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Credlin | 20 May · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: tonight on Kredline. The backlash only intensifying. News today that
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Speaker 2: Labor will move to ran through tax legislation on capital
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Speaker 2: gains and negative gearing in the next sitting fortnite. But
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Speaker 2: the property market's already on the slide anger is palpable,
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Speaker 2: So this just shows panic from a government trying to
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Speaker 2: stem the political bleed. Speculation that Paul and Hanson will
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Speaker 2: now run for a Lower House seat at the next election,
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Speaker 2: but it's the same seat we're told being eyed off
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Speaker 2: by the National leaders Matt Canabad. Plus the heartening public
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Speaker 2: response from you, all of you have stepped in to
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Speaker 2: support the family of fallen VC hero Cameron Beard after
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Speaker 2: the Albanezer government acts funding for his mum and dad
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Speaker 2: to carry out education campaigns to honor him. A big
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Speaker 2: update on that shortly and that last horde of ice
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Speaker 2: a swimmen in Syria reportedly returning to Australia within days.
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Speaker 2: Don't look to Labor for answer, as they say nothing.
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Speaker 3: To do with us any Australian government. You know, Labor
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Speaker 3: liberal made up of Martians has very limited constitutional power
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Speaker 3: to prevent citizens of Australia for returning.
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Speaker 4: But we'll get to all those excuses in a moment.
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Speaker 2: But first, the wheels are really coming off the budget
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Speaker 2: and fast, and it's now coming under attack even from
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Speaker 2: those inside labor. Here is one of their own New
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Speaker 2: South Wales Premier Chris Mens today on the insidious nature
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Speaker 2: of bracket creep.
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Speaker 5: Well, look, I mean, whether it's in this budget or
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Speaker 5: it's in the future, we do need to make sure
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Speaker 5: that we're doing everything we can to ham more money
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Speaker 5: back to working Australia. As the top marginal rate of
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Speaker 5: forty seven percent, as I said in Parliament last week,
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Speaker 5: you're working Monday, Tuesday and half of Wednesday for yourself
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Speaker 5: and then Wednesday, Thursday and Friday for the government. That's
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Speaker 5: it's it's a tough burden for a lot of families
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Speaker 5: to hit.
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Speaker 2: Now, why this is so important to highlight tonight is
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Speaker 2: that the Party of Premium Mins has no answer on
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Speaker 2: bracket creep. Instead, it's the Liberals and Angus Taylor the
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Speaker 2: only ones prepared to take the tough decisions to fix
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Speaker 2: it by indexing income tax rates so that they move
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Speaker 2: in line with inflation, so that real wage it is
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Speaker 2: stay real because if left as they are now, where
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Speaker 2: tax rates do not move with inflation, wages might increase.
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Speaker 2: That increase means more tax, meaning the take home pay
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Speaker 2: the worker goes backwards in real terms. Now, why wouldn't
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Speaker 2: label want to fix this, you ask me, Well, because
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Speaker 2: lazy treasurers don't want to index tax rates because every
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Speaker 2: time you work harder and you're tipped into the next
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Speaker 2: tax bracket, that extra tax you pay lands in their
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Speaker 2: lap as a windfall gain money. They didn't have to
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Speaker 2: make a tough decision to save, just extra money that
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Speaker 2: they can spend your money. For a government addicted to spending,
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Speaker 2: Angus Taylor is the only leader who's prepared to forego
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Speaker 2: this extra revenue to let you keep more of your money.
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Speaker 2: And Chris Mins, well, he knows that. For a long time,
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Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers has fancied himself as a leadership heir to
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi. But just as Albanasi has
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Speaker 2: taken a huge reputational hit from the lies that are
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Speaker 2: in this budget, so too is Charmers. Every day he's
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Speaker 2: looking a little bit sliprier, a little bit more tricky
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Speaker 2: than ever. Each day he's under more and more pressure
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Speaker 2: to justify a whole raft of budget decisions that just
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Speaker 2: don't stand up to scrutiny. Decisions that might have been
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Speaker 2: pushed through a compliant cabinet full of MPs who don't
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Speaker 2: get it because they lack real world experience, but decisions
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Speaker 2: that they're amongst people who know the value of a dollar,
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Speaker 2: or they fall over at the first intellectual hurdle. That's
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Speaker 2: why more and more Chalmers looks like damaged goods, and
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Speaker 2: his slick Willie persona isn't helping him either.
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Speaker 6: It's best not to listen to the scare campaigns from
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Speaker 6: people who have a partisan or a commercial interest in this.
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Speaker 6: We're making sensible, common sense changes. So five different times,
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Speaker 6: in three different ways. This is a government which cuts
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Speaker 6: in comesaxes. So last time we went into the Parliament
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Speaker 6: to cutting come taxes, the Liberals and Nationals voted against it.
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Speaker 2: Not only he's the only one who understands better than
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Speaker 2: numbers that sit behind some of these budget changes, but
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Speaker 2: he can't explain it. Listen to this question from a
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Speaker 2: journalist at the National Press Club today.
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Speaker 4: This is really interesting.
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Speaker 2: This follow the speech by the Shadow Treasurerer Tim Wilson
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Speaker 2: this afternoon.
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Speaker 7: Are you fundamentally okay with someone selling an investment or
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Speaker 7: a business, or shares or crypto and being taxed at
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Speaker 7: a lower rate than a nurse or a teacher and
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Speaker 7: half the rate of a coal miner.
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Speaker 4: Now you heard the question.
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Speaker 8: This was Wilson's response, People buy assets with post tax
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Speaker 8: income like this seems to be completely forgotten in a
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Speaker 8: lot of the conversation.
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Speaker 2: Spot on, Tim Wilson, absolutely spot on. That point seems
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Speaker 2: to be forgotten by many, particularly those we elect in Canberra,
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Speaker 2: because they are trying to paint anyone with an investment,
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Speaker 2: property or even modest savings is somehow filthy rich. Now,
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Speaker 2: most of the assets that Australians have are assets they
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Speaker 2: have bought with post tax dollars money that's already been
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Speaker 2: hit by our high income tax rates, some of the
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Speaker 2: highest paid anywhere in the world, So hitting these assets again,
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Speaker 2: So paying tax when they are sold as well as
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Speaker 2: the tax we've all paid to buy them in the
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Speaker 2: first place. Well that's a little better than double taxation,
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Speaker 2: or at the very least the latest manifestation of the
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Speaker 2: politics of envy that so eats Labor alive, not forgetting
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Speaker 2: that most of the alban Easy front bench that waved
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Speaker 2: through these tax heights through cabinet, or they're hypocrites given
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Speaker 2: the number of investment properties they all own, including the
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Speaker 2: PM of course, and that four million dollar beach shack.
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Speaker 4: Look.
