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The MLB Report with Paul Tipton & Will Retherford (2.288.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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  [SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to the Major League Baseball Report with Paul Tiffton and Will Rutherford every week on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome Major League Baseball fans of the Central Indiana Sports Report for this week's Major League Baseball Report with Paul Tiffton and Will Rutherford.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: here to talk some major league baseball what's been going on over the last week or two in baseball.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But I want to start with this.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I see an article earlier today about the way players are drafted is about to change.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I want to know what the NCAA did in terms of monetary endorsement to the MLB for this, because I really don't feel like this benefits the MLB at all.
• 0:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think this benefits college baseball.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think you could make it an argument with making this standard age for people to be drafted nationally 20 years old and internationally 18, but I can't help but wonder, does this really benefit people in the game?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: who get development from majorly grossers at the age of 18 if they come out after high school.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know there's been this growth in the college baseball game the last, I think five to 10 years so there's been a huge push of improvements in terms of technology in terms of obviously financial compensation for baseball players and facilities.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't see where this still helps out majorly baseball though.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It feels to me that this makes it more difficult for
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  [SPEAKER_00]: international players to get here.
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes these MLB franchises are getting these kids as young as 16 making a significant monetary investment and they're even if it's as much as $10,000.
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's more money than most of these kids families have seen in 50 years.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: that's definitely beneficial for them, it gets them in the United States, gets them on the fast track for visas, gets them ingrained in American culture, speaking English, so that they can transition to the majorly game effortlessly.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think waiting to do that until the age of 18, I don't know if that benefits them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, baseball is the only sport that you have to make a decision at the age of 18, whether you want to get drafted to go to college.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This obviously eliminates that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't see the players you mean liking this at all.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And my take, I really, I don't see them as thinking this is a benefit.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it pushes back when players are getting their first real paycheck at the MLB level, even later.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: it is potentially extending the amount of time they're at or yeah, but everybody in the unions already gotten their first paycheck.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the problem.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They're not thinking about first paycheck anymore.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The discouraging thing to me was the language as we try to hash out some kind of agreement in the long term.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This first idea we have praise from the NCAA and then the language of the
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  [SPEAKER_01]: seem to be it discourage me about how much they see this as a problem as a part of the ongoing problem and you know perhaps the salary cap and all this other business.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean where does this fix the salary cap?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I mean that that seems to be the only real pressing issue that we have right now in major of the baseball houses, it's fixed that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't see
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  [SPEAKER_00]: language in here that didn't even talk talks about the elimination of competitive balance picks currently awarded annually to lower revenue or smaller market teams.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Why is that a bad thing?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know that some would see it as socialism in the game that is inherently capitalistic.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But that is how you get an organization like the white socks, how you get an organization like the Detroit Tigers, the Kansas City Royals.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's how, I mean, Bobby Jr. wouldn't be on the Royals now, and obviously he was taking, I think it, you know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: first round, not even a competitive balance pick, but still just limits the small market opportunities from being able to get great free arbitration years from these major league players.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't see where this fixes the game.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think this just creates more issues.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: for everybody, a reduction in the draft lottery from six picks to four.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I don't know if you look over the past 10 years who the worst, six teams have been based on record, but my guess is they're disappointed in this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If you're the six worth team, you're struggling financially to keep a float, you're struggling to really bring in a player that rallies the fan base.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now you don't have the opportunity to do that.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just, this is,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: to me, just feels like, you know, shit in your pain, some change in your shirt.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's just no fifth somewhere.
