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"Below Deck Down Under" Exclusive with Laura Bileskalne: She Rocks the Boat With Her Side of the Story · Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

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  Speaker 1: to Misunderstood. I'm your host, Rachel Yucatel. We've all been
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  Speaker 1: hearing so much about this so-called reality reckoning. Even Vanity
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  Speaker 1: Fair did a huge story about it, but when it
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  Speaker 1: came out, was it huge? There was so much hype
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  Speaker 1: surrounding it, and then I think it really fell flat.
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise, And I don't think they said anything
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  Speaker 1: that was too surprising or shocking, not much we didn't
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  Speaker 1: really know. But today's guest on the pod will definitely
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  Speaker 1: say some things that are going to shock you about
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  Speaker 1: the behind-the-scenes activities on another franchise show on Bravo, Below Deck,
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  Speaker 1: Down Under. Today we have Laura Billis-Galney. She was a
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  Speaker 1: stew on season two of Below Deck, Down Under and
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  Speaker 1: was let go in the middle of production. That's not
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  Speaker 1: an odd occurrence on this franchise. Over the years, the
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  Speaker 1: captains have let others go before, but it was the
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  Speaker 1: circumstances around Laura's firing that made her story unique. Some
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  Speaker 1: might call her a controversial figure. Some think that she
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  Speaker 1: was the villain of the season, but we got a
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  Speaker 1: sit down with her and to learn more about who
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  Speaker 1: she really is as a person and not just a
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  Speaker 1: reality figure that only exists on our screen. In an
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  Speaker 1: exclusive interview, Laura speaks to me about her experience on
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  Speaker 1: the show, what she learned and what she regrets. who
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  Speaker 1: she's spoken to since the show wrapped, and she drops
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  Speaker 1: a bomb on what was really going on behind the
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  Speaker 1: scenes that production didn't show, but they were very well
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  Speaker 1: aware of. Please listen with an open mind and an
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  Speaker 1: open heart to Laura Biliscalne. Laura, thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: for joining me on Misunderstood. It is an honor to
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  Speaker 1: be in person with you today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Of course. So before we start, I just want you
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  Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to clear up any misconceptions of
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  Speaker 1: your opinions on sexual misconduct.
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  Speaker 2: Well, where to even start about misunderstood on this episode?
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  Speaker 2: I do not support sexual misconduct. harassment or anything in
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  Speaker 2: that sense. And I would always protect someone who is
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  Speaker 2: in that position. But I didn't have a chance to
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  Speaker 2: do that because we didn't have that thing happening. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So your stance is that what happened on Below Deck
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  Speaker 1: didn't actually happen the way it was represented.
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  Speaker 2: Right. I do sympathize and empathize with the viewers who
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  Speaker 2: saw it. I saw it myself. It did look bad,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not exactly what happened. And of course, we
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  Speaker 2: could think so many bad things could have happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And fortunately, they didn't. But I think that's where the
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  Speaker 2: attention was really there. Right. What could have happened.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So your version is that there was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of misconceptions about what really happened and the way it
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  Speaker 1: was edited. made it look like something that it necessarily wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what you're here today to kind of clear up.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, good.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so before we get into that, let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about you for a second. Tell me where you grew up,
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  Speaker 1: where you came from.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was born in Latvia, but I have not
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  Speaker 2: lived there for like 13 years, I guess. But that's
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  Speaker 2: my background. That's where I grew up. And I was
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  Speaker 2: born in the year of Latvia separating from communism. So
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  Speaker 2: I guess we still have that trait and some kind
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  Speaker 2: of upbringing. So it was always tough love. And there's
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  Speaker 2: no even like how to say. Like to be sensitive
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  Speaker 2: or being like vulnerable or being soft in a way.
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  Speaker 2: You're like always tough, tough, tough, you know? Got it.
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  Speaker 1: So you come off a little bit colder, I think,
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  Speaker 1: than others.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I do.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm adjusting. Right. But you're saying that it's your
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  Speaker 1: upbringing and where you came from, right? Not that it's
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  Speaker 1: you trying to not empathize with people.
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  Speaker 2: I think I am a very empathizing person, but... I
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  Speaker 2: guess sometimes it doesn't come across like that. I think
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  Speaker 2: like my friends know I'm like that. But yeah, when
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  Speaker 2: I saw that, I was like, actually, once I stopped
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  Speaker 2: the episode and I wrote it, I was like, it
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  Speaker 2: looks bad. I'm so sorry. You know, like I was
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  Speaker 2: not aware of it.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Well, I think that happens to a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: They see themselves on a reality show after the fact
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, wow, I wasn't aware that I could
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  Speaker 1: be like this. So I think that's a common feeling.
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  Speaker 2: That was definitely very entertaining. I was watching myself. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, she's sassy or like, oh, she's funny.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no. She did way too much there.
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  Speaker 2: So for me, it was like seeing completely different person. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting?
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  Speaker 2: It was. And you think the whole show was like
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  Speaker 2: how we experienced that. I'm not talking also just for myself.
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  Speaker 2: I spoke with people after how we experienced that and
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  Speaker 2: how we saw it after was two different shows.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So it was very entertaining to say the least. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll get to that. But what brought you into yachting?
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  Speaker 2: So I had this pop-up restaurant, if we say that word,
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  Speaker 2: in Barcelona called One Table Restaurant. I started seven years
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  Speaker 2: ago when this kind of concept was not really out there.
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  Speaker 2: In Europe, we come a bit later than America. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: here it was already there, but for us it was
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  Speaker 2: something completely new. And it was doing great. I had
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  Speaker 2: rooftop terrace with one table that everybody can book a place.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the evenings it was... a yacht crew.
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  Speaker 2: There were like 12 people from yachts. And I have
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  Speaker 2: absolutely no idea what people do on yachts. Like in Latvia,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have yachts. I don't have no idea of
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  Speaker 2: this concept, what people even... Like if I ask Latvians,
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  Speaker 2: if you see a boat, do you think there's people
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  Speaker 2: actually working there and living there? They're like, no, no idea.
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  Speaker 2: You know, maybe cruise ships, yes, but not the yachts.
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  Speaker 2: So I had no idea. And they saw the way I...
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  Speaker 2: I am the way I work. I have always had
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  Speaker 2: very high standards. And they're like, you should be very
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  Speaker 2: good in yachting.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: What do you guys do there? You know? So that
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  Speaker 2: was kind of interesting evening. And they were like trying
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  Speaker 2: to like, you know, everybody's drinking and they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you should come. You should come for day work. You
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  Speaker 2: should do this and this. You should be a chef there.
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  Speaker 2: You should do that. So they gave me this kind
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  Speaker 2: of idea, but I was so committed to my business.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, sounds nice. It sounds like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: you travel around and make good money and you can
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  Speaker 2: live there and you have all these people you spend
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  Speaker 2: every day with. So I thought it's cool, but I
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  Speaker 2: was very invested in my business. And then maybe like
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  Speaker 2: nearly two years after COVID happened and I couldn't continue
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  Speaker 2: hosting events because you could not have people from different
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  Speaker 2: households being together. And 90% of my business was from
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  Speaker 2: America and the borders were closed. So I was just
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  Speaker 2: there like, what to do? And I was like, what
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  Speaker 2: to do, what to do? Oh, two years ago, these
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  Speaker 2: guys told me about yachts. So I'm like, okay. And
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  Speaker 2: I contacted one of my friends who was a yacht broker.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, you need to do this course and this course.