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Speaker 2: Last night, many of you saw my interview with mister
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Speaker 2: Doug Baird, the proud father of the late Corporal Cameron Baird,
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Speaker 2: an Australian commando killed in action in Afghanistan and posthumously
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Speaker 2: awarded the Victoria Cross for his gallantry. Now, since his
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Speaker 2: son's death that the request of the then Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: at the time, Tony Abbott, Doug and his wife Kay
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Speaker 2: have received help from the Department of Veteran's Affairs to
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Speaker 2: cover their modest travel costs. They attend RSLs, schools and
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Speaker 2: community events to talk about the sacrifice of their son
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Speaker 2: and why a life of service still matters. And when
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Speaker 2: I say that their costs are modest, we are talking
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Speaker 2: here about three to five thousand dollars at most a year.
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Speaker 2: And yet in another budget Shoka last week, Labor ripped
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Speaker 2: this money from the beards and in doing so, in
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Speaker 2: my view and the view of so many of you
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Speaker 2: greatly dishonored the memory of Corporal Bed.
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Speaker 9: I guess it was a little bit of shock because
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Speaker 9: I wasn't expecting it. I thought, you know, there's probably
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Speaker 9: got to be a little bit more to it than this.
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Speaker 9: But both Cay and myself were extremely disappointed as we
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Speaker 9: thought it through.
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Speaker 2: And it gets worse before it gets better, because as
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Speaker 2: I said last night, I bet the minister who made
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Speaker 2: this dreadful decision he isn't shy when it comes to
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Speaker 2: spending taxpayer money on himself. And we'll lo and behold
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Speaker 2: how right I was, because checking the entitlement records today
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Speaker 2: I discovered this that Labour's Matt Keo, the minister who
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Speaker 2: shafted Doug and k Baird, spent a whopping three hundred
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Speaker 2: and sixty one thousand dollars on himself in just the
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Speaker 2: first three months of this year January, February and March.
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Speaker 2: This is what the veterans minister spent on his own travel,
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Speaker 2: his flights and hotels, and we're not even there including
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Speaker 2: his salary in the three hundred and sixty one thousand.
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Speaker 2: His salary is another three hundred and eighty thousand a
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Speaker 2: year on top of what he's spending on entilaments. So
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Speaker 2: let's tease out that entitlement bill a little more, because
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Speaker 2: if KEO is spending three hundred and sixty thousand in
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Speaker 2: three months alone, that would mean his travel and other
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Speaker 2: costs would be close to one and a half million
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Speaker 2: dollars a year. One and a half million dollars. And
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Speaker 2: this is the bloke that ripped five thousand dollars off
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Speaker 2: Doug and k Bird. This is where Keo's shocking insults
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Speaker 2: now a test for the Prime Minister. Will he step
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Speaker 2: in and reverse it? He can and he must. Now
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Speaker 2: I know that Tony Abbott, who made the original decision
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Speaker 2: to give the late Cameron Bird's travel entailment to his
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Speaker 2: mum and his dad, well he's going to fight this
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Speaker 2: all the way with Alban easy. So my advice to
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's this, this is not a fight you
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Speaker 2: want to pick with Tony Abbott. Believe me, five thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars to honor a fall and VC warrior who died
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Speaker 2: fighting Islamist extremism in Afghanistan at the same time as
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Speaker 2: you are bringing back to Australia Islamic state, women and children.
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Speaker 2: I would fix this fast mister Alban easy before Tony,
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Speaker 2: it gets you in the ring. Now I would say
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Speaker 2: I did say, Deny that it gets worse before it
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Speaker 2: gets better.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's the bad. He's the better. Last night, after.
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Speaker 2: Doug's interview, I reported this thank you to my very
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Speaker 2: generous Doughnut Air, the viewer who watched that story about
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Speaker 2: Cameron Bird's parents having their money. They're five thousand dollars cut.
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Speaker 2: That will stop them traveling to RSLs around the country.
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Speaker 2: That has now been repaired.
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Speaker 4: It's now ten k from his.
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Speaker 2: Pocket because he believes, he says, in this country and
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Speaker 2: our veterans, well, that wonderful man who messaged me last
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Speaker 2: night is Victorian Andrew Abercrombie. He cares deeply about our country.
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Speaker 2: He cares deeply about military service, and he was ashamed
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Speaker 2: to see that Doug and k Baird were put in
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Speaker 2: this position by an Australian government. So he put his
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Speaker 2: hand up. And he's not the only one. Another good man,
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Speaker 2: a city stockbroker and Goerzeiken is also pledged support. That
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Speaker 2: was reported today in the Daily Telegraph. When I got home,
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Speaker 2: I then worked through my emails from you, and.
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Speaker 4: I've got hundreds of them.
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Speaker 2: You, my viewers, also making contact, wanting to show your
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Speaker 2: support for the family of Cameron Bird and the memory
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Speaker 2: of this incredibly brave soldier. So yet again you restore
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Speaker 2: my faith in humanity and I hope this shows each
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Speaker 2: of you that the Australia we all love, the Australia
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Speaker 2: that we value, has not disappeared, certainly not amongst those
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Speaker 2: who watched this program every night. A little bit later
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Speaker 2: in the show, I'll we joined again by Doug Baird
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Speaker 2: and we'll get his reaction to your collective generosity. He'll
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Speaker 2: also have something to say about how he and Kay
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Speaker 2: will continue now to honor the memory of their warrior son, Cameron.
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Speaker 4: Bird vc MG. Lest we forget.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Camber now for the headlines.
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Speaker 2: Skynia's political reporter Ribbon.
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Speaker 10: Spargo dozens of small businesses. They're accusing the Prime Minister
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Speaker 10: of ambushing them with new taxes. Forty founders under forty,
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Speaker 10: telling Anthony Albanesi in an open letter rather than back us,
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Speaker 10: you've ambushed us. Changes to the CGT discount will suck
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Speaker 10: the ambition, drive and hope out of the hearts of
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Speaker 10: young business builders nationwide.
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Speaker 6: The four existing concessions and carveouts for small business in
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Speaker 6: the CGT system will remain.
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Speaker 11: I don't acknowledge that, but they should.
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Speaker 8: Are we still the nation of the fair go, where
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Speaker 8: Australians have a future built on aspiration, cooperation and shared nationhood.
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Speaker 10: The Coalition is reviving itself as the Parties of Small
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Speaker 10: Business following the Albanese government's recent budget. The new South
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Speaker 10: Wales Premier is telling the Federal Treasurer to let Australians
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Speaker 10: keep more of their hard earned cash.
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Speaker 5: Top marginal rate at forty seven percent, it's a tough
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Speaker 5: burden for a lot of families to hit.
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Speaker 10: The Coalition is pledging to index the tax brackets if
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Speaker 10: it wins the next election, and it seems a growing
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Speaker 10: list of labor heavyweights agree. Sky News understands Pauline Hansen
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Speaker 10: is considering moving her electorate offers to Yapoon on the
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Speaker 10: central Queensland coast. It's within the Nationals held electorate of Capricornia.
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Speaker 10: She may leave the Senate to run for the seat
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Speaker 10: at the next election.
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Speaker 12: Maybe we know the answer now to why she needed
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Speaker 12: a flame because she wants to be a flying FLO representative.
