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The Age of Aquarius: Precession, Prophecy, and the New World to Come · The Occult Rejects

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Speaker 1: You see, somethings are going to happen. What's going to happen?
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Speaker 2: What I.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the occult rejects. Today we're stepping into
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Speaker 1: one of the most famous and most misunderstood phrases and
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Speaker 1: modern accult and spiritual culture, the Age of Aquarius. A
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Speaker 1: lot of people know the phrase, they know the vibe
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Speaker 1: of it. They connected with awakening, rebellion, higher consciousness, a
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Speaker 1: new world, the collapse of old systems, and the rise
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Speaker 1: of something new. But the deeper you look, the stranger
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Speaker 1: gets because the Age of Aquarius is not just one idea.
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Speaker 1: It is several layers stacked on top of each other.
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Speaker 1: At its base is a real astronomical phenomenon, the procession
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Speaker 1: of the equinoxies, the slow wabble of Earth's access over
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Speaker 1: immense stretches of time. From there, astrology turns that motion
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Speaker 1: into the idea of great world ages. Then occultism and
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Speaker 1: esoteric thought take it further, turning Aquarius into a symbol
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Speaker 1: of transformation, knowledge, upheaval, transmission, and the coming of a
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Speaker 1: new error. But Aquarius is not just an age. It
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Speaker 1: is also a sign, a symbol, a myth, and an archetype.
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Speaker 1: It is the eleventh sign of the zodiac, the water bearer,
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Speaker 1: Yet paradoxically it is not a water sign at all,
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Speaker 1: but a fixed air sign. So right away Aquarius gives
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Speaker 1: us a paradox. It pours water but belongs to air.
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Speaker 1: It suggests flow, but remains fixed. It points toward the collective,
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Speaker 1: the future, and the movement of ideas, but it can
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Speaker 1: also become detached, abstract and cold. And behind that symbol
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Speaker 1: there is also a story. In the clearest mythic reading,
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Speaker 1: Aquarius is tied to Ganymite, the trojan Us taken to
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Speaker 1: Olympus to become the cupbearer of the gods, the one
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Speaker 1: who pours out the divine drink. In all the Mesopotamian layers,
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Speaker 1: Aquarius was associated with Ea and Anki, a god of water, wisdom, purification,
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Speaker 1: and sacred knowledge. So even before Aquarius became a modern slogan,
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Speaker 1: it already carried the imagery of heavenly transmission, ritual pouring,
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Speaker 1: and the distribution of something life giving or divine. So
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Speaker 1: today we're not just asking whether the age of Aquarius
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Speaker 1: has begun, we are also asking what Aquarius means in
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Speaker 1: the first place, What is its story, what is its archetype,
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Speaker 1: Where do these ideas come from historically? Why did this
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Speaker 1: sign become linked with prophecy, reform, awakening networks, and the future,
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Speaker 1: Because that is where this gets interesting. So today we're
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Speaker 1: going to break open the astronomy behind the age, the
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Speaker 1: mythology behind the sign, the archetypes of Aquarius, the occult correspondences,
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Speaker 1: the history of how this becomes a modern prophecy, and
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Speaker 1: the deeper question of whether this soul called New World
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Speaker 1: to Come is a real turning of the heavens, a
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Speaker 1: projection of human hope, was something stranger in between? And
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Speaker 1: today this was Headless's idea. So we got Headless Giant
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Speaker 1: joining us. What is going on, sir? How will you
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Speaker 1: hi doing?
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Speaker 3: Guys? You can find me at the Headless Giant on YouTube,
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Speaker 3: on Twitter, on rumble, and on x so x or whatever.
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Speaker 3: And tonight we're getting into a real banger. We got
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Speaker 3: to talk about the procession of the equinoxes. We got
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Speaker 3: to talk about all of these different aspects of the
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Speaker 3: Age of Aquarius, because I think a lot of people
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Speaker 3: think it's a bunch of hippie mumbo jumbo, and that
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Speaker 3: is not the case. Like, there are some very real
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Speaker 3: perceptible signs of going into this age of Aquarius that
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people have just completely missed.
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Speaker 3: So let's go around the panel and let's see let's
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Speaker 3: introduce ourselves. Go ahead, Ethan, tell them much you've been
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Speaker 3: working on.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 2: Always great to talk with you, guys. This is fun.
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Speaker 2: No guests, we can just we can just. I always
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Speaker 2: always appreciate you guys. Ethan Indigo Smith on all the
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Speaker 1: Appreciate, thank you.
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Speaker 3: Let's go to you, Jules.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, Hellas. I think it was funny
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Speaker 1: how you mentioned. I think it was yours you Ethan
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Speaker 1: bentioned like kind of hippie stuff. That was actually going
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Speaker 1: to be like, depending on how the show went. I
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Speaker 1: actually had like my first question was going to be like,
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Speaker 1: when you hear of the Age of Aquarius, what is
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Speaker 1: it that comes to mind? And I think a lot
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Speaker 1: of people would be kind of like the whole hippie idea,
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Speaker 1: and I do think that is due to that song
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Speaker 1: the Age of Aquarius being very famous in the nineteen
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Speaker 1: sixties of seventies movie that it was in.
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Speaker 3: Right, this is the dawning of the of Aquarius, Right,
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Speaker 3: Well what does that mean? Right? So, I think a
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Speaker 3: lot of people think it has to do with, you know,
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Speaker 3: this sort of peace love hippie movement, and Aquarius is
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Speaker 3: kind of this, yeah, whatever you want to do, man,
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Speaker 3: But when you really dig into the symbol itself, it's
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Speaker 3: not that way. Like, I think one of the main
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Speaker 3: things we got to cover is procession of the equinoxes
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Speaker 3: and what does it mean to have a procession of
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Speaker 3: the equinoxes? What is the great year? These are things
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Speaker 3: that were discovered by the ancients and they started to
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Speaker 3: really dig down into the symbolic significance of these things.
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Speaker 3: So when you're in a great astrological year, it's about
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Speaker 3: two thousand and six hundred years between the changing of
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Speaker 3: the equinox at the sun when the sun is coming
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Speaker 3: up in the springtime, right, So this is like considered
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Speaker 3: to be the old April first, this is what they
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Speaker 3: consider to be the new year. Way back when so
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Speaker 3: This is one of the reasons why they call them
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Speaker 3: April fools, because they would go by the old astrological year. Turning.
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Speaker 3: That old astrological year turning goes word back thousands of years.
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Speaker 3: It got changed over to January with the Julian calendar.
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Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, buddy. But but the idea, the idea
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Speaker 3: is spring is a more natural time for there to
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Speaker 3: be the changing of the year because this is the
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Speaker 3: start of the growing season and all the rest of
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Speaker 3: these ideas having to do with new life. If you're
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Speaker 3: doing it in the middle of the winter, it's like
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Speaker 3: you've still got a lot of winter to go and
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Speaker 3: you're not actually in the change of the seasons and
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Speaker 3: all the rest of this stuff. So to SPIRITI yeah,
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Speaker 3: right right now. There are some times like February second,
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Speaker 3: that are you know, very spiritually active and getting the
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Speaker 3: sap to rise up in these in these animals, Like
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Speaker 3: you can actually feel that on February second. This is
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Speaker 3: one of the most ancient rituals too. It's like a
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Speaker 3: water holiday that brings up the sap. You can actually
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Speaker 3: see it if you're if you're into oral reading and
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Speaker 3: stuff like that. But that's just one part of the
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Speaker 3: changing into the spring. Now, when you've changed the spring
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Speaker 3: equinox uh procession, that's because of the the wobble of
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Speaker 3: the earth, right, So the wobble of the earth, it
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Speaker 3: changes the axis as you go through these years. And
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Speaker 3: once it goes through a full turn of that wobble
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Speaker 3: of the earth back into a different one of these
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Speaker 3: zodiac signs, that's when you've got the changing of the
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Speaker 3: cosmic year. Now, we were in the age of Pisces
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Speaker 3: for a long time, and now it's right on the
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Speaker 3: verge right sort of in that boundary line. Because as
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Speaker 3: you know, if you ever looked up at the stars,
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Speaker 3: they don't really have a set, fixed, measured, you know,
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Speaker 3: limit between these different asterisms. So where is it actually, Well,
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Speaker 3: you can kind of gauge it based off of the
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Speaker 3: signs and the symbols that are coming up. One of
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Speaker 3: the things that keeps coming up to me when it
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Speaker 3: comes to the age of Aqueries is all of this
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Speaker 3: radio wave transmission. We're in the age of radio wave transmission.
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Speaker 3: I mean around five G you've got Wi Fi, You've
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Speaker 3: got all of these things connecting people using radio wave transmissions.
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Speaker 3: Now that is the watery air sign. Radio waves are
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Speaker 3: like waves through the air.
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, how I even said before this,
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Speaker 1: which is weird, would you look looking at water and air,
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Speaker 1: how it's like, you know, it's supposed to be fixed,
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Speaker 1: but then it goes with the flow. I would even say,
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Speaker 1: the certain frequency of that wave would cover all that
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Speaker 1: right there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, February second, that's in bulk.
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Speaker 3: That's in bulk. Yes, in bulk. Okay, very sacred.
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Speaker 2: It's important to point out too, it's not as it's
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Speaker 2: far removed from hippie dippy as it can be in
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Speaker 2: the sense that it the Age of Pisces began around
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Speaker 2: the time when our calendars flip from counting down to
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Speaker 2: counting up, right, like, so it's basically our calendar system
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Speaker 2: is arguably based on the beginning of the Age of
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Speaker 2: Aquarius and the ending of Pisces.
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Speaker 3: Right, pisc in age. Now, what the ancients also saw
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Speaker 3: with these grand you know, years of two thousand, six
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Speaker 3: hundred years is that the the the different religions would
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Speaker 3: change over the planet, right, And so you've got the
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Speaker 3: age of the Ram talked about in the Bible with
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Speaker 3: Arin blowing the Ram's horn, and then you've got the
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Speaker 3: age of the Bull, with the Egyptians talking about the
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Speaker 3: Golden Calf and all of these things as transitions from
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Speaker 3: one form of religion to another. And now with the
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Speaker 3: Age of Pisces, we see the Five Loaves and two fish, right,
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Speaker 3: So these are asterisms that have been put into our
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Speaker 3: religious systems as a way of condensing and explaining these
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Speaker 3: different changes in the grand astural years. So this changes
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Speaker 3: people's belief system. This is another reason why you see
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Speaker 3: the hippies sort of glomming on to this ideas because
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Speaker 3: they wanted a massive change in ideals. The problem is
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Speaker 3: is that they don't see themselves as a product of
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Speaker 3: the culture. Right, So everything they're saying is coming from
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Speaker 3: the perspective of people in the nineteen sixties who believe
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Speaker 3: some sort of new generation of flower children is coming about.
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Speaker 3: But is that really the case? Does that really apply
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Speaker 3: to these symbols In the previous age, the Age of Pieces,
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Speaker 3: it's ruled by the Cinopieces, and the ruler of the
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Speaker 3: Sinapieces is Jupiter. The Jupiterarian age one of expansion, one
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Speaker 3: of growth, one that would allow for hippies to exist
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Speaker 3: in a state. That doesn't mean you have to be
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Speaker 3: useful anymore. The ruler of the Age of Aquarius is Soddurn.
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Speaker 3: This is a very different cod that I think a lot.
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Speaker 1: Of it may not be all hippies and you know,
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Speaker 1: rainbows and sunshine, what.
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Speaker 4: Does that mean? I mean, look, they've been throwing up
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Speaker 4: the opposite of peace with the peace sign, you know.
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Speaker 4: You know it's the algas, it's it's the ruine for
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Speaker 4: protection right when used upside down. They've been throwing it.
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Speaker 4: You know, this is we've talked about this with know
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Speaker 4: Wars being quite literally Cigil Wars.
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Speaker 1: Probably gave Churchill the peace signed to use against the
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Speaker 1: SWASTI here.
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Speaker 4: We fucking go right there. And I mean this used
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Speaker 4: to be the finger in uh you know in England.
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Speaker 4: I think right way back in the day, when people
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Speaker 4: would go like fuck you, they would do the two fingers.
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Speaker 4: It meant like victory or something, right.
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Speaker 1: You know what I was written. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: this is true. The middle finger pointing at somebody back
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Speaker 1: in the day where it started like this was actually
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Speaker 1: a way to point out a gaybors. Yeah, like you'd
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Speaker 1: use your middle finger. I'm pointing out of the.
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Speaker 2: Use of the two fingers. Of the middle finger was
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Speaker 2: because there was an order by one King of England
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Speaker 2: or another of his people essentially that were fighting against him,
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Speaker 2: and they could pull their arrows with the two fingers
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Speaker 2: and fight back, and they were all ordered to have
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Speaker 2: them cleaved off and not killed. But that was a punishment,
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Speaker 2: and the ones that still had their finger were like, basically,
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Speaker 2: fu right, that's I still got my hands right. I
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Speaker 2: believe there is a relationship.
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Speaker 3: With that, absolutely, But these signs and symbols are really
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Speaker 3: emblematic of the mind state of the people in those eras.
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Speaker 3: It becomes when once you dig into the ancient pagan culture,
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Speaker 3: it becomes very hard to put yourself into their mind state.
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Speaker 3: You don't really have that perspective. And you know, this
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Speaker 3: is where you get the idea of the past being
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Speaker 3: a foreign country, right, So we can look back into
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Speaker 3: the past in England and be like, what were these
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Speaker 3: people thinking? This doesn't make any sense to us. You've
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Speaker 3: got to get deeper and deeper into the context to
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Speaker 3: really understand all of these these differences, and the further
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Speaker 3: back you go, the more confusing and more alien those
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Speaker 3: concept get. Right, So what we have to do is
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Speaker 3: realize that these different changing eras really do have an
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Speaker 3: effect on culture. So in the age of Pisces, right,
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Speaker 3: this is under the era of Jupiter expansion, and you've
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Speaker 3: got Pisces the two fish being led around by the tail. Right,
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Speaker 3: it's social control using expansion or love weaponized love. Right.
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Speaker 3: That's that's kind of what emblematic you know, m is
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Speaker 3: emblematic of this age of Pisces. Right, So we have
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Speaker 3: the start of it with Jesus, and Jesus is giving
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Speaker 3: that love out to everybody. Everybody can have love. And
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Speaker 3: you see in the in the opposite direction, you see
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Speaker 3: all of these different church sects that are fighting against
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Speaker 3: each other constantly. Even in one sixty seven piece or ad,
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Speaker 3: you've got this guy named Kelsis who is coming from
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Speaker 3: a previous era of understanding, looking at these different churches
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Speaker 3: and saying, hey, these guys fight with each other all
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Speaker 3: the time. They don't have a single good word to
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Speaker 3: say about each other. They actually only care about their
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Speaker 3: own sect, and they fill their followers with a bunch
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Speaker 3: of lies about all the other Christian secks we haven't
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Speaker 3: ever exited that. That's sort of like the base understanding
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Speaker 3: for this this entire era that we have right now
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Speaker 3: is constantly they'll say, oh, Christianity is the truth, truth,
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Speaker 3: just not those guys. Go kill those guys. Right, So
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Speaker 3: it's a it's a it's a it's a kind of
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Speaker 3: weaponized love affair that's.
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Speaker 2: Mind blowing, ed list, really really awesome oservation. The Buddhists
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Speaker 2: decry the idea, Oh am, I still am, I going, yeah,
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Speaker 2: you're good, You're good, You're good. How an exceptional observation
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Speaker 2: that was, And it reminds me of the Buddhists decry
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Speaker 2: passion because it kind of leads to this love at
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Speaker 2: all costs that you're pointing out, and instead they try
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Speaker 2: to build on compassion, which certainly doesn't have that same modality.
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Speaker 2: But excellent observation.
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Speaker 1: I would even say some of those things you said
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Speaker 1: headless would still be like stuck in the Pisces ideas.
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Speaker 3: Exactly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like even like you know, because I had stuff
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Speaker 1: down and it's like, you know what I wanted to show,
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Speaker 1: like the difference between Pisces and Aquarius, And for Pisces
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Speaker 1: I had like faith, suffering, sacrifice, redemption, devocean mysticism a
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Speaker 1: little bit, and Aquaries, I mean I have like more
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Speaker 1: like intellect systems, reform, networks distributed knowledge. So like some
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Speaker 1: of the things we were mentioning, I would still see
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Speaker 1: as being stuck in the old era.
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Speaker 3: Actually distributed knowledge. That's a big factor.
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Speaker 1: Again, just real quick. I think that would even fit
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Speaker 1: in again with what we were talking about, how you
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Speaker 1: were saying, all this stuff going around in the airways,
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Speaker 1: it's all information just being packeted around.
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Speaker 4: I want to kind of and this is out of
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Speaker 4: the blue, but we use the word faggot earlier, and
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Speaker 4: me and Headless were talking and I go, hey, so
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Speaker 4: faggot meaning a bundle of sticks? What was also a
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Speaker 4: bundle of sticks in the ancient times? The fasci That
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Speaker 4: was the the symbol for the the you know, the
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Speaker 4: folt or the vult you know, the tribes of these
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Speaker 4: European nations being together. Also the fashionists, right, and so
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Speaker 4: you get into that and like the entomology and all that,
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Speaker 4: and now it means, uh, you know, fagot means a
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Speaker 4: gay guy, and so it's it's like, uh, I don't
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Speaker 4: know that. That's a theory of mine that I threw
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Speaker 4: out there a couple of weeks ago, and and so
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Speaker 4: I figured i'd bring it back up.
