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Episode 372 - All In on the Tesla - A First Hand Experience · TechtalkRadio

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The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. Hey what's up.
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This is Tom Arnold and you're listening to uh tech talk Radio. They're
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really great and I love them. Hey how about a copy of Windows?
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Uh? Can I get a laptop? Welcome to another episode of tech Talk
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Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Seanda Weird, and I'm Justin Lemmy.
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And you know, we've been kind of waiting for a couple of weeks for
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this one because so Justin, you've been kind of busy and you know,
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I had to step away for a couple of weeks. But when we last
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on the last episode of tech Talk Radio, actually we were talking about you
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were going to take the plunge and get a Tesla. That's why. And
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I actually, I'll be honest with you. We've had a couple of listeners
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that have asked, did Justin ever get a Tesla? And how come we
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haven't heard him on the show in a couple of weeks. Let's what happened.
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So we're we're glad that you're back, but we wanted to know,
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like, how how has this experience been for you? You actually get you
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ordered? It is where we last left and then you were just in the
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waiting game, and what got you to order it was taking a test drive.
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Well, okay, so we'll we'll we'll start from the very beginning.
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We Mesa's cars getting old and we wanted to get our new car. And
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with the federal income tax rebates and the state of Colorado income tax rebates seventy
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five each, fifteen thousand dollars right off the bat, discount off the car.
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I said, let's look at Tesla because we can't get these kind of
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discounts anywhere else. Yeah, so we look, we looked, and a
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quick recap. We we went up to the Tesla dealership, which is amazing
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because Tesla is not a dealership. They're not a car dealer. They're a
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retail store. And and and I'll make that point clear soon because when we
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want in there, we were like, hey, we're interested in this in
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the model, why we want to take it for a test drive. And
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this was on a Friday evening, and the guy was like, yeah,
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no problem, here's the keys, take it for the weekend. I'm like,
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uh wait, what don't like, don't aren't you concerned that I might
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like, like steal the car. He's like, dude, we have GPS
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on every single car, and these cars are self driving. We can turn
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it around and make it drive itself back. Really yeah, oh yeah,
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And I was like, oh, okay, touche all right, So we
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took the car, great car right off the bat that was amazed. Which
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model again, Model why so so so just a recap real quick, on
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the bottom of the line, the bottom of the test the line. You
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get the Model three. Then you go to Model Y, which is a
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little bit more of an suv. It's a more of like a hatchback kind
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of a crossover vehicle. Then you go Model X, which is the one
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with the goal wing doors that kind of raise up like the DeLorean, right,
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you know, and the Model X, and then you go to Model
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S. Those two, the Model X and Model S are considered the luxury
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tesla's the Model three in the Model Y are considered consumer grade teslas. However,
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it's still amazing. I mean the car just feels luxury already off the
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bat. Now obviously ride smooth ride, interiors amazing. I mean, controls
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are I mean, it's okay, I'm just gonna get into controls. The
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controls are insane because you don't have any physical buttons anymore. Like you've got
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your your your left and your right uh steering wheel, clicker thingies whatever you
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want to call it. Right, but that's for your turn signals on the
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left side and on the right side is your neutral part drive you know,
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reverse whatever right that's on the right side. Other than that, everything else
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is done through the app on the screen. Okay, it takes a little
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bit of getting used to, but once you get used to it, it's
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amazing. And we drove that car. I was super impressed because, first
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off, the torque on the car zero to sixty three seconds, and the
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fact that the car doesn't have a transmission. It is just an electric motor.
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It just goes, goes, goes, goes, goes. It doesn't
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have to go stop, change gear, go faster, stop, change gear,
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go faster. It just keeps going. Wow, it's like a roller
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coaster. I mean, it's like a go kart. I don't know.
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I mean, it's it's hard to explain. I don't know. I would
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be happy you comparing is Tesla why to a go kart? Well, elon,
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if you want to talk to me, call Okay, but seriously,
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this car is amazing. I mean everything about it, the features of the
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car. We brought it home, we parked in the garage, we plugged
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it into the charger. We got the mobile charger, which is just the
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standard one hundred ten volt you know charger. That is a little bit upsetting
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because it doesn't really give you that much. It gives you like two miles
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per hour on the charge. So it's great. It's not great, but
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it gets the job done. The problem is when we went back, we
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returned the car, we said, look, we're gonna buy the model Why,
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and they're like, okay, So we went ahead and pre ordered it.
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We put the two hundred and fifty dollars down for a deposit. We
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got the app. The app shows us every everything you do with a Tesla
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is done through the app. We got the app, we started following the
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whole process. It said the cars being manufactured, it was actually made for
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us, So it was it was done in Giga Texas where they have factory
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in Austin and Austin, Okay. So it was manufactured in Austin. And
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we got the premium model. So we got the model Why, but we
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got premium. So we got the premium interior, which is white leather interior
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cost us an extra thousand dollars. Right, then we got the premium red
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exterior. Because every single Tesla I see on the road is either white or
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black, we wanted gray. There's a graphite gray, yes, but we
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wanted some to stand out, so we went the premium red. So that
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was an extra two thousand dollars. So we got the car. The cars
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being so, this is not like when I bought my Chris or I bought
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it brand new. I know that I just picked a color. It wasn't
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made for me. They just had it and said here, here you go.
