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- 0:22Speaker 1: Habby Tuesday.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome to the Sean o'connells Show on ESPN seven
- 0:28Speaker 2: hundred and one FM.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Happy to be with you once again. Fun show lined
- 0:35Speaker 3: up for you. You just heard the teas from James Peterson.
- 0:40Speaker 3: One small audible to call the Gov. Spencer Warren. We're
- 0:46Speaker 3: gonna have to take a rain check with the Gov
- 0:49Speaker 3: because he had something come up. But World Cup soccer
- 0:53Speaker 3: begins on Thursday, and we'll be continuing for several weeks,
- 0:58Speaker 3: so we will have plenty to talk about in that
- 1:01Speaker 3: world whenever he can jump on. Kristin Peak is going
- 1:06Speaker 3: to join us ahead of the upcoming NBA draft that
- 1:09Speaker 3: is rapidly approaching. Ari Tempkin joins us at one thirty
- 1:13Speaker 3: Big twelve Radio on tune In and of course a
- 1:16Speaker 3: Big twelve insider. He's going to have some thoughts on
- 1:19Speaker 3: what will be the lead story today. The biggest thing
- 1:23Speaker 3: as the oh sorry, Gordy Chay is also at eleven
- 1:26Speaker 3: thirty because it's a Tuesday, Uh, lots of meat on
- 1:31Speaker 3: the bone. With the NBA Playoffs. With the NBA Finals,
- 1:35Speaker 3: New York goes up two games to zero. San Antonio
- 1:40Speaker 3: makes it a series Clause one back deflates things inside
- 1:44Speaker 3: Madison Square Garden a little bit.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Imagine if you.
- 1:46Speaker 3: Spent fifty five thousand dollars for a ticket to watch
- 1:51Speaker 3: the team lose. That is the That is the number
- 1:55Speaker 3: one concern for me. Anytime I'm just like.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Oh, should I buy Should I buy this?
- 2:00Speaker 3: Like super Bowl ticket for the San Francisco forty nine
- 2:03Speaker 3: ers last time they were playing in Vegas.
- 2:05Speaker 1: I can't do it. I can't justify it.
- 2:08Speaker 3: I have Mouth's defeat at home, and then I felt
- 2:11Speaker 3: vindicated and justified and not purchasing as a super Bowl
- 2:16Speaker 3: ticket because it's tough.
- 2:20Speaker 4: Man.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the ROI on a winning performance, Like
- 2:26Speaker 3: if Jalen Brunson goes off, scores twelve consecutive points, closes
- 2:30Speaker 3: out of victory at Madison Square Garden, You're just like.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Money is the material. You can't take it with you
- 2:39Speaker 1: when you die. That experience was worth however much I
- 2:42Speaker 1: paid for it.
- 2:43Speaker 3: If you're like man one fifteen, one eleven, even if
- 2:47Speaker 3: they go on to win the series, you're gonna be like, yeah,
- 2:50Speaker 3: I was there for the game where they lost for
- 2:53Speaker 3: the first time since April.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Yeah they might they might have. Even if they win
- 2:57Speaker 1: in five games.
- 2:58Speaker 3: That's the only you were at the game, the only
- 3:00Speaker 3: loss they had.
- 3:02Speaker 1: I'll say this to.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Saw the stat if you're watching last night, you saw
- 3:07Speaker 3: it on the graphic right before tip off, right sorry,
- 3:10Speaker 3: right after the game ended. The I think this is
- 3:15Speaker 3: either second or third time that the road team has
- 3:18Speaker 3: won the first three games in NBA Finals history. First
- 3:22Speaker 3: time since the nineteen ninety three Phoenix Suns, led by
- 3:26Speaker 3: Charles Barkley, who just happened to be on the floor
- 3:29Speaker 3: for Inside the NBA for this game. So Ernie Johnson,
- 3:33Speaker 3: very very sadly, he looked at him and said, you
- 3:37Speaker 3: guys lost your first two games at home.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Against the Noles.
- 3:40Speaker 3: How did you win Game three? That game three, by
- 3:43Speaker 3: the way, in Chicago, triple overtime win for the Suns
- 3:47Speaker 3: as they were down two, licking their wounds from bad
- 3:51Speaker 3: home stand. So this is first time since those guys,
- 3:55Speaker 3: those Sons won. They lost all three games at home,
- 4:00Speaker 3: won two road games, but not back to back, so
- 4:04Speaker 3: they ended up going down three to one. The Spurs
- 4:06Speaker 3: gotta do it, the Spurs, if you figure got to
- 4:08Speaker 3: do it differently than they did, don't just extend the
- 4:11Speaker 3: series to a game six. Later on send it back
- 4:15Speaker 3: to the garden. Win tonight and put the series back
- 4:19Speaker 3: in your favor, we'll see how it go. Or win
- 4:21Speaker 3: tomorrow night and put the series back in your favor.
- 4:23Speaker 3: We'll see how it goes. By the way, the get
- 4:25Speaker 3: in price is a paltry forty six hundred dollars if
- 4:30Speaker 3: you want to go to this next game. That is
- 4:33Speaker 3: for a you're sitting in the in the four hundred's section.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Okayee.
- 4:39Speaker 3: So at Madison Square Garden, you've got Celebrity Row and
- 4:43Speaker 3: all that. Those are those are the single digit sections.
- 4:46Speaker 3: Those are section four, five, and six, all right, soon
- 4:51Speaker 3: to be named after Spike Lee and and and then
- 4:55Speaker 3: you've got the regular like any other arena. You've got
- 4:58Speaker 3: the one hundreds, which are your low were bowl seats.
- 5:01Speaker 3: You've got the load seating, You've got the sweets and
- 5:04Speaker 3: things like that. You've got the two hundreds, which are
- 5:07Speaker 3: some upper bowl seats. You've got the three hundreds, which
- 5:10Speaker 3: are like you're basically tied to the rafters. Okay, this
- 5:15Speaker 3: is and they're not fancy like the upcoming Delta Center
- 5:18Speaker 3: gondola seating.
- 5:20Speaker 1: And you got the four hundreds.
- 5:21Speaker 3: Those are on the basket ends way up there hanging
- 5:25Speaker 3: like you have to look around the Walt Clyde Fraser banner.
- 5:30Speaker 3: You have to like wait productive view seating. You have
- 5:33Speaker 3: to wait for the air conditioner to flutter the banners
- 5:37Speaker 3: out of the way so that you could, oh, I.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Just saw, I just saw. I think that was Jayale Broughton.
- 5:41Speaker 5: That was cool.
- 5:42Speaker 3: Otherwise you're just looking at the back of a bed
- 5:44Speaker 3: sheet the whole time for forty six hundred bucks. Anyway,
- 5:48Speaker 3: we'll talk about that with Gordy Chias, and we'll talk
- 5:50Speaker 3: about the Stanley Cup final. But the big story really
- 5:55Speaker 3: in the sports world, and certainly here in the state
- 5:58Speaker 3: of Utah, we are very much such a college football state.
- 6:02Speaker 3: I think until the Jazz get good again, it is
- 6:05Speaker 3: the primary driver of sports fan interest here in our state.
- 6:11Speaker 3: I think the the state we find college football in
- 6:17Speaker 3: with a vested interest because it's a big twelve team,
- 6:21Speaker 3: because it's a player you watched at rice Eco Stadium
- 6:24Speaker 3: last year, Because it's a very obvious risk affront, slap
- 6:30Speaker 3: in the face two teams that you care about. You
- 6:34Speaker 3: are familiar with the Brendan Soresby scenario where he has
- 6:40Speaker 3: been granted he's been granted an injunction by a Dallas judge,
- 6:45Speaker 3: a fort Worth judge who had to be brought in
- 6:48Speaker 3: flown in to hear the appeals in Lubbock County because
- 6:54Speaker 3: all of the Lubbot judges are somehow on paper tiede
- 7:00Speaker 3: to Texas Tech. Remember the initial judge who was assigned
- 7:03Speaker 3: to it recused himself because there's a bunch of pictures
- 7:06Speaker 3: of him and his wife at like Red Raider Club,
- 7:10Speaker 3: the what's it called the Mattador Club, at Mattador Club events.
- 7:13Speaker 3: So he recused himself, and all of us were like, oh, okay,
- 7:16Speaker 3: showing a little integer there.
- 7:18Speaker 5: Nice guy.
- 7:19Speaker 3: And then you go down the list, you get down
- 7:21Speaker 3: to like judge number eight, and you're like, okay, you
- 7:24Speaker 3: know what, all these guys or gals they have something
- 7:27Speaker 3: to do with Texas Tech.
- 7:28Speaker 1: We're gonna have to find a neutral party.
- 7:30Speaker 3: The problem is you brought in a neutral party that
- 7:34Speaker 3: went to law school with these guys anyway, or was
- 7:37Speaker 3: in some kind of you know, golf or poker game
- 7:40Speaker 3: with these guys. It's I know, Texas is a big state,
- 7:43Speaker 3: but there's not an unlimited supply of judges on this
- 7:48Speaker 3: level of power, so they all know each other. And
- 7:50Speaker 3: you know, pat my back, I'll pat yours, scratch my back,
- 7:54Speaker 3: ill scratch yours whatever. I don't trust at all that
- 7:59Speaker 3: that process went cleanly, smoothly, or without corruption. But at
- 8:03Speaker 3: the end of the day, my opinion of that doesn't matter.
- 8:06Speaker 3: What happens is Brendan's Soursby is eligible despite the fact
- 8:13Speaker 3: that he bet thousands of times, sometimes illegally, well actually
- 8:18Speaker 3: not sometimes illegally, many many, many, many times illegally. Either
- 8:24Speaker 3: he was underage, which you can't be on the betting apps.
- 8:29Speaker 1: It's criminal.
- 8:30Speaker 3: And I am not going to get on some high
- 8:32Speaker 3: horse and tell you, oh, how dare he be a
- 8:35Speaker 3: nineteen year old betting? You know, it's like nineteen year
- 8:38Speaker 3: old's on college campuses drinking. They're on college campuses smoking,
- 8:42Speaker 3: They're on college campuses doing a bunch of.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Stuff they're not supposed to be doing.
- 8:45Speaker 3: And yes, they're also on college campuses betting before they're
- 8:49Speaker 3: allowed to bet.
- 8:51Speaker 1: And that's neither here nor there for me. It is also.
- 8:58Speaker 3: Illegal, prosecutable if you are gambling based on non public
- 9:07Speaker 3: insider knowledge, based on trade secrets. Every gambling watchdog place
- 9:17Speaker 3: flags irregular betting activity for exactly that. Now clearly, in
- 9:24Speaker 3: Brendan Sorosby's case, he was not using his information to
- 9:29Speaker 3: share with a bunch of other people to tell somebody
- 9:31Speaker 3: else how to bet. But he was, and I've said
- 9:34Speaker 3: it many times, and you've heard it many times. He
- 9:36Speaker 3: read in a bunch of articles he was betting on
- 9:39Speaker 3: teams that he was a member of, on a team
- 9:43Speaker 3: at least that he was a member of. He was
- 9:44Speaker 3: also betting them on every other thing, which I suppose
- 9:47Speaker 3: supports his case that this all notes there's nothing nefarious here.
- 9:52Speaker 3: I'm just a gambling addict. It's a mental health condition.
- 9:55Speaker 3: It's an issue. And this judge granted his injunction, granted
- 10:00Speaker 3: his eligibility, and the appeal will happen in February, which
- 10:04Speaker 3: how conveniently, is well after the college football season will
- 10:07Speaker 3: be played, based on the assumption that it will cause
- 10:12Speaker 3: irreparable harm to Brendan Soresby's psyche, et cetera if he
- 10:18Speaker 3: does not participate because of his own actions, because of
- 10:23Speaker 3: his own choices, we have once again, this time with
- 10:27Speaker 3: a judge, with a justice of the peace, with an
- 10:33Speaker 3: officer of the courts, we have once again failed, as
- 10:37Speaker 3: the adults in the room to say, yes, young people,
- 10:40Speaker 3: there actually are going to be consequences for your immoral, illogical,
- 10:50Speaker 3: and yes, in this case many times illegal actions. And
- 10:54Speaker 3: one of those consequences is going to be that you
- 10:57Speaker 3: don't get to be paid five million dollars or whatever
- 11:02Speaker 3: the real number is to be the head, to be
- 11:04Speaker 3: the starting quarterback for Texas Tech University. And if you're
- 11:09Speaker 3: in Lubbock, remember last week when I came on and
- 11:12Speaker 3: I said, you know what's fascinating. They're just leaning into
- 11:15Speaker 3: being the villain in all of sports. That it's Texas
- 11:19Speaker 3: Tech versus everybody. That was before this judge granted the injunction,
- 11:27Speaker 3: granted the eligibility. Now it really is becoming Texas Tech
- 11:31Speaker 3: versus everybody, Texas Tech versus the Big Ten and the
- 11:35Speaker 3: SEC teams that are like, uh, we're not going to
- 11:38Speaker 3: play You're not We're not going to schedule you in.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Any in any other sports.
- 11:41Speaker 3: Texas Tech potentially versus the Commissioner's Office, Brett, You or
- 11:46Speaker 3: Mark in the Big Twelve conference. Certainly Texas Tech versus
- 11:49Speaker 3: everyone in the Big Twelve. But it was already going
- 11:50Speaker 3: to be that way. Texas Tech versus the NC DOUBLEA.
- 11:54Speaker 3: They already won they already won that battle. They're doing
- 12:00Speaker 3: the Allen Iverson step over on the corpse of the
- 12:04Speaker 3: NC DOUBLEA authority.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Steps over, turn lou.
- 12:09Speaker 3: And just sorry about that. Guys, by the way, good
- 12:13Speaker 3: luck trying to stop this.
- 12:15Speaker 1: You can't.
- 12:16Speaker 3: You're toothless and not toothless, like the cool dragon from
- 12:20Speaker 3: How to Train Your Dragon, toothless in like the granny
- 12:24Speaker 3: whose dentures fell out and can't do anything to defend
- 12:27Speaker 3: anyone anymore. All you need now is a maybe slightly
- 12:33Speaker 3: corrupt judge, or a judge who owes somebody else a favor,
- 12:37Speaker 3: or a judge who doesn't really have skin in the
- 12:39Speaker 3: game either way and just likes to see the world burn.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Whatever it is.
- 12:42Speaker 3: All you need now in the NC DOUBLEA world, all
- 12:46Speaker 3: you need is a judge to say, Oh, I'm granting
- 12:51Speaker 3: a temporary the temporary injunction, I'm granting a restraining order,
- 12:55Speaker 3: I'm granting an anti trust exemption, I'm granting based on
- 12:59Speaker 3: some stupid made up Brendan Soarsby. You are lying, Texas Tech.
- 13:05Speaker 3: You are lying. Everyone in your life is lying. If
- 13:09Speaker 3: you are pretending that the only reason you got caught
- 13:12Speaker 3: up in this was because it was a mental health issue.
- 13:15Speaker 3: I fully accept that it became an addiction for him.
- 13:22Speaker 3: But if you're an alcoholic, that's an addiction and you
- 13:26Speaker 3: drive drunk, there's consequences.
- 13:30Speaker 1: If you're a drug addict.
- 13:34Speaker 3: And you deal to fund your habit, your a drug addict,
- 13:38Speaker 3: and you sell to fund your habit, your drug addict,
- 13:42Speaker 3: and you steal to fund your habit, there are consequences.
- 13:48Speaker 3: We are removing, We are snow plowing the consequences out
- 13:52Speaker 3: of the way of Brendan Soresby. And here's the thing.
- 13:57Speaker 3: I have no like gripe against the guy. I don't.
- 14:05Speaker 3: I think there's been a lot of people who've done
- 14:07Speaker 3: a lot worse things and we have gotten out of
- 14:09Speaker 3: their way with any kind of justice. And this is
- 14:12Speaker 3: why I'm wagging my finger at everything and everybody right now. Okay,
- 14:17Speaker 3: I'm becoming the old man, get off my lawn again.
- 14:20Speaker 3: Because while I think it is absurd, performative, ridiculous, disgusting
- 14:26Speaker 3: that Texas Tech is being, you know, digging themselves on
- 14:29Speaker 3: their digging themselves in on their position, Texas Tech could
- 14:34Speaker 3: just say, oh man, we didn't know about this.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Cincinnati knew about this.
- 14:39Speaker 3: Everybody go attacked Cincinnati we didn't know about this with
- 14:41Speaker 3: Brendan Sorosby. They could just say, we're washing our hands
- 14:46Speaker 3: of this, this is a bad deal. Cody Campbell could
- 14:49Speaker 3: be saying, hey, guys, nobody told me that I was
- 14:52Speaker 3: going to be expected to pay the salary on a
- 14:55Speaker 3: dude who bet thousands and thousands of times and was
- 14:59Speaker 3: gonna drag my I beloved University into the depths of
- 15:03Speaker 3: pr held. Nobody told me that I'm pulling my support.
- 15:08Speaker 3: They could easily say that. You know how easy it
- 15:10Speaker 3: would be for Joey MacGuire to just say, hey, we
- 15:13Speaker 3: didn't we didn't know this about Brendan Soresby and doesn't
- 15:18Speaker 3: fit the Matador culture, doesn't fit the Red Raider team
- 15:22Speaker 3: that I'm trying to build. We wish him well, we
- 15:25Speaker 3: want good things for him. We'll let him keep his
- 15:27Speaker 3: signing bonus because it's no skin off our back. But uh,
- 15:32Speaker 3: we cannot, we cannot abide by this. We believe in
- 15:37Speaker 3: the competitive integrity blah blah blah. If I'm Will Hammond,
- 15:41Speaker 3: i am transferring right now.
- 15:46Speaker 1: I'm unenrolling from school. I'm doing the ghost transfer thing.
- 15:51Speaker 3: I'm joining the track team for five minutes and I'm
- 15:56Speaker 3: transferring as a track athlete. I'm becoming a member of
- 15:59Speaker 3: the win Wo men's volleyball team for five minutes so
- 16:03Speaker 3: that I can transfer in their window or whatever. If
- 16:06Speaker 3: I'm the guy who's the backup who's coming off an injury,
- 16:10Speaker 3: who was awesome, awesome in relief last year, I'm probably
- 16:14Speaker 3: already like, oh man, they're bringing this other guy in
- 16:17Speaker 3: because they don't think I'm gonna recover from this.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Injury fast enough. Dang, that's okay.
- 16:22Speaker 3: When it comes down to it, I'm gonna play great
- 16:24Speaker 3: football when it's my turn to play great football. If
- 16:28Speaker 3: I'm looking at this and I'm saying the university that
- 16:31Speaker 3: I have committed to and played some good football for
- 16:33Speaker 3: already and I got hurt for and I am rehabbing for,
- 16:36Speaker 3: that university is willing to drag all of us through
- 16:41Speaker 3: the mud for the sake of this guy who's never
- 16:44Speaker 3: played a down.
- 16:45Speaker 1: For us at my position.
- 16:47Speaker 3: And I'm gonna be back in week four, are gonna
- 16:49Speaker 3: be back in week five, And they're already saying those
- 16:52Speaker 3: at least to spend him for a couple of weeks.
- 16:54Speaker 3: My university is not gonna give me two extra weeks they.
- 16:58Speaker 1: Don't excuse me. They don't believe in me enough.
- 17:03Speaker 3: They don't believe in Will Hammond enough to give two
- 17:06Speaker 3: extra weeks of time off for recovery in order to
- 17:11Speaker 3: avoid being the butt of every NCAA eligibility legality joke
- 17:19Speaker 3: from now until the end of college football as we
- 17:23Speaker 3: know it. My coaching staff, Cody Campbell, my university president,
- 17:30Speaker 3: my athletic director, don't think I am enough of a talent,
- 17:34Speaker 3: of a solution at the quarterback position that they're at
- 17:37Speaker 3: least willing to avoid being the absolute face of corruption
- 17:45Speaker 3: and a failure of the system.
- 17:48Speaker 1: So they're going to ride with Brendan Soresby instead of me.
- 17:50Speaker 3: If I'm Will Hammond, I'm going to that same judge
- 17:55Speaker 3: that just granted his eligibility and I'm saying, I need
- 17:59Speaker 3: you to give me some kind of funny exemption so
- 18:02Speaker 3: I can go transfer to play for Kansas or whomever.
- 18:08Speaker 3: Get me the you know what out of here. I
- 18:12Speaker 3: don't want to be part of this circus. I'm a
- 18:16Speaker 3: good player at this position, and they're digging so far
- 18:20Speaker 3: in on this guy who's done nothing for our program
- 18:23Speaker 3: so far at my expense.
- 18:27Speaker 1: I can't even imagine how that feels.
- 18:33Speaker 3: But the reason everyone gets the finger wag right now,
- 18:39Speaker 3: think of any infraction, any dubious sort of moral activity,
- 18:48Speaker 3: any crime that could possibly commit it be committed, and
- 18:54Speaker 3: at some point a relatively prominent college football player has
- 19:01Speaker 3: crossed that line. At some point, all right, we have,
- 19:06Speaker 3: over the course of our collective fandom cheered for, or
- 19:11Speaker 3: at least been silent on and kind of politely looked
- 19:14Speaker 3: the other way on athletes, prominent athletes in some cases,
- 19:20Speaker 3: that have been found guilty of, or accused of, or
- 19:27Speaker 3: known to have participated in academic frauds. Certainly, cheating on
- 19:33Speaker 3: your homework was a time honored tradition, right. Performance enhancing
- 19:39Speaker 3: substances have been a big problem at different eras of
- 19:42Speaker 3: college sports. Different programs have been more guilty than others,
- 19:47Speaker 3: But certainly that level of cheating people have turned a
- 19:53Speaker 3: sort of a blind eye to, or an apathetic eye to,
- 19:57Speaker 3: for many, many years in many, many different cases. The
- 20:02Speaker 3: underage drinkings, the duys, the domestic abuse allegations, the sexual assaults,
- 20:12Speaker 3: the evading arrests. I mean, we have on tape guys
- 20:18Speaker 3: that have ran away from the cops, have been tackled
- 20:21Speaker 3: by the cops, Baker Mayfield, I'm talking to you. You
- 20:24Speaker 3: gave that guy a Heisman trophy right, by the way,
- 20:29Speaker 3: also in the Big twelve. Also in the Big twelve
- 20:31Speaker 3: at the time, at the time, right, it was Joe Mixon.
- 20:36Speaker 3: Remember Joe Mixon knocked a girl unconscious on security tape
- 20:42Speaker 3: in a bar hold on, hold on. He got drafted
- 20:45Speaker 3: in the second round instead of the first round, so
- 20:47Speaker 3: time served, right, Oh see, And like like a full
- 20:52Speaker 3: grown muscular man punched a girl in the face hard,
- 20:58Speaker 3: snapped her head off her body practically because she allegedly
- 21:03Speaker 3: called him an offensive name. And I don't think people,
- 21:07Speaker 3: if that's exactly what happened with her, I don't think
- 21:09Speaker 3: she should go without consequences. But that consequence was something
- 21:13Speaker 3: that like we were just like, oh, but Joe Mixon
- 21:16Speaker 3: is a really good football player. So so here's where
- 21:21Speaker 3: I I think I separate myself from the herd.
- 21:25Speaker 1: I'm with everyone who's just like.
- 21:27Speaker 3: Yeah, Texas Tech, Soresby, bring the hammer down the sec
- 21:31Speaker 3: don't schedule Texas Tech. Okay, Big ten, this is the
- 21:38Speaker 3: this is the line you want to draw in the sand.
- 21:40Speaker 1: Yeah, screw this, this is corruption.
- 21:45Speaker 3: This is a threat to the integrity of the games
- 21:48Speaker 3: that we actually want to be able to watch and
- 21:51Speaker 3: doubt the outcomes of, Yeah, let's fight this battle.
- 21:54Speaker 1: But then I also go, well, wait a minute.
- 21:59Speaker 3: How many players have you let play at a Big
- 22:03Speaker 3: ten school, at an SEC school, at any conference school.
- 22:06Speaker 3: How many times have you sat in your seat up
- 22:11Speaker 3: there in the president's box. How many times have you
- 22:15Speaker 3: gone to the press conference and said no comment when
- 22:18Speaker 3: there was some player who committed a real crime, a
- 22:23Speaker 3: violent crime, a harmful crime, something that undermined everything that
- 22:30Speaker 3: college athletics are supposed to be about. How many times
- 22:33Speaker 3: have you said, you know what, as long as we
- 22:35Speaker 3: put the student, as long as he's in the transfer portal,
- 22:37Speaker 3: or as long as it's expunged from his record. We
- 22:42Speaker 3: have so many times, and I'm talking about thousands and
- 22:48Speaker 3: thousands and thousands of times. We have so many times
- 22:52Speaker 3: all of us are guilty of this, just conveniently forgotten
- 22:57Speaker 3: about the worst behaviors because the guy's talented, And oddly enough,
- 23:06Speaker 3: everyone is choosing to die on this hill. With Brendan Sowarsby,
- 23:13Speaker 3: it's not dissimilar from when everyone decided to die on
- 23:16Speaker 3: the Ray Rice Hill. Because with ray Rice we saw
- 23:20Speaker 3: it on tape, and by all means, Ray Rice deserved
- 23:27Speaker 3: to have the hammer come down.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Ray Rice deserved to have his.
