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APD changes ICE cooperation policy · Austin Signal

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The Austin Police Department is
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changing its roles over how officers
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report people to immigration and
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customs enforcement.
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The change comes after the detention
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and apparent deportation last week
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of a Honduran mother and her
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five-year-old daughter.
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We're going to talk about the
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changes in APD policy and
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the reaction from Austin city
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council members, and Austin voters
0:28
could be soon faced again with
0:30
deciding whether to raise property
0:31
taxes to help the city tackle
0:33
expenses like park improvements and
0:35
public safety.
0:36
We're going to have more about
0:38
considerations for a new bond
0:39
package coming up on today's show.
0:41
The Austin Signal is a production
0:43
of KUT News, hosted by
0:45
Jerry Quijano.
0:46
Plus, the KUTX hip-hop show
0:48
The Breaks is up for a Best Radio
0:50
Show award in the Austin Music
0:52
Awards poll.
0:53
Come hear about how they'd like to
0:55
continue growing their show.
0:56
That's up next on Austin Signal.
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Howdy, you are tuned in to Austin
1:10
Signal.
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It is Thursday, January 15th.
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I'm your host, Jerry Kehannel.
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Thank you for making us part of
1:17
your day.
1:18
A quick update from the KUT newsroom
1:20
to start us off today.
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Austin voters this fall could once
1:23
again decide whether or not to raise
1:25
property taxes.
1:26
City leaders are considering putting
1:27
a bond package on the ballot after
1:29
voters rejected a property tax rate
1:31
increase last year known as
1:33
Proposition Q.
1:34
We've got more about that coming up
1:36
in today's show.
1:37
We're two months out from the South
1:39
by Southwest takeover of Austin
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But the Sydney edition of South
1:43
by is not happening this year
1:45
Festival organizers announced this
1:47
week that the decision was made in
1:48
light of a quote changing global
1:50
environment That's impacting
1:52
events and cultural programs around
1:54
the world.
1:55
This would have been the fourth year
1:56
South by took place in Australia
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We've got lots more news for you.
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That's on the KUT app and
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online at KUT
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Let's jump into today's
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show. The Austin Police Department
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is changing its rules over how
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officers can report people to
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Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
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And the change comes after the
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detention and apparent deportation
2:17
of a Honduran mother and her
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five-year-old daughter.
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For more about this story, we're
2:21
talking with Mo's Bouchel.
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He's been covering it for the Texas
2:24
Newsroom. Mo's, thanks for joining
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the show. Hey, Jerry.
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So this has been a fast-moving
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situation. We actually had you on
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the show Monday talking about this
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case of the Honduran mother and her
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daughter.
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Listeners can go back to listen to
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that episode.
2:37
But can you give us a brief rundown
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for people who might not have been
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tuned in on Monday of what occurred
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in this case?
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So last week,
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a woman called Austin
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Police Department on a disturbance
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call, it was Monday of
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last week now, so over a week ago,
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APD showed up and ran
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the caller, this woman's
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information in a database that
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police have when they do background
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checks.
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That flagged what they call
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an ICE administrative warrant.
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ICE had flagged her as potentially
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being in the country, you
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know, without authorization.
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The police officer then
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called ICE, ICE arrived
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and detained her and her daughter,
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who was an American citizen,
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according to the other family
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members and advocates.
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And now the advocates say both of
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them were deported.
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That's the backstory.
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That's what has happened to now
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kind of spark this whole debate
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over police policy.
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And can you tell us about the change
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in police policy?
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So the idea is that
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in Texas, state
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law prohibits cities
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from stopping local
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officers from communicating with
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ICE. It's called SB4.
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This is a state law that was passed
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in 2017.
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But Austin and many other large
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cities in Texas do
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not want to
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turn their local law enforcement
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into agents of federal
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immigration enforcement.
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They say it's bad policy that it
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that it disrupts the, you know,
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trying to stop crime in the city.
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Something you've talked about with
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us here on the show absolutely
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Absolutely. And also kind of ruins
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trust among immigrant communities.
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So Austin's kind of between a
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rock and a hard place here.
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State law says you can't stop police
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from cooperating to
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some degree with ICE,
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but the city doesn't want to do
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that.
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What this incident with the mother
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and her daughter showed was that
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police are seeing these
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administrative warrants come up in
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background checks and officers are
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contacting ICE.
