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Scarefest with Thom Mathews · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to movie meltdown i'm brian i'm.
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  Speaker 7: Misty i'm jay i'm lucy and we're coming to you
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  Speaker 7: live via digital recording from did we ever name your
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  Speaker 7: house no do we need to seems like it needs
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  Speaker 7: a name i mean it's a very impressive house well
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  Speaker 7: this is a big moment then so.
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  Speaker 1: Drum roll please what are you naming your abode wait
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  Speaker 1: i have to do it i mean you're the one
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  Speaker 1: here all the time what am i.
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  Speaker 7: Well you're an objective person like i know the house too.
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  Speaker 2: Well You know it better than us. You should know
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  Speaker 2: its personality. You should know its spirit. Oh, God.
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  Speaker 7: I could tell you stories about the spirit of this house.
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  Speaker 7: It has quite the backstory.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have ghosts?
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  Speaker 7: I don't have ghosts that I know of, but it
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  Speaker 7: has a sordid past. Let's just say that.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody killed here?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody was killed here. Is it tawdry?
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  Speaker 2: It's a little tawdry.
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  Speaker 1: Was this a cat house at once?
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  Speaker 7: It was the madam's house, and the cat house was
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  Speaker 7: next door.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. Lucy's Cat House sounds pretty good. Full of dogs. Now, granted,
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  Speaker 1: she's bucking the system and brought in some dogs, but still.
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  Speaker 7: I think you can probably hear walking around right now. Sorry,
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  Speaker 7: there's a lot of sound effects.
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  Speaker 1: We're very dog-friendly.
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  Speaker 7: Yes well it's a very long story but the short
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  Speaker 7: version is that yes it was in fact the madam's
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  Speaker 7: house she raised her family here while the cat house
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  Speaker 7: was next door and my neighbors say that when they
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  Speaker 7: moved in there was literally a red light that was
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  Speaker 7: there and that for a number of months after they
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  Speaker 7: moved in women would just show up with suitcases thinking
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  Speaker 7: that you know it was still operational and they could
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  Speaker 7: come in and peddle.
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  Speaker 1: Their wares so you say and it's not operational I
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  Speaker 1: mean I don't know is there a price list I
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  Speaker 1: mean I'm really you know anyway Fine then, we'll go
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  Speaker 1: with the new.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't think of taking over?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, really.
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  Speaker 7: This is many, many years ago.
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  Speaker 2: It's time for a revival.
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  Speaker 1: Time for a reboot.
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  Speaker 7: Most recently, it has been a childcare operation here.
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  Speaker 1: That is a drastic change. That is totally the wrong direction.
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  Speaker 1: It's not at all what we're looking for. All right. Live,
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  Speaker 1: individual recording from Lucy's Cat House.
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  Speaker 7: I guess I should have named it myself.
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  Speaker 1: See, I told you. You could have come up with something.
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  Speaker 2: That's Madam Lucy's cat. Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: To you. So, yes, we are hanging out in Madam
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  Speaker 1: Lucy's town. We're coming to you live from Lexington. So,
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  Speaker 1: how's it been? It's been a little while for all
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  Speaker 1: of you, kind of, but even a little longer for you.
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  Speaker 1: It has.
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  Speaker 7: It's been a minute. I'm trying to think because you
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  Speaker 7: didn't invite me to actually participate in this year's Heritage
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  Speaker 7: Stanton Fest podcast.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought officially you never had time. Because I
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  Speaker 1: don't think we've talked to you at for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: I don't always make time for you.
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  Speaker 4: You know that.
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  Speaker 1: You have way too much going on that day. I
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  Speaker 1: try to stay out of your way. And that's why
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  Speaker 1: we've just elected a new dude who's always hanging around
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  Speaker 1: here eating Santan fans. Anyway, so Les has become the official, like,
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  Speaker 1: you're here, right? All right, let's go record.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's more entertaining than I am anyway.
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  Speaker 1: That works out well. I don't know about that. But
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  Speaker 1: he is on hand and not hosting the entire festival, so. Yeah, you,
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  Speaker 1: I just try to stay out of your way that
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  Speaker 1: whole weekend. Wow.
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  Speaker 7: I was glad you were here and I was glad
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  Speaker 7: that you got to enjoy the company of Mr. Alex Cox,
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  Speaker 7: who is perhaps the most delightful human being that has
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  Speaker 7: ever lived.
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  Speaker 1: Way, yeah. Surprising how, again, I wasn't sure what to
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  Speaker 1: expect going in. And yeah, way cool and super laid back.
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  Speaker 2: So laid back.
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  Speaker 1: So much more than I expected.
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  Speaker 7: So chill and so fun. Like in a way that
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  Speaker 7: directors very rarely are.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it was all good. So I was glad
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of that.
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  Speaker 2: And now you know next year you need to at
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  Speaker 2: least ask.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Next year, what are your plans?
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  Speaker 1: You have way too much going on. But if you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to cram it in there, you are more than welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: I look forward to it.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So we are here not just to take
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  Speaker 1: over your house, but we are also here for Scarefest.
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  Speaker 1: Our annual... visit to scare fest i as i said
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  Speaker 1: to our upcoming guest earlier i was like i think
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  Speaker 1: we've been at every scare fest i think we started
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  Speaker 1: the year it started.
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  Speaker 7: Right how many years has scare fest been going i
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  Speaker 7: think this was 12 oh wow okay.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe we just came to the first one and
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  Speaker 1: recorded or i don't know i don't know where the
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  Speaker 1: cutoff was that year but i feel like we've been
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  Speaker 1: to everyone so if not pretty much everyone since the
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  Speaker 1: show started so i'll take credit for that Do we
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  Speaker 1: want to recap some of the highlights? Misty was very
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  Speaker 1: social this year.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, social. I feel exhausted physically and emotionally.
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  Speaker 2: I was hugged. I'm still at your house.
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  Speaker 1: How willing was this hug, by the way?
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  Speaker 2: He came at me, and I didn't want to seem
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  Speaker 2: too violent, so I was just like, okay, here it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's happening. I'm being hugged by a random stranger. I
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  Speaker 2: even said that as he's hugging me.
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  Speaker 1: That does sound like you.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, yes. And I walked off.
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  Speaker 1: You were like, I don't know either of you people.
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  Speaker 2: Moving on. He put his fake headphones in and just
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  Speaker 2: walked away.
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  Speaker 6: They're not fake. They're very much real.
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  Speaker 2: But you're not listening to them usually, are you?
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  Speaker 1: No, I am.
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  Speaker 2: I thought usually you didn't have music on so you
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  Speaker 2: could actually hear us. That's why you just kind of
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  Speaker 2: looked at me whenever I said anything because you weren't
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  Speaker 2: actually listening to me.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty standard too, actually. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There was so much social interaction. Some guy tried to
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  Speaker 2: get me like twice. Some guy tried to sell me
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  Speaker 2: his movie twice.
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  Speaker 1: Was this the one that gave you the whole pitch
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  Speaker 1: the time I was standing there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He did have a... He had it down, but his
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  Speaker 1: salesmanship was... It was like he was trying to explain
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  Speaker 1: his movie for the first time maybe to anyone.
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  Speaker 2: Or to somebody that it might make an important deal to. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to sell me like I'm a producer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, he really did want you to fund the movie.
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  Speaker 2: He already made the movie. It's already done.
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  Speaker 1: No, that was a story. Really, he just raised enough
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  Speaker 1: money to make those postcards he was handing out.
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  Speaker 2: He was telling me who was in it, and I
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  Speaker 2: was telling him what they'd been in.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. You did correct him on his stars.
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  Speaker 2: No, because he was just like, it had Veronica Cartwright.
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  Speaker 1: Cartwright.
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  Speaker 2: It had.
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  Speaker 1: Friend of the show.
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  Speaker 2: Barry Bostwick. Barry Bostwick was in it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: And Mark Metcalf, which he's the only one that he
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  Speaker 2: bothered to tell me anything about was Mark Metcalf. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: he was in Animal House. I'm like, yeah. And he
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  Speaker 2: was in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the show. And all
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  Speaker 2: the Twisted Sister videos.
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  Speaker 1: And Dee Snider's right over there. So he has another
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  Speaker 1: connection that you should probably be using this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure there was a billion other things, but by
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  Speaker 2: then I was already trying to get out of the circle.
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  Speaker 6: So I was just like.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, and our star is over here. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, okay, you're not Barry Bostwick.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know you.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that was like, yeah. And then we were
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  Speaker 2: walking around for not even like, it wasn't even like
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  Speaker 2: 15 minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Later, maybe.
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  Speaker 8: We just walked into the next room.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, hi, I like that. I'm like, oh no,
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  Speaker 2: you already got me. We already had this discussion.
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  Speaker 1: Done been pitched.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you already got me. He's like, oh yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: thought you looked familiar. I'm like, then why did you
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  Speaker 2: approach me? And then, I thought he was going to
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  Speaker 2: give me a third time, but then I had a
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  Speaker 2: human shield.
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  Speaker 6: Who was that?
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  Speaker 2: Madame Lucy over here.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Threw her in front of you and ran away.
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  Speaker 6: See, again, if you wear headphones, nobody talks to you.
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  Speaker 1: This is a game that I feel like most of
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  Speaker 1: society is playing now. Yes. There's a lot of people.
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  Speaker 8: This is how I avoid, because people that talk to me,
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  Speaker 8: they go, hey, would you like to?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, he's got headphones in, so I just ignore people.
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  Speaker 6: I hear them. I just ignore them. So it makes
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  Speaker 6: me not seem like so much of an asshole.
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  Speaker 2: Then you're just that asshole wearing headphones to avoid everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 6: At least I got an excuse.
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  Speaker 1: The social interaction here at Movie Mountain.
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  Speaker 2: So much social interaction. I talked to several people.
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  Speaker 1: To our previous guest of the show, I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to John. Now you guys know, so I can mention
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  Speaker 1: him by name. But yeah, after having his meltdown at
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  Speaker 1: Dragon Con, it was interesting. I was like, While you're
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  Speaker 1: in company, because you haven't seen Misty in action around people.