- 23:32Speaker 3: Opportunities taken away from him because he committed a terrible, heinous, violent,
- 23:39Speaker 3: awful crime against someone weaker than him. He was also
- 23:45Speaker 3: one of like a thousand dudes in a three year
- 23:48Speaker 3: span who had similar infractions.
- 23:53Speaker 1: It's probably an exaggeration.
- 23:54Speaker 3: But many, many, many dudes, many people had done that
- 23:57Speaker 3: same thing.
- 23:58Speaker 1: His was caught on tape.
- 23:59Speaker 3: Joe Mixon's thing was caught on tape, but Joe Mixon
- 24:03Speaker 3: was just like, ah, yeah, but you know what, he
- 24:05Speaker 3: was a kid and it was kind of obscure enough
- 24:10Speaker 3: that we here in the NFL don't have to worry
- 24:12Speaker 3: about it.
- 24:13Speaker 1: So uh time time, serf.
- 24:15Speaker 3: Because like James said, he lost a little bit of
- 24:20Speaker 3: bonus money in his draft position.
- 24:22Speaker 1: We are doing this thing again.
- 24:24Speaker 3: We are failing by saying this thing is the thing
- 24:29Speaker 3: that matters to us, because it's the betting, and it's
- 24:31Speaker 3: the gambling, and it's the sports books, and it's the
- 24:35Speaker 3: partnerships and it's the revenue and it's all that.
- 24:38Speaker 1: So this matters to us. So I'm gonna I'm gonna
- 24:41Speaker 1: be the Big ten.
- 24:43Speaker 3: And this doesn't directly affect me at all, by the way,
- 24:45Speaker 3: And I'm gonna look at it and I'm gonna say, yep,
- 24:47Speaker 3: I have a problem with that, and I'm gonna be
- 24:51Speaker 3: in the sec. Oh, I got a problem with you,
- 24:54Speaker 3: Texas Tech. How dare you do this? We would never
- 24:58Speaker 3: allow a criminal to play on one of our fields.
- 25:02Speaker 3: We would never grant eligibility to someone who is accused
- 25:05Speaker 3: of or guilty of a heinous crime. We would never
- 25:10Speaker 3: let an addict play for one of our teams. And
- 25:16Speaker 3: so all the self righteous stuff gets really thin when
- 25:19Speaker 3: you start comparing. And I know it's apples to oranges
- 25:22Speaker 3: in a lot of these cases. And I know that
- 25:24Speaker 3: the Soresby thing deserves to be punished, But our selective
- 25:30Speaker 3: outrage in what we want to punish so universally is
- 25:34Speaker 3: pretty dumb.
- 25:36Speaker 1: It's pretty embarrassing. Honestly, betting is one of the.
- 25:41Speaker 3: Time honored things that we have to protect in college sports. Well, no,
- 25:48Speaker 3: I get it. You're not protecting betting. You're protecting the
- 25:52Speaker 3: integrity of the competition, the sport from betting. But here's
- 25:56Speaker 3: the thing.
- 25:56Speaker 1: He didn't.
- 25:57Speaker 3: Maybe he had inside knowledge when he was betting. He
- 26:01Speaker 3: was betting in favor of his team to win. The
- 26:05Speaker 3: one thing he is not accused of here, Brendan Soresby,
- 26:09Speaker 3: is any kind of like match fixing, game fixing, throwing
- 26:15Speaker 3: points shaving, none of that.
- 26:18Speaker 1: You're not accused of any of that.
- 26:21Speaker 3: He is guilty of, admittedly of betting on things he
- 26:24Speaker 3: was not supposed to be betting on, thousands of times
- 26:26Speaker 3: over which, by the way, is enough by itself to
- 26:31Speaker 3: make him ineligible, and up until this weekend, was always
- 26:37Speaker 3: enough to make a player permanently ineligible to compete in
- 26:42Speaker 3: college sports. And Texas Tech decided, you know what, this
- 26:48Speaker 3: is the hill we're going to die on. We're gonna
- 26:51Speaker 3: fight this. We're going to find a judge who's willing
- 26:53Speaker 3: to fight it with us. And now we've got this
- 26:56Speaker 3: guy playing, and everyone else in the college football world says, oh,
- 27:00Speaker 3: you were ready to die on that hill. And because
- 27:03Speaker 3: you were able to take the hill, you got the
- 27:06Speaker 3: high ground there.
- 27:07Speaker 1: You won that battle.
- 27:09Speaker 3: Now we are all gonna take up our banners and
- 27:12Speaker 3: we are gonna march, and we are gonna protest, and
- 27:14Speaker 3: we are gonna die on this hill. Also Texas Tech,
- 27:17Speaker 3: except we are gonna do it by saying we hate you,
- 27:20Speaker 3: we don't like you, we are judging you, and we
- 27:22Speaker 3: would never do this thing that you're doing. If I'm
- 27:26Speaker 3: Texas Tech, I'm saying, Georgia has come out and said
- 27:30Speaker 3: that they don't want to play us in any sport.
- 27:33Speaker 3: Georgia softball is not gonna play us. Georgia basketball is
- 27:36Speaker 3: not gonna play us. Most importantly, Georgia football is not
- 27:39Speaker 3: gonna play us.
- 27:40Speaker 6: Uh.
- 27:40Speaker 1: Here's what we are accused of. Here's what we are
- 27:42Speaker 1: guilty of.
- 27:43Speaker 3: Letting the better, we are letting the betting guy play
- 27:48Speaker 3: starting quarterback for us. Here's what we think you should
- 27:51Speaker 3: care about with Georgia football. And I'm listing every single
- 27:55Speaker 3: traffic in fraction, every single the vehicular manslaughter. Guy, I'm
- 28:03Speaker 3: listening to all of it. You want to play in
- 28:06Speaker 3: the mud, let's play in the mud. You want to
- 28:08Speaker 3: start muck slinging, let's go. Like, I'm so grateful that
- 28:16Speaker 3: Utah is not involved in this directly, I'm actually very grateful.
- 28:22Speaker 1: While I thought Mark Harlan's.
- 28:24Speaker 3: Statement was pretty good, pretty comprehensive, I made a couple
- 28:27Speaker 3: of phone calls, didn't get anything extra, Like how mad
- 28:30Speaker 3: Utah really is about this, whether or not they want
- 28:33Speaker 3: to die on this hill the way that some of
- 28:35Speaker 3: these other places are trying to die on this hill.
- 28:39Speaker 3: But I don't want Utah to take that stance. I
- 28:44Speaker 3: don't want to play Texas Tech. Then you're gonna let
- 28:47Speaker 3: stores be played. We don't want to play them. Then no,
- 28:48Speaker 3: give me sores be give me everyone else, I'll beat you.
- 28:54Speaker 3: That's what I want Utah stands to be. I don't
- 28:56Speaker 3: know what Utah's official stance is going to be. That's
- 28:57Speaker 3: what I want Utah stands to be, because what I
- 29:00Speaker 3: don't want is for anyone to stand in the glasshouse
- 29:06Speaker 3: and throw stones and say, well, yeah, you can't let
- 29:09Speaker 3: a betting guy play, because guess what, even Utah's got
- 29:13Speaker 3: skeletons in the closet.
- 29:15Speaker 1: And BYU, if you think you're any better, I promise
- 29:18Speaker 1: you're worse.
- 29:19Speaker 3: Okay, BYU, I'd better not hear any self, right, just
- 29:23Speaker 3: kind of like, well, betting is terrible, and we better
- 29:26Speaker 3: not play against Texas check if they've got this Sworsby guy.
- 29:29Speaker 1: There's a.
- 29:31Speaker 3: There are people on the BYU roster right now that
- 29:36Speaker 3: should be in prison.
- 29:39Speaker 1: And I'm not talking.
- 29:40Speaker 3: About the guy that's already been caught. I'm not talking
- 29:42Speaker 3: about the guy that's already off the team. You do
- 29:46Speaker 3: not want to start digging up the skeletons in the closet.
- 29:50Speaker 1: You do not want to point a finger at another program.
- 29:54Speaker 3: If you're Utah, if you're BYU, if you're Arizona State,
- 29:57Speaker 3: if you're anyone, you do not want to say you
- 30:00Speaker 3: you are the bad guys here. Texas Tech is like, yeah,
- 30:03Speaker 3: will be the bad guys, but we will say that
- 30:06Speaker 3: about ourselves. You don't get to point the fingers. This
- 30:12Speaker 3: is going to get so hideously ugly when Brendan Soresby
- 30:19Speaker 3: is allowed to play and universities athletic departments are forced
- 30:23Speaker 3: to make the decision do we want to play against them.
- 30:28Speaker 1: If they're letting that guy play.
- 30:33Speaker 3: If their answer is yes, we all have to accept
- 30:37Speaker 3: the fact that the NCAA has no authority, that these
- 30:40Speaker 3: corrupt judges can just fix any problem for anybody.
- 30:45Speaker 1: We all have to accept that, or.
- 30:50Speaker 3: We have to accept the fact that Texas Tech and
- 30:54Speaker 3: anyone who supports what they are doing is going to say,
- 30:57Speaker 3: all right, your moral high ground on this bed thing
- 31:03Speaker 3: is actually not a good place for you. To stand
- 31:05Speaker 3: because of example X y Z. This is going to
- 31:13Speaker 3: become the negative political campaign ads in college sports, and
- 31:21Speaker 3: I promise you all of us are gonna hate it.
- 31:25Speaker 3: It's gonna be a distraction all year. It's gonna be
- 31:30Speaker 3: a storyline every time Texas Tech wins a close game
- 31:34Speaker 3: and Brendan Soaresby plays well, it's gonna be one of
- 31:40Speaker 3: those things. Up shouldn't have even played him, They shouldn't
- 31:43Speaker 3: have him available. And if I'm Will Hammond and Will
- 31:47Speaker 3: Hammond's family, i am seething on the sideline and I'm saying,
- 31:50Speaker 3: get me out of here, because now I am catching
- 31:54Speaker 3: the strays from this. I'm the guy who should be
- 31:57Speaker 3: playing in these games because I never did the betting thing.
- 32:00Speaker 3: I followed the rules. I guess I'm making some assumptions there,
- 32:04Speaker 3: but let's assume prepare for college sports to be uglier
- 32:10Speaker 3: than it's ever been.
- 32:11Speaker 1: People.
- 32:12Speaker 3: That's what this judge in Texas decided he was okay with.
- 32:21Speaker 3: We'll get back into this a little bit later on
- 32:23Speaker 3: in the show Off to a hot start. I'm literally
- 32:28Speaker 3: warm in the studios right now because this bothers me
- 32:31Speaker 3: that much. Gordy Chier's at a talk NBA Finals. Next,
- 32:36Speaker 3: it's the Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN seven hundred.
- 32:39Speaker 4: That is.
- 32:44Speaker 5: Peace out.
- 32:45Speaker 7: Let's get the latest of the Utah Jazz, which former
- 32:48Speaker 7: Jazz assistant coach Forrdy he's forgotten more about the NBA
- 32:52Speaker 7: than any of us will ever know.
- 32:53Speaker 5: Let's not get crazy. Come for the hoops talk, stay
- 32:56Speaker 5: for its list of the day.
- 32:57Speaker 1: My list today, here's oh C with.
- 33:00Speaker 7: Basketball savon Gordy Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell Show.
- 33:07Speaker 3: Oh we welcome in Gordy Chiasa, our resident NBA guru
- 33:11Speaker 3: for a conversation about these NBA Finals.
- 33:15Speaker 1: Things got a lot more interesting.
- 33:17Speaker 3: After a surprising first couple of games in San Antonio,
- 33:22Speaker 3: the circus packs up returns to Madison Square Garden. What
- 33:26Speaker 3: an epic night, and the San Antonio Spurs go to
- 33:30Speaker 3: MSG and beat the New York Knicks one fifteen, one eleven,
- 33:35Speaker 3: Game three to make it two to one in favor
- 33:39Speaker 3: of the Knicks. They still have home court advantage here,
- 33:43Speaker 3: but it shows you that when this Spurs team turns
- 33:47Speaker 3: it on and plays right, this series can be exactly
- 33:50Speaker 3: what we hope it will be.
- 33:51Speaker 1: Gordy Chiasa welcome to the show. How are you sir?
- 33:55Speaker 8: Showing I'm doing well? And add to that, it was
- 33:58Speaker 8: a Gordon party and these Spurs were the crasher of
- 34:01Speaker 8: the party. And this showed you the ability to get
- 34:04Speaker 8: yourself focused from the opening tap, and that's what the
- 34:09Speaker 8: Spurs did. They were ready to play, and the nicroboxers,
- 34:13Speaker 8: to their credit, they tried to battle hard, but they
- 34:16Speaker 8: had there was almost like self inflicting those costly turnovers
- 34:20Speaker 8: and they're absolutely was off fouling, and that was the
- 34:23Speaker 8: big controversy Sean as far as the day half a
- 34:26Speaker 8: day later was the foul discrepancy where Mike Brown was
- 34:31Speaker 8: complaining to the lead official, Mark Davis, who was a
- 34:34Speaker 8: crew chief that in the second half that the Spurs
- 34:37Speaker 8: shot twenty four to three throws and Nick only shot eight.
- 34:41Speaker 8: And part of the reason was was that absolutely the
- 34:44Speaker 8: Spurs were the aggressor and that the nicrobacker's I called
- 34:49Speaker 8: Sean were playing a machete defense chop chop where they
- 34:53Speaker 8: were they were physical, but those last split second they
- 34:56Speaker 8: were absolutely fouling the the Spurs rolling to the basket
- 35:01Speaker 8: being Wen Beyonmber or just An the act of shooting.
- 35:04Speaker 8: So the Knicks have to clean that up as far
- 35:06Speaker 8: as in game four.
- 35:09Speaker 1: So I think I'm interpreting correctly.
- 35:11Speaker 3: The foul discrepancy for you was justified. There's no there's
- 35:16Speaker 3: no home cooking, or I guess it would be the
- 35:18Speaker 3: opposite of home cooking here. There's no real gripe about
- 35:22Speaker 3: the officiating, not at all my.
- 35:25Speaker 8: Point of view. Objectively. Yeah, right now, that's conspiracy theory.
- 35:29Speaker 8: Oh where they wanted wen BEYONMBA to go another game
- 35:32Speaker 8: or so too. As far as the NBA Finals, it
- 35:35Speaker 8: doesn't work like that, absolutely not. This is the big League,
- 35:39Speaker 8: this is prime time, this is a global an event,
- 35:43Speaker 8: and that when Beyondber and his crew, they outplayed the
- 35:47Speaker 8: Knicks as far as the physicality of the game. And
- 35:52Speaker 8: that's why it's so important. Wemby was absolutely great last night.
- 35:55Speaker 8: He made the he made the the Nikobocker's foul as
- 36:00Speaker 8: how he got it. He got it on runs to
- 36:02Speaker 8: the basket, on a high pick and roll. He got
- 36:04Speaker 8: it as far as broken plays, and most of all,
- 36:07Speaker 8: he got it when they had to and that fourth
- 36:09Speaker 8: quarter when he gets ten points in a quarter and
- 36:13Speaker 8: he got to the foul line and he stuck his
- 36:15Speaker 8: fouth shot eight for nine. But it was Wemby. It's
- 36:18Speaker 8: the biggest thing about it. Against unbelievable physical defense by
- 36:23Speaker 8: the Knicks and all the focal point of guarding him.
- 36:26Speaker 8: He only has one turnover last night handling that ball,
- 36:29Speaker 8: and there's so much pressure of the game. That's commendable
- 36:32Speaker 8: by him. He played absolutely great.
- 36:37Speaker 3: So now that the Spurs have sort of doused the
- 36:42Speaker 3: flame of this red hot New York Knicks team, you
- 36:45Speaker 3: go in and you spoiled, Like you said, you crashed
- 36:48Speaker 3: that garden party. It was expected to be this triumphant return,
- 36:53Speaker 3: championship level basketball being played at the Garden for the
- 36:56Speaker 3: first time in twenty seven years or whatever, and San
- 37:00Speaker 3: Antonio comes out with the win. It had been such
- 37:03Speaker 3: a role through the playoffs for this New York Knicks team.
- 37:07Speaker 3: Does does Game three, and that sort of calming effect
- 37:12Speaker 3: on that momentum carry over into Game four.
- 37:15Speaker 8: Yes, the Spurs, yes, very much, and the both teams
- 37:19Speaker 8: and since where the first two games in San Antonio
- 37:24Speaker 8: it was the tale of two cities, meaning Charles Dickens
- 37:28Speaker 8: where in Game one the Spurs collapsed and had a
- 37:33Speaker 8: fourteenth point lead in the third quarter and they lost.
- 37:36Speaker 8: And then in Game two, that the Knicks had the
- 37:39Speaker 8: lead in the fourth quarter and they almost gave it away.
- 37:43Speaker 8: Wenby's missed a jump shot from the elbow seventeen foot
- 37:47Speaker 8: or so, makeuple shot goes in. Then there it's a
- 37:50Speaker 8: different discussion. So every game has been close, and both
- 37:54Speaker 8: teams have had moments where they were the ones where
- 37:57Speaker 8: the aggressor and victorious going away in style. So now
- 38:03Speaker 8: game four it comes down to, as always, who can
- 38:07Speaker 8: play physical defense without overly fouling, who controls the backboards,
- 38:14Speaker 8: and who can make plays out of chaos. So last
- 38:18Speaker 8: night's game, Deanon Fox, who struggled in game one, came
- 38:23Speaker 8: back and he made that pull up jump shot where
- 38:26Speaker 8: they had to get a basket. That nine year veteran
- 38:29Speaker 8: sticks that shot to put him up. And then Stephen Castle,
- 38:33Speaker 8: age twenty one, he sticks two to three throws in
- 38:36Speaker 8: front of an unbelievable chanting crowd, and that gave them
- 38:41Speaker 8: a chance to hold off the Nicoboxers. So that's what
- 38:45Speaker 8: happens in game will happen in game four? What team
- 38:47Speaker 8: can do things like that to go away. Now, as
- 38:50Speaker 8: far as mathematically, big difference being three to one if
- 38:54Speaker 8: you're the Knickerbockers up or the Spurs two to two.
- 38:57Speaker 8: Let's go home.
- 39:00Speaker 3: Gordi chez our guest here on the Sean O'Connell show
- 39:03Speaker 3: talking game three. In game four to come in this
- 39:07Speaker 3: NBA Finals series, a lot of us are looking now
- 39:10Speaker 3: not only need the team matchup, but how the stars
- 39:13Speaker 3: play and cancel one another out with their production. You've
- 39:17Speaker 3: got Jalen Brunson who is very obviously the lead dog
- 39:21Speaker 3: for this New York Knicks team. He had thirty two
- 39:23Speaker 3: points last night when Binyama had the exact same number
- 39:26Speaker 3: of points. So I guess on the score sheet they
- 39:28Speaker 3: did effectively cancel one another out there. If you're coaching
- 39:33Speaker 3: up Wemby for this game four versus how you're coaching
- 39:36Speaker 3: up Brunson for this game four, what does it look like?
- 39:39Speaker 8: Well, I'm from coaching up Brunson. Is that is Nickabocker, players, teammates,
- 39:43Speaker 8: allies have to score the ball. So last night, in
- 39:46Speaker 8: a very hard four game by the Knicks, the kel
- 39:50Speaker 8: Briggers and Landi Shammitt, who played well throughout the whole playoffs,
- 39:54Speaker 8: they can blind shoot from the field two to thirteen,
- 39:57Speaker 8: so they couldn't make a shot at any Towns in
- 40:00Speaker 8: the second half was passive. He wasn't involved offensively. Some
- 40:06Speaker 8: of it is his teammate's fault, most of it's his fault.
- 40:09Speaker 8: When you don't get the ball offensively, you've got to
- 40:11Speaker 8: demand it by velocity, cutting or crashing the offensive boards
- 40:17Speaker 8: or running the floor to get yourself going. You just
- 40:20Speaker 8: can't rely on your teammates to give you the ball
- 40:23Speaker 8: on time in space. And with that said, it was
- 40:26Speaker 8: still an unbelievable close game. That's how both teams are
- 40:30Speaker 8: going to view it, where if we do a certain
- 40:32Speaker 8: few things better, we can be victorious in the next game.
- 40:36Speaker 8: And so from the Spurs point of view is that
- 40:40Speaker 8: they've got to continue to be physical and get after
- 40:44Speaker 8: all the secondary players I just mentioned and make them
- 40:48Speaker 8: have to play basketball through physicality. So, as always, there's
- 40:54Speaker 8: nothing regular about the postseason. In the regular season, it's
- 40:58Speaker 8: a love fest. Boddy shoots three point shots, the world
- 41:02Speaker 8: is perfect. The metrics come about. If we take fifty
- 41:06Speaker 8: one to three point shots, we can win. When's the
- 41:08Speaker 8: last time showing the player basketball You heard about the metrics?
- 41:14Speaker 1: Well, I mean there's some people who are always obsessed
- 41:16Speaker 1: with the metrics.
- 41:17Speaker 5: That's not me though I know.
- 41:19Speaker 8: And the learning point about that is that there isn't
- 41:21Speaker 8: any It's all based on mono a mono, it shun
- 41:25Speaker 8: as always when someone puts a body on you on
- 41:28Speaker 8: it in a sporting event, how do you respond when
- 41:32Speaker 8: someone goes to you numbers on numbers? How do you respond?
- 41:36Speaker 8: Most winning players will respond by what tenacity but also
- 41:41Speaker 8: technique you need both. You just can't push together off
- 41:44Speaker 8: and give them a foarm shiver. That is a foul.
- 41:47Speaker 8: But you've got to have enough tenacity and courage to
- 41:51Speaker 8: get that guy off you within the framework of the
- 41:54Speaker 8: game and then keep your head about yourself. So usually
- 41:57Speaker 8: speaking in games four, five and six, is that the
- 42:01Speaker 8: team that plays the smartest and the most aggressive will
- 42:05Speaker 8: come out the victor. And that's what and that's the
- 42:08Speaker 8: great unknown is that you think you know, but you
- 42:11Speaker 8: don't know until you lace them up in that under court.
- 42:14Speaker 8: And you've got to be able to be played forward.
- 42:17Speaker 8: You can't miss a shot backwards and then let it
- 42:20Speaker 8: affect you the next three to four possession. You've got
- 42:23Speaker 8: to look at the viewpoint forward. And that's the mental
- 42:27Speaker 8: focus that is based on what your own personality. But Sean,
- 42:31Speaker 8: but also based on your teammates and what's the dynamics
- 42:35Speaker 8: of the court, and that makes it so interesting this
- 42:38Speaker 8: thing called the playoffs.
- 42:40Speaker 3: Okay, speaking of those team dynamics for a Jazz fan,
- 42:44Speaker 3: maybe a silver lining. You saw Jordan Clarkson, beloved jazz
- 42:48Speaker 3: Man for a time in his career. He got thirteen
- 42:52Speaker 3: minutes in Game three, He scored ten points, He had
- 42:54Speaker 3: a nice little contribution.
- 42:56Speaker 1: He did turn the.
- 42:57Speaker 3: Ball over a couple of times, but you know, grab
- 42:59Speaker 3: some rebounds, grabbed the steel. So I think on balance, right,
- 43:03Speaker 3: he ended up better than you know, gave more than
- 43:07Speaker 3: he got. It was plus eight on the night, and
- 43:10Speaker 3: that's that's good for thirteen minutes in a guy who
- 43:13Speaker 3: has obviously seen his role reduced over what the expectation
- 43:17Speaker 3: probably was. The reason I'm bringing that up is my
- 43:19Speaker 3: question is you just mentioned these team dynamics. You're all
- 43:24Speaker 3: the way into this playoff series. You're all the way
- 43:26Speaker 3: in to this run, and I imagine the roles that
- 43:31Speaker 3: these guys are going to play it. They're relatively well established.
- 43:34Speaker 3: You don't want to mess with it too much if
- 43:36Speaker 3: you're either of these coaches. But if you get a
- 43:39Speaker 3: Jordan Clarkson or a Landry Shammitt or whomever, right, Harrison
- 43:44Speaker 3: Barnes who all of a sudden comes off the bench
- 43:47Speaker 3: and does something really really nice. Does it change your
- 43:50Speaker 3: approach for Game four?
- 43:53Speaker 8: Yes, very much, because there's no hard feelings. This is
- 43:57Speaker 8: the NBA Finals and that as the hod hand is
- 44:01Speaker 8: going to play in that game. Jordan Clarkson messy four.
- 44:04Speaker 8: He's beloved by the jess fans. He was the sixth
- 44:07Speaker 8: Man of the Year back in twenty twenty one, which
- 44:09Speaker 8: seems such a long time ago. Yes, it is. That's
- 44:12Speaker 8: five years ago already. So Jordan Clarkson is a he's
- 44:15Speaker 8: a lightning rod. You put him in the game, and
- 44:18Speaker 8: last night he performed. He made those three point shots,
- 44:21Speaker 8: and he was aggressive offensively and he did a lot
- 44:24Speaker 8: of good things in that Also, by the way, he's
- 44:27Speaker 8: a native of San Antonio who's going back home. And
- 44:30Speaker 8: so these are all parts of the players how they think.
