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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers Top 5 Defense? · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh it's Mack and Bow on your radio.
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  Speaker 2: If this is my friend back, posh, Come on, posh,
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  Speaker 2: this is my friend Team Bone.
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  Speaker 3: What does the fun I can't go to work without
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  Speaker 3: listening to the Mack and Bone to.
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  Speaker 2: Do a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I love it because the talk around Carolina has been, hey,
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  Speaker 3: we're the chance, but people still don't really believe in us.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's the eight and nine record, the way they
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  Speaker 3: want a division. Maybe people still don't believe in Bryce.
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  Speaker 3: But this is a team that believes not only can
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  Speaker 3: they win this division, they can be a true NFC contender.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 3: This a couple of factors that I think are going
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  Speaker 3: to be at play here. A new offensive play caller
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  Speaker 3: for Bryce Young Brad Isaac is now taking over play callers.
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  Speaker 3: Dave Canal has made the decision to give him that
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  Speaker 3: so he could be a CEO handle situational football, have
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  Speaker 3: a bigger hand on the team. Isac has created a
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  Speaker 3: really strong relationship with Bryce over the last year. I
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  Speaker 3: know that he challenged Bryce last year to be more vocal,
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  Speaker 3: to show his leadership ability, and he showed that and
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  Speaker 3: teammates really saw a different version of Bryce.
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  Speaker 5: Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ National media praise for
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  Speaker 5: your Carolina Panthers. Drink it in, y'all, drink it in.
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  Speaker 5: That is Cameron Wolf, NFL Network talking about the Carolina
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  Speaker 5: Panthers and their confidence headed into the season. Cameron, talk
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  Speaker 5: to your co workers, because six of the seven co
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  Speaker 5: workers surveyed had the Panthers with losing records. All right,
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  Speaker 5: so I bet you go talk to Bucky Brooks. How
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  Speaker 5: about you go shake up Nick Shook a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Who has us win in five games? Brooks has this
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  Speaker 5: winning six games? Yes, send out a start email by
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  Speaker 5: what's going on around here?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 6: How about a older respect for the NFC South champions, Mac,
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  Speaker 6: You just can't be an average, too bad football team
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  Speaker 6: and win the NFC South, can you.
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  Speaker 2: No, don't answer that point. You couldn't even be below average.
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  Speaker 5: And when that could never happen anyway, not this year,
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  Speaker 5: man winning record incoming for the Carolina Panthers.
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  Speaker 2: You book it.
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  Speaker 5: You can say, oh no, Mac just cursed us. But
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  Speaker 5: anybody that knows what they're producing, the level of which
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  Speaker 5: they're improving, bone what they've done in the off season,
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  Speaker 5: anybody with a dang head on their shoulders can see
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  Speaker 5: the Carolina Panthers are gonna have their first winning record
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  Speaker 5: in freaking eons this season.
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  Speaker 6: I feel it, Bone, And it all starts with Chicago,
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  Speaker 6: a team that is going to be hyped up as well.
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  Speaker 6: Caleb Williams, the top ten quarterback. I cannot wait for
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  Speaker 6: Bears Panthers week number one. Last week back, we did
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  Speaker 6: a topic on what game do you do you most
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  Speaker 6: want to win? And there's a lot of Panther options
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  Speaker 6: on that schedule this year. There's a lot of there's
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  Speaker 6: a lot of marquee games. But I chose the Bear
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  Speaker 6: to get off to a good start so to make
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  Speaker 6: those games later on really matter down the stretch.
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  Speaker 2: I get off to a good start, man.
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  Speaker 5: Bone, I just want the team to go one to
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  Speaker 5: know each week personally, you know what I mean, the
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  Speaker 5: next game is the most It would be super awesome,
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  Speaker 5: super awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I want them to be super each week. All right.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, let's lock in a little bit here. This dude
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  Speaker 5: said panic. This dude said panic in the street, Say,
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  Speaker 5: Charlotte Mac just declared a winning seasons coming. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: couldn't hold back. I was supposed to hold back on
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  Speaker 5: that bone that ran for later on in the preseason.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 5: All right, let's get into this because maybe this is
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  Speaker 5: what has me excited. Yesterday on NFL Live on a ESPN,
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  Speaker 5: they discuss the Carolina Panthers and they discuss specifically the defense.
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  Speaker 5: You're gonna hear from Mina Chimes and Dan Orlovsky. Do
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  Speaker 5: you feel this do you feel like this is achievable
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  Speaker 5: the way they describe it?
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  Speaker 2: What Orlovsky says at the end, let's let's listen to
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  Speaker 2: this and then and then basket it. Bony.
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  Speaker 7: I'm really optimistic about the Panthers part because I think
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  Speaker 7: that improvement already started last year. They actually finished twelfth
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  Speaker 7: league wide in success rate, which is just an efficiency metric,
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  Speaker 7: and they had stars. Derek Brown is a star, j C.
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  Speaker 7: Horns his star, Mike Jackson tied for first in the league,
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  Speaker 7: and passes defense opposite him at corner. But there were
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  Speaker 7: still a lot of holes. And then they filled those holes.
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  Speaker 7: They added Jalen Phillips at pass rusher, who six in
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  Speaker 7: pressure rate league wide. Devin Lloyd not just the interceptions,
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  Speaker 7: I think he was fantastic in run defense. And suddenly
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  Speaker 7: you take a step back and you look at this
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  Speaker 7: depth chart and you realize there aren't many weaknesses, and
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  Speaker 7: they also have talented players now at all three levels
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  Speaker 7: out On top of that, Giro Evro, their defensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 7: I think is really smart, potentially a future head coach,
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  Speaker 7: and I think this is one unit that has the
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  Speaker 7: potential to really make the lead this season.