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Speaker 13: I moved my entype fairly out.
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Speaker 10: There, there's speculation the Nationals leader could also contest the seat.
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Speaker 4: Interesting there in your pon, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: Let's go down to a whole lot of other issues,
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Speaker 2: particularly the budget. The backlash that's the worst according to
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Speaker 2: any budget we've had since the Keyting era. We've learned
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Speaker 2: this afternoon in the Albanizi government set to try and
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Speaker 2: ram through these tax grabs on capital gains and investment
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Speaker 2: properties in the upcoming city fortnite. Now we'll assume here
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Speaker 2: that Labour's got the support of the Greens. But this
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Speaker 2: political calculation being made by the Prime Minister is so
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Speaker 2: that I suspect he can get this done quick and
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Speaker 2: get this issue out of the headlines. He thinks that's
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Speaker 2: going to fix things. I don't think he's right. I
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Speaker 2: don't think this will be the end of it at all.
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Speaker 2: Johnmy Now Sky is reporter Carolyn Marcus and a host
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Speaker 2: on Sky Jamie Rodgers.
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Speaker 4: Ladies, welcome Carol.
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Speaker 2: As I said there, I think he's hoping he can
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Speaker 2: ram this through the Parliament, get it out of the headlines,
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Speaker 2: we'll all move on and forget. But of course we
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Speaker 2: saw on the weekend already we've got the real time
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Speaker 2: impacts of the property market, auction results falling off a cliff.
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Speaker 2: Previously labor under ketting try this, they had to reverse
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Speaker 2: it within eighteen months. It feels like to me, we've
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Speaker 2: got history repeating itself.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: Well, back in nineteen eighty five, the whole Keyton government
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Speaker 14: try to abolish negative gearing, but what happened was rental
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Speaker 14: prices and Sydney went up. There were rental shortages, and
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Speaker 14: they had to reverse the changes just two years later.
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Speaker 14: And yet the government now claims it's trying to help
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Speaker 14: young people get on the housing market. How about all
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Speaker 14: the young people that rely on rental properties because they
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Speaker 14: can't afford homes and likely won't be able to afford them,
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Speaker 14: won't be able to build wealth with what's happening with
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Speaker 14: the tax changes.
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Speaker 4: How is this going to help them?
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Speaker 14: You know, I think the move to just ram this
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Speaker 14: through within the next couple of weeks is really telling
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Speaker 14: because it means that won't be much time for any
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Speaker 14: potential Senate inquiry that would really scrutinize the impact that
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Speaker 14: these changes would have in You're right, it's already led
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Speaker 14: to the lowest clearance rates in the property auction market
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Speaker 14: in Sydney last week just three out of ten houses sold,
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Speaker 14: So that just shows you how it's already having an effect.
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Speaker 14: And this means that if they just ram it through,
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Speaker 14: no one is going to be able to hold the
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Speaker 14: government account properly accountable because there's going to be a
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Speaker 14: winter break and no time for a proper Senate inquiry
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Speaker 14: to really look at these issues. So I think that's
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Speaker 14: very suspicious and it doesn't say much about this transparency
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Speaker 14: that the government campaigned on all the way back in
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Speaker 14: twenty twenty two, does it.
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Speaker 2: Well, it was supposed to open up all of these
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Speaker 2: new housing opportunities for young people, but if you're saying
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Speaker 2: they're the only three out of ten homes sold, you've
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Speaker 2: got a whole lot of homes going bigging. There's not
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Speaker 2: new buyers in the market there, and of course for
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Speaker 2: every buyer, every young person who can't get into a home,
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Speaker 2: you've got a whole lot of people now who own
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Speaker 2: homes who may want to sell homes or at least
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Speaker 2: want to know that the value they thought was in
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Speaker 2: their home is actually in their home. But also after
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Speaker 2: these changes, Jamie, they'll be all thinking that basically the
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Speaker 2: prime Minister's cut the value of their property. And there's
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Speaker 2: a lot more people that own homes are cranky. Then
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Speaker 2: their biggest asset now has been devalued with these changes.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's certainly a mess, isn't it, Peter. And there
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Speaker 15: was a story today that if you go and buy
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Speaker 15: and already build property, you're going to be about two
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Speaker 15: hundred and fifty thousand dollars worse off over a ten
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Speaker 15: year period. Now, the problem with this is wealthy investors
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Speaker 15: are now going to be pursuing the new buildings, which
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Speaker 15: is where first home buyers tend to go as well.
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Speaker 15: So there's not a lot of stock of new properties
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Speaker 15: being built at the moment because as we know, construction
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Speaker 15: costs are going through the roof. There's a shortage of tradees.
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Speaker 15: So what happens then a short supply, The prices are
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Speaker 15: going to go up, and banks like mcquarie Bank have
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Speaker 15: already come out saying they've advised their mortgage brokers to
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Speaker 15: start telling people when you are coming in for a loan,
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Speaker 15: we can no longer look at negative gearing to see
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Speaker 15: if you can service that loan. And as a result,
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Speaker 15: people's borrowing capacity is already been significantly reduced, but also
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Speaker 15: West Back have been saying that their investment loans are
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Speaker 15: already going to be starting to see about a twenty
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Speaker 15: percent reduction there as well. And as you mentioned in
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Speaker 15: your editorial, the hypocrisy that's coming through from this labor
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Speaker 15: government where twenty out of twenty three of the cabinet
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Speaker 15: ministers have at least two properties. They're knocking the ladder
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Speaker 15: down behind them for this next generation that want to
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Speaker 15: come through and start to build their own wealth. There's
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Speaker 15: so many flow on effects of these consequences of what
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Speaker 15: are going through, and it's just such a shame that
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Speaker 15: Albanzi didn't have the guts to take it through to
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Speaker 15: an election and instead is pushing through with the changes urgently.
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Speaker 2: And the memes too, Carol, I mean, he tried to
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Speaker 2: laugh that off, and he did that again today. But
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Speaker 2: of course his strategists, let me tell you, behind the scenes,
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Speaker 2: they will be quite panicked by how viral it's all
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Speaker 2: gone in terms of the Prime Minister being involved in
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Speaker 2: these businesses with basically his hand in the till.
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Speaker 14: How smug and out of touch is Albanesi to just,
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Speaker 14: you know, respond to this. The very legitimate fear that
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Speaker 14: young business owners and all business owners really small and
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Speaker 14: medium have over these proposed over these changes by saying, oh,
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Speaker 14: I'm flattered that they decided to use nice pictures. Well,
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Speaker 14: first of all, Prime Minister, let me tell you that's
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Speaker 14: not really what you look like. AI can make anyone
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Speaker 14: look good. So that's point number one. Point number two
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Speaker 14: is of course he would really be worried, and he's
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Speaker 14: putting on a brave face because for the first time
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Speaker 14: we're really seeing or in a first time in a
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Speaker 14: very long time, we're seeing business people really mobilize and
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Speaker 14: speak up politically. I mean people like boost Juice's founder
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Speaker 14: Jane Ellis has come out she doesn't give political statements
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Speaker 14: criticizing the government. We saw forty founders under the age
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Speaker 14: of forty pen and open letter to the Prime Minister
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Speaker 14: describing these tax changes as an ambition ambush and saying
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Speaker 14: they're not going to help people young people, They're just
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Speaker 14: going to just keep down young pe people's ambition and drive.
