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11/21/2023 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Amy Grady, Ric Cavender, and Tim Head · The Dave Allen Show

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So we're going to talk to him about that coming up a little bit later
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on, plus more on the gas crisis on the West Side. Want to
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welcome into the show though this morning to talk a little education this morning.
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State Senator Amy Nicole Grady, Senator, Good morning, how are you?
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Good morning, Dave. I'm doing great. How are you today? I
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am fine? Thank you for being here. And I invited you, Senator
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on the show after a report that I actually saw in a local television news
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station here in the valley last week and had to do with something called the
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Underwood Grants. Now, you and some others are concerned about a lack of
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funding for these grants, and I guess a good place to start would be
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asking you what are the Underwood Grants and what's up with the lack of funding.
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Well, they're actually a scholarship scholarship. Yeah, the Underwood Smith is
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a teaching scholarship and it's awarded to high school students who are going into the
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education field and it can pay for ten thousand dollars per year for them and
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in return, they agree to teach in West Virginia for a minimum of five
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years and if they leave West Virginia, of course, then they have to
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pay it back so within that timeframe. So it's really important in making sure
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that our young people that want to go into education, number one, stay
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in West Virginia and teach because we need teachers, but just the way to
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support them as well. And when it was funded originally it was it was
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basically funded out of the surplus and it was it was not put in the
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budget to be recurring. So I talked with a chancellor and I know she
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has requested with the Governor's office that we put in the governor's budget right now
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that they're working on right now. So and then we're going to have some
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talks in the Senate about it as well in the House and hopefully we can
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get something figured out. Well, it's important, Well, of course it
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is. And you probably better than anybody know this because you are a teacher
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and it's been well well documented in the past. So hopefully this can get
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taken care of, because it's very important not only to get teachers in classrooms
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but also to get them to stay in the classrooms as well. And certainly
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got a lot. You've got a lot against you. Yeah, So,
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I mean we have the people that have been the students have been awarded the
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scholarship that are in college right now. You know, they still have that
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that's still available to them. The only thing that the funding is not available
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for new applicants. Okay, so the high school seniors this year that applied
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for it were really surprised when they got an email back saying I'm sorry,
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there's no funding available and I'll figure you what. Dave, I was also
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surprised. I didn't realize or I didn't learn about that until about a month
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ago. I had a teacher from a local high school that I know used
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to be my neighbor, and he texted me and said, Hey, I'm
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trying to help some students fill out some applications for scholarships, and we're being
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told that there's no funding for the Smith under the Underwood Smith Scholarship, and
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I said, oh, well, let me check on that, and that
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started the ball rolling. So hopefully we can make sure that this doesn't happen
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again. Yeah, and I think it's worth pointing out, as you said,
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Senator Grady, that this doesn't affect the the students. This is moving
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forward. This is making sure that the continued, that these scholarships can continue
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to be found out. We can get those in the budget. Centator,
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I heard a clip from the head of the state school Board, Paul Hardesty,
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calling for what he called more local school board accountability. What was he
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referencing and what is your response to that? You know, this fall,
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we've had we've had several meetings together, that's myself and some of the Senate
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leadership, with Superintendent Black and President Paul Hardesty about some things that we can
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do to help improve, you know, things that we can do to be
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supportive of the department. Just just a lot of good educational talks. And
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we've talked a lot about local board, local boards, local school boards.
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And when I say this, I don't mean every single one, you know,
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because we have some school boards that do wonderful things. We have some
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school boards that you know, clearly aren't doing what they're supposed to do.
