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Disruptive Conversations with Charlamagne Tha God - The Potter’s House of Dallas · THE WORLD'S BEST PREACHER

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Speaker 1: In the absence of truth, everything has become ambiguous. It's it's,
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Speaker 1: it's and and with that comes an attitude of hostility.
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Speaker 1: So you don't want to be so creative that you
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Speaker 1: become destructive rather than disruptive.
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Speaker 2: Oh see, So how do you know when that shock
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Speaker 2: is protecting you from you know, hurting yourself.
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Speaker 1: That's a that's a very very very good question. First
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Speaker 1: of all, is what's on the other side of the shock?
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Speaker 1: Worth it? The shock is going to hurt. Anytime you
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Speaker 1: are the first at anything, it is going to hurt.
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Speaker 2: Thank y'all for coming out to night for a disruptive
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Speaker 2: conversation with a man who I am so happy on
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Speaker 2: Sunday mornings they to go live on YouTube every Sunday.
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Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing like being.
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Speaker 2: At the part of house, but a bedside Baptist will
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Speaker 2: do on Sunday mornings on YouTube. How are you bishops,
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Speaker 2: I'm good. How are you disruptive thinking? Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 2: let's start with the basics. What is a disruptor and
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Speaker 2: what is disruptive thinking?
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Speaker 1: I think that to bullet down to the simplest terms,
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Speaker 1: it's when you stop blaming other people for the maladies
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Speaker 1: of your life and come to the conclusion that there's
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Speaker 1: something in the way that you are processing your life
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Speaker 1: that if you change the way you think, you can
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Speaker 1: change the outcomes in your life. I always like to
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Speaker 1: say that mindsets control assets, so you can't change assets.
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Speaker 1: And when I say assets, I don't just mean economically,
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Speaker 1: but just in every area of your life. You can't
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Speaker 1: change assets until you change mindsets. And we don't do
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Speaker 1: that quickly enough because it is so much easier to
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Speaker 1: be the victim and blame other people.
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Speaker 3: What is disruption to you?
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Speaker 1: Growth? Change anything you know. You cannot leave the ground
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Speaker 1: comfortable if you put a seed in it, the seed,
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Speaker 1: the root eating process will disrupt the ground. And anybody
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Speaker 1: who wants you to stay the same, they're asking you
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Speaker 1: not to grow. If you're going to grow, you're going
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Speaker 1: to disrupt some things in order to develop to the
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Speaker 1: full capacity of you. And here's the other thing that
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Speaker 1: I think is important. The only person that I'm in
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Speaker 1: a race with is me. Okay, okay, yeah, I'm not
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Speaker 1: trying to be Steve Harvey. I'm not trying to be president.
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be anybody else. I'm not trying
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Speaker 1: to be doctor King I'm only in a race to
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Speaker 1: see how far I was meant to go? Where is
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Speaker 1: my destiny? What is my best? And once I reach
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Speaker 1: my best, the opiate, the extreme evolutionary, progressive understanding of
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Speaker 1: my own self, the outworking of the internal completes me.
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Speaker 1: It is not running against other people, because that is
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Speaker 1: going to be an endless race. It's always going to
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Speaker 1: be somebody who's stronger than you, who's bigger than you,
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Speaker 1: who's more smart than you, who's better looking than you.
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Speaker 1: There's always somebody out there if you're running against them.
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Speaker 1: I can't fight my battle with your equipment.
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Speaker 2: Oh when do we know we need to disrupt?
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Speaker 1: I think that the most powerful thing about being a
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Speaker 1: human being, it's the power of a decision. And I
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Speaker 1: see so many of us who don't make decisions. We
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Speaker 1: just complain, and complaining is the weakest thing you can do.
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Speaker 1: Murmuring and complaining doesn't change anything, it just deepens it.
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Speaker 1: So if you replace grumbling with decisions, that is a
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Speaker 1: catalyst for transformation. When people argue I'm not a good arguer,
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Speaker 1: it's not that I can't do it. It said that
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Speaker 1: I turn into somebody I don't like. Yes, I'm serious.
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Speaker 1: So I found it more powerful to make decisions, to
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Speaker 1: control who comes in round of my life, to control
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Speaker 1: who I allow to have access to me, to control
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Speaker 1: the atmosphere around me, the brilliancy of what I build.
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Speaker 1: I was telling them in the back eye. My leadership
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Speaker 1: style is team building. And if you're a team builder,
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Speaker 1: you soon begin to understand you are no better than
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Speaker 1: the people you put around you. And if you don't
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Speaker 1: surround yourself with people that are smarter than you, if
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Speaker 1: you must, your ego demands that you must be the
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Speaker 1: smartest person in the room at all times, you will
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Speaker 1: miss the possibilities of what you could be if you
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Speaker 1: surrounded yourself with great.
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Speaker 3: Deep How do you keep disruption pure and good?
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Speaker 1: I think if you don't confuse disruption with destruction, you know,
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Speaker 1: disruption isn't destruction. So I've got I like to cook,
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Speaker 1: So everybody who follows me on in sacrams at least
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Speaker 1: certain holidays, I'm going to cook.
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Speaker 3: You're looking pretty blessed. Looked like they came with a blessing.
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Speaker 1: Army, you tell them, But my brother can throw it down.
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Speaker 1: But cooking is disruptive. If you take flour and eggs
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Speaker 1: and butter, and put it out with cream, cheese and
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Speaker 1: vanilla extract in its original form. If you're not willing
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Speaker 1: to disrupt it, you can't see what it can be.
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Speaker 1: So the whole process of mixing and blending together and
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Speaker 1: stirring and pouring in a pan and putting it in
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Speaker 1: the fire. Imagine if that was you getting mixed together
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Speaker 1: with something to put into fire. That's pretty disruptive. But
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Speaker 1: there's no way to be creative without being disruptive. You
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Speaker 1: can't paint a picture without being disruptive. If you can't
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Speaker 1: build this building without being disruptive, it's going to get dirty,
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Speaker 1: it's going to get messy, it's going to be Creativity
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Speaker 1: thrives in disruption, and yet most of us run away
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Speaker 1: from disruption. So we want to keep things nice and
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Speaker 1: meet at the expense of progress. So just keep it quiet,
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Speaker 1: don't make me uncomfortable, don't take me out of my element,
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Speaker 1: don't put me in a room where I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: of myself. We're more concerned about comfort than we are growth.