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  Speaker 1: The other day, she went to a concert, and there
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  Speaker 1: were people near her, and her head was going to implode.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I was going to have a stroke.
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  Speaker 1: He said this is why he knows you're cool, is
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  Speaker 1: that you also.
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  Speaker 6: I'm usually okay.
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  Speaker 2: It depends on the people. These people were vile, confrontational jackasses.
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  Speaker 1: I will give you... Yeah, they were all of them.
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  Speaker 1: They were complete jackasses. It was interesting watching Misty.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, if you're on an aisle seat, for example... And
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  Speaker 2: you get there before everybody in the aisle seat is there.
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  Speaker 2: And they show up. And they are relatively large people.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she was, you know, a little bit bigger.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big girl, you know. But if you're on
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  Speaker 2: the aisle seat and people need to get in, do you,
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  Speaker 2: you know, stand up and let them in? Or do
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  Speaker 2: you just sit there and be a dick?
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to go with option A.
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  Speaker 2: And she was like, sir, can I get through?
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, no.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, he kind of tilts his knees to one side.
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  Speaker 1: He shifted his knees kind of towards the aisle, but
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  Speaker 1: barely enough to do anything.
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  Speaker 7: What was the show, just out of curiosity, who attracts
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  Speaker 7: a terrible crowd like this?
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  Speaker 1: We're not blaming Rob for this.
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  Speaker 2: We are not blaming Rob Thomas or Matchbox 20. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they showed up drunk. They showed up drunk. Like, loudly
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  Speaker 2: heckled the first two opening bands. Loudly heckled.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy who was playing, like, nine instruments. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're right. You're so much more talented than he is, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Feel free to heckle.
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  Speaker 2: He was the only guy on stage. He had the
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  Speaker 2: keyboard where you would record it. Like, you would play.
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  Speaker 1: He was, like, looping stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he would play each instrument and then fucking
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  Speaker 2: do his stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And this guy was making fun of him.
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  Speaker 2: He was literally everything up there he was playing at
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  Speaker 2: some point.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's an idiot.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He had two guitars on at one time. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That guy was very talented. The guy next to us
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  Speaker 1: was an idiot.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, back to the situation with the lady trying
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  Speaker 2: to get through. She finally squeezes through, says to the
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  Speaker 2: girl next to him, nice date you got there.
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  Speaker 7: Ooh, this became very confrontational.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hear that part. Yeah, the girl next to him,
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  Speaker 2: he kept bumping into her. And he was like, can
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  Speaker 2: you fucking believe it? Like, loudly. I'm like, I shouldn't
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: fucking have to get out. That's a fucking readout. I'm like, dude.
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  Speaker 1: You bought the ILC. You picked it.
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  Speaker 2: It costs more to get these.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I know you picked it, because it
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  Speaker 1: costs more.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, really, dude? And I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: have such stress and anxiety. I was about ready to cry.
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  Speaker 2: My entire body tensed up.
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  Speaker 6: Especially around drunk people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, around drunk people. You have a problem with people
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  Speaker 2: without alcohol. But yeah, they were drunk, and they went
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  Speaker 2: out at least twice to go to the bar in
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  Speaker 2: the palace lobby.
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  Speaker 1: And eventually, I think you wished hard enough.
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  Speaker 2: Two-thirds of the way through... The second guys, after they
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  Speaker 2: had bitched and cried, we want Rob Thomas, we want
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  Speaker 2: Rob Thomas. They left. I'm assuming they go to the bar.
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  Speaker 2: Never came back.
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  Speaker 1: Never came back for the actual show that they were at.
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  Speaker 1: So we only assume they got kicked out because they
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  Speaker 1: were drunk.
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  Speaker 2: Or got too drunk and couldn't find their way back
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  Speaker 2: to their seats.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that. Just rolling around on the floor somewhere, maybe.
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  Speaker 2: But that situation is what puts me like, I can
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  Speaker 2: deal with conventions for the most part. I can deal with.
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  Speaker 1: We're kind of used to that at this point.
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  Speaker 2: I can deal with, like, festivals to some degree. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, outside street festivals. Harvest Homecoming, for example.
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  Speaker 1: Harvest Homecoming specifically.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, people that are, like, confrontational and drunk, I
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  Speaker 2: just can't deal with.
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  Speaker 1: They were obnoxious. But yeah.
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  Speaker 8: But every show we've been at, we've had that kind
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  Speaker 8: of problem.
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  Speaker 2: But not to that degree.
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  Speaker 6: Not to that degree.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, when we were at the Rob Zombie concert,
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  Speaker 8: there was that one girl that was.
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  Speaker 6: Face planted in the aisle.
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  Speaker 2: After she was like, she was like drinking. This was
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  Speaker 2: on a fucking Monday, by the way, a Monday. She's
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: in the aisle, beer in one hand, swinging it. It's
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  Speaker 2: like arcing everywhere. And I know those drinks can't be cheap.
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  Speaker 2: So she's like drenched like the carpet of the palace.
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  Speaker 2: And like, it's got to be at least a $ 10 beer.
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  Speaker 2: She's just swashing it all around. Like, oh my God.
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  Speaker 6: And then she face planted.
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  Speaker 1: And we laughed.
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  Speaker 2: Good times. I don't even know how we got here.
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  Speaker 8: Rob Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're blaming Rob Thomas.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't have those experiences today.
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  Speaker 2: There did seem to be more people in general.
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  Speaker 8: I only shoulder checked one person.
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  Speaker 1: I had that with a clown. So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if that really counts.
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  Speaker 6: It's the guy that got in Misty's way that was like, uh, Beetlejuice!
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  Speaker 6: When watching where he was going.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that fucking asshole.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I thank you for shoulder checking that.
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  Speaker 6: I shoulder checked him.
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  Speaker 2: That guy was just wandering about, meandering.
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  Speaker 6: He wasn't paying attention, so I checked him.
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  Speaker 1: What is wrong with people?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there were more people in costumes than... Because it
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: seems like they've been kind of slacking on costumes in
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  Speaker 2: the past couple years when it comes to Scarefest.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of them are clowns. I can't get behind that.
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  Speaker 2: But most of them are promoting something. Half of them,
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  Speaker 2: if they're clowns, they're either promoting some kind of movie,
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  Speaker 2: a production company, or some kind of haunted house. Or attraction.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not involved in any of those.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: They just seem like a bunch of clowns to me.
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  Speaker 2: I just get aggravated when they half-ass the costumes. Or
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: they half-ass the entire getup.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: This is an ongoing issue for you, so feel free
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: to continue this.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you're wearing the full fucking goth belt,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: you have your fishnets, your leather things, your short, your buckles,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: and then you're wearing fucking running shoes. Not even, like,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: cool running shoes, but when you're wearing, like, New Balance or, like, Nikes.
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: Or Keds.
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: Keds.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Not even wearing Chucks. You're not even wearing, like, cool shoes.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: Dr.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Scholl's.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: You could throw some Chucks on there, and I would
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: find it respectable.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: That's just because Chucks are awesome.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: You can't go wrong with Chucks.
• 16:00
  Speaker 8: Black Chucks.
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: If you're going.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Or at least some variety of black.
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, something like that.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Or gray. Our cool dude with the old-timey outfit, and
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: then his were like New Balance, too.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: I thought he was wearing Nikes.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell. I don't know. They were not cool.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: The DMV.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: We previously mentioned, not by name, but he's a director,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: and Misty mostly knows him from the DMV. He hangs
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: out at the DMV. That's how you know he's a
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: pretty high-dollar director.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they switched things around this year, but I guess
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: you said they switched things around last year, but I
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: don't remember.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I remember you complaining about last year.
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: I don't remember last year either.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I thought it was just shortened up from last year.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: They changed the layout because you have a very specific
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: way that we walk, and you're the one that has
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: to keep charge of it. So I'm like, okay, as
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: long as you remember where we've been, we start on
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: this aisle, we go down this side, whatever. But you
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: have a specific pattern, and then they totally changed the way,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: so you couldn't do that last year. And then this
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: year was spread out even more differently. So it's just confusing.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Mostly you, the rest of the people probably don't care,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: but you know, you moved our water bowl while we're
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: discussing dogs. So it throws us off. We're not, we're geeks.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: We're not used to these things.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, I saw Bruce Campbell.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I've seen him a few times in my life, but
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: it's always good to see him.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: He did look very dapper.
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: I was going to say dashing. Dashing and dapper.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I know, right? I think I did say used car
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: salesman as well.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: But a good one.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: But a good used car salesman. Yeah, I don't mean that.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: A successful one. Yeah, I don't mean that in a
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: bad way, which I.
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: Guess is- Did he wear his mirrored aviators?
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: No, he had the tinted version going on.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: Oh, I thought they were mirrored.
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: Oh, I thought they were too. They just gave that impression.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I could see his eyeballs.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was just tinted. It was just
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: an effect. I can't see very well. He had a
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: very cool set of glasses on and his stylish leisure
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: suit action.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: The lonely table of Lee Majors.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: I understand why there weren't more people at Lee Majors' table.
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: I'm poor, so I would have gotten something, but I'm broke.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Again, I feel like if we switched up and put
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: it at one of the comic pop culture-y conventions, he
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: probably would have more people. They just tried to play
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: the Bruce Campbell- tie in for Evil Dead and I
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: guess it didn't work out so much. At least not today.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe tomorrow he'll have tons of people.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: He didn't look as pissy about being alone at his table.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Than some other people. He's just flipping through his phone
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: looking at stuff. He's laid back.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: It was surprising to me though because I feel like
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: Lee Majors actually has like a very substantial Lexington fan
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: base because he's a Kentucky boy. I mean he was
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: born in Michigan but when his parents passed away he
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: came here and lived in Kentucky. And got a start
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: at the Pioneer Playhouse in Danville. And we showed Steel
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: a few years ago. Did he visit any of the
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: Madhouse bookstore? I can't speak to that. I do know
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: that he spent a lot of time down the street
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: at the Continental Inn, which was a very fancy motel
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: back in the day. And when he filmed Steel here
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: in the 70s, that was during his high life with
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: Farrah Fawcett. And they stayed at the Continental Inn. So
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: it wasn't far from the cat house.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Is the castle, were they in the castle?
