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INTERVIEW: T.K. Kirkland Talks Comedy Tour, Being Saved From Shooting, Becoming A 'Senior Citizen,' Diddy + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is the j n V.
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  Speaker 3: Jesse Lai Charlam and the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building. That's right,
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  Speaker 3: the good brother T. K.
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  Speaker 2: Kirklees me to.
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  Speaker 4: The mother Fky.
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  Speaker 5: Summer visit from TK Kirkley means something big must be happening,
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  Speaker 5: and it is. Yes, you just so not to catch
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  Speaker 5: me if you can. World Tour, Yes, be alive Nation.
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  Speaker 6: Yes we started in April, but you know I always
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  Speaker 6: try to get to you when I give you a kick.
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  Speaker 1: Stuff off.
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  Speaker 6: But then with the kids and other stuff, I had
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  Speaker 6: to travel, so everything worked out well. So I'm making
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  Speaker 6: a pit stop this weekend for the Stress Factory because
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  Speaker 6: it's my home. It's the only date that Viddy had
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  Speaker 6: and I had to come do Jersey. So that's why
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  Speaker 6: I'm here, you know, to promote that and to talk
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  Speaker 6: about the the rest of the tour, which I'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: be in Houston next week at the House of Blues,
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  Speaker 6: and the nineteenth I'm gonna be at Elmo's in Austin, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm I'm excited. I'm excited.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, man, you just turned sixty three this year too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what keeps you motivated?
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  Speaker 4: Man? What keeps you going?
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  Speaker 1: I just think it's in my DNA, you know.
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  Speaker 6: And at one time, I think we talked about I
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  Speaker 6: was going to retire, and then when you start realizing,
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  Speaker 6: when you're home for a couple of days or week,
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  Speaker 6: you go, wow, this is I don't know, you know,
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  Speaker 6: You're like, you know what, I think I need to
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  Speaker 6: stay busy because I think that's the old mindset. People
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  Speaker 6: think they need to stay retired just to chill. But
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  Speaker 6: I think to stay youthful and active and live a
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  Speaker 6: long time, you actually have to be active and fit
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  Speaker 6: in your schedule, working out and taking care of yourself
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  Speaker 6: all so I stay consistent with that.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you about, you know, comedians stealing jokes, right,
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  Speaker 3: And it's something that we always talk about all the time.
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  Speaker 2: You've come up here so many.
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  Speaker 3: Times, and you probably would have first one to talk
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  Speaker 3: about signs of getting old and make sure you date
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  Speaker 3: somebody that knows the signs of getting old, right, right?
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  Speaker 3: Hearing that joke more and more, Yes, yes, does that
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  Speaker 3: upset you when you when you hear your jokes.
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  Speaker 6: Here's the thing when I said that joke. Someone says,
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  Speaker 6: Simbad did that joke years ago. What people don't know
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  Speaker 6: about me? And I think Charlamagne can said because he's
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  Speaker 6: worked with me a lot of times. I never watch
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  Speaker 6: another comic. I always stay out the room. So what
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  Speaker 6: happens as you get older in life and business you
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  Speaker 6: talk about there's no comic that's not going to talk
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  Speaker 6: about something that another comic has not talked about already.
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  Speaker 6: It's impossible, right, it's going to be the same topic
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  Speaker 6: and may not. Now, if you do somebody's material joke
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  Speaker 6: for joke for joke, you're stealing the joke. But if
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  Speaker 6: you dealing with topic like we all we're comedians. Do
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  Speaker 6: you want to talk about marriage? You want to talk
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  Speaker 6: about marriage. I want to talk about marriage, right. I
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  Speaker 6: can't stop you from there there because that's your story.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: One thing that I do about.
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  Speaker 6: My stand up show is I read a lot and
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  Speaker 6: when I go and get on the mic, whatever happens happens.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a set structure show because.
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  Speaker 6: When I got my degree, it was we were taught
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  Speaker 6: that when you give a speech, you never get the
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  Speaker 6: same speech for the same audience because every audience is different,
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  Speaker 6: So you truly have to be prepared for what's going
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  Speaker 6: to happen. So when someone to steals something in mine,
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  Speaker 6: I'm not that petty. I got so much material, Like
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  Speaker 6: I'll do two three hours on you in a minute.
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  Speaker 6: But when I have my own stand up show and
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  Speaker 6: I put comics on the show, I run a tight ship.
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  Speaker 6: I talk about what you cannot talk about because most
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  Speaker 6: comics don't have comedy IQ and comede i Q is
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  Speaker 6: like a Lebron James or Michael Jordan. They know a
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  Speaker 6: lot about the other players on the teams, right. Well,
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  Speaker 6: comedians don't do that because comedians will be on the
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  Speaker 6: same show and want to go right behind each other.
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  Speaker 6: And let's say something happened to Will Smith. Someone doesn't
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  Speaker 6: talk to him as a team and say, yo, you
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  Speaker 6: talk about this, but don't talk about that because the headliner,
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  Speaker 6: they all go on, talk about Will Smith, they all
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  Speaker 6: go on, talk about sex, they all go on. So
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  Speaker 6: the person in the audience.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, I'm tired of this.