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So we're trying to see how without taking away local control, we can,
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though make certain that they know that they're held accountable for things. Let's talk
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about specifically. We've been talking about performance, okay, so that you know,
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whenever it's academic performance. Sometimes I think we get things get lost in
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the shuffle and we forget that that's what our school boards are there for,
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you know. And people a lot of times focus a lot on finances and
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things like that. That's important too, but maybe make some clear lines of
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detail on what the superintendent of the local county is responsible for and what the
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boards are responsible for, because sometimes they'll hire a superintendent who wants to come
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in and make a lot of positive changes academically and they don't get any support
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from their board, you know. And so we just we're just exploring a
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lot of that and what we want to do to make sure that we are
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saying, hey, we expect good results. We know we can have good
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results, but at the local level, you need to expect it to Talking
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Senator, you are on Hoppy yesterday talking about a trip that I think it's
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you and the state school superintendent mister Blatt are going to be making to Denver
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next week. Talk again about that we are it's a Superintendent Blatt and I
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and also Jackson County Superintendent will Hostafluke, are going to be going to Denver
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to a conference with the Education Commission of the States to present it's a spotlight
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on must Virginia. So we're going to present the third Grade Success Act,
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how we are implementing it, the positives we're going to see from it to
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people from all over the country. And I think it's exciting because this is
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a spotlight on must Virginia. That's something positive about education. You know,
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how many times do we always hear the negatives about we're forty eighth or we're
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forty ninth, You know, or we're doing this, We're we always hear
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negative things. So to be contacted from an organization that works across the nation
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and recognize that this is transformational and for us to present it to other places
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is I think is really exciting. You're somebody, as I said, Sender,
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you know obviously you you were in the classroom when you're not under the
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gold Dome. How are we doing education wise in in West Virginia? Because,
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as you said, any time you hear about West Virginia, especially on
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the national front, you hear about West Virginia in the news as it comes
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to public education, it's usually not very positive. Unfortunately, it's been that
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way for some time. How are how are we doing overall? And are
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we are we? Are we doing any better? Well, I'm seeing a
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good I'm seeing a positive shift in attitudes from teachers. And I'll just say
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this because when when we were working on that their Great Success Act last year,
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that was a lot a lot I got a lot of questions about,
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well, how do you think teachers are going to take this because it is
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a lot of new training and it's a lot more rigorous, And I said,
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well, I think they'll be excited because they know how positive it can
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be. And the department held some conferences this summer to kind of introduce that
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and try to get everybody, you know, going on the science of rena
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reading and things like that, and the the enthusiasm was there, Dave,
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and it was really exciting to see because it takes sometimes it's easy to get
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monotonous things to get monotonous, but and when you introduce something that's a little
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bit more work or harder work, it's easy for people to shut down.
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But I've seen excitement. And I think there's a lot more focus on small
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group which makes a huge difference. And I think people are starting to realize
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that having a smaller ratio of student teacher is really important. So I think,
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you know, I think we're going to start trending up, which I
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said this last year when we passed that their Great Success Act, I said,
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you know, and we're going to see a difference in five to seven
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years. So it's not going to happen overnight. But in five to seven
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years, you ask me again, Okay, well, let's see. Well,
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as we always say about any problem, you didn't get into this overnight,
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you're not going to get out of it overnight, you know, no
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matter about what the issue is. And you know, I was listening,
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as I said, to your interview with Hoppy yesterday, Senator, and I
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thought you did a great job on the interview, but you kind of outline
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some things that teachers face in the classroom on a daily basis. And you
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know, I'm a kid of the nineteen seventies and and people will say,
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well, the biggest problems are talking in class, and the biggest problems are
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chewing gum or running in the halls or whatever, you know, whatever,
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the mini school things that we got in trouble for the nineteen seventies and eighties.
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I don't think sometimes people maybe of my age and older, realize what
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it's like to be a public school teacher, not only in West Virginia,
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but in other places. In the year twenty twenty three heading into twenty twenty
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four, talk about that just a little bit, some of the things that
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you and others face on a regular basis. I think that's an accurate statement.
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You know, boy, I wish those are the only things we had
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to worry about now, you know, now we have we have students that
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are coming into our classrooms with a lot of trauma, which I completely understand.
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You know, they come from situations that we probably couldn't even fathom that
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they go through, and so they come with all these all this trauma.
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They can't they don't know how to handle their emotions and they've never or they've
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never been taught how to. And I'm talking making threats against teachers. I
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mean as easy as you know, I'll kill you. I'm gonna I'm gonna
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punch you in the face, throwing materials and throwing chromebooks and things across the
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room. It is very violent behavior that we would have never seen back when
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you or I either one with school. And that's what's driving teachers away from
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education. It's not it is not the pay. God. You know,
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there might be a few people out here that say, oh, yes,
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I'm going to leave for the pay, but let's be honest, it's not
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that. It is the fact that we're expected to deal with these behaviors and
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we basically don't feel like we have much support. And when I say that,
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I don't mean there's not people supporting it, but it seems like everybody
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wants to focus on how do we help the student fantastic. We're supposed to
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help them all, you know, but we can't. We can't always love
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them enough that it'll change the behavior. At some point, we have to
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look at the class as a whole and say, well, what is this
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behavior and how is it affecting the other students in the classroom, you know,
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and it's having a negative effect on them, so that it's just a
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huge it's a huge deal. Are working on some legislation that hopefully will help
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with some behavioral supports. Definitely not punishing, you know, kids for things
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they've been through, but we also have to look at it and say,
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what about the kids that come to school and that's their safe space? You
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know, school for some kids is their safe space and this is taking that
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away from them. That's not fair to them. Yeah, I mean it
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is. And again just to show you how far it's gone, there are
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many I can't imagine maybe when I was growing up, that there would be
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a whole lot of kids would say I can't wait to get back to school,
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you know, because they wanted to be home with their family and friends
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and whatever. And sadly there are kids now in our school system again,
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not just here, but across the country that they want to get back to
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school because it's the only place they get fed, and it's place they had
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that safe space, as you said, Yeah, yeah, and so they
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come to they want to come to school. And then you know, if
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you have a student without burst like this to make them feel unsafe, you
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know, how how fair is that? It's not fair? So we you
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know, we have to make sure we're taking care of every student's needs,
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but sometimes we have to look at the majority and say, you know,
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this is affecting the majority of the students and we need to change the behavior
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of one. You know, it's we've come to the point that we're making
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exceptions for people the minority. You know, we're making a lot of exceptions
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and saying, you know, we have to we have to adjust or adapt
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for this person instead of trying to teach them how to adapt to society and
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teach them how to adapt to the rules and adapt to the laws of our
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land. You know. Yeah, before we let you go, I got
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two things for One of those is there's been these hearing senator around the state
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about PEA and all the problems that it's facing. There was one held in
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Charleston. I think just last week, they've been held around the states.
