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Star Wars: The Force Awakens with Demi Adejuyigbe · The Bechdel Cast

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  Speaker 1: On the beck Dol Cast, the questions asked if movies
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  Speaker 1: have women and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends
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  Speaker 1: and husbands, or do they have individualism the patriarchy zef
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  Speaker 1: invest start changing it with the beck Del Cast. Hello
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  Speaker 1: and welcome to the Bectel Cast. My name is Caitlin,
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  Speaker 1: my name is Jamie, and we are here to talk
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  Speaker 1: about the portrayal of women in movie as we do
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  Speaker 1: every single every se damn week week. You're welcome every
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  Speaker 1: single listeners. I today have the second day, second episode
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  Speaker 1: in a row. I've elected to go for a Mike's
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  Speaker 1: Would you call it your flavor? It? I would never
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  Speaker 1: say that, but as all the Mike's products are, it
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  Speaker 1: is very bad. It's bad for you. When you tell
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  Speaker 1: people you drink it, they think that you are a kidding.
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  Speaker 1: So crack open on Mike's Harder Blood Orange today and
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  Speaker 1: embarrass yourself in front of your friends and colleagues. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the Becktel Cast. Yeah we um if you
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  Speaker 1: are like Bechtel, what could that ever be on earth? Well,
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  Speaker 1: we borrowed from the Bechtel test, which is a test
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  Speaker 1: that you apply to movies or shows or whatever, anything
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  Speaker 1: with characters. Yeah, and it requires that two female characters
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  Speaker 1: have names, talk to each other, and their conversation cannot
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  Speaker 1: be about a man too much to ask most of
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  Speaker 1: the time. Do you want to demo it really quick?
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to. Okay, so we're two female characters. Hey, Jamie, Hi, Caitlin,
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  Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Oh for sure. I
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  Speaker 1: love answering questions. Yeah, great, I love asking them. Um,
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  Speaker 1: have you ever seen Star Wars A New Hope episode four? Um? No,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen that movie. I haven't seen it before.
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting because we actually we did an episode about
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  Speaker 1: it about a year. Yeah, that's wild. And you, if
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  Speaker 1: I recall correctly, I was also very late for that.
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  Speaker 1: You were extremely late. Yes, it was forty five minutes late,
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  Speaker 1: and I had not watched the movie. Yeah, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: just finding this out. So can I just say, Caitlin,
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  Speaker 1: here's a character who I'm always rooting for. I love
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  Speaker 1: so much. I'm sorry, and I know. I also didn't
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  Speaker 1: want the Matrix and I still haven't watch The Matrix.
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  Speaker 1: And I would encourage our listeners to go back to
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  Speaker 1: those revisit those episodes and really just see a woman
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  Speaker 1: at the end of her roope grasp when he gets stress,
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  Speaker 1: desperately trying to participate in the conversation. Well, the funniest
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  Speaker 1: thing about the Star Wars episode that you did not
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  Speaker 1: watch the movie for is that you reference Princess Leiah
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  Speaker 1: in a number of other episodes that we've done as
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  Speaker 1: if like, Wow, it's just like Princess Leiah. I was
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  Speaker 1: listening to what you were saying about her. She sounds
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  Speaker 1: like a I mean, well, now I've seen this movie
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  Speaker 1: for real, have seen the movie we're talking about today,
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  Speaker 1: and she seems great. She seems great. It seems like
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of fan service done. But but I
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  Speaker 1: can't be sure. Sure, we cannot be sure. Maybe one
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  Speaker 1: day you'll go back and I'll break the Bechdel test
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  Speaker 1: now to say that Harrison Ford is our worst actor,
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  Speaker 1: the world's worst actor. Disagree and oh he's bad, He's
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  Speaker 1: he's not great in this movie. But the name of
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  Speaker 1: movie Harrison Ford is like, Wow, what a good actor.
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  Speaker 1: Not just like maybe he's not versatile, maybe he only
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  Speaker 1: plays of himself. When he's doing that, he's doing a
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  Speaker 1: great job. God, he's always manipulating a woman into making
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  Speaker 1: out with him, and he's bad at that. I do
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  Speaker 1: want to mention um when we get into the discussion. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: some of that conversation pass the Bechdel tests, so I
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  Speaker 1: feel good about that until I had to really abuse
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  Speaker 1: Harrison Ford. Well, without much further ado, I think we
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  Speaker 1: should introduce our wonderful guests. You know him from Gilmore Guys.
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  Speaker 1: He's written for the good Place. DEMI did we be
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here having me. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, we're so excited. I'm excited too. I want
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  Speaker 1: to make so many Star Wars. I love this franchise.
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  Speaker 1: That is my favorite one. So tell us about your
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  Speaker 1: history with this. We're talking about the Force Awakens episodes seven.
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  Speaker 1: It's been several of the y and you haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: a single one except for this one, not a one. Question.
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  Speaker 1: How many Star Wars movies do you think they have?
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  Speaker 1: There's been eight? Is eight? Correct? Well, there's also a
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  Speaker 1: Rogue one, which is a Star Wars, a Star Wars stories,
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  Speaker 1: a Star Wars movie, but it doesn't count. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: in the universe, it's it's cannon. It counts. It's like
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  Speaker 1: the Tokyo drift of the franchise. It's oh see, now
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  Speaker 1: we're talking a language I can speake now, okay if
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  Speaker 1: it's a Tokyo okay, if that makes sense. But there's
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  Speaker 1: also the Star Wars Christmas Special. I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 1: much that counts. And there's an Ewok movie. There's like
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  Speaker 1: the Great Ewok Adventure for I feel like I would
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  Speaker 1: like that ans fun. I'm a big fan of e
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  Speaker 1: walks and I'm a big fan of two. Now is
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  Speaker 1: that polarizing? Wait, people do not really like walks. People
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  Speaker 1: don't like e walks, but I think they're fine. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm also the one who has taken a liking
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  Speaker 1: to minions, mostly because people hate minions and I'm just like,
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  Speaker 1: they're fine, and then by people being like I hate them, Like, actually,
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  Speaker 1: I love them. Now there's an active resistance. Sure, he
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  Speaker 1: speaking of the resistance. Yeah, let's bring it back to
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  Speaker 1: Star Minions are fine, there's nothing wrong with them. I agree.
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  Speaker 1: My history with the Force Awakens funny enough. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like this is like me throwing stones and glass houses,
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  Speaker 1: because up until the Force Awagons came out, I had
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  Speaker 1: not seen any of the Star Wars movies. Except four,
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  Speaker 1: Episode three, which I only saw in feeders because everyone
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  Speaker 1: was like very excited about it and I was like thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, fine, I'll see what this is all about.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I had a pretty good time.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, and then I just didn't see any
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  Speaker 1: of them until for The Force Awakens humble brag. I
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  Speaker 1: was invited to go to the premier. I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: everyone I know is going to kick my ass if
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  Speaker 1: I don't see the other Star Wars movies first. So
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  Speaker 1: I like buckled down and had a marathon of the
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  Speaker 1: original trilogy and then I really liked it. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is a cool universe. I'm very excited. And then
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  Speaker 1: I saw The Force Awakens and I was like, it's
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  Speaker 1: really fun. Then I went to see it again on
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  Speaker 1: Opening Night with my friends and that was the last
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  Speaker 1: time I've seen it up until two days ago, and
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  Speaker 1: I really like The Force Awakens. I like this entire
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  Speaker 1: universe me to this is well, Caitlin, this is your
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  Speaker 1: favorite besides Back to the Future or in terms of franchises, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a you know, back to the Future in Indiana
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  Speaker 1: Jones a Star Wars classics. Those are my faith. I
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  Speaker 1: like a series of unfortunate events. I like doubt. That's like,
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  Speaker 1: that's my favorite movie. Yeah, like thirty times I've seen
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  Speaker 1: so many times. Isn't the last line of that movie?
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  Speaker 1: I have doubt? Follow Comma, I have such doubt. Cut
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  Speaker 1: to credits. It's the greatest movie of all time. It's
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  Speaker 1: an actor's film. It's a tone poem. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of horny depth in Doubt. I saw this movie this morning.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was a fun romp. I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up. My brother and my mom were very
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  Speaker 1: into Star Wars when I was growing up, and it
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  Speaker 1: was like their bonding thing, and so I knew that
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  Speaker 1: I didn't like sci fi that much, and so I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, that's their thing, so I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna let them do that. And then my dad and
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  Speaker 1: I would watch Peewee's Playhouse, and that was the division
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  Speaker 1: of the home, because you've got your Star Wars half
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  Speaker 1: of the family, You've got your Peewee's Playhouse half of
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  Speaker 1: the family. And so I know, I never I've heard
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  Speaker 1: a lot of Star Wars talk. I'm able to recognize
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  Speaker 1: a lot. I do think I saw half of the
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  Speaker 1: third movie now. I think I did see half of
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  Speaker 1: it in theaters, but we did leave because my grandfather
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  Speaker 1: fell asleep and some people were concerned that he had
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  Speaker 1: passed away. I feel like I might have told you
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  Speaker 1: this story before. I don't think so I haven't. I
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  Speaker 1: have not seen I don't remember anything. I know even
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  Speaker 1: McGregor's in it, and that he has a line that
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  Speaker 1: he yells. So I have such doubt and all even
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  Speaker 1: McGregor reboot of Doubt that I would past. I've seen
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  Speaker 1: Doubt thirty times, and then I've also seen several high
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  Speaker 1: school productions of Doubt. What I seek them out because
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  Speaker 1: it's too heavy for high school to be performing, and
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  Speaker 1: absolutely they fumble it every single time. I love high
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  Speaker 1: school productions of Doubt. Their wild doubt exists before the movie.
