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Hour 1: Is AI coming for your job? · The Mark Simone Show

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Speaker 1: Now on seven ten wowaw the Mark Simone show in
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Speaker 1: for Mark today, here's Jim Ker.
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Speaker 2: Well, good morning.
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Speaker 3: It's great to be here in the seventh ten WOR studio.
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Speaker 3: And as a matter of fact, to tell you the truth,
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Speaker 3: this is the very first time I've ever been.
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Speaker 2: In this studio.
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Speaker 3: This is the famous Mark Simone studio here at Radio
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Speaker 3: seven to ten WOR. I've known Mark. Oh, let's see,
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Speaker 3: I got to give you a little background here about
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Speaker 3: my relationship with Mark Simone. I first met Mark in
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Speaker 3: September of nineteen seventy seven, so in September it will
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Speaker 3: be forty nine years since we first met. When I
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Speaker 3: met Mark, he was the nighttime DJ at what was
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Speaker 3: then WPIXFM here in New York City, and his audience
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Speaker 3: predominantly consisted of teenagers at the time, and I observed
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Speaker 3: him at work. He was incredibly fun, so creative on
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Speaker 3: the air. To be quite honest with you, I was
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Speaker 3: kind of in awe at how he could just put
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Speaker 3: something together in about thirty seconds and create hilarity on
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Speaker 3: the air while at the same time keeping the hits coming.
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Speaker 3: He was truly a great DJ. He then later went on,
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Speaker 3: of course, to a very successful career as a talk
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Speaker 3: show host, culminating in this top rated show on Radio
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Speaker 3: seven to ten WR. But besides the fact that he
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Speaker 3: was really creative, there was something really unusual about him. Now,
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Speaker 3: you have to understand that in September of nineteen seventy seven,
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Speaker 3: we were both very young guys, and we were working
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Speaker 3: with a bunch of other very young guys, and it
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Speaker 3: was an era of T shirts and blue jeans and sneakers.
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Speaker 3: That's how all of us dressed, except for Mark Simone.
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Speaker 3: We're talking early twenties now, not an older guy, a
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Speaker 3: guy in his early twenties playing rock and roll in
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Speaker 3: disco records for a living. At night, you'd go into
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Speaker 3: the studio and the man would have a crisp white
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Speaker 3: shirt on, and he had a tie, and he had
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Speaker 3: a jacket with a pocket square and slacks and shoes
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Speaker 3: that were polished as if he were a United States marine.
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Speaker 3: He didn't look like the rest of us looked, and
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Speaker 3: he didn't carry himself the way the rest of us
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Speaker 3: carried ourselves. There was a certain kind of bizarre maturity
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Speaker 3: about him, and it created a very unique situation in
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Speaker 3: our relationship through the years, because when Mark was very young.
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Speaker 3: To all the rest of us his peers, he looked older.
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Speaker 3: He looked like an older guy because of the way
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Speaker 3: he dressed.
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Speaker 2: In the way he presented himself.
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Speaker 3: Well, now it's decades later and he looks the same.
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Speaker 3: He looks exactly the same. So when he was young,
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Speaker 3: he looked old. When he's older, he looks young. It's
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Speaker 3: the most amazing thing I've ever seen. How can you
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Speaker 3: know somebody for almost forty nine years and they look
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Speaker 3: the same. But that's the deal with Mark Simone. Had
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Speaker 3: I only met him that one day in September of
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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy seven and then bumped into him on the
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Speaker 3: street yesterday in Manhattan, I would have immediately been able
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Speaker 3: to recognize him. So that's the deal with Mark Simone
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Speaker 3: and his you know, appearance, always a perfectly dressed guy.
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Speaker 3: The other thing about Mark Simone is he's kind of
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Speaker 3: known as a man about town. And the fact of
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Speaker 3: the matter is that anytime you hear a story about
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Speaker 3: Mark being a man about town, it's true. He knows everyone,
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Speaker 3: and he goes everywhere. If there's a Broadway show opening,
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Speaker 3: Mark Simone is there. If you pick up the newspaper. Okay,
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Speaker 3: let me just grab a newspaper. You pick up the
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Speaker 3: newspaper and you see, oh, a very exclusive, star studded
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Speaker 3: book party in a fancy apartment building on Central Park West.