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Speaker 1: So the whole narrative of disruptive thinking gives you permission
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Speaker 1: to evolve, to grow and not have to apologize. I
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Speaker 1: think I was telling you Before that, I grew up
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Speaker 1: in a little raggedy house on the side of the
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Speaker 1: hills in West Virginia and three kids in one room.
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Speaker 1: My parents were in the other room. They finally got
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a million and fixed up the addic
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Speaker 1: and turned it into bedrooms. My brother and I shared
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Speaker 1: one side, my sisters shared the other. But you had
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Speaker 1: to go upstairs. And what I learned about steps is this,
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Speaker 1: It's not the step you step on the creeks, it's
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Speaker 1: the one you step away from. So when you're walking
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Speaker 1: up the steps, the step creaks and you release the
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Speaker 1: weight of being on that step and moves to the
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Speaker 1: next one. What am I saying? It's not where you're
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Speaker 1: going that's fighting you. It's where you left. Okay, So
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Speaker 1: you have to decide do you want to stay on
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Speaker 1: the old step to keep the noise down or are
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Speaker 1: you willing to deal with the noise in order to
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Speaker 1: have the elevation right?
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Speaker 2: In Disruptive Thinking, you wrote the clanging dissonance of violence, anger, fear,
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Speaker 2: and political dissolution threatens to suffocate us. All anger is
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Speaker 2: the new American pastime. I think I know what you mean,
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Speaker 2: But what do you mean?
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Speaker 1: I just think we're so angry. We're so angry. You
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Speaker 1: cannot get on social media say anything about anything and
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Speaker 1: not come up under fire by some group or click
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Speaker 1: or club, And then if you say the alternate statement,
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Speaker 1: you get fought the other way. And it's not the
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Speaker 1: disagreement that is discouraging. It is the death of civility.
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Speaker 1: The beautiful thing about democracy is that we were allowed
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Speaker 1: to have our own ideas and opinions until we were
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Speaker 1: confronted with a higher truth that melted our opinions into unity. Instead,
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Speaker 1: we're living in a time that opinions have devoured truth.
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Speaker 1: So now there is no absolute You have a truth,
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Speaker 1: I have a truth. She has a truth. And we're
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Speaker 1: all fighting for our truth. But really there is only
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Speaker 1: one truth, you know. I saw the sign and it
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Speaker 1: took off and said, men lie, women lie. Numbers don't.
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Speaker 1: Numbers don't. Two plus two is four. Whether you're in
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Speaker 1: Africa or whether you're in Anguilla or whether you're in the Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: There are some things that transcend opinion. There's nothing to
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Speaker 1: fight about. It's just true. Two plus two's four. In
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Speaker 1: the absence of truth, everything has become ambiguous. It's it's
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Speaker 1: and with that comes an attitude of hostility, where my
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Speaker 1: getting up seems to make you feel like it was
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Speaker 1: at your expense that I rose, you know. And then conversely,
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Speaker 1: what it makes you think that killing me will make
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Speaker 1: you can but killing me won't crown you, you know.
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Speaker 1: And yet we walk down this path of anger and hostility,
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Speaker 1: and what we don't know is this, that depression is
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Speaker 1: just anger turned inside. So when you start talking about
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Speaker 1: our own health and wellness, it is us attacking us
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Speaker 1: as much as we have outside attackers. And we were
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Speaker 1: talking off stage about the killings and the shootings and
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Speaker 1: all of that. As bad and as horrific as it is,
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Speaker 1: the damage we do to ourselves is far more debilitating
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Speaker 1: than the damage that other people do to us. When
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Speaker 1: you are angry and in a constant state of rage,
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Speaker 1: your pulse rages, your body secretes hormones that it has
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with. That turns into anxiety, that turns
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Speaker 1: into hypertension, that turns into everything that is kind of
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Speaker 1: protective to you. So while you are angry at me,
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Speaker 1: you are killing you. Okay, Anger, unforgiveness, hostility, walking around
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Speaker 1: with suppressed rage and angry isn't always just some people
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Speaker 1: who blow up. Quiet people can be angry too. Some
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Speaker 1: of us internalize our anger to our own destruction, and
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Speaker 1: so I think that the death of stability. Anger has
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Speaker 1: become the new pastime sport. If you watch the news,
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Speaker 1: they specifically and intentionally get people on to fight, because
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Speaker 1: what they're really doing is not trying to give you
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Speaker 1: the news. They're trying to give you deliberatings so they
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Speaker 1: can sell advertisement at a higher price. And they know
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Speaker 1: that congeniality and niceness and normalness does not draw eyeballs,
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Speaker 1: but conflict and rage and compativeness draws eyeballs, which increases
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Speaker 1: profit margins, which makes people more money. And then the
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Speaker 1: people who were raging at each other during while the
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Speaker 1: lights are on, go to lunch. Come on, somebody what
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Speaker 1: we don't know and I didn't know until I got
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Speaker 1: in the businesses. Those people are paid to have this argument,
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Speaker 1: and they are brought to want to have this debate
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Speaker 1: to enrage you, and then they go to lunch and
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Speaker 1: you go get a gun and go kill somebody. So
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Speaker 1: we are being mated not to mention the algorithms are
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Speaker 1: bringing you truth in the flavor of what you search for,
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Speaker 1: So you have this personalized conveyor belt where your ideas,
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Speaker 1: whatever they are, whether they're proud or racist, or sexual
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Speaker 1: or perverted or whatever they are. The algorithms are constantly
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Speaker 1: feeding you what you asked about, So the commercials that
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Speaker 1: pop up are all designed and tailor made around the
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Speaker 1: cookies and whatnot that are in your system, so that
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Speaker 1: what happens is we are self delusional, so we create
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Speaker 1: this climate. If it's hatred, if it's molacens, if it's racism,
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Speaker 1: whatever it is, where the technology is bringing you more more,
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Speaker 1: more of whatever it is you ask for. You type
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Speaker 1: in recipes, they're bringing more recipes. You type in how
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Speaker 1: to make weapons, They're going to give you more of
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Speaker 1: whatever you type in. And what we are doing, we're
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Speaker 1: drinking the kool aid. I grew up with the Jim
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Speaker 1: Jones thing. You know, everybody drink the kool aid and
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Speaker 1: all that. We're drinking the kool aid, but we're not
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Speaker 1: mixing the kool aid. We are African Americans in particular.
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Speaker 1: When I say we, and now I'm talking about African
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Speaker 1: Americans are the nation's greatest consumers and the poorest creators.
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Speaker 1: When people say we're not into technology, that's absolutely wrong.
