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3 Guys Before The Game - Baylor & Pitt Game Review (Episode 593) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody, welcome in. Music's on and we are
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  Speaker 1: ready to roll. Episode number five hundred and ninety three.
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  Speaker 1: This is three Guys before the game. It is our
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  Speaker 1: Baylor and Pit game recaps. Yes, a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: with us, Thanks for enduring with us. We don't chat
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  Speaker 1: before we start recording, and we just let it. We
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  Speaker 1: let it spew. And so obviously West Virginia basketball got
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  Speaker 1: rolled in Pittsburgh back on Friday night, and then the
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  Speaker 1: Mountaineer football team falls at home to the Baylor Bears.
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  Speaker 1: So you're down to your last two games. UCF has
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  Speaker 1: been announced as a three thirty kick the stadium next Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: it will be Senior Day and then you'll conclude on
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  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving weekend against the Red Raiders of Texas Tech. So
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  Speaker 1: what's it all mean? Time to start off with hoppies.
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  Speaker 2: Obvious observations Tony number one, It was an odd game
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  Speaker 2: that second quarter. Forty two points scored in the second
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  Speaker 2: quarter and none in the third quarter and five touchdowns
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  Speaker 2: in the last four or five minutes of the second
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  Speaker 2: quarter is an odd game. And then in the third
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  Speaker 2: quarter just no points. And West Virginia's defense just futured
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  Speaker 2: in the first half and then was much better in
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  Speaker 2: the second half until they just got worn down. The
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  Speaker 2: offense solid in the first half. I mean, if going
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  Speaker 2: into the game, if you said West Virginia will have
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  Speaker 2: twenty eight points in the half, you go, okay, I'll
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  Speaker 2: take that. I'll take that every day. And then nothing
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  Speaker 2: in the third quarter. Despite opportunities you were given opportunities
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  Speaker 2: in the third quarter, could not capitalize. Garret Green said
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  Speaker 2: after the game that Baywood defense made some changes, some
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  Speaker 2: things he hadn't seen, so West Virginia was is ineffective.
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  Speaker 2: Then in the second half of the most parts. It's
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  Speaker 2: an odd game, first of all. Second of all, and
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  Speaker 2: I'll leave the stats up to the up to Brad.
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  Speaker 2: Second of all, home losses hurt more than a way losses,
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  Speaker 2: and West Virginia has struggled more at home than on
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  Speaker 2: the road. And why because if you see a video
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  Speaker 2: of a car accident, it's one thing. If you witness
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  Speaker 2: it in person, it's different.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's a way to think of it.
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  Speaker 2: And people invest time and energy and money and they're
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  Speaker 2: there and they see it. It is more of a person,
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  Speaker 2: it's more personal, and so it just is more debilitating
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  Speaker 2: fan wise to have a home loss, especially the way
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  Speaker 2: that game went. The third point is, and this is
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  Speaker 2: not all you're going to complain about officiating. No fishing
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  Speaker 2: obviously didn't cost West Virginia the game, But this is
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  Speaker 2: a comment about officiating in general, and that is if,
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  Speaker 2: in fact, players safety is a concern. If, in fact,
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  Speaker 2: as we found out earlier in the season, when a
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  Speaker 2: player begins to slide, the play is dead and the
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  Speaker 2: ball is down there, then throw the frickin' flag. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care if it's Garrett Green or a quarterback
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  Speaker 2: or a player for any a quarterback for any team,
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  Speaker 2: any team. If you're going to do player safety, then
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  Speaker 2: do player safety and default to safety. The play is
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  Speaker 2: dead when the player begins to slide. And college football
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  Speaker 2: officiating needs to get its act together on that because
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  Speaker 2: this is absurd. People get hurt. It's a dangerous sport,
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  Speaker 2: and they need to do better on that. They should
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  Speaker 2: get their well, I a'most said a bad word. They
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  Speaker 2: should get their stuff together on that.
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  Speaker 1: Are you happy those obvious observations? Hoo who answered by
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  Speaker 1: no one? Because what he says is absolutely obvious.
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  Speaker 2: You could everybody could have said it.
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  Speaker 1: you really need it, but you knew that of course, Yeah, Senator.
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  Speaker 1: After doing the autopsy where the numbers as bad as
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  Speaker 1: the patient appeared to be.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's say this, and this is my obvious observations here.
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  Speaker 3: I think in one of the more maddening parts of
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  Speaker 3: this season has been what I think showed up again
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  Speaker 3: last night, and it's just the inability to put everything
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  Speaker 3: together in the same game. You saw it against Oklahoma State,
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  Speaker 3: and that's really about it. I mean, you look in
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  Speaker 3: that first half and you're thinking, my gosh, where is
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  Speaker 3: the even a close facsimile of the defense that we
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  Speaker 3: saw the week before. They just, you know, credit Baylor.
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  Speaker 3: They had a nice game plan, They saw where to
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  Speaker 3: attack West Virginia. They just kept throwing it to the
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  Speaker 3: flat and say into your linebackers, we don't think you
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  Speaker 3: can guard. They couldn't, and they just kept marching down
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  Speaker 3: the field and that defense looked like it had the
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  Speaker 3: first however, many weeks the season, nine weeks of the season,
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  Speaker 3: couldn't stop anybody. But Garrett was back. And we had
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  Speaker 3: talked all last week about the way to go at Baylor.
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  Speaker 3: If you could run on them, you had a good
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  Speaker 3: shot to win. In particular, if your quarterback could scramble,
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  Speaker 3: you had a great shot to win. It's why we
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  Speaker 3: thought on Thursday Garrett would be a great option. Well,
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  Speaker 3: guess what, in the first half that was exactly true.
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  Speaker 3: You were running all over them two hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 3: one yards rushing in the first half. Garrett was unstoppable,
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  Speaker 3: making every seemingly every play, running making moves and so
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  Speaker 3: you were at least hanging with them offensively and couldn't
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  Speaker 3: get a stop. Okay, fine, if it's got to be
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  Speaker 3: seventy sixty three, go try and win a shootout. You
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  Speaker 3: get into the second half and wait, well, hold on,
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  Speaker 3: what's this? The defense is making stops and Taylor stopped
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  Speaker 3: a few times to give the ball back to your
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  Speaker 3: offense that was almost unstoppable.
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  Speaker 2: In the first half.
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  Speaker 3: And what happened, couldn't do anything now suddenly the offense
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  Speaker 3: can't move it and can't go anywhere. Special teams that
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  Speaker 3: was so good against Cincinnati came against it. And listen,
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  Speaker 3: these were two good special teams units on the year.
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  Speaker 3: So that was going to be a critical matchup. Right,
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  Speaker 3: Oliver Straw has had awesome punts all year.
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  Speaker 2: There was one.
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  Speaker 3: It was a bad punt. Well, what did Baylor do?
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  Speaker 3: They made you punish for that. They go down, score
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  Speaker 3: a touchdown. Kickoff returns. West Virginia had been really good
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  Speaker 3: in that category third nationally an opponent starting field position.
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  Speaker 3: Had West Virginia been give up a forty one yard
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  Speaker 3: kick return? What happened that drive?
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  Speaker 2: Tony, They go down, they score another touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't get a stop when you needed it. So the
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  Speaker 3: maddening inconsistency continued, and again I realized, that's why your
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  Speaker 3: record is what it is. That's why this is an
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  Speaker 3: obvious observation. But it's the inconsistency again, this time within
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  Speaker 3: the game that cost you that game, ultimately greed.
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  Speaker 1: Which leads to incredible amounts of frustration because you see, okay,
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  Speaker 1: take advantage of it. Take advantage of it. You like
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  Speaker 1: you said, hey, you gotta stop. You got a couple
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  Speaker 1: stops on defense. Now take advantage of it. And you
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  Speaker 1: give the ball over on downs twice, then you throw
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  Speaker 1: a pick and you just peede away your opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: at least tie the game and potentially try to steal
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  Speaker 1: the game.