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  Speaker 6: He willing to listen, Like are the comics will No,
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  Speaker 6: comics don't want to listen. What I what I found
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  Speaker 6: out when I started structuring my show, there was I
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  Speaker 6: was getting back last. Don't want nobody to shine. But
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  Speaker 6: y'all know me for a long time. I worked hard
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  Speaker 6: to get my name on the marquee, and I run
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  Speaker 6: my show the way I want my show ran, regardless
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  Speaker 6: of if a person gets upset or not, because I
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  Speaker 6: know the quality and how I want the show to run,
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  Speaker 6: and I want comics to you do this right, material,
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  Speaker 6: you do this, you do that, and then bam I
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  Speaker 6: come on and then it's a complete show.
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  Speaker 4: And you a tough act to follow regardless.
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  Speaker 6: DK absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 6: play You already know. I bring the heat. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 6: bring the heat. Whether it's a concert or whatever, I
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  Speaker 6: bring the heat. And I saw you that that's interested.
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  Speaker 6: That to be like a full circle moment.
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  Speaker 5: You hosted the thirtieth anniversary of the Cash Money Millionaires.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, and shout out to Baby and Slim. We've been
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  Speaker 6: working on some other things and the Baby said, T
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  Speaker 6: T you should do the the Essence Fest and I
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  Speaker 6: turned him down. To be honest with you, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 6: think when you get a certain ages, it's some things
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  Speaker 6: you don't want to do.
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  Speaker 1: No more.
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  Speaker 4: Ence is perfect.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, I didn't know. I haven't been to the
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  Speaker 1: Essence in twenty something years.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because Essence is perfect. It's a little trying
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  Speaker 2: to ske a little low old. Yeah, but it's twenty five.
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  Speaker 6: What I'm saying is how old were you guys twenty
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  Speaker 6: years ago? Yeh see that's when last time I was
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  Speaker 6: at the Essence. So it was a different vibe then, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: it was a different vibe. So I was like, ah,
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  Speaker 6: so since we was working on some other star, it
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  Speaker 6: came back up again and I said, yo, baby, let's
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  Speaker 6: you know, let's do the the Essence fast. So we
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  Speaker 6: did the Essence fast, and he got me the host
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  Speaker 6: the YouTube celebration because you know, Leo Cohen and YouTube
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  Speaker 6: gave them an award as well down YouTube, and I hosted.
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  Speaker 6: I got to bring out the tucks and all that
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  Speaker 6: kind of stuff and do something cause I don't get
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  Speaker 6: a chance to wear suits that much. So that was
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  Speaker 6: a good feeling. So we were doing a lot of
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  Speaker 6: things together and so shout out the baby and no, crew,
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  Speaker 6: what are you doing with them?
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  Speaker 5: Because I've been hearing that you might have a Netflix
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  Speaker 5: special coming. Yeah, but I'm here and you're doing something
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  Speaker 5: with Birdman's with the Birdman like a special.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, what we're going to do is everything should be
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  Speaker 6: finalized soon, but we're going to do it October eighteenth
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  Speaker 6: at the Filmore in New Orleans and it's going to
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  Speaker 6: be Cash Money Presents t K Kirkland.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: So we getting ready to do something really really huge,
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  Speaker 6: and then we got some other big things that we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not even sent done.
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  Speaker 4: But you went on tour with them back in the day, right, I.
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  Speaker 6: Started with Cash Money And what happened was a man
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  Speaker 6: shout out to Ron Bird because I was touring with
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  Speaker 6: Jay z Herd Like Life tour and when we got
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  Speaker 6: down to New Orleans, nelling them was all on the show,
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  Speaker 6: but they didn't have nobody to host it. So I'm
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  Speaker 6: sitting in the wrners, you know, my opportunist. So I said,
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  Speaker 6: ron y'all, y'all need somebody to go on?
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  Speaker 4: He said, you want to go up?
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  Speaker 2: Ron Bird was a tour manager.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know exactly who Ron Bird is.
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  Speaker 2: I was on that tour. You was on that tour, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Nelly bird Man fabulous.
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  Speaker 6: I was yes, ye, yeah, right, And I went on
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  Speaker 6: and baby saw me and you know, he said, yo,
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  Speaker 6: they was about to do Ball of Blocking And he said, Yo,
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  Speaker 6: what up water? He said, listen, Yo, you're the man.
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  Speaker 6: He said, ain't you that brother from New Jersey Drive?
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  Speaker 6: Because I was in New Jersey Drive and I said yeah.
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  Speaker 6: He says, well, we're about to do this movie called
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  Speaker 6: Ball of Block. I want you to play a cop
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  Speaker 6: and baller block. And you know, they just came into
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  Speaker 6: a lot of money. So I was flying down there
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  Speaker 6: all the time. And when we got ready to do
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  Speaker 6: the set, I was in my dressing room and this
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  Speaker 6: one baby didn't really respect money because he was carrying
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  Speaker 6: money around like Floyd Mayweather. So he came in with
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  Speaker 6: these two big bags of money, said Yo, how much
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  Speaker 6: I owe you? I said, give me the whole damn bag.