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  Speaker 8: Zero is so impressive when you sit with him.
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  Speaker 6: Forgett Yeah, we've been talking about him being a potential
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  Speaker 6: head coach candidate for years.
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  Speaker 1: That needs to happen at some point.
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  Speaker 8: I'm all on board with this In Carolina. I love
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  Speaker 8: the fact that they have a ball just hawk in j. C.
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  Speaker 3: Horn.
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  Speaker 8: They've got a physical defensive back in Mike Jackson. I
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  Speaker 8: think it really comes down to score in in Phillips,
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  Speaker 8: the two edge rushers, if they can be somewhat impactful
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  Speaker 8: as ed rushers, I think this has got a chance
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  Speaker 8: to be a top five defense in the NFL. We
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  Speaker 8: said it last year, I will reiterate it. Dereck Brown
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  Speaker 8: was one of, if not the best defensive.
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  Speaker 4: Tackles in football last year.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think he made the Pro Bowl, which is
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  Speaker 8: an absolute sin. If he has the same type of season,
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  Speaker 8: this is going to be a fantastic unit. They just
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  Speaker 8: got to get after the quarterback off the edge.
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  Speaker 6: More feels like they're starting to be more notice Mack
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  Speaker 6: and more attention for Derek Brown. Rightfully, so we've always
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  Speaker 6: said when nationally is he going to get more respect?
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  Speaker 6: You're starting to see the list say that a little bit,
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  Speaker 6: dan Orwawski with some big time praise there in the
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  Speaker 6: Jeremy Fowler list, they have three players ranked in the
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  Speaker 6: top ten of their position on defense. And that's not
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  Speaker 6: even counting Merry yet because we haven't seen the safeties
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  Speaker 6: and he was in the top fourteen last year. I
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  Speaker 6: would think he's got a chance to crack the top ten.
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  Speaker 6: So Horn Brown, Woyd, did he throw in Phillips and
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  Speaker 6: then marrig and these other guys Mike Jack top five
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  Speaker 6: though Mack would put them on a trajectory that even
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  Speaker 6: I think I've said, top ten, go in the South,
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  Speaker 6: get a top ten defense, and then try to get
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  Speaker 6: to the next round. If they're a top five defense,
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  Speaker 6: what does that do for the thoughts of what they
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  Speaker 6: can be this year?
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  Speaker 5: Man, I'm telling you I listened to that clip because
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  Speaker 5: you know, I feed off of nice things being said
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  Speaker 5: about my Carolina Kidney's phony all right, he started being nice.
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  Speaker 2: It's like propend in your tent, like.
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  Speaker 5: Give me another hit, give me another hit in that
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  Speaker 5: orlofsky strain. Y'all can't get enough of that? Let me
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  Speaker 5: get that times. Would I predict top five? Even Homer
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  Speaker 5: Mack probably wouldn't go there. What I've been saying is
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  Speaker 5: top ten, second part of the top ten. But do
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  Speaker 5: I love hearing it? Do I love hearing the hype
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  Speaker 5: that these two smart football people Bone see what we've
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  Speaker 5: done on defense and see that it's ready to make
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  Speaker 5: a jump. Yes, I love freaking hearing it. And I
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  Speaker 5: do think he has a point. And maybe this is
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  Speaker 5: the conversation that we can have with our fellow Panther
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  Speaker 5: fans is he says it's got a shot at top
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  Speaker 5: five if those ends Phillipson score and bring the pass
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  Speaker 5: rush and of course Bone. They were second to last
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  Speaker 5: in the league last year in pressure rate. It was
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  Speaker 5: a horrible pass rush really has been for the last
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  Speaker 5: few years. If you were to, if we were to,
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  Speaker 5: you know, kind of make the to do list for
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  Speaker 5: this defense, like clearly the pass rush, pass rush specifically
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  Speaker 5: without having the blitz has to get better. That's probably
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  Speaker 5: number one on the list, But like, what would you
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  Speaker 5: throw in there is like, Okay, they've got to do
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  Speaker 5: this specifically, and if they do this, defense is going
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  Speaker 5: to be lights out. Other than just getting that.
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  Speaker 6: Pressure off the edge, I think it's a continued the
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  Speaker 6: continued acceleration of the game of Mike jack. They mentioned
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  Speaker 6: him there, which I'm glad they did that. He got
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  Speaker 6: some run there. I think if Mike Jack back continues
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  Speaker 6: to play at his level, and you already know who
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  Speaker 6: Horn is, although Horn has to Horn's got to clean
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  Speaker 6: a few things up as well. It wasn't necessarily his
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  Speaker 6: best year. He does get really handy with some penalties.
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  Speaker 6: But if Mike jack continues to do what he does
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  Speaker 6: and they become that duo that we saw last year again,
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  Speaker 6: and then you've got the pass rush, then you've got
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  Speaker 6: the linebackers, then you've got married Then all of a sudden, Mac,
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  Speaker 6: where's the weakness on the defense? Because you've got you've
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  Speaker 6: got it covered up front with dB. You hope the
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  Speaker 6: edges do what they do. You've got the secondary, you've
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  Speaker 6: got the safety, you've got Woyd. Every area of the
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  Speaker 6: defense is starting to get Dudes, where you go. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: there's not a lot of weakness on this defense anymore. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 6: there's no doubt. And I had that on my list
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  Speaker 6: here of things that like, if you want to be
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  Speaker 6: a top five defense, what needs to happen. I got
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  Speaker 6: a lot of things on here, but one of it
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  Speaker 6: is Mike Jacks got to validate last season. Last season
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  Speaker 6: that is not that that was above and beyond the
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  Speaker 6: way he's played in the past. And it's funny because
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  Speaker 6: he got off to a slow start in a couple
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  Speaker 6: of those games early, right New England, Dallas, Miami, but
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  Speaker 6: after that it was lights out.