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  Speaker 1: Pills are winning play. Okay, I thought that you've just
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  Speaker 1: seen a ton of like high school or since like
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  Speaker 1: two thousan plays of Doubt. They're super into it. I
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  Speaker 1: feel bad for old people and that you, the older
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  Speaker 1: you get, you can't fall asleep anywhere without people being
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  Speaker 1: worried about you. That's unfortunate. Yeah, let's bring it back
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  Speaker 1: to Star Wars. The Love to Tell you, unlike all
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  Speaker 1: the freaking posers in this room. I'm sorry. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: Star Wars fan through and through. I saw the original
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  Speaker 1: trilogy as a kid many times. I actually grew up
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  Speaker 1: watching a TV edit of Return the Jedi that we
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  Speaker 1: taped off of TV, and it's actually a much better
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  Speaker 1: movie than the theatrical version of Return of the Jedi.
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  Speaker 1: Its shorter, it's shorter, and they just like they cut
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  Speaker 1: out some like stupid stuff that doesn't need to happen,
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  Speaker 1: and it like makes for because people are like Return
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  Speaker 1: to Jedi stupid because of all the Ewoks and they're
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  Speaker 1: just like little. They have like a big Teddy Bear
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  Speaker 1: party at the end. It's cute. I've only seen picks.
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  Speaker 1: They're very cute. So people like generally I think, don't
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  Speaker 1: like Return to Jedi that much, but it's always been
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  Speaker 1: my favorite because I grew up seeing this like much
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  Speaker 1: more streamlined, better cut of the movie that I didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize wasn't the actual cut of the movie until I
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  Speaker 1: got it on DVD. I was like, Oh, what's this?
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  Speaker 1: All this extra ship that is um So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: you know, I grew up with Star Wars. I saw
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  Speaker 1: The Force Awakens on opening night, I was decided premiere,
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  Speaker 1: though didn't go to the premier. I guess maybe I'm opposed.
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  Speaker 1: And I have also seen The Last Jedi, which I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to get into except to say that it
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  Speaker 1: does pass the Becto test on more than one occasion,
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  Speaker 1: which I was very pleasantly about. Yes, got it, that's
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  Speaker 1: the new one. But we're here to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: Force Awakens, so I will do the recap. So in
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  Speaker 1: the scrolling opening crawl, the part with the score and
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  Speaker 1: the words on the screen book, the book, the book
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  Speaker 1: of the movie, yes, the reading parts, we learned that
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  Speaker 1: Luke Skywalker has vanished, and the First Order is like
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  Speaker 1: this new Empire, so that they're the new bad guys
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  Speaker 1: and they're very bad. And Lea a k. General Organa
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  Speaker 1: is the leader of the Resistance, which is basically the
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  Speaker 1: Rebels from the original trilogy. Okay, so there's this guy
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  Speaker 1: po Dammeron and he's like here's He's like, I've got
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  Speaker 1: this flash drive, so unreal, everyone's a whole body panic.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, I have this flash drive and on the
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  Speaker 1: flash drive contains information about where Luke Skywalker is and
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  Speaker 1: then he gives it to his droid, this little B
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  Speaker 1: B eight unit. Very cute. Oh that's another polarizing character, right,
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  Speaker 1: people are like bb it's annoying. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: Queer eye queer eyes absolutely, Yeah, no, I think people
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  Speaker 1: generally like B B A But I might be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: It's weird. I had some friends that were making fun
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  Speaker 1: of B B eight around the time of this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you bad friends, They've got to go. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it's weird. Like people are always like I love the droids,
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  Speaker 1: even more of the droids, and then if it's like
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  Speaker 1: an alien, they're like, no, stop that, what's the difference? Right?
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  Speaker 1: So cute, very cute. Indeed. So B B eight runs
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  Speaker 1: off with this flash drive and they're on this planet
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  Speaker 1: Jack who and Kyla Wren shows up a k diet
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  Speaker 1: Darth Vader and he's like, where's Skywalker? I want to
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  Speaker 1: find him too, because he wus to kill him? Is
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  Speaker 1: Adam God baffling? Baffling that he's in these movies? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Got so Kylo Reren captures po Dammer in. Meanwhile, there's
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  Speaker 1: this stormtrooper f hot hot, very hot, and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really like being a stormtrooper, Like this isn't
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  Speaker 1: for me, yeah, and then he takes off his helmet
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh hot, Yeah, now I'm invested, right.
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  Speaker 1: So then we meet Ray Daisy Ridley's character. She's a
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  Speaker 1: freelance scafvenger on Jack Who and Jack Who is a
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  Speaker 1: very gross stand planet that no one likes, and she's
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  Speaker 1: lonely and she doesn't have a family. She's sad. But
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  Speaker 1: then she comes across the B eight She's like, oh wow,
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  Speaker 1: who are you? And then they like, first she's like,
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  Speaker 1: let's not hang out, but then she's like, let's hang out.
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  Speaker 1: They become friends. They do like that bb. It is
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  Speaker 1: just sort of this adorable thing that we are for
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  Speaker 1: sure going to put onto a backpack at some point.
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  Speaker 1: Who people just say exposition to. She's like if there's
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  Speaker 1: that whole part where she's like, my family is not
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  Speaker 1: here anyways, what are you? I'd like a lunch box
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  Speaker 1: with you on it. Like there's She's just like saying
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  Speaker 1: exactly who she is to someone who cannot respond, which
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  Speaker 1: I think is a great way to reveal like what
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  Speaker 1: needs to be expository dialogue in a way that's like
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  Speaker 1: fun for the whole family. Yeah, and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: their conversations is just like repeating what Beate said. It's
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  Speaker 1: just like, you have a flash drive, all right. I
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  Speaker 1: like that. That's one of the ways they choose to
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  Speaker 1: modernize the Star Wars universe is like we have flash drives. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we're no no more floppy disks, and I been an episode.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm just gonna be like, give me your iPad. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be some really creative product placement. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get in the self driving Millennium Falcon the next plin.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, subscribed them on Snapchat. He's so cute hot,
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  Speaker 1: okay real. So meanwhile, so Kylo Ren has captured Damer. Agree,
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  Speaker 1: all right, we have to we have to just say it.
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  Speaker 1: We for some hot for most not hot. So he
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  Speaker 1: like forced tortures Po Dammer in trying to find out
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  Speaker 1: where this information about where Luke Skywalker is and he
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  Speaker 1: figures out that this b B eight has it, so
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  Speaker 1: he's like, okay, I'm gonna go get it. But then
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  Speaker 1: F seven breaks Po out of like whatever ship they're on,
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, let's escape. I'm helping you. Have a
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  Speaker 1: great scene between the two of them. It's charged thousand ships. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it was I keep thinking you're saying like this and sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I just I'm sick. But I also cannot articulate words.
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  Speaker 1: They also just chose like two letters that sound like
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  Speaker 1: another thing. It's their fault. It is their fault. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let us write Star Wars, please do a good job. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he's about to not be called that anymore because Poe
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  Speaker 1: is like, I'm going to call you Finn. So now
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  Speaker 1: he's Finn. Another great moment where he's like he okay,
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  Speaker 1: you can call me whatever you want. Yeah, he's like
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  Speaker 1: a stormtrooper this whole time, but now I suddenly have
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  Speaker 1: a personality. Ever Oscar Isaac tells you your name is
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  Speaker 1: is probably your name from then on, definitely. So they
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  Speaker 1: escape from the First Order, but they crash land on
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  Speaker 1: Jack who and maybe Poe dies, We're not sure. And
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  Speaker 1: then right Finn thanks, po dies, and then he encounters
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  Speaker 1: Ray and b B eight and he lies to her
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I'm a member of the resistance.
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  Speaker 1: Stormtroopers show up. They start shooting. Then they find Millennium Falcon,
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  Speaker 1: so they go off on that. They encounter Han, Solo
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  Speaker 1: and Chewy and everyone's very excited. It was a big
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  Speaker 1: applause moment, and I could, I could, like, in the
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  Speaker 1: back of my head, here a bunch of losers applauding
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  Speaker 1: when stupid Harrison Ford and is dumb. He literally he
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  Speaker 1: practically pauses for He's like, it's the trailer moment. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: an same thing when you see the Millennium Falcon for
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  Speaker 1: the first time. It's just anything that was like that's
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  Speaker 1: from the old movie. That was like, yeah, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of little fans. I mean, and I there's I
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  Speaker 1: truly could not identify them all. But anytime there was
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  Speaker 1: a needless pause, it's like, oh, that's probably relevant to people,
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  Speaker 1: and the score gets all like bright for a sudden right, right,
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  Speaker 1: But it was so exciting to see in the theaters.