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  Speaker 6: So he just threw me a few thousands. Think it
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  Speaker 6: was like ten fifteen thousand to do the part and
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  Speaker 6: the rest of Sister because we was all me ron
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  Speaker 6: birr at all on. They went shopping that day. I'll
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  Speaker 6: never get it, and he bought like six bit leys
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  Speaker 6: at one time.
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  Speaker 1: Baby.
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  Speaker 5: Why you say he don't respect money because he was
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  Speaker 5: just throwing You know, I'm old school, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: believe everything you make you keep like I mean, when
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  Speaker 5: the word stunner really fits him.
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  Speaker 1: Because he stunts yea in a positive way.
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  Speaker 4: How would you.
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  Speaker 5: Tell these kids nowadays, and just people in general, how
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  Speaker 5: would you tell them to respect money?
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  Speaker 6: That's a good question, Charlamagne. What kids to me don't
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  Speaker 6: think about it as their future, right. I think you
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  Speaker 6: get set up from the government because everybody gets their
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  Speaker 6: credit card, at least they used back when you're eighteen
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  Speaker 6: nineteen years old, they send you this credit card to
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  Speaker 6: get have twenty five hundred dollars on it, and kids,
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  Speaker 6: most kids in the hood don't never get that kind
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  Speaker 6: of money at one time, so they go shopping, never
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  Speaker 6: pay the credit card bill.
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  Speaker 1: Now, when you get older, you really get your life.
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  Speaker 6: They gave them to get your credit card, and you
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  Speaker 6: realize now that twenty five hundred it's thirty thousand, five
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  Speaker 6: hundred and eighteen cent. It was a setup from the beginning.
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  Speaker 6: So what we want to tell kids is think about
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  Speaker 6: your future. Because when you get my age, and not
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  Speaker 6: even my age, you understand it better. But you can
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  Speaker 6: really start it in your twenties and thirties, understand points
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  Speaker 6: and discounts. Now, all of y'all travel a lot, most
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  Speaker 6: of y'all in here, travel for free on some place
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  Speaker 6: cause you got miles and points. So when you run
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  Speaker 6: into a situation, you don't spend your money. You use
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  Speaker 6: your points to book them two round trips, two round trips,
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  Speaker 6: tickets to England or Saint Lucia's or Jamaica.
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  Speaker 1: Or Hawaii or Africa. Right, you do that.
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  Speaker 6: So what we want the kids to understand is get
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  Speaker 6: your nice credit card, start building up. Start going to
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  Speaker 6: different hotels and you might start a low get to
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  Speaker 6: marry a bomb boy and all that, and build up
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  Speaker 6: points over the years, and as you get older, you'll
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  Speaker 6: start having discounts. You'll get free airline tickets and bring
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  Speaker 6: your girl when they upgrade you from a regular room
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  Speaker 6: to the presidential suite at the Saint Regis's Goods. You
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  Speaker 6: are an elite customer. And that's the stuff I think
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  Speaker 6: that we had to teach people because one of my
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  Speaker 6: things I put in my actors were like Rockefeller was
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  Speaker 6: so amazing. He got most people thinking that most of
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  Speaker 6: the schools in Atlanta HBCU schools.
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  Speaker 4: Rockefeller.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, watch the game. A lot of people think that
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  Speaker 6: Spellman is an HBCU school, is not watch I'm about
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  Speaker 6: to tell you ready, Rock Spellman is Rockefeller's wife.
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  Speaker 1: They dropped the Rockefeller Spellman.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if any of this is true, but.
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  Speaker 6: Better google it right now. I know what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 6: Right while we on the air, I'm listening. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 6: while we're on the air. Spellman is Rockefeller's wife.
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  Speaker 4: Let me see. Oh, Laura Spellman Rockefeller.
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  Speaker 5: Laura Spellman Rockefeller was an American abolitionist, philanthropist, school teacher,
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  Speaker 5: and prominent member of the Rockefeller Fellow family.
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  Speaker 4: Her husband was Standard Oil co founder John D. Rockefeller.
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  Speaker 4: Spelman College in Atlanta, Georgia, and the Lawrence Spellerman Rockefeller
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  Speaker 4: Memorial with name for her. Okay, you learned something new
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  Speaker 4: every day?
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that something? Yell?
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy? So Spelman, the HBCU is named after a
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  Speaker 2: white woman. That's wow. I never knew that.
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  Speaker 1: You see you what I'm saying? Ain't that insane?
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  Speaker 2: That's wild?
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  Speaker 4: What made you?
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  Speaker 2: How'd you?
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  Speaker 4: When did you?
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  Speaker 2: When did you hear that?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Many years ago?
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  Speaker 1: Because I read a lot and it blew my mind.
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  Speaker 1: I read a lot too, but I ain't never read that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I haven't read every book, right, isn't that amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Is it?
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  Speaker 3: In eighteen eighty four, the school express your attitude for
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  Speaker 3: Rockerfeller's generosity by changing the name.
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  Speaker 5: Spelman College was named as the Laura Spelman due to
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  Speaker 5: her significant financial contribution to the institution.
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  Speaker 4: Throughout her life.