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So, Austin Police.
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To decide we need to update our city
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policy.
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All right, you know, we need a look
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at state law and advise officers
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about what they can do.
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And I interviewed the police chief
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earlier this week and what she
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said was that state law is
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relatively clear.
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She said that she cannot,
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she said that officers have the
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discretion. They can call ICE
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when they find these warrants and
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that they're going to update city
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policy to let police
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officers know that they can contact
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ICE. She can't stop them from doing
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that. She also said other things.
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She said that she's going to have it
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so they have, they first call their
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shift commanders before they contact
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ICE. Other things like that we can
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get into.
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But what she said was, was she said,
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law is clear on this.
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She had been advised by the city
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legal that she can't stop
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officers from calling ICE on these
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administrative warrants.
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And so that was the, that was a
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story that we ran earlier this week
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about this, this policy change
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We broke this news yesterday
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and almost immediately there was
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response from various city council
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members. What has been the reaction?
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What are they saying about this
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policy?
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So, yeah, very soon after we came
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out with the story, city council
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members took to social media saying
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that they were upset,
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that there may be
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this kind of greater discretion or
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leeway for officers
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to talk to ICE.
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Some of them suggested that
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the story would, basically that
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our reporting was different from
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what they had heard from the chief
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of police.
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Or from the city legal team uh...
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And that they were confident that
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some that somehow the city could
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thread this needle to
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be able to assure people that they
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won't be reported ice while staying
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on the right side of
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state law which says at
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basically that they can't do that
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and that's where we are now we're in
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this kind of big debate in public
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discourse over what's what uh...
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Our city can't and can't
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deal in light of state law when
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it comes to immigration enforcement.
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Okay well last question for you, I
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know you also asked the city's legal
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department for a response to this
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story, what have you heard from
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them?
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Uh... So city legal did it this
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morning uh...
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It was in the session the city can
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the city this morning uh...
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Gave us the memo is produced by
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the city legal staff these are
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public members are also private ones
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that are that are subject to its
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attorney-client privilege that we
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can't see but the public memos
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at as as far as my initial
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read appear to echo what the chief
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said uh... The public memo say the
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city is in a tough position and
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and really cannot cannot
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unilaterally stop, well
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certainly cannot stop officers.
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From reaching out to ICE enforcement
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when they see one of these warrants.
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Okay, well, we have more about
7:07
this story at kut.org
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again This this is a case of the
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hundred mother and her five-year-old
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daughter happened last week We
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brought the story to you on Monday
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and there's been lots of changes
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since then So there could be
7:18
lots more to be reported on and
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when that happens We will bring
7:22
Moe's Bouchelle and he has been
7:23
covering the story for the Texas
7:25
newsroom We're gonna have a link to
7:27
the story at KUT org
7:29
slash signal and in our podcast
7:30
show notes most.
7:31
Thank you Thank You Jerry
7:38
Austin voters could once again
7:40
be faced with deciding whether to
7:42
raise property taxes to help the
7:43
city tackle expenses like public
7:45
safety and park improvements.
7:48
As KUT's Luz Moreno Lozano
7:50
reports, the City Council is
7:51
considering a new bond package.
7:55
If Austin leaders put a bond on the
7:56
ballot this November, it would be
7:58
the second time in a year they'd go
7:59
to voters for financial help.
8:02
Last year, Austinites rejected a
8:03
controversial property tax rate
8:05
increase known as Proposition Q.
8:07
Without that extra money, the city
8:09
was forced to cut $95 million from
8:11
its budget.
8:12
Councilmember Krista Lane fears it
8:14
might be too soon to ask voters for
8:16
more money.
8:17
What we need to do as a city is
8:19
we need to not just talk about,
8:21
but deliver savings
8:23
that come from increased
8:24
efficiencies that allow us to fund
8:26
our priorities.
8:27
And also the
8:29
work has been ongoing, but
8:31
our voters, it's not enough for them
8:32
to hear us say that.
8:33
They have to see it begin to happen.
8:35
Over the next several months, the
8:37
Austin City Council will weigh
8:38
whether to put this bond before
8:39
voters and how much to ask for.
8:42
An initial list outlines nearly $4
8:44
billion in potential projects.
