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BONUS EPISODE: Pgh Sports Current Events - October 23, 2025 · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hello and welcome to another exciting edition of Pittsburgh Sports Memories Current Events.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: This is going to be published on the 23rd of October, Tim.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_00: Are you ready for this?
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So as usual, I'm your co-host, Steve Wirt, and I'm joined by I'm Tim Hannon.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_00: And uh topics, uh, let's start with uh the old hockey here.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh can you believe the Penguins are off to a five and two start with 10 points?
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I think they're tied with a bunch of other teams for 10 points.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: I what are we?
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: We're seven games in.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_00: They always the old saying is you really like where you where you stand at Thanksgiving is normally where you'll end up in the final standings, and that's like true like 90% of the time.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll see what where they are in Thanksgiving.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: But uh boy, this has been a fun ride while it lasts.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully the goaltending, you know, can stay okay enough to win or you know, hold up.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but uh I guess the young kids are playing the system and uh that's helping things out.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's you know, Malkin isn't taking too many stupid penalties, but um five to one over Vancouver the other day.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: So that's not like a you know a joke win, I don't think.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, the five five and two.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: The one game that they lost, I think it was Anaheim, it was like in the last minute.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the only really bad game they played was that game against the Rangers where they got blown out, and every other game they've either been right in it till the end or they've won, which is just shocking.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this was supposed to be a throwaway season.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: It it still might be.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they're they're still playing Jari a lot, too, aren't they?
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like every other game with him still.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think they're trying to trade him again.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: I who would trade I don't even know why they have him.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: That's well, they tried to get rid of him last year, but nobody picked him up on waivers.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, and they and the the guys from Wilkesbury are almost done.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like they only play like what nine games, or did they only send all them back?
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: No, I mean it it it's nine games, but it's now I mean, I wonder what they're gonna do now with with um some of them.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: I I think Kindle they'll still send away, but but uh yeah, it's it's I mean, it's good.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they're doing it.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_01: I think the nice thing about when they win as opposed to when the Steelers do well is that this is the group of guys that we're gonna have, you know, really moving forward.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_01: So there's investment here when they win.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and it's not just like, oh, I hope they have a good season so we can start, you know, the rebuild process with a new quarterback or fill-in-the-blank position next year.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so it's it's nice to see.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see if it continues.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I said, in Thanksgiving, I think we'll know where we stand.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: And if they're in the playoff standings, even if it's just as the eighth seed, I mean, then you never know.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: You never know.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, moving on to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, the 52 players, which isn't the final final list, but it's a final, it's you know, a decent cutdown list.
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  SPEAKER_00: Three pit players are on it, Tim.
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  SPEAKER_00: LaShawn McCoy, Larry Fitzgerald, Ruben Brown.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I would handicap their chances as Larry Fitzgerald is a lock.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he's getting in.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_00: LaShawn McCoy is a very borderline case.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_00: I think he has 10,000 yards, doesn't he?
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_00: Or I think he's over 10.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_00: I he's he's got a lot of yards, but he's not considered like an all-time grade.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: He's considered a good.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_00: He probably won't if he gets in, it'll probably take him a while.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_00: And then Ruben Brown, who is a good player, all pro, but I don't think he makes the Hall of Fame.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: So what say you, Tim?
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Larry's Lalock, like you said.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't I don't think Laton McCoy's getting in.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not in the first ballot, maybe not on the fifth ballot.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: He might have to go to like a veterans committee.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like I could see him getting in then, maybe.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe people appreciate him more the longer it goes, but I I don't know.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_00: Ruby Brown, I don't I think he made the Pro Bowl a couple times.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't and it's tough, like offensive linemen.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: How do you really judge how good or bad they are?
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: LaShawn McCoy does have 11,000 yards.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean that that's he's a very borderline case.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like if people if he gets in, people say, Oh, it's just a hall of very good now.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like you hear that a lot.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: So I I don't know.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: Was he the top 10 running backs in his generation?
