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10-12-Foot Giant Secretly Flown Out of Afghanistan on a C-130 _ Joe Rogan _ Timothy Alberino _giant · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of your content online, but the
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  Speaker 1: one that got me the most was absolutely the giant
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  Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, the Kandahar Giant story. And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you know, but I had Devin Lrat on the
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  Speaker 1: podcast The arm Wrestler, and he told a story about
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  Speaker 1: how when he was in the Canadian military, he was
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  Speaker 1: deployed in Afghanistan and one of the guys that he
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  Speaker 1: was working with over there had to have a conversation with.
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  Speaker 2: A warlord, with a local warlord, and.
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  Speaker 1: He said, this guy was eight feet tall. He said,
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  Speaker 1: this guy was fucking huge, and not just tall but wide.
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  Speaker 1: He said it was the biggest man he's ever seen
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  Speaker 1: in his life.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I've heard a lot of things about giantson in Afghanistan,
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  Speaker 3: and I find that, you know, I talk about a
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  Speaker 3: lot of different topics. I talk about a lot of
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  Speaker 3: UFO stuff, and I say some things that I know
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  Speaker 3: are that I know can get me in trouble. But
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  Speaker 3: nothing makes me more nervous than talking about giants, specifically
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  Speaker 3: the Kandahar Giant and the giants in Kandahar in general. Why,
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  Speaker 3: you know, mainly because when I talk to people who
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  Speaker 3: know things, they're very very nervous when we get to
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  Speaker 3: this topic, and some of them will just flat out
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  Speaker 3: will not talk about giants in general, but specifically giants
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  Speaker 3: in Afghanistan. And some of these guys are high level
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  Speaker 3: guys that worked at the Pentagon, and they'll talk rather
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  Speaker 3: freely with me about UFOs, but as soon as we
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  Speaker 3: broach this topic, it's it's like they warn't. They literally
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  Speaker 3: will warn me be careful with this topic.
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  Speaker 2: What what do you make of that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think that the topic of giants is intermeshed
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  Speaker 3: with the occult. That's my personal theory because nothing else
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  Speaker 3: makes sense. Who cares if the eight foot tall guys? Right,
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  Speaker 3: big deal?
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's eight foot tall humans, right, there's we were
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  Speaker 1: just talking about that young kid that's a basketball player
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  Speaker 1: that's seven foot nine, right. Yeah, So there's actual giants
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  Speaker 1: that are in public, right that like play for the NBA,
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  Speaker 1: right that they're out there, you could meet them.
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  Speaker 3: But when I talk when I say giants, I'm talking
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  Speaker 3: about nine to twelve feet tall. That's that's eight to
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  Speaker 3: twelve feet tall. Would would I would? I would classify
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  Speaker 3: an eight foot tall person it's a giant as well,
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  Speaker 3: as long as they don't have gigantism. Right, that's a
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  Speaker 3: completely different thing, right, Gigantism is a disability.
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  Speaker 1: This Kandahart Giant story is very crazy because what's interesting
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  Speaker 1: about it is the people that I've talked to that
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  Speaker 1: have been in Afghanistan, that were deployed in Afghanistan, not
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  Speaker 1: just Devin but other people, they don't dismiss it. They say,
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  Speaker 1: We've heard some weird shit about that place. And the
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  Speaker 1: thing that they always say is you got to realize,
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  Speaker 1: like Afghanistan is an old it's old, and it's very remote,
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  Speaker 1: like most of it is very mountainous, it's controlled by
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  Speaker 1: war lords. And you know, look, there's these what are those?
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  Speaker 1: Are they Greek or Roman? Those structures that are there
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  Speaker 1: that were that date the Greek They look like Greek
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  Speaker 1: temples that date back to Alexander the Great and archaeologists
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  Speaker 1: can't study though. They can't go there because it's too dangerous.
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  Speaker 3: It's one of the most remote places on the planet.
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  Speaker 3: Specifically because it's so dangerous, you can't just go strolling
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  Speaker 3: around Afghanistan. I mean you probably would. It probably would
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  Speaker 3: be easier to go to Antarctica than Afghanistan. And it's
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  Speaker 3: so hilarious, so the story of the Kandahar Giant.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's tell a story.
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  Speaker 3: This story has grown into a mythology over the years.
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  Speaker 3: Years ago, I was working with a gentleman named Steve
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  Speaker 3: Quail and we started a production company called Jen six Productions,
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  Speaker 3: and we were making documentary films mainly about giants, mainly
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  Speaker 3: on the topic of giants.
