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Italy Nations League Recap - Ep. 244 Ft. Nick Dianni from Kicks and Picks · The Calcio Guys

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Salusta. It's usually how I start our podcast at couch,
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: you guys, Johnny Nicholas, who usually started doing talking about
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: the city.
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: You're talking about Napoli.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Johnny's living the life. He's got Napoli first place
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: in cityauh Italy, first place in this all Important Nations league.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: When you talk to Johnny, you're really salutatting the coup
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: of Lista. But couch, you guys follow us on Instagram, Twitter, uh, Facebook,
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: all your YouTube, all your social media's. But Johnny, how's
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: it going?
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: Not bad?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like you're saying all these these wonderful things,
• 0:40
  Speaker 3: but the Bruins are not performing super well in the Pats.
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: Just absolutely sucks. But hey, at least Drake May is
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: looking good, so it's.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: Nice to see he actually had an MRI. I got
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: a notification that he had an MRI on his knee today,
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: So usually that's not a good sign. You don't. You
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: don't go get an MRI I for fun talking about it?
• 1:00
  Speaker 4: Of course you do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have one scheduled tomorrow, just to see like
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: the insides.
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I like the city insides.
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I don't fully know, like I know
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: you always hear these these things MRI this, MRI that.
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: But I guess an MRI is similar to like an
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: X ray scan, except for your muscles. I don't know, Jenny,
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: are you.
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  Speaker 3: I believe so I think it's I mean, actually, I
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  Speaker 3: mean to take a guess.
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna look it up. I think it's muscle radioact
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: radiology imagery. Let's see MRI definition. Let's see if I
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: was right. Magnetic resonance imaging. Okay, so I got one letter.
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: Right, Hey, it's good enough. It's good enough. But yeah,
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: that's the other type of football. But Caucho Uhrano is
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: in Italy for the second time this year, so he
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: was actually at the game Thursday, Italy versus Belgium. When
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: he comes back, we'll talk about weren't you No, I
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: just I just I just forgot how to talk anyways. Sure,
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: but yeah, when he comes back, we'll talk to him
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: all about it. It's pretty cool. He's he's uh he's
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  Speaker 1: the first one of us to actually see in Italy
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  Speaker 1: game live. That's definitely something i've you know, that's on
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  Speaker 1: my bucket list, right, and I'm sure it is on
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  Speaker 1: your yours too. To actually say Italy play live, especially
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  Speaker 1: a competitive game.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, I honestly would love to see it.
• 2:28
  Speaker 3: Just I mean, I've I've been lucky to see a
• 2:32
  Speaker 3: lot of like amazing sporting events in my life. Actually,
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: the other day, what popped into my memories was, like
• 2:38
  Speaker 3: not memories like I like on Facebook whatever, like in
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  Speaker 3: my actual head was we went to go watch the
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: CONCA CAF Champions League Final in twenty fifteen, when when
• 2:46
  Speaker 3: the impact were there, I mean, like, how many people,
• 2:49
  Speaker 3: even though they lost, It's like how many people can
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  Speaker 3: say they were at a Champions League final.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's concor CAF B. Either way, it's still a.
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  Speaker 3: Champions League final you could say they were at and
• 2:57
  Speaker 3: it was in Montreal at the Olympic Stadium, legendary stadium
• 3:00
  Speaker 3: itself too so but.
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  Speaker 2: Overall, you know, it would be very wonderful to.
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  Speaker 3: See uh play at any stadium or venue. Uh you know,
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  Speaker 3: i'mat like a degenerate waving my flag around, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just chanting along.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, one day, yeah, that that game.
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: Sixty one thousand people actually were at that game, Johnny
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  Speaker 1: m It was packed, Like when what was his name?
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: Romero Andres Romero when he scored the first goal for
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: the Impact eight minutes in. I just remember the stadium
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: felt like it was shaking, like I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: gonna break.
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: Wait, we thought we thought it was going to collapse
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: on us.
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like that was. That was a crazy experience. Honestly,
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: that was and you know what, I don't think in
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: the moment, I realized just how how big that is,
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, Champions League final to winness that Obviously
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  Speaker 1: it sucked at the end that you know, uh, Clube
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  Speaker 1: America one and if I'm not mistake, and was was
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: Chucky listen, don't on that team?
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah Chucky? And he actually scored in that game.
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: Too, That's what I'm trying to look it up.
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Trucky was was in that game?
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: Must be Apparently it's a false memory because he's not.
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: He's not on the game sheet here at Wikipedia.
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: Really I feel like he was.
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  Speaker 1: I'm convinced he was on that team. Yeah, same, this
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  Speaker 1: is this is this is this.
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  Speaker 2: A Mandela effect that.
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  Speaker 1: He played for Patrucca. He didn't play for Club America
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  Speaker 1: and that Patruca is another team that the Impact played
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: in that that Champions League runk run. So I think
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  Speaker 1: I think that's where we're getting confused.
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  Speaker 2: Probably that just seems a bit weird. But anyways, why
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  Speaker 2: do I feel like as if he was anyways whatever?
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  Speaker 1: Not important, Not important, me and Johnny reminiscing about old
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  Speaker 1: soccer games. Uh, but yeah, Italy Belgium to to It
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  Speaker 1: was a game that started off super well for the Azuti,
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  Speaker 1: in which you know, it feels like all the time
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  Speaker 1: the Ajuti get scored on first in the opening opening minute,
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  Speaker 1: but this time was the other way around it. Italy
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  Speaker 1: scored Cambiaso and then rete Gie twenty fourth minute. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have the chance to watch the game. I
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: was at the office, so I didn't see it. I
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: saw the highlights, saw the reaction on Twitter. It you know,
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  Speaker 1: based on what people are saying on Twitter, it seemed
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: like they were, you know, twenty fifteen Barcelona out there
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: in the first first half, basing until the red card.
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's good to hear. It seems like
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: that's the style Spilett. He wants to play more, just attacking.
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: Even I think he was on the first goal if
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: you kind of see the build up play just crazy passing.
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: I forgot if it was his first or second goal.
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: That DeMarco was involved in as well, so you know
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: that's what you want to see. And it really felt
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: like all things were going super well for the AZUITI
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  Speaker 1: and then uh pel Greeney with the red card. Johnny
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: than not mistaken. It was a second yellow, right.
• 6:05
  Speaker 3: No, so it was it was a yellow that so
• 6:08
  Speaker 3: just for contacts in case if anybody needs I also
• 6:11
  Speaker 3: was I was away for the weekend.
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: I was in Nagara Falls working a really big yugi event.
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  Speaker 3: So fortunately I have to go based off also what
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  Speaker 3: interactions were on Twitter.