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Speaker 1: We're absolutely into technology. You might be homeless and you've
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Speaker 1: got the latest Apple phone.
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Speaker 3: That's y'all on Facebook every day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so you can spend an hour scrolling on
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Speaker 1: Instagram with no job. It's not that we're not into technology, true.
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Speaker 1: You know, tell me when I start lying. Now, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's not that we're not into it. We're just into
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Speaker 1: consuming it. We're not into making it. We're not into coding,
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Speaker 1: we're not into developing it. We're not into making apps.
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Speaker 1: We're used to downloading apps that we're not taught to
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Speaker 1: think creatively. One of the reasons I wrote this book, Chelman,
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Speaker 1: was simply this, I'm in this thing about working with entrepreneurs.
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Speaker 1: We started a program called Good Soil and we're developing
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Speaker 1: and training Oh thank you. Yeah, we're developing and training
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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs how to scale up because about ninety six percent
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Speaker 1: of African American businesses have less than to employees or
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Speaker 1: sold proprietorships, and they don't know how to scale up.
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Speaker 1: You know what it is baked in to our culture
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Speaker 1: to hustle. Okay, so hustle means you've got your hands
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Speaker 1: on everything. If you got your hands on every thing,
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Speaker 1: you can't have many things because you only got two hands,
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Speaker 1: and so we had to hustle because we couldn't get hired.
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Speaker 1: But as we pass from generation, it has become baked in.
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Speaker 1: So whether you're a street hustler, whether you're a perverted hustler,
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Speaker 1: whether you are in business, barbering, accounting, doing people's tax returns,
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Speaker 1: you're actually doing the work. You're frying the chicken, you're
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Speaker 1: washing the hair. You're doing but not being You're acting,
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Speaker 1: but not thinking, and baked into the way we live.
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Speaker 1: It's a hustle. You call it a business, but if
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Speaker 1: you can't walk away from it for two months and
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Speaker 1: still have income, it's not a business. It's a hustle.
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Speaker 1: And so that's why we never really scale up into
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Speaker 1: real profit ability because we're living hand to mouth, mixing
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Speaker 1: the money from the business into our operating account. Don't
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Speaker 1: have a EI in number, never set up a LLCIOP,
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Speaker 1: don't have ass corporations see corporation. We're sole proprietorship. What
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Speaker 1: we did was create a job, and we hustle. And
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Speaker 1: the problem with that is is hustling is not a
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Speaker 1: bad thing until you do it too long. The problem
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Speaker 1: with it with an escalating economic conundrum that we're in
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Speaker 1: right now, where the prices are becoming absorbitant through inflation.
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Speaker 1: When it's just you doing the work, you have to
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Speaker 1: run faster. The higher the cost gets, the more the
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Speaker 1: hamster has to run faster and faster. And we're running
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Speaker 1: ourselves to death. We're running ourselves to divorce. We're running
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Speaker 1: ourselves into hypertension, we're running ourselves into diabetes and kidney
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Speaker 1: failure and all that sort of thing like that. My
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Speaker 1: question is, if you would just disrupt the way you think,
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Speaker 1: If you would just disrupt the way you think, if
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Speaker 1: you're an entrepreneur and invest in in your business, not
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Speaker 1: you delayed gratification for a minute. If we would stop
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Speaker 1: buying other people's names and start making our name greater.
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Speaker 1: If you would buy at least a little bit of
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Speaker 1: stock for every three paiods of shoes you got instead
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Speaker 1: of the fourth one. Let's just buy some stock. Let's
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Speaker 1: just do some things that are really smart. But that
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Speaker 1: requires disrupting the way you think. That requires being rejected
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Speaker 1: by your friends because now you have a different goal
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Speaker 1: than them, and people love you until you get a
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Speaker 1: different goal from them. Right.
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Speaker 2: I want to ask about that like, how do you
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Speaker 2: keep going when it seems like you know every everything
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Speaker 2: is against you and people start to be against you?
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Speaker 1: You know, you cannot ascend to the upper echelon of
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Speaker 1: any sociological construct without developing a certain desensitized feeling about
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Speaker 1: other people's opinions. If you cater so much to how
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Speaker 1: other people think about you, it says something about you
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Speaker 1: that there's a certain level of brokenness that needs affirmation.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sensitive to broken people, but I would suggest
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Speaker 1: to you that you have an inner circle of people
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Speaker 1: that affirm you so that the outer circle of people
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Speaker 1: don't distress you. Because what we must have to remember
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Speaker 1: is that through our phones, we have allowed millions of
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Speaker 1: people into our lives who don't know us. And you'll
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Speaker 1: end up arguing with somebody that you will never meet
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Speaker 1: in your entire life about something that really doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: And it is the absence of intimacy, the absence.
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Speaker 2: That I got to send up for this, Ye break
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Speaker 2: that down, that absence of intimacy.
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Speaker 1: The absence of intimacy creates loneliness, causes us to overvalue
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Speaker 1: strangers and devalue people who are closer. You see, So.
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Speaker 3: I forgot to the front of.
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Speaker 1: What what we really need is somebody who really knows us,
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Speaker 1: who really knows us, who really values us, flows in
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Speaker 1: all all, who can appreciate intimacy into me see see.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not going to I'm not going to give
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Speaker 1: that to you right away because that's precious. That's all
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Speaker 1: I've got. But that's what creates the feeling of not
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Speaker 1: being alone. It's not a crowd. I'm in crowds all
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Speaker 1: the time. If crowds would do it, I would be fine.
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Speaker 1: It's not a crowd. I would rather have a few
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Speaker 1: people who knew me well than to have millions who
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Speaker 1: knew me loosely. Okay. And if you draw your affirmation
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Speaker 1: and your strength from your faith, from your family, from
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Speaker 1: your friends, circles you can control, then you are less
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Speaker 1: smooth by what people say outside. And I think, are
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Speaker 1: you feeling what I'm saying? I think we have become
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Speaker 1: too emotional to be successful, because most successful people that
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Speaker 1: I have met are not extremely sensitive because they can't
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Speaker 1: afford to be. In order to accelerate yourself, your brand,
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Speaker 1: your business, your ideas, your concepts, your church, whatever it
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Speaker 1: is you have to build up. In my book, I
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Speaker 1: talk about two dogs I had their County corsos. I
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Speaker 1: still got one of them. The other one passed away,
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Speaker 1: but ben Ley and Honnie and so I put up
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Speaker 1: invisible fences to keep them in parameters. I have like
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Speaker 1: a farm like backyard. It's quite a few acres of land.