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  Speaker 1: Giants has referred to in the Bible in history, the
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  Speaker 1: Smithsonian Giants.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, Biblical and historical accounts of giants. So I
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  Speaker 3: was traveling around the world investigating giants and Steve is
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  Speaker 3: known for his investigations into giants, and he got a
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  Speaker 3: phone call from an elderly woman who told him, you
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  Speaker 3: need to talk to my son. My son has a
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  Speaker 3: story he needs to tell you. And she had to
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  Speaker 3: convince her son to talk to Steve, and ultimately he did,
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  Speaker 3: and he was active duty. He was a Sea one
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  Speaker 3: thirty pilot active duty. He actually went on coast to
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  Speaker 3: coast with Steve. They went on coast to ghost together
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  Speaker 3: and he related his story, I believe it. George norri him,
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  Speaker 3: Steve and George, and then later on we flew him
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  Speaker 3: into Boson, Montana to put him in our documentary film
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  Speaker 3: that we were making, and he did not he wanted
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  Speaker 3: to be filmed in silhouette. He did not want his
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  Speaker 3: face out there, even though he knew that they're going
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  Speaker 3: to be able to mark him just by his voice.
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  Speaker 3: So he flies in the Bozeman. We meet with him.
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  Speaker 3: He shows us his credentials. He was active duty see
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  Speaker 3: one thirty, and then he told us the following story,
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  Speaker 3: among many other things that he told us. He said,
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  Speaker 3: back in two thousand and five, he was deployed in
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  Speaker 3: Afghanistan and Iraq running missions as a C one thirty
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  Speaker 3: cargo pilot, and oftentimes they would have him fly into
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  Speaker 3: Bagram Airfield and these were routine missions, and so on
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  Speaker 3: one of these missions, he's flying into Bagram, but this
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  Speaker 3: time when he landed, he was met. As soon as
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  Speaker 3: he deplained, he was met on the tarmac by some
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  Speaker 3: individuals that he describes as the babysitters. He calls him
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  Speaker 3: the babysitters. He thinks they were either army intelligence or
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  Speaker 3: Air Force intelligence guys. And they didn't tell him. But
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  Speaker 3: this was different because when he disembarked, they told him
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  Speaker 3: no photo was no mention of this. Ever, this never happened,
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  Speaker 3: so he knew that whatever was about to happen was
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  Speaker 3: top secret, and he had flown classified missions before, usually
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  Speaker 3: retrieving taliban guys what he described as high valued assets.
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  Speaker 3: But this was different because there were intelligence guys on
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  Speaker 3: the tarmac waiting for something. And it turns out what
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  Speaker 3: they were waiting for was the cargo that was being
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  Speaker 3: delivered on a forklift to the sea one thirty And
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  Speaker 3: the pilot says that the first thing that struck him
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  Speaker 3: as this cargo was moving toward him and his crew
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  Speaker 3: was the odor. He said, it smelled like this, like musk,
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  Speaker 3: bio and death, and it was extremely pungent. And when
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  Speaker 3: the cargo arrived, it was on an air cargo pallette
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  Speaker 3: which is seven y nine, and there was a He
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  Speaker 3: could see that there was a person on the palate
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  Speaker 3: in the fetal position, and this individual was so large
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  Speaker 3: that his hands and his feet and part of his
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  Speaker 3: head were hanging off a palette, and he and his loadmaster,
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  Speaker 3: and there were some marines who accompanied the pellet, who
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  Speaker 3: accompanied this cargo. They were actually putting their feet up
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  Speaker 3: to this guy's feet, this dead giant's feet, and seeing
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  Speaker 3: how small their feet were compared to his. Now the
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  Speaker 3: giant had red hair. He had six fingers on each hand,
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  Speaker 3: six toes on each foot. His feet were wrapped in
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  Speaker 3: like a crude canvas foot wrapping, and he was solid
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  Speaker 3: as a rock. Again, most of his body was covered
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  Speaker 3: by a tart but the pilot and the guys around
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  Speaker 3: him were hitting him with their fists, and he came
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  Speaker 3: up to about their midsection, laying in the fetal position,
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  Speaker 3: and the pilot told me he was solid as a rock,
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  Speaker 3: this guy. And he asked the Marines what happened? Where
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  Speaker 3: did this guy come from? And they told him that
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  Speaker 3: they had heard that there was a team that was
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  Speaker 3: out in Afghanistan that was looking for Taliban or something,
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  Speaker 3: and they came upon a cave because there was a
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  Speaker 3: nearby village in the villagers where we're bringing food and
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  Speaker 3: other artifacts of the mouth of this cave, and so
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  Speaker 3: they thought that they're aiding and abetting the Taliban. So
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  Speaker 3: they went into the cave and rather than encountering the Taliban,
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  Speaker 3: what they found was this enormous humanoid who killed them all.
