a certain range of photons that can see because of
- 23:27Speaker 1: the you know, the material that the lens is made
- 23:29Speaker 1: out of, and the camera is sensitive. Right, There's no
- 23:32Speaker 1: device that is sensitive across the entire electromagnetic spectrum. So
- 23:36Speaker 1: there are some things that are so red shifted that
- 23:39Speaker 1: Hubble can't see them. They're basically invisible to Hubble. No
- 23:42Speaker 1: matter how long you point Hubble at these things, you
- 23:45Speaker 1: just will never see them because the light that's getting
- 23:48Speaker 1: here is at the wrong frequency. And that's why we
- 23:52Speaker 1: have other space telescopes, right. We have the Spitzer Infrared Telescope,
- 23:56Speaker 1: for example. It works in the infrared and specifically to
- 23:59Speaker 1: see things that are super duper red shifted, right, because
- 24:03Speaker 1: those are the things that are super duper far away. Now,
- 24:06Speaker 1: the furthest thing ever seen by Hubble is a galaxy
- 24:10Speaker 1: at red shift called seven point seven, which means twenty
- 24:14Speaker 1: nine billion light years away. This is something that's so
- 24:17Speaker 1: old that when it was made, this galaxy was made,
- 24:21Speaker 1: the whole universe was just about six hundred million years old.
- 24:24Speaker 1: I mean the universe basically a baby when this thing
- 24:27Speaker 1: was born. This thing has been around for a super
- 24:30Speaker 1: long time, and now it's really far away. That's the
- 24:33Speaker 1: furthest thing the Hubble has ever seen. But remember Hubble
- 24:36Speaker 1: can't see things that are super red shifted because it's
- 24:39Speaker 1: out of the range of frequency that Hubble is sensitive to.
- 24:43Speaker 1: So we use other cameras and we can see things
- 24:45Speaker 1: that are out to redshift eleven point nine, which means
- 24:48Speaker 1: more than thirty two billion light years away. The universe
- 24:53Speaker 1: was a mere four hundred million years old when this
- 24:56Speaker 1: thing was formed, So that's the record, a red shift
- 24:59Speaker 1: eleven point nine, thirty two billion light years away. That's
- 25:03Speaker 1: the furthest thing we've seen. And with our telescopes and
- 25:08Speaker 1: with our cameras, and we can look really deep into
- 25:10Speaker 1: the universe and we can see a huge number of objects.
- 25:13Speaker 1: But even if we see these things that, first of all,
- 25:15Speaker 1: we can't see the entire sky this way because looking
- 25:18Speaker 1: this far into space seeing things that are this dim
- 25:21Speaker 1: takes time, and Hubble just hasn't existed long enough to
- 25:25Speaker 1: scan the entire sky at this resolution to spend enough
- 25:29Speaker 1: time looking at every little patch of the sky in
- 25:32Speaker 1: order to see this, So most of the night sky
- 25:36Speaker 1: is unexamined. What we think of as the Hubble deep field,
- 25:39Speaker 1: if you look it up, is actually a tiny little
- 25:41Speaker 1: patch of the sky. Most of the night sky has
- 25:44Speaker 1: photons coming to us from distant, old, ancient objects which
- 25:49Speaker 1: might not even exist anymore, and nobody's looking at them
- 25:52Speaker 1: right because we don't have enough Hubbles and it would
- 25:54Speaker 1: take forever for Hubble to scan the entire sky. So
- 25:58Speaker 1: most of the things that are out there, uncountably huge
- 26:01Speaker 1: numbers of stars out there, nobody can see them, and
- 26:04Speaker 1: nobody's even looking. But maybe one day we'll build enough telescopes,
- 26:09Speaker 1: or we'll spend enough time to look all the way
- 26:11Speaker 1: through the entire sky, we will be able to see
- 26:14Speaker 1: all of those uncountably many objects. But even if you've
- 26:18Speaker 1: made a pile of bananas, one banana per per star
- 26:21Speaker 1: in the sky, I would still not be able to
- 26:23Speaker 1: get my mind around the huge number of objects out there.
- 26:27Speaker 1: So next time you're out there camping, look up at
- 26:29Speaker 1: the night sky and try to count how many stars
- 26:32Speaker 1: can you see? I think you'll be surprised to discover
- 26:35Speaker 1: it's not actually that many. It's hard to count up
- 26:37Speaker 1: to thousands and thousands of stars, and maybe you get
- 26:40Speaker 1: bored before you get there. But remember it's a tiny
- 26:43Speaker 1: fraction of the stars that are out there, and we're
- 26:45Speaker 1: lucky that as humans we can build devices that let
- 26:48Speaker 1: us peer deeper and deeper into the universe and unravel
- 26:51Speaker 1: the secrets that those distant objects hold. Thanks for listening
- 26:55Speaker 1: and tune in next time for more crazy facts about
- 26:58Speaker 1: the universe. If you still have a question after listening
- 27:09Speaker 1: to all these explanations, please drop us a line. We'd
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