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Speaker 15: So I think this is.
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Speaker 14: Not flattering at all for the Prime Minister and he's
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Speaker 14: going to have to wake up to it and take
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Speaker 14: it a little bit more seriously.
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Speaker 2: What about this report from my colleague Karen Gilbert a
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Speaker 2: bit earlier in the afternoon that Pauline Hanson's considering a
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Speaker 2: tilt for a Lower House seat. We're aware of that,
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Speaker 2: but we know the seat now. It's the seat of Capricornia.
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Speaker 2: It's been held by a National MP and L and
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Speaker 2: p and Peter sits in the National Party room. Michelle Landry,
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Speaker 2: Matt Canavan lives in Yepoon.
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Speaker 4: There's talk if you're moving to the Lower House.
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Speaker 2: He's been eyeing off this seat, we're told for some time. Well,
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Speaker 2: this is where she is now going to put her
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Speaker 2: elected officer, we're told in Ypoon, which looks like then
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Speaker 2: she'll run for the seat of Capricornia. And we've also
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Speaker 2: got more talk that Barnaby Joyce will now run for
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Speaker 2: One Nation in New England.
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Speaker 15: Jamie, Yeah, so I was watching that today. Peter when
21:00
Speaker 15: here and was breaking the news that Pauline Hansen was
21:03
Speaker 15: moving her office to yupun and my first thought was
21:06
Speaker 15: the fact, I don't want to see her going up
21:08
Speaker 15: against either a Liberal or a National because it's sort
21:10
Speaker 15: of defeating the purpose of what we're all trying to
21:13
Speaker 15: do here where unite the right.
21:15
Speaker 4: I would have loved to.
21:15
Speaker 15: Have seen Pauline eyeing off for a strong laboorhold because
21:18
Speaker 15: they're the seats that we really need to be winning
21:21
Speaker 15: in order to defeat Labor at the next election. So
21:24
Speaker 15: I hope, I really do hope she doesn't go up
21:27
Speaker 15: in that seat and perhaps finds another one. I think
21:29
Speaker 15: it would be great to see her in the lower House,
21:31
Speaker 15: but just go for a seat that is already held
21:33
Speaker 15: by a Labor or some other independent. Let's keep all
21:37
Speaker 15: the right seats together so that we can work together
21:39
Speaker 15: and actually defeat Labor. But it has been interesting, Peter,
21:42
Speaker 15: you mentioned it earlier in your program, just regarding staffing
21:45
Speaker 15: when it does come to Pauline Hanson, and she put
21:49
Speaker 15: out on social media she's had to turn to social
21:51
Speaker 15: because she is so desperate when it comes to staff.
21:53
Speaker 15: So she's got two advisors and she said on social
21:56
Speaker 15: that her office has just been inundated with messages and
22:00
Speaker 15: emails and people that are really concerned with the cost
22:03
Speaker 15: of living, and she had to apologize that she hasn't
22:05
Speaker 15: been able to get back to them. Now one of
22:07
Speaker 15: her staff, who are extremely stressed and has been struggling,
22:11
Speaker 15: wrote herself to the Prime Minister to say, please can
22:14
Speaker 15: we have more staff, and the Prime Minister just completely
22:18
Speaker 15: ignored her. Now, for context, with Pauline having two advisors,
22:22
Speaker 15: for comparison, the Prime Minister has fifty nine and Larissa Waters,
22:26
Speaker 15: who's the Greens leader, has fifteen. So I know that
22:29
Speaker 15: Pauline doesn't have as many people and candidates as compared
22:33
Speaker 15: to the others. But still she's growing and she's getting there.
22:36
Speaker 15: But the fact that Alberizias slashed all of these roles
22:40
Speaker 15: within opposition oppositions departments I think is so vindictive. Peter,
22:47
Speaker 15: you've been in there yourself, you know what it's like.
22:49
Speaker 15: But I just think it is such a vindictive move
22:51
Speaker 15: to ensure that the Opposition are short staff because they're
22:55
Speaker 15: not going to have the personnel to continue to prosecute
22:58
Speaker 15: the case against you, And I think it just shows
23:00
Speaker 15: he sees that all these other parties are a threat.
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Speaker 2: Well, the Prime Minister, of course, has got about two
23:06
Speaker 2: hundred public servants down the hill who work for him,
23:09
Speaker 2: as well as the fifty nine staff, and I might
23:10
Speaker 2: add that's larger than any prime minister I know in
23:13
Speaker 2: recent memories, certainly bigger than well everyone I.
23:16
Speaker 4: Know going back to the Howard era.
23:19
Speaker 2: So fifty nine is a lot and to cut those
23:21
Speaker 2: numbers from Pauline Hansen, what says to me is running
23:24
Speaker 2: scared too about what she'll do with that extra staff.
23:27
Speaker 2: Let's hope she gets them. We'll see, I might add.
23:30
Speaker 2: You know, the only other person I know from one
23:31
Speaker 2: nation who lives in Yrpoon is James Ashby. So maybe
23:36
Speaker 2: this office is about James Ashby running for Capriccorneer and
23:40
Speaker 2: Pauline or run for another seat. We will see you,
23:43
Speaker 2: won't we. I'll over it there. Thank you both. Let's
23:46
Speaker 2: go down to that story I mentioned there at the
23:48
Speaker 2: top of the show. A very humbling an extraordinary response
23:52
Speaker 2: from you to the story I brought you last night.
23:55
Speaker 2: Dark and k Baird have spent years honoring their son,
23:58
Speaker 2: Cameron's legacy through visits to school, rules, to ourselves, and
24:01
Speaker 2: to commemorative events across Australia. Cameron was one of Australia's
24:06
Speaker 2: bravest soldiers, a member of the elite Second Commander Regiment,
24:10
Speaker 2: killed in action on his fifth deployment to Afghanistan in
24:13
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen and posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross for his valor.
24:19
Speaker 2: Early this month, the Bears learned that the Albanezy government
24:22
Speaker 2: would cut their modest fundy that was granted to them
24:26
Speaker 2: to help honor their son and the service of all veterans.
24:31
Speaker 2: But after our story aired last night, viewers across the country,
24:34
Speaker 2: including philanthropists and Victoria and Sydney or they have offered
24:39
Speaker 2: to fund the work of Doug and Kay to honor
24:42
Speaker 2: Cameron indefinitely. I'm pleased to say Doug Bear joins me
24:46
Speaker 2: again tonight from the Gold Coast. Doug, Welcome to the program.