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Speaker 1: They're coyotes back there. I'm in Texas. There are rattlesnakes
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Speaker 1: back there. There are beavers and all kinds of stuff
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Speaker 1: like there. So the part of the land that I
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Speaker 1: quadroned off where it was safe for them, I put
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Speaker 1: an invisible fence. And invisible fence requires a color around
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Speaker 1: the dog's neck, so that when the dog gets too
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Speaker 1: close to the parameter, the collar starts to bus and
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Speaker 1: the closer they get to the fence, the more intensive
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Speaker 1: becomes to keep them from going across the line. It's
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Speaker 1: invisible but effective. How many walls do you have up
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Speaker 1: that are invisible but are holding you back? And what
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Speaker 1: I noticed was Bentley would stay in the fence. He
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Speaker 1: couldn't see it, but he stayed in it. Honey would
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Speaker 1: take the shock just to get to the other side. Okay,
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Speaker 1: and I don't care what you did. She would take
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Speaker 1: the shock, and then eventually she started gnawing her collar
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Speaker 1: off so that she would not feel the shock. So
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Speaker 1: when I use them metaphorically in the book to me,
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Speaker 1: disruptive thinkers are people who are willing to endure the
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Speaker 1: temporary discomfort of getting into the next dimension rather than
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Speaker 1: to stay within the lines that somebody else drew. The
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Speaker 1: lines that somebody else drew is auspices through which we
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Speaker 1: have colonialism. The lines that somebody else drew is affecting
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Speaker 1: our voting block in our contemporary society. The line since
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Speaker 1: somebody else drew has rearranged the continent of Africa. The
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Speaker 1: lines that somebody else drew has given us in my
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Speaker 1: day colored fountains and clean front of The lines that
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Speaker 1: somebody else drew in your day is redlining the ability
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Speaker 1: to vote. The lines that somebody else drew determines how
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Speaker 1: far you can go. And now you think you somebody
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Speaker 1: you forgot where you came from. The lines that somebody
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Speaker 1: else drew says it's inappropriate for you to be in
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Speaker 1: this room and you feel out of place because you're
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Speaker 1: not like them. But when you get when you haven't
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Speaker 1: been shocked enough and decide that I'm willing to pay
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Speaker 1: the price to get to my next. Then you're like honey.
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Speaker 1: Honey took the shock to get into the wide open
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Speaker 1: fields of what was next. And I thought about all
24:51
Speaker 1: the invisible fields, fences, some of which I imposed on myself.
24:58
Speaker 1: They're not all fences that somebody else do. Some of
25:00
Speaker 1: the defenses I imposed upon myself to my own fear,
25:03
Speaker 1: my own insecurity, my lack of exposure, because it's hard
25:07
Speaker 1: to be what you didn't see. And as I begin
25:11
Speaker 1: to become more exposed, I tell people all the time,
25:13
Speaker 1: exposure is the biggest word I can spell, because the
25:18
Speaker 1: greatest gift I can give you is exposure. You cannot
25:22
Speaker 1: disrupt your thinking if you have not been exposed to
25:25
Speaker 1: other options. If you cannot take your children to the
25:34
Speaker 1: finest school, or you cannot buy them the finest clothes,
25:40
Speaker 1: if you can drive them through the neighborhood, if you
25:44
Speaker 1: can put them in the office where conversations are being
25:48
Speaker 1: held about more than hip hop. Nothing wrong with hip hop,
25:53
Speaker 1: but about more than hip hop. If you can learn
25:56
Speaker 1: the words to a song, you can learn the code.
26:03
Speaker 1: The reason I am out here like this. I don't
26:07
Speaker 1: need to be like out here like this at this
26:09
Speaker 1: age and stage anymore. I did this when I was
26:13
Speaker 1: in my thirties. Okay, when I listen at Black economic
26:19
Speaker 1: summits talking about by twenty fifty, the median income for
26:26
Speaker 1: underserved communities, Black in particular would be zero. Now twenty
26:33
Speaker 1: time twenty fifty comes out, won't be here. But I
26:37
Speaker 1: don't have grandchildren here and children here median income is zero.
26:43
Speaker 1: It's the loss of middle class, which puts you in
26:47
Speaker 1: a third world country situation. The haves have nots and
26:52
Speaker 1: the have nots. Excuse me, Tyler, but that statement is
27:01
Speaker 1: prophetic of where the entire country is going. It's just
27:05
Speaker 1: that underserved communities go first. We're losing our middle class,
27:10
Speaker 1: We're losing our middle everything, and if we don't change
27:16
Speaker 1: the way we think, we won't be I've got three
27:21
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty people on staff, three hundred and fifty
27:25
Speaker 1: people on sand. I have four different companies that you
27:34
Speaker 1: don't see on Sunday morning that I didn't have any
27:40
Speaker 1: reason to show, because I'm a doer, not a show,
27:44
Speaker 1: until it became necessary that I begin to realize that
27:47
Speaker 1: all they think I am is a preacher, and all
27:52
Speaker 1: they want to talk about is church. You wouldn't have
27:58
Speaker 1: anybody else who had done five hundred million dollars at
28:02
Speaker 1: the box office in films and talk to them about church. No. Yeah,
28:12
Speaker 1: but that's what happens when people put you in a fence.
28:17
Speaker 1: This is who you are, this is what you know,
28:20
Speaker 1: This is what you can do bypassing. I have human resources,
28:24
Speaker 1: I have accountants. I have got a room full of accounts.
28:27
Speaker 1: I've got bookkeepers, I've got outside auditors. I've got for
28:31
Speaker 1: profit companies, not for profit companies. I've got foundations separated
28:35
Speaker 1: from dcs and CDCs and all of that. And yeah, yeah,
28:40
Speaker 1: and all of these are separate constructs, don't have anything
28:44
Speaker 1: to do with the Potter's house. And then I get
28:46
Speaker 1: in a conversation with you and you want to ask
28:48
Speaker 1: me about the choir.
28:55
Speaker 3: Why is why at the botuse?
28:58
Speaker 1: I love the choir, this aquir? And why did I
29:03
Speaker 1: do that. I'm not saying every preacher should do that.