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Speaker 3: It's an important version. I think a lot of conspiracy
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Speaker 3: podcasters have caught onto the idea that we're in the
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Speaker 3: age of inverted symbols, Right, So the symbols that meant
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Speaker 3: something to the people before, you know, the classical era
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Speaker 3: and all the rest of that stuff kind of got
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Speaker 3: turned on their head when you look at the Age
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Speaker 3: of Pisces. So everything before the Age of Pisces got
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Speaker 3: demonized as being this horrible, horrible thing. You dig into it,
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Speaker 3: you look at the original sources, and you're like, what
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Speaker 3: are you talking about. It was just a way to
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Speaker 3: have that social pressure on the people who might want
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Speaker 3: to go back to a more simplistic era where things
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Speaker 3: made sense.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you see, That's basically what I mean though, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: is the inversion of the symbols it meaning something that
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Speaker 4: used to be for unity and masculinity. Now you know
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Speaker 4: that word is translated into something that is something effeminate
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Speaker 4: and gross the opposite.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would actually say what you were saying to me.
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Speaker 1: It kind of sounds like I'm wondering if it's more
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Speaker 1: along the lines of like people with this whole satanic
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Speaker 1: panic realizing like, wait, maybe it isn't all about all that.
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Speaker 1: Maybe It's not all dicks and demons. You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. When you figure it out, hear.
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Speaker 4: Me out on the whole dix thing, dude. It's like,
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Speaker 4: if these people want to work dicks, they will quite literally,
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Speaker 4: uh build a dick statue. I mean, why why why
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Speaker 4: wouldn't they? You know, I know the phallus uh, and
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Speaker 4: you know, the phallic symbolism is very ancient, and the
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Speaker 4: obelisk is kind of indicative of that, but it means
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Speaker 4: other things.
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Speaker 1: You know, even in Japan, they literally make a dick
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Speaker 1: thing like you're not going to mistake that with an
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Speaker 1: obelisk gets shaped like a fucking dick.
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Speaker 4: I think these people would be making golden dick idols
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Speaker 4: to like, you know, and they I'm sure there's one
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Speaker 4: out there. I mean I don't I'm not going to
20:33
Speaker 4: go looking for it, but it's there probably.
20:36
Speaker 1: You know.
20:38
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's interesting too, because what what you'll
20:40
Speaker 3: find is that, uh, the spiritualism of the piscent era,
20:46
Speaker 3: and this goes back to a lot of this, uh
20:48
Speaker 3: where we find our grounding and knowledge, right, you're talking
20:51
Speaker 3: about distributed intelligence. Well, where they found their grounding and
20:55
Speaker 3: knowledge in the piscent era is in a single source. Right.
21:00
Speaker 3: Everything has to be found in that single monotheistic source, right,
21:06
Speaker 3: And the only way that you could understand that single
21:09
Speaker 3: monotheistic source is through the opposing ideas of good and evil. Right.
21:13
Speaker 3: The only way you can really grasp and understand monotheism
21:17
Speaker 3: is by thinking about good and evil instead of actually
21:20
Speaker 3: looking at what people do. You have to brand everything
21:23
Speaker 3: they do with these metaphysical qualifiers of either good or evil.
21:27
Speaker 3: So everybody sort of gets branded as one of these
21:30
Speaker 3: two things. This is why the two fish are so
21:32
Speaker 3: important when it comes to the spiritual duality. Right, you've
21:36
Speaker 3: got the good fish and then you've got the evilfish,
21:38
Speaker 3: but really they're connected by the tail.
21:40
Speaker 1: Could you even be non biased in a world like
21:43
Speaker 1: in a thinking like that? You know what I'm saying,
21:45
Speaker 1: You know how what it is to look at things
21:47
Speaker 1: and if it's everything's just always good and evil and
21:49
Speaker 1: there's no one between, there's never good. You always had
21:51
Speaker 1: to have picked.
21:52
Speaker 4: That's that's the beauty of like kind of recognizing you
21:55
Speaker 4: you you do recognize that there is a middle path.
21:58
Speaker 4: I think, uh that that you can kind of you know,
22:04
Speaker 4: see between the lines, so to say, but sorry, go ahead.
22:10
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, as we're going into this, you know,
22:13
Speaker 3: aquarium era, we're seeing the ideas of metaphysical grounding in
22:19
Speaker 3: a single solitary source, like the tag argument that Jay
22:22
Speaker 3: Dyer makes all the time, that's fading away, Like they're
22:26
Speaker 3: actually looking at distributed intelligence models like constructivism as a
22:30
Speaker 3: philosophical basis for understanding. So with constructivism, what you're doing
22:35
Speaker 3: is you're having an observation, you're making judgments based upon
22:40
Speaker 3: that observation, and then you are expressing what those observations
22:45
Speaker 3: have taught you. That's a constructivist model. Whereas where you've
22:48
Speaker 3: got the metaphysically grounded model, everything has to come from
22:53
Speaker 3: a single source. With the distributed intelligence model, you've got
22:57
Speaker 3: intelligent sources of react activity all throughout the entire universe.
23:03
Speaker 3: It's more grounded in matter itself. Right, So the matter
23:06
Speaker 3: becomes the basis for everything spiritual as opposed to the
23:09
Speaker 3: spiritual being the basis for everything material. That switch is
23:14
Speaker 3: going to be a huge thing, and we see that
23:16
Speaker 3: now happening with computer vision. As we've talked about on
23:19
Speaker 3: the show before, computer vision is saying, hey, no, it's
23:22
Speaker 3: the observation that is creating consciousness. It's the observation. It's
23:26
Speaker 3: the interaction between this stuff that creates higher forms of intelligence.
23:31
Speaker 4: You have to have that. You can't have one without
23:33
Speaker 4: the other. Right, it's that form of balance. And this
23:36
Speaker 4: is what Hall says in one of his treaties. He says,
23:39
Speaker 4: if you were to eliminate Satan completely, the lucifer angels
23:47
Speaker 4: would other I think known as the seraphim right would
23:53
Speaker 4: destroy the world. They would eat up like, they would
23:56
Speaker 4: burn everything. He says something along the lines of that,
23:59
Speaker 4: that they would burn up the earth, probably the people
24:04
Speaker 4: on it, but it being probably a metaphysical burning or
24:10
Speaker 4: whatever right of the soul or something. But that there
24:15
Speaker 4: is this dualistic kind of balance to everything, and it's like,
24:19
Speaker 4: you know, if it has to stay this way, and
24:22
Speaker 4: you know, folks want to make it or people think
24:25
Speaker 4: folks that when you know, they want to go all
24:27
Speaker 4: bad or all good, and I don't know what that
24:31
Speaker 4: maybe some people, you know, But well.
24:33
Speaker 3: With the constructivist model, I think it's it's far more
24:36
Speaker 3: intelligent when it comes to morality, because morality becomes a
24:41
Speaker 3: function of where you belong in society. Right, people have
24:45
Speaker 3: different views of what is good and what is evil
24:47
Speaker 3: based upon which groups that they belong to, the problem
24:51
Speaker 3: is is that nobody actually acknowledges that, right. They all say, oh,
24:55
Speaker 3: it's all good or it's all bad. So with the
24:57
Speaker 3: constructivist model, you're saying, no, you're good and bad. That
25:00
Speaker 3: is influenced by the groups or the identity that you
25:03
Speaker 3: belong to, right, that would be more particular as constructivism.
25:07
Speaker 3: So what they're saying is that you have this kind
25:09
Speaker 3: of in group preference which determines your morality, which I
25:14
Speaker 3: think is far more realistic than thinking that there is
25:16
Speaker 3: this all powerful, all pervading good and evil forces in
25:20
Speaker 3: the universe, kind of like Star Wars, where you've got
25:22
Speaker 3: the good side of the force and the evil side
25:24
Speaker 3: of the force, and that they're always battling against each
25:27
Speaker 3: other to get supremacy over the whole thing. It's these
25:30
Speaker 3: are our products of the groups that you belong to.
25:33
Speaker 3: These are the products of the identities that you claim.
25:36
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's the macrocosm too, right towards the microcosm,
25:41
Speaker 4: which is us, you know, and we are both of
25:44
Speaker 4: those things too. We're both good and bad. No one,
25:47
Speaker 4: even if you're saved whatever you know, you're not completely
25:50
Speaker 4: all the you know, good right you still have I mean.
25:55
Speaker 1: You know, you know what's really interesting I'm saying here
25:57
Speaker 1: listening to what you guys are saying, and this is
25:59
Speaker 1: really making me think of how, like like religion, I
26:02
Speaker 1: feel like with some people, they'll just start with this
26:06
Speaker 1: whole like good guy, but like like you're saying, like
26:09
Speaker 1: there's this whole crazy story that's like going on. I
26:13
Speaker 1: guess there's these entities just sitting somewhere like the vising
26:15
Speaker 1: like how are we going to do this? And like
26:17
Speaker 1: it's just somehow this is creeped into politics. Yea, oh,
26:22
Speaker 1: this guy's playing seventy chest Shut the fuck up, you're retadd.
26:27
Speaker 4: Dude is a chaos magician, and h I think.
26:31
Speaker 2: We know something. This makes me think about the timing,
26:36
Speaker 2: certainly of the Age of Aquarius beginning. Excuse me, the
26:39
Speaker 2: Pisces age beginning is so monotheistic. It's like when Jesus
26:45
Speaker 2: was alive and that's when monotheism really began its expansion.
26:50
Speaker 2: But and maybe you know, I think this is true
26:53
Speaker 2: with all kind of astrological concepts. Is like there's a
26:57
Speaker 2: lag with the effects of one and the effects of another. Right,
27:04
Speaker 2: But it makes me think of the Biblical reform where
27:07
Speaker 2: they got rid of the ashera poll and and and
27:12
Speaker 2: how do you even know like what evil or what
27:15
Speaker 2: good is without evil, as we're kind of pointing out before,
27:19
Speaker 2: And same thing with this masculine desert storm god of
27:24
Speaker 2: destruction and creation through destruction, how do we even know
27:30
Speaker 2: what that is without Ashura? And as got totally taken away,
27:36
Speaker 2: and she was his divine, feminine counterpart. And in a
27:40
Speaker 2: kind of abstract, if you have Yahweh as one polarity,
27:45
Speaker 2: creation and destruction in negative terms, you could have Asura
27:50
Speaker 2: as the other form of conceptuality, the other polarity as
27:55
Speaker 2: creation and destruction in positive terms. And I think this
28:00
Speaker 2: is a really big problem with how we approach things
28:03
Speaker 2: today in so my ideas of war on drugs, war
28:10
Speaker 2: on fat, war on this, like just take it. Isn't
28:14
Speaker 2: there another way besides war?
28:18
Speaker 3: Well again, like what what you're talking about is is
28:21
Speaker 3: kind of the.
28:22
Speaker 2: We don't then consider it, right? But the.
28:32
Speaker 3: Are you there?
28:34
Speaker 4: Ethan?
28:37
Speaker 2: Sorry? And I was just but the Osera polarity, I
28:41
Speaker 2: think is a is a great way to understand the
28:46
Speaker 2: entirety of the you know, yahweh idea as useful in itself,
28:51
Speaker 2: but not the only form of you know, this this
28:56
Speaker 2: conceptuality beyond the person. And it reminds me. This destruction
29:01
Speaker 2: of the polarity or the removal of the polarity in
29:05
Speaker 2: that case, reminds me of what we're going through just
29:08
Speaker 2: kind of recently. There's two great polarities of what it
29:13
Speaker 2: what was our new system?
29:17
Speaker 1: Is this?
29:18
Speaker 2: No, that's that's yeah, wah that he is the donkey.
29:23
Speaker 2: I think it's important to know that it's it's a
29:26
Speaker 2: great thing. It's not. It's actually funny, but bug out
29:29
Speaker 2: on this. Yahweh was created as a contrast to Obgyptian
29:35
Speaker 2: cosmology and their donkey headed god. Right was was Set
29:40
Speaker 2: the Kao and Set is the god of chaotic creation
29:45
Speaker 2: and destruction.
29:47
Speaker 3: As I was stating, polarity is.
29:52
Speaker 2: It's a useful consciousness formation, but it's not the only one.
29:56
Speaker 2: As soon as we get into where the own only one,
30:00
Speaker 2: then we're in this you know, you know, ruled by
30:03
Speaker 2: signs and symbols type of thing. But the donkey headed
30:06
Speaker 2: god was kind of used to mock the Egyptians, primarily.
30:11
Speaker 4: At first, yes, in a complete and opposition to Osiris,
30:17
Speaker 4: the pharaoh drowning that that was the.
30:20
Speaker 2: Positivity and and and re rising and rejuvenation and all
30:25
Speaker 2: these positive concepts that are in that esoteric Uh exactly. Yeah,
30:31
Speaker 2: and Astra kind of has parallels with that too.
30:35
Speaker 4: But it reminded time of just.
30:38
Speaker 2: Real quick that like we kind of they made our
30:41
Speaker 2: way into this capitalist system rather than monothis system over
30:45
Speaker 2: the last two thousand years, and then the symbols of
30:49
Speaker 2: our capitalist system were the World Trade Center and they
30:54
Speaker 2: were destroyed. So this, I feel like the symbolism of
30:58
Speaker 2: the duality of polarity Asher and Yahweh or World Trade
31:02
Speaker 2: Centers one and two are are similar and correspond with
31:07
Speaker 2: this kind of.
31:08
Speaker 3: Uh I got so many.
31:14
Speaker 2: Or hija the hijacking of it, right, So thanks, thanks
31:20
Speaker 2: right right?
31:21
Speaker 3: So you you brought up Yahweh as being the god
31:23
Speaker 3: of both chaos and order. Well, Isaiah forty five seven
31:28
Speaker 3: spells it out in black and white. Isaiah forty five
31:31
Speaker 3: seven says, I form the light and create darkness, I
31:34
Speaker 3: make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all
31:38
Speaker 3: these things. So this is a very different conception from
31:42
Speaker 3: what we have in the popular Christian mythos, which is
31:45
Speaker 3: actually God is against evil. It's like, no, actually all
31:49
Speaker 3: the evil comes from him. So you know, when they say, well,
31:52
Speaker 3: evil is just the devoid of God, it's like, actually,
31:55
Speaker 3: Isaiah forty five seven really kind of throws that away.
31:58
Speaker 3: So what their not understanding is that there's a cyclicality
32:03
Speaker 3: that they constantly play into. And one of the good
32:07
Speaker 3: examples is recently on the Alex Jones Show, he had
32:10
Speaker 3: a miracle happit, so he had an acts battle acts.
32:13
Speaker 4: Oh my god, if this isn't acting, dude, I don't
32:17
Speaker 4: know what is. Oh god, I was laughing.
32:23
Speaker 3: You don't. You don't even know half of it. So
32:25
Speaker 3: this comes from Jeremiah fifty one twenty of fifty one.
32:34
Speaker 1: Two.
32:36
Speaker 4: What Ethan was saying about the similarities between Yahweh and Set, Dude,
32:42
Speaker 4: it's something that we've been actually bringing up here, here
32:44
Speaker 4: and there on the Rustic Gods show. We got one
32:50
Speaker 4: coming soon, guys, don't worry this next week. But uh yeah, man,
32:55
Speaker 4: it's it's there. It's there, and it's clear. It's clear.
32:58
Speaker 4: And if y'all didn't see Yahweh had spots on him,
33:01
Speaker 4: Set was sometimes known to have parts of a leopard
33:05
Speaker 4: on him, right, So, hm.
33:08
Speaker 3: Leopard spots, those represent the.
33:10
Speaker 4: Stalls and the anteaterns that Yahweh had in that picture.
33:14
Speaker 4: You know Set was also known to have that as well,
33:17
Speaker 4: So you know.
33:20
Speaker 3: That gets really deep. It says, okay, so this is
33:23
Speaker 3: the verse that they're referring to. In that Alex Jones clip,
33:26
Speaker 3: it says you are my war club. Now the war
33:28
Speaker 3: club in some translations is a battle axe, my weapon
33:33
Speaker 3: for battle. With you, I will shatter the nations. Now
33:36
Speaker 3: this nation's word is interesting because it's translated from the
33:40
Speaker 3: Hebrew word for goyam. I shatter the goyam with you,
33:45
Speaker 3: I destroy kingdom. So in him receiving this battle axe
33:49
Speaker 3: and being given the ability to destroy his own people, right,
33:53
Speaker 3: so this is the miracle he's talking about. I've been
33:56
Speaker 3: given the tool that's going to be used to destroy
34:00
Speaker 3: my own people. This is the miracle. Yeah, Alex Jones,
34:04
Speaker 3: you got a sign from the god who creates destruction.
34:09
Speaker 3: But you know, of course he doesn't read too much
34:11
Speaker 3: into it because it's the word of God and I
34:12
Speaker 3: don't need to think about these sort of things.
34:14
Speaker 4: But play the video starts crying, and that's when I
34:19
Speaker 4: started laughing because I was like, dude, this is faker
34:22
Speaker 4: than when he snook into bohemian glo. Yeah, and he
34:27
Speaker 4: was invited.
34:28
Speaker 1: Yeah.