24:51
Speaker 2: Last night we talked of your disappointment. Tonight it's a
24:54
Speaker 2: much happier story. I mean, an extraordinary public response. Our
25:00
Speaker 2: donations flooding in. I have email upon email, some wanting
25:04
Speaker 2: to meet the cost of all of your travel, others
25:06
Speaker 2: wanting to make a contribution. They want to keep Cameron's
25:10
Speaker 2: memory alive. How does that make you and k feel?
25:16
Speaker 13: Yeah?
25:17
Speaker 1: Good evening anyway, But look, we feel extremely humble. That's
25:21
Speaker 1: been absolutely overwhelming. It was something that we weren't expecting.
25:25
Speaker 1: We knew that there was a lot of support or
25:27
Speaker 1: Cameron out there, but we just didn't know whether people
25:31
Speaker 1: would come forward and do what they've done.
25:34
Speaker 13: It's just it's beyond belief in some ways.
25:37
Speaker 1: It's like the government has stirred the sleeping giant and
25:42
Speaker 1: for the sake of three or five thousand dollars, that's
25:45
Speaker 1: now It now makes them look a little bit on
25:47
Speaker 1: the silly side.
25:48
Speaker 13: So yeah, we're oh, you're not right happy with that.
25:52
Speaker 13: We're very pleased, very pleased.
25:56
Speaker 4: So what can you tell.
25:57
Speaker 2: Us now, because I understand you're looking at a permanent
25:59
Speaker 2: foundation to establish that in Cameron's name.
26:06
Speaker 5: Yeah.
26:06
Speaker 1: Look, some people may remember, going back a few years
26:10
Speaker 1: or so, we actually started the original charity for Cameron
26:14
Speaker 1: called Cam's Cause. I was the president of that for
26:19
Speaker 1: about eight or nine years. I decided to step down
26:21
Speaker 1: and let another younger member take it over, thinking that
26:25
Speaker 1: he would do the right thing, but unfortunately he didn't.
26:30
Speaker 1: He had some people come in and they took positions
26:32
Speaker 1: on the board and they decided that they wanted to
26:36
Speaker 1: rebrand the Camp's Cause and they really didn't want to
26:39
Speaker 1: have Cameron or the Bad Family associated with it in
26:41
Speaker 1: any major way. So that got changed over and they
26:47
Speaker 1: run their own show now, which is pretty ordinary. So
26:52
Speaker 1: we decided, after about a twelve months think that we
26:56
Speaker 1: would get a charity again in Cameron's name, and now
27:00
Speaker 1: it's now registered as a non for profit tax deductible
27:03
Speaker 1: charity and it's the Cameron bed vc MG Foundation. It's
27:09
Speaker 1: through the Bendigo Bank Backismash Victoria and the BSB number
27:13
Speaker 1: if anybody wants to make donations is six double THREEO
27:18
Speaker 1: and the account number is two to four to oh
27:22
Speaker 1: one one for seven O two. And that has its
27:26
Speaker 1: official launch on the twenty second of June at the
27:29
Speaker 1: Australian War Memorial And it's a very a very pride
27:34
Speaker 1: place for us to be and to do it there.
27:35
Speaker 13: It's just an absolute honor.
27:37
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're moving forward in a positive manner to
27:40
Speaker 1: look after the much needed help for vets. When you
27:43
Speaker 1: think of what's happened, things like the Invictors Games. Invictors
27:46
Speaker 1: Games are so important to so many people, people that
27:49
Speaker 1: I talk to, and you know, I have a very
27:52
Speaker 1: passion for that one, just like the Vesta, because it
27:55
Speaker 1: means a lot to them. It gives them, It gives
27:57
Speaker 1: them a positive outlook, attitude to be involved in a
28:02
Speaker 1: team environment. They share their problems, they look and they
28:06
Speaker 1: have that funding just taken away. It's a god, that's
28:10
Speaker 1: the worst thing I think I've heard in a long
28:12
Speaker 1: long time, so I'd say shame on this government for
28:15
Speaker 1: doing that. DBA needs to look at himself real bad.
28:20
Speaker 2: Well, I obeyed it very clear tonight. Of course, the
28:22
Speaker 2: minister in charge your veterans affairs, he's not shy but
28:26
Speaker 2: putting his hand in our pocket, in the taxpayer pocket.
28:29
Speaker 2: Three hundred and sixty one thousand dollars he's spent on
28:32
Speaker 2: his own travel, his own hotel rooms for January, February
28:36
Speaker 2: and March this year alone. It dwarfs you all five
28:39
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Let me tell you, I'm going to put
28:42
Speaker 2: that Bendigobank detail information in relation to that foundation now
28:46
Speaker 2: up on our website. But I'll also come back to
28:49
Speaker 2: it a little later in the show. I'll put it
28:51
Speaker 2: on the screen so people can make sure they capture
28:54
Speaker 2: that information. But Doug, I'm just thrilled we've had such
28:57
Speaker 2: a wonderful outcome for you, for k but most importantly
29:02
Speaker 2: for the legacy of Cameron and the forty other Australians
29:06
Speaker 2: like him who made the ultimate sacrifice there on the
29:10
Speaker 2: battlefield in Afghanistan. And I think they have shamed the government,
29:14
Speaker 2: these amazing Australians after what they did. But I will
29:18
Speaker 2: just say one thing, Tonya, but he's not giving up
29:20
Speaker 2: the fight. He's going to the Prime Minister, to Anthony
29:23
Speaker 2: Alberneesa to make sure you get your travel money reinstated.
29:26
Speaker 2: That's the first thing. And I think he's going to
29:28
Speaker 2: give you a ring because he has a big charity
29:31
Speaker 2: ride bicycle ride coming up, and I think he wants
29:34
Speaker 2: to put your foundation front and center in that charitable ride.
29:39
Speaker 2: So that's a bit of good news for you as well, Peter.
29:44
Speaker 1: That's absolutely fantastic. As we all know, Tony was the
29:49
Speaker 1: Prime Minister when it was announced that Cameron was the
29:53
Speaker 1: Australias one hundredth Victoria Cross the Reshipigan and look, he
29:58
Speaker 1: is just a great person, not only as a Prime Minister,
30:01
Speaker 1: but as a genuine person that you can and you
30:04
Speaker 1: can actually have a decent conversation with. And we feel
30:07
Speaker 1: extremely humble. Then we're very grateful to all the people,
30:10
Speaker 1: whether they donated twenty five dollars or two and a
30:13
Speaker 1: half thousand dollars or whatever it may be. Every dollar
30:17
Speaker 1: that comes in here we're going to use in the
30:18
Speaker 1: correct sort of manner. We're going to make sure veterans
30:21
Speaker 1: get looked after. First responders get looked after, and people
30:24
Speaker 1: in need don't go, don't get what they deserve through
30:28
Speaker 1: the system. We'll patch up in little holes that there
30:30
Speaker 1: there forum and what's happening now the mind is going
30:33
Speaker 1: to enable us to be able to do that.
30:36
Speaker 4: You're a beautiful man.