29:05
Speaker 1: I didn't do that as a preacher. I did that
29:07
Speaker 1: as a person. I was a person before I was
29:10
Speaker 1: a preacher. Don't let your calling or your livelihood destroy
29:15
Speaker 1: your personhood. You know where they define you by the
29:22
Speaker 1: breakfast club, and don't know that you're a person that
29:24
Speaker 1: creates loneliness that creates pain because everybody calls you Charlemagne
29:29
Speaker 1: and you know that's not your real name. And after
29:31
Speaker 1: while you hunger for somebody who really knows you.
29:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like when you call me Leonard.
29:36
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah, so we can do that Leonard. Because
29:41
Speaker 1: what is important. What is important that you say what
29:50
Speaker 1: you like, that you go after what you want, and
29:56
Speaker 1: you find fulfillment in what you do. Because I was
30:03
Speaker 1: raised and I started the book talking that started out
30:05
Speaker 1: of the book talking about it. I was raised by
30:07
Speaker 1: dying father that changes everything. He got sick when I
30:13
Speaker 1: was ten, and he died when I was sixteen, and
30:16
Speaker 1: I watched eight years of his study decline down the hill.
30:21
Speaker 1: And the greatest gift, there were many gifts he gave me.
30:24
Speaker 1: My work, I think, my focus, my drive, my entrepreneurial
30:28
Speaker 1: inclination started with him. He started a business with the
30:30
Speaker 1: mop of the bucket, ended up with fifty two employees
30:33
Speaker 1: in West Virginia in the sixties. Wow. Okay, So I
30:38
Speaker 1: grew up in that environment where he and my mother
30:40
Speaker 1: were arguing about how they would go file taxes and
30:42
Speaker 1: all other kind of stuff. You know, it's crazy, But
30:45
Speaker 1: I started out the book talking about what a dying
30:49
Speaker 1: parent teaches his child. It's amazing how he taught me
30:56
Speaker 1: how to value living by dying. He taught me that
31:03
Speaker 1: life is just a moment. It's just a vapor. My
31:07
Speaker 1: biggest birthday wasn't like my fiftieth birthday or my sixty
31:11
Speaker 1: fifth birthday that was amazing events all that kind said.
31:14
Speaker 1: My biggest birthday was my forty ninth birthday because my
31:17
Speaker 1: father died at forty eight. So when I became forty nine,
31:23
Speaker 1: I broke the curse. Okay, and the first thing. If
31:32
Speaker 1: I can see my father right now, I will tell
31:34
Speaker 1: him Daddy and June, I'll be sixty six. Look at me.
31:41
Speaker 1: I got great hair. That's why I worried. My grandfather
31:46
Speaker 1: was murdered at twenty two. Okay, I'm older than either
31:51
Speaker 1: of my grandparents' grandfather's already. Okay, what he taught me
31:59
Speaker 1: not just a lie longivity of life. But don't let
32:02
Speaker 1: anybody's mouth stop your feet from moving. You understand what
32:08
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Life is too short for me to be
32:11
Speaker 1: running around taking your temperature before I come in the room.
32:13
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't be bothered by what's going on
32:17
Speaker 1: in your head about me. I can't regulate your emotions,
32:20
Speaker 1: your attitudes, your opinions, your dysfunctions, your therapy, and whether
32:23
Speaker 1: you are on your maids or not. And you might
32:25
Speaker 1: be typing something because you didn't get your mans for me.
32:28
Speaker 1: I did not. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe
32:30
Speaker 1: you manage your wife, maybe your dog getting working, maybe
32:33
Speaker 1: you got a right time dysfunctioned. I don't know what's
32:35
Speaker 1: wrong with you. But I don't have time to work
32:39
Speaker 1: through all of your issues in my life, man, because
32:43
Speaker 1: my dying father taught need the urgency of living.
32:49
Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that, Bishop, because I can't stand
32:52
Speaker 2: when I can't stand when people sit by you and
32:55
Speaker 2: they side. I'm not about to ask you what's wrong.
32:58
Speaker 2: I got bold, I.
33:05
Speaker 1: Get it, I get it, and see it's my job
33:08
Speaker 1: to ask you what's wrong. I don't mind doing that
33:11
Speaker 1: until you think that your opinion authorizes you to be
33:16
Speaker 1: my warden. So we were talking in the back about
33:22
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence and how it's taken over. So people think
33:26
Speaker 1: it's going to take over. No, it's already taken over.
33:29
Speaker 1: We're behind the eight ball. It's been taken over. It's
33:32
Speaker 1: behind everything. But one of the when you're in your
33:37
Speaker 1: house and you cut off your phone, it's still listening. Okay,
33:42
Speaker 1: So we're experiencing the death of privacy. The only place
33:48
Speaker 1: they have not invaded yet is in between my ears
33:54
Speaker 1: thinking nobody. My wife can lay right against me and
34:01
Speaker 1: I know what I'm thinking. It is the final frontier
34:06
Speaker 1: of privacy. It's all you have left to you open
34:10
Speaker 1: your mouth. Until you open your mouth, nobody knows what
34:15
Speaker 1: you think. So you have to choose Joseph, who you're
34:22
Speaker 1: going to tell your dream to. And then you have
34:28
Speaker 1: to choose risks versus reward. Okay, risk, Everything has a risk.
34:37
Speaker 1: Make sure that the reward warrants the risk. Simply stated,
34:42
Speaker 1: I say, never go to battle where there are no spoils.
34:47
Speaker 1: If there's nothing to be gained, there's nothing to fight for.
34:52
Speaker 1: So everything that there's nothing to be gained from in
34:56
Speaker 1: the fight is a distraction from the victory is over here.
35:02
Speaker 1: So while you're over here putting out this fire over here,
35:05
Speaker 1: the real victory is over here. This has come as
35:09
Speaker 1: a distraction to break your focus, because in order to
35:13
Speaker 1: win at anything, you have to focus. You don't get
35:17
Speaker 1: to be tiger Woods without focus. You don't get to
35:21
Speaker 1: be Serena Williams without focus. You don't get to be
35:24
Speaker 1: Angela Bassett without focus. You don't get to be Denzel
35:27
Speaker 1: Washington without focus. You don't get to run a fortune
35:31
Speaker 1: one hundred company without focus. You have to focus. It's
35:34
Speaker 1: not enough that you went to school. You have to focus.
35:37
Speaker 1: And the problem with us is we are so into
35:40
Speaker 1: our feelings like never before. We're so into how I feel.
35:45
Speaker 1: I don't like her, I don't like him, I don't
35:49
Speaker 1: like this. And because we're so into our feelings, we
35:53
Speaker 1: can't do business. Because business is not an emotion, it's
35:58
Speaker 1: a science. It has nothing to do with me liking you.