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  Speaker 5: Laura Spelman was dedicated to social and educational causes, particularly
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  Speaker 5: for women in African Americans. Yes, so it's the HBCU.
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  Speaker 5: She just donated a lot of money to it. Wow,
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  Speaker 5: they said, yeah, I knew this, though the rock Feller
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  Speaker 5: family continued to donate ten percent of their income to charity,
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  Speaker 5: including substantial donations to Spelman Founded to educate Black women.
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  Speaker 6: Wow, and wow other colleges around there. It's just not Spellman.
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  Speaker 6: So it's just amazing things that happened in eighteen hundreds.
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  Speaker 6: How the world can manipulate or change, because there's just
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  Speaker 6: some things we just don't know. Just like I've read
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  Speaker 6: the other day and saw the first Bible that came
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  Speaker 6: out in eighteen hundreds, and how the when we got colonized,
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  Speaker 6: how they changed all the black faces to white. Even
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  Speaker 6: the last Supper was all black people, and it's just
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  Speaker 6: just just totally just been manipulated. Now, one thing I
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  Speaker 6: don't want to get into as og the things that
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  Speaker 6: I always talk about. You you don't talk about religion
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  Speaker 6: and politics. That's the real So that's something you know.
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  Speaker 6: I just wanted to mention that just a little and
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  Speaker 6: move on, because you know.
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  Speaker 2: Just to put it out there.
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  Speaker 3: There's more House too, Henry Lyneman Morehouse, who was a
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  Speaker 3: Baptist minister from Stanford.
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  Speaker 2: New York. Yes he's a white gentleman as well. Yes
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  Speaker 2: he's a white gentleman.
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  Speaker 4: Why didn't name it after him?
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  Speaker 5: You're gonna have me researching this research, But at least
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  Speaker 5: the world is about to see something that because I'm
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  Speaker 5: quite sure if you don't know a lot of because
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  Speaker 5: when I say it in my stand up, people are
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  Speaker 5: blown away. I'm quite sure some people don't believe, Like
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  Speaker 5: you almost didn't believe me until you google it. I
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  Speaker 5: did not believe you right right right, But I'm saying
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  Speaker 5: people was to feel the same way. But people don't
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  Speaker 5: have enough time when they in the show to google it,
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  Speaker 5: so they go out. Maybe he's telling the truth, Maybe
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  Speaker 5: he's not telling the truth. So it's crazy.
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  Speaker 6: Man.
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  Speaker 5: I saw you on Black TV. You said that a
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  Speaker 5: phase on love stopped you from killing somebody from shooting somebody.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out the phase on. I'm always
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  Speaker 6: gonna show love the phase on. Back in the nineties,
• 14:10
  Speaker 6: I had some issues with some gentlemen down in the
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  Speaker 6: comedy club. And I could tell the whole story.
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  Speaker 1: What happened.
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  Speaker 2: Gon shoot a comedian.
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  Speaker 1: No no, no, no, the owner.
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  Speaker 6: He going to the top, the owner because it was
• 14:24
  Speaker 6: a hustling dude out of Detroit, and he was, you know,
• 14:28
  Speaker 6: he had influenced a lot of young men. You know,
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  Speaker 6: everybody took the wrong side of that business. Instead of
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  Speaker 6: running the comic club. They all thought they was gangsters.
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  Speaker 6: And I went out earlier that day and wound up
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  Speaker 6: meeting this girl, probably the night before, and we wound
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  Speaker 6: up having sex during the day. So I learned so
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  Speaker 6: much to this point in life that I tried not
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: to have sex before show because I'm just tired, tired,
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  Speaker 6: and me and this girl, you know, we threw down
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  Speaker 6: dog by two, three o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: I'm out and I got three ose that night and
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  Speaker 1: I missed too, woke up panicing.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 6: And one thing about me, I always like to smell girls.
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  Speaker 6: I'm still taking my shower. I ain't going out until
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  Speaker 6: I washed my ass. Right, So I get there and
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  Speaker 6: they all are in the office, you know, thinking that
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  Speaker 6: they're tough, talk about TK what happened. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 6: tell and want to do. Spunch me in my face
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  Speaker 6: for being late, for being late, that's my point.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: Now I had already caught the case here in New
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: York with the puppy situation back in the day.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Right, hold on, you need to for people that are
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: new here.
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, because everything that was the credit card frauds
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: that we had back in the nineties.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Right, And.
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: And once you go to court, your hands are tied
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: because you're on probation. Now I was in a very
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: crazy situation. I had the puppet case here in ninety eight,
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: but a year before that, I had caught the case
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: in La So now New York was trying to convict
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: me as a predicate felon, right, and a predicate fella
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: in the state of New York is a mandatory four
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: to six years. So I'm dealing with that. A lot
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: of people got to pass in my lifetime, is because
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: I had something else over my head. And once you
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: get in front of a DA or a prosecutor that
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: really want.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: To they wait, Yeah, they waiting for you to slip.
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: You got to turn the other cheek when people are
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: putting you in.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: A bad situation. So you got to make good choices.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: How old were you when.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: This is forty something years old?