8:46
Those include addressing space
8:47
constraints at Austin Animal
8:48
Services, expanding library
8:50
branches, and renovating public
8:52
safety facilities.
8:54
The redesign of the Sixth Street
8:55
Entertainment District, parkland
8:57
improvements, and emergency homeless
8:58
shelters could also be part of the
9:00
deal.
9:02
But that list will have to be
9:03
whittled down.
9:04
City staff are recommending a bond
9:05
package totaling no more than $750
9:08
million to minimize the
9:09
impact on taxpayers.
9:11
Kim Olivares, Austin's financial
9:13
services director, says the average
9:15
homeowner pays about $450
9:17
a year in taxes toward the city's
9:19
debt, and a new bond would add
9:21
to that tax burden.
9:22
But at this current rate, it's about
9:24
$14.34
9:26
for every $100 million
9:28
of debt that you issue.
9:30
That impacts the taxpayer on an
9:32
annual basis.
9:33
Discussions of a potential bond,
9:34
comments, residents, and advocates
9:36
have raised concerns about the
9:37
city's spending.
9:38
The Austin City Council is coming up
9:40
with a decision-making process to
9:41
ensure the money would be spent
9:42
efficiently.
9:44
Olivares says the city should also
9:46
consider how bond elections fared
9:47
across Texas this past November.
9:49
In November 2025,
9:52
there were 14 cities that held bond
9:53
elections of the
9:55
$852.7 million proposed
9:58
to voters, only 30%
10:00
of it was ultimately approved.
10:02
City staff will continue to gather
10:04
feedback as they develop the bond
10:05
package over the next several weeks.
10:07
The City Council is expected to get
10:08
a final recommendation on projects
10:10
and the total cost of the bond in
10:12
August.
10:13
I'm Luz Moreno-Luzano in Austin.
10:20
Thank you for spending part of your
10:22
Thursday here with Austin Signal
10:24
on KUT News 90.5.
10:27
On the KUT app and online at
10:29
KUT.org.
10:31
Don't forget to subscribe to Austin
10:33
Signal wherever you listen to your
10:35
shows and you can find everything
10:36
that we've been working on at
10:38
Kut.org
10:40
slash Signal.
10:42
We're going to take a break but
10:43
after that we're going hear from the
10:45
Austin Poet Laureate and we're
10:46
gonna talk to the hosts of the
10:48
breaks. Are up for.
10:49
The best radio show award
10:51
in the Austin Music Awards poll.
10:54
That's coming up next.
11:05
Hi, my name is Zell Miller III.
11:07
I am the Artistic Director of Black
11:09
Rose Theater ATX,
11:11
and this is Austin Sigma.
11:18
I am the inaugural poet laureate of
11:20
Austin, Texas, which is very cool
11:22
to be the first.
11:23
So I am now a Jeopardy Question,
11:25
which I'm also, you know, that's
11:26
awesome. And so I've
11:28
been performing, doing things in
11:30
Austin probably for 30 years.
11:33
26 of those have been as
11:35
a theater artist and
11:37
24, 25 of those has been as
11:39
teaching artists.
11:44
I'm starting a theater company
11:46
called Black Rose Theater ATX and
11:48
the reason it is called Black Rose
11:49
theater ATX is because my
11:51
mother who passed away, Rest in
11:53
Power, Vernell, she had a
11:55
black rose tattoo on her ankle.
11:56
So this is in honor of her.
11:58
But I've been a theater artist for
12:00
like I said, 20 something years.
12:02
And so, a friend of mine,
12:04
Andrew Levesque, very brilliant
12:05
young man, he has been
12:07
a fan of my work.
12:08
And so one day he was just like,
12:10
Hey man, let's let's do a nonprofit.
12:12
I'll be the board president.
12:14
You get some people, and let's
12:16
make this happen.
12:17
Let's continue to push what you're
12:19
doing with theater
12:21
into the stratosphere.
12:22
And so this was the year
12:24
that I decided that I'm gonna step
12:26
out and be a nonprofit.
12:28
There is no one doing Black
12:30
Children's Theater Voices in
12:32
the city of Austin, Texas on a
12:33
consistent basis.
12:34
So we aim to change that.
12:35
So we're gonna do full service.
12:36
We're gonna have theater
12:38
for children ages five to
12:40
12. We're going to have productions
12:42
for youth, which everybody ignores.
