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Is All Music Black Music?!? Or Why Sinners Was Right!!! · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: What's up, y'all, Welcome to this episode of four All
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  Speaker 1: Nerds Show.
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  Speaker 2: On this episode, we discuss why every single genre of
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  Speaker 2: American music comes straight from black people.
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  Speaker 1: And What's up, y'all? Welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, once again, shout out to Mark from on
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  Speaker 3: Yes, oh my gosh, that's why I didn't know he
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  Speaker 3: was like a.
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  Speaker 4: Full time host.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tatiana King just learned about this, you know. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people just learned that Mark
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  Speaker 2: became a full time host.
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  Speaker 1: As I told Tatiana during the flat Earth Week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was ridiculous, which you also.
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  Speaker 1: Did not really know about, And I knew about it.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't really I didn't put tune two together that
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  Speaker 3: he was part of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So I just did.
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  Speaker 3: Not because once I heard what it was and I
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  Speaker 3: listened to maybe five minutes, I said, absolutely not. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: am I doing this with with these niggas?
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  Speaker 2: No, well as someone who I personally have had to
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  Speaker 2: deal with friends who are flat Earth supporters believers.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, I don't know what the
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  Speaker 1: word is exactly for them.
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  Speaker 2: I applaud mister hill Mark for holding his ground, for
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  Speaker 2: maintaining his calm, cool, collect itself while distressing this with
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  Speaker 2: these people who It's quite difficult, honestly to distressed with
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  Speaker 2: people because like when people do not believe in accepting science,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard to you know, like because like like in
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  Speaker 2: the classic jaz you know, men live, women line numbers
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  Speaker 2: don't lie. But when people believe that the numbers are lying,
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  Speaker 2: it becomes really hard to deal with them. Man, And
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  Speaker 2: I've experienced with not just for flat earthers, but which
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  Speaker 2: is a lot of lately, you know, ignorance in the world.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like I know you saw the shit about
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  Speaker 2: Harriet Tubman not existing.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I've heard it all, and I'm just tired of
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  Speaker 3: giving life to any of this shit. Same reason why
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  Speaker 3: I can't do the flat Earth conversations with nobody if
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  Speaker 3: we don't even agree on the basic premise that one
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  Speaker 3: pust one equals too, then what are we talking about?
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  Speaker 2: But see, the thing is like this is my thing,
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  Speaker 2: Like how do we like? I I waive for on
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  Speaker 2: the subject right because sometimes I feel like we need
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  Speaker 2: to reach these people and sometimes I feel like they're
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  Speaker 2: the people to Harriet Tubman with a shot.
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  Speaker 3: That's my point. What Harry it did and did? And
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  Speaker 3: I follow the same suits that don't y'all don't need
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  Speaker 3: to be saved.
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  Speaker 4: Y'all got it? See you at the end, my nigga,
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  Speaker 4: because you ain't making it.
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  Speaker 2: But like I said, so many people, so many people
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  Speaker 2: are my friends, and I've been trying to figure out, yo.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, like are they acquaintances and people you know? I
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  Speaker 3: think you might want to define the role of friend
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  Speaker 3: in your life because I don't know. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if I would classify that as a friend. Perhaps the
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  Speaker 3: person you know, perhaps a colleague, perhaps even a comrade
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  Speaker 3: at some point, but a friend, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: God damn.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these are all very wise words, folks. You
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  Speaker 2: know we might need to tip what you just said.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, even if you've known someone for
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  Speaker 2: a long time, which I have for these people. They're
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  Speaker 2: and comrades, like I would call you my friend, you know,
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  Speaker 2: my sister. Obviously, I would call people like Mellow, you
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  Speaker 2: know my friend and brother.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would call Luna, I would call I would
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  Speaker 3: call Joel my friend.
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  Speaker 1: Like.
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  Speaker 3: Those are people I trust and have a conversation with
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  Speaker 3: and know that we may not have everything. But one
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  Speaker 3: post money goes too. That's that I think it takes.
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  Speaker 3: I think people have to stop letting shit slide, and
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  Speaker 3: stop letting these flat earther niggas and randoms like that
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  Speaker 3: drag this shit. Like the moment they start saying one
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  Speaker 3: post one is three, you need to go. Thank you
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  Speaker 3: for your service. You're now relegated to someone I know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you this is not in your ministry to
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  Speaker 3: allow these people to be in your circumforts. Is they're
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  Speaker 3: going to completely rot your brain with all the nonsense
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  Speaker 3: that you have to think about and all the mental
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  Speaker 3: gymnastics you have to go through to communicate with them.
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  Speaker 4: And two it's just gonna make you. It's just gonna make.
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  Speaker 3: You upset as a person.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to be upset, Like I remember, like
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  Speaker 2: and you know who I'm talking about, you know, this
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  Speaker 2: a certain influencer we both talked about before and their ignorance,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and how we weren't going to have them
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  Speaker 2: on this show because we didn't want to spread their ignorance.
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  Speaker 2: But I was also at one point wanting to, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, not debate them, because when I actually did
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  Speaker 2: speak to.
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  Speaker 1: Them, I realized, oh my god, there was no debating.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's no debating stupidity. You know, I can't debate
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  Speaker 2: somebody who is, you know, like not educated.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I can't.
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  Speaker 2: I guess this is a perfect segue, Like I had
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  Speaker 2: a well, I don't want to talk about that just yet,
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  Speaker 2: so I won't segue it here just yet. So No,
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  Speaker 2: but talking to this person, I realized that it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: worth having them on the show because even though they
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  Speaker 2: are a nerd and a blurd, you know, it's just
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  Speaker 2: they have such diametrically opposed views, and I do not
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  Speaker 2: believe that their views may have any logic behind them.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing, Like I always like, I've.
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  Speaker 2: Been talking to someone who I can say is a friend, right,
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  Speaker 2: another person who is I could say as a friend,
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  Speaker 2: And we've been having a discussion and a disagreement over
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  Speaker 2: the idea of all cops are bastards. And it was
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  Speaker 2: funny today I shook a police officer's sayd. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this man probably seems like a nice drive, but you're
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  Speaker 2: still a bastard.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's like unfortunately, you know, like sorry, Braudy, you put
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  Speaker 2: on the uniform.
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  Speaker 3: You know, things could be true.
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  Speaker 1: Two things can be true.
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  Speaker 2: And that was the thing about, you know, the discression
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  Speaker 2: I was having my friend. We were going back and
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  Speaker 2: forth with this and while I was presenting numbers and
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  Speaker 2: he was like, well, I don't believe these numbers. At
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  Speaker 2: least he wanted to see, you know, debate the numbers.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't want to add like the numbers didn't exist,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: There's certain things that are irrefutable facts.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And.
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  Speaker 3: It's not an opinion, it's it's not even open to
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe. And that's where you lose me. You
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  Speaker 3: lose me. If we are debating on something that is irrefutable,
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  Speaker 3: you're not even debating. You're telling me your opinion that, well,
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe in it. Then this is not an
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  Speaker 3: opinion of logic. This is not an opinion. This is
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  Speaker 3: not a conversation of logic. It's not a conversation of facts.
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  Speaker 3: This is a conversation of you just coming out with
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  Speaker 3: anything out your ass and telling me why you don't
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  Speaker 3: believe in it.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's not like it. I can't have a conversation
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  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, there's no way. Now. So you're saying this
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  Speaker 1: about you know, flatter if not versus.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying this about niggas that don't believe that one
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  Speaker 3: pluson was two.
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about people.
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  Speaker 3: Who debate very proven common thing you mentioned at the top.
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  Speaker 3: You said science, So it could be flattering, it could
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  Speaker 3: be anybody.
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  Speaker 1: It could be any.
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  Speaker 3: Topic where it's just like bruh, it's not it's not really.
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  Speaker 4: Up for debate.
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  Speaker 1: But the ACA B I won't.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: That's an opinion.
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  Speaker 1: That's an opinion.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's fine.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: And again, I'm not talking about having people.
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  Speaker 3: I have friends where I have come vastly difference of
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  Speaker 3: opinions and right.
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  Speaker 1: I have friends who are cops, but.
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  Speaker 3: None of them say the Earth is flat. That's what
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  Speaker 3: That is the distinction that I am making.
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  Speaker 1: Damn man, I know I know some negroes. Then who.
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  Speaker 4: People.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Oh, I fuck with him on Tuesday when
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  Speaker 3: we go to the club together. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: This is also pretty true, sadly, you know. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they'll ever listened to this episode to know,
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  Speaker 2: because my friends listen to this show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, welcome to the four as.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was last week, you know we were distressing
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  Speaker 2: Mission Impossible. Yes, the final reckoning. And I've seen it.
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  Speaker 2: Tatiana had not seen it yet. You have now seen it.
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  Speaker 4: I have now seen it.
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  Speaker 2: In the time that you went and saw it, I
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  Speaker 2: went and watched three, four, five and six somethink. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like Mission Impossible down right now.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about it. How did you feel about it?
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  Speaker 1: And why? And it'ble Why isn't the worst one in
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  Speaker 1: the series?
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  Speaker 4: Why is the worst one?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? Why it isn't? And I think it is?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't disagree with you. However, do you want?
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  Speaker 1: Do you want?
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  Speaker 3: But before I get there, I want to give you
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  Speaker 3: my response to what the movie?
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  Speaker 4: How I feel about the movie? You want the good
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  Speaker 4: or the bad?
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  Speaker 3: First?
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  Speaker 1: I want the good first.
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  Speaker 4: First.
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  Speaker 3: I'll ask you and I'm gonna do what I want
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  Speaker 3: to do. I'm gonna do the bad the bad. It
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  Speaker 3: was much too long. It was much, much, much too long.
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  Speaker 3: Niggas could have cut out a whole hour and some
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  Speaker 3: change and it would have been fun easily, Like.
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  Speaker 4: Niggas, stop fucking talking, please.
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  Speaker 1: Flash back?
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  Speaker 3: Uh point that I think was on the bad side
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  Speaker 3: of the equation. Some of the cinematic directorial choices was
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  Speaker 3: maybe unintentionally hilarious, and I'm like, yeah, on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: So he he was like, you spent too much talk
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  Speaker 2: on the internet.
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  Speaker 3: Well that no, that's just typical popcorny. So that's not
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  Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. I'm talking about, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: certain cinematic slash directorial choices for a Hanflo there is
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  Speaker 3: a scene where they're doing a flashback because it's a
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  Speaker 3: it's an old character from like the first movie. I
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  Speaker 3: think it is the first movie.
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  Speaker 1: Thats God.