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Where are we? Where are you on pi A as we head into a
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new session next month? Are we going to get some of these things some
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of these questions answered? I guess that's a very broad question. But where
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are we on PA and moving forward? You know, Dave, I'm a
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PIA policy holder, so I definitely never ever want to see raises, and
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you so in my premiums increases in my premium. What I look at is
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I ask my neighbors, and I ask my friends who have private insurance.
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Has your insurance gone up? Their answer is always yes, and their answer
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is usually four paying forty percent more this year in our premium, you know.
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And so I try to take a perspective of that and understand that insurance
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has to raise as healthcare costs go up. And I think what we got
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used to us PI policy holders is for what fifteen years, there was no
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premium increase because the state just absorbed that. And I think that we have
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to maybe look at that and say, Okay, we got used to that
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when we probably shouldn't have. Every year there should have been a small increase,
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don't I don't want to pay more. Nobody does, but you know,
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that's just it's a part of life. As things go up. You
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know, our costs go up to the state is still absorbing most of that,
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you know. I think what we're looking at is PI premiums are going
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to go up for the policy holder like fifteen percent. And when I asked
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my neighbor the other day about their private insurance they did they said forty percent
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last year. I couldn't believe that, and that's it's ridiculous for any any
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insurance to go up that much. But it's a fact of life. And
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if we can take care of it, you know, we definitely will.
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But I know that it's probably not going to get taken care of this year.
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That's just my thought process on it. I think we have discussed it
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a little bit to see what we can do. Maybe another pay raise.
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We're not sure, but I don't know what's going to happen yet. We're
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still on discussions for this all right, final thing here, I had a
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text here for you that going back to the Smiths Underwood Scholarships, someone asked
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to please ask Integrady, since you are the sending education chair, why wasn't
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the program funded? You kind of explain that a little bit, but in
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case they may have missed it, explained again why this shortfall. Well,
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it was funded in two thousand, I believe twenty nineteen. It was before
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I was in the legislature. It was in twenty nineteen it was funded,
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and that it was kind of I guess I don't want to say this,
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but I kind of want to say maybe a trial and error basis, see
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how much it was going to be used, and it was just never brought
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to the attention to be put in the budget to be recurring. That it
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was that it was going to drive up or run out, and that that's
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my I mean, that's my answer. So what I'm hoping we can do
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is to get it taken care of so these kids that are applying for this
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year they won't miss it and so that their funding would be there for that.
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And that's what that's what the goal is, and I think we can
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probably do that. I think that the chancellor said we're looking at one point
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five million dollars to fund that, and that gives about twenty five kids the
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scholarship for for their four years of college. All Right, Senator Grady as
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always a pleasure to have you on the show. Hope you and your family
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have a very, very happy Thanksgiving. We'll talk again soon. Thanks a
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lot, Thanks Dag, You to you. Okay, all right? Nine
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her to slow down next time she's on. She's talking so fast and makes
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me dizzy. Look, I can't complain about anybody talking too fast, all
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right, so noted, not slow down, Senator Grady. She's just very
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passionate. She just gets excited about what she's talking about. Texas Centator Grady
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did a good job. But we have to pay our teachers adequately and quit
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taking away benefits if we want quality. If we want quality, we must
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pay for quality, says a texture textra says, I think things got worse
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when the GOP was calling teachers names and telling teachers they needed to get back
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in the classrooms during the pandemic, with no concerns for people's safety. It
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is sad. Tex says it's so unfair that students don't feel safe at school.
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The meantime, kids, it's time for the monthly school shooting drill.
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Don't think for a second the Senator Grady or the Republican Legislature thinks this is
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a situation that's worth addressing. They'll just give guns to the kids, just
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like they did for college. According to a Texter, Rick Cavner is executive
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director Charleston Urban Works. He joins us right now, Richard, good morning.