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: Looked up highlights like up extended highlights and so if
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: I miss a little detail, apologize in events.
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  Speaker 3: But it was actually a yellow that was turned into
• 6:29
  Speaker 3: a red after var review because you went into the tackle.
• 6:33
  Speaker 3: They felt like as if he went from behind, I
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: did not get any ball at all, clipped the player behind,
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: and they felt that it was enough studs up for
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  Speaker 3: it to be a red card, like a straight red.
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I did see the video on it. It
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: seemed like useless tackle, like it just seemed like a
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: challenge you didn't need to do. And it doesn't seem
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: like Paul Greeni is this type of player a Johnny
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: Like how many reds as he got to Roma.
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: Not many.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, it's just really it's it's really, it was really
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  Speaker 3: a surprise when I saw the pelage he got a
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  Speaker 3: red card.
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  Speaker 2: It's not in his nature.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was just an accidental thing, like he
• 7:08
  Speaker 3: was just it was just a dumb decision.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like no players perfect.
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  Speaker 3: Every player is prone to making mistakes once in a while,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that was just him with his one
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  Speaker 3: bone headed moment. I don't think the players fault him
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  Speaker 3: for that. I think they know that it's not him
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  Speaker 3: trying to throw the game. We're trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like sabotage the team. I think he just made a
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  Speaker 3: very big error and that's just like.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's just it happens. You can't you can't
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  Speaker 2: control that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you could control it, but I mean like
• 7:33
  Speaker 3: it's you understand what I mean, Like it's.
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  Speaker 1: Just yeah, yeah, of course. And Belgium responded right away.
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: The coop here the very nice goal too, by the way, yeah,
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: forty second minute and then Leandro throstar in the sixty first,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, goals from you know, I guess you
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: could say different players and what are're used to with
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: Belgium Lukaku. Did he he didn't play? Was was he
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: even called up for Jenny?
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  Speaker 4: Uh? No, he refused.
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  Speaker 3: Because he refused because he's been wanting to get info
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  Speaker 3: monopoly and he uh, he refused to call up to
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  Speaker 3: uh to represent Belgium this Nations League match tie because
• 8:21
  Speaker 3: he wants to get more in shape of the club.
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: It maybe he was.
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  Speaker 1: Because he didn't want to play against Italy.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a bit too, a bit of a
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  Speaker 3: bit of the reason too, but uh, because he wants
• 8:33
  Speaker 3: to stat pad against smaller teams. But but in all
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  Speaker 3: seriousness though, it's like the guy would do anything for Conte.
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  Speaker 1: It seems so.
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  Speaker 2: I think him not risking any injury is also one
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  Speaker 2: of those ways of showing.
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  Speaker 1: That interesting interesting and uh yeah, so you know, we
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: lost that storyline. But regardless, it's unfortunate. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in Belgium to to and you know what it's interest
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  Speaker 1: because I saw on uh, you know, Belgium's social media,
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  Speaker 1: their official accounts on Twitter, they're happy with the draw,
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: you know. They they called it, you know, on YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: the video that they posted for the highlights, they said,
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: you know, a gladiator fight in Rome, gladiator gladiator draw
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  Speaker 1: in Rome.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, for them, they're they're happy with the draw.
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: For Italy it's two points lost, right, And I know
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: that if you look at the table, uh, now there
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: there are six six points ahead of Belgium. That's also
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: because Belgium lost to France on Monday, but at the
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: time the margin was small. There were only three points
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: ahead of Belgium. You know, a win would have done them,
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: would have done them well, right in terms of winning
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  Speaker 1: this group, which is still tight. Italy had ten points
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  Speaker 1: now France and nine. But you know, at the end
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: of the day, it's still it's a it's a lesson,
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  Speaker 1: right Jenny, especially for this team. That that's I guess
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that that. You know, it's a young
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: team for Italy, but it's a team that's still growing together, right.
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: It's also a team that's like they're trying to find
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: a new core or trying to establish a new core.
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: Ever since you know Euro twenty twenty one, right or
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty you can call it like this was like
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: they had a poor show, like they had you know,
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: Mancini refused to adapt to a new system and formation.
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: Spiletti tried to fit his formation with this team and
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: you know, like try to put like round pieces in
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: square holes and whatnot, and it just didn't work out
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: and it was a disaster at this euro So he
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: it's a team that's like hasn't had a chance to
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: express themselves in roles that they know that they're good at,
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: that they're good in, you know, and.
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's starting to take shape.
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: I think Spoletti is letting go a bit of what
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: he knows and you know, letting go and try seeing
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: the process of you know, just applying a new a
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: new formation or trying out new things like.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: You know, like a like a three five one.
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: One is is something that I've never seen before.
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: We talked about it last time.
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: It was in September, I think it was when the
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: last played in the Nations League, you know, and it's
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: something that we brought up like spelectly just going with
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: something new.
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: I've like, I'm still surprised by that formation.
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever seen a three five one
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: in my life used often, you know, like it reminds
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: with the Captain natural days when I was a kid.
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's good though, because it's been paying
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: off offensively, they've been having fantastic output. They're gaining results
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: against teams that I don't like. They beat France, you know,
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: like it's it that was like and it was like, okay,
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: you could say it wasn't France A, but it wasn't
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: France CE either. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: it's it's it's a roster that's starting to make because uh,
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: half faith again, you know. And I think one of
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: those key players that I brought it up on Twitter
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: before has to be Federico Demaco. I think, uh, as
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: of late and within the Sole Nations League tournament so
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: far quote unquote tournament, you know, because there's still six
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: games playing the group stage, I think he's been the
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: most crucial player for this roster.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you think about that, Nick.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, also Finale Tonale coming back,
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: I feel like has huge, huge in the midfield. You know,
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: we've talked about him on the show.