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  Speaker 2: I did it. And the day I got the certificate,
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  Speaker 2: the same day I got a job. And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: that was easy. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So what was your first job?
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  Speaker 2: It was on actually as well, old fishing vessel. They
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  Speaker 2: are very rare. And that was like on the show.
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  Speaker 2: And the same as my first worst one was renovated
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  Speaker 2: old fishing vessel. What's the name? Menorca. I was not
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  Speaker 2: there for a long time. I changed for better. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's actually how it started. I was a stewardess. I,
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  Speaker 2: that time, didn't dare yet to cook. Now I'm fully
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  Speaker 2: chef for the last couple of years. My last stewardess
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  Speaker 2: experience was on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So now, had you watched Below Deck before?
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  Speaker 2: Before?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, before you even thought about being on the show.
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  Speaker 2: So I do love reality TV. Guilty since age of eight, probably.
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  Speaker 2: But at that time, I didn't know about Below Deck yet.
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  Speaker 2: But it was my friends in California. She called me.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, me and my husband, we're watching the show.
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  Speaker 2: We think you'll be very good at the show. And
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  Speaker 2: And someone else told me, I was like, okay, if
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  Speaker 2: two people tell me about this, okay, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: check it out. And I was looking and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: is it really that stupid? I was like, is it
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  Speaker 2: really like that? And I was like, I want to
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  Speaker 2: go on a show and, you know, clear this out.
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  Speaker 2: I was so wrong. It's not you who is stupid.
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  Speaker 2: They make you like that. So now, like, everybody who
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  Speaker 2: I thought stupid, they're all excused and nobody's stupid.
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  Speaker 1: But did you have to go into the show really
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  Speaker 1: having some skills? Like, did you... have to know what
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  Speaker 1: you were doing and were you really working?
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  Speaker 2: Sure, sure, sure. Because you still need to deliver high
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  Speaker 2: standards for these guests that we have because also this
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  Speaker 2: show will show how the industry is. It's debatable, but.
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  Speaker 1: So that part is real, where you're working and doing
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  Speaker 1: your job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You cannot apply if you do not
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  Speaker 2: have the certification of being on a boat, know about safety,
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  Speaker 2: about medical certificates and experience. No, no. That part is
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  Speaker 2: all real. We come there to work, and the camera's
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  Speaker 2: there to show the outside world how it is to
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  Speaker 2: work on yachts. It's not exactly like it is, but...
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  Speaker 2: They try. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Similar. So how did you actually get on the show?
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  Speaker 2: I saw casting. I was looking for a job that time.
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  Speaker 2: I was in California having some time off. And I saw, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that they're looking for a cast. And I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I will send it because now I'm already watching the show.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, I can do better, you know?
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  Speaker 2: And the same day I had a call. And then
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  Speaker 2: from there, it's a long process. It's a couple of months.
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  Speaker 2: And they want to make sure that people are ready
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  Speaker 2: for that to come. Because I can definitely tell you
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  Speaker 2: it's not for everyone. You need to be very thick-skinned.
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  Speaker 2: Because you go on the show, you need to know
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  Speaker 2: you will have haters. And if you're going to deal
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  Speaker 2: with that, you can't go on the show. And I
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  Speaker 2: knew that's happening.
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  Speaker 1: Did they explain all that to you beforehand? Was that
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  Speaker 1: part of the process?
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  Speaker 2: So we did have a How do you spell it
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  Speaker 2: in English? Psych?
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  Speaker 1: A psych test, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was like around 500 questions. Yeah. Very interesting questions.
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  Speaker 5: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 5: for it?
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  Speaker 3: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
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  Speaker 3: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 5: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
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  Speaker 4: It's Dune ADL.
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  Speaker 2: Where?
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  Speaker 5: Dune ADL.
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  Speaker 4: There's an accent on the E.
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  Speaker 5: Do you mean.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I got it on Dune Deal Cars.
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  Speaker 2: Lyft? Lyft?
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  Speaker 1: Please.
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  Speaker 5: You're going past Kimmage?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: Don't deal cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever thought about being a guy? And I'm like, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Do I even answer it right or wrong, you know?
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  Speaker 2: There are many questions. So I think also for their part,
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  Speaker 2: they need to make sure the person who they take
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  Speaker 2: on is strong and will survive and that can take
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  Speaker 2: things personal. And I think that's how we all were there.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So you did a series of interviews. And I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty amazing, though, that you just submitted an application
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  Speaker 1: and they called you that same day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like they told me after the show, they're like,
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  Speaker 2: we loved you from day one. We knew we're going
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  Speaker 2: to have you from day one because you're like good
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  Speaker 2: asset for TV. And I'm like, yeah, thank you. I
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  Speaker 2: guess I really was a good asset. I really pop
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: your ratings, maybe not in a good way, but like
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  Speaker 2: I send them, you're welcome, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So when they told you you had the part, How,
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  Speaker 1: where did you have to go? How, how did that
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  Speaker 1: go down?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. Actually that time I had, I had a
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  Speaker 2: really good job because I didn't know it was like
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  Speaker 2: four months. Yes. No, like you don't know, you don't
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  Speaker 2: never know. And I was like, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: sit and just wait. Right. I had a really good
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  Speaker 2: job in Fort Lauderdale on a yacht and on a
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  Speaker 2: private house as well. So I had like double, I
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  Speaker 2: was so happy. And I had a call. You have
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  Speaker 2: to be in Australia in two weeks. You were selected.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, but my job, And actually I was thinking
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  Speaker 2: for three days and I was like 50-50. I really,
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  Speaker 2: really wanted to go on a show, but I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I have a good job. Maybe it's not worth it.
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  Speaker 2: And I spoke with some captains. They're like, personally me,
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't take anyone from the show on my boats. Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Right, the things that you're messing up with, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: just the drama, that's how people receive it. Right. And
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: then for the captains, I think it's like, They don't
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: seem that serious because their job is very serious. What
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: they see on TV, it's all the not serious things.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: And also, the crew is not the star, right? So
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: in reality. So in the show, the crew was a
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: big part of the show. It is the show. Whereas
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: in your real life, I would think that your captains
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: are saying, listen, you have to fade into the woodwork.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: You've got to be really good at your job. We
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: don't need to know that you're someone famous. So that's
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: why they wouldn't take somebody on a show, probably.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Also... But just captains don't like people. They think they're
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: not serious about their job who goes on the show.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that. I mean, that makes sense.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: And I was thinking, like, maybe I shouldn't go, I
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: shouldn't go. And then I had a call from production,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: and they were basically begging me. They're like, we want
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: to establish a long-time relationship with you because we see
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: that you are good on cameras. You can talk your mind,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: and you don't have this block with you. That's exactly
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: what people want. They tried to make me understand that
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: that's not my last time. I was like, okay, so
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a long-time thing. So then you
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: imagine my shock when that was stopped.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Right, of course. So how long did they tell you
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: originally you were going to be filming in Australia?