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  Speaker 3: They're doing a flashback about the scene that he's in
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  Speaker 3: in the first movie. And then one that scene is over,
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  Speaker 3: they literally do like a Looney Tunes like circle cut
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  Speaker 3: out back to Pryer and IM and I busted out laughing.
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  Speaker 3: I said, who's idea was that?
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  Speaker 4: And that and that, and.
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  Speaker 3: Again, I think it's the only time of movie they
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  Speaker 3: even used that effect. I don't even know what it's
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  Speaker 3: called CinemaScope. I don't fucking know. Yeah, but they used
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  Speaker 3: that effect. And then there's other points where they use
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  Speaker 3: these strange transitions where I'm like, is this a power
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  Speaker 3: point or is this a feature film?
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  Speaker 4: And I couldn't tell.
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  Speaker 2: Rewatching the old ones, there's a lot of but they
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  Speaker 2: were pretty fire, but there's interesting transitions.
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  Speaker 1: It was again of them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So honestly, that's where my quote bad stuff ends,
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  Speaker 3: the good for me, for me, the good that I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry to tell you. I thought it was lit.
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  Speaker 3: I thought the film generally speaking, besides all the other bullshit,
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  Speaker 3: I think I thought it was lit. I thought they
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  Speaker 3: went crazy on the action scenes, which is the main
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  Speaker 3: It was more than that, but it was the It
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  Speaker 3: was the main reason. Maybe only two you fucked with,
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: but there was more than two.
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  Speaker 1: See.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the way the movie was was constructed was crazy
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  Speaker 3: action scene, dumb long talking, dumb law, some weird transition
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  Speaker 3: about the past, Tom Cruise running, and an action scene.
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  Speaker 3: And it repeated that over and again.
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  Speaker 4: There was maybe four maybe.
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  Speaker 3: Five, but there was at least four action scenes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's like four. There's kicking on the ground,
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  Speaker 2: there's the underwater submarine crazy.
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  Speaker 4: There's the submarine.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's the planes. The planes is you know, one
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  Speaker 2: of the greatest things ever put the film.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's there's also something. Yeah, like there's a
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  Speaker 3: there's a car chase. There's there's this a whole bunch
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  Speaker 3: of stuff car chase. There's a car chase. And then
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  Speaker 3: there's what I did like about it is they have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of scenes where it's like everybody and the
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  Speaker 3: team is doing something like somebody's fighting this nig over here,
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  Speaker 3: and someone's trying to break out the jail over here,
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  Speaker 3: and another person trying to defuse a bomb over there,
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  Speaker 3: and it's just like, which I did fuck with like
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  Speaker 3: they because it shows that no matter where they are
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  Speaker 3: in the world, where they are in the mission, they're
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  Speaker 3: all still working as a team and they and the
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  Speaker 3: way that they shot at was was actually really smart
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  Speaker 3: and fun. The way they shot it, Like there will
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  Speaker 3: be a scene, for example, where Tom may go like
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  Speaker 3: he may be throwing his arm to give somebody a punch,
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  Speaker 3: and then the camera pulls back and as one of
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  Speaker 3: the girls like punching a bad guy, you know, on
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  Speaker 3: the other side of the of the room, and then
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  Speaker 3: like you know, something falling out the sky, and it
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  Speaker 3: switches over to someone on the other side of the world,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, catching something, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Like, but they all part of a team, they all
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  Speaker 4: doing shit like that. Shit was fire to me.
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  Speaker 3: And as mentioned, the actressies were incredible. That's why the
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  Speaker 3: fuck I came. I didn't really give a damn about
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  Speaker 3: the exposition. The story doesn't fucking matter, and I hope
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  Speaker 3: people understand that, and at least that's why I go.
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  Speaker 4: To the lotionem possible the story.
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  Speaker 3: When I say the story don't matter, like, there's always
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  Speaker 3: a premise of were trying to get this thing right.
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  Speaker 3: We're trying to get this mcguffin or whatever you want
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  Speaker 3: to call it. We're trying to get this rabbit's foot,
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  Speaker 3: We're trying to get this bag of money, We're trying
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  Speaker 3: to get this bomb, whatever it is. That's always the
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  Speaker 3: end goal at the end of the day is Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 3: what's all the stupid crazy action shit that they do. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: And they fulfill that for me, which is why I
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  Speaker 3: felt that this shit was lit.
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  Speaker 4: That being said, wasn't the worst out of the series.
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  Speaker 1: Yes see, that's what I'm saying, and that like and that's.
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  Speaker 3: Still fun or me, it was still very much fun.
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  Speaker 3: And I say worse out of the series. And I
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  Speaker 3: had to personally been I say that loosely because this series, yes,
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  Speaker 3: it jumped the shark years ago, but it had been
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  Speaker 3: typically lots of quote, corny things happening, corny dialogue, corny choices,
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  Speaker 3: and it's just that, I don't know, we just never
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  Speaker 3: noticed because when you went back and watched it, maybe
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  Speaker 3: you felt like the first the first few were still cool,
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  Speaker 3: but there's always been like some weird things going on
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  Speaker 3: as it progressed.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Now, First, I didn't watch the first one
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  Speaker 2: or the second one.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the that's the capitalist.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've seen him too many times and I don't.
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  Speaker 2: And the second one is the one that John Wu
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  Speaker 2: I think directed and a lot.
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  Speaker 3: And the one everybody hates.
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  Speaker 1: And there's good, but I just don't hate it. I
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: don't know, i'd have to why it was it?
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: To me, the series is like just like uh, fast
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: and furious where it really turns into something else. When McGee,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: the current director comes on. Because three is Philip Seymour Hoffman,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: which is a really kind of dark one, and like
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: phil Hoffman is like super villainous, but was.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Not also time when he passed too, so I think.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: He passes like uh year or two after that.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was close, It was close. It was somewhere close.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: So I remember it feeling even darker because of that.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he's really good. Re watching it, that
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: one is fired.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: It's very good, and it also.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like but that's what I'm saying, Like
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I re watching it, especially around three when he I
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: can't remember the woman's name, but when he gets married
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: in three and then he's retired and then Philip Seymour
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: basically drags him out of retirement, and then in four
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: he realizes, Okay, I can't stay married to this woman
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: and had you know, was keeping her at a distance.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: And then it goes into five, and I think it's
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: six with Henry cavill when Henry Caville at the very end,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: when like that was to me the best one because
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: it was like just pure action straight through Henry Cavill
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: as amazing as the villain. And then it kind of
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: wraps everything up. You get to see everybody, You get
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: to see Luther, you get to see Benji, you get
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: to see his e's wife again. He Rebecca ferguson the
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: new short he's with. They're like going off into the
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: sunset together. At the end of the film, his ex
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: wife is happy and it was like a perfect wrap up.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: But then that shit made so much money because that
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: was the illest one, and that he came back for
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: these last two, and to me, these last two have
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: been where it's like that's where it jumped the shark.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: For me, the last two have been where it's been
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: like they both had I want to see, now that
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: they're both out and we are talking about it, I
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: want to see the super cut where they cut out
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: an hour and a half of talking.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Out of this fuck at least an hour and a half.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, out of the two parts. Part one is
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: way better.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, Part one.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Is way but if you cut out an hour and
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: a half of the talking of this one and then,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: like the first one had to say, it's the same
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: damn story and it's not the same exposition, So cramm
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: them together and then I think you got a fire film.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, I would say I would agree with
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: with that.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Because when you rewatch the other ones, it's so crazy
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: that they went to just so much blah blah blah,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and the other ones are just like more quick, more action, morection,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: talk five minutes, somebody gets killed.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: He needs some breaks, hurts. Another thing why the movie
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: was this, this second Dead Reckoning whatever it was so long,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: is because half of it is just highlight reels. Like
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: it's literally Ethan Hunt highlight reel He's done for one
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: hundred years and like literally the clips from the other
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: and it's just like to me, it also takes you
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: out of it a little bit because remember these clips
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: are like twenty plus.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Years old, so yes, the way they look looks different.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Like it doesn't look like it's just looks like it's
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: not like he's sitting there watching it on a TV screen, right,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: It's just supposed to be his memories and like the
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: memory and I guess memories don't don't work that way,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: but the memories don't even match it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: But it's like one is then like one is it
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: like like ten eightp the other.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Ones in AKHD one before that, h's so weird.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: It's like the first Impossible is definitely shot on film.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: You know, probably the first three or so were probably
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: still shot on film, and now they're all digital and
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: various digital cameras.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: It was just jarring. I was just like, I feel
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: like I was watching ESPN. I was just like, wait
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: a minute, now, what are we Like, are they cutting
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: us out of the movie to be like, bruh, remember
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: when this nigga did that, Like they were and that's cool,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Like if you are a mission po so super fan,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: you're gonna fuck with it. But it was just it
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: just to me just bogged down the movie because even
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: though I was enjoying myself at the same token, I
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: was just like, Brad, the movie is still going.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: And my husband was that we look at him. I
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: was like, it's still going. We went to like the
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: latest showing in the city.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: We got out one am, and it was just like,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I think, like they knew how much exidition can we
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: sticking before the person starts falling asleep And at that
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: point through the actual scene, I.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Was like, oh my god, they're talking. They're talking.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: The submarine scene, Oh my god, my god, more talking,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: more talking, the bikel you know, like it was and
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: then what cracked me up the most about the film,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: it's just like it's just in ways the way that
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: it was trite was just like, yes, we noticed this
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: is in a possible situation the captains, and how can
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: we make it mowing possible? Yes, okay, felt like like
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: you sitting there like me and my husband did the
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: game with each other while we were sitting in the
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: theater after the fact, we were just like, yo, you
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: on an airplane, right, and you you hanging off the side.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: How can we make it more impossible? Let's break the
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: let's break the wing. All right, that's all right, that's cool,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: but that's not impossible enough. How can we make it
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: more impossible?
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Kive Gabriel nice? All right, all right?
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: And like it just keeps escalating, like someone was just
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: sitting there, like you could tell time was high as
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: fuck in the writer's room with them, and they was like, Tom,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: this is the idea we got. You know, you're going
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: down there in the summer. He goes, all right, guys,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: what about this?