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Speaker 3: You know, Mark Simone was probably there. Mark Simone is
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Speaker 3: at every restaurant opening. He's at every important civic and
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Speaker 3: charitable event, sometimes in more than one state in one day.
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Speaker 3: I've looked at pictures that Mark has put up on Facebook,
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Speaker 3: and He'll be at one event in Manhattan at three
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Speaker 3: in the afternoon, and then I'll see him at some
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Speaker 3: charity gala in Connecticut at nine o'clock at night. The
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Speaker 3: man has incredible energy and he is he is. It's
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Speaker 3: not BS. Mark Simone is New York's man about town.
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Speaker 3: One day, it was on a Saturday night, and so
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Speaker 3: that's the night that I can stay up late because
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Speaker 3: I get up early in the morning. I get up
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Speaker 3: at three o'clock in the morning for my regular job.
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Speaker 3: It was a Saturday night, and I walked into the
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Speaker 3: famous restaurant and bar, Elaine's none around the world, but
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Speaker 3: in my case it was, you know, a neighborhood bar
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Speaker 3: and restaurant, because live a block and a half away,
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Speaker 3: you know, and I knew the bartender is Duffy and
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Speaker 3: Alex and I went in to go get a glass
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Speaker 3: of wine on a Saturday night, the only night I
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Speaker 3: can really stay out late.
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Speaker 2: And I walked in and.
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Speaker 3: I could hear the voice of Mark Simone because it
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Speaker 3: kind of cut through, you know, the ambient noise in
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Speaker 3: the bar. And I looked across the room and there
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Speaker 3: he was sitting at a table.
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Speaker 2: Facing me.
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Speaker 3: There was a blondhaired woman who was facing him, so
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Speaker 3: her back was to me, but anyway, I waved at him,
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Speaker 3: and he waved me over. So I went over to
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Speaker 3: his table and I said, hi, Mark, and then he
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Speaker 3: introduced me to his dinner date, and Colter, the famous author,
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Speaker 3: the beautiful blonde, famous author, best selling author, book after
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Speaker 3: book after book after book, and he invited me to
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Speaker 3: sit down, and I had a wonderful conversation with the
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Speaker 3: two of them. He introduced me to her. She engaged
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Speaker 3: me in a conversation about her love of the Grateful Dead.
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Speaker 3: She apparently has seen the Grateful Dead in concert like
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Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty times or something like that. And
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Speaker 3: after about fifteen minutes, I left and went over to
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Speaker 3: the bar and ordered myself a glass of wine, and
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Speaker 3: as I savored each sip of that glass of cabernet,
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Speaker 3: what was going through my mind was a simple question,
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Speaker 3: how on earth does Mark Simone end up with Ann
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Speaker 3: Colter as a dinner date? Well, there was a very
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Speaker 3: simple answer. Mark Simone is Mark Simone and he knows everybody,
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Speaker 3: and I am thrilled to be able to spend some
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Speaker 3: time with you Mark Simone's friends today here on radio
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Speaker 3: seven to ten woar because I think to Mark, at
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Speaker 3: least in our conversations in the hallway here at iHeartRadio,
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Speaker 3: I think that the most important relationship that he has,
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Speaker 3: besides the fact that he knows everybody and goes everywhere,
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Speaker 3: the people that he talks about with the greatest degree
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Speaker 3: of affection. Those people are you. He loves the people
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Speaker 3: who listen to his radio show here on War. He
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Speaker 3: spends so much time thinking about what it is every
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Speaker 3: day that he wants to share with you and respects
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Speaker 3: so much your participation in the conversation when you call
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Speaker 3: and share your ideas and thoughts with him. That's another
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Speaker 3: attribute that is unfortunately not as common as it should be.
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Speaker 3: Mark Simon loves his audience, and I am so thrilled
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Speaker 3: to be able to spend some time with you today.
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Speaker 2: Because I feel like I know you, because he's talked.
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Speaker 3: About you in the hallways as long as we've been
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Speaker 3: here together at iHeartRadio. And today we're going to talk
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Speaker 3: about some things that are going on in New York City.
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Speaker 3: I expect that we'll have a conversation a little bit
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Speaker 3: later this hour that we'll touch on artificial intelligence. You know,
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Speaker 3: AI is coming for us, all it is. There was
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Speaker 3: a story in the newspaper today about the hundreds of
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Speaker 3: thousands of people who have already been displaced in their
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Speaker 3: jobs because of artificial intelligence. It is often poo pooed
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Speaker 3: by corporate executives who say things like our adoption of
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Speaker 3: AI is going to make our employees more efficient and
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Speaker 3: make their jobs easier. Well, that's not necessarily the case.