- 44:34Speaker 8: And I play in Game three, usually in the second quarter.
- 44:38Speaker 8: But the nifting to do they need to give Jellen
- 44:40Speaker 8: brunts in a mental health break. There's so much missed up. Again,
- 44:45Speaker 8: he's only six to two people, you know. Dhilan Harper
- 44:50Speaker 8: is six foot five and a half Stefan castled six
- 44:53Speaker 8: five and a half with a whole bunch of muscle
- 44:55Speaker 8: on him and Champeenny so in fantasy to Jellen Brunton,
- 45:00Speaker 8: and he needs some of his teammates to come in
- 45:02Speaker 8: the game and every once in a while have him
- 45:06Speaker 8: not be the point guard, play him off the ball
- 45:09Speaker 8: on the baseline so that not to advance the ball
- 45:11Speaker 8: against pressure defense, and then use them on the second
- 45:14Speaker 8: side to be more offensive minded. But also let him
- 45:19Speaker 8: go in space versus he's coming down the floor shown
- 45:22Speaker 8: and they're trapping him and they're bidying him, which is
- 45:25Speaker 8: perfectly legal in the playoffs, and mentally he's almost like
- 45:29Speaker 8: exhausted and a possession and in the last five seconds
- 45:32Speaker 8: he has to squad a chaos. It's so hard to
- 45:35Speaker 8: do that. He needs help him his teammates.
- 45:38Speaker 3: If you're giving the bulk of that responsibility to one teammate,
- 45:42Speaker 3: if you're saying, hey, you pull a guy aside after
- 45:45Speaker 3: a shoot around after practice, and you say, look, we're
- 45:48Speaker 3: going to give Brunson an extra three to four minutes
- 45:52Speaker 3: tomorrow night, and we're going to let him reset. We're
- 45:55Speaker 3: going to take a little stress off him, and that
- 45:57Speaker 3: means I need more from you.
- 45:59Speaker 1: Who are you giving the duty?
- 46:02Speaker 8: Annobi? Annobi's quiet? He got twenty eight last night. He
- 46:06Speaker 8: was quiet, and so nnob I would try to get
- 46:09Speaker 8: him every once in a while, besides not as the
- 46:11Speaker 8: primary ball handler, but on the first side of the floor,
- 46:15Speaker 8: almost like this, once in a while, get him in
- 46:17Speaker 8: a mid post up game where and then spread the
- 46:20Speaker 8: floor with the shooters they have and make n Beyonber
- 46:23Speaker 8: make a decision. Do I double team him in the
- 46:26Speaker 8: lane and then expose the back line as far as
- 46:30Speaker 8: a kickout pass, or do I let him back down
- 46:32Speaker 8: and I call it a shoulder to shoulder and then
- 46:35Speaker 8: elevate over the top. Because when because he can score
- 46:38Speaker 8: the ball, and that he is also a good three
- 46:41Speaker 8: point shooter, and he's an effective, clever velocity driver, and
- 46:46Speaker 8: so that would give brunts and again not all the time,
- 46:49Speaker 8: but would say three to five possessions a game, especially
- 46:53Speaker 8: in the fourth early fourth quarter. They give brunts and
- 46:56Speaker 8: the chance to write to recalibrate this thing so much,
- 47:00Speaker 8: the mental part of this. That's why these guys are
- 47:02Speaker 8: so amazing. Let's not forget Victor went beyond, but Sewan
- 47:05Speaker 8: is twenty two years old. Castle is twenty one. These
- 47:09Speaker 8: guys are so young as far as living on Earth,
- 47:13Speaker 8: and now they're trying to do something that's spectacular that
- 47:16Speaker 8: will be one for the ages. And that's how unique
- 47:20Speaker 8: this thing called the NBA Playoffs is. There's nothing like it.
- 47:24Speaker 8: I had the pleasure to be involved in coaching a
- 47:26Speaker 8: one hundred and forty nine playoff games, so I say,
- 47:29Speaker 8: with all sincerity firsthand, there's like nothing like this.
- 47:32Speaker 5: Seawan, Who's gonna win Game four.
- 47:39Speaker 8: Knicks, Knicks? And then Game five back in back in
- 47:45Speaker 8: San Antonio, and then Game six. I'll tell you, in
- 47:49Speaker 8: a few days.
- 47:51Speaker 3: We'll let we'll let it play out at least that far. Gordi,
- 47:54Speaker 3: what's your listener think about this?
- 47:56Speaker 8: That game about Michael Jordan? All right, so of this
- 48:00Speaker 8: thing called again the playoffs. So the lesson of this
- 48:05Speaker 8: happened show was nineteen ninety three, okay, nineteen ninety three,
- 48:10Speaker 8: where three straight playoffs as far as final games, the
- 48:16Speaker 8: visiting team won. So the last time it happened was
- 48:20Speaker 8: thirty three years ago. That was the iconic series with
- 48:23Speaker 8: the Phoenix Suns and Chicago Bulls. And that's what Jordan
- 48:28Speaker 8: scored fifty five points in a playoff game, which was
- 48:31Speaker 8: not a playoff high one time, Jordan scored fifty three
- 48:35Speaker 8: points in the Celtics in a playoff game. And so
- 48:38Speaker 8: both teams in that series, Charles Barkley versus Michael Jordan,
- 48:42Speaker 8: the visiting team won the first three games. So this
- 48:45Speaker 8: shows you right now that it really happens. But it's
- 48:48Speaker 8: happening right now in front of us with the Spurs
- 48:50Speaker 8: and the Nickelbockers.
- 48:54Speaker 1: What's your list today, Gordon?
- 48:56Speaker 8: The list today? Shawan, Again, this is about three three
- 49:00Speaker 8: point shooting, both for you and against you. The most
- 49:04Speaker 8: Korea made three point shots in NBA Finals history. So
- 49:10Speaker 8: it's only twelve players listed here. So most Korea made
- 49:14Speaker 8: three point shots in NBA Finals history. Remember now, most
- 49:18Speaker 8: of these three point shots are hotly contested by challenging
- 49:23Speaker 8: defense during the playoffs, and you're a three point shooter,
- 49:26Speaker 8: there's very few rhythm threes that trying to make you
- 49:29Speaker 8: make a shot in the contested hand, which is so remarkable.
- 49:33Speaker 8: Here we go eleventh all time, Michael Jordan and Mono Janobili.
- 49:38Speaker 8: They made forty two threes in NBA Finals. Number ten,
- 49:43Speaker 8: Kevin Durant made forty three threes NBA Finals, tied for eighth.
- 49:49Speaker 8: Kobe Bryant and Derek Fisher made forty eight threes NBA Finals.
- 49:54Speaker 8: Number seven. I had the privose to coach this guy.
- 49:57Speaker 8: Ray Allen made fifty five threes, including the one start
- 50:03Speaker 8: in twenty and fourteen where he backpedaled and made the
- 50:06Speaker 8: three for the Mammy Heat. Number six, Big shot Rob
- 50:10Speaker 8: Robert Horry has made fifty six final three point shots,
- 50:15Speaker 8: Number four all time. Both these guys were specialists. They
- 50:19Speaker 8: excelled in it. J R. Smith and Danny Green by
- 50:23Speaker 8: fifty nine three point shots. Number three. He plays for
- 50:27Speaker 8: the Lakers as we speak. He's been in ten NBA finals,
- 50:31Speaker 8: the last time was in the Bubble and twenty twenty
- 50:35Speaker 8: Lebron James. He has made one hundred and one three
- 50:37Speaker 8: point shots the last two sean. We all know very well.
- 50:42Speaker 8: They did it with the Golden State Warriors. They're called
- 50:45Speaker 8: the Splash Brothers. There you can make a discussion. Did
- 50:48Speaker 8: the best ever shooting duo history of basketball as a
- 50:53Speaker 8: as a two sum Klay Thompson's second old time he
- 50:56Speaker 8: made one hundred and six three point shots in a
- 50:59Speaker 8: fives and the number one player of all time to
- 51:02Speaker 8: make the most ever finals. Three is Steph Curry with
- 51:06Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty two to three point shots. That's
- 51:11Speaker 8: my list of today and at this Steph Curry one time.
- 51:14Speaker 8: Steph Curry made ninety three point shots in the finals
- 51:19Speaker 8: game against the Cleveland Cavaliers in twenty eighteen. So out
- 51:24Speaker 8: of that one fifty two he made one time, he
- 51:26Speaker 8: made nine against the Cats. Thus that's my list of today.
- 51:31Speaker 1: Nine is that the record in the finals?
- 51:34Speaker 9: Yes?
- 51:34Speaker 8: Nine? Yet yet nine?
- 51:36Speaker 1: Did Dan Marley hit eight one time in the list? Okay?
- 51:41Speaker 8: Yeah? It just shows you how how brilliant these guys are.
- 51:44Speaker 8: So the question is always this is you want to
- 51:46Speaker 8: shoot threes by out of the rhythm and that the
- 51:49Speaker 8: defense is so unbelievable fierce against you. You've got to
- 51:53Speaker 8: stay true to your form and it all starts with footwork.
- 51:56Speaker 8: I just described perfectly Klay Thompson and and Steph Curry
- 52:00Speaker 8: how this guy's really do it. There's nothing like it
- 52:03Speaker 8: as far as making rainbow freeze.
- 52:07Speaker 3: Gordia, you're the man. I always appreciate your time. We'll
- 52:09Speaker 3: see you on Thursday, all right, Thanks Sean, great stuff
- 52:13Speaker 3: as always from Gordychiaza reminder for all of you. Ron
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- 52:50Speaker 1: I got a pull up question for you next.
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- 53:05Speaker 2: An all right poll question up at ReOC sports on
- 53:29Speaker 2: the old tweet machine.
- 53:32Speaker 5: We got it.
- 53:33Speaker 3: We're gonna be doing polls now as we get into
- 53:35Speaker 3: July and August. Right, we do our over unders. We
- 53:40Speaker 3: do polls about our expectations for the upcoming college football season.
- 53:45Speaker 3: I might, in that case have to bite the bullet
- 53:47Speaker 3: and pay for Twitter, which drives me nuts to even consider.
- 53:50Speaker 3: Because man, we are getting heavily demonetized here. We are
- 53:54Speaker 3: buried on our poles. So help me out. Go vote
- 53:58Speaker 3: on the poll at ReOC Sports. You saw the report
- 54:01Speaker 3: that it is expected that Utah and under Armour will
- 54:06Speaker 3: terminate their agreement at the end of this year final
- 54:10Speaker 3: year of the contract not expected to renew. I think
- 54:15Speaker 3: that's great news for the University of Utah. I know
- 54:17Speaker 3: some of you out there are big Under Armour fans,
- 54:20Speaker 3: do not count me among you. I just don't like it.
- 54:23Speaker 3: I don't like their stuff. Their shoes are abysmally bad,
- 54:28Speaker 3: the cleats are bad. And there are some who are
- 54:32Speaker 3: even more conspiratorial than I who think that maybe the
- 54:37Speaker 3: under Armour cleat quality would have something to do with
- 54:40Speaker 3: some of the injury problems that you to has had
- 54:42Speaker 3: in recent years. So take that as you will, but
- 54:45Speaker 3: you're gonna have to find a new partner eight seven
- 54:49Speaker 3: seven three five three zero seven hundred Text me go
- 54:52Speaker 3: vote on the poll.
- 54:53Speaker 1: Who do you want to be the new partner? Right now?
- 54:57Speaker 3: The apparel partners possible in college football are Under Armour,
- 55:03Speaker 3: which you're already moving away from, so you're not gonna
- 55:05Speaker 3: re up with under Armour. Nike, while it is a
- 55:10Speaker 3: Nike affiliate, the Jordan brand is a distinct brand that
- 55:13Speaker 3: does its own distinct thing. So you can do Nike,
- 55:17Speaker 3: you can do Jordan, you can do Adidas, or you
- 55:21Speaker 3: could do New Balance. New Balance is an outfitter for
- 55:24Speaker 3: some teams, and the Big twelve is over indexed on
- 55:30Speaker 3: Nike Adidas for me. I like what we saw with
- 55:37Speaker 3: Adidas in the Arizona State uniforms when Adida said Notre
- 55:42Speaker 3: Dame We're partners. Notre Dame is the wrong university to
- 55:46Speaker 3: do anything experimental, anything different with uniforms. But if you
- 55:52Speaker 3: take that away, some of the Adidas designs on their
- 55:55Speaker 3: Shamrock series and stuff, like if it was anywhere else.
- 55:59Speaker 1: I probably would have been cooler with it.
- 56:03Speaker 3: New Balance is, Man, We're gonna have Jeff Schwartz on tomorrow.
- 56:06Speaker 3: New Balance is just like so foreign to me. I've
- 56:10Speaker 3: owned one pair of New Balance shoes and didn't like them,
- 56:13Speaker 3: so I can't. I know that they're heavier in the
- 56:17Speaker 3: basketball world now and they are trying to make their
- 56:21Speaker 3: foreign into college football. I feel like I'm the wrong
- 56:25Speaker 3: guy to answer my own poll from a taste standpoint,
- 56:28Speaker 3: because I'm just Nike. Just get the Nike stuff. There's
- 56:32Speaker 3: a lot of stuff out there. There's a lot of
- 56:35Speaker 3: reporting out there that if you're not a big time
- 56:38Speaker 3: flagships type school for Nike, if you're just kind of
- 56:42Speaker 3: one of their their rank and file partners, you're not
- 56:47Speaker 3: gonna get great treatment. There are a lot of schools who,
- 56:52Speaker 3: especially for the non revenue sports, are are flat out
- 56:55Speaker 3: unsatisfied and unhappy with what Nike has done for their
- 57:00Speaker 3: baseball team, for their softball team, for their track team,
- 57:03Speaker 3: for their swim team. Now, football does not get neglected,
- 57:07Speaker 3: and let's be honest, we're making these decisions based on football.
- 57:13Speaker 3: A lot of the the feedback I've gotten so far
- 57:16Speaker 3: as everyone's like, no, it's got to be Adidas.
- 57:18Speaker 1: I will see.
- 57:20Speaker 3: And then there's some other people who want this to
- 57:22Speaker 3: be a pure business decision and say, just whoever's going
- 57:26Speaker 3: to give you the most money because it's all about
- 57:27Speaker 3: money right now, You're absolutely right?
- 57:30Speaker 1: Is that what outro capital things?
- 57:32Speaker 3: By the way, they they might be the one well
- 57:34Speaker 3: when they're saying, hey, what's they're gonna have a say
- 57:37Speaker 3: in this? Presumably so Leaning is gonna come in? Yeah
- 57:42Speaker 3: that Leaning? Uh onta? I want like an old school brand.
- 57:48Speaker 3: I want Russell Athletic. Oh yeah, r I want you
- 57:53Speaker 3: know what Champion? Remember when Champion is there's I mean,
- 57:57Speaker 3: Champion still does shirts. Champion became ironically cool again. What
- 58:03Speaker 3: if we go like extra hipster? What if we do
- 58:05Speaker 3: like a car Heart? How about Starter? What dude, I
- 58:08Speaker 3: would love Starter, Tony Romo, the campus. I would love
- 58:13Speaker 3: Starter to be like, uh, your I don't want Sketchers,
- 58:17Speaker 3: keep sketchers away, all right. Sketchers thankfully doesn't make any
- 58:22Speaker 3: football stuff. Pony remember the old pony shoes and you
- 58:26Speaker 3: like occasionally see Pony in like a Ross dress for
- 58:30Speaker 3: last year.
- 58:31Speaker 5: Be like where did they find those?
- 58:32Speaker 1: About?
- 58:33Speaker 4: Uh?
- 58:37Speaker 3: In all seriousness the upfront, like, oh, we're gonna give
- 58:41Speaker 3: you x millions of apparel and X millions of dollars
- 58:44Speaker 3: to wear our apparel. Here's the thing that matters that
- 58:47Speaker 3: is not often considered. How much are you going to
- 58:51Speaker 3: sell of your stuff? Utah is not Oregon, it's not
- 59:00Speaker 3: a national brand. You're not gonna sell a ton of
- 59:04Speaker 3: like Utah football gear, no matter how well designed it
- 59:08Speaker 3: is at a Nike outlet in Orlando. But you're definitely
- 59:14Speaker 3: not gonna sell even in the Utah bookstore a bunch
- 59:17Speaker 3: of ugly new balance stuff. Okay, So part of what
- 59:21Speaker 3: you have to consider here is the merchandise sales and
- 59:26Speaker 3: your share of that profit. Nike and Jordan are obviously
- 59:35Speaker 3: the best case scenario for those Adidas. Again, if Adidas
- 59:40Speaker 3: can meet you in the middle by giving you more
- 59:43Speaker 3: upfront money and making sure you've got really cool like
- 59:46Speaker 3: you will find me wearing Adidas. If Utah ends up
- 59:51Speaker 3: as an Adida school. I can say this now that
- 59:56Speaker 3: the partnership is coming to an end. The only under
- 59:59Speaker 3: armor stuff, the only Utah under armour stuff that I wear,
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: is free. I just don't like under Armour. I don't
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: like their gear. I don't know why I'm a I'm
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: a brand hereter for Nike, I guess, and I'm not
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: proud of it. Just so you know, do you want
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: to hear the amount of Big twelve schools there are
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: Jordan brand?
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: Okay? Just just because you said over INNI is it
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: zero over index on Nike?
- 1:00:29Speaker 4: No?
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: Cincinnati is okay?
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: Is Cincinnati is Jordan Brand, and so is Houston really
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: I would.
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: I would not have said either those are Jordan Brand,
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: and then.
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: There are ten other schools that are Nike, so it
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: is very over index by Nike. If you want to
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: include Jordan Brand as part of the Nike family, which
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: they kind of are. You got twelve of the sixteen
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: Jordan Brand or n I I would say I voted
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: Jordan Brand on the poll because I think it's cool
- 1:01:10Speaker 3: and I think they have you know, Jordan makes good stuff.
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: I wouldn't hate Adidas. I don't know if you can
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: trust New Balance in the apparel world. But there's other
- 1:01:22Speaker 3: schools that are New Balance. I don't know. It's I'm
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: with you. It's a good decision to move away from
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: under armour, though, Hold on, who are the New Balance
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: schools in UH college football? I think Nebraska is one
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: of them. Could really could be, could be thinking of
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: someone else.
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: Let's see.
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: Boston College. Boston College whars New Balance? What a random partnership?
- 1:01:54Speaker 5: Dad is.
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: Apparently New Balance?
- 1:02:05Speaker 5: I could be.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe Nebraska isn't.
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: I think Nebraska is. Nebraska has been Adidas for a while.
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: They added it.
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: That's that's what it is. Maybe it's probably just the
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: ND in Nebraska.
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: Make making my mind. I think, I think.
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: I think Boston College is the only team that wears
- 1:02:22Speaker 3: new Balance in the in the FBS anyway, According to
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: this list I found, the other schools are like Bryant Heck, Yeah,
- 1:02:29Speaker 3: Merrimac Yeah, Merrimac, University of Maine, Go Bears, and Alaska Fairbanks. Okay,
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: so the only FBS football.
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: School its new Balance is Boston College.
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: Fun fact, the first time anybody in Utah saw under
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: Armour branding was under Armour was giving apparel to Southern
- 1:02:55Speaker 3: Utah University back in like two thousand and one. It
- 1:02:58Speaker 3: was before they were big, it was before they were anything.
- 1:03:03Speaker 3: So maybe that's new balance. They start with the small
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: the Alaska Fairbanks is of the world, they end up
- 1:03:09Speaker 3: at Boston College, and then Utah becomes their flagship.
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: I don't know, all right, I gotta take a quick
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: one here.
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: Kristin Peak is gonna join us to preview the upcoming
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: NBA Draft. You know the players, you know the teams
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: at the top. What does the conversation behind the scenes
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: look like?
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: Right now?
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: We talked to Kristin Peak. Next on the Sean O'Connell Show,
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: ESPN seven hundred ninety two FM.
- 1:03:32Speaker 7: Yeah, you're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show for the
- 1:03:38Speaker 7: Murdoch Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two
- 1:03:43Speaker 7: one a M.
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: We are two weeks away from the twenty twenty six NBAT.
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: Kristin Peake NBA dot Com NBA Insider Draft Insider joins
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: us now to talk about what's coming in these next
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: couple of weeks.
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: Kristin, Welcome back to the show.
- 1:04:14Speaker 5: How are you.
- 1:04:15Speaker 10: I'm great. This is the most wonderful time of the
- 1:04:18Speaker 10: year for me. I love I love this time of year,
- 1:04:21Speaker 10: especially with this class.
- 1:04:23Speaker 3: So Utah Jazz obviously sitting at number two and the
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: obvious players are in the conversation there, Aj debonsa Darren Peterson.
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: I guess for some people, Cam Boozer gets to put
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: his name in that conversation as well in.
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: These next two weeks.
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: We love the circus that is draft prognostication and the
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: pre draft process where everyone's trying to convince one another,
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: like we don't really like this guy. All this is
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: he looks like he's a no brainer. You got to
- 1:04:55Speaker 3: pick him, But did you know about the fasci itis
- 1:04:58Speaker 3: that he had seventy five years ago. Is there gonna
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: be a lot of that in this year's draft? Given
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: what we know about the top two players, especially and
- 1:05:08Speaker 3: the seemingly universal agreement that these guys are potential franchise changers,
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: I don't.
- 1:05:14Speaker 10: Think there's going to be any sort of surprise on
- 1:05:16Speaker 10: Draft night for that first year we're talking about add BONSA,
- 1:05:20Speaker 10: Darren Peterson, Cameron Boozer and Caleb Wilson. I don't think
- 1:05:23Speaker 10: anybody's going to be able to like just crack that
- 1:05:26Speaker 10: top four. But you know, would it surprise me if
- 1:05:30Speaker 10: AJ goes number one and DP goes number two to
- 1:05:35Speaker 10: the Jazz and then you know, the Grizzlies decided to
- 1:05:39Speaker 10: take Caleb Wilson over a Can Boozer, that would not
- 1:05:42Speaker 10: surprise me. But the fact that there has been no
- 1:05:46Speaker 10: solidified information, and mind you, this could come from last
- 1:05:49Speaker 10: year's kind of chicken dance, or you know the fact
- 1:05:53Speaker 10: that like the Washington Wizzer is wanted a Dailey and
- 1:05:58Speaker 10: they were the only team that he worked out for,
- 1:06:00Speaker 10: and the Utah Jazz that then said no, no, no,
- 1:06:03Speaker 10: we're going to take them regardless uh, depending, it doesn't
- 1:06:06Speaker 10: It doesn't even matter that he didn't work out for us.
- 1:06:09Speaker 10: I think there's that sort of, uh, not animosity, but
- 1:06:13Speaker 10: just sort of like we're we're Washington is going to
- 1:06:16Speaker 10: hold their cards close to their chest. And I've talked
- 1:06:19Speaker 10: to agents Camp several times and they have never once said, yes,
- 1:06:24Speaker 10: we have a scheduled workout this date with the Wizards.
- 1:06:27Speaker 10: We have a scheduled workout date with this with the Jazz,
- 1:06:31Speaker 10: And I don't know if it's just the Jazz waiting
- 1:06:34Speaker 10: until the last minute to bring AJ in. I think
- 1:06:37Speaker 10: Darren Peterson is going in this week if he hasn't
- 1:06:40Speaker 10: already been in to visit. But you know, it's just
- 1:06:44Speaker 10: one of those things where it's like a year later,
- 1:06:46Speaker 10: we're seeing the reversal effect of you know, what's going
- 1:06:50Speaker 10: to happen at number one? Is it going to be
- 1:06:52Speaker 10: a day or Darren Peterson?
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: If you had to put a percentage on AJ going
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: one to the Wizards, what what?
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: What is that number?
- 1:07:02Speaker 10: I think it's like eighty five to ninety percent. I mean,
- 1:07:04Speaker 10: he looked at his upscale in terms of what he
- 1:07:07Speaker 10: projects as a six nine six' ten two guard in
- 1:07:10Speaker 10: THE nba everyone wants To Cama. WING i think he's
- 1:07:13Speaker 10: going to end up being more of a two guard
- 1:07:15Speaker 10: in the, league and his mid range game is, unmatched
- 1:07:18Speaker 10: the way he can elevate over. DEFENDERS i think his
- 1:07:21Speaker 10: three point jumper is going to be something that's going
- 1:07:24Speaker 10: to come along as time. Progresses but this is a
- 1:07:27Speaker 10: guy he works so hard at his. Game he, is you,
- 1:07:31Speaker 10: know just a master in terms of shot, selection and
- 1:07:35Speaker 10: you cannot you cannot go past that projecting what he,
- 1:07:39Speaker 10: is seeing what he is at nineteen and projecting what
- 1:07:42Speaker 10: he's going to be at twenty.
