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Hope Valley: 1874 - Episode 4 (Hallmark+) · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Homewark review podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Wendy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a former Homemark hater. On today's episode, we are
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  Speaker 1: discussing the series Hope Valley eighteen seventy four, episode four,
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  Speaker 1: which is currently available to stream on the Hallmark Plus platform.
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  Speaker 1: Hope Valley episode one is available for free on Hallmark
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's right, I had forgotten all about that.
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  Speaker 2: That drops in May.
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  Speaker 1: We have Lacey's new series. I imagine we'll see something
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  Speaker 1: Side note, Yeah, if you don't know, Girls Gone, Hallmark
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  Speaker 1: has a book club and we are doing Lacey's new
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  Speaker 1: serie Paris is always a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really curious to see how they're gonna homemarkify that.
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  Speaker 2: There are some parts, right, yeah, pretty easily.
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  Speaker 1: But there are some iconic moments in the book that
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm really gonna miss seeing that in
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  Speaker 1: the in the series. Well, and on top of that too,
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  Speaker 1: the lead character Chelsea kind of not likable, not in
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  Speaker 1: the beginning, at the beginning, and I'm like, that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be really interesting to see Lacey take on that kind
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  Speaker 1: of persona. Sure, So anyway, I do like that they
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  Speaker 1: have a full series though, in order for her to
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  Speaker 1: grow on us.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just growth of our twenty minute movies.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, all right, Well let's talk Hope Valley eighteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy four, Episode four with a synopsis. Rebecca applies her
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  Speaker 1: medical knowledge when Nash breaks his leg. Tom inadvertently strikes
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  Speaker 1: a bargain with Rebecca to supply the lumber for the
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  Speaker 1: boarding house. Some quick news and notes about this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Martin Wood returns as director. His other work includes One
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  Speaker 1: Calls The Heart, Sullivan's Crossing, and Virgin River.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be curious to see if he returns for any
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  Speaker 2: additional episodes. This season.
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  Speaker 1: Jennifer Siddle wrote this episode. Her other work includes a
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  Speaker 1: series called The Unstoppable Jinny Garcia, which is about a
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  Speaker 1: teen girl who navigates cancer and normalcy. I tried to
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  Speaker 1: look to see where this show was streaming at because
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  Speaker 1: I was very intrigued. Uh huh, I can't find it anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a Canadian series, but I could not
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  Speaker 1: find it. I'm curious if anybody has seen this show.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have the just watch app I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's my favorite whenever someone's like, where is this streaming?
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  Speaker 1: Because you know, if you google like Bill our girls streaming,
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  Speaker 1: the results are wrong. Yes, so Prime Video, No it's not.
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  Speaker 1: I look there, just watch app A, just watch come
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  Speaker 1: sponsor us. Seriously, this is one of my favorites because
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  Speaker 1: my husband watches a lot of old television and he's
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  Speaker 1: always like, oh, where's the A team streaming?
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  Speaker 2: A team? WHOA?
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  Speaker 1: So let's see if The Unstoppable Jenny Garcia is streaming anywhere?
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  Speaker 2: Not available at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to continue to go way off course
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  Speaker 1: here too. Sarah Drew has a Lifetime movie coming out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, should we review it?
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  Speaker 1: I think we should. I'm such a huge fan of
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  Speaker 1: Sarah Drew, so I just do I just want to
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  Speaker 1: see what what else this is out there?
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Our regular cast returns in this episode with the addition
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  Speaker 1: of Tyler Robert, who plays the other MOUNTI. In my notes,
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  Speaker 1: I was calling them C squared, constant squared, C squared.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Wendy, what was your first impression of this episode
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  Speaker 1: of Hopeblly eighteen seventy four. Well, I texted you something similar.
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  Speaker 1: But Rebecca has officially entered her mc iver era and
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  Speaker 1: I'm annoyed about it. My first impression is they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: regret working Rebecca so hard when they run her ragged
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  Speaker 1: and they don't have her healthcare, food, a teacher, or
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  Speaker 1: a place to live. Freel like, be serious, here, is
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  Speaker 1: anybody capable of anything?
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is what I'm wondering. We'll talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it, okay, Okay, Can I start with
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  Speaker 2: the likes? Yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be clear, I am still in on
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  Speaker 1: this show me do. I am really enjoying it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: really enjoying it.
