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Bonus Episode: The Best, Wildest, and Most Unbelievable Jim Morrison Death/Faked Death Theories. · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we
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Speaker 1: like to call the after party. This is the show
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Speaker 1: after the show, the party after the party, the bridge
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Speaker 1: to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to
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Speaker 1: the other. The backyard, to dig into the dirt. Our mission, guys,
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Speaker 1: to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim
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Speaker 1: the story. On this bonus episode, we're diving deeper into
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Speaker 1: the bathtub with Jim Morrison's body and the conspiracy theorists.
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Speaker 1: We're previewing next week's new episode on the Happy Mondays,
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Speaker 1: which is absolutely mad, as they say. Plus we get
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Speaker 1: into your emails, comments, dms, and as always a whole
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Speaker 1: lot of rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed,
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Speaker 1: the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best
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Speaker 1: history is the history that gets buried. Disgrace Lands, where
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Speaker 1: I tell the stories he didn't want told, the kind
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Speaker 1: you'll end up telling someone else. All right, disc goes,
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Speaker 1: Let's get into it, all right, guys. In this week's
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Speaker 1: full episode on the death of Jim Morrison, you might
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Speaker 1: have heard me make mention of the theory that Jim
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Speaker 1: Morrison died at the Rock and Roll Circus nightclub, and
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Speaker 1: not in his Parisian apartment as the official story goes. Here, however,
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Speaker 1: is a clip to refresh your memory. In Paris in
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one, there was a nightclub that Jim Morrison
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Speaker 1: hung out at called the Rock and Roll Circus. It
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Speaker 1: was a hotbed for drug use of all kinds, including heroin.
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Speaker 1: In two thousand and seven, the manager of that club,
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Speaker 1: Sam Bennet, published a book in French only, in which
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Speaker 1: he made the claim that Jim overdosed on heroin that
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Speaker 1: night at the Rock and Roll Circus, and that his
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Speaker 1: body was moved out of the club, back to his
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Speaker 1: apartment and placed in the tug. Conspiracy theorists love this theory,
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Speaker 1: but I don't. First of all, why would they take
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Speaker 1: the body all the way back to Jim's apartment and
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Speaker 1: carefully stage a scene with him in the tub. Why
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Speaker 1: not just take him out of the club and leave
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Speaker 1: the body in the street or in somebody's car or anywhere. Really,
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Speaker 1: why go through all the trouble of having to sneak
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Speaker 1: the body through the streets of Paris into an apartment
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Speaker 1: and then presumably convinced the dead dude's girlfriend to get
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Speaker 1: behind this fantastic lie with you, a lie that would
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Speaker 1: clearly complicate her life. What incentive would Pamela course and
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Speaker 1: have to support this lie? Okay, there is no incentive,
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Speaker 1: and Sam Bennett offers no proof to this theory, rather
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Speaker 1: than his own supposed eye witness testimony and the supposed
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Speaker 1: testimony hearsay. I would say, I'm a few other clubgoers,
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Speaker 1: but there's no physical evidence. There's no corroborating evidence of
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Speaker 1: any sort. You simply have to take these people at
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Speaker 1: their word. It's the same thing as saying I saw
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Speaker 1: Elvis at the supermarket today. Bennett's book was only published
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Speaker 1: in French, that's telling, and it was published by a
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Speaker 1: niche independent publisher. Now I'm not trying to shit on
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Speaker 1: independent publishers. I'm just saying, don't you think if this
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Speaker 1: guy had the goods that a major publishing company would
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Speaker 1: publish his book? Okay, I had a major publishing company
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Speaker 1: publish my book. I have a little bit of experience
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Speaker 1: with what goes into making these claims. Everything I said
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Speaker 1: in disgrace and everything, even things that wasn't even thinking
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Speaker 1: about innocuous, innocuous facts, the facts that I thought were innocuous,
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Speaker 1: I should say, not particularly important to whatever claim I
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Speaker 1: was making. You know, like all of that stuff was
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Speaker 1: vetted and checked by an attorney and I had to
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Speaker 1: back everything up. Okay, Again, Bennett's book was only published
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Speaker 1: in French. It never had an English translated version that
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Speaker 1: was published. Why not? And again it was only published,
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Speaker 1: like I said, by a niche independent publisher, not by
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Speaker 1: a major publishing company. And you know, there's never been
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Speaker 1: an English translation that matters. But there have been a
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Speaker 1: shitload of English speaking conspiracy theorists on TikTok videos repping
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Speaker 1: this theory of Bennett's English AI generated videos on YouTube.