- 1:07:43Speaker 3: Four how much of this pre draft time For Darren
- 1:07:48Speaker 3: peterson in his camp is like calming concerns over what
- 1:07:53Speaker 3: this last season was At kansas Because i'll be, honest
- 1:07:56Speaker 3: like we watched a lot of it because obviously our
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: local universities are in The big. Twelve AND i was, like,
- 1:08:01Speaker 3: man what why is this guy not? Available and then
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: the excuses or the explanation of, hey, yeah it's like
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: it was a creatine thing and this cramping.
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: THING i was like.
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: Creating come, on creating has been on the market for
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: one hundred. Years people have figured this stuff. OUT i,
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: MEAN i was a skeptic on all of, it but
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: that's sort of my. Nature so how much of the
- 1:08:22Speaker 3: process for him in his camp is just, saying, hey
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: we've got it all figured. Out you don't have to
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: worry about the inconsistency in THE nba that we saw At.
- 1:08:31Speaker 3: KANSAS i think the.
- 1:08:33Speaker 10: Fact that there's nothing been leaked in all thirty. Teams
- 1:08:36Speaker 10: remember all thirty teams have medical reports from the combine
- 1:08:40Speaker 10: that every player that, participated And Darren peterson participated in the,
- 1:08:44Speaker 10: combine they had to go THROUGH nba medicals and all
- 1:08:49Speaker 10: thirty teams got THESE nba. Medicals so the fact that
- 1:08:53Speaker 10: nothing has, leaked even from other teams, saying, oh it looks,
- 1:08:57Speaker 10: bad it Looks Darren peterson like, that that medical looks.
- 1:09:01Speaker 10: Bad the fact that nothing has leaked points To, aokay
- 1:09:06Speaker 10: everything is, fine everything is checking. Out he's going to
- 1:09:09Speaker 10: be just fine and. Healthy in THE, nba it was
- 1:09:12Speaker 10: a either a creatin with not not being hydrated properly
- 1:09:18Speaker 10: with a diet that forced these full body cramps that
- 1:09:23Speaker 10: then turned into a hamstring, issue which he would and
- 1:09:26Speaker 10: then he was sick with the flu for two, games
- 1:09:28Speaker 10: and it was just a perfect. STORM i think For
- 1:09:31Speaker 10: Darren peterson and WHAT i. Know i've said this several.
- 1:09:34Speaker 10: Times i'm a Big Darren peterson. Believer and WHAT i
- 1:09:38Speaker 10: know Of Darren peterson and WHAT i know him in
- 1:09:41Speaker 10: terms of a, competitor as a, teammate as in terms
- 1:09:44Speaker 10: of someone that loves the game of. Basketball if he
- 1:09:47Speaker 10: is not the number one pick And washington just surprises
- 1:09:50Speaker 10: everyone there AND dp is his, guy he is the clear,
- 1:09:54Speaker 10: CUT i think pick for The jazz at number. TWO
- 1:09:58Speaker 10: i think he slides in Alongside Chiante george very well
- 1:10:01Speaker 10: in the. Backcourt both of them love to be in the,
- 1:10:04Speaker 10: gym their ultra, competitors and they're going to be able
- 1:10:07Speaker 10: to build one build each other, up and feed off one.
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: Another this is an unfair question Because i'm asking you
- 1:10:14Speaker 3: to conduct a survey that you haven't had an opportunity to.
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: Conduct Or i'm asking you to read, minds which is even.
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: Worse but if we went and we talked to the you,
- 1:10:23Speaker 3: know the top the lottery pick type players in this,
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: draft and you, said, hey would you want to play
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: for The Utah, jazz how many of those guys are,
- 1:10:34Speaker 3: saying you, know truth, serum Anonymous. Pole they don't have
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: to worry about. It how many of them are, saying,
- 1:10:39Speaker 3: Yeah i'd like to go play for The Utah jazz
- 1:10:41Speaker 3: given what you know where we, are the reputation of the,
- 1:10:45Speaker 3: state but more, importantly what this franchise is doing right
- 1:10:48Speaker 3: now and the trades that they've, made AND i know
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: that these guys stay on board with that kind of.
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: Stuff how many guys do you think of the top
- 1:10:55Speaker 3: ten or fifteen want.
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: To play for The Utah jazz if they get that.
- 1:10:59Speaker 10: Outportunity, Okay i'm not just saying this BECAUSE i lived
- 1:11:03Speaker 10: In utah for three and a half, years and But
- 1:11:06Speaker 10: i'm saying this truly Because i've seen it Through Keyanta,
- 1:11:11Speaker 10: george through other people that The jazz have. DRAFTED i
- 1:11:14Speaker 10: Think Ryan, Smith Danny, Ainge Austin, age now everybody else
- 1:11:18Speaker 10: in the front office has done an incredible job of
- 1:11:22Speaker 10: tailoring to these players and changing a mindset of what
- 1:11:26Speaker 10: people the, outside the outside world, perceived you, know, Uh
- 1:11:31Speaker 10: Sulake city and The Utah jazz and the culture to.
- 1:11:34Speaker 10: BE i Think Ryan smith is a driving force to.
- 1:11:37Speaker 10: THAT i think you know. This uh he went and he,
- 1:11:41Speaker 10: Said he's, like, listen we bring players in And he's
- 1:11:44Speaker 10: brought they have brought a lot of players in AND
- 1:11:46Speaker 10: i credit that too in the sense, of, Like, okay,
- 1:11:50Speaker 10: yeah they have the number two, fakes they probably know
- 1:11:51Speaker 10: who they're going to. Draft they're still bringing In Mikel,
- 1:11:54Speaker 10: Brown they're still bringing In DARIUS. A, Cup they're still
- 1:11:56Speaker 10: bringing In cambus or they're still bringing in you, know different,
- 1:11:59Speaker 10: players BECAUSE i think they want to paint this photo
- 1:12:03Speaker 10: in this picture Of Salt Lake city of, like, no
- 1:12:06Speaker 10: in the, future we might not draft you with the
- 1:12:09Speaker 10: number two, pick but in the, future this is a
- 1:12:12Speaker 10: great place to, live and it IS i can attest to,
- 1:12:15Speaker 10: that LIKE i lived there for three and a half,
- 1:12:17Speaker 10: years AND i think that's the driving force of. It
- 1:12:19Speaker 10: so if you were to get IF i were to,
- 1:12:21Speaker 10: say you, know a percentage number, ONE i think a
- 1:12:25Speaker 10: lot of it has to do with playing. Time so
- 1:12:26Speaker 10: a lot of players would love to come to a
- 1:12:29Speaker 10: rebuild situation and the fact that the fans pack The
- 1:12:33Speaker 10: Delta center every single. Game that's what you want to play.
- 1:12:37Speaker 10: For SO i don't think it's as bad as people.
- 1:12:41Speaker 10: THINK i, MEAN i WOULD i don't, know seventy eight
- 1:12:44Speaker 10: percent of the lottery would love to be a part
- 1:12:48Speaker 10: of The jazz. Organization just knowing What austin And danny
- 1:12:52Speaker 10: did In boston and that they were the ones that
- 1:12:55Speaker 10: Drafted Dylan brown And Jason tatum and they won a.
- 1:12:59Speaker 10: Championship that, Matters that pedigree, matters and being in a small. Market,
- 1:13:04Speaker 10: listen you're going to get a little bit more. Freedom
- 1:13:07Speaker 10: you're not going to be under a microscope as much
- 1:13:10Speaker 10: as you are either In New, York, CHICAGO. La you
- 1:13:14Speaker 10: know the big that He's, miami AND i think players
- 1:13:18Speaker 10: want to be in that sort of.
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: Situation kristin peak for a few more minutes here on
- 1:13:24Speaker 3: The sean O'Connell, show previewing the UPCOMING Nba draft two
- 1:13:27Speaker 3: weeks from. Tonight how far do we get down this
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: first round before teams start worrying about fit and positionality
- 1:13:36Speaker 3: and things like. That is it the top four where
- 1:13:39Speaker 3: it's just let's grab the best player. Available where is
- 1:13:42Speaker 3: the threshold or teams start to nitpick on well does
- 1:13:46Speaker 3: he fit with our?
- 1:13:47Speaker 10: GUYS i think the draft really starts at five with The.
- 1:13:50Speaker 10: Clippers it will be very interesting to see what they.
- 1:13:53Speaker 4: Do they are.
- 1:13:54Speaker 10: Bringing they are bringing in, everybody AND i mean, everybody
- 1:13:58Speaker 10: especially this. Week they're bringing in all of the top.
- 1:14:00Speaker 10: Guards they're bringing In darius A, Cup Kingston, Flemings Michael
- 1:14:06Speaker 10: brown is meeting with, them, Uh Keaton, woggler and Also Brandon.
- 1:14:12Speaker 10: Burry's so they are bringing in. Everyone AND i don't
- 1:14:16Speaker 10: know if that's just like dangling a carrot to other
- 1:14:18Speaker 10: teams that really want a specific lead guard and they're, like,
- 1:14:22Speaker 10: hey we're going to bring them. In we can sply
- 1:14:24Speaker 10: them Along Sarius, garland we don't, care and it just
- 1:14:28Speaker 10: kind of you, know blowing that, smoke or if they
- 1:14:31Speaker 10: are actually interested in adding another piece to their. BACKCOURT i,
- 1:14:35Speaker 10: mean we look at The San Antonio. Spurs everybody thought
- 1:14:38Speaker 10: it was repetitive to Get Dylan harper last, year but
- 1:14:41Speaker 10: he ends up working very well With Steph castle And Iaron.
- 1:14:45Speaker 10: Fox SO i don't know if they're going to take
- 1:14:47Speaker 10: a page From San antonio and just be, like, yeah
- 1:14:49Speaker 10: we're going to draft the best guard available for. Us
- 1:14:53Speaker 10: it's never too much to have a you, know a
- 1:14:57Speaker 10: good thing in multiple you, know into piece in the back.
- 1:15:01Speaker 10: Court so WE i, THINK i, HONESTLY i think the
- 1:15:04Speaker 10: draft starts at, five and it'll be very very interesting
- 1:15:06Speaker 10: to see what The hawks do at, eight whether they
- 1:15:09Speaker 10: take best player, available or they go get someone like
- 1:15:13Speaker 10: A daimara Or Marez johnson or you, know, Yes lenborg
- 1:15:17Speaker 10: because they need that size in the front, court in
- 1:15:21Speaker 10: the front court alongside Of echo And. Kongu so those
- 1:15:25Speaker 10: are the two spots That i'm looking at five and.
- 1:15:26Speaker 3: Eight do you have a favorite player in this? Draft
- 1:15:30Speaker 3: someone you think is going to surprise?
- 1:15:31Speaker 10: Everyone DO i have a favorite player in this? Draft, well,
- 1:15:35Speaker 10: collectively this is my favorite draft in the last ten,
- 1:15:38Speaker 10: Years SO i am a proud bonus antie off court
- 1:15:42Speaker 10: to multiple multiple. Players DO i have a favorite player
- 1:15:46Speaker 10: THAT'S i. THINK i Think Christian anderson is going to
- 1:15:49Speaker 10: surprise a lot of, people especially where he's. DRAFTED i
- 1:15:51Speaker 10: Think cameron's car is going to surprise a lot of.
- 1:15:54Speaker 10: People he was by far the best player in the.
- 1:15:58Speaker 10: Day one of scrimmages at THE nba d combine his
- 1:16:00Speaker 10: draft ranges anywhere from late lottery to early. Twenties remember
- 1:16:05Speaker 10: he was At baylor this year with Tune, yasusu who
- 1:16:08Speaker 10: elected correctly.
- 1:16:10Speaker 4: To go back to.
- 1:16:10Speaker 10: School SO i, YEAH i at twenty five of these
- 1:16:16Speaker 10: players are my favorite. Players i'm a like Draft knight
- 1:16:20Speaker 10: is graduation for. Me i'm just Like i'm sitting there
- 1:16:23Speaker 10: right behind a green room And i'm just, like oh my,
- 1:16:26Speaker 10: Gosh i'm so proud of.
- 1:16:27Speaker 11: YOU i remember being in a in a back gym
- 1:16:30Speaker 11: In nebraska and No ac watching you Play like that's
- 1:16:35Speaker 11: that's the sort of emotion That i'm going to have Draft.
- 1:16:38Speaker 10: Knight but everything from now until, Then i'm very much you,
- 1:16:42Speaker 10: know my head is. Down i'm trying to get the
- 1:16:44Speaker 10: best intel and best information out from these players and their.
- 1:16:48Speaker 3: Agents i'd be remiss IF i didn't ask you about
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: the finals WHILE i have, You and the pessimist in
- 1:16:55Speaker 3: me says it kind of does it matter who you
- 1:16:57Speaker 3: draft if you're going to have to go up Against
- 1:17:00Speaker 3: Victor winmbinyama for the next next ten. Years but these
- 1:17:03Speaker 3: teams are going to do what they've got to do
- 1:17:05Speaker 3: to try to compete right now Spurs nick's fascinating. SERIES
- 1:17:10Speaker 3: a home team has yet to win three games. In
- 1:17:13Speaker 3: what do you think happens the rest of the?
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: WAY i.
- 1:17:17Speaker 10: LISTEN i love. COMPETITION i was happy to see San
- 1:17:21Speaker 10: antonio put it put together a full complete, game especially
- 1:17:25Speaker 10: on the, road especially IN. Msg it's very very hard
- 1:17:29Speaker 10: to win In Madison Square, gardens so to be able
- 1:17:32Speaker 10: to put a complete game Together victor When miyama look
- 1:17:36Speaker 10: was way more. Settled we saw better guard play and
- 1:17:40Speaker 10: better you, KNOW p AND r action with the guards
- 1:17:43Speaker 10: And victor and everybody. Else Julian champani was hitting threes
- 1:17:48Speaker 10: LIKE i love good, basketball AND i was happy to
- 1:17:51Speaker 10: see The spurs put together a complete. Game DO i
- 1:17:54Speaker 10: think they can pull it off against? This just stick
- 1:17:59Speaker 10: like The knicks looks so, settled And Jalen, brunson this
- 1:18:04Speaker 10: looks like he's on a mission and the shots that
- 1:18:07Speaker 10: he can get off is. Incredible and when we look
- 1:18:10Speaker 10: at his dress, SPECIFICALLY i Think Jalen brunson is doing
- 1:18:13Speaker 10: a lot of favors for players Like Darius, acaf For Christian,
- 1:18:16Speaker 10: anderson For Abuka, cory the smaller lead guards that everyone's,
- 1:18:21Speaker 10: like will CAN i make it in THE? Nba and everyone's, like,
- 1:18:24Speaker 10: Well Jalen brunson is leading his team to THE Nba,
- 1:18:26Speaker 10: Finals SO i, HONESTLY i think The knicks are going
- 1:18:30Speaker 10: to win it at some. Juncture BUT i was happy
- 1:18:33Speaker 10: to see The birds get a win and you, know
- 1:18:36Speaker 10: make it make it. Competitive no More nixon for let's
- 1:18:39Speaker 10: make this a, series and, YEAH i there's nothing more
- 1:18:43Speaker 10: as a as a true basketball fans that we.
- 1:18:45Speaker 3: Won, uh would it be more fun these next two
- 1:18:49Speaker 3: weeks if there was like some, oh is someone gonna trade?
- 1:18:52Speaker 6: Up?
- 1:18:52Speaker 3: Oh are The Utah jazz desperate to get Aj De?
- 1:18:56Speaker 3: Bonsa are you like you cool with the fact that
- 1:18:58Speaker 3: we're probably getting chalk for the first three or.
- 1:19:00Speaker 10: FOUR i think we're gonna get talked for the first.
- 1:19:03Speaker 10: Four LIKE i, said the draft starts at.
- 1:19:06Speaker 4: Five would it.
- 1:19:07Speaker 10: Surprise me if anybody made a move with The clippers at? Five?
- 1:19:11Speaker 10: No same With. BROOKLYN i Hear brooklyn is being very,
- 1:19:16Speaker 10: aggressive either trying to get into that top four because
- 1:19:19Speaker 10: they have so many, assets or you, know are they
- 1:19:23Speaker 10: are they just going to take whoever The clippers do
- 1:19:27Speaker 10: or do not take at? Six BUT i do, THINK
- 1:19:30Speaker 10: i do think this is a, draft especially because this
- 1:19:33Speaker 10: is a draft that a lot of teams have, Targeted
- 1:19:36Speaker 10: we're going to see a lot of talk in the
- 1:19:38Speaker 10: first top ten.
- 1:19:39Speaker 3: Picks, well we'll still be watching closely and hoping for
- 1:19:43Speaker 3: the best with the especially The Utah jazz. Outcome so
- 1:19:48Speaker 3: we'll hold our breath for the next couple of weeks
- 1:19:49Speaker 3: while you do all the hard.
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: Work thanks for joining, Us, christen.
- 1:19:53Speaker 10: Thanks for having me.
- 1:19:54Speaker 3: Anytime, CHRISTINPEAK nba dot com and many other. Places, OOPS,
- 1:20:01Speaker 3: hq et, cetera et. Cetera, look it's probably gonna Be Darren.
- 1:20:06Speaker 3: PETERSON I i'm always a fan of when we get
- 1:20:10Speaker 3: a little soap opera action and some unexpected things. Happen
- 1:20:14Speaker 3: and you, know in THE nfl this, offseason you've seen
- 1:20:16Speaker 3: all these big moves, made and maybe some of those
- 1:20:19Speaker 3: big moves give context to why teams drafted the way
- 1:20:23Speaker 3: that they. DRAFTED i think in THE, nba especially with
- 1:20:28Speaker 3: teams watching these, finals everyone's, like, man we have to
- 1:20:31Speaker 3: load up the arms. Race With Oklahoma city still right,
- 1:20:36Speaker 3: there with The knicks being what they, are but especially
- 1:20:39Speaker 3: With San antonio as young as they are already being
- 1:20:42Speaker 3: in the.
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: Finals.
- 1:20:43Speaker 5: Bruh.
- 1:20:44Speaker 3: Yikes here's here's what would be really funny out. COME. O,
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: see you Heard kristen allude to last year The jazz
- 1:20:53Speaker 3: taking The wizards, guy and now The wizards presumably have
- 1:20:56Speaker 3: The jazz this guy a year, later which is just.
- 1:21:00Speaker 3: Wild how that how that turned? Out what If danny
- 1:21:05Speaker 3: And Austin ange are able to get The wizards to
- 1:21:09Speaker 3: be way too in their head about that and actually
- 1:21:12Speaker 3: do a favorable trade in The jazz is. Favor, okay
- 1:21:16Speaker 3: to think that, HAPPENED i, mean how great would?
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: That you're Thinking.
- 1:21:18Speaker 3: Draft Day Kevin Kevin, Costner Austin inge Becomes Kevin costner
- 1:21:24Speaker 3: on Draft. Day but how funny would that be if
- 1:21:26Speaker 3: somehow beyond The jazz getting the presumed number one pick
- 1:21:32Speaker 3: and that working out in their favor that, way there's
- 1:21:34Speaker 3: somehow The jazz get more assets out of it because
- 1:21:37Speaker 3: they get because they're playing chess while The wizards are playing.
- 1:21:41Speaker 3: Checkers not gonna, happen but that would be a funny.
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- 1:23:38Speaker 3: Okay so here's a pair of statements from Brett Or.
- 1:23:40Speaker 3: Mark the first was from. Yesterday the ramifications of today's
- 1:23:46Speaker 3: ruling are significant and could have broad impacts across college.
- 1:23:49Speaker 3: Athletics thank, You Captain. Obvious that's, not by the, way
- 1:23:54Speaker 3: in the official. Quote creating great concern amongst. Membership i've
- 1:23:59Speaker 3: been consulting with our key stakeholders and have scheduled the
- 1:24:01Speaker 3: meeting with our conference ads and our executive board this.
- 1:24:04Speaker 3: Week we're also in touch With Charlie baker and anticipate
- 1:24:06Speaker 3: THE ncaa to appeal the order in the next twenty
- 1:24:09Speaker 3: four to forty eight. Hours we will continue to monitor
- 1:24:12Speaker 3: and evaluate the. Situation that's from yesterday when the ruling came. Down,
- 1:24:18Speaker 3: Also Charlie baker can't help you THE. Ncbla we already
- 1:24:22Speaker 3: figured that. Out don't Call Charlie. Baker Charlie baker is.
- 1:24:26Speaker 3: Useless He Charlie baker's statement, was this is why we
- 1:24:31Speaker 3: Need congress to fix this. Situation that Was that Was
- 1:24:34Speaker 3: Charlie baker in THE ncaa.
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: State find Me Charlie baker's.
- 1:24:37Speaker 3: Salary, James, PLEASE i want to know how much Money
- 1:24:40Speaker 3: Charlie baker is making to be completely, useless and it's
- 1:24:45Speaker 3: maybe not even by fault of his own, right because
- 1:24:48Speaker 3: the system that we all live in is just like
- 1:24:51Speaker 3: he had a job that at one point was a
- 1:24:53Speaker 3: very very very powerful job and then it was just like,
- 1:24:57Speaker 3: nope you know what it.
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: Is Charlie baker is The king Of.
- 1:25:01Speaker 3: England he doesn't actually have any legislative or Judicial he's
- 1:25:07Speaker 3: just a.
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: Figurehead he's just a.
- 1:25:08Speaker 3: Face and when and when the big ten and sec
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- 1:25:15Speaker 1: Beck it's like he's The king Of.
- 1:25:18Speaker 3: England the royal, family by the, way most of the
- 1:25:21Speaker 3: time when you put their face on a screen now everyone's, like,
- 1:25:24Speaker 3: bo we don't like the. Oligarchy we decided we don't
- 1:25:28Speaker 3: like royalty. Anymore Charlie, baker you've become. That so this
- 1:25:33Speaker 3: is the LATEST i could find Of Charlie baker's salary
- 1:25:37Speaker 3: was from a year, ago from the fiscal year twenty
- 1:25:41Speaker 3: four tax.
- 1:25:42Speaker 1: Return, okay, okay in.
- 1:25:46Speaker 3: Three point four million is what he made in twenty twenty,
- 1:25:50Speaker 3: three his first year on the, job two point six
- 1:25:53Speaker 3: million coming from base. Salary, okay, please somebody give me
- 1:25:58Speaker 3: a two and a half million dollar, job a three
- 1:26:01Speaker 3: and a half million dollar job where my whole job
- 1:26:05Speaker 3: is to just have people be like you don't know
- 1:26:07Speaker 3: what you're, doing and, like, WELL i have a great,
- 1:26:10Speaker 3: idea and Actually i'm put my foot down.
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: Here, kids there's gonna.
- 1:26:14Speaker 3: Be no more crossing the crosswalk when the red hand
- 1:26:18Speaker 3: is showing And i'm just, like shut up and.
- 1:26:21Speaker 1: Walks that's what this guy.
- 1:26:23Speaker 3: Does and every time they ask, him every time he's
- 1:26:26Speaker 3: asked about what what about? This what about this incredibly
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: huge court case, ruling he, says this is Why congress
- 1:26:35Speaker 3: needs to step.
- 1:26:36Speaker 1: In. Kids that's that's all He that's all he's been
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: able to.
- 1:26:40Speaker 3: DO i want to know if he even shows up
- 1:26:42Speaker 3: to his office, anymore if he's just on a golf,
- 1:26:44Speaker 3: course when he just and then he's, like oh, crap
- 1:26:47Speaker 3: look what they.
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: Did he gets.
- 1:26:48Speaker 3: It he gets a text message and then he just
- 1:26:51Speaker 3: speaks into his CHAT gpt assistant or, whatever and he's just, like,
- 1:26:55Speaker 3: uh draft to press release saying we need more help From,
- 1:26:58Speaker 3: congress thank. You but that's his whole, job dang. It
- 1:27:02Speaker 3: Brett Or mark don't Call Charlie. Baker, Okay but that's
- 1:27:05Speaker 3: Brett Or mark's statement from. Yesterday here's today's. Statement we
- 1:27:10Speaker 3: had a thoughtful of and productive conversation with our athletic directors.
- 1:27:13Speaker 3: Today as we continue to work through the broader implications
- 1:27:17Speaker 3: of this, situation many of our athletics directors voice their.
- 1:27:21Speaker 3: Opinions we will continue to have open an honest dialogue
- 1:27:23Speaker 3: amongst the, group and until there is something to, report
- 1:27:26Speaker 3: these conversations will remain within the. Conference the long and
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: short of that, is we don't really know what to
- 1:27:36Speaker 3: do with, this and by the, WAY.
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: I do know what you do with. THIS i have
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: the solution for.
- 1:27:45Speaker 3: Everybody just Play you're The big, Twelve you're not THE,
- 1:27:54Speaker 3: sec you're not The big. Ten just go play the,
- 1:27:58Speaker 3: games all. Right go play the games and Beat Texas,
- 1:28:03Speaker 3: tech all. Right go Beat Brendan, Soresby go Beat Cody.
- 1:28:11Speaker 3: Campbell and then when you, DO i want you to
- 1:28:16Speaker 3: rub it in their. Face don't take the high, road all.