34:31
Speaker 3: Immediately after this video, Trump comes out with his truth
34:35
Speaker 3: so social tweet where he's calling Alex Jones, h Tucker Carlson,
34:40
Speaker 3: Candae Owens all these people low IQ losers, and his
34:43
Speaker 3: response to it is, look at this low IQ battle
34:47
Speaker 3: axe that I'm going to use to destroy my own
34:49
Speaker 3: people with. It's like, come on, dude, It's like that
34:52
Speaker 3: kind of proves the point here. Dude. All you're doing
34:55
Speaker 3: is making people dumber when they believe, because you know,
34:59
Speaker 3: here's the problem. How does voodoo work. You got to
35:03
Speaker 3: believe in it for it to work on you. Well,
35:05
Speaker 3: how's the Bible work? You got to believe in it
35:08
Speaker 3: for it to work on you. So all of these
35:10
Speaker 3: people engaging in this prophetic uh uh, you know, prognostication
35:15
Speaker 3: and all the rest of this stuff they're bringing about
35:18
Speaker 3: their eventual downfall, and they all say it's a good
35:20
Speaker 3: thing that they will eventually be destroyed and ruled by
35:24
Speaker 3: their their Jewish overlords, which will be the Messianic age.
35:28
Speaker 3: And it's like, don't you understand that all of these
35:31
Speaker 3: verses that they haven't read about destroying you. They just
35:37
Speaker 3: think it's glorious. Yeah, they think it's glorious that they're
35:39
Speaker 3: going to be destroyed. And they all agree with.
35:47
Speaker 4: People, you know, some people by God.
35:51
Speaker 3: How do you go against an order by God? How
35:53
Speaker 3: do you go against this God? You believe in all powerful, almighty?
35:58
Speaker 3: And this is the spiritualism the age. Instead of thinking
36:01
Speaker 3: that the material world is what's giving birth to the
36:04
Speaker 3: spirit and giving birth to these higher realms of consciousness,
36:07
Speaker 3: they see it as the higher realms of consciousness are
36:10
Speaker 3: directly impacting them all the time, so they don't have
36:14
Speaker 3: sort of that interplay between these two ideas, and essentially
36:17
Speaker 3: they're creating their own destruction and their own downfall. This
36:20
Speaker 3: was known about before the piss and Age, like they
36:25
Speaker 3: kind of understood, Hey, we're kind of creating this reality
36:28
Speaker 3: and we're doing the things that make us the fingers
36:31
Speaker 3: of God. Now it's the exact opposite, Like, I have
36:35
Speaker 3: no choice but to do what God has willed me
36:37
Speaker 3: to do.
36:38
Speaker 2: The current situation kind of seems so dark that things
36:42
Speaker 2: point in the direction of all these estrological apocalyptic things occurring.
36:48
Speaker 2: But they always have been in that modality, right, They've
36:53
Speaker 2: always been kind of like looking for the order of
36:56
Speaker 2: operations for the destruction, whether it was one century or another,
37:01
Speaker 2: there were certain people looking at things that with that
37:05
Speaker 2: perspective only.
37:06
Speaker 3: Right, Well, even the Jewish calendar, which only spanned six
37:10
Speaker 3: thousand years. It's it's coming to an end soon, and
37:14
Speaker 3: it's coming to an end in an age that's ruled
37:16
Speaker 3: by Saturn.
37:17
Speaker 4: Right.
37:17
Speaker 3: We see the black cube everywhere. So if you look
37:20
Speaker 3: up Saturn and the Golden Age.
37:26
Speaker 1: Well, you know that's something I wanted to mention, just
37:27
Speaker 1: real quick way to bring it up. Saturn. There's just
37:30
Speaker 1: one thing I wanted to say. You know, even with
37:31
Speaker 1: the Quarius obviously you know, rules over Saturn, and you
37:34
Speaker 1: know we're talking about polarity before, and from my opinion
37:38
Speaker 1: there is just for me, there is some sort of
37:41
Speaker 1: polarity with Saturn. But I think like the part that
37:43
Speaker 1: gets missed, Like you know, with Saturn, I do think
37:45
Speaker 1: there is the death and then the rebirth, and I
37:47
Speaker 1: think those are two separate things. But I think in
37:50
Speaker 1: the middle is that our chemical change in between those
37:53
Speaker 1: two happening, the transformation. And I think sometimes that's what
37:57
Speaker 1: gets totally lost.
38:00
Speaker 3: Right, because they have no concept of rebirth into matter. Right,
38:04
Speaker 3: So Saturn and the Golden Age. So if we look
38:06
Speaker 3: at this, what does this sound like? The Golden Age
38:09
Speaker 3: of Saturn or Saturnia Reggio, was a mythical era in
38:13
Speaker 3: Roman mythology characterized by peace, agricultural abundance, social equality under
38:19
Speaker 3: the reign of the god Saturn. What does that sound like?
38:21
Speaker 3: During this time, humanity lived without laws, greed, labor, reflecting
38:26
Speaker 3: an idyllic state of nature. Does that sound like what
38:29
Speaker 3: the end times or when Jesus's rule on the earth
38:32
Speaker 3: is supposed to be. It's not a lot of coincidence
38:34
Speaker 3: because it's also in the Book of Genesis right when
38:37
Speaker 3: they were living in the garden of Eden with God,
38:40
Speaker 3: with l with Yahweh right. So he's associated with agriculture,
38:44
Speaker 3: liberation time conflated with the Greek Titan Chronos. He was
38:49
Speaker 3: believed to have brought civilization to Italy, an era of
38:53
Speaker 3: perpetual spring, where the earth brought forth food freely and
38:57
Speaker 3: people live simply and harmoniously. Lot Us this perspective on
39:01
Speaker 3: the Saturnian Age entirely with the death of the Roman era.
39:05
Speaker 3: We just think the Saturnian Age is a thing that
39:08
Speaker 3: only applies to the Bible. This is why you see
39:11
Speaker 3: black cubes everywhere. They're wanting to return to the Saturnian era,
39:16
Speaker 3: the Saturnian epoch of all everything being free and wonderful
39:20
Speaker 3: and good, and so all these people say, oh, that's
39:23
Speaker 3: a black cube of Saturn. They have no idea what
39:25
Speaker 3: it means. They have absolutely no clue what they're even
39:28
Speaker 3: pointing at. It's crazy to me.
39:32
Speaker 1: The mathematics is involved in a cube in esotericism is insane.
39:39
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you see the cube of Saturn on top
39:42
Speaker 3: of the planet itself turned on its edge. Oh did
39:45
Speaker 3: Ethan drop out?
39:46
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, connection.
39:50
Speaker 3: But they're all demonizing the era of Saturn while at
39:54
Speaker 3: the same time praising the era of Saturn. Right, they're saying, oh,
39:57
Speaker 3: it's these Saturnian cube worship. It's like you're a s
40:01
Speaker 3: attorney in cube worship or two. You just don't understand it.
40:04
Speaker 3: It's right there in the Bible. If you're able to
40:06
Speaker 3: understand the syncretisms that were going on in the Mediterranean world,
40:10
Speaker 3: you'd instantly recognize what the edemic era is and what
40:15
Speaker 3: the age of the Return Jesus is. It's the Saturnian era. Well,
40:20
Speaker 3: guess what that six thousand year cycle is ending. So
40:24
Speaker 3: they believe they're coming into their Saturnian era where they
40:27
Speaker 3: can reign with all of these verses in Isaiah and
40:30
Speaker 3: Jeremiah and all the rest of the stuff about the
40:32
Speaker 3: only way you can enter the Saturneian era is by
40:35
Speaker 3: destroying all the other nations. You've got to kill them completely.
40:39
Speaker 3: That's how you enter into this Golden era. Well, why
40:44
Speaker 3: are we following that book? That doesn't make any sense?
40:50
Speaker 1: I agree with that, ethan Ozi back.
40:58
Speaker 3: Is having connection issues book.
41:02
Speaker 2: Hopefully I don't skip out again.
41:04
Speaker 1: I think.
41:07
Speaker 3: But I mean, this is one of the things that
41:09
Speaker 3: we constantly see having to do with the Age of Aquarius.
41:13
Speaker 3: This is what those hippies were talking about too. It's like, well,
41:15
Speaker 3: it's going to be ruled by Saturn, so it's going
41:17
Speaker 3: to be kind of like this other stuff. Well, there's
41:19
Speaker 3: a lot more to it than that, and this Golden
41:22
Speaker 3: Era might be something different from what all of these
41:25
Speaker 3: Cube worshipers are expecting, And I kind of think that's
41:29
Speaker 3: a good thing. No more weaponized love, no more of
41:31
Speaker 3: this communistic sort of totalitarianism. That's I mean, that's kind
41:39
Speaker 3: of a pleasant change, you know, But who knows, I hope.
41:45
Speaker 2: So it's potential for sure.
41:50
Speaker 3: And you know, Christianity did give us communism. I'm tired
41:53
Speaker 3: of people staying that it didn't. It's right there in
41:55
Speaker 3: the book. You could read about Antonys and Sapphira and
41:58
Speaker 3: Acts chapter five versus one through eleven, where oh, they
42:01
Speaker 3: didn't sell all of their goods or they kept some
42:04
Speaker 3: of it for themselves, so Yahweh had to kill them
42:07
Speaker 3: on the site. And then Peter used that as a
42:09
Speaker 3: tool to scare the rest of the followers of Jesus
42:12
Speaker 3: had to giving everything they had over to the church.
42:15
Speaker 3: It's like, what do you think in people? Just read
42:18
Speaker 3: it with your own eyes.
42:20
Speaker 2: Oh, and the Soviet system kind of had this like
42:24
Speaker 2: God as the state right like, and it was very
42:28
Speaker 2: much oriented in that same direction as you're pointing out.
42:33
Speaker 2: But it was the state as the God did well.
42:38
Speaker 3: I mean, like everybody wants to blame shift away from
42:40
Speaker 3: what the people in Israel are doing right now to
42:44
Speaker 3: somehow Babylon, and it's like, where do you think they
42:47
Speaker 3: picked up a lot of this theology from, Like, it
42:50
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be the Iraqis. You guys keep blaming
42:52
Speaker 3: Babylon and the Iraqis, but the people who picked up
42:55
Speaker 3: all of that stuff and put that into their book
42:58
Speaker 3: in the Septuagint, which was written at around one twenty
43:02
Speaker 3: to one sixty BC. We're not talking about three thousand
43:06
Speaker 3: years ago. We're talking about one twenty to one sixty
43:09
Speaker 3: BC's when the septuagent was compiled. They had that conception
43:14
Speaker 3: from the surrounding culture. So if they carried anything over
43:18
Speaker 3: from Babylon, it would still be them and not the Babylonians,
43:21
Speaker 3: because the Babylonians were completely gone by that time. It
43:24
Speaker 3: was the Persians over there. So why do we keep
43:27
Speaker 3: blaming Babylon It was you know, they were stories by
43:31
Speaker 3: that time. It was already Persian. It was deep into
43:34
Speaker 3: the Hellenistic era. But no, it's got to be three
43:37
Speaker 3: thousand years old. It's the same thing with Edom. I
43:40
Speaker 3: don't know how many of you guys have seen the
43:42
Speaker 3: people spurging out over Edom. Do you know where Edom is?
43:46
Speaker 4: Know who's spurging there's a lot of.
43:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're Edom Maxica. So a lot of Christians believe
43:53
Speaker 3: the Old Testament when they're talking about Esou going into
43:56
Speaker 3: Edom and then mixing with the Canaanite women and he
44:00
Speaker 3: created the Kingdom of Edom. Which was pure evil. Edom
44:05
Speaker 3: is Petra. You guys have seen the lost city of
44:08
Speaker 3: Petra with the big giant stone carvings where they have right, well,
44:14
Speaker 3: that's edom So they're spurging about edom and not even
44:18
Speaker 3: knowing what it is. They have a grudge against people
44:20
Speaker 3: who aren't even there anymore, and they're saying, these Edomites
44:23
Speaker 3: are controlling the whole world and they don't even know
44:27
Speaker 3: that it's Petra. You know, even in their own even
44:31
Speaker 3: in their own book of revelations, they say that all
44:33
Speaker 3: of the believers will be gathered in the city of
44:36
Speaker 3: Petra to be protected from the Gog and Magog war.
44:40
Speaker 3: Because you know, Petra's in a valley that is actually
44:43
Speaker 3: protected on all side by rock, So it makes sense
44:46
Speaker 3: why people would gather there to be protected from a
44:48
Speaker 3: nuclear war or whatever. Well, that's still the place where
44:54
Speaker 3: you say all of the evil and the Bible comes from.
44:56
Speaker 3: It's like, these are the Edomites. How does that make sense? Well,
45:00
Speaker 3: they don't have to square it, because all they have
45:02
Speaker 3: to do is repeat it. That's the problem I see
45:04
Speaker 3: with the pissy and age. It's like one fish repeating
45:07
Speaker 3: what the other fish is saying and going back and
45:09
Speaker 3: forth and making this sort of self fulfilling prophecy based
45:14
Speaker 3: upon somebody else's stories, Like why are we obsessed with
45:18
Speaker 3: things that have gone on in the Middle East two
45:20
Speaker 3: thousand years ago that has nothing to do with our history.
45:24
Speaker 2: Apparently those people from Petra were like really rugged nomads.
45:30
Speaker 2: You know, they traveled with a tent and had maybe
45:33
Speaker 2: this and that, and knew where these water wells were
45:37
Speaker 2: and well survive. And anyone who tried to I died again.
45:45
Speaker 2: I was saying, anyone who tried to mess with the
45:47
Speaker 2: people from Pestra, they always got their ass kicked.
45:51
Speaker 4: Yep, Well they got their wells poisoned? Is that what
45:54
Speaker 4: you're saying.
45:54
Speaker 3: So they tried, they couldn't find.
45:59
Speaker 2: I think they always is like beat any invader up
46:02
Speaker 2: basically essentially, and might be this like leftover hatred for
46:08
Speaker 2: them being tough, and yes, exactly doesn't right, It makes
46:13
Speaker 2: no sense and doesn't is impertinent anything.
46:16
Speaker 3: The Edomites didn't let the Jewish people into their region
46:19
Speaker 3: and take all of their stuff. That's why they have
46:21
Speaker 3: a beef with them.
46:23
Speaker 4: Okay, I see what you're saying.
46:24
Speaker 2: Okay, several groups tried to the Roman.
46:31
Speaker 4: You're right, they just refer to them. They grouped them
46:34
Speaker 4: up by these names, right.
46:36
Speaker 3: Right, right, And so it's like, guys, you're carrying grudges
46:41
Speaker 3: that aren't even yours, from thousands of years ago, that
46:44
Speaker 3: have nothing to do with you. And when you point
46:46
Speaker 3: it out to them, they're like, well, actually, no, this
46:49
Speaker 3: is how they're controlling the world today. It's this Babylonian
46:51
Speaker 3: money magic. It's like Iraqis aren't controlling your dollar. I'm sorry,
46:55
Speaker 3: what are you thinking? It has nothing to do with
46:58
Speaker 3: this book. You're not looking at it with any kind
47:00
Speaker 3: of perspective because you think the guys in the Old
47:03
Speaker 3: Testament were all the good guys. It's that same metaphysical.
47:08
Speaker 4: And people want to say I'm not fucking done for Israel,
47:11
Speaker 4: and I'm like, are you spiritually dying for Israel?
47:16
Speaker 2: I'm sure that.
47:19
Speaker 4: I mean, because I mean, I have we need another crusade?
47:24
Speaker 3: Why do you want to go to Israel? Don't we
47:26
Speaker 3: have Holy landed?
47:27
Speaker 5: Or are you? Why can't we We need to just
47:30
Speaker 5: leave them alone, man, you know, because and people are
47:35
Speaker 5: seeing now it's the same people who have been supporting uh,
47:38
Speaker 5: you know, Trump for the past eight years or whatever,
47:42
Speaker 5: are now the ones that are going to be calling
47:44
Speaker 5: him the Antichrist probably, you know what I mean, And
47:47
Speaker 5: they'll be the ones leading that narrative.
47:49
Speaker 4: As well, so they'll have the controlled op in order,
47:52
Speaker 4: you know.
47:53
Speaker 3: But this this kind of exemplifies a little bit of
47:55
Speaker 3: the tribalism that goes along with the uh the aquarian age, right,
48:01
Speaker 3: So they talk about an age of peace where people
48:04
Speaker 3: can come together again. What they're talking about is you
48:07
Speaker 3: can no longer divide them against each other, kind of
48:10
Speaker 3: like with the pisce and Fish. So when you see
48:12
Speaker 3: people like Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones and all of
48:16
Speaker 3: these other people who are originally fully on board with
48:20
Speaker 3: the Trump train hopping off the Trump train because they
48:23
Speaker 3: have a more tribal loyalty that shows that they're less
48:28
Speaker 3: able to be pressured by the top down social pressure
48:32
Speaker 3: that comes along with the pisce And era. They have
48:35
Speaker 3: more of a tribal loyalty to themselves than to this
48:38
Speaker 3: authority figure, which is a very good sign in my
48:41
Speaker 3: fit eyes. But you know, they're still using the vernacular
48:45
Speaker 3: and the vocabulary of the pisc And age to try
48:49
Speaker 3: and justify why they're doing that, which is another big
48:52
Speaker 3: problem because they'll just get taken in by the next
48:54
Speaker 3: big con man.
48:56
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean we don't know what are we
48:59
Speaker 4: don't know where our language comes from. I mean we
49:01
Speaker 4: do obviously, or we're trying to learn, right, But most
49:05
Speaker 4: people don't. They's just given, you know, they learn what
49:09
Speaker 4: they're given. That's kind of unfortunate, and that's why it's
49:13
Speaker 4: very suppressed. All that information I didn't know about. Like dude,
49:20
Speaker 4: if you would have asked me five years ago about
49:24
Speaker 4: European culture and the history, I I would not have
49:27
Speaker 4: known this, right, like being in conspiracy and like, dude,
49:32
Speaker 4: holy shit, it can change so much just knowing, uh,
49:40
Speaker 4: you know where we come from and and who's been
49:43
Speaker 4: writing history and the the bias and lens that history
49:47
Speaker 4: has been written from. Right, It's it's clear as day.