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously what he did, what he did was wrong.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: He served his suspension, he's back in Italy. It sucks
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: that this game obviously during the Euros that he missed
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: the Euros, but hey, it's part of the punishment. You
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: you do the crime, you serve the time, right, but uh,
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: you know, he comes back into this team and it
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: just feels like the midfield as a whole is just, uh,
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: you don't rejuvenated. And this is a midfield that I
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: didn't have Brella uh this time or last international break either.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: I forget if he was called up or if he
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: was still heard at the time a month ago. But
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: you know against Belgium started for Tessi, Ricci and Tonale
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: and even a guy like Ricci, he's having a fantastic
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: starts this season. He's having an impact. For Tessi's having
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: an impact, and for Teszi is such a I want
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: to call it strange player, but he's in such a
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: weird position where he doesn't get the playing time with
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: Inter and then he comes to to Italy and he
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: he's a fantastic player. He scores a lot of goals.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: I think he has like four goals already under Spiletti
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: and he's he's just one of those key players and
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: it would help if he got more playing time with Inter,
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: but maybe it's helped that he's not getting playing time
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: because then he comes to Italy and he's and he's
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: well arrested. But you know, I was listening to the
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: broadcast Monday against Israel and the commentators like, you know,
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: looking at this, look at this midfield, where does Burrella
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: fit in? Does he is he starter? Right way? I
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: think he is?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: It's a nice luxury to have, especially if you could,
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: you know, bring a guy like Ricci or for Tessie
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: off the bench.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like it is.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: It is a luxury, right, But it would be extremely
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: foolish to not have him on the on the starting
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: start part of the starting what five whatever you want
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  Speaker 3: to consider the three however it may, he may look
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: whatever it may shape or look out out to be,
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: but you it'd be foolish and not have a bad
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: at love.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: But yes, it's it's a nice conversation to have that. Uh,
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: you know, it's funny.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: Actually the other day I was discussing one of my students.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: Uh we're talking about because there's a student that that
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: I have in one of the French schools that he's
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: half French half Italian, and uh, he was telling me
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: how like he was talking about, oh, we're so good,
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, you know, honestly speaking, we have
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: arguably one of the best midfields in Europe right now.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: You know, it's the fact that we can bring punches
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: off the bench. It's it's, it's it. It is great
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: to have because game games are one and lost in
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: the midfield and if you want to be a good team,
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: you need to have a very strong midfield and then
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: you work from the backup. So the fact that we
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: have this type of problem is a good problem.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: I still think too like bet Elali are like pillars.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: They're definitely like like those are those are the pillars
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: that you build from. Those are the two midfielders that
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: you're can have to always start off with when you
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: build this midfielder at for Italy, unless you want to
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: rest them up because it's a game that doesn't mean anything.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Sure, but the first two you look at is always
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: going to be about.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: And talking about bringing power off the bench. There's perfect
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: time to.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Look at the most powerful over here.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Perfect timing.
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  Speaker 4: Nick friend, guys, thank you as always for having me.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: How's it going back to back pod saying how was
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: your pod?
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: It was? It was all right, man. We uh gave
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: coach a little bit of the business there with Roma
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: coming into the big weekend ahead, so let's see what happens.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you're you're pretty much replacing Adra all this week.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: He's in Italy. You got to go see the Belgium game,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: and you know what, we were just talking about that.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: But let's start with you, Nick Flake, what did you
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: make of that Belgium the game? And then you know,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: another thing we're talking about is the formation and specifically
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: the midfield. Just you know, what do you make of
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: the midfield? And simply but I mean, how how good
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: are they at this point?
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, apologies if I'm going to repeat anything you guys
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: already spoke about. But if I do, that means I
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: you know, I know what I'm talking about because you
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: guys have already brought it up. So hold your opinions
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: in regard.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I learned from you. We learned from you.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Nick Listen, I think you have to be happy with
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: the result. Considering I'm no Pelogvani fan before this game,
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I'm certainly less of a fan after this game. I
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: think it's unfortunate because he's a guy that really does
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: have a lot of talent. He just hasn't been able
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: to put it all together, whether that be the injury team,
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: switching new coaches, whatever the situation is, He's had his
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: chances and he just doesn't look that he's ever going
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: to figure it out. So unfortunate that happened, and it
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: really skewed the game and the outcome. I think once
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: it went down, the best we were hoping for was
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: to get a point out of that game, and I
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: think we did a decent enough job holding on the
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: last fifteen to twenty minutes especially, But I was gonna say,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: I came in and I'm thinking to myself, what is
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: this three five one one type formation? Why can't we
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: have two strikers in at the same time. You know
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: we're loading the midfield, but is it really just kind
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: of five defenders. Didn't quite know what to make of it.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: But for two games in a row, and I know
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: we'll get to the next game, it seems like it's
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: kind of worked. So I have to swallow my pride
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: a little bit there and say something is going right.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: We've done very well in the Nations League to this point.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I think that Taggy is the guy up front. I mean,
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: I feel like we were all kind of in agreement.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: We've been saying that as a group kind of since
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: he came into the fold. He just brings an awful
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: lot to the table that our other strikers in recent history,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: don't you know. He makes good movements with good instincts,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: He holds up the ball, he's unselfish, and at the
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: end of the day, he's putting the ball in the
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: back of the net. So I think you'd like to
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: see that. But midfield, I think we kind of have
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: a luxury on our hands. I think it's a little
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: bit less in quality than our midfields of the past,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: but the depth seems to be much bigger. I think
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: we can interchange three four guys and you're not seeing
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: a steep, steep drop off, and that's that's a great
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: problem to have. I mean, you look at Ratzi. This
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: guy isn't even starting on his own team, but he
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: comes in and he looks like the best midfielder in
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: the world right when he plays for Atally, So that's
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: great to see. I think ICHI's a guy I like
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: a lot. I don't want to compare him to Banila
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: because that's not fair, but I think he reminds me
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: of Banela and this in the way that He does
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: a lot of things right. I don't think he excels
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: at any given thing, but he's everywhere. He's good with
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: the ball, he recovers the ball well, he can make
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: the simple plays without overthinking it. So I think it
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: was a good showing for him and tonality. I mean,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: that's the guy we're going to need to depend on, right.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: I think he's just the one with the most class.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Unfortunate that he missed the whole year, but he seems
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: to be growing into the player we all thought he
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: could be. So definitely liked what I saw, and like
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: I said, I think the outcome of the game was
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: definitely skewed by that red card.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Just for added context, the three five one one was
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: the formation that we used to beat France three to
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: one as well. So it's a formation that's just it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: It's just I know, it's weird, trust me.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I aired my opinion on it too, Like it's something
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I've I've never seen in my life, but it's working.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: It's just why fix it? Why try to fix a
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: not broken clock?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I guess for sure.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And you know what, talking about players that are having
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: an impact, another guy that I'm like, you know, in
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: this Italy set up is Cambiaso, and obviously he's a player.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I get to watch him every week with Italy, and
