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Week Zero Shockers & Saints Questions: QB Battles and O-Line Woes · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 6: So the last couple of weeks we have been doing
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  Speaker 6: It's basically the rankings that everybody's going to go off
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  Speaker 6: This is the OTB Top twenty five, and so this remember,
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  Speaker 6: we're going to go you know, six, five, four, three,
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  Speaker 6: and then on Friday, the last day before boot meets ball,
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  Speaker 6: we're gonna go too and one for our two best
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  Speaker 6: teams in the country. Here a quick recap before we
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  Speaker 6: get to Tayyay with the number sixteen in the OTB
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  Speaker 6: Top twenty five at twenty five, Boise he State at
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  Speaker 6: twenty four, Memphis twenty three, Baylor twenty two, Georgia Tech
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  Speaker 6: twenty one, Tennessee twenty, Iowa State nineteen, Texas eight and
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  Speaker 6: four eighteen, Indiana seventeen, Old Miss sixteen, Florida fifteen, Texas
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  Speaker 6: Tech fourteen, SMU thirteen, Arizona State, twelve, Alabama eleven, Miami ten,
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  Speaker 6: Illinois nine, Texas eight, Oregon seven Notre Dame and number six.
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  Speaker 5: Heyday, we go number six.
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  Speaker 1: We are staying in the SEC. We have the Georgia.
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  Speaker 7: Buza, we will go down.
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  Speaker 5: Say what do you say?
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  Speaker 7: Say now?
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  Speaker 2: So, look, they're obviously breaking in a new quarterback with
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  Speaker 2: Gunnar Stockton. We saw him playing a few big time
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  Speaker 2: games and like he held his own.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't ask him to do a ton in.
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  Speaker 2: That game against Texas, but Georgia wins that game.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 2: He goes twenty of thirty two, two thirty four touchdown,
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  Speaker 2: no picks like Notre Dame in Texas. You could argue
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  Speaker 2: those were the two de best defenses in all of
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  Speaker 2: college football last year. Gunner Stockton thrown into the fire
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  Speaker 2: and he didn't collapse, he didn't fold, So credit to
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  Speaker 2: him there. Now they're breaking in a lot of new
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  Speaker 2: pieces on offense. Four of their five starting offensive lineman
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  Speaker 2: from a year ago or gone, but the one that
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  Speaker 2: is back is Ernest Green, their left tackle, which is
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  Speaker 2: big for a guy like Gunner Stockton. Oscar Delp and
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  Speaker 2: lost in Lucky, a tight end are both back. Dylan Bell,
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  Speaker 2: receiver from a year ago, he's back as well. So
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  Speaker 2: a few weapons for Gunner Stockton to play with as
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  Speaker 2: far as last year goes now at running back, it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be a committee like we've seen the past few years.
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  Speaker 2: And Nate Frasier back, he had six hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 2: one yards last year.
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  Speaker 1: He was kind of their lead back.
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  Speaker 2: And then you bring in Josh McCrae, the Illinois transfer.
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  Speaker 2: He had six hundred yards and double digit rushing touchdowns
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  Speaker 2: for the Fighting the Lion I last year. That's a
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  Speaker 2: pretty good one to two punch in the backfield. Just
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  Speaker 2: three returning starters on defense. But let's be honest, it's
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  Speaker 2: Kirby smarties aren't the benefit of the doubt. Guys always
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  Speaker 2: going to have a good defense. You bring in the
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  Speaker 2: Branch brothers, Zion and Zachariah. We'll see if the hype
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  Speaker 2: finally turns into on field production.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens there.
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  Speaker 2: Look a lot of young talent, second rank recruiting class
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, so some new faces in new places,
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  Speaker 2: but there's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of talent there.
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  Speaker 2: Nonetheless, I do like their schedule the more I look
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  Speaker 2: at it. I mean, look, it's tough, but you don't
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  Speaker 2: play LSU, you don't play Texas A and M. You
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  Speaker 2: don't play Ole miss you don't play Missouri you do
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  Speaker 2: get Mississippi State, Kentucky, and Auburn. Now you have Alabama
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  Speaker 2: and Texas on that schedule. Both of those games are
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  Speaker 2: in Athens. Though your toughest road game is Tennessee away,
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  Speaker 2: that's your toughest away game.
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  Speaker 1: But you got Alabama and.