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I think it was nine weeks, if I'm right. Something
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: just before, something about two months.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: And were they paying you?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: They do pay a very small amount.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: So are those tips that you get every week?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Tips we get, tips we get, yes.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: To keep. So that was real. Like at the end
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: of every episode when you see how much the tips are,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: you guys get to keep that.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: But I'm assuming the fee that they're paying you is
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: not equivalent to what you were making in your other job.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Sure. Right. It's not equal to our salaries. Right.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Okay. So now talk to me about the cast that
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you came in to work with. Did you know any
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: of them or had you met any of them before
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you started?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I felt that I know Aisha because I watched... And
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: she'd been on a couple of seasons before. When I
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: saw her, I was so happy. I was like, I
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: love that girl. I can relate to her because she's
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: so bubbly and lovely. She also doesn't have that, how
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: to say, sometimes I say filter or something. She's like,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: you know, out there. And I was like, oh my God,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I love it. I would enjoy to work with her
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: so much. So I was really, really happy. And the others,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I saw Captain Jason and I really wanted to like him.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I desperately wanted to like him, but I didn't get there.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: And we had no relationship, any kind.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Did he stay away from a lot of the cast?
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: He seems like he's not mixed in with the drama, obviously.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: No, he's not. And that's probably a wise thing to do.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: But also, he didn't know exactly what's happening. His ears
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: was Aisha. So it was... she was put in good position,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: whatever she wanted to to go which way she said
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: to Captain Jason and he would take it that way
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: without actually knowing what's happening or actually talking that's what
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I said in the last episode it's not a leadership
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: it's a zero ship for this reason that I thought
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: he should have conversation with that person that's involved, not
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: just have ears with one person.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a good point. I mean, in anything
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: you're in, that makes a lot of sense. So had
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: you talked to anyone who had been on the show before,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: like before you guys started filming? Or did Aisha say
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: to you, here's what to expect, here's what to do? Like,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: did they coach you at all?
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: No, no, it's all surprise. Okay. No, because also we
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: couldn't know who was going to be on the show.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: because they don't want us to talk before. So it's
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: like the shock factor when we come in. It's like, oh,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: you were there, you were there. That's why they kept
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: us in a hotel in separate rooms, and we don't
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: know who is there. And it's like a big surprise.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: And they want to capture that face on camera when
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: you see like, oh, you were there.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Right, right. So tell me about what the first days
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: on the boat and the first days of filming were like.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: How did your relationships get started? What did you think
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: of everybody? How was the workload? What are your thoughts?
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have this... I haven't decided yet is it
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: a problem or is it a good thing. I think
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: everybody's super nice. And then they just like go down.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: My mom always told me, think they are there and
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: then they build up. For me, everybody's lovely. I love everyone.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Everybody's super, super. Everybody's best friends. Oh, that guy's so amazing.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: He's so amazing, you know.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: So you mean you give everybody the benefit of the doubt.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, more than that. Double, triple.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: And then they tend to disappoint you is what you're saying.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, and then I end up hurt. Right.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's something to learn from.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think that happens to a lot
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: of people.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and every time it's like, next time maybe I'll
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: be more careful. No. Because when you meet people, you
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: see the good things about them. I have some amazing crew.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Everything's so amazing. The cabins are so big. The boat
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: is so old.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: So did you feel like, because you're saying you liked
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: everybody at the beginning, obviously this is the first time
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you're being followed by cameras. How many cameras are there?
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Well, you don't... wow there's someone running around with you
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: and then there's there and there and then there when
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: you move and then they move with you that's like
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: kind of creepy I don't know the counts but they're
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: everywhere so if you think you can skip something no
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: you cannot right so everything is yes and I think
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: the first I would say two minutes I was talking
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: about Asia and the camera was just like here like
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: They're not like in the distance. They're like really close.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Because imagine in a boat, there's not much space. Those
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: cameras are big. So they need to be close to you.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Sometimes those corridors are this wide, you know? The first
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: two minutes, I was like, why is it in my face?
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: But after two minutes.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: You forget about it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally forget about it. You don't feel them anymore.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Right. So did you feel like you had to act
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: a certain way or do certain things or be argumentative
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: at all to get more screen time? Did you feel
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: that other people... were behaving certain ways to get screen time?
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Or do you feel like you guys were really being
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: yourselves and just being captured in everyday life?
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I think we were being ourselves. At least I believe so.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I was. Maybe too much.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: for it?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: This exclusive place that Dada's connections with. They have more
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: It's Dune ADL.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Where?
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Dune DL? There's an accent on the E.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: Do you mean.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Yes, I got it on Done Deal Cars.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: Lyft?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Please.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: You're going past Kimmage?
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, Kimmage.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: No.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Done Deal Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: But I think... Yeah, no, I think we were all
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: like authentic selves. Right. I would want to believe that. Okay.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: What was your relationship like with the cast? Go through
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: who was on the boat and what your... you ended
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: up having a relationship with all of them. You interacted
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: with all of them. What were your thoughts on everybody?
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: So my first impression with Aisha was like, she can
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: be my best friend. We can have the same kind
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: of way of working. We were very good. We were good,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: really good. Then when Margot arrived, I was like, oh,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I couldn't wish for a better cabin mate. She was amazing.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: She was so willing to learn. So Aisha, she's mostly
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: with guests and do the important stuff. So she doesn't
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: have time to go to cabins and show the little things.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: So I was always with Margot and she was always
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: so thankful. I learned so much from you. Thank you
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: for showing this. Oh, there's a way of doing this.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: So we are very, very good. I love Margot. And
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: who else are there? Guys, of course, with Luke, you
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: could see in the first episode, we are straight away.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Where are you from? Oh, you're shaking hands. I like it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: We started straight away. There was a moment they were
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: like kind of maybe oh we have such a good
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: time together and i think that's why we kissed not
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: like oh we kissed and then after we're making friends
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: we were friends before they were like we're having such
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: a good time together like oh he's a cool guy
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: and he's like oh she's a cool girl and then
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: we went out and we kissed but there was nothing
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: um romantic in that way right You know, it was
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: so fun. And because we actually really liked each other. Right.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: And you had mentioned to me that he was like
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the closest, you were really close with him the whole time.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: And I'm sad that it was not shown because that's
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: why maybe people have this question. Why did she stand
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: up for him? Because they just hooked up and then
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: he didn't like her or didn't want her. And it's not,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: it wasn't like that.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that way.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: They would just show the things which he did say.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: And we spoke about it after. He's like, I don't
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: even know why I say that. You know, because we
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: both said, we had so many conversations. We have so
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: many jokes and how to say one liners to each
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: other all the time. And we were looking forward to,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: they're going to show that we were like, oh, this, oh, that, oh, this, oh, that,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: but that was not it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So we've all seen the cruise night nights out.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: And, and it seems like it's all about drinking excessively, um, having,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: you know, partying, having a lot of fun. So, you know,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that that's, that became the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the main scandal, right? That people were getting drunk and
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: then it got taken to a different level. But before
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: we get to that scandal, sort of, I just want
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: to address the drinking and the fun and the partying
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: that was going on. How real was that? LILIANA VAZQUEZ-
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: It was real.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I think when we are entertaining guests, we are pouring
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: hundreds of drinks of them during a day. We're like,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I want to have that, but you cannot have it.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: So you are there to fulfill all the needs of
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the guest. And you're also there. You also want to
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: have it. So you kind of postpone your life for
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: those days. You just work, work. Okay, one more day.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: We're going to go out one more day.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: You know, it's build up.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: It's build up. It's build up. And then when we can,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: we're like, I don't know. I would say chickens without head.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like just run. You want everything. Like,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know, teenagers have been kept in the house
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: all the time. How can they finally drink? I actually
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: felt like this. And in normal life, it doesn't happen
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: like that. Right.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: So you had been bottling it up all week, facilitating
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the most fun week for these people on board. And
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: then this is your one or two nights to go
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and let loose and have fun. And so you guys
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: took advantage of that.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And also like the conversation during day, they're mostly
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: about charters. Okay, maybe when we clean in the days
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: in between, then we maybe talk something casual. But that time,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: we can talk whatever we want. So it's like everybody's
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: looking forward to that time. It's like I want to
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: actually get to know you better, not just like how
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: many towels you gave to me, you know? Right. So
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: it's a very exciting moment. And alcohol is there and
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: it's put in front of us.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: So it's like we are encouraged to let loose, maybe
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: say something. You know, I think also they do expect
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: that people hold back something because the camera is around you.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: So when you have alcohol, maybe that world goes a
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: bit away and that's what they want. Right. I understand that.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: It's completely understandable.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Now, they made it seem like you were pursuing the
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: men a lot. What are your thoughts on that?