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  Speaker 2: It really was. You also have to be healthy.
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  Speaker 5: Right, We're getting deeper, but I'm not gonna con myself
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  Speaker 5: into believing Bone we can be fit in the NFL
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  Speaker 5: if we have key injuries to the key guys, and
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  Speaker 5: we all know who those guys are, You've got to
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  Speaker 5: stay healthy. I also think Bone they've got to get
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  Speaker 5: better against the run. I think they were twentieth last
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  Speaker 5: year in the league against the run, way better than
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  Speaker 5: the year before when it was the worst run defense
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  Speaker 5: in the history to freaking sport without Derek Brown. But
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  Speaker 5: a guy like Lee Hunter could be big a guy
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  Speaker 5: like Bobby Brown, you know what I mean? I thought
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  Speaker 5: he flashed at times, But like, can you be that dude?
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  Speaker 5: We don't have Ashan Robinson. Can you be a force
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  Speaker 5: up front against the run like we signed you to be.
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  Speaker 5: But if you get better against the run, like if
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  Speaker 5: you become top ten run defense, well then all of
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  Speaker 5: a sudden, the teams are in second long, then they're
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  Speaker 5: in third and long, then the pass rush can tee off. Right,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like too much bone when we struggle and
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  Speaker 5: don't get pass rush is because teams are in third
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  Speaker 5: and three. You know what I mean, You can't pin
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  Speaker 5: your ears back. Let's get some dudes, Let's get some
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  Speaker 5: teams to third and night and let's go after it.
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  Speaker 6: Man the other safety spot, they don't need it to
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  Speaker 6: be spectacular. They just need to whether it's Nick, Scott,
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  Speaker 6: Ransom Weekley, I don't know whoever ends up getting the
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  Speaker 6: majority of the snaps there. They don't need spectacular play.
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  Speaker 6: There are other guys in the secondary are are good
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  Speaker 6: to great at times. They just need someone in there
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  Speaker 6: to hold their own and don't get don't become burnt
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  Speaker 6: toast back there.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I think that nickel spot's important though, right, like,
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  Speaker 5: can you get a third?
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  Speaker 6: I love Corey Thorton is my man. I'll talk about
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  Speaker 6: the other safety spot I would love. I'm okay, okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The safety spot Nick Scott.
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  Speaker 5: I know I'm gonna get hate mail for this, but
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  Speaker 5: I thought Nick Scott was all right last year. You
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  Speaker 5: can't be elite at every position on the defense, but
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  Speaker 5: you know, piggybacking off safety. I also think the nickel
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  Speaker 5: cornerspot is important, and I think Corey Thornton could take
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  Speaker 5: that position to a new level. I think I think
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people forget Canalis mentioned it in the
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  Speaker 5: offseason he had stolen that job from CSW and then
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  Speaker 5: promptly gets hurt right after it. I think he's a
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  Speaker 5: guy will Lead's an interesting guy as well. I think
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  Speaker 5: they're gonna be better at that position as well. To
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  Speaker 5: be man, check and see if Mac is wearing pants here, baby,
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  Speaker 5: I stayed. I am in a lather over here. I
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  Speaker 5: am hot and bothered. After dan Orlowski said we might
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  Speaker 5: be a top five defense, what do the Panthers have
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  Speaker 5: to do to be top five? This two guy says,
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  Speaker 5: I'm a diear Panthers homer season ticket, older since the start,
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  Speaker 5: we ain't gonna be a top five defense.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go.
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  Speaker 5: He he threw all his fan credentials out there to
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  Speaker 5: say we won't be top five.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, would I bet? Would I bet my money?
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  Speaker 4: Bone?
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  Speaker 2: Would I bet my significant line? Oh you would not.
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  Speaker 5: But I bet my seven cents that we're not gonna,
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  Speaker 5: you know, be it. We're gonna be top ten? Probably not,
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  Speaker 5: But what if they were top seven? I think they
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  Speaker 5: can be in. I think they can be in the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 5: And again, if everything goes right, if all these things, like,
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  Speaker 5: I want to see what a Varro does with blitzes too.
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  Speaker 5: Like last year, unfortunately Bone, we didn't get pressure near
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  Speaker 5: enough with the four man rush. A Varro ended up
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  Speaker 5: being in the middle of blitz percentage, like fifteenth. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not sure he wants to blitz that much. But they've
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  Speaker 5: got a bunch of good blitzers. Lloyd's good at it,
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  Speaker 5: Merrick's good at it, Horn's good at it. They've got
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  Speaker 5: a bunch of dudes that can blitz. So I'll be
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  Speaker 5: even Trevin Wallace has had success at it. I think
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  Speaker 5: the key is the timely blitzes, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: Like and I don't think they're going to be over
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  Speaker 5: and over again blitz team. I think they're gonna get
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  Speaker 5: even better bone at taking away explosive plays. They were
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  Speaker 5: twelve last year an explosive play rate allowed, and that's
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  Speaker 5: a big feature of a Varro's defense, right the vic
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  Speaker 5: Fangios game, the umbrella coverage, keep everything underneath. I think
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  Speaker 5: they can get better at that with improved personnel. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I just I can't wait to see Devin Lloyd patrol
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  Speaker 5: in the middle of the field.
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  Speaker 6: And who's been a highlight machine in terms of takeaways
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  Speaker 6: and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: Last year. We're just second in interceptions last year as
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  Speaker 2: a linebacker.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sure you know this in the top of your head.
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  Speaker 6: Where did the Panther's rank in turnovers force last season?
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  Speaker 6: Do we know they were? I looked it up yesterday,
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  Speaker 6: fifteenth and that gay, that's an improvement for where it was.
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  Speaker 6: That can get Yeah, it was, but that can get better.