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  Speaker 2: Texas at home, and you avoid some of the other
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  Speaker 2: heavy hitters in the SEC. So for those reasons, I
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  Speaker 2: got the Georgia Bulldall sitting there at number six.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, look, Georgia is somebody that you have to continue
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  Speaker 6: to respect. It doesn't really matter, you know, who they
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  Speaker 6: start over with at really any position because of what
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  Speaker 6: Kirby Smart has built there. Now, this team right here
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  Speaker 6: has got more question marks than they certainly have had
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  Speaker 6: in the past, and you laid out some of those,
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  Speaker 6: like even a Zachariah Branch. We have heard so many
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  Speaker 6: times how good Zachariah Branch was and we just haven't.
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  Speaker 5: Seen it on the field.
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  Speaker 6: And it's like, how dare you say that Zachariat Branch
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  Speaker 6: isn't the top transfer in the SEC. It's I guess
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  Speaker 6: he had five hundred yards receiving last year, which is solid,
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  Speaker 6: but it's not game changing in his career. He's only
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  Speaker 6: got a little bit over eight hundred yards receiving, and
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  Speaker 6: so like Georgia is banking on Zachariah Branch finally living
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  Speaker 6: up to all the hype that everybody's built him up
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  Speaker 6: to be coming over from USC and the thing is
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  Speaker 6: they have to have him be that guy. They really
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  Speaker 6: struggled last year with weapons with Carson Beck like receiver.
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  Speaker 6: The running backs were good, but they weren't as good
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  Speaker 6: as they've typically been. Now Georgia's really set a standard
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  Speaker 6: at running back, but the weapons were a real issue.
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  Speaker 6: So you go get Zachariah Branch, you go get Noah
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  Speaker 6: Thomas from Texas A and m another five hundred yard receiver,
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  Speaker 6: but they.
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  Speaker 5: Need a receiver one.
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  Speaker 6: They need somebody to go take that and be close
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  Speaker 6: to a thousand yard receiver if Georgia wants to get
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  Speaker 6: back to the National Championship.
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  Speaker 5: Conversation.
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  Speaker 6: I like Nate Frasier running back, but you can't do
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  Speaker 6: it anymore just running the football, even if you do
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  Speaker 6: play great defense like Georgia, in a new playoff, you're
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  Speaker 6: going to come up with a team that is going
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  Speaker 6: to score points and can you keep up with them?
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  Speaker 5: Now?
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  Speaker 6: I said it the other day when we were breaking
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  Speaker 6: down Notre Dame, who is our number seven team. Notre
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  Speaker 6: Dame brought the fight to Georgia. They were the more
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  Speaker 6: physical football team. That doesn't happen to Georgia, but it
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  Speaker 6: did that day in the Superdome, and so they got
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  Speaker 6: to get back to having that, Hey we're Georgia, We're
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  Speaker 6: going to strike fear in ours because last time out
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  Speaker 6: they got big boy.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Georgia seems like the team that is just they're
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  Speaker 8: just old, old faithful, just trust the SEC. Hard knows
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  Speaker 8: they're going to kind of look and emulate that classic
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  Speaker 8: SEC style football team. Really good bigs, good defense. They're
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  Speaker 8: going to hold you to some low scoring games and
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  Speaker 8: just be a scrappy bunch that's gonna be a hard beat.
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  Speaker 8: And you know, Kirby Smart has, like Taylor said, has
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  Speaker 8: earned the benefit of the doubt on everything. They're gonna
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  Speaker 8: be a really good football team. I am not real
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  Speaker 8: high on Gunner Stockton as of right now at the
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  Speaker 8: quarterback position. I think they're gonna lack the fire power
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  Speaker 8: power at quarterback and receiver this year to make a
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  Speaker 8: run to a championship. So I like the spot being
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  Speaker 8: at six because they're gonna be really good. They're gonna
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  Speaker 8: be in the playoffs. But how far can Stockton take them?
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  Speaker 8: That remains to be seen. And I don't think he
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  Speaker 8: did anything last year to prove to me that he
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  Speaker 8: is going to be an SEC championship, a national championship
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  Speaker 8: calib caliber, full time starter for them.
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  Speaker 7: We'll see, though, that remains to be seen. He was
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  Speaker 7: a young guy.
