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Mac & Bone Show - Connor O'Gara Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We got to talk college football, and a great guy
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  Speaker 1: to do that with is Connor Ogera, host of the
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  Speaker 1: OG Kickoff on Next Round Live. Go to the YouTube
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  Speaker 1: page and search for the OG Kickoff and you'll find
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  Speaker 1: Connorroghera's stuff and he joins us here on the Mac
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  Speaker 1: and Bone Show. Connor, what's going I assume you are
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  Speaker 1: ready for actual football and not just political news in
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  Speaker 1: court cases.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Brother?
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  Speaker 4: Goodness gracious? I mean, if I never hear the words
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  Speaker 4: protect college sports again, that'd be just great. I'd be
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  Speaker 4: fine with that. I'm so relieved that this is not
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  Speaker 4: going to be, you know, somebody that we're gonna have
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  Speaker 4: to deal with until at least September. Like this is
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  Speaker 4: this is a football month in which there are actual
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  Speaker 4: games being played, and somebody needs to get Ross Ellender
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  Speaker 4: to a football game, because, my goodness, gracious, I think
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  Speaker 4: he spent his entire offseason in Washington and credit to Ross,
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  Speaker 4: but I mean, my goodness, like, let's let's talk about
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  Speaker 4: the things that are actually going to matter in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 3: If you asked Ross right now, hey, what do you
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  Speaker 3: think about the SEC this year? He'd be like, oh, what,
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  Speaker 3: Like the game's coming up. Cross we had games coming up.
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  Speaker 4: Man. I saw so I saw like, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: Ross like well enough to like go up to him
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  Speaker 4: and like have that conversation. But I saw him at
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  Speaker 4: SEC media days very briefly, and I thought to myself, like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: like you still cover football right like this, And I
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  Speaker 4: realized the sport is going in such a different direction
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  Speaker 4: with all that, and his breaking news has been phenomenal
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  Speaker 4: what he's provided. But oh, my.
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  Speaker 2: Goodness, feel for that poor guy.
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  Speaker 4: I feel to a press box.
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  Speaker 1: I heard the contra asked about the SEC said, you
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  Speaker 1: mean the security is an exchange commission.
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  Speaker 2: Oh God, save him, good one, save him.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, if that stuff goes back to
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  Speaker 1: d C when they reconvene in September, please tell me
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  Speaker 1: we're going to ignore it and just talk about football.
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  Speaker 1: I noticed something that you've tweeted. Bone with Bone brought
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  Speaker 1: this up during the break that Bruce Feldman did the
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  Speaker 1: UH on the in the Athletic his usual freaks list
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  Speaker 1: it just for every season, and there it is Nick
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  Speaker 1: Harbor right there at the top of this list. And
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  Speaker 1: you quote tweeted this and said he's a three time
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  Speaker 1: winner of the top freaking college football. It seems like
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  Speaker 1: gradually he's become more of a football player to go
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  Speaker 1: with that track star and freak athlete. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think about the chances of him putting it together and
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  Speaker 1: what do you think about the chances of sellers in
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina bouncing back this year?
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel about that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tricky because what he is as a physical
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  Speaker 4: specimen does not align with reality of what he is
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  Speaker 4: as a football player. And I don't know that those
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  Speaker 4: two things are ever going to fully align with one another.