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  Speaker 1: Has not hot. Harrison Ford used to be hot. Harrison
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  Speaker 1: Ford is what I call legacy hot, and that he
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  Speaker 1: used to be hot so much so that now it's
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  Speaker 1: just kind of like yeah, yeah, yeah. He still carries
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  Speaker 1: himself as if he's hot, yes, which goes a long way, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like he is acting as if he's extremely hot, which
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  Speaker 1: is maybe his greatest role that he's hot. Just going
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  Speaker 1: back to what you said about how he's not a
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  Speaker 1: good actor, I don't know if I agree, but I
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  Speaker 1: will say he clearly gave up, like somewhere around the
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  Speaker 1: nineties trying to be good at acting, and now it's
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  Speaker 1: just kind of like everyone's just like, well, it's Harrison Ford,
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  Speaker 1: so we don't have to think about it, right. He's
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  Speaker 1: so bankable that, yeah, people just throw him in his
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  Speaker 1: movies and then he'll like, he'll give it. But he's
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  Speaker 1: just kind of interesting that it's like most actors his age,
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  Speaker 1: because he's got to be in his early seventies now
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  Speaker 1: that most actors his age would be at this point
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: being like, oh, I better win a good award before
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I die, And that doesn't seem to be on his list. No,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: he is trying to leave every franchise he's ever done.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: He's trying to constantly crash every like a plane every
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: month or and then also he's high every time he acts,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: so it's just like, yeah, he's a little mess. He
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't He has gone a record of saying like he
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: does not like Star Wars, he doesn't think it's very cool.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Well it shows sure, and then I also think he's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: he is not happy about like more Indiana Jones movies happen.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: He thought he phoned it in for the fourth one over.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean, then you had another mistake. That
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: movie was the first date I went on ever. Was
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: that Indiana Jones movie. Oh God, it's so bad. I'd
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: like to hold that movie personally accountable for the failure
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: of that high school relationship. One of my first dates
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: was to National Treasure to Book of Secrets, also didn't last.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: It makes a difference. It makes a difference. You gotta
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: pick a good movie. Okay, So the rest of the
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Force Awakens is basically Han Solo and Ray are now friends,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: and he's like, maybe do you want a job, and
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: she's like, I don't know. I don't know about this
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: whole thing. She touches a lightsaber, she freaks out about it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: There's a character named Mas and she's like, the fourth
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: is so weird? What a weird to be like Lupita,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the most beautiful woman currently living. We're going to make
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: you until a little aliens that. How do you like it? Right?
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: She nails it. She does old voice very well too. Yeah,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I had to check. It's also like a very I
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: feel like more so in the Last Jedi, which I
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: don't want to spoil, but like it's a very old
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Nigerian woman voice, and I just in the back of
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: my head like, that's my aunt's that's It's great. Yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: So she's like, wow, here's a lightsaber. And then Ray
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: gets captured by Kylo Wren because he figures out that
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: she has seen the map that shows where Luke Skywalker is.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: So he's like, I'm gonna take you. I'm gonna capture you.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: And then Finn and Han Solo and Chrui go and
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, but there's this whole planet destroyer.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It's like a death Star, but even worse. It starts
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: blowing up all the resistance planets or whatever. And then
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: they're like, we gotta stop this, we gotta blow this up.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: And then there's this final showdown between Finn is there,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: but it's mostly between Ray and Tylo Wren, and she's like, wow,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I'm actually getting pretty good this forced thing. And then also,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: how hard is it to beat Adam Driver in a fight.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Anyone in this room could easily take Adam Driver down
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: in forty five seconds. I mean, but Kylo Wren is
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: a character issues a huge daddy issues and really crazy
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: daddy issues that he explains in monologue frequently, especially including
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: one time to his father just before yeah, because it's
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: revealed that Kylo Wren is han Solo and la Organa's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: son because I used to I guess be married and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: then they had a baby and then they're like, actually,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: whenever our son Ben ben Wren or be Solo Ben
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Solo Benzelo, he goes on to be a Jedi. Tub
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: he goes and tries to be a Jedi and then
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: he turns bad. I guess it breaks up Leiah and
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Hansela's marriage. So that's yeah. So then they blow up
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the big planet destroyer planet and at the very end
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: they figure out where Luke Skywalker is because our two
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: D two is like in a coma or whatever, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: he's like, actually, I'm awake now, and then they matched
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the maps together they figure out where Luke is. Ray
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and Chewy go to the planet that he's on and
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: she's like, here, here's your lightsaber, and then smash cut
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to black. That's the end of the movie. Fun movie,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: A fun movie. I think so too. That was my review.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you for that analysis. Adam Driver is a scab.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I don't like him. I think I like him in
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: this franchise. Although I remember in the theater the first
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: moment where he takes off his helmet, there was a
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: lot of giggling. Was same, You're expecting to move like
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: all scarred or something, but he was just yeah. And
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: then it's just this child that like seen on HBO
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: before it is shaking his head such disappointment. Aristotle is
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: literally in love with Adam Driver. I like helping. I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: like Adam Driver as an actor, and I feel like
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: everything I see him and I'm like, okay, you you
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: got some stuff. But like just the moment of having
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: this like very deep voice, like evil force, take off
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: a helmet, it's just like this like angry looking high schooler.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: It's just kind of like, oh oh yeah, like oh
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: was he just caught masturbating to anime on free WiFi.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: That's why he's so very much. He hates dad so
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: much he cut off the WiFi. My my brother texted
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: me maybe a month ago, Adam Driver Bus Driver movie
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: dot dot Dot enjoyed against all odds. Adam Driver plays
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: a bus driver in the movie and apparently it's fine.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I did not. Yeah, it's fine, it's fine. I can't
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: call it bad, but I can't call it much. There's
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: listen that Adam Driver in a nutshell see an all
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Adam Driver reboot of Speed in which he is the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: bus driver, he is whatever other characters are in that movie. Yeah,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I want to see him playing Kiano on him as
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Sandra Bullock. If Adam Driver ever dared to be in
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: a theatrical adaptation of Doubt, I would pick it. Get
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: him out of doubt. He doesn't belong in doubt. So
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: what you're saying is you have doubt about his ability.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I have such such doubt, such doubt. All this conversation
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: has not passed the bats in a good many minutes. Um, okay,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: So I just want to start out by saying this
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: movie much like the original trilogy of Start. I mean,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know episodes one, two, or three fun those movies,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I don't care, But of episodes four or five and six,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: similar to them, Force Awakens is sort of an ensemble cast.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: But you can argue that Luke Skywalker is the main
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: character of the original trilogy. Here in the Force Awakens
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: we have Ray is the main character, so we have
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: a female protagonist. Still, ensemble casts are still lots of
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you know, Finns right up there among the main care
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: there's po Dammeron's pretty important. You know, You've got all
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: these other people. But Ray is the protagonist of the story.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: So we get a female protagonist in a Star Wars
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: movie and she's great. Yeah, we I mean with Rogue one,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: we swear to get too. In like such a small
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: span of time, have you guys already talked about the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: original trilogy? I know you said you talked about we
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: did an episode on a New Hope. How did that unfair?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Because not what I mean. They're like, there's Aunt Brew
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: who gets murdered almost instantly, and then there's Princess Leah,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: who we said was a strong character who makes active
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: choices and does things in the movie, but she has
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: no plot, fox her over at every turn and get there,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: no amen to talk to. She's captive immediately yea, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: she needs to be rescued. All this stuff. So this
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: movie fares much better compared to the original trilogy in
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: terms of a female character doing things, influencing the plot,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and having it be her story, like her journey largely. Um,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: there's subplots that focus around other characters. But and as
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: we see not to spoil anything for the last Jedi,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: but like it's a continuation of sort of her journey
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: of like her force powers and honing them and whatnot.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it was so exciting for me to see
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: this movie for the first time and be like, holy
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: fucking ship. We have a female protag in a Star
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Wars movie, and she is so good at what she does.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: She's okay, so she's doesn't have a family. She's on
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: this planet Jeck who she's scavenging stuff. But she somehow
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: also knows how to speak B B eights Droid language.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Constantly confused about how what language be be it is
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: speaking how literally everyone he meets can understand it, communicate clearly.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Problem Finn cannot, but yeah, somehow can because Finn only
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: speaks Star It's unclear although everyone speaks English, everyone speaks
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: in Yeah. Yeah, I would like to argue there's all
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: this question about who is Ray, who are her parents?
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Did Ada? I'm gonna go ahead and say that I
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: think that C three p O is raised father because
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: he was an interpreter. He speaks so many languages, and
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: she does too. She understands, she knows how to speak Wookie.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: She speaks with another alien on Jack who she understands
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: B B eight. Somehow I think that she is part
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: droid and that Po is her father. When C three
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Po makes love, Oh heaven. This goes back into a
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: previous discussion we've had about when beetlejuice makes love, no discussion.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Juice for sure comes scabs, But but are they wet
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: or dry? Is the question? Dry? Dr about this? So wait?