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Speaker 1: I'm so sick. Just side note, I am so sick
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Speaker 1: of these AI voice documentaries, super serious on YouTube with
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Speaker 1: spooky music behind it and then cut down for tickto
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Speaker 1: I'm so I'm so sick of this crap. I cannot wait,
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Speaker 1: can't wait until it gets blown out and it's coming.
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Speaker 1: There's all this fear. Side note, all this fear about
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Speaker 1: AI destroying everything for creatives, and yes, some of that
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Speaker 1: is actually well founded fear. But I do think that
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Speaker 1: there's going to be a reckoning and the cream of
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Speaker 1: the crop is going to rise and this slop will
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Speaker 1: be demoted and relegated to the dark corners of the
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Speaker 1: Internet where it belongs. I think that's coming. I'm positive. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: Like I said, lots of English AI generated videos on
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Speaker 1: this conspiracy theory that are on YouTube, cut down, on
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Speaker 1: TikTok and on Instagram, and there are Reddit threads breathlessly
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Speaker 1: supporting this theory also in English. Sam Bennett made a
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Speaker 1: lot of hay with this Rock and Roll Circus conspiracy
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Speaker 1: theory about Jim Morrison, and all of it with little evidence. Now,
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Speaker 1: his theory again that Jim Morrison died in the toilet
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Speaker 1: at the Rock and Roll Circus and his body was
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Speaker 1: brought back to his apartment and placed in the tub.
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Speaker 1: The theory is possible, I guess, in the sense that
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Speaker 1: anything is possible, and the theory Sam Bennett's theory isn't
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Speaker 1: necessarily disproved by the theory that I believe happened the
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Speaker 1: events that I believe happened, by the theory that I
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Speaker 1: subscribe to that Jim Marrison died from mistakenly taking his
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Speaker 1: girlfriend's heroin supplied by Count Jean de Bertoy. Okay, I guess.
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Speaker 1: I guess Jim could have taken that heroin at the
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Speaker 1: rock and roll circus instead of at his apartment, and
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Speaker 1: that he could have had his body moved back to
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Speaker 1: his apartment. But again, why why would they move the
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Speaker 1: body back to the apartment. Why not just leave them
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Speaker 1: in the street or put the body somewhere else. Theoretically,
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Speaker 1: both theories can be true, That's what I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: get at. But that then pushes the story into the
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Speaker 1: Hollywood studio version of this rock star's death. And that's
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Speaker 1: just a little too fascinating and a little too good
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Speaker 1: to be true, and just too many fantastical things have
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Speaker 1: to have happened in order for all of these pieces
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Speaker 1: to come together into the story that the conspiracy theorists
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Speaker 1: want us to believe. That's the problem with conspiracy theories.