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  Speaker 3: And you just have to make plays when they present
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  Speaker 3: z themselves. Again I'm being obvious here, I get it.
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  Speaker 3: But that fourth down play and Justin Robinson we talked
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  Speaker 3: about him on Thursday. Man, he had been coming on
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  Speaker 3: and had started to put up numbers and made that
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  Speaker 3: really difficult catch when I thought he was targeted at Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, wasn't targeting, because anytime you think it's targeting,
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  Speaker 3: it's not vice versa.
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  Speaker 2: Hop. So Robinson was really.
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  Speaker 3: Coming on and you have a great play call and
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  Speaker 3: it's just that little in and Garrett puts it right
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  Speaker 3: on the money. And Robinson had made so many difficult
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  Speaker 3: catches and he just you could see he sensed that
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  Speaker 3: there was an opening and it happens right you look
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  Speaker 3: up and he's ready to run and he forgot the ball.
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  Speaker 3: That was a critical moment. You go in and score
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  Speaker 3: at that moment as the offense was clicking, and who
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  Speaker 3: knows what happens from there. It changes Baylor's approach. And
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  Speaker 3: that's one of the things that jumped out to me,
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  Speaker 3: especially in the second half for a squad that was
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  Speaker 3: just chewing you up through the air and Sawyer Robertson,
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  Speaker 3: apparently the greatest quarterback ever to play. He absolutely sliced
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  Speaker 3: and diced West Virginia. They had no answer for him.
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  Speaker 3: And I know a lot of the passes were underneath stuff,
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  Speaker 3: taking advantage of West Virginia's coverage in the flat.
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  Speaker 2: He was really good.
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  Speaker 3: Well, then the second half, what they do, hop They
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  Speaker 3: read that lead and they just said, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna run it. We're going to take some time
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  Speaker 3: off the clock. And then West Virginia's run defense that
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  Speaker 3: had been so good all year didn't have the ability
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  Speaker 3: to slow Baylor down via the run. So really interesting
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  Speaker 3: offensive mindset switched from Baylor that worked and telling West
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  Speaker 3: Virginia go ahead and try and catch up and score.
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  Speaker 3: Had you tied it, they may have had to switch
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  Speaker 3: their formula back. But instead you couldn't score. They just
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  Speaker 3: kept running it right down your throat. Had success throwing
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  Speaker 3: it in the first half, running it in the second half,
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  Speaker 3: you lose a game.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, you'll bust into the numbers more in detail. Would
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  Speaker 1: you take a look at their two leading running backs,
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  Speaker 1: Bryce and Washington averaged just a whisker under seven yards
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  Speaker 1: per carry, and Dawson Pendergrass came in late and he
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  Speaker 1: ran it eleven times for sixty eight yards. He ran
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  Speaker 1: it for six point two. So when you go into
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  Speaker 1: a game and you say, okay, you've got to stop
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  Speaker 1: the run, they those two guys averaged six and a
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  Speaker 1: half yards per carry. Done.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, you know West Virginia's run was back. I mean
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  Speaker 2: two sixty two five yards of Carrie Garrett had won
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  Speaker 2: twenty nine. You would take that all day, you would
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  Speaker 2: in totality.
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  Speaker 3: But again you niche down in that you had two
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  Speaker 3: hundred and twenty one of those in the first half,
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  Speaker 3: like you would have taken two twenty one for the game.
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  Speaker 3: Had you told me Thursday that West Virginia got two
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  Speaker 3: twenty one and Garrett was unstoppable and scrambling, I would
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  Speaker 3: have said, I don't need see anthing else.
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  Speaker 1: That's a win.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care what the defense does. You did. You
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  Speaker 2: did exactly what you had to do right there, and
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  Speaker 2: yet couldn't win the game.
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  Speaker 1: You throw in the sack yardage and they only ran
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  Speaker 1: for forty yards forty forty one yards in the second
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  Speaker 1: half by the time, but he got sacked there. But regardless,
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  Speaker 1: you just weren't as proficient in running the football. All right,
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  Speaker 1: So what's it all mean? We'll get into that. What
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  Speaker 1: it means is I had best. You can go seven
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  Speaker 1: and five in the regular season, and you got to
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  Speaker 1: win in Morgantown next week, which has been easier said
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  Speaker 1: than done, and then you got to go play.
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  Speaker 2: At Texas Tech, which is always hard.
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  Speaker 1: Lord knows, I mean, where are those guys at I mean,
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  Speaker 1: who don't know? Who knows? Don't know? Right, anything can happen.
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  Speaker 1: Take a look at the results this weekend in the
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  Speaker 1: Big Twelve, did you have Arizona Pistol whipping Houston twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven to three.
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  Speaker 2: Probably not, probably not.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have Kansas going up to BYU Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody, well yes, actually everybody that's ever placed a bet
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  Speaker 3: actually did have Kansas beating Baylor.
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  Speaker 2: Well in, Arizona State is the surprise team of the league.
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  Speaker 1: Arizona State goes into Manhattan, Kanas lined up, lined up,
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  Speaker 1: beat him, kicked the Wildcat right in the crotch.
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  Speaker 3: They've had a great year. Pick to finish last in
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  Speaker 3: the Big Twelve was Arizona State. They're eight and two
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  Speaker 3: five preseason pull not having a good couple of years
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  Speaker 3: either off significantly preseason pick number one. Utah four and six,
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  Speaker 3: one in six in loop play after a forty nine
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  Speaker 3: to twenty four loss, not only preseason number one. I
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  Speaker 3: think they were actually awarded the trophy. I think they
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  Speaker 3: took out their base on whatever was saying.
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  Speaker 2: We had that game on yesterday, watching it, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Utah is just very on Utah ish. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: that does not look anything like what you associate with Utah.
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  Speaker 3: So the league is doing what literally everybody thought the
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  Speaker 3: league would do in August. Yeah, right, there's no clear
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  Speaker 3: cut favorite. There's teams that you didn't expect to be
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  Speaker 3: good that are. There's teams that you thought were good
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  Speaker 3: that or not as you just outlined, And anybody's available
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  Speaker 3: to beat anybody on any given week.
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  Speaker 2: So I check the numbers. We'll just go right to
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  Speaker 2: the numbers. There comes a year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's dive in. This is gonna be I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: presentation as.
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  Speaker 2: We move forward. Got it? Oh, Tony Collar, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Will you also be doing the basketball numbers as well?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's do let's go through football. Okay, let's
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  Speaker 3: let's put a bow on football. Then we'll go into
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  Speaker 3: basketball and then do the basketball numbers.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you canna put a bow on
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  Speaker 1: it or a noose.
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  Speaker 2: In the eye of the beholder. All right, go ahead, Sailors.
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  Speaker 3: To your point, you kind of slid this in here,
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  Speaker 3: and you're right. That first half was wild, including the
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  Speaker 3: last four to twenty two of the first half where
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  Speaker 3: there was five combined touchdowns. So again, looked like we
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  Speaker 3: were headed to one of those shootouts like we saw
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twelve. And then lo and behold, zero combined
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  Speaker 3: points in the third quarter, just as you drew it up.
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  Speaker 3: So really bizarre. Six hundred and seventy three combined yards
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  Speaker 3: in the first half that went to three thirty eight
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: in the second half. West Virginia found a way to
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: bring some pressure in the second half, but not much.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Guys. How about PFF credit to West Virginia with just
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: four pressures all night?