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah? What about fine? Almost drowned, And it just kept going, It.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Just keeps it just and I'm not going to tell
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: everything because I want to give it away, but it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Just keeps escalating now and that's when it gets it
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: is related to the point of unbelievability.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Even though all these.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Films have that bit of curious levels.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Though what you said was really good, it's fast and
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: furies level unbelievabily like.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, And I feel like that's why I say that
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: the one with Caville is the one, because that's the
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: one where it's like Tom and Tom's at his peak,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the direct things at the peak, all the apt thing
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: is and it's the one where it's like, Okay, he
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: survived this, but this is when he should retire. And
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: then it's like even the ending of that one, it's
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: the same type of thing where Luther has to cut
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: this wire what's his name has to cut Benchi has
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: to cut a wire, Rebecca has to cut a wire,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: and Tom is on a cliff battling this nigga and
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: they don't even know what's doing all with Tom, and
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Tom has to pull the detonator out and they have
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: to wait and just hope that Tom is.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Pulling the detonator outcause they get even taught to Tom.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: And this keeps getting repeated movie at the movie I believe.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, why are you Yeah, and I'm saying, once
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: you did it an eight, you can't do it with
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: a didamn ai where they're trying to battle on Ai
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: for timing it just just like.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: Listen, I have fun.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: At the same time, I was like, God, damn, Tom,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: this was way too much. Thanks, thanks for your service
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: with Mike, Like it was, yeah.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Bodplane, shit is cracked.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: But bruh. All I got to say to y'all is
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: if you go for nothing for that movie, go for
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: the submarine. See that ship is insane. That is the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: most lit sets I've ever seen in my life on
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: some inception type ship. Like that ship was, y'all.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: I was bugged out, like what is going on? Like
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: this is this is fire.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: In that biplane scene again and the like and.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: You know, and then he's crazy so he does his
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: own stunts.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, in that one shot when
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: he is like wrapped up in the wings and he's floating,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: not touching anything, just.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: He's literally doing that.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that ship is and you know he's.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: King of cinema. I was still given that he is
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: king of cinema. You know.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I read something where they were like during pandemic.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: It was really allegedly, we're supposed we have Tom Cruiser
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: think for the movie industry still being up after pandemic,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: because they said during that time when all the suities
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: were shut down, he basically called it the studios and
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: lied and said, oh, his production company was still shooting
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: and like he was still he and what he did
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: was he kept dropping like seeds everywhere, like, oh y'all
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: not doing nothing. Well, my production hummy, were going full
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: were going full out. And then so everybody believed and
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: they're like, oh, fuck, Tom Cruise is still still filming
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: and he's still producing.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: We got it too, we can't get left behind.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: And then as a story allegedly goes like he did that,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: and then more and more suitors were like, well, shit,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: if Tom's going we can't you know, we got the
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: money too, So all the other studios came on board.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: And that's how it really like jump started the industry
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: to get back on board during or towards the end
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: of COVID. Well it's not really over, but y'all know
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: what I mean. But you know that's the other part.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: But but yeah, towards that that that the end of
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: that first two year period. Let's say that Yeah, yeah,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: COVID's still here, guys, still real, just saying superal. There
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: was one part though about this that you have mentioned
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: me in text, which was funny to me about the
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: whole scientific thing. Yeah, this ship, this nigga, he's been
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: a billboard for this from the beginning.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: It feels like he cannot contain it anymore. Like this,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: this one is the one where it turned into Tom
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: will save us all, you know, saying that I know
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: rewatching them.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous because even in eight his wife, you know,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: his ex wife tells him, you know, I sleep safe
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: at like knowing you're out there, you know, like he's.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Fucking Batman or whatever, like okay, my bigger Like he's
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: you know, get the Tom Cruise sign up.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: He's coming.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: He's gonna save us, Like I get.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: It, Yeah, I get it.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so they make him the messiah every time.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: And then also the whole stuff is about like it
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: seems like like not believe, Like there's no point of
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: science in the movie. If you notice that there's no
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: point of like the idea is like there's no bounds
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: to the human body, no Yeah, Yeah, that's very much
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: scientology type ship. And that's very much the mind in
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: most of the especially the later movies and this movie
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent ship that is not fucking possible is
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: just fucking happening by sheer fucking will alone.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: And it's mind boggling.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, and I had the realization today, like thinking
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: about Tom Cruise, that he might be the greatest action
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: star of all time.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I will give you that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: The only other person I could think of now because
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: you know me, I grew up on the Schwarzeneggers and
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: that was the only other person was because like I said,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I grew up on Fandamn, you know Etctera And the
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: only other person that I could put in Tom. And
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: it's so crazy because growing up, you know, when when
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Salon and was ruling.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: The world, Tom Cruise was.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Doing like Bartender movies and racing cars or I mean
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: he had top gun. But it wasn't like I would
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: ever think of him as an action star, you know,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: risky business, you know what I mean. Pretty and then
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: he transformed I mean, even the vampireless stack, you know
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I'm not thinking, I mean, he's
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: a great actor, but I'm not thinking to him as action.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: And now the only other person is Jackie.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Chan, Like that's the only thing that's doing his own
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: suns or did his own stunts, like.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and all that level of like and on that
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: level of like.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: And then I really gotta give it to Tom because
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I ain't never seen Jackie Chan dive out of a
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: plane like we watching the Henry cavill Win like, and
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I've watched them making of that shot when that man
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: jumps out of the plane and the cameraman jumped him backwards,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: like and I'm like watching to make it of it
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: to see.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: No, this ship is real plane.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: It's fucking real. And that's why I say he's king
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: of cinema. The spectacle is what it is. Listen, I
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: would say, like when we talk about the corn stuff,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: like the dialogue is just atrocious.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Giro is weak and that's that's the big problem.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: He's the funniest, like you you mentioned it very well.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: He's very like when you say he went beyond just
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: chewing the scenery like this Nigga was five when just
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: no this, No, he is so funny and high ridiculous
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: and diabolical. It is like the stuff he is saying
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: and doing and like he's like a like you ever
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: watched like Spyros Spy where they sneaking around and the
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: bill and that got that got that mustache and he's
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: just this nigga is like it's like that's I'm gonna
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: tie your girlfriend at the train tracks. And it's funny
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: as fun because it just does not belong in this
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: type of setting. But it just works because it's funny
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: and it doesn't make any sense, and he and and
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Gabriel stands out from everybody else. It's in terms of
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: from a character standpoint, like why'd you say that that's
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: a spoiler?
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: No, we gotta believe that that's a spoiler. No, no, no,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: they don't know that.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: All right, that's that's what but that that aside, No.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Can we just say this, that's hilarious? And he was ship.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: No that my man's was hilarious because his character just
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: didn't was incongruent to everybody else. Just he was just
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: out there like that man was out there doing ship
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: and I fucking loved it because it was so funny.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I can't all the other characters was cool. There was
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: there was one scene that really fucked me up, like,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I actually got sad because I like that character a lot,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: and I'm sorry what happened to him?
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: M hm oh yeah.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I with with Angela. Y'all remember that Angela. She was
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: the president the last month and she's president again. I
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: fucked with Angela. Bat with that. Mister Milcheck, for those
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: who watched the mil Check, is in this ship. His
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: role is cute, baby cute. I like it and I
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: just like him.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Did you keep Shorty to the other Shorty from uh Lumen?
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: The light skinned black woman. She was the helicopter pilot.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: It's a very quick role. I'm talking maybe one two scenes.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: But the light stin black women who works at loomin pretty.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Yes, I didn't know she was in there, the pilot.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: She's one of the pilots.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: You verify that, okay she is?
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I mean you know I pep there. Yeah, you know,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I beat there. I was like, okay, yeah, look at cutie.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: But she's very she's like it's the lighting.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: She looks you know, even paler in this like okay, yeah,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: so yeah.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I fuck with it.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Is Chamuel Jammell Tillman. I fuck with him a lot. Yeah, everybody,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: you know obviously the the whole cast, you know, the
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: big widow, all these people who've been there, you know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Captain Britain, all these people. I forgot her, but oh
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: a fast hands, Agent Carter. Yeah, Captain Britain. Yeah, funk
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: with Agent Carter. Like all the whole cast is great.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: The cast is great.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: That it's it's it's just ridiculous.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: That's gonna be my blurb. I'm rotten tomato. Should you
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: watch this movie? I'm gonna say yes. I would give
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: it a tomato, which means I give it it's good
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: for me. I would rate it.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: I was not raty to be, but from the whole franchise,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I would probably.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Say like C minus. Yeah, and then my blurb is
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: it's fucking ridiculous.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I would just rate it to C minus. In general.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I think I gave a D plus before, and it's
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: like right around there. You know, it's in that same range,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: just in general, and uh, except for these you know,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: except for the couple of action sees, it's just too
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: much fucking yapping.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And that's all I can say.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Great John Tom, Yeah, no more.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: No, I won't say that. I can't wait for the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: next on Tom bring it.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: You think he be in it because you know, they
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: they set it up so like, ok, is gonna go
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: on forever like fast and furious. So is he going
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: to actually be there though doing shit or he gonna
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: pop up at the end like surprise.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Nobody else is going to risk their lives like him.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: And I know he can't do it, but I'm just saying,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know who some.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Time a time when the scientology that's gonna run out
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: that I mean, you know what.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, he can't do it.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: This one was like you can't do it, you know
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: because like yeah, because like the sub ship had a
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: lot of you know, there was some you know.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I don't know how.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Many drugs this man was on to that this because
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: he's like eighty years old, So how is he? How's
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: he doing this?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I know, but no, And I don't know if
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: they can convince somebody else. You know.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: It's like the Jackie Chance and Tom cruises don't come
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: every day, you know what I mean, So bro, I
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: don't know, Yeah, you know, the last after you're for
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: real damn.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: They call him the last movie star to the last
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: real movie star.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Too, and that's just true. They want to hold on
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the ship because like Michael B. Jordan ain't out there
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: putting ass and seats facts. That's like that, that's some
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: you know, the last movie star to who you know
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: facts for you.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: You know, speaking of Michael B. Jordan's Sinners is.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Out on digital, Yes it is.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you cop I've already put in
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: my pre order for the DVD.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know which one I really need
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I'm getting.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: So there's three that I seen, it might be more.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: There's one that's like they call it a steelcase where
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: it's like a big case with like the pictures and whatnot.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: And then there's one that's you HD, what do they
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: call that?