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  Speaker 6: Like third down defense they were thirtieth last year. That
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  Speaker 6: can get better by simply having to Orlowski's point, by
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  Speaker 6: getting actual pressure on the quarterback, you'll force more turnovers
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  Speaker 6: Bone if you get more pressure, which jayme Phllips is
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  Speaker 6: here to do. You've set it all off season.
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  Speaker 5: Doesn't it feel like Nick Gordon will build off what
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  Speaker 5: he did last year and be even more of a force.
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  Speaker 5: You get Pat Jones back. Princely's a forgotten man unless
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  Speaker 5: you're on Twitter. But like, let's not forget get the
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  Speaker 5: elite talent, spin move and pass rushing ability he has.
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  Speaker 5: So you get more Russier or elite, more rusher on
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  Speaker 5: the passer, more Russia and pressure on the passer. All
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  Speaker 5: of a sudden, to your point, turnovers go up and
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  Speaker 5: third down stops go up.
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  Speaker 6: Man, this uh texter wants us to stop talking Panthers
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  Speaker 6: so we don't jink some So that, sir, that's not
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  Speaker 6: really gonna be how this operates. I don't know if
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  Speaker 6: you're new here, what do you what do you want
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  Speaker 6: us to do? Just not talking about the football team
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  Speaker 6: in the city.
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  Speaker 2: How's that? How's that gonna work? Another?
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  Speaker 4: You know what?
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  Speaker 5: In a way we probably help, but we can't do that.
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  Speaker 5: He wants measured Mac. This guy said this extra says
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  Speaker 5: where's measured Mac? Feels like he's left the building. You go, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I gotta feel they win the division. It's what do
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  Speaker 5: you want me to come back and be like, eh,
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  Speaker 5: maybe seven eight went like, I can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: We have to win this division. We've got to keep improving.
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  Speaker 6: I'll get your back, though, measured, Mac, you did say
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  Speaker 6: that you weren't going to be measured much longer right
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  Speaker 6: after a last season. Wasn't that a one year thing?
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  Speaker 6: And you said that next year you're probably gonna be.
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  Speaker 5: I actually think measured. I think can I not be
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  Speaker 5: measured and think they win ten games? I feel like
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  Speaker 5: that's a measured take. I don't think it's anything. Homer homerrific. No,
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  Speaker 5: Fitty's the Homer. He's got him at eleven.
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  Speaker 4: Who's that a homer?
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  Speaker 9: Though there's logic behind the eleven win projection. They've won,
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  Speaker 9: they've increased that. They've increased the win total by three
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  Speaker 9: in each of Canalis's first two seasons. He inherited a
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  Speaker 9: two win team and went to five.
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  Speaker 6: So you think they're gonna be a fourteen and then
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  Speaker 6: seventeen and can keep on going.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, vision they're gonna go seventeen and oh, then they'll
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  Speaker 9: probably lose in the playoffs. Then they'll go twenty and
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  Speaker 9: oh and become the first twenty and oh team in
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  Speaker 9: NFL history, and then they'll have to start going undefeated
• 15:35
  Speaker 9: in the preseason to go twenty three.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: And oh, like Kanther Fitty got it all mapped out.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: You know what's a method to my madness?
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: Anther Fitty, bring your bravado. I'm here for I'm here
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: for it, VP I ninety one things. Measure Back got
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: left on the cruise show.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: He said, Skinny Mack and measured Mac got left there back.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Threw measure back off the side and said, I'm back baby.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, threw that guy overboard.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: Another Texter, Matt se how Max said, dan Orlowski and
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: Mina are very smart football people after they said something
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: good about the Panthers.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: But they are smart people. But it just so happened.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: I really wanted to emphasize that because of what they
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: said about the Panthers.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: All right, we come back.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: Another smart person from ESPN, Taylor Tannebaum, is in Charlotte
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: for acc Kickoff Week. She gives us a preview of
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: the season and what's going on all week. Got there
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: here in Charlotte on Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ, Mac and Bone with
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: you all right. Not only are we a week away
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: from the Panthers reporting to training camp next Wednesday, it
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: is go time today. Today is day one of the
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: ACC Kickoff. Are real close to Jim Phillips doing his
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: presser to get the festivities going. Dave Dorn and NC
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: State will be there, the vaunted Miami Hurricanes Mario Cristopaul
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: and Bone's former favorite quarterback Darian Mensa will be there.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: I'm sure he'll answer some interesting questions.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: First Toss, HiT's the breakup? You go?
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: What's he got to say for himself? Bone Boat, We'll
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: be listening and you should go down there just grilling
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: with a duke cat on committed to me and then
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: he left. Just can you go in full duke gear
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: and just literally grill him during the presser.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: With Virginia Tech gear underneath.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: This is duke gear. Remember this, hey, But I'll tell
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: you who else will be there. Our next guest will
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: be there. She will be a part of the coverage
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: that starts top of the hour nine o'clock runs to
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: four o'clock every day of Kickoff. ACC kickoff here and
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Charlotte today, Tomorrow and Friday. She's gonna be busy, but
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: she's nice enough to stop and chat with us here
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: on the Mac and Bone Show. She is Taylor Chan
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: and Baum from the ACC Network in ESPN. Taylor, how
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: was your summer and are you ready for football talking?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I am so ready. Summer was great, did some traveling,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: did some hanging out. It feels like i haven't worked
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: in one hundred years, so I'm ready to get back
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: on the desk. And ACC kickoff is earlier than it
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: has been in years past, so it feels like we're
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: getting started at a much faster clip this year. But
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. We're like double digit days
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: away from kickoff and it starts week zero for this league.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: So I'm pumped.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: It's here in Miami. Is up today? Mac benched, Darien
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: Mensa and Crystal Ball. How high up the list when
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: you look at national title contenders? How high up the
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: listy do you put Miami in that group?