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Interesting because I would say, like a wet deck of
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: cards being flipped would be the sound I have to
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: go home deck of cards if you put if you
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: dunked a deck of playing cards into a bucket of
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: water and then shuffled them, that would be the sound
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: three bolts? Does he come? Bolts? Yeah? Sure, anything to
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: move this conversation. I don't think three po comes. How
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: does he get how does he get someone pregnant? Look?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: He comes in binary code somehow like a print out, Yeah,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: like receipt. Basically it's like wherever his genitals are, because
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: there's also nothing there right Like I feel like we
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: would not just like the Matrix that other movie that
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: you didn't see, although I will say I don't think
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: you're missing much with the Matrix. Was my impression, does
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the matrix pass test um? Kind of that was a
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: sort of pet Yeah, it was like a just barely
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. But anyway, okay, so I want to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: start by talking about the scene where she and Finn
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: first and counter each other on Jack who. Here's what happens.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Ray gets attacked by these two guys who are trying
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: to steal B B eight because they're like, he's a drawing,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: He's worth so many portions of muffin, blueberry muffins or
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: whatever they're currently muffins. I hope this entire COMMUNI is
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: based on Often I don't think they say they just
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: say quarter portions, right, But then you see her like
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: empty that little packet into like a little dish of
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: water and then it like bakes into muffins. Honestly super cool,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: And I was like, how they That was a part
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: where I was generally like, whoa, this is a wondrous world.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that was the part where I was like,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: holy shit, I know, it's amazing. I love how people
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: talk about Jack Coo in this movie of like every
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: time she's like I have to get home, they're like,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: but it sucks. It's just like aliens giving out pieces
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: of muffin. Why would you ever come back to his
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: space Florida? Oh yeah, it's like every time they're like,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: but I'm from there, They're like, forget it, You're you left,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: you don't go back. Okay. So these two guys are
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: trying to steal B B eight back from Ray and
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: she fights them off, She beats them up. She doesn't
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: need to be saved. She like holds her own. Then
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Finn like sees this happening, and then he spots b
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: B eight because po dammon, had just been like, I've
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: got a droid. It's white and orange, is one of
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: a kind. And he's like, hey, that's the droid they're
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: looking for. And then which if you'd ever seen a
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Star Wars movie, you would realize that that was a
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: great reference. But you had a magnet something, Yeah, we
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: had a refrigerator magnet that said that in my house. Cute. Okay.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: There's like a little misunderstanding about like, oh did Finn
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: steal pose jacket? What happened? But then they clear up
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: this misunderstanding. Really titanic reference a jacket stealing a plot
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: point of can we trust this person? You stole? A jacket.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: DiCaprio steals a jacket and Titanic, can we trust him?
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Why do you look confused? What do you? Because I
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: saw Titanic one time and I think two one, and
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: all I remember is the scene where ship captain jumps
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: off and then hits his head and does a bunch
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: of flips. That's an iconic scene. That's one of the
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: most iconic scenes. I was on the verge of Tears
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: and that happened, and I'm just like, oh, I'm laughing now.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not E. J. Smith the captain, it's
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: just a random guy. But yeah, that does. Yeah, Okay, again,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I saw it once. It was three hours. I was nine.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: You'll have to take our word for it. For sure.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: He steals a jacket, and that's supposed to be like,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: can we trust Leon, added DiCaprio. He stole a jacket,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I believe it. Yeah, and Finn, and in both cases
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: you can trust him. He just happened to take a jacket. Yeah, absolutely,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: he was cold. So okay, So Ray goes after Finn
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and she's just like, what the fuck? And then the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: stormtroopers show up. Finn grabs raised hand and then they
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: start running and she's just like, what are you doing?
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Why are you grabbing my hand? And I would like
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: to say that I don't think that he would have
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: done that if she were not a woman, if sheely
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: a man, he would have never liked grabbed her hand
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and like run off. They would have been like, come
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: with me, do that right? And I wish that he had.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't just stand with Jon again and Oscar Isaac
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: holding hands. That's a horny thing. The most screen cap
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: scene and fifteen. So then they start running off. Fans
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: like come on home, we got to move. And then
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: she's like I know how to run with that. You
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: holding my hand, so she is like, don't touch me.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I can do this on my own. I love that
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: in the theaters just because it was like it was
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: such a weird thing to see him grab her hand
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: and then for her to immediately be like I don't
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: need this and then like sort of run a little
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: bit ahead of him. I was like that just such
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: a good character development because I mean't know him stranger
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that yeah, And we see in movies so often where
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: that does happen, where a guy grabs a girl's hand
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and they have to run off, and she does not
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: protest because she doesn't have a character probably, or my
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: favorite agregeous example, Brendan Fraser lunges three at you through
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: a cage and starts making out with you, and you
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: fall in love with him instantly. I haven't even seen
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the mom me and I know he's feral in a
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: cage and makes Rachel White's fall in love with him instantly.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: That's the Brendan Fraser touch. Yeah, So they're running away,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: they take cover for a second, and then they have
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to run again because he hears something and then he
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: grabs her hand again. She's like, stop taking my hand,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: so she keeps protesting, and then explosion happens and he
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: gets knocked out, and then she shakes him awake, and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: then he immediately says, are you okay? And she's just like, yeah,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sucking okay, bitch, like you're the one who passed out.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: But again, I don't think he would have asked her that.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: If she was a man, he would have been like,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: let's go right. So then they start running again and
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: she's like, we gotta go to this ship, like you said.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: It's worth noting that she's running ahead of him. So
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: she never needs at him to grab her and pull
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: her along. She's a faster runner. She's in the lead
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: for so much of this movie, and he's the one
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: who would like had to escape his own sort of
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: capture and was worried for so much and then find
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: this Woman's like, I have to save her, and she's like, good, yeah.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, the one point of leverage he has over
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: her is that lie that falls apart halfway through the movie,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: that he's a member of the resistance, right right. I
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: think that's the one thing he has. But that and
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: kind of falls apart in the middle of the movie anyways,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: and he never really he doesn't use it to manipulate
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: her in in a in a in an evil way,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: like in a in a nefarious way. I would say,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: he's never like, oh, you shouldn't fall in love with
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: me because I'm a handsome resistance He's like, but he's
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: lying hard enough that Harrison Ford has to be like,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you're lying, bit, and that's not good. That's not a
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: good precedent. If Harrison Ford has to say you're doing
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: something wrong. Okay, I'm high, so I shouldn't know my
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: lines are being fed to me through an earpiece. No,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: he's not Johnny dead because it's an alcoholic fucking mess.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Why this is depcast? Okay, So she's like, we gotta
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: outrun them, and he's like we can't. She's like, we
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: can't not quadrumper. And then he's like, we need a
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: pilot and she's like, we've got one. He's like you,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: he assumes that she's not a pilot, probably because she's
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: a woman. I'm gonna make the guess that happens a
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: couple of times. I mean that happens when they encounter
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Han solo two, where she has to keep reminding people
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: as You're like, no, I am a pilot, and even then,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: and I think that this is like kind of a
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: common experience of you know, she keeps telling people I'm
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: a pilot, and I feel like with most male characters,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and this happens in comedy all the fucking time too.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: It's like where people won't be like, oh, wow, you
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: really are a pilot until they've already seen you do
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: it successfully, Whereas with male characters, it's like, I'm a
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: pilot and they're like, oh great. Perfect. Every day, every
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: time I see a woman to stand up, I'm always
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: surprise that they're also a pilot. Yeah, yeah, actually I
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: can't watch me do a Type five and then let
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: me fly your plane. I've been like standing in a
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: circle at like a comedy venue with several men and
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: have like a guy approach us and ask every single
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: person in the circle except for me if they are comics.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: And none of the guys that they asked were comics,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: and I was the only comic in the bunch. But
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: because they're just like, well you have comic right, kill
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: them all. I guess all the guys who I was
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: standing with, who I'm friends with, none of them were like, no,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: we're not comics. But she is so funk all of
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: those people. It's it's weird that they had to ask
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: every single person before, Like I feel like, if you
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: get like two in you probably probably not comics circle
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: at all. But I wasn't gonna be like I didn't comedian.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: That was like, that was one of the parts of
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: this movie where I was like, oh, yeah, I feel
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I feel that. But where it's like you have to
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: tell someone that this is your job, but they still
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: don't believe you until they see you do it. And
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: she has to do that a couple of times, and
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: whether or not it's a gender thing doesn't get explicitly
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: common died on, but I feel like it's safe to assume.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like just that it happened. Yeah, And I
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: think the fact that it wasn't explicitly mentioned as a
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: gender thing is one of the strengths of this movie
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: because I think if they had, then you just lose
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: so many of the people who don't want to learn
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the lesson explicitly, like all the guys who are like, oh,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: they're trying to push it in my face. But like,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: if you don't do that, then you can't really claim
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: that they're trying to. It's like, if they don't mention
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: that she's a woman, then you are just taking this
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: on yourself and you're complaining about something that you had
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: to interpret. So I like it it was sort of unspoken. Same, Yeah, definitely.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: And then they bore the Millennium falcon and immediately Ray
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: is like the gunner positions down there, so she like
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: kind of like tells him what to do. He just
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: goes and does it, and then she gets in the
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: cockpit and having never flown this same before, I don't
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: know how she knows how to be a pilot. But
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I don't even question. I'm like, yeah, she's of course,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: guess yeah. Plus, I mean she's a scavenger. She like
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: she goes into all these like Empire ships that like