- 1:28:19Speaker 3: RIGHT i want your team talking trash when they get
- 1:28:23Speaker 3: off the. BUS i want your fans throwing eggs at the.
- 1:28:27Speaker 3: Bus how about how about you allowed the fans to
- 1:28:31Speaker 3: throw tortillas at The texas. SIDE i WANT i want
- 1:28:37Speaker 3: the tortillas to be printed with betting slips when they're.
- 1:28:40Speaker 3: THROWN i want everybody to make it just miserable For.
- 1:28:46Speaker 3: Tech but don't try to hide from. It just play the,
- 1:28:50Speaker 3: games and you know, why because you have, to and
- 1:28:55Speaker 3: Because Texas tech has one hundred other guys on the
- 1:28:59Speaker 3: team that presumably didn't participate in any of this.
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: Tomfoolery just.
- 1:29:06Speaker 3: Play If Texas tech decides that the hill they want
- 1:29:10Speaker 3: to die on is to become the ultimate villain in
- 1:29:13Speaker 3: all of college, sports you don't have to contribute to.
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: That you don't have to help by winding about.
- 1:29:20Speaker 9: It just.
- 1:29:21Speaker 3: Play just go beat him By, You go beat him
- 1:29:25Speaker 3: in a championship, Game, Utah go beat him in a championship,
- 1:29:28Speaker 3: Game Arizona. State go beat him in a regular season, Matchup.
- 1:29:32Speaker 3: Arizona go beat.
- 1:29:33Speaker 5: Him just.
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: Play and when you, do and even if you, lose.
- 1:29:40Speaker 3: Don't take the high, road say, hey you know, What,
- 1:29:43Speaker 3: wow great game from soreersby four. Touchdowns he shouldn't be.
- 1:29:47Speaker 3: Playing thanks for coming to my ted. TALK i Am Kenny,
- 1:29:52Speaker 3: Dillingham see you. Later he shouldn't be. Playing Will hammon transfer, here,
- 1:29:58Speaker 3: like just take the blinders, off take the governor chip,
- 1:30:04Speaker 3: off let your mouth work faster than your. Brain If
- 1:30:09Speaker 3: Texas tech is going to decide that this is the
- 1:30:13Speaker 3: hill that they want to sacrifice their entire athletic department,
- 1:30:18Speaker 3: on that's what they get for being the new money,
- 1:30:20Speaker 3: millionaires for being the new kids on the block that
- 1:30:23Speaker 3: didn't have.
- 1:30:23Speaker 1: To earn it the way that everyone else had.
- 1:30:25Speaker 3: To all, right, fine this dude who's been part of
- 1:30:29Speaker 3: your program for five, minutes you want to let him
- 1:30:34Speaker 3: be the thing that sinks the? Ship, great go for.
- 1:30:37Speaker 1: It and in The Big.
- 1:30:39Speaker 3: TWELVE i know that Brett Or mark's got to be,
- 1:30:41Speaker 3: careful it's got to be, delicate.
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: But you just, say, hey we're not above the law
- 1:30:50Speaker 1: of the land here in The big.
- 1:30:51Speaker 3: Twelve and if the law of the land is going
- 1:30:56Speaker 3: to allow for this, crap then we'll just have to do.
- 1:30:58Speaker 1: It we'll just have to.
- 1:31:00Speaker 3: Watch did see you saw The Ross dellinger article about
- 1:31:06Speaker 3: lots Of big. Twelve you alluded to a lot of
- 1:31:08Speaker 3: the rumors around, it but lots of the eights and
- 1:31:11Speaker 3: The big, twelve including The Kansas state Ad Jean, taylor
- 1:31:15Speaker 3: who was named in the article The GEORGIA A d
- 1:31:19Speaker 3: who's also on The Instandway Oversight, committee, saying what we
- 1:31:25Speaker 3: got to find a way to not to have our
- 1:31:27Speaker 3: schools not, play be allowed to not Play Texas tech
- 1:31:31Speaker 3: in any, sports which is just such a drastic and unrealistic.
- 1:31:35Speaker 3: Move as much AS i would love, IT i feel
- 1:31:39Speaker 3: like that would be great justice for the, Situation it's
- 1:31:42Speaker 3: just that's not gonna.
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: Happen. Right here's the.
- 1:31:45Speaker 3: Thing Just Brendan sorsby is a good. Player Brendon sorsby
- 1:31:49Speaker 3: is not going to Make Texas tech better than what
- 1:31:55Speaker 3: they were last.
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: Year he's just Not.
- 1:31:57Speaker 3: Texas Texas tech's opportunity to make a national splash last
- 1:32:02Speaker 3: year ended in a whimper in The College Football.
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: Playoff it's not gonna be better this. Year it's.
- 1:32:08Speaker 3: Not Brandon soorsby is not going to be the answer for,
- 1:32:11Speaker 3: you not the way that you, think especially when you're
- 1:32:15Speaker 3: asking him to go out and play while he is
- 1:32:17Speaker 3: public enemy number one in college. Football nobody is that
- 1:32:24Speaker 3: immune to the external influences and. Voices there's not one,
- 1:32:28Speaker 3: athlete professional or otherwise who can be that hated and
- 1:32:33Speaker 3: go out and perform every single week.
- 1:32:35Speaker 1: Successfully it's just not going to.
- 1:32:37Speaker 3: Happen talk about irreparable damage to your mental, health by the,
- 1:32:41Speaker 3: way like he's not this is it's not gonna be.
- 1:32:44Speaker 3: Irreparable i'm saggerating, there but this is not gonna be
- 1:32:48Speaker 3: an environment that's gonna be conducive to good play for.
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: Him you would think the other thing about.
- 1:32:53Speaker 3: It utah clearly saw and exploited a big time week
- 1:33:00Speaker 3: and his passing ability last year when they beat him
- 1:33:03Speaker 3: forty to ten or whatever it was five to fourteen
- 1:33:09Speaker 3: last Year Rice Cycle. Stadium he is a very talented.
- 1:33:13Speaker 3: Quarterback he is not without his flaws as a. Player
- 1:33:17Speaker 3: he obviously has had some flaws come out here as
- 1:33:20Speaker 3: a human being as. Well like this, is this IS
- 1:33:25Speaker 3: i completely agree with. You this is Not Arch manning
- 1:33:29Speaker 3: starting For Texas. Tech this is this is someone way
- 1:33:33Speaker 3: lower level than that who isn't upgrade from their quarterback last.
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: Year Not Baron.
- 1:33:38Speaker 3: Morton but this the defense is not as, strong is
- 1:33:42Speaker 3: not as strong as a talent as it was last.
- 1:33:43Speaker 1: Year this team can be.
- 1:33:45Speaker 3: Beaten Give Texas tech exactly what they are asking. For
- 1:33:50Speaker 3: let them die on this, hill watch them wither on
- 1:33:54Speaker 3: the vine that they. Planted Let Cody campbell have to
- 1:33:58Speaker 3: go out there with every every single, article every, interview.
- 1:34:04Speaker 3: Everybody Joey, maguire guess how many times you're gonna have
- 1:34:07Speaker 3: to answer this question a big twelve media.
- 1:34:09Speaker 1: Day five. Hundred, well, no it's not gonna be five.
- 1:34:14Speaker 3: Hundred i'm only doing twenty interviews, wrong five hundred times
- 1:34:18Speaker 3: because when he comes to our, Table i'm gonna, say
- 1:34:22Speaker 3: do you really want to die on this? Hill i'm
- 1:34:24Speaker 3: gonna say, It, coach thanks for being. Here what do
- 1:34:27Speaker 3: you think of your team this? Year why is he
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: so important for Your he's never played it down for.
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: You why is this.
- 1:34:34Speaker 3: Young man so important to your efforts when you have
- 1:34:38Speaker 3: a proven commodity coming back from an, injury presumably in
- 1:34:41Speaker 3: week three or, four and you can tell him we
- 1:34:45Speaker 3: know better than most any team in the. Country how
- 1:34:47Speaker 3: good Will?
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: Hammer?
- 1:34:48Speaker 3: Actually if If I'M i was being like one hundred
- 1:34:52Speaker 3: percent serious about that rant in segment number, One If
- 1:34:55Speaker 3: I'm Will, HAMMOND i want out Of, Lubbock texas, yesterday
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: aggressively and. IMMEDIATELY i want gone from that. Mess If
- 1:35:07Speaker 3: i'm anyone not Named Brendan, SORESBY i am looking at
- 1:35:10Speaker 3: every authority figure in the building And i'm just going
- 1:35:14Speaker 3: to what are you guys. DOING i did not sign
- 1:35:18Speaker 3: up to be part of the evil empire in college.
- 1:35:21Speaker 3: FOOTBALL i did not sign up to be a poster
- 1:35:25Speaker 3: boy of what is wrong with the poison. System and
- 1:35:28Speaker 3: you have put me in this position BECAUSE i put
- 1:35:31Speaker 3: on A Texas Tech Red raider. Helmet every place THAT i,
- 1:35:35Speaker 3: GO i am going to get booed aggressively BECAUSE i
- 1:35:40Speaker 3: am associated with this. FARCE i, mean let them have
- 1:35:46Speaker 3: what they, Want Brett, Yormark big twelve athletic, Directors Let big,
- 1:35:51Speaker 3: twelve but Let Texas tech be exactly what they want
- 1:35:55Speaker 3: to be this. Year let them be the team that
- 1:35:58Speaker 3: everybody talks about for all the wrong. Reasons let them
- 1:36:03Speaker 3: be A kardashian do, it do, it let, Them let
- 1:36:08Speaker 3: them have it and say that that's exactly what your intent.
- 1:36:12Speaker 3: Is The Red, dashes not The Red. RAIDERS i, WOULD i.
- 1:36:17Speaker 3: WOULD i want, somebody and you know, WHAT i hope
- 1:36:20Speaker 3: IT'S i hope It's Mark. CARLIN i want somebody to
- 1:36:24Speaker 3: have the cojones in this conference to, say we know it's.
- 1:36:29Speaker 3: Crap Texas tech knows it's, crap but you know, What
- 1:36:33Speaker 3: we're gonna give them what they signed up for and
- 1:36:36Speaker 3: if we have an, opportunity we're gonna go out. There
- 1:36:38Speaker 3: we're gonna beat them on the football field the same.
- 1:36:40Speaker 1: Way in the.
- 1:36:41Speaker 3: Past we've had to beat teams with steroid users the same.
- 1:36:45Speaker 3: Way in the, past we've had to beat teams with
- 1:36:47Speaker 3: drug abusers the same. Way in the, past we've had
- 1:36:50Speaker 3: to play against teams who had academically ineligible players that
- 1:36:54Speaker 3: they were hiding and they were letting them play, anyway
- 1:36:57Speaker 3: the same way that we've had to go out there
- 1:36:58Speaker 3: and we've had to beat teams that had guys that
- 1:37:02Speaker 3: didn't belong.
- 1:37:03Speaker 1: There we're gonna go out there and we're gonna beat
- 1:37:05Speaker 1: these guys.
- 1:37:05Speaker 3: Too the, best, yeah the best revenge. Here the best
- 1:37:09Speaker 3: way to express your anger over this whole thing is
- 1:37:13Speaker 3: just to kick their, ass, Right AND i told you OFF.
- 1:37:18Speaker 3: Airroc on my drive, HERE i was, thinking you, KNOW
- 1:37:21Speaker 3: i was thinking about how can The big twelve AD's
- 1:37:25Speaker 3: and people like The GEORGIA Ad Josh Josh brooks make
- 1:37:30Speaker 3: good on their strong statements yesterday From Ross stellinger's article
- 1:37:36Speaker 3: and not find a way to not Play Texas tech
- 1:37:39Speaker 3: in any sports. Whatever And i'm, like the only way
- 1:37:41Speaker 3: to do it because The Big, twelve they could, say
- 1:37:45Speaker 3: you know, What we're gonna Rule brendan's Swartz bey. Ineligible
- 1:37:48Speaker 3: but then they're just gonna go back to The Honorable
- 1:37:51Speaker 3: Justice curry In Lubbock county and he's gonna, say, well,
- 1:37:55Speaker 3: okay here's a temporary injunction on The Big twelve then,
- 1:37:58Speaker 3: too and it's still two games. Ascension all you can
- 1:38:02Speaker 3: do in order to not Play Texas tech is all
- 1:38:04Speaker 3: they can do is forfeit those, games and Then Texas
- 1:38:07Speaker 3: tech is gonna be undefeated, anyway.
- 1:38:08Speaker 1: Which is the whole point of like What i'm saying.
- 1:38:10Speaker 3: Here it's just it's a fool's errand for anybody to
- 1:38:14Speaker 3: try to occupy some moral high ground with this whole.
- 1:38:17Speaker 3: Situation if this dumbass judge decided that he doesn't care
- 1:38:24Speaker 3: and is not trying to protect the integrity of college, sports,
- 1:38:28Speaker 3: fine let's just all admit there's no integrity in college,
- 1:38:31Speaker 3: sports there's no integrity in professional. Sports and let these
- 1:38:34Speaker 3: guys play And brendan, soresby good.
- 1:38:38Speaker 5: Luck.
- 1:38:38Speaker 3: Man do you know how many people are gonna be
- 1:38:41Speaker 3: putting a helmet on your? Kneecap do you know how
- 1:38:44Speaker 3: many teams are gonna Be gator rolling you at the
- 1:38:46Speaker 3: bottom of. Piles do you know how many targeting penalties
- 1:38:50Speaker 3: are gonna be incurred Against Texas tech? Football do you
- 1:38:53Speaker 3: how many times you're gonna enter concussion protocol this? Year
- 1:38:56Speaker 3: do you know how many fights your offensive line is
- 1:38:58Speaker 3: gonna get in trying to protect your.
- 1:39:00Speaker 1: Dumbass it's so, Ridiculous.
- 1:39:03Speaker 3: Texas Tech Cody campbell with your big money billionaire kind of,
- 1:39:08Speaker 3: LIKE i can't do anything, wrong. Dude you screwed this
- 1:39:12Speaker 3: up royally so. Badly you could have gone out and got.
- 1:39:18Speaker 3: Anyone you didn't do the proper due diligence on choosing
- 1:39:22Speaker 3: the guy From.
- 1:39:23Speaker 1: Cincinnati you. Failed you screwed it.
- 1:39:26Speaker 3: Up and instead of just admitting, crap you know, What
- 1:39:30Speaker 3: we're gonna have to fight through a couple of. Games
- 1:39:32Speaker 3: we're gonna have to Play Abilene christian without, Him we're
- 1:39:37Speaker 3: gonna have to play Against houston without. Him but we'll
- 1:39:41Speaker 3: Get Will hammond back sooner than. Later and he's a
- 1:39:44Speaker 3: hell of a player because he. Is instead of just being, like,
- 1:39:47Speaker 3: man this is, football this is how things, Are you're, like,
- 1:39:51Speaker 3: Well i've got five million DOLLARS i.
- 1:39:53Speaker 1: Need to fix this. PROBLEM i need to plug this.
- 1:39:55Speaker 3: Hole, okay cool, man this time you did it, wrong
- 1:39:58Speaker 3: and instead of just aything that you did it, wrong
- 1:40:01Speaker 3: you spent the money the wrong way and going to
- 1:40:03Speaker 3: get some of that money. Back probably you could have
- 1:40:05Speaker 3: done it. Legally you're, doubling, tripling quadrupling, down and you
- 1:40:10Speaker 3: are dragging the name and the reputation of your beloved
- 1:40:15Speaker 3: university further down than it. EVER i never could have
- 1:40:20Speaker 3: imagined That Texas tech would be this nationally, relevant and
- 1:40:24Speaker 3: it's for the exact wrong. Reason do you want to
- 1:40:29Speaker 3: know my favorite quote from all of the high and mighty,
- 1:40:34Speaker 3: talk and a lot of it's In Ross dellinger's article
- 1:40:36Speaker 3: on y'all He. Sports you all know what my favorite
- 1:40:38Speaker 3: quote is from? Yesterday george Ad Josh brooks also on
- 1:40:43Speaker 3: THE Ncaa Football Oversight. Committee if a state court wants
- 1:40:48Speaker 3: to dictate eligibility, rules.
- 1:40:50Speaker 1: They can play.
- 1:40:50Speaker 3: Themselves Throw Justice curry out. There he could be quarterback
- 1:40:58Speaker 3: For Texas.
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: Tech Good.
- 1:41:00Speaker 3: Georgia what are you talking, About? Georgia you've got one
- 1:41:03Speaker 3: hundred and eighty guys on the team that don't follow
- 1:41:05Speaker 3: the law LIKE.
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: I, mean and.
- 1:41:08Speaker 3: Listen just to be fair To, Josh. Brooks he feels
- 1:41:11Speaker 3: because he's on AN ncaa football, commit an IMPORTANT ncaa football,
- 1:41:15Speaker 3: committee he's feeling like he should be able to and
- 1:41:18Speaker 3: he probably is justified in feeling this. WAY i should
- 1:41:20Speaker 3: be able to talk about college football as a whole,
- 1:41:23Speaker 3: here representing all of college, football and not just because
- 1:41:27Speaker 3: he happens to be The GEORGIA. AD i feel like
- 1:41:29Speaker 3: that's more where this statement's coming. From but, yeah he's glass,
- 1:41:34Speaker 3: houses like you, said Like, georgia you have no you
- 1:41:36Speaker 3: have no high ground to stand.
- 1:41:37Speaker 1: On zero, six two.
- 1:41:39Speaker 3: Six it'd be great to see the Playoff committee take
- 1:41:41Speaker 3: a stand If Texas tech were to win The Big
- 1:41:43Speaker 3: twelve and The Playoff committee were to leave them out
- 1:41:45Speaker 3: of the. Playoffs can't, though you can't because guess what
- 1:41:48Speaker 3: will happen? There lawyers judges. Injunction oh, hey the appeal
- 1:41:53Speaker 3: is not gonna happen till Next, february just like this
- 1:41:56Speaker 3: one's not gonna happ until this Coming. February that you
- 1:41:59Speaker 3: can't if, ANYTHING i, MEAN i don't you can take
- 1:42:02Speaker 3: this beyond the sports. World and this is just the
- 1:42:05Speaker 3: exact problem with The american legal, system with the litigious
- 1:42:10Speaker 3: nature of our, Society, JAMES i will tell YOU i.
- 1:42:14Speaker 3: WILL i am, never for the rest of my, life
- 1:42:17Speaker 3: going to accept a consequence of my. Actions, EVER i
- 1:42:22Speaker 3: have learned through, sport through covering, sport that ANYTIME i
- 1:42:26Speaker 3: do SOMETHING i shouldn't, Do i'm just going to find
- 1:42:29Speaker 3: the right, judge find the right lawyer to get me
- 1:42:32Speaker 3: out of.
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: IT i am never gonna pay a parking.
- 1:42:35Speaker 3: Ticket i'm never gonna pay a, fine all right IF
- 1:42:38Speaker 3: i have, to IF i got a late fee at the,
- 1:42:42Speaker 3: Library oh, man, Temporary we're gonna string this bad boy.
- 1:42:46Speaker 1: Out this is The american. Way thank, You Brendan.
- 1:42:49Speaker 3: Soresby you want some more good, news so see the
- 1:42:53Speaker 3: appeals process for this probably not gonna be heard Till,
- 1:42:57Speaker 3: february correct, sports but also you want even more good,
- 1:43:00Speaker 3: news saying it. Facetiously The Texas court Of, appeals all
- 1:43:05Speaker 3: four justices Are Texas Tech Law school. Grants, okay here's the.
- 1:43:10Speaker 3: Thing If i'm A Texas Tech Law school, grad this
- 1:43:13Speaker 3: is The stanford, equation. Right this is where it's totally
- 1:43:17Speaker 3: different at places Like stanford that it is at places
- 1:43:20Speaker 3: Like Texas. Tech we're seeing In texas the good old
- 1:43:24Speaker 3: boys club In texas even if you go out Of Lubbock,
- 1:43:26Speaker 3: county you find a judge who knows a judge who
- 1:43:29Speaker 3: has a friend who plays at, poker.
- 1:43:30Speaker 1: Galy a decent law school At Texas.
- 1:43:33Speaker 3: Tech At, Judgemen, hey, man, like could you maybe do
- 1:43:36Speaker 3: us a solid and grant this temporary and. Junction we
- 1:43:39Speaker 3: can't do it because there's too much there's too many
- 1:43:42Speaker 3: pictures of me Wearing Texas tech. Gear AND i know
- 1:43:45Speaker 3: you're a, longhorn but your son married my. Daughter so
- 1:43:49Speaker 3: would it be okay if you granted this and there's
- 1:43:53Speaker 3: don't you worry about. It come, Out come out to the,
- 1:43:56Speaker 3: ranch and let's have a have a couple of days
- 1:43:59Speaker 3: worth shooting wild. Hogs and by the, way you're gonna
- 1:44:02Speaker 3: have to say hook them to me in. Exchange they're gonna,
- 1:44:06Speaker 3: like we'll be in the fantasy football league together next.
- 1:44:08Speaker 7: Year.
- 1:44:08Speaker 3: Whatever, Right so this big old boys club, thing IF
- 1:44:12Speaker 3: i was If i'm A Texas tech law school, grad
- 1:44:15Speaker 3: If i'm A Texas tech And i'm just, like look
- 1:44:18Speaker 3: what you've done to my. University you've made it so
- 1:44:21Speaker 3: everyone hates. Us for a quarterback who has never played
- 1:44:25Speaker 3: it down for, Us i'm probably going, like you, know
- 1:44:29Speaker 3: WHAT i would recuse myself from these. PROCEEDINGS i don't
- 1:44:32Speaker 3: want to be part of this appeals process. Either but
- 1:44:35Speaker 3: that's not how it works In. Texas these guys they
- 1:44:37Speaker 3: just they circle the, wagons they round it, up they
- 1:44:40Speaker 3: take care of their own and that's just the way things.
- 1:44:43Speaker 3: Are there's nothing you can so give them what they.
- 1:44:48Speaker 3: Want so just, say, okay, cool here it. Is and
- 1:44:52Speaker 3: by the, way when if you win The Big Twelve
- 1:44:56Speaker 3: conference and you go to the college football, playoff let's
- 1:44:59Speaker 3: say you in a college football. Playoff let's say you
- 1:45:04Speaker 3: win a couple of games in a college football. Playoff,
- 1:45:08Speaker 3: now guess what the conversation is. About it's not about
- 1:45:11Speaker 3: how good your football team, is and it's not about
- 1:45:13Speaker 3: how great your coaching, staff how great the job your
- 1:45:16Speaker 3: coaching staff. Did it's about. This it's about the fact
- 1:45:21Speaker 3: That Brendan sorosby should not be. Playing give them what they.
- 1:45:25Speaker 3: WANT i got no problem with you going out and
- 1:45:28Speaker 3: dying on this. Hill sometimes you just have to let
- 1:45:30Speaker 3: people do. That how many times do you as a
- 1:45:33Speaker 3: parent or did your parents do this to? You? Right
- 1:45:36Speaker 3: or it's just, like, hey don't do, that don't do,
- 1:45:39Speaker 3: that don't touch.
- 1:45:39Speaker 7: That.
- 1:45:40Speaker 3: Stove don't touch that, stove hey, son that stove is,
- 1:45:45Speaker 3: hot don't touch. It and then finally they're just, like all,
- 1:45:48Speaker 3: right just let him touch.
- 1:45:49Speaker 5: It he'll.
- 1:45:50Speaker 3: Learn and then you touch the, ah then you. Cry
- 1:45:55Speaker 3: Texas texts gonna be. Crying mark my, Words Texas tech
- 1:46:00Speaker 3: is going to regret all of. This every last dime
- 1:46:05Speaker 3: they spent On Brandon soresby and on defending this whole,
- 1:46:08Speaker 3: Thing they're gonna. REGRET i promise, YOU i know. This
- 1:46:16Speaker 3: we're gonna double up and guess. What on the other,
- 1:46:18Speaker 3: Side Ari tempkin is gonna have his thoughts and share them.
- 1:46:21Speaker 1: Here oh, wait that's at one.
- 1:46:25Speaker 3: Thirty you, know there's another thing THAT i wanted to
- 1:46:28Speaker 3: get to here in The Daily. Dump james put it
- 1:46:32Speaker 3: in his, update The Cleveland, browns who just executed one
- 1:46:36Speaker 3: of the blockbuster trades that we've seen in recent years
- 1:46:40Speaker 3: in THE. NFL Sendi, Miles Garrett la Getting Jared verse
- 1:46:44Speaker 3: and some picks. Back they got some pretty bad news
- 1:46:47Speaker 3: today and it, matters especially For Spencer. Fano tell you
- 1:46:54Speaker 3: what that. Is, next it's The sean O'Connell show ON
- 1:46:56Speaker 3: espn seven hundred and NINETY. Twoefm you were listening to
- 1:47:05Speaker 3: The sean O'Connell show from The Murdoch Hundai studio OF
- 1:47:09Speaker 3: espn seven hundred and ninety two to one a F.
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- 1:47:20Speaker 1: Girl you got Me thursday.
- 1:47:29Speaker 9: From you.