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  Speaker 3: And then according to these soldiers, they deployed another team
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  Speaker 3: to go look for that team, and when they found
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  Speaker 3: the cave, they found the traces of that other team.
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  Speaker 3: They were ready, they were prepared, and they were able
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  Speaker 3: to kill the giant. In fact, the soldiers told the
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  Speaker 3: pilot that the giant was eating on members of the
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  Speaker 3: team who had who killed previously. But these new guys
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  Speaker 3: they took him down and then they had a transport
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  Speaker 3: helicopter come in and airlift him to Bogram.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever try to find records of who was
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  Speaker 1: there and casualties that were reported, deaths that were reported.
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  Speaker 3: It's very difficult. The Pentagon actually released a statement some
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  Speaker 3: years ago, which is bizarre to me, you know, basically saying,
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  Speaker 3: in paraphrasing, the Kandahar Giant incident never happened. There was
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  Speaker 3: never a giant that was killed in Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 2: The Pentagon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a recent It was like a spokesman
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  Speaker 3: from the Pentagon or something, or a release from the Pentagon.
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  Speaker 1: Is this available online?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they actually felt the need to debunk this.
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  Speaker 2: That's hilarious. Now, that gets me sketchy.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I believed the pilot because he was a very
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  Speaker 3: credible guy. He didn't want his name out there, he
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  Speaker 3: didn't want fame or notoriety. He was very nervous. He
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  Speaker 3: thought there's a good chance that going to recognize me
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  Speaker 3: by my voice. He was on Coast to coast a
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  Speaker 3: m and then he's on in our documentary. There's a
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  Speaker 3: good chance I'm going to get recognized and there's going
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  Speaker 3: to be some reprisal. He was nervous. Now. They weighed
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  Speaker 3: the giant before they loaded him on the Sea one thirty,
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  Speaker 3: because they have to load everything that goes under the
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  Speaker 3: sea one third. The load master weighed him. He weighed
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  Speaker 3: eleven hundred pounds, and they estimated his height at ten
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  Speaker 3: to twelve feet tall. And so they loaded him onto
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  Speaker 3: the C one thirty and then they flew him to Qatar,
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  Speaker 3: and then they unloaded the cargo and Qatar and the
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  Speaker 3: and our pilot told me he heard through the grapevine
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  Speaker 3: that the body ended up at right Patterson Air Force Base.
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  Speaker 3: He said, I don't know, that's just what I heard.
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  Speaker 3: So this is a first hand account from the C
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  Speaker 3: one thirty pilot who flew the body himself from Barbara
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  Speaker 3: Airfield to Qatar.
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  Speaker 1: Why does all the weird shit go to right Patterson's
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  Speaker 1: good question.
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  Speaker 2: You know that's where the weird shit goes.
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  Speaker 3: Right Patterson used to have the Blue Room I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if they still have it, but they used to
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  Speaker 3: have a room there called the Blue Room, where they
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  Speaker 3: had all of the alien artifacts that had been recovered
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  Speaker 3: that they were studying, and it was completely off limits
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  Speaker 3: to anybody except for people who had access, the very
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  Speaker 3: few who had access. But the Kandahar Giant, you know
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  Speaker 3: that story. A colleague of mine, Eli Marsoulli, he had
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  Speaker 3: another guy come to him, a different guy. We interviewed
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  Speaker 3: the pilot step and I LA had another guy come
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  Speaker 3: to him that was I can't remember the details. He
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  Speaker 3: was a Special Forces guy. He had firsthand knowledge of
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  Speaker 3: the event as well. And we're not sure if it's
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  Speaker 3: the same one or a different one, if it's if
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  Speaker 3: there was just one incident with the giants or if
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  Speaker 3: there were multiple incidents. Now years later, this would be
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  Speaker 3: just a couple of years ago, because we published that
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  Speaker 3: film I think back in twenty sixteen, but just a
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  Speaker 3: couple of years ago. And I do have to be
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  Speaker 3: very careful here. I ran into a gentleman who was
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  Speaker 3: who was very high up, let's say, in the operations
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  Speaker 3: happening out there during the Iraq War and in Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 3: And this individual had he'd flown a lot of missions
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  Speaker 3: and he was a commander and I asked him. We
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  Speaker 3: were having a casual conversation and he starts to walk away,
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  Speaker 3: and I said, hey, you were in flying missions in
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  Speaker 3: Afghanists And I said, did you have you ever heard
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  Speaker 3: about the Kandahar Giant? And his wife was standing next
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  Speaker 3: to me and he's sort of walking away. He turns around.