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Speaker 3: It could be AI just doing your job. We'll talk
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Speaker 3: about that. There's also the danger of AI taking over
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Speaker 3: your image, your likeness. People can put videos created by
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Speaker 3: AI up that people will believe are yours because they
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Speaker 3: look just like you. They can make the voice sound
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Speaker 3: just like you. There haven't really been effective legislative remedies
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Speaker 3: to such things. People are working on it in some
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Speaker 3: cases successfully. In some other cases it's a challenge because
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Speaker 3: there are big companies that push back. But I'll have
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Speaker 3: a conversation a little bit later this morning with one
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Speaker 3: of the women on the front lines in state legislatures
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Speaker 3: and in the halls of Congress in Washington, DC trying
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Speaker 3: to create protections for you, because even though she's focusing
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Speaker 3: on a particular segment of the population, those people who
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Speaker 3: are in the entertainment or media industries as part of
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Speaker 3: her job, the fact is the legislation that she's working
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Speaker 3: on is legislation that will protect all of us, regardless
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Speaker 3: of what it is that we do for a living.
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Speaker 3: So that'll be coming up.
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Speaker 2: Also.
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Speaker 3: I've read in the paper the other day about those
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Speaker 3: crazy women at the courthouse who are just crazy for
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Speaker 3: Luigi Mangioni, the accused murderer who was accused of killing
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Speaker 3: a man. We could see that where we could see
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Speaker 3: where that murder took place, right out of our Q
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Speaker 3: one or four point three studio here in New York City.
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Speaker 3: One of my personal habits is from time to time
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Speaker 3: I go downstairs onto the sidewalk when there's a break
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Speaker 3: in my show so that I can enjoy a breath
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Speaker 3: of fresh air on the streets of New York City.
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Speaker 3: And I missed coming face to face with that guy
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Speaker 3: because of the route that he allegedly took after the
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Speaker 3: shooting took place by just six minutes. And now there's
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Speaker 3: a courthouse full of young women who think that he's
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Speaker 3: the greatest guy in the world. I find that very confusing,
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Speaker 3: and we'll try to have a conversation about that coming
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Speaker 3: up as well here at WR Of course, it's your show,
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Speaker 3: It's Mark Show, and it's your show. I'm just temporarily
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Speaker 3: sitting here in this chair. So we're going to ask
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Speaker 3: you to call the Voice of New York at eight
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Speaker 3: hundred and three to two one zero seven ten to
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Speaker 3: speak to us about whatever might be on your mind,
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Speaker 3: because we'd love to hear from you this morning here
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Speaker 3: on the Mark Simone Show at Radio seven to ten WOR.
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Speaker 3: I'm Jim Kerr. Remember, I'm open to just about anything.
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Speaker 3: Love to hear from you, although we do have those
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Speaker 3: topics that will be coming up a little bit later.
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Speaker 2: On during the show.
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Speaker 3: So with that, we'll take our first break and we'll
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Speaker 3: be right back. This is the Mark Simone Show on
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Speaker 3: Radio seven ten wr Now more of.
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Speaker 1: The Mark Simone show on seven ten WOO behind the
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Speaker 1: mic for Mark today, it's Jim Kerr.
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Speaker 3: Well, good morning, eight hundred and three to one zero
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Speaker 3: seven ten. That's our telephone number, and I invite you
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Speaker 3: to call us and participate in the discussion about what
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Speaker 3: might be on your mind this morning. Here at seven
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Speaker 3: ten WOR we have on the line AL from Yonkers.
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Speaker 3: And I'm trying to figure out how to work this
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Speaker 3: phone because there are two buttons next to the name
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Speaker 3: AL from Yonkers. So which one do I push the
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Speaker 3: ones to the left. Okay, thank you, thank you? Okay,
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Speaker 3: Al from Yonkers.
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Speaker 2: How are you? Maybe this one will get us? AL?
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Speaker 2: Is this you? Al?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: Hey, Jim, speak to you.
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Speaker 2: Hi, how you doing?
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Speaker 5: Speak to you this morning?
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Speaker 4: Good Jim.