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's better with the Azuiti. Then sorry,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: you get to watch him every week with you. I
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: feel like he's better with the Azuiti than with Juve.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And you know, I pretty much said the same thing
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: with with Fretezi as well, Nick, which is interesting and
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: for me, even the luxury of those two winbacks Cambiaso
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and and dey Marco, but it doesn't feel like there's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of death there. So if one guy goes down,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: we're kind of screwed. But you know, let's say, hypathetically,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: thanks big tournament that they're in. Uh, if those guys
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: are healthy and hot, you know, you just have to
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: roll them. But that's a long way away.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: And I mean, could you theoretically push a the Lorenzo
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: up a little bit further or Kogi play in a
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: position like that? Maybe, But I mean, well, based on
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: what I've seen, campias and DeMarco or like have to
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: be starters if you're playing this formation.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly With Italy Israel that was on Monday,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a lot easier game obviously for the Ajudi right to
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Gee open the scoring in the forty first minute. De
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Lorenzo got two goals, and you know he's he's the
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: funniest player out there because you know, he makes one mistake.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Twitter's all over him. He's the worst player that's ever
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: played the sport in the history of mankind. And then
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: he scores two goals and you know he's the next
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: He's the next Maldini a wing back. I don't know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: but you know what, he's an interesting player.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I think into the fans of the teams that shipped
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: on him when he doesn't when pay attention to the
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: fans of the team, then you'll get your answer as
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: to white Twitter.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Scooby Doo followed those clues.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I like it, but but yeah, you know what, Like,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I know, he's a valuable piece in the in the team, but.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: But he is prone to being being bad sometimes. So yeah,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: even for Napoly at the start of the season. Sorry
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: for interjecting, it's just because like not started the season,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: De Lorenzo for Napoly was very off as well, and
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: it was a trend act that was continuing.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: From the poor display at the Euros.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I think the Euros kind of affect him a bit psychologically,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: you know, uh, kind of affected his confidence, especially being
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: exposed by I mean Lamal.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: You know, like, no, it wasn't Lamal, it was uh
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: who else was on Williams. It was Nico Williams.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: You know, if it's not one end, it's the other,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just more like
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: nobody who you would have put there. Nico Williams had
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: expose him. So I think I think it did affect
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: him a bit, you know. So, but now that he's
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: starting to find a rhythm and monopoly and in some confidence.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: It's also moving into the national team, you know, also
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: being captain for that game. You know, Splity has a
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: lot of faith in him, as he did when they
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: wanted to school Detto together, so it helps.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: It helps.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: He did, he did have a poor form and a
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: poor run recently, but he knows it. I think he's
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: gonna grow from it. And also the summer psychological it
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: was also wasn't also great because there was also conflict
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: with the fans of Napoly itself, with the whole rumors
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: to uve a thing, and he apologized for that afterwards
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: because he's like he was just trying to get using
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: it as a negotiation tactic and it was wrong. I
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: think he's going through something, but eventually he'll come out
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: of it. But trust me, it wasn't just it wasn't
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: just the.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Not like even Monopoly. He wasn't in his strongest format
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: to start. But now he's getting there. So it's good
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: to see.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, let's talk about the game on Monday. Like
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I said, yeah, for one, as I say, de Lorenzo,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: sorry guys, but yeah, deal, Rerenzo was two goals and
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: it's fantasy. He did allow a goal and it was
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: a weird goal off the corner, directly off the corner.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: It was a nice goal, it was, Yeah, it was.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: But look like Vicario was pushed to uh. I'm a
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: bit surprised they didn't get called back from bar like
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the Ford or you know, the Israel player was right
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: in front of Vicario, you know, borderline. I guess you
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: could see the NHL that's goal interference.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: So I guess could.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Let's let's be honest here.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: He's in the blue paint. But regardless, at least that's
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: not a goal that really you know, cost them much.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Besides obviously gold differential, but they got the job done.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: You know, they played in Udine, which obviously they played
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: there before, but you know, a stadium that doesn't get
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: to see them often, so at least for the Union fans,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: uh or the fans from Udine that's not all labeled
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: them as fans fans probably, I'm sure there's you fans.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there was inter fans. I'm sure there was
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: lot of fans. I got to see.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Fed up. That was the greatest.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, guys.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Let's not assume. Let's not assume fan ships over here.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: But what I was gonna say, what the fans got
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: to see was debut from Meldini and debut from Lorenzo
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Luca and even Destiny would Oji made an appearance form
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Unit as a player himself. So it seemed like, you know,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: once once the game was out of reach, like split
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: to gave the fans what they wanted to see. But
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know what did you guys make of make
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: of the game itself?
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Nick, Yeah, listen, I one criticism I've always had of
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: this team as long as I can remember, like, you
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: want to see some easy wins, You want to see
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: them take care of the teams they're supposed to take
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: care of. I'm glad we saw that even you know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: the first half, like you're looking, oh, they're only up
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: one nail. They had three four chances to really be
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: up a goal, you know, but four half time hit
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: so put him in two three nail and that's what
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: you like to see. And they didn't let it get
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: them down that they were only up one goal by penalty, right.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: They carried on pretty early into the second half and
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: put the game out of reach. So I agree, fluky goal.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: We definitely need to get better at defending set pieces.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: That's a little bit of a cause for concern. But
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: you saw largely the same lineup. I think. Unfortunately, the
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: two guys that came in didn't look very good. They're
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: from your team, so I promise I'm not picking on
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: either of you guys. But but Jodie Man just to me,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: doesn't warrant being on the national team at this point
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: in time. Raspadoti, I guess you can kind of say,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm overly critical of Raspadoti. I just never
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: thought he had it. So I'm not going to turn
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: this into a bashing session. I mean I'm glad good
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: for him he got into the game, but he just
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: kind of reminded everybody that he's not really up to
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: this level. So I think that's more of a Italy
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: problem than a Raspadoti problem. Right, you have to pick
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: from what's available, and I think they only called like
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: three or four strikers for this window anyway, So good
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: for him that he got in the game. But to
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: your point, Nick, I think the key takeaways, you know, again,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: where they made it comfortable when they should have made
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: it comfortable. We got to see some feel good stories.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: I think Maldini is a good player, you know. I
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: don't know that he's quite ready for the national team,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: but I do think he does a lot of things, right.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I think he's a hard working player. So cool for him,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: cool for Vicadio, cool for Udogi. Pretty pretty straightforward. Now,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: let's get a point out of one of these next
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: two games and not have to sweat.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the a good point that you
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: brought up about the whole that's an Italy problem, not
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: a not a Respaditi problem.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I think that's a fair that's a fair statement, and if.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: You look at it makes sense, like if you're unning
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: a formation that you're going to go out forward with with.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: You only play one striker in a rotation, right, you
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: don't need to call up five or six, you just
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: call you just rotate between one or two per game, right,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: if you want to use one or two per game.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I think that's what the logic is. I think spilt
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: he has identified that the striker role is not one
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: of our greatest strengths we have, just you know, like
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: I want the red tag to be better. Let's just
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: say he's good enough right now. Is he gonna, like.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Does he have star power?