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  Speaker 3: The blood rushes out of his face and he literally
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  Speaker 3: goes like this to me, points to his phone, and
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  Speaker 3: his wife whispers, he can't talk about that. So later
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  Speaker 3: on I was able to. We agreed to meet it
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  Speaker 3: later on and in a very controlled environment, and he
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  Speaker 3: related a story to me that's the most wild story
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  Speaker 3: I've ever heard of my life. And I'm sorry I
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  Speaker 3: can't relate it. I love this guy, I want to
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  Speaker 3: protect him. But it's not the Giant of Candahar. It's
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  Speaker 3: the giants of Kandahar. There's more than one. The military
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  Speaker 3: has known about it. Then, aside from him, I talked
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  Speaker 3: to other soldiers who've also who've also had knowledge of
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  Speaker 3: that the specific incident that I decided earlier, but then
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  Speaker 3: also in general, the giants in Afghanistan. And I have
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  Speaker 3: a friend of mine who I met some years ago. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: I was with Alu Alisando at Loose Bar in Wyoming
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  Speaker 3: and there is a friend of Luz who's now a
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  Speaker 3: friend of mine there and we were talking about the
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  Speaker 3: Kandahar Giant. I was just telling him the story I
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  Speaker 3: told you, and he just couldn't believe it. He thought,
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  Speaker 3: this is this is nuts, this is crazy. And I said, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: do something for me. Next time you're talking to somebody
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  Speaker 3: in government or in the military who you think maybe
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  Speaker 3: might know something about this, bring it up. See what happens.
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  Speaker 3: So he called me one day and he said, Tim,
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to believe it. He said, I was
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  Speaker 3: talking to I have to be very careful here too.
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  Speaker 3: He said, I was talking to a certain individual who
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  Speaker 3: works for a senator. He's a he's a staffer. I
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  Speaker 3: think I believe he's one of the a chief of
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  Speaker 3: staff for the senator or at the very least an advisor.
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  Speaker 3: And he's got a military background, special Forces. And he said,
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  Speaker 3: I was sitting there. We're really good friends. He said,
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  Speaker 3: we're having a casual conversation as we always do. And
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  Speaker 3: just in the midst of this conversation, I said, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: what do you know about the Kandahar giant. And he said,
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  Speaker 3: his face completely contorted, and he was no longer just
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  Speaker 3: they were no longer just being and laughing. He became
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  Speaker 3: very stern and he and he said, what have you
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  Speaker 3: gotten yourself into? What are you looking into? He said,
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  Speaker 3: you need to be really careful, and he wouldn't tell
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  Speaker 3: him anything else. That's the kind of reaction that that
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  Speaker 3: I get and others get whenever we try and get
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  Speaker 3: information on this story.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very fun story. I don't know why it's
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  Speaker 1: so fun, but it's very fun. But the question is
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  Speaker 1: what would be the reason why they would want to
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  Speaker 1: keep something like this a secret. I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: totally understand it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't either.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if there really.
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  Speaker 1: Were a race of giants that survived, Let's let's assume
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  Speaker 1: that what we're talking about is what's referenced in the Bible. Right,
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's assume or at least the Book of Enoch, right,
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  Speaker 1: the nephilimb right. If we're talking about giants, like the
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  Speaker 1: thing about giants is like Native Americans have stories about
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  Speaker 1: redheaded giants. They talk about the same thing, about them
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  Speaker 1: having six fingers and six toes, they have these same myths,
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  Speaker 1: Like how is it that people from the Middle East
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  Speaker 1: and people from North America have this same ancient story
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  Speaker 1: and what is it? What is it in reference to?
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  Speaker 2: Like why does that it's ubiquitous? This?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the legends of giants are universal.
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  Speaker 2: All over the Why I hide that? That's what I understand.
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  Speaker 1: Like the stories about the Smithsonian are always fascinating because
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  Speaker 1: the stories are there have been archaeological digs and they
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  Speaker 1: have discovered like enormous femurs that they thought were like
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  Speaker 1: wooly mammoths or something, and then they realize like, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is a giant human. And they find hair and
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  Speaker 1: the hair is red, and that they and that they
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  Speaker 1: take these bones and they tuck them away somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is always the myth.