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: crashed on Jack Who And like so I'm like, okay,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: she probably knows ship apparatus because she scavenges that ship
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: all the time. But somehow she knows how to be
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: a pilot, and she's very good at it. She doesn't
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: all by herself, doesn't need a co pilot. And then
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: they escape the stormtroopers and then they fly off, and
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: then the scene immediately follows that after they've escaped, she
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and Finn meat in the middle somewhere and they're like, Wow,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: good job. That was amazing. You did a great job too.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: You totally me And that was so great for me
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: to see because I feel like so often in movies
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: you'd see a guy being like, well, I guess you
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: did okay, okay, yeah, yeah right right, Like Finn and
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Ray have such team vibes throughout this movie that it's
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: it's it's great. It's the opposite of Harrison Ford's don't
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: get cocky in the original y. Yeah, they're immediately just
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: like you were great, you did that. Yeah, it's such
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: a nice moment. They like each other. Yeah, this is
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: great because yeah, like usually you'd see either the guy
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: be like that wasn't that hard? I could have done that,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: or the guy to a woman him seeing that, and
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: then he'd be like, oh, I'm so horny. Now she
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: can do on a horribone er. So the fact that that, yeah,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: they're like, wow, the woman did a thing, and and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: now I must now I had to put my face
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: on her face. Nothing turns me on more than seeing
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: a woman do something I thought only men could. Yeah,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: So the fact that neither of those reactions happened from
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Finn was refreshing and I really liked it. Well, neither
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: of those reactions happened for a little bit from Finn.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: It takes a bit, Yeah, it takes a bit, but
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I kind of like seeing him in crisis a little bit.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: And Han Solo is, thank god, is not in it
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: so much that we have to deal with it plot wise.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: But when the scene where Han Solo is offering Ray
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: a job, is you see I mean, because he's not
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: a feminist icon, let's say, and you see sort of
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: him struggling with like, you know, any time that he
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: compliments her, it's backed by an insult of like, well,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pay you enough, which is like, well,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: she's a woman, of course you're not there. There's well
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I'll be like, RUI likes you, so I guess I
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: can keep you around. When it's clearly like an example
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: of him unable to express himself because he's a man.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: He cannot be caught saying that a woman is capable, right,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: he can't be on record. If he was better at
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: expressing his emotions, like Kylo run might not exist. So true,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: he could have saved everyone a lot of trouble. He's
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: just like, hey, I'm proud of you. I love you,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: and you are my son. Yeah, this whole movie is
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Hans fault. God, it was a nightmare. I love you,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I love my wife. We did a great job raising you.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I cherish her input into your life. And and none
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: of this. He's just a nice boy. I didn't driver
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: good of a space accountant, but instead we get a
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: fun movie. Oh and then okay, so right after Ray
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: and Finn have their little great job, then something like
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: poisonous guests start sleeking in the Millennium Falcon and then
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: like Ray just like jumps at it immediately. She's like
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: she knows exactly what to do. She's like, hand me
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that fucking wrench, handing the screwdriver. He doesn't really know
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: what he's doing. He doesn't know tools. This is all
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: to say, this whole long sequence is something we haven't
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: seen before in a Star Wars movie. I mean maybe
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: it's in the prequels. Who gives a ship I don't know,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: but just a competent woman who is driving the narrative,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: making choices and like being better than everyone else at
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: what they're doing was just like so fucking and and
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: kind of like you're saying to me, it's like a
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: lot of attention isn't called to like, whoa look at
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: this woman did it? Because that is like a weird
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: thing that happens in movies a lot have like I've
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: never seen a girl do this thing before, and it's like,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: you know what they're going for, but it is kind
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: of a dated, weird approach to it. I'm also so
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: glad they didn't do that thing. We're like Ray like
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: successfully maneuvers and she's just like what I grew up
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: with four Brothers. It's like that so frustrating and from
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: moment one when Ray is on screen, because I watched
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: the first thing she appears in a couple of times
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: and there's like, I don't think any dialogue in it
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: when we first see her, but like she's just like
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: even the ways she's framed by the movie is she's
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: framed like a protagonist and like a hero and not
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: like how a woman would normally be framed in any
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: sort of action movie, which I thought was so great
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: and I watched it a couple of times. I'm like, oh,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: we're just seeing a straight shot of the main character
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: of the movie, which shouldn't seem like a big deal,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: but it was nice to see just her being framed
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: like a hero and not like although a thing happens.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if this was intentional or not,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: but the first time you see her on screen, you
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: don't know the gender of this person because they're like
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: in a big mask and goggles and you can't see
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: her face or anything like that. And this happens sometimes
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: in movies where like a lot a lot of mask removals. Yeah,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and it'll be like, in fact, it happens in Return
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: of the Jedi and Jabs Palace whenever Leiah is the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: person who comes in and he's like trying to negotiate
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: for Hanselo's life. She's got a thermal detonator and it's
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: a whole thing. And then later she takes off the
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: mask and it's late and we're like, holy food. But
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: it happens a lot where someone you would probably assume
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: to be a male character is in a mask or
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: they've got like a helmet on or something like that,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: and then they take it off and surprise, it's a woman.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: And it's meant to be this, like, well, reveal the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: thing that you sat was a man is actually a woman.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: And I don't, like I said, I don't know if
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: that's intentional in this movie or not, but it's sort
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: of it happens. It for sure happens. So like I said,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like I'm just kidding it's a woman. I
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: don't know that. I mean, obviously I know literally next
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: to nothing about this franchise, but just given the fact
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: that we get a kind of similar shot of fucking
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Adam Driver in the same I don't know, it might
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: not be like a meant to be like a well,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like because it happens before any sort of
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: major action, it was just kind of like, here's an
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: introduction to who this person is. But if it was
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: like we see her in a fight and then you're
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: most the mask, then I'd be like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: The context is important for that, yeah, because often when
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: it happens in movies when it's like very annoying is
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: they'll take off the helmet and then she's got this
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: long flowing hair that she whips around and then she's
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: like it was me all along, boys, and it's just
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: like really agregious and stupid. It's like the you know
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: in Little Rascals when she takes off her helmet and
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: it's like Reba or whatever, like my hero was a girl,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: right exactly, I need to have it's Reba. It's always
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: and I'm always surprised. I love Reba. Remember when Kyler
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Ren took off the mask and it was okay. So
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: there's a few more scenes I want to talk about,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: starting with the scene where they have met Han Solo
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: and Chewy and there's these like wrath cars running around
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: and Han Solo's ship and what they're like these big
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: monster creatures. Okay, scary guys. Yeah, they've got like tentacles
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, And Finn gets grabbed by one of
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: them and like carried off and then Ray ends up
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: having to save him. So it's the reverse of what
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: we often see of a man having to save a woman.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: But she like does this whole thing where she's like
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: looking at these monitors, she like figures out when the
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: exact moment is to shut the doors to like sever
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: the tentacles that the rath tire is holding Finn with, right,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: and then he's like, wow, the door did you see that?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: And she's like, yeah, that was lucky. So I didn't
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: feel the need to gloat about it and be like,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: yeah that was me. So I just like that you
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: saw a woman having to save a man. I also
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: love that at no point does it feel like you go, like, what,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: how did she know how to do this? It's like
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: she's been on her own for so long you could
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: understand that, like she's had to survive and learn how
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: to do things. She's probably like brilliant person, so all
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: of the development skills that she goes, like the things
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: that she does to save other people in this movie,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: and like the action she takes never feel like when
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Luke Skywalker was just a farm boy and like suddenly
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: she's like, I'm going to be a warrior now. It's like, well,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: she's been on her own for so long and straight
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: up like defending herself from like scavengers and like saving
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: people in the desert, Like it makes sense that she
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: could be like I'm going to chop off that. Yeah, totally.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: And then in the next scene, Han and Ray are
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: trying to escape in the Millennium Falcon and they're like
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: having trouble getting the Millennium Falcon started. There's like beeping
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: and like she keeps being like, no, it's this thing.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: The compressor hit that switch, did it? And then like
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: at one point she pulls out this like mechanical thing.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: She pulls out a thing and then she's like I
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: bypass the compressor and he's just like, okay, I liked
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: that because she was so that was like one of
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the few months where like, oh she was so stuked
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: right down. Everyone's just like, um what again. It's it's
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: showing you that she knows her ship, she's kind of
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: better than everyone and what she's doing and just like
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: it is so competent, because again, you don't see like
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: if a woman's doing machinery things in movies, like she
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: can't do anything. And but maybe it's also that thing
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: that annoys me, where like a woman is good at
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: fixing a car, but that never I feel like that
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't apply to this movie at least, Yeah, she knows.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I mean like there aren't any of those like cheesy
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: lines of like a female character justifying why she would
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: know how to fix a car because her daddy was
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: a mechanic or something. So he just raised me like one,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: like a little like it was just yeah, where that's
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: just an element of the story that exists, and it
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: isn't because often when we see it and it's really
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: stupid like it is and Transformers, for example, it's a
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: skill that's like somehow sexualized. They're like, look at how
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: hot I look when I bend over the hood of
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: this car and reach into the thing exactly. But for Ray,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: it's just like she just knows how to do that
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: because that's her character and it works. So there's that. Now, Uh, sorry,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I've got an agenda. You're so prepared. I all my
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: notes are. I just keep writing a name of actor hot?