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Speaker 1: They ask too much of us. The theories are always
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Speaker 1: couched in this subtext that all of these secret, duplicitous
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Speaker 1: things are happening in the shadows. Well, some of us
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Speaker 1: have been in those shadows. Some of us have spent
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Speaker 1: countless hours researching what goes on in those shadows. Some
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Speaker 1: of us have spent time with lawyers vetting what we've
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Speaker 1: found in those shadows. Okay, and usually the thing that
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Speaker 1: actually happened is the most obvious thing, not some complicated
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Speaker 1: reordering of events that involve multiple characters all moving in
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Speaker 1: secret together. Conspiracies mostly happen by accident, not by intricate
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Speaker 1: planning and conniving. Events have momentum. People move in unison
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Speaker 1: based on their own incentives, often without each other's knowledge,
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Speaker 1: in certain directions, often the same direction, and oftentimes unexpected
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Speaker 1: things can happen in harmony with each other, and the
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Speaker 1: next thing you know, the president is dead in Dallas.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it doesn't happen. It does happen, but
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Speaker 1: it happens differently from how the conspiracy theorists want us
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Speaker 1: to believe that it happens. I believe that the best
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Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, the ones that are actually true, happen almost
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Speaker 1: by accident and less by design. But this doesn't make
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Speaker 1: the conspiracy theorists or their theories uninteresting. I'm fascinated by them,
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Speaker 1: particularly the more outlandish ones. And when it comes to
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Speaker 1: Jim Morrison, there are many, many, many outlandish and frankly
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Speaker 1: highly entertaining theories about Jim faking his own death. Okay,
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Speaker 1: now I didn't really get into these theories in any detail,
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Speaker 1: in any real detail. Anyways, in the full episode this week,
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Speaker 1: but Zeth and I are going to be discussing in
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Speaker 1: the exclusive section of this after Party today some of
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Speaker 1: the wilder claims about how Jim has spent his time
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Speaker 1: since he faked his death in Paris. Okay, did you
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Speaker 1: know Jim Morrison's maintenance man in New York. It's true,
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Speaker 1: and he wasn't really RUSSELINGBA after all. Turns out he
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Speaker 1: was a cowboy. Is a cowboy, I should say, up
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Speaker 1: in Oregon. He's also living in Tibet as a monk.
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Speaker 1: He's undercover and on the run from the CIA in
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Speaker 1: the Australian outback as well. He gets around Jim Morrison.
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Speaker 1: That's my point. This is one of my favorite ones
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Speaker 1: that the CIA did it. And I'm being sarcastic when
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Speaker 1: I say favorite. I actually hate this one. It cheapens
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Speaker 1: the way in which we should be looking at the CIA,
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Speaker 1: which is we should look at them as one of
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Speaker 1: the most lethal, slimy, dangerous and complicated organizations that the
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Speaker 1: world has ever known. That's another story. But anyways, that
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Speaker 1: and I are going to have some fun with all
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Speaker 1: this in the exclusive section of this after party coming
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Speaker 1: up in this weekend's Disgraceland feed Next after this week's
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Speaker 1: Disgraceland Rewind episode, coming up next Tuesday, our brand new
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Speaker 1: episode on Happy Mondays. This story deals with possibly the wildest, craziest,
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Speaker 1: want to be a rock and roll star? Listen now
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Speaker 1: here what I say. I'm in the phone booth. It's
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Speaker 1: the one across the hall disco. Six one seven nine
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Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight. Last week's question of
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Speaker 1: the week relative to our Disgraceland episode, our Jim Morrison episode,
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Speaker 1: was how do you think that Jim Morrison died? Now
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Speaker 1: on this question, I'm going to turn to you guys
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Speaker 1: on Instagram in some of our more passionate followers more
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Speaker 1: passionate followers of the Jim Morrison death saga. I should say,
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Speaker 1: because well, you know the Internet, it never disappoints. Unknown
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Speaker 1: Assassin seven rites saying, hey, he never died because of Heroin.
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Speaker 1: Matter of fact, his closest friends said he never liked Heroin.
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Speaker 1: Jim Morrison was killed all caps. They feared he was
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Speaker 1: uncontrollably wild, unexpected and rebellious, and so was Jimmy Hendrix.
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Speaker 1: He was killed by his own manager so he can
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Speaker 1: own his music after his death. Speak the truth, all
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Speaker 1: caps well, Unknown Assassin seven, whoever you are, clearly I
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Speaker 1: don't think you're a disgrace Land listener because you would
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Speaker 1: know my thoughts on Jimmy Hendrix and they align kind
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Speaker 1: of with yours. Can't be proven, but I'm kind of
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Speaker 1: there with you on HENDRICKX on Marrison. I think you're
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Speaker 1: out of your mind, and yeah, get back to me.
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Speaker 1: I'd love to continue this conversation. Scarlett one MB believes
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Speaker 1: that Jim Morrison disappeared off into the sunset and that
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Speaker 1: he hated the rock star persona. More miles have been
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Speaker 1: gotten out of this Jim Morrison hating the limelight theory
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Speaker 1: than possibly anything in rock and roll Archie Pointer thinks
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Speaker 1: he was killed and doesn't exactly say why, and no
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Speaker 1: evidence that he was killed none. And I've heard people
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Speaker 1: point to the fact that the CIA was involved. They
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Speaker 1: were not a lot of people buying into the merry
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Speaker 1: and faithful of it all. And uh, you know I
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Speaker 1: support that theory. You know I do at disgracelam pod
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Speaker 1: on Instagram, theoretically on x on Facebook. You want to
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Speaker 1: talk more about it with me there, or you can
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Speaker 1: text six one seventy nine oh six six six three eight.