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Well, it's probably they cannot show completely everything wrong about me.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I can't say that. I saw it and I was like, damn,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: maybe I need to think a little bit about it
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: because I don't want to come across like that.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Meaning you were a little overly aggressive.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Yes. And I didn't realize that. So it was good
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: for me to see it. And I straight away also
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: apologized to Adam. I was like, I wouldn't like that
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: someone comes to me like that. You know, just because
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I'm a woman, it doesn't have a difference. But in
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: that matter, they also exaggerated that because he came to
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: me the same way. Not the same way, but like.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, same amount of interest.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: He made you feel like your advances weren't overly aggressive
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: like the show made it seem.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: And also, there was two times, two times I came
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: to him and I asked, Adam, am I too much
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: for you? I was actually giving him the opportunity saying like,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: you know, yes, or anything.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: But he's this, let's say, kind, polite guy. He probably
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: didn't want to upset me. Mm-hmm. But I was like,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: don't be a... I come with a question. I understand
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: it's sometimes hard for yourself to go to the person
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: and be like, okay, I have a problem with you.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: But if I come to you, open up a question.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I'm giving you an opportunity to say yes or no.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: And you don't take that twice?
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: But you're saying he's a nice guy. Maybe he felt
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: like he didn't want to be confrontational. And I mean,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: it did look like you were overly aggressive sexually towards him.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: And then later on, he does this confessional where... you know,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a couple times saying that this was too much.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I understand him.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're hearing that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: But that was not the... the show. That was after.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: So that was already a thing, and he needed to
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: comment on it. Right. And I get it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: So you think that they kind of steered him and said, listen,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on why she was so aggressive?
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Me and Adam, we never had a problem. Also, after
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the show, we spoke, and I said, like, sorry, it
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: looks so bad. He's like, don't worry about it. It's like, oh, fine, and...
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: And we are good. We don't talk to him that much,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: but I did message him. He did answer. He's like,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: no worries. Apologies accepted. Like, it's not a big deal,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of thing. And I think I learned
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: from that more than Adam was. I learned from it
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: more than Adam was suffering from the situation. He wasn't
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: suffering that much. I learned from it. I was like,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't have, like, come that strong on someone. But
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: it was also put in a different perspective about a
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: jacuzzi situation where I asked him. He had back pain.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: And I was like, I know how to do like massage.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Do you want massage? And at some point, you can
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: also see that on the episode. He says yes. So
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I had his consent. So I was like, OK, I'm
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: going to help my colleague to have, you know, back massage.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: So we went to his cabin where we go together.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Not like the other situation where someone goes in the
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: cabin unmasked. invited or, you know, non-consensual. Exactly. So we
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: went there together and I didn't even give him a massage.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I did not give him the massage. Okay. I was
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: intent to, but then with different events happening on a boat, unfortunately,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: exactly that time, everybody was asked to go to their
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: own cabins. And it was exactly when I was there.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: So you're saying this scene that we saw where you're
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: on top of him, giving him the massage, It's made
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: to look like, it makes it look like you are
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: giving him an unwanted massage and the producers had to
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: come in and pull you off. Whereas you're saying that's
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: not why they pulled you off. They pulled you off
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: because the incident with Luke and Margot had just happened
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: and producers wanted to lock down everyone in their cabins.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, because they had to get Luke out of the boat.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Nobody's supposed to know that or see it. Right, right.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: So everybody was in, and we were like, what's happening?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Is there some problem? Is there some surprise coming? Or
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: no electricity is not there? Like we had no idea.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: It was just unfortunate that I was exactly that time
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: in Adam's cabin and he did want that massage. Okay.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I just didn't give it to him. So I was
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: all put in like totally different. And I was watching,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I was like, did that really happen? Right. Yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: That's interesting to look back. And also, you guys, admittedly
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: so with everyone, was drinking amounts that are not necessarily
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: normal on a daily basis. So everyone's, you know, their
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: actions were a little different maybe than how they would
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: have been.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: That, yes.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: But also, when you're so overworked and stressed and you
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: feel different with cameras around, that amount in a normal day,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: which is okay for you, the same amount in that
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: situation It's too much. So it's not that we were
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: drinking way more. We were drinking all we can drink. No.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: It was the same amount. Maybe two cocktails, three cocktails.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: You're in constant stress. You cannot be yourself completely the
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: whole time because you do have a camera show. You
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: kind of think all the time a little bit. How
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: do you come across what you say and all these
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: kind of things. Plus, we don't sleep much. So sometimes
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I went to cabin at four o'clock or three o'clock
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: and In the morning, we're there for breakfast service. So
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: we are like overworked, tired. Sometimes I would eat breakfast
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: and not eat until night. So it's like all your
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: body is just like work differently. And then even that
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: one cocktail for you hits like this.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that. OK, let's talk about the shower
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: scene with Luke. That was made to look like you
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: guys went into the shower. You had decided to make
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: out with him that night. Everybody had sort of switched
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: partners a little bit. He first had liked Margo. Then
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, she wasn't giving him the affection
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: he wanted. So he was taking it from you. And
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: you guys go into the shower. I think it's edited
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: to look like you guys had sex.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's a big regret about us that we
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: didn't because everybody thinks that we did anyways. So yeah,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: but no, we didn't.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: You did not.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: We did kiss.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And that was it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: And it was like two minutes or something. I went
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: there to ask him something while we were going. I
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: don't know what it was, but I was, I know,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: in my onesie bikini thing. Yeah, that's it.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: So it was nothing scandalous?
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: No. No, unfortunately. Okay.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: But, you know, then they added it to show how
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you get in bed with him. And you sleep with
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: him that night and you came out of the cabin
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the next morning. Nothing happened.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: No, we just hugged. You know when you were like.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: for it?
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: It's Dune ADL.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Where?
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Dune ADL. There's an accent on the E.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Do you mean.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Yes, I got it on Dune Deal cars.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Lift? Please.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: You're going past Kimmage.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, Kimmage.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: No.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Done deal cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Away from everyone. You want kind of that affection. It's
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: not always romantic or sexual. And we were like, oh,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: let's cuddle. We cuddled, and it was just, it felt
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: so nice to not sleep alone, you know, when you
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: have that. You're away from everyone. We know these people, like,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: for a short amount of time, it's not your real
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: friends or family. And then you get someone close with someone,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: you want that someone to be close. I don't know,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: watch a movie, or like, I don't know, something, you know?