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  Speaker 4: They might kind of in instances here and there, like
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  Speaker 4: the play that everybody was talking about against A and
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  Speaker 4: M last year where he had a runaway touchdown and
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  Speaker 4: they were talking about it because of his interaction the
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  Speaker 4: tunnel with the cops and all that stuff, like the
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  Speaker 4: lost in the shuffle part of that play is Nick
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  Speaker 4: harbor Man. When you get him in space, it is
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  Speaker 4: so special to see, and you know, talking with him
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  Speaker 4: in sec media days, it's easy to forget that this
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  Speaker 4: is someone who just for the first time this offseason,
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  Speaker 4: got a full spring playing football and didn't do the
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  Speaker 4: track thing. And so he talked about what that progression
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  Speaker 4: has been like learning what it's like to be a
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  Speaker 4: true route runner and having to read defenses. He understands
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  Speaker 4: that now in a better way than he ever has
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  Speaker 4: been able to before. And I think in this day
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  Speaker 4: and age, we need to be reminded that you can
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  Speaker 4: have all of those abilities and be able to beat
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  Speaker 4: someone off the block and the sec Everybody and their
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  Speaker 4: mother knows who Nick Harver is. Like when he steps
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  Speaker 4: on the field, they're like, well, well, he got to
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  Speaker 4: make a plan for that guy, and they have. So
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  Speaker 4: I think he's going to be able to put it
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  Speaker 4: together and continue to do what he did last year,
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  Speaker 4: which is be the go to guy. And I think
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  Speaker 4: this is a bounced back type of season. Whether or
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  Speaker 4: not that's going to be doubling the wins hoole getting
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  Speaker 4: to eight and four in the regular season, that might
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  Speaker 4: be a little bit tougher, but man, I think he's
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  Speaker 4: going to be part of a renewed sense of urgency
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  Speaker 4: that that offense is going to have, especially now with
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  Speaker 4: Kendall Brile's on board.
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  Speaker 3: Conrad, you can imagine we focus a lot on Clemson
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  Speaker 3: here and their expectations and where there are as a program,
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  Speaker 3: but they're facing one of the most fascinating teams in
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  Speaker 3: all of college football Week one, and that's Lane Kiffin's
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  Speaker 3: LSU Tigers. What do you think about LSU year one
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  Speaker 3: under Kiffin? Could they be a playoff team already?
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  Speaker 4: They could be. I mean they're a wild card. I
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  Speaker 4: don't have them making the College Football Playoff. And I
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  Speaker 4: think it's in part because I have a lot of
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  Speaker 4: questions about Sam Levitt. I think that too many people
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  Speaker 4: have overlooked the Liz frankentry that he's coming off of,
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  Speaker 4: and they just said, oh, well, you know, Lane Kiffin,
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  Speaker 4: Charlie West Junior, running a system, their quarterback is going
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  Speaker 4: to be just fine. It's always fine. I think we
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  Speaker 4: tend to forget that year one of Matt Crow and
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty at Old Miss was a lot more up
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  Speaker 4: and down and he had those grenade type games. I
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  Speaker 4: think Year one of Jackson Dart in twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 4: was a bit up and down, and he also had
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  Speaker 4: those grenade type games. And Sam Levitt did not get
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  Speaker 4: the benefit of having the spring of being able to
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  Speaker 4: actually be out there physically. And you can tell me
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  Speaker 4: you got all the mental reps in the world. I
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  Speaker 4: don't care. You need to be out there in that system,
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  Speaker 4: running that tempo in order to master it, and I
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  Speaker 4: don't know that he's a finished product. So I have
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  Speaker 4: questions about this LSU team. I think in a given
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  Speaker 4: week they can look the part, but I think they're
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  Speaker 4: gonna be a little bit more all over the place
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  Speaker 4: in what we're probably projecting in the preseason, and maybe
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  Speaker 4: that could that could surface in Week one and we
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  Speaker 4: could be like, wait a minute, I thought LSU's Week
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  Speaker 4: one issues were just the byproduct of Brian Kelly. You
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  Speaker 4: mean to tell me this is This could be a
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  Speaker 4: Laane Kiffen thing too. Like if they're in a dogfight
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  Speaker 4: against Clemson in that opener, it's not gonna surprise me.
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  Speaker 2: Mmm. Interesting. Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, Tiger fans, there's a little something for
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  Speaker 1: you because I've been on here to high it's a
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  Speaker 1: high points spread, it's eleven and a half. Yeah, I've
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  Speaker 1: been You've got that. I've been on here telling him
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  Speaker 1: for months they're going to Tiger fans go lose by
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  Speaker 1: double digits. But I always tell them that I still
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  Speaker 1: think Clemson will be better than last year, even with
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  Speaker 1: less talent. Seven and six feels like I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I hope.
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  Speaker 1: I don't thanks to Tigers and Dabbo here, but it
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  Speaker 1: feels to me Connor like a low point for him.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they will bounce back, But I also don't.
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  Speaker 1: I think like eight or nine wins. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: double digits like the old standard. What like, what are
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  Speaker 1: your expectations for this Clemson team this year?