- 1:47:30Speaker 3: Girl we're gonna be giving away some tickets this in
- 1:47:36Speaker 3: this moment In, Hollywood undead are coming to the complex
- 1:47:39Speaker 3: On october. Twentieth we're gonna give away some tickets at
- 1:47:42Speaker 3: the end of this hour and about forty, Minutes Ari
- 1:47:47Speaker 3: tempkin's gonna join us in about twenty five. Minutes The
- 1:47:52Speaker 3: Cleveland browns sent a message to the ENTIRE nfl with
- 1:47:56Speaker 3: the trade where they got rid Of Miles.
- 1:47:58Speaker 1: Garrett they, said all, Right.
- 1:47:59Speaker 3: Rams we're going all in on These Super bowl hopes
- 1:48:02Speaker 3: in this next one maybe two year. Window while you
- 1:48:05Speaker 3: still Have Matthew, stafford and you've got this really talented
- 1:48:09Speaker 3: wide receiver, corps and you've Got trent, McDuffie and you've
- 1:48:12Speaker 3: got Maybe Aaron donald coming out of, retirement we'll, see
- 1:48:16Speaker 3: but most, importantly you've Got Miles, garrett now the best
- 1:48:19Speaker 3: pass rusher in the. League, great all, right we'll give
- 1:48:22Speaker 3: them to. You you can have him we want assets
- 1:48:25Speaker 3: for the. Future we're going in for what's. Next we're
- 1:48:30Speaker 3: gonna draft better than we've. Drafted we're gonna stockpile like
- 1:48:32Speaker 3: we've never. Stockpiled we're shoring up our offensive, line but
- 1:48:38Speaker 3: we're we're planning for the. Future and when they sent
- 1:48:43Speaker 3: that message to the, league unfortunately for The Cleveland, browns
- 1:48:47Speaker 3: one of their best players also got that. Message, now
- 1:48:51Speaker 3: it's not as sexy As Miles, garrett But Joel botonio.
- 1:48:55Speaker 1: Is a seven Time Pro.
- 1:48:56Speaker 3: Bowler he's tied With Miles garrett for Most Pro bowl
- 1:48:58Speaker 3: appearances or fourth Most Pro bowl appearances excuse, me In brown's.
- 1:49:02Speaker 1: History he is.
- 1:49:03Speaker 3: A highly respected. Veteran he also is thirty four years,
- 1:49:06Speaker 3: old and he announced today that he's retiring as their
- 1:49:09Speaker 3: starting left. Guard he was their best offensive player for
- 1:49:13Speaker 3: many many, years just Like Joe thomas was a staple
- 1:49:17Speaker 3: on the offensive. Line offensive line is the place where
- 1:49:20Speaker 3: offensive players can thrive In cleveland because it's like it's
- 1:49:24Speaker 3: just a meat and potatoes.
- 1:49:26Speaker 1: Position it's, like if you do your, job.
- 1:49:30Speaker 3: People can notice that even if everyone else around you
- 1:49:33Speaker 3: kind of, stinks and even if you don't have the right.
- 1:49:35Speaker 3: Quarterback so the Reason this is relevant In Salt Lake, City,
- 1:49:41Speaker 3: utah is because all of us are going to be
- 1:49:42Speaker 3: Watching Spencer fano's career with great, interest and this is
- 1:49:46Speaker 3: a guy that was going to BE i, think very
- 1:49:48Speaker 3: important in helping him develop as AN nfl.
- 1:49:51Speaker 1: Player one of the best things that can.
- 1:49:54Speaker 3: Happen to you as a young player in any, sport
- 1:49:57Speaker 3: as a young participant in any, sport is you have
- 1:50:00Speaker 3: a veteran who's been, there done that to kind of
- 1:50:02Speaker 3: take you under the wing and say this is how
- 1:50:05Speaker 3: you do.
- 1:50:05Speaker 1: It H, nope don't eat that. Anymore do this. Instead
- 1:50:09Speaker 1: don't do that, lift it's gonna wear down your. Body
- 1:50:12Speaker 1: do this one.
- 1:50:12Speaker 3: Instead how DO i, Know, well Because i'm in my
- 1:50:16Speaker 3: thirties And i've been doing it consistently for a decade plus.
- 1:50:19Speaker 3: Now i've been really good at. THIS i, mean we
- 1:50:21Speaker 3: Have Jeff schwartz is going to join us. Tomorrow he's
- 1:50:23Speaker 3: a good friend of. Mine he talked About Jordan gross
- 1:50:26Speaker 3: being that guy for. Him right as a seventh round draft,
- 1:50:31Speaker 3: picks someone who might not make a roster and you
- 1:50:34Speaker 3: have a first round draft pick who's been, there who's
- 1:50:37Speaker 3: a staple saying, no let's do it this. Way and
- 1:50:42Speaker 3: taking guys under his. Wing and that's why he's going
- 1:50:44Speaker 3: to be a great coach at The university Of. Utah
- 1:50:46Speaker 3: but that's what you need sometimes when you're a young,
- 1:50:50Speaker 3: guy and, Look Spencer fano will fill that, with you, know,
- 1:50:54Speaker 3: Coaching he'll he'll find a way to replace that influence
- 1:51:00Speaker 3: in his own. Career it's not like BUT toni was
- 1:51:02Speaker 3: the only veteran, Guy but, dang he's a lot better
- 1:51:04Speaker 3: than any other. Option, Yeah i'll be honest with, YOU
- 1:51:09Speaker 3: a lot of especially for football fans like, me a
- 1:51:13Speaker 3: lot of good offensive linemen end up not knowing who they,
- 1:51:17Speaker 3: are especially a. Guard we, know we tend to know
- 1:51:21Speaker 3: who the best tackles are right in the center and,
- 1:51:23Speaker 3: whatever but guards get kind of lost in the. SHUFFLE
- 1:51:27Speaker 3: i Saw Brown Star buttonio. RETIRING i saw the, headline went,
- 1:51:32Speaker 3: star why is this?
- 1:51:34Speaker 4: Guy?
- 1:51:34Speaker 3: Sorry THEN i looked at THEN i read the, article
- 1:51:37Speaker 3: and you, know saw his. Accolades you heard, me you,
- 1:51:40Speaker 3: know parroting them in the up in our updates. Today
- 1:51:43Speaker 3: seven Time pro. Bowler that's really, good two time first
- 1:51:46Speaker 3: Team All. Pro that puts you in rarefied. Air, yeah
- 1:51:50Speaker 3: that's a that's a, sneaky big. Loss for The Cleveland.
- 1:51:54Speaker 3: Browns and, yeah it could. Be it could be a
- 1:51:57Speaker 3: big loss personally For Miles. Garrett now here's what you.
- 1:52:00Speaker 3: Hope one what you, said the remaining veterans on the
- 1:52:04Speaker 3: offensive line can be a good mentor as good a
- 1:52:10Speaker 3: mentor As botonio might have been For Spencer. Final but
- 1:52:13Speaker 3: also you hope that guys Like botonio And Joe, thomas
- 1:52:18Speaker 3: legends on the offensive line recently for The Cleveland browns
- 1:52:21Speaker 3: are around The browns facility enough that he can pick
- 1:52:26Speaker 3: the brains of not just guys who have found a
- 1:52:29Speaker 3: way to survive and be good players on the offensive,
- 1:52:31Speaker 3: line but guys who Might Joe thomas is A hall Of,
- 1:52:34Speaker 3: Famer butotonio Has hall Of fame. Accolades he could end
- 1:52:39Speaker 3: up being A hall Of famer at some. Point hopefully
- 1:52:41Speaker 3: those guys are around enough that he can pick The
- 1:52:43Speaker 3: he can pick their brains, too even though they're not
- 1:52:45Speaker 3: on the team Former nevada Wolf. Pack another reason WHY
- 1:52:51Speaker 3: i didn't know who he. Was he did not go
- 1:52:52Speaker 3: to a notable. School, well, look and you could obviously
- 1:52:57Speaker 3: excel From Andy, wesley but actually these offensive LINE i,
- 1:53:01Speaker 3: mean it's just a workmanlike. Thing this is a, guy
- 1:53:04Speaker 3: by the, way also decorated for. Sportsmanship he got The Sportsmanship,
- 1:53:09Speaker 3: award The Rooney Sportsmanship. Award he also was The Browns
- 1:53:14Speaker 3: Walter Payton man of The. Year we've seen that with
- 1:53:16Speaker 3: Like Garrett bowles being The broncos. GUY i, mean it's
- 1:53:20Speaker 3: an impressive thing when your teammates recognize that you are
- 1:53:23Speaker 3: the one who is most active in the community and
- 1:53:27Speaker 3: the best leader to kind of influence things outside of
- 1:53:30Speaker 3: the football. World so it's a big loss for The browns,
- 1:53:33Speaker 3: organization especially as they're trying to get these young guys
- 1:53:35Speaker 3: to kind of shape into the right sort of. Thing
- 1:53:38Speaker 3: but this happens every year in, football where a team
- 1:53:41Speaker 3: will lose a guy and now that role passes to somebody, else.
- 1:53:45Speaker 3: RIGHT i Wish Joel botonio luck and good fortune and his.
- 1:53:50Speaker 3: Retirement but For Spencer, fonno And i'm looking at The
- 1:53:53Speaker 3: browns only through the lens of The utah players that
- 1:53:58Speaker 3: we are going to be rooting for in their, success
- 1:54:00Speaker 3: and so For Logan, fano but especially For Spencer, fono
- 1:54:04Speaker 3: who was going to be sharing that offensive line. Room that's,
- 1:54:06Speaker 3: unfortunate although not wholly. Unanticipated this was a guy who
- 1:54:11Speaker 3: had been contemplating, retirement and a lot of pro athletes
- 1:54:15Speaker 3: will tell you once you start thinking about, it it's
- 1:54:17Speaker 3: time to, retire, because especially in these contact, sports the combat,
- 1:54:23Speaker 3: sports these physical, sports if you're not all the way,
- 1:54:26Speaker 3: in if you're not willing to do the work every
- 1:54:28Speaker 3: single day to get ready for the next, game for
- 1:54:31Speaker 3: the next, competition then you're probably you, know that means
- 1:54:35Speaker 3: you're ready to, retire and there's nothing wrong with. It
- 1:54:38Speaker 3: it's just a bummer For Spencer fano because this is
- 1:54:40Speaker 3: a guy he could have learned a lot from and,
- 1:54:43Speaker 3: honestly the way that they where they drafted, him they
- 1:54:48Speaker 3: said they want him to be a franchise left. Tackle
- 1:54:51Speaker 3: he's gonna. Be he would have been playing next to this,
- 1:54:53Speaker 3: dude like right next to, Him, like, Yeah buttonio is
- 1:54:57Speaker 3: a left. Guard, yeah so, yeah he would have been
- 1:55:00Speaker 3: and they would have been shoulder to. Shoulder but at
- 1:55:02Speaker 3: the end of the, day it'll all work. Out just
- 1:55:05Speaker 3: an interesting aside as The browns move on From Miles
- 1:55:11Speaker 3: garrett who had an incredible career, there and, uh they
- 1:55:17Speaker 3: bring Back Jared verse and start investing in the. Future
- 1:55:22Speaker 3: part of that future will not Be Joel. Buttonio one
- 1:55:26Speaker 3: hundred and seventy eight, starts, which here's a fun, fact
- 1:55:32Speaker 3: the most by Any browns player since the franchise returned
- 1:55:35Speaker 3: To cleveland in nineteen ninety. Nine so more starts Than Joe. Thomas's,
- 1:55:40Speaker 3: Wow and that's like you hear his credentials and, accolades
- 1:55:47Speaker 3: you read them and you. Go it made me, go
- 1:55:50Speaker 3: how HAVE i not heard of this? Guy and it's
- 1:55:52Speaker 3: probably just because The browns have been? Bad and he's
- 1:55:54Speaker 3: not a left tackle like We i'd heard Of Joe,
- 1:55:58Speaker 3: thomas but you, know left guard's not quite as sexy a,
- 1:56:03Speaker 3: position and that's probably what it. Is but, like really good.
- 1:56:06Speaker 3: Player is wild that he's flown under the radar so
- 1:56:09Speaker 3: much for people like.
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: Me other news before we get To Ari.
- 1:56:15Speaker 3: Timkin of, course it is not JUST Nba final, season
- 1:56:20Speaker 3: it's Also Stanley Cup final. Season and right now The
- 1:56:23Speaker 3: Vegas knights are up two games to one on The Carolina.
- 1:56:27Speaker 3: Hurricanes you've Got game four, tonight And vegas seems to
- 1:56:36Speaker 3: be when you.
- 1:56:38Speaker 1: WATCH i.
- 1:56:38Speaker 3: HAVEN'T i was not able to watch the entirety of
- 1:56:42Speaker 3: The saturday. Game it feels like This vegas team is the,
- 1:56:50Speaker 3: better more, physical more prepared. Team it is also a team,
- 1:56:54Speaker 3: that with What Mitch marner is, DOING i think has
- 1:56:57Speaker 3: the best, player the best individual player in the.
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: Series.
- 1:57:01Speaker 3: Right one of the things we talked about with This
- 1:57:04Speaker 3: vegas team throughout the playoffs and the way that they
- 1:57:07Speaker 3: got over the hump on The Colorado, avalanche who were
- 1:57:11Speaker 3: the best team in the regular, season they just they're
- 1:57:16Speaker 3: getting big time contributions all the way down the, line
- 1:57:21Speaker 3: not just the top, line not just the second, line
- 1:57:23Speaker 3: not just your top. Pairing, Defensively you're getting contributions from,
- 1:57:27Speaker 3: everyone and even in these high scoring games where the
- 1:57:31Speaker 3: goaltenders are not really the factor that oftentimes you see
- 1:57:35Speaker 3: In Stanley cup finals or in deep in The Stanley cup,
- 1:57:38Speaker 3: playoffs where sometimes it really just comes down to like one,
- 1:57:42Speaker 3: goaltender one goalie Deciding i'm just going to become a
- 1:57:45Speaker 3: brick wall. Here i'm going to go win my team this.
- 1:57:48Speaker 3: Series i'm going to make sure that we end up
- 1:57:51Speaker 3: skating off with The. Cup you're not necessarily getting, that
- 1:57:55Speaker 3: AND i don't think either of these guys are truly
- 1:57:57Speaker 3: capable of.
- 1:57:57Speaker 1: That in the.
- 1:57:58Speaker 3: Net with respect to What heart has done For, vegas
- 1:58:02Speaker 3: and obviously he he did some really impressive things in
- 1:58:05Speaker 3: The utah, series he did some really impressive, things but
- 1:58:09Speaker 3: it's not. Dominance dominant performance after dominant performance after dominant,
- 1:58:14Speaker 3: performance AND i don't think that's really going to tell
- 1:58:17Speaker 3: the story. Here what you're getting instead is you're getting
- 1:58:20Speaker 3: even an overtime and double overtime. Games you're getting great,
- 1:58:26Speaker 3: minutes great shifts from guys that maybe you don't one
- 1:58:29Speaker 3: hundred percent expect you're going to be getting those great shifts.
- 1:58:32Speaker 1: From and then on top of, it you're.
- 1:58:36Speaker 3: Getting Mitch marner writing this incredible story for the. Season
- 1:58:41Speaker 3: he is going to end up winning the con. Smipe
- 1:58:43Speaker 3: he is going to end up. WINNING i, mean even
- 1:58:45Speaker 3: if they don't win this, series he has been the
- 1:58:47Speaker 3: most impressive playoff performer throughout This Stanley cup playoff in
- 1:58:52Speaker 3: twenty twenty, six it's.
- 1:58:54Speaker 1: All Uh connor.
- 1:58:55Speaker 3: McDavid i don't remember if it was last year or
- 1:58:58Speaker 3: the year, before but one of the two years The
- 1:59:00Speaker 3: oilers lost in back to back finals to The, panthers
- 1:59:04Speaker 3: he won the PLAYOFF mvp well and watching him skate
- 1:59:07Speaker 3: out to accept it is like one of the Most it's,
- 1:59:11Speaker 3: like it's one of the most obnoxious and painful things
- 1:59:13Speaker 3: for these, guys, right because he wants The.
- 1:59:15Speaker 1: Cup he doesn't want an individual.
- 1:59:17Speaker 3: Award and he's like begrudgingly out there while his teammates
- 1:59:22Speaker 3: are in the dressing room. Sobbing probably he's out there
- 1:59:26Speaker 3: standing and look. Deserved, Right you're not giving it to
- 1:59:30Speaker 3: the player on the losing team unless they absolutely undeniably deserve.
- 1:59:35Speaker 3: It and In condor McDavid's, case we watched him do
- 1:59:37Speaker 3: it and he was like almost apologetically accepting, it like
- 1:59:41Speaker 3: angry about, it. Begrudgingly BUT i, Think Mitch, MARTIN i
- 1:59:44Speaker 3: Think vegas is going to win this. Series still plenty
- 1:59:48Speaker 3: of hockey left to play right, now bakes is up
- 1:59:52Speaker 3: to one in the last, game by the, Way Mitch
- 1:59:54Speaker 3: marner fastest to a hat TRICK i believe In Stanley
- 1:59:58Speaker 3: cup final. History and then The Carolina hurricanes were like
- 2:00:03Speaker 3: the fastest to three goals on their, own of their
- 2:00:06Speaker 3: own and like a in a third period in a
- 2:00:09Speaker 3: very long, time if Not Stanley.
- 2:00:11Speaker 1: Cup, finally so.
- 2:00:12Speaker 3: They scored they were down four. Nothing oh, SEE i
- 2:00:16Speaker 3: know you know. This they're down for nothing going into
- 2:00:19Speaker 3: the third. Period everyone's, Like, Okay vegas is out Classing.
- 2:00:22Speaker 3: Carolina this is a. Bummer because the first two games
- 2:00:25Speaker 3: were so. Good and Then carolina gets three goals in
- 2:00:28Speaker 3: like ninety, seconds and it's, like, okay another Classic Stanley
- 2:00:33Speaker 3: cup final.
- 2:00:34Speaker 1: Game that ends up going to.
- 2:00:35Speaker 3: Overtime vegas wins, anyway just fastest to a hat, trick
- 2:00:39Speaker 3: and Then carolina also has their flurry of three straight
- 2:00:42Speaker 3: goals at some point in this. Game incredible scoreless first.
- 2:00:45Speaker 3: Period Tamas hurtle gets a power play goal halfway through
- 2:00:49Speaker 3: the second, period right then sixteen seconds, Later Mitch barner
- 2:00:57Speaker 3: scores his first. One less than four minutes after, that
- 2:01:03Speaker 3: he gets his next two and a half minutes after
- 2:01:07Speaker 3: that he gets his hat. Trick so from ten forty
- 2:01:12Speaker 3: two to sixteen fifty two was that six minutes and
- 2:01:16Speaker 3: ten seconds to score a hat trick in the Stand.
- 2:01:19Speaker 3: Cup now that's a four goal second period for anyone out.
- 2:01:23Speaker 3: There and, then of course in the third, Period carolina
- 2:01:28Speaker 3: gets four in a. Row and it was around the
- 2:01:30Speaker 3: ten minute mark when they started their scoring. Two If
- 2:01:33Speaker 3: i'm not, mistaken it was a seven seven oh three
- 2:01:35Speaker 3: seven minutes and then they and they scored almost the
- 2:01:39Speaker 3: equalizer was with less than two minutes remaining in the,
- 2:01:42Speaker 3: game again on a power Play that's WHY i, MEAN
- 2:01:47Speaker 3: I i THINK i agree with You. OCI i begrudgingly
- 2:01:51Speaker 3: Picked vegas to win this series beforehand Because i'd prefer
- 2:01:57Speaker 3: with the way The mammoths series he's turned, OUT i
- 2:02:01Speaker 3: Prefer vegas to, lose, right, respectfully but they just they
- 2:02:08Speaker 3: look so. Good but that being, Said carolina has has
- 2:02:12Speaker 3: been right there with them every game this. Series even
- 2:02:16Speaker 3: when they were down for nothing and looked like they
- 2:02:18Speaker 3: were gonna get blown out of the, building blown off the,
- 2:02:20Speaker 3: ice they ended up getting four goals in one period
- 2:02:24Speaker 3: and hanging tight for another period before before giving giving
- 2:02:29Speaker 3: up the game winning goal at the end of the
- 2:02:31Speaker 3: or in in uh double.
- 2:02:33Speaker 1: Overtime So carolin is very much not out of.
- 2:02:36Speaker 4: This.
- 2:02:37Speaker 3: UH i THINK i agree with, you Though vegas probably
- 2:02:40Speaker 3: ends up winning this. Series no idea what happens, tonight
- 2:02:43Speaker 3: because this series has gone the series has just been
- 2:02:46Speaker 3: bananas every.
- 2:02:47Speaker 1: Game and and.
- 2:02:49Speaker 3: By the, Way vegas they live for overtime, games so
- 2:02:57Speaker 3: this Is They've they've played plenty of overtime. Already this
- 2:02:59Speaker 3: was able Overtime game. THREE i almost wonder If torts
- 2:03:04Speaker 3: is just like it's, fine, guys like we'll just wear them,
- 2:03:07Speaker 3: Down we'll just wear them. DOWN i, mean it's very
- 2:03:10Speaker 3: much a strategy in like boxing and IN. Mma there's
- 2:03:13Speaker 3: combat sports and this in. Football you see it all the.
- 2:03:18Speaker 3: Time we're just like we're just gonna lean on. Them
- 2:03:20Speaker 3: we're just gonna grind on him for a.
- 2:03:21Speaker 1: While all.
- 2:03:22Speaker 3: RIGHT i know that this like outside zone inside power trap.
- 2:03:28Speaker 1: PLAY i know that this isn't sexy right, now but just.
- 2:03:31Speaker 3: Watch we're gonna get into the third, period and we're
- 2:03:36Speaker 3: gonna get in the third, quarter and all of a,
- 2:03:37Speaker 3: sudden those holes are gonna start to open up just
- 2:03:41Speaker 3: because they.
- 2:03:41Speaker 1: Can't they're just exhausted by our. Pressure.
- 2:03:44Speaker 3: RIGHT i Get torts on the, Phone james call him right,
- 2:03:48Speaker 3: now they you know WHAT i. Did get him on
- 2:03:51Speaker 3: the phone and he, SAID i have nothing to. Say
- 2:03:53Speaker 3: and by the, way you can't give him all the,
- 2:03:55Speaker 3: CREDIT i. Guess But vegas played a bunch that they
- 2:03:57Speaker 3: played a lot of overtime games this. Season, yeah just
- 2:04:03Speaker 3: to add some more context to vegas list or, Overtime
- 2:04:07Speaker 3: carolina has two in these. Playoffs they were undefeated up
- 2:04:10Speaker 3: until last game in. Overtime they Handed vegas their first
- 2:04:16Speaker 3: play overtime loss in these playoffs In game, Two so
- 2:04:21Speaker 3: both of these teams seem to thrive in those, long
- 2:04:26Speaker 3: overtime type, games which is why this would not surprise
- 2:04:29Speaker 3: me if it ends up going seven And vegas Wins
- 2:04:34Speaker 3: game seven.
- 2:04:34Speaker 1: And overtime maybe In, CAROLINA i got to look. UP
- 2:04:37Speaker 1: i want to.
- 2:04:38Speaker 3: Know and this is one of the joys of having
- 2:04:41Speaker 3: our OWN nhl team right, now Because i've never paid
- 2:04:44Speaker 3: attention at the level that we're paying attention. Now BUT
- 2:04:47Speaker 3: i would love to know the last time a team
- 2:04:50Speaker 3: with less than forty regular season wins.
- 2:04:54Speaker 1: Won A Stanley.
- 2:04:55Speaker 3: Cup when you just talk about the the win, column.
- 2:05:03Speaker 1: There ARE.
- 2:05:06Speaker 3: I mean half the league had a better regular season Than.
- 2:05:09Speaker 3: Vegas i'm looking at The Eastern conference at in The
- 2:05:18Speaker 3: Atlantic division, alone everyone except for The Toronto Maple leafs
- 2:05:25Speaker 3: had more regular season wins Than. Vegas seven of eight
- 2:05:34Speaker 3: teams in The Eastern Conference Atlantic division had more regular
- 2:05:38Speaker 3: season wins In. Vegas seven of eight teams in The
- 2:05:43Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Metro. Division there are fourteen teams in The
- 2:05:48Speaker 3: Eastern conference that had more regular season wins regulation wins.
- 2:05:56Speaker 1: Than vegas.
- 2:05:56Speaker 3: Did in The, west The mammoth had more forty, three
- 2:06:04Speaker 3: The Minnesota wild forty, six The Dallas stars had fifty.
- 2:06:08Speaker 3: Wins The Colorado avalanche best regular season in the. League
- 2:06:12Speaker 3: they had fifty five wins on the. Year in their
- 2:06:17Speaker 3: Own Pacific, division The Edmonton oilers The Anaheim ducks had
- 2:06:25Speaker 3: more wins Than vegas is thirty. Nine San, jose a
- 2:06:29Speaker 3: team on the rise certainly but far from special yet
- 2:06:34Speaker 3: also had thirty nine regular season.