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: I understand.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: That cuddle at night was just, It was innocent. So
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: lovely and very innocent. Yeah.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Okay. I get that. So it's interesting so far how
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you've been explaining things that we have watched that seem
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: so different than what your reality of it.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Imagine me watching it.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing that they seem to harp on a
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: lot was how long it took you to get ready
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: or you were late and you were tired and you
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: were asking Aisha for extra time off or to switch schedules.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I guess it's finally time to talk about it because
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I was not sure I want to talk about it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: But I think it's time. So I found out I
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: was pregnant on the second day of the show and
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I was in shock. That was the first pregnancy for me.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: It was a big shock. I thought I have UTI
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: and I had antibiotics.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: It didn't help.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: And I spoke with the nurse of the show. She
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: gave me a test and then I see this post
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: and I was like, you imagine that shock and I'm
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: in the bathroom. Outside there's camera waiting for me and
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like in shock and crying and I need to
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: go be with guests.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: So you're telling me that the show was actually filming and.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I was finding it out, yeah, and I was
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: in the bathroom and I was like, I need a
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: few minutes to understand what's happening, you know? We're not
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: supposed to touch each other, but I thought this time
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: is like, I need to talk with Aisha. I said,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: can we talk without cameras? And she asked the camera,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: she said, yes, okay. And I told her what's happening
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: because I thought like, she will be the one who
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: can support me the most. She's like, oh, I send
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: my stew for, I don't know, a breakup because she
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: knows what's happening with me. So she will be the
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: one who would have all the rights to know it.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: And I thought so from my protection that it doesn't,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: because I really didn't want someone to find out about it.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: So I told her for this reason and now it
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: was turned. completely different that was hurtful actually that was
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: more hurtful than all the other things because they knew
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: what's happening and the production also knew because I did
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: go to hospital twice and of course I asked them
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: not to show it because I didn't want to explain
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: what's happening but everybody knew I was in hospital and
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: they brought me to hospital so it's They knew. And
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: then they make it look that I am a long
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: time in the bathroom. Maybe I'm like having a miscarriage
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: at that time, you know, and I'm bleeding when I
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: need like 20 minutes just to put myself together to
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: go and dance for this guest, you know?
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Right, right. So how did you handle that situation? Did you,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: you know, did you decide you were going to, you
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: wanted to have the baby and leave the show? Did
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: you decide you, how did that plan out?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: It wasn't the time to have a baby. And I
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: decided to not. it and we had already um.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Appointment for for that so the crew helped you make
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: an appointment.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Uh it was the nurse of the of the boat.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Okay okay and she she helped you decide that week
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: yeah did anyone give you any counseling on no on
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: any of this i mean that must have been so
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: much you said it's the first time you've ever been
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: pregnant i was.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: In a really big shock you cannot even imagine and
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: i felt I felt so bad. I had all the
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: symptoms you can imagine. I had like a sinus and
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I had the morning sickness and I have bloating and
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling nauseous. It's like everything you can imagine. And
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I had to pretend the whole time that I'm good.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: And the tiredness comes like this. You could be like
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: this and you want to fall asleep. And I even
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: refused to take breaks because I was like, I'm fighting this.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I'm strong. Nothing going to break me, you know, like
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do this. So I was putting on
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: that face on the whole time.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: And so what I think is incredible, though, that no
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: one was sitting with you and helping you decide, you know,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: do you want to go home and deal with this?
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Do you want to have some counseling about your, if
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: you want to get an abortion, do you need some
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: counseling that goes along with it? I mean, I think
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: that's pretty incredible.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I think I came across so strong that they didn't
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: think I needed. I see. They were like, do you
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: want to go home? Do you want to talk? I
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: was like, no, I'm fine. I'm this. They said, do
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: you want to sit down? Do you want to take
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: a rest? And I was like, no, I'm going back there.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And after that happened. they're like, should we take you
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: to hospital? I said, no, I'm going on a charter.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I see. So you ended up having a miscarriage, correct?
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: So yeah, we had appointment. It was between charters that
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I should go and do.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: How many days are in between charters, by the way?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Depends. Sometimes it's only one. Sometimes it could be two.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: But no more than that. So we don't get to rest.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: You had an appointment in between the first charter and
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: the second charter. Is that what it was to go
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: get an abortion?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Yes. And we were still on a charter on Monday.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: So that was planned for Wednesday. On Monday morning, I
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: wake up with pain that I cannot explain. And I
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: was bleeding extensively.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Extensively.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Extensively. And I was in pain, so bathroom was the
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: only safe place I could be. And I wrote the
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: nurse straight away. I was like, okay, we don't need
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: that appointment because this is happening now. She's like, oh,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I can come get you and we can go to
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: the hospital. And now we did. And it was so
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: long waiting lines, like, because it's like walk-in. And they say,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: we don't know how long you're going to wait. And
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I say, I'm leaving. They said, you can't leave. Because
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: the doctors has asked you to be here. And if
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: you need to sign a paper that it's on your
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: own risk that you leave because we are accountable for
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: you now. You're in hospital. You came here with your situation.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: We have to check you before you leave. And I said,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: my charter is coming. I have to go. Everybody disagreed
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: with me. They said I need to stay in hospital.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: I signed the paper. I went. And the nurse said, like,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: please go back. I said, no, drive me back to
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: the boat.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And when I'm like that, and they knew it,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: and still make me look that I'm making long time
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: in a bathroom, I don't even use makeup. That's why
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: people like having these memes. Oh, she went in looking
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: the same, came out the same, you know? And I
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: was like, probably even less because I probably cried and
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: my mascara was less than I went in, you know?
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: But that was my only safe place where I could be.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: So besides Aisha, did the rest of the crew know
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: what was going on? No. So they did not?
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: No.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: So was she off camera at least sensitive to what
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: you were going through? Or was anyone sensitive to what
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: you were going through?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Since she was the only one who knew to It
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: only was her. Yeah, she was. She was like, she
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: was the one who said, do you want to go home? Yeah.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: And I said, no, I'm fine. Okay. Yeah.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: So you felt like you got some support or someone
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: being friendly to you, even though it seems like you
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: didn't want to talk about it.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think she and the main producer as well.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: We had little girls meeting and she was there for me. Okay.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: So the producers knew, not just the.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: But I thought the more I'd be like, oh, I
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: feel so bad. I try not to tell that I
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: feel so bad because they'll be like, oh, we need
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: to dismiss her.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I see, yeah. You didn't want to lose your opportunity.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: So even if I was bad, I was like, I'm fine,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. I just need like
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: 20 minutes in the bathroom, you know.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: And did they ask you if you could put this
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: on camera at all?