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  Speaker 1: They tuck them away in the basement of the Smithsonian
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  Speaker 1: or somewhere else, And for whatever reason, the general public
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  Speaker 1: is not a lie to know about this. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't totally understand what is it about giants that they
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  Speaker 1: would try to key from us, Like if they find
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  Speaker 1: a new species of dinosaur that's extinct, they'll let you know,
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  Speaker 1: fascinating or amazing. They find Homo floresciensis or however you
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  Speaker 1: say it, the little hobbit people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Let you know, look, we found a.
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  Speaker 1: Little hobbit people, pretty cool giants for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it is a it's a conundrum. And if
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  Speaker 3: it's real, it's you think it's the giants in general?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, what makes you think it's real?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So let me tell you why I think that
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  Speaker 3: this thing is being covered up and then and then
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you why I think it's real, and we'll
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  Speaker 3: go to Sardinia for that. So I, like you have
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  Speaker 3: been wondering for a long time, like what is the
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  Speaker 3: big deal? And initially, people in my field, especially people
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  Speaker 3: who are coming from a biblical perspective, the common answer is, well,
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  Speaker 3: the existence of giants would affirm the Biblical narrative, right,
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  Speaker 3: and so these secular atheist types don't want the biblical
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  Speaker 3: narrative affirm. That can't be right because the existence of
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  Speaker 3: giants doesn't just affirm the Biblical narrative. It affirms the
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  Speaker 3: myths and legends of every ancient culture across the globe,
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  Speaker 3: including the Bible. So it's not something that's specific exclusive
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  Speaker 3: to the text of scripture. So it would just affirm
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  Speaker 3: all these legends in general. So the only thing that
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  Speaker 3: makes sense to me at this point, and the other
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  Speaker 3: line of thinking, by the way, would be that it
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  Speaker 3: would somehow conflict with the theory of evolution by natural selection,
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  Speaker 3: which I don't really buy into that either, because they
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  Speaker 3: would just say that this branch of humanoids they descended
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  Speaker 3: from gigantopithecus or something like that. I don't think it
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  Speaker 3: would be that difficult of a problem for the theory
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  Speaker 3: of evolution by natural selection either. I'm not myself an evolutionist,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't see them having that difficult of a
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  Speaker 3: problem here. So the only thing left on the table
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  Speaker 3: for me is that there's something very sinister going on
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  Speaker 3: in regard to the remains of giants. And if you
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  Speaker 3: study the mythology of giants all over the world, especially
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  Speaker 3: in the ancient Near East, you will discover that there
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  Speaker 3: was in fact a cult of giants, that there were
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  Speaker 3: cultures that venerated giants, and that there was a very
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  Speaker 3: particular belief about giants. And this goes back into the
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  Speaker 3: Book of Enoch, and the idea is that this race
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  Speaker 3: of beings who are not entirely human, they're hybrids that
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  Speaker 3: when they die, you can still make contact with their spirits,
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  Speaker 3: with their souls, they can be summoned. They in fact,
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  Speaker 3: these are the demons that these are in the New
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  Speaker 3: Testament of the Bible. These are the demons that possess people.
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  Speaker 3: This is the origin of demons, by the way, in
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  Speaker 3: Hebrew cosmology. So there's this pervasive idea again, especially in
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  Speaker 3: the ancient Near East, that dead giants can be communicated
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  Speaker 3: with and can possess living human beings their spirits, and
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  Speaker 3: so you have a cult of giants of the ancient Erees,
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  Speaker 3: especially among the Canaanites, and the Canaanites they had Actually
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  Speaker 3: there's various customs and rights related to giants, but one
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  Speaker 3: of the specific ones that we know about is called
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  Speaker 3: kissp them, the right of kiss them. And there's a
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  Speaker 3: fantastic book written by my friends Derek and Shearon Gilbert
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  Speaker 3: called Veneration where they detail the right of kiss them,
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  Speaker 3: and this idea of making contact with the spirits of
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  Speaker 3: dead giants and the veneration of giants and the right
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  Speaker 3: of kisp them was it was practiced broadly speaking in
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  Speaker 3: the ancient arees, but specifically among the Amorites and other
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  Speaker 3: Canaanite plans as well. And what they would do is
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  Speaker 3: they would hold a feast and then they would invite
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  Speaker 3: dead to come and join them at the feast. So
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  Speaker 3: this was a necromantic right. And they would they would
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  Speaker 3: evoke the dead, and they believed that the dead would
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  Speaker 3: come and eat with them. Now, the kings, and specifically
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  Speaker 3: the Amorite kings, they would invoke the spirits of the
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  Speaker 3: Mighty Ones, the Great Ones, the giants of old, the Refaeen.