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How are you, sir? You knowing I'm doing fine. Thank you
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for being here. Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving. I'm surprised you've never heard
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gotten the comment about me talking fast. That's like the main feedback I get
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as I talk to you fast. You know it happens, it as not
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this early in the morning. Yeah, little congested there. We're just trying
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to get you through this. Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it.
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So, first of all, I know your role as the director Charleston Urban
21:49
Works and also as a member of the Canagh County Board of Education. You've
21:53
been closely watching the situation with the gas crisis on the West Side. No,
21:57
it's not necessarily your field of expert, but any thoughts from you on
22:00
that well, well, I just continue to think about all these affected families.
22:03
You know, it's so unfortunate and it didn't have to happen. I'll
22:07
just say that, and I hate I will say the way that our city's
22:11
administration and so many members of the community and city council members have stepped up
22:15
and have been right there in the middle of trying to get make sure these
22:18
folks are getting heaters, getting the supplies they need to stay warm during this
22:22
time of year. You know, it's it's mostly affected residential has affected some
22:26
businesses, you know, and I think that's probably where I would speak more
22:29
just because of sure we do. I mean, I've been in touch with
22:32
some of the business owners. I guess would be south of Washington Street is
22:34
where the affected area is. You know, it's really affected them. It's
22:38
really been a huge deal to be out of business that many days. As
22:41
you know, Dave, you know, every day you're not making revenue,
22:44
you're you're you're going in the whole last week, you're still you still have
22:47
expenses, right Yeah. Millie Snyder, I get from the Shape Shop,
22:51
was on the show talking about that last next week or last week, we'll
22:55
talk about the state of business and Charles right now, Rick, particularly small
22:57
business. You know, a lot of buzz around downtown Charleston these days and
23:00
the holiday season Holly Jolly Brawley Friday Saturday, the ongoing Slango law light,
23:06
the night over to ball Park seems to downtown Charleston's pretty lit up. It's
23:10
kind of like the place to be. Yeah, you know, the whole
23:11
really sort of urban core is that there's things going on everywhere, and there's
23:17
definitely seems to be an excitement that surrounds the holidays over the last few years,
23:21
certainly this year that maybe wasn't here you know, six seven, eight
23:23
years ago, at least to this extent, it's really exciting to see.
23:26
You know, it's bringing people in these what the things you just mentioned alone
23:30
are bringing thousands of people in that do not live in Charleston, right They
23:33
they live in the surrounding counties. I've heard stores of people coming in from
23:37
other states. You know, we're talking that's that's new revenue. What we're
23:41
experiencing that the city is experiencing, that these businesses, the surrounding businesses are
23:45
experiencing the vendors there that are set up in those spaces that are experiencing.
23:49
Economically, it's great, and culturally it's great. It's bringing it, it's
23:52
it's it's it's adding this this this this layer of culture to our to our
23:56
city that didn't exist before. Yeah, I mean it's just amazing. I
24:00
mean again, Charleston's back on the map again when it comes to these sorts
24:03
of things. So yeah, it's it's great to see. And I'm always
24:06
happy when any of our local cities here in the valley do well well r
24:10
South Charleston, St. Albans Hurricane and you know, let's let's let's have
24:12
success for all of them, and you know, and and support these small
24:15
businesses. Speaking of which, perfect transition, talk about small business Saturday.
24:21
What's going in Charlie West this Saturday. Yeah, you know, we just
24:22
we want to make sure to always our organization, along with several other organizations.
24:26
I'm sure, I want to make sure to remind everyone. You know,
24:30
Black Friday is one thing. We've seen a lot of the Black Black
24:33
Friday sales start way earlier, right, and a lot of them are online
24:36
these days. But of course it's not the big deal. That's not the
24:37
big deal that it used to be, which is probably not a bad thing,
24:41
correct, I mean, these these these businesses are doing those larger businesses
24:44
are doing well all year long. Right. But you know what we're seeing
24:47
with Small Business Saturday is a is a huge focus on that, and we're
24:51
seeing a lot of people making the choice too. Instead of you know,
24:55
running up to the big box chain hardware store, they're shopping at the local
24:59
hard store on Small Business Saturday. Or it's not just Small Business Saturday,
25:02
but throughout the year. But but the purpose of Small Business Saturday is to
25:06
shine a spotlight on all of these small businesses in hermind, folks, that
25:10
these are these are the heartbeats of our community, right, these are the
25:14
places that make us Charleston, West Virginia. Right that these these small local
25:18
businesses, whether they're restaurants, whether they're service, you know in the service
25:22
industry, whether they're the professional services, whether they're you know, breweries,
25:26
bars, whatever it may be, these are the places that make our city
25:30
what it is. Just handed out some awards last week, did you not.