12:45
So we're going work with that group
12:46
as well, do productions for them.
12:48
And then, of course, we'll be doing
12:49
adult productions as well.
12:53
I practice my theater art
12:55
in something called the jazz
12:56
esthetic, which was taught to me
12:58
by my mentor, Laurie Carlos,
13:00
Rest in Power.
13:02
Jazz esthetic is a way of kind of
13:04
destroying that idea of what theater
13:06
looks like from a western
13:07
perspective.
13:08
And we use a lot of gesture language
13:09
because we talk with our hands, I'm
13:10
doing it right now.
13:11
But we talk our hands and
13:13
we kind of, we're very expressive
13:15
people.
13:16
So the jazz study basically takes
13:18
that and puts it on stage.
13:19
So there could be.
13:21
Someone's saying a monolog and they
13:22
could be moving their hands and
13:23
doing different things to accent
13:25
that monolog.
13:26
And their hand gestures might not go
13:27
along with what's being said out of
13:29
their mouth. And while that's
13:30
happening, two people could be doing
13:32
movement across the stage.
13:34
So Western theater is like A
13:35
person, A I'm talking, no one
13:37
does anything. B responds.
13:39
But jazz esthetic, there's a lot of
13:41
different things going on.
13:41
So it kind of forces the
13:43
audience to take in
13:45
theater in a different perspective.
13:47
That's the way I've been working for
13:48
the last 15 years and that's the
13:50
only way that I know how to work.
13:51
So I'm excited that when we start
13:53
doing our camps, we'll be
13:55
teaching youth how to work
13:57
in the jazz esthetic as well.
13:59
The first production is going to be
14:01
a hip hop version of
14:03
Aesop Fables.
14:05
My name is Zelma the Third.
14:07
I am the Artistic Director of Black
14:09
Rose Theater ATX and Austin's
14:11
inaugural poet, L'Orient.
14:13
And you are listening to Austin's
14:15
Signal.
14:23
You can find out more about
14:25
Zell and his story at KUT.org.
14:29
And if you're interested in more
14:30
artsy things, we've got more arts
14:32
coverage, plus a list of
14:33
recommendations of what's going on
14:35
around town this weekend.
14:37
That is at K-U-T.org
14:40
slash art beat.
14:49
Voting ends in the Austin Music
14:51
Awards poll on Monday and
14:53
our good friends over at KUTX are
14:55
up for a bunch of awards We're
14:57
gonna include a link for you to cast
14:58
your ballot in our show notes
15:00
But those KUTx nominations
15:02
include Best Radio Station,
15:05
Best Radio Personality for Taylor
15:06
Wallace and Mark Fort and
15:08
Best Radio Show for The
15:11
Breaks with Confucius Jones and
15:13
Fresh Night.
15:14
They're joining us on Austin Signal
15:15
today fellas Thank you for your time
15:17
Thank you for having us, man.
15:19
So congrats on your nomination.
15:21
For our listeners who might not be
15:23
familiar with your show, how long
15:24
have y'all been hosting it and how
15:26
long y'al known each other?
15:27
Uh, we just made nine
15:29
years, uh, last week.
15:32
Oh, no, of the show.
15:33
Oh, man.
15:33
We just made 9 years of The Breaks
15:35
being in existence last week on the
15:37
7th.
15:38
We started January 7th,
15:40
2017.
15:41
So the breaks existed before KUTX
15:43
then? Uh, no, but...
15:44
Oh, it's been on KUTx since
15:46
2017?
15:47
Yes. Holy moly, okay, wow, time
15:49
really flies.
15:50
Okay, so how long have y'all known
15:51
each other? Because if you listen to
15:53
the show, you guys have a great
15:54
rapport.
15:55
As far as I know, you're the only
15:57
tag team hosting show that we have
15:58
on Kut or KUT-X.
16:01
So, you know, what's the secret to
16:02
your success? How long have you all
16:03
known each others, first and
16:04
foremost?
16:04
Well, we met each other during the
16:06
breaks,
16:08
uh, I knew before that, uh
16:10
we probably met around my
16:12
oldest son is 13, he'll be 14,
16:14
so we probably meet 15 years ago.
16:16
Yeah, that sounded about right.
16:17
He was at school at
16:19
Prairie View blogging and I was
16:21
trying to manage an artist.