36:05
Speaker 1: I don't have to like you to do business with you.
36:08
Speaker 1: That's why they make contracts. So I'll shut up. Go ahead.
36:17
Speaker 1: I want to.
36:19
Speaker 3: Appre appreaching.
36:21
Speaker 2: I want to go back to your cane cours holes, right,
36:24
Speaker 2: because everybody's not a disruptive. And when I think about
36:28
Speaker 2: your your cane cours holes, you know one of them
36:30
Speaker 2: was constantly trying to get out, the other one knew better.
36:36
Speaker 1: Neither one of them wrong, right, No, neither one of
36:38
Speaker 1: them wrong, and and and and so I'm not trying
36:41
Speaker 1: to make somebody disruptive who's not Because every disruptive nieces
36:45
Speaker 1: supporter and and and so while some of us are
36:50
Speaker 1: fence jumpers and risk takers, then we still need other
36:54
Speaker 1: people that control manage the yard. They're the difference between
37:00
Speaker 1: a manager and a leader. Both of them are significant.
37:06
Speaker 1: Now I'm a leader, I'm not a manager. I'm not
37:11
Speaker 1: a manager. I don't have that annoying on me to manage. Okay.
37:15
Speaker 1: The reason I know that is my eyes don't light
37:18
Speaker 1: up when I do it, that glaze over. If you're
37:22
Speaker 1: working a job that your eyes are glazing over while
37:25
Speaker 1: you're doing it, it's not for you. You should be
37:28
Speaker 1: doing something that when you do it, it makes your eyes
37:30
Speaker 1: light up, even when it's hard, even when it's tough,
37:33
Speaker 1: even when it's difficult. The more we talk, the more
37:39
Speaker 1: energy I get because I am wired to do this.
37:44
Speaker 1: I'm created to do this. Lock me up in an
37:47
Speaker 1: office as an accountant and have me trying to balance
37:50
Speaker 1: a budget sheet and a ledger and watch how fast
37:53
Speaker 1: I go crazy. Okay, but that doesn't mean that the
37:57
Speaker 1: person who does that isn't valuable. Eat them. So having
38:02
Speaker 1: a balance between a disruptive thinkers and leaders and managers
38:08
Speaker 1: and people who stay with in fences and keep you
38:11
Speaker 1: within guidelines, keeps me out of jail. So I said
38:18
Speaker 1: God with the lawyer and I said, well, can we
38:20
Speaker 1: do this or can we do that? And said, well,
38:23
Speaker 1: you could do this, but if you do that, it's
38:25
Speaker 1: going to be illegal. There are some boundaries that must
38:28
Speaker 1: be respected. So you don't want to be so creative
38:32
Speaker 1: that you become destructive rather than disruptive.
38:36
Speaker 2: Oh see, So how do you know when that shock
38:39
Speaker 2: is protecting you from hurting yourself.
38:42
Speaker 1: That's a very very very good question. First of all,
38:46
Speaker 1: is what's on the other side of the shock? Worth it?
38:51
Speaker 1: The shock is going to hurt. Anytime you are the
38:54
Speaker 1: first at anything, it is going to hurt. And you
39:00
Speaker 1: break through a boundary into the next dimension of you,
39:04
Speaker 1: there's going to be pain, whether it's emotional pain or
39:07
Speaker 1: alienation in the workplace, or being an immigrant and a
39:11
Speaker 1: new frontier on a job where everybody walks and it
39:13
Speaker 1: says good morning, good morning, yes, yes, bring me some coffee.
39:21
Speaker 1: When you get to take that kind of condescending to
39:25
Speaker 1: there's going to be pain breaking down barriers. Right now,
39:31
Speaker 1: a friend of mine has been sending me all of
39:33
Speaker 1: these articles and materials on black women leaving corporate America
39:37
Speaker 1: and droves. You know, when you go into a construct
39:42
Speaker 1: that is not designed by you or for you, you
39:46
Speaker 1: are an immigrant and what's next until you can be
39:53
Speaker 1: there long enough to own what's next. So being an
40:01
Speaker 1: immigrant is the cost of growth. Anytime you migrate beyond
40:08
Speaker 1: the fence, you're an immigrant. On the other side. You
40:13
Speaker 1: don't know the rules, You don't know what predators are
40:15
Speaker 1: over there, you don't know where the snakes are, you
40:17
Speaker 1: don't know if the coyotes are coming. You don't know
40:19
Speaker 1: what's over there. But that's the price you pay to
40:22
Speaker 1: get to what's next. So you enter into your next
40:25
Speaker 1: as a student, not a teacher. Okay, so let me
40:29
Speaker 1: show you real quick. But I mean, so you can
40:31
Speaker 1: count to ten. You're at the top of the game. Ten.
40:33
Speaker 1: It's the highest number. I don't care if you got
40:36
Speaker 1: a billion dollars, all you got is a bunch of dimes.
40:40
Speaker 1: Because in our numerical system, you can't go higher than ten.
40:43
Speaker 1: When you get to ten, you got to go back
40:46
Speaker 1: to one again. Eleven is one again. So when you
40:50
Speaker 1: go to eleven, you can't expect to be treated like
40:52
Speaker 1: you did when you were ten, because now you're at
40:55
Speaker 1: the infancy stages of the next development. Okay, you follow,
41:00
Speaker 1: I'm saying, okay, so now you can go eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,
41:06
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty. You're at the top of your game. Now
41:08
Speaker 1: you got to decide, am I willing to be at
41:11
Speaker 1: the top of my game at twenty or go back
41:14
Speaker 1: to one again to get into the next dimension and
41:17
Speaker 1: become a student again twenty one, twenty three, two four,
41:20
Speaker 1: two or five, three, sixty three, seventy eighty three, nine thirty. Okay,
41:24
Speaker 1: every one of us, when we get to the top
41:25
Speaker 1: of it, there are some of us that are bored
41:29
Speaker 1: with ten and we crave to be one again on
41:33
Speaker 1: the next level. And as long as I'm learning, I'm living,
41:39
Speaker 1: as long as I'm thirsting and hungering for more information,
41:43
Speaker 1: more knowledge, more exposure, more situations. And my kids tell me,
41:48
Speaker 1: they said, Taddy, you're not scared of anything. You'll walk
41:52
Speaker 1: out on the street and talk to anybody. You'll go anywhere,
41:55
Speaker 1: travel to any country and do anything. You're not scared
41:57
Speaker 1: of anything. I said, get out of here, scared of everything.