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Is there anyone in this movie that isn't hot? Though
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: personal taste and driver not a hot pretty much everyone
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: else hot, And I include Andy Serkus Andy Circus hot
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: as smoke or just Andy Circus as Andy Serkus. Andy
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Circus as a person is amazing. A Circus is SnO,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I'll take it, okay, why not? You can tell there's
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: some hotness there. There's some hotness. Yeah, he's got an attitude. No,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: he's a brooder used to be hot. I think he's
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: definitely Yeah, before he got whatever, like weird scarred down
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: the front. I want to see a young photo smoke,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: young smoke, like, oh, it's Paul Newman. Give us a
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: young Snoke series. So the next thing I wanted to
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: talk about is when Kylo Ren captures Ray, presumably she
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: would need to be saved. However, what's different about this
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: is that in so many movies you see when like
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: a bad guy captures a woman, it's because she needs
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: to be used as bait so that the mail he
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: he can come and save her, or it's like we're
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: taking this woman that you love to hurt you or
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: something like that. But this is about her value and
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: her abilities and also her knowledge where at first when
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: that happened, I was like, Oh, it's maybe, but it's
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: not really a DAMSELI kind of yeah, because she has
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: to bail a million people out through the course of
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: this movie. And then yeah, she's being I mean, she's captured,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: but she but she's captured because of her and not
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: because of her value as it pertains to another mail Exactly. Yeah,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: she's captured because she has the information that he needs,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: not because she's going to be used as bait. You
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: can capture people, you just have to respect their abilities, exactly.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: And granted Finn and Hanselo and Chewy go to save her,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: but like you said, she's never damseled. She never has
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: to be like picked up and carried away or anything
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: like that. She doesn't need to be physically saved because
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: the first thing she does is like stop Kylo Wren
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: from like getting the information he needs. She like totally resists,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: and then she uses the force to make a stormtrooper
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: like release her from the shackles that she's in. A
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: stormtrooper that I might add is hot because it's Daniel Creis.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: It is Daniel Craig. What. Yeah, he has like a
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: little cameo. He's just in a Stormtrooper o. That's so weird,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: that's very key. Did he just ask? I think so?
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I think. I think the story was they were shooting
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Bond nearby and they just like, do you want to
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: have a cameo, And of course he's going to say yes.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: It's everyone's dream. It's so exciting for him. And then
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: the new one, Prince Harry and Prince someone else, William
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I think our Stormtroopers, and so was Tom Hardy. So weird.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I saw Joseph Gordon Levitt in the credits. I don't
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: know what he does, but he's something I don't know.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: And then Nigel god Rich, who is a producer it
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: does all like the radio albums, is also in the
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Force Awakens. It's just like anyone who's like British and
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: nearby for Melina should be and what should I bet
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: he is And he's too humble, he's so humble. Yeah,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: it was just a pleasure to be a part of it.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: The star of British, the star of Chewing Gum, whose name, Yeah,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: she's good. She's got a little cameo that's very exciting anyway. Okay,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: so yeah, she makes Daniel Craig Untire and then give
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: her his weapon. She's like, drop your gun and he
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: just does it because she's so good at the force already.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: And then she like sneaks her way around the base
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: and then eventually when like Finn finds her, she was fine.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: She didn't need to be like grabbed and saved away.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: She was already pretty much basically all she needed was
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: a ride home. She's more found than rescued, exactly. Yeah, totally. Yeah.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: At one point they even just like look out a
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: window and she's like scaling a wall. She's she's good.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I love that. And then that is followed by the
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: lightsaber battle at the end between Ray and Kylo Wren
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: and she gets knocked out early on, and then Finn
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: fights with the lightsaber for a few minutes, but then
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: he gets injured and almost dies, and then Ray's like,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: actually it's finishes. This was the most cathartic thing to
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: see in the theater both times, Like the moment where
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: like Kylo Ren is trying to grab the lights having
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: flies back and she catches it. Everyone just went fucking
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: crazy and I just felt like the adrenaline like, yes,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: this is why we wanted, so I love it, and
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: it's like another cool team moment where they did it together.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: It's good. Not that she even needed his help, but no,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: but they did it together. I know. I feel like
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Finn's ark for this entire movie is him trying to
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: be like, I gotta save her, and it's her being like,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: thank you, but I really can do this myself, which
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: is is nice. And they still do work together a
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: lot of the time. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. So those are
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: the main things I wanted to talk about that Star Ray,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: But we've got other female characters in this movie as well.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Unlike the original trilogy, when there's pretty much just Princess Leiah,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: she makes she's really a smurfetted Yeah, so Lea's in this.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: She is General Organa. Now she's leading the resistance. She's
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: so fucking good at job. And then we've got mas Kannada.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: She's the lipido character who's like, oh, here's a lightsaber
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the force cold place, you've got pace. What else does
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: she say? Can you read Moby Dick in quick? Yeah?
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: So she gives exposition largely, and then she's just basically like, hey,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Han Solo, quit fucking running away from this fight, you
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: stupid coward, Go talk to Leia figure it out about
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: your son. She's basically just a therapist. I don't know. Yes,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know what her role is in. She's the
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: most recent movie. But it's funny because I feel like
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: this happens with We've seen this a few times with
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: like older female characters who are in the movie for
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit of just like, this is another female
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: character for our like younger protagonist to interact with that imparts,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: you know, just as is like, hey, you've got this,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: and then you know it's like okay, and then we
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: can move forward. It's it's I don't know, yeah, I
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: mean she doesn't do that much, but the fact that
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: she like her Yeah, she's pretty fun too. I feel
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: like a little personality there's she's got that one line
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: where when Han comes in where she's like, where's my
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: boyfriend to talk about? Do you think they have been
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: flirting for a thousand years? Absolutely unreal. She's a business owner,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: so it's true. I wrote I wrote down small business
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: as in she owns a small business or she owns
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: a business and it is small a little bit of both.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: You get the best of about there. Wait, is that
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: like Kantina Hers, I think so yeah, okay, I wasn't
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: sure exactly what her. She's a clean business owner, but
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: she is a small business owner. The other main female
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: character is Captain Pasma, So we get a lady villain
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: and she's like pretty badass. She's a leader of some sort.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: You know that because her things shiny and no one
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: else's costumes Shinese the coolest design of any of the villains.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I wish we got more of her, though the same
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: it might not make much sense for her character to
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: be in the story more, but I don't know. I
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: just I feel like it was a look. It's such
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: a look, it's such a I want more, like well
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: developed lady villains. That sounds like weird, but it's just
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: like I feel like you get so many villains where
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: it's they have good development, but at the end of it,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: their motivation is just like I'm angry, and it's like
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I want more than that, but I also want I
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: feel like so many times in movies their version of
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: being progressive, it's just like, well, if we make the
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: lady the hero, then that's good. But it's like you
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: can make a woman of villain just do it well,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: and I wish that there were more of those anyway, Yeah,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I agree, it's interesting and there was like that brief trend.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I think that probably Wicked would be the first huge,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: huge example of it of famous female villains going back
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: and sort of revising it to humanize and like, like,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Wicked is all about humanizing a female villain, which is
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: and that's been done a number of times since it
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: was like that weird Angelina Jolie Maleficent movie of like,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: you can't just have a hard female bad villain. It's like,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: but here's the here's why she's actually very feminine and
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: gentle and soft in the world made her this way?
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't have a conclusive thought on that.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: But are they Why can't she just be my? Can't
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: she just be mean? I don't know if I don't
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: know if I want there to be an equal number
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: of humanizing male villains or if I just want to
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: just let a villain be bad. I don't know which
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: which side of that spectrum I phone. I think it's
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: more fun to kind of the be bad. Maybe I
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: don't need to know about like when their heart was
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: broken in college? Wicked? Is that how wicked goes. Yeah,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: it's goes like, well, she she had a friendship, and
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: then she had a boyfriend and then and then now
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: she's mean. I do like when a villain is like
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: when they're reasoning for being evil, it's understandable, but you
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: still are like, but you are definitely the villain. But yeah,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: the world did not force you to do this, and
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: you are choosing to do this, like when it's a
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: villain where they're like, oh, I'm doing this because this
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: company wronged me, and I'm actually trying to be the
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: good guy. It's just I have to kill a bunch
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: of people in the process. Then it's like, okay, well,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I know you want to do a good thing, but
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: you are evil, so you're bad. But you're bad. Look
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: at your outfit. You're bad. There's a skull on it.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: And unfortunately we don't get that much backstory for Fasmus,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: so we don't really know. But but the point remains
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: that the movie was like, hey, let's put more female
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: characters in it than just one. So the fact that
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: you do see a female villain at all, and then
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: that even in like the original trilogy, any scenes where
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: there's like just extras running around or like the people
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: in like the rebel bases, they're almost all populated by men,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: and in this movie, I feel like it's still pretty
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: male heavy, but you see more sprinkles of women. There's
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: there's like whenever they go to Mases Cantina where there's
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: a werewolf, I don't know, there's like a wolfman, I
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: don't know. I loved it. But the world is the
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: world of Star Wars is so populated by these insane
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: creatures that you will only see for one second, thinking
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: about the production designer being like, yeah, we'll make a
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: werewolf fan for a background, yeah, and then it'll be
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: on screen first. I love that though, and in twenty
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: years from now there will be a series of young
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: adult novels about that character who's on screen for one second.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Extended universes are fun, yeah, But like in that scene,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: so people are still looking for a B B eight
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: and there's like this evil lady who's got crazy I
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: make up and I love it. Droid is over easy
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: here possibly my favorite look of the whole movie. She yeah,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: she's her name, I don't know she ever one line unreal.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: She's like lounging on the giant, a big fat alien,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: and that gets off to deliver a very hot line,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: and she's got this crazy look. You're just like, wait, what,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: who's that? She's No one in the world looks like her. No,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think other women in the universe are wearing makeup.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: She looks like she's yeah, she's Mark Jacob's mom, Like,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: she's like, what did you Why are you humping this?
