Latest / The Art of Costume Podcast / The White Lotus with Costume Designer, Alex Bovaird
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- 0:12Supposed to be like a four season.
- 0:14So there's supposed to be somewhat formal that you're in
- 0:17Hawaii. So there's the relax, relax
- 0:20linen. And you know, I remember when I
- 0:23first went to Hawaii, I couldn't believe that all the guys were
- 0:26wearing aloha shirts. Really they really wear Hawaiian
- 0:31shirts. That's a real thing.
- 0:43Hello and welcome to the art of costume.
- 0:44Blogcast it is I lowered Spencer Williams.
- 0:52I could say that because Elizabeth is not joining us
- 0:55today so I could call myself Lord.
- 0:57If I want to this week, sorry Elizabeth.
- 1:00I'm sure she's listening right now.
- 1:01And she's pounding, her fists together ready to fight next
- 1:04time we speak. So yeah, it's just me this week
- 1:08but we have a An incredible episode this week you are going
- 1:12to love it. We are talking about the White
- 1:14Lotus. My new favorite show.
- 1:17I know the show is not very new but I'm new to the world.
- 1:21I just watched it for some reason last week, so I know I'm
- 1:25really behind but the costumes were so good.
- 1:28I was dying of laughter this entire show also.
- 1:31So anxious spacing around my bedroom, as I was watching it,
- 1:35we have Jennifer Coolidge. Who just delivered some Solid
- 1:40lines Sydney, Sweeney looking so good.
- 1:44Our mind in those pink linen suits looking a little bit of a
- 1:49mess. There's a lot to talk about
- 1:51here, but before we dive into it I'll give you a little summary
- 1:56before we dive behind the Wardrobe.
- 1:58So the White Lotus is about the exploits, a various guests and
- 2:01employees at a tropical resort over the span of a week.
- 2:06So now it's time to dive behind a wardrobe.
- 2:09This was brought to us by director Mike White and costume
- 2:13designer. Alex bovard, you have no Alex
- 2:16from her work on bad education, the unforgivable, The Spy Who
- 2:20dumped me. Sorry for your loss, The
- 2:23Foreigner and the brand new, Jordan Peele film.
- 2:26Nope. Which you have to see is so good
- 2:31and I'm so excited, the show was nominated for a million and two
- 2:35Emmys, and one of them being for costume design.
- 2:39So, I knew immediately I had to talk to Alex about these
- 2:42costumes everyone. I'm so happy to introduce Alex
- 2:47bovard, Alex, welcome to the studio, thank you, Spencer,
- 2:52thanks for having me here, but surely, it's really nice to meet
- 2:56you as, well, all the way from Iceland to its is crazy.
- 3:00In the rare sunny day here in Reykjavik, I love that.
- 3:06So when I was getting ready actually for this interview, You
- 3:09I was watching The White Lotus and I was like, I really want to
- 3:13talk to the costume designer from the White Lotus as I was
- 3:17doing that. I was on the way to the movies
- 3:19to go. See.
- 3:20Nope. And I got an email actually and
- 3:23they're like, hey, do you want to talk to the costume designer
- 3:25for White Lotus? And nope.
- 3:27It was the craziest coincidence. So, wow.
- 3:30So excited when you called me and I'm the one today, right?
- 3:35I just put into the universe first, congratulations.
- 3:39Relations on the Emmy nomination.
- 3:41How does that feel? Oh, thanks.
- 3:43Spencer is pretty cool. I think it's pretty cool.
- 3:49I found out in the morning and my husband and I were like
- 3:52looking online for life. Wait, because somebody called me
- 3:56and congratulated me and we looked online.
- 3:58We were like, wait, does this really mean we've been
- 4:01nominated? Like, what?
- 4:03What does this mean? Like, how do we know this is
- 4:05real? Huh?
- 4:06It was so it is a bit. It is.
- 4:09Is a bit strange. But really, really nice.
- 4:12And really, I'm really happy for the people in my team.
- 4:16Who contributed so strongly, to this very special project in
- 4:20Hawaii. So yeah, happy for everybody,
- 4:23right. It must feel like such a surreal
- 4:25moment and it's such a packed category.
- 4:27This year. There's some really amazing
- 4:29shows this year so that must feel good to ya.