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I put them higher than a lot of other people
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: are putting them. I think, you know, ESPN even has
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: them around seven, you know in the preseason early rankings
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: of where they stand, and that's your national runner up
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: who I would argue, with all due respect to Carson Beck,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: who I love and I think really exceeded expectations this
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: last year. They've leveled up at quarterback with Darien Mensa.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: You have a year two Malachi Tony, who was arguably
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the best player in the country at wide receiver last year.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: He's going to be a sophomore and he has help
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: around him.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Cooper Barcade also comes from Duke and joins Darien Mensa,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: and they had an incredible relationship in their first year
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: at Duke together from quarterback to wide receiver. I think
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that only translates even more this year. And I know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you know a lot of people will say that they
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: lost some dogs, especially defensively, a couple of first round
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: picks on that D line in Ruben Bain and a
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: key messador. But there have been dudes that Mario Christobal
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: has been recruiting since twenty twenty two that have been
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: waiting their turn, who have been in rotations, just haven't
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: had these increased roles. It's sort of the old school
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: way of doing it, guys. We don't really see it
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: where you can kind of stockpile talent and I wait
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: your turn. But that D line has a ton of talent.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: We just haven't really seen on a consistent basis yet,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: so it's going to be up to them to perform
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: right And I don't think you're going to have that
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: same duo, But if you can do it by committee,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: then why not Miami? So I think I would put
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: them in a top five, if not top two at.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: This point, Taylor, we've spent a lot of time talking
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: about Miami. It's funny how I used to hate on
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: the Canes and now they are there ballers there. Don't
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: need to tell Florida State grad that, but now all
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: of a sudden they are the big dog for the ACC.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: They proved themselves last year and I want to see
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: them represent again. But there's been a lot of talk about, Okay,
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: below them, who's that next group?
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: But I forget who did this.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: I wish I could give the proper attribution, but it
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: was someone on Twitter, the Coverers, you know, a team
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: in the league or the league or something, and they
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: did that kind of tier rankings for the ACC and
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: they had Miami by themselves, which I think makes sense.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: But that second tier was Louisville, Miami and Clemson. Would
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: you do that? Would you go through would you go
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: all three of them a second tier? Would you put
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: anyone else? How would you do a second tier at
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: the ACC? Wait?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Year a second?
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: So it's loam. Yeah, as on their own standalone up top,
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: and then the second tier all together were Louisville SMU
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: and they put Clemson in there too, which I thought.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Was was interesting.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's just a respect thing too.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: And when you look at a big picture, you know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: if you were to perform, you know, in a scientific world,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you know, or a mathematics world, like you're looking at
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: data points right and a big field of data instead
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: of just like an anomaly with one year, And that's
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: sort of what seven and six was at Clemson. You're
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: going to see if it starts to become a trend.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: But at this point it is an outlier on a graph.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: They have fourteenth straight you know, nine win seasons. The
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: seven and six is very uncharacteristic of a Davos Sweeney squad. Now,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the landscape has certainly changed over the course of the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: last five years. Can this be the year that they
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: revert back to course? They've made some changes with Chad
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Morris now back as the OC and Tom Allen in
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: year two, and a lot of coaches will tell you
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: you know, when you have a new defensive coordinator, it
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: can take a year to really implement a couple of
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: years to really implement that system and get it right.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: No question, they have the talent, can they execute on
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the field better, And no doubt it starts up front.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher is going to talk about it today. He
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: talked about it in our meeting yesterday when Clemson was elite.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: It started in the trenches. They have the bodies, but
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: what does it look like on the field? And that
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: was the biggest most confusing thing last year, right guys,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: was like, we know they're talented, but like what's going
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: on out there? So I would still keep them in
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the second tier because of the proven track record. They
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: did go into the portal double digit portal editions this year,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and you have dudes at some key positions linebacker, wide,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: receiver that can really emerge and become great as long
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: as everyone plays their role.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: Taylor, what do you think about NC State entering the season?
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: We know how good the quarterback is. Do you think
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: there's enough around CJ. Bailey to make this a successful
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: year for the back?
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I do I do Now does that translate again onto
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the field, I'm not sure. I do think they have
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: a schedule that can allow them to have some success,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you know, I know Dave Doran would probably prefer to
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: not have us talk about it, but also like they
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: do deserve some credit. I think Dj Elliott obviously had
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: been going through some things. He'll be better for it
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: this year. Kurt Roper is back in that offensive coordinator
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: role once again, so I just think there can be
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: some growth there. CJ. Bailey's elite, and I do think
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: they added some playmakers, some key playmakers. Duke Scott showed
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: some real flashes at running back last year. He's going
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: to have an increased role, and then and a wide receiver.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: You add guys for Miami, a guy like Jojo Trader,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: who CJ. Bailey played with in high school. Like they
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: already have a very very proven track record together. So
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I do like what mc State has done in the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: offseason defensively or where most of my question marks are
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: because it's just been such a shift over the last
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: couple of seasons defensively, But I do think there's potential
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: with mc State and they could teeter on that second
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: third tier like it, You're gonna find out what they
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: can be. But when you have a quarterback, you can win.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And they have a CJ.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: Bailey Taylor year two Bill Belichick, there's way less fanfare,
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: and maybe that's a good Maybe that's a good thing.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Maybe that's a good thing. Do you think, like, will
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: they be better? And the question is like, will it
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: be significantly better?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Do you think?