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  Speaker 8: He can make a lot of improvements, and he did
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  Speaker 8: a lot of things really well off schedule, but it
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  Speaker 8: all kind of looked hard. But that he did it
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  Speaker 8: last year just it just looked difficult. It didn't look
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  Speaker 8: like it was plays that could be sustained over the
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  Speaker 8: length of a season, weekend week out on the SEC
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  Speaker 8: schedule and into the playoffs. So I looked to them
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  Speaker 8: to be very incredibly good, incredibly talented, dangerous. Is gonna
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  Speaker 8: win a lot of games. They're gonna win, you know,
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  Speaker 8: it'll be a ten, probably a ten plus maybe so,
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  Speaker 8: but I like to pick at six. I don't think
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  Speaker 8: they got that firepower to make a big playoff run.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned that because, like, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I've in the hairline, but I found out I was
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  Speaker 2: doing six. It's like Okay, here's where I'm putting Penn State.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not nearly as high on them as everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: I was looking at their weapons like I can't do it,
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  Speaker 2: especially running back, like they got the best duo in
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  Speaker 2: the country.
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  Speaker 1: And I get that we in this.
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  Speaker 2: Room are not as high on Drew Aller as everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: At least we know what the hell we're gonna get.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot put Georgia higher than six. And he might
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  Speaker 2: turn out to like he might.
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  Speaker 8: Be right now, and we had seen him what I
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  Speaker 8: saw good plays, but it also looked hard like all
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  Speaker 8: the plays he made were like off schedule type. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: off sedle type throws. It wasn't really working an offense,
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  Speaker 8: and that's what you gotta do. It could be consistently good.
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  Speaker 8: Now he's gonna win some games and the talent's gonna
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  Speaker 8: show out. I mean, incredibly high recruit. So he's got
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  Speaker 8: the talent, he's got the skills, and he's gonna win
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  Speaker 8: some games for them.
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  Speaker 7: It can't be consistent enough to take a team like that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be different for the
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  Speaker 5: Georgia Bulldogs. Certainly.
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  Speaker 6: Moose, what do you think about the Georgia Bulldogs coming
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  Speaker 6: in at number six.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, the youth on Georgia this year is really intriguing
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  Speaker 9: to me. I mean, Kirby's smart harped on at a
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  Speaker 9: bunch of SEC media days, and maybe that was just
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  Speaker 9: the talking point that he wanted to get across. But
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  Speaker 9: over fifty percent of their roster is underclassman this year.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 9: They roll in a bunch of recruits and they just
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  Speaker 9: kind of rolled, but they've had a lot more veterans
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  Speaker 9: on that team in recent memory. In this run, break
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  Speaker 9: in a new quarterback with all that youth around, when
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  Speaker 9: I mean Flynn, you were talking about Gunner Stockton where
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  Speaker 9: it's not just like wow stuff from him that is intriguing.
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  Speaker 9: The schedule is tough now they don't have to open
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  Speaker 9: with Clemson again like they did a year ago. But
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  Speaker 9: that was our George's best game they played all year
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  Speaker 9: outside of maybe one of the Texas games.
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  Speaker 4: But when you look at offense.
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  Speaker 9: Defense, the opener was really their best game and it
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  Speaker 9: was kind of just piecing it together from there. So, man,
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  Speaker 9: with all that youth breaking in a new quarterback, this
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  Speaker 9: is gonna be one of Kirby's more challenging teams to
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  Speaker 9: make it all come together quickly.
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  Speaker 4: I think for George, I think they could.
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  Speaker 9: They could end up surprising people late when if they
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  Speaker 9: get in, but it might be some growing pains throughout
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  Speaker 9: the year for the Bulldogs.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Luckily for them, they open up with Marshall at home
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  Speaker 6: and Austin Py at home, and so that gives them
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  Speaker 6: the opportunity for that new that we're talking about maybe
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  Speaker 6: to come together, because then it goes at Tennessee intern Alaba.
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  Speaker 8: Points as you say, like their big two games games,
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  Speaker 8: and they're the biggest road game at tennes City.
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  Speaker 1: This is their only tough road game.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, and who do you say again? They have.
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  Speaker 1: The state of Kentucky and Auburn, but you know, I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean they're now their home opponents Alabama, Old miss Uh,
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  Speaker 6: Florida's and Jacksonville of course, and then Texas, so they
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  Speaker 6: got tough opponents, but none of them are at an
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  Speaker 6: opposing state.
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  Speaker 2: And then the Georgia Tech game we talked about moved
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  Speaker 2: from Georgia Tech to that's not a true road game.
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  Speaker 6: That should be God, I know you want some more money,
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  Speaker 6: but now it's going to be eighty twenty Georgia fans
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  Speaker 6: that should be in lobby.
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  Speaker 7: God, we talked about it earlier.
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  Speaker 5: I heard something like some crazy stats.
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  Speaker 6: I mean millions they're getting for moving that game to Mercedes,
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  Speaker 6: And I get it.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot.