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: No, I asked them from the beginning, can this be
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: like private? And they straight away said, yes, sure.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Got it, okay.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: They didn't ever ask me. So.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people now hearing this are
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: going to say, well, but I watched her get wasted
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: with the rest of the crew. Explain the timeline of that.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: The first time I went out when I was pregnant,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: you could see me walking inside the boat and going
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: straight to my cabin bed. I didn't party with them.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: And that time, I already knew I'm not going to
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: have any baby. So I was like, I'm going to
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: have a drink, you know? Because I knew.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: So you knew, but you didn't get as wasted as
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: you did later on in the season.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The last time, well, maybe that's something to learn from.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I don't want to look like that. That was not
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: a proud moment to lose something like my eyes. I
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: don't want to look like that. So it was actually
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: good to see. I could learn from it. Right.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Just to end on the subject of the abortion, though,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: were you ever cleared? Did you find out you were okay?
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: The baby, you had had an official miscarriage, and you
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: were no longer pregnant, and then you just moved on?
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: So they handled that for you?
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did help me with that.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, so even though you didn't stay at the doctors
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: at the hospital?
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I went later.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: You did, okay.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I think on my own, yeah.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right. And are you okay now?
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. Okay.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: All right, so let's move on from that for a second.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the timeline of when everyone returns to
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the boat the night that this whole scandal. The night
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: of the big scandal.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I need a drink for this.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I only have water.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I need a drink for this, too. All right,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: so the timeline gets a little fuzzy. This is in between.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: How many charters have you guys been on now?
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: That one was the third.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: So that is true in the arc of the episode.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like they were very clear of,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: you know, they didn't make that up. This was kind
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: of the beginning of when you guys were there. So
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: lead us through what happens that night.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: What happens that night? I also have some memory loss
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: from that night, right? But what happens?
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Well, the biggest point is that everyone was pretty wasted.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, we had a lot of time, a lot of
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: fun in that. I have even like some interesting videos
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: from that dinner. We're all dancing, like, I don't know,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: giving striptease to each other. It was like, it was wild.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: And we come back to the boat and that time
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: was still COVID times. And it was curfew that the
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: restaurants wouldn't open after 11. So production also wanted us to,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: you know, not cut the night at 11. So they
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: just continue the party on the boat. So we are
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: in those taxis that we have to get back. We
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: all agree, let's go to the jacuzzi. Everybody, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: We come to the boat. One wants their noodles. One
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: wants to shower, change, call mom, whatever. So everybody's kind
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: of getting ready for the party. Someone's making a drink.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: And Luke was the first one who already went up,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: because he was ready. He was the most ready, you know?
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: He goes in the jacuzzi, and you can see the scene.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: He's sitting and looking around. Is anyone coming or not?
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: He's like, okay, I'm going to go and check it out.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Because he was just sitting alone. Like, you know, you're
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: in the mood and you're just sitting there alone. It's like, like, post-killer,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: you know. So he goes downstairs and.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: for it?
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: more cars for more dealerships than, like, anywhere else.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: It's Dunaidial.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Where?
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E.
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: Do you mean.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Yes, I got it on Dundiel Cars.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Lyft? Please.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: You're going past Kimaj?
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, Kimaj! No.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Don't deal cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Ask who's coming. We're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're coming.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: And everybody's going up and he's like, where's Margot? He's
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: trying to be like a nice person, not to leave
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: one person behind. Because they just also had a good
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: night that night. They kissed and, you know.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, clarify what you mean by good night. Because up
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: until this point, the viewers have seen that she has
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: kind of torn between... two men, you know, going back
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: and forth and flirting with both. And, you know, there's
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Harry that she likes and that very much likes her.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: And then there's Luke.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: He's such a cute guy.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: And then there's Luke that.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Luke is more interesting for her. Right.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: And more of a catch.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Harry was a very, very, very nice guy.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Sweet guy.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: That's why she said herself, I never go for the
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: good guys. I'm always going for the bad guys. I
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: should maybe change that, but this is how it is.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: But on this night in question... She was getting a
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: lot of attention from Luke, and she was partaking in
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: that attention. Like, they were making out. They were dancing together.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: They were clearly connected that night. And you've mentioned to
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: me before that this is, you know, everybody sort of
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: hooked up with everybody, right?
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, this was like a round robin of stuff.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't, it didn't seem scandalous, right? It was
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: just a lot of kissing, making out.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we actually, we like each other so much. Like,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: all crew, we are so good. Mm-hmm. We were completely
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: different than you see now on cameras. Like, we were
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: so good. I actually didn't know we even have any
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: drama there, except that incident. But, yeah, I also, I
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: really like Margot. I'm not sexually interested in women, but
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I just really like her. We also kissed because, like, oh,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: my God, I'm just so like you, like, you know?
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: You know? And, like, friendly kisses. Right.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Not a makeout, you mean?
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Well, we.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: A little makeout. A little drunk makeout.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, but out of love. Like, girl, I'm so happy
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: you're my roommate. You know, this kind of thing. Right. And, yeah,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: we go back. Luke is there alone. He comes to
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: check on us. He's like, okay, Margot is left. Like,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: where's Margot? Because everybody's already going. So he goes in
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: the cabin. Margot, are you coming? And he sees her sleeping.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: And he asks her, Margot, are you feeling okay? She's like, yes,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: sleepy time. He asks, are you feeling 10 out of 10?
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Or 9 out of 10? She's like, 10, sure. She's
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: talking to him. She feels very good. So he's kind
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: of asking, so are we like continue what we started today?
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Are you coming to the jacuzzi?
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Now, wait, let me stop you here. Do you know
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: this because of what you watched back or you heard
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: this down the hall?
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't hear it. Okay. No, I've spoken to
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Luke and also it's like kind of obvious. Like he... No,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I was down when he was coming and he said
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: he can check on Marco. We all left. We were
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: not there.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: So no one was there?