25:34
We did. We had our Urban Night Award. Yeah, no,
25:37
it was great. You know. We we started this back in twenty sixteen
25:42
as a way to sort of thank the business districts, the community at large,
25:48
business owners, property owners, volunteers, artists, employees, civic leaders.
25:56
We have seven different categories we hand out awards in and uh, you
26:00
know, we started just to make sure that to reflect on the year and
26:03
think those who are really making a difference. You know, it's hard to
26:07
pick just one in each category, right, or maybe two in some cases,
26:10
because so many of these these again, these property business owners, these
26:12
volunteers, the civic leaders, they're doing so much to make our especially the
26:17
urban core of our city what it is. So you know, every year
26:22
it gets a little gets a little bigger, a crowd gets a little bigger,
26:26
we have more people getting involved with it. We do our best to
26:29
surprise all the award winners. I think this year we only had two that
26:32
that we had to tell ahead of time to make sure they got there.
26:34
We're pretty sneaky about it. We tell their family, their friends and get
26:37
them, get them to come there and surprise them during the awards. But
26:40
a c Inter National Bank has been our sponsor of that since it started,
26:41
and we definitely appreciate that and it's been it's been a huge success and we
26:45
love we love being able to do it every year. Well, it's on
26:48
the horizon for the business wise, for the city of Charleston. I mean,
26:51
there's been all kinds of talk. I know that you're in on all
26:53
the negotiations. I mean, what can we look forward to? Well,
26:57
you got to hand it on twenty twenty four, what do you what do
27:00
you got going on? Because there's been all kinds There's been announcements about you
27:03
know, the companies moving here and things of that nature. Talk about to
27:07
any of that this we mostly we mostly try to keep our finger on the
27:10
pulses. Like you know, the big announcement about the new business that's going
27:12
in where a Caskie building is, right, that's an example that's going to
27:15
be a little bit but still, I mean that's an example of keeping our
27:18
finger on the pulse on that to make sure we know, like how many
27:19
employees are going to be moving too that space. It's sort of like I'm
27:22
sure you saw the announcement about Legal Aid is going to be moving to the
27:26
Stat's Hospital building in Elk City on the west side. Right, So we're
27:27
talking this is just an example. It's sort of anecdotal, but you know,
27:30
that's fifty five employees, fifty five sets of feet that are going to
27:33
be on the street alone, not including the clients that come in, right
27:37
and so we've got to make sure that we're prepared for that, you know,
27:41
to make sure that we're doing our best or recruiting new business to come
27:45
in to show them how attractive that is to have that many professional folks that
27:48
are going to be working right there in the middle of everything that's happened in
27:52
the Ylk City District every single day, right so, you know, that
27:56
kind of thing we're constantly looking at. Of course, you know our west
28:00
Side Gateway lighting initiative. I'm sure we've I know I've been on to talk
28:03
about that in the past. You know, we are timeline for that.
28:06
We'll have that project complete by the end of winter of twenty twenty four,
28:10
so that's going to be here before we know it. Right in the middle
28:11
of phase two of that project. Our facade grant program continues to do well.
28:15
We're getting ready to evaluate our next round of applications right now. We've
28:18
already given away over twenty five thousand dollars of facade grant funds this year,
28:22
and you know, with this new newly restructured organization. We're going to be
28:26
our new working groups are going to be formed, and we're going to be
28:30
inviting members of the public to come and send in these working groups to help
28:32
shape our work plans and our strategic plan for the next three years. So
28:36
you know, it's a lot of exciting stuff coming up. We're going to
28:37
take a tiny little break here. Need I'll be honest, I need like
28:41
this a week, maybe a week and a half off at the end of
28:42
this year, and then you know, at the very beginning of the new
28:45
year, come back and be really excited about the next steps we have and
28:51
before we let you go. I think sometimes people that sometimes people don't take
28:55
into consideration that when you have these new businesses that are moving into EXAs the
29:00
location, it's probably easier if they're building a new building because you can build
29:03
what you want. But sometimes there's other things other than just okay, we
29:07
got fifty fifty workers coming in here, as you said, access to sometimes
29:11
public transportation sometimes because what we're finding, and I think this is fascinating,
29:15
is that a lot of younger people don't drive, and they and they want
29:19
to live and they want to come to areas rick, that they can ride
29:23
a bike, or that they can walk, or they can uber or they
29:26
can do whatever. That's got to be taken into consideration. Are there eateries
29:30
in the area, parking things of that nature. There's a whole lot that
29:33
goes into it other than just the job. Oh yeah, well, and
29:37
that I'll bring I'll use that as another example is like, you know,
29:40
making sure there's adequate parking for a business that has that many employees, right,
29:44
And that's something that they that they internally talk about and figure out.
29:45
And I'm sure they will and they probably already have. I'm sure they have.