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  Speaker 5: It's like it's like twelve million.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, like twelve million bucks to move that game. I
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  Speaker 6: get it. I get it. But I just know it's
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  Speaker 6: going to be an away game for you. That's supposed
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  Speaker 6: to be a home game. It's in your city, but
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  Speaker 6: Athens is down the road and it's gonna be eighty twenty,
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  Speaker 6: So come on, brient key.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know, man, I gotta still on the Uh,
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  Speaker 8: Georgia Tech fan base is gonna show out this year.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not saying it's a bad fan base, but when
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  Speaker 6: Georgia plays in Atlanta, it doesn't matter if they're playing.
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  Speaker 5: Texas, Alabama, l s U, whoever.
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  Speaker 6: Those fans traveled, But it's an hour down the road
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  Speaker 6: from your campus, and half of Atlanta is Georgia fans.
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  Speaker 5: I'd say eighty's the.
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  Speaker 7: Biggest Georgia Tech donor. It needs to buy off the tickets.
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  Speaker 5: It's an engineering school, right, Yeah, gotta.
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  Speaker 7: Be a biggie you gotta be a big one of them,
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  Speaker 7: all right, Man.
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  Speaker 9: They went into Sanford Stadium last year and almost came
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  Speaker 9: up with the victory. Yeah, I don't think there'd be
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  Speaker 9: you know, intimidated by eighty twenty and Mercedes Benz.
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  Speaker 5: That canna be intimidated.
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  Speaker 6: Because if there is a group of meatthads and college
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  Speaker 6: footbri teams intimidated, is Georgia Tech. I mean, Haynes King
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  Speaker 6: ain't gonna care. I'm just saying, like you lost a
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  Speaker 6: valuable home game. I think Georgia.
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  Speaker 7: Tech's gonna win. Though one they're making a playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: I would love for them to make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 8: They would go against our top twenty five, which I'm
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  Speaker 8: still mad at you about.
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  Speaker 5: But me, you put him at twenty two. The AP
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  Speaker 5: and the coaches didn't even put him in that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were not.
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  Speaker 5: Higher than anybody.
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  Speaker 6: Gave Georgia Tech thirty seven and a half million dollars
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  Speaker 6: in his will.
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  Speaker 5: That is one of the largest private gifts ever received
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  Speaker 5: by the school.
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  Speaker 4: That's strong.
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  Speaker 9: But it was in his will, so I mean he's
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  Speaker 6: head head football team.
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  Speaker 8: And it's even perfect, like in a terrible field. I'm on, Ireland,
• 15:57
  Speaker 8: what are we doing? I blame you Ireland. The whole
• 15:59
  Speaker 8: country also a better field.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: We get some better paint in Ireland before, even before
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: it started raining, you could barely read that crap and
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: then it happened last year.
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: It's like that.
• 16:10
  Speaker 8: That's what I was gonna say. It's like the child
• 16:12
  Speaker 8: proof type paint. It kind of watches the ways they
• 16:14
  Speaker 8: follow it, like you touch it. And that's exactly right.
• 16:18
  Speaker 8: They were just playing on the park. Got a bad park.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: That field has never been good. It hasn't like ever.
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: Just yeah, it's not made for for athletes that size,
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: you know that meant for three hundred pounders putting those
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: in the grass, athletic powerful quick people.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Is that a soccer thing though, because like I noticed,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: like I'll watch like every time I watch soccer, like
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: fields faded.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: It's not like crisp white lines or anything like.
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: That, Like oh, Taylor, it's a pitch actually it is.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: Bitch Yeah, stretch actually that's what they call them.
• 16:55
  Speaker 8: Strip up the boots while wearing kits. Soccer is objectively dumb,
• 17:03
  Speaker 8: says from the guy that watches people riding bicycles for
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: a month long.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: Everybody in the world knows how to ride a bike.
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: I guess everybody can't kick a soccer ball is that
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: as easy. It is just kick and not everybody knows
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: how to ride a bike.
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: Who doesn't.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: There's plenty of.
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: Roy ktt didn't know. Roy Kat didn't he didn't know.
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: It's fair, great point soccer player can't trust them.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: Like, I'm okay with you making fun of soccer if
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: you didn't sit there for a month and watch people
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: riding bikes on your laptop.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: In the show during the show, I mean that that
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: that's it's fan.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: You're making fun of kids and boots when the people
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: that you were watching were wearing like singlets, spandex, which
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: is fine because I'm not going.
• 17:46
  Speaker 8: But the little toddap I gotchas didn't go. Those dudes
• 17:54
  Speaker 8: like thousands of miles over a three week period of time.