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Four pressures, So Sawyer Robertson was allowed to just sit
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: back and throw it again. I recognize a lot of
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: those were just short out to the side where he's
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: just swinging it out and they're just picking up yards downfield.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: But and four pressures in a game just didn't gonna
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: get it done. You had that, You mentioned that stat
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: before the game. What was Robertson the last couple of
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: years he started twelve for twelve in this in the
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: game last night.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Last year in Waco, he was seventeen for nineteen against
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: West Virginia, so he started twelve of twelve, which means
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: he was twenty nine of his last thirty one against
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: West Virginia before throwing an incompletion. In yesterday's game, he.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Was there was no pressure and he was on target.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: And you can say, well, some of those passes are
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: out to the flat and you know they all count,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: they all count. My point to that is this, and
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: they also got and they also got big plays.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, My point to that is this. Everyone always goes like, well,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: they're just thrown it out to the flat, bab just
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: thrown it out there. It's all just did Well, why
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the hell don't you do it.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Or stop it?
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: If it's so easy, while go ahead and you do it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Then well, and that's what's interesting in that first drive.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: You know, go back to the first drive for West Virginia,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: which again they've been they've been really good in the
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: scripted play drives to open games. And you saw it
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: again and we sat there and went, ah, there it is.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: That was a close resemblance of last year's offense, where
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: things were clicking. And as things are clicking and you're
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: moving the change, the playbook's able to expand and you
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: can get more diverse. And you were throwing some short
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: underneath throws and the things were working, and then drops
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: started to come in. You didn't have the success running
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: the ball except for Garrett. And you know, you want
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: to talk about quarterback performance, Seventy three percent of your
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: total offensive yards came from Garrett Green. There's got to
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: be some more there, guys. It can't just be your
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: offense is Garrett drops back and either throws it or
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: takes off. There's got to be more guys that are
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: that have to be available to make some big plays
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: on this challenge.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: On that Garrett Green coming off of a concussion to
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the point where he couldn't play for a couple of weeks,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: had severe headaches, and to go out and to play
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: the way he did in a loss, that's an iron
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: man performance for the Ages, It really is, and it
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: will be remember because you lost the game. But I
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: mean that was as gutsy a performance as you'll get
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: from a mountaineer.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Ever, as I mentioned those run numbers, had you told
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: me on Thursday, westfordg and you would do that, I
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: would think this was going to be a win. You
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: got eleven rushes of over ten yards ten yards or more,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: would you take that all day long? Seven of those
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: came from Garrett, right, So his ability to take off
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: was unfortunately came down to be about your only offense.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Then those drops came at critical times and you just
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: couldn't overcome those mistakes and take advantage of the missed opportunities.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: And quite frankly, I think that's what you could have
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: called the title of the show. To me, that's what
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: that game was. It was a game of missed opportunities,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: be it drops, be it you get defensive stops and
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: the offense can't take over. Be it the defense couldn't
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: get any stops in the first half, just missed opportunities
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: all the way around in that particular game. Want to
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: look at how about this one? This has been a
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: fun one to go to. This wasn't fun though. Most
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: important plays during a game, you know what adds the
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: most win probability? Right for Baylor, their biggest win probability play.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: This was interesting how early this came in a game
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: that was back and forth, but they added a nearly
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: fourteen percent win probability to that first forty three yard
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: touchdown to Josh Cameron from Robertson to take the lead
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: fourteen to seven. Their second most almost thirteen and a
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: half win probability came in the second quarter four minutes
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: to go that started that five touchdown flurry Baylor took
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: the lead twenty one to fourteen. That was the pass
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: for forty yards to Montereate Baldwin for a touchdown. So
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: those were the two biggest here's what we were talking
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: about when the just the missed opportunity plays. When you
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: look at West Virginia's biggest negative plays for win probability,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: right third quarter, two and a half to go, Garrett's
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: pass to Cole Taylor in the flat, one of those
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: shorts should be easy passes. Pressure kind of blew it up.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: He had to throw it early. Cole Taylor with an
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: unbelievable catch and you land a yard short of the
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: first down. Cost you ten percent win probability in that
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: game as you were driving the second most impactful play
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: on a negative perspective fourth and five at the Baylor
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: thirty five incomplete pass on fourth down. He lost almost
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: ten percent on that one as well, So you lost
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: twenty percent win probability on just those two failed fourth downs.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Sure, the pass to Taylor was impacted by a linebacker
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: right up right a face.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: And came right through on the right hand side there
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: as Garrett was flushed to the side. I want to
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: look at some grades, Yes, well sure, what part do
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: you want to say? Who do you want to see?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: First?
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: How did Garrett grade out?
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Good?
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Fourth highest graded offensive player the first three? And this
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: would show you what the run blocking was in particular.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Your top three grades were all offensive linemen Nick Malone won,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Wyatt mile in two, Remac three, Jaqui Hubbard five. Then
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Garrett was mixed in there at four.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Defensively, this way a hang timeout, Yeah, just give me
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: a I don't need a full just thirty okay, Yeah,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: what's that? When your offensive lineman are your best graded?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Dudes?
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: About your skill people.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Well, again, you need the skill guys to make some
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: more plays for you. There has to be and I
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: think some of those changes. If you don't some of
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: that changes, if you don't have those drops, right, those
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: are massive plays.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: You convert that fourth down that I just mentioned right there,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: You convert the fourth down in the first half with
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Justin Robinson, some of those things start to change. I
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: think that also tells you you probably ran the ball
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: pretty well, which you did right Bustin for almost three hundred.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: That's what that tells me. Hudson was your sixth greatest,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: six highest graded right really has turned into your only
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: consistent threat in the receiving core. That's got to improve.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: You've got to find some more guys there. Defensively, this
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: was interesting because it was some new names that you've
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: seen mixed in there. Ben Cutter, your top ranked defensive player.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: They played nineteen snaps. He was in there a little
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: bit more. Some of that was on that cover top
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: when they walked him out on the outside there, Dante Fagan,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: number two, Jahim Joseph three, read Karako four. He seemed
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: to be in a lot of places. Sean Martin fifth
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: highest graded mountaineer.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Read Careco sixteen tackles.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: He was all over the place.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: He was credited with five stops, and we talk about
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: that stop stat that PFF does all the time. Failures
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: for the offense, although there weren't many in the first half.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I realize, Okay, what else you want to say rushing directions.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Pretty interesting because we talked about the leading rushers against
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Baylor and a couple of their losses have been quarterbacks
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: and specifically quarterback scrambling yards. Well, Garrett put up one
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: of the higher scrambling totals. They faced sixty three yards
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: on seven attempts, nine yards per per scramble. Right there,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I mentioned seven runs of ten yards or more. He
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: had nine first downs rushing, Garrett did.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: What else? Anything else? You want to say?