29:49
But yeah, you're right. I mean, the the dynamic is shifting
29:52
a little bit. I think it took a little more time here in Charleston
29:56
for that that that that mindset to get there. But we're seeing to the
30:00
point more and more people that are wanting to live in in condos and lofts
30:03
right, you know, right that may be right right above a business.
30:06
There's several in the Ox City District Accident on the west side, you know,
30:10
one or two apartments that are above a you know, a restaurant or
30:14
a boutique or whatever. And that's becoming more and more popular because folks want
30:18
to have really close access to everything they need without having to go very far.
30:22
And we're seeing a lot of that here in Charleston, not just in
30:25
the Ox City District on the west side, but all throughout downtown East End.
30:27
We're seeing that more and more. So, yeah, that's a great
30:30
point, and I'll just say, you know, we're really excited about the
30:33
outlay of the business uh uh sort of the business community as as we approach
30:37
twenty twenty four. There are some challenges you and I have talked about those
30:40
when I've been on before. We have some buildings that we need to see
30:42
filled. That's a multi step process in some cases. You know, we
30:47
can only go so far as an organization to offer incentives and to offer education.
30:52
Property and business owners excuse me, property owners have to you know,
30:55
they have they do play a huge role in that making sure that they have
30:57
available property that that's turnkey or at least could be turnkey. We're seeing that
31:03
more and more historic buildings being transformed into spaces that are ready for you know,
31:07
a business that needs two thousand square feet, whatever the case may be.
31:10
So it's a it's an everyday process that's for sure. Well, Rick,
31:12
I appreciate you taking time at your schedule to be here. Rick cavint,
31:15
the executive director Charles and Urban Works. Have yourself a Thanksgiving, a
31:18
great Thanksgiving, and then slow down a little bit, not speaking wise,
31:22
that seems to be today, right, I feel like that I was fashion
31:26
No, No, I mean I'm at your pace in life. Just got
31:29
it slow because you're involved in so many different things from this to you know,
31:32
play and plus your dad too, that's gotta be a factored all right,
31:36
have yourself a great Thanksgiving. We'll talk to you probably for the years
31:38
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35:20
watching with interest and with horror, for lack of a better term, what's
35:22
been going on in Israel for the past month and a couple of weeks.
35:25
One of the groups has been watching things closely. There is the Faith and
35:29
Freedom Coalition. They have an active group of course here in West Virginia.
35:30
Some have been on this show, but I wanted to welcome in to this
35:34
show this morning. Tim Head, who is executive director of the North Carolina
35:37
Branch if you will, of this group they just got back from Israel.
35:40
Some others joined them as well. Kind of wanted to get a take on
35:43
that, Jim or Tim rather, I'm sorry, good morning, Welcome to
35:45
the show. Good morning, Tia. Thanks so much for having me this
35:50
morning. You're right, these are challenging days in the Middle East and certainly
35:53
in Israel, so thanks for talking about that. Absolutely, Let's start with
35:57
the broad question here, Tim, what did you see there? Well,
36:01
look, I mean I think the simple version is it's a it's a sobervering
36:06
place right now. You know. The the fascinating thing is is I think
36:08
in the middle of Yeah, I mean, it certainly applies to Israel.
36:14
But frankly, any any time in life, whenever people are experiencing irist moments,
36:19
there their greatest need. Whenever whenever somebody shows up to try to help
36:23
and to try to understand, it makes an even bigger impact than normal.
36:27
And I think I was I'm encouraged that that a lot of a lot of
36:31
Israelis are are kind of there. One one quote that really stuck with me.
36:38
A young lady who lives kind of in the southern part of Jerusalem said,
36:44
you know, We've always thought of American Christians as friends, but we
36:46
now think of them as family. And I think it's it's, you know,
36:50
whenever, whenever you show up and kind of go out of your way
36:52
to to show love and and solidarity, it really means for people when they're
36:58
going through really really hard times. Absolutely, Uh, Tim, There is
37:01
talk that there, and ABC News has been covering and Hoppy talked about it
37:07
as well on the network. There maybe uh negotiations on going as far as
37:10
the prisoners and others there go. I know you're obviously not in on the
37:14
negotiations, but what is the sense that you hear about possible negotiations when you
37:20
were there? What's the public saying about it? Well, clearly, I
37:25
think the hostage negotiation is kind of the front and front of all Israeli's minds.
37:34
It's a fairly small place. Yeah, yeah, and we hope that
37:38
that can get worked out. Why is this so important to those of us
37:45
here in America? And I say that, I know that sounds like the
37:47
most asked nine question other Tim, but but I say that because we see
37:52
things, and we have throughout my lifetime that go on on other ends of
37:55
the world, and you're thinking people have a tendency and say, well,
37:58
that doesn't necessarily affect us here in America. Why is this so important to
38:01
your organization? To you and others? You bet? You bet well.