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Or was that Ryan's? Who bought the castle at some
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: point up the block there?
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: In Versailles? The Versailles castle?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: The giant castle?
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: Not to be confused with the Versailles castle. The many
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: other castles. I don't believe anyone... I think there was
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: a rumor that William Shatner bought it at one point,
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: but that's not true.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: It was somebody in Farrah Fawcett was the rumor. I'm
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: not saying it actually happened, but the rumor that went
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: around for years, and I don't remember if it was...
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Like when Ryan O'Neill was with, I thought they were
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: together at one point, weren't they? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I thought maybe it was when they were. And then
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: on the way here, I was like, or was Lee
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Majors involved?
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I couldn't remember. It doesn't matter.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: This is how these rumors get started. We're going to
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: change it every time. And we're perpetuating them.
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: It is apocryphal, no matter what celebrity you insert in there.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: At one point, Bruce Campbell owned it. I'm starting a
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: new rumor.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Go with it. at some point i own it and everybody.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Needs to get the fuck out i do have plans
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: for it if they just go ahead and turn it
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: over to me now i've got a lot of stuff
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: i need to put in there so it's a love
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: if you need a visual you know email me i
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: can send you there's one day i was this shows
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: you i have no in regular life i have no
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: real life or work to do so i was killing
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: time and i was like i wonder if google earth
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you can see what's going on in that castle so
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: i sat there for quite a while switching my like
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you can you can get right over top of it
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and get it the 3d angle and kind of see
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the walls and so yeah i sat there looking at
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that castle for quite a while on google well.
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: You know you can stay in the castle now guess that.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Seems like a lot more effort than just dialing it
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: up on google yeah.
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: Fair enough considerably more expensive driving.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: And they probably want money yeah so i was just
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: curious as to the layout from other than the street
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: where i always see it when i.
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: Drive past pretty standard castle stuff yeah.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: But it's spread out too it's not like a tight
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: knit like no weird there's no there's not cool like
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: turret towers or anything it's very spread out like In
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: case of a battle, like you've got a nice wall. Again,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: this is why I would build a castle in case there's,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you know, hordes of enemies coming at me. I'd have
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: a good wall and you'd have the nice little, your
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: corner pieces where you could put your archers and, you know,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: start firing.
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: Away at people.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's got a good layout for defending yourself.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's very different than some of your more
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: storybooky castles. Yeah.
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: Well, do you know the origin story of the castle?
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: Because it's heartbreaking.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Let's go into it right now.
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: It's not exactly movie related unless you want me to throw.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: In a Lexington related. We're in town for that. Let's go.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: Well, I remember being a kid and apparently the gentleman
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: who built the castle, he had gone on a honeymoon
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: with his wife. He was a successful man with a
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: successful business. And he took his lady to Europe and
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: she saw a lot of castles and loved them. And
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: he said, baby, I'm going to when we get home,
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: I'm going to I'm going to build you a castle.
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: And so they came back to Kentucky and he started
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: building his wife, as promised, the castle. As it turns out,
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: it takes a lot of money to build a castle.
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: Like a lot of money to build a castle. So
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: at some point after he got that one big wall,
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: he was just like, oh, I don't really super know
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: if this is going to work out.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Honey, I'm going to build you a wall.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: How about that?
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: At which point she said, all right, I'm out and
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: left him. And when I was a kid, he was
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: literally living in a trailer behind his would-be castle.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was heartbreaking.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Jesus.
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: And so then when he passed away, then somebody who
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: had grown up saying, I want to buy a castle.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I want a castle like that.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: We're only done. Lee Majors or possibly Ryan O'Neill or
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: possibly Bruce Campbell.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Bruce Campbell.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: There's a lot.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: There's a lot to the story of the castle.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, if you guys need a visual, let me know.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: We'll send you some pictures of the castle. Yeah. I
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: like to stalk it on the internet, so that's fine. Yeah.
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: And again, the city of Versailles, for people who don't
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: live in Kentucky, we pronounce it wrong.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: But everyone does it, so we're just used to it.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sure when they named it, it was Versailles. That's
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: not how people.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Say it around here. Yeah.
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: But we have a castle now.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: And I totally derailed your entire story to get to
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the castle. Back to Lee Majors and the cat house.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: That's it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: I do that.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: I mean, if people aren't familiar with the movie Steel
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: that was made in this. Have you all seen? Have
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: we seen it? Have you seen it, Brian?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: No, I remember.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Guys, that's a classic.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Again, I think I remember hearing the thing was going
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: on here like after it was too late and I couldn't. So, yeah,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think I had any connection to it.
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, so back in the day, and this again
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: was at the height of Lee Major's fame, he is
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: very obviously invested in stunts. And one of his best
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: friends was a stuntman. And they needed to have a
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: high rise that was in the process of being built.
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: That was part of it. That was a story element.
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: And so they sort of searched high and low. And
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: Lexington happened to have a building that they were erecting
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: exactly the correct height of what they needed. And so
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: they chose Lexington as their filming location. So he came
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: back to Kentucky. And his stuntman, who was filling, they
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: have a long sort of storied past, but they had
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: already done the stunt successfully. But the stuntman, I guess
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: that somebody had just broken his personal world record for
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: a fall. So they said, well, let's do the stunt again,
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: and I'm going to do it. And we're going to
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: go a little higher this time. And they went a
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: little higher, and he did the stunt. And everybody came
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: out because this was a big deal. It was going
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: to be in the Guinness Book of World Records. Everybody
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: came out.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: The idea is into like one of the giant airbag
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: kind of things. Yeah, exactly.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: It's going to go into one of the giant airbags.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Just trying to get the visual going here.
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: And he fell into the airbag and kept going. And
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: so there's like an entire generation of kids just a
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: couple years older than me who were there, who watched it.
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: That's one of their first memories is watching.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: More lovely stories.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry. That got dark.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: See, I knew there was that angle.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: How dark did it go? Did he live or did
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: he not?
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I knew there was a stuntman that died in ball
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: and steel.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't know if he was just
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: gravely bad hurt.
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: He died in the hospital, so at least they got
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: him in the ambulance and nobody saw a dead body,
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: but he didn't make it.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: You saw a soon-to-be dead body.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, everybody's that eventually, right? I myself am
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: a hopefully not soon-to-be dead person.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Hopefully many years down the line.
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I saw a t-shirt coming back to Scarefest. They
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: had a lot of children's clothes. That's a big thing
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: right now at Scarefest. And they had a little baby
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: t-shirt that said Future Haunter. And it was like a
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: haunted house. And I was like, that's really morbid.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, are you not familiar with Casper? For generations,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: kids have loved the dead baby idea. Whatever small child
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Casper was when he keeled over.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: In the movies, a teenager.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Well, that's because Christina Ricci was a teenager and they
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: had to, you know, get them together. It had to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: be a nice little couple actually.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: And Devin Sawa was dreamy. Good.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I forgot about it. He is there. You're right.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: He was the greatest.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: What else did we see today? Escalator action.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I was like. Who is that incredibly emaciated man wearing
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: what looks like a woman's sweater?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Is that G.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Tom Mack on the escalator? Yes, it was.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, it was.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming if you're a horror dork, you already know.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: But the creator of the theme to The Lost Boys,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: as later it was referred to, maybe it always was.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I guess maybe it was in the credits that way.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: But it then became used as like when they started
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: making really bad sequels. I think they continually work that
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: part in. So it's become like the running theme. overarching
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: theme that is driving the Lost Boys franchise, but let's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: just stick with the first good movie. It's the one
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: that you all remember, and I've played many times on
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: this show, so I'll try not to play it again.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: You should play it again.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: You can play the Marilyn Manson version because he did
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: cover it.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: See, I do like occasionally working in covers because that
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: makes it kind of different than what I've played before.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: So maybe, you know, we'll take that break. We'll hear
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: a little Marilyn Manson sample of it.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Damn!
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• 29:15
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• 29:18
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• 29:21
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• 29:25
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• 29:30
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• 29:32
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• 29:49
  Speaker 1: There's a pumpkin pie latte. I guess you get, like,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: chunks of crust or something.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Pumpkin Spiceburg. Now, come on. That sounds festive and fun.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: There's a salted caramella. You get your apple cider. Caramel
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: apple cider. Pumpkin apple cider. How many things can we
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: cram into these? Many, many variations. Just because it's Halloween
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you get a pass to not drink tons
• 30:13
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• 30:16
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• 30:18
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• 30:23
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• 30:26
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• 34:40
  Speaker 4: When we're out in the graveyard For more than an
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: hour Then we.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Heard grateful footsteps From behind our car There was lightning
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: in the sky Someone's going.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: To die And so I said.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: To Steve.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: We also saw Dee Snider and his tiny little skinny
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: pencil legs.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: But in rock star pants. He is a rock star
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and he definitely had on rock star pants.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: He did walk through the bathrooms, I guess, through the
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: food court area after you all left. Decent. You were
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: on the phone with Richie taking more stories and I'm like,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: was that before? Because Phyllisa Rose had already wandered by.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw her.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: That was right before I left there. She was heading
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: up the escalator, so.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: This is the first time in the history of ever
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: that I did not see Kane Hodder have a line.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Has everybody who wanted Kane Hodder's autograph finally gotten it?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I've thought that for years. I'm like, how do you
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: not already have his? I see him every other weekend
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: of my life.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Because I'm serious. I'm like, literally almost every time we
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: see him, he has a line that's like out the
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: damn door. And I'm just like, I wasn't even in
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: like the big Jason movies.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, Bruce still has like out the door. And
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: that's not that he doesn't deserve it because Bruce Campbell's awesome.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: But I'm just like, I've seen him at so many,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and he always has that line. I'm like, are these
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: people coming back? Is this all repeat customers?