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I wish I could answer that question for you, because
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: this roster is a roster that quite literally it's not
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: just me. Nobody knows much about it except for like
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: watching film on some of these transfers. They have a
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: ton of freshmen coming in ten from the ESPN three
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: hundred or next three hundred. You know that are going
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to have to play important roles. So do I think
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: it will be better than four and eight? It should
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: be like that should not be the standard you have,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: you know, a competition at quarterback with some players who
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: have played college football before. I just I don't know
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: what it looks like with Bobby Petrino as OC. I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: know they can put up the big numbers, but does
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that mean they win? The defense looked nothing like a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick defense last year. There were mistakes, there were snaffoos.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: It was just not what you'd expect from a coach
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: who was so buttoned up at the NFL level. But
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: then again, this is the college level. It's different, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: these are young talented players, sure, but that needs to
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: be developed, keyword developed. So what happened in this offseason
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: with some of the development of these young players, I'm
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: not sure. But I can't even put an expectation on
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: it because I have a zero what this roster looks
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: like altogether on a football So not even a semblance
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: of an idea.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: That's a fair We will not We do not thrill
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: you and get mad at you. That is fair in
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: this Belgie's met some of the guys yet Taylor, many
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Dias and Duke, they've exceeded expectations both in his first
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: two years.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: They've gone They've won eighteen games. They've gone above and
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: beyond what we thought in both years. Can can they
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: do that again? Or is this going to be a
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: tough one based off what they lost and a lot
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: of what they lost to Miami also playing a factory.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, I think they lost quite a bit. And
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: here's the thing on contrary to what I just talked
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: about with Bill Belichick, like they play some pretty clean
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: football and man ideas is going to have them buttoned
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: up and ready to go. And I think that's part
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: of why they've had so much success, is they're good
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: where like in those small margins a lot of the times.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know there were some questionable interceptions last
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: year and maybe cost them a couple of games, that
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: they were right in all of those if it weren't
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: for some of those turnovers. I think, you know, he's
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: a great coach and that's what he does best is
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: getting the best out of the most talent of some
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: of these players who may not be the four and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: five star recruits. So I think they will do that again.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know that you would have seen them in
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the ACC Championship at seven and five without that tie
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: break situation, which I think there will be potential for
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: some announcement this week.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: But OK, I was going to ask about it.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I would assume at some point they did say they've
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: been talking about it and that announcement is to come.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: So it with seasons just around the corner, so I
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: don't know what it looks like, and they deserve credit,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: you know, they won the ACC. They beat a Virginia
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: team in that championship game Farren Square after playing them
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks prior. I do think though,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: when you lose your quarterback and your top playmaker as
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: late in the game as they did, it's tough to
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: recover from. But if anybody, as a head coach, King
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: had his team ready to be the best that they
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: could possibly be, it's going to be many DEAs.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: Taylor, how fired up are you for James Franklin and
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: the ACC and Virginia Tech getting back to a level
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: that they were at for so long?
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I'm fired up, I really, You know, that's one you
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: can say, like, obviously it's quote unquote a rebuild, but
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: you have a coach who has done this everywhere he's gone.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: You have the investment now from Virginia Tech and the
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: backing and millions and millions and millions of dollars and
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: resources and all the things you can possibly ask for.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: They have the.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Sixteenth ranked quote unquote newcomer class per ESPN, which is
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: transfers and freshmen coming in. James Franklin can get the players,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: and I think that they can execute on the field too,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: and it starts at the quarterback position. Ethan Grunkeemeyer did
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: prove some things at Penn State when Drew Aller went down,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't perfect, didn't always result in a win,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: but there was a ton of success in terms of
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: his position, and he only got better as the season progressed.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: And I think his quarterback coach came along with him.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: Obviously.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: The head coach is James Franklin, once again the guy
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: who recruited him. So I think you're going to get
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the best out of him, and I have real faith
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: in this Virginia Tech team early. The start is going
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: to be so important. That's been there Achilles Heal the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: last couple of years. Man, like when you think they're
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: going to start four and oh they start one in
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: three or two and two and then it just kind
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: of snowballed from there. That cannot be the case this year.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: But man, that energy is real, it's palpable, and the
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: expectations should be high, especially in this league.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: No, No, that's huge for the conference getting a coach
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: like that, man, and huge for the conference. All right,
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: T Squared, we appreciate it. We know you're going to
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: be working. You went T square? Is he that or
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: double tent? Are either squared? Are either of these nicknames?
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: T squared or double T? Or am I making stuff up? No?
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: T squared?
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I've been called plenty of times, double T, KT, Ta
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: tan all whatever you want.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: You got it. It all works.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: It all works, and you can watch whenever you caller.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: You can watch her on ACC Network nine am to four.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: The whole crew hunker down here in Charlotte ACC Media
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: Days for the next three days. Taylor, thank you so much,
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: appreciate it. Have fun this week.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you guys.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: Calculator do good.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: There you go, all right, there you go, T square,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: double T.
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: All right, glad I could finally get some Virginia Tech
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: respect on this show.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Hockey Bone.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you you are leaning into the Hockey Bone accusation.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: Now because here's here's the problem. You are still bitter
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: that it ended poorly for James Franklin. So I have
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: to be the one here, the class guy here to
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: ask about Virginia Tech. And I noticed you always leave
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: that one there towards the end, and I have to
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: be the one to do it. This is strategy by you.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: I was getting to them, but you know, it every
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: time you beat me to it.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: You're so eager.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Talking about your home.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: Always ends up on the turnaround. It's me because you
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: know what you want to do. You want to frame me.
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: You're a framer. I frame me as a hockey fan.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: I didn't create the narrative. This came from a Texter.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: Now it might be I further review, it might be
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: a Clemson fan. It happened yesterday with West Urham when
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: for the first time and I don't even know how long,
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: we did an ACC football interview and we didn't ask
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: about Clemson. So I think it might be a Clemson fan.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: The name they didn't get talked about and called you
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: Hokey Bone because you ask every guest. It's probably also
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: because you were gone last week and we did a
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: bunch of interviews, and I obviously I'm asking double questions
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: while you're gone, right, so I had to eventually ask
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: about them.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: In most interviews last week, Yeah, you.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: Asked four questions I asked for normally, depending so last
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: week I had double the questions, so I had to
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: think of more stuff to ask. So I'd ask about
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: Virginia tap because I think it's a big time storyline.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: You got.