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say so, but I'm not saying he won't
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: have star power. He's still very young, he's still it's
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: still very new to him. So he still got we
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: still got more to see from him. But like, as
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: of right now, it's not gonna be one of those
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: guys that like you have circle on your calendar, like
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: you know, like or like on your scouting list.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: It's more like, Okay, well he's a good striker. He
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: he decided to play like.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: It helped out that he decided to play for an
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Italian national team rather than playing for the Argentinian national team, Right,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: so it's helped that he's done that.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: But because I mean, like it just like we're gonna go.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: After that, you know, like it just dips off to
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Skamaka afterwards. And I've been Scamaka's number one hater, not
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: be like I would. It's you know, like it's the
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: dip is tremendous. So yeah, it'slect He's like, look, I'm
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: gonna go. I think Rosperdotti has a bit of nepotism
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: of a pick, you know, because Pialetti has worked with
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: him and he can rely on on on Aspadoti, which
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: is very big in some in some cases, but we
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: I think he Spalletti knows that striker is not our
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: strongest role. He'd rather call up all of the better
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: players that play in the different roles, and it seems
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: to it seems to have found some kind of rhythm.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: If Espadotti can be called on later on in a game,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: like in a seventieth seventy fifth minute and just kind
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: of shut it down or just you know, like, uh,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: you know, keep it clean, then I think that's the
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: guy that's bled.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: He's all gonna go to.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: It helped in the France game, he neutralized a lot
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: of threats too. Speaking of that France game from before,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: I think he's he's great.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Is that like that? You know, like we have the
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: two way player in hockey. I think we call the
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: two way player in Galchow. It's nice to have that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: But yes, offensively he doesn't bring too much. But we'll
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: see where it goes from here.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Well you're gonna say something, Nick, Yeah, No, I mean
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I agree with you.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: I think I'm high to Taggi because again I think
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: that this is a guy that kind of got thrust
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: into a starting position, like right away, right he was
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: playing club football in Argentina, got gets called up, scores
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: a goal I think in his first two games or
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: two out of his first three games.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Something like that, the big England I believe.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Right game on first chance, first shot goal. So I
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: give him that, and you know, moves to Italy. He's
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: with Genoa. So you know, I don't know how much
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: stock we want to put into last year, but you
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: see this year, it's very early, but he's taken a
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: step up, right, Like we've seen him grow two straight years.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I think that's all you can ask for at this
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: point in time. And like you said, I think the
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: drop off after him is really really big. Everybody wants
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: to love Skamaka. I'm with you. I don't love him.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Obviously he's hurt, but you know he's never shown it
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: for the national team. It's not just him, nobody's really
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: shown it over the past ten to fifteen years. What
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: that is sifically right. But I don't think he's the answer.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: I don't think of hospital is the answer. And then,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: like you said, just the drop off. So now we're
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: talking about Daniel Maldini. Now we're talking about moist King.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Good players, you know, they deserve a chance as much
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: as anybody else. But you putting these guys in the
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: starting lineup the next game that we need you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: we need a point out of France or Belgium or
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: wherever we play next. That's that's really what worries me.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: So I think we we got to desperately figure something out.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna ask, is rich Thiggie you know,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the number nine at least for the first te re future,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: like it's his job to lose at this point.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: See tears an acl Absolutely, that's the only thing I
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: think that keeps him from starting. I mean I think
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Keen is off to a really really good start this year.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: If he goes on an absolute tear between now and
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: one of the next games, are they in December, November, February, November? Okay,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: I mean if he goes if he scores like five
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: goals in the next three games, maybe you give him
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: a nod. But no, I don't think you could take
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: it to take out at this point.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: No exactly exactly. You know it sucks for Skamaka, but.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: He never sees it when he had the opportunity, No.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Exactly, he was. He was a ghost for a guy
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: so big. He was a ghost at the Euros. So
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: you know what, So it was reck to gie, Let's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: put it that way. I forget exactly how many minutes
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: each played. I feel like each mean and appearance in
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: each game.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Now, I think so, I think Skamaka was the starter
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: though for the most.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Part least he would be stubbed on and then think
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I think started the uh, the Croatia game.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I want to say Croatia game that he started.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I think so. I I forgot this so much from
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the Euros, right, just because you know, I don't want
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: to remember what happened. He started against Croatia. The only
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: thing I remember is, you know.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: The two goals against.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Albinia and and that crazy is that kind of goal
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and then going crazy celebrating.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: But and in that one moment, the entirety of Villay
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: was lots of.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Looking at the Nations League standings, so yeah, Italy's
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: at ten points, France's at nine, Belgium's at four, in
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Israel's at zero. So the top two qualify for the quarterfinals.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Third place goes to a playoff to avoid relegation, and
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I think the fourth place is automatically relegated. So Italy
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: just needs one point to qualify for the quarterfinals because
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: the tiebreaker is actually based on head to head, So
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: if they you know, theoretically they could lose both games,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Belgium wins their remaining games and then Belgium would evance.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: But you know, regardless, it's an unlikely scenario. But I
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: think Italy is in a position where right now it
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: might be tough to actually win the group with who
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: they have to play. They have to play Belgium in
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Belgium and then they play France at home. Obviously that
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: game against France will determine the group no matter what happens,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: you know, Italy versus Belgium. It's whoever wins that game
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: is gonna is gonna win the group. Obviously, if there's
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: a draw, you know, that is all depending on what
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: happens to me versus Belgium. But at this point, you
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: know it at least the AJUTY will at least move
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: on to the court finals play more meaningful games in March.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I know we've talked about it, you know, with Jenny,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: But how important Nick, do you think it is for
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the AZUTI to you know, I guess compete more in
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: the tournament, even reach the semi finals or get to
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: a final, because they've lost in the semifinals the past
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: two editions.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: I think it's one of those if we we're gonna cope, right.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: If we don't do well, oh it's a fake tournament.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: They're friendly games, it doesn't matter. But if all of
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: a sudden somehow we're in the finals, who win the tournament?