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: All your guys do is fake injured m cool these
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: guys riding down mountains. It's only the most pocketage you
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: kidding me, gradial collar bones in the world.
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're elitist. Bikes and how much of those bikes cost?
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: Probably a lot. Yeah, to play soccer you need a
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: ball and some chalk to draw some goals.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: On the wall.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: How much of those boots cost? You don't have to
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: have them?
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: Oh you also have to have, like, you know, hundreds
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: of millions of dollars to play your pay your players
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: that just sit there, fake injuries, kick a ball, maybe
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: score a goal every seventeen games.
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: That's fun.
• 18:31
  Speaker 8: Eighting devensive sport bud. Yeah, oh, Bill Mills, let's tie.
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: Oh good game, we tied. That was fun.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: How many points could we get? One called to draw
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: at one point? Yep.
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: Hopefully you don't get relegated, at least in the bikes
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: that are at least racing downhills mountains.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: Ever heard of the Alps. You're not going to convince
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: me that cycling's cooler. I'm not saying all a cycling,
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: just that one, just that one race.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, we will How do we get here?
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: Oh because the pitch, the pitch, the farm again the
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: great football game that you turned it into something else. Anyways,
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: but this seems pretty good. Both those quarterback's pretty good too.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: Rock Obec. We talked about it, like the ceiling is
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: not incredibly incredibly high, but he and I hate it
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: because this player played for the same school and we
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: fall into these He's got like some rock party in him, though,
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: like he's never going to swow you. But man, he's
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: gonna get it done. It's going to be efficient when
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: the game's on the line. Like rock Obec he like
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: he didn't he didn't stray from the game plan, like
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: he didn't try to do too much. He played within
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: the system like it was a fun game to watch.
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: And then look I to Kansas State went for it
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: on their twenty nine.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: I know that.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: My boy Dusty, the void check on the call, didn't
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: like it. I'm like, look, you got to you got
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: a running quarterback, they're up three. You've gotten to the
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: point where you can't stop them, like I was.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: They had found something.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: About six and a half left.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I even like the play call. Just the safety
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: made a great play. He filled the hole. He hit
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: your quarterback. Your quarterback fell short. They went scored. Now
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: you went and scored, and then you had a chance.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: You still had a chance. All he had to do
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: was stop him. You brought pressure. I always stayed Again
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: their quarterback, you saw him, he was putting everybody up.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: He right before the play, he says something to the back,
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: which I think you put him on a free release.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: So they bring the pressure. Here comes a free rusher
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: right over his head. I'd love to see it well
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: down on the one.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: And thankfully if you had the under, which that was
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: my pontoon parlay pick, he didn't score.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: He got to the one.
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, So that so how fitting is it that everybody's
• 20:42
  Speaker 8: been like dying for football to come back, and then
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: the first game out of the gate for college football
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: there's an extremely bad beat forever be so extremely So
• 20:55
  Speaker 8: that was like deep that like from a coaching and
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: a player's point of view, the absolute right thing to
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: do is to take a knee on the one inch line.
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: Like that's what you forgot the game? Any Like everybody
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: players score, score, score, first of all, it gets reviewed, yeah,
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: and it comes back no attest als. So like you
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: got people celebrating what what great fitting way, and it's like, hey, betters, did.
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: You miss it? Did you?
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: You missed that fielding So losing right at the last
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: minute on the pontoon parlay.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: So I had that, I had the under I hit, we.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Went to and two I hit as well. I know,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Whaii plus two and or minus two and a half
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: they won by three.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Yep, they did. Uh you had the under in UNLV
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: and they went way over. Yeah, yeah, that was a
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: good game.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Thirty eight thirty one, which yeah, and then.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: A logi at Presno State.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, covering the thirteen and they do they.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Got blown out? Yeah okay.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: And two you know if you would have stayed with
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: your original pick and one, Matt, I.
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: Know sure, although you didn't pay attention to us at all,
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: So I didn't pay attention to all at all. I
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: would mention one thing from the Kansas State game. Did
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: yell c Kansas State quarterback Everyon's father and older brother
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: get in a fist fight?
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, right outside the game?
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Whoa lay it in a puddle too?
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: A puddle nasty fight.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: They were just embracing Ireland.