30:37
Speaker 13: Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
30:39
Speaker 4: Luck to you and k all right, we'll leave it
30:41
Speaker 4: there after the break.
30:42
Speaker 2: The Syrian governments pave the way to send back to
30:45
Speaker 2: Australia those remaining isis women. Well today the government try
30:49
Speaker 2: to say nothing they could do to stop it rubbish.
30:53
Speaker 2: We'll get into that after the break. I got to
30:59
Speaker 2: take more break because I tell you what I get
31:01
Speaker 2: amazing offers in the break. Just in this break, the
31:06
Speaker 2: Magnificent Andrew of Abercrombie, a Victorian man and Melbourne man
31:10
Speaker 2: that I know very well, who offered to cover the
31:12
Speaker 2: travel cost the ten thousand dollars. He doubled it obviously
31:15
Speaker 2: yesterday in relation to the beds, has just sent me
31:18
Speaker 2: a message and he wants to put one hundred thousand
31:22
Speaker 2: dollars into the Cameron bed Foundation to set it up
31:26
Speaker 2: on a proper footing. You are an extraordinary man, Andrew Abercrombie,
31:30
Speaker 2: thank you on behalf of all of my viewers and
31:33
Speaker 2: I know of course from the beds. All right, let's
31:36
Speaker 2: go now to those issues in relation to the Islamic
31:40
Speaker 2: State women. I brought you that news last night that
31:42
Speaker 2: they could be back in Australia as soon as next week.
31:45
Speaker 2: Labor of course out this morning saying nothing to see
31:48
Speaker 2: here and nothing we can do about it anyway.
31:51
Speaker 3: We don't want these people back in Australia. They made
31:54
Speaker 3: a terrible choice to go and support ISIS and support
31:57
Speaker 3: ISIS fighters on the government, any Australian government, you know,
32:00
Speaker 3: Labor Liberal made up of Martians, has very limited constitutional
32:04
Speaker 3: power to prevent citizens of Australia for returning. But the
32:07
Speaker 3: government is not assisting these citizens to return.
32:12
Speaker 2: Here to discuss that lie, Shadow ho Affairs Minister Senator
32:17
Speaker 2: Jonathan danniam I call it a lie. It's got to
32:20
Speaker 2: be called out for what it is. He says, we
32:22
Speaker 2: can't stop them. We've got no powers at all that
32:25
Speaker 2: can stop them. But that's not right, John. Temporary exclusion
32:29
Speaker 2: orders and current provisions in the passport at are there
32:34
Speaker 2: to be used, but I'm.
32:36
Speaker 4: Not being used.
32:38
Speaker 2: Yeah.
32:38
Speaker 12: Look, they're only the government, Peter, what can they do?
32:40
Speaker 12: They only control our borders, they only issue passports, They
32:43
Speaker 12: only change the laws and dominate our parliament the way
32:46
Speaker 12: they do. What can they do?
32:48
Speaker 4: It is a lie.
32:49
Speaker 12: That was a ridiculous interview by Julian Hill this morning.
32:52
Speaker 12: And to hear him say we don't want them here,
32:53
Speaker 12: but there's nothing we can do made my blood boil.
32:56
Speaker 12: They could have stopped the last cohort from coming in.
32:59
Speaker 12: They had charge. I just laid against them as soon
33:02
Speaker 12: as they set foot off those planes in Melbourne and Sydney,
33:05
Speaker 12: and I would argue that brief of evidence, as we've
33:07
Speaker 12: discussed previously, was enough to establish grounds for temporary travel bands,
33:12
Speaker 12: those temporary exclusion orders or indeed too enliven the provisions
33:16
Speaker 12: of the Passport Act, which would mean they could revoke
33:19
Speaker 12: or take away the passports that have been issued to
33:22
Speaker 12: these people. So why they say they can do nothing.
33:25
Speaker 12: I think he's exactly right as you say, it's a lie.
33:28
Speaker 12: They gave them the passports, they've paved the way, and
33:31
Speaker 12: they've allowed them to come in at great cost to taxpayers.
33:36
Speaker 4: Yeah.
33:36
Speaker 2: I mean even Keir Starmer, who can't stop the boats,
33:39
Speaker 2: has been able to stop the isis bride and here
33:42
Speaker 2: we've got this government throwing their hands in there. I mean,
33:45
Speaker 2: I think it's extraordinary. But more than that, now that
33:48
Speaker 2: we know that there's another cohort back and one to
33:51
Speaker 2: come next week. We've had no official press conference from
33:54
Speaker 2: the Prime minister, no detail about are these.
33:58
Speaker 4: Women getting legal aid or not?
34:00
Speaker 2: What are now the deradicalized programs that these children will
34:04
Speaker 2: be invited to join. How confident we are we in
34:08
Speaker 2: their efficacy, in the fact that they.
34:11
Speaker 4: Work, do they work? Who's running them? I want to
34:13
Speaker 4: know all of that detail.
34:15
Speaker 2: What sort of welfare is the woman who's currently not
34:18
Speaker 2: before the courts, the one that's out in the public domain.
34:22
Speaker 4: What sort of welfare is she getting?
34:24
Speaker 2: We just adve answers to all of this, Yet the
34:27
Speaker 2: minister's hiding under the bed. The Prime Minister won't answer them,
34:30
Speaker 2: and all they'll say is nothing to do with me.
34:33
Speaker 12: Yeah again, Look, they just come and go as they please.
34:37
Speaker 12: It's got nothing to do with the government. And you're
34:39
Speaker 12: quite right. So you know where are they going to
34:41
Speaker 12: be based, what community they are going to be a
34:43
Speaker 12: part of, What protections are going to be put in
34:45
Speaker 12: place for the people in those neighborhoods should they be
34:49
Speaker 12: in a community anywhere in Australia. Let's not forget Peter
34:53
Speaker 12: the nz YQ Cohort, that group of murderers and rapists
34:57
Speaker 12: who we can't seem to get rid of under this
35:00
Speaker 12: government because the High Court apparently won't let us deal
35:04
Speaker 12: with them in a way we want to. They were
35:06
Speaker 12: under conditions around monitoring. They were wearing those monitoring bracelets.
35:12
Speaker 12: Of course the High Court said your laws in order
35:14
Speaker 12: to maintain that monitoring program are not constitutional. We're going
35:19
Speaker 12: to get rid of them. They've done nothing about that.
35:22
Speaker 12: So if they can't even monitor this group of rapists
35:24
Speaker 12: and murderers in the end, z YQ Cohort, what confidence
35:27
Speaker 12: are we going to have when it comes to making
35:29
Speaker 12: sure these ISIS brides who went to join a terrorist
35:33
Speaker 12: group and support the ISIS fighter husbands are not going
35:36
Speaker 12: to pose a risk to our community. And these deradicalization
35:39
Speaker 12: programs are not worth the paper they're written on limited success,
35:43
Speaker 12: and evidence has been put about that it'll cost us
35:47
Speaker 12: two million dollars per year per isis Bride to deal
35:51
Speaker 12: with these people.