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They actually made this is gonna be Justin and Mesa's car were building it
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right now. Yep, that's pretty amazing. Yeah. So it took about
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three and a half weeks for them to make it, and then they shipped
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it to Superior, Colorado, which is just basically halfway between here and Boulder,
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between Denver and Boulder, not too far. So we get the notification
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your car's here. Awesome, go to pick up the car, get in
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it. Actually, no, I'm sorry, I take that back. It
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was shipped to Aurora, Colorado, Eastern Denver. Anyway, we go to
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Aurora. We pick up the car. Beautiful, it's washed. Everything is
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beautiful about it. Oh my god, the car looks amazing. I get
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in it to drive. I pull out onto the street, onto the highway,
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and all of a sudden, but on it, I get a notification
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speed limited to fifty nine miles per hour. I was like safety, Well,
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okay, okay, well that's what I initial thought about, Like,
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I know they do this with the rental the loaner cars in the in the
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in the test drive cars, they limit the speed. But I'm like,
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no, no, no, no, no, this is this is my
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car, Like, I can drive as fast as I want. So I'm
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kind of like driving and I'm trying to look through the settings to try to
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figure out where the speed limitter is right, and it's not. It's not
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turned on. The speed limitter is not turned on. But I cannot drive
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any faster than fifty nine miles an hour on the interstate. Oh that's that's
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actually more dangerous, isn't it. It is extremely dangerous because nobody drives less
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than seventy on the interstate. So here I am on the interstate driving fifty
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nine miles an hour in the low lane in a red Tesla. I've got
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a semi on my butt honking is horn and I'm just like, I can't
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go any faster. It was large march. I was I was freaked out.
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I was like, what the hell is going on? I finally pull
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back into the house. I get to the house, I pull back in,
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I go in. I start looking on YouTube and I start doing all
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these things, and there's like there's a there's a secret maintenance mode. So
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I'm like, all right, So I go in. I get into the
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secret maintenance mode and I can see the error code and the error code says
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bad coolant sensor rear drive unit. And I'm like, oh, I literally
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pulled this car off the lot. It has seven miles on the odometer,
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and I've got a bad coolant sensor right just for you. So it wasn't
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a limiting It was wasn't limiting because of like a breaking period. It was
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it was maybe it was it was limiting because it couldn't check the temperature of
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the battery pack. Why didn't they Why didn't they test that it? In
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Texas, Tesla is doing the Microsoft approach. Build the product, let the
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consumers be the beta testers. Oh, that's not good when you're talking a
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vehicle. Well, yeah, exactly. So yeah, at this point,
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I'm like sitting at like a two out of ten on my rating of Tesla.
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I just got a brand new car. This thing's got three miles on
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the or seven miles on the odometer. After I drove it home and I'm
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already getting a bad sensor. Yeah, So I called Tesla. They're like,
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oh, just go through the app, file a service claim. They're
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gonna diagnose it remotely and then let you know. Okay, all right,
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So I go and file a service claim. Wait wait, wait, wait,
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you have to plug it like a cat five no car, No,
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no, no, no, no, no, it's got it's got five
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G. It's got five G Internet wow built into it. All right,
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So I file a claim and they come back a couple of days later though,
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oh yeah, we found it. It's a it's a bad it's a
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bad rear what do they call it? Rear drive unit? Right? Okay,
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what does that mean? Breaking in for service? Oh man, oh
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my god, are you are you serious? Yeah? So yes, I
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took it up to Tesla. I take it up to Tesla Superior, where
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we first initially met with those guys. Take it up there, I drop
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it off, I demand a loaner. We like, well, I mean
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I've got other cars, I've got other cars to drive. But I'm like,
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no, I just paid this much money for a car. I want
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one of your cars to drive around while I'm waiting for my car to get
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fixed. So they gave me a Model three, which is fine. It's
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fine that a lower lower on the scale lower, it's a lower k Yeah,
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the Model three is okay. I'm sorry, Elon, but the Model
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three is literally a go kart. It's like, you mean, it's so
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low to the ground. It's it's like a low rider. I feel like
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like I should be like bumping my like my hydros or something because it feels
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like a low rider. I need to google this our listeners if you if
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you want to know, you can google Model three Tesla and you can see
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what it looks like. But okay, but really low to the ground.
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So anyway, I drive that thing for like a week and a half.
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I'm waiting for my car to get fixed. It keeps saying it's parked in
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so and so, but it's in service. I keep messaging the service guys
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like, are you guys gonna look at this or anything? Yeah, and
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they're like, oh yeah, well we'll get to it. We'll get to
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it. We gotta keep it over the weekend. Just just keep the loaner.
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Well, the loaners got like ten percent battery and I'm not gonna I'm
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not gonna pay for you know, I'm not gonna charge the loaner. So
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I just like, wait a second, this car, this loaner car is
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owned by Tesla. It's not owned by me. Right, what if I
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take it to a supercharger? What would happen? Right? So what explained
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to us what a supercharger is? Sore. Okay, So across the United
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States there are super charging stations, and this is kind of like if you're
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driving a Tesla, it's kind of like your gas station. The Teslago logo
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on them, right, yeah, they do, they have the Tesla logo.