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  Speaker 4: Whenever I try and think positive thoughts about Clemson, I
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  Speaker 4: have this. It's like a shot collar around my neck,
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  Speaker 4: and it's triggered every time I think about Chad Morris
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  Speaker 4: and the fact that Dabo brought back Chad Morris as
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  Speaker 4: the answer to his questions that he is facing. And
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  Speaker 4: it don't tell Dabbo that he's facing any questions. And
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  Speaker 4: what will be his lowest preseason ranking in fifteen years,
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  Speaker 4: he's not going to care about that. He's probably going
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  Speaker 4: to conveniently ignore the fact that his team has not
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  Speaker 4: had a better ranking, you know, in terms of where
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  Speaker 4: it's finishing the ape pool compared to where it's started
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  Speaker 4: since twenty twenty, like, actually it's even before that, it's
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  Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, come to think of it. But don't tell
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  Speaker 4: Clemson any of those things, because we're all just wrong.
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  Speaker 4: About them, and Dabo still knows what he's doing and
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  Speaker 4: he didn't just ask Garrett Riley to run Chad Morris offense. No,
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  Speaker 4: that's what he did.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Necessarily think that Clempson is goal sudden going to be
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  Speaker 4: in the college football playoff conversation. After last year, Dabo
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  Speaker 4: with everything he could have ever wanted. He had all
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  Speaker 4: the right pieces in place, with the team that's number
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  Speaker 4: one in the country and percentage of returning production. It
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  Speaker 4: was supposed to be the Toby Keith, how do you
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  Speaker 4: like me now return to prominence for Davos Sweeney. Instead
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  Speaker 4: it was the other Toby Keith. It was I ain't
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  Speaker 4: as good as I once was, and I think problem
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  Speaker 4: for a guy that's being paid the money that he's
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  Speaker 4: being paid. So no, I think Dabo has lost his fastball.
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  Speaker 4: It's all change ups that anybody can hit out of
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  Speaker 4: the park, and I think this Chad Morris move is
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  Speaker 4: a good reflection of that.
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  Speaker 3: Connor of the two teams that are not part of
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  Speaker 3: the Big ten in the SEC that guy grouped in
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  Speaker 3: with the national title contenders, that being Notre Dame Miami.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have a lean on which one of those
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  Speaker 3: two you like more entering the season, or is it
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  Speaker 3: possible that they end up as potentially the two best
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  Speaker 3: teams at the end of this thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Notre Dame has a slight edge. I
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  Speaker 4: mean you talk about you know, last year Clempson was
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  Speaker 4: number one and then the country and Bill Connolly's percentage
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  Speaker 4: of returning production. This year, it's Notre Dame. Notre Dame
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  Speaker 4: in theory, has the biggest question marks surrounding the most
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  Speaker 4: replaceable position, which is the running back position, albeit with
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  Speaker 4: two first rounders in Jeremiah Love and Jadarium Price. But
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  Speaker 4: if you look at the way that Mike Denbrock has
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  Speaker 4: typically run the football, he's just kind of figured it out,
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  Speaker 4: and I think Ayinis Williams can kind of be that
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  Speaker 4: answer and CJ. Carr taking that next step in his
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  Speaker 4: game and being the guy that you want when the
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  Speaker 4: bullets are flying. That's going to determine the up side
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  Speaker 4: of this. And then it being able to get that
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  Speaker 4: receiver room healthy, which has a lot of options. To me,
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  Speaker 4: that's going to really determine what Notre Dame does in
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  Speaker 4: the playoff, which it's a four gone conclusion that they're
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  Speaker 4: getting there. Guys like I have not seen to this
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  Speaker 4: point a team with preseason odds that like minus eight
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  Speaker 4: hundred the way that Notre Dame has, Like it's just
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  Speaker 4: a favorable path in every possible with three real games
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  Speaker 4: that could potentially push them, and then nine other games
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  Speaker 4: where you're just like, yeah, they're gonna win by four touchdowns.
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  Speaker 4: So they have the path, they have the quarterback, and
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  Speaker 4: they have coach that's made a run in the collegeball
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  Speaker 4: playoff and Marcus Freeman, and I kind of wonder with
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  Speaker 4: him this year, is he going to follow the twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty three Michigan script, the Jim Harbaugh path of winning
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  Speaker 4: a national championship and fading off into the NFL sunset.