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Oh we want a tournament. We want a finals. So
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit of hypocrisy around it,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: But personally, I mean, I take the same stance on
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: this as I've talked to you guys, as I did
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: with Latsio right, like any trophy as a trophy, trophies
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: don't come around very often. They're there. You know, this
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: is a new tournament. You could put whatever stock in
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: it that you want. The fact that they're in a
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: group with France and Belgium and they have a chance
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: to win that group, they have a chance to advance
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: out of it. They've looked good in four games. I
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: put a lot into that because I mean the alternative
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: is we could be playing a friendly match against Estonia
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: and what you know, people will have the same positive
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: or negative things to say. We did it against Belgium,
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: we did it against France. We looked good in all
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: four games. We probably should have won all four games.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: I really don't think you could ask for more. To me,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: that makes this tournament interesting. And I want the team
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: to do as good as they possibly can, so give
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: me semi finals. Plus I'd love to see them win
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: the thing.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Same.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I'm with you there.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Like I've always argued, trophy is a trophy no matter
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: who you're, who you're playing for, or who you're with.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Or you just you got you gotta go for it.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: You gotta go for it.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: And and Italy has the opportunity to go for something
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: else on the trophy case, for something else on the
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: trophy case, and I wouldn't be celebrating and like crazy,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: but I would be you know, happy about it, and
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I'd be talking about it.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: It's it is a nice it's a nice achievement.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: It's it just it makes like as we discussed many
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: many times before, it gives meaning to friendlies. It gives
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: us like, you know, like a bit of a competitive purpose.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: And it kind of also showcases that, Okay, how does
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: this new squad factor in more competitive scenarios, you know
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: or quote unquote new squad, you know, like how how
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: are they you know what, when there is an achievement
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: to be earned, are they playing for it or are
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: they also just checking out? You know? And it shows
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: a character thing as well as a group because if
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: they just mentally checked out, and if if you hear
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: the players saying like, oh, you know, well it's just
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: a trophy, that's a friendly trophy or blah blah blah,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: that's not a good look. That's not a good core
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: of players that you want. You want guys that no
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: matter what it is that's on the line, whether it's
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: a small or big trophy, they still want to win it.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: It's that's what that's what being an athlete, a competitive
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: player is. So uh, you bet your ass. I'll be
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: celebrating it. If they lose, it'll be like, well that sucks,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: but I'm not going to be heartbroken.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: But if they win and.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to be running to her, I think
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: we all will be.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: It depends how if it's.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Time, you know, like beating us in a final or
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: something stupid like that, I'd be devastated.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, I guess so, And I can't
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: argue with you there.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, even you know what, even even for me, it's
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: it's it's a tournament I've want wanted Italy to win,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: just to just to almost have that bragging rights right,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: it would be nice, Like I know, you know, Christiano fans,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: you said, that's bragging rights, So why can't we incasively
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: wins it. I the year I really wanted them to
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: win was when they hosted it hosted the semi finals
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: in the finals two three years ago. Now I was
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: right after the euro so that would have been that
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: was one year like I was really hoping that, you know,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: coming off the euro win they win that, like, hey,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: look we've won both the tournaments. But you know, obviously
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: it didn't happen. But again, I think even even just
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: for for confidence, it could help this team, as you know,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Jenny was talking about, it could help this team heading
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: into that World Cup qualification. You know, we find out
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: today they're gonna be in Paul one World Cup qualifying.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Great moral victory doesn't mean anything, right, you know, you
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: could make the argument that I'm pretty sure they're actually
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I think they were in Paul one also in UH
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: with the last qualification, but the twenty eighteen qualification they're
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: in Pot two. That's why there was Spain and ended
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: up playing the playoffs. But you know, nowadays, I don't
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: care if our group has France, Belgium, England and Portugal
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: in qualifying. They got to do it right, There's no excuses,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: especially coming up in the US. But but yeah.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Well the finals in New Jersey, they have to play it, you.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, Tonysprano's gotta go. But you know, looking
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: keep you on topic of nations, like look at these
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: last few games, Like I said, France, I'm sorry Belgium.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: On the fourteenth, France on the seventeenth. Do you guys
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: have any expectations for those games.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: You gotta get I don't want to leave it to
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: the last game. I think you gotta beat Belgium or
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: at least get a point off of them. I don't
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: think they've looked particularly good. I'm trying to remember the
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: exact results, Like when they beat France. I think France
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: was down to man. I'm sorry, when France beat them.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: I think France was down to man at some point
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: in that game in staf held on. Yeah, exactly right,
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: game one, and then I don't think they scored against
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: France in the next game. Would be smart if I
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: pulled this up to have it right in front of me. Yeah, okay,
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: So France beat them to nothing, and then the first
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: game Frans beat them to once. So I mean, benefits
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: of two red cards, one against US one against France.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: They took care of business against Israel. You certainly expect
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: them to do that again. But they haven't looked super
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: fierce up top. I mean, I think they're getting older.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Some of the new guys they're integrating are okay. I
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: don't know how much I buy into guys like Doku.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know how much I buy into guys like Trassard,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: who's really going to score the goals for them game
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: in and game out. Now that de Bruyn is, you know,
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: thirty five injured. Lukaku, I don't even know if he
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: played the last couple of games. I don't know if
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: they want him to play. I don't know if he
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: is retired. On a really noble situation is it's just
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: not a team really to be feared the same way
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: that they have been, and I feel like we've had
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: their number right. I feel like we always tend to
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: perform well against them, so I'd really just like to
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: get it done in this next game. I have to agree.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, Belgium has been on the benefit
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: of a fortunate of some fortunate luck. I think though,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: this time around, if Italy stays clean, like if it
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: wasn't for that red card, this game was definitely going
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: to be turned out for three points for Italy. So
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: I think this time around they're going to go into
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: it with us with smarter looks and not you know,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: not overthink it. I think the squad believes that they
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: can they can handle Belgium, and especially if guys like
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Lucac who still keeps on refusing and going to play
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: to stay with the club just to like keep you know,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: prevention from injuries and stuff. I think Italy still has
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: a really good has a really good chance to get
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: in that win.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: After the France game. I fact, I hope a tie.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I think my expectations for
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: these upcompanies last two group stage games really went versus Belgium,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: tie versus France. I think.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: I think that's basically what I what, I what I
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: would probably predict, and.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: What my expectations are. And if you end up tying both,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: you end up tying both, which is fine, you know,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: because weird things usually happened. But that's essentially what I'm leaning.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Towards, honestly. Same. And I'm gonna be a bit pessimistic
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: because Italy's playing France in Melan and I feel like
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: they never have good results in me Liane, you know,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: you think of the game versus Sweden, even when they
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: lost to Spain in the Nation's League three years ago.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: In this in the semi finals, they they I know they.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I think they beat England last time they played in Melin,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: but overall, like it's a bit of a curuse stadium
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: for the Zudi.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Didn't they lose in the World Cup too?