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Those are kind of the most important ones. I mean, again,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: some of this is obvious observations that we saw. You
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: look at Robertson's passing and we talked about a lot
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: of those going behind the line or ten yards or less.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Let's look at these numbers. This interesting stay with me here,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: but how many also, how many plays did they have
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: whatever your definition is for big plays? I mean they
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: had some of those two we talked about the short passes,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: but they had some big plays, right Yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: The Cameron play that he mentioned that swung the wind potential,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the Monterey Baldwin four yard or that really was just
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: a huge touchdown. They really stuck one in on you there,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: and that was a missed assignment there was a lot
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: of painful, painful punches thrown.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: So here here's I think this is just that came
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: to be the difference in the game. And yeah, those
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: big plays were gut punches. But here's where they just
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: h you up. Twenty one of twenty seven on passes
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: from either behind the line of scrimmage to ten yards deep,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: twenty one of twenty seven, here's this one really jumps to.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: On passes behind the line of scrimmage, he averaged six
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: point six yards per attempt on passes behind the line
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: of scrimmage. So that shows you, yeah, yack, you're just
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: throwing it and they're just clearing downfield and you're just
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: running right up there. I mean, that's six point six.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: We've had seasons where westrange quarterback was in the fours
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: for yards per attempt. Those he was six point six
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: just on passes he threw behind the line of scrimmage.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: So again one of those where that what you saw
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: is backed up by the numbers. Here they already saw this.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: They're downfield blocking was very good.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: They did a great job on receiver perimeter blocking, slash
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: holds that weren't necessarily called. They did a great job
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: on the outside. Oh, they had some holds out there
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: that weren't called. But ultimately they Yeah, they did win
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: the battles on the outside. That's part of why that
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: number is what it is. So they threw He threw
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: four two hundred and fourteen yards on those particular passes
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: twenty one to twenty seven for two fourteen on passes
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: behind last scrimmage or up to ten.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: They had a good plan. I mean, I could keep going,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: but that's that's the rap. I'll give you one more.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: It is surprising too, to go back to what I
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: was saying in this ties in the ring game, you
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: ran eighty eight plays against him.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Wow, what if you tell me that on Thursday? I say,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: that's a win.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of deceiving stats. Here's one. You had
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: four hundred and ninety nine yards of offense. They had
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: five twelve for As bad as you think West Virginia's
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: defense played, they only had thirteen more yards, right you would?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't equate it to that. It seemed like a
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: ton more penalties. They had nine for eighty West Virginia,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: three for twenty seven. As Brad said, eighty eight snaps
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: for West Virginia seventy. For Baylor, you ran eighteen more
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and you won time of possession by four minutes, and.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: That you're right, you would take that until you add
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: in when West Virginia, especially in that third quarter, drove
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: but could not finish. Right, So what what does the
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: what does the yardage game mean? Means nothing if you
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: come away with nothing.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that first half where you really have the
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: time of possession advantage, which again, that's how you would
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: have wanted to draw that up to let your defense
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: on side. The problem was they just kept scoring so
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: damn fast on you. Their touchdown drives in the first
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: half two twenty four, two twenty two, two to oh
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: two thirteen seconds, fifty two seconds, and again a lot
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: of those were. The theme of this season has been
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: when West Virginia has something that goes against it, a
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: failed fourth down. I go back to the Iowa State,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: the Gallagher call that was overturned, then you missed the
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: field goal, then they drill you for a touchdown. It
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: seems like that happened so often, and it was here
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: where West Virginia would fail on a fourth down and
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: then within the next couple of plays touchdown or the
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: punt out of bounds a couple of plays later, touchdown,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: the big kickoff return touchdown, and something doesn't go right
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: for West Virginia. It seems like it collapses on the
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: other side of you as well.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: You talked about the speed of drives, and you mentioned
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: that five touchdowns were scored in the final four minutes.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Four touchdowns were scored in the final two to twenty six.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Four touchdowns, oh, four in.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: The last I'm sorry, I said four to twenty eight.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but take a look at West Virginia's last two drives.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: They had a twenty six second drive and they had
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: a forty seven second drive at the end of the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: second quarter to bring you do it in thirty five
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: to twenty eight. Then what happened in the second half.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: First drive, you go four and out and you punt,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Then you go seven for thirty nine yards, and you
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: give the ball over on downs. You come right back,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: and now it's the fourth quarter, you go seven for
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: twenty six and you give the ball over again on
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: and then you come back out and you throw a
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: pick on fourth down, and then that was it. So
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to your point, the lack of consistency both offensively and defensively,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: never be. It forms this incongruous mess that you can't win.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Whereas last week you had specials and the defense both
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: playing well enough to win to offset the offense's correct
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: anemic ability. But yesterday you had an inconsistent offense, You
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: had an inconsistent defense, You had an inconsistent special teams.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: And you know what it leads you to, Yes, what
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: that means? Forty nine five? Right, and you're not getting
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: what the coaches like to call it complimentary football.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: No compliment it was. It was uncomplimentary.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: It was uncomplimentary. Right guys.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Here, here's the other thing that gets totally dismissed, as
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: we just have, and it gets dismissed because they won,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: and they won what ended up being fairly easily. That
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: decision by Baylor and Dave Randa to on side kick
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: one of these single worst decisions I've seen in college football.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: They deserve to lose for making a decision like that.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: That was horrific, and West Virginia punished it and took
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: advantage of it. But that that stuff you can't let
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: go in a game you're that's one of those missed
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: opportunities from a macro level that you get a a
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: staff that had done a pretty good job on you
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: to make a brain dead decision like that to on
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: side kick that thing.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, what are you thinking right there? West Virginia
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: can't stop you, and you're gonna make that call and
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: then but then you can't you can't win the game.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: That should be we should have been leading the show
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: with today's game, like coming in going West Virginia won
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: that game.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: And ha ha, how about Baylor? How about that? That
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: gets people.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Fired when you make dumb decisions like that and you
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: couldn't win a game when that happened.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: You're up to scores. Yeah, God, and you're being cute.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: You're being cute too, you too?
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Clever by half? You clever by half. It was one
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: of the worst decisions. And I think everybody like, what
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: you're right, Brad? If you lose that game, David rand
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: is on the hot seat because you want what was
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: that about it? Okay? But that then so then you
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: have that you punch it in, you get the score.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: That was the CJ.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Donaldson run with just a minute forty seven left in
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: the half, right, and you're like, oh, look at that,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: how about you? They just let you back in the game.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Now you got some life. But that's when then they
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: bust off the forty one yard kickoff return and they
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: turn around and go seven plays, fifty five yards and
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: fifty three seconds to score.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: So you were gifted.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: You were gifted an opportunity to get back in the game,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: and the defense couldn't get a stop there to get
• 31:35
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess this isn't any more pleasant than that.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Discussion just was yeah, yeah, we'll get into textual healing
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But someone did say, hey, Tony, you
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: said you thought that because West Virginia had experienced players
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that they wouldn't be overwhelmed by the environment at pitt
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I am surprised that they didn't handle it better.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I thought that in the beginning of the game she
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: was some some really tight shots went up, some guys
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: shooting the ball that shouldn't be shooting the ball. That
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: was uncharacteristic through the first couple of games. So I
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: think it did get them a little bit more than
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I thought it would.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder it felt to me of ZIV it
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: was too amped up because a lot of the shots. Usually,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: if your nervous or overwhelmed, your shots are coming up shorter,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: you're not getting there.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: These were.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: There was a lot of long shots, so I thought
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: it was just one of those. Again, you were going
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: on the road with a group that hadn't played a
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: lot together, and what turned out to be a very
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: good environment. That was a kind of a late arriving
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: crowd there that ended up being a good crowd, a
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: good atmosphere. Their students were loud, so that was a
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: good road atmosphere as you would expect in that game.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: And it was just a lot of long shots. I
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: think the guys were amped up and ready, almost too
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: ready to go.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: That's a good way to put it. I think they
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: might have been too too giddy day.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think that was a oh my god, we
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: can't play in this environment. I think it was like
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: let's go, We're ready, let's go. And it was just
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: it was too much because you saw a lot of
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: long long shots.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Can I give you who.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Sure hobbies obvious observations? Sure?