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: That's it.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's very Irish things.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I get it. One too many Guinness. All right,
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: we're longing for a break. Well, I know you can't
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: do that anymore. We'll take that break and when we
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: come back, as I mentioned, we will get now to
• 22:23
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• 22:26
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  Speaker 6: All right, welcome back in OTB one four five ESPN
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  Speaker 6: bet Rouge. The New Orance Saints played another preseason game
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: and they did not score again touchdown wise in the
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: first half, and they lost twenty eight to nineteen. A
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: little troublesome? Is it a little troublesome? It's not great,
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: Bob oh Man.
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: I'm watching that game and I'm sitting there and I'm like,
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: all right, I gotta I need to watch this. I
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: need to come up with good talking points on this
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: quarterback battle. And I'm sitting there, I'm watching like the
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: game ended. I'm like, I got nothing. I don't I
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: got really nothing to both quarterbacks. Fine, y'all are working there, y'all.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Y'all listen.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: The quarterbacks actually are not the issue, like Flyn's been
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: trying to tell you, Like, am I saying that you've
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: got Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: No, I'm not.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: But the operation of it is actually on schedule, like
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: the operation of it getting in and now the huddle,
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: getting the right checks, making the right read.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: Like there's so much good in there.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: Now. I'm not gonna sit here and lie to you
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: and tell you that the ceiling is incredibly high, But
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: I don't think the floor is is low.
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: As nobody knows what the ceiling really is, right, because you're.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: Not gonna know, like you you aren't gonna I.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Don't think they're going to be generational.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: But like, my whole point in saying that, and you're right,
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: but my whole point is, like, the floor is not
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: as low as people think.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: No, Like when you watch the like just go watch
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: the tape.
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: When there's struggles with the New Orleans Saints offense, I
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: don't circle the quarterback position very often with the negative plays. No,
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: they have a real issue in the interior of their
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: offensive line. We've talked about it to nauseum. We've talked
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: about it, but it's still there and it's not going away,
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: and I just don't understand how it's gotten so poor.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: Caesar Ruiz has always been inconsistent, but I don't see
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: the highs anymore. He graded out at forty seven percent
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: this week. You'll no look, we love to go out
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: here in Rhwald Dogs. In PFF grades it's what we do,
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: all right, So we check these often and we kind
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: of will go and we'll see and does it match
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: up with the tape ninety five percent time it does.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: The tape says he played at a forty seven percent,
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: and we're talking about run blocking was a forty five percent.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: Pass protection was a forty nine percent. So he didn't
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: do either one of them well. And you hate to keep,
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: you know, keep picking on the same player over and
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: over again. It's not just him, it's both guard positions.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: But it's got to go so far up from where
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: it's at right now.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: Eric McCoy, who hasn't played, played much better, and he's
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: maybe the best over offensive line been on the team.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: I understand that, but he should be rusty. He played
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: better when you're a young.
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: Quarterback, old quarterback five minutes in or fifteen years, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: it doesn't matter. If you don't have a chance to
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: step up in the pocket with confidence, you're not going
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: to be any good. And look, I didn't play the position,
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: and I can tell you that because as a pass protector,
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: whenever there would be a linebacker through the a gap,
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: I knew, all right.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: I don't just have to win here. I gotta dominate.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: Because if I don't, I'm gonna screw the quarterback because
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: he's not gonna have anywhere to step up. If I've
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: got pressure from the outside, I can find a way
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: to get a throw off. If I've got pressure right
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: now through the A and B gaps, I've gotten nowhere
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: to go. It doesn't matter if you're Lamar Jackson or
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: if you're Peyton Maning. It doesn't matter how athletic you are,
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: and time and time again, and this isn't just in
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: the passing. I'm talking about when you're running the football
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: as well. If a guy comes off the edge, maybe
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: I have a chance. Maybe I can make you miss
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: and I can bounce it to the outside. Again, even
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: running the football, if I've got pressure right now in
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: the middle of the defense, where am I supposed to go?
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: If the guy is doing his job containing on the
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: edge and I've got immediate pressure from the A and
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: B gaps, what am I supposed to do? And so
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: that's why I say, like when you watch the tape,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: the quarterbacks actually are doing everything they're supposed to be
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: doing as far as keeping the team on schedule, the
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: operation of the offense actually has been better than I
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: thought it would be. But if they continue to give
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: up what they're giving up currently in the middle of
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: their offense to the defense, they are not going to
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: be successful and flyint. It's it's so frustrating because you're
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: talking about a first round pick guy that you extended,
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: a guy's had peaks and valleys, but now those peaks
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: are gone and he's living in the valley.
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And.
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: I guess unfortunately for Saints fan likes as far as
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: like shaping this roster, there's so many injuries as well,
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: like he's not going anywhere, Like they're like you, you're
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: kind of stuck with what you got.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: Trevor Penning's not even in, so you're to your third
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: guard on the left.