- 4:32TV is just like it's like open open season for the last few
- 4:37years, there's so many good television show.
- 4:39Is because of the, you know, it's streaming Wars and, you
- 4:44know, the battle for attention. And then I feel feel that as an
- 4:49audience, we just have been gulping up television shows they
- 4:53dropped and we consume them. And then another one.
- 4:59Yes, I'm guilty of this. I've constantly need to be fed.
- 5:02Well, we would just show up, you know, every Monday and watch one
- 5:06episode. And now we're ready for more
- 5:08after You know week or so we're ready for the next one.
- 5:12So yeah it does does it is a full full deck out there, right?
- 5:19Well, I'm so excited to dive into the White Lotus.
- 5:22This is one of those shows that you just knew you were going to
- 5:25love. So I'll admit I was like to
- 5:27watch it because I just knew I was like I'm gonna love this
- 5:29show. I have to get through these
- 5:31other shows and I came back to it and it was so worth the wait.
- 5:34I don't know why I made myself. Wait it's so beautiful and
- 5:39colorful. And somehow joyous, but also
- 5:41like non-stop anxiety. I'm like, pacing around my
- 5:44bedroom when I'm watching it, but you're like the costumes are
- 5:47just so beautiful. Oh, it's like a real crazy
- 5:50thing. So I first just want to dive
- 5:52into just Inspirations for the White Lotus.
- 5:56You know the characters come off as very rich very vacationy,
- 6:01lots of florals. How did you start with this
- 6:03where you just walking around hotels and just taking pictures
- 6:07of people? That would have been great?
- 6:09Great. But sadly, no was not sent on
- 6:14that that research trip, but it's, yeah, I thought funny, you
- 6:18say that about why Lotus? Because I just did season 2 and
- 6:22Mike described it as like a fever dream.
- 6:25Like how do you approach it as like?
- 6:29Yes. It's, you know, he's got stuff
- 6:31to say but he's kind he's mostly here to entertain and a and part
- 6:36of that is we talked about it, with White Lotus.
- 6:39Season 1 as well. Just this creating this, this
- 6:43experience that you just really enjoying watching and, you know,
- 6:48really getting into the characters, but also just having
- 6:51this, you know, fun fun palette to work with, and to inspire you
- 6:58and to Aspire to. And we definitely did our
- 7:03research but not not in real life, but through Lots, you
- 7:07know, really engaging with that. At World of like wealthy,
- 7:11vacationers and seeing seeing what they actually were and
- 7:14trying to base it in reality and then and then heighten it a bit
- 7:19because you know, sometimes people just go on holiday and
- 7:21that sweatpants and we definitely don't want to do
- 7:26that. We wanted to up the ante and say
- 7:29that we like the idea that when you go on holiday, when you go
- 7:33on vacation, you are somewhat, putting on a little bit of a
- 7:37show. You're imagining.
- 7:39How? Want to be when you're on
- 7:40holiday. So there's a slight element of
- 7:43costuming yourself that we tried to put put in there.
- 7:47Like, who am I on holiday and what am I going to pack?
- 7:49Right, that's so fascinating. Yeah, it's kind of fun approach
- 7:53and also just wanted to we Rift a lot on the colors of Hawaii,
- 7:59and the fruits and the flowers. And so there's, you know, mango
- 8:04and Lai Chi and, you know, the blue of the ocean.
- 8:09And you know pineapple and lots and lots of floral prints, lots
- 8:15of lots of vibrant colors and just trade to you know go at go
- 8:21all out tropical assault right? Lots of pineapple.
- 8:26Yeah I was really taken back by it, just all the prints and the
- 8:31colors. I've especially the prince, it
- 8:34was like everything you're throwing at us, I was obsessed
- 8:36with and the Fabrics. You have a Credible used to
- 8:40Fabrics. Can we just dive into all these
- 8:42patterns and fabrics? Yeah, well, we did.
- 8:47Luckily people can argue against it too much.
- 8:50Might, you know, as a costume designer.
- 8:52Well my my appetite for Prince knows, no bounds.
- 8:56You know, prints and textures - try to paint with a with with a
- 9:03paint, the canvas with lots and lots of different textures and
- 9:06Princess always something that excites me.