• 4:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've never heard that thing, but I like it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not bad.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you want to see the two sides have some kind of compromise and they just seem to be digging their heels in on,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: on an issue that is tangential but could be seen as a proposal or the acceptance of this and I don't understand all of it but you would want it to be a little more cordial as you or at least lay a foundation for future success and it's pretty discouraging.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the one thing out in the how you feel pulling Greg, I do like the ability to trade draft the X. I think that's probably something the league should have fixed a while back ago.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like every other league does that I think it makes for exciting trade deadlines.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it makes exciting for teams going all in.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, you could always make the argument that it doesn't necessarily benefit small market teams, it can turn them into basically just minor league teams for the Uber wealthy of major level of baseball, but that's been a problem the last 50 years.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So nothing's changing there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Why not?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the draft fix.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a good idea.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you're a bad team, why not stack draft picks, try to get three or four, you know, picks,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: the first round and all the sudden, you can really you hit on those pictures, change the whole nucleus of your roster around.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if these are three position players, that's a third of your lineup that you can now count on for six years of pre-arbitration.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess four years of pre-arbitration than the fifth and six years of arbitration numbers, but you can count on them for dependable production.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That feels like a win within the language of this plan.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the only thing that jumps off to me is, okay, this has been a fit I think for the teams and the league is a whole.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But you didn't get the players association even going that far.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I don't, I just, I see this as a, at whole diversion, you know, we're going to throw a smoke bomb somewhere, but we're going to attack elsewhere.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This, this just feels weird.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The timing of its strange.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I hate the billionaire on billionaire battles.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's gross, it hurts nothing, but the fan base baseball's finally gotten to this point.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think with the evolution of the pitch clock evolution of the ABS evolution of widening the bags, like where people are really starting to engage in the game again, and this is just, this couldn't happen at a worse time.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: And unfortunately, the suits and New York City are not going to be able, I think, to
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  [SPEAKER_00]: vent with the understanding that the common people don't really give a shit when you're talking about, you know, $150 billion.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's foreign to them.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Alright guys, let's talk a little bit about the latest major league baseball news and nothing much has happened in our division, the National Accidental and I think you're pretty much at the point,
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can see that the brave Dodgers and Brewers are going to win the three divisions in the national league.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: But man, nine teams within two and a half games of the League of the Wild Card is insane.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is kind of crazy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What I did looking at the standings today is notice the last ten games.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: What I find is very interesting.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... no team went uh... over seven wins out of the last ten games nobody in baseball and only two teams did that and things are five hundred teams the marlins and the twins and the team that has the worst record over the last ten games is the atlanta brave who beat misarrowski on friday night and uh...
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: their record would have been two and eight except that Aussie Albee's snuck a ball over the fence in Atlanta, Saturday night, so they just barely won that game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The Dodgers are running away with things because the Padres and Dimebacks are struggling, but the
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  [SPEAKER_01]: the Dodgers just lost two out of three to the Baltimore Orioles and they should have lost that other game too because Will's favorite reliever healthly messed it up on Friday night.
• 9:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Paul, I think you're kind of spying on.
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do think it's curious right now.
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we're getting to this point in the season where we really are kind of starting to see who's going to be buyers and sellers.
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like we kind of have the same rosters that we always do.
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I find it really curious that nobody in the Ailes Central has a run differential above negative four.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's unbelievable.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is crazy.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: In terms of the central, I think we have finally started to seeing cream rise to the top.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the Cardinals and Cubs on paper are probably the two teams behind the brewers.
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I really think the way that both of them are playing right now, they're worthy of playoff spots.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the pod drinks have way too many weaknesses.
• 10:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I just can't help with Tati's at something.
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just off.
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: They feel Audrey.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just something's not right.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be a sports administration master's thesis.
• 10:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure at some point of the cost effectiveness of building superteams.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like there's this little thing that you can't really, but you can, and I think of another perfect example, you can't put a monetary amount on chemistry and how people gel and how people fill roles and fill niches within an organization.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's the same issue that you see in corporate America.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's no difference if you just do a buy all the top in talent, then you've got a whole lot of generals and not enough foot soldiers.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think with the Padres and Meds, that's the problem.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Is it everybody's me?
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody, you know, wants to be the leader and there's not enough people willing to humble themselves and just be what the ball club needs and baseball to me is a game that requires that your seven hole hitter was at one time the best player in the county.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: probably the best player in the state, and maybe the best player on his college team.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And now he's a seven hole hitter at the big league level.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But you've got to be willing to say, OK, I am willing to fill my role for the betterment of the team.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And right now, I think there's just a couple organizations that have really thrown dollars around that have not found guys that are willing to do.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: How about this, Red?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Took two out of three in Yankee Stadium.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: to come back to it.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: The NFL Central's is good as well predicted it would be.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that it's poised for a great end in terms of wildcard position.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like you said, a few minutes ago, the brewers are clearly the best team, but the reds have the pitching, but they just have to find runs.