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Speaker 1: You want to elevate this conversation, you want to elevate
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Speaker 1: the discourse. I'm here for it, Okay, text me, email
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Speaker 1: me six one seventy nine oh six six six three
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Speaker 1: eight speaking to text. Got some interesting texts from a
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Speaker 1: bunch of you on last week's Question of the Week
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Speaker 1: regarding Wendy O Williams and the most shocking thing that
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Speaker 1: you guys have seen a musician do on stage nine
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Speaker 1: four nine right, saying, Hey, most shocking thing that I've
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Speaker 1: seen on stage? Well, I never saw Gigi Allen, but
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Speaker 1: this is close. Sometime in the mid nineteen eighties, the
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Speaker 1: Cramps were playing at the country Club in Recita, California.
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Speaker 1: Now you'd think the story would be about Lux Interior
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Speaker 1: wagging his stuff at the crowd, which he did, But no,
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Speaker 1: this is about El Duce from the Mentors, who is
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Speaker 1: on stage between bands. Now I'm going to interject here
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Speaker 1: into the text for those of you who don't know,
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Speaker 1: speaking of conspiracy theories, L Duce the dude air quotes
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Speaker 1: musician from the Mentors who is supposedly the guy who
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Speaker 1: Courtney Love hired to kill Kurt Kobe. He's on record
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Speaker 1: saying he's the guy that he's paid like fifty grand
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Speaker 1: to do it or something. You know how I feel
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Speaker 1: about that. Anyways, back to the text, this is about
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Speaker 1: L Duce from the Mentors, who was on stage between bands,
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Speaker 1: maybe announcing the cramps, maybe just being L Duce and
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Speaker 1: looking for a free beer. I don't recall. What I
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Speaker 1: do recall is within seconds of L Duce being on stage,
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Speaker 1: his pants were at his ankles and his hand firmly
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Speaker 1: grasping the microphone, and out of nowhere, a young lady
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Speaker 1: hops up on stage and proceeds to phillate. Okay, all right,
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Speaker 1: you know she does what she does to L Duce.
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Speaker 1: Al Duce doesn't flinch right there in front of everybody,
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Speaker 1: keeps keeps his monologue going into the microphone. Yikes, that
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Speaker 1: is pretty shocking. I you know, I'm reading this for
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Speaker 1: the first time here, and uh, I asked for it.
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Speaker 1: You know, I clearly stopped saying the thing that he did.
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Speaker 1: You can read between the lines because you know this
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Speaker 1: is a family show sort of. I asked for this though,
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Speaker 1: So no fault to all y'all. When you ask for
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Speaker 1: the most shocking and you get responses about l Duce
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Speaker 1: being filated on stage, well you shouldn't be surprised. As
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Speaker 1: a podcast host, right, same question. Let's move over to
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Speaker 1: the four two five. Hey Jake Jewels from the four
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Speaker 1: two five and listening to your show about Wendy Oh,
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Speaker 1: I saw the Plasmatics in Southern California. Another Southern California
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Speaker 1: thing here in nineteen eighty one, put on by krooq
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Speaker 1: K Rock the punk station. It was insane and super loud,
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Speaker 1: and Wendy acts the shit. I having an old TV
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Speaker 1: and it was everything we hope for. Thanks for the memories,
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Speaker 1: Rock Arola. You got a Jules that was a little
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Speaker 1: more PG. Appreciate that if you can call Wendy O. Williams,
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Speaker 1: PG for one, writes in well unexpected mention of the
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Speaker 1: Strokes in the Wendy O. Williams episode, Ah, I'm blanking.
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Speaker 1: I'm blanking on the Strokes being mentioned in the Wendy O.
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Speaker 1: Williams episode. But I'm reading this text because there's a
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Speaker 1: new Strokes book coming out and I'm excited about it.