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  Speaker 2: What is enjoying?
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  Speaker 1: You're so hurry, You're liking it. You're enjoying it. I
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  Speaker 1: think you're trying to add a syllable though that's not there.
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  Speaker 1: I know can end somehow, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, enjoying it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: My husband he came by and he's like, he's asked
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  Speaker 1: this week after week. He's like, is this Hallmark. I'm like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: this is Hallmark, Hallmark pull us. But I'm like it's
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's it's like Little House on the Prairie.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's not bad.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, you don't seem to mean enjoying.
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  Speaker 2: Gone there it is again.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm like, I I do like it. Uh huh,
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  Speaker 1: I do like it. But it was this episode that
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  Speaker 1: I was like, deep sigh, eye roll, I'm just annoyed
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  Speaker 1: by a lot of things in this episode. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it's just because we're it's episode four,
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  Speaker 1: we're kind of mid season ish a little bit, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a transition period or how long
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  Speaker 1: are we literally going to be in the muck here?
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  Speaker 2: Stuck in the muck.
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  Speaker 1: So with that said, I do have some likes, but
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  Speaker 1: I have a quite a few wishes. Okay, quite a
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  Speaker 1: few wishes. Why don't you start with your likes? Tell
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  Speaker 1: me what you well.
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  Speaker 2: I still am enjoying this series as well.
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  Speaker 1: I do have a lot of wishes about this episode,
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  Speaker 1: but I am enjoying the slow burn connection we're seeing
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  Speaker 1: bloom between Tom and Rebecca. It is a very slow burn.
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  Speaker 1: Wendy's making a face. I don't really know what that's about.
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  Speaker 1: You're not liking it. I'm not seen, and I see
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  Speaker 1: some softness happening.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god, I can't.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, I broke a tooth. I think that's I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's affecting my speech.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: They're still a little bit at odds, but they have
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  Speaker 1: dinner together.
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  Speaker 2: She opens up to him.
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  Speaker 1: It's very clear when the Mounty returns, he talks about
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  Speaker 1: coming to live in the boarding house.
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  Speaker 2: I'll talk about that too, And it's clear.
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  Speaker 1: That Tom is Tom knows, he's known from the beginning
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  Speaker 1: something's up. He knows there's more to Rebecca's story, and
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  Speaker 1: he shows genuine concern, in my opinion, about what's going
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  Speaker 1: on there. He does not seem to me to be
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  Speaker 1: worried about what it might be. Okay, he doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: to fear Rebecca. He doesn't seem to think she's a danger.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't seem to think, in my opinion, that it's
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  Speaker 1: problematic that she's here other than the fact that he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't like the Prospectors, and her being here is smoothing
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  Speaker 1: that a little bit, making a way for them to
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  Speaker 1: continue to be here. Correct, But he doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 1: have a problem with Rebecca herself or whatever she's hiding.
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  Speaker 1: He sensed it from the beginning, and I just feel
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  Speaker 1: like when he is like approaches her at the end
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  Speaker 1: of that episode, to me, it seems like he's almost saying, like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm on your side. She still doesn't tell him what's up, right,
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  Speaker 1: She still doesn't even really let on that she's agreeing
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  Speaker 1: with him that something's up.
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  Speaker 2: I just feel like he makes her this beautiful dinner.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a mistake. I think I see it. It's slow,
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  Speaker 2: it is. I'm fine with that.
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  Speaker 1: It would be so weird if they were together at
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  Speaker 1: this point. Oh for sure, I agree. I agree. I
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  Speaker 1: agree with you. Also, I'm so glad that he because
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  Speaker 1: earlier in a few episodes ago, he'd asked about, why
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  Speaker 1: are you worried about the constable being here? Et cetera,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. He presses her again in this episode, like
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  Speaker 1: you just talked about I like it that he's a
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  Speaker 1: little more direct this time, but she does kind of
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  Speaker 1: change the subject. Sure, I'm like, I need more info.