- 9:09And I couldn't really no one could really argue that they
- 9:12should wear black or gray or, you know, getting any Kickback
- 9:18from anybody and my quite the direct to wanted to go there.
- 9:23So he wanted to have a lot of fun and really I credit him with
- 9:28leaving me alone, which is just as nice.
- 9:32But yeah. I mean he would he always wanted
- 9:34to see what we were doing but he didn't he And he kind of let me
- 9:42he trusted me that I knew what everybody else is wearing so he
- 9:45didn't micromanage me to the point where, you know, he knew
- 9:49that I had to keep a lot of things in mind.
- 9:51So he didn't question question it.
- 9:54And trusted that I was thinking of the entire cast when I was
- 9:58showing him certain things. And yeah, we wanted a richness
- 10:02and a and a diversity in the in the animals and the flowers and
- 10:07kind of just went for it and it and it entwined with the
- 10:10production design as well. We met and talked about the
- 10:15wallpapers and and and it's funny.
- 10:18They ended up using a lot of the stuff in the opening credits to.
- 10:23So oh yeah. So I know it was a big theme
- 10:27that the prince really just took over the whole show.
- 10:30Yeah, and also was like most striking to me out of anything
- 10:34is the the color palette? So you use because it's such a
- 10:38beautifully. Shot so cinematically and the
- 10:43costumes, just really stand out at all all the time.
- 10:47And sometimes I feel like it really speaks to the different
- 10:49characters moods as well. So I was wondering how much of
- 10:53that was intentional when you're picking colors?
- 10:55Yeah, we did. We went for a, you know, cheery
- 10:58Vibe overall and then it was underscored with that like
- 11:02creepy music. So it just helped do that, you
- 11:05know, juxtaposing with the different with the different.
- 11:09Mom's we did I know that we purposefully let Paula be more
- 11:15Moody as the as the as the to kind of diverge.
- 11:19So her color palette started to get more, you know, she gets,
- 11:24she starts to wear black and not trying so hard.
- 11:28And so her mood darkens and her clothes, due to the uniforms,
- 11:34were devised with the, with the colors to we went for, like
- 11:38light, she E and an ocean blue, and aqua and mango orange.
- 11:45So we tried to keep them tropical beach, she tropical,
- 11:51but also formal kind of, you know, supposed to be like a four
- 11:56season. So there's supposed to be
- 11:58somewhat formal but then you're in Hawaii.
- 12:00So there's the relax, relax linen.
- 12:04And you know I remember when I first went to Hawaii, I couldn't
- 12:07believe that all the guys were wearing Aloha shirts, only they
- 12:13really were Hawaiian shirts. That's a real thing actually
- 12:17happens. They, there's one of my
- 12:20customers who is working with me said that there's a term, like
- 12:23they call it, like, when they're dressing people that I coach,
- 12:26they should look Hawaiian business.
- 12:28And that means they're wearing an Aloha shirt and a pair of
- 12:31slacks. All right?
- 12:33Okay, so move here, honestly, to Hawaii, you need to get yourself
- 12:39on a plane. And it's really a magical place.
- 12:41And the fact that people do walk around in these aloha shirts
- 12:46these Hawaiian shirts is is really part of the just
- 12:51laid-back sort of Aloha, this like casual magical Spirit.
- 12:56That's there. But so we had to put that in the
- 12:59uniforms because, you know, people really do.
- 13:02That's really part of dressing up.
- 13:05In a button shirt is you would you would wear your Aloha shirt.
- 13:10Well, speaking of the Aloha shirt Armand, really is the
- 13:15spitting image of what you're talking about except though,
- 13:18sometimes he's very dressed up. I love this character.
- 13:22I thought his costumes are actually some of the most
- 13:24fascinating in a series, which is saying a lot because there's
- 13:27a lot of kooky characters out there.
- 13:31I love what you did a farm on, because I mean, maybe cuz I'm
- 13:34just a costume designer nerd, but he's clearly wearing linen.
- 13:39And it's getting more and more wrinkled throughout the series.
- 13:42He's really kind of unraveling a little bit.
- 13:45And then we have that finale, where he wears my favorite
- 13:48costume. I think it's this getting
- 13:51discovered. That's really fun button up
- 13:53shirt. And it's kind of faded actually
- 13:56a little bit, which is the kind of, you know, he's at the end of
- 13:59his life. He doesn't know that yet.