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Speaker 5: You know, I want to say that was really nice
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Speaker 5: cond words that you had from Mark. And now I
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Speaker 5: just wanted to also mention you know, recently in the
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Speaker 5: news we've seen about these groupies showing up at court
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Speaker 5: and press conferences for Luigi Mangioni, and as you know,
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Speaker 5: being a seasoned legend, that this is nothing new. We
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Speaker 5: saw that back in the seventies with Charles Manson when he,
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Speaker 5: you know, was the mastermind of the Sharon Tate and
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Speaker 5: the Lobbyanca murders. And we also saw that in the
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Speaker 5: nineteen eighties when the nights talker Richard Ramirez terrorized California this.
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Speaker 2: Movie show up at Court.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there seems to be a cult, especially surrounding serial killers.
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Speaker 3: And a little bit later, probably around eleven o'clock, we're
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Speaker 3: going to hopefully have on the air with us an experts,
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Speaker 3: an expert in the field who will be able to
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Speaker 3: share not only some information about the history of these
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Speaker 3: people and their worship of these of these these horrible murderers,
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Speaker 3: but also maybe some of the psychological background that causes
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Speaker 3: them to act in such a way. But it's really disturbing,
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Speaker 3: it really.
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Speaker 5: Is, absolutely really is.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I lived up in Yonkers and I knew
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Speaker 6: a guy, you know, as an acquaintance two years ago
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Speaker 6: wrote a book on you know, the Sun of Sap
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Speaker 6: and it's just amazing how people could look to a
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Speaker 6: person like Louisi, you know, Mangoni, a cold blooded killer
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Speaker 6: who you know, Trump, you know, killed this person. It's
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Speaker 6: it's unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: Well, David Berkowitz not a real good looking guy, No, uh,
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Speaker 3: and and uh, Luigi women find very attractive and healthy. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and comes from a rich family. But you know, I
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Speaker 3: still don't understand because that was one of the excuses.
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Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody the other day about it,
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Speaker 3: and one of the excuses about the cult of.
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Speaker 2: Luigi is, well, but he's so good looking.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, if he killed this man on the
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Speaker 3: sidewalk over in front of the New York Hilton, so
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Speaker 3: what that he's good looking? So what what would that
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Speaker 3: have to do with anything at all? But apparently in
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Speaker 3: some people's minds, and strangely enough in their hearts, it does.
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Speaker 2: It's just it's just unbelievable.
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Speaker 6: Now, it really is. I mean, it's you know, it's unbelievable.
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Speaker 5: I agree.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well, thank you for calling up. I really do
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Speaker 3: appreciate it very much. And uh, okay, you have a
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Speaker 3: good day. Eight hundred three two one zero seven to ten.
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Speaker 3: That's the number here for Mark Simone's show on w
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Speaker 3: o R. And we have Olsen on the line.
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Speaker 2: I believe.
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Speaker 3: I'm just playing with the phone here, bod set Olson
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Speaker 3: Thomas and nope, nobody there. Okay, let's see who's online.
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Speaker 3: One good morning, You're on Mark Simone show.
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Speaker 7: Hello, Yes, good morning. Uh this is PG from Queens.
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Speaker 3: I got what part of Queen's.
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Speaker 7: Okay actually far Rockaway?
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, Well there's the difference. So what's on your mind?
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Speaker 7: Friends? Because I ended up having a stroke, I was
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Speaker 7: evicted Shelton. Now I'm in far Rockaway and the disability
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Speaker 7: apartment Lloyane was gonna say is I walk upstairs and
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Speaker 7: the machine that.
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Speaker 8: Opens the door when you put the army.
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Speaker 7: Floors tells you use the Metrotro card. How don't ho
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Speaker 7: they want me to use a Metro card if they
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Speaker 7: took it away in January.
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Speaker 3: The Metro the Metro card doesn't work anymore. But but
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Speaker 3: I but oddly enough, on the number six train yesterday
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Speaker 3: I saw an advertisement on the train that said that
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Speaker 3: you wouldn't be able to buy any new Metro cards
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Speaker 3: after December thirty, first twenty.
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Speaker 7: Five Tranchova on an Omni card.
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Speaker 3: But it's but it's still but the sign was still there.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, may have to use a Metro card.
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Speaker 2: Uh huh?