16:22
And DJ. He was, he was being tagged
16:25
to me as the great Confucius Jones.
16:27
I was?
16:28
Oh yeah, from the new kid.
16:30
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was DJ, I was
16:31
doing mixtapes.
16:32
And so we just, our worlds came
16:33
together and he would help me with
16:35
artists and and
16:37
then, you know, I couldn't, I could
16:38
do the artist thing anymore.
16:39
We tried to go into podcasts, which
16:41
we did. We did pretty well at
16:42
podcasts. We had those damn combo
16:43
guys, which is still active.
16:45
We just don't do it as much anymore.
16:46
We don't have the time yeah
16:49
because you say pretty busy doing
16:50
the breaks right exactly and you
16:52
are also radio personalities 4k
16:54
UTX in addition
16:55
Yes.
16:56
So it's kind of hard to, it's like
16:58
our side project.
16:59
We'll get back to it at some point,
17:00
but and then from there we just
17:02
started doing radio.
17:03
Just felt like a natural
17:04
progression. We felt like we did a
17:05
lot in podcasting and we said let's
17:07
do radio and then led to the break.
17:08
And Fresh, you're born and raised
17:10
Austinite?
17:11
Yes, we both are.
17:12
You both are, okay, that was my next
17:14
question. So you all have been
17:15
pretty steeped in the hip hop scene
17:17
basically since you've been born.
17:19
I will say basically since I've been
17:21
bored. How long would you say that?
17:24
The last two decades,
17:26
I would say. Roughly the last few
17:27
decades.
17:28
It's got to be at least three for me
17:29
now to think about it.
17:30
Yeah, because I was bootlegging CDs
17:32
in middle school and I was like 98.
17:36
Selling mixtapes then.
17:38
So how have you all seen the
17:40
the hip-hop the local scene grow in
17:41
your time in your three decades in
17:43
your two decades?
17:44
I've seen it grow a lot, you know,
17:46
we felt growing up like hip hop
17:48
was more like a niche thing, like
17:49
you just kind of had to know it or
17:50
know the right people to find it.
17:52
And I would say that
17:54
it's grown to a place where it's a
17:55
lot more accessible.
17:57
Shows like The Breaks and other
17:58
shows too on different hip hop shows
18:00
and different radio stations always
18:02
highlight what's going on, so I
18:03
think that's the biggest change I've
18:05
ever seen.
18:05
I would agree.
18:07
Accessibility to
18:09
rap has changed greatly
18:11
in Austin.
18:14
It's more, what's the word I'm
18:16
looking for, it's more people are
18:17
more welcoming to it now.
18:19
And I guess that attributes to
18:21
the large amount of transplants that
18:22
we now have living in the
18:24
city is that we now
18:26
live in a time where hip hop is the
18:28
dominant genre.
18:29
So people want to hear some form
18:31
of hip hop and they want to know
18:33
what is going what though what
18:35
rap sounds like in this
18:37
city in particular.
18:38
Okay well speaking of that, could
18:39
you all give us maybe one or two
18:41
artists that you think maybe kind
18:43
of embodies what Austin hip hop is
18:44
about, an artist that you're excited
18:46
about these days?
18:47
Uh, yeah, sure, uh,
18:50
I would advise people to
18:51
check out Lynn.
18:53
Anyway, I got my muscle up.
18:55
I'm pop out but a waste gotta know
18:57
I keep it up and some truies always
18:59
Gotta know I'll keep it flesh know
19:01
that
19:01
L-Y-N-N,
19:04
originally from Alabama.
19:05
And I just found out she's been
19:06
living here for like the last
19:07
decade. I was shocked to
19:09
know that.
19:10
It's gonna be like that.
19:11
But yeah, I would say Lynn, she has
19:13
a great album out now called
19:15
entitled 10,000 Hours.
19:18
And then I would also say
19:20
Jay Soulja, who has done a lot and
19:22
just got his own day December
19:25
11th, 2025, Jay
19:27
was pronounced Jay Souljaday.
19:29
So yeah, I would, I will say those
19:31
two.
19:31
What about you Confucius?
19:32
I was gonna say those two.
19:34
That's okay.