- 14:02So, there's just a lot happening if his costume.
- 14:04Can we dive into it? Yes.
- 14:06Oh yeah. Let's we can talk about his
- 14:08death. Sure.
- 14:09That spoiler if anyone hasn't seen my folks, we have a spoiler
- 14:14at the beginning. So we're past that me we killed
- 14:18all moaned in that crazy shirt that he so he spends the whole
- 14:22episode in this in this outfit. So sometimes he has the linen
- 14:26jacket on top and then at other times he you know through the
- 14:30day he's got the jacket off but he dies in the shirt and so we
- 14:35wanted it to go. We wanted to go out with a bang.
- 14:40This is like a it's it's based on like a vintage Hawaiian shirt
- 14:46so that's why it looks a little more.
- 14:49You were faded, is that it sort of got this vintage you feel
- 14:53like company called reyn Spooner who are Hawaiian and they
- 14:57specialize in these vintage prints, and it's just got this
- 15:00crazy sea snake. I think that and blue coral, and
- 15:08it's just sort of batshit, and of We had to get a lot of them
- 15:13and to try and copy the trouble is if you want to kill someone
- 15:18off in a printed outfit is it's very difficult to match the
- 15:23prints. And so we had to get a lot of
- 15:27these shirts and try and line up the sea snakes and exactly the
- 15:30same spot. Oh yeah, that's the way
- 15:33manufactured. Like the C-SPAN could be all
- 15:36over the place. So Mike Annex of filming, make
- 15:41it very tricky, unless you have an identical shirt.
- 15:43So we spent a lot of time poring over that shirt and making sure
- 15:48they had given us a way to pick the craziest shirt for the
- 15:51dusting. Really push for it because it's
- 15:54really complicated to do print like that.
- 15:57But yeah, I love that shirt. You and I'm glad we went for it
- 16:01and I'm lucky that my quite loves pink.
- 16:04Because yeah my it's my favorite color right?
- 16:08I was very happy about that. Two.
- 16:10And then his linen suits are just so attractive.
- 16:13But again, I love how you like let it get wrinkled up though.
- 16:16That that's a cool note. It gets annihilated because you
- 16:20know, the last couple episodes he is, you know, it's really
- 16:23deteriorating and he's up all night doing drugs, you know?
- 16:28So it's important that his sweats into his linen suit and
- 16:32then it starts to look kind of ragged so that you can really
- 16:37see The Descent. Integration of his mind.
- 16:41Also in the disintegration of his clothes and linens are great
- 16:44fabric for that because it wrinkles up nice and easy.
- 16:47Yeah, it was so fun to see. Let's get into our vacationing
- 16:53families, a little bit. First we have the Moss
- 16:56baugher's, Nicole and Mark who are just the epitome of Rich
- 17:02Elegance. I would say Connie Britton is
- 17:05amazing. Then we also have the kids, we
- 17:08have Officials say kids during college Quinn, Olivia and Paula,
- 17:15they all have such unique wardrobes.
- 17:17See each of these characters, it's really fascinating.
- 17:21What can you tell me about the Moss Bonkers?
- 17:24Well, you know, Connie, Connie plays, Nicole mosbacher and she
- 17:30is, you know, the CFO of a company that's similar to goop.
- 17:39That's What I was gonna say to that, we, you know, there's a
- 17:43little bit of Gwyneth Paltrow in her but also, you know her she's
- 17:47not she's she, you know, nobody gets away with a muted palette
- 17:52on the White Lotus so she, you know, gets the colorful outfits
- 17:57as well. But she, she's someone who kind
- 17:59of knows exactly how to dress and, you know, has the right the
- 18:03right fabrics for Hawaii, the, you know, the the breathable
- 18:08Cotton's and I will wear silk at night and we always thread
- 18:13vintage into the clothes. You know, this was shot at the
- 18:17beginning of the pandemic, and so, there wasn't a lot of shops
- 18:22open. And also, there weren't many,
- 18:25like new clothes, because factories hadn't, been making
- 18:28them. So I definitely went far and
- 18:31wide to pull the costumes together and used a lot of
- 18:36second-hand and vintage and things like that to make it too.
- 18:39To, you know, to get an assembly of different different outfits.