17:33
Speaker 1: It's not all about the Strokes, it's about the era.
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Speaker 1: That era that's sort of like post post grunge, early
17:41
Speaker 1: aughts New York era. This is kind of the same
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Speaker 1: world as Meet Me in the Bathroom. This one's by
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Speaker 1: Stephen Haden. He's a great music journalist and I'm stoked
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Speaker 1: to check this out. Once I read it, I will
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Speaker 1: let you know if there's anything disgrace Landy in there
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Speaker 1: for us. Sure there will be, and I'm sure some
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Speaker 1: of you will read the book as well, and we
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Speaker 1: can talk about it here. Speaking of books, speaking of reading,
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Speaker 1: I should say here in Jim Morrison, we can disgrace
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Speaker 1: land Something I didn't mention in this week's episode, but
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Speaker 1: I'm going to do here in the After Party Bonus
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Speaker 1: episode was the origin of the Door's band name from
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Speaker 1: an essay that I've never read, so this is kind
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Speaker 1: of a reading recommendation, I guess for myself. Anyways, Okay,
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Speaker 1: were you guys aware that Jim Morrison took the name
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Speaker 1: for his band The Doors from Aljuis Huxley's essay The
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Speaker 1: Doors of Perception, and that Huxley's title was inspired by
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Speaker 1: his experimentation with Mesclin. Now I knew this one of
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Speaker 1: those things I knew but I've kind of forgotten about.
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Speaker 1: This makes sense given all that we've come to know
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Speaker 1: about the Lizard King. The Doors, of course, broke on
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Speaker 1: through into the mainstream in nineteen sixty seven with their
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Speaker 1: self titled debut album I Believe We're going to just
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Speaker 1: take ourselves back here. The Doors were massive, huge, instantly
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Speaker 1: almost okay, And I believe part of the reason, part
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Speaker 1: of their appeal anyways, was their name, the Doors. Think
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Speaker 1: about it, The Doors? What did it mean? The Doors?
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Speaker 1: It had to mean something else otherwise, why weren't they
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Speaker 1: called the Chairs or the tables. The Doors had a
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Speaker 1: mystique intrigue. You can hear it in the opening notes
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Speaker 1: of their first single, break on Through, and you can
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Speaker 1: see it on the cover of their first album and
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Speaker 1: to my point, you can feel it in their name,
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Speaker 1: The Doors. All this begs the question is a band
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Speaker 1: name cool because of the name itself or does the
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Speaker 1: coolness of the band make their band name cool. Either way,
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Speaker 1: The Doors are one of the greatest bands to ever
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Speaker 1: do it. And you can, of course hear more about
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Speaker 1: the band and the death of singer Jim Morrison in
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Speaker 1: this week's full episode of Disgrace and Don't go anywhere. Guys,
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Speaker 1: gonna be right back after this with your emails and more.
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Speaker 1: All right, we are back thanks to joining us once
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Speaker 1: again in the after party. Before I get into your emails,
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Speaker 1: I just want to remind you, guys about the Happy
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Speaker 1: Monday's question most hedonistic wildest band of all times? Six
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Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three eight Call me.
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Speaker 1: I'm getting lonely. It's summer. I know you're all out
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Speaker 1: there hanging out outside, going to cookouts at the beach
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Speaker 1: watching the World Cup. How fucking awesome is the World Cup? Then,
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Speaker 1: by the way, I have been sucked into this thing
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Speaker 1: in a way I completely did not expect. I wasn't
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Speaker 1: planning on watching this at all. I've never been a
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Speaker 1: soccer fan really, only to the extent that I've had
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Speaker 1: to learn about it because of the work we've done
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Speaker 1: in Sportsland. I've never I've I mean, I guess you know.
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Speaker 1: I watched Ted Lasso. That's about it. But I have
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Speaker 1: been completely sucked into all these games, not just the
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Speaker 1: United States games, all these games. And I don't think
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Speaker 1: I'm coming out, guys. I think I'm in the wormhole
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Speaker 1: for good. I think I'm going to find a team
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Speaker 1: to support. That's what they say. They they say support.