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Yet I still go to half-priced books to find a
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: signed copy for $ 10. That's what you do.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: You have maybe a problem. It's certainly an obsession. I'm thrifty.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: You're not just thrifty. It's also the hoarding aspect of
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: it that I'm working on.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: How many signed copies of Charlton Heston's book do I have?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: But yet I passed one up today.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: It's because it was too expensive, though. That's the thrifty
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: kicking in.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: It was $ 8, and it was paperback. And that is
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: just not worth the investment.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: How many copies?
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: You already got God's signature on many other books. You
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: don't need another one.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I do have the sign, Charlton Heston reads the Bible
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: or some shit.
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: I am not familiar with this phenomenon. How long have
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: you been collecting Charlton Heston autograph books?
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: It's been several years.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: And it's the same book. It's not like it's a
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: different book.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I've got three different ones, I think.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, goodness.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I've got at least, I think In the Arena is
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the one that I have the most copies of, but
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I do have the one of him doing, it's not
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: a book of him reading the Bible because that would
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: be silly.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, he kind of does that.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. I don't know. It's something Bible-y in Charlton Heston.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Because he had that infomercial back when he was.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: He got it at a flea market for $ 3.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Leave me alone. When he was still around, he had
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: that weird infomercial thing that was on that was him
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: basically telling you the stories of the Bible, but they
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: did bad.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Accompaniment with probably actors who didn't know what they were
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: doing and I mean he was but this was like
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: he was more of like the narrator I felt like
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: guiding you through and then they would cut to like
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: scenes of like people in like cosplay versions of Jesus
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Times outfits and Probably at the beach so they could
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: get some sand or something. I don't know. I feel
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: like what little I remember from the commercial is it
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: looked not the highest quality, highest budget reenactments of the
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Bible stories.
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: Dude, I saw that movie so many times as a kid. Well,
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: that's awesome, actually.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a huge epic. I've never seen it.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: They don't make things like that anymore.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: That's the worst part. I've never seen anything drop this
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: since time.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Didn't I force you to watch Planet of the Apes
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: at some point in your life?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay. Yeah, that's been a long time ago.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: A long time. I mean, that's the crown jewel of
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: his career. Come on.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I think I have seen it once.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I take it back.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I take it back. I totally forgot that. That was
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: like me being all proud that I'd never seen anything that,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: was it Key and Peele had done? Then Marlena was like,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: what about the school thing with the names? And I'm like, oh.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: And you've eaten Soylent Greens. I mean, you're halfway there.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: They're doing it right now.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not even like a super big Charlton Heston fan.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I'll put it that way. He's okay. I mean, I
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: have found more signed copies of that book than I
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: have found unsigned copies.
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: I was about to say, so when did you discover?
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, if I go to a used bookstore right now,
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: it's like odds on that if I open a Charlton Heston.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Book, he's autographed it. If you go to the one
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: over on Tiverton Way, there's one right now if you've
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: got eight bucks on you. The one over on Sir
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Barton Way, not so much. Because I didn't see one. Because, yeah,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I'll even pick up one that has the little label
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: that has the price and it'll say signed, even if
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: it's not. Because I guess by now the bookstores have
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: realized that chances are, fuck it, it's probably signed. And
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: they don't care. Amazing. I'm one of those, if I
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: go to a bookstore, I will check a lot of
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: books to see if they're signed. Because I'm a collector
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: of signed things. I don't know, it's weird. I'll just
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: go through and look. And chances are, no. Except for
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: that Matt Penfield book, which is going to be there
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: till the day i die.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Matt will follow you around the rest of your life
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: so what's your most prized autographs book.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Oh i don't know that's a tough question one that
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: i found at like a bookstore one that i specifically
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: bought oh one of each one of my i have
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: a signed ray bradbury um I can't remember. It's something
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: past midnight. So it has a collection. It has October,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: the October story in it. I'm getting the October game.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I'm getting it all wrong. It has the picture where
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: there's like a groveling girl sitting on a girl's chest
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: while she's trying to sleep.
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: But you got a Ray Bradbury.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: So that's pretty awesome.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: And one that I found at... I actually found... That's
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: a tough one because I have found so many of
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: them that I've been way too excited about.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Long After Midnight?
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Long After Midnight. Slash? No, I don't have a Slash.
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: Oh, you don't have a Slash?
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: I have several Duff McKagans.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: You got a Duff. Several Duff McKagans.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: I found several Duff McKagans and a Stephen Adler. Thank
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: you very much.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Wow. Popcorn, mind you. For our movie tie-in, Stephen Popcorn Adler.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: How about people who actually have signed them? You stood
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: in front of your hero and he signed a book
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I have found so many R.L. Stine books at different conventions,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: but R.L. Stine, getting it in person, like in person, like.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: This was funny because most people in the world I
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: don't interact with, as you know. Outside of the show,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I try not to interact with humans. And this person
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: had known me for a while, had no idea I
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: did this, had no idea. They were all like, you
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: don't have a Facebook page. I'm like, it's my name.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Have you ever... Obviously, you just don't care because... all
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: you have to do, and they, within seconds, were like, hey,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: you do, and they're scrolling through, and of all the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: ridiculous pictures of me and some random celebrity, this, and again,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: much younger, like, I was surprised, because he's a kid still, essentially,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: he's like, dude, you've seen my favorite person, it was R.L. Stine,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: of all the people, like, he was so excited that
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I had met R.L. Stine, and I was like, okay, like, Yes,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: he's very cool.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: And I want to specify that I did not meet
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Ray Bradbury. I bought the book off the internet.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I was like putting a separate category
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: of when you actually like stood in front of it
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and they signed the book.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: But yes, R.L.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Stine.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I grew up on Fear Street Books. Yes, no. I didn't, actually.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, you at least know the name.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Okay. Goosebumps? I'm not a Goosebumps fan. I was Fear Street.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I was a little bit older. Yeah, Goosebumps was aimed
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: more at kids, where Fear Street was like the teenagers.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to sound like condescending. There was just
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: a reference I made earlier.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: People love Goosebumps, and that's, yeah, definitely.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: There was a reference I made earlier today that's something
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I grew up with, and you had no idea what
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I was talking about, and I was just like, but, but,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Eerie Indiana was great.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: That's another side road we can go down. How many
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: people commented on your eerie Indiana shirt?
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: There were so many people that commented on it that
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I lost track. And I was just like, thank you.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Because my voice gets really squeaky and high sometimes when
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I say thank you. I don't even understand why. I
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: just say, oh, I like your shirt.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what happens. I can't help it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I can't stop it. I get excited, too, after I
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: make sure. I'm like, what the fuck am I wearing?
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: Hold on.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I think every convention you have to do that. People
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: are like, I love your shirt. And you're like, wait,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: which one? I have a lot of awesome shirts is
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: what you're thinking. And you're just like, which one did
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I put on?
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Because that's how the hugging guy pulled me in. Because
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: he referenced my shirt and informed me that there was,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I did not know that there was a season two
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: of Eerie Indiana. Because I asked the guy, I'm like,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: at first I thought he was bullshitting me. I said,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: you're lying to me.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I still question it. He seemed kind of like a bullshitter.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: And I still, you called him on it immediately. I did.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, you're full of shit. And he's like,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: oh no. He got his phone. He was like looking
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: it up.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. But I'm pretty sure he set up his own
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: fake Wikipedia page or whatever he pulled up as proof.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: It could be.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Well, he did have one fact wrong because I asked him, well,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: did it come out directly at the same time?
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: He was like, yes. He said like right after.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Well, it did not because I looked it up. The
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: original Eerie Indiana ran from 91 to 92. Whatever the
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: new one was, the Eerie Indiana. The next dimension or
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: another dimension.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Or something like that. It was 1998.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: You're going from when I'm like 11 and 12.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: To when I'm 18. I'm too cool for this now.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I had a job. I had an apartment.
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: I had a life.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, I had shit to do.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know about some of those things, but you
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: probably had a job.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had an apartment. I moved out a month
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: after I turned 18.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Too busy for eerie Indiana.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I never knew that it was
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: a thing.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I'd never heard that either. I mean, I'm a dork.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I wasn't that. I remember watching the show when it
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: first came on, but I don't remember like seeking it
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: out since then. But I also have never heard anything
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: about this other season. I heard about it, but I
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: don't think I ever watched it.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Are you lying to me?
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: The first season, right? Not the second season.
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: No, just any of it.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I thought you were saying, I knew of the second season.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I just didn't tell you, Misty. I've known for years.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: We all knew. You didn't even know in the first season.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: When you would leave the room, we would laugh and
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: laugh and be like, did you watch it again last night?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: So did I.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: The things she doesn't know.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: This is most of what we plan while you're out.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Which they are bringing back one of my other favorite
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: shows from my childhood. I don't know if they're bringing
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: it back in TV form, but are you afraid of
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: the dark?
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: It seems like the time to make this work.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: It was another Nickelodeon show.
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: See, I'm older than you.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Not by much, though. You can't possibly be that much older.
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: No, because I mean, in 91, so I would have
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: been 15. So I would have already been kind of
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: aged out.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: But when you're a kid, those are a lot of years.
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: That's a generational divide, Misty.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: If you're older. mentally special because that's the thing is
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: i remember all of these but it's like i never
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: grew up so like i still people will reference stuff
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: like way younger than me and i'm like yeah i
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: remember like i was watching children's programming then like i
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: do now so yeah i know and that's what i'm
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: saying that's how you stay young and keep alive you
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: watch things that creep other people out anyway so yeah.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Creeping on them disney girls is what you're.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Doing sometimes but also it's really good writing Anyway.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, the guy lured me in because that's what
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: brought me in. And he had a wheel. I can't
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: not spin a fucking wheel. If you have a wheel,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: it needs to be spun.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: There were a lot of wheels there, too, I've got
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: to say. We passed by.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I spun one wheel. I got out of spinning the
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: first one because I just wanted a certain thing. And
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, can I just sign up? Can I
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: just have this?
