Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / Richard Allen's Mental State Under Scrutiny| Crime Alert Recap Saturday 11.02.11
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Alert hourly update, breaking crime news Now.
- 0:03Speaker 2: I'm Drew Nilson In Indiana, The Delphi murder trial enters
- 0:07Speaker 2: its thirteenth day, with Richard Allen's defense seam working to
- 0:10Speaker 2: create doubts about the state's case. Allen, charged with the
- 0:13Speaker 2: twenty seventeen murders of teenagers Abby Williams and Libby Jerman,
- 0:17Speaker 2: faces four counts of murder. Testimony today focuses on Allan's
- 0:21Speaker 2: mental state while in prison, as well as his treatment
- 0:23Speaker 2: and behavior in solitary confinement. The defense called several witnesses
- 0:27Speaker 2: to support claims that Allan's confinement worsened his mental health,
- 0:31Speaker 2: challenging the reliability of his confessions made while in prison.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Friday's testimony began with Heim and police officer Christopher Gutti,
- 0:39Speaker 2: who had worked on the Delphi case for about two weeks,
- 0:42Speaker 2: recounting an interview he conducted with Brad Weber, a property
- 0:45Speaker 2: owner near the crime scene. Weber had driven a van
- 0:48Speaker 2: near the mon On High Bridge on the day of
- 0:49Speaker 2: the murders, but Guti could not remember if Weber had
- 0:52Speaker 2: told him exactly where he went after work that day.
- 0:55Speaker 2: This interaction as part of the defense's strategy to question
- 0:58Speaker 2: the timelines of the events around the crime. Then the
- 1:01Speaker 2: defense brought out doctor Deanna Dwanger, the Director of Behavioral
- 1:04Speaker 2: Health for the Indiana Department of Correction who has overseen
- 1:07Speaker 2: the mental health policies and services at IDoc since twenty
- 1:11Speaker 2: twenty one. She did not directly treat Richard Allen, but
- 1:14Speaker 2: she provided a view into Allan's experience at Westville Correctional Facility,
- 1:18Speaker 2: where he had been held in solitary confinement for over
- 1:21Speaker 2: a year. Doctor Dwinger explained the toll this level of
- 1:24Speaker 2: isolation can have on mental health, saying quote, solitary confinement
- 1:27Speaker 2: is not good for the mind. According to her, IDoc
- 1:30Speaker 2: policy advises that someone with a serious mental illness should
- 1:34Speaker 2: not be held in solitary for more than thirty days,
- 1:36Speaker 2: but Alan's confinement lasted thirteen months. Doctor Dwanger testified that
- 1:40Speaker 2: Allan's mental health issues worsened in the spring of twenty
- 1:43Speaker 2: twenty three, when his prison team diagnosed him with serious
- 1:46Speaker 2: mental illness and classified him as gravely disabled. He showed
- 1:50Speaker 2: troubling behavior, including flushing a bible down the toilet and
- 1:53Speaker 2: eating his own waist. There is video of some of
- 1:56Speaker 2: this behavior from the round the clock surveillance of his cell.
- 1:59Speaker 2: The mental illness diagnosis came around the same time that
- 2:02Speaker 2: Allan confessed to his family over the phone, saying he
- 2:04Speaker 2: had killed the two girls. Allan's confession coincided with an
- 2:08Speaker 2: unusual behavioral spiral, which included self harm and erratic actions that,
- 2:12Speaker 2: according to the defense, are common signs of severe mental stress.
- 2:15Speaker 2: When questioned about why Alan had been placed in solitary confinement,
- 2:19Speaker 2: doctor Dwinger said she did not make that decision and
- 2:22Speaker 2: was unaware who did, but she admitted feeling concern over
- 2:25Speaker 2: the surveillance camera always fixed on Alan. She had recommended
- 2:29Speaker 2: it be removed, but the camera remained in place, adding
- 2:32Speaker 2: to what she described as a quote non therapeutic environment
- 2:36Speaker 2: for someone with severe mental health needs. Quote someone left
- 2:39Speaker 2: alone too long like that can go down hill.
- 2:42Speaker 3: I'm nicole part.
- 2:43Speaker 4: A suspect has been apprehended in connection with the unusual
- 2:47Speaker 4: death of a camera in Montana. This initially believed to
- 2:50Speaker 4: be the result of a bear attack. On Wednesday, the
- 2:54Speaker 4: Gallatin County Sheriff's Office announced that they have identified a
- 2:58Speaker 4: suspect related to the death of thirty five year.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Old Dustin Jerseman.
- 3:03Speaker 4: Jerseyman, a father from Belgrade, was discovered with severe injuries
- 3:07Speaker 4: to his body and head in the Montana Wilderness near
- 3:10Speaker 4: Big Sky.