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: You know. The first thing is, I mean basketball is
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: more than any other sport. It's just boys. It's streaky
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: and they come out and you know, I listened to
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: you guys, and Brad said at one point, you know,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: West Virginia's doing what they wanted to do defensively against
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: those big guys. But then they then they make all
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: their threes. So you can't you can't do everything right.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: You got to give up something. So you got a
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: game plan and go, okay, well they you know, they
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: took advantage of they made they they made shots and
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: you did number one. Number two is you know what
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: teams are going to do, and that is take out
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Tucker Devrees and make somebody else beat you. I mean,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: that's going to be the plan until somebody else beats you.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: M correct, That's what I got. Yeah, you're right spot
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: on it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: So yeah, and this is I know every loses their
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: mind when you give this as an explanation, but basketball,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: he is more than any other make shots or not
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: make shots. And West Virginia just struggled on the offensive end.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: And yeah, that's the point. If Tuck isn't having a
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: good shooting night, listen, there's still other things he does.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: He's still value. But there's going to be nights like
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: last night when the other team just says, you are
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: not beating us. And what Pitt did is through two
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: guys at him a lot. Every time he came off
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: a screen or a dribble handoff, there were two guys
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: that were out on him. In addition to Dunn's defense
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: was really good, so he had a good individual game,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: but they were doubling Tucker. Tucker can still be extremely valuable.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: It's just incumbent upon somebody else is going to have
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: to step up and score, which then forces the defense
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: to say, okay, now we got a problem. We've decided
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: to double devrees. But he's good at distributing and finding
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: the open guy. And now a Javon Small's going off
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: for a toobyo count and just name anybody, and then
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: that's going to create some problems for the defense. They've
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: got to adjust, and West Virginia just couldn't get that
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: second consistent score. Although quick note, we'll mention good performances.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: You know who did handle it extremely well. Freshman Jonathan
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: how was a dude. He just said, all right, fine,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I'll take it over right with three threes. May had
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: sixteen points. kJ Tenner another true freshman that especially in
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: the second half, came in and handled it really well.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: So if you go by your theory that if you're
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: going to be really good by the end of your career,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: you probably show it early. I think both those guys
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: have shown you a lot early that hey, they're going
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: to be pretty good.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: And to your point, you're right, someone has to establish
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: themselves as a consistent second score for West Virginia, Like
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: it's an opportunity, like Darren could hang a sign up
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: job opening second score. Who's it going to be, Because
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: you're exactly right, Tucker's going to see that people running
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: at him all yeah, season long. And as Brad said,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: he has the tools like some scorers don't have the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: tools to do anything else with it. He'll find the
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: open guy, but the open person has to then finish
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: it to get some of that heat off.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: And I do think some of that is just a
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: result of you. You've got to continue to play together,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: and basketball affords you this opportunity with more games. This
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: group just hasn't played together, so they've got to get
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: comfortable when roles change and Tucker goes from being your
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: primary shooter score to having to help distribute, and other
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: guys just have to be able to step up and play.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: A couple other points are to the point of you
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: were executing the game plan, and yeah, in each game,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: hop you can't take down everything, So you've got to
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: construct your plan with what you think gives you the
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: best chance to win. And then you've got to live
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: with certain things going into that game.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: And this was.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: This was a good game plan because you looked at
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: what Pitt had done and those guards, man, they go
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: right at you in transition and half court offense. They
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: want to go to the basket, and even if you
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: get back on transition defense, they want to go right
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: through you. So that was number one stop transition offense
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: for Pitt only got six fast break points, so you
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: achieved that. So the job was to close that lane,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: force them to kick it out and take threes. Well,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: you did that, and they did They did that back
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: to you, and what's tough is guys it it were.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: The plan was exactly what you wanted to execute. They
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: ended up being hot from three, which they hadn't showed
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: all game, but then by the end of the game
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: they fell in love with that three, and they landed
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: about right where they were on the season. Finished thirty
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: seven percent from three point range. They were about a
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: thirty five percent team all year. It landed where it
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: was going to land. It's just they got such a
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: big lead in the first half and your inability to
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: make shots, you couldn't close it right. You played fairly
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: even in the second half with them, but didn't have
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: the ability to close the gap, So you did what
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: you wanted to do. They made some shots. The second
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: part of that, we're going to talk about this all year.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: You've got to get a style of officiating that fits
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: this team, and you definitely did not get that in
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: this particular game. They end up with more free throws
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: made than you attempted. We use that for me a lot.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: When that happens, you're probably not winning the game. That's
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: number one. Number two. The part of that in that
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: first half when it was decided that caught my attention, guys,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: is late into the first half, pitt was shooting sixty
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: percent of its shots were three point land, yet they
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: had a big gap in free throw attempts. Those things
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: usually don't work. Hop if you're standing outside taking six
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: of every ten shots as a three, rarely do you
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: get to the line more than the other team.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: So I thought that was a.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Sneaky number within the number that showed you you're not
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: getting the whistle that you need here one and two.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I thought that started Tony on the very first play
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: of the game, Yes, very first play of the game,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Amani Hansbury. They did a great job getting it to
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Hansbury on the block, he goes up, hop they have
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: a defender. Diz comes over. There's a collision at the rim.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: No foul called on pit for the cot initiating the contact.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Shot goes in. You're often running. Okay, fine, you don't
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: want to call it's going to be that kind of night. Fine,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: let it go, let it be physical. All of a sudden,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: the game is stopped. We're five seconds into the game.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Game has stopped. They go to the replay monitor and
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: decide to charge Hansbury with a flagrant, which was a
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: quite frankly stunned me based on what the replay showed.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: But that changed the game right there, guys, because Hansbury
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: then was behind the eight ball all night in foul trouble,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: ultimately fouls out of the game. And that's a key
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: component to this offense, especially against a team that's big.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: You want Hansbury in to be able to draw the
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: defense out and you can go to work. And you
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: saw when he was in a couple backdoor passes. But
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: it changes the ability for West Virginia to run its
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: offense when he only plays for thirteen minutes.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah officially, yeah, you're right, he plays officially twelve minutes
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: five files in the basket that you're talking about, the
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: only two points that he scores the whole game. So
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: he's in and out, in and out, in and out
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: all game long, and they need him on the floor,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: as Brad just said, to do so many other different things.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: So that certainly was painful, and it did occur within
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the first forty seconds of the game, and it totally like, no,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: that's not the good thing. And so you had the battle.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I do give credit to Eduardo Andre.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: He came in.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: He had to play twenty two minutes, which is probably
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: about ten more then you know on average he's gonna play.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: He's probably a twelve fifteen minute guy per game. He
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: battled four for four from the field, he had three rebounds.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: But he does not give you the had ability to
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: stand out front and threaten the ability to shoot the ball.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: And as a result, that takes your offensive.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: One last number here to go back to.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: And again, you don't normally say this in a game
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: when the other team scores eighty six points and made
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: shots at the rate they did in the first half.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: I didn't think West Virginia's defense was bad in this game.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Here's one of the examples Pitt had twenty one points
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: scored on guarded catch and shoots off just nine possessions
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: of that, so they were two point three to three
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: points per possession on guarded catch and shoots. So you
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: were in position a lot. They just they had one
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: of those nights.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: You look at it, you know what, you say, made
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: a shot? Yeah, there were several times, and the numbers
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: prove that out. I mean, I'm watching it and I
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: say to myself, you can't defend that any better than
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you just did.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: The guy made a shot how many times with under
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: ten in the shot clock? Like you're guarding for the
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: whole possession. You did a great job, and then they
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: end getting a basket on you. And so that stuff
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: that I think you continue to do those things that
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: turns into wins somewhere down the season, but it just
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: didn't on this particular night, and that lead in that
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: first half was so big you just couldn't overcome it.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: One other note on we keep highlighting the defense of
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Harris and Sara Harris on their point guard Jalen Low
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: came into this game averaging nearly twenty points a game
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: that was part of the game plan is put Harris
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: on him, eliminate him, make other guys beat you. That's
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: exactly what happened. You did Harris locked him up two
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: of eleven from the floor for Jalen Low, he just
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: couldn't get anything going all night, but yet done for them,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: stepped up and had what will probably be a career
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: high scoring night.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: He was really good.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, almost matched his age. He had twenty three. Needed
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: one more basket. He needed one more basket to get
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: up there. So a couple of things as I as
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I ruminated, is that the right word rumiated over the game,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: As I thought about the game driving home, ruminated, Yeah,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: so I thought I needed to put an end in
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: there too.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: You forgot you in.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: So this is what I ruminated over with. The one
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: thing that I got to keep reminding myself is that
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: this is an absolute rebuild. This is not a remodel. Right,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: All we did was we re We're rebuilding the thing,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: and so everything is the first time, and it's everything
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: is the first time for this team. And this was
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: really only their third, you know, true game, and we're
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: starting from scratch. So now they've played their first road game,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: the staff has gone through the whole road process. They
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: did stay overnight in the hotel. So they got kind
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: of like that type of a thing. But it's it's
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: you're starting from scratch and there's just no easy way
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: around it. You're gonna have to grow and at times
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: it will be painful and it'll be frustrating and you'll
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: show flashes, but this is hard.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: It Also it gives you an indication of and Pitt
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: is pretty good. I don't know how good they are,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: but it gives you an indication of how difficult this
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: league is going to be. Yeah, when you go in
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: the road and play some of these teams.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I keep using the John Bline analogy to this. John
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: took over a team that was eight and twenty and
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Darren's taking over a team that was nine and twenty three.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: It's the same. Yeah, you're starting, but like Darren didn't
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: inherit Drew Shafino.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Right, and there's a really a talented score.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a talented scorer. So you're starting it
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: from zero, and so you're going to go through this process.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: It sucks, right, you have to go through it, and
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: it sucks that you know, you had to go up,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: you know and take a beat in there by Pitt
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: but thats the that's my old philosophy of nothing good
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: comes easy, and that that hurt and you grow from it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: These coaches are really, really good. They will analyze every
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: spec of tape. They'll see what they need to do
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: to put guys in better positions. They'll get a better
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: feel every time they play. They'll get a better feel
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: of what guys can and cannot do, and they'll they'll
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: will squeeze every ounce out of the bunge that there
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: is and then you'll see what it is.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: I agree with that because again, the things that were
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: there are the things that are going to be there
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: all year. That effort, the defensive mindset there, and yeah,
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: some teams make shots on you, but I agree with you, Tonny.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: I think this ends up being you'd rather not go
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: up to lose to your rival by twenty I get it.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: But this is also one where you learn, Okay, that's
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: how they tried to take away Tucker, got it. Now
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: here's the counter when that happens. So that stuff will
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: continue to get better as the season goes on.