- 18:43And she likes her hats and going to say the hair game is strong
- 18:47with her really game. I'm really I was really lucky
- 18:53with the cast of White Lotus. They were really, you know,
- 18:57willing to go there for the characters and really got into
- 19:00the Hawaii of it all and didn't didn't bump against it and she
- 19:04has, you know, great hats and sunglasses and she has several
- 19:09Eggs, just tote bags for her for her laptop because she's, you
- 19:14know, never far away from work. Yeah.
- 19:16And the kids are the kids, the queen is kind of a Stoner, you
- 19:26know, he's still in high school. He's got this, you know, he
- 19:30shops at Zumiez, you like some tie-dye strange t-shirts and he
- 19:38spends all Episode in his underwear, he is, and then, he
- 19:43sort of has this enlightened moment where he goes kayaking
- 19:48with the locals. So, he gets his Mojo and but you
- 19:52know, he doesn't really change up.
- 19:54What is what is brought because you just packed it but he, he
- 19:58dresses up for dinner a little bit because you know, his mom
- 20:01would expect him to everybody. We kind of took a little
- 20:05license. To we say that everybody gets
- 20:07changed for dinner, you know. It was happen when you're on
- 20:10holiday but and then the girls that, you know, they're very
- 20:14self-assured gen Z. They do a lot of drifting,
- 20:21they're a little eco-conscious. So, a lot of their clothes, I
- 20:26thrifted, they kind of issue fast fashion, you know, but they
- 20:33are typical of the type of girls that they are.
- 20:37They really into A branding, but they're very, they're very at
- 20:43the same time aware of what they're wearing and try to, you
- 20:47know, very carefully, put their outfits together so that they
- 20:51seem just thrown thrown together but everything's very well
- 20:54thought of. And also they get painted with
- 20:57color. Of course, oh yeah.
- 21:01II love these two characters. Brittany O'Grady and Sydney
- 21:05Sweeney the HBO Queen. They both killed these roles so
- 21:08much I can do. Ra costume.
- 21:10They were, I was like yeah, that's so good.
- 21:11Just seeing the read at the pool.
- 21:13It's like a treat. I remember seeing that scene in
- 21:16the dailies and seeing how good that actresses were because
- 21:20sometimes when you watch dailies, it's a bit dry.
- 21:23So you can't really get, you know, you can't really get it.
- 21:27But when the performances of that good, you can instantly see
- 21:30I you know, because I've done the fittings with them and I was
- 21:33really Stag and I thought well this is a great actresses.
- 21:36Are you? There were going to be okay.
- 21:39A so we have to talk about the patents who I'm like, I don't
- 21:43want to talk about these characters.
- 21:44That give me so much anxiety, but Shane in the Cornell hat is
- 21:49one of my favorite notes from the show to.
- 21:52It says so much about the character without saying
- 21:55anything at all, we have to dive into this into the newlyweds.
- 21:59Yep. They I love the Cornell had to
- 22:02was we talked a lot about what college it should be and we
- 22:08settled on Cornell. And, you know, he's just that
- 22:10kind of kind of bro. Who, who would do that we did?
- 22:15We wanted to make sure that well, Jake Lacy.
- 22:19Actually, he has a lot to say about clothes and he wanted to
- 22:24make sure that he sort of looked good as well as, you know, he's
- 22:29like the Vineyard Vines died, but he felt like the, you know,
- 22:34the fits should be good and that we did more alterations on on.
- 22:39On Shane than anybody else. I think like we wanted to make
- 22:42sure shorts fit, just right, like not too short, not too
- 22:46long, he's very tailored, he's conscious about what he's
- 22:49wearing, he's very tailored, he's like a little bit, you
- 22:54know, fat more fashion conscious than you did, then you might
- 22:57encounter on the ferry to Nantucket.
- 23:00But still very much that guy, you know, he's got some Vineyard
- 23:05Vine, trousers, and he wears the Ralph Lauren polo shirts I was
- 23:09kind of sherbet colors but also is got you know his Etro linen
- 23:15shirt and he wears like some some just nicer Resort Wear and
- 23:22then. Rachel is based on someone I
- 23:27know that married someone in finance but was also have an
- 23:32artsy check that I used to hang out with in the East Village.