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: The four K h D.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: And then there's one that's Blu ray.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I just got the four K in the blue ray
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: because I was like, well, something's not gonna work one year,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: so let me just use get both.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: And I don't mind giving my money to that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I don't mind giving my money.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just not big on physical I like, you know,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I like owning things.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: You don't like too much physical.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I mean that I don't in the position we're in
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: now where there is no like we have no physical
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: copies of nothing, and the moment they pull the plug,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: it's gone, right because sometimes convenience things sometimes it's just
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: like I don't have the space for it whatever.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's always space to have things, you know
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Of course, yeah my stuff, don't you know,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: you can pull whatever you want. I'm still gonna have
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: anything I wanted to watch.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: But you do like physical copies and things. Look at
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: all the figurines you have and.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: A vinyl yeah, see vinyl.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: It's like analog versions of things versus digital copies of
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: stuff where it doesn't do it for me, like if
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I can actually get the film itself that you know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: so you.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Don't care about the DVD.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because I just have the digital copy, you
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like that's why to me, it
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: doesn't make any difference to have the DVD versus having
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: a digital copy.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I don't have many physical media things. But the stuff
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: I do besides like books and stuff, this stuff I
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: do is usually like particular stuff like Beyonce, stuff like
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: from Renaissance and Cowboy Carter. I have that Fiyically, I
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: still have like physical like things like this, like my
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Leah self titled album. Like certain things that I've been
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: a mass over the years, or I feel I have
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: a particular critical importance to me, I want that physical copy.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: So that's why I'm like, bro, I'm getting Sinners because yeah,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: this is.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I'll probably get a copy of the Center's vinyl, maybe
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: the LP.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: But I'm not coming out or they have that out already.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I think it might be out, probably sold out and
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I might have missed it. Had to check on that.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I know you could get it.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: You canna get it?
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I see it?
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, nice? All right, Well still, I'll see that's something.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Could that is something I could use to It's like
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: having a I don't know, I might get a DVD
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: because there's a couple of DVDs that I have bought.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I would usually buy stuff also recipes when I would
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: show up to my dad, you know, because that's how
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I would do it, like I do, buy a DVD
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: and then bring it home, like, Okay, I want you
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: to see this joint, you know?
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Could that be the easiest way for him to see it?
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: So the vinyls on pre order and it says it's
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: schedularship or this site anyway, So the schedule shit late September.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: The DVDs are supposed to ship like July eighth, if
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken. And as mentioned, the digital if you
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: just want to buy or rent the digital meaning like streaming,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: it's out now.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now that I might this, I might, you know,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I might, I might cop it, you know, like Blue Giant.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I bought.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I bought a digital copy of Blue Giants because I
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: you know, I found in another means and I was like,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I love this film that much.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: And I immediately bought it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: You know, I own that drawing on Amazon, but they
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: can take that away from me anytime, so I.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Would get a DVD act you know.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that's why, I mean, they could take
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: away from you. They go into your hard drive or
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: something like that. But like if you downloaded and put
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: it on.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, multiple different hard drives.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: I've done that, no one can ever take it from you, right,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: there's still.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Well, no one's taking Blue Giant from me because yeah.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been did that.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, you know, certain films like
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: that I'm going to have on various around the world.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm gonna say you talking about like the
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Center's LP and stuff just made me think about, like
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: when you were talking about your the music right, the
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: music of the how important music is, and how like
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I haven't remembered just how much I like, I saw
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: it three times and was affected. I was devastated each
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: time on that scene, that scene with the the famous
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: scene now when they're at the juke joint and you know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: the the what you call it the river of music
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: that's from from Jimmy Hendrix's perspective, from your book Hendricks,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: the river of music, the ancestors, the the origins of
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: music and or genre and not even know where's the genre,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: the origins of all the different types of music that
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: you know, right from the blues to rock, you know,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: R and B house all this stuff, and the movie
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: said it without saying and I would hope that people
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: would understand. But like it's a larger premise that you
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: actually touched on in a recent Threads posts on IG
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: you said, go ahead, you said, every major genre of
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: American music is black music. Every single one that post
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: got two point eight k likes, a few hundred retreats,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: and a few.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Hundred you know comments, And then you clarify further.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: You said, To be clear, black people have been making
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: blues music since we arrived in America. Genre quote only
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: changes because of technology and time and a ton of
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: what we call genres. It's just people trying to make
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: you forget that the particular genre is black, like house
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: with E d M or heavy metal rock, et cetera.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Right, that was so funny as predicted.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Uh, there were a couple of people who were like, yeah,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: you're right, and there were much more people who are like,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Because everyone loves to miss
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: the point.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I mean most remember you know, the lights always counters
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: you know, you getting the point, even if you don't
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: respond or not.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I count that. I don't care if you're liking it
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason. So I'm talking about the comments. Yeah,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and in the comments for the.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I'd say the comments usually all right, this thing is
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: like I was clinging into tantowna.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Off there.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I've made this post in various forms throughout the years,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: on every form of social media therever is. I'm actually
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: looking at this image I have right now because I
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: just saved it from a post that I did before
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: a few years back. Because I found this image, and
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: this image basically says blues came from black culture, Jazz
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: came from black culture, rock and roll came from black culture,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Funk came from black culture.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Song came from black culture. Hip hop came from black culture.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: This pro black culture, house, black culture, techno, black culture, jungle,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: black culture, druma based black culture, garage, black culture, grime,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: black culture, dub step, black culture, and I'm leaving out
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: tons of punk.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Rock, Go Go.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: New Orleans Bounce. You know, I could go on and
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: on and on. And when I made this post this time,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: it was basically because the famous EDIM producer House producer,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: as I like to say, David Gweta, made a statement
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: this week talk about how he'd been DJed since before
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: there was House, and he might actually be technically correct,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: you know, but it was just the point of like
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: this being Black and Music Month, it's also being Pride month.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: You trying to erase and.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: You and David Gweta I'm speaking to knows this knows
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: that House has been gentrified by the creation of IDIM,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: by the creation of electronic dance music and all various
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: offshoots trans I mean, like I didn't know personally, this
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: is me personally, I didn't know that techno as techno,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: like techno itself comes from Detroit and it comes from
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: black people, like because I always thought of techno as
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: that white shit, you know, Like I didn't know that
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: techno was.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Black music first.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that the techno that I like, like
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: the old school techno, was what techno is because I
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: always think of techno as like shit to David Gutta
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: makes you.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Know, which is really EDM or whatever.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: But you know, they took that word, you know, because
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: when I was coming up, I wasn't taught that techno
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: came from Detroit and then it was black. I was
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: always heard, Oh, techno, We're going to a techno party,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: you know, so I was like, Oh, that's that white shit,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: that's that white version of house. Is what I used
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: to think basically, you know, because I knew that house
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: was black, but I didn't realize that techno was also black.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: It's like how for a long time I didn't know
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: that punk rock comes from Washington, DC and the first.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Punk rock bands are black.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Period.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: It goes on and on and on, and like what
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I was saying is what I've also come to realize
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: and is part of what we talk about. I mean,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: it's not part of it's one of the main things
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: we talk about in Jimmy Hendris Purple Hayz. And it's
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: the same thing that centers uh says. And I guess
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: it's just this thing that's in the ether. And a
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: lot of people have realized this throughout the years, and
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: I think it's not very you know, I've seen people
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: like Roy Ears, you know, one of the greatest musicians
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: of all time, talk about this like it's all one genre.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: You know, that's what you're saying. He's like bebop, hip hop,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: it's all the same. You know, it's all the same.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: And what I realize is blues is our original form
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: of music in this country because it's a reaction to
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: what happened to us in this country. And so through
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: that realization, I was like, all we've ever done is
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: make blues. Technology changes so that allows for different things
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: interpretations of blues. And also Black people are so creative
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: that we will exhaust something like jazz is like the
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: exhausting of what you're doing with instrumental music. You know,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: it's like what whole training in them are doing. You're
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: never going you know, you can do it. You can try,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: but it's like kind of like we as a culture
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: where like okay, now we're moving on to something else,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: you know, and there's still people doing jazz and it's
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: bounding upon it and everything. But as a culture, we
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: just we create new things over and over again. M hm,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: and time moves us along, right.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: I agree?
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: And what was interesting some of the responses like it's
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: a typical why I mentioned the lots of predictable stuff happening,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: which is like people like purposefully missing the point and
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: throwing out red herrings, like someone said like classical music
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: will have a word.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just like cancer for music is an American?
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Why are you throwing this stuff out there? And if
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: someone said ever heard of metal? As if metal is
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: not from rock?
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: But and again that's the point, like and this is
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: when and they were there, and see that's the that's
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: the trick, right because as they claim metal starts in
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: England with I guess Black Sabbath, right, and Black Sabbath
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: will tell you straight from their mouth.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: That Osborne said directly where create like I've seen it,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: and I don't think he said it like recently, I
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: don't even know what was going on with man but.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Many years ago.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he even said verbatim, Oh yeah, xyz, he would
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: name black artists. I think he's even said James Brown
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: or something else.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Of course, no, Sabbath is like huge.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: James Brown, he said, up, Jimmy Hendricks obviously, and a
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: whole bunch.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Of others, whole bunch of blues.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again heavy metal is obviously an offshoot of
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: rock which comes from uh Sister Rosetta Thorpe and Chuck
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Berry black people.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: You know, like this is just how it is.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: And like another typical response, I get the one that
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: I love is a Western musical notation, as if that's
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: the only form of musical notation, as.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: If even a lot of people ever used.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Musical notation to create music, as if people were not
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: creating music well before Western musical notation, which means it's
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: such a racisting to say that, like we were waiting
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: for these white people to crawl out of their caves
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: to develop a civilization before we started singing before like
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: the rest of the world wasn't making music before y'all
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: crawled out of because civilization goes off for thousands of
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: years before Europe started crawling out of caves holps.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: And this is just a lot of these responses are
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: just all distractions because yes, you said American music, so
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: all the what about? But what about You're not fucking
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: talking about all this stuff that the stuff that's unrelated,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: We're not talking about that.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: And even.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: It's like yeah, even when it is related, like they'll
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, what about appellation?
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: What about what about polka? And I'm like, are those
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: major forms of American music?