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  Speaker 4: Having the Washington commander's job open up, he brings Mike
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  Speaker 4: Denbrock Jaden Daniels, former college offensive coordinator to run that offense,
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  Speaker 4: and he takes over there. That's kind of my bull
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  Speaker 4: prediction for the Irish, even though I don't have him
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  Speaker 4: winning the national championship. I have Oregon doing that, but
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  Speaker 4: they have all the pieces in place to be able
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  Speaker 4: to get that done.
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  Speaker 1: Good interesting stuff there. What do you think about Miami
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  Speaker 1: as a national title contender? Because I feel like they
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  Speaker 1: and Notre Dame. I feel like both of those schools
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  Speaker 1: might be top two or three, you know, maybe top
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  Speaker 1: three schools in the country before it's over.
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  Speaker 3: I guess I thought you talk about not today. I said,
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  Speaker 3: which one does he like more of those two contentions? Right,
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  Speaker 3: let's go okay, Heaven, let me rephrase this. I'm sorry
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  Speaker 3: for my friend here clogged the ears, and let me
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  Speaker 3: rephrase this. What do you think about Miami, sir?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Look, hey, we're all it's early season four.
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  Speaker 2: We're all good.
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  Speaker 4: We're it's still August. We're not doing this in September.
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  Speaker 4: It's just August.
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  Speaker 2: We're fine. No, I would never do this in September.
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  Speaker 2: Connor never right.
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  Speaker 4: For Miami's path is good. It's it's look the way
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  Speaker 4: that it sets up in the AEC. If they can't
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  Speaker 4: win the ACC now just go back. They just could
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  Speaker 4: be an independent just be an independent man, because everything
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  Speaker 4: that you could want is right there in front of you.
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  Speaker 4: And what's not there in front of you is matchups
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  Speaker 4: against Louisville and SMU, the two teams that beat you
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  Speaker 4: last year. You don't even have to face them. So
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  Speaker 4: to me, Miami, even though They've got the road game
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  Speaker 4: against Notre Dame. Like their path is so good. Darien
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  Speaker 4: Mensa is the real deal. He's already won an AEC championship. Malachai,
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  Speaker 4: Tony Mark Fletcher Junior. The skill players are really good.
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  Speaker 4: But the big question that everybody's asking about this team
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  Speaker 4: is what's it going to look like on the defensive line. Well, yes,
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  Speaker 4: you have to replace Ruben bay in a key Mesador,
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  Speaker 4: these guys who were freaks, and we're so so good.
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  Speaker 4: But Damon Wilson is second coming over from a Zoo.
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  Speaker 4: Keep an eye on him. Justin Scott, that's a guy
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of that of that defensive line that
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  Speaker 4: is going to be doing very Mezidor like things. And
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  Speaker 4: it's still Jason Taylor running that defensive line. Like, I
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  Speaker 4: just don't have the same sort of questions, even though
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  Speaker 4: I have so much respect for Bane and Mesador. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think Miami is going to still be very much
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  Speaker 4: part of the mix. Like if they're going ten and
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  Speaker 4: two even this year, I think that would be one
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  Speaker 4: of the bigger storylines of college football. I think Mario
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  Speaker 4: chris Ball has kind of gotten over some of the
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  Speaker 4: mental hurdle of those big time games like going on
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  Speaker 4: that run last year I think did a lot for
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  Speaker 4: him and his confidence. So yeah, I'm a believer that
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  Speaker 4: Miami can make a deep run, not win a national championship,
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  Speaker 4: but certainly be a part of that picture late in
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  Speaker 4: the season.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I wanted. That's all I wanted, Boone, You
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. Clearly you want war in death
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  Speaker 1: on Miami. Yeah, he just ignored the Miami part of
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  Speaker 1: the question. I was upset by it. Of course I
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  Speaker 1: heard the question. It wasn't you zoning out?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 1: I may have just listened to Connor and not you bone.
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  Speaker 1: That may have just happened there, all right. Anyway, Connor Ogeera,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to listen to him, all right, and
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to ignore things like I just did there,
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  Speaker 2: Connor. Appreciate you, brother, gentlemen.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate it.