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I was I wasn't around for that, so I.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Mean I think was I think ny was was Napoly
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Actually yeah, yeah, they played semi final.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the ennample of time fans were cheering for
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: for Maridona.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, classic classy fans you got there in the you got.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: People keep on shitting Apole Dani. That's what it's gonna happen.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: In the stadium that was named after him, obviously. But yeah, guys, uh,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: you know, before before we ended, uh you know, short
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: short podcast tonight, you know there's only two games where
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: we talk about, right, but you still want to talk
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: about the games this weekend in in Sidia. There are
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: some big games I Nick. I know Nick talked about
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: it on on your podcast tonight on Kicks and picks Pot.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: But pretty much the two big ones are uh, Juve
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Lazio on Saturday, Roma inter on Sunday. You know what
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw in even Meland for me, Yeah exactly.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I know this is not a story game. The same
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: way we're gonna throw in Uve Lazzo and en Roma
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: inter but this is fifth, fourth, fourth versus fifth, I believe,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Uh sorry, fifth versus sixth on thirteen Milan on eleven points.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: So uh, you know, considering the start that d is having,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: this is a big game for both clubs.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: So you know, for me, those are the three games.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Is there one game that you guys are excited about?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: I mean for you know what for me and Nick?
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I guess it's easy to say because it's the Uve
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Lazio game. And I will say I will say that
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: is that is my birthday actually on Saturday, So I
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: hope you've delivers a win or else my birthday is canceled.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Oh wow. A lot of pressure on lots.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Of this year. No party, no nothing. I'm gonna be
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: sitting in bed trying if Youvey loses listen.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, I can't have that.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: I have to say I've been pleasant, surprised with lots
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: you know so far this year. I was harsh on
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: them for picking this coach. Not only I was harsh
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: on them for picking players in the transfer window that
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: some people had never heard of, and picking players from
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Hellas and Sitana and bargain basement shopping. Is probably what
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: I called it a dollar store shopping. But they've done
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: just about everything right. You know, they had a bad
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: loss to it in Isaiah that if it were later
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: in the year probably doesn't happen. They had a really
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: bad loss to Fjordentina. Other than those two games, they've
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: they've been almost perfect. You know, they haven't dropped any
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: other points, I don't think, or maybe one other draw,
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: but they've been good in Europe. They're taking Europe seriously
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: and they just look like they're having fun, which is
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: something I hadn't seen in three years. So came into
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: the season without expectations. I'm not saying I'm adjusting those expectations,
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: but I think they're a lot further ahead than I
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: thought they would be. And just with the state of
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: the league, the way that every single team is inconsistent,
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Like now, you're starting to think, well, what could have
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: been if you picked up you know, three more points
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: in those two games or something like that. But this
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: is going to be the test. This will tell me
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: everything I need to know about Latso. I mean, I
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: think if they go into this game, take it seriously
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: away from home, and they can get a point, I'll
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: be really really happy because Youve's as much shit as
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I want to give them. Most is obviously a good coach.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: Their defense looks outstanding, Diger Gordeo's look good. It's going
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: to be tough to get goals. I think goals are
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: going to be at a premium in this one. So
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: I hope it's a fun game. You know, it wouldn't
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: shock me to see, like, oh, Juve one, they'll win,
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: But I'd love to see Latsio walk out of this
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: home with the points. I think, you know, they've they're
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: starting to figure it out. They're starting to look good.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: I think they can give Juve some trouble and it's
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: not like You've has been setting the world on fire
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: with goal scoring. So I'm trying to be optimistic here.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: But it's going to be tough away from home.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I uh, you know what it is. I think, uh.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, like, look, juvea roma very big game ends
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: up zero zero, not Beluve, A very big game ends
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: up being zero zero.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I think this game might end up being zero zero
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: as well. Like it just we were Nick.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Was mentioned it once like where We're together that it
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: just doesn't seem like Mata can.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Coach very well.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: In very high, high pressure games with because like with Juventus,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: there's a bigger expectation than there was a Bolognet So, uh,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: right now, he's maybe still has those like early jitters
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: and nerves like Champions League. You know, he's been having
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: phenomenal results, but it.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Just comes up domestically. He's just hasn't been great against
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: the important teams.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: And not to cut you off, I mean, no, please
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: do to cut you off, but not to hurt your feelings.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: You're exactly right. Look at what he did last year.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at Bologna's results and obviously
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: had a phenomenal year, a whole lot of one nil wins,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: a whole lot of zero zero draws, won one draws,
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: you know he he's not the best like coming from
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: behind or really putting the game out of hand. And
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: I think that's what we're seeing early on. So I
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: think you're spot on.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: And and you know what, it's funny if you look
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: at you as results in every single game except for one,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: they either scored three goals or not, So it feels
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: like it's a team that when everything goes smoothly, it
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: goes super well. Three they scored three goals, and you know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: everything's great and then it's not so good. They get
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: frustrated zero goals. Obviously, the games where they've scored zero
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: goals are against better teams like Roma and Napoly. You
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: know what. They scored zero goals against Empley, but they're
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: one of the better defensive teams in the city. This season.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: For me, the most frustrating game was the one one
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: against Cality last time out. So if it really feels
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: like they have to bounce back, it's like two weeks
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: waiting on that to bounce back. But yeah, it's it's
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: going to be a tough game. It's in. It's enturi in,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: it's entering. They play, you play Saturday, they played Tuesday
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: in the Champions League. Then they play inter the following Sunday.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Uh so it's it's a tough week. It's a big
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: week for ve. Well, we'll see what Montas meet of,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: what this uves meet of, and and you know, we'll
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: we'll talk at the end of it just to yeah,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: for sure, whether I'm in a good moon or in
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: a bad moon.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: We'll see if you're having cake or not. But now
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: I think that's the only thing that gives me a
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: little bit of hope. Is you know Latso's got a
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: weather storm in the first twenty five minutes. I think
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: because they've given up stupid goals, they've given up early goals.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: I got to hope you is looking ahead to those
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: pixtures right, Champions League in just a couple of days time,
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: that that's got to be the hope. Lots ofos got
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: to catch them early.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Uh and Jenny Roma Roma inter any expectations for that one.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just hoping it's not going to be a blowout.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: I just I just I hope it's going to be
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: a close one. I don't really have strong expectations for
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: that matchup.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Rum of this year is just once again a team
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: that's always been looks good on paper, just performance wise,
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: you know, it just hasn't been working out with the
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Bala being you know, made a paper glass, our paper
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: mache and glass at the same time.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: You know, it's unfortunate.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: So I really, you know, don't have any strong expectations
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: going in, especially all the drama it's still going on
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: with the team. I just hope that it won't be
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: a blowout because I really don't I don't see a
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: way that Inter loses this unless Inter messes up themselves.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: To be honest with you.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it's not the same Inter this season.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I find they're still really good.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: A little bit older. Yeah, nobody wants to talk about it.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of football they've played the last two years.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they've won four of their seven games.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: You know it's good, but based on you know, expectations,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I think they would have liked to win maybe five
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: or six of the up until now, kind of like Napoly.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: But you know, they staw the better. They still are
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: the better team than Roma, you know, flat out. And
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Jenny, what's happening with Roma's coaches. I mean,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: you're you're just still around, right, Yeah?