35:52
Speaker 11: It's a crime.
35:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, two million dollars per Isis Bride poor old Cameron
35:59
Speaker 2: Bears and Dad had five thousand dollars ripped away from
36:03
Speaker 2: them by the Defense Department. One was fighting Islamic extremism,
36:08
Speaker 2: the others went to join Islamic extremism. I know you're
36:13
Speaker 2: going to pursue this through estimates over the next sitting fortnite.
36:16
Speaker 2: I look forward to having you back on the program.
36:19
Speaker 2: You'll tell us what you've managed to wrestle out of
36:21
Speaker 2: the government and the public service. But we need answers
36:24
Speaker 2: on all of this. Thanks for joining me tonight, right
36:28
Speaker 2: quick break. After the break, We've got a whole lot
36:31
Speaker 2: more the terrible impact on our kids about climate change,
36:35
Speaker 2: the scare mongering and other things.
36:38
Speaker 4: Get to that in the moment.
36:43
Speaker 2: A few issues I want to get across and I
36:45
Speaker 2: want to bring in my panel to do that. Queensland
36:48
Speaker 2: MP Shadow Assistant Minister for Defense Phil Thompson, of course
36:51
Speaker 2: a soldier FORMU soldier himself, and the head of advocacy
36:54
Speaker 2: at the Women's Forum Australia is Stephanie Bastian.
36:56
Speaker 4: Welcome to you both, Phil.
36:57
Speaker 2: You heard John o'danny and mayor about the return of
37:00
Speaker 2: these Islamic state women. I saw you on a panel
37:05
Speaker 2: with Julian Hill, the bloke there from Labor a little
37:07
Speaker 2: while back who said, nothing to see here, nothing to
37:10
Speaker 2: do with us. We can't stop them. I don't know
37:14
Speaker 2: what's worse, a government that doesn't care or a government
37:17
Speaker 2: that admits it's impotent.
37:22
Speaker 11: Correct and Julian Light he lied. The government's lied.
37:27
Speaker 16: There are temporary exclusion orders that can be put in
37:29
Speaker 16: place where citizens of Australia can be kept out of
37:33
Speaker 16: our country for a period of.
37:35
Speaker 11: Two years for them to be reviewed.
37:37
Speaker 16: I know that the government, the Labor government and Julian
37:41
Speaker 16: and all those people are trying to turn the other
37:43
Speaker 16: way and say, oh, we've got nothing to do with it. Well,
37:45
Speaker 16: at the end of the day they issued the passports,
37:47
Speaker 16: they allowed someone to collect them and travel over to
37:50
Speaker 16: an area where you and allow to travel to to
37:51
Speaker 16: hand over passports to these ISIS members to then allow
37:56
Speaker 16: them to travel on them to return come to Australia.
38:01
Speaker 16: I don't want to see people that support ices coming
38:05
Speaker 16: to Australia.
38:06
Speaker 11: There is a security.
38:07
Speaker 16: Risk, there is a cost to it, and it's just
38:10
Speaker 16: not good policy. These are not our people. They do
38:14
Speaker 16: not share our values and they will not share them
38:16
Speaker 16: just because they return Because the people that they've married
38:19
Speaker 16: have been killed rightly so fighting Westerners and fighting against
38:24
Speaker 16: people like the Australian Defense Force. I don't want to
38:27
Speaker 16: see these IIS members.
38:28
Speaker 2: Here, just a quick one, Phil and I spoke again
38:33
Speaker 2: to Doug Beard before five thousand dollars was all he
38:36
Speaker 2: got from Vetz Affairs to travel the country with his
38:40
Speaker 2: wife to honor their son Cameron at RSL and school
38:44
Speaker 2: events around the country. And yet I did some research
38:47
Speaker 2: and realize that the minister who cut his five thousand
38:50
Speaker 2: dollars a year has spent three hundred and fifty thousand
38:53
Speaker 2: dollars in just the first three months of this year
38:55
Speaker 2: alone on his own travel.
38:58
Speaker 4: This is not good enough.
39:02
Speaker 16: It's a bloody disgrace, that's all it is. And it
39:04
Speaker 16: is another attack on the veterans by the Slavor government.
39:09
Speaker 16: I don't think five thousand dollars is enough for our
39:12
Speaker 16: Victoria Cross recipients. And they've dug Baird as the family
39:17
Speaker 16: member to be able to travel because they go around
39:21
Speaker 16: talking about the Victoria Cross and they talk about what
39:24
Speaker 16: it means, and it is ingrained in Australian history.
39:28
Speaker 11: I think it's disgraceful.
39:29
Speaker 16: I've got an idea, and it won't be popular with
39:32
Speaker 16: lots of my colleagues. But how about we all in
39:35
Speaker 16: politics or politicians, we all fly economy.
39:39
Speaker 11: Let's just do it for one year.
39:40
Speaker 16: We'll be able to fund or everyone in the VC
39:43
Speaker 16: program to be able to get more funding into it.
39:47
Speaker 16: Because what's happened is this government is turning its back
39:50
Speaker 16: on our history. It's turning its back on our veterans,
39:53
Speaker 16: and it's turned its back on our most bravest, those
39:56
Speaker 16: that have been awarded the Victoria Cross.
40:00
Speaker 2: I know you're tough enough to do that film, but
40:01
Speaker 2: some of your other colleagues are not. They've got very
40:04
Speaker 2: accustomed to the pointing end of the plane.
40:07
Speaker 4: Steph.
40:08
Speaker 2: What about the ABC today somehow arguing that the wind
40:13
Speaker 2: for rock sand Tickle, so a biological man who's won
40:16
Speaker 2: that case in the court, was somehow good for women's.
40:21
Speaker 17: Rights an absurd piece of writing, Peter, It's absolutely ridiculous.
40:28
Speaker 17: But when you look at the ABC when they broke
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Speaker 17: up with Acon, they didn't say that they were going
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Speaker 17: to check their bias. They were merely bringing it in
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Speaker 17: house or their DEI policies and whatnot. There's so many
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Speaker 17: things wrong with this article in the way that it's written,
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Speaker 17: the arguments that she makes.
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Speaker 4: She pits.
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Speaker 17: You know, she argues that lesbians are going to you know,
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Speaker 17: lesbians being excluded from female swimming. It's women against women.
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Speaker 17: The outlier is men. Men don't belong in these scenarios
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Speaker 17: at all, And none of the conclusions make any biological
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Speaker 17: scientific basis for what she's trying to say. But I mean,
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Speaker 17: I'm sick of our public institutions funding this ideology. This
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Speaker 17: is a woman who works for a public institution Monash University,
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Speaker 17: Anna Cody works for a public institution. This entire ideology
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Speaker 17: is propped up by government and our taxpayer funds.
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Speaker 4: It's got to stop.
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Speaker 17: There needs to be a review into all these positions.