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: No? Because the reason is because they don't take from
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: black people. Because all the major forms of American music
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: take from black people. Because black people are the soul
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: and the heart of this country.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: And that is the crux of the concern. That is
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: the crux of the issue. That's the crux of the argument.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: That's the crux of what you were saying. But that's
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: what drives niggas crazy.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, the one that I really love
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: is when they call me racist for pointing out this fact.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: And it's something that that is like one of the
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: greatest forms of technology I've ever seen. When people call
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: you racist for pointing out racism, you know, it is
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: it is such a slick ass trick.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Is such a trick.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: You know, me, I don't give a fuck, and I
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: just block you and keep it moving because I'm never
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: gonna even distress someone. Like someone was like mad because
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't respond to someone else shut them down, and
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: they were like you didn't response, Like Noah, because I
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: don't respond when people use this type of you know,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: when they call me a racist for pointing out racism,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Like it's for me pointing out that whiteness has you know,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: tried to steal all of these prolatures that I named earlier, blues, jazz,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: rock and roll, funk, soul, hip hop, disco, house, techno, jungle, drummer,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: based and dumpsik on and on and on. Whitenesses tried
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: to claim all of them. It's racist for me to
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: point this out, but not racist for them to.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Do and racist to undermine what you're saying by by
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: using racist approaches to say, well you're wrong, then, I mean,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: because yes, like when you're talking pure site, you know
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: some that's the wildest part and that like I wanted
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: to make this my pen tweet because after I said
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: this the last time, because like I said, this is
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: not you know, I've said this for years but I've
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: recently said it with centers came out, and then I
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: said it the other day because of Gweta. So this
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: is like twice in a month maybe and I've said
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: it and it was the reaction was the same both times.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: It was, you know, blew up thousands of lights and
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: a bunch of Oh, you're just trying to race bait.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: You're just trying to do this.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: And what I wanted to make my pen tweet after
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: that or pin thread whatever is I need less white
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: men telling me about black music. And that is like
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: straight up and down because if you really are you know, uh,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I don't believe in allies whatever, but if you are
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: really down and you were really about it, you this
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: ship would have fit. Like one dude was like, I
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: know I played black music. Blah blah, motherfucker stops right there.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I know I played black music. Stop because if you
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: know that, that's all I'm saying. Keep it moving after that,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: enjoy it, Enjoy what we've given you, because throughout all
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: the drama and nonsense that you put on us as
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: a people, we have given you nothing but greatness, like
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: the one that I always love to point out because
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I only learned this when I went to the Smithsonian
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Music thing was that punk rock and.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: What is it? Punk rock? And Go Go both start
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: in Washington, D C.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Within like five years of each other, you know what
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like just two magical forms of music created
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: by black people in five years time in one city.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: You know, that's just like the amount of creativity that.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: We have done New Orleans, you know, like the shit
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: that flows out of that fucking city and the hell
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: you put the black people in it through it, you know,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: and the shit that still comes out of that city
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: to this day because of you know, our creativity, and
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: so you can't even give us that, you know what
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I mean. It's disgusting, and I for one am not
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: going to stand for it. You know, like it's Black
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Music Month, it's Pride Month. It's a lot of shit,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: and we all, you know, this is all we do.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: And look again to Native Americans too, you know, indigenous,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: to brown people, to you know, everyone else, to all
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: my Asiatic Afro Asiatic people around the world. Again, this
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: should not offend anyone, but it damn sure shouldn't offend
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: y'all because y'all know what y'all contributed, you know, what
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, And none of us have ever said, y'all
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: haven't right now I had.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I had one dude who playing.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: To be native whenever you're playing to be Native American online,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I really believe, especially when you come at me with
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: some nonsense, you know, because if you come at me
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: with some nonsense, I think you're white. I'm sorry, or
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: somebody who wishes they work in the story, like I
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: don't give but race you are. If you came at
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: me with some nonsense over that, then you're somebody wishes
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: they were white, because you should have got the point,
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: and the point is simple.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: We did all this in the story.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: It's like people are like, oh, so I can't make
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: music now, No, motherfucker did I say that.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: No, y'all already gonna make it.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I just want you to recognize, you know, like it
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: was all these things like that I did not say.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: It's see, it's the arguments of fallacy. It's the logic traps,
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: it's the you know, all the tricks that we mentioned.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: It's like all this stuff that people employed because they
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: do not know how to typically have critical.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Thought or to hold that hell or hold right.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Just accept the truth. You know, the earth is not
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: flat accept the truth, you know, shit like.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: That, Like it's it's just very simple things.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: And lots of times, you know what people do, they
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: be like your your your comment means the absence of
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: something else, like that's not what I fucking said.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: The famous one goes on on on Twitter.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: I can say I like pancakes, and somebody will respond
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: with what the fuck is wrong with waffles?
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Why you why are you mad at that? And I'm
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: just like, never what.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: I said, Never what I said? The majority of the
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: And that's another thing that I, you know, always talk about,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: is that genre is, like I said, the idea of
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: genre is basically racism because black people, when we were
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: creating the ship, we don't call this ship. Miles Davis
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: famously hates the term jazz. He wanted to call his music, uh,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: cultural music, basically pop music, you know, popular music because
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: and you know, mad people, I've seen that, you know,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: throughout history, and you know, black people are always like,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: why do you call my music this? Why don't you
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: just call pop music? Because it sells, it's popular, you know,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: so why isn't it pop?
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: You know? Why is it jazz? Why is it distro?
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Why is it funk.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Why is it all this other shit, you know, when
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: it's just popular music, When it's just music for that matter,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Why does it have to
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: be some other thing?
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: But genre?
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: You need because genre allows you want people love defining things.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: But two more importantly, it allows things to be separated
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: and allows people to think that they can claim something,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: like they can say, oh, we invented heavy metal. Another fucker,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: how nobody like recipes of Guru the rapper who said
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: you don't own those loops, you know what I mean,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: talk about music like nobody owns these notes? You know,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: like this shit goes back to primordial times and when
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: you really want to go back to it, all music
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: is black music. Could we all come from Africa? And
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: so the first music was all made in Africa, you
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it's like all music comes
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: from black music. But it's like these notes and shit,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: like the notes that we're playing in America, the notes
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: that the majority of the chord structures. Everything goes back
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: to blues, you know what I mean. People just keep
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: reusing it.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Modern R and B.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: All that shit just blues at different speeds, you know,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: blues and gospel, which you know, gospel comes out of
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: the blues and spirituals. Song in the fields. You know,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: before we could you know when we out there picking
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: that car and sing it. Those are the you know,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: it's just been reused throughout time that you know, we
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: sample them now, but before people just replayed them in
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: different ways.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Racism affects us all. I mean, racism is the bane.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: It's it wasn't racist that they cut the Black Panther game.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Was that just because like they just because they just
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: shut down that ship. It was like I ain't no money?
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Which one was it?
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: See?
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: That's the thing to me that that part of that
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: is because of racism straight up, because it's the same
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: thing where we were talking about earlierhere. It's like Tom
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Cruise and Sunday the last you know, movie star, when
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Sinners made with definitely less promotion, et cetera. Centers made
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: as much or like I think it's like one million
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: less than Thunderbolts, and it's going to make way more
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: of the long run, you know, because it's Centers.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: As we see the highest sentences, the highest grossing original
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: ip in a decade, that's over one hundred million at
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: this point. And then like people were like, oh, it's
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: no three hundred and thirty nine million. Yeah, yeah, I
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: think the last ye that's world why they were talking
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: about domestically and and and they were they were talking
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: about a subset. And then so then they looked at it.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: They said, oh, Variety, remember that article you put out
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: a month ago or two months ago when they was like, oh,
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: you got a lot of it got They said, oh,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: it had a good open the weekend, but it's got
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: a lot of ground to cover. It's got to make
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: that money. I was just like, what kind of a
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: backhanded like article was that or headline was that?
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: But we saw the same thing.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: And this goes back to like the Black Panther game
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: and even the Black Panther film. And I remember the
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: time because I was in Hollywood at the time, right,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: and I had like, I guess I was delusion. I
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: can admit it now, you know, because I.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Was delusional, right.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: I was sitting there thinking, Okay, Hollywood has to see
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: that this ship made a billion easily, you know, when
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: they barely give it any promotion or any love just
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: because you finally put a black superhero up here, We're
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: about to have a ton of black movies, right, it's
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: time fuck out here, nigga, because whiteness won't allow that. Like,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: and that's when I realized how that was my breaking
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: point with capitalism, with white supremacy, probably with a lot
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: of things alif because that's when I realized that this
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: ship will destroy the world in order to keep whiteness alive.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Look at the Dictatorship brand right now.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it will.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: It will like it will do anything like because it will.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: It will ignore money to keep whiteness alive. And that's
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: when it's like capitalism, Like capitalism is all about making money,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: but whiteness is so concerned we're protecting itself that it
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: will destroy the thing that got it to.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Face.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll shut down.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: It's and that that is the only thing that was
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: shut down capitalism is whiteness. It's like, we can't make
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: money over here because that would give them too much strength.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: And that's how powerful whiteness is, where it will turn
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: down money, which is its you know, main demon.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Like well, Ben, just going back to the Black Panther,
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: you can still play him in Marvel Rivals. You can
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: still play him. And there's another game coming out too,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: you know, there is another game.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: But I feel like you're right, like that is part
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: of it's just because it's like they and it's also
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: racism and ignorance because they're like, oh this to this day,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: they're probably thinking, this day won't make no money.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: You know, to this day there's a zach you're thinking that, really, I.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Don't want I'm not going to want to be naive.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: I'm just like nigga, you really thought that, Like at
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: the everything that's going on, you're really thinking that.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, because you know, Hollywood's insane and it's stilled with
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: people who are replaceable, you know, and the video game
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: industry is even more racist than Hollywood. So yes, I
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: fully believe that, you know, I fully believe they're like,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: oh fuck this, dam it or never, you know, and
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: then you remember the amount of money you outlay into
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: a game is even worse to movies.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: So it's like I get it.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: They you know, they're you know, the algorithms will say,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: because the algorithms were designed by white people, that you know,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: this day macer made no money. It's a Satne and
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: centers like they projected it to make, you know, low money,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: and then it makes all the money in the world.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: And it's like, how don't you all get it? Like,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: this is the director of the billion dollar Black Panther
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: with the star of the billion dollar Black Panther with
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: new freshness.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: They're first of all this whole thing about SELFSTI there's
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: infinite amounts of money in this world. And the reason
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: why I say this is and this is this is
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: nothing to do with centers to anything. But no, Disney
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: spent six hundred and fifty million for twenty four episodes
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: of and.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Or Thank the Lord, Thank the Lord because it was
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: worth it.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: But six hundred and fifty million. This is the same Disney.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: That say, oh, we're not gonna do this movie, or
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: we're not gonna do this show, or we're not gonna