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But this is your gas station. This is where you go to fill
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up your Tesla. You simply plug it in and it charges the car.
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But this is a super charger. It charges at four hundred and eighty volts
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I think like fifty six amps or something. Basically, Okay, here's the
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what it is. I pulled into a Come and Go, which is the
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franchise that we have around here. There's a Tesla supercharger station. They got
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ten bays. I pulled into one of them. I literally backed in,
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grabbed the plug off the supercharger. I plugged it into the car. The
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supercharger itself started humming. It was like and I'm like, wait what.
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I look at the car. It went from ten percent battery. By the
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time I walked in, got a cup of coffee, walked back out to
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the car, it was already at forty percent. Wow, that's pretty good,
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right. It was charging at six hundred miles per hour. Now you
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hear that miles per hour, you think, oh that's fine. No no,
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no, no no, I'm talking about six hundred miles of range per
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hour of charging. Wow, that's cool. It was charging it insanely fast.
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I sat there for thirty minutes and the car was one charged. Wow.
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That's good on Tesla's dime. On Tesla's Dimeah that makes sense. Yeah.
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So anyway, although tonight, although justin to be fair, when you
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know, my car was burned up in the auto shop. The rental they
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gave me, I still had to pay for the gas it went in it.
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Yeah, we didn't that so tonight. Side note, right, so
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quick side note is that, Okay, the test the plug for the Tesla's
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has become the standard for evs going forward. Yes, yes, I just
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want to put that out there. So if you're thinking, oh, the
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supercharging network could become available to other manufacturers, it is. Yes, Tesla.
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Tesla beat everybody to the punch. They are now making that that charger
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is going to be that I think they're called the Neema charger or something like
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that. Right, that's going to be the standard for all evs. Okay,
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because Tesla was the first one to do it. Anyway, So today
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I'm working at water World and I'm I'm I'm so quick side note. Yeah,
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this week I'm working like I'm I'm slinging burgers right because all the kids
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are going back to school, I have to work the food stands. I'm
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listening to Spotify on our speaker, and all of a sudden, I noticed
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that the Spotify cuts out, and I'm like, wait, what's going on?
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And I look at my phone and it says now playing on mesas Tesla,
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And I was like wait what, Oh, they finally grab the car.
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They're looking at it. They're they're driving it. Yeah, they're driving
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it. They're finally doing something with it. So then then I'm watching it
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and I see them. I see them opening the doors. Because I got
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centry mode, I got centry, I can see the cameras of the car.
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I can see them working on it. And then all of a sudd
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all of a sudden, I see them lift the body of the car off
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of the car and set it down next to the frame. Oh my god,
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that's a trip. It's like looking at your skeleton. And I'm looking
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at this, I'm like, oh my god, there's the guts of my
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car. And they're taking out the rear drive motor. They're replacing the entire
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motor of the rear wheels because what exactly that what was bad? It took
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them an hour? Wow, literally from the time they took the frame of
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the car off, put the motor out of the car, put the new
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one in, put the frame back on. Boom done one hour. What
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I've never heard of a car being replaced or fixed that way, you take
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the whole I've never heard of that either. This is insane, right,
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and then they're like, your car's fixed. I'm like, are you Are
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you sure you fastened the things to the thing, because like I'm watching you
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guys, and you're like doing stuff that I didn't think was possible with the
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car. And they're like, oh no, no, no, don't worry,
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it's it's fine. So I go to the car. Here's the two
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bolts that they didn't Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, by the
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way, we found these two extra bolts. You guys. Great, you
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guys, just see you Now I fixed computers. There's always bolts laid around
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going yeah, where did that go too? Yeah? Whoop? See.
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But no, we go to pick up the car and I'm like, I'm
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walking around, I'm getting underneath the car. I'm looking at it. I'm
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like, well, I can't, I can't tell anything's wrong. Like,
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all right, let's get in the car. We get in the car.
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We drive It works great, a nice finally. Yeah, yes, we
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went ninety five miles an hour around the interstate. Oh boy, oh boy.
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And guess what that ninety five miles an hour took four point seven seconds.
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Wow, amazing. So the ride is a nice way. Is that
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the smoothest ride you've ever had up any cars. Well, no, I
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wouldn't say that because the Model X, the models have a better suspension,
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better springs and all that other stuff. It's still a very snice smooth ride.
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But when you get up to the Model X or the Model S,
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you're gonna get even better. But honestly, out the door this car,
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after the federal and state income tax rebates, this car is gonna be thirty
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two thousand dollars. And that's a pretty good deal that you're getting a ton
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of. That's for a new car. Yeah, yeah, for a new
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Tesla. Yeah. Like, seriously, I don't know what Arizona is offering
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as far as rebates. I know that they're doing different things. But I
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mean, that's that is a tremendous deal, especially if it's you know,
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if it's it's riding good. My big concern, of course, would be
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on range and is that gonna vary depending on is that gonna vary depending on
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heat? Cold deal in the winter snows of Denver. Well, i'll let
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you know in about four months. Oh you'll find out, right, what
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about what about for now? If they told you, like, oh,
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you're gonna be able to go on a full charge four. No, that's
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a huge thing right now. The Tesla's being a class act. I think
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it was a class action lawsuit against Tesla because of the mileage range. Basically,
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it inflates the mileage range until you get to about fifty percent battery and
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then it tells you the true mileage range. And people are upset about that.