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Speaker 7: So I called the three one one. You call the
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Speaker 7: Mayor's office and let them talk to MTA. I will
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Speaker 7: not call MTA anymore. Of course, it's a waste of
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Speaker 7: time and red tape and everything. Since we have a
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Speaker 7: new maya call the May's office, get a confirmation number
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Speaker 7: and then go back to May's office and ask them
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Speaker 7: what happened with this?
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Speaker 2: Well, what happened? What happens when you felt? What happened?
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Speaker 3: Wait a second, wait, I have to ask you a question.
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Speaker 2: Calm down.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, Okay, all right, I gotta get a
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Speaker 3: word in here.
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Speaker 2: Did you no, that's okay? Did you call three one one.
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Speaker 7: After the fact? I asked the told booth person to
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Speaker 7: let me in when I tapped it through regular card
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Speaker 7: and then she had to open the door.
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Speaker 2: No, I understand, I understand that.
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Speaker 3: But to complain about it, was it three to one
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Speaker 3: one that you called? And if so, did they connect
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Speaker 3: you to the right people? Did they help you at all?
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Speaker 7: No, they wanted to give me the MTA number. My
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Speaker 7: bottom line is, if you're going to give me a
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Speaker 7: number to call somebody who can't answer it, forget about
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Speaker 7: city council. There's a may to do the job. Let
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Speaker 7: him go figure somebody to do the job.
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Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you for calling us this morning.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Let's stay in the borough. Of Queen's
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Speaker 3: right now and say hello to Rob on Mark Simone
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Speaker 3: Show at w o R.
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Speaker 2: Hello Rob, Hi.
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Speaker 8: Jim, how you doing.
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Speaker 4: Uh?
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Speaker 8: First, I would just like to say that I was
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Speaker 8: on that trip with the Jedaway Getaway. Well we went
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Speaker 8: down to Miami with you and Liz.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we remember that, well we It was with
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Speaker 3: Lenny Kravitz, wasn't it. Oh no, No, that was no,
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Speaker 3: you're talking about the Getaway jeaway with Lizz That was
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Speaker 3: That was Valentine's Day in back in the nineteen nineties
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Speaker 3: when there was a blizzard condition here's no storm and everything,
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Speaker 3: and we flew on twa if you'll remember them, on
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Speaker 3: a seven forty seven. We flew to Miami Beach for
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Speaker 3: the day from the morning and we came back in
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Speaker 3: the evening on the same day exactly.
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Speaker 8: That was a fantastic time. We hung out at the
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Speaker 8: hotel the whole day.
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Speaker 4: It was a great, great time.
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Speaker 8: So, yeah, what you're saying about Luigi, it's amazing to
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Speaker 8: me because when I look at everything with this the
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Speaker 8: wing the Democrats are if they could, they'd run this
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Speaker 8: guy for office. You know what I mean. It's just
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Speaker 8: there's just no there's no standard anymore. And I just
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Speaker 8: it's really sad what's happening to the whole society that
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Speaker 8: this is what they do. They put a value on
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Speaker 8: somebody who's taking a man's life. It's just where are
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Speaker 8: we going?
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Speaker 3: Well, one of the quotes I heard from one of
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Speaker 3: the young women was something along the lines and I
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Speaker 3: am paraphrasing here, but his kids are better off without him,
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Speaker 3: speaking of the children of the murdered insurance company CEO.
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Speaker 3: Can you imagine somebody saying something like that.
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Speaker 2: I can't.
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Speaker 8: It's really it's sad commentary on a society as a whole,
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Speaker 8: where just this is what we've become. Like, Yeah, and
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Speaker 8: you see more and more of it every day, and
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Speaker 8: it's just people you know, who have been in who
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Speaker 8: have lived here a long time and everything and seeing
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Speaker 8: the way things used to be. It's it just seems
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Speaker 8: like every day we get a little bit worse. It's unfortunately.
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Speaker 3: Well, hopefully we'll have an opportunity to speak with an
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Speaker 3: expert a little bit later during the show This morning
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Speaker 3: here at wo R. Rob, thank you for calling up, Tom.
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Speaker 2: How are you.
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Speaker 4: Hi?
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Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning.
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Speaker 3: You're calling from You're calling from Chicago.
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Speaker 4: I sure am.
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Speaker 3: Listening on the free iHeartRadio app.
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Speaker 4: Yes, most certainly. Yeah, okay, why not?
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Speaker 2: So what's up with you today?