49:52
Speaker 4: And you look, you know, to the victors go the spoils, right.
49:56
Speaker 3: So well, I mean there's there's there's so much that
50:00
Speaker 3: we can learn from the orphic hymn to Kronos that
50:03
Speaker 3: I think everybody is overlooking because you know, again the
50:06
Speaker 3: piss and age is the era of Kronos or Saturn.
50:11
Speaker 3: So let me see if I can pull this up.
50:13
Speaker 3: So you guys can see it, but it is. It
50:16
Speaker 3: is amazing how accurate this is to the idea of
50:20
Speaker 3: time and what what maybe we might be going into.
50:24
Speaker 3: Let me share my screen here. Did you did you
50:27
Speaker 3: have something there on? Nick?
50:29
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, it was a star card. I just
50:31
Speaker 1: wanted to bring that up at some point because Aquarius
50:33
Speaker 1: does go with it, you know, and I I do
50:38
Speaker 1: think like you know again, I would even say the
50:42
Speaker 1: transmission stuff. You would see that with the cups, the
50:45
Speaker 1: water and the flow. You know my experience. The weird
50:49
Speaker 1: thing about it is how you have like but this
50:52
Speaker 1: you have like an eight pointed star and then you
50:54
Speaker 1: have a seven seven stars around it. You know, if
50:58
Speaker 1: you saw going capitalistically, that would be in like the
51:00
Speaker 1: male and the female in one two, which when you're
51:05
Speaker 1: still looking at this, I was even wondering, like, is
51:07
Speaker 1: this even like almost an androgenoust figure. I can't tell,
51:10
Speaker 1: or is it just like, you know, not a manly
51:13
Speaker 1: faced chick. I don't know, like just but uh, one
51:18
Speaker 1: thing I was thinking about, you know, this whole thing
51:19
Speaker 1: would saturn and like the death and the rebirth and
51:23
Speaker 1: all that, you know, just to go even back to
51:27
Speaker 1: my experience, I always say that that whole thing that
51:30
Speaker 1: leads up to me coming to some understanding. All starts
51:33
Speaker 1: off with a star in the distance, so you know,
51:38
Speaker 1: and then you know, the whole water in the abyss
51:42
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, I wonder if that has anything
51:44
Speaker 1: to do with it, because then I could see how
51:46
Speaker 1: like transmission, knowledge and understanding would then come from having
51:51
Speaker 1: this experience, and it'd be more of like the mind
51:55
Speaker 1: more of it. You know, air even though there's water
52:00
Speaker 1: in the.
52:00
Speaker 3: Simm right, Well, you can see that both of those
52:06
Speaker 3: cups she's pouring out are doing so through the air, right,
52:10
Speaker 3: So there's also that idea that there's this watery air
52:15
Speaker 3: and the cup bearer. I'm sure we're going to get
52:17
Speaker 3: into it, but this goes into where the sign comes
52:20
Speaker 3: from and how they created it, having to do with
52:23
Speaker 3: the cup bearer of Zeus the Catamite, right, So I
52:28
Speaker 3: see a lot of comparisons with Epstein, right, and the Kadamites.
52:33
Speaker 3: I mean, this is sort of like a big thing.
52:36
Speaker 3: The whole country's freaking out over the Catamites in power
52:41
Speaker 3: right now, and we're seeing that as the symbol of
52:44
Speaker 3: you know, the aquarium age coming to fruition. Epstein is
52:49
Speaker 3: not going away. Milania. Trump just made a statement the
52:53
Speaker 3: other day about you know, well, I didn't have anything
52:55
Speaker 3: to do with Epstein. It's like a second.
52:59
Speaker 1: You know what's funny. You guys were saying something before
53:01
Speaker 1: and I did want to add this in and I'm
53:02
Speaker 1: not like denying, so you know what you were saying
53:05
Speaker 1: with like these people all of a sudden turning on
53:07
Speaker 1: Trump out, but I do question Hold on, calm down, Julie. Sorry,
53:12
Speaker 1: I'm sorry sorry that you know, just my opinion. A
53:17
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff I think is all just the script.
53:19
Speaker 1: And I think these people are already jumping board to
53:22
Speaker 1: the next continuing thing. Because you just mentioned Malania at
53:27
Speaker 1: Trump and now there's footage of him trying to hold
53:29
Speaker 1: her hand and she won't hold his hand. Like we're
53:31
Speaker 1: already getting the script. Something's gonna happen. Jd Vance was
53:35
Speaker 1: already given like twenty million dollars. Obviously he's going to
53:37
Speaker 1: be president at some point. He took it up the
53:40
Speaker 1: ass for Peter Teal and he got paid money, so
53:42
Speaker 1: he's going to be president big time right there.
53:45
Speaker 3: They're script writers. That's what all of this stuff comes
53:48
Speaker 3: down to.
53:50
Speaker 2: I think Teal's gonna get excuse me. Vance Vance Teal's
53:55
Speaker 2: buddy is going to get thrown under the bus as
53:58
Speaker 2: the failure for the current UH talks. And then he's
54:05
Speaker 2: gonna Trump's gonna cast a version on him for X,
54:07
Speaker 2: Y and Z.
54:08
Speaker 3: After that, it's gonna be hake Seth advanced. They get
54:12
Speaker 3: all of the blame because they're gonna try and keep it.
54:15
Speaker 3: I mean, Trump is just that matty.
54:18
Speaker 2: Yep, you're just there for blame.
54:20
Speaker 1: Go ahead, jewels, He's he's dynasais than that.
54:25
Speaker 4: It's nothing I have to say. Meet Cavern, thank you
54:28
Speaker 4: for the the fifty dollars donation.
54:31
Speaker 1: Oh shit, look at that.
54:32
Speaker 4: Okay, he said, mail me stickers, faggot, and then said
54:37
Speaker 4: need stickers lick the stamp jewels. Another fight, and that
54:43
Speaker 4: was twenty ten five stamps, stickers lick the stamp. Now, Julie,
54:49
Speaker 4: do you want me to just lick something? Watch stickers?
54:54
Speaker 4: Put my stickers in the mail. Meet Damn. I'm sorry.
54:59
Speaker 4: I got you, dude. I got that. Oh shit, And
55:02
Speaker 4: I got some packs going out. There's some fat packs.
55:04
Speaker 4: It's good ship, it's nice and I've been dude, I
55:08
Speaker 4: have I got masked ran at work. It's like literally
55:10
Speaker 4: just fucking I've just been getting I feel like I've
55:14
Speaker 4: been getting shit kicked out of me. Okay, but anyway, sorry, Nick,
55:21
Speaker 4: I don't want to hijack your I. Uh I thought
55:25
Speaker 4: I haven't gotten Rumble rant in a while. Uh meet Cavern.
55:32
Speaker 4: Thank you dude.
55:33
Speaker 1: How much does Rumble take for their just just quite.
55:35
Speaker 4: Just wants too much?
55:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's just just real quick, just for
55:39
Speaker 1: people listening on both our channels. I believe me. You're
55:42
Speaker 1: gonna send me a super chat. I think that's fucking awesome.
55:44
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. But I'm just gonna keep it real.
55:47
Speaker 1: You send a super chat on YouTube and Rumble. I
55:49
Speaker 1: know for YouTube they are taking thirty something percent. I'm
55:52
Speaker 1: gonna keep it real. When Howard sent five hundred dollars
55:55
Speaker 1: about a month ago, YouTube got two hundred. YouTube got
55:59
Speaker 1: two to that. If you want, if you're feeling that generous,
56:04
Speaker 1: seriously throw it into a cash app please, because you're
56:09
Speaker 1: actually giving YouTube a fuck ton of money for nothing.
56:12
Speaker 4: Thank you, Howard, dude, fucking a Howard. Howard's the man.
56:16
Speaker 4: Howard shows up to all the morning Wood shows. Thank you, Howard.
56:19
Speaker 1: Just just to be in the middle of a transaction.
56:21
Speaker 1: They take air. That's sick.
56:23
Speaker 4: That's awesome though, that that you have people.
56:26
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, I almost fell out of the show.
56:28
Speaker 4: I just got to a thousand on YouTube. So I
56:30
Speaker 4: think I have to set something up to where people
56:33
Speaker 4: can do super chats. I don't know, I'm pretty sure,
56:37
Speaker 4: So thank you again. Me cavern Nick. I'm sorry.
56:41
Speaker 1: Oh no, you're good. No, you're good. Please mention that.
56:44
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy just threw you some money say
56:45
Speaker 1: something on the show.
56:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, I started making noises.
56:49
Speaker 1: Oh no, I thought you were like you connected that
56:51
Speaker 1: that was something. I was like, Oh, this gets ready
56:52
Speaker 1: to go. We just finished.
56:56
Speaker 4: You guys are talking about astrology, and I am dumb,
57:01
Speaker 4: very dumb. I haven't had a one o one on it.
57:03
Speaker 4: I haven't done deep dives on it. I just I
57:07
Speaker 4: know about the twelve zodiac and the the symbolism with
57:09
Speaker 4: the twelve and how you know, the the astro theology stuff.
57:13
Speaker 4: I'm familiar with that, and I can recognize that zodiac
57:20
Speaker 4: will signs. But besides that, you guys, yeah, you're you're
57:25
Speaker 4: killing it so.
57:27
Speaker 3: Well. I got this right here. So this is the
57:29
Speaker 3: orphic hymn to Chronos. Now, this is the original conception
57:34
Speaker 3: of how they saw chronos as opposed to this evil,
57:38
Speaker 3: terrible tyrant that we get today in modern podcasts and stuff.
57:44
Speaker 3: So ethereal Father Might and tight mighty Titan here great
57:48
Speaker 3: fire of gods and men whom all revere and dude
57:53
Speaker 3: with various council. That means that a lot of different
57:56
Speaker 3: forces are talking to him, pure and strong, to whom
58:00
Speaker 3: perfection and decrease below. That sounds like entropy to me,
58:04
Speaker 3: consumed by thee all forms that hourly die well avarice.
58:10
Speaker 1: Avarice is the vice of Saturn anyway, which would be
58:14
Speaker 1: you can go what you just.
58:16
Speaker 3: Said, which would be YouTube. Right, We're just talking about
58:21
Speaker 3: the avarice of YouTube. That's a huge percentage that they're
58:24
Speaker 3: taken away from all of these different creators, and they're
58:26
Speaker 3: the watery air sign.
58:27
Speaker 2: So go figure.
58:30
Speaker 3: By the restored again, birth and death and rebirth by
58:35
Speaker 3: the restored their former place supply. So this is rebirth
58:40
Speaker 3: right there. The world emits in everlasting chains, right chains
58:45
Speaker 3: of time. Everything dies, strong and ineffable. Thy power contains right.
58:51
Speaker 3: So all of this stuff is contained by Time, Father
58:55
Speaker 3: of vast eternity, divine again back to time, almighty, various
59:01
Speaker 3: speeches done. So this is also sort of like the
59:03
Speaker 3: god of all these different languages, right, blossom of the
59:08
Speaker 3: earth and of the starry skies, husband of Raya, and
59:12
Speaker 3: it's this is a misprint. It's supposed to be Prometheus wise,
59:16
Speaker 3: so he is husband of Raya and Prometheus wise Prometheus
59:19
Speaker 3: means forethought, and Raya is also known as kaibli obstetric nature.
59:26
Speaker 3: So this is not just birth or not just death,
59:28
Speaker 3: but also birth venerable root. And I think that's one
59:32
Speaker 3: of the most important things, because everybody is interested about
59:35
Speaker 3: the roots of where all of this stuff that exists
59:39
Speaker 3: in our society is coming from, from which the various
59:43
Speaker 3: forms of being shoot, right, So everything comes from a root.
59:48
Speaker 3: You've got to dig down to figure out exactly where
59:51
Speaker 3: it's coming from. And this is actually kind of very
59:54
Speaker 3: evolutionary speaking, like if you're talking about evolution. They just
59:57
Speaker 3: sort of mention it right here in passing. They kind
1:00:00
Speaker 3: of had that concept no parts peculiar, peculiar can thy
1:00:05
Speaker 3: power enclose. So he's saying, yeah, if you're strange or
1:00:10
Speaker 3: you're different, he's not the guy for you. Diffuse through
1:00:14
Speaker 3: all from which the world arose, Diffuse through all, so
1:00:19
Speaker 3: they're saying he's in everything, right, and saturn is also
1:00:22
Speaker 3: the god of bones, right, so anytime you see the
1:00:25
Speaker 3: grim reaper or these bones or the scythe that's all Saturnium, oh,
1:00:30
Speaker 3: best of beings of a subtle mind, right, not just direct,
1:00:34
Speaker 3: but also a lot of subtlety propitious, which means to
1:00:38
Speaker 3: give and to receive. Here to holy prayers incline. This
1:00:42
Speaker 3: is why you've got all of these sacrifices going on,
1:00:45
Speaker 3: the sacrificial tenets of the Saturnian cube, the sacred rights,
1:00:52
Speaker 3: benevolent attend and grant a blameless life and a blessed end.
1:00:58
Speaker 3: They kind of screwed up that translation a little bit,
1:01:01
Speaker 3: but you could see all of these different Satturneyan qualities
1:01:04
Speaker 3: that aren't really talked about. You get all the death,
1:01:06
Speaker 3: but you don't get any of the rebirth. You get
1:01:08
Speaker 3: all the end, but you don't understand that this is
1:01:11
Speaker 3: the springing fourth of something new that was the original
1:01:14
Speaker 3: purpose of Chronos. It's like he's the root of all
1:01:17
Speaker 3: of these different beings. So it's it's a very different
1:01:20
Speaker 3: perspective than what a lot of people have when it
1:01:22
Speaker 3: comes to Chronos. And I think having that perspective of
1:01:25
Speaker 3: death and impending doom is sort of where we're at
1:01:29
Speaker 3: right now, as everybody's in that sort of phase of
1:01:32
Speaker 3: chronos consciousness.
1:01:33
Speaker 1: That was one of the reasons why I had covered
1:01:36
Speaker 1: even Marsilio Fichimum. I mean, this was a while ago.
1:01:38
Speaker 1: It would have been more fitting if I dropped it now, obviously,
1:01:40
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, like his thing was like it's
1:01:44
Speaker 1: his thing was revolutionary kind of at the time that yes,
1:01:48
Speaker 1: there is the death, but then there's the rebirth. Why
1:01:50
Speaker 1: isn't anybody focusing on that? Everybody's just like the death
1:01:52
Speaker 1: to death he I think he even said to the
1:01:54
Speaker 1: point where it's like, it's morbid that all we're gonna
1:01:56
Speaker 1: just remember is a motherfucker basically nailed on across like
1:02:02
Speaker 1: like like what that's morning, Like there's nothing beyond that, dude,
1:02:09
Speaker 1: Like and and then to not know the esoteric symbolism
1:02:14
Speaker 1: behind all, you know, the crown of Thorns and three
1:02:17
Speaker 1: days in the tomb, everything I talk about on my show,
1:02:20
Speaker 1: you know.
1:02:21
Speaker 4: With the mystery schools and whatnot, will sure we'll be
1:02:24
Speaker 4: talking about tomorrow morning. You know, people turn a blind
1:02:28
Speaker 4: eye to that to just focus on the exoteric, because
1:02:31
Speaker 4: anything esoteric is is demonic, right.
1:02:35
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. They had to shoehorn so much
1:02:38
Speaker 3: symbolism into that whole death and rebirth phenomenon that they
1:02:43
Speaker 3: call it three days in the tomb. Friday night to
1:02:47
Speaker 3: Sat or Sunday morning is a day and a half.
1:02:50
Speaker 1: Right now, they say.
1:02:52
Speaker 3: It three days, and it's like, wait a second.
1:02:54
Speaker 4: Actually days not I don't think in the physical you
1:02:58
Speaker 4: know what I mean? In three days?
1:03:00
Speaker 3: It's the symbol that they had to shoehorn in there
1:03:02
Speaker 3: because of the three significance.
1:03:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got you.
1:03:09
Speaker 1: Who even knows what the fuck days even means? I mean,
1:03:12
Speaker 1: that could be a whole other thing in itself.
1:03:15
Speaker 4: Someone wants to step.
1:03:16
Speaker 1: Up, Yeah, I know. I saw that. I was like,
1:03:19
Speaker 1: you want to come on? I was like, this show
1:03:21
Speaker 1: just throws out for people. I didn't know we did
1:03:23
Speaker 1: that yet. I don't know that was normal.
1:03:25
Speaker 4: It's always yeah, I was.
1:03:27
Speaker 1: I was, you're nicer than me. I was ignoring it.
1:03:31
Speaker 1: I was like the first time I've seen you here,
1:03:33
Speaker 1: Sure fucking jump of come on.
1:03:35
Speaker 3: No, dude, that might be interesting having a college show
1:03:39
Speaker 3: with the Rejackson.
1:03:42
Speaker 1: Calling. I would probably I would risk that more. Actually,
1:03:44
Speaker 1: than than somebody coming up on the screen. Yeah, hm hmm.
1:03:50
Speaker 4: It's not that we don't want you on. It's just
1:03:52
Speaker 4: that we've never done that.
1:03:53
Speaker 1: I just don't do that, and so like.
1:03:55
Speaker 4: You know, this isn't and this is Nick Nick is.
1:03:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna keep it. Really, you could be
1:03:59
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. I have no idea what you want to
1:04:03
Speaker 1: come on to God in the morning?