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: She's not humping him, but she's lounging on a wet
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: looking alien. So yeah, Basically, my point is just that,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: unlike the Star Wars movies were used to seeing, this
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: galaxy has more than one woman in it, as you
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: might imagine any galaxy would have her to exists, right, Frankly,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: who knows? Maybe so many of these alien species are
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: a sexual and they just reproduced by like cutting off
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: their arm and then suddenly as a new person, or
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: the C three po theory of printing out a binary
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: receipt and then just feeding it to someone. I don't know. Well,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: because most of the main characters we see in these
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Star Wars movies are humans who presumably procreate in a
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: sexual way. Yeah, you would think there'll be more women around.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I mean you'd think because they're so hot, right right,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: they're procreators for sure. Yeah. Again, you know, it's not
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: like a perfect split of men and women that you
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: see on screen, but it does better than the original trilogy. Certainly,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: this b B eight definitively a boy. Big question I
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: had just b B eight identifies female. This movie is
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: a masterpiece. Who passes the has four million times? We'd
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: probably say he at some point. I'm just gonna I
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: think they do use he pronouns, but I'm not sure.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: But what if they're wrong and B B eight isn't
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: able to tell. What if they're miss gendering b B
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: A Oh, and she's just too nice to say anything.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, what if in the next one, whenever
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: the next this one comes out, we find out the
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: baby has been being miss gender And that's a major
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: plot point when you're subtle. Are you looking it up?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: I actually I liked it up. In the Star Wars wiki,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Wookie Pidia says gender masculine programming. That does that doesn't
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: answer the question why would they? Why why would masculine
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: vibe does not? Does that mean that she can be
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: reprogrammed to have feminine programming? But Why would there need
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: to be feminine or masculine programming for a droid? Why
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: would be What about B B A does WOOKI PDA
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: think reads masculine? A lot of bias going on here.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's like when you set up like
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: your Google Home and it's like what kind of voice
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: do you want? Or like Siri when it's like you
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: want a man voice or you want a woman's voice? Yeah,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: who do you want? On you? What to do? I
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: like the theory that B B A is a queer icon. Yeah,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: I think it's for sure queer. I want to meet
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: B B It's boyfriend, yeah, or girlfriend, We don't know.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's very private, very private, yeah, bb it is
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: giving a lot of information, but not like sharing. You know. Well,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: maybe it's information they because I'm going to use that
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: they pronounced ray, will be like where are you from?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: And they will say classified. That's their right classified. Yeah. Anyway,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: I think that that was a big That was a
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: big when we talked about the Becktel test, like this
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: movie could pass the Becktel test maybe fifty times. If
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: B B A identifies we don't know, we don't know,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: we don't know, and you know what it's not our
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: business to ask. Yeah, that's true. They'll tell us when
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: they're ready, that's true. So I think the last queer.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: The last thing I want to say about this movie
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: is great that we get a female protagonist who's driving
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: this story, very competent, very good at what she does.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: We're never if she is captured, it's because she's the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: one who has the information that's needed, not because she's
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: going to be used as bait or something like that.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Of the other female characters we see not minding them
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: get that much screen time, Like Leia doesn't get a
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: ton and it's usually her talking to fucking Han Solo
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: and he's all like, well, that's all like fan service though, right, Yeah,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: for the most yeah, I mean she's like kind of
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: delivering some exhiposition and stuff like that. Um, so she
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: is not a hugely active character in this story, but
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: that's kind that she's there and in charge of the
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: whole resistance, right it is. I mean it also, it's
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: a definite choice, and this could go into like behind
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: the scenes stuff that I would not be aware of,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: but it was a definite choice to make Han Solo
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: the main character to bring back versus you know, Han
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: Solo and Lea both take a prominent role in this movie,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: but Han Solo we see a lot more. He does
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: a lot more, and that felt like a choice. And
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that was like a story choice
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: or just like a Carrie Fisher wasn't feeling it choice.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like it was partially because
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: in the original series he's so much more active and
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: she is like a royalty and like a leader. So
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: they're probably just like, what are the parallels of that?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: What if he's still active and she's like leading the
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: resistance now? But also well, his reveal in the Force
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: awakens whenever they're like, I don't remember this character here.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: He is popping out into this wedding kaying is like
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: this big, like you said, like a big exciting moment.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Everyone's clapping in the theater. Her reveal, which happens a
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: few scenes later, gets like immediately interrupted because C three
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: pos like, hey it's me, you remember me, here's my
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: red arm. So I feel like she doesn't even get
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: like that. She gets like a disservice by like her reveal,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: which isn't very exciting because she's just sort of like
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: slowly walking out into the grass from a ship and
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: then gets immediately interrupted. So I hadn't thought about that.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: It was still really exciting to see her, but true,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: it's also like on the heels of his introduction, at
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: which point you're like, oh, yeah, she'll probably be back
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: to right Yeah. Um, does anyone have any final thoughts
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: about the Force awakens Bechtel wise? Uh, the Mas Kanada
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: scene is like entirely two women talking, although I guess
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: they do sort of turn it into a conversation about
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Luke at one point, But okay, yeah, do you have
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: how much do you have it passing? Because I had
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: it passing from what I knows at least two times
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: between Ray and Mas that scene where she's afraid because
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: lightsaber and the force. It's about Han and Luke up
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: until a point, and then it passes. It passes in
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: like the second half of that conversation. I am prepared
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: to argue that pretty much the whole conversation passes, and
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: although both mentioned my name, but their conversation is not
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: really about them. So it's basically Ray has her whole
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: like force vision whenever she touches Luke's lightsaber, and then
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: she freaks out, and she's like, okay, well of conpecual manature.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: And then massa that lightsabers Luke's and his father's before him.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Now it calls to you. So those people get mentioned,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: but that's still not what the conversation is about. It's
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: about the force calling to her and the lightsaber itself
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: and not really. And then she's like, I have to
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: get back to Jack. Who and she says Han told me,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: but then he doesn't. Again, it's not about Han. They're
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: not talking about any other movie, any other franchise though
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: that wouldn't fly. I don't think, I mean and and
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: And that's not to say this conversation doesn't pass the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: actual test, because it does, but it doesn't for a while.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I think if we're naming
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: male characters by name and saying literally the word fathers,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: we're talking about men. We are Here's a logistical question.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Would a conversation pass the Bechdel test if it was
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: like two women talking about what they did that day
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: and then they were like, and then I drove Dave's
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: car to blah blah blah. The way we have interred
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: and there's like a bunch of permutations, but we have
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: it just being two lines of dialogue exchanged between women
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: where a man isn't mentioned at all. So this conversation
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: does pass because there are multiple times where two lines
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: of dialogue or exchanged without mentioning a man. I don't know,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like saying Han and Luke and Father's is
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: not passing the battle nest see. I don't know, I
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: feel like I mean, I don't know if we've talked
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: about this before, but the context of the conversation is
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: not about those characters. They get mentioned, but they're not
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: specifically talking about Luke and Luke's ship in life and
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: all that stuff, nor are they talking about Han. They
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: get mentioned, but it's almost in passing, right. The rest
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: of the conversation definitely passes without any men being mentioned,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: because Ray's like, I gotta get back to Jack who
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: And She's just like, dear child, I see it in
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: your eyes. You already know the truth. Remember, whoever you're
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: waiting for is not They're not coming back. The belonging
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: you seek is not behind you, it's ahead of you.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: You know. I know the forest did it and then
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: raised like I've never She's like taking my favorite, my
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: favorite line that I could deeply relate to. I'm never
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: touching that thing again. I don't want any part of
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: this exits, just like we've all been there. Yeah. Again,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: the conversation is more about her figuring out if this
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: forcing is something that she wants to pursue. And wild
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: men do get mentioned, That's not really what their conversation
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: is about. I'm happy to disagree on it for for me,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: mentioning men doesn't pass. But I understand what you're saying.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, well, well discoorse discourse alert. Did you said
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: there were it passes at two moments? What was the other? Uh?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: There was like one exchange when they're in the same
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: scene with Han and Finn where they exchange literally two lines,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: like it's two lines what fight the only fight and
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: they are speaking to each other directly. That's Leah and Leah,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: no mas and okay, okay, So that those were the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: two between those characters that I noticed, and I think
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I missed that one. But speaking of Ray and Leah,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: they do interact, but their interactions however, passed the back
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: to tests because of the first time Leah and Ray
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: just hug right after Han Solo dies and they don't do,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: not exchange any words. And then at the end of
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: the movie, whenever Ray is about to go off and
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: find Luke Skywalker, Leia says, may the Force be with you.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Ray just sort of looks at her and nods and
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: then turns around. So I know an opportunity was so