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  Speaker 1: Though at this point she didn't kill so maybe she
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  Speaker 1: did kill somebody, but I doubt it's going that way.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's honestly, I feel like it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: so minor.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be so minor. Look, I feel like the
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  Speaker 1: only reason the constable is zeroed in on Rebecca. The
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  Speaker 1: clarity we get in this episode is that he's bored.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing else for him to do, so now there's
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  Speaker 1: this mystery for him to say. We see him meet
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  Speaker 1: up with his constable buddy and they get to be
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  Speaker 1: cowboys out in the woods. It's a perfect, perfect analogy.
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  Speaker 1: Wrestle this guy to the brown and he gets to
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  Speaker 1: be a part of the action, and he realizes that
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  Speaker 1: other people are having.
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  Speaker 2: A more interesting time of it than he is.
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  Speaker 1: And things in Hope Valley are pretty calm and even,
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  Speaker 1: and there's some infighting, but for the most part, it's
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  Speaker 1: not that hard of a job that he's having, right,
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  Speaker 1: And so we see him kind of yearn for adventure.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the reason he's zeroed in on Rebecca.
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  Speaker 1: This episode gave me the clarity of like, man needs
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  Speaker 1: something to do, he needs he needs a big win,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not going to be catching this trapper who
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  Speaker 1: has stolen goods. This is what This is one of
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  Speaker 1: the most irritating storylines for me. He's digging around where
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing to be dug up.
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  Speaker 2: There's something we know, there's something.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, agree, but also, you're not a detective, dude.
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  Speaker 2: You're there. You like to keep the PI.
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  Speaker 1: You're a rookie. You're there to keep the piece. These
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  Speaker 1: new laws. You just want to make sure that everybody's behaving.
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  Speaker 1: You're not there to solve some crime of the century.
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  Speaker 1: You're super annoyed by that, Okay. But on the flip
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  Speaker 1: side of it, the like I do have is him
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  Speaker 1: telling Rebecca like, oh, I want to, I want to.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be in the boarding house. I drop.
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  Speaker 1: He wants to be closer, he wants to see what's
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  Speaker 1: going on. But I am bothered by it. But I
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  Speaker 1: also want more. It's just it's too slow for me.
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  Speaker 1: This part is too slow for me, Like, give me
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  Speaker 1: some more substantial evidence that he is coming across that
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  Speaker 1: makes him suspicious of her, because just being like a
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  Speaker 1: woman who has come out onto the frontier is not enough.
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  Speaker 1: Then why aren't you looking at Hattie.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but Hattie didn't cross the country.
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  Speaker 1: I get I get it. But I know I was
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  Speaker 1: just trying to make an example.
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  Speaker 2: But now you know, I do think there's something to
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  Speaker 2: look for. I do think.
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  Speaker 1: I do think Rebecca is noticeable. I do think she
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  Speaker 1: stands out. I do think it's interesting. I would be
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  Speaker 1: very curious as to the reason why she felt compelled
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  Speaker 1: to go so far away from home with a child.
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  Speaker 1: Life we see is not easy. I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: my first thought, maybe because he is of the law,
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  Speaker 1: his first.
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  Speaker 2: Thought is like, there must be something nefarious there. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that.
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  Speaker 1: My first thought would be that something back, just something happened.
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  Speaker 1: What is she running from? I'm very curious.
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  Speaker 2: Please do not make me wait until episode eight. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna need some reveals. Agree Agree?
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: What else did you like Benjamin Airs being Benjamin Airs.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: There's there's a little there's a couple like throwaway moments
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  Speaker 1: where he has like those tiny clashes of humor and charm,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: that I love about him. I'm like, there he is, there,
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: he is because he is his character is so oh,
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  Speaker 1: I feel unlike what we've seen from from sure Benjamin Air,
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  Speaker 1: so like when he's trying to sneak in these little
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  Speaker 1: like charming moments, it feels like a little glitter.
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  Speaker 2: I was very nervous we were going to get a
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  Speaker 2: scene with them resetting the bone. In fact, I was.
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  Speaker 1: Watching them assess Nash where he's in a lot of pain,
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  Speaker 1: and I was kind of watching it like I watched
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  Speaker 1: the pit like a little bit through my fingers.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, come on, I don't they skip right past it.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I can't have them like pulling that
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  Speaker 1: bone and have him screaming in agony.
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  Speaker 2: So honestly I was glad. I mean, the pit gets graphic,
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  Speaker 2: I know, I do have to.