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• 53:11
  Speaker 1: told and I see a picture here that's being sold
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: at the Pallette Bar in Tay's Valley. So thanks. Also
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: a major announcement about the beer coming up?
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: What now?
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: A major announcement about the beer coming up?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what? It is?
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  Speaker 1: In December? And it will take place in January?
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  Speaker 2: What? Just what?
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Just settle?
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: You'll be all right? All right? Do you know where
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: the speakeasy is?
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, you'll be fine. You have to go get your
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: boy Chuck to drive you around, Brad, you think you
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: should use Chuck? Probably Uber Chuck. Probably not a bad idea,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Mike from Leone? Or is that Leon Hopy l e
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: O n.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Probably Leon West Virginia. Leon. I don't think I don't
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: think it's the French leon. You don't think like for sales.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and here we go. During the Baylor pregame on
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: the radio, I heard Tony talking about ni L and
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: revenue sharing. He said, Baylor outspends West Virginia two to
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: one in nil. Where on the internet can I go
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: to find this information? And if this is the case,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: then what are we doing in this league? If we
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: can't compete with the teams in this conference financially, then
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: we have no business being part of it. We should
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: move down to the AAC or the Sun Belt, even
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: if they pay out less. I find this extremely embarrassing.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Tony weighing on that is that nils are private entities
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: and Baylor is a private school. You can't find that.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: You can find out the general public can't find out
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: that information is not somewhere like that. It is available
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: to everybody. But you talk to people, you snoop around
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: a little bit, you can get an idea, and you
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: know that West Virginia is generally is somewhere in a
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: three five, three six, three seven something like that. Baylor,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: the thought is that they're about twice that maybe more.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Utah's probably twice what West Virginia has, and West Virginia
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: would be in the sort of bottom middle, right.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so a couple of things on this. Then, thanks
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: for the note, Mike. I kind of hit it a
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: couple different ways. I can't say it enough that we're
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: entering into this new world, okay, of funding. And so
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: to answer your question to hobby set, like this isn't
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: listed anywhere, but you know, schools are in within conferences
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: are always talking to each other to try to get
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: like how much do you pay your volleyball coach? How
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: much do you pay your assistant athletic director in charge
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: of external affairs? Like they all have the lists of
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: what it is so that they know what it is. Okay,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: so they share information, but it's not public. But when
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: you talk to the scope of people that people talk to,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: and this has been difficult to get your hands around
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: me because in the beginning everyone was just blatantly lying,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: but now they were, I mean first couple years people
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: just say, hey, heye, twenty million. So now it's settled, right,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: it's finding its market. And I can tell you this
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: to this point, West Virginia's lost to one team this
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: year that spends less in nil than West Virginia, and
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: that team is Iowa State, right, and everyone else has
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: spent more. Now does that mean you should lose to
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: the other teams that are spending more? No, not saying
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: that at all, But to Hoppy's point, there's sixteen teams
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: in the league. In West Virginia is in that window
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: of twelve, thirteen, twelve or thirteenth and spending.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: You got, go ahead. I'm sorry, No, Houston's probably on
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: the bottom he's done about it. Cincinnati maybe, But then
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: on the upper end, you got the Utah's, you got
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: the byus, you got the bailor's correct.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: So my point to all of this again, I think
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: this is the single most important thing that I've ever
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: seen or been involved with in college sports, because we
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: are in Just consider it like this, man, we're rewriting.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: If this were politics, we're rewriting the constitution. That's what
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: we're doing. Like we're going like, okay, old Testament, the
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: better way it might be Old Testament, New Testament. The
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Old Testament was amateurism. The New Testament is professionalism. Okay.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: So it's happening right today and by July of this
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: coming year, it's going to be in full effect. All right,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: So now creatively every school is trying to figure out
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: how do they compete in this world. So Mike, to
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: your point, like go to the AAC or the Sun Belt.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not to be finished, Absolutely not. Athletics for a
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: university is, and they often say it, it's the front door.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: The second you drop down in your athletic conference affiliation,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: your entire institution is impacted in its perception as to
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: what it is, like it or not. Now the academics
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: might not like that, but that's what it is. That's
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: what it is. So instead of saying, oh woe is us,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: let's run away and go down to a lower level,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: absolutely not. What you do is some way, somehow, and
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: anything and everything is on the table. You have to
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: figure out how to develop a consistent revenue stream so
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: that you can fund your student athletes. Okay, So a
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: lot of people at this point, you know, a crazy
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: you know some screaming Okay, coaching change. West Virginia needs
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: a coaching change. Da da da da da da da.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: I would say this to you. The fundamental issue to
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: be corrected, first and foremost is to make sure that
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: you can go get MBP more better players. Great coaches
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: come from more better players, and that is what you
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: have to address. Whether it's Neil or whether it's someone else.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: You have to be able to say we can go
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: to market and go buy these types of players. Until
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: you can do that, you're going to try to be
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Davy and Goliath, Right, that's what it's gonna be. You
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: have to fix that part first. What does that mean?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Does that mean private equity? Does that mean what you
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: have to have a fountain of dollars so that you
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: can compete in the world that you're living in. Is
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: it impossible? Absolutely not. Do you have to be as
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: creative as you've ever been? Yes, that's what this is
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: all about. Okay, Baylor had a backup quarterback that didn't
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: even make the trip this week. That makes seven hundred
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars. They bought him from the mac
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah they got they got benched. Yeah, yeah, makes
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: seven fitty Okay that you can't.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Afford it, West Virginia. You can't afford to do that.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And Baylor spends over seven million dollars on NL.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: West Virginia's like three seven, three eight something in that world.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Who's got more better players. You saw it, so to
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: your point, and that's probably more answer than you wanted.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Like that's where we are now. Does it make me
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: like run away and go oh whoa, whoa, whoa. No,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: but you better be really really creative and how you're
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: going to figure out how to do this? And that's
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: what Ren Baker, and that's what they're trying to do,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: is like, Okay, how can we do this?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: That's it? And just one other point one, it's good
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: at what it's where it's headed is And Brad, you've
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: been in an athletic administration. Is is the athletic department.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Ren Baker going to the institution, the academic part and saying,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: you have to help us. We are elite, We are
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: the primary face of the university, and we generate a
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: lot of good will for the university. The university has