1:04:04
Speaker 4: Would call in? I think we're about to start doing
1:04:08
Speaker 4: call ins on that show. It's my Patreon show that
1:04:10
Speaker 4: I stream live Saturday mornings and it goes private Saturday
1:04:14
Speaker 4: even but oh yeah, it's the the Commonwealth. I forgot
1:04:22
Speaker 4: hold on the Secret Commonwealth of Elves. If you were watching.
1:04:27
Speaker 1: It, have to give him that this person and we found.
1:04:30
Speaker 4: The translation that's not in the Old English, so you
1:04:33
Speaker 4: don't have to translate the F to the S and
1:04:35
Speaker 4: all that stuff. But then we're also reading the Mysteries
1:04:38
Speaker 4: of the Druids aka The Veil of Isis, and uh
1:04:42
Speaker 4: w Wyn would read he wrote it from a an
1:04:45
Speaker 4: unbiased point of view. He's not you know, he's not
1:04:48
Speaker 4: a pagan or a Christian, so he you know, I
1:04:50
Speaker 4: think he may have been agnostic maybe, but it's a
1:04:55
Speaker 4: good book, and he's talking about euhemerism, right, which is
1:04:58
Speaker 4: like christianization of ancient text, right headless?
1:05:02
Speaker 3: Right, Well, you hemerism is both. So you hemerism would
1:05:06
Speaker 3: be like making a person.
1:05:08
Speaker 4: To me, so I can understand it because I have
1:05:10
Speaker 4: to talk about it tomorrow or read about it.
1:05:12
Speaker 3: It's kind of like apotheosis, right, So you're you're lifting
1:05:15
Speaker 3: up a person from history up to divine status. So
1:05:19
Speaker 3: instead of apotheosis, which I sort of associate more with
1:05:23
Speaker 3: within the lifetime of the person, you hemerism would be
1:05:26
Speaker 3: way after their death. You would be lifting them up
1:05:29
Speaker 3: to a divine status.
1:05:30
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I understand.
1:05:32
Speaker 3: And that's right. That's what the saints would be all
1:05:35
Speaker 3: all the Saints would be a type of e hemeorrism
1:05:38
Speaker 3: because they're they're taking a person's life and they're lifting
1:05:40
Speaker 3: it up as a divine example for everybody else.
1:05:45
Speaker 4: Gotcha, Yeah, I thought, I don't know what it first
1:05:49
Speaker 4: too in the book.
1:05:50
Speaker 3: But Asclepias Asclepius was a real guy, and that you
1:05:55
Speaker 3: hemerized him after his death because he was such a good,
1:05:58
Speaker 3: gifted healer. And they did so by saying, oh, well,
1:06:01
Speaker 3: Zeus was actually so jealous of the fact that he
1:06:04
Speaker 3: would bring people back from death, that he had to
1:06:06
Speaker 3: kill him so that he couldn't do that anymore. But
1:06:09
Speaker 3: he was so well respected and so well loved that
1:06:12
Speaker 3: he got his own place of the stars, and he
1:06:15
Speaker 3: was given immortality by through the memory, and so that
1:06:18
Speaker 3: eu heemerism sort of survives with the asteroid Asclepius, which, uh,
1:06:26
Speaker 3: what's his name, the sleeping Prophet. I don't know why.
1:06:28
Speaker 3: I always blank got his name, but there's a fuck.
1:06:32
Speaker 3: It starts with the e sleeping prophet.
1:06:36
Speaker 1: How are you talking about? Fuck? I can't. Yeah, sleeping prophet,
1:06:39
Speaker 1: I know.
1:06:39
Speaker 3: But ed Casey, Edgar Casey, why Edgar Casey?
1:06:47
Speaker 4: He was a sickly boy, wasn't he?
1:06:49
Speaker 3: He was until he he developed these powers and that
1:06:52
Speaker 3: it sort of started coming out of his.
1:06:53
Speaker 4: Neck like crawa. He was fucked deadly ill until he
1:06:58
Speaker 4: moved back to Africa and put him in shaman school
1:07:01
Speaker 4: and he became a saying goma and then he's childing
1:07:04
Speaker 4: caves with like these statues. Dude, I I did some
1:07:07
Speaker 4: deep like some uh little watch parties back in the
1:07:11
Speaker 4: day on Gray pilld uh, where we watched these creato
1:07:14
Speaker 4: videos of him sitting in this cave, presenting these statues
1:07:17
Speaker 4: of these different like beings and stuff and talking about him.
1:07:20
Speaker 4: It's fascinating. He was friends with David Ike, so maybe
1:07:23
Speaker 4: you know, there was I don't think he was uh disingenuine,
1:07:30
Speaker 4: I think because I mean he he was a shaman, right,
1:07:32
Speaker 4: he this was a spiritual practice to him. It wasn't
1:07:35
Speaker 4: anything to play with or grift on or joke about.
1:07:39
Speaker 4: You know, they eat a human hand to become this
1:07:43
Speaker 4: same goma in this Yeah, dude, some pretty weird ship.
1:07:49
Speaker 4: But he had these encounters with these these creatures, and
1:07:52
Speaker 4: he talks about the first creatures on Earth being of
1:07:55
Speaker 4: like whale and dolphin kind of yeah, that kind of
1:07:59
Speaker 4: being or whatever you want to call that, cetaceans. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:08:04
Speaker 4: something to that. So, and you know, that's I don't know,
1:08:07
Speaker 4: but there's a lot of similarities there with what he taught.
1:08:10
Speaker 4: I love what he talks about. He talks about two
1:08:12
Speaker 4: parts to the soul and all this stuff, how one
1:08:15
Speaker 4: moves on and then there's this part of you that
1:08:18
Speaker 4: stays here kind of and then you know, I don't know.
1:08:21
Speaker 4: It's a great book that he has. It's called Zulu Shaman, right, Well, This.
1:08:27
Speaker 3: Is something that comes with a lot of the piss
1:08:30
Speaker 3: and Age too. By having this immortal struggle between good
1:08:34
Speaker 3: and evil, you lose the parts of the soul. Your
1:08:38
Speaker 3: soul can only be wholly one thing or the other,
1:08:41
Speaker 3: and it's going to one place or the other. So
1:08:44
Speaker 3: there's no more separation of the soul under the piss
1:08:48
Speaker 3: in age, right, this concept of separation of souls. You
1:08:52
Speaker 3: see this all over Egyptian literature. It's a little bit
1:08:56
Speaker 3: obscure within the Greek literature, but they still have some
1:09:00
Speaker 3: in there. But then once you get into the piscy
1:09:03
Speaker 3: and Age and Christianity, the soul becomes one solid unit.
1:09:07
Speaker 3: It is no longer divided up into different places. So,
1:09:10
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to giving birth to children, they
1:09:14
Speaker 3: would say that part of your soul moves on with
1:09:17
Speaker 3: your children and moves on into the future that way,
1:09:21
Speaker 3: and then part of your soul passes on into the underworld,
1:09:23
Speaker 3: goes into the afterlife. Well, you don't really get that,
1:09:27
Speaker 3: and you actually have to get rid of kind of
1:09:29
Speaker 3: the concept of reincarnation with the piscy and age philosophies
1:09:32
Speaker 3: as well, because that actually destroys some of this duality
1:09:38
Speaker 3: when it comes to good and evil, because now you
1:09:40
Speaker 3: know what part of your soul could be punished and
1:09:42
Speaker 3: another part could be blessed. You know, we can't do
1:09:45
Speaker 3: that anymore because there is only one person that's a
1:09:48
Speaker 3: full unit, and everything you do cannot be broken down
1:09:51
Speaker 3: into what you do. It has to be labeled with
1:09:53
Speaker 3: a metaphysical thing that makes you all good or all evil.
1:09:57
Speaker 3: When we know that not to be true. You know,
1:09:59
Speaker 3: it's that's just nobody's all good and all evil. Most
1:10:04
Speaker 3: people at least.
1:10:07
Speaker 2: And many people we have an unconscious aspect that might
1:10:12
Speaker 2: be highly negative and even self destructive. And then we have,
1:10:16
Speaker 2: you know, our overt mask, if you will, as a
1:10:20
Speaker 2: psychologists might put it. And and I think what you
1:10:25
Speaker 2: just lay down have this is kind of like the
1:10:28
Speaker 2: esoteric understanding of the hermaphrodite, bringing those two forces together.
1:10:35
Speaker 2: The forces aren't this perverse physicality that gets interpreted now.
1:10:41
Speaker 2: It's not an external thing, it's an internal thing. Right
1:10:45
Speaker 2: of many such cases, this hermetic out, this hermetic or
1:10:51
Speaker 2: half hermaphroditic alchemy, is internal and unconscious. As Young put it,
1:10:58
Speaker 2: every man has his anima and every woman has his animus,
1:11:04
Speaker 2: and bringing those two forces to get together is super powerful,
1:11:11
Speaker 2: abstractly or otherwise. I wanted to say too that there's
1:11:16
Speaker 2: a kung Fu expression that says one sickness as a
1:11:22
Speaker 2: youth long life, no sickness as a youth short life.
1:11:28
Speaker 2: And the lesson. There's many stories about really profound martial artists.
1:11:32
Speaker 1: I was.
1:11:34
Speaker 2: So sick, and and the lesson we get out of
1:11:38
Speaker 2: that is, yo, I gotta like keep my ish together
1:11:42
Speaker 2: right and or I have to do this. They might
1:11:45
Speaker 2: find a practice that empowers them and keeps them healthy.
1:11:49
Speaker 2: Often is the story, right, But the idea is that
1:11:54
Speaker 2: it's it's counterintuitive, right, you have to It's the paradox
1:11:58
Speaker 2: kind of of that duality of polarity mentioned earlier.
1:12:01
Speaker 3: Well, the duality of polarity, I think actually reflects the
1:12:04
Speaker 3: deeper truth of distributed consciousness. Everybody sort of has the
1:12:08
Speaker 3: idea that everything has to be one thing or another,
1:12:11
Speaker 3: but really it's all reflecting off of each other. You
1:12:15
Speaker 3: can't have a conception of good without the conception of evil.
1:12:20
Speaker 3: These two things play perfectly together and their responses to
1:12:24
Speaker 3: one another. You can't have, you know, up without a down.
1:12:28
Speaker 3: All of these things only exist in reflection to each other.
1:12:32
Speaker 3: That's the distributed nature of reactivity and reflexivity that's not
1:12:37
Speaker 3: reflected in monotheism. Everything has to be this way from
1:12:41
Speaker 3: the beginning, and there's no reflexive actions or things like that.
1:12:45
Speaker 3: So really, I think, you know, this is an exciting
1:12:48
Speaker 3: time for philosophy. We've sort of been stagnated on philosophy
1:12:51
Speaker 3: for a long time, but you know, now we're starting
1:12:54
Speaker 3: to get away from the unitary ideals of philosophy and
1:12:58
Speaker 3: into more of that distributed understanding, which this is where
1:13:01
Speaker 3: we're getting AI from. You know, that's sort of the
1:13:04
Speaker 3: philosophical grounding for it.
1:13:08
Speaker 1: Well said, So.
1:13:12
Speaker 3: I also have the orphic hymn to Jupiter. Don't think
1:13:16
Speaker 3: I'm being anti jubiterarian here, people, but see if you
1:13:19
Speaker 3: could actually link some of this stuff to the age
1:13:22
Speaker 3: of Pisces. All right, so let me start up here.
1:13:27
Speaker 3: It starts out with.
1:13:28
Speaker 4: Oh Joe, is this him?
1:13:31
Speaker 3: Yes? And these were written down in the second century
1:13:36
Speaker 3: a d. But they go way way way back before that.
1:13:38
Speaker 3: These are just the ones that we have that survived.
1:13:41
Speaker 3: It says, Oh Jove, much honored, Jove, supremely great to
1:13:44
Speaker 3: the our holy rights we consecrate. So each one of
1:13:47
Speaker 3: these hymns were part of rights that they considered to
1:13:52
Speaker 3: be initiations of sorts. Right, our prayers and expiations, King Divine,
1:13:58
Speaker 3: For all things round, the head is an exalted shine.
1:14:02
Speaker 3: Do you guys know the story of Athena vaguely? Well? Okay,
1:14:07
Speaker 3: Athena was what happened when he was in a shape
1:14:10
Speaker 3: shifting contest with his second wife, right, and he transforms
1:14:15
Speaker 3: into a drop of water, and she has to transform
1:14:18
Speaker 3: into a drop of water too, And when she transforms
1:14:21
Speaker 3: into a drop of water, he eats her just to
1:14:24
Speaker 3: you know, make sure that she can't actually produce the
1:14:26
Speaker 3: offspring that are going to unseat him. Right. Well, after
1:14:31
Speaker 3: he eats her, he gets this splitting headache, and hy
1:14:35
Speaker 3: Festus or one of the ares I believe, comes up
1:14:38
Speaker 3: with a hammer and smashes him in the head and
1:14:41
Speaker 3: out pops Athena. For all things around my head is
1:14:45
Speaker 3: altered shine. This is kind of the idea of the
1:14:49
Speaker 3: I guess gnosticism, or the idea that we live in
1:14:54
Speaker 3: a simulation. It's all in the noose of Zeus. It's
1:14:58
Speaker 3: all in the head of the God. Right. It's interesting
1:15:04
Speaker 3: that they're talking about that here. We kind of had
1:15:06
Speaker 3: that concept, But there's so many different references to the
1:15:09
Speaker 3: head of Zeus is being sort of like the basis
1:15:12
Speaker 3: or spiritual point for all existence on the planet. The
1:15:15
Speaker 3: earth is dyed, and mountains swelling high, the sea profound,
1:15:19
Speaker 3: and all within the sky. The sea profound and all
1:15:23
Speaker 3: within the sky. Does that sound like the waters above
1:15:26
Speaker 3: and the waters below? Saturnian king descended from above, right,
1:15:32
Speaker 3: Saturnian meaning he took the seat of his father Kronos
1:15:37
Speaker 3: or Saturn magnanimous, commanding, scepted jove. Right. So obviously this
1:15:45
Speaker 3: has to do with the you know, monotheism right there, right,
1:15:50
Speaker 3: So he is the solar, you know sol sceptor, bearer
1:15:55
Speaker 3: all parent principle and end of all all parent right,
1:16:00
Speaker 3: he is the parent of everything. Right, So this actually
1:16:04
Speaker 3: goes into a lot of yahwism too, whose power almighty
1:16:07
Speaker 3: shakes this earthly ball again, All punishments come from this God.
1:16:13
Speaker 3: Even nature trembles at the mighty nod, right, All punishments
1:16:17
Speaker 3: right comes from this God, loud sounding, armed with lightning,
1:16:22
Speaker 3: thundering God. Lightning obviously transforms into this this aquarium age too.
1:16:29
Speaker 3: You're gonna have lightning coming through the sky as the
1:16:33
Speaker 3: water is falling from it.
1:16:34
Speaker 4: Who's also represented as lightning, right, Lucifer. And then you
1:16:38
Speaker 4: have you know, other day and he's like Zeus thor Donnar.
1:16:44
Speaker 4: You know, there's a long list.
1:16:48
Speaker 6: But.
1:16:49
Speaker 3: Right, but essentially the hell yeah, perfect example, like thunder
1:16:55
Speaker 3: gods sort of command this aid. Like those are the
1:16:58
Speaker 3: ones that came into the roots of this, you know,
1:17:02
Speaker 3: Pissian age. Right, who's let me see even nature no
1:17:07
Speaker 3: loud sounding, armed with lightning. And again in our minds
1:17:10
Speaker 3: we're full of lightning. I mean, all of our nerves
1:17:13
Speaker 3: are connected by electricity. You know, we were in the
1:17:17
Speaker 3: like the end of this age was like all about
1:17:20
Speaker 3: electrical devices and electrical engineering, and we're sort of moving
1:17:24
Speaker 3: away from that into this distributed intelligence things which it's
1:17:27
Speaker 3: like powers everywhere. Actually it's not coming from a single source.
1:17:31
Speaker 3: It can be found absolutely everywhere. Loud sounding or a
1:17:35
Speaker 3: source of abundance, purifying king. When they would ask for
1:17:41
Speaker 3: forgiveness from the gods in the ancient Greek days, they
1:17:44
Speaker 3: would ask it from Jupiter, from Zeus, right, he was
1:17:48
Speaker 3: the one who would give you the purification, oh various
1:17:52
Speaker 3: formed from whom all nature springs. There we go back
1:17:55
Speaker 3: to that Kronos concept too, right, there's various forms from
1:18:00
Speaker 3: whom all nature springs. It's back to the head of
1:18:03
Speaker 3: Zeus or the news of Zeus concept propitious. Here my prayer,
1:18:08
Speaker 3: give me blameless health, blameless health. So they would also
1:18:12
Speaker 3: associate illnesses with being guilty of certain things, and then
1:18:16
Speaker 3: your your health would take a dive too with peace
1:18:19
Speaker 3: divide and necessary wealth, necessary wealth kind of a contrast,
1:18:27
Speaker 3: but you could see a lot of the same elements
1:18:29
Speaker 3: on both the Kronos and the Jubiterarian, you know, hymns
1:18:34
Speaker 3: to these different deities used as an initiation for them.
1:18:38
Speaker 2: It's interesting were most are all the orphic hymns put
1:18:43
Speaker 2: to paper or if you will, or put into legible
1:18:47
Speaker 2: form around that same time period.
1:18:49
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was when they were all written down,
1:18:51
Speaker 3: But they were used in these temples for you know,
1:18:53
Speaker 3: one hundreds of years. Lots of different versions of them too,
1:18:57
Speaker 3: based upon their their placement.