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  Speaker 1: Go. Yeah, and then the guy with the rope this
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  Speaker 1: past week, Oh I have to look away. Obviously it
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  Speaker 1: was not nearly that graphic, but they were selling it
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  Speaker 1: to me that he was in pain.
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  Speaker 2: And I you know, when they were looking at his shin.
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  Speaker 2: They don't show it, of course, but they were like
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  Speaker 2: clearly very broken. I could envision what that might look like. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I liked it.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think they were gonna have to take him
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  Speaker 1: out back and put him down? I just thought there
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  Speaker 1: was gonna be this scene like we would get on
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  Speaker 1: the pit of them, like yoinking.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: It in off the directions. Yeah, we didn't get that.
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  Speaker 1: No we didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have any other lights? I do? Okay, go ahead?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know I don't? Oh? Oh, I have you Okay?
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  Speaker 1: We get another look inside Tom's house and it's gorgeous.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: We know that Clayton made his dining table, but there's
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  Speaker 1: art on the wall. It's very warm and inviting. I'm
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  Speaker 1: curious if that's all Tom, if there's some other influence
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  Speaker 1: from his past that we don't know about.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's.
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  Speaker 1: Actually quite nice for this rancher's home on a frontier,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm being honest.
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  Speaker 2: But it is very beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Listener, Wayne's always talking about wanting more grit, and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like we get it in this episode. We see
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  Speaker 1: Rebecca plowing the field in the rain and in the mud.
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  Speaker 1: I'm aware that they could manufacture that level of in
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  Speaker 1: the muck, as it were, but it doesn't. It feels real,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, it's rained on Rebecca. She's wet she's muddy,
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  Speaker 1: and while I'm aware that she didn't plow that entire field,
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  Speaker 1: she is actively trudging through the mud with that plow
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  Speaker 1: in her hands. Bethany joy Lind's was really putting in
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  Speaker 1: the work here. I think it gives new meaning to
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: the term backbreaking work. I have some thoughts about that
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  Speaker 1: scene in my in my wishes, I have one more
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  Speaker 1: little like before we get to those wishes of yours,
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  Speaker 1: and it is I liked seeing the cracks and Lars's
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  Speaker 1: armor here. Life for these prospectors is hard, and in
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  Speaker 1: the weird way, it's nice to be reminded of that
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  Speaker 1: because we see them in the river panning for gold,
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  Speaker 1: and we see them in their camp, but the reality
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  Speaker 1: is they're living in a tent.
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  Speaker 2: It is cold, it is wet. This man has a baby.
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  Speaker 1: Life is hard, and I think sometimes when we just
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  Speaker 1: see them going about the day to day and not
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: talking about the difficulty of it and the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he's like, I'm barely getting by. I liked a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of that reminder. They are eating sardines out of
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  Speaker 1: cans for their meal. I know I no offense to
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  Speaker 1: people who like sardines. I mean, I like a sardine
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  Speaker 1: in a casar solid too, but I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: eat a.
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  Speaker 2: Can of them. No, no, and I just kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Forget the reality of it all. Yeah, And I think
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  Speaker 1: that brought it home, especially with Lars. Lars is really
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  Speaker 1: in the thick of it, and I like Lars and
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  Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him.
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, let's take a click break and won't come
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  Speaker 1: right back with our wishes. All right, let's talk things
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  Speaker 1: we wished for in this episode.
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  Speaker 2: I have a big list. Okay, let's hear it.