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: So you're you're you're going to have to bring some
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: people in, and you're gonna have to bring a couple
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: of bodies in that are gonna be released from other teams.
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: And that's that's how the NFL works. It happens all
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: the time.
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: And it's not not to say you're not gonna get
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: somebody good or can be inserted and fit in right away,
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: because you'll probably get somebody good and you probably can.
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: You're gonna get some young up and comers, or you're
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: gonna get some guys that have had really good careers
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: that are a little bit older. But you're gonna have
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: to fill in some gaps on these injuries. And with
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: the people that are playing right now, there's probably not
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: many guys going anywhere because of just the strict numbers,
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: so they're going to have to get better on.
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: The fly.
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: Or as a play caller, play designer, offensive coordinator, like
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: you're gonna have to be great. But I'm watching these
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: games and it's quarterbacks. The big talk, because who is
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: it going to be? Is you're talking about one of
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: thirty two NFL starters that haven't been named, the only
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: team that hasn't named one, and we're talking about an
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: NFL starting quarterback and we haven't named one. And I'm
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: sitting there and I'm trying to watch, and I'm trying
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: to grade, and I'm trying to like find any good
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: nuggets to tell people, and I'm like, I got nothing.
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: Like I'm watching these games and it's a big nothing
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: burger for me watching the quarterbacks and trying to make
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: a decision because they're both going through their reads, they're
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: throwing it to the right person, they're making for the
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: most part, accurate throws. There's just no like, there's no
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: amazing moment that neither one of them had a moment.
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: It's like, oh my god, that's incredible. But in a
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: game and in preseason, you're not gonna get that. You're
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: not going to know a guy as a dude until
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: the fourth quarter of the first game or maybe the
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: second game.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: Maybe their game.
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: How do they play when the nuts are on the line, Like,
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: how do they play when the game is there and
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: you have to make a play.
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: A guy's got to show out.
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: So like they have done everything that has been asked
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: to them, like they maybe maybe if Spencer Rattler hits
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: that skinny post off the off the play action, maybe
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: it's an RPM, the little five step, uh, skinny slant
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: glance route, bangate, whatever you want to call it. If
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: he hits that, maybe that's the Maybe that throw gets
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: him the starting node for week one. If he just
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: hits out on what men and yeah, he sure still
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: should have made the catch, but he should have made
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: a better throw. Then you look, Chuck, he played well,
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: but he made some bad throws.
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: Too.
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: Like it's just there was no knockout blow by either
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: one of them. And that's okay because they they still
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: played within the offense. They played within the system, and
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: they played fine like they're they didn't play.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: That is actually a good word.
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: But like what the the way the protection was. But
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: like the play calling too, we weren't. We weren't pushing,
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  Speaker 8: We weren't throwing punches out there from play like some
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  Speaker 8: some guys like to go out there with their starting
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  Speaker 8: off as play callers and some head coaches philosophy, I'm
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  Speaker 8: gonna go with through my starters and I'm gonna try
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  Speaker 8: to play. I'm gonna try to hit some deep passes
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  Speaker 8: because i want my starters out of there, so we're
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  Speaker 8: either gonna score quick or we're gonna or we're gonna
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  Speaker 8: punt and I'm gonna get my starters out.
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  Speaker 7: We didn't do that.
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  Speaker 8: We tried to work our offense and try to do
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  Speaker 8: try to run as much as we can and get
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  Speaker 8: improvement with the offensive line, hit smaller passes, let them
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  Speaker 8: work through these checkdowns. It just wasn't any pushing the
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  Speaker 8: ball down the field, which is what again it's fine too,
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  Speaker 8: just everything about the quarterback bat up has been fine.
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  Speaker 8: Now you have to make a decision and you got
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  Speaker 8: a roll. So we've been saying that we think Spencer
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: from experience has got but in all honesty, with the
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: offensive line play that we've seen, you're gonna need both
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  Speaker 8: these quarterbacks to play well at times this year. Just gonna,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, it's just factual.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, get your.
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  Speaker 5: Mind right, Jake and so.
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  Speaker 6: And we got some some chatter in the chat that actually, like,
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: I agree with what you're saying, because I do think
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: Tyler Shuck does have like probably the higher ceiling of
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  Speaker 6: what he can do.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe based don't what I mean. I think they both
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  Speaker 7: have highs ceilings.
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  Speaker 8: Like, they both can run, they both have both they
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  Speaker 6: I guess probably just because of where he was drafted in.