42:03
Speaker 3: Do it scared.
42:04
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, that do it? Scared? That do it?
42:07
Speaker 1: Needs nothing? I do it because I'm willing to take
42:10
Speaker 1: the shock of challenging my fear to say you can't
42:14
Speaker 1: hold me back from where I'm trying to go. I'm
42:19
Speaker 1: scared to death, But worse than being scared of what's next,
42:24
Speaker 1: I'm scared of not going because I would rather try
42:29
Speaker 1: and fail than stay where it's safe and get old
42:33
Speaker 1: and wonder what could have been if I had pushed
42:36
Speaker 1: myself a little bit further. That's what my dying father
42:40
Speaker 1: taught me. Check out the first chapter.
42:44
Speaker 2: One of my favorite chapters is you know, being married
42:47
Speaker 2: to a disruptor?
42:48
Speaker 3: So how do you succeed being married to a disruptor?
42:53
Speaker 1: Don't marry another one. I think my wife is so steady.
43:03
Speaker 1: She's going to drive home the same way, she's going
43:06
Speaker 1: to go to the same grocery store. She's gonna have
43:09
Speaker 1: the same person to do her nails every day at
43:12
Speaker 1: Thursday at three o'clock. She is, And I'm like, but
43:33
Speaker 1: I realized that part of my attraction to her was
43:38
Speaker 1: she was so opposite. She is my steady. I am
43:45
Speaker 1: her excitement. You understand, you know, I stopped it right there.
43:53
Speaker 1: I didn't go aheady further than I got to check
43:56
Speaker 1: my day job. But she would stay in the house
44:03
Speaker 1: single women listening to me. She would stay in the
44:04
Speaker 1: house if there wasn't a man to say, hey, let's go, hey,
44:08
Speaker 1: let's go take a trip, let's do so and so
44:09
Speaker 1: so so, because that's where her personality is. Okay until
44:15
Speaker 1: there is someone else in your life, Date yourself, remind
44:21
Speaker 1: yourself to do something that you wouldn't normally do to
44:23
Speaker 1: make your life more interesting. Expose yourself to something different,
44:28
Speaker 1: even if there's nobody there to pick you on the shoulder.
44:32
Speaker 1: Because what we do is balance each other. So what
44:35
Speaker 1: you do with a disruptive person is let them be
44:38
Speaker 1: disruptive while you are stable. And what you do being
44:43
Speaker 1: married to a stable person rather than converting them to
44:45
Speaker 1: be disruptive because you think they're boring. They're not boring.
44:49
Speaker 1: They're foundational. And if you don't have a foundation, you
44:53
Speaker 1: can't go up in there like that. You see, And
44:57
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about in the book is how to
44:59
Speaker 1: identify this ruptive thinkers in your children and not me
45:03
Speaker 1: so quick to punish them. Because there's certain children color
45:06
Speaker 1: outside of the lines. Maybe they're going to be architects,
45:11
Speaker 1: so give them blank sheets of paper. Who says you
45:14
Speaker 1: have to color inside the lines? Somebody drew the line.
45:20
Speaker 1: And a wise parent is like a great ceo. A
45:24
Speaker 1: great ceo can spot what's in you and put you
45:28
Speaker 1: in a position to shine. I walked in with my
45:31
Speaker 1: grandbaby and I was doing this tour at the church
45:34
Speaker 1: and my granddaughters. One of the serious daughters was in
45:37
Speaker 1: there in the tour, and there were no lights on
45:40
Speaker 1: in the sanctuary, and we have flashlights up under the
45:45
Speaker 1: pews in case of an emergency. So she went over there.
45:49
Speaker 1: She said, Papa, She said, I'm gonna get the flashlight
45:52
Speaker 1: and so we can take this picture. So she got
45:54
Speaker 1: the flashlights, she turned it on the people. So I said, Mackenzie,
45:58
Speaker 1: I said, why don't you let somebody else hold flashlight, said,
46:01
Speaker 1: so you can be in the picture. She said, no,
46:03
Speaker 1: I want to hold the light. And immediately I'll started
46:08
Speaker 1: watching her. I got back to the house and I
46:11
Speaker 1: was getting ready to do a selfie picture with a
46:13
Speaker 1: group of people, and she'd started putting up books to
46:16
Speaker 1: hold my phone while I took the picture. I said,
46:21
Speaker 1: look at her. Solving problems. Look at her wanting to
46:26
Speaker 1: hold the light rather than be in the picture, and
46:29
Speaker 1: I started telling my daughter, you should send her to
46:31
Speaker 1: this kind of school. You should take her to this
46:34
Speaker 1: kind of ballet, Broadway play. You should take her back
46:37
Speaker 1: behind the production. You should show her see we most
46:40
Speaker 1: of us never got fertilized. Yeah, you can't be good
46:48
Speaker 1: soil without fertilization. And fertilization means putting you in any
46:54
Speaker 1: areas of stimulation. There are grown people right now who
46:58
Speaker 1: you think you're tired. You're not tired. You're You need
47:02
Speaker 1: to be stimulated. You need to be challenged. You need
47:05
Speaker 1: to disrupt your normal, break your pattern, dress up, and
47:09
Speaker 1: then figure out where you're gonna go. Do something for yourself.
47:16
Speaker 3: I'll stop, you know.
47:19
Speaker 2: I want you to talk about a time in your
47:20
Speaker 2: career when being disruptive help pave the way for something great.
47:25
Speaker 1: There's so many things I've been disruptive all my life.
47:28
Speaker 1: I mean all of my life. My sister used to
47:33
Speaker 1: be up in the bedroom hollering out the window. She's
47:35
Speaker 1: up and reading them Holloquin novels and stuff, and supposed
47:38
Speaker 1: to be babysitting, and she hollering out the windows talking
47:40
Speaker 1: about time, what you're doing. I was all over the hill,
47:44
Speaker 1: I was down in the creek. I climbed up a tree.
47:46
Speaker 1: I was always always disrupted. But one of the more
47:49
Speaker 1: recent ones that you might relate to was when I
47:53
Speaker 1: wrote Woman and Hour Lose. I couldn't get it published.
47:57
Speaker 1: I couldn't get it published at first because there was
48:00
Speaker 1: no presidents for a man writing a book to women,
48:04
Speaker 1: and nobody would take a risk on it. So I
48:07
Speaker 1: had to self publish to get started, and then the
48:11
Speaker 1: publisher later came along and took it. I shouldn't have
48:13
Speaker 1: never let them take it. I should have kept it out.