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: do this game or whatever it is. Right, there's there's plenty.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: Of motherfucking money out there.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Anyone who tells you it ain't as fucking lying to you.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: You had an article about that though.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, from Tony Gilroy. He actually he was on
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: A Q and A at a the ATX festival, and
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: he was saying how like they had to fight really
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: hard for that money and they were told like at
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: first that they were told like, oh, streaming is dead. Like,
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: you know, when they were doing they was doing season two,
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: they was like the executives or whomever was telling it
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: was basically like, you know, just giving him bad vibes,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: just saying, you know, I don't know how this is
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: gonna go.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Think this is gonna make it the way it needs
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: to make it. And it did, you know a critical acclaimed,
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: you know, praise all that stuff. But yeah, it took
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: six hundred fifteen million. And gil Roy said that he
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: never took any notes from Disney. So when we say notes,
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: we mean like a higher up we'll see see see
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: an episode or see the script, and they will give
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: notes about well you cannot do this.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Let me say, look, and they said the only notes
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: they ever got from Disney was I was getting there.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: But but let me.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Say the fact that they I don't know how I like,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: you see, I'm speech to the first second there, because
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: it's like there's so many levels to this ship that
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: I just don't understand how this show got made. Like
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: and this is one of those times where I really
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: wanted to say this too, because a lot of out
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: here hate on Kathleen Kennedy, right, a lot of people
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: spend their entire online lives and offline lives hating on
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Kathleen Kennedy and demanding her head beyond the chopping block
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: at every other goddamn moment, and I, for one, have
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: all thought it was some nonsense. From the day she
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: was hired. I thought it was a nonsense. To this day,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I think it's nonsense. And this woman is responsible for
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: putting that six hundred and fifty million into Gilboy's pockets
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: so he can make what is one of, if not
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: the greatest television show of Walter. I don't like saying
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: it is the greatest, but it's one of them, you
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. In the story, it's top five
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: that are a lot in the story.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: And then one note you're referring to. It was actually
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: like he wanted in the first season. He wanted and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: or whoever to say fuck the Empire.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Marva Marvra and her speech.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: We wanted he wanted one of the characters, Marv in
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: this case, to say fuck the Empire. And that was
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: the one thing that Dizzy was like, no, and can't
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: That's where I want to say, this is like, that's
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: the other side of it where I just don't understand,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: because one, I don't understand Kathleen Kennedy or any studios
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: that giving anybody that.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Much money to do a show where they know they
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: know in they heart at heart you know what it was.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can feed that into the algorithm, and that's
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: just I'm a bad like nigga. She ain't making no money.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: You can feed that straight through a computers, say you
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: straight up. And they were right because it's critically acclaimed
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: and it did good. But it ain't like they hit
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: you know, or it's not like that. Yeah, it is not.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: It has no merchandising opportunities. There's none of that. There
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: ain't no cute shit in it where they can sell afterwards,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: none of that. And they knew that going in. So
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: it's that and the fact that they don't have any
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: notes that said that, Like, let me tell y'all from
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: working on American Gods and a lot of other things
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: in Hollywood that y'all haven't made.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: We'll see or not see. Who knows.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Notes are a constant. Notes are like you just learn
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: to live with them and you every person adopts their
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: different way of getting through them, but they are constant
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: and sometimes they're absolutely bad shit and saying. I had
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: someone once telling me I want the characterization to be
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: like the nineteen seventies Superman cartoons.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: It was twenty twenty two.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: And I was, wow, I don't know what you mean exactly,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: you know, but I'm just trying to to eat that
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: and keep writing.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: And you know, like, yeah, well, Tony and them and
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: friends got away with most things except for this whole
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: the empire thing. They changed. They changed it to fight
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: the Empire, and it's.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Probably for the best because I didn't. I didn't think
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: that needed to fuck the empire.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: It felt weird, like really yeah, because One Star Wars
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: doesn't curse you remember that, So it's like, what you mean?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: They said ship twice that was yeah, and that was it.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: And even those, even the ships felt a little unnecessary.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: It's just the word fuck. That's what's so big.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: It's just unnecessary. And also, fight the Empire is what
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: it's what it's stronger what I need. I don't that's
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: what I need to do. I don't need to you know, like.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Smash the empire. The empire, you know we had.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Fighting, Oh my gosh, that's that's that's fair.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, it just felt strong, and I
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: think that was a good note, you know what I mean.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: It probably didn't come from that place. It probably came
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: from we don't want you saying fuck on a Disney's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: Star Wars show.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: But it worked out for the best.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: That's the only fact you get at the end of
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: the day this year. And this is completely different than
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: everything else that's on Disney Plus under the Star Wars
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: umbrella anyway. But like and or is just just an outlier.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Like there's there's nothing like this. There's there's nothing on
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: that streaming channel network, whatever you want to call it.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: There's nothing like it anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Like the only thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of great things about revolution, right,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: you know, but this is one of the ones. Like
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: I talk about Athena r R. You know, you know,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: this is right up there with it, if not, I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: mean to me, it's it's just one of the greatest
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: things that I've ever seen, our revolution. You know, I
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: need to see more things like this. Hopefully I will, because.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: God did well we need it right now, We need
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: it desperately, especially in a situation like I said, and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: the dictator ship that we're living in right now, Ben,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: did you want to talk about your comments or did
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: you want to answer a question or two?
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Oh? All right, let's do some questions.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, So, as y'all know, we brought back the GUAC.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: The peeking Only Asked Question segment where we ask our
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: lovely fanfam and everyone listening any type of question you have.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: It could be about comments, it could just be about life.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: It could be some personal things you're going through. We
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: just want our advice. Whatever it is. Whatever you want
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: to talk about any topic, just ask and you know
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: we would we we might answer, right, so we I
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: can't even hold you.
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  Speaker 1: We might.
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  Speaker 3: We ain't gone.
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  Speaker 1: We probably will.
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  Speaker 3: We probably will.
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  Speaker 4: But you know it was agreed, just probably not.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: One of questions comes from AUDI got tho ADI got,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: they got, they gotto from YouTube. They right, what is
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: your favorite episode of the show, and by that gave
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: me four all nerds show They said, I have many,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: but I love the one where you two talk about
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: Raising Dion. And they're like, ma, this maybe for those
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: who are longtime listeners. And I don't know if y'all
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: even know. I mean, this is years ago now, but
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: there was a show Raising Dion, which is a young
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Black Kid on Netflix, right, I think it was it
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: was like a it was originally like a short film.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: I think that was like a kickstarter became a Netflix series.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: It's about a young black boy could have been like
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: ten or something like that that he gets magic powers.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: And and I've recalled like like, yes, it was like
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: a kickstarter or something because I supported it, and it
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: was and it was like a comic book, it was something.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: It was something. Yes, it was a comic book graphic
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: novel that got turned into the Netflix series. So anyway,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: like I was a big support of it. Fantastic story,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: like Ben became a fan of it, really really good story.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: And then you know, fast forward to this Netflix series
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: and it didn't go the way we thought it would
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: just in terms of that and people would was just
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: like yo, we were so harsh on on the kid actor,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: but that little boy was just loud and wrong and
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: just out of control, and it just did not fit
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: with what this story was about.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: It didn't fit with whatever was going on at any
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: given scene. My man was turned up to ten. No
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: matter what was going on, Nigga shuld be whispering, trying
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: to hide, hide, not real.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: And then like and then every episode he would be
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: like mah like yelling at his like, yelling for his mother.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: So that's where the main that probably one of my
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: favorites too.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I got through.
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  Speaker 4: I got through.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I got through.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: That's probably one of my favorites.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: Two there, there's literally we've had hundreds of episodes now
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: hundreds of them, so we've been in the game for
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: ten years plus plus. Uh so not even are we
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: at a thousand episodes. We got to be at a
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: thousand at this point, maybe thousands at this point because
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: I know years ago we were at five hundred, so
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: we got to be at thousands at this point. And
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: I I don't remember.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: Was the episodes. I think maybe people like Michael Kay Williams.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Yo, what's up? This is Michael Kay Williams. And you
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: were listening to four well really five all nerves. I'm
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: a nerd.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: Like when he was on that was that was incredible,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: like moments that you know, either defined our us as
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: a show or or or movements that we helped bee
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: hear Oh love Craft Country. We was one of the
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: you know, the top podcasts about that, you know what
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, and how we had a lot of collaboration
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: with HBO, you know, stuff like that. Like we've had
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of like few things occur in our history,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: I mean even more recently being invited to the African
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: American Museum of History and Culture. Like we spoke there,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: we did a podcast episode there. I understand and like
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: it's don't I can't want it to just one show.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: I would just say it's a culmination of experiences and
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: that there are some really bright experiences that iver you know,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: same very well.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: And it's funny. A lot of mind comes from running
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: up on people.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, God will know a lot like y'all don't know
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: the things we do to be getting these interviews sometimes.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Like uh, Juno Diaz, I ran up on him at
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: a book signing and told him about this and this
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: is like a moment and one of those things cause
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I told him about what we did and he was like, Oh,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: you're just living to dream and I was like, no,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: you're living a dream, you know, but he was he
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: and then he came on the show and said it.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: He's like, if I wasn't writing books, it's one of
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: the things I'd love to be doing documentary our culture,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: you know. And I was like you know that's where
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: fire or like when I ran up on Damon lindelof
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: The Watchman after party and I basically screamed on him.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: It was like you need to.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Get this right, and he, you know, then came on
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: the show and we've been cool ever since, you know,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: you know, Brian Fuller and Michael Green like you know,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: which led to me and mellow working in Hollywood. So yeah,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: it's been it's it's just a lot of you know,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: But then it's the like those episodes are like the
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: big ones and all those guests stuff, but it's like
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: all the all star reviews of anything.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, I also reviews are just phenomenal, like when we
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: have that full house, you know, when it's like Rod
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: and Genisia and and and and like when we have
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: the crew and even like the new people show up,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: like those are out of control, Taho, those are always
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: out of control.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: I love them, Yeah, because I just love, you know, comedy,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: and I'm a big fan of comedians and so being
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: around you know, funny and you know, like different people,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: it's just always some of my best stuff. But then
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, all the interviews talking to different people
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: from like the smallest to the largest death. It's always
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: just getting people's different viewpoints. That's just something that we
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: I think we created the show to do. Was well,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: I know one of the these always say, like Recipece
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: of Combat Jack is that he would say about the
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Combat Jack show is that it's not a hip hop show.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: It's a show about showing people the pathways to success.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: And he would say that, you know, we show people
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: all these different lifestyles and all these different ways that
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: people live, and so people could find their own path
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: to success. And I feel like we continue that tradition
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: on the show by show you not just the actors
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: or the directors, but also the writers, the producers, you know, everybody, artists.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know down the line, we've just had
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: everyone on this show. And so that's been a big
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: joy of mine, and just showing people that success promes
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: in so many different forms. You know, success is how
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: you define it. And so I think that was and
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: then it just it's like the little shit man reading
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: questions from people you know, or like when people send