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  Speaker 6: Looks the height in the arm.
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  Speaker 5: I get that.
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  Speaker 6: But here's why I've been saying Spencer Ratler is your
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  Speaker 6: starting quarterback because it's going to be so off schedule
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  Speaker 6: with what you have in front of you. And I
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: think for this probably is not fair to Tyler Shuck
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  Speaker 6: because I feel like it's been a very even battle.
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  Speaker 6: But because Spencer Rattler makes better plays when he's off
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  Speaker 6: schedule compared to Tyler Shuck. He might get the starting
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  Speaker 6: job because of that, because look, Spencer Raller dealt with
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: this when he was at South Carolina like he was
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: running for his life, but still would light it up.
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  Speaker 5: I just don't think you're going to get clean pockets
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  Speaker 5: very often.
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  Speaker 6: I think there's going to be chaos, and I think
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  Speaker 6: with that, Spencer Rattler gives you the best opportunity because
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  Speaker 6: he does make plays when he's got to improvise back
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  Speaker 6: there when he doesn't have a clean pocket, better than
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: Tyler Shuk right now. So again it's probably not fair
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: to Tyler Shuck, But in a position battle that's as
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: close as this one is, what's going to be the
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: deciding factor. If I was naming a starting quarterback, it
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: would be the off schedule plays at Spencer Ratler can
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: make because you're going to live off schedule.
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: Tyler Shutt sixty seven percent completion three hundred and thirty
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: three yards, Spencer Rattler seventy percent completion two hundred ninety
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  Speaker 8: five yards. Shuck one TD one interception, Rattler one TD
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  Speaker 8: one interception. Decide YEP I'm going Rattler. I'm going Ratlery too,
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: going to rat that you need him both.
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  Speaker 5: I really like.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: I hate that it's true, I think that, but I
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: do think they're both going to have to play. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: For the Saints.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think it's Spencer Ratler as well.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, he's getting the third preseason start. I think
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: that actually does mean something. He looks like. We'll really
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: get our answer this week when they start to get
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: back out there where the first team reps go. But
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: I mean it's not a lot of experience, but he's
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: got more experience. So I think for the first game,
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: you're gonna run him out there solely on that and
• 35:19
  Speaker 9: we'll see what you got.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, Flynn, you.
• 35:21
  Speaker 9: Were talking about it before the show, before we came
• 35:23
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• 35:28
  Speaker 9: Like it's it's it's they're the same player. They've they've
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  Speaker 9: done the exact same thing. So I guess give me
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  Speaker 5: Hee.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be boring.
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  Speaker 2: I'll go rather for kind of what Yeah, y'all ain't
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: talking about No, I mean, I think missus right, I
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: mean I think starting the.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Third preseason game.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Because look, we've had a few guests on this show
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: that have said, well, it's very evident that Kellen Moore
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: wants Tyler Shark to start, which is.
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  Speaker 1: Why you put him in there for the two minute
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  Speaker 2: My thing is, Okay, if they wanted him to start,
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  Speaker 2: why the hell didn't he start on Sunday or Saturday
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  Speaker 2: or whenever? It was like Spencer Ratler started two out
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: of three of these games. He's worked with the Ones
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  Speaker 2: a lot more in preseason. Like, to me, yeah, it's
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: not like he's outperformed Tyler Shuker been worse than Tyler Shuck.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: But when I look at who has the most experienced
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: who's played with the Ones a lot more in preseason,
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  Speaker 2: it kind of leans towards Spencer Rattler.
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  Speaker 8: Rap back, oh man, and if it's not good, let's
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  Speaker 6: I don't think anybody gives a shuck though. It's guys,
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  Speaker 5: But right now.
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  Speaker 6: It's just it's very vanilla and you haven't seen a
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: lot of different looks. Now, we know Keller Moore is
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: going to give you that. He's got a track record
• 37:01
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• 37:06
  Speaker 6: like right now watching the preseason, I get it. I
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: get while you're upset. I get why. You know there's questions,
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  Speaker 6: there's concerns, Like, I totally understand it.
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  Speaker 5: So h yeah, we gotta go to break.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, they're gonna be fine.
• 37:20
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I'm worried about going to hit the wedge on the
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  Speaker 7: You know, that's a good point.
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  Speaker 6: dam Brody could spin it. Now he could spin it,
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  Speaker 6: but he just the whole team didn't have a lot.
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  Speaker 6: like that's what that probably was their problem and not
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• 41:52
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: But like going from from that to Larry Porter, who
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