19:35
Well, that's that's what I think that's
19:36
part of the synergy that y'all have
19:37
you kind of working on one brain
19:39
sometimes That's that totally
19:40
fine. We're gonna we'll go with that
19:42
Jay Soulja and Lynn L Y
19:44
and N Okay, I have one
19:45
last question for y' all you've done
19:47
the show since 2017 as
19:49
I learned during this interview I
19:51
know that yall have done the South
19:52
by Southwest showcase and you've
19:54
taken your show done an interview at
19:55
ACL as well
19:58
Did you ever first off?
19:59
Did you never imagine hosting a
20:00
hip-hop show on a public radio
20:02
station? Oh god
20:05
cool for political science.
20:06
I didn't go to school at all.
20:09
We were just talking about this the
20:10
other day. We never.
20:11
This wasn't the dream.
20:12
Wasn't the dream um i
20:14
10 years ago i thought i'd be a
20:16
bigger dj than i am i don't care but
20:18
uh
20:18
10 years ago, I thought I'd be mayor
20:20
by now.
20:21
Really?
20:22
It's not too late,
20:24
but I had been planning on
20:26
running for mayor by then.
20:29
Yeah, radio just kind of happened.
20:30
I always tell people podcasting was
20:32
like our independent run.
20:34
And we were like, let's sign to a
20:35
major.
20:36
And we come to KTX and it's like,
20:37
maybe we should stay in the
20:38
dependent on it.
20:40
We put our great albums here,
20:42
but the independent stuff was where
20:43
it was at.
20:45
We all have been doing great things
20:46
regardless.
20:47
So how would you like to see the
20:49
show grow in the future?
20:51
Or what would you do in the feature?
20:52
How would you see the breaks
20:53
continue to flourish here in Austin?
20:56
For me, I want us to start doing
20:57
more live shows.
20:59
I think we turn out pretty well.
21:01
We have a pretty good turnout when
21:02
we do it.
21:03
We did a few before COVID,
21:05
right? And they were at Empire.
21:06
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:07
They did pretty decent.
21:09
I want to get back to that.
21:10
I feel like the best way to
21:12
grow a brand is to go out amongst
21:13
the people so they can kind of see
21:15
the process of it.
21:16
The magic and how the sausage is
21:17
made. And also more high profile
21:19
guests. We get maybe a handful a
21:21
year, but I'm gonna see that number
21:22
go up. Okay.
21:23
So it's just a matter of us reaching
21:24
out.
21:25
Um, what would I like to see the
21:26
show be?
21:29
Syndication about that syndication
21:30
out
21:32
syndication. If it's not nationally,
21:34
at least throughout the state,
21:36
uh, Texas is pretty big that I
21:38
think like we could service the
21:41
rest of the state of Texas,
21:42
especially with the, uh what's
21:43
the word I'm looking for?
21:45
Um, especially with a way public
21:47
media has been treated as of
21:49
late. I think it would, uh
21:52
behoove KU
21:54
T X to like get our voices out
21:56
there a little bit more, man. You
21:57
know, they brag about it everywhere
21:58
else. Yeah, they love us, man, so
22:00
yeah, That's my ultimate goal.
22:02
All right, sweet, well if you know
22:03
someone somewhere else out in Texas
22:04
that wants to stream it, let us
22:06
know. We've been chatting with Fresh
22:08
Night and Confucius Jones.
22:09
They are hosts of The Breaks
22:11
Saturday nights on KUTX.
22:13
They are nominated for best radio
22:14
show in the Austin Music Awards
22:15
poll. Voting ends on Monday.
22:17
Again, we're gonna have a link in
22:19
our show notes.
22:19
Guys, thanks for your time.
22:20
Thank you.
22:22
Turned a little to a light, now
22:24
we at your own top Oh,
22:26
look at how this changed up on him
22:28
Look at how I came off on him
22:30
And thank you for listening,
22:32
spending part of your Thursday here
22:34
with us, that is it for today's
22:36
show. This is Austin
22:38
Signal, and thank you to Moe's
22:40
Bouchelle, Luce Moreno Lozano,
22:42
Fresh Night, and Confucius Jones
22:44
for helping us out today.
22:46
Kristin Cabrera is Austin's Signals
22:48
managing producer, and Reyna Sevilla
22:50
is the show's technical director.
22:53
I'm your host, Jerry Kehannel.
22:54
We will talk to you tomorrow.
22:56
Have a good one out there.