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I spun the wheel, and I got a tiny flash.
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: I got a dragon.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Your dragon's pretty cool.
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: I gave it to Misty.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Misty picked it up. I just gave it to her.
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: I was like, pick it out. You're going to have
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: it anyways.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: It is pretty cool.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: What am I going to do with it?
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: They had little cute little keychains that had unicorns. And
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck yeah, I want a unicorn. That's the
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: only reason I'm signing up for this.
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: They remind me of those puffy stickers.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: They were like puffy stickers in a keychain form.
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: But it was a keychain.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Unicorns. It had little hearts. And I was like a
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: little 12-year-old girl. And I was excited.
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: And you squeaked.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I did literally squeak at some point today. And I
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: can't remember why.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I don't remember either.
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: Most of the day you squeaked at stuff.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I can't help it. There were things and stuff. People
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: talked to me and then some girl said she hated me.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: That was Lucy. It was uncalled for. Wait, what are
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: you talking about, by the way?
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: That's the one girl. What did she say? Did she
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: just say, I hate you? I thought she said, I
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: hate your guts.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, did she?
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Do we know these people?
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: She asked where I got my purse and I'm like,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I ordered it online. She's like, oh, I hate you.
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: It was like a I'm jealous of you, hate you.
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: Not like a contemptuous for no reason.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: It could have been either way. I told her where
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I ordered it from. I'm like, you wait till they
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: have sales. It's only like $ 16 and you can get
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: whatever you want put on it. Hello, free shipping.
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: But then you got to wait for months. I did
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: warn her that.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: You had to wait a while.
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: She thinks she hates you now.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: She's really six months in and she's like, where's my purse?
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: She says she orders from Wish all the time so
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: she understands.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: You do order things from weird parts of the world
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: all the time.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I can't help it.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: They're cheap.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: What about you? Did you experience anything? You were there.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: You saw stuff too.
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: I did see stuff. I'm trying to think if there
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: were any standouts. Those boxes of sex things, the naughty boxes.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe you wandered into a different part of the convention.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: What?
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Stocking up for Madam Duties. I understand. It's necessary. It's necessary.
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: No, we were just passing by and there were these boxes.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I think I do remember.
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: There was like a sign that says mystery boxes of
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: naughty things. And it was like $ 75 worth of naughty
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: things in this box for only $ 40.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't see the price tag. They better be really
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: naughty because that's pricey.
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: They had written on the, like, so it was, like,
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: gift-wrapped boxes, but they looked like nobody had ever bought them.
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: So they've been, like, to convention after convention after convention.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: They're, like, three inches of dust on them.
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: And, like, it's written in Sharpie on the box, like,
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: naughty things.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Is it the same one that had the Bob Ross box? Oh,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I missed that. That's the only thing I saw was
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: the Bob Ross box. I didn't see the Naughty Boxes.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: That's like where my mind goes.
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: So it was like a box of Bob Ross? Wait,
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: I don't understand.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Was it like the very last, like in that back wall?
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: It was on the back wall. Or like the wall
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: with the concession.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't see that one. I guess that's the side.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I was thinking of the one that was at the
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: very back, the very last aisle we went down. Because
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: they had like different mystery boxes. And they had a
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: box of Bob Ross things. And then they had like.
• 48:53
  Speaker 8: No, those were all toys.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Was it toys?
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it had a Bob Ross.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Well, those were toys too.
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: No, these were.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: We don't know. It was a wrapped box.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: It started bouncing around all on its own.
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: Because it had like the list of everything that they had.
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: So they had like Minecraft, Bob Ross, Fortnite.
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: I don't know, whatever.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Like if you walk in the doors, it was the
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: back door.
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: I know which one it was.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't see the naughty box.
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: There was a list of things that could be in
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: the box. Dirty pictures. It was very strange.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: What else is on this list? I don't remember.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Polaroids.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: We might have to drive back now. Hold on. This
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: might be a good idea.
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: Not Todd's Polaroids.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I think we've complained about Todd on the show before.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Let's not go down that road again.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: It's not a pleasant road. You never experienced that, did you?
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You were lucky and you are blessed
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: because you did not have to see Todd's family photos.
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: I don't know if I know who Todd is.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: You don't.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: You are also lucky. It's probably best if we keep
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: it that way.
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: Hey, you want to see some pictures.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Of my uncle?
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: I'm going to have to go back in the archives.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: So in addition we also got to talk to someone
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: awesome this week tom with an h he does have
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: an h matthews with one t just to be confusing
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: his matthews only has one t he's still awesome though
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: yeah i had a very specific tie-in with one of
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: his movies and and wanted to go on and on
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: about that so i'm sure if you know me you
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: know which movie i've been overly pleased with for the
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: entirety of my life since i saw it so So
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: let's go do that right now as we talk with
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Tom Matthews. Yes!
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: Come on, baby, let's take a walk.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Don't be shy, you don't.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Have to talk.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: Let's go, baby, come with me.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I always try to get kind of a start at
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: the beginning and get an idea of how everybody got
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: to where they are when they're following whatever it is,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: whatever path, whatever their dream is. So I guess first off,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: where were you born?
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: I was actually born, you're not going to believe that,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: I was born on Hollywood Boulevard at the Hollywood Presbyterian.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: And my two brothers and I had this very same doctor.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: This has become, and that's kind of why I always
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: start there, because this has become an interesting game of, like,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: how many people start in, like, Ohio and then make
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: their whole life a journey leading to Hollywood and L.A.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: And then the.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Handful of people that were actually born there. And, you know,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: so I guess what was the experience for you being, like,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Immersed in that from birth, like surrounded by the industry,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: like it's a different feeling.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: Well, my grandfather, yes. I was born on Hollywood Boulevard,
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: although I grew up in Covina with my family. They
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: bought a brand new house after the developer had taken down,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: I think there was like orange fields out there. And
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: so that was a brand new house to my mom
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: and dad. And it was a ways out, probably a
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: 45-minute drive to Hollywood. where my grandparents lived, and my
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: grandfather was a carpenter, and he worked on the set
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: of some movies and stuff.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: So... Eventually going to come full circle.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: It sounds like. Yes, exactly. So I ended up.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that later.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I ended up growing up in Covina. My mom
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: and dad got divorced. My mom remarried a guy who
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: lived in Pasadena. So I spent my junior year in
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: high school in Pasadena, and then they separated... So I
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: went back full circle to my grandmother's. My mom moved
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: back to Covina with my sister. My younger brother and
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: I went to my grandmother's, who lived on Coinga Boulevard,
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: right in the heart of Hollywood. And I ended up
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: graduating from Fairfax High School and working at the farmer's market.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: So at that point, had it already kind of occurred
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: to you? Were you involved in school plays? No. When
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: did it start as far as in town? Anything involving
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: acting or film.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, after high school, foundering, not really having a direction
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: in life. Still there. Not knowing. I had the talent
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: of a carpenter because unbeknownst to me, it actually had
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: a value to people because I always thought growing up,
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: I didn't give myself credit. I always thought whatever I knew,
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: everyone else knew because I knew it, so everyone else
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: must have known it.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: You just observed it so much growing up that you
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: picked everything up?
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: That is useful.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: I took carpentry in high school and woodshop class and
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: stuff like that. I did some painting and stuff. It
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: was out of high school where a girlfriend of mine
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: suggested and it was the weirdest feeling. Normally when you
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: feel something You feel it in your gut?
• 54:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Okay. This girlfriend at the time said, why don't you
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: become an actor? And it was literally like someone had
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: taken a needle and stuck it in my brain and
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: then exploded this thing inside my head. That was the
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: sensation I had. I've never had it since.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Obviously, it was something.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: It was something. It was something weird because it wasn't
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: in my gut, which is normally how you.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: Your instincts are in your gut.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, you deserved it growing up. I mean, did
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: you have good or bad feelings at that point?
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: I had no thoughts about it. About acting? None at all.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: It wasn't even a consideration.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: Never even thought about it until she said it and
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: was like, bam, that's what I'll do. So I started
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: studying and I wasn't calling myself an actor because I
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: wasn't making any money at it.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: That's an ongoing fight for most actors.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: Or any profession, I guess.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Certainly in the arts.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. So that was a struggle and I kept
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: it under wraps. And then I started slowly doing commercials
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: and made the transition from my job over at Lorimar
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: Productions because I knew I went over there and got
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: a job over there and got my SAG cards through.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: through Laura Marth to a casting director on Knot's Landing.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: Her name was Dora Saba. And they tapped Hartley and
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: they gave me a walk on it. I had a
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: couple of lines.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: That was huge at that point.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: For me, it was huge. And just being around, you know,
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: I made a conscious decision to go work at Laura Marth,
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: to be around it and stuff like that. And then,
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: you know, I just started slowly getting some jobs. I
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: did some print work as a transition from commercials... in
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: my daytime job. And so that kind of sustained me
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: for a while. Did very well in commercial work. For
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: a three-year period, I got every 10th commercial I went
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: out on, which was great. Yeah, that's compared to most.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: Made it fun going to the mailbox every day. And
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: then in between that, I started doing my carpentry stuff.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: Because I hated sitting around waiting for phone calls to
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: Go do auditions and stuff. So I had to keep busy.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I think that's what's changed in the industry now because
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: everything is so potentially you can start doing things yourself.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Like there's so many actors and directors that are just like,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: all right, well, fine. We have the equipment. Like, let's
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: just go do it. Where you couldn't do that in
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: like 70s and 80s. You didn't have that option. You
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: had to sit and wait for the phone or go
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: get another job.
• 56:47
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Well, then, I guess, again, I'm definitely going to head
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: towards horror. I mean, was there other stuff coming up
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: before then, or were you already interested in horror that
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: early on? Not at all. Yeah?