38:06
Look, I think that there's a there's kind of a element. And then
38:08
they're also for us at faith in printic coalition is a is a biblical element.
38:13
But from the kind of strategic side, you know, UH needs friends
38:17
around the world and and frankly we don't have it, and UH and I
38:22
would I would argue that Israel maybe our closest ally certainly in the Middle East
38:29
by far to be one of the closest in the world. And so we
38:31
you know, we we actually rely on and and need need a strong and
38:37
also an autonomous Israel just because you know, in that that highly volatile area
38:43
of the world, there's not only a lot of anti Israel into anti Jewish
38:46
sentiment, but also a lot of anti American sentiment. And then from standpoint
38:52
you know, those that that hold to a Christian world. There are a
38:57
number of scriptures throughout us the New Testament they call on Christians to bless Israel
39:02
and to do tim are you there? We have a horrible phone connection with
39:13
Tim down in North Carolina. Are you there? Tim? All right?
39:19
Tim? I think we may have lost Tim, So Hollywood, Jeff,
39:22
if you can, we'll just stand by, just go ahead and kill the
39:24
call. We'll try to get him back on the show as best weekend.
39:28
Yeah, he's got to get Tim a landline down there in North Carolina wherever
39:30
it is he's calling from this morning, because the connection there was terrible,
39:37
So hopefully we'll be able to get him back on the line. And one
39:39
of the reasons I do want to get him back in the line is because
39:42
I really wanted to get his take on these anti Israeli sentiments that you see
39:46
around America, particularly on large college campuses that you see and again, I
39:53
know in this twenty four hour news cycle that it's amplified times ten thousand plus.
39:58
You've get everybody's got a platue form now with social media and so on
40:00
and so forth. But it's it's really unfortunate that we're seeing the response that
40:08
we are. And again, I don't want to I bring politics into everything,
40:12
and I don't like to Necessarily I wouldn't ask Tim this, but while
40:15
we're trying to get him back on the line, UH this morning. I
40:17
will say this that moving forward, this is going to be a problem I
40:22
think for the Democratic Party. UH next year is their answer and their response
40:28
to this, because not everybody's on board with this. I think we got
40:30
Tim back. Tim, Are you there with us now? I am.
40:34
I apologize it happens. I was just about to say, and we'll wrap
40:37
it up with this. What do you think, Tim, when you see
40:39
about the when you see the anti Israeli sentiments around the United States, particularly
40:46
college campus is larger cities. What what goes through your mind when you see
40:50
those Because they're they're certainly out there, they definitely are out there, and
40:54
and you know, unfortunately, I think what we're seeing is that they may
40:58
may have been kind of latent, you know, a dormant out there,
41:00
but whenever something that's flickered its it's made those recesses become more more pronounced.
41:08
Here here's the deal. You know, I think that that not only is
41:12
anti Semitism broadly extremely problematic. You know, we obviously are well aware of
41:19
the nineteen forties, but the centiment behind that as as dangerous as anti Semitism
41:23
is. The sentiment behind that really is extraordinarily dangerous, and so I think
41:30
that we need to do everything we can to to kind of push back and
41:35
keep that at bay, because you know, frankly, it's just a very
41:38
very destructive worldview and a way of thinking and certainly a way of acting,
41:44
you know, in civil society and on college campuses, and so we you
41:46
know, we appreciate opportunities like this to be able to express our support for
41:52
the Jewish people and for Israel. Tim Hand, as the executive director of
41:55
the North Carolina branch of this group, Tim, I appreciate you taking time
41:59
out of your sched Joel, have a happy Thanksgiving and we will will be
42:02
in touch. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Thank you so much.
42:06
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42:36
they brought into symphony in care to the Palestinians in Gozam. I think that
42:42
pretty much answers itself. Texas. Jews, Muslims are Christians, worship the
42:47
same God. Do you think that God is looking down saying, yea,
42:51
this is the chaos I want carried out in my name? Do you think
42:53
God cares who governs Israel? Well, you know, I'm not going to
42:58
get into a religious discussion because I am certainly not qualified to do so.
43:04
I consider myself to be a Christian. I like most Christians, I am
43:07
way imperfect, way imperfect. But you know, I just never thought.
43:15
I guess maybe this is just me and me and dumb country boy naive.
43:17
I never thought that I would see in America the anti Israeli movement that we
43:28
see at America. I don't know that you would have seen it twenty five
43:30
years ago. I really don't. And it just takes me by surprise.