• 31:45
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• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Matt, did you when you were gone last week?
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: Did you see the report that they were trying to
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: send over the legal issues with Kawhi Leonard to Toronto?
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: So the Clippers are doing the shady stuff with the Raptors,
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: would have to end up if they end up with
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  Speaker 6: Kawhi Leonard being the person the team responsible for what occurred.
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  Speaker 2: How does that operate? That's a that's a that's a
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  Speaker 2: sneaky one.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: That's the old But then and the tailpap move right there, man,
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: that doesn't seem right.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: So John Gruden Man, all right, we come back.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: We're gonna do ask the audience here on the Mack
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: and Boa, Joe Magen made his BUCkies debut last week,
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: and he's got opinions about it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I got a hot take.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: He's got some hot takes about BUCkies that some may
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: not agree with. And I desperately need help with Murphy,
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: my puppy, before he completely eats me.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Fourth Radio WFNZ eight.
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  Speaker 5: and Bone Hanging out with you. Willie p gonna join
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: us top of the hour. We will go all over
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: the place with him, as we always do. We're gonna
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: have some fun. But there is FC news, right, You've
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: got the Saint Maximum signing, which I know he's gonna
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: be pumped about. And then there's also the the the
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: doing away with the PSLs, which I think is a
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: very fan friendly move. So we'll get into that stuff
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: and more with the p man here. Uh, we'll talk
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: more ACC football. The ACC is in town. I guess
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: they're always in town, Bone, because their offices are here now.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: But you know what I'm saying, the ACC kickoff.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Everybody's in town with them. That's what I'm trying to
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: spit out. Thank you for picking me up there.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: Alright, let's do a quick double ask the audience here
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: not to be confused with double tea Taylor Tannebaum. Let's
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: do a quick double ask the audience. I am finally
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: Bone a BUCkies experienced man. All right, I have met
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Bucky the Beaver. I completely forgot about this until yesterday.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: On our way down there where we drove down to
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Port Canaveral, we stopped in Brunswick, Georgia at this BUCkies.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: So I wanted to talk about this with people who've
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: experienced BUCkies. It's gotten so hyped up. I know people
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: swear by it. We went there. First of all, there
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: is a traffic jam getting off the exit. You are
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: at a standstill on the ramp trying to get off
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: the exit to get to go to BUCkies. So you
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: get out of traffic to go get into more traffic. Well,
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: there's no We were flying on it. I mean you're
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: on the highway, get over there to get into traffic.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: You're flying on ninety five. But you can't even like
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: it's it's a You barely get on the exit ramp
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: to see and it was when we drove past it
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: on the way back was the same way on the
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: other side. This place is ginormous, but it is packed.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: I mean you there are so many cars in this
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: giant parking lot and you get into the Bucky store
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: and it's like wall to wall people. Man, it is crazy.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Now it is remarkable, like it is. Make it the
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: eighth Wonder of the World, because how the heck is
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: at a gas station slash convenience store with all they
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: sell like it's part Walmart, part QT, part I don't
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: even know, like and it did. And I will say
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: this in fairness, bone, I could not have the full
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: BUCkies experience because we had already eaten lunch. So I'm
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: sitting there looking at their barbecue being cut up. I'm like,
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: that looks freaking good for a gas station. Like the
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: brisket and stuff it looked good. And they had a bakery.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: Stuff looked good. But I, you know, we already had lunch,
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: so I couldn't have the full experience. I think BUCkies
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: is overrated after my first review, interested I think BUCkies
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: is overrated. First of all, go scratch yourself.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: It's if you're going to stop there on a road trip,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: get ready to spend a half hour at your stop.
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: I got to in and out, go get some gas
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: and a drinking like you normally would it. You have
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: to carve out what thirty minutes an hour or more?
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: Maybe that's what I understand about this, say.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: A half hour like so like it's kind of as
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: annoying in that respect, Like and we don't have a
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: Bucki's near us, Like if there's a BUCkies down the
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: road in Indian Trail and I could stop there.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: I'm not in a hurry, but like, if you're in
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: a hurry and travel y'all need to tell me that
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: BUCkies and like you still like going to BUCkies over
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: and over again? Like and here's the thing that got me, Bone,
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: I didn't realize this. I go to get my mountain dew.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I have long called diet do the nectar of the gods.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: Bro they only have coke products. What they have an
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: exclusive deal with coke? It's coke and then their own
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: they have, like Fountain sodas like their own brand. What
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: kind of convenience store has everything around?
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Bone?
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: I think you could get one of those drunk raccoons
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: holing God for seven or fifty dollars in Texas, but
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: you can't.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Buy a mountain do. What world are we living in?
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: So? I don't know if anybody else does anybody else
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: share these sentiments like it's overrated, like you.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Want to see it once?
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: It is amazing, but like do you want to keep
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: going over and over again? It feels like such a
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: freaking hell. I was gonna ask you, would you ever
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: stop again? Or would you just assume go to your
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: go to your QT and make it a quick and
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: so it's a one time thing.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Unless you live near it, then it's like you go
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: in there and let get into the beaver nuggets and
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: let me get a brisket.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: I think you hit on it. I was asking you yesterday.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: What I know it's a huge store, but what exactly
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: is the appeal? It's just just the mass amount of stuff.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: I guess, like, what is the appeal? It's giant. You
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: will not you will not freaking believe it. And it's
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: it does have like their own bake stuff, their own barbecue.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: Like what else did they make in there? Fit the
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: beaver nuggets are are a big attraction.