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe, maybe running backs really are so watered down anymore.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's not the position it was in the 1970s where it was the be-all end-all.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of almost like an afterthought.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of teams use running back committee, and in a 17-game season, you almost have to.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Steve, here's your other running backs who are in that list of 52.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: So if you want to compare him against just his position, Warwick Dunn, Eddie George, Frank Gore, Marshawn Lynch, Lorenzo Neal, Fred Taylor, and Ricky Waters.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh boy.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't know if Fred Taylor gets in.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's a Ricky Waters probably won't.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_01: Fred Taylor was a finalist last year.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_01: He's close.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: He's closer than he's closer than LaShawn McCoy.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: Eddie George, how many is Eddie George?
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_00: He was good.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like once again, it's kind of the hall of very good at that point.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think I think Frank Gore is probably a lock on there.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_01: I think.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: Because he's just he played for like a million years.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: He he he you know who has more rushing yards than Frank Gore, Steve?
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know who.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_01: Walter Payton and Emmett Smith.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, because well, but didn't he have a he had a much longer career for whatever?
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't matter.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying that's that's the list.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: I bet yards per carry would be an interesting stat with Frank Gore.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_01: But still, I mean, you still, I mean, I think that makes him a lock, right?
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you ever looked at Gail Sayers' yards per carry, it's like insane.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's like five point something, or it's like a crazy yards per carry.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_01: But that's it.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_01: Walter Payton and Emmett Smith are the only two running backs who have more yards than Frank Gore.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: So I think he's in.
• 6:16
  unknown: Yeah.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh staying with the topic of Pitt, uh, Pitt has won again.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: They are now what?
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_00: Are they five and two, Tim, or four and two?
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: They're five and two.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: Five.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: So they have five wins and two losses.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: They won again an ACC play.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_00: They beat Florida State.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: They've now beat Syracuse, both on the road.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: I I mean, I was listening to some of the local guys, and they think Pitt has a chance to win some games here.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um did you I I got to watch the game.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: It was um not pretty.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_01: Got to watch the game.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: I I I I watched the game.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: It was brutal.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_01: That was so brutal.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_00: I've never seen a game with that many flags in my life.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there was a lot of penalties, and Syracuse quarterback was hurt.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, I I I don't know what to say about this pit team.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: I think the defense is okay, but once again, I think they're down to like their third or fourth string line defensive linemen.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: And even linebackers they're thin at.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: So I do not I I'm kind of skeptical if they're gonna make seven wins, Tim.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_00: I really am.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: I I they maybe they make six, maybe.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: All they gotta do is beat NC State and or Stanford, but Florida State lost to Stanford in Stanford, so I I don't know.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I they never beat NC State, so I could see them losing the rest of their games the rest of the way.
• 7:41
  unknown: Yeah.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: Or they could do something stupid like Pitt always does, beat NC State, lose to Stanford, and then beat like Georgia Tech.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like that could be your seven.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: That would probably that's probably what's going to happen just because why not?
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: But I think their injuries are just too much to overcome.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: The quarterback looks like he's a little banged up and kind of came down to earth now that they've had a couple games of tape on him.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: But I will say this, he doesn't hang his head after he throws interceptions.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: He seems to stay with it.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't he doesn't throw interceptions in the fourth quarter right now, so that seems like a good thing.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_00: I I think Pitts ceiling is seven wins, and I think they'll be lucky to make that at this point.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't see them beating Notre Dame or Miami.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_00: I just too many injuries.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: I yeah, the the schedule's weird because the next two games are NC State and Stanford, and Stanford's a road game.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: And then the last three games are just brutal.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: The the last three games of the season are against three teams who are currently in the top twelve.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: So um I I don't know.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: I I I really don't know.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I think they'll get to seven.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_01: They could surprise us and get to eight or nine.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you never know.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's really gonna depend how far that this Heinkel kid takes them, I think, at this point on offense because really what they have to do.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: I I just think the defense is too beat up.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: If the defense was healthier, I'd be more confident.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'd be saying seven wins, yeah, that's probably where they're gonna end up.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: But now that they're down to like, you know, they they were talking on the broadcast, they're gonna have to go recruit out of the student body.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_00: It was a joke, but I mean they're they're really banged up, aren't they?