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It's like, why not just tell us right off the bat, like,
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yeah, here's how many miles you got. But they're not doing that.
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So I don't know the answer to that question right now. What about
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the technology that's inside obviously a camera system, the cameras, what do they
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actually watch? So here's a quick picture if anybody's watching. This is a
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quick picture of our Tesla right now, okay, And you can see the
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charging cable coming from it, so it's telling me it's charging right now.
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That's cool. I can actually open the trunk. I can open the fronk
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because they call it the fronk. Why do they call it that because there's
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a front trunk. Okay, all right, because there's no engine in the
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front. I can turn on the climate. I can make the car dance
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like literally, like I can play a song and the windows and the doors
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will open and close to the beat of the song. Well that's needed.
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It's yeah, I know, it's totally unnecessary. I could even make the
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car fart. I've heard about that one. Yes, yes, I was
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okay. The first day we had the Tesla, I parked it at work.
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I parked it at work and I got a sentry mode alert said somebody's
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near your car. And I looked at the camera and there was this guy
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leaning on the Tesla leaning did not And so I'm looking at this and I'm
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like, well, that's kind of rude. I'm like, okay, well,
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I can flash the lights, I can honk the horn, or oh,
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I can make the car fart. Great. So I was like,
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oh, yeah, let's try this. I pressed the button. All of
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a sudden, I see the guy jump away from the car, and then
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I see he's got like five daughters around him that are just pointing and laughing
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at him, and he's like, no, no, it was the carr
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foar to God, and I can hear them They're like, yeah, right,
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dad, yeah, that yeah right dad, Yeah you far did not
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the car and the guy ran away from the car. Is there something kind
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of different about having an electric vehicle pass gas a little bit, but it
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is hilarious. It is hilarious. Eric. Eric loves the Tesla, all
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right, I mean he he's he's playing around because it's got an arcade built
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into it. You got Netflix Disney. So now as far as rear seat
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for the passenger being Eric, uh, does he have like is that standard
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to have a screen like a mounted in the seat or is that something you
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add or how in the Model X you have a standard screen, but in
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the Model Y you do not have that. So no, we're gonna have
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to stick to the you know, standard tablet. How about for because I
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know you when you think of a tesla, I would think because it's electric,
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you would think about it as you know, just passengers. What about
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for storage like you're say you're going on a vacation. You got storage is
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pretty good. I mean you've got a massive trunk because again there's nothing out
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there to there's no spare tire on it. By the way, they also
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told us don't ever put a jack if you have a flat tire, don't
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put a jack in the Tesla because you'll crack the battery back. So you
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get unlimited roadside assistance from Tesla. What they do is they come out with
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a truck that has an air bag, and the air bag lifts the car
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and then that's how they change the tire. So you got that whole trunk
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to yourself. You got a trunk and the deeper trunk, plus you got
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the frunk, like I said, the front a trunk, right, and
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you've so you've got a ton of storage, a ton of storage. And
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the best part is the model. Why can tow up to thirty five hundred
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pounds? Whoa really can to a full trailer? Right? But isn't that
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gonna a decent size trailer? Not a full trailer? Yeah? Okay,
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shush, a decent size is camper guy over here, he knows. But
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isn't that gonna affect your battery life in the vehicle? Of course it will,
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yeah, of course it will. Like you leave the parking lot.
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Okay, we're done, Ye sold five feet? What happens justin if you've
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made plans, you're driving down the road and all of a sudden, you
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know, with a hybrid, at least you can switch and still put gas
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in it. Well, what happens in the electrical situation where suddenly you have
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no electricity and the vehicle is you know, needs a juice, well,
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I mean a portables. Well, I think roadside assistance would come and give
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you a jump or whatever. But honestly, when it gets to like ten,
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I've never done it. I've never done it. But I've heard that
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when you get down to like ten or fifteen miles left on the battery,
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it's gonna just keep barking at you. It's gonna be like baby, baby,
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baby, baby, like you gotta pull over, you got a charge
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now, Like it's gonna keep bothering you. Right, But I've never I've
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never gotten it down that low. So I don't know. Well, this
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sounds like a good experience if somebody is thinking about it. Yeah, but
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again it's all been fixed in. I mean, this would never happen though
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with a standard vehicle you're driving off a lot and suddenly having apart. I
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don't think that's ever happened to anybody I know. Yeah, you know,
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so, I mean this this kind of stuff when you're buying a car,
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that can be kind of scary. I've been, I'll tell you be honest
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with you. I looked at the Avaya, is it the Aiva or Avaya,
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the one that Nissan puts out and I thought that was the leaf.