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah, they got their own line of beef. They have
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: a wall of beef jerkey. Oh, I got all the
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: different flavored beef jerky. I don't like beef jerky, so
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: I wouldn't appeal to me. Yeah, but I can't. I'm
• 39:14
  Speaker 9: not a jerky guy.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: You're not a jerky Boy's talking about the guys that
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: you suit?
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: A phone call pranks? All right, you want to talk
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: about you? This time?
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: On my drive to Nashville tomorrow, there's one uh on
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: the way BUCkies maybe, uh, maybe it'll cross my path.
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: I don't know, we'll see.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's you gotta do it.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: Like I understand why people like you gotta do it,
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: but like, do I want to go back there again
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: on a road trip.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: Well, you messed up by not if you knew you
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: were stopping at BUCkies, Like if you knew this was
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: this was part of y'all's way back.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: We really didn't know it. You know, really didn't know it.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: You should have.
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: You should have allowed yourself to be able to eat
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: the food.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Because the brisket is back.
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: It's phenomenal, like and then they've got they've got a
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: three meat sandwich.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: That's what my dad got when I went with them.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: It did look legits pumps. Yes, it's just huge, man,
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: But it's just it's too much if you're on the road.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: I just think it's too much, you know what I mean. Now,
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: your son was not enjoying it. He was worse than me.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: He refused to get anything because my I don't know
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: if anybody has a kid like this, because this is
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: weird for him to be sixteen and be like this.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: He does not want any stops on the road trip.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: He wants to get to his destination. He's not driving.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: Keep in mind, missus, Mac wouldn't let either one of
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: us take the wheel the whole trip there or back.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: But anyway, yeah, he just hates it. He wants to
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: get there. Don't you want to eat? I'm like what
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: kid thinks. So anyway, there's a lot of people agreeing.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: There are some people saying, uh, like Fiddy said, how
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: can Mac judge it when he didn't have their original food.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: It's just it's still a hassle, big cat dance like
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: it's not over overrated. You were just overwhelmed, is what
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: he was saying. Walker watching Red on a Sunday, I
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: don't know.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: If I'm on a road trip I want I'm not sure.
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying I'm going full not junior, but if
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: I'm stopping for a drink or gas, I don't know
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: if I want to throw myself into a crowd of
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: people unless that was part of my trip, Like, hey,
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: we're gonna go to BUCkies and this is gonna be
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: an hour here. If I'm just stopping, I don't know
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: if that's my type of place, I'd want to just
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: go as quickly as possible and move move about my
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: day there, c B. I don't need a crowd of
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: people around me on my road trip. Oh, you wouldn't
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: do well with this. No, one wouldn't do well with this.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: CB from Charlotte macas I don't do well at shell stations.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: Mac hasn't been right in a long time. But you're
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: so right. BUCkies is a one time spectator event and
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: so overrated. This dude, said Mac thinks he knows BUCkies
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: didn't even grub on the brisket, shaking my head?
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Is it? Willie's a big BUCkies guy? Yeah? Yeah, Am
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I in trouble?
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: Am I gonna get lectured by the p manrespect buddies?
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah? This is come after wegmansto.
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: I didn't get a chance to ask about the dog situation,
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: but I can. I could just throw it out there
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: real quick, and so I adopted a bulldog terrier mixed
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: couple weastgo named Murphy. He's won, He's been rehomed twice,
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: so he's a little behind. I think in some of
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: the basics like leech walking and like just basic I
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: don't know, don't bite your owner repeatedly. He's gone from
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: nibbling one week to last week, he was pretty calm.
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: Now he's just straight up trying to bite me. So
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to look for dog trainers advice. It's one
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: thing to nibble. But yesterday like he was biting my leg.
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: He drew bought on my leg yesterday. Like he's now
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: getting like angry. Now, most people that live with me
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: get angry at some point, but this dude's onally been
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: there for three weeks.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: He's angry. I mean, is it? But they play? They
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: think they're playing though, right, and he's just a rough player.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Well I tried.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: I tried to do the trick that people tell you
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: to do with the spray bottle with the water bottle,
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: and this dude just freaked out.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: But yes, what does he do? He just like he
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: First of.
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: All, he he bat me in the corner and bullied
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: me and then he grabbed me by the pant leg
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: and bit my leg. He did not like the water
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: to the face.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Is this dog beating this dog is beating bone up? Fitty?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Do we need to call the authorities and report Murphy
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: the dog? I mean you bruises, yeah, I got scars.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: You gotta get a trainer out that's what my wife
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: was saying that to tell.
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: You, I fear back that I'm in a halter the
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: relationship right now. I don't know what to do. Yeah,
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: you do feel that you're like a victim. You have
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: that look in your eye like you're afraid to go home.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Mac is like, why is Bud still here? And I don't.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: I don't know what to do anymore, don't. I don't
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: want to give up on him because that's not fair.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't want that. I don't know.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Everyone loves them, but the guy.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: Do the in home trainers like the trainers like, I
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: don't know if anybody else out there has done no
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: person in your house, and they do it right there
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: in his environment. But he's got to know that by
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: is bad. Like these guys. You can't stop that behavior
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: on your own. That's gotta be trained out of him.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: Joe Person sent me his guy, So I'm gonna take
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: a look at this guy.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Here. Here you go, Yeah, there you go. Jump. He's good.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: If he's good enough for jumping Joe, he's good enough
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: for me. I like it. I like it. All right,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: we come back.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: Willie p Will address Matt calling BUCkies overrated, a big
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: signing for Charlotte FT and as obviously Panther Camp coming
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: on Willie p Next Sports Radio ninety two seven w FNZ.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Walker needs to see the beaver at BUCkies.