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Speaker 17: Where are the alternate voices on this case in our
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Speaker 17: public institutions making the case? There's none? And quite frankly,
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Speaker 17: it's ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: Phil, What did you make of those comments from your
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Speaker 2: colleague in South Australia, Senator Andrew McLaughlin saying that he
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Speaker 2: doesn't like your policy in relation to immigration. He thinks
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Speaker 2: it's anti migrant. Now I've made a clear Angus Taylor's
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Speaker 2: separating people, not whether they're migrant or not. He's separating
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Speaker 2: them into citizens or not. But that's not what your
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Speaker 2: own colleague in South Australia thinks. He's gone out pretty
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Speaker 2: hard against it.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't agree with him that simple.
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Speaker 16: You know, I haven't been shy over the many years
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Speaker 16: of criticizing my own colleagues.
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Speaker 11: And I'm not going to stop tonight. I think he's wrong.
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Speaker 16: I think he doesn't share the sentiment of many Australians,
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Speaker 16: and I think Angus Taylor's policy is the right move.
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Speaker 11: It is the correct move.
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Speaker 16: And you know, I think someone that sits in our
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Speaker 16: caucus and our side of politics, that is supposed to
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Speaker 16: share our values is somehow drifted away from it.
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Speaker 11: It's just, you know, I saw it.
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Speaker 16: I shook my head and went, you know, at the
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Speaker 16: end of the day, he can have his opinion.
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Speaker 11: We can do that the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 16: We can disagree with each other, and we do it
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Speaker 16: publicly more often than not. But I disagree with him
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Speaker 16: and I think he's wrong on this occasion.
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Speaker 2: Well, got on you for speaking so frankly. You don't
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Speaker 2: heed your bets like some do.
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Speaker 4: Steph.
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Speaker 2: This research today from the IPA that says part of
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Speaker 2: the big mental anguish our kids are suffering, is driven
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Speaker 2: by climate alarmism.
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Speaker 17: Look, I have great concerns about this as well. I mean,
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Speaker 17: the mental health of our children is declining. We're seeing
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Speaker 17: that in the results in academia and everything that's coming
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Speaker 17: out in terms of naplan. Quite frankly, these political agendas
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Speaker 17: do not belong in schools. Whether it's climate of armism,
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Speaker 17: whether it's a hatred, you know, sharing hatred of our
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Speaker 17: country through a retelling of our national history, and whether
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Speaker 17: it's gender ideology.
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Speaker 4: These are political.
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Speaker 17: Agendas being pushed onto children by adults, and they should
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Speaker 17: be scrapped and defunded entirely. It is wrong and quite
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Speaker 17: frankly bearing on the side of abuse of children because
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Speaker 17: of the damage that it's doing to their mental health
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Speaker 17: and the impact it's having on their education.
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Speaker 2: Stephan Bastien Phil Thompson, thank you very much, or Inn
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Speaker 2: after the break we've got Kell.
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Speaker 4: We've got some great words.
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Speaker 2: See you in a moment, joining me as he does
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Speaker 2: every Wednesday. Wordsmith and broadcaster Kel Richards.
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Speaker 4: This one comes to us from John Kell.
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Speaker 2: It's a cracker because of course we had that debate
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Speaker 2: with the President's president. Sorry, I'm thinking of a saidate there,
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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House of Representatives, who had to wait
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Speaker 2: in last week when someone accused the Prime Minister of lying.
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Speaker 2: And we've all seen the tape. We know he's lying.
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Speaker 2: I allowed us say he's a liar, or that he lied,
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Speaker 2: or any permutation of that in the Parliament. But John
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Speaker 2: wants to know, then, what's the difference between an untruth
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Speaker 2: and a lie?
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Speaker 18: This is actually quite interesting. They're both very old words,
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Speaker 18: both go back to Old English. Lying comes from a
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Speaker 18: Germanic source word, untruth probably from an Old Norse source word,
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Speaker 18: And obviously the meanings are very close. Lying just means
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Speaker 18: a flat out telling a false word, knowing it's false.
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Speaker 18: An untruth means that, but it conveys something else. According
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Speaker 18: to two of the really big dictionaries, the Oxford and
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Speaker 18: the Merriam Webster, it also conveys the idea of a disloyalty, unfaithfulness,
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Speaker 18: that kind of thing which means that. So untruthfulness might
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Speaker 18: be a better word to use to talk about a
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Speaker 18: broken election. Promise disloyalty, unfaithfulness. People don't trust the next election.
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Speaker 18: Promise the next election, Albanez, he says, good, I promise
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Speaker 18: they'll never be a capital goings saxon the family home.
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Speaker 18: People just say, but you change your position, how can
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Speaker 18: we know you won't change your position. It's that idea
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Speaker 18: of disloyalty which is conveyed by untruth, and it's not
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Speaker 18: unparliamentary language. They'll get away with it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll pass it on to the parliamentary people. But
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Speaker 2: we'll also thank John for that good one. Bruce wants
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Speaker 2: to know the difference between gasoline and petrol. How these
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Speaker 2: words became sort of interchangeable when they are so different.
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Speaker 18: Gasoline appears in America in the eighteen sixties around about there,
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Speaker 18: and it seems to be coined almost out of thin air,
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Speaker 18: although it may have come from an earlier term gas oil,
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Speaker 18: which was used for the lighting fluid, the oily lighting
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Speaker 18: fluid for lamb in those days. But it was just
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Speaker 18: pulled out of thin air without any connection to anything.
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Speaker 18: You're meaning very much. Petrol, of course, is short for
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Speaker 18: the word petroleum, and petroleum is a thousand years older
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Speaker 18: than gasoline. It goes all the way back, and it
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Speaker 18: comes from two Latin Soauce words of the Latin word
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Speaker 18: for rock and the Latin word for oil, so allly fluid.
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Speaker 18: It comes out of rock is petroleum, and that means
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Speaker 18: that petrel is a much better name for motor fuel
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Speaker 18: than gas. So once again I'm afraid it's Yanks wrong
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Speaker 18: us right, what.
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Speaker 2: About cut the mustard? Have we got time for that?
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Speaker 2: John and Julie want to know where that phrase comes from.
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Speaker 18: I can explain that fairly quickly from America eighteen eighty four,
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Speaker 18: and it's to do with harvesting very tall mustard plants.
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Speaker 18: In the San Francisco Examiner eighteen eighty four, there was
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Speaker 18: a report about the difficulty of finding men tall enough
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Speaker 18: to see to cut the mustard. So if you can't
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Speaker 18: do the job, you can't cut the mustard.
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Speaker 2: I always think you know the Keynes mustard powder. I
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Speaker 2: forget it actually comes from a very tall plant. I
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Speaker 2: don't think i've in you it came from a tall plant.
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Speaker 2: You teach me something every week. Cal Richards, Thank you,
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Speaker 2: all right, we'll get to support next week. Send them in,
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Speaker 2: we'll put them.
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Speaker 4: Up on the show. That's it for me tonight. Thank you,
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Speaker 4: Andrew Abercrombie.
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Speaker 4: That's it See Tomorrow Night. He's Andrew