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No, that's a that's a Chevy, isn't it Chevy Leaf? No,
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Nissan Leaf? Okay, Nissan, isn't another one? Or is it Toyota
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thinking up that it's that sounds like a Toyota. Yeah, it's uh,
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it's the one I had a picture of where the poll the pole where they're
25:10
doing the ev ride from the North Pole to South Pole and they've made their
25:15
way to Mexico and it's a really cool looking vehicle. I've been following them
25:19
on X and it's it's it's pretty cool to see. So, I mean,
25:23
you know, if you've been thinking about it, you your experience so
25:26
far has not been that bad. Now I have a question for you,
25:30
and we're gonna take a break and come back because we want to find out
25:33
a little bit about DTI's big announcements that they've put out. But solar panels
25:38
are did you go that route? Oh? Absolutely, we have Tesla Solar,
25:44
then you did Teslas Solar well, so so we did Solar City Solar
25:49
before Tesla bought them, and then Tesla bought them, and so we are
25:55
technically Tesla Solar. The only thing we're missing is the Tesla power wall,
26:00
right, and that's like ten thousand dollars and we don't we don't have How
26:03
was that expert could believe it or not? Some guy came to the door
26:07
and he was, of course pitching Solar, right, and Gloria was home.
26:11
I wouldn't home, and she told him, oh, my husband would
26:14
be home tomorrow. Come on by and talk to him. And I said,
26:17
to where I go? But I got home and she told me,
26:18
I said, why don't you do what I just said? We say we
26:22
rent. Just tell him we rent that we you know, we don't own
26:25
the house. We do. But I thought that's a good way to get
26:27
them not to come back. But she said, well, maybe it's a
26:30
good idea. And that surprised the heck out of me that thinking about it,
26:36
it's actually a really good idea. I mean, considering where you're at
26:38
in Tucson, dude, Solar would would just absolutely decimate your electricity bill.
26:47
I mean, it's when we got Tesla Solar. It's amazing. I mean,
26:51
we generate up here in Denver. I don't know exactly we generate like
26:53
twenty killer watts per hour or whatever I mean. It's it's insane. I
27:00
can't even imagine how much you could generate down in Arizona, especially if you
27:04
have a perfect facing house to the sun, which you covered your entire roof
27:08
with the solar panels. Oh my god. And then I especially if you
27:14
you know, during monsoon season, if you ever got hail, the Teslas
27:18
solar panels will protect you from having to get a new roof, right,
27:22
what about what about costs? Well, the way we did it was we
27:27
got the Solar City my power agreement, which basically means Solar City, which
27:33
is now Tesla, becomes our electricity provider. We pay them how much we
27:41
generate, and it's basically less than the electricity company offers. So what they're
27:48
doing is we generate the electricity and then whatever we don't use. If we
27:53
generate more than we use, which we don't, it would get fed back
27:59
into the grid okay for other people to use it. Basically make our meter
28:03
take backwards, which has never happened. Does your solar panels then also use
28:10
your your Tesla car charger? Then well, no, I mean, well,
28:15
whatever I mean, if if I'm charging during the day, yes,
28:18
using the solar panels. But if I'm charging at night, it's using the
28:21
grid. All right, good, all right, Well, we gotta take
28:23
quick break. We come back. We're gonna find out about dji's big announcements.
28:26
Sewan is all the info on that. We'll be back with more of
28:30
tech talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm sean to Weird and I'm justin.
28:33
Let me find us online at tech talk radio dot com. We'll be
28:37
right back and now back to tech talk Radio. Out of all the technology
28:44
companies that are out there, DJI is probably one of the ones that we
28:47
talked about a lot on the show. Yeah, and with Wise and go
28:51
Pro and a couple of the ones because I like cameras, right, So
28:55
a couple of weeks ago on the show, Andy and I talked about dj
28:57
I was teasing a new camera, so they finally released it. It is
29:03
the DJI Osmo four. Now, a lot of people when they hear d
29:07
g I right away they think drone and they don't know too much about the
29:14
Osmo line, although it's been growing in popularity because they are gone, they
29:18
have they're go Pro's biggest competitors. Do you have an Osmo I have.
29:22
I have an Osmo pocket too, the Osmo Pocket, that's that's one that
29:26
has the It actually has a it's got a gimbal on it a gimbal.
29:30
Yeah. Right, So now this this Osmo four what is what is the
29:34
coolest thing about this it's the price is cheaper than the new Go Pro.
29:41
I believe it's four twenty nine, which is a little bit cheap. Actually
29:45
it's it's actually it's actually quite a bit of a jump from their Osmo Action
29:49
three. Uh. And I'm trying to get to the right page. So
29:53
like I tell you more about the Well, I know that the newest Go
29:59
Pro is three ninety nine, and I thought Dji was going to put the
30:03
introductory price the same. Three nine. Yeah, four twenty nine, I
30:07
believe is what the price is right now. If I ordered it now,
30:14
it has it's got It uses a different mounting system than the Go Pro.
30:18
It relies on a magnetic mounting systems. You can click them in much faster
30:22
and a lot easier. And both Go Pro and the Awesomo the DGI have
30:29
gone to a caseless waterproof system, so it's waterproof as is. You don't
30:34
so you don't have to have that big white bark clear, you don't have
30:37
to have a case, but you have to make sure all you know,
30:40
you get all of these things have to be sealed and all that stuff.
30:42
And one of the things that they did with this is they increased the sensor
30:48
size. So they increased the sensor size, but they reduced the megapixel count.