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: No.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: So he went to... Imagine if all of us, seven
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: or eight, how many we were, we're going and she's
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: left behind. So he kind of wanted to make sure
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: that she doesn't want to join. So he went there.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: I can agree. He could just stand there and wake
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: her up and say, you're going to come. He don't
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: need to come in a bed to ask that question.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: I cannot defend him there. But because I think, OK,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: a few drinks too many and you have this like
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: we have this kind of connection. connection if I'm next
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: to her it's like it's a I don't want to
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: use like bad words not like accepted but like we
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: were close we are in that or of each other
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: so maybe he felt comfortable to laid down to ask her,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: are you okay? Like, he was just, like, worried if
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: she's okay and if she's going to join or if she's, like,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: feeling very sick.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: But I think the question was that he got in
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: bed naked.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: No, he did not.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, explain.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: So he was in jacuzzi. He comes down, like, guy's shorter, like,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: more than our bikinis. It's, like, dripping all wet. He's
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: taking it off and put the towel around him because
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: it's already dripping, you know. So our cabins are just
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: next to each other, and he was like, oh, should I,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: you know, go back to jacuzzi, is it happening, or
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: we are, like, calling night. So he put the towel
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: around and go to check if we are coming. I
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: was not there anymore, and Marco was there. So he
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: goes in the bed, ask her, and then he, as
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: he comes up from the, comes down from the bunk bed,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: the towel is ripped like this. The towel dropped. Unfortunately,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: the towel dropped. And you can see he didn't go
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: in the cabin naked. He had a towel because he
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: was in jacuzzi before.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: But he did get in the bed naked. I think
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: that's where... No, he did not.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: There's a towel around him.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, you mean he got up on the bed with
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: the towel around his waist. I see what you're saying. Now,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: when he got off the bed, the towel kind of
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: slipped down.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: The towel is like, you know, put in like this.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: And he comes down and the towel dropped. Can you
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: imagine being drunk? You have a camera this big in
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: front of you and you're... naked in front.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: So he shut the car. I rewatched it yesterday. And
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I agree with you that it does look like when
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: he's standing there saying, give me a break, dude, or
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: whatever he says, get the fuck out.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: He just wanted to pick up the towel.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: He looked like he was saying, give me a break
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: because you're filming me. Exactly.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Imagine yourself being like, but as naked in front of
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: a big camera.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I did get that. Yes, I did feel like that
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: was believable.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: He was just closing the door to have that one
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: second to lift the, you know. Right. I think everybody's,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: the first reaction of self-protection would be that, I want
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: to cover myself to go out. So he grew up this,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: and he was annoyed because they keep on offering, they're like,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: give me a moment to have the towel. He had
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: no bad intentions to Margot or to anyone, ever. And
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: he was, he took the towel, went in his cabin,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: never came back again. Like, he wasn't, it's intentions. The
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: only intention was like, are you joining us? Are we
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: continuing the party or not? And then the party finished. finished.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: And then it was the whole different story.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Right. So I think that that's where it gets interesting
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: because then it was like a buzzkill, right? He goes
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: into his room. Aisha goes and talks to the captain
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: and says he was so embarrassed of what he did.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: He locked himself in his room. We can see he's
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: just sleeping.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think he locked, I think captain locked him
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: in so he wouldn't leave. I don't think he did.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: So the way that they worded it is that he
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: had locked himself in and his bunkmate had to go
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: sleep elsewhere because he couldn't get in. And, you know,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: it was interesting the way that people categorized it the
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: next morning where Margot said she felt something weird had happened.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I think Aisha had her own issues with sexual harassment
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: in the past that she was triggered by that made
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: her get upset.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Exactly what happened. Margot didn't even remember what happened. She
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: was told what happened.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Aisha came to her and was like, oh, did you
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: know Luke came in your cabinet? And she's like, what?
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Margot had no issue with it, and Margot wouldn't have
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: any issue with it. That was all made for, oh,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: we have opportunity to have this important topic to be
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: spoken about. Let's do it. We don't care about that
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: that would hurt other people. but we can make it bigger.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: We can have attention about it.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Well, you're saying that you guys were close. I mean,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: did anyone besides you, at least on camera, say, well,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, you know, I don't think that was
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: his intention. That sounds crazy.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Nobody had balls to do that because they'll be judged
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: because they're not a part of the bigger group. Oh,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: everybody thinks like that. I should go that way because
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: it's more safe.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: They'll be thinking all the same.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: It's like a peer pressure.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: So what was it about the stance that you took
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: that got you fired?
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Sorry?
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: What was it about how you reacted? Oh, I was like...
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Why did you get let go?
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: I was like, why did that happen? What did he do?
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Without even me knowing what happened, knowing Luke, I know
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: that he didn't have any bad intentions. I was not there,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: first of all. I didn't see it. Second of all,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I didn't have a chance to talk to Luke because
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: he was already sent away. Nobody knows nothing, and they're
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: not going to show anything.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: And even Margot didn't get a chance to talk to Luke, correct?
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: No. And Margot doesn't even know what happened. So in
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: that moment, I know absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing. But I
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: know Luke would not do anything bad. So I was like,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: that's not, I feel it's wrong. It's like, why was
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: he let go? And then they're like, oh, Laura cares
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: about that situation more than she cares about Margot. And
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: it's not true. I care a lot about Margot. I
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: went to her and I asked her, honey, what happened?
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: And she's like, I don't want to talk about it.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, whenever you're ready, let's talk about it.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: And we never did. And then after I was let go,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: I called Luke. I was like, Luke, buddy, tell me
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: why I got fired. So what did you do so
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: bad that I deserve this? I was like, I'm not
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: regretting it. I have a feeling that you didn't do
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: anything bad. He's like, I have no idea. I was like, okay,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: we're going to see. I'm there with you.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Well, that shows you the power of how people behave
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: when they are drinking. If he didn't remember and it
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: got him, you know, he lost his, time on the show.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: He lost his job. I'm sure he's having a difficult
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: time recovering from that stigma.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: He's very strong. He's been my, how to say, supporter
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: and my inspirer of being strong.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Inspiration.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: And not to be caught in the things that people
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: try to project on you. Sure. You need to know
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: who you are and what happened, what actually happened, what
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: could have happened.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: So you're saying that they made a lesson out of
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: this as opposed to the reality that it was... Innocent,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: but it was inappropriate because of people's behavior, because of
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: drinking too much, obviously stepping over boundaries of going into
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: people's rooms that they shouldn't, you know, not having verbal
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: consent when somebody wasn't drunk to even, you know, be
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: next to them when they were trying to sleep. So
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: all these things went down. But in your opinion, would
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: you say that you believe that that is not OK?
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: To have no consent, of course, not OK. Right.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know that even though you like someone,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they don't do bad things.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, for sure. But I think the fact that she
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: was talking to him, if she'll be completely passed out
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: drunk and don't even realize that he's there, she was
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: talking to him, so I thought, like, they're talking.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the issue there is that no means no,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: and even though she wasn't able to say no, You know,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: you could have a really nice date with somebody and
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: then they can rape you, you know, and you can't
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: blame the woman for having a nice date.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Have happened. I know. Have happened in my life.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: But nothing happened. Nothing happened. And I do think.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: He didn't rape and he didn't try to push himself
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: on her or kiss her or anything. Nothing happened. Right.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: And the issue is... They were trying to prevent something
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: from happening if that was going to go down and
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: take that turn. But nobody does know, you know. But
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: you lost your job for supporting him as opposed to
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: the woman in the situation or the victim. I shouldn't
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: even say woman because it can happen either way.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: So if she would be a victim, if he would
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: try something on her, I would 100% be against it
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: and I would do everything with Margot, like for Margot
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: and with Margot. But because he didn't do anything, I
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: couldn't stand about something that might could have happened. Even
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: if he kissed her or something, even that little thing,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: it will be a different story for me. I will
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: be a warrior of the girls.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Okay. When you were called to the bridge by the captain,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: what reason did he give you for letting you go?
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: That crew doesn't feel safe around me, I guess. I
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: didn't actually know why I got fired. I asked him
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: for a year. I had no idea. Okay.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think that is interesting if he
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: said the crew didn't feel safe.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: He said about boundaries. I think he was kind of
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: vaguely touching them, but I didn't really understand. I was like, okay,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: it's not going to happen again. It's good you called
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: me for saying this. So I see a lot of captains,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: they have a problem or issue, they talk. And you're like, oh,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Captain. Not going to happen again. But I
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: didn't have that.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: But that's an interesting perspective. So from their side, they
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: must have seen this aggression towards Adam a little more
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: maybe than you were seeing. Because you're saying that later on,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: when he did the confessional eight months after the show,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: that they kind of exacerbated that and made it look
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: more than it was. But I think the captain was
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: saying at that point.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Captain didn't know. Adam came to Aisha and said, I
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: actually asked him, oh, I see Laura's kind of like,
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: you know, on you. And he's like, yeah, I don't
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: want to tell her. But, you know, so she's like, oh,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: I have one opportunity to let Laura go because she
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: didn't want me there. Because you saw I made her
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: look bad quite a few places because I was right
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: about many things. And it didn't look bad on her.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: So I was not her favorite. Right. I see. She's
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: supposed to be the good one and the liked one.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: But my intention to be good and do the right
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: thing wasn't to be better than her. It was for
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: our department to succeed. And she took it personal. So
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: it wasn't personal. So she went. I actually wanted me out.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: So she went to Jason and be like, oh, we
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: have this problem with Adam. I don't want Laura there.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, okay.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: So after you left the show, what was your relationship
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: with the other crew like?
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, with Serena, good. We have matching tattoos. Oh. Yes.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: I really adore the woman. She's so good at cooking.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: She's an amazing chef. I think her position on the
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: boat is the hardest. I know we all think our
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: positions are the hardest, but I think hers really is.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: I really respect her. We spoke quite often, sending each
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: other like, I'm a chef as well, like, oh, this
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: is a nice lunch you made. You know, these kind
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: of things. And talk a little bit about the show.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: We met up in West Palm. Spent like all day together. Luke,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: of course. As it was on the show, he was
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: my closest person on the show and has been the
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: closest person after the show. Margot, we've been talking a lot.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: She's been apologizing to me that how that all came out.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I have very nice messages from her actually on the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: way here. I was reading them. She's like, I know
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: we come from different backgrounds and I'm not wrong, you're
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: not wrong. It's just different. I'm more sensitive in these
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: kind of things than you are not, but I can't
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: blame you for that because... She said, sometimes I wish
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I had a thick skin like yours, but I'm just
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: this way. And I'm like, I'm sorry that I couldn't
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: sympathize with you because I don't feel it like that.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: It doesn't come from me, but it shouldn't matter. I
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: should ask you how you feel and feel for you.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Because for me, that's nothing, you know? But for other people,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: maybe it's not nothing. So Margot, also very good. And
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: actually Jamie. I didn't get to see her in person,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: but she took my place. And I Couldn't wish for
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: anyone else to finish in my place. She's amazing. Great.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you had relationships with people after the show.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that they turned their back on you.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: It was after the show.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: After it aired. After the show.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: And after it aired, that's a different story.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Because I'm the villain. So it's not going to look
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: good on them to be friends with me. Right. So
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: then that changed. So then only Luke and Jamie left.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: All the rest, gone. Wow. Okay.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: How come Luke has not come out with a public statement?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Wait for it. Okay.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: So you obviously watched the show when it came out.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: You obviously have a different reaction from what you're saying
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: reality is. What do you think is the most misunderstood
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: thing about you?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: That I support rape or sexual assault and that the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: interest in me and Adam was only one-sided. They also
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: didn't see the kiss where he gave it to me.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: I wish they did.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, interesting. How has this changed the trajectory of your
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: career since the show aired?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think it has because I am still with
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  Speaker 2: the same job that I was before it was aired.
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  Speaker 2: My bosses know I'm there. They laugh about it. They
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: know who I am. And they say, of course. I
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: think people actually understand. There's a big part of people
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: that understand and they see through it. I have people
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: messaging me on Instagram. Even last week, you were my
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: favorite on Reload Deck. And I don't even understand. I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: was like, I was portrayed so bad, how can I
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: be your favorite character? And I asked them, why? I
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: have like at least, I don't know how many, but many.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: And I asked them, how, why?
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  Speaker 1: And what was their reason?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: You were so real, you were so sassy, you spoke
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: your mind, you were the only one down on earth,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: you were so real. I think the real was coming
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: up the most.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that you were transparent.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting to watch you.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: So there was no reunion. You never got to tell
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: your story, explain anything or apologize. First of all, why
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't there a reunion?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I think because.
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  Speaker 1: Like if any time to have a reunion, I feel
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: like that would have been a show for everyone to
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: get together and talk.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I think when there will be a reunion, they would
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: actually see that we are not that bad with each other.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: And they'll be like, oh. We made it a big
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: deal and actually it wasn't. That's my guess. I don't know.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: There will be like seeing me and Margot with everyone
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: and be like, oh, but she did something so wrong.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Everybody should not be friends with them, you know? I
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: know that Captain Jason, Aisha, and others spoke with Luke
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: after the show very nicely. I'm so sorry, Luke, you're
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: such a good person. I was so, how to say,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: so unfortunate that this happened. Captain Jason asked him, to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: work with him four months later. If they really thought
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: he did something so wrong, Captain would never ask him
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: to work with him off the show.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, I just think it's very clear in
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: this hour that we've had together that you've really talked
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: about the fact that producers really do a job of editing.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: They're great. They're so good in their job. I mean,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: this is their bread. They are great. Not good for me,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: but they're great. Right, right, right.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Would you ever go back on another reality show?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: It's a good question. I've been asked. So now I'm
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: like thinking. Okay. I'm thinking.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: So we might see you again somewhere?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Somewhere. But I'm thinking.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: You might be on one of those villain shows.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: I think that's what I should do.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: That would be a good booking for you. If you
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: could go back, tell me one thing you would do differently.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Not many, actually. I was myself, but I would drink less. Okay.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: So I have maybe better decisions out of that. And
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: what else? Oh, maybe don't trust so quickly. And then
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: being like, oh, so trust needs to be earned. I
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: gave it away in a split second.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Okay. Where are you working now? You're still working in yachting, yeah?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: I do. I'm actually personal chef for the family I
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: work for. So it's Could be travels, could be their house,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: could be yachts, could... Great.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: And you were happy?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Very happy. Good.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Well, it was such a pleasure to meet you. I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: wish you luck in the future. If people want to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: find you, where can they find you? Like your Instagram?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: They can find me on Instagram, Lbilene.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Spell it.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: L-B-I-L-E-N-E.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, we'll put it up. Okay, great. I really
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: appreciate you being here. I'm thankful that you cleared it up. Oh,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: last question for you. During this whole reality reckoning thing
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: with Bethany talking about how stars on reality TV are
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: edited in a certain way and that's affected their lives,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: has that been something you've been following? Have you reached
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: out to Bethany? Is that something that you feel like
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: you want to get on the bandwagon with?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: I haven't actually, but... Seeing that, I think people really
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: wanted me to be affected by it negatively. And I
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: actually have thanked them all that it made me stronger.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: I realized with all the negativity come my way that
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't, it didn't influence me. And I felt so
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: strong about it. I was like, that's coming my way.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: And I have this in front of me. And I
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: started to feel, I started to love myself even more.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, you're actually awesome. With all the negativity,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: I started to go to gym. I bought roller skates.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: I fell down. I'm twisting my ankle. And started pedal,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: all these things. And I was like, I'm actually very
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: independent and happy with myself. And all that I saw,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: it didn't touch me.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Okay. All right.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Good to know. Well, thank you so much. I hope
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: people reach out to you. I hope people do give
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: you a chance. I think you have explained a lot
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: of things and clarified a lot of things. And I
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: think that is not only good for you to be
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: able to have a voice, but I think it's good
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: for other people to hear and realize that not everything
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: you see on television is reality.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Exactly that. And thank you for having that cleared out
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: and opportunity also for viewers to have that experience.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Okay. Thank you.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:07:21
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• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: for it?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: It's Dunaidial.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Where?
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: Dunaidial.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: There's an accent on the E.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: Do you mean.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: Lift?
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Please.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: Are you going past Kimmage?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, Kimmage.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.