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Speaker 1: You guys knew that to find a team, a Premier
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Speaker 1: league team, And I don't know. I mean, I guess
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Speaker 1: you know, MESSI what right? Like I can root for Miami. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: that's a big, big digression. Didn't want to talk about
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Speaker 1: World Cup, but hey, everyone I talked to you is
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Speaker 1: talking about the World Cup. If you want to talk
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Speaker 1: have always been fascinated by the musicians that levitate that genre.
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Speaker 1: was more that needed to be told. Hector lived a
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Speaker 1: as Elle Cantante. The singer Jose Thank you. I've never
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Speaker 1: recollection of a movie poster with Mark Anthony playing playing
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Speaker 1: a singer, and that's probably what you're referring to here.
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Speaker 1: And I'm very excited to get into this. Your claim
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Speaker 1: that he lived a hard and tragic life. I'm guessing
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Speaker 1: there's some transgression, there's some crime. I'm there. I'm guessing
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23:38
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen Sugar? I love this show. I
23:41
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Speaker 1: You're asking if it improves. You're saying that you weren't
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Speaker 1: that this show gets fantastic. One of the best endings
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Speaker 1: to season that I've ever seen. Now, it's a pretty
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Speaker 1: just started. That's what I'm asking about it. Zeth not
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Speaker 1: a fan. He was a fan of the show and
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Speaker 1: then he saw the ending and he was like, I'm out,
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Speaker 1: and that happens. I get it. There's still people who
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Speaker 1: anything for those people, though. I just you know, they
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Speaker 1: got to live their lives. That's on them, not on me. Okay,
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Speaker 1: the same thing here. The ending of season one I
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Speaker 1: thought was great, and season two is fantastic. It's modern noir.
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Speaker 1: It's a it's a modern version, modern take on Raymond Chandler,
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Speaker 1: kind of Philip Marlow thing, but it is a little
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Speaker 1: more fantastical than that, and it looks incredible. It's inspiring
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Speaker 1: me in a lot of different ways, and I'm here
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Speaker 1: on James Dean, and James Dean prompted this question from
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Speaker 1: Zeth of what character from movie history is your favorite rebel.
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Speaker 1: That's a great question, that's it because I love movies
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Speaker 1: with anti heroes. We all do. That's kind of why
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Speaker 1: we're all here together. Anyways, Deeth and I were giving
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Speaker 1: recommendations on rebel themed content. So Zeth had some fantastic
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Speaker 1: movies that I'd never heard of that I'm really stoked
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Speaker 1: that conversation. Also from the world of film in cinema
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Speaker 1: and movies that we're watching. I've got to watch Do
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Speaker 1: the Right Thing today and I am happy about that.
25:46
Speaker 1: It's summertime. Do the Right Thing as one of the
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Speaker 1: greatest summer movies of all time. That's why I'm watching it.
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Speaker 1: That's why Zeth is watching it as well, directly because
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Speaker 1: that is the next episode of this film should be
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Speaker 1: did that one, and if you want a lot, and
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Speaker 1: twenty ninth, and I hadn't mentioned it here because it's
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Speaker 1: just so obvious. We talk about it every week, but
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Speaker 1: I should mention for new listeners. This film Should be
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Speaker 1: about music in movies. It bridges the gap between Disgraceland
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Speaker 1: and Hall would Land for you guys. All right, all right,
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Speaker 1: as promised, Zeth and I are about to get into
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Speaker 1: this conversation discussing some of the most outlandish, insane Jim
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Speaker 1: we're back. But before we get out of here, I
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Speaker 1: got to pimp out our archive. I don't even know
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Speaker 1: where to start. I don't know who we mentioned today.
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Speaker 1: I did just so many episodes. Somebody emailed me about
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Speaker 1: that's in the archive of over two hundred and fifty episodes,
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Speaker 1: World Cups got me thinking about Oasis. Got a couple
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Speaker 1: Like I said, I gotta watch Do the Right Thing. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: Back on July third, nineteen seventy one, Jim Morrison was
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Speaker 1: pronounced dead at the age of twenty seven, and this
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Speaker 1: is what America was listening to on that day, according
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Speaker 1: to the Billboard Charts. Number one, It's too late. I
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Speaker 1: Feel the Earth Move Carol King last week one peak
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