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: And let me tell you something, when you get hit
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: in forty something, it hurt, especiallyh you ain't been hit
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: in a long time. Like it's a whole different type
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: of feeling when you get hit like that. And so
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: what I did was I went to the whip.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: I just want to tell you, I just think it's wild.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Like he was forty years old knocking off his student.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: I thought this was like a twenty year old thing,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: like you know, you know, you little reckless he knock
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: off and get.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Late, But you forty years old come into the club late?
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, coming, But that's the saying. I had a little
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: situation and coming back up, was coming up, coming up
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: the blast, and Faison saw me. He snatched me up,
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: got me in the car and he's driving yelling at me.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: When he saw you with the gun.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was getting about to be on dog.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: He was walking out the street with the hen.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Back then, I was crazy, you know, I always kept something, and.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: So did he punched you and you left?
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I left.
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: The guys left, so I didn't yell at fight. I
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: just knew what I was gonna do. I went right outside.
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: They wouldn't come outside. They were scared, so they wounded
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: to call on the police and everything, and Faison snatched
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: me up and got me out, and he was yelling
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: at me because Faison also was one of the good
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: friends who wrote me a character letter or the puppy
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: situation to the judge here named Margaret, who put fear
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: in my heart. This woman has so I could just
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: tell she was tired of me, because what happens when
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: you go to court, they do care about that chick
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: of the case, but what they care about is your past.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: And her concern was how did he get away with
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: all this other stuff, like y'all should have stopped him
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: years ago. And basically what she was saying is the
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: buck stops here. So she put feared me to the
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: point that I had literally took a deal with New York,
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: you know, to turn myself in in January, and I
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: was going to do the four to six years. And
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: my business manager at the time, David Cleman, said they
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: have underestimated you. So I'm still traveling. I go to Harlem,
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: not go to Vegas if I lived in Vegas. I
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: go to Vegas. I'm gambling and I meet this guy
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: stand next to me, and he happens to be an
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: attorney from Long Island and his name was Tony Capitella.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: You know, now, I'm thinking I'm in the Sopranos capitaler.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: So he's talking to me and I'm.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: Telling about this case in New York. He said, well,
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: if you help me out do this, I'll help you.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: So he got Tony Tepper and Frank Dodado was his partner.
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: I don't know if they're still alive, and we work
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: out a deal. I helped them out on the situation
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: and they come to court. But this is what I
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: tell them in Januar, because I met them like in November,
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: and I said, listen, when you come to Manhattan, you
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: cannot come late, because this lady was tough. He comes
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: an hour late, but he's sharved, got this church Koto
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: is on and we took my deal off the table,
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: and the judge was so mad. I didn't even know
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: if that word, this word meant until she said it
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: she said, reprimand mister Kirkland.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Put him a handcuff, took me in.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: Handcuffed dog and took me to Rikers for thirty days
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: because I changed. I took the deal off, so she
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: wasn't playing. Now while I'm up in Rikers Island fighting
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: the Puffy case, Puffy gets in trouble with Seine and
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Jennifer Lopez at the club with the gun. So the
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: same DA people come to me that's trying to put
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: me away. They want Puffy that bad, so they come
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: to Righters Allen and my Atturney is there. He said, hey,
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: they want to talk to you and want to know
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: what you talk to the grand jury that you saw
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: Puffy with the gun, and you know, me being clever,
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: I said, y'all get me out of here. We can
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: talk about it.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: So they took me from Rykers Allen back down to
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: the tombs. So you know, the CS know you, right,
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: so they see the detectives every day that what's going on.
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: So they taking me out and they got me in
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: the black car and we're going to the club where
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: the shooting happened. But they're not telling me exactly what happened.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: They want me to Rea retream lines. So they're saying,
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: you was here and Puffy was here. So I'm like,
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: I was here, Puffy was then, So you know, I'm
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: like going through it. But all this time, for the
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: three days they took me out, I'm getting blimpies, getting blimpies,
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: you know, because in jail the food is horrible. So
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm hungry, I'm thirsty. You know, I'm eating
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: my butt off, right, you know. They take me back
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: up to Rikers Island. I think a week later. They
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: come to me and my attorney says, TK, they want
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: to know if you're gonna help them with the grand jury.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And I said, oh, is not the club that night?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: No, they wanted to be to lie.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, so they wanted you to put yourself in
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the club.
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they want to put myself in the club because
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: that's how bad they wanted Puffy.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they want him, that bad dog. And I said, nah,
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: I'm good. They was mad as hell.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Yo.