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: us artfelt letters and emails.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: It's all this type of stuff.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all one thing.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all this and and just to reiterate that West part.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: He said, like, we read these things, right, so guess
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff coming into the inbox, but
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: we read these things and we respond. You know, it
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: may take a while, but we do respond to so
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: you know, we I want people to know that, like,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: you know, it's not just going into a black hole
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: like this stuff gets looked at and you know, and
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: contemplated and you know, as mentioned, ninety nine percent of
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: the time will probably respond, but you know they be
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: that one percent with y'all a wallin, but just saying
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. There's one one question I
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: want to get in bend before we start getting towards
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: wrap up.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: It's a heavy one, but it's an important one.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: This one comes from Brandon y'all San They write, how
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: did you find what you wanted to do in your life?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: I've had multiple jobs and had a few years making
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: money as a musician, but around twenty twenty one, I
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: just started losing interest in everything I was doing up
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: until that point. It's been four years and I still
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: can't find it. Let me start by saying this, I'm
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: not there yet. Brandon y'all song in terms of what
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: do I want to do. I have things I like
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: to do, but I don't think there's just one door.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: While I'm like, this is what I want to do
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: in my life, and that's the past. Some people have
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: that gift and know it early where they're like, I
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: want to be a fucking scientist, and they keep on
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: that path and that's all they fucking do. And is
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: is laser focus. I like to do a lot of
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: different things, and the stuff that I like to do
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: is an amalgamation of things, and it doesn't even exist.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: The job, the job I want, quote nquote doesn't exist.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: I want you know. I'm an executive, I'm a producer,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: I'm a musician, I'm a podcaster.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: I'm all of these things. But there's no one job.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: Or one thing that fits into that fits all these
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: things into a clean category.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: It's take has taken years of building our craft. It's
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: taking years of building experience. It's taking years of also
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: consistency too. Like I can I can say without a
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: shoutow of that, I am a podcaster, I am a producer,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: I'm an editor. I know how to do anything because
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: I have years of experience and I have years of
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: honing the craft. I'm an interviewer, I'm a media professional.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: I've had years experience and years of horning craft because
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: of consistency. I know how to interview because of consistence
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: and see. And I think that's maybe one of the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: ways you start finding if you feel like you're not
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: in a space where you don't know if it's your space.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: I think sometimes what's often missing is that level of
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: consistency that it's okay to try.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: Different things and stuff, but like, if you find a spark, you.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: Gotta drive through that, like you gotta you gotta stay
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: on that spark. And then it's going to get hard. Yeah, period,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: it's going if you're doing it the right way. And
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: and this is important, if you're doing things around it,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: it's gonna get hard. It's gonna be shit. You have
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: no idea what you're doing, and there's gonna be stuff
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: where you are trying and it's and it feels like
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: it's feeling or it feels like you're not getting nowhere.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: But that's where the difference is.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: You have to be consistent and keep doing it anyway.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: Resting power to jazz fly do it scared. That's something
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: that's something she she a quote she she coined, and
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: I want the things I live by.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: You.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: You don't know how this is gonna go. I was
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: gonna feel do it scared. I'm not saying jump out
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: the window and go go chase your dream being a
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: paintball artist.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: Am I saying that.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: I'm saying you can do the things you want to
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: do within reason. Just just have some backups there too.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: You so may need to have that side job.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: That's okay. I still got a full time.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: But I'm doing this because this is what I love,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: and I'm being consistent and making the moves and building plans.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: So I don't have to have the day job no more.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: I can do this. I would say this, Brandon, that
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: idea of I'm so humble that you think, at least
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: for me, that you think that I found what I want, Like,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: I think it's still an ongoing journey. I don't think
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: it's just one destination that I've made it.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: And I made it.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: I found something that was passionate about, interested in me
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: and things that I thought I could grow in. And
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: doing this shit was not easy. It still isn't easy,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: and some respects is not easy because it's still that
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: you have to learn and grow through. Like it was
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: literally just keeping consistent and keeping at it because this
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: is something that was important enough to me. So consistency
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: is my answer to that.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: I would second that part in consistency, and then I
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: would also second what you say about not all right now.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: With me, I was a bit different, but I'll get
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: to how I'm also the same. Like I grew up
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: very early on, like some of our earliest memories were
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: all around Star Wars, and from the time I can remember,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: I knew who George Lucas was and he was my idol,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: and I was like, that's what I want to do,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: you know, make movies like this dude, you know one
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: day and then the other thing that very early on,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: I think because of Star Wars, I was also obsessed
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: with space and living in Houston, I was very close
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: to NASA, and so I was like, okay, I'm being
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: an astronaut and I don't know, I guess I was like,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: I'll be an astronaut, then maybe I'll made movies. But
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: astronaut was very much and then the Space Shuttle blew
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: up and I was like, I'm good.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: And also I just also learned. I mean, it was
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: really personal, you.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Know, I was really yeah, you know, I'm much older
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: than Trauma. Yeah, I'm in there, et cetera. And also
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: I just realized how tough it is becoming an astronaut,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm good, you know, I like
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: chilling the Way too much. So it was, you know,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: pretty much I was focused on making movies. I wrote,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: you know, I thought about movies all the time. And
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: then around sixteen years old, I just randomly kind of
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: like I wanted to become a DJ. You know, it
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: was really random, honestly, like it's so weird. Like I
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: was watching music videos one night and I thought DJ
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: Premiere looked so cool in one video, and then Mister
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: Long and the Black Sheet video, and then honestly, you know,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: the DJs I knew always had girls around them, so
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: that helped, and I was like, that's something that I need.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: So I just wanted to become a DJ. And I
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: had no musical training, no musical inclination. I've told this
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: story before. I couldn't snap on beat, I cannot one, two, three, four,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: just none of this. But I was like, fuck it,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a DJ, you know, and consistency. I
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: bought some stupid cheap equipment, had a couple of stupid
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: cheap records that I've gotten something I've gone for free.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: And then I started spending every dollar I got on
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: fucking vinyl and buying more records and every minute I
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: have on just studying the craft. And then I went
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: to Howard and I met more DJs, and I just
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: from there it just became like I became a scientist
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: and shit, like just you know, absorbing it constantly. And
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: now it's like I'm kind of at the same point
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: you are, Brandon. Like I was supposed to drop a
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: new song that I produced on Monday of this week.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: It's now Wednesdays. Were recording this, I've not released it yet.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: I've actually been watching some videos about you know, building
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: a story in music as you're released stuff. So on
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: my okay, I'm gonna figure that out and to make
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: a few videos and I'm gonna release it probably by
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: Friday this week or Monday of next week at the
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: very latest. But it's the same thing where I'm sitting
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: there like, oh man, I'm working on all this music
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: at home, and I know it's pretty dope, but I
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: know the realities of you know, putting out music in
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five and all this other shit, and it
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: becomes I'm like, what's the point and damn, you know,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: why am I doing this? And I go through all
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: these things and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna be a
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: failure you know this, and that I have all these feelings,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: but like it just it's natural. It is what it is.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: So I would say, yo, one, you know, let me
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: hear some of that shit you're working on, Like and yeah,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: if you're like making money as a musician, man, that's
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: something like Okay. I learned this from Michael Green, right,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: who is a super you know, well established screenwriter. But
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: Michael once told me, like, Ben, if you were getting
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: paid as an author, I don't care how much you're
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: getting paid writing something. You were doing better than ninety five.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Writing, you know what I mean? So bru, Like, if
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: you're getting.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Paid the music, just like I DJ weddings, you know,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: may need to make money right now. It's something I
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: don't always enjoy, but it pays well. And it's like
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: I've learned that. You know, sometimes you just try to
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: do the work. Yeah, you know, sometimes it's not gonna
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: be every gig. You're not gonna love, you know, but
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: you just try to put in that work.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: Brandon noted that they started losing interest in everything that
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: they're going up to that point, and I would say
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: that's also that's also that's an internal that's an introspective
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: point that you have to negotiate within yourself, right, and
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: you know, whether it's through therapy, whether it's through journal
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: like like some combination thereof, like you need to really
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: investigate that because that's important to understand yourself in that way,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: like well why do I feel like this?
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And if it is on some music stuff like
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: where you're like not really inspired, I would say, you know,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: you gotta find the inspiration, but also look at it,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: like try and look at it in a different way.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: That's foot has helped me in my journey of music.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Like when I.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: Started, I was really like this is the video I'm
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: about Tati make. I want to talk about this journey
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: of like how I started producing music because I was
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: really getting driven out of my mind making I mean,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: doing weddings all the time because I come from where
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: I was doing all kinds of ill shit as a DJ,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: you know, doing this party, that party, and then I'm
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: just doing weddings every weekend. It's like, oh my god,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: this fucking ground all day and I'm getting driven out
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: of my mind. So I'm like, I gotta do something
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: to find this creativity again.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: So I started.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: Producing, you know, a house music and dance music because
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: it's the music that I love. And so then I'm like, okay,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: I'm making some throat shit and I'm like, now I
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: got to put it out. So then I had somebody
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: who would mix my music, would engineer it for me,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: and then they stopped engineering for a time. They wanted
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: to take a break. So I'm like, all right, fuck,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: you know, I gotta learn this. But it's like each
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: of these steps, when I learned things, it's changed my
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: viewpoint and it inspires me to learn more or to
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: do more. And then, of course, every time, like Tartanna said,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: it's been a battle. You know, Like I start making
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: beats and I'm like, you know, ten of them are
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: whack and one of them are good. And now that
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: ratio has gotten better. And then I learned I start
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: trying to teach myself engineering. I'm like, oh my god.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: People spend years in school for this. What am I doing.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know shit, you know, but I sit down
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: and watching YouTube videos and I keep practicing. I just
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: keep working on it. And now it's to the point
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: where my joints are sounding pretty good. And I might
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: not know every little thing, but I know enough. And
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, you just try to keep learning
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: and keep going. Like you said, consistency, man, that's the
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: it's the easiest and the hardest part of it all.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And just maybe the last thing I was thinking
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: about as Bema's talking was just do not compare yourself
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: to others, oh man. Not compare yourself to others in
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: terms of better you know, better or worse. Do not
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: compare yourself in terms of where you are in your
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: journey to someone else's journey. That is something that it
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: was a hard lesson for me, and I got it now.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: I got it now. It doesn't matter where that other
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: person is in their life, how it may look, how
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: far ahead, or how much they got it together. Day
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: journey is day journey, and your journey is your journey.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: There is no particular time or date where you were
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: supposed to be having this or be in this particular place.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: It doesn't work like that it does not work.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: That your journey is your journey, your life is your life,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: and you got to center yourself and figure out how
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: do you feel and why you feel a certain way,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: and you have to push forward.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: When I was incarcerated at one point in my life,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: I read a lot and one of the things I read,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: this prote that always sticks with me is how do
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: you know that you are in the right place for
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: your spiritual growth at any given moment? Because you're in
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: that place you are you exist because as you're here
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: right now, this is where you.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: Should Brandon y'all song, you exist?