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  Speaker 1: My number one wish goes back to Rebecca being the
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  Speaker 1: solution to every single problem and hope Valley. Yes, I
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: have reached my limit. She's teaching, she's feeding everyone, she's
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: potentially going to open a boarding house, she's setting bones,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: she's plowing a field like one, there's not enough hours
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: in the day.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Two.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know how this human is functioning. Sure, I'm
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: just annoyed by this. I'm further annoyed that people are
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: so dying to get Lars and his wife and the
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: baby are so dying to get into this boarding house potentially,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: but they cannot pick up the hammer and help, Like,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: where's the community help? Here like Rebecca's doing everything. Yes
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I did. Lol, though when Hattie's like, oh you're roof
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: caved in. Oh btw, like this was not headline news
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: it was it was like just.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: To add ansel to injury.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: By the way, it was okay, Like you said, Rebecca
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: is everything to everyone in this in this town. What
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: were they doing before she got there? Because they say
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: that the nearest doctor is two hours away. I don't understand.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: What would they have done in another before Rebecca got there.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: You're telling me there wasn't an injury, ranching life on horseback,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: backbreaking work, there weren't injuries or we're.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Needing ten to two. Who would they have called upon
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: in that instance?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: So that's what I need to know. I find it.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I understand. I get like, this is the frontier. This
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: is not a town.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: This is not like you know, you have your bakery
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and your doctor, and I get that. But these seemed
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: to be all very resourceful people, and it seems like
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: we would have needed to find a solution to this
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: problem before Rebecca came riding in. Yeah, how did how
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: did I care remember her name right now? But how
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: did the girl who just had the baby plan to
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: have that baby without Rebecca being there. That's a great question,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you know, like what were we going to do. I'm into,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: like a badass Rebecca being able to do all this stuff,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: but at this point it feels a little bit unbelievable
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I'm into it too, Like I love a strong woman.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I love look she and she and Tom are both
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: so hard headed, but I appreciate it in her.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: She's like, look, I only have me.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: It's my daughter and me against the world, and I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: can't count on anybody else, so I need to be
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: the one to do it. But at the same time,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: she's doing too much, and it's I don't understand why
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: we wasted time using rotten boards to patch up the
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: boarding house, knowing they were going to fail soon anyway,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: they talk about those only had a month or two
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: in them.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Why did we waste the time? Why did we do that?
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Why did we not.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Put our time into something more productive? I understand, okay,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: we needed a roof over our head, a literal roof
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: over our head, but why weren't we going out? Was
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the woman's name Sydney with the bees? What was the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: name with the bees? I can't remember her name? Why
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: weren't we going to her and be like, hey, can
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: we get another one of your wax treated art. It's
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: hard to cover this while I make the money to
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: buy the lumber. Ass can Tom into finally giving me
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the lumber? Call Megan, she's got the ideas.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just and then the whole plowing scene.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, I have a lot of thoughts.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Will you go ahead? I'm annoyed. The theme of this
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: episode is annoyed.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I'm annoyed that Tom let's Rebecca Guess rock Bottom.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Push to literal exhaustion before.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Saying you in, I'll give you the lumber. I can't
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: make sense of this. I know she's stubborn and he's
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: stubborn too, but we had to get all those tears
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: before he offers her some grace for everything she's done
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: for the town shows up and she first of all,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: she treated him medically. Then she treats his right hand
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: man medically.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Has she not proven herself to you? She's showing up for.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Nash and Peggy and their family in other ways as well.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Request yes, uh huh, she's done enough. You don't need
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to put her literally into the mud. I understand that
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: it was her idea. I get that, but I'm not
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: going to give you the lumber because I need it
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to build my fence. That doesn't make any sense, I
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: mean because ultimately he does so obviously that couldn't have been.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I just was like, how did this come to be?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: How did she have to beg him to allow her
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to plow his field in order for him to give
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: her just She's done so much for all.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Of these people.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: My next wish is about Tom's character. Oh, I say
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: this because I love Benjamin Ayers. Right now, I don't
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: understand if Tom is a good guy with a soft
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: center or is he stubborn.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: And emotionally closed off?
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Like pick a lane here?
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Mmmm?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: He seems like a nice guy sometimes sometimes, but also like,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I ugh, are you a good guy? Are you just
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: rough around at what?
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: What? What?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Like? It makes it? It makes him unlikable and I'd
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: love Benjamin Ayers. I know we were talking about an
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: actor versus a character, but like, I am leaning good
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: guy with the soft center, but the stubbornness does rear
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: its head, and I wonder if that's just a result
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: of he's kind of been the guy.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: For so long?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, fair, and I think Rebecca is maybe the first
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: person who has challenged that on any real level, because
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: he has Hattie, who is a strong woman. But Hattie
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: works as a support system. Yeah yeah, Hattie's not working
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: against him. And even though she does supply the Prospectors,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: she also supplies Tom. You know, she's part of She's
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: a necessary part of the town. I think I think
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Tom just doesn't know what to do with Rebecca. I
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: think Rebecca's the first real challenge she's had, and that
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: perhaps the biggest sign that the change that they're experiencing
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: here in Hope Valley is not temporary.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, but I agree He's he's They're both he and
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Rebecca are both so hard headed. Right.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: But to further this conversation, it made me realize, while
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I was watching this episode, I'm like, I don't know
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: any Tom.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Who are you? I don't we don't know anything about Tom,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: right right.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: That's so I was looking at his house and I
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, right that as he'd been
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: alive this whole time.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Nice pick up.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: There's just no backstory. We're several episodes in, we know
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: nothing really about him. Give me something about like how
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I got here. I don't care if it's that conversation
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: between Hattie and Rebecca about like, oh, I know you
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: don't know this about Tom, but blah blah blah blah.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like he was burned before
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: because whatever, I need something to justify the prospect.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: No, I just need.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Something to justify who Tom is, and then maybe I
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: will have a better understanding because right now it's like,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: why are you such a hard ass all the time?