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: I said, now I'm good. And I wind up getting
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: that four to six off the table. I got five
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: years probation and here I am a successful business stand up.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Did you ever have that conversation with Puffin told tell
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Puff what they were trying to do.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: And now, no, we never, we never had that discussion.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: We nevers.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: You might have stopp Puffs, Rain and Taram TK if
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: you'd have said something back then.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: No, but I wasn't there. It would have been alive.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: They put him in jail.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, always that type of situation.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree puffa. Yeah, but puff is
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: going through what he's supposed to go through, because that
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: makes sense. See, in life, you get so many chances
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: to do right. And because I've been there, you have
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: so many chances to do right. If you don't do right,
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: the universe has a way of humbling you.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I agree with that.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: The universe will humble you dog more than you mentioned
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: because as you you know, we're all successful, right. You
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: get up certain days, got your chest out a little
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: bit more. Some days, you know, you treat some people
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: a little wrong. You know, sometimes you know just the
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: way it is right. But you gotta take that moment
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: to say to yourself, yo, I'm blessed. That's not that's
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: not Let's not push this envelope because God can really
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: take this away from you. And if you keep treating
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: people bad, you keep doing violent things to women, you
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: keep being disrespectful. Now, don't get me wrong, you can
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: do this maybe one year, maybe a week, right, and
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: then get your life together. But if you have a
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: track record for years and you didn't figure it out,
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: all the universe or make you pay. And when that
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: situation happened to me with puff, what hurt me? Well,
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: we didn't have social media then. But what hurt me
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: my mom found out Cause when I was doing crime before,
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: we didn't have social media, no one knew about your business.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: You could have shot somebody, right, but no one knows
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: what you did a week ago. So now this hit
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: the news. Now, the same people who love you and
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: respect you, when you get in trouble, they're embarrassed because
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: they whole career they talk about how amazing you are,
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: how blah blah blah, and when you hurt them, it's
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: a blow. And my mother didn't go to church sholl
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: for like six months. You stop going to the same
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: place to get her hear about it. Yeah, she ain'tanna
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: hear about you. So I explained to hers that ma,
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: do not be embarrassed. As he raised me, right, I said,
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: you raised me right. You know, so someone says to you,
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: just say, you know, he's his own man. That was
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: his choices, and all those experiences made me who I
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: am today, right sixty something years old. I'm humble, I'm
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: respectful of life, and to still doing what I'm doing
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: at my age is just in a total gift in shape,
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: stay in the doctor's office, strong shoulders, and senior citizen.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: And you know you are considered the senior citizens. I
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: am a senior sixty five.
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: He started, he started at fifty five. You get your
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: ARP card at fifty five, you know, you know. And
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: now I'm president of the Homeowners Association. You know I
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: got Medicare AMB plus my private insurance. And that's why
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: I tell the young men to start stepping their game up,
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: because even though I'm in my six I still can
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: pull your girl. And they said, TK, what do you mean.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: I said, because I could put your woman on my insurance.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: I said, y'all out here dating women. She got a
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: tooth missing. You know, so y'all hear dating women you
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: only got You know, I'm not against surgery, that's what
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: you want to do. But if you can't get your
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: if you're gonna get your girl the butt or she
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: get a button and you can't give it an extra
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: few dollars to have the five to match the butt.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: It's not a relationship.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Insurance is important because a lot of these women page
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: balance be off, yes, be having that little yehishy older.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they can't even get to the doctor.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: They can't get to the doctor. Yeah. So that's the
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: where I come in. You know, I'll put them on
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: my insurance.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: You don't want to ask you about you brought up
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: puff and I just was thinking about, like a lot
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: of people from your era and people that you worked with.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: When when when I first met TK was when I was.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Working with Wendy will Yes, yes, and you was hosting
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: the It was she had a toy, it was.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: You.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And what's the young man's name that got caught with
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the trans Bobby Valentino, Boy Valentina.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: All right, But so when you when you see the situation,
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: when you see how things like Wendy turned out, like,
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: what do you think.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: Isn't that amazing the consequences of your choices. See, everything
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: is about the consequences of your choices. Some people only
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: think I try to teach people not to think about tomorrow.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: I teach people to think about ten, fifteen, twenty years
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: from now. You have to think that far in advance.
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: All great people think that far in advance. What I
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: mean by that, that's use football as analogy. Joe my
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: time to Tom Brady when they played games. What makes
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: them great championships? We're looking at the field. Most average
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: quarterbacks only look six yards with ever, but Joe Montanna,
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: Tom Brady, the whole stadium is there feel and gives.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: I've always tell people when I read this, saw this
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: interview Joe Montana in the eighties playing against It was
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: San Francisco playing against Dallas and they was losing. This
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: on the first time San Francisco beat Dallas NFC championship
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: up and in the other Joe Montana said, hey, guys,
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: you see John Candy up in the stands, like he
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: was so comfortable that he wasn't caring about what was
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: going to happen. He had saw John Candy and John
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: Kyne was big back in the eighties. He had, so
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: John Kane in the stands and that's the conversation he
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: was happening having with his team and great athletes.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Great people see the future.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: They don't think about, Like, my life is planned for
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: the next twenty five years. I know exactly what I'm doing,
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: you know, And that's just something that keeps me motivated.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: I know one I'm wearing on this particular day. That's
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: how far advanced I think. And that's what people have
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: to start think about. Some people don't think they're.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Going to die.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: Some people don't want to get insurance, some people don't
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: want to work out. And all the young people today
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: who are drinking alcohol all the time, you know what
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: they're not thinking about the consequences of the drinking, the
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: consequences of drinking years down the line.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: What is going to do to your body? And nobody cares.
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: And I just want everybody to have a long life
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: because the thing that I understand about this world is,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: and it's my understanding with the universe, is as long
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: as I live long enough on this planet, I'm going
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: to get everything that this universe has to give me.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: I will get everything I want. I would get everything
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: I want.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: I want to ask you about faith and Steve and
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: a too, they were going back and forth about Oja
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: being mentioned that the BT.