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right now? Yeah, wherever you are is that moment
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: that you should be for your spiritual growth. Now, whether
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: or not it's for what you want to grow in
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: is another question.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: That's a journey.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but your spiritual growth is what you're on this
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: planet for.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: You know, Well, that is all the questions.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: Better gonna have a lighter note part. You got to
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: ask their lighter note question.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, fine, a lighter note. Who's your favorite hero growing up?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Brandon, you know you We don't
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: want him to feel like he just brought us down,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: But it's all up.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: Why I didn't felt down. I felt empowered.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: But that's your boy, I feel great. Yeah.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: What's who's your favorite hero growing up? Minster Storm? Quick
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: answer this and get over it.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: No, but they weren't.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: I'll just you we just had a crush on. Yeah,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: but she might have been my favorite. If not her,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: it's probably long Shot, but my favorites. Yeah, it's in
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: middle school. See I say long shot he was growing up. Yeah,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: long Shot, definitely I love that nigga.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Brandon, thank you Adigato. Thank you to everyone
• 1:25:11
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean real quick. And I did want to
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: mention some of comic books, you know what I mean.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: It's been a minute since we brought back the Guac,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: you know, might bring back I'm a side, you know,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: since I've been talking about Jimmy Hendris Purple Hayes so much,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: I did want to mention a few other joints that
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: I've been reading and shout out to the good people
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: at Stranger Comics, because they actually sent me this graphic
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: novel right here, Defiant the story of Robert Small's I
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: think you can see that on my screen right now,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: beautiful graphic novel. I actually was at San Diego Comic
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: Con last year when Hindris debuted, and I walked by
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: this table and bought like the preview date, a preview
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: of this graphic novel, and like I got a pin
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: with it because I was like this shit fire, you know,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: like they had a dope pen and a dope lit
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: up poster and everything, so all like okay, let me
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: check this out. And then randomly these people hit me
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: up on the emails like would you like the book,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, hell yeah, I got the previews, send
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: me the book. So Defiant, the story of Robert Small's
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: is about a former sel who joins the Confederate Army
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: during the Civil War and then basically flips it and
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: bounces it, gains his freedom, et cetera. I mean, my
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: man's name is Defiant, you know what I mean.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: You know, it's fine and written by whom the.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: Full name is Rob Edwards. Art by Sean Damien Hill
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: and Alex Patterson. It's out now from uh sorry, Stranger Comics.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Stranger Commics is the same publisher that did
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: Naobi yep, so you know by Sebastian Jones Fire Art.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: Fire Story doesn't very much like it reminds it's in
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: the same vein of Big Jim and the White Boy
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: where it's like, you know, someone from the present is
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: telling this story about the pastenomenal. Yeah, yeah, and this
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: is like it's you know, vain, but different vibe. I'd say,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: you know, than Bitch and the White Boys. But both
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: Fire books I was really impressed with. This didn't go
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: like there was like a moment where I thought it
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: was gonna go one way, and it went the other way,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: and I was really happy that it went the other way.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: It's all all set and I like.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: The ark I'm looking at I'm on the Stranger comic side.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at all the other covers and stuff.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they got the one.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they did a cover for it,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: but they had a preview copy of this post over
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: where they did Shaft Like it's like defiant like but
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: like the old Shaft movie.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, yeah it was fire you see it?
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, yeah that ship when I was
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: walked by that. Oh and I don't know if they
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: had a pin on there, but they have that pin
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: from that cover where he's shooting the gun. I've got
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: the pin, but it's like, damy, where can I wear
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: this black man shooting the gunn that's like the I
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: need the right occasion for that joint. But yeah, Firebook
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: definitely checked that out. And also very quick because this
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: one everyone is going to be talking about for some
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: time this week.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: From Marvel, Wow, The World to Come By.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: The Legends, Christopher Priest and Joe Caseda, Who Cresada Cassada.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: I think Caresada Casda has not done like interior art
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: in like I don't know, ten fifteen years. He was
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: one of the biggest of all time in the late nineties,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: early two thousands, and then he moved up to editorial
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: and I'm not sure if he's a Marvel's editor in
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: chief now but for a long No, he's not anymore,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: but for a long time he was, so you know,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: he got rich and chilled out.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: Basically, he don't need to do that art chill no more.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: So him coming back to do art is a big
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: thing because him and priests used to do Black Panther
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: back in the day. So this is the new book
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: The World to Come, Marvel Knights.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: It is. I'm not sure what exactly is.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: If it's an alternate world, alternate history of Wakanda, or
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: if it is supposed to take place in the six
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: one six, I'm not one hundred percent sure. But the
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: news is out the end of this issue. Spoil alert
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: for anyone who's living under a rock right now. And
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: this has been out for days, so it ain't really
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: that much, you know news. It's revealed that CHILDA has
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: a white son, blond hair and blue.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Eyed, white.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: Adoptive or is the son.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: It's a mystery, like this is called the World to Come,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: and it employs like, what's that like a out of
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: order time sequence telling, like it starts off sixteen years
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: after the World to Come, as it says, it's like,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: this is sixteen years after the World to Come, and
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: then it'll jump twenty eight years before the World to Come,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: eight years before the World to come, eight years after
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: the World to Come. It never in the first issue
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: says what is the World to Come? What happened at
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: that moment where it becomes the World to Come? That
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: is not it's not like the death of T'Challa or
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: anything not. That's that's established, you know, because actually T'Challa
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: dies in another spoiler on the first second page as
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: an old man, you know, like twenty eight years after
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: the World's comes, it begins and o'challa passes away as
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: an old man on the throne. So what happens in
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: between is the story they're telling, you know, much like
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: how we all know that and Or is going to
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: die at the end of Rogue one. Yeah, spoiler, but
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: you know he is and and Or is still great
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: because you're learning what it makes his life, and that
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: is what you will learn this and also why t'chila
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: has a white son.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I've got some Yeah, it.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: Is random essentially when you read the book, because throughout
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: the book that you know, Storm is mentioned, his marriage,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: he marries Oro, she passes away. Well, I don't I
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: don't want spoil the whole goddamn book, but has mentioned
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: the Oor. I mean, his marriage to Storm is mentioned.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: There's other Roma answers with another black woman, but there's
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: no you know.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: White women up in this joint as of yet. So
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: where white?
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: It was immate conception? Who knows?
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: But as Leonardo said, you know you have my attention.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: But now I'm intrigued.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: I can't lie. I got to that last page.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to make a short video on this
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: because I have a couple of theories as to who
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: this white boy is and you know why he's his son.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: But you know, we'll get more into that. I just
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: want to know what y'all think. Let me know.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: Please make sure you check out, at the very least
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: check out Defiant the story of Robert Small's from Stranger
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: Comments out now and everyone in their mama gonna be
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: talking about this world to see might grab you some
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: of that too, Yes, and also I know you're not
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: up to it. The latest but the latest issue of
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: The Power Fantasy just dropped this week.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: And oh yeah I need to catch you need.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: To catch up. It's brilliant.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the latest issue is a big twist. There won't
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: be another issue till July. Time to catch up. Yeah,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: you got some time to catch up right now. And
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: the latest issue is one of those like at the
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: end of it, it's a shocking moment and it's actually
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: I think I keeped that there's two bit shocking moments,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: but the second one is the one people are fixated on,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: and I think the first one is more important.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, well shout out shout out to and
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: Gillan on that.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: Yep, very well done.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: As always, before we go, it's one thing I just
• 1:33:46
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  Speaker 3: She's a huge figure within the comic space.
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  Speaker 4: She's done so much for other people her entire career,
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  Speaker 4: her entire being.
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  Speaker 3: Of being an adult that was able to do other
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  Speaker 3: things for other people. She's always she's always gone above
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  Speaker 3: and beyond for everybody else, and I think the least
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  Speaker 3: we can do is try to go on above and
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  Speaker 3: beyond for her. So I definitely please hit up that
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  Speaker 3: go fundme. Look at it. Even if you only could
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  Speaker 3: do a dollar, that's one dollars she didn't have before.
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  Speaker 3: Please definitely head up that goal for me and support
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  Speaker 3: Regime on that murdh.
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  Speaker 2: Also, I wanted to give a shout out to one
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  Speaker 2: of four our NERD's own fan fam.
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  Speaker 1: Our brother Richie.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I will definitely butcher his last name, So can
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  Speaker 2: you help me? Yeah, our brother Richie Aquino Dropped Horse,
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  Speaker 2: a short film.
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  Speaker 1: By Richie Aquino.
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  Speaker 3: Relaxed.
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  Speaker 2: So the one who's really famous for that is your man,
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  Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy when you watch Boomerang, because it's like written
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  Speaker 2: by Eddie.
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  Speaker 1: Murphy, directed by Eddie Murphy, produced.
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  Speaker 2: By Eddie Murphy, Storry, Eddie Murphy.
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  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: No, but Richie Aino fan fam restored in there Dropped Horse,
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  Speaker 2: a short film on YouTube. Will also drop the link
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  Speaker 2: for that in you know the comments all that, because
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  Speaker 2: it's a bit difficult to find. I had to search
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  Speaker 2: out Horse and put in my man's whole name for
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  Speaker 2: it to come up. But when you do, it does
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  Speaker 2: come up. And Horse is a short film about two brothers,
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  Speaker 2: one of them's birthday and a game of horse. And
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  Speaker 2: it's very short, eleven minutes. I will say this, Richie,
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  Speaker 2: you got some you know, some acting stills that I
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  Speaker 2: did not know you had, Like my man plays a
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  Speaker 2: couple of characters in this joint and you know it
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  Speaker 2: was the comedy was up there.
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  Speaker 1: So definitely check it out. Great little short film. Horse.
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  Speaker 2: Will put the link to it ended with I need more.
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  Speaker 2: I will say that I definitely need the sequel to Horse, horse.
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  Speaker 1: Two.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know horses now, neither those twenty one. There
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  Speaker 2: we go. Yeah no, but people in the other places.
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  Speaker 2: I've heard this that people in the other places play
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  Speaker 2: other like they use other words and horse.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So flipping into one of them joints and there you go.
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  Speaker 2: There's your part two. You know what I mean. But
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  Speaker 2: yeah no, I will say. The comedy is there's some
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  Speaker 2: you know, great comedy in this short film.
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  Speaker 1: So need a laugh.
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  Speaker 2: Peep at horse will put the link on it. Shout
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  Speaker 2: out to Ritchie, Congratulations to you and your brother on
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