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: They are.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: And and the other the other X factor is Desmond Reed, who's gonna be a good one.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, there's another game.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: He's hurt.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm always like, oh my gosh, he made it to like the middle of the third quarter.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like that's the furthest he's ever made into a game without limping off the field.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it it it's it's unfortunate because they do have a a pretty decent team, I think, this year, but uh I don't know.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see what happens.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: And and NC State, I think they should win.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you said they never beat NC State Steve, but they've they've literally played them three times in the last 20 years.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: I know they've lost all three of them, but it's that's not much of a sample size.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: So they beat they beat him when Phillip Rivers was there, so in that bowl game.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: And that's going back a while.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's going back more than 20 years.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so next, moving to pro football, um the Steelers, Tim, I should have bet money.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: Boy, I I I wow, Mike Tomlin is the most predictable Mike Tomlin ever.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so they lost to the Bengals in a game that I think was the typical the Bengals needed it more than the Steelers.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: Not that the Steelers, I didn't think the Steelers didn't show up.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't think they were necessarily poorly coached.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_00: I still think it's the Joshes and Joes, not the X's and O's.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I I think that defense is just suspect.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: I I just am not buying the defense.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: I they they can't stop the run when they need to.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_00: And the the secondary is what it is.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a strong secondary.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: And like Aaron Rodgers, literally what cost them the game was Aaron Rodgers throwing that totally idiotic interception in the first half.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like the second interception, that was just a good play by Cincinnati.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: But the first interception was like, you had you need to throw that ball to the sideline, not down the middle of the fifth.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: That was just stupid.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: And in the double coverage, but he made up for it.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: He made a bunch of plays at the end, but maybe you don't I I and now, you know, I I don't know, Tim.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: What what do you think about the Steelers?
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: So I I have a couple of thoughts.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: So, first of all, before before my my thoughts, that it's so sickening when the defense just gets shredded like that.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like, like when when Rogers threw that touchdown pass to um Firemouth that with the it was like 220 left or something.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you knew they had to make a play on defense, and you knew you were hoping like Cincinnati would like if T Higgins would have been like dumb enough to score with like a minute 25 left, that would have played totally into the Steelers.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: But T.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: Higgins was too smart for that, and he was smart enough to fall down.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but but like when that when he threw that touchdown to Firemouth, it's like that I that you would have been normally as a fan, you're so you would have been so excited.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: It was like a 70-yard touchdown with two minutes left in the game.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, what a great play, and where you have the lead, but I didn't even get excited because I'm like, well, that's plenty of time.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: They're not like we can't stop them.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't even get them down to like a third or fourth down on that drive.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: I I mean it wasn't even remotely close.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: The middle of the field was wide.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so tired of this deep center field thing that they play where they leave the whole middle, like like Jamar Case.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know, in and I had Jamar Case in my fantasy league, so I wasn't I was upset, but I was at least at a silver lining because you're gonna be.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: See, this is what's wrong with fantasy football, Tim.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: You were rooting against the steel area.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: He caught like 47 passes.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: My goodness.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: And we ended more in a PPR league.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but but the this whole this deep center field thing where they leave the whole middle of the field open.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: I it it's like, okay, well, at least we don't give up a huge, huge long pass.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but if you give up 15, 20-yard passes to the middle of the field to the best receivers in football, what difference does it make?
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: So so the scheme is not good.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't I've never been a throw Austin fan, but I don't think it matters because Tomlin's gonna play Tomlin's defense no matter who's in there.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: But coaching does make a difference.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like Arthur Smith, we talked about that last week about what a huge difference the offense makes.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't see it with Joey.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, maybe Joey Porter Jr.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: could be good, but Darius Slay, Darius Slay is way over the like.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's not it's not like man for man, it's not a great unit.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's the other thing.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: This is not the days of you know, like like remember like the the days where you didn't only have you know Troy Palomolo and James Harrison, but you had Aaron Smith and Casey Hampton and Jason.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: Brian Clark, yeah Brian Clark and Ike, and like you had all these players, you know, even like Lawrence Timmins, like these guys that weren't superstars, but they were quality, like good defenders.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I just don't think you have a whole lot of that.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I know they keep saying, like, oh, highest paid unit and and you know, highest paid defense.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: That doesn't matter.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's just a waste that you're wasting your money.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: But that's just a product of when you sign contracts and the fact that you haven't had a franchise quarterback for five years, that's literally all that's a product of.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: So it's not like they invested in the defense for the sake of like abandoning the offense.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's just how things took out.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: So that's a that's an overrated stat that people cite.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's just not that good of a unit.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's not that well schemed.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I said all that.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: Here's my here's my like devil's advocate thoughts to that.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: Number one, those Thursday night games are such a crap dude.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think I think with an older team, it's a problem.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a good point, too.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like if you have a younger team, maybe you do a little bit.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: But look at the Eagles, they lost to the Giants.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and they're a veteran team.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: And and you know what?