1:19:02
Speaker 2: That makes sense. I was gonna say, it's interesting that
1:19:05
Speaker 2: this time period that you mentioned earlier is around the
1:19:08
Speaker 2: same time period that they formulated the Septugen and that's
1:19:13
Speaker 2: right before the Pissian Age began. So it's almost like
1:19:17
Speaker 2: they're setting the stage with these text tool out layouts
1:19:22
Speaker 2: of programming. I don't want to say programming as if
1:19:25
Speaker 2: it's a bad thing, but entirely bad thing, but just
1:19:28
Speaker 2: programming right well.
1:19:30
Speaker 3: SMS brings up an interesting point about baptism being part
1:19:34
Speaker 3: of the pissi at age two, because baptism was a
1:19:37
Speaker 3: very very old practice before it became solely about the
1:19:43
Speaker 3: Jesus concept. This was part of a cleansing process to
1:19:47
Speaker 3: where the gods would find you blameless, so you would
1:19:49
Speaker 3: have to do baptism and ritual fasting before you could
1:19:53
Speaker 3: come into the temples and do things like the Ascleppiat
1:19:56
Speaker 3: temple to try and heal yourself through dreams. And again
1:20:00
Speaker 3: you know Edgar Casey, he was the sleeping prophet as
1:20:03
Speaker 3: he was under a trance, that's when this healer spirit
1:20:06
Speaker 3: would come out of him and he would diagnose people
1:20:08
Speaker 3: of their illnesses and try and heal them that way.
1:20:11
Speaker 3: Very very Esclepion, you know. And part of the Esclepian
1:20:15
Speaker 3: temple was having to take ritual baths, having to do
1:20:19
Speaker 3: ritual baptisms. It was about the number of times you
1:20:22
Speaker 3: bathed and the number of times that you found, number
1:20:25
Speaker 3: of days you fasted. But this natural separation between night
1:20:29
Speaker 3: and day were seen as these tools of counting, tools
1:20:34
Speaker 3: of creating these different epochs, and and you know, going
1:20:38
Speaker 3: into the Great Year, it's sort of like you add
1:20:41
Speaker 3: up all of these these days into a single great year,
1:20:45
Speaker 3: and then all of the decisions and all of the
1:20:49
Speaker 3: you know, choices you make still apply to these symbolic references. Right,
1:20:54
Speaker 3: So there's like you can make all the choices you
1:20:57
Speaker 3: want to that are are different, but it's because it's
1:21:00
Speaker 3: still going to have an underlying essence that applies to
1:21:05
Speaker 3: these different eras and epochs you can map out. It's
1:21:09
Speaker 3: not like you can find the finger of God in
1:21:12
Speaker 3: any of these different epochs or eras, because every single
1:21:16
Speaker 3: step along the way is going to be a clear,
1:21:18
Speaker 3: concise problem, reaction, solution, idea. Right, So all of this
1:21:24
Speaker 3: stuff makes perfect logical sense, but it all still applies
1:21:28
Speaker 3: in a very metaphysical concept to the original kind of
1:21:33
Speaker 3: symbol that you're in. So you can kind of see
1:21:36
Speaker 3: life on Earth as either ascending or descending along the
1:21:39
Speaker 3: same lines that are given in these generalized symbolic prophecies.
1:21:45
Speaker 3: Kind of like that's that's kind of what this whole
1:21:47
Speaker 3: thing is is all about prophecy. Once you know the
1:21:50
Speaker 3: signs and the symbols, you can prophesy both the good
1:21:53
Speaker 3: and the bad that can come with those different essences.
1:22:02
Speaker 1: H what happened to jewels?
1:22:06
Speaker 3: He's back? He changes, Uh, back up here?
1:22:09
Speaker 4: No, sorry, dude, my son had walked in. He was
1:22:12
Speaker 4: riding bike and brought it. He tried to open the garage,
1:22:15
Speaker 4: but we're not having all that, having all that. Unfortunately,
1:22:20
Speaker 4: I'm in my garage.
1:22:21
Speaker 1: So oh that's right, you are right. Yeah.
1:22:25
Speaker 3: Always that's the studio.
1:22:28
Speaker 5: Too.
1:22:29
Speaker 4: He can try to fix his house up, sell it
1:22:32
Speaker 4: and get bigger house, you know, American dream. Uh, American dream.
1:22:40
Speaker 4: It's a good house.
1:22:44
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny that, you know. He brings up the
1:22:46
Speaker 3: septu agent because septuogen does mean seventy, but there were
1:22:50
Speaker 3: seventy two books or seventy three books in the original septuagen.
1:22:54
Speaker 3: They called it the septuagen specifically for the numerical properties
1:22:58
Speaker 3: of seventy. Right, So they talked about the seventy priests
1:23:04
Speaker 3: from Israel that contained all of this stuff, all of
1:23:07
Speaker 3: this knowledge, and these seventy priests were from the twelve tribes.
1:23:12
Speaker 3: So they're just going through all of this numerological basis
1:23:16
Speaker 3: for this book, which gives them the ability to say
1:23:19
Speaker 3: this is the word of God, because back then it
1:23:21
Speaker 3: was even known that mathematics is the language of God.
1:23:24
Speaker 3: We've done a little bit of that on the seven
1:23:26
Speaker 3: seven seven shows that we do because it's still part
1:23:29
Speaker 3: of the same understanding that was around in the classical era.
1:23:34
Speaker 3: It's like numbers, words and letters all come to this
1:23:38
Speaker 3: single language of symbols, and I.
1:23:41
Speaker 2: Forget if it was Tiamat or a different Canaanite iteration
1:23:47
Speaker 2: of a feminine goddess, but she had seventy children as
1:23:52
Speaker 2: the story goes, which I think kind of again, the
1:23:55
Speaker 2: seventy back then really kind of harkened onto all of
1:23:58
Speaker 2: these anthetic, potentially negative, potentially positive things that people were
1:24:06
Speaker 2: symbolically in line with.
1:24:08
Speaker 3: Seventy had the concept of completion with it back then.
1:24:11
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if it still has that sort of
1:24:14
Speaker 3: connotation now. But basically, what they would be doing is
1:24:17
Speaker 3: observing these numbers in relationship to the objects that they represent,
1:24:22
Speaker 3: and then coming to a conclusion based upon this ideal.
1:24:26
Speaker 3: So this is where you get isopsyphy from. This is
1:24:28
Speaker 3: where you get all of these different cabbalistic concepts from
1:24:31
Speaker 3: it's this massive compendium of observation going along with the
1:24:38
Speaker 3: quality of numbers, not just the quantity.
1:24:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big difference.
1:24:48
Speaker 3: Right, But I think it's completely lost to us. We
1:24:50
Speaker 3: don't ascribe any sort of quality to numbers nowadays. But
1:24:53
Speaker 3: if you look at you know, statistical mathematics and a
1:24:57
Speaker 3: lot of these other things, it points to a quality numbers. Right.
1:25:01
Speaker 3: The quality of numbers is just kind of missing from
1:25:04
Speaker 3: our society, even though there is certain qualities that I
1:25:07
Speaker 3: think a lot of people can find. I know I've
1:25:10
Speaker 3: probably brought it up before, but there's this law. It's
1:25:13
Speaker 3: called Benford's law.
1:25:17
Speaker 1: Oh, yes you have. Yeah, what is that?
1:25:19
Speaker 4: Like the three sixty nine thing.
1:25:22
Speaker 3: It's a little different. So yeah, let me see.
1:25:25
Speaker 4: If I can get what you're saying though about numbers.
1:25:28
Speaker 3: Right. So here's a good example of quality numbers as
1:25:32
Speaker 3: opposed to quantity. Right. So what you got with Benford's
1:25:37
Speaker 3: law is that it describes a relatively relative frequency of numbers.
1:25:43
Speaker 3: So one has a relative frequency of thirty point one percent.
1:25:49
Speaker 3: So you're gonna find a one near the front of
1:25:52
Speaker 3: any number at about thirty point one percent, and then
1:25:56
Speaker 3: number two comes up at about seventeen point six percent.
1:26:00
Speaker 3: So if your number that doesn't ascribe to these things,
1:26:05
Speaker 3: and the more numbers you make up and the more
1:26:07
Speaker 3: numbers you write down, you can tell whether or not
1:26:10
Speaker 3: it's a human made number, because they're not going to
1:26:12
Speaker 3: know these specific qualities to numbers. So this frequency is
1:26:17
Speaker 3: going to tell you whether or not somebody is just
1:26:19
Speaker 3: making up numbers and throwing them on a graph, or
1:26:22
Speaker 3: whether or not they are naturally occurring. Right, So this
1:26:26
Speaker 3: is what the IRS uses to find tax cheats, because
1:26:28
Speaker 3: if all you're doing is writing down numbers and you
1:26:30
Speaker 3: don't know Benford's law, you're going to get caught. They
1:26:33
Speaker 3: can tell by the frequency that these numbers pop up
1:26:37
Speaker 3: and in which position. So this descending arc is how
1:26:41
Speaker 3: they catch you. It applies that there's a quality to
1:26:46
Speaker 3: numbers that a lot of people don't know about because
1:26:49
Speaker 3: we've divorced ourselves from the idea that numbers have a
1:26:51
Speaker 3: quality to them.
1:26:54
Speaker 2: Yes, this has been used to to find potentially fraudulent
1:27:00
Speaker 2: activity and elections too.
1:27:02
Speaker 4: Right.
1:27:03
Speaker 3: Absolutely, if if the people making up the numbers at
1:27:06
Speaker 3: the election booth don't follow Benford's law, you can be
1:27:10
Speaker 3: assured that yes, somebody's in there changing around the election totals.
1:27:15
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, makes sense.
1:27:17
Speaker 1: That's wild Shika.
1:27:21
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Well, what do you think, guys? That was a
1:27:25
Speaker 3: great episode. I think we put a lot of information
1:27:28
Speaker 3: out there for sure.
1:27:29
Speaker 4: For sure, I definitely know a little bit more about
1:27:31
Speaker 4: the age age of Aquarius now before you know, I
1:27:35
Speaker 4: knew of it, but.
1:27:36
Speaker 3: I it was hippy stuff.
1:27:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew about it.
1:27:44
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm hopeful this is my white pill.
1:27:53
Speaker 4: This kind of makes sense more about you know, everything
1:27:58
Speaker 4: that's happening just I mean, I don't know. We'll see, man,
1:28:04
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens with uh on. What's happening on
1:28:08
Speaker 4: the main stage right now is pretty funny, I think
1:28:11
Speaker 4: because it's stuff we've been talking about for a while,
1:28:13
Speaker 4: and now it's stuff that like the normies or whatever
1:28:17
Speaker 4: are kind of catching up with, and so it's funny
1:28:21
Speaker 4: when everyone starts finding out about stuff and I'm doing
1:28:26
Speaker 4: my part. Dude, like I said, haven't been streaming a
1:28:29
Speaker 4: lot lately, so I don't know. I appreciate you guys
1:28:34
Speaker 4: for having me on.
1:28:35
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, no, I'm glad you can make it.
1:28:36
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
1:28:39
Speaker 3: Well, I want to say before we close it up.
1:28:41
Speaker 3: All action proceeds from thought. The way you think about
1:28:46
Speaker 3: the universe is the way you're going to start behaving
1:28:49
Speaker 3: and acting. So the cosmology shifting and all the rest
1:28:53
Speaker 3: of the stuff is going to change the way people
1:28:55
Speaker 3: around you behave. And I think that thought is being
1:28:58
Speaker 3: influenced by cosmic force, you know. That's that's sort of
1:29:03
Speaker 3: where I see these ages and eras coming in, is
1:29:06
Speaker 3: that these cosmic forces, subtle they though they may be,
1:29:09
Speaker 3: do have an effect on the way people think about
1:29:12
Speaker 3: the world around Now.
1:29:14
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would even say, I mean that even
1:29:18
Speaker 1: can go to the extreme where somebody's gonna create this
1:29:21
Speaker 1: whole false reality they live in to begin.
1:29:24
Speaker 3: With, which is another problem with the Aquarian age. False
1:29:29
Speaker 3: realities are going to be everywhere.
1:29:32
Speaker 4: Pretty hard trying to keep the gray pill gray lately,
1:29:36
Speaker 4: but we're, you know, trying to maintain it and try
1:29:39
Speaker 4: not to get to black pilled. But yet except reality,
1:29:43
Speaker 4: the truth is not comfortable, guys. Truth is not comfortable.
1:29:48
Speaker 1: Uh No, that's a good point.
1:29:51
Speaker 4: You can learn how to work around what's going on. Obviously,
1:29:57
Speaker 4: you have a will to live, and like I said,
1:30:02
Speaker 4: I don't think people need to be discouraged by this right.
1:30:06
Speaker 4: I think this is a time for people to learn
1:30:09
Speaker 4: and to try to expand their consciousness a little bit,
1:30:12
Speaker 4: try to you know. I mean, that's that's what's helped me.
1:30:15
Speaker 3: So again, like I say all the time, our reality
1:30:22
Speaker 3: is fifty percent inner and fifty percent outer, and it's
1:30:25
Speaker 3: when that balance gets out of whack that we start
1:30:29
Speaker 3: to find out that, you know, maybe we got to
1:30:31
Speaker 3: take a step back and take a look at ourselves
1:30:33
Speaker 3: or look at the situation we're in and see how
1:30:36
Speaker 3: we can change that. But this is all the reactive,
1:30:39
Speaker 3: distributed intelligent stuff that's coming out in philosophy now, is
1:30:44
Speaker 3: you got to change yourself if you want a better reality.
1:30:46
Speaker 3: That that's that's part of it.
1:30:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would even say, like you know, even with
1:30:50
Speaker 1: the way technology is getting, it's you know, kind of
1:30:53
Speaker 1: even coming into the age of just information, you know,
1:30:57
Speaker 1: and eventually you're going to maybe figure out that ideas
1:31:00
Speaker 1: that you had before.
1:31:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you're you're you're one hundred percent right man. Yeah,
1:31:11
Speaker 4: when you open new doors and you you know, you're
1:31:16
Speaker 4: these you kind of get these paradigm shifts right to where, uh,
1:31:20
Speaker 4: all this new information opens up and you kind of
1:31:22
Speaker 4: have to for me. It's it's relearning history a little bit.
1:31:26
Speaker 4: You know, not enough people focused. So I'm gonna be
1:31:29
Speaker 4: focusing on history, especially like Bronze Age history. Uh here
1:31:33
Speaker 4: the next uh this next year. So a lot of
1:31:37
Speaker 4: that philosophy things that haven't really been I haven't dived
1:31:40
Speaker 4: into too much, so got to expand a little bit.
1:31:44
Speaker 4: We'll still be talking about conspiracies and esoteric occult symbolism obviously,
1:31:50
Speaker 4: but you know, I want to get into your your
1:31:55
Speaker 4: ideas change, and so you know, your rhetoric changes, and
1:31:58
Speaker 4: some people don't agree, you know, some people, and that's fine.
1:32:02
Speaker 4: I wish everyone well on their own path. But everyone knows,
1:32:05
Speaker 4: especially if you've been watching my show from early on,
1:32:08
Speaker 4: that it's it's it's uh, it's been like a spiritual
1:32:13
Speaker 4: journey for me as well, you know, and people can
1:32:15
Speaker 4: go and you can watch from episode one, you can
1:32:17
Speaker 4: kind of witness it.
1:32:20
Speaker 1: Oh, I would even say that.
1:32:22
Speaker 4: I mean, on this show, I'm very transparent with my
1:32:25
Speaker 4: audience to my detriment. H you know, you may intiquate
1:32:32
Speaker 4: that with autism or something. Yeah, I I I don't know,
1:32:39
Speaker 4: I don't really care. I just like to talk to
1:32:42
Speaker 4: people about what what I've learned about. And that's what
1:32:45
Speaker 4: the show started. As you know, I was like, I'm
1:32:46
Speaker 4: gonna go crazy if I don't start talking to people
1:32:48
Speaker 4: about these things. And that goes back to questioning everything, right,
1:32:51
Speaker 4: Like now, people can't go outside of this one box. Right,
1:32:55
Speaker 4: can't question religion. You can't question the Bible, you can't
1:32:57
Speaker 4: question Jesus. You can't question like the the where everything
1:33:01
Speaker 4: originates from, and and and like I've been talking about
1:33:04
Speaker 4: a lot lately, the lens in which history has been
1:33:07
Speaker 4: written and presented to I think very important. I think
1:33:12
Speaker 4: that's very important, especially you know, I mean ten ten
1:33:15
Speaker 4: years back. I mean I I was probably an atheist.
1:33:19
Speaker 4: I don't think I was even not considered myself like
1:33:22
Speaker 4: an esoteric Christian or whatever I used to call myself.
1:33:27
Speaker 4: But you know, I never would have thought I would
1:33:31
Speaker 4: have learned the things that I've learned now. It's it's incredible,
1:33:34
Speaker 4: you know what, Like like I said earlier, you open
1:33:38
Speaker 4: these doors. What opening a couple of doors can do
1:33:40
Speaker 4: for you? Sure help me out as far as being
1:33:44
Speaker 4: a father, you know, being a husband, as as a man,
1:33:48
Speaker 4: in dealing with my own trauma and shit happening in
1:33:51
Speaker 4: my life, my father in law being murdered, all that shit.