43:35
You know, at this age in my life, you know, Jeff,
43:37
nothing should surprise me. Anymore. But I guess maybe I was just taken
43:44
aback by the whole thing. And I watch a lot of news, as
43:46
you can imagine, and what I watch primarily is not Fox News. As
43:51
a matter of fact, I do not watch Fox News at all other than
43:53
well, okay, I like The Five because I think gut Fiel's funny.
43:58
But other than that, the majority of the news I digest is I try
44:02
to find stuff middle of the road as best I can. But if I'm
44:06
going to lean one side or the other, I tend to wanna I tend
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to want to follow maybe a little bit more liberal news source. It's just
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because I can kind of get in the minds of people and see what they're
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thinking, you know, and see maybe a different perspective. Know that's a
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very very odd thing. But even some of them, even like the Bill
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Mahers of the world. I'm a big fan of Bill Maher and I watch
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the show every week, and even the Bill Maher, who is like the
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super super super liberal, are saying, what the heck is going on here?
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I mean, with this anti Israeli sentiment, it's it's amazing, Texas
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anti Israeli sentiments do not equate to anti Semitism. A person doesn't automatically hate
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Jews if they think Israel is a criminal state. According to a texture Texas,
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the Palestinians are the ones who produce the murderous terrorists. According to a
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texture. All right, I got some more texts to get to, some
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more things in the news to get you, including the latest on the gas
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situation on the West Side. We'll take a break. We're back after this.
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friend Jim? Hello, Jim, good Dave? Are you? I'm fine?
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Man? Where you been? Well? I've just been busy taking care
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I put me that to play the machines. But anyway, there was the
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remember my days of that is possible, all right, Well, Jim will
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certainly take that under consideration. Happy Thanksgiving man, big plans for Thanksgiving.
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Saint Mary's recuperating, but she is going to be Okay, as far as
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we know, so this is going to be I'm fouandful for Thanksgiving, but
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no big plan. All right, Well, enjoy whatever you do, Jim,
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and we'll talk again soon. I appreciate it. Man, Thanks a
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lot. It is four minutes away from ten. Quickly onto the gas crisis.
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As of last night, at least eight hundred and twenty five customers of
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Mountaineer Gas had their service turned back on. Now that doesn't mean that they're
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back to normal because now many of the residents their appliances, to furnaces,
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what not have to be totally replaced. Mountaineer Gas Senior vice president Moses Scaff
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was on Hoppy yesterday and says as of yesterday about eighty percent of the forty
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six miles of pipe that were filled with water had been drained. Now,
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mister Scaff said that they will probably be at one hundred percent by living this
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week. But again, the real issue is replacing the appliances and whatnot.
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The gas company and their contractors are taking care of that, by the way,
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And if you go back and you listen to the interview that Hoppy did
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with Moses Scaff, which, by the way, you could do with the
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Metro and news site. Mister Scaff was hesitant. I thought this was interesting.
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I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday afternoon who asked me if
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I had heard the interview that Hoppy did with Moses Scaff yesterday, and I
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said yes. My friend said, well, was that not the most dramatic
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pause in the history of radio? And I said yeah, And it was
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when Hoppy asked mister Scaff about the gas companies conversations with Western and American Water,
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and it was. It was a pretty long dramatic pause there before mister
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Scaff basically said, it's not what it should be. That's kind of what
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I'm reading into it. And then I'm not throwing stones here, or maybe
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I am. But has anyone else noticed how most of Scaff has been on
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the show and on hobbying and paper TV news. He's been everywhere talking about
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this situation. I don't know mister staff personallyouldn't know if he walked through the
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door right now, but he was on my show last week. He's been
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a hobby been on the news West Virginia, American Water has been all but
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mia in this whole mess. Now, once everyone is back online, whenever
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that is, that's when the real fund begins, because then there are going
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to be a lot of questions to answer. Mayor Goodwin said last night that
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the next step, once everyone is back online, will be to find out
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how this happened, to make sure it never happens again. Complaints have been
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filed already with the Public Service Commission. The only statement really I've heard from
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West Virginia American Water has been we will cooperate, et cetera, et cetera.
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The governor wants answers the residents. The residents the most important people of
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all this. Forget about the media and the governor and every I mean,
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the residents are the most important part of this. The residents want answers to
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I liketed officials. Everybody wants because as a total outsider here, it looks
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like Mountaineer gases out here doing all the work and trying to answer questions and
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come up with solutions or problems that they didn't create. Me do better,
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West Virginia American Water, do better. It's a pattern better, all right.
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I did not get to all the texts. I will do my best
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to try to correct that tomorrow and tomorrow show actually offered glass from the Putnam
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Wonderland Toy Drive. And just got confirmation that Larry Moore, who's the city
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councilman who himself has been without guest service, lives on the West Side.
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Larry Moore is going to be on the show tomorrow as well. Enjoy this
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rainy Thursday, Be careful on the roads. I will see you tomorrow.
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