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Speaker 4: It's a nice connection throughout the world, you know. So
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Speaker 4: it's it's great. I'm glad I uh have an opportunity
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Speaker 4: to ask you a couple of questions.
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Speaker 3: Maybe, Okay, yeah, we've got let's see here, we've got
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Speaker 3: we've got a moment. So go with question number one.
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Speaker 4: All right, question number one. Okay, So the first time
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Speaker 4: literally I'm sixty or almost, and the first time I
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Speaker 4: was ever in the Big Apple was like last year
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Speaker 4: September October.
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Speaker 9: I've been.
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Speaker 4: Upper at a round act and stuff like that, Niagara
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Speaker 4: blah blah blah. But my question is why is New York,
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Speaker 4: the ample of the World Center so disgustingly dirty?
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it depends on how you view the
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Speaker 3: city of New York. I don't find it particularly dirty.
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Speaker 3: I'm often in cities all over the country, including Chicago,
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Speaker 3: which I love, by the way, along that beautiful Lake
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Speaker 3: Michigan shore there. And the fact of the matter is
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Speaker 3: that you have eight and a half million people living
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Speaker 3: in one city. Manhattan is so incredibly densely populated. It's
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Speaker 3: only twelve blocks wide and about twelve miles long. And
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Speaker 3: so you know, some garbage will, you know, find its
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Speaker 3: way to the streets or sidewalks from time to time.
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Speaker 3: But actually, I think they do a pretty good job,
22:58
Speaker 3: to tell you the truth, our dsn Y they are.
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Speaker 2: Pretty incredible here in New York City.
23:05
Speaker 3: You know, we have New York's finest, the police, and
23:09
Speaker 3: we have New York's bravest.
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Speaker 2: The Fire Department.
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Speaker 3: And we've got New York's boldest that's the Corrections Department.
23:19
Speaker 3: But we've got New York's strongest and they're the Sanitation Department.
23:23
Speaker 3: And believe me, this city would not survive a day
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Speaker 3: and a half without all the hard work that those
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Speaker 3: men and women put into their jobs.
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Speaker 1: The Mark Simone Show continues on seven to ten.
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Speaker 3: Woo In for Mark today is Jim Kerk.
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Speaker 2: Good morning.
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Speaker 3: It is my pleasure to introduce to you Rebecca Damon,
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Speaker 3: who is the Chief Labor Policy Officer and New York
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Speaker 3: Executive Director at SAG after that stands for Screen Actors
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Speaker 3: School and American Federation of Television and Radio Artists And
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Speaker 3: for full disclosure, I'm a member of that union and
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Speaker 3: my fellow members have elected me to serve on the
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Speaker 3: national and local boards of that union. Here at iHeartRadio
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Speaker 3: in New York, all the people that you hear on
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Speaker 3: the air, we are all members of SAGAFTRA. And Rebecca
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Speaker 3: Damon obviously has a very important job as executive director
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Speaker 3: of the union here in New York City where there
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Speaker 3: are thirty four thousand members of the New York Local,
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Speaker 3: But she does a lot more than serve those of
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Speaker 3: us who are members. Her legislative efforts have an effect
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Speaker 3: not just on those of us who are members of
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Speaker 3: the union, but have an effect upon all of you,
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Speaker 3: especially concerning Ai and Rebecca. Welcome to the Mark Simone Show.
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Speaker 9: Hey Jim, it's pro good to hear from you in
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Speaker 9: this context, not just in the boardroom on the air well.
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Speaker 3: The fact of the matter is that with state legislatures
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Speaker 3: around the country, different legislative initiatives that you are involved in,
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Speaker 3: as well as appearances before congressional committees in the House
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Speaker 3: and in the Senate, you've been trying to build bipartisan
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Speaker 3: coalitions to create protections that of course protect your members,
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Speaker 3: but also protect the general public at large. For instance,
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Speaker 3: the No Fakes Act, and I understand a new law
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Speaker 3: went into effect the Take It Down Act.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, yeah, I think this is something that everybody should
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Speaker 9: pay attention to because while it obviously affects SAG after
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Speaker 9: remembers like yourself, like our film, television, video game actors, broadcasters, singers, dances,
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Speaker 9: recording artists, what is happening in the AI space is
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Speaker 9: something that the public really wants to pay attention to.