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: The first movie I ever got was The Woman in Red.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: Met Gene Wildery, hired me on the spot, did that,
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: and then I got Return of the Living Dead.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: And it was just a gig, you know? I was
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: just happy to get working. And then that experience... I
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: was going out reading for stuff, and I went and
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: read for Stonzie Stokes, who is the casting director. He
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: put us on tape, and I didn't hear anything. Thought
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: I didn't get the part. Nine months go by. Nine
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: months go by. They call me back for a callback,
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: I thought. So I go in. Nobody's around. Very minimal
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: people at the casting office. That's weird. There's usually more
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: people than this. When I found out when I was
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: there that they had cast me and I was reading
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: for actresses opposite my character. I was reading for actresses
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: for Tina.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: So there was several actresses there and they were, they're
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: reading opposite me, but I had already been cast and
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: that's how I found out. And I'm not sure why
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: my agent didn't tell me or didn't know. And the
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: nine month period between my first audition with Stonzie to
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: my callback was because there was some legal issues with
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: the name yeah that was uh that was the issue.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I mean it was a totally different screenplay early on
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: by the time you got it and this this definitely
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: i have my own personal weird tie into the movie
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: because i came here from louisville so was the was
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: that ending in the original screenplay that you read were
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: they again spoilers for this movie that hopefully by now
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: you've all seen but the the destruction of the city
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: of louisville It's kind of the big finale of the movie,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: or a good portion of it. So, like, yeah, that.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: And I hear there's a rivalry between Lexington and Louisville.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they like to think that.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: They were thrilled when the bomb went off. Some guy
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: told me at the time.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: No, that doesn't surprise me. There's a little... It's usually sports,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: so geeks like us.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Geeks are fine.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: It was under the guise of the sports thing.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: The sports rivalry has been there since birth. But for geeks,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: we all get along. Because, yeah, Scarefest has always been fun. So, yeah,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I enjoy coming to Lexington. But there was such a
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: personal tie-in. And, again, especially watching it growing up, I
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: was just like, that's weird. Because they don't mention my
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: city in most other movies. So, like, that was such
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: a weird. And I ended up doing, I ended up writing, like,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: a whole story for our one of the papers back
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: home that was, like, I titled it Zombies Ate My City.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Because after, and I don't know that you know this,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: but afterwards, like, the entire city, like, slowly, I think
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: it's because so many kids grew up watching it at
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: VHS and cable, like, it became a weird, like, obsession. And, like,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: we became, like, one of the first cities that started
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: doing one of those ridiculous zombie walks that now is huge,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: and they do a huge one in Pittsburgh now and
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: everywhere else, but Louisville was one of the first ones,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: and they started doing zombie proms and all these other
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: weird things that there was such an undercurrent of zombie
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: love for Louisville.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: It's unclear as to why Dan abandoned pick Louisville. I
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: don't have the answer to it. We can't ask him
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: now because he's passed, but Bill Stout, who was the.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Wait, I've talked to Bill. He's the best option we have.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: He might have the answer to that question.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: The only thing I came up with, and again, when
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: I was writing that, I kept trying to do some
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: sort of research, even though Dan was gone. And the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: best I came up with is if you... I think
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: the middle time they released it on DVD, they did
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: a commentary with Dan while he was still around. And
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle of the movie, he goes... And
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I picked Louisville because, you know, it's just kind of
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: a normal city. Like, I think he didn't want it
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: to be.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: There's your answer.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: He didn't want it to be New York. He didn't
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: want it to be L.A. He wanted it to be
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: just an average city, and we were average as you
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: could get. So, yeah, I think.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: That's... I mean, there must have been something, his experience
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: with Louisville, or he passed through it on a road trip, or.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I think he had a connection.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: There has to be something.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: It was also, I think, William Stout had a connection, too.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: So I think it was an inside track.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: Diane O'Bannon might know.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wouldn't it be like a joke of let's kill
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: all our friends in Louisville? Because I think they did
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: have weird connections. But yeah, I think that was sort of.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: Something bad in Louisville didn't happen to Diane O'Bannon, so
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: we didn't want to blow it up.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: We'll show you. Blow up the whole city. So, yeah,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: that was just such an amazing, like, experience from that end.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sure.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: But on your end, I guess, because I was marked
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: that as such a weird dividing point in horror and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: zombie subgenre stuff.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: For good reason, because we had fast-moving zombies.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Fast zombies.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: And we also had one of my favorite scenes in
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: Return of the Living Dead is, you know, the half-corpse
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: where Dawn Kalfa has a conversation with her and her
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: spine's Jumping back and forth and, you know, why do
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: you eat people? Not people.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Brains.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: Such a creepy, great scene.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: But it gave almost a rationale.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Like pain. Yeah.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: Something we could relate to.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: It's kind of amazing. I mean, that is something that
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: it's also got that comedic tone that you really didn't
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: see in a ton of horror movies at the time.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Everyone was super serious.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: It's a dark comedy. Yeah, it's certainly a dark comedy.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: But the comedic tones come out of the situations, not
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: because of anything we're doing.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: As like in part two, they kind of went for
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: the gag.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: It's all comedic, yeah.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: It didn't work, in my opinion. But, yeah, part one,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: that's the genius of it. I mean, you were laughing
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: at the situations, not because of anything that we're doing.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: And specifically with you, I think it's also such great
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: chemistry with our three guys, but especially, like, you and Frank.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: It's such a great.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: Jimmy Caron and myself.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: Well, we have the same birthday. We found out on
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: part two that we have the same birthday, so maybe
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: that had something to.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Do yeah and that was I think what was really
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: interesting too was because it brings in like everything in
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: the 80s was punk rock kids you know everything started
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: getting centered which I thought was always very progressive for
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Louisville we did have actually we had a pretty and
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: it continued on.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: I lived in LA at the time and we had
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: a big uh punk rock.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah i mean yeah la definitely was like influential but
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: like like louisville had this weird underground scene that continued
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: on like all the way through like the mid 90s
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: there were kids putting together like independent productions that are
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: still considered some of the best punk rock music out
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: there so like it did have a weird but i
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: always thought like we would usually get cast as a
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: bunch of hillbillies so the fact that we got to
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: be punk rock kids was also cool growing up i
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: was like oh we got to be the cool kids
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: so that's awesome but the other thing that was really
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: interesting was that dynamic because it's totally different generations i
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: mean you're you're a teenager essentially and like you've got
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: this older guy you don't normally see that pairing together
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: and you guys.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: Worked so well together thank you yeah and you have
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: a good friend.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I will, one of my favorite lines in the whole
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: movie is, you, and it's all delivery as far as
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: I'm concerned. And again, it's the throw-off line, but to me, the,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: like this job.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually came up with that. That wasn't even scripted.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to ask. I was like, where
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: did that come from? Because it's all delivery.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: It was like the most insane, if you like this job,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: like this job.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Like this job.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: Are you in your freaking mind?
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, God, I love that part. So, but yeah, so
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: that's such.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Bert, we have a problem.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: They're intrigued and that's why I think that's such an
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: interesting movie in general is the way that you have
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: to deal with like this can't be happening but you're
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: I mean when the paramedics come it's like this can't
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: be happening but we're sitting here looking at it we're
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: looking at these two guys that are like you know
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: not registering on any of our instruments like it's an
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: interesting little dynamic that again I hadn't really seen in
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: horror at that point so it's I feel like it's
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: super groundbreaking but Yeah.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: And something else I've never seen in horror that I
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: felt in that movie is when the yellow corpse gets
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: out of the ice chest, we let him out. Frank's
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: supposed to hit him over the head. He goes running
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: past and, uh, uh, gets burnt. And then, uh, um,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: we get him down. We cut off his head.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: Now for me, when I'm, as, as I'm watching the
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: movie and I said this today at a panel, um,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: It's so gross, but I'm laughing at the same time.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: So I'm jerking my head back and forth trying to
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: watch it, but laughing at the same time because I
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: can't watch it because it's so gross. We're cutting this
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: guy's head off. And then he freaking gets up and
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: starts running around.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Still running around.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: The dogs and the butterflies.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, the dog. It's disturbing and yet funny as he
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: hits it with the crutch and it's still yuck. It's
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: still rough.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: But I've never felt that in a movie. Just laughing
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: and then like, oh, that's just so disgusting.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Disgusted at the same time. Definitely, yeah.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: So much great stuff in it. Just really so much fun.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I think it didn't get the recognition it deserved at
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: the time, but I think it had such an influence
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: on horror after that. Oh, it did.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, I ask people today, I say, what do
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: zombies eat? And 80% of them will say, well, brains.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: And I go, do you know why you know that?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Where did that come from?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: And they say, no. I said, have you seen Return
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: of the Living Dead? They'll say no.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: And I said, it's because of that movie.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: Big part of Pulp Culture now.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Night of the Living Dead is Night of the Flesh Eaters. Like,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: they were eating guts and all kinds of weird... So
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: it was, yeah, it was.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: That's what the other 20% say. Yeah.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: They're older.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: They don't know what they're talking about. That's what Dan
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: O'Bannon came in. So that's the other one. Like, because
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: now we have no real... We can't really ask him
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: any questions. I guess, what was your take on him
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: as a director? Like, what was it like working with him?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: You know, to me, he was great. I hear that
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: he wasn't kind to other actors, but I think he
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: saw it myself as him in the movie.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: As a young upstart and the through line of the movie,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: I think. So he was very generous to me. Very,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: normally writers will have you stick to their script because
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: they painstakingly, you know, poured over.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: And he was a good writer. It's not like he, yeah.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: But he was very giving and whenever we wanted to,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: bring something up or change something, he would listen to
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: it and we would talk it out.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: And let us improvise whenever we thought it would, you know,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: work and it did and he was very generous that way.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: That's amazing.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: Good for him because that's, to let actors use themselves
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: and make every, the more honest it can be, the
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: better it is, it transcends over to the film.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess it, Again, it's bittersweet because
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: it didn't make the impact you guys wanted, I'm sure,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: at the time. It found its.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: Audience years later.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Or Orion.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: Orion put a lot of money in the prints and
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: ads for that movie.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: And going through the weird legal issues in the early days.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: And so I'm sure they were in the hole on