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: it was right there. Those moments are so painful. It's like,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: say anything. It's like the crazy not to bring it
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: back to Spider Man, to my favorite movie, but like
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: that scene where it's so good Alfa Melina shines, but
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: there that scene was like Aunt May and Mary Jane
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: are in the same scene the whole time, and they're
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: saying vague stuff but they're not saying it to each other.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Or there's a scene where un May is like, all right,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: go make some food, which is already like Luf and
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: then Chris and does nods and then slowly backs out
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: of this scene without saying anything. You're just like why
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: it could have frustrating. Indeed, Yeah, this scene wasn't that bad.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: I do wish there were more, because there's opportunities for
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: because there are more women now in this movie, for
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: more women to interact. But it does happen. So seldom
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: in this movie, Like it would be so easy for
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Lay to kind of take ray On as a like
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to mentor you and like I've been there before,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: like you know, I mean, it's like just any significant
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: interaction where I wouldn't even I mean, I'm sure from
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: a Star Wars perspective, this would be an issue. But
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: even if like Leia didn't like ray Or like took
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: issue with her in some way, that could be something
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: to talk about where it's like not every time two
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: female characters are on screen together. They don't have to
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: be supporting each other. They don't have to be like
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: we're allies and we're gonna take them down. You know
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: where I love two female characters in conflict, just like
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: male characters and conflict have been every movie ever uptil recently.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: But it's yeah, but they just don't get to do
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: there's no interaction really, but hey, what are you gonna do?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: It's a movie, but that's no, that's the point of
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: the show, the show. What are you gonna do? Cutting
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: Star Wars breaks, they get no brakes, can't change the industry. Well,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: and that'll be a rap on. My dream is for
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: everyone to know about this podcast, including like all the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: big wigs in Hollywood, and then for them to be like,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: for sure they're gonna know about us, and then they're
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: going to be like, wow, we've got to change this
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: movie because the way it is now, the Bechtel cast
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: would tear it apart. We'll take them down. I mean,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: I feel like the Bechtel test is famous enough that
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: there's really no excuse. It's true. Just have two women
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: in a diner say, get me more more coffee. Marge,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: shut thing, Liz did it high five point. It's very
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: easy to do. It takes but not even I mean,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: most of what we talk about is how active the
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: female characters are in the story, how important they are
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: to the story, all that stuff like, I mean, you
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: should be better than that, but I'm just like better
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: than just the exchange. But it seems like a very
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: easy thing for totally. Yeah, most movies still don't bother anyway. Hey,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: let's write the movie on our nipple scale. Okay, so
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: we have a scale of zero to five nipples on
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: which we rate the movie's portrayal of women and how
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: good or bad it does. I'm going to give it three.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: I think I was going over three Yeah, cool, cool, cool, Yeah,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: three nipples because it does much better than the previous
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Star Wars movies. Wow, we now have a female protagonist
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: in this one. She has a little queer friend in
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: b B eight and it's and it's great. And more
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: people of color in this movie than we see in
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Star Wars movies, which have been very historically white. Infinitely,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. So yeah, three nipples. We've got a
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: female character who's leading the story. She's the main character.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: She's doing a bunch of stuff. She's very good at
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: her job, and she is never damseled or objectified or
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: anything like that. But because there are still not as
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: many female characters as there could be or should be,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: it doesn't get a higher scored than three nipples. I'm
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: going to give my nipples. It's gonna be. This is hard.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: There's so many hot people I want to give nipple,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: you give you give away even Yeah, I know. So
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Kleen has three nipples today, who is she going to
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: give them to? Okay, I'm going to give one to
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Finn cool, Yeah, hot hot nipple one two Ray, and
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give the third nipple too a porg
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: who we don't see in this movie, the Invisible Pork,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: the Invisible porg that sounds like a really dystopian novel,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: The Invisible pork. You might see one like fluttering around
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: in the background on the Jedi planet that Luke is
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: on at the very end. Who hard to say. By
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: the time they released, like the trilogy, Box said, there
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: will be like cg porks added to every sting exactly.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: So I'm yeah, this is for the poor that will
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: retroactively be put into the force awakens. One of my
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: nipples goes to that pork. What's a pork? A pork
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: is a imagine if a rodent were a bird. Okay,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: I like that's a pork. I think I like it? Right?
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Is that a pretty good chicken meets a penguin? But
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I like you, But they don't. But they can fly.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: But their faces I can't tell whoa I love the pork,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: but they don't have they don't have beaks or bird faces.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: They have like kind of face kind of handstry faces. Yeah,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: like over a little rabbit face sort of thing anywhere.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: They're cute and I love porks. Okay, I'm on board
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: for porks. I'm gonna give it three nipples as well
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: as an objective don't give a funk about Star Wars
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: party Like Ray is awesome, there's no I mean, she's
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: the best there in. This world is still not realistically
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: populated with women in order for any universe to subsist
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: so in that way, and it's just frustrating to see
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: where in the original trilogy, as I understand it right
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: because because I do not know, have not seen it,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Princess Leiah is the female character where we're given a
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: lot of tertiary female characters in this series in addition
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: to our female protagonists, but they're still not given I
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: don't know they're for me, they're not doing enough, and
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: they're also the main thing is like they're not talking
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: to each other. And there's at least thirty to fifty
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: tiny scenes in this movie where men are talking to
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: each other. It's it should be that hard to get
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: two women in the same scene. Always frustrating. Three nippies
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: giving one to a little b B eight Uh, And
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't know what the story is there.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: I look forward to the confessional to the medium dot
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: com pie is coming out from B B eight. I
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: can't wait for the b bight spin off movie written
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: entirely in deep give us the twenty two minute B
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: eight short before the movies. These fuck Frozen and that's
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: stupid ass all off short. Anyway, I have seen the
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: movie before. I have never seen a movie. I was like,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: can I just say that there is worse seeing Lady Bird?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: And I didn't like it? Why is everyone like Lady
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: Birds so much? It's really good. She's a whiner. She's
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: going to calm down a lot of people. Wine. All right,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that there is one other notable female
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: character in the original trilogy who I think appears for
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: the first time in Empire Strikes Back. Her name is
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Mom Mathma, but she has like two lines of dialogue
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: and then you pretty much to see her again. I
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: think she's in the Rogue one too. Yeah, Rugue one
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: Tokyo drift, rug one ruin. And I'll give my second
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: nippy to Daniel Craig because I didn't know he needed one.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: That was fun, And then I'll give my my final
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: nipple to Mars great, wonderful cool. I'm also gonna give
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: it three nips, and I'm giving one nipple to Ray
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: because she she does so much in this movie, and
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like as much as I appreciated it all
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: three times that I've seen it, like, I feel like
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: I'm discussing it now. I'm just like, yeah, holy sh it.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: They did a great job with her. And then those
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: rain two nips are going to b B eight excellent,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: BB it's got three nips. Well, what are they going
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: to do? They need them? We don't know. It's going
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: to storm in his little compartment that Oh yeah, he's
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: got a lighter in there, he's got a flash drive.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Hold her gendering b im sorry they day to day. Well,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: if Poe says he, I feel like it's safe for
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: us to say he, although a pole is an ally
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: to all, so I guess. I guess if Poe says he,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: then they seemed pretty close, and B B A would
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: not have been so torn up at the thought of
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: no more Poe if Poe had been constantly miss John
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: constantly missed gendering him so we might have to let
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: that drap. BB eight possibly not a feminist icon but
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: still a queer. Also could be trans mail robot. We
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: don't know. There's so many stories untold in regards to BB,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: so I'll do you have something you want to say?
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: He is male designing process. They were planning on female
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: changed Who gave that note? Was it? J? J abrams
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: Worth saying that this movie was written and directed? Oh yeah,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: J J abrams I think not feminist icon Sure, Why
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: couldn't a woman help write this? Hey? This was our
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: The Force Awakens episode? I like this. This Star Wars
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: looks fun. It is. You should watch the new one.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: I think you'd like it. Yeah, I don't have to.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, I can just skip the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: old ones. Right. If I enjoyed this one, I'll enjoy
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: the next. I'm gonna be honest, Yes, Yeah, You're going
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: to get a lot of angry tweets about that, but
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say, yeah, if you enjoyed this one,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: just keep going forward, all right. Yeah, I don't think
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: you need to go back and rewatch. All right, I'll
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: se past in the past in it and the old
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: ones now, but the one for okay, No, I won't
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: get more screen time for b A. There's just a
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: lot of porks. I'll say that, a lot of I
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: want to get it. I want to get a B
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: B eight lunchbox that was what I was thinking, and
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, I know this is what the movie
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: wants me to be thinking, is how can I get
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: merchandise with This is a tiny thing on it, but
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: I want one. I saw a child with a B
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: B eight suitcase and I was like, good, um, dummy,
• 1:18:52
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• 1:18:54
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• 1:18:57
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