- 3:11Speaker 3: This on October twelve.
- 3:13Speaker 4: He had gone missing two days prior and his body
- 3:16Speaker 4: found by someone who initially thought he had been mauled
- 3:20Speaker 4: by a bear. However, a representative from the Montana Department
- 3:24Speaker 4: of Fish, Wildlife and Parks later determined that there was
- 3:27Speaker 4: no evidence of a bear in the vicinity, prompting the
- 3:30Speaker 4: Sheriff's office to launch a homicide investigation.
- 3:34Speaker 3: The suspect, whose.
- 3:35Speaker 4: Identity has not been disclosed, reportedly led authorities to evidence
- 3:41Speaker 4: pertinent to the case and is currently in custody on
- 3:44Speaker 4: separate charges while cooperating with the investigation. This according to
- 3:49Speaker 4: Sheriff Dan Springer, the investigation into this homicide is ongoing.
- 3:53Speaker 4: He said, we believe the suspect acted alone and there
- 3:56Speaker 4: is no longer a danger to the public. Details and
- 4:00Speaker 4: potential charges will be announced soon. Springer praised the detectives
- 4:05Speaker 4: for their relentless pursuit of justice, acknowledging that their hard
- 4:10Speaker 4: work and identifying the assailant had paid off when his
- 4:14Speaker 4: remains were initially discovered. Springer described the incident as a
- 4:17Speaker 4: vicious attack, emphasizing that Jersman was murdered in a heinous way.
- 4:23Speaker 4: Before his death, Jersman was driving a black twenty thirteen
- 4:26Speaker 4: Ford f one point fifty with a black topper and
- 4:29Speaker 4: silver aluminum ladder. He had gone out with a friend
- 4:32Speaker 4: for a weekend of camping. His sister, Jillian Price, spoke
- 4:36Speaker 4: to NBC about how the family loved their brother.
- 4:40Speaker 5: This weekend, we lost our brother, our son, our uncle,
- 4:45Speaker 5: our best friends, and our dad in the most unimaginable way.
- 4:49Speaker 5: Dustin was a great kid. He was born here in Bozeman,
- 4:52Speaker 5: and he worked all over the valley. He could have
- 4:54Speaker 5: framed your house. He could have court your foundation, you
- 4:57Speaker 5: could have installed your countertops. Hardworking, skilled tradesman. There is
- 5:03Speaker 5: someone in our valley that is capable of truly heinous things.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Police say.
- 5:08Speaker 4: The suspect is being held without bond and further information
- 5:11Speaker 4: will be released.
- 5:13Speaker 3: I'm Jennifer Gould.
- 5:15Speaker 1: A disturbing case involving a children's therapist in New York.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Instead of helping kids, she allegedly violated them sexually. Renee Hoberman,
- 5:25Speaker 1: a licensed social worker from Long Island, has been arrested
- 5:28Speaker 1: and charged with creating and distributing child pornography. She was
- 5:33Speaker 1: arrested after agents with Homeland Security rated her plain View home.
- 5:38Speaker 1: This neighbor, Nick Randisi, spoke to ABC seven.
- 5:41Speaker 3: News, I haven't seen her since she was a little,
- 5:44Speaker 3: tiny kid, and all of a sudden, she's grown up
- 5:46Speaker 3: and she's moved out, and she's a monster.
- 5:49Speaker 1: According to federal prosecutors, the thirty six year old used
- 5:52Speaker 1: social media platforms to share explicit videos of infants and
- 5:57Speaker 1: young children engaging.
- 5:59Speaker 3: In sea sexual acts.
- 6:01Speaker 1: She also allegedly posed as a man online and engaged
- 6:06Speaker 1: in disturbing conversations with other users about child sexual abuse.
- 6:11Speaker 1: In some instances, she even claimed to have produced child
- 6:15Speaker 1: porn herself, sharing explicit videos of children she had abused.
- 6:20Speaker 1: The videos, which were shared between June and October of
- 6:23Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, depict horrific acts of sexual abuse, including
- 6:28Speaker 1: infants as young as six months old being raped and tortured.
- 6:33Speaker 1: According to federal prosecutors, Oberman provided youth counseling services to
- 6:38Speaker 1: children at Southoaks Hospital in Amityville from twenty sixteen to
- 6:42Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. She also worked at elementary schools and
- 6:47Speaker 1: mental health clinics. Before becoming a licensed social worker. According
- 6:51Speaker 1: to her LifeStance biography page, Hoberman was arrested in charged
- 6:55Speaker 1: with distribution of child pornography. If convicted, she faces a
- 6:59Speaker 1: minimum sentence of five years in prison. Poperman is being
- 7:02Speaker 1: held without bond. For the latest crime and justice news,
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- 7:10Speaker 3: I'm Jennifer Gould.