48:17
Speaker 1: That book ended up selling seven eight million copies, and
48:21
Speaker 1: I was selling it out of the trunk of my car.
48:25
Speaker 1: What was disruptive about it was all the women's magazines
48:30
Speaker 1: were written by women to women about women. They'd never
48:37
Speaker 1: heard a man talk. So everything you ever learned about men,
48:44
Speaker 1: you either had an experience with a man or a
48:46
Speaker 1: woman told you so. Men become a mystery, and being
48:52
Speaker 1: married to a mystery is dangerous, or birthing a mystery
48:57
Speaker 1: that you don't know how to raise because you know
49:00
Speaker 1: how to teach him how to be a good woman.
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Speaker 1: But You don't know how to teach him how to
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Speaker 1: be a good man because you never heard a man talk,
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Speaker 1: You never heard a man think. You misinterpret my silence.
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Speaker 1: You don't understand that I'm not silent because I don't
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Speaker 1: want to talk to you. That I that I do
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Speaker 1: nonverbal communication. That we don't process out loud unless we've
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Speaker 1: been raised by an influencer that has influenced us to
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Speaker 1: process in a way that is not typically masculine. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I said there, right, Okay, So understanding that it cauts
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Speaker 1: women that are loose to explode. But it was disruptive.
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Speaker 1: It was totally disruptive. I was ahead of the me
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Speaker 1: too movement. I was talking about child abuse and molestation
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Speaker 1: and raping and domestic violence. When nobody in the pulpit
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Speaker 1: was saying that stuff. I was doing them years ago.
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Speaker 1: For the last almost thirty five, almost forty years, I've
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Speaker 1: been doing that kind of stuff. But it was totally disruptive. Hey,
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Speaker 1: but it worked. It ended up in the Georgia Dome
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Speaker 1: and the World Congress Center and the Phillips Arena all
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Speaker 1: filled up with people to the point of overflowing. I
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Speaker 1: have a plaque that was put in the Georgia Dome
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Speaker 1: that says, I broke the Billy Graham records and the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl records for attendance through woman and I are
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Speaker 1: loose a man talking to women. Don't be afraid to
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Speaker 1: do something crazy if it's in your heart to do it.
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Speaker 1: And even even if nobody believes in it and they
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Speaker 1: won't publish it and they laugh at you and they
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Speaker 1: think it's crazy, do it anyway, Do it anyway. I
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Speaker 1: wrote the book Sore, and at the time I wrote Saw,
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Speaker 1: the publisher said, that's not going to work. Business books
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Speaker 1: are not selling well. I said, look, okay, I think
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Speaker 1: we were on the New York Times Bestsellers lest for
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Speaker 1: about sixteen weeks, twelve weeks like that. It was soaring
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Speaker 1: because I knew that our community needed to hear about
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Speaker 1: soaring in life. Am I right? We've had so many
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Speaker 1: sorrows and not enough soaring, and so Sore is wain
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Speaker 1: to tell you how to build the plane, like the
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Speaker 1: Right Brothers how to build?
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Speaker 3: Said the Right Brothers, by the way, not the White brothers.
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Speaker 1: The Right Brothers built the first airplane in a bicycle shop.
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Speaker 1: I use them as a metaphor because you don't have
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Speaker 1: to have everything you need to build everything. You see,
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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm talking to somebody out don't know
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Speaker 1: who it is.
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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know time time is wrapping
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Speaker 3: up Bishop.
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Speaker 2: But you know everybody here that's listening to this conversation,
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Speaker 2: everybody that's gonna read this book, I know immediately they're
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Speaker 2: going to think, I want to go be disruptive, Right,
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Speaker 2: So I want to know, how can you know someone
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Speaker 2: think their way into disrupting disruption without being disruptive?
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Speaker 1: If what when I started talking about the flour and
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Speaker 1: the eggs and the sugar and the milk and the butter,
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Speaker 1: and that in order to make it be a cake,
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Speaker 1: you have to disrupt it in the mixing bowl. The
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Speaker 1: outcomes teach you whether the disruption was worth it or destructive.
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Speaker 1: If what comes out of the disruption is the cake,
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Speaker 1: then the disruption was worth it. But if I'm so
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Speaker 1: busy protecting the flour that I won't disrupt it, it
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Speaker 1: will never reach its highest potential. Okay, some of us
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Speaker 1: are so afread of making ways, making noise, drawing criticism,
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Speaker 1: drawn attention, that we never reach our fullest potential. What
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Speaker 1: happens is, instead of having noise outside you got noise inside.
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Speaker 1: I should have I would have, I could have. I
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Speaker 1: wish I could do it again. Then you get bitter
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Speaker 1: and miserable and hard to live with, because a person
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Speaker 1: who has deep regret can be very hard to live with.
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Speaker 1: I would rather have failure than't regret. At least I
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Speaker 1: know I tried it. At least I answered my question
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Speaker 1: about it. People talk about how Peter walked on the
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Speaker 1: water and he began to sing, and all the preachers
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Speaker 1: treating about he beginning to sing.
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Speaker 4: I think, shut up, he got to walk. He's only
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Speaker 4: this hypolin history. They got to walk on water, what
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Speaker 4: are you talking about? And God Jesus to walk him
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Speaker 4: all the way back to the boat. That sounds like
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Speaker 4: a pretty good deal to me. So can you imagine
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Speaker 4: the disciples sitting I'm having lunch at Starbucks or something
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Speaker 4: like that, and Paul was talking about I speak five
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Speaker 4: different languages, and Matthew saying wow, I was a tax
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Speaker 4: collector for years, And Peter said, Hey, I walked on water, dude,
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Speaker 4: I literally walked on water in front of everybody. Okay,
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Speaker 4: nobody was ever able to say that they took a
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Speaker 4: hike or went jogging in a storm on the water.
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Speaker 4: But Peter and yes, she got in trouble, but it
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Speaker 4: was worth it because he ends up having an encounter
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Speaker 4: that he would have never had and an escort back
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Speaker 4: to the boat and he made it safely through.
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Speaker 1: That's us. Don't be afraid to get your feet wet.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: I called Bishop Bishop to drip Jake's because he'd be
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Speaker 2: so clean all the time. Well we're gonna start calling him
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Speaker 2: bishop to disrupt the Jakes. Thank you, mister Jakes. Appreciate you, brother,
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Speaker 2: thank you, Yes, sir
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