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: But then like it's a little bit he'll show some
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: like softness, but then like he's a jerk again. Here's
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: my next gripe. Watching Olivia fawn over the Constable, I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: cannot stand well.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I had in my notes to ask you, are you
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: team Clayton, our team Constable?
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I'm team Clayton. Yeah, me too, simply because I mean
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: they're both seemingly good guys right now. But you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: we have Vaughn who's like, his name is Vaughn, right?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Is that his last name?
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Von?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Probably it's a Constable. I can't Yes, I think you're right.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: You know, at the end, he comes back and he's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: like telling his big story and she's just so named
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: by it, and I'm just like gross, Yeah, I really
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: love that Rebecca went in and was like, I don't
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: know if this was Rebecca's intent when she's like, Oh,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I need furniture and I'm going to have them work together.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I don't have any idea. I don't have a sense
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: of that at this point.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: But I did like that they were thrown together to
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: work together for that reason. And I liked that the
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Constable kind of leaves looking.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, oh, he's got her for the moment, right
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I don't dislike the Constable at all, me neither, but
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I I had that same thought in that moment of
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: she's so caught up in the romance of his adventurous lifestyle,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and I think there's probably.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: A point at which that gets old. Perhaps, I don't know.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I think this love triangle may play out for a while.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: The reason I think that is we don't watch One
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Calls the Heart. But I do know that Aaron Craco's character,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: her character's been pulled in multiple different directions, and the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: love triangles that all has really divided the fans. Do
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: you think they're just copying paste?
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I wonder it's worked for ten years. I wonder I
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: don't want to do that.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. And I just cannot
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: stand to watch Olivia be like so puppy dog like,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: and then what happened, Oh my god, your mom is
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: like Pattie is like a badass bitch.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, stop it very irritating. Are you ready to
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: talk to you to see that? I am okay.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: When Rebecca shows up to plow the muddy field, Yeah,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: she's in like these bright yellow like what looked like
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: modern rain boots.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Oh like she got a hunter boot on underneath those trousers. Totally.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I like over, Oh they were like yellow. So I
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: had it like Google, I googled were there rubber boots
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy four? They said it wouldn't be like
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: what we know today. You're not throwing it on this
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: like rubber rain boot. They would have been more of
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: like a flap to cover, like a cowboy boot or
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: whatever to protect. She rolls up in like wellies basically,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and they were yellow. There's like no way, there's no way,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: it said, like Google told me it would be like
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: muted colors. Where'd she get those, hattie HATTI just had
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: them in the trading post. Maybe I don't know.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: My other.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Complaint in the digit see that column is the dialogue. Again,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: we have two issues in two issues. Two examples when
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the roof falls in was his face says so many cricket.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I googled Jimmy cricket was not a phrase that would
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: have been used in eighteen seventy four. That came along
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: later in the nineteen hundreds, especially with the rise of Pinocchio.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: They said, like Jimmy cricket would have been liken to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: like Jesus Christ, you know, But in eighteen seventy four
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: in the Frontier would have been like oh my Lord,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: or yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, not Jimmy cricket. The
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: other phrase is when the other Mounty guy said, you
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: really saved my bacon. Oh, yes, that phrase is a
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: twentieth century phrase. Literally, I googled this stuff. I mean,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: this is what Google told me. Now, if there are
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: some like language people out there who say, when doy
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you're wrong, please email me hello at Girls Gone Homework
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: dot com. But I've talked about this for weeks. Like
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: one of my biggest beefs is Rebecca speaks to modern
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: but I can't accept that she's a city gal. Yeah,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're really leaning hard in her talk about
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: it a lot in this episode, right, But I have
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: complained about other sure phrases they've used that would not
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: fit this timeframe. I have a couple tiny little digitsy.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: That's one is Rebecca says I'm going to need some trousers.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: It's giving the same energy as look at me in
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: my pants.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Also, something about Rebecca saying quitning is not an option.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: There's nothing particularly dynamic about that phrase, but it.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Has stuck with me. When she just it felt like, you.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Know, quinning is not an option, feels like one of
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: those phrases like there's no crying in baseball.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: It feels throwaway.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but at the same time, it feels like Rebecca
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: really means it, like that's not a choice that I have.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I have got to survive. And so yes, I am
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: going to be out here, breaking my back in the mud,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: plowing this field. If this is what it's going to
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: take for this stubborn ass man to finally sell me
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the damn lumber. Right, Why can't she like get she
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: has a horse and a wagon, right, Yeah, Why can't
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: she travel to go get someone? It's too expensive and
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: guy was gonna bring it but it's too expensive.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Do you have any other did you see that? Vince?