1:33:53
Speaker 4: You know, this this knowledge and this kind of learning
1:33:56
Speaker 4: how to uh you know, be the spiritual person who
1:34:01
Speaker 4: I am, right because I talk about it a lot
1:34:04
Speaker 4: on my show. You know it has helped me. It
1:34:07
Speaker 4: has helped me. And I wouldn't be talking about this
1:34:09
Speaker 4: esoteric knowledge and all this stuff if it if it
1:34:12
Speaker 4: didn't help me, right, if it harmd me in any
1:34:15
Speaker 4: way or didn't bring any anything good to my life,
1:34:18
Speaker 4: I'd be like, hey, yeah, he may need to stay
1:34:19
Speaker 4: away from this. I wouldn't be grifting it, just like
1:34:21
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna grift anything to anyone, you know what
1:34:24
Speaker 4: I mean. I'm not gonna do it for money. I'm
1:34:25
Speaker 4: not gonna do it for subscribers or followers or anything.
1:34:30
Speaker 4: So yeah, anyway, Sorry, Nick, didn't mean to go off
1:34:36
Speaker 4: on a tangent.
1:34:36
Speaker 1: No, I think he actually made a really good point.
1:34:38
Speaker 1: It's something I kind of want to like piggyback.
1:34:42
Speaker 4: Is that.
1:34:42
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I feel when it comes to ocultist
1:34:46
Speaker 1: there at least the people that are on this show,
1:34:48
Speaker 1: and I think it's actually more than half to begin
1:34:51
Speaker 1: with anyway, But you know, a lot of us are
1:34:53
Speaker 1: actually just like trying to figure out, like God, how
1:34:56
Speaker 1: to be a better person creation, Like that's on our
1:35:01
Speaker 1: minds almost all the time. And then you have some
1:35:03
Speaker 1: person who plays to be a Christian once they hit
1:35:06
Speaker 1: record and they have some of the biggest pieces of
1:35:09
Speaker 1: shit in the world, and it's like they're just saying
1:35:14
Speaker 1: that we're fucked up, and it's like, no, we actually
1:35:16
Speaker 1: think about Probably it's in a certain sense the same
1:35:19
Speaker 1: gods as you're just looking and fucked up, you know,
1:35:23
Speaker 1: more than you ever do. We actually judge ourselves more
1:35:27
Speaker 1: than you fucking do. Like it's just so fucking back,
1:35:32
Speaker 1: it's backwards, man.
1:35:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been a lot of rhetoric on the internet
1:35:36
Speaker 4: lately now you see if like you know, this end
1:35:40
Speaker 4: time stuff going on, and I think people really need
1:35:43
Speaker 4: to take a step back and look at the information
1:35:46
Speaker 4: where it's coming from. And then you know, take a
1:35:49
Speaker 4: look at this people's rhetoric towards you, what they think
1:35:53
Speaker 4: about you. And you know, I just uh, you know,
1:35:59
Speaker 4: like I told lists or when when when when we
1:36:01
Speaker 4: were talking, you know, the same people that were supporting
1:36:06
Speaker 4: Trump this the last however long uh, you know, and yeah,
1:36:10
Speaker 4: I voted for him twelve years ago or whatever, and
1:36:13
Speaker 4: then I didn't vote because I'm like, yeah, you know,
1:36:15
Speaker 4: it's all selected. And then this last time, I was like, yeah,
1:36:17
Speaker 4: I know, he's a Zionist piece of shit, Like I'm
1:36:20
Speaker 4: not voting for that motherfucker. You know. But dude, they're
1:36:26
Speaker 4: the same people that are going to be pushing this
1:36:28
Speaker 4: antichrist narrative. You know that he is fulfilling suddenly right
1:36:33
Speaker 4: like it was he And there's been people that have
1:36:36
Speaker 4: called this I'm not going to say any names. They're
1:36:38
Speaker 4: not very liked among uh you know, our community or whatever,
1:36:43
Speaker 4: like the conspiracy whatever you want to call it, but
1:36:47
Speaker 4: uh or you know, and that that comes with speaking
1:36:51
Speaker 4: the truth, right, But they they've been right about some things.
1:36:54
Speaker 4: People that I don't agree with on everything, still gotta
1:36:56
Speaker 4: admit they've been right about something. And they've called that,
1:37:00
Speaker 4: you know, Trump was going to be this you know,
1:37:04
Speaker 4: this hero to Israel and then he was gonna withdraw
1:37:08
Speaker 4: from the war, right, and it would fulfill this prophecy,
1:37:11
Speaker 4: and it's like, well, you know, like it's it's a
1:37:15
Speaker 4: it's a candy man. But uh, yeah, you know, you
1:37:21
Speaker 4: know a lot of these people that talk about this
1:37:25
Speaker 4: online and yeah, dude there their shadow band and kicked
1:37:28
Speaker 4: off of everything, and they're the ones being canceled and
1:37:31
Speaker 4: the ones speaking out against it, because, like I've said
1:37:33
Speaker 4: a thousand times, religion is used as a cudgel against
1:37:37
Speaker 4: specifically white Europeans and then everyone else, you know, but
1:37:41
Speaker 4: it is used against us because people don't understand the esoteric.
1:37:45
Speaker 4: And that goes back to what else I was talking about.
1:37:48
Speaker 4: And these are rants or whatever you want to call him,
1:37:51
Speaker 4: I don't care, but uh no, no, we don't understand
1:37:55
Speaker 4: the esoteric. How can you present the exoteric? Sorry, you
1:37:59
Speaker 4: think it's kind of like a like I see it
1:38:01
Speaker 4: as something that's hollow, right, yeah.
1:38:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, et yeah, because I want to say something.
1:38:08
Speaker 2: I just wanted to add that throughout recorded time, people
1:38:12
Speaker 2: have been hiding behind this shield of religion, mainly monotheism,
1:38:17
Speaker 2: the three main forms of monotheism with all their variations.
1:38:22
Speaker 2: People hide behind these religions and do dastardly things. When
1:38:28
Speaker 2: do people hide behind exploring spirituality, occultism and anesotericism. It's
1:38:33
Speaker 2: an exposure.
1:38:34
Speaker 4: It's we call out the ones that are weird or
1:38:37
Speaker 4: they do ship that's sure them out.
1:38:40
Speaker 2: And I'm just saying that it's it's by its format
1:38:45
Speaker 2: this religions hide these diabolical people the way they behave,
1:38:52
Speaker 2: whereas esotericism and internal arts and and all these related things,
1:38:57
Speaker 2: they're about exploring and sharing and de occultism, if you will,
1:39:02
Speaker 2: Whereas religion it's hide behind a shield and then do
1:39:06
Speaker 2: dastardly things with the people that are on the same tip.
1:39:11
Speaker 3: Well, just to restate and reiterate, I would say that
1:39:15
Speaker 3: authenticity doesn't mean that you're always right, but it does
1:39:19
Speaker 3: mean that you are always trying to stay true to yourself,
1:39:23
Speaker 3: aligning yourself with truth.
1:39:25
Speaker 4: I just always stay just trying to you know, if
1:39:27
Speaker 4: I'm not completely one hundred percent and I can't give
1:39:30
Speaker 4: you my I'm going to be like, dude, just you
1:39:32
Speaker 4: tell me. You know what I mean, I present this
1:39:35
Speaker 4: to you. You go do your research, come tell me,
1:39:38
Speaker 4: or take what I presented and look at it and
1:39:40
Speaker 4: see like, hey this you know, go go with what
1:39:45
Speaker 4: I mean. I don't know. There's always this other. There's
1:39:48
Speaker 4: always something we've learned or some kind of indoctrination from
1:39:51
Speaker 4: the past that sticks with us throughout life. And whenever
1:39:56
Speaker 4: it seems that we try to figure out some truth
1:39:58
Speaker 4: that it kind of like hits us and it's like, well, no,
1:40:01
Speaker 4: what about this, you know what I mean. And it's like, oh,
1:40:04
Speaker 4: I have to question that, And it's like well, yeah,
1:40:07
Speaker 4: I mean you should question it. But then if you
1:40:10
Speaker 4: question it too much, maybe start doubting it.
1:40:12
Speaker 1: You know.
1:40:13
Speaker 4: But like I said that, that's when I say, look
1:40:15
Speaker 4: at things from an unbiased, objective kind of point of
1:40:20
Speaker 4: view or lens. Especially when you start learning about history
1:40:24
Speaker 4: and you know, it's uh, it's incredible. You got to
1:40:30
Speaker 4: go relearn everything. Yeah, and you don't, you know, you
1:40:33
Speaker 4: still keep these things in mind that you've learned in
1:40:36
Speaker 4: the past, but you now know more, right, or you're
1:40:40
Speaker 4: learning more so.
1:40:42
Speaker 3: Well. Coping is the type of scapegoating that uses the
1:40:45
Speaker 3: innocent to protect the guilty.
1:40:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to everyone on their path, you know,
1:40:52
Speaker 4: stay true to yourself, know thyself, and question fucking everything.
1:40:57
Speaker 4: I mean that, Like I said earlier, the truth is
1:41:00
Speaker 4: not comfortable, but then you eventually you you learn to
1:41:07
Speaker 4: accept it and you learn how to navigate through it
1:41:10
Speaker 4: because you have the knowledge to be able to do that.
1:41:13
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, even with like the history of stuff, like
1:41:18
Speaker 1: you know, I'll start coming out it's gonna be quite
1:41:20
Speaker 1: obvious after a few weeks that I'm particularly pointing at Christianity,
1:41:26
Speaker 1: and that's what's all these shows start dropping. But it's
1:41:28
Speaker 1: like these people don't realize where the fuck they came
1:41:32
Speaker 1: from at all, not at all. They let the fucking
1:41:37
Speaker 1: Catholic Church tell them what the fucking belief You're still
1:41:41
Speaker 1: under somebody's fucking thumb and a slave and not to
1:41:46
Speaker 1: And this is the whole other thing that I want
1:41:47
Speaker 1: to get into too. And I'll take the Catholic Church
1:41:49
Speaker 1: and the Christian Church, me showing up on fucking mask
1:41:52
Speaker 1: once a week and me saying some of the fucking
1:41:55
Speaker 1: dude died for me, so I'm clear now, that is
1:41:58
Speaker 1: such a fucking week pussy fucking excuse to get into heaven.
1:42:01
Speaker 1: You did fucking nothing, You did nothing, You didn't even
1:42:05
Speaker 1: change who the fuck you are. And you want to
1:42:09
Speaker 1: come out of cultist? Who are people that fucking sit
1:42:11
Speaker 1: there and do shadow work and actually pray to God
1:42:13
Speaker 1: to fucking change. Oh yeah, this guy died so I
1:42:16
Speaker 1: can still be a fucking piece of shit, cheat on
1:42:19
Speaker 1: my wife and use bots on fucking on Twitter, and
1:42:22
Speaker 1: lie to all of my fucking listeners. I'm lying to
1:42:25
Speaker 1: all of them, because that's the Christian thing to do
1:42:27
Speaker 1: with bots. It's fucking insane. These people are fucked in
1:42:33
Speaker 1: the head and they have a microphone in front of
1:42:37
Speaker 1: them and they're fucking putting cancer into people's minds.
1:42:42
Speaker 4: Well, there is dangerous rhetoric out there. And that's when
1:42:44
Speaker 4: I say, you know, look at the stuff that Alex Jones,
1:42:47
Speaker 4: Candice Owens, all of them are presenting, and you see
1:42:49
Speaker 4: some of these other people, it's the same type of
1:42:53
Speaker 4: you know, talking points. And I'm like, wait a minute,
1:42:55
Speaker 4: don't you want to question that these people we know
1:42:58
Speaker 4: that they're full of shit or you should know. I mean,
1:43:02
Speaker 4: there may be people that watch my show that dude,
1:43:03
Speaker 4: trust info Wars and the Daily Whatever. Uh, you know,
1:43:11
Speaker 4: they don't want to question anything. Like I said, Man,
1:43:13
Speaker 4: the truth is not comfortable. It never is. It never
1:43:17
Speaker 4: was for me. This whole show, Episode five of Gray
1:43:21
Speaker 4: Pilled is is yahweh a dragon. It's me and Cody
1:43:26
Speaker 4: from Oddfellows talking about in the Tabernacle. He's described as
1:43:31
Speaker 4: having like smoke coming out of his nostrils or something
1:43:34
Speaker 4: or something weird, like he was filling up this tent
1:43:37
Speaker 4: with smoke and he needed all these animals and it's like,
1:43:40
Speaker 4: why does he need to eat all these animals?
1:43:42
Speaker 1: The guy of the munchies, he was, he's just fucking
1:43:44
Speaker 1: fucking dragon.
1:43:45
Speaker 4: Dude.
1:43:45
Speaker 3: Oh dude, it's so true. You know what uh lot Canada.
1:43:50
Speaker 4: Is aneage of this Ye may all be.
1:43:53
Speaker 3: Canda, bossam. It's literally cannabis. So all of these fumigations
1:43:57
Speaker 3: inside the temple where they're talking about on past over,
1:44:00
Speaker 3: we've got to put in six times the dose of kada, bossam.
1:44:03
Speaker 3: That's why they have these ropes tied to their legs.
1:44:05
Speaker 3: It's because they were getting in there and fumigating themselves
1:44:08
Speaker 3: to total retardation and if they fell over, they just
1:44:11
Speaker 3: drag them out.
1:44:12
Speaker 1: Wow.
1:44:13
Speaker 4: But look, I've said this before as well. I don't
1:44:17
Speaker 4: want to discourage anyone if they're on the right spiritual
1:44:20
Speaker 4: path whatever that is. Uh And and you know you
1:44:23
Speaker 4: have your healthy life and you're living well and your
1:44:28
Speaker 4: family is good and you know, I mean more power
1:44:31
Speaker 4: to you. But you know, I I just put out
1:44:34
Speaker 4: there what I've experienced and what I experienced, you know,
1:44:39
Speaker 4: like I said, very open with with my audience. So
1:44:42
Speaker 4: but anyway, I know it's getting late, guys. Sorry, I
1:44:46
Speaker 4: know I keep taking it off. I haven't been on.
1:44:53
Speaker 3: So I've got a debate going on with Eric claus
1:44:56
Speaker 3: And tomorrow about platinism, about whether or not Platinism was
1:44:59
Speaker 3: a positive of influence in ancient Greece or a negative one.
1:45:02
Speaker 3: So that's gonna be at one pm Central time, and
1:45:06
Speaker 3: I hope he brings so much of his uh of
1:45:09
Speaker 3: his bros along, because going against one guy who's a
1:45:12
Speaker 3: platinus that's not enough.
1:45:15
Speaker 4: Who is it Eric Clausen.
1:45:17
Speaker 3: He's like one of the biggest platinusts on Twitter. And
1:45:19
Speaker 3: I got all of the receipts too. I got other
1:45:22
Speaker 3: friends who are like, you've got to put down these platinus.
1:45:24
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a fantastic show. I hope you
1:45:27
Speaker 3: guys can join.
1:45:28
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, check that out after Jules show.
1:45:33
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I'll post a link to you guys if
1:45:35
Speaker 4: you'll want to come join us.
1:45:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would Julian to be the uh the moderator
1:45:40
Speaker 3: if you could.
1:45:41
Speaker 4: I'll try, man, I may have to.
1:45:44
Speaker 5: Uh.
1:45:44
Speaker 4: Well, I'm taking my kids tomorrow to this trying to
1:45:48
Speaker 4: do this hand of Sabazies deep dive, and I want
1:45:51
Speaker 4: to do it on Patreon because it's actually like it's
1:45:54
Speaker 4: it's I don't know it's going no, no, no, oh,
1:46:01
Speaker 4: don't allow dude. People are trying to sign into my
1:46:05
Speaker 4: uh my fucking device. People are trying to hack me.
1:46:11
Speaker 4: I gotta get a new VPN or I have to
1:46:14
Speaker 4: update my VPN. Let me do this real fast.
1:46:17
Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome. I just read that about the crows.
1:46:19
Speaker 3: That's great.
1:46:21
Speaker 4: What is this? What's happening?
1:46:25
Speaker 1: So the chats like, so, what do you teach your
1:46:27
Speaker 1: kids Christianity? And I was like, I have no kids,
1:46:30
Speaker 1: teach anybody?
1:46:33
Speaker 4: Well, I think, yeah, I'll tell you in a second.
1:46:36
Speaker 4: Hold on, let me do this real fast. Whoever is asking?
1:46:40
Speaker 1: And then yeah, so uh, Freda said he's my black
1:46:44
Speaker 1: steps on.
1:46:48
Speaker 4: Dude. I hope, I hope I remember this all right?
1:46:54
Speaker 1: Let me Uh is he the one who wrote that? No,
1:46:57
Speaker 1: he's not an occultist? Does he? He is not.
1:47:00
Speaker 3: He's the one who says that everything in Hollywood is
1:47:02
Speaker 3: Satan and demons?
1:47:03
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I've seen him on
1:47:08
Speaker 1: God it's just one, this one. I can't remember what
1:47:11
Speaker 1: show it is, but it's like there are always Whenever
1:47:13
Speaker 1: I see their tweets, I just fucking cringe when I
1:47:15
Speaker 1: listen to whatever they're saying. I'm pretty sure we've shed
1:47:18
Speaker 1: it in the group chat before. Actually, the show, I
1:47:20
Speaker 1: just can't remember the name of it.
1:47:21
Speaker 4: Hostile.
1:47:22
Speaker 3: I'm about to win this debate.
1:47:24
Speaker 4: Good to see you.
1:47:26
Speaker 3: You see that I won. I won the debate. That's good.
1:47:29
Speaker 3: Die right there, Fallacy.
1:47:32
Speaker 4: He's very pious and just like I don't know, I
1:47:35
Speaker 4: don't like the the attitude. It's not needed.
1:47:40
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of Orthodox people who are like,
1:47:42
Speaker 3: he's just bringing Protestantism to Orthodoxy.
1:47:45
Speaker 4: That's not right, dude.