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: that one. So, yeah, it's such a shame it didn't
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: get the recognition it needed. So I guess that leads
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: you towards still looking for more work, which... right again
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: got into another area this is weird timing because i
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: just met with like one of our uh he was
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: guest on the show recently and he's been listening for
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: years and he was he was specifically one of his
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: favorite episodes was when i sat down with albert pune
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: so then i was looking through i was like you're
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: in all of this so i was like i guess
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: was it right after that you ended up with like
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: was the first time working with him yes how did
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: you meet him i guess uh He's always been there.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure how his radar came. I was just
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: an actor looking for work, and I think the first
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: thing I did for him was Dangerously Close with John
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: Stockwell and Don Michael Paul was in it and a
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: bunch of other people. And just auditioned, and I remember
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: being an early or a young actor, and he had
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: called us in to read, and he was... reading other
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: actors with you know other actors and he kept us
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: there forever for like six seven hours.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: And I.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: Come to find out why he did that he said
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: he did that because he wanted to see how our
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: attitude was if we were there for six or seven hours.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: And He definitely had his own style.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: See if we didn't bolt out the doors. F this,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: I'm taking off. So whoever stuck around and I was
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: one of them got the job.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Nice. But right there it shows how he later would,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: people would have stories about him. That sounds about right.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: So I went on to do like 11 movies with Albert.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: A lot of them were great.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: But he.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: Very generous. I mean, creatively, whatever I would come up with,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: bounce it off him and.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: And was such a relaxed... Again, hearing stories about him.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: Totally relaxed.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Hearing how many projects he'd been throwing off.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: I never saw him raise his voice at all. Not once.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: And I was... Again, he'd done a ton of just
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: sort of fun, schlocky kind of, as far as topic,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: and get into cult movies. But when I sat him down,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, let's talk about a movie. Your influences.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: He talked at great length about 2001. And I.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: How much he was influenced by that and how like the,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: just like the artistry behind it. And I'm just like,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: this is why I love talking about this stuff. Cause these,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, these guys all draw from the same love
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: of film, love of the arts. And I'm like, no
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: matter if you're making driving movies or not, like he
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: was such a really great, like committed, you know, he was,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: and the.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: Things that he, he filmed and wrote about were totally
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: opposite of who he was as a person, which was,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: Just another fun fact about Albert. He's just such a
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: mellow guy. It's from Hawaii.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: Could have been a surfer. I don't know. Definitely could
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: have been smoking weed. I don't think so, but he
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: was just that kind of laid back. Not to say
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: that he ever smoked weed that I ever saw.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: He was very laid back, though. I'll give him that.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. So that kind of vibe. Like I said,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: I never saw him ever. raise his voice. And there
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: was a lot to raise his voice about, I think
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: back in the day, trying to get stuff done.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Listening to that story. I think he just had
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: his own style and his own approach towards things. And
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: he wanted it done that way for, again, he had reasons,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: even if no one else understood them.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I remember, I remember being cast in a
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: blood match and, uh, I was, I was negotiating with
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: the production office and, It's the first day of shooting.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: My deal hadn't been signed yet. I picked up Benny
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: Ukides because we lived close by, I found out. Benny's amazing.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: I'm driving him up. We're going to the set. It's
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: about an hour and a half drive outside of L.A.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: and my agent calls and says something didn't happen, so
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: I call the production office, and I am freaking screaming.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: This is how it's going to be. I'm on the phone.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: I'm taking Benny Uke. I'm driving him up there right now. Now,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: you motherfuckers, if you don't get this done, boom, I
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: want this amount, and make it happen. I hang up
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: the phone, and Benny looks over to me and goes, wow,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: that was great, and then I got the call, Half
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: an hour before we were supposed to show up from
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: my agent. Yeah, it cleared the bank.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: You became a producer.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: You made sure this got done. Well, again, just because
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: you brought it up, I was definitely headed that way.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: How early on did you get involved in martial arts?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Because you're definitely like, not only are you the lead
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: by the time you get to that film, but you're
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: fighting against some of the greatest.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: Kickboxers in the world. There was one guy, his nickname
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: was Bear Bear. 6'5. Were you prepared for that? He
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: was a monster. I got a great still where I'd
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: give him a rich hand. That's where your hand's flat
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: and you hit him in the throat.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: Right in the throat. And he's like parallel on the mat.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, it's a great shot. It's a great still.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: I learned martial arts so I could kick the shit
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: out of my older brother.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: That is a good reason.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: Because he was very mean to me, I felt, growing up. But,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: you know, I never did.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: Did it work? Did you eventually get to?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: No, I never did.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Is it too late?
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 7: Can you do it now?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: I could. But that's why I studied.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: So you at least.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: So I was very flexible.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Came in with a little.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: Trust me, any one of those guys I worked with
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: could have kicked my ass.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: No, no, you were the star. Yeah, even the girl. Yeah, well,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: that's usually how that goes. But, yeah, that's definitely getting
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: into a whole. Because then you come back for, like,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: the Kickboxer 4. So, like, it was its own. It
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: was such a huge subgenre then. Yeah.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: Had a great death in Kickboxer 4. The knife in
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: the head. Oh, there's a funny story about that. He
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: throws the knife in the head. And I fall out
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: of frame. Just a dead man drop. Because I'm trying
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: to grab it as I'm going down. Missing it, of course.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: I was going to pull it out of my head,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: I guess. is what I was thinking.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Just don't land on it.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: So we rehearsed it a couple times. They put a
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: mattress down. So when we actually went to go shoot it,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: I went grabbing at it, and I fell back. Dead
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: man drop. I missed the mattress. And I hear all
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: this stunt guy goes, ooh.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're impressing stuntmen with your injuries, that's impressive.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: I hurt myself. I felt that the next day it
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: was like moving up my spine. I did have a little,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: It's Albert's fault. We're blaming him.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: Should have been the stunt guy that just had somebody
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: on the mattress. But that was a fun movie.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Well, we did skip over. I had to at least
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: work in, I mean, for so many fans. And this
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: is one of the ones I wanted to get into.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, Friday the 13th is just one of the quintessential,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: like the most like ridiculously... enduring series and and there's
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: really i mean there's almost no other characters outside of
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: jason that continue on except tommy so the fact that
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: you got to play one of the tommy's like in
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: yeah as the most grown-up of tommy's i mean again
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: how much did you know about that series going into
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: it and that role.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: I knew absolutely nothing about it and i got the
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: part and then i went and looked at part five
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: and i was very different i was scared yeah i
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: I was terrified.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: Five is a weird turn anyway. You'd be better off
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: with four, maybe.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I was trying to see. I was looking
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: at Tommy Jarvis to see if I could pick up
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: any mannerisms or anything that I should carry over into
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: part six.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to get Corey Feldman mannerisms. Nobody
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: wants that.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: Well, he was a younger kid. And John was, you know,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: more closer to my age at the time.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: And so I was like, oh, my God, what have
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: I gotten myself into? And then I met Tom. Uh,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: and we talked, talked it out and stuff. So, and
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: his vision was, you know, there was no wet t-shirt
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: contest in his.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: It is definitely a lot more serious take on it.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: And how it was filmed. I mean, uh, the cinematography was,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: was great and the story was great and, you know, the, the,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: had character development.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. More than a lot of even in the others
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: in that series.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: Much, much more. And they should have continued that theme
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: going throughout the series, in my opinion.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, Seven takes his own weird turn, but
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: it would have been nice to kind of see what
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: else we could do. Yeah. And write him into.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: Because you had somebody to root for finally.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: As opposed to just watching somebody get sliced up.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: And and an odd again because i guess you had
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: that weird tie-in to him from the earlier films but
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: you know there's hardly ever a final guy so to
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: have it was such a different turn even for 80s
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: slasher kind of stuff it was it was an odd
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: and interesting way to take it like i yeah the
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: other thing i'm and this is just an ongoing because
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: you know we're here at a core convention people are
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: so committed to that jason character You've been immersed in
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: it ever since then. Like, what is it?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: Well, Kane, Hodder was in 7, 8, 9, 10. Yeah.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: He gave me a nice compliment. He goes, whenever they
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: think of Jason, they also think of Tommy Jarvis now
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: because of you. I said, well, thank you.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: That's the only other. Again, you don't think of any
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: of those other kids from the earlier movies. And the
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: last couple, nobody even remembers any of them. So, yeah,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: they're all just faceless victims. And Tommy's, you know, the
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: through line. Yeah. But I'm just trying to figure out
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: what's so enduring about the Jason character, like in horror,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: because it's such a go-to for everybody that's a horror fan.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: And I've yet to feel like... You're right.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: He's kind of the springboard of everything.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: Else, right?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: And like the token. Like if you're going to come
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: here and put a t-shirt on, you'll slap on a
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Jason t-shirt. And it's like, it's the most generic version,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: but the fans are so.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: Dedicated to it. It's crazy. The fans are so dedicated
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: to it. The horror fans are just... dedicated fans period
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: yeah i mean it's just really intense.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: I mean you've been in a lot of other non-horror
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: stuff but has that been like the the most love
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: that you've had as.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: Far as fan base absolutely well uh uh venny gustafaro
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: who was in uh part six he played the sheriff
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: yeah he's been in some heavy duty films in his
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: in his career and he says the horror fans are
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: just like The best, to just go out of the
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: way from, I mean, this is not just in the state,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: this is from all over the world. I mean, I
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: get fan mail from, and people reaching out to me
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: on Facebook from Brazil and Germany and Iceland, and it's
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: just all over.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: It touches a nerve in a weird way.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: It is and they don't know each other yeah which
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: is the weird thing well even people.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: With like huge resumes i mean you're next to kluger
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: out there like going back to like how early on
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: he's in his westerns and like but still like so
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: many fans like that's the go-to like they're still like
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Return of the Living Dead is still like the first
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: thing that they think of for him, even though he's
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: been in so much stuff over the years. So, yeah,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: it's just kind of amazing that the horror fan base
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: is like.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: He's got that cameo, too, that just came out in
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: Quentin's movie.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: So, but yeah.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: Well, he's the guy. He actually, that was his life.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: Quentin's movie about the two cowboys was Clue's life.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: So, nod to him.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: He's a fascinating guy. Well, then, I mean, you mentioned, too,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: that's the only other one I definitely like. How did
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: it come about that you ended up in the second
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: Return of the Living Dead?