30:55
Okay, so you have a larger sensor with larger piel. Okay,
30:59
what does that mean? No? Right, so sorry, you have a
31:03
larger sensor, right, you can get more light. Okay, there's more
31:07
light for the camera to capture, more space for the camera capture light.
31:14
And then when the pixels are larger, they each individual pixel can capture more
31:18
light. So it's more sensitive, so meaning you get better low light performance
31:22
without added noise. Okay, so that's good for action environments underwater where you're
31:30
it's you're just craving for more light. You get better results with a larger
31:37
sensor. Sure, so it has a one and one point three inch sensor.
31:41
And I'm trying to figure out what the go pro size was, and
31:45
you mentioned the megapixel size on that. You know, megapi megapixel is so
31:52
misunderstood because for a while. There are some you know, digital camera companies
31:59
would put out this shoots eight megapixel, this shoots twelve, and so people
32:02
would just go with oh, the bigger the better. Didn't realize it necessarily.
32:08
Yeah, right. You ran into this issue with cell phones MHM,
32:15
specifically the higher end cell phones you would get. These companies said are saying
32:21
like, oh, our camera shoots forty eight point nine megapixels. Yeah,
32:25
that's a lot of megapixels. Yeah, but your pixels are like tiny,
32:32
so it doesn't matter. Yeah, because you're just getting I thought a pixel
32:38
was defined. I thought a pixel you couldn't adjust the what a pixel means.
32:45
No, Pixels are essentially a dot on a sensor that absorbs data.
32:50
So the more dots you have so nineteen ten eighty whatever. But you can
32:57
cram more pixels in, that is by making them smaller. So you do
33:02
that, right, your your image becomes more clear because there's more to work
33:08
with. But there's not enough smaller and there's not as much light going to
33:14
each one. Each pixel doesn't get as much data because they're smaller. So
33:20
if you increase the pixel size, you get more data per pixel that it
33:23
can work with more color data, more light data, all that, and
33:29
then you increase the sensor size. You can still get as many pixels in
33:32
there, maybe a little less megapixel size than the Copro, but you just
33:37
get better better, better light sensitivity, and a little bit better quality based
33:44
on the size of the pixels. When you think about a shun. We
33:47
had so many different drone manufacturers just about what five six years ago, maybe
33:52
even a little longer, but you had so many and the one that always
33:55
stood out though as being the best Dji, even when GoPro kind of entered
34:01
the market to try and do you know their own drone. Yeah, yeah,
34:06
you had. We can jump back a little bit, so I got
34:09
into drones in around twenty eleven, two twelve when I really started getting into
34:14
drones justin You were kind of there when news stations started using them and stuff.
34:19
And then I respect to Michigan and actually bought one. And the big
34:23
one was you had Dji. You had another company that started with an age,
34:30
I can't remember it. It was another Chinese manufacturer that made drones and
34:32
they were actually very popular. Also. Then you had one called three D
34:37
Robotics. Oh yeah, I remember them now. Three D Robotics had it
34:42
right. They built a drone and they stuffed a gimble on the front and
34:45
said, hey, buy our drone, put your go prol on it.
34:49
Yeah. Then go Pro said, yeah, we don't like that you guys
34:54
are telling people to buy your drones, so we're gonna make our own drone
34:59
instead. And if you don't know, GoPro made a drone. Yeah,
35:07
it was. It was overly priced. It was expensive. I think it
35:10
was like fourteen ninety nine or something. Didn't have a long flight time either.
35:15
Uh, it had a miserable flight time of like eighteen to twenty minutes
35:19
or something. Yeah, and you still have you still had to put your
35:25
GoPro on it. So it had this cool feature. It was a cool
35:29
feature, I'll tell you that. Right. So you had a gimball that
35:31
you mounted your GoPro that you could use with your hand and then it flipped
35:36
vertically and then or horizontally and then slid into the front of the drone and
35:39
that was your gimbal. Yeah, and it SYNCD up with your GoPro and
35:43
did all the stuff so you could use the remote and out of the box.
35:50
I think it was like eighty to eighty five percent of the drones had
35:53
battery failure. Kah, that's not a good thing. No, And the
36:00
GoPro karma was wiped off the face of the planet. That's what's karma.
36:05
It was called the karma. You cannot find information. It's it's almost impossible
36:07
to find anything about it because it was such a bad product. Well because
36:13
it was probably just rushed to the market. They were like, go,
36:15
go, go, we gotta do this, we gotta do this. Now
36:17
everybody was selling drones, so right, everybody was telling drunes that was the
36:21
next big thing. Right, So I I told people you could probably find
36:28
information about me saying this out there. Is go Pro was stupid not to
36:32
buy three D Robotics. Yeah, they should have just said, you know
36:37
what, we're gonna buy three D Robotics. Make it part of go pro,
36:39
and they're gonna be our They're they're gonna be our drone arm are the
36:44
arm of our business that makes drums. Yeah, better thing, three D
36:47
Robotics. They fell off the face of the planet. Yeah. So now
36:52
Dji comes along and they said, well, heck, you know, GoPro
36:58
once kind of went into the market, so why can't DJI has some great
37:01
optics on their cameras, So why not make an action camera with a gimbal
37:06
that people can use and get some great resolution. I love my awesomele pocket
37:12
too, Right, Yeah, it's a great Those those little pocket cameras are
37:16
great if if you're on a trip and you want to just toss it in
37:21
your pocket. Toss it in your backpack, doesn't take it out of space.