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: The international break, didn't they didn't.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Fire him and hired da Rossi, then fired d Rossi and.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: The rumors that's going around, and I'm like, oh god,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: that's gonna be even more embarrassing if that, if that's
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: the situation, No, please.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Not him the Salvation King.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: Right or who's another one?
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Stop, you guys are became physically ill.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Guys.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: Wait, well, I gotta give I gotta give Johnny a
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: little bit of props because I didn't trash him. But
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: we've had a healthy discussion, and I brought up the
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: clip the episode you guys have preview in the year
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: that you said Como could be a top ten team. Yeah,
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: and I was like, no way, They're closer to a
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: relegation team. And they've impressed me so far. You're on
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: the right track. I have to give them some credit.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: I think they showed a lot of resilience early on,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: and the least I could do is say that here
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: on your show.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that I'm holding out. I'm holding out.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I hope they actually do end up being a top
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: ten team. It's not going to be like I told
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: you so.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but uh, it's gonna be tough. It's gonna but
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: because they just like I said, it's too good of
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: a roster to not have some results, and they're getting some.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: I think they're starting to jell a bit more and
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: definitely could punish a team that interestimates them because they
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: do have some players there that on a good day,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: are pretty scary players to play against.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, the other thing that I maybe overlooked was
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: how bad Monza was going to be, how bad VENETSI
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: was going to be, how bad like Lee was going
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: to be?
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: Like last year had a good start too, right, data
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: phenomenal run too at the beginning, and then they just dipped.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm still in the Basketoto is number one,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: big fan, but you know, like it's the dream is dead.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: That's the best, the best way to describe it.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like we can't have too many good
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: teams in the South you neet that the North River, but.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Nick, you talk about these bottom teams, it's they're so
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: hard to predict, like they're all so mediocre that you
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: don't know which one will be the least mediocre most mediocre,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: you know, and that's the state of Talian football. It's
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: such a you know, what's that word where like I
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: think there's two things Dichotomy? Is that the word, Jenny?
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Is that the word I'm looking.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: For where you're trying to say, like like it be
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: one thing split, it's like bifurcated.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I think like the duality of it is, yeah, ecotomy.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I think that the ecotomy, that's exactly is it dichotomy?
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: I'm curious myself, actually.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: English with the couch guys. No, but you know that
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: that's how.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Contrast between two things that are or as being opposed
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: are entirely different.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, and what's the duality of the situation.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: There you go. That's that's what I was looking for.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Being dual knocking.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, but yeah, like you know, there there's these months,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: you know, mons of generals, les cavities, you know, even throwing.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: They they do spend a bit more money. They're in fourteenth.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: But you know, I think one of the issues with
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: COMO is that you're getting all these new players playing
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: together for the first time. It's gonna take some time.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Obviously they had rough starts to the season. They've been
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: getting better, but yeah, well we'll see. We'll see if
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: they finished top ten by seasons, and then we'll see
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: if Jenny could do a big I told you so
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: in everyone's face.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, credit due, I mean, in fairness, the point I
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: made was, and I only looked at it from a
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: betting lens. It's a team that just got promoted, and
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: you were giving me plus nine hundred for them to
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: go right back down, And I'm like, that's a that's
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: a no brainer. I bet it. Yeah, I don't. I
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: took my emotion out of it and just said, I
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: don't care what the roster looks like. This is a
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: brand new, first time in the city, a team that's
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: an insane number. Normally a team like that would be,
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: you know, odds on favorite to go right back down.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: So yeah, that's why I was trying to make the argument.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: I don't and I don't disagree with you from a
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: betting perspective, because it's like, holy hell, can nine times
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: my bet with with that?
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Like of course I'm gonna slap that on, you know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: And it's like why not, you know, And it's just
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I guess sometimes some things are just too good to
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: be true.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: What's I commented on your live stream. I didn't have
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: a chance to listen to it all. But you know,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: what are the odds for Localatelly getting yellow on Sunday?
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I know, someone told me that's the easiest bet he
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: ever does. Every week Localatelly getting yellow, it's pretty good.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: He's usually sitting around like plus two hundred, which I
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: think is like really solid. They didn't have the line
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: out for that yet. They'll usually put that out about.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: The day before for yellow cards.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that'll do it for us guys.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: You know, if you want more bets, betting advice, where
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: can people find you any podcast?
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Nick?
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it, guys, Kicks and Picks podcasts usually
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: doing shows on Wednesday. We mix in some shows throughout
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: the year at different times if there's Champions League or
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: International or something like that going on. But catch us
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: on Twitter or x at Kicks Picks pod and on
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: YouTube as well. Trying to start up TikTok also for shorts,
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: but we'll see how that goes, how much patience any
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: of us have to try to get that going. But
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: you know, I understand that, you know, not everybody wants
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: to sit there and listen to a you know, forty
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: five to fifty minute episode breaking down all the bets.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: You might just want one or two in short forms.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: So we'll take any suggestions on that. But that's something
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: I think we're working towards this year, is to put
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: out some more quickly digestible content. So definitely, you know,
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: try to be like you guys, right, We we love
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: to get on, We love to talk to each other.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: We love to go in depth and talk everything you know,
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: through and get opinions. And have discussion disagreement. So we
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: love the format. But you know, I get that not
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: everybody has the time, right, there's so much great content
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: out there. I say every week, you know, I'm trying
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: to listen to you guys, I'm trying to listen to
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: fifty podcasts.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: It's not enough time of the day. So I think
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: think that's the goal for this year, but definitely would
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: appreciate you know, like a follow, a subscribe, you know,
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: it's click of a button that doesn't doesn't take too much,
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: goes a long way.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Though first I thought you're gonna say, no one wants
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: to listen to forty forty five year old on TikTok, which, oh,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: that sounds a right based.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: On that app.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a reason I'm not on that app. Tool.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: I don't think you're quite forty five, man, But no.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Not just even at my age. I'm too old for
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: it now.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: What I'm trying to say, though, is that I think
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: they're onto something with like short videos, like quick attention spans.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if TikTok is the way, maybe
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: it's YouTube shorts whatever, but the point is we're trying
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: to trying to dabble a little bit, see what we
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: can do.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: And for us on social media, you could find us
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: on Instagram, Twitter, or x whatever you want to call it, YouTube, Facebook,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: You don't follow us on all your favorite podcasting platforms
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: including speaker, iTunes, Google podcast, iHeartRadio, whatever you listen to,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: we'll be there couch you guys. Uh for Johnny, I'm
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Nicholas and UH see you next week and thanks for listening.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Bang