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: They are just screaming and searching for runs desperately.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: then partly why you're seeing that record show.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know I like to give them a lot of flag, but let's be honest, he's a best player by a lot.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's not having.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: if they can stay around 500 like they are when he comes back then there is possibility they could they could still make the playoffs I think yeah and then there's the hunter green question I that's just so wrapped in they just treat him it's like Zion Greg I feel like there's just never an update for search him for one
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's fortunately just got started in the ACLU through his first game back every half-star.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I, it's a type of player, I think, changes the nucleus of that organization when he's right.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he is truly an ace when his stuff is on and you want him back in that rotation.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're talking about a team too that really has not gotten the production they thought from Andrew Abbott.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think after the year he had last year, they're still searching for that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's not been as good, he's not been as crisp.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the Brady singer, Jonathan Indy, a trade and we talked about it last time.
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the guy to be the biggest example of a loose, loose trade in the last five years because neither team got any better.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Time to see if Brady can hack it out of the bullpen, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: An Emilio Pagon getting him healthy again.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: You think the reds have really been snake bitten?
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but they've been snake bitten for three years.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can never stay healthy.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can never score runs.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's the same story every year.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll only this year.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're a little more talented.
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anything in the American League, touch your eyes guys?
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I always look forward to seeing what our consensus of what team is hot because
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: We pointed out the Tampa Bay race and that cooled them off very quickly.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then we talked about the Chicago white socks and then they cooled up very quickly too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't see anybody who's really hot right now although the fillies still show signs of potential.
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: What about the tiger's guess?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Can I start to believe now in the tiger?
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Fortunately, that division is bad enough that I think you probably can still believe.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have to do it without Justin Verlander who just today has been pushed back trying to make at the age of 43 another few starts before the end.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So retire.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Stop.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're, we in the desert here are hoping that the Diamondbacks, because he's Owen won this year, the Diamondbacks could go down as the last team to defeat him.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: just like, you know, that they sit kind of on terror back to the bullpen, guys been a one whip, a 1.0 whip pitcher the entire year.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's been great.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was kind of been a surprise.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, a honesty, especially with, you know, tarp school, not being available, I still think there's a big chance that school was traded.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: That seems to be that that conversation is really turning up.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen Jeff pass and talking on Twitter about it.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: But why would you take Montero back to the bullpen for Verlander?
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the guy has become a meatball pitcher at this point.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: He has no business pitch in the major league.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's been a great run.
• 15:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're a no doubt, Hall of Famer.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: You've got a great wife who's made an awful lot of money in her career.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You have children, just the tire.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting, you're embarrassing yourself now.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would hate to be the general manager of the Tigers,
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: decisions, whatever he's offered for school, you can see get the right package for the team and compensation, but you could also see holding on to them or trying to hold on to them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There's just no way that you can not take a deal, but doesn't give you the farm, the processing plant, and the stock exchange to get them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, him and skins are probably the only two that are even in that same tier.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it would be a shame.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Them trading him is not going to help this CBA conversation.
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: That is exactly right.
• 16:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Indeed.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess it's probably about time we do our rumors in speculation podcast with the Trade Deadline kind of sneaking up on us soon in next week or two.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a bone up.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my sources are definitely there.
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Add Jeff Passing's great on Twitter if you just follow him.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: See what he says, typically you can be a really informed baseball fan for the most part.
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got good sources as well.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the best, it's actually free.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I had to make no relationships.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've had to not do any grab-ass, any kissing babies, nothing.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: No politics, and I've just been able to get on Twitter a free site to use.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Although they do always ask me if I want to get verified, I don't.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to do that.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to get on there for free and see what Jeff Passen said.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Alright.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Paul, thank you so much.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got to listen to Will's terminology here.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: This shit in your pants and changing your shirt.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the processing plant.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: What was that?
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was the form, the processing plant, the stock exchange.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was going to be all fine.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was going to be all fine.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can change it.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: You could turn a phrase.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: So A plus performance today will.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: A plus performance.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much to Will and Paul, as always.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for listening.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Please join us again next week.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Central Indiana Sports Report is a product of ITG media, and I love music.