37:23
You power it up. It's got a little screen on it. You
37:27
start recording. It's gimbaled. It looks great. It's great for traveling.
37:31
I should get one. I want one, right, I'm just haven't got
37:35
one. Well, Sean, if you want to borrow mine, I'll mail
37:37
it to you, all right, take it on trip. It's like,
37:42
okay, yeah, I'll shoot all sorts of stuff with it. Yeah.
37:45
But so you have to go back again and look at what defined an action
37:51
camera. Right. Go Pro was the first one to really make an action
37:53
camera, right, and then it was widely successful. They were used all
37:58
over the place. But then you start getting cameras from Nikon, Kodak,
38:02
Vivatar, Garmen, Vivatar. They all made these action cameras, but they
38:10
couldn't compete at the price because you had these companies, these big camera companies
38:17
Cannon, Sony, Nikon, that were like, we're not going to sacrifice
38:22
image quality to get a small form factor quality piece of equipment. And you
38:30
had all the industry, the action sports industry, the motorsports industry, and
38:34
the film industry looking for how can we get this really cool shot of this
38:39
car crash in this really tight spot. Well let's toss in a three hundred
38:44
doper, but we don't care if it gets destroyed. Yep, we gives
38:50
you a decent result. So you had all these camera companies that were so
38:54
far behind the ball that tried to rush out action cameras that didn't go so
38:59
well. Right, the Garment Verb, the Nikon, I don't remember.
39:02
I don't remember the names of them. They were so far, so far
39:05
back. But then it was just go Bro. Yeah, who who was
39:09
the guy that made or who was the company that made Gobro? Wasn't it
39:13
like a guy in a couple of his buddies that did this like the initial
39:17
I don't remember the actually the guy's name, I'd have to look it up.
39:21
But he wanted to make a risk mountable camera for surfing. Oh yeah,
39:27
yeah, yeah, that's right, and he did that. It came
39:30
up with something it ran on. You know, it was just really it's
39:35
really rinky dink thing. It mounted your wrist. It was really big,
39:38
and then it just kind of took off. I don't really know exactly how
39:40
it got introduced, but he sold it. He sold it to another company
39:45
then, right, that made it to the go Pro that we know now,
39:49
No, it's he's he he During the break, I'll look it up
39:53
and we'll come back to that. But it started with if you go back
39:57
and look at the I keep saying go back, but it started with that
40:00
camera. Then it was a the go Pro Hero. Yeah, actually it
40:06
was just actually it was just the go Prop and I'll pull up. I
40:09
have him sitting on the shelf behind. It was a tiny one ran on
40:14
a full sized SD card, powered by three triple A batteries. Right.
40:20
It had a a V output so you can still get a VY is shot
40:23
four by three and recorded in uncompressed a VII, so the quality is not
40:30
that great. Uh, but it worked and it recorded, and all of
40:36
a sudden you got all of this amazing footage from all these places that nobody
40:39
ever thought they were going to see all of a sudden, you were seeing
40:43
remote skip. You know, you were seeing all this epic skiing footage and
40:45
this BMX footage and dirt bike footage and water all of these extreme sports,
40:55
but from the perspective of the user, and it like you were there,
41:00
but you had what you had though in that early the early ones, that
41:04
fish I, which bothered a lot of people, Yeah, you know,
41:07
and that Yeah, that was the thing that they had to kind of adjust
41:10
to to get people to be bored. Oh look at this, now I'm
41:15
a part of it. Where it was fish I gave you that feeling you
41:17
were a separate from it, right, So if you could go and look
41:22
at the items that kind of have been the challenges for these companies, the
41:28
flag the benchmarks of like what's the main competitive point? Okay, First it
41:34
was size and portability. Okay, Then it was waterproofing, right yep.
41:42
Then it was image quality and video size. Right. Then it was battery
41:47
life because now you're increasing this the size of the videos you need the processing
41:52
powers, your battery life is increasing. So you started seeing this trend of
41:57
they were chasing each other down this path. So then we got into stabilization
42:01
Yeah, so Dji had amazing stabilization in their drones and go Pro didn't have
42:08
a great stabilization platform. Yeah, it was. It was all like after
42:13
after effects, like after editing. Go Pro built there. I believe it's
42:19
called hyper laps or hyper I don't remember what's called hyper or something a software
42:25
based hype. It's called hyper smooth, I think. And it worked really
42:32
really well, and it was done on camera, so you didn't have to
42:37
post edit any of your footage, where as DJI had their stabilization platform already
42:44
that was doing a great job hardware within hardware and actual optical stabilization. But
42:51
then they had to flip it and compact it into an action camera. They
42:54
had to build a whole software too. So we get into the story.
43:00
We gotta take a quick break. But I want to know, in your
43:01
opinion, Sean, better optics DJI or go Pro with this DJI because they
43:08
partnered with known quality lensmakers and they did with their drills Possi blod Zeiss.