- 2:06:35Speaker 1: Wins so there are.
- 2:06:38Speaker 3: What was that eighteen teams, now excuse, me twenty twenty
- 2:06:45Speaker 3: one teams in THE nhl this year had more regular
- 2:06:51Speaker 3: season victories than The Vegas Golden, knights who might end
- 2:06:54Speaker 3: up hoisting the.
- 2:06:55Speaker 1: Cup that's.
- 2:06:57Speaker 3: Bananas they are just on fire in these, playoffs and
- 2:07:03Speaker 3: what what a Case John tortorella is gonna make for
- 2:07:06Speaker 3: himself if that's how it, Finishes if that's how it plays.
- 2:07:10Speaker 3: OUT i was talking To bill about this off the.
- 2:07:13Speaker 3: Air he filled, in of, course a special edition of
- 2:07:17Speaker 3: the show On, friday Didn't it didn't end up making
- 2:07:20Speaker 3: it to the, Air BUT i was talking about, this
- 2:07:22Speaker 3: talking to him about this off the Air. Vegas If
- 2:07:25Speaker 3: i'm remembering some of the reports, correctly they have they
- 2:07:31Speaker 3: have a plan in place for succeeding the coach that
- 2:07:35Speaker 3: they they. Fired Their Stanley cup winning, coach and then
- 2:07:38Speaker 3: before they Hired John, tortorella they just they wanted a
- 2:07:42Speaker 3: guy with the experience Like John tortorella to guide him
- 2:07:45Speaker 3: through what they thought could still be a successful playoff.
- 2:07:48Speaker 3: Run and they were they were obviously. CORRECT i feel
- 2:07:53Speaker 3: like with how Combative John tortorella can, be not just
- 2:07:57Speaker 3: towards the. Media And i've learned a ton About torterella
- 2:08:00Speaker 3: this playoff. RUN i didn't know much about him till
- 2:08:01Speaker 3: this playoff. Run i'll preface What i'm saying with, that
- 2:08:05Speaker 3: but What i've learned about, him he's not just combative
- 2:08:07Speaker 3: towards the. Media he can kind of wear on front
- 2:08:11Speaker 3: offices and players over.
- 2:08:13Speaker 1: TIME i, wonder even if they.
- 2:08:16Speaker 3: Win The, cup oh, see if it's the right thing
- 2:08:18Speaker 3: For vegas to keep him around as head, coach if
- 2:08:20Speaker 3: they felt, like if they felt good about a succession
- 2:08:23Speaker 3: plan with someone, else why when they let go of
- 2:08:28Speaker 3: their other coach at the end.
- 2:08:29Speaker 1: Of the regular.
- 2:08:29Speaker 3: Season now, realistically of course they're going to keep him,
- 2:08:33Speaker 3: On BUT i just wonder how short of a deal
- 2:08:36Speaker 3: that might be one or two year. Deal don't know
- 2:08:40Speaker 3: if it's in their best interest for him to keep
- 2:08:42Speaker 3: towards around any longer than, that just because he is
- 2:08:45Speaker 3: a tough. Personality well it's The Jim harbaugh. Thing, yeah
- 2:08:49Speaker 3: it's exactly Like Jim harbaugh in pro football wears on
- 2:08:55Speaker 3: guys too. Quickly now in college you can sort of
- 2:09:00Speaker 3: down and handle it for three or four years and
- 2:09:02Speaker 3: then your eligibility's gone.
- 2:09:03Speaker 5: And you're out.
- 2:09:04Speaker 3: Right and even then it's debatable because he had to
- 2:09:06Speaker 3: cheat to win A Michigan but in THE nfl it
- 2:09:10Speaker 3: was well publicized, that like the forty nine, ers players
- 2:09:13Speaker 3: loved him in year, one and then in year two
- 2:09:16Speaker 3: they still liked, him and then in year three they
- 2:09:18Speaker 3: were just like.
- 2:09:19Speaker 1: Enough so maybe that's Torts in THE.
- 2:09:25Speaker 3: Nhl by the, way two thousand it looks like two
- 2:09:30Speaker 3: thousand and two was the last time that we saw
- 2:09:35Speaker 3: A Stanley cup winner with fewer than forty regular season.
- 2:09:39Speaker 3: Wins so that Was Red wings right there was. That
- 2:09:45Speaker 3: it was The Detroit Red, WINGS i. Believe also the
- 2:09:49Speaker 3: second to last time this happened was also The Detroit
- 2:09:52Speaker 3: Red wings in the ninety seven ninety eight. Series so
- 2:09:58Speaker 3: something in the water there In. Detroit they play well
- 2:10:01Speaker 3: in their history in the, playoffs even if they have
- 2:10:03Speaker 3: a great regular. Season guess Who detroit beat in two
- 2:10:06Speaker 3: thousand and? Two was It? Carolina?
- 2:10:11Speaker 1: Correct oh, Wow, carolina what's wrong with? You you can't beat
- 2:10:14Speaker 1: teams with thirty nine regular season?
- 2:10:16Speaker 3: Wins all, right fascinating. Stuff we'll take a break. Here
- 2:10:23Speaker 3: we'll come back With Ari, Tempkin big Twelve. Radio he's
- 2:10:27Speaker 3: gonna have some thoughts On Texas tech And Brendan soresby
- 2:10:32Speaker 3: being eligible thanks to an injunction granted by A texas.
- 2:10:36Speaker 3: Judge it's A sean O'Connell show ON espn seven hundred
- 2:10:39Speaker 3: and ninety tem.
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- 2:10:56Speaker 7: hundred ninety.
- 2:10:57Speaker 12: One half, Am, oh welcome back to The sean O'Connell.
- 2:11:17Speaker 3: Show welcome in our good, Friend Ari, Timkin big Twelve,
- 2:11:20Speaker 3: Today tune in, radio all Ri.
- 2:11:22Speaker 1: Welcome how are, you? Sir i'm?
- 2:11:25Speaker 4: Great what's? Upposed? See how you? Been you?
- 2:11:26Speaker 1: Know really? Good really.
- 2:11:28Speaker 3: Good excited that we'll be on a more regular conversation basis.
- 2:11:32Speaker 1: Again with football approaching, rapidly.
- 2:11:35Speaker 3: Anything interesting happening in the big twelve world these.
- 2:11:37Speaker 4: Days, NO i can't think of anything. REALLY i planned
- 2:11:45Speaker 4: my summer vacation very well BECAUSE i was In maine
- 2:11:47Speaker 4: for five days AND i was on a flight yesterday coming,
- 2:11:51Speaker 4: home so really worked out for me in terms of
- 2:11:54Speaker 4: this news.
- 2:11:54Speaker 3: Cycle so, Obviously Brendan soresby granted an injunction that will
- 2:11:59Speaker 3: allow him to be eligible for this year to play
- 2:12:02Speaker 3: a quarterback At Texas. Tech And i've ridden this roller
- 2:12:06Speaker 3: coaster of like incredulous outrage to. Acceptance i've gone through
- 2:12:11Speaker 3: all the stages of, grief and Now i've settled ari.
- 2:12:16Speaker 3: On you know, WHAT i, ACTUALLY i actually want everyone
- 2:12:20Speaker 3: to now Give Texas tech exactly what they're asking. FOR
- 2:12:23Speaker 3: i Want Texas tech to be allowed to play their
- 2:12:26Speaker 3: full schedule With Brendan soresby as their starting, quarterback even
- 2:12:32Speaker 3: if he maintains that position When Will hammon comes. Back
- 2:12:35Speaker 3: and my only demand is that they they be forced
- 2:12:38Speaker 3: to taste the medicine that they're giving.
- 2:12:41Speaker 5: THEMSELVES i don't.
- 2:12:42Speaker 1: Want them to be.
- 2:12:44Speaker 3: PROTECTED i don't want the referees to give go into
- 2:12:47Speaker 3: every opposing locker room and, say, hey just so you,
- 2:12:50Speaker 3: know we're gonna give you, know we're watching extra.
- 2:12:53Speaker 1: Close if you guys are going to be cheap Shotting
- 2:12:54Speaker 1: brendan stores.
- 2:12:55Speaker 3: B i don't want anyone, saying, hey, GUYS i don't
- 2:12:59Speaker 3: want any bad words coming from the stands If Texas
- 2:13:02Speaker 3: tech is playing at your. Stadium Like i've settled, ON
- 2:13:05Speaker 3: i Want Texas tech to be given the opportunity to
- 2:13:09Speaker 3: bathe in this muck that they decided to rake up
- 2:13:12Speaker 3: for all of.
- 2:13:13Speaker 9: Us.
- 2:13:15Speaker 4: YEAH i, mean this is their. Bed now they've got
- 2:13:17Speaker 4: to lie in, it, Right. Yeah and you, know, Look
- 2:13:21Speaker 4: I'm i'm probably far more on the other side than most.
- 2:13:25Speaker 4: People you. KNOW i think we live in a day
- 2:13:28Speaker 4: and age in college football where nobody's following the, rules
- 2:13:32Speaker 4: and that obviously has been the case for a long,
- 2:13:33Speaker 4: time but now they're they're they're way more wide open about.
- 2:13:37Speaker 4: IT i, mean even so much as a few weeks,
- 2:13:39Speaker 4: ago you have you, know the athletic director At georgia
- 2:13:43Speaker 4: and the president Of georgia basically saying, like, yeah we
- 2:13:45Speaker 4: made these promises to commitments in the transfer, portal and
- 2:13:49Speaker 4: since THE csc has basically declined to say these are
- 2:13:52Speaker 4: not legitimate and il, deals we're still.
- 2:13:54Speaker 9: Gonna go ahead and do these and not really care
- 2:13:57Speaker 9: what you.
- 2:13:57Speaker 4: Think and, GRANTED i get these are two different, things
- 2:13:59Speaker 4: AND i get to the word gambling in sports creates,
- 2:14:03Speaker 4: these you, know horribly negative. Emotions but at the end
- 2:14:06Speaker 4: of the, day right, now nobody is following any rules
- 2:14:09Speaker 4: in college football because as far as THE nc doablea's
- 2:14:12Speaker 4: ability to, govern there are no, rules and so this
- 2:14:15Speaker 4: is the. Standard and, LOOK i, MEAN i think there
- 2:14:18Speaker 4: are probably a lot of people that agree with you
- 2:14:20Speaker 4: in terms of, like all, right take your medicine now
- 2:14:22Speaker 4: and let's see how good you. Are and For, soresby you,
- 2:14:25Speaker 4: Know i've been thinking THROUGHOUT oc THAT i thought that
- 2:14:27Speaker 4: this was going to be the end result. Here i'm
- 2:14:31Speaker 4: not surprised at. All said for months, now as we've
- 2:14:35Speaker 4: been doing our off season preyears That i've included soresbying on,
- 2:14:38Speaker 4: it AND i think he's going to, play AND i maintained,
- 2:14:40Speaker 4: That BUT i also don't know that they or he
- 2:14:46Speaker 4: are prepared for the media storm that is engulfing them
- 2:14:49Speaker 4: right now and will continue to over the course of the.
- 2:14:52Speaker 3: Season if You're Will, hammond how are you how are
- 2:14:59Speaker 3: you supposed to just ride this? Out your university has
- 2:15:03Speaker 3: chosen because of your injury and maybe a little bit
- 2:15:07Speaker 3: of doubt about how quickly you can be. Back your
- 2:15:09Speaker 3: university has decided to make themselves public enemy number one
- 2:15:14Speaker 3: in college, sports in college, football so That Brendan soresby can.
- 2:15:19Speaker 3: Play he has never played it down for your. University
- 2:15:22Speaker 3: he became A Texas Tech Red raider like ten minutes,
- 2:15:26Speaker 3: ago and you're the backup for. Now but you're a
- 2:15:30Speaker 3: guy who's played impressively one games For Texas. Tech and
- 2:15:35Speaker 3: rather than, LIKE i don't, know give you four weeks
- 2:15:38Speaker 3: to get, healthy of four weeks of actual game, PLAY
- 2:15:40Speaker 3: i should, say to get, healthy they're, like, no, instead
- 2:15:44Speaker 3: let's just die on this.
- 2:15:45Speaker 9: Hill, yeah it's a great.
- 2:15:48Speaker 4: QUESTION i think there's you, know maybe not as much
- 2:15:52Speaker 4: internal strife as we might think there is because of
- 2:15:56Speaker 4: the head of the snake here And enjoy maguire and
- 2:15:58Speaker 4: the head of the. Program and you know the fact That,
- 2:16:03Speaker 4: hammond who you, KNOW i would imagine has had opportunities to, leave.
- 2:16:08Speaker 4: HASN'T i think so a lot about the culture in
- 2:16:12Speaker 4: a world in which only one quarterback can, play and
- 2:16:14Speaker 4: so so many quarterbacks transfer out for the option to.
- 2:16:17Speaker 4: Play you, Know hammond has over the last couple of years,
- 2:16:21Speaker 4: shown you, know pretty high level of, ability AND i
- 2:16:24Speaker 4: think For tech, fans they like to see more of.
- 2:16:26Speaker 4: It you, know if he doesn't tear HIS, acl it
- 2:16:28Speaker 4: would have been, very very interesting to see what decisions
- 2:16:32Speaker 4: The Texas Tech Red raiders would have made this off.
- 2:16:34Speaker 4: Season you. Know joy maguire maintains that that's the biggest
- 2:16:38Speaker 4: reason when we asked him this off season that they you,
- 2:16:40Speaker 4: know recruited Source by was because they just didn't feel
- 2:16:43Speaker 4: confident In Will hammond's ability to go following THE sacl,
- 2:16:47Speaker 4: tear and that they would rather take it, slowly let,
- 2:16:49Speaker 4: him you, know, develop let him get, healthy and go
- 2:16:52Speaker 4: To soorsby. Instead the reality Is soresby was the most
- 2:16:55Speaker 4: sought after player in the. Portal Chris hummer And april
- 2:16:58Speaker 4: reported THAT Lsu, Indieana, miami we're all in On. Soresby
- 2:17:03Speaker 4: and in a world in, which you, Know Sam levit
- 2:17:06Speaker 4: is getting a ton of money and mens is getting
- 2:17:08Speaker 4: a ton of, money and we see the kind of
- 2:17:09Speaker 4: quarterback money that's out there, available you, know it's it's
- 2:17:13Speaker 4: really intriguing That soorsby was the main guy that everybody
- 2:17:16Speaker 4: seemed to, want despite kind of what we've seen from
- 2:17:19Speaker 4: him in two years At. Cincinnati so, YEAH i, mean
- 2:17:22Speaker 4: it's a great. Question it's funny BECAUSE i feel Like
- 2:17:24Speaker 4: i've heard very little about The Will hammond aspect of,
- 2:17:27Speaker 4: this you, know AND i think they were blindsided by
- 2:17:31Speaker 4: The soresby, stuff.
- 2:17:31Speaker 9: And they try to manage it as well as they can, by.
- 2:17:34Speaker 4: You, know still trying to be committed to winning while you,
- 2:17:38Speaker 4: know making sure that everything stays in. Order but, LOOK
- 2:17:41Speaker 4: i Think, hammond you, know expects that he's going to
- 2:17:44Speaker 4: be the starting quarterback for this team next, season and you,
- 2:17:46Speaker 4: know we'll see how it goes in terms of before,
- 2:17:48Speaker 4: then because you, know, look if If soorsby buckled under
- 2:17:54Speaker 4: pressure when this team was five and one At, cincinnati you,
- 2:17:58Speaker 4: know what's he going to do in situations this year
- 2:18:01Speaker 4: WHERE i, mean he is public enemy number. One people
- 2:18:04Speaker 4: are extremely upset about, this not just that you, know
- 2:18:08Speaker 4: he's eligible to, play but that he's gambled on his
- 2:18:11Speaker 4: own team in multiple, occasions and so like he is
- 2:18:15Speaker 4: going to feel the wrath of, fans he's going to
- 2:18:17Speaker 4: feel the wrath of the. Media there is going to
- 2:18:19Speaker 4: be so much more added pressure to. Him and So
- 2:18:23Speaker 4: i'm not sure that we are going to be seeing
- 2:18:25Speaker 4: much Of Will hammond this, year.
- 2:18:28Speaker 3: How much should we worry about precedent when it comes
- 2:18:32Speaker 3: to this ruling in college? SPORTS i, mean but there's
- 2:18:35Speaker 3: a bunch of pro. Guys they were, like, WAIT i
- 2:18:38Speaker 3: didn't use up all my. Eligibility CAN i come back and?
- 2:18:41Speaker 3: Play like if this dude can, play anyone can. Play
- 2:18:44Speaker 3: and obviously that's an apples and oranges. Comparison but the
- 2:18:48Speaker 3: ruling was based on basically the fear that there's a
- 2:18:53Speaker 3: significant detriment To Will hammon or To Brendan soorsby's well
- 2:18:58Speaker 3: being if he is disallowed from.
- 2:19:01Speaker 1: Playing it's, LIKE i could make.
- 2:19:02Speaker 3: A pretty easy case that me not being allowed to
- 2:19:06Speaker 3: go play another year of college football right now is
- 2:19:10Speaker 3: not bad for my, health you know WHAT i?
- 2:19:11Speaker 1: Mean like what the president here is so?
- 2:19:14Speaker 4: Dangerous, YEAH i, mean so there's a few, things you.
- 2:19:19Speaker 4: Know on the one, hand there's you, know the fact,
- 2:19:23Speaker 4: that as you alluded, to this was not a anti trust ruling.
- 2:19:28Speaker 9: Here this is not a ruling As ketchler has.
- 2:19:30Speaker 4: Won many of these, before and quite, frankly my projection
- 2:19:34Speaker 4: of sores beginning this injunction was based on my belief
- 2:19:37Speaker 4: that it would be based on anti trust, laws and
- 2:19:40Speaker 4: to your, POINT i, mean in his, statement the judge
- 2:19:44Speaker 4: in this case basically says that he bought the argument
- 2:19:46Speaker 4: that they made On soresby's behalf that this would be.
- 2:19:49Speaker 4: Detrimental you, know, again can't imagine the psyche Of Brendan
- 2:19:55Speaker 4: soorsby right now and how much this is going to
- 2:19:57Speaker 4: change based on the media firestorre this is created and
- 2:20:01Speaker 4: will continue to his mental mind frame in psyche even with.
- 2:20:05Speaker 4: PLAYING i imagine it's going to be extremely fragile this. Year,
- 2:20:08Speaker 4: again given, too we've heard historically that, like, yeah maybe
- 2:20:11Speaker 4: he buckles under pressure a little. Bit in the fact,
- 2:20:14Speaker 4: THAT i, mean the next game That soorsby wins the
- 2:20:16Speaker 4: month Of november will be the first game you, know
- 2:20:19Speaker 4: that he's won since twenty twenty. Three the last two,
- 2:20:21Speaker 4: Seasons cincinnati has not won one single game in the
- 2:20:25Speaker 4: month Of. November i'm not going to completely Divorce soresby from.
- 2:20:28Speaker 4: That so that's the. One the. One on the one,
- 2:20:31Speaker 4: hand the fact that Cut store is able to win
- 2:20:34Speaker 4: this case for sores be with not even having to
- 2:20:36Speaker 4: make the anti trust, argument which which, means you, know
- 2:20:40Speaker 4: everybody wants to talk, about oh if they If congress
- 2:20:43Speaker 4: passed this, law then you know this would have taken
- 2:20:46Speaker 4: care of this. Ruling, no it wouldn't, have because that's
- 2:20:48Speaker 4: gives the ensable an anti trust. Exemption, AGAIN tesla was
- 2:20:52Speaker 4: testing out sort of a different approach and it won
- 2:20:55Speaker 4: regardless in terms of the. PRECEDENT i, mean, look oh,
- 2:20:58Speaker 4: see the reality is the end is you, know a
- 2:21:02Speaker 4: governing body and name. Alone the only thing that THE
- 2:21:04Speaker 4: N DOUBLE a does at this point in time is
- 2:21:07Speaker 4: put on championships for every sport that's not. Football but
- 2:21:11Speaker 4: there this has been quite the road of l's for
- 2:21:16Speaker 4: THE Nc DOUBLE, a and they're going to continue to
- 2:21:18Speaker 4: take L's and that's like the precedent here is that
- 2:21:23Speaker 4: there are no rules that THE Nc DOUBLE a can.
- 2:21:25Speaker 4: Enforce and if they can't even enforce this, rule WHICH
- 2:21:29Speaker 4: i think we all agree is you, know really potentially
- 2:21:33Speaker 4: dangerous and toxic to sports at, large.
- 2:21:36Speaker 9: Gambling on your own games and gambling in.
- 2:21:38Speaker 4: General you know that that that there are no rules
- 2:21:42Speaker 4: that will stand up in court that the INNSTABLE a
- 2:21:44Speaker 4: has and the only way to change this is through collective.
- 2:21:47Speaker 4: Bargaining AND i know we've been talking about this for for,
- 2:21:50Speaker 4: you it feels like over a year now and that is.
- 2:21:53Speaker 9: Going to continue to be the.
- 2:21:54Speaker 4: Case the decision makers in the INSTABLE a and administrators
- 2:21:58Speaker 4: across the country are slowly coming the realization that the
- 2:22:00Speaker 4: only fix is not going to come from congressional. Legislation
- 2:22:03Speaker 4: it's not going to come from anything other than sitting
- 2:22:06Speaker 4: down at the table and negotiating a collective bargain agreement
- 2:22:09Speaker 4: of rules and stipulations in which to, govern because that's
- 2:22:12Speaker 4: what The Supreme court said and ultimately that's what all
- 2:22:15Speaker 4: these courts subsequently had.
- 2:22:16Speaker 3: Decided Is cincinnati going to get in trouble when it's
- 2:22:23Speaker 3: all said and done because multiple reports out there that
- 2:22:26Speaker 3: they knew About Brendan soorsby's gambling Last, august so before
- 2:22:30Speaker 3: he played the, Season and obviously the ruling in his
- 2:22:35Speaker 3: favor is based on those things that you just talked
- 2:22:38Speaker 3: about the ability for THE ncaa to potentially enforce rules
- 2:22:43Speaker 3: and fractions for, LIKE i don't know athletic administrators At
- 2:22:48Speaker 3: cincinnati that maybe knew about something that should have been self,
- 2:22:51Speaker 3: reported and like that's a totally different can of. Worms
- 2:22:55Speaker 3: Is cincinnati going to face any kind of blowback from?
- 2:22:59Speaker 5: This?
- 2:23:00Speaker 4: Right and you know there is this level of iron
- 2:23:04Speaker 4: e oc from the standpoint of you, know these universities
- 2:23:09Speaker 4: pulled together, money created This College Sports commission to govern the,
- 2:23:13Speaker 4: sport which the schools again agreed to and have paid.
- 2:23:17Speaker 4: For and all we've seen then is all those individual
- 2:23:21Speaker 4: schools also, pay whether directly or, indirectly in order to
- 2:23:28Speaker 4: break those. Rules SO i mean you're the. Winner the
- 2:23:31Speaker 4: true winners here are lawyers and all of the billible
- 2:23:35Speaker 4: hours that they're getting on both. Sides, again like you
- 2:23:38Speaker 4: have schools and universities here that paid lawyers to create
- 2:23:43Speaker 4: The College Sports commission that are now subsequently paying lawyers
- 2:23:47Speaker 4: to go against the rulings and the rules of The
- 2:23:50Speaker 4: College Sports. Commission it is a weird and crazy time
- 2:23:54Speaker 4: in college. Athletics and maybe there's no better way to
- 2:23:56Speaker 4: say it than that everybody wants. Rules everybody agree there
- 2:24:00Speaker 4: needs to be rules in, Uniformity nobody agrees on who
- 2:24:03Speaker 4: it should. Impact everybody wants those rules to impact everybody.
- 2:24:06Speaker 4: Else nobody wants those rules to impact, Them and when
- 2:24:09Speaker 4: it does impact, them they throw up their hands and
- 2:24:11Speaker 4: they go take it to, court get an, injunction or
- 2:24:13Speaker 4: just say we're not going to buy by these rules.
- 2:24:15Speaker 4: Anyways SO i, mean, yeah it's it's a disaster from
- 2:24:19Speaker 4: a rule. Standpoint you had subleas we've, mentioned continues to
- 2:24:23Speaker 4: take l's here and like there's no like legislation or
- 2:24:28Speaker 4: bill that's going to fix. This there have been forty
- 2:24:30Speaker 4: bills that have been introduced in either The house or
- 2:24:33Speaker 4: The senate over these last few years SINCE anil and
- 2:24:36Speaker 4: The portal came on, board and none of them have
- 2:24:38Speaker 4: even made out a. COMMITTEE o. See SO i, mean
- 2:24:41Speaker 4: like we're talking about multiple. Years we're talking about hundreds
- 2:24:44Speaker 4: of millions of dollars that have been invested in Lobbying
- 2:24:47Speaker 4: congress in order to get a bill, passed and we've
- 2:24:50Speaker 4: made zero progress on any of these bills whatsoever even
- 2:24:53Speaker 4: get them to a vote on the floor of either
- 2:24:55Speaker 4: The house or The. Senate so, AGAIN i think THE
- 2:24:59Speaker 4: cba is really the one move here that could help
- 2:25:03Speaker 4: to create you, know a level playing, form a level playing,
- 2:25:07Speaker 4: field uniformity and and you, know give us some sort
- 2:25:10Speaker 4: of semblance of rules to. Follow BUT i do not
- 2:25:13Speaker 4: See cincinnati dealing with any punishments. Here you, know if
- 2:25:17Speaker 4: there's anything it could be potentially you know some that
- 2:25:24Speaker 4: in some ways a state finds That soresby's broken a.