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: As different characters, mind you. I'll tell you.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: Give me a second. It came about because they had
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: the script for part two, and the producers were shopping around.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: So how you get money... To make your movie is
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: you sell the rights to the distributors overseas.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, overseas is where most of the money comes in.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: So when they were doing that, Return 1 was a big,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: huge hit in Japan. So the distributors said, yes, we'll
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: give you some money, a bunch of money to make
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: Part 2 if we get the rights to distribute it.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: But you have to have Jimmy Caron and Tom Matthews
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: come back in some capacity. And they go, oh, okay.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a little hard, kind of.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: That's how we came back.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: It's almost like, again, it makes sense that it came
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: from needing to get funding, weird overseas fan base. Because, yeah,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: it would just confuse most viewers, I would think. And
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: probably did. But now it's just sort of a weird
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: inside joke. But it's a strange move on their part.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: So I just wondered how it came together.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: That's how it came about. And again, young actor, I
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: was happy just to be working.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Another paycheck, we'll take. Exactly. Do you have any stuff?
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: I know you're still kind of active in that and
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: in your original job as well. So do you have
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: stuff you want to tell people?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: I have, yeah. I have, funny enough, next week, I
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: shot two movies last year. One was called Killer Therapy
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: and I shot them back to back. I actually had
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: to turn down the second one because it was a conflict.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: But then they pushed the schedule to accommodate my schedule,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: so I did Killer Therapy, which is co-written and directed
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: by Barry Jay, who was the executive producer on Never
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: Hike Alone.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: That's more of a horror-based film, and that'll be out
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: next month, October 16th, is when we're having the premiere
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: in L.A., But next week, the movie I did after
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: that called Warpath, which is a Western, takes place in 1890.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: We're having a screening, the worldwide premiere in Detroit because
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: that's where we shot it next week. And then I've
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: got another movie I'm starting in the first week of
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: November called Staying Free. And my character is a guy
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: who goes up and cleans up after crime scenes. Bloody...
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: gruesome get rid of the bodies yeah get rid of
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: the blood that is a job anyone there is check
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: it out on youtube there's people who actually do that
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: for the police and it's not the police who call
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: them in it's the family members i found out yeah.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: They just leave you with the mess essentially they take
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: the body and leave you with the mess yeah it's
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: not exactly it's not a fun situation to be in
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: i assume so i guess you need a professional to
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: come in and Do you want people to find you
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: online or to find out details?
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: I've got a fan page on Facebook.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So just follow you there.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: They can follow me there.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Sounds good.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: You can post everything, whatever's going on with me, whatever
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: convention I'm at or a month before I'm going to
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: be there and ask people to stop by if they're around.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Definitely come by and tell you hello and come get
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: some photos.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: Perfect.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, thank you for being with us, man.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: That's been great.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: My pleasure. Talk to you soon.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: I like the third one zombies ate my city i
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: did a ridiculous amount of research.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: But they weren't even really here were.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: They no but the effect that that movie had on
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: a city that it didn't take place i mean the
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: yeah it wasn't shot in but like the story took
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: place in and every kid sitting in that city went
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: wait did they just say what what like it blew
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: everyone's minds collectively in one town The day it hit
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: cable because nobody saw the theater, essentially. But yeah, I
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: don't think we were ever the same. So that was
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: my whole study as I wrote my my think piece
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: was like the effect that it had, like how exactly
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: it happened. And then the years and years of continual
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: effects that it had on these kids growing up in
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: this town that had been completely obliterated by zombies.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: Did you ask him if he was ever actually been
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: to Louisville, Kentucky?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: He was near it today.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: Is today the closest he's ever been?
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: Probably.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 8: See, I always thought it actually took place in Louisville
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 8: for the longest time before the internet.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: Everybody was like, it happened at Cave Hill Cemetery.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: Everybody thinks that.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 8: And we'd run around Cave Hill and try to figure
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 8: out where in Cave Hill. And then somebody finally was like, no, it.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: Didn't happen in Cave Hill.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Because he was still alive.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: You know, you're full of crap.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: It did too. Yeah.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: You turn left at the magician and then.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: And the witch's headstone.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: These are all real places. If you want to come
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: down to Cave Hill Cemetery, it is pretty cool and creepy.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 8: Isn't the witch's headstone behind the.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: It's not actually in the cemetery. It's like behind... It's
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: not like in the actual part of it anymore, I
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: don't think.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they put it back in the back somewhere. And
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: now that I think about it, we've also recorded at
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Cave Hill Cemetery, so go check out the previous episode.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: We weren't there. So don't bother. That's your fault.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, we weren't there for the podcast.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: I was trying to think of that. Never.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 7: Who was there? I know I was supposed to be there,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 7: but then there was like a crazy windstorm that kept
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 7: me from being there.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: Are you sure it wasn't zombies? Exactly.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 7: You have a lot of crazy natural disasters that come
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 7: after you. Yeah.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. So thank you to Tom for sitting
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: down and talking with me and he had some cool stories.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, go support him. Go find him at
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Whatever convention he's at and go say hi. And you
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: heard him on Movie Meltdown and then go buy some photos.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: So support him in his future efforts. Watch your tongue, boy,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: if you like this job.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 9: Like this job.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: Well, if nothing else, also thank you to Scarefest for
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: letting us come be part of the show. Once again,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: these many, many years were always kind of there hanging
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: out at Scarefest.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 7: It's always a delight.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: It's very fun.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 7: It's a very well-run festival.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: They know what they're doing. They know their target audience.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: They kind of stick with it, and they've figured out
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: the best way to put these things together. So, yep,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: it's always well run. So, to find out what's going
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: on for next time, go to thescarefest.com, and you can
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: be part of all of this craziness.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: I just have one request at Scarefest. I would bring
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: back Josh Gates, because when they brought him here years ago,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't care about his show. But now that I
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: love his show, they need to bring Josh Gates back.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: Again, it's all about you. It is always. Everything revolves
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: around me. I understand. What is the show?
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 8: He has two different- In Search Of and Destination- He
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 8: does not do In Search Of.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: Oh, wait, no.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: Duh.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 8: I mean, Destination Truth and Expedition Unknown.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: And he goes to different- He travels to different places
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: where they have creepy things or- mysterious things and tries
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: to figure out what's going on. Or if there's hidden treasure,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: he wants to find it and it's always beer cans.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: I thought that they're digging and it's a beer can.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: Or it's a nail.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: Did he ever open Al Cabone's vault? Probably. That went
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: about that same way.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Beer cans. But he's always so hopeful.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 6: I've already talked to him about what I need to
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 6: talk to him about.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: Are they beer cans from Lee Major's garage?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: Let's not go down that road. We told that story
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: a few times today. If you guys need that, write in.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: We can do a fancy Lee Major's episode. No, it'll
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: just be a Richie episode.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: He did that episode.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: If you're old school, you've heard the Richie episode.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: We already did a Richie episode. He was on the
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: show before.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 8: I know, but you should totally bring Richie back for
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 8: an episode. Oh, he just met Quentin Tarantino.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a restraining order now, isn't there?
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 8: Probably. He just got back from California, so he got
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 8: to see all of his old buddies and probably caused
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 8: a lot of problems.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: Richie is a very special individual.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: He is.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: But for a potential future episode, so anything else to
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: pass along?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Don't half-ass your outfits. If you're going to go, go
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: all out.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: Words to live by, people.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: Although I do understand sensible shoes.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: In your everyday life. But if you're going to bother
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: to have a costume, just go ahead and lean into it.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: Do it right.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: Don't wear a gladiator costume and Crocs.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: It's just going to look stupid, which we've witnessed before.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: That's not a random made up when I've heard you
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: complain about that specific combination in the past.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: And socks and sandals are never okay. No matter what
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: you're wearing.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: I threatened to disown someone the other day for socks
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  Speaker 1: and sandals.
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  Speaker 2: It's for the best.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it was, it was a right call
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  Speaker 1: to make tough love. I mean, you gotta, Gotta hold
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: fast to that.
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  Speaker 6: I do it every once in a while just to
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: piss her off.
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  Speaker 2: No, you wear flip-flops and socks.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 6: Flip-flops and socks.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: You like ninja foot that shit.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I do. On that note, we should make
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: like ninjas and silently get out of here. Otherwise, that
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: about does it. We will return next time. Same geek feed.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: The night was dark and gloomy, and tombstones flipped the lens.
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  Speaker 4: And I jumped as daddy bird with a lily on
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: his end.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 8: He said, hey, ho, ho, now, who has stood my bed?
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: Who's this crazy wise guy that said rock and roll
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: was dead?
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: What a zombie, what a zombie, what a zombie.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, skeletons, they jumped out, and the line got two
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: by two. And then they started strolling to the.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: Sand, loopy blue.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: The heart began to rock, said Tequila, the leader. Take
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: me to this.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: Cat they call the Purple People Eater.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: What is on me?
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: What is on me? The earth began to tremble.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Pink guitars made the sound.
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  Speaker 8: Ranchi Man and Rembrandt, they were.
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  Speaker 4: Rockin' all around.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 5: A tombstone of a cat, written as it read.
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  Speaker 9: Dig me now, you crazy ones, cause rock and roll
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 9: ain't dead.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: Wobbles on me, wobbles on me, wobbles on me.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: We even had a tie-in that you didn't get to experience.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: Is this back to the Naughty Box? Wait a minute,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: what are we talking about here?
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: Apparently he was in the Rock Hudson movie.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: Allegedly.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not going down that road.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we're not going down that road, but Rock Hudson
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 7: came up because Lee Majors came up, so just Google it,
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  Speaker 7: that's all.
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  Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with this. I'm staying out
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: of this.
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• 1:32:02
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