- 23:36I was going to say reaches a little bit harder to figure out
- 23:39from Our costume point of view her costume is don't.
- 23:41Exactly tell you who she is, which is kind of, to the
- 23:45character actually, that's what we thought is like, she's just,
- 23:48she has married Shane, but they haven't been together that long.
- 23:52And she is still trying to figure ourselves out.
- 23:55Still asking herself questions about why she married this guy?
- 24:01Because their values? Don't totally aligned and they
- 24:04come from slightly different worlds.
- 24:05But, but not, but not, not really in the end.
- 24:09Um, but so we did put that in too close a bit like she.
- 24:13She also has some Vincent cooler, vintage pieces mixed in
- 24:18with her, Lilly, Pulitzer dress, and her goyard bag has some
- 24:27sweet little vintage finds that she got a nice Village or it was
- 24:31a mixture. She's a bit mixed up like her
- 24:33character. But yeah, that's that's so
- 24:36funny. You say that because then we
- 24:37have a Shane's mom. The quite opposite.
- 24:40She's not mixed up. We know exactly who she is a
- 24:42moment. She walks in just wearing like
- 24:47really dramatic hot pink, you know automatically who this
- 24:50person is? Yeah, she was really fun.
- 24:54I was I'm hoping she'll come back for like you know Season 3
- 24:58or something because I want one kitty.
- 25:00I want her to come with her friends.
- 25:03Yeah, that would be is no good. Lotus on a girls trip.
- 25:07Yeah, she was Molly is so Fun and has that background and You
- 25:11Know, sketch comedy. And so she's like a clothes are
- 25:15really important to her and the fittings with her were really
- 25:20really hilarious and she is, you know, definitely knows what she
- 25:26wants. But is also very deferential and
- 25:29wants wants to know what you're thinking and very very
- 25:33collaborative and yeah, her clothes.
- 25:37Yeah, bold and And she's, you know, large and in charge and we
- 25:42wanted her. She was to reflect that we made
- 25:45sure to give her Frills and bows and be like a little bit from
- 25:49this, you know, world where she's always been a princess.
- 25:52And you know, when you go to these communities, they are
- 25:55wearing a lot of hot pink and, you know, strong, strong Prince,
- 26:00even wherever they are. So we definitely had her like
- 26:03that, right? It's just kind of peacocking
- 26:06about the hotel. I would say Where's really
- 26:09expensive? Jewelry?
- 26:10We were able to borrow some real.
- 26:13So she's covered in like hundreds of thousands of dollars
- 26:16in of bling, which really is nice.
- 26:18Oh, wow, twinkles. And we were not always able to
- 26:22do that, but it was kind of easy for us to do because we were
- 26:25bolted in the hotel, right? I'm obsessed with the show.
- 26:30And then we have the character of all characters, Tanya played
- 26:35by the Jennifer Coolidge. I mean, talking about a Fashion
- 26:39show every single look, I was like, that's my favorite, that's
- 26:43my favorite. I love the black look, she
- 26:47wears. When she's trying to put her
- 26:48mother's ashes in the ocean for the first time.
- 26:51Yeah. And her palm tree look.
- 26:53That green outfit is so good. I mean every outfit so good.
- 26:59Thank you. We it's so cool to see it all
- 27:03together. There it looks, it looks great.
- 27:05You've got some fun, Tonia pictures.
- 27:09She is what my house looks like. Now it's just pictures of Tanya
- 27:12everywhere. Oh my God, she's so fun.
- 27:16Obviously, Jennifer is a hoot to work with and but we tried to,
- 27:20you know, we wanted her to look like a little bit of a hot mess
- 27:25but not so but we also wanted her to look appealing and you
- 27:30know clothes that we would would also like to wear in a way.
- 27:36We didn't want to laugh at Tanya and be like or what you know.
- 27:39No, her at her. Ensembles are kind of out there,
- 27:41but we also wanted them to be. We wanted to, like we wanted the
- 27:45audience to like Tanya, so we tried to walk that line of.
- 27:49Yes, she's a bit of a mess and she's rich, and she, you know,
- 27:55has been single her whole life and she's going through a bit of
- 28:00a, you know, breakdown. We tried to walk that line, so
- 28:03that she seemed vulnerable. But also, I mean, she's kind of
- 28:07a bad egg but also she's Means well, and we.