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Speaker 9: We were really lucky that the Take It Down Act
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Speaker 9: did receive that bipartisan support, along with the support of
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Speaker 9: the American Medical Association, the Artists Rights awaiant Talents Agents,
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Speaker 9: Black music Artists coalitions, different agencies, obviously the recording industry
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Speaker 9: of America, just a huge amount of people, obviously the NPA.
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Speaker 9: We were very very lucky.
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Speaker 3: Butific What specifically does the legislation entail.
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Speaker 9: Yes, it covers platforms have to establish a process take
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Speaker 9: it Down, through which an identifiable individual can request removal
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Speaker 9: of a non con sexual intimate visual depiction. This is
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Speaker 9: super important. They have the platforms must remove the content
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Speaker 9: within forty eight hours and make reasonable efforts to identify
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Speaker 9: and remove the copies. And that just became effective. It
26:38
Speaker 9: was passed last year, but it became effective now and
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Speaker 9: so We obviously are celebrating that because that helps not
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Speaker 9: just our members, but that helps the public. A lot
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Speaker 9: of people don't realize that, Yeah, go ahead.
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Speaker 3: Because the AI tools that exist at this particular point
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Speaker 3: in time can take anyone and make it look as
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Speaker 3: if they're doing things that they've never done and saying
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Speaker 3: things that they would never say. Yeah, until this legislation
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Speaker 3: took effect, you try to get it removed from a platform,
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Speaker 3: and it's just tough luck for you.
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Speaker 9: That's exactly right, and you know, it's it's an important
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Speaker 9: step because it really is huge progress for victims of
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Speaker 9: these non consensual intimate imagery and this AI generated you know,
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Speaker 9: a sexual deep fake and who gets harmed by that?
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Speaker 9: Actually the most is young women and girls. And so
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Speaker 9: this is something that I think everybody cares about. When
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Speaker 9: Congress you know, passed it, it was a stepping stone
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Speaker 9: from our point of view. The President cited in the law.
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Speaker 9: We had huge supporter in Milania Trump, we had bipartisan support.
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Speaker 9: This was very important. And now we're working on the
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Speaker 9: no Fake fact and the no Fake fact was just reintroduced,
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Speaker 9: which is super exciting, Like I feel like it's breaking news.
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Speaker 9: You have picked the perfect timing, just yesterday, just Wednesday,
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Speaker 9: And that is a new vision and a version of
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Speaker 9: news fakes. No fakes stands for for your listeners, nurture originals,
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Speaker 9: foster art, and keep entertainment safe. And we are building
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Speaker 9: support for this. And what it does is give people
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Speaker 9: control over people's voice and likeness that it belongs to
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Speaker 9: the individual, not too unauthorized AI systems that can produce
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Speaker 9: these things. And so when a listener is thinking about this,
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Speaker 9: people just assume that there is a protected right, and
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Speaker 9: they're often very surprised to know that your voice and
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Speaker 9: your likeness aren't protected in a general sense. And so
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Speaker 9: this is a comprehensive federal bill to protect tech, voice
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Speaker 9: and likeness. And so as this technology advances, as it
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Speaker 9: sort of runs ahead, you have to have good guardrails
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Speaker 9: around how it's used, when it's used, to be able
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Speaker 9: to protect the people, to protect your listeners.
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Speaker 3: And in factoring these very polarizing times, you've been able
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Speaker 3: to successfully build coalitions including Republicans and Democrats to get
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Speaker 3: this stuff done.
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Speaker 9: That's exactly right. I think everybody can agree that these
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Speaker 9: kinds of issues are important for society and important for
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Speaker 9: people to understand that you know, this kind of legislation
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Speaker 9: as we educate the public, and we educate both sides
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Speaker 9: of the aisle, you know, AI has all these risks
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Speaker 9: and opportunities like any new technology, and so our member leaders,
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Speaker 9: our negotiating committees, our Government affairs and public policy teams
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Speaker 9: have really worked to make sure that everybody understands the
29:34
Speaker 9: importance of getting this done and getting this done now.
29:37
Speaker 9: There's really not time to waste when it comes to that.
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Speaker 9: And you know, as there's more detection available out there,
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Speaker 9: people are really able to move things forward in a
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Speaker 9: really productive way. And we're excited about the progress we're making.
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Speaker 9: But we need everybody to pay attention and get on
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Speaker 9: board for these very very very straightforward guardrails.
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Speaker 3: All right, well, Rebecca Damon, thank you so much for that.