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: They play each other this week on a Sunday.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: I bet's not anything to bet my.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's gonna be another, yeah.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: The Eagles are gonna blow them out of the water.
• 15:02
  unknown: Yeah.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Scatabuma and Dart look like they might be, but their coach, the Giants coach sucks.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: They need a real coach in New York.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like that that Dable, he's terrible.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: He he's just not a very good coach.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: So so so yeah, so Thursday night's a crapshoot.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: So that's so you can't really it's just a crapshoot of a game every every week.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: The other thing is like this this whole living game-to-game thing, because yeah, the defense is terrible, the defense is a problem.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: What's wrong with the defense?
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: But a week ago, you know, the defense was awesome.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if they're I I don't know, but like, how did they stop the run against Minnesota?
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm still like baffled by that.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I wonder if it's just like you said, it was just a short week and they're an older team, and when an older team has to play on a short week, they get really they just don't have it.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, and they don't and they can't practice.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you cannot practice from Sunday to Thursday.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: It is just ill-advised, stupid.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: You you can't practice, you just can't you you can't do anything in pads, and that's why like most times Thursday night football sucks because like the teams don't get the practice, like a real practice.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, the the the the you know, before uh the Bengals game probably probably two of the best young players in the league this year are Drake May and Quinsha Judkins for the Browns.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: And the the defense like totally shut down both of those completely.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: And and against the run Judkins, especially.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: Did you see what he did last week for the Browns?
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Scored like three touchdowns.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: I know he's I I I wonder if that's what it is.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: It just especially like when they play Baltimore, and Cleveland's, I guess, a pretty physical team too.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like, like when you play like especially back-to-back division opponents, yeah.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's the best wall.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: I think I think that matters.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: And and like Flacco, like I I know he's why why are 40-year-old quarterbacks still good, Tim?
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: Is this just the product of like you're the no defense league now?
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: How you're not allowed to hit anybody anymore?
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I think I I think that the yeah, the way the NFL that was going to be my other point.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: The way the NFL structured is that offense is good quarterbacks are always gonna be able to beat good defense.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Not always.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: We saw we saw it in the Super Bowl last year.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: Patrick Mahomes couldn't beat that Eagles defense.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: So not always, but but it's it's set up to favor good quarterbacks.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: And Flacco is still a good quarterback.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't I'm not sure why he keeps bouncing around from team to team, but he keeps proving over and over again.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: He led the Browns to the playoffs two years ago.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna say the Colts the Colts look pretty smart for their offseason.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: The Browns, I'm gonna go with Juju Smith Schuster on the Browns, right, Tim?
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Browns be Browns.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but so so uh the next three games, Steve, are against good offenses.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Green Bay, how are they gonna stop the run against Green Bay?