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: Was yes, and I am I can explain that Faizon
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: has his opinion, Steven has a spiritual and what I
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: want to tell African American and Spanish whoever are really
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: rocking with black people. We know O J killed the bitch, right,
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: Let's just do this like it's facts. Yeah, but let's
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: watch where I'm going. You know, we know you killed
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: the bit, but OJ's family. You know you're still buy
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: them obile for dinner. You know, but you hide the knives. Jesus,
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: you hide the knives.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: Faise on My Man phase on it said the exact
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: way to say Stephen A. Smith, my man, Shay Shane.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: I think men of power. I moved differently, you know quite.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: I think I'm older than those guys. When you're when
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: you're black, are really black. I'm not saying they're not black.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: Ones is you have a duty to protect your people,
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: and when people come there and you start talking crazy,
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: you got to say, you know what, not on this show.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: We're not going to We're not going to do that
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: on this show because we move a certain way on
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: this show. That's my definition of a man that you
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: hold everybody that comes on your show accountable. When you're
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: talking about your culture and your community. It's very important
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: because that's something that we don't do. You know, even
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: though we might know that person is wrong, but in
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: front of the world, you got to protect your people,
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: and that's what we are. But in front we have to cook.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: That's what other races do. And when you think about
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: other races.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: See the reason why black men are considering no good
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: just baby daddy is because African American women talk to
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: the world about how bad we are. But you don't
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: know nothing about the Mexican man. You don't know nothing
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: about the Indian India. Right, they don't talk about there
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: and what I've learned their life, they're just as bad
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: as we are.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: I see what you're saying, because to that point, we
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: do we that does happen to us.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: But black men do that. The black women historically bitches
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: whole right right right right, women don't listen.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Right right.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: We all talk about each other. And as a start, now,
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: when I'm on stage, I use the word B I,
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: T C H. I use profanity. The reason why I
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: do that because I want to get my porn across.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: But if he knows when I'm on your shild, don't
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: use profanity. I don't curse in front of my children.
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: My profanity is strictly for entertainment purposes.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, even what you said about about Nicole Brown Simpson,
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: that was it was a joke.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: Yes, and let's make sure I'm glad you said that. Listen, people,
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: that was a joke. Do not come after me talking
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: about Oh my god. He insisitive. He tells yo, I
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: don't want that problem. And I hope they don't cut
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: that part out, you know what I'm saying, because you
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: know how the world is, right, they'll just use that
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: part and everything else we'll have a problem.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you always said it's hard to find
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: good friends.
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: Man. Yeah, I think that's the tough thing to do.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: You know, Charlamagne, we live in the world of habitual liars,
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: in fact, habitual liars, and we all want to do
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: good because of our experience in life. And you meet
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: someone and you feel something for them, you want to
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: get that person a shot. They just caught you at
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: the right time, right, they caught you at the right time,
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: and you're like, I'm gonna get this person a shot,
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: but you don't see it coming. So there's two lessons
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  Speaker 6: in this journey, right, Two lessons is once you find
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  Speaker 6: out that person's a bitual liar, it teaches you to
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: keep your guard up for the rest of your life
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: and you're only gonna get played once, not just when
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: that person teaches you to be that way with everybody,
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: because it shows you that everybody has the ability to
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: get you. Everybody female, dude, they got to bed. I'm
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: not talking to be robbery. Talk about your time, talk
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: about relationships and talking about finance. Business like people go
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  Speaker 6: into business with people because people don't take the time
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  Speaker 6: to get to know person's character, find out where they live.
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  Speaker 6: Every time somebody want to do business with me, I said.
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  Speaker 1: Yo yo yo yo, Wait wait, wait, let's get to
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: know each other first. But when people hear something good,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: they're like yo, exchange numbers, do X, Y and Z.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: People not reading the contracts, people exchanging information ba.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Now you can't find.
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: Them because they disappeared and people have to take their
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: time to get the others going through DC and the
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: guy saw me and walking one way, he said, yo,
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: I got a business opportunity, said why.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: You want to do business with me?
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: So I don't know you? I said, no disrespect, I said,
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: I don't know you so why would you want to
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: do business with me? Why would I want to do
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: business with you. I have never met your mother. I
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: don't know where you are. I don't And that's my point.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: We have to stop that. We have to really get
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: into finding how a person moves and and life teaches
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: you little things about person. A person say the day
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: successful you got to peep out their hands, what kind
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: of sneakers they got on? Are they a fast talker?
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: Because some people in they are fast talker and run
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: a lot of gang. You say, oh, okay, because I
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: teach people who roll with me.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: What do you mean when you said what they got on?
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Because when I was growing up, my daddy would point
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: to these white men in my town, monks corner, and
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: they would look regular as hell, and he'd be like,
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: that's the richest man in corner. I ain't wear none
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: of his money. But watch what I'm about to tell you.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: You could wear something simple, but you know it's quality.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: M See when I'm in London and me and my
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: daughter we went to go see the Mona.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Lisa and.