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: to do more to help the athletic side.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Texter, Look, I've never coached football a day in my life,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: but I played quite a bit. That being said, it
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: would seem to me that if if your defensive secondary
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: is porous, maybe you should try to pressure the quarterback.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: I am just about done watching Trey Lathan chasing slot
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: receivers into the end zone. Your secondary is bad. Adding
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: more people in coverage when you could devote more people
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: to getting into the quarterback is as nine am I crazy?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I feel more insane with each passing game. Shan signed
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: by Jordan in North Carolina by the way of spring Hill.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: At times linebackers do have to drop in coverage. That
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: one yesterday that was a running back and Trey was there,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: didn't turn his head. But at times you do have
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: to drop. But point understood, Texter, and here we are
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: another belly drop home loss. I tried to be pissed
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: about it. I can't anymore. Trust me, I fully understand
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: the reality of our situation. We're stuck in a loop.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Defense needs a complete overhaul. It's not going to be
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: easy to go get a top quality d C with
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: the fog engulfing the program, vicious cycle, with the Ray injury.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Do we seem to get more than our fair share
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: of these? I mean, I follow this pretty close, and
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I can't think of a team that's had four or
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: five of these things in three seasons. Not anyone's fault,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: but the bad luck's staggering. That's all I got. Have
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: a great day, Sean and Rollick, Well, you.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Hope Trail and Ray can can is okay and can
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: come back from that. It was a rough looking injury. Yeah,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: certainly thinking about him.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Terrible about that. Hey, three guys, this team has looked
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: decent on the road. They're three and one and the
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: loss was a borderline miracle at pitt Today's game dropped
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: us to one and four at home against FBS, and
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: that one win was a borderline miracle against Kansas. Four
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: losses are all by two possessions or more. Obviously, our
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: toughest opponent opponents have been at home, so that's a factor.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: But I'm not sure that fully explains why home double
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: seems worse than road at WVU, Can you guys speculate
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: what do you think is going on there?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Again, it could be opponent adjusted number one,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: number two. There's no particular rhyme or reason. Number three.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: It just has As I said at the outset, it
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: just has a bigger impact when you lose at home.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think the bulk of that is opponent adjusted.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: You've had the better teams have been here at Mountain
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Airfield versus the road. So I think if you're looking
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: for a reason. That's probably explains it more than anything
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: else does.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: In other words, you beat Oklahoma State in Morgantown, You
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: beat Arizona in Morgantown, right, yeah, Yeah, you beat Cincinnati
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: in Morgantown.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got to play Penn State.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Here a three guys in text end game, win, lose
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: or draw. It was a great night for my little
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: man Bo, who turns a year old this week. I
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: got to be on Mountaineer Field for the first time.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Is that little kid credentialed? I mean, does he have
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: a credential? Look at it? You know who that is,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: don't you?
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Brett? I can't tell. I can't see.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Sammy Lusk Yeah, Sammy, Yeah, Sammy with baby Bo he
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: got on. If it looks like he's a stance.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: I think he is. I think he's. Yeah. I think
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: he's lined up at the guard position at White Guard.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. Ben from Ohio. Does West Virginia
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: have the capability to become competitive revenue wise? In the
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Big Twelve? By all accounts were at the bottom of
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: the nil. Reren Baker spoken about the challenges that they
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: faced with Revshaer. We were way ahead of teams like
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: BYU Baylor in Colorado last year. However, they're now lapping US.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Hope is the most important commodity in sports. I'm not
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: sure that exists right now as it pertains to football. Texter,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: this has been a lack luster of football season. Hopefully
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: last night wasn't a precursor to a very long hoop season.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: It won't keep me from watching and cheering, but I
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: hope we don't become the Rutgers of the conference.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Rutgers beat Maryland yesterday, Yeah, lined up beat them.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The lawman from Fairmont in man. That was tough
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: to watch. The defense starting to make the twenty twelve
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: unit look like the eighty five Bears. Let's hope we
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: can get one more and go bowlding. Ps. What's the
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: dress code for Friday? Speakeasy? I may be able to
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: dig up my pinstriped soup from prom if we're going
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: to go with a true nineteen twenties theme. Hope to
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: see all next week. So speakeasy is what? Hopey? We're
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: in prohibition, that's where people went to drink. Texter. You know,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: at least the crowd had fun. The players tried real
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: hard and if this keeps us we can look forward
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: to more cheap tickets for home games FBS games played
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: at Mountaineer Field. The opponents are averaging thirty seven a
• 1:06:52
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  Speaker 1: Parts Park, Parkersburg. Zach from Timonium, thanks again for reading
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: my texts a couple of weeks ago. Is it time yet?
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: The stadium being empty at the end hard for me
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: to see understanding my class was special with Geno, Tavon,
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  Speaker 1: Bruce Stedman. I feel bad for the students. They've got
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  Speaker 1: no idea what Mountaineer football can be or in the
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  Speaker 1: worst drought in a long time, why are we wasting
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  Speaker 1: time not making a change. I want my kids three
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  Speaker 1: and six months old, no kids three year old in
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: six months, that'd be hard to do it three months
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  Speaker 1: and six months to know the Mountaineer football team I knew.
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  Speaker 1: I hope we figure it out. Thanks for reading my text.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 1: I think one of the answers to your situation there,
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  Speaker 1: as Zach is Gino, Tavon, Bruce and Steedman. What did
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  Speaker 1: they do after they left here? They played in the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League MBP. You got to have more better players, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking last night after the game. Never get
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: a Tavon Austin again, would you? Well, I wouldn't say
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  Speaker 1: never the money that other schools would come at him with.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's no longer. It's no longer like, hey, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna give you, We're give you a scholarship. Now it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be like you know, that's why that that
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: moving inside? You know, you know my stance on that.
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  Speaker 3: I've been saying that since the day this came up,
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  Speaker 3: the interested to watch how the moving of the revenue
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  Speaker 3: share inside does that help to normalize it a little
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  Speaker 3: bit within teams in your conference? And that's part of
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: it because at that point, at least, you can legally
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  Speaker 3: put some of your university's resources towards the paying of
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: players rather than depending only on outside, which we know
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: that's a tougher road to hoe here in West Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: So when it comes in institutionally and you can again,
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  Speaker 3: I know you're going to have to cut costs costs
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  Speaker 3: other places. You're still going to need private fundraising to
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: come into the MAC to be able to shift over,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: but you can use some more of your institution resources,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: which probably helps normalize the spending across college sports, which
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  Speaker 3: is a lot of reason why that's coming forward.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think, Brad that when you do that, I
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: understand what you're saying. I think it's a valid point.
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  Speaker 2: We do that, though, is it just going to Will
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  Speaker 2: it help normalize or just be the schools that have
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  Speaker 2: more innil like, okay, we have this and the anio.