- 2:25:26Speaker 4: Law but to this point right, now we haven't seen,
- 2:25:29Speaker 4: that and there's been so there's been no criminal you,
- 2:25:31Speaker 4: know charges or investigation on this beyond just each state
- 2:25:35Speaker 4: that he's gambled in watching an investigation to see exactly you,
- 2:25:39Speaker 4: know what's going on. There but you, know the the
- 2:25:42Speaker 4: iridoc is all these schools want to follow rules and
- 2:25:46Speaker 4: say they want to follow. Rules let's just say the
- 2:25:48Speaker 4: INNSTABLE a came in and found something out About cincinnati
- 2:25:51Speaker 4: and Penalized cincinnati and the. Whatever, Now, cincinnati as a
- 2:25:54Speaker 4: member of the NSTABLE a should take that, punishment but
- 2:25:57Speaker 4: in most cases what we've seen is them not do
- 2:25:59Speaker 4: that and basically sue in order to get out of these.
- 2:26:01Speaker 4: Punishments and this is again going back to the idea
- 2:26:04Speaker 4: here that the INSTABL a is really not anything other
- 2:26:06Speaker 4: than a body that puts on championships for all sports
- 2:26:11Speaker 4: except for.
- 2:26:12Speaker 3: FOOTBALL i THINK i know the answer to this, question
- 2:26:15Speaker 3: But i'm gonna ask it. Anyway why is this the
- 2:26:20Speaker 3: issue that everyone's getting on their high horse. About why
- 2:26:24Speaker 3: is this the issue that The Big ten and THE
- 2:26:27Speaker 3: sec and everyone else is, like, well we might not
- 2:26:30Speaker 3: even play these guys. Anymore when in college Sports we
- 2:26:34Speaker 3: have seen sexual assaults be. Ignored we have seen domestic
- 2:26:39Speaker 3: abuse be. Ignored we have seen every alcohol infraction imaginabill be.
- 2:26:43Speaker 3: Ignored we've seen every form of academic fraud be. Ignored
- 2:26:47Speaker 3: why is this one the one that the non participants
- 2:26:53Speaker 3: right the other conferences and the powers that be elsewhere
- 2:26:57Speaker 3: are looking over the fence and saying, like, oh we
- 2:26:59Speaker 3: did disapprove of that, specifically and so we're going to
- 2:27:02Speaker 3: have something to say about.
- 2:27:03Speaker 4: IT i, mean oh, see this is the crux of
- 2:27:06Speaker 4: my entire. Argument kind of contrary to public. Opinion right,
- 2:27:10Speaker 4: now you, know there are no, rules and you have
- 2:27:16Speaker 4: sitting athletic directors in The big ten in the N
- 2:27:18Speaker 4: sec basically saying we need to break away to create
- 2:27:20Speaker 4: our own rules in light of the fact that The
- 2:27:23Speaker 4: College Sports commission told them that some of THEIR nil
- 2:27:26Speaker 4: deals are not above, board they're not, kosher, Right, so,
- 2:27:29Speaker 4: like you're one hundred percent right in questioning this because
- 2:27:33Speaker 4: like not only just going through the historyonics of what
- 2:27:37Speaker 4: you're talking, about whether It's, baylor whether It's Penn. STATE i,
- 2:27:40Speaker 4: mean my, goodness we just got out of a cheating
- 2:27:43Speaker 4: scandal that was completely swept under the run drug From, michigan,
- 2:27:46Speaker 4: RIGHT i Mean michigan stole signs and was you, know
- 2:27:51Speaker 4: there's pretty hard evidence suggests that, they you, know sent
- 2:27:54Speaker 4: coaches to other games and practices still signs like this
- 2:27:58Speaker 4: happened and was. Complete we swept under the. Rug this
- 2:28:01Speaker 4: is the one thing that it feels like is just
- 2:28:04Speaker 4: completely everybody agrees. On, EVERYBODY i mean is rushing to
- 2:28:09Speaker 4: social media to get on their moral high. Horse it's it's.
- 2:28:13Speaker 4: SICKENING i mean it's like, nobody AND i mean nobody
- 2:28:17Speaker 4: loves to take the moral high horse more than the media.
- 2:28:19Speaker 4: Does but social media is just insatiable when it comes
- 2:28:22Speaker 4: to this. Stuff AND i get, It like it is
- 2:28:25Speaker 4: the gambling, piece it's The Pete, rose it's the you know,
- 2:28:29Speaker 4: It like there's so much history with gambling and sports
- 2:28:31Speaker 4: that THAT'S i think where people create the. Distinction but,
- 2:28:34Speaker 4: like let's be, real this is twenty twenty. SIX i
- 2:28:36Speaker 4: just went on a, trip a vacation with my wife
- 2:28:39Speaker 4: for five days To, maine and they have legal sports
- 2:28:41Speaker 4: gambling In. Maine it's literally as soon AS i steps
- 2:28:43Speaker 4: off the, Plane i'm being inundated with advertisements to sign
- 2:28:47Speaker 4: up for this website or go to this app or
- 2:28:50Speaker 4: sign up for this and get this.
- 2:28:52Speaker 9: Bonus like the.
- 2:28:53Speaker 4: Predatory nature of sports wagering in twenty twenty, six and
- 2:28:57Speaker 4: like this is not The Pete rose Black socks going
- 2:29:02Speaker 4: To vegas and meeting with the mafia to throw. Games
- 2:29:04Speaker 4: like the idea of sports gambling and sports, wagering that's
- 2:29:07Speaker 4: the way that we think about, it as opposed to
- 2:29:09Speaker 4: just howbiquitous ubiquitous it is in sports. Today these are
- 2:29:12Speaker 4: two completely different, realities and yet people are taking sort
- 2:29:16Speaker 4: of a standard from the nineteen nineties into a twenty
- 2:29:19Speaker 4: twenty six argument about sports. Gambling it's a totally different.
- 2:29:22Speaker 3: World well, stated, Man it's something that we're just going
- 2:29:27Speaker 3: to have to live with moving forward until somebody can
- 2:29:32Speaker 3: figure out to peel away from a toothless enforcing body
- 2:29:36Speaker 3: and collectively bargaining with athletes and all of.
- 2:29:39Speaker 1: That it's just such a complicated.
- 2:29:41Speaker 3: Mess but only a couple more months until actual, football
- 2:29:46Speaker 3: and of course we're a month out from where we'll
- 2:29:49Speaker 3: be down there In dallas FOR i guess in was
- 2:29:54Speaker 3: It Arlington? Frisco what's the Actual It's frisco For big
- 2:29:59Speaker 3: twelve media?
- 2:29:59Speaker 4: Days, yeah you've got you, know It's FAY i mentioned
- 2:30:04Speaker 4: it was just In. Maine it's so beautiful up, there
- 2:30:05Speaker 4: as it is AS i was In Salt lake last
- 2:30:08Speaker 4: year and went skiing In Park, City Like dallas is just.
- 2:30:11Speaker 4: Hilarious LIKE i love THAT i live, here but it's
- 2:30:14Speaker 4: a land of strip malls as far AS i can.
- 2:30:16Speaker 4: See and, YEAH i mean what the confusion you just
- 2:30:19Speaker 4: had is basically like most people when it comes To,
- 2:30:22Speaker 4: dallas because it's all it's the Metro, pleux, Right It's
- 2:30:25Speaker 4: it's It's, Dallas It's, irving It's Las, colinas It's, arlington
- 2:30:30Speaker 4: It's Fort, worth It's Grand, Prairie It's, frisco It's, Alan it's.
- 2:30:35Speaker 4: Place it's just an endless loop of the same exact
- 2:30:38Speaker 4: strip mall WITH cvs And target And chili's Endlessly so
- 2:30:44Speaker 4: it's basically the same exact, place cut and, pasted uh
- 2:30:48Speaker 4: and you, know in different designs all across the. City so,
- 2:30:51Speaker 4: yeah your confusion IS i think wide spread and. Held
- 2:30:55Speaker 4: and it will be officially At frisco Though Att stadium
- 2:30:58Speaker 4: is the home of the Cow, boys and we have
- 2:31:00Speaker 4: Had big twelve many days there in the. Past BUT
- 2:31:03Speaker 4: i do think that the star In frisco is a
- 2:31:05Speaker 4: better is a better venue for it as it was last.
- 2:31:08Speaker 4: Year So i'm looking forward to seeing, you.
- 2:31:09Speaker 3: Buddy, Yeah i'm looking forward to seeing. You thanks for
- 2:31:11Speaker 3: hopping on again today and we. Will we'll Break, Brad
- 2:31:14Speaker 3: we'll share thoughts sooner than.
- 2:31:16Speaker 5: Later thank.
- 2:31:16Speaker 4: You sounds, Good take.
- 2:31:18Speaker 3: Care all, Right temkan great stuff from him as, Always
- 2:31:23Speaker 3: big twelve today on tune In. Radio Brandon sorosby is
- 2:31:27Speaker 3: eligible and the ramifications of that are far, reaching BUT
- 2:31:31Speaker 3: i think the best case for The big, twelve For,
- 2:31:34Speaker 3: utah FOR byu just go play and if you end
- 2:31:38Speaker 3: up facing, them beat. Them we'll give away some tickets
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- 2:33:43Speaker 3: to see. You what's going?
- 2:33:44Speaker 1: On you, know The soresby stuff is.
- 2:33:47Speaker 3: Crazy we were talking about that your your knicks are
- 2:33:52Speaker 3: coming back down to reality a little bit after Losing
- 2:33:55Speaker 3: game one at The. GARDEN i know that you spent
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- 2:34:28Speaker 13: seats but they were able to secure. Them took them
- 2:34:32Speaker 13: two hours and thirty minutes to get into the.
- 2:34:34Speaker 5: Building security lines. Such, yeah, Yeah trump was.
- 2:34:39Speaker 13: There it changed the entire, Dynamic like there are interviews going,
- 2:34:43Speaker 13: around like people showed up early to kind of get
- 2:34:48Speaker 13: into the building as soon as they, could and they
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- 2:35:03Speaker 13: paying eleven grand for upper bowl, seats eleven thousand dollars
- 2:35:07Speaker 13: for upper bowl.
- 2:35:08Speaker 3: Seats the get in price For game four is about
- 2:35:10Speaker 3: forty five hundred dollars for seats in the four hundred.
- 2:35:14Speaker 3: Level it's just so that's behind the baskets in the. Rafters, Okay,
- 2:35:23Speaker 3: yeah the guy who changes the light bulbs walking on the, Catwalk,
- 2:35:27Speaker 3: yeah he's gonna be in front of, you and it's
- 2:35:30Speaker 3: only gonna cost you forty five hundred.
- 2:35:32Speaker 13: Bucks AND i was BECAUSE i watched the game last
- 2:35:35Speaker 13: night AND i had a handful of friends there and
- 2:35:38Speaker 13: my brother and my. Son So i'm texting with them
- 2:35:41Speaker 13: to try to get a feel for what it was
- 2:35:42Speaker 13: like in the, building because it didn't sound the way
- 2:35:44Speaker 13: THAT i thought it was going to. Sound it didn't
- 2:35:46Speaker 13: sound the way it did When Larry johnson hit his
- 2:35:48Speaker 13: four point play against The pacers in ninety, nine which
- 2:35:51Speaker 13: was the loudest Moment i've ever experienced in any building,
- 2:35:55Speaker 13: anywhere Including Jazz finals at The Delta. Center and, so,
- 2:36:00Speaker 13: really What Jim dolan, did because he's such a, due
- 2:36:04Speaker 13: he's such an, idiot he's such a bad. Person is
- 2:36:07Speaker 13: he ruined the entire vibe by making this. Happen because
- 2:36:12Speaker 13: the security lines were hours, long they Priced nick fans
- 2:36:16Speaker 13: out of the. Building and the FANS i talked to
- 2:36:19Speaker 13: you they were IN msg last, night were, like you,
- 2:36:21Speaker 13: know it was a good, crowd but it was not
- 2:36:23Speaker 13: a great. Crowd it was not A New York nick.
- 2:36:25Speaker 13: Crowd so the decision from ownership and And dolan is
- 2:36:32Speaker 13: just he's a horrible. Person he's, unethical he's a bad. Guy,
- 2:36:35Speaker 13: okay he prices his best fans out of the building
- 2:36:40Speaker 13: and then he invites his Buddy trump in and new
- 2:36:44Speaker 13: security lines were going to be two to three hours.
- 2:36:46Speaker 13: Long by the time people got in the, building they
- 2:36:48Speaker 13: were let. Tired and everybody WHO i knew they was
- 2:36:51Speaker 13: in the building was, like, dude this is not the
- 2:36:54Speaker 13: crowd people were expected AT. Msg i'm not saying that's
- 2:36:56Speaker 13: why they. Lost some people are Some nick fans are
- 2:36:59Speaker 13: saying thats why they, Lost but it would be it
- 2:37:02Speaker 13: would be Quintessential Jim dolan to do something as dumb
- 2:37:06Speaker 13: as possible when his team has a chance to win
- 2:37:09Speaker 13: a championship for the first time in fifty three years
- 2:37:11Speaker 13: and he's the one that gets in the. Way it
- 2:37:13Speaker 13: would just be perfect AND i would not be surprised at.
- 2:37:16Speaker 3: All speaking of the current, President Kyle, WHITTINGHAM i have
- 2:37:21Speaker 3: on very good Authority Kyle whittingham was golfing At Bedminster
- 2:37:26Speaker 3: Trump National Golf club With.
- 2:37:28Speaker 1: TRUMP i don't know if he was. Golfing well you must.
- 2:37:32Speaker 3: Have you must have been golfing When trump was, there
- 2:37:35Speaker 3: because the only WAY i have this information means that
- 2:37:39Speaker 3: the president was.
- 2:37:40Speaker 13: There did you get it through The Secret? Service, Maybe,
- 2:37:44Speaker 13: sean you have connects with The Secret?
- 2:37:46Speaker 5: SERVICE i. Might can you get people into the garden on?
- 2:37:48Speaker 3: TIME i could get myself into the garden on time
- 2:37:53Speaker 3: BECAUSE i because of.
- 2:37:55Speaker 13: That, okay huh, yeah it's, uh it's it's too bad
- 2:37:59Speaker 13: that this has become front and. Center give me the soresby,
- 2:38:02Speaker 13: take give, me give, me give me the give me
- 2:38:05Speaker 13: a truncated in a.
- 2:38:06Speaker 5: Vacuum sean o'connells so.
- 2:38:08Speaker 3: Went through the stages of, grief, right the denial and
- 2:38:12Speaker 3: the anger and the. Resolution i'm at the resolution, now
- 2:38:15Speaker 3: and my my firm opinion is Give Texas tech what
- 2:38:21Speaker 3: they're asking. For let them let them play with this
- 2:38:24Speaker 3: guy all season. Long let him face the venom and
- 2:38:27Speaker 3: the vitriol of every fan, base from here To, Fairbanks.
- 2:38:32Speaker 3: Alaska let them be public enemy number one in college.
- 2:38:36Speaker 3: Sports let them be the face of the broken. System
- 2:38:40Speaker 3: and you, know Let Cody campbell do every interview and
- 2:38:44Speaker 3: Let joey McGuire And Brendan soursby do every single interview
- 2:38:49Speaker 3: for the next six to eight months and. Beyond for the,
- 2:38:53Speaker 3: coaches by the, way where all that has talked about
- 2:38:56Speaker 3: is do you really think this guy should be? Playing
- 2:38:59Speaker 3: do you really think this is about his mental health
- 2:39:01Speaker 3: or do you think this is about your team meeting
- 2:39:03Speaker 3: a starting.
- 2:39:03Speaker 5: QUARTERBACK i, mean we're gonna.
- 2:39:05Speaker 3: Have a, chance hopefully to talk to them At big
- 2:39:08Speaker 3: twelve media, days Although i'm sure they're gonna be, very
- 2:39:10Speaker 3: very very.
- 2:39:11Speaker 5: Parsimonious my guess Is sworsby won't be.
- 2:39:13Speaker 3: There, Well joey McGuire has to be, there and he's
- 2:39:17Speaker 3: probably gonna pull a coach prime where he does like
- 2:39:20Speaker 3: one national interview for obvious.
- 2:39:23Speaker 1: Reason but give them what they.
- 2:39:24Speaker 3: Want if they think that this guy is the savior
- 2:39:28Speaker 3: of their program and he's gonna be the thing that
- 2:39:30Speaker 3: elevates them from.
- 2:39:31Speaker 1: What they had last year generationally great.
- 2:39:33Speaker 3: Defense they couldn't get him beyond the first round of
- 2:39:36Speaker 3: the college football. Playoff you think that that eleven for
- 2:39:39Speaker 3: twenty One Brendan sorosby is gonna be that guy for
- 2:39:43Speaker 3: you this, year and you're willing to put him in
- 2:39:47Speaker 3: the eye of the storm every single weekend in order
- 2:39:50Speaker 3: to prove. That, fine go be those guys and just you,
- 2:39:55Speaker 3: know all these, conversations but all we shouldn't play.
- 2:39:58Speaker 1: Them don't schedule him in any stop it all.
- 2:40:01Speaker 3: Right you played a sexual, assaulter you played a gambler,
- 2:40:07Speaker 3: before you played someone who cheated on every assignment and,
- 2:40:10Speaker 3: Test you played against, someone and you started someone on
- 2:40:13Speaker 3: your own team that doesn't even know how to. Read
- 2:40:16Speaker 3: you got the guy that's coming off of four. DUIs
- 2:40:19Speaker 3: like every school has its skeletons in the. Closet we
- 2:40:23Speaker 3: all climb off our high horses and you punch each
- 2:40:26Speaker 3: other in the. Face And Brendan, Sorsby ain't that. Dude
- 2:40:29Speaker 3: he's not worth it For Texas. Tech he is not
- 2:40:32Speaker 3: worth The big twelve dying on some hill of, like
- 2:40:35Speaker 3: we're not going to play. Them they can't win the conference. Championship,
- 2:40:39Speaker 3: no let give them what they.
- 2:40:41Speaker 13: WANT i thought the family tweet was fake WHEN i saw,
- 2:40:45Speaker 13: it opened up my phone saw his, Tweet i'm, like
- 2:40:48Speaker 13: that's not. Real i'm still quite, stunned to be honest
- 2:40:53Speaker 13: in one. Way in the other, way this seems to
- 2:40:55Speaker 13: be how the system works right now where you don't
- 2:40:57Speaker 13: get it from this. Judge and when he Hired Jeffrey,
- 2:41:00Speaker 13: kesler that dude just does not lose because he finds
- 2:41:03Speaker 13: angles and he's the best at what he does and
- 2:41:06Speaker 13: has been for a. Generation if you don't know Who Jeffrey,
- 2:41:09Speaker 13: kesslers look him up on YOUR i don't know is
- 2:41:11Speaker 13: IT ai these days where everyone's searching your preferred search.
- 2:41:15Speaker 5: Engine look Up Jeffrey. Kessler look at his.
- 2:41:18Speaker 13: Past he is The Michael, jordan he is the Baver,
- 2:41:22Speaker 13: ruth the greatest of all. Time and whatever Endeavor Jeffrey
- 2:41:26Speaker 13: kessler is. That WHEN i saw he Hired Jeffrey, Kessler i'm,
- 2:41:28Speaker 13: like at some point he's probably gonna find a way
- 2:41:30Speaker 13: or an. Angle but Where i'm stuck on this, is
- 2:41:35Speaker 13: and you know, this the biggest fear of anyone who
- 2:41:40Speaker 13: is part of a governing body in. Sport you're a,
- 2:41:43Speaker 13: commissioner if you run a, team is your consumer base
- 2:41:48Speaker 13: believe in your product is, compromised because then your wwe
- 2:41:51Speaker 13: and a lot of people LOVE.
- 2:41:52Speaker 5: Wwe that's.
- 2:41:53Speaker 13: Fine but what separates pro wrestling from pro, basketball proer
- 2:41:59Speaker 13: college we're throwing them all, together from, basketball, baseball, football, hockey,
- 2:42:03Speaker 13: soccer those other. Sports what separates those sports from the,
- 2:42:08Speaker 13: scripted TELEVISED wwe is the authentic authenticity of the. Product
- 2:42:15Speaker 13: and if your consumers start to question the integrity of your,
- 2:42:19Speaker 13: approach THEN i think you're gonna see a lot of
- 2:42:21Speaker 13: people start to tune.
- 2:42:23Speaker 5: Out at least that's always been the.
- 2:42:24Speaker 13: Narrative maybe that doesn't matter anymore because nothing seems to matter.
- 2:42:28Speaker 1: ANYMORE i don't.
- 2:42:29Speaker 3: Know, WELL i, mean, look this judge obviously is, like, well,
- 2:42:33Speaker 3: OKAY i guess we're gonna live with that.
- 2:42:34Speaker 1: Risk and you're absolutely, Right.
- 2:42:37Speaker 3: Spence someone text in today and, said are we sure
- 2:42:41Speaker 3: That Brandon soursbey didn't throw the game Against utah last?
- 2:42:44Speaker 1: Year it was his worst game of the.
- 2:42:45Speaker 5: Year? Exactly are we?
- 2:42:46Speaker 1: Sure we're? Not and that's the.
- 2:42:48Speaker 3: Problem, well the funny thing is, is, like never even
- 2:42:51Speaker 3: crossed my, mind even what we found out he's.
- 2:42:54Speaker 1: Better i'm just, like this guy's not that. Good you
- 2:42:55Speaker 1: to smashed?
- 2:42:56Speaker 4: Him?
- 2:42:56Speaker 3: Yeah or or did he throw the? Game that's the.
- 2:42:59Speaker 3: Problem you're absolutely, right that's the. Problem and, again go,
- 2:43:04Speaker 3: Ahead Texas. Tech if this is really what you want
- 2:43:07Speaker 3: to do with a program that finally was getting a
- 2:43:10Speaker 3: little shine and a little bit of.
- 2:43:11Speaker 1: Love if you really want to be the.
- 2:43:15Speaker 3: Evil empire and the poster boys of everything that is,
- 2:43:18Speaker 3: wrong go for. It, Man Cody. Campbell there are way
- 2:43:22Speaker 3: better ways to spend your. Money you're an. Idiot you
- 2:43:24Speaker 3: went from being one of the most important and influential
- 2:43:27Speaker 3: people in college sports to just being like a PETULANT
- 2:43:31Speaker 3: i can have WHAT i want Because i'm rich enough
- 2:43:34Speaker 3: to have it kind of.
- 2:43:34Speaker 5: Guy, yep it's. Disgusting it's, disgusting and it's also.
- 2:43:37Speaker 13: Capitalism it's kind of the way things have gone as of,
- 2:43:41Speaker 13: late and it just at some point do you just
- 2:43:43Speaker 13: shake your head and, say all, right, whatever you.
- 2:43:45Speaker 1: Know the thing That i'm excited.
- 2:43:46Speaker 3: About i've learned a lot of things from, sports a
- 2:43:49Speaker 3: lot in my. Lifetime i'm very happy And i'm very happy,
- 2:43:53Speaker 3: that at forty two years of, AGE i learned the
- 2:43:55Speaker 3: lesson THAT i will no longer accept any consequences of my.
- 2:43:58Speaker 14: ACTIONS i guess that's the good news for all of. Us,
- 2:44:02Speaker 14: look ANYTIME i do something. Wrong i'm gonna. Deny i'm
- 2:44:06Speaker 14: gonna make it about my mental. Health i'm gonna get
- 2:44:08Speaker 14: a good.
- 2:44:09Speaker 13: Lawyer, yeah and you'll come out of the other side on, top.
- 2:44:12Speaker 3: And i'll just be, like what are you? SAYING i
- 2:44:14Speaker 3: did something? Wrong what do you? Mean you're gonna if
- 2:44:16Speaker 3: you fire me from this job BECAUSE i because of
- 2:44:19Speaker 3: AN fcc, violation detrimental to.
- 2:44:22Speaker 1: My mental health and now you can't do.
- 2:44:24Speaker 3: It, Sorry, James i'm gonna start dropping f bombs on
- 2:44:27Speaker 3: air and you can't touch.
- 2:44:28Speaker 5: Me he just gave me a genius. Idea it's gonna
- 2:44:31Speaker 5: be a fun show, today all.
- 2:44:33Speaker 3: Right stay tuned for the. Drive thanks for listening To
- 2:44:35Speaker 3: The sean O'Connell. Show we'll do it again tomorrow ON espn.
- 2:44:38Speaker 3: Seven