- 28:12So we try to make sure her clothes look like someone we
- 28:15kind of liked, and then, she's she Jennifer likes to tailored
- 28:21clothing, so we always had to kind of do that almost
- 28:25impossible thing of, like, flowy, but tight at the same
- 28:29time so we're trying to get that balance, right?
- 28:33Because we felt like soft sheer layers was good to for her
- 28:38vulnerability. Leti with, we felt like if she
- 28:42was to tailored, then she'd be too strong and we didn't, we
- 28:46didn't feel like tiny would be that put together, right?
- 28:50It has someone's feel like it's something.
- 28:51She kind of like is going through rack and just kind of
- 28:53puts it on real quick because she's still on the go.
- 28:57Even if she is feeling like a mess throughout the entire
- 29:00vacation, do you have a favorite Tanya look or a favorite couple
- 29:05looks. I like the two there to kind of
- 29:09similar ones that you talked about to there's the palm tree
- 29:12green and there's the sort of lilac and orange monkey print
- 29:19that she arrives in the I think those are my favorites
- 29:23definitely because they're just very strong and you're like who
- 29:29a bit mysterious like who is this person and you know she
- 29:34clearly has money but You know, we tied them slightly wonky so
- 29:40she seemed a little off but those are my favorites and those
- 29:43are from a South American, a Colombian designer that I found
- 29:47I was struggling to get the clothes at the time of year so
- 29:51kind of went to some more tropical areas to invent things.
- 29:55I know down there. She just gave me so much joy.
- 29:58So funny, I just want to go on vacation now.
- 30:02It's I need it. That's what was nice was, you
- 30:08know, nobody was traveling at the time.
- 30:09So a lot of people got some wish-fulfillment out of the
- 30:12show, right? And finally, also, I noticed was
- 30:16that all the costumes of the local people of the island felt
- 30:21really real and authentic, to me, I'm guessing you probably
- 30:26put in a lot of research in identifying what these costumes
- 30:29would look like. Yeah, we met with the troops
- 30:33that come into the hotel. This At to do the luau and made
- 30:39sure that our grass skirts were, you know, the same as theirs.
- 30:44And they taught us how to tie some of the sarang's.
- 30:48There's a guy who like lights the conscious every night and he
- 30:52was, it's called a Lika Lika. It's like a male perreo and
- 30:59there's a certain way to tie it, you know, you can look on
- 31:02YouTube, but it's also fun to get to have a local show.
- 31:06You You how to do it and one of my costumers was Hawaiian and
- 31:10was helpful to and help me make some of the jewelry and
- 31:14headdresses I love that it was. I felt very just beautiful and
- 31:19it really brought me in and it just felt like I don't know.
- 31:22I was not even sure if you made these like this just feels so
- 31:25real really brings you into the world.
- 31:27Yeah that students need because they shoot it with all the tiki
- 31:30torches as well. So looks beautiful helps when
- 31:34the lighting is is good too. Alex, I love the show so much,
- 31:39I'm so glad to hear that you did season 2 also, I cannot wait.
- 31:43I know you probably can't say anything about it, but I'm on
- 31:46the edge of my seat. Waiting coming at Ya.
- 31:51Well Alex, we're going to take a little break and when we come
- 31:54back, I'm so excited to talk to you about Jordan peels new
- 31:57movie. Nope.
- 31:58I can't believe you did both of these things.
- 32:02I know I'm so I'm so lucky. I that they're really fun.
- 32:05Really, my kind of Pop culture. Pop culture, Mayhem great.
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- 33:11This is been such a fun episode. Alex is so incredible.
- 33:15I could talk to her forever. But luckily for you, the fun
- 33:18does not have to stop here and it just two days on Thursday.
- 33:23We're going to release the second part of this interview
- 33:25where we talk about the costumes of Adam peels.
- 33:28Nope. So head to the theaters
- 33:30immediately. See this film seeing IMAX if you
- 33:33can the film was shot in IMAX oh you really gotta get into it,
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- 33:43as well which I really hope you do.
- 33:45We have a great episode Elizabeth, convince me to watch
- 33:48the show Dairy girls, which that is on Netflix.
- 33:52Elizabeth will be back for that. So don't be too sad.
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