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: Green Bay's another team that has a really good, unless that guy's hurt.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I know he's been kind of hurt, but like if that guy's healthy, like I don't I mean, they did kind of have a mini buy.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm more worried about the week after against Jonathan Taylor, another guy that's on my fantasy team.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: There's another guy that's like really good, but they always like for some reason the Steelers always beat the Colts except for last year.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: I just have a feeling and that is that a Sunday night game, or I think that's but it's a home game.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's a home game.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: So they probably they probably win the like I could I don't think they beat the Chargers for whatever reason, but Green Bay, like, even if they can't stop the run, I think you're gonna see Aaron Rodgers.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I I think he's better not he's gonna play probably his best game of the season.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I yeah, I could see he came out today and said it or or the other day and said it's not a revenge game.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, yes, it is.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for him.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: You can he already was talking about it two two or three weeks ago about playing when he played the Jets, he mentioned Green Bay.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, Oh, we're not playing Green Bay yet.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he he's gonna look to play it.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: Now, maybe he presses and he makes a few mistakes.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll tell you what, that dude can still throw.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like, when they got the ball back with six seconds, I thought, eh, and I thought they're done.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: Then I was like, you know what?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: If they complete a pass, Aaron Rodgers has a history of completing Hail Mary.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: I couldn't believe he got that to the end zone.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: A God started DK Metcalf had a 50-50 chance at that ball.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's the best you can hope for is your best receiver has a 50-50 shot at it.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: Too bad Larry Fitzgerald couldn't come out of retirement for that that jump.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: Because like, if you have him throwing a Larry Fitzgerald on a Hail Mary for getting it, that's like money in the bank.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: I mean he threw it 70 yards, too, on the button.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that that dude still has it.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: I thought he was washed from New York.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: He he still has it.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: He can't run like he used to, but boy, his arm is as good as anything.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if he if he can hold out, that's like why that hurts too.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, they need to rest him late in the season.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: They need to get a big enough lead and things locked up to where they Mason Rudolph needs to play three games this year, so he's not totally, you know, worn out by the playoffs.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't see that.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: I don't see that happening at this point.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Because like you said last week, the other teams in the division are starting to get stronger again.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't I think Baltimore's done.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: The Browns be Browns.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: I I just something about the Bengals this year.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: If they can if Flacco can write the ship, I think they can they can hang in there till Burrow comes back.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: And it it might be a tougher decision when Burrow comes back, you know, what who they start.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll tell you who what you're right about was Kansas City.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's just gonna be Kansas City probably in the championship game because they looked like once they got their deep threat back, Kansas City looks back to normal.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that that's that's yeah, that's what I said last week.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like the whole league's upside down, you know, the the Colts are the Colts are the best team, and Tampa Bay is the best team in the NFC, and the Eagles are struggling, and the Bills are struggling, and the Lions for a while were struggling.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's like it doesn't matter.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's just gonna be Kansas City.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: Well, too, like I'll say this the only team that gives Kansas City fits is the Bengals.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe maybe that'll be a playoff game there.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: That would be a really interesting, especially if Burroughs coming back off his injury, which he comes back in December, doesn't he?
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: I I think I just don't believe in the Bengals.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know, Tim.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: There's something they they won their first game, and they were kind of humming along until Burrow got hurt, and now they got Flacco.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: They got a they got a veteran quarterback, and they don't have to win.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: They're I mean they're in a little bit of a hole.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: What are they?
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: Three and two, two and three?
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: Three.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: I think they're yeah, they they still have a losing record.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: I think they're three and four.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's something like that, yeah.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean they still got a hole to dig out of, but they I think they still got to play the Bears, right?
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: And then they can beat the Bears.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, they're yeah, we'll we'll see what happens, but I yeah, it it'll just be it'll just be can't Kansas City will be in the playoffs, they'll have to play Buffalo at some point.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: Buffalo will just lay down and die like they always do.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: And then and then they'll just they'll just win.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: They'll be on the road, they'll be like, oh no, this is Kansas City won't win this game, and then they'll just they'll win.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's just like all those years with the Patriots.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's the same thing.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh yeah, no, this isn't the Patriots year, and then they're just in the Super Bowl because they just are.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: So uh and we're thinking the Steelers don't great beat Green Bay, Tim, or do I I I think I don't know.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I think this is the toss-up.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think this is a toss-up.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's a toss-up, but I I actually think they'll win that game.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's Sunday night at home, Rogers.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think the defense, honestly, the the if the defense can rest and can stop the run, they have a chance.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because then they'll just have if they can make at least them one dimensional, I think the Steelers can score 30 points on that.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think the Steelers can score 30 points on anybody right now.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's just a matter of how many points the defense is gonna give up.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's the biggest thing is Boy.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: When's the last time we've been able to say that?
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's been a few years.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: I uh but if the de even if even if it's even if we lose, but the defense kind of bounces back, I think that'll still be a good sign.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: But man, if if it's just drive after drive after drive, you know, big chunky yards here, big chunky yards there.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: Especially running the ball, I'll be yeah, I'm gonna be I'm going to that game, Steve, and I'll be yeah, I'll be getting visibly ill.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: You'll see me in the stands punched over.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, on that note, Tim will give him some Zofran to keep him from throwing up too bad.
• 23:58
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