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  Speaker 6: Scott just regular T shirt jeans. It was kind of big,
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: but you paid attention to detail. He had the cuff
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: turned up right on the sneaker, I mean on his jeans, and.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: It was findy.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: But when you know, you know, yeah.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: You see what I'm saying. We as you get older,
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: you understand, Like see, in your twenties, thirties and forties,
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: you think people care. In your fifties and sixties, you
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: realize nobody gave a fuck. Nobody gave a good job, right,
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: no one gave a fuck. You know, I drove everything
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: from a Bentley to a mini van.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Nobody cares. Nobody cares for real, nobody cares. It feels
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: good for you.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Nobody gives it. Damn nobody going when you die, nobody gonna.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Be like he drove a bit right, Nobody cares.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: He wore f indy every day, Charlamagne, nobody cares, you know.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: And when you think about us as well, we all
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: came up. We wore sneakers and shurees till the hole
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: came in the bottom. Remember the back in the day,
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: your sock be out, and all of us here together
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: probably got three thousand sneakers.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Easy, and don't wear none of them.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Don't wear none of them.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: You are not lying. So as soon as it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Gets a little dirty, don't get another pair.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Isn't that something they climb because I wear the thing
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: cloth that all the time.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Smart, I don't nobody cares. As long as you got
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: a fresh underwear.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if he does that.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: You think that same teacher tomorrow.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, But long as this underwear game is, I just
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: like it.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: When I get comfortable, I'm comfortable.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Listen to me.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: I watch you guys all the time, like like my brothers,
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: and I see how comfortable you are.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: And the only thing I can say about that, long
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: as you wash it, you.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Don't watch it tomorrow.
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: As long as you watch a little wood light, and
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: everything don't lose color, you know, and you always smell good,
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: and you keep your nuts fresh. Lot of a lot
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: of guys, the game is important that you that you
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: stay fresh, you know what I'm saying. Like a lot
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: of them, A lot of men don't understand that. Like
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: you got to when you roll up on women, especially.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: You gotta smell amazing, right.
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: You got to make sure everything about you is just
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: something because women like that. The young men today are
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: so I just don't think men today like women. I
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: think that you know, they don't want to take them out.
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: They don't want to give them flowers. They like, Yo,
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: she could do that herself. I'm with and you know,
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: I had a conversation with the dude to Harlem. He said,
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: you ain't got to do that. You know, you ain't
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: got to do nothing for them. You can still, I say.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Yo, what what?
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: Who raised you? Just spect what I'm saying. And to
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: the young men who are listening, it's not about about money.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: But you gotta have accomplishments, and you gotta have a
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: few dollars because either you're gonna pay directly or indirectly. Now,
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: some women got to put it right in their hand,
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: you know kind of women those are. And some women
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: you're gonna spend indirectly a movie, a dinner and then
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: be man enough. See, everything is not about a purpose, right.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: Just because you're taking a woman out so mean you
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: have to end up in bed.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: It's not about that. Sometimes a girl is best to
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: be a friend.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Yes, all my best relationships are home.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: Man, And you gotta think about that. Because this woman
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: that you turned out to be your friend, she grows
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: to be a producer, business person down the line. And
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: because you're cool, that's your opportunity. A lot of men
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: don't think that way. Guys start thinking that way. You
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: ain't got to hit it just because you bought us something,
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: don't mean you gotta be mean to. Like I saw,
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: I heard them some guy asks a girl for a
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: phone number and he killed her because she didn't give
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: it to him.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Do you understand what I'm saying, Like, he didn't even
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: seemed like.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: He was tough, but man, he was a little skinny dude.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: When I'm quite sure for the rest of his life,
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: while he's in prison, he will regret what he did
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: because I know they wailing on his ass.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Oh man, he's a party.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Oh man, they will know his ass. Oh my god.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: And you young guys, y'all think you're tough, but in jail,
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: ain't no guns. Ain't no guns. Brother, you you're gonna
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: really see how the people you never see on the
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: street that's super super tough, and people on the street
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: that you don't see on the street who's super super crazy,
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: and they find out you did something foul.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: And they plotting on you soon as you come through.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: So that's why some people go to protective custody when
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: they know because they know they come out in general population.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: You've done yones right, You're done?
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: So Yeah, TK Kirkling man, go check him out, catch
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: me if you can. World Tour tickets available right now
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: on Live Nation dot com. And he'll be in New Brunswick,
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: New Jersey this weekend at the Stress Factory.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Give them number, give them the number, Give them the number.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: What's the number?
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: The number?
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta get the number. We gotta give them number.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: On hold on stress Factory. Can't they just go to
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: the website.
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they get the website. You know I showed them
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: my age, didn't I. Yeah, you just go to stress
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: Factory dot com.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Get your tickets. Get your tickets.
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  Speaker 6: Lazers, Jersey City, the Tristate area, stand up t K
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• 40:02
  Speaker 6: mad love to the one and only TK, and then
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: check me out next Friday, July eighteenth and Houston at
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  Speaker 6: Elmo's Austin, and please follow me at TK Underscore Kirkland
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• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Well, it's the Breakfast Clubs TK Kirkland, mister.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Wake that ass up in the morning. The breakfast club