1:47:47
Speaker 1: I can't remember this show that I always see.
1:47:50
Speaker 3: He's always on.
1:47:53
Speaker 4: I was a fan of his stuff that he did
1:47:54
Speaker 4: on Guya. The whole where he was decoding the movies
1:47:59
Speaker 4: or whatever.
1:47:59
Speaker 1: That was was cool. I think that was cool. That's
1:48:03
Speaker 1: us fun though, you know it was good. We got
1:48:06
Speaker 1: to do Mother soon, man, We gotta do Mother on
1:48:08
Speaker 1: your show.
1:48:09
Speaker 4: We do?
1:48:10
Speaker 3: Have you guys watched All of the Boys. No, I'd
1:48:16
Speaker 3: love to do it a cult breakdown of that show
1:48:18
Speaker 3: that's with all the superheroes.
1:48:22
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'll check that out and then I'll
1:48:25
Speaker 1: watch it.
1:48:26
Speaker 4: Tell me I'm doing Patreon. I'm setting up Patreon shows.
1:48:29
Speaker 4: I got a couple other people coming on, and yeah,
1:48:35
Speaker 4: I'll post about it in the Patreon, but yeah, Nick's
1:48:39
Speaker 4: coming on. We're gonna watch Mother do like in a
1:48:42
Speaker 4: cult breakdown of it.
1:48:44
Speaker 1: So much of the fucking movie.
1:48:46
Speaker 4: It's insane doing Sword in the Stone with somebody. Yeah, yeah,
1:48:52
Speaker 4: you got yeah if you're a mystery. And then someone
1:48:57
Speaker 4: from a met a miss is coming on, Well.
1:49:02
Speaker 1: That show you know who actually wanted who hit me up?
1:49:04
Speaker 1: They they think they asked for the end of July
1:49:07
Speaker 1: July twenty fourth or some shit. They wanted to come on,
1:49:09
Speaker 1: and I think it's a Friday. This will be at
1:49:10
Speaker 1: ten o'clock our time. Actually, I think if we do
1:49:14
Speaker 1: it at my time. Cultive conspiracy wanted to do like
1:49:17
Speaker 1: a thing with all of us. Nice. I mean I
1:49:20
Speaker 1: found that interesting considering.
1:49:23
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about authenticity, right, I mean, those
1:49:25
Speaker 3: guys sacrificed a lot for authors.
1:49:27
Speaker 4: Well, well it's now Jacob and his yeah yeah, well
1:49:32
Speaker 4: who I had them on on a it was a
1:49:34
Speaker 4: few days for Christmas. We talked. I didn't really agree
1:49:38
Speaker 4: with him on a lot.
1:49:41
Speaker 1: I didn't have to pick the conspiracy type.
1:49:44
Speaker 4: I wanted to talk about what we agreed more on
1:49:47
Speaker 4: than what we disagree on because it was around Christmas
1:49:50
Speaker 4: and I didn't want a debate, so I was kind
1:49:51
Speaker 4: of just like eh, and so you know, it was
1:49:54
Speaker 4: what it was.
1:49:55
Speaker 1: Well, I know they've done a lot of work on
1:49:57
Speaker 1: the Epstein file, so I was going to kind of
1:49:58
Speaker 1: push that topic so we could to stay off of
1:50:00
Speaker 1: religion occultism.
1:50:02
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, no, you can try. Yeah we will because
1:50:09
Speaker 4: he I don't know. You know, some people are of
1:50:14
Speaker 4: the belief that it everything comes from the Bible and
1:50:18
Speaker 4: then spread outward and that's these these cultures are over
1:50:22
Speaker 4: ten thousand years old. In the Bible in anything only
1:50:27
Speaker 4: dates back and people can interpret it how they want,
1:50:29
Speaker 4: but statistically from what is presented and only dates back
1:50:34
Speaker 4: to six thousand years so, and that's what they say
1:50:38
Speaker 4: in it. But as far as when it was written,
1:50:40
Speaker 4: we know the Bible had written until what fifteen hundred.
1:50:46
Speaker 3: AD one to one sixty seven BC.
1:50:52
Speaker 4: Okay, so like the Old the Old the Old canon,
1:50:54
Speaker 4: like the Old Testament canon or.
1:50:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the Old Testament and then the New
1:50:58
Speaker 3: Testament was written or the you know, one twenties, one thirties,
1:51:03
Speaker 3: But they said.
1:51:04
Speaker 4: That it was existing years later.
1:51:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, well no, it's it was given to.
1:51:09
Speaker 4: The people till fifteen hundred, right, right.
1:51:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody could read it.
1:51:13
Speaker 4: Okay, no one could read it till fifteen hundred. That's
1:51:17
Speaker 4: that's that's when it was given right, that's because it
1:51:20
Speaker 4: was being read to people, uh right, by people who
1:51:24
Speaker 4: possibly hated you.
1:51:25
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you again, even even like even when
1:51:28
Speaker 1: I when I dropped this show eventually, between the first
1:51:30
Speaker 1: few hundred years AD, there's so many different beliefs going
1:51:34
Speaker 1: on in Christianity. It's fucking ridiculous. Ones I believe you
1:51:37
Speaker 1: shouldn't even be having kids, dude.
1:51:40
Speaker 4: The Indo European Step people and like, I mean, we're
1:51:44
Speaker 4: not gonna we're not gonna get into it and go
1:51:46
Speaker 4: down and you know, it goes back thousands and thousands
1:51:50
Speaker 4: of years and it's so ancient, and uh yeah, you're
1:51:55
Speaker 4: gonna do some deep dives on the Pontic Step and
1:51:57
Speaker 4: all that. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fu
1:51:58
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have some you gonna try to have people on.
1:52:00
Speaker 4: I've hit some people up. You don't hit me back.
1:52:04
Speaker 4: It's on them. But uh yeah, like I said earlier,
1:52:09
Speaker 4: a bunch of new topics on the show that we're
1:52:11
Speaker 4: gonna be getting into because I've become conspiracy fatigued.
1:52:15
Speaker 2: Uh.
1:52:15
Speaker 4: Now someone can come on my show with a good
1:52:17
Speaker 4: deep dive.
1:52:18
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's how I am to for me.
1:52:20
Speaker 4: To, But I will not be. I will not put
1:52:25
Speaker 4: my audience or myself in an echo chamber. I will
1:52:28
Speaker 4: not do it.
1:52:30
Speaker 3: We didn't even talk about Ganymede.
1:52:33
Speaker 4: All right, try not to, dude. I mean, who knows.
1:52:36
Speaker 4: I'm sure some sort of echo chamber, but as far
1:52:40
Speaker 4: as what you know, the controlled echo chamber, what's being
1:52:43
Speaker 4: pushed in the mainstream. If you see right now, you
1:52:47
Speaker 4: know they're starting to talk about Enoch and all that stuff.
1:52:50
Speaker 4: It's becoming popular. What do we know? You know, well, yeah,
1:52:55
Speaker 4: they present truth, they have to some calm. Yeah, but
1:52:58
Speaker 4: it's uncanny it that it's happening at this time when
1:53:02
Speaker 4: everything politically is happening, you know. I mean prophecy is
1:53:07
Speaker 4: in the title, so and we did bring that up earlier.
1:53:10
Speaker 4: You know, I think that's very dangerous. It's very dangerous.
1:53:14
Speaker 3: Like revelations died eleven.
1:53:16
Speaker 4: Dude, I believe and I've talked and I talked about
1:53:21
Speaker 4: this and we can end soon because I know Nick
1:53:22
Speaker 4: probably wants to get out of here, and I won't
1:53:24
Speaker 4: shut but uh, okay, Well what I was going to
1:53:30
Speaker 4: say is in every in every war, in every war time,
1:53:34
Speaker 4: the Church, from my understanding, has always been in this
1:53:38
Speaker 4: kind of frantic like this is revelations, this is this,
1:53:41
Speaker 4: this is this book, this verse, like you know, this
1:53:44
Speaker 4: country is doing this and all the way back to
1:53:46
Speaker 4: the Revolutionary War probably before you know, and and it's
1:53:52
Speaker 4: kind of just like, you know, this is a reoccurring
1:53:55
Speaker 4: thing that keeps happening. It's just a rebrand of the
1:53:58
Speaker 4: end times. Right, We're not in the end time. This
1:54:02
Speaker 4: is the beginning of a new age. And I think
1:54:06
Speaker 4: it's something that they're trying, like with the fear paradigm,
1:54:09
Speaker 4: they're trying to put everyone into this state of mind.
1:54:12
Speaker 4: And I you know, a lot of this rhetoric I
1:54:14
Speaker 4: see is just now. Like I said, I'm on the
1:54:19
Speaker 4: borderline of being dangerous to certain people's obviously, but.
1:54:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good for their business, gets gets people.
1:54:29
Speaker 4: Into the I'm all for the beheading of we're on YouTube,
1:54:38
Speaker 4: so grapist and not not not those grapists, but everyone
1:54:45
Speaker 4: knows the inside joke. Great pilled obviously my audience likes
1:54:48
Speaker 4: to make jokes and uh, you know, Petter Asses and
1:54:53
Speaker 4: ship should be taken in the street, hung drawn and
1:54:56
Speaker 4: quartered publicly in front of the entire town. I've I
1:55:01
Speaker 4: vouch for this since grape pill, the beginning of grape pill,
1:55:05
Speaker 4: not not overly that I think people that I mean,
1:55:07
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think the people that are out
1:55:09
Speaker 4: there actually catching them, that's actually cool. I mean, they're
1:55:11
Speaker 4: doing it for content that's kind of shitty, but it's
1:55:14
Speaker 4: cool that. I guess it's always kind of That's what
1:55:17
Speaker 4: Chris Hansen was right.
1:55:20
Speaker 3: Mutually beneficial I'm totally in favorable beneficial justice.
1:55:24
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Okay, that's that's okay. So mutually beneficial justice is
1:55:28
Speaker 4: a very good way to put it.
1:55:29
Speaker 1: You know, I was in prison with a dude who
1:55:31
Speaker 1: was on Chris Hansen twice.
1:55:34
Speaker 4: He's not He did not die in there. People nobody knew,
1:55:38
Speaker 4: nobody pulled his papers, hume.
1:55:40
Speaker 1: They knew he was he was he was. Yeah, well
1:55:43
Speaker 1: you know, he worked in the kitchen, so he had
1:55:45
Speaker 1: he had value. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's one
1:55:51
Speaker 1: of the reasons why.
1:55:51
Speaker 4: You but dude, I mean, I definitely think obviously those
1:55:56
Speaker 4: people should be uh condemned completely and ostracize, not even
1:56:04
Speaker 4: not even like in a Norse in that society, like
1:56:08
Speaker 4: up up up in the north. In ancient times, they
1:56:10
Speaker 4: were called a scorgamore or whatever, and it was like
1:56:13
Speaker 4: an out outsider or someone, and they were branded, usually
1:56:17
Speaker 4: with a certain mark. I don't know the mark, but
1:56:21
Speaker 4: I think the people who are doing this right now
1:56:23
Speaker 4: should definitely be uh, like I said, in so many words,
1:56:28
Speaker 4: hung drawn and quartered. Go look, go look it up.
1:56:30
Speaker 4: If you're not familiar with that ancient it's an ancient
1:56:33
Speaker 4: and maybe kill a Norman or Saxon technique.
1:56:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I want to address kill your agrigors right here.
1:56:42
Speaker 3: So he says, when do you guys think the Age
1:56:44
Speaker 3: of Aquarius began? I think we're still in the transitional
1:56:48
Speaker 3: phase until twenty one hundred, so we haven't even fully
1:56:50
Speaker 3: gone into it yet. Like there's very it's very gray
1:56:54
Speaker 3: when it comes to when that line is. But I
1:56:56
Speaker 3: think we're still in the transitional phase right now, so
1:56:58
Speaker 3: it's still happening.
1:56:59
Speaker 1: Almost like the alchemical process between both.
1:57:03
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, dude, I still need to do a full
1:57:07
Speaker 4: alchemy episode. I have I have the note for it.
1:57:11
Speaker 4: I just need some people to do it with. Maybe
1:57:12
Speaker 4: we could do it on this show. Guests don't to
1:57:15
Speaker 4: do it. Maybe I'll do a whole series on alchemy.
1:57:18
Speaker 1: Oh, I can send you a whole bunch of people
1:57:20
Speaker 1: that I've already covered and you could take a look
1:57:21
Speaker 1: at them and ship. Yeah. Yeah, I've actually covered a
1:57:24
Speaker 1: lot of alchemists on the show, a lot of them.
1:57:27
Speaker 2: Julane, you reminded me of how awful some political and
1:57:32
Speaker 2: religious systems combined can be. And in the news recently,
1:57:37
Speaker 2: Israel made it so. I believe murderers that our Palestinians
1:57:46
Speaker 2: get hung and murderers that are Jews, they don't. They
1:57:50
Speaker 2: don't face that punishment.
1:57:52
Speaker 4: They do, they face the punishment at all.
1:57:55
Speaker 2: Yes, sure, sure that's true too. But but there the
1:58:03
Speaker 2: whole punishment is racial base there and now includes hanging.
1:58:09
Speaker 4: Because before they were killing the Palestinians, there were Jews
1:58:12
Speaker 4: in Israel that were protesting because they wanted to take
1:58:16
Speaker 4: advantage of them before killing them. That was Adam and
1:58:21
Speaker 4: trailers and stuff. Yeah, it was pretty sick.
1:58:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is still happening to every once in a while.
1:58:27
Speaker 2: I'm sure that there's a charge against someone for something but.
1:58:32
Speaker 6: But overtly they are literally advocating the hanging of people
1:58:39
Speaker 6: without any what do you call it, like redemption or
1:58:44
Speaker 6: you know, acquittal or.
1:58:46
Speaker 3: Any possibility pole type of thing. Yeah, thank you, Well,
1:58:52
Speaker 3: this is a great episode. I'm glad we had so
1:58:54
Speaker 3: many people join us we did.
1:58:56
Speaker 1: It was good comments to thank.
1:58:58
Speaker 4: You everybody for coming in hanging out. Thank you again,
1:59:01
Speaker 4: meet Cavern for that for that donation on rumble Dude,
1:59:04
Speaker 4: I appreciate your brother.
1:59:09
Speaker 1: All Right, well, yeah, I guess well we're good to go, right,
1:59:11
Speaker 1: we'll wrap this up. Awesome. Yeah, that was a really
1:59:14
Speaker 1: great thank you. Thank you Headless for that for that idea,
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Speaker 1: And it was a couple of weeks ago we finally
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Speaker 1: made it happen. I guess guests canceled so we're able
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Speaker 1: to squeeze it in. I thought that was an awesome talk.
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Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of ship said in
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Speaker 1: this one show. And I had a great time hanging
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Speaker 1: out with you guys tonight. So thank you Headless, thank
1:59:30
Speaker 1: you Ethan and Jules. It was awesome that you were
1:59:31
Speaker 1: able to make it. I know you got a tight schedule,
1:59:34
Speaker 1: but thanks for making it man. Yes, and everybody in
1:59:36
Speaker 1: the chat that is what's up. And check out Headless's
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Speaker 1: thing tomorrow at one o'clock. He's actually got me very
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Speaker 1: interested in this And if you got time, coming and
1:59:44
Speaker 1: hang out with me and Jules tomorrow will be reading
1:59:46
Speaker 1: some Ship and.
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Speaker 4: Nine o'clock Gods of the Morning Wood.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then hang out with us Sunday. You get
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Speaker 1: to see Ethan on Headless's show for the Sunday trial.
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Speaker 1: Look so Sunday.
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Speaker 3: Trialog, You're gonna be a banger.
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Speaker 4: And I'll be doing some other show this weekend as well, guys,
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Speaker 4: for everyone, either that Hand of Sebastias and Thracian Horsemen
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Speaker 4: Deep Dive, or we'll watch Well we spent spent Span,
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Speaker 4: we spun the movie Wheel, so the Wheel provided answer
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Speaker 4: for it, and we will watch the movie uh not
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Speaker 4: on YouTube though, guys. Follow me on rumble and YouTube
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Speaker 4: and go over to Graaypiel dot Prinifi dot me for
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Speaker 4: merch put some cool ship. I'm gonna put some more
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Speaker 4: cool ship up this weekend.
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Speaker 1: Uh man.
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Speaker 8: I have uh not to go to the Dinnist Monday,
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Speaker 8: so I may do a show Monday too, who knows,
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Speaker 8: And then next weekend I'll have a bunch of shows
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Speaker 8: going on Greyhorn Pagan soon, as well as having a
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Speaker 8: couple of people book with me.
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Speaker 4: I'll be announcing those. Yeah, yeah, I may go on
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Speaker 4: for the Ruin reading with him AND's aar Lath as
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Speaker 4: well with Stein AND's aa Lath. I think that'd be cool.
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Speaker 4: But anyway, yeah, man, thank y'all for having me on.
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Speaker 4: It's all. It is always good coming hanging out with
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Speaker 4: you guys. And uh yeah, we we did some ranting
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Speaker 4: and uh I think, uh we let everyone know how
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Speaker 4: we felt, but uh I think that's good man. Like
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Speaker 4: I said, we're kind of been it since we have
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Speaker 4: so we're all we're all pretty pretty transparent dudes, and uh,
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Speaker 4: you know, like I said, kind of to my detriment
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Speaker 4: at times, but it is what it is. Okay, next week,
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Speaker 4: wait Glass you're in there. But yeah, all right, thank.
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Speaker 1: You, Nick, thank you. And that is the end. That
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Speaker 1: is the end of another Pole Rejects and until the
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Speaker 1: next one, everybody be well later.