29:59
Speaker 3: And we only have about forty seconds left else, so
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Speaker 3: could you just tell our friends, because sometimes people get confused,
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Speaker 3: you know, and they get inconvenienced by film and TV
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Speaker 3: shoots on their streets and stuff like that. But how
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Speaker 3: many middle class jobs, middle class jobs, we're not talking
30:21
Speaker 3: about Jas Cloney and Nicole Kidman. How many middle class
30:24
Speaker 3: jobs does the entertainment industry provide?
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Speaker 2: Here? In New York City every year.
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Speaker 9: Well, you are so right, You hit right to it.
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Speaker 9: The middle class jobs, the working people from the crew,
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Speaker 9: the teamsters, iatzi performers who are not that high profile
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Speaker 9: a list actor get that benefit, and that is tens
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Speaker 9: of thousands of jobs. And there's a big multiplier effect.
30:47
Speaker 9: The businesses, the dry cleaners, the construction yards, your lumber yard,
30:52
Speaker 9: the caterers, all of those things benefit when production is
30:56
Speaker 9: in New York City. And so there's a huge multiplier
30:59
Speaker 9: effect and the great amount of tourism that keeps our
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Speaker 9: restaurants and cafes and hotels open that come because people
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Speaker 9: want to see where they filmed. The Devilwares or the
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Speaker 9: Gilded Age or any of those things perks back to
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Speaker 9: the city. Let's go have a car, Let's have a cupcake.
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Speaker 3: Okay at Magnolia. That's wonderful at Magnolia Bakery.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Rebecca Damon, thank you so much for spending time with
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Speaker 3: us on Mark Simone Show.
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Speaker 9: Okay, thanks Jim.
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Speaker 3: Okay, it's ten to fifty one and we're going to
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Speaker 3: take a break and come back right here on Mark
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Speaker 3: Show at WR.
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Speaker 1: Now More with Mark Simone's special guest to hos Jim
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Speaker 1: Kerr on seven to ten wof.
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Speaker 3: WR. Of course the Voice of New York and that
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Speaker 3: means your voice. I'm Jim Kerfer Mark Simone. Just to
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Speaker 3: wrap up with the AI conversation that we're having, I
31:51
Speaker 3: bought a book last year. I read about this book
31:55
Speaker 3: pre publication and so I ordered it before it was
31:57
Speaker 3: actually published, and then in September, when the book was published,
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Speaker 3: it was sent to me. I bought it on Amazon. Anyway,
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Speaker 3: this is a nonfiction book, but it read like science
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Speaker 3: fiction and it was really really scary. And it's called
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Speaker 3: if Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies. That's the name of
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Speaker 3: the book. And it was written by some very highly respected,
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Speaker 3: highly regarded AI researchers and they argue that superhuman AI
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Speaker 3: will lead to our extinction because we won't be able
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Speaker 3: to control it and their interests will diverge from ours.
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Speaker 3: And it was really really scary. So once again, the
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Speaker 3: name of that book is if Anyone builds It, Everyone Dies.
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Speaker 3: So coming up in a little while here on the
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Speaker 3: Mark Simon Show at Radio seven to ten WOR, we're
32:56
Speaker 3: going to get back to the subject that we briefly
32:59
Speaker 3: touched on earlier in the show. About Luigi Mangioni's supporters,
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Speaker 3: and there apparently are, for some strange reason, lots of them.
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Speaker 3: And we'll have a conversation with a person who is
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Speaker 3: a world renowned expert on murderers, on killers, specifically on
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Speaker 3: serial killers, and we'll have a conversation with her and
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Speaker 3: maybe get some insight into what it is that psychologically
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Speaker 3: motivates those people who make the strange decision, at least
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Speaker 3: from our point of view, to become not only attracted
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Speaker 3: to because of their physical appearance, but supportive of a
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Speaker 3: person who murders somebody else, not somebody who says, oh, no,
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Speaker 3: that person is guilty. I want to I mean, that
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Speaker 3: person is not guilty. I want to defend them, but
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Speaker 3: instead of person saying that person is guilty and I'm
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Speaker 3: glad they did what they did because it was a
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Speaker 3: good thing. And that's what some people are saying about
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Speaker 3: Luigi Nangioni. So we'll get into that conversation in just
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Speaker 3: a little while right here on Radio seven ten wor
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