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  Speaker 3: Well there's some of that, but there again, as we've
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: often said, through this, you just didn't know about it.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: But that's always been happening, right, Certain schools have always
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: paid their guys, whether it's been legal or not. I
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: think when it comes inside, what you're looking at is
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  Speaker 3: across the Big twelve normalizing to some extent. Yes, are
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: there going to be times when certain schools have donors
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: that can go out and buy one extra player when
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: they need. Yeah, that'll still happen, but hopefully it creates
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  Speaker 3: a more level process throughout. I just think it would.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: I think it would help West Virginia to have institutional
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: resources available to it rather than simply depending on outside entity.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: Why also needing that outside entity to contribute to your
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  Speaker 3: internal resources If that makes sense?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: Another thing that will come into play here and this
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: will become perhaps one of the most important positions in
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: a football or a basketball program. And that is a true,
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  Speaker 1: true recruiting and personnel department. You cannot make mistakes. The
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  Speaker 1: schools that have the best evaluation of prospects, whether they
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: be coming from the portal or coming from high school,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: they will be an absolute key to your success or
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: your failure.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be interesting to see, and again you can't access
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  Speaker 2: this data unfortunately, be interesting to see how many busts
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: there are this year. I mean how many because nobody
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: knows what you're supposed to be doing exactly. There's no
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  Speaker 2: no formula like there is in the NFL or NBA,
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  Speaker 2: so that how much money was spent on players that
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: are Oh people talk, people talk, Okay, people talk, but
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  Speaker 2: it means right to have the spreadsheet, which you can't act.
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  Speaker 2: But you can't.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're always going to miss, right. Pro prop
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: teams miss all the time they draft guys and they
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  Speaker 1: turn out to be flubs. You're not going to get
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  Speaker 1: away from that. But to your point, they will learn
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: like from their mistakes. Okay, do this, don't do this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's happening. How you spend your dollars will determine your
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: ultimate success or failure.
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  Speaker 3: It's also whither there is still a piece for development
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: and retention, sure, especially in a place like West Virginia
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: that's always had its success based on development. Again, I
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: know it's a different world, but that's still an important
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: part of it. If you can't just outspend, like in
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: Ohio state with that reported twenty million, you've got to
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: be able to get guys in and build them and
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: then retain.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Those as you move forward too. So that's going to
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: still be important moving forward, absolutely will be in West Virginia. Yeah,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: you need to become a great development area and then
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: retention is key. So by the time a guy is
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: here for his third year, you go, Okay, you've been developed.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Now we can pay you this, and maybe the guy
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: would be reluctant to leave because he's been here for
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: a couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, And again I've seen that with West Virginia on
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: the offensive line part of it, where you got Zach
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: Young developed up and he turned into an NFL Wyatt
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Milam develops up and then you sprinkle in. Then you
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: go to the portal and put in a dug Nester,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: you have a remac that has grown up on the line,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: just to name some current examples, that's still going to
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: be extremely important. Then you can supplement with some of
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  Speaker 3: your dollars for some skill positions or some key defensive parts.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: If you've got the base there correct.
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  Speaker 1: And also it's your environment. The kids will stay if
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: they feel tremendously comfortable, and many will. Yeah, not anyone,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: but yeah, but if you build that in there, right
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: Texter An example women's basketball, Right Marcella gets here, he
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: keeps six and then he loses just one that was
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: went down a lower division. He hitted a great job
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: in retaining his players. Textor I don't know what to
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: say about Baylor other than I'm greatly disappointed. I think
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: I'll order some more munch game day grind. I know
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: that'll cure my bluest rifle team. Another elite season men's soccer.
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  Speaker 1: I hope they make a deep run in the NCAA
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: Tournament and win the World championship. On Sunday, men's basketball
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: rebuild mode. But I feel like they will surprise people
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: this year. Jeff Goldsboro, North Carolina Texter says, not the
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: greatest week for West Virginia Sports. So I decided to
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: share a recent West Virginia connection. It's actually my ten
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: year old daughters. We went trick or treating Chicago suburbs
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: some friends, and she decided to go as the Mothman.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Most people asked what she was, and when she told them,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: they just gave he this like weird looker. Okay, that's nice. However,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: she rings one bell at a house. Guy opens the door,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: looks at her, laughs, turns out around and shouts into
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: the house. Hey, honey, you gotta see this. It's Mothman.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: She lights up, tells him no one else knew who
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: she was. He says he grew up in Henderson, West Virginia.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: It's Mason County, so of course he knows who the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Mothman is. She says, oh, well, my dad went to
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: West Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: He says he did.
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  Speaker 1: Too. Short conversation involving the lack of a tutors in
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  Speaker 1: the gomart in Chicago Land, among other things, much too
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: long for my daughter, who wants to get back to
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: candy acquisition. We realize that the two of us lived
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  Speaker 1: a floor apart from each other at Summit Switees during
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  Speaker 1: the late nineties.
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  Speaker 2: Of course they did.
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  Speaker 1: So it just goes to show always a West Virginia connection,
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  Speaker 1: and you never know where you might run into the
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: moth Man. Good story, Texter says. Congratulations to the WVU
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: cross country team. They won a World's championship, didn't they?
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Bred Kaylee McCabe again came through George Clary. Congratulations to
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: all you guys. Shout out uh Texter. I know there's
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: two games left to be played before the evaluation of
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: the football program. We could still be seven and five,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: which would be a huge disappointment, but certainly not terrible.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: I think someone wise could it be the Hopster. So
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: this will be assessed based on the totality of the season.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: One thing to consider. We've now lost four at home
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: this year, average of seventeen points, closest by twelve. We've
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: been almost non competitive. How can you sell the program
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: to potential ticket holders and donors? Texter says, Neil reminds
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: me of the little Dutch boy Hans Brinker trying to
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: plug holes in the dike with his finger to prevent
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: the inevitable disaster. Plug one and another one appears. It
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: seems like a feudal exercise. Was that hands Brinker thought
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: he was a roller ice skater? Hoppy? Let me check
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: that outright, Texter Paul from tamp I wanted to say
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: how impressed I continue to be with Preston Fox and
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Huddy Clement. No matter the score, what the situation, they
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: get it done. Does any punt returner have surer hands
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: or a better first step than Preston? Wasn't long ago
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: we cringe? Did every punt return opportunity a disaster waiting
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: in the wings? Now it's one of our best situations.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Eric and Mineral County. Some offensive stats that are concerning
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: regarding the third quarter last four home games, third quarter alone,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: offensive scored three total points.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: The little Dutch boy who plugs the holes in the
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  Speaker 2: dike with his finger is featured in the novel Hans
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Brinker or the Silver Skates. But I'm not sure they're
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  Speaker 2: one in the scene. So Brinker did skate, Yeah, Brinker
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: did skate, But I'm not sure Brinker is the I
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: don't think Brinker is the plug the dyke guy.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Now he works for the paint company, doesn't he?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Is he on the can of paint.
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  Speaker 2: Over skate? Superid America can't help you there boys.
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  Speaker 1: By the time we come back on this said program,
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  Speaker 1: the Mountaineer basketballers, we'll have played the game. So we're
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: gonna skip a preview on the Iona Gaels and and
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  Speaker 1: we'll blow in here on Thursday. So they did their
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  Speaker 1: gales blow in there, just try it, and Thursday will
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  Speaker 1: recap the I Owner game, and we will preview the
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  Speaker 3: at home, So I think, if I'm right, I'll check
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  Speaker 3: this for next week. I think that becomes the seventh
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: consecutive game that West Virginia will be an underdog in
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: three and three in its previous three games all underdogs.
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  Speaker 3: So you're fighting uphill there, also still looking for that
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  Speaker 3: sixth win. Remember, your win total was sitting what five
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  Speaker 3: and a half this season six and a half, so
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  Speaker 3: you're right up on the edge.
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  Speaker 2: Of that wind total. This Brinker was not the boy
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  Speaker 2: Peter Humh but Brinker is but he's the skates he's
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