43:16
Oh, they bought in and said we don't want to sacrifice quality for price.
43:23
We'll be back with more of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
43:27
I'm Sean Deward and I'm justin let me send us a tweet on x at
43:31
tech talk radio. We'll gray back now back to TikTok radio. We were
43:37
talking about Dji and go Pro. I do have to tell you, and
43:42
I showed it on television. The Acasso. Acasso was a kind of an
43:46
offshoot brand of action camera. You can find them at Target, they're online.
43:52
What they tout is an action kind of experience similar to what you would
43:58
find with GoPro. Do not buy expecting to get the results of GoPro or
44:02
DJI. I got a chance to test one out. A little clunky.
44:07
It does have on screen. It is waterproof down to one hundred and thirty
44:10
one feet. I try used the EK seven thousand, which is nice.
44:15
They have a Brave model which even has better resolution. You can go up
44:20
to to four K with this. You could do ten ADP, which is
44:23
what I'd recommend. But the picture just wasn't that sharp and there were some
44:29
sound issues that a lot of people were having. I got on one of
44:31
the message boards on Facebook to see like some of the video that people were
44:37
shooting with it, and it was okay again, but again for the price
44:40
difference, we're talking eighty dollars. So if you know, if you've here's
44:45
what I recommend and this this came from a listener. If you've got a
44:51
child that wants an action camera, you don't have to go spend you know,
44:55
four hundred dollars oh for their first camera for the first camera, Please
44:59
don't. I would recommend this. Get the Picasso brand, you know as
45:04
an offshoot brand, and let them play around with it, let them have
45:07
fun with it, play with the mounts. There comes a bunch of amounts
45:09
on him. I do like they didn't have these on the go Pro because
45:14
well, with go Pro you don't change the battery out, you charge it
45:16
and it's sealed. Now with that, you don't use that case. This
45:20
one still uses that white kind of plexiglass case for it to be waterproof,
45:24
and it's not sealed. You can actually pull the battery, put another battery
45:29
in, and they give you two batteries in a charger. But that's the
45:31
kind of thing you've got to give your kid. It's like getting a remote
45:35
control car. You're not gonna go spend eight hundred dollars on a remote control
45:38
car as their first remote control car. Get one for you know, forty
45:43
fifty bucks for them to play with and see if they like it there,
45:46
Like me, I just got one hundred and fifty dollars. One for Eric
45:50
one hundred and fifty dollars or remote control car and he's never played with it.
45:52
So yeah, well you're gonna say, shout no, there are great
45:58
cheap options shine these knockoffs. Yeah, go pros like you can spend as
46:04
little or as much as you want on an actual don't but don't expect you're
46:07
gonna get the fewer dollars you spend, the worst the quality. Yeah,
46:15
exactly, of course, Yeah, expect that. All right. So justin
46:20
we were talking earlier about Balder's Gate, which is a video game, and
46:22
a lot of people have been talking about tell us about this and you've got
46:27
a chance to play it. Well, yeah, so the new one came
46:30
out. It's Balder's Gate three. Uh. This is the first new release
46:34
of this franchise for twenty two years. Wow that yeah, the last No,
46:42
I'm sorry, twenty four years. The last one was in nineteen ninety
46:45
nine. But it's it's basically it's basically Dungeons and Dragons in a video game
46:52
format and when I talked about Dungeon Dragons. If you know what Dungeon Dragons
46:58
is, it's like you know, paper and pen. You create a character,
47:00
you roll a bunch of dice. Every time you want to do something,
47:04
you gotta roll a dice to see if you succeed or not. This
47:08
is literally that. Like, it is not a typical RPG game where you
47:14
can just walk in there with your character and start bashing things around. No,
47:17
you gotta plan your strategy. You got a party of four people with
47:22
you. Each person has their you know, strengths. You got a rogue,
47:27
a warlock, a barbarian, a bard, you know, and you
47:34
got to plan your strategy. So you got to know what you're doing.
47:37
But this game, when it came out Steam, you know, the big
47:43
primary PC game conglomerate. I guess you could say they they expected five hundred
47:51
thousand people to be playing the game. Okay, on launch weekend they got
47:57
over nine hundred thousand people. This has quickly become the best and biggest game
48:02
of twenty twenty three so far. This is the ad actually surpassed Diablo four.
48:08
Diable of four is another huge franchise, yeah made by Blizzard, which
48:15
and Sean has had a place a chance to play that too, right,
48:17
Yeah, for I've probably put ten hours and yeah it's not good. Yeah,
48:24
I I I beat the game. I beat Diabolo four. I mean
48:28
I beat the campaign, which people say, oh, I wats you beat
48:31
the campaign. That's when the real game starts and I'm like, yeah,
48:35
no, I'm good. Yeah, but I beat Diablo four, But yeah,
48:39
it's not that great. Balder's Gate, though, is different because it
48:45
makes you, well, I should makes you think. It makes you rethink
48:49
how you should play a game again. Like I said, going into a
48:52
room with a bunch of goblins, you would think, oh, I'm just
48:55
gonna send my barbarian and then smashed them all to pieces. No, because
49:00
it's turn based. You got one turn per character. You