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  Speaker 3: The Biblical account names various different clans of giants that
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  Speaker 3: inhabited the Levant during and after the conquest by Joshua
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  Speaker 3: and the Hebrews. And you had the Anachem, who descended
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  Speaker 3: from the Nepheleine. You had the Refaem, the Zamzumim, the Emim.
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  Speaker 3: These are various clans of giants that are specifically named
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  Speaker 3: in the Bible. Of course, we get Goliath of Gath.
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  Speaker 3: Gath as a Philistine city. After Joshua entered the Promised Land,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: they drove out and eradicated a lot of these giant clans,
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  Speaker 3: but some of them remained. Some of the individuals remained,
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  Speaker 3: and they were primarily went to the Philistine cities of Gaza,
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  Speaker 3: Gath and Ashdod, and so you have Goliath of Gaff,
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  Speaker 3: who David encounters later in the biblical text. So it's
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  Speaker 3: these heroes of old, these descendants of the Nepheline, that
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  Speaker 3: the Amorites and the ancient Near Easterners are attempting to
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  Speaker 3: make contact with because they have knowledge and they these
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  Speaker 3: are possessing spirits, and so the right of kisspom that
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  Speaker 3: the kings would summon the Refaine by name, and you
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  Speaker 3: can find this in the Eugaritic texts. Yugurit was an
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  Speaker 3: Amorite city state located on the shore of the Mediterranean
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  Speaker 3: in what is today northern Syria, and they have uncovered
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  Speaker 3: documents where the Amorit kings are summoning, specifically by names,
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  Speaker 3: summoning dead giants the Refaen and the idea is to
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  Speaker 3: summon them and then to become empowered by their spirits.
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  Speaker 3: They're possessing it. Again, this goes back to the tradition
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  Speaker 3: of Enoch that the giants when they die, their spirits
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  Speaker 3: are in sort of a state of suspended animation, and
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: they can be revived, they can be resurrected, as it were,
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  Speaker 3: and and can be made to inhabit the bodies of
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  Speaker 3: human beings. So there's this ancient cult that existed in
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: the ancient Near East and in other parts of the world,
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  Speaker 3: and it's associated with the cult of Bale. So you have.
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  Speaker 2: Bail.
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  Speaker 3: The giants were thought of as the warriors of Bail.
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  Speaker 3: So today we know that the cult of Bale persists.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I mean the Epstein Files, we know that the cult
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: of Bale is still being practiced.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: When you say the Epstein Files, what do you mean?
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: There's references to Bail, and there's there's the there's this
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: recurrent theme of Baal worship and Bail Jesus. Jesus refers
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: to Bail as Satan in the New Testament, so it's
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: basically Satanism. It's it's a Satanic cult.
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  Speaker 1: And how's it reference in the Epstein Files.
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  Speaker 3: There's some there's some references to Bail. I can't remember
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: the exact references, but there's there's a there's apparently a
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: cult of Bail, and the elites are obsessed with some
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: of the elites. I don't know who or how many
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: of them, but it's becoming increasingly apparent that there's a
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: a that there's an infatuation with these ancient Near Eastern cults,
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  Speaker 3: specifically the Canaaniddish cults. And so the reason why I'm
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: going through all of this is because I think it's
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: still alive and well today in society, and I believe
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: that they're using the bones the remains of giants in
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: these practices. I think it's extremely dark. I think this
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: is part of the reason why, part of the reason
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  Speaker 3: why there may be a cover up around it. Nothing
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: else makes sense to me. Nothing else makes sense to
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: me in terms of the cover up, in terms of
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: the coverable we're talking about it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: It makes sense to me that you have incredibly powerful,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: wealthy people that don't want to be exposed as being
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: perverts and.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever the fuck they were up to.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: And there's all the weird shit with beef jerky and pizza,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you know, there's these very strange references that seem to
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: not be talking about beef jerky and it's some kind
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: of code. And there's also the fact that he brought
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: an enormous amount of sulfuric acid, like right after he
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: was indicted to the island. I forget how many gallons
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: of it, but barrels of sulfuric acid, which is what
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you would use to dissolve bodies.