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I no, okay, I have two questions. Okay, one is
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: kind of a hot take. Oh and I say this lovingly,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: huh oh. But I wonder if Benjamin Ayers is a
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: miscast here.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, tell me why I say more.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Going into this series, I was like, I like when
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: he's funny.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: He's funny.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: He's funny, and I said earlier in this episode, like
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: he has some throwaway lines that is very charming. Maybe
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I just feel like this character of Tom needs to
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: be rougher, lou do you have a vision of who
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: that is?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I can't put my finger on it. Maybe someone a
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: little bit older too, But.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Don't you think he and Bethany Joy are similar in age? Probably?
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know somebody who's just maybe he has Benjamin
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Ayers who is not Tom Moore, but he has daughters
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: similar in age to Bethany joy Lands or to Rebecca's
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: to Sarah.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: And yeah, true, I don't know. I hear you.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: You know, personally, I like Benjamin Air's in this role.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I know, I love funny Benjamin Air's too, love him,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: But I kind of am liking this, this gruff Benjamin Airs.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: And I'm hoping that when we do get the eventual softening,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: that it's that much more rewarding.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, I will hold out, Okay, I will hold out.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: My next question is the airs heads are going to
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: come for you though I'm not trying truly, Please know
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: that it comes from a place of love, because I.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Enjoy him so much.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: As an actor.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I had a person yeah and yeah. So I'm just like,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: is this.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: And it might not be him, it might just be
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: the character yet I have talked about. I'm like, who
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: is this character? So I'm going to give it some
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: more time. I'll definitely give it some more time. My
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: next question before we wrap up is what is one
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: task Rebecca hasn't done yet that she will probably do
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: in the next episode. Oh?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Well, she's the cook, she's the doctor, she's the contractor.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's not panning for gold yet, not yet.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I get her feet what maybe why wouldn't she just
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: go out and give it a chance?
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Right? I was as I was saying that, I was like,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: why isn't she.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's so hard up for some cash, so
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: get out in that river, make your kids go outside
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: in said Sarah down there with Jenny, maybe it's not safe.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: They shouldn't make it more like a dangerous place.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly didn't seem dangerous when Lars was like
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: s living inside and the rocks.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I mean like danger like the people that's drawing too,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Like the prospectors out there are you know, dangerous, dangerous people.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: So you wouldn't let a child go down there, or
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't let a woman down there. Yeah, but that's
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: that's the thing that I don't understand because Lara's wife,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: she's the only woman we see other than that prospector's daughter.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I can't think of. Her name doesn't matter, you know
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: who I'm talking about. There's not a lot of women
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: in the camp, and I wonder.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: How safe it is for them. I don't know. But
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Lar's like this, like real soft, nu good of a human,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: and he has his wife and his baby there, so
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: it can't be. They don't.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: They're certainly not portraying that they're in any sort of
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: danger or that they're in living in fear. That's what
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I think they should though, Like Wayne says, let's let's
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: lean into the grit a little bit more. Yeah, all right,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: thank you for listening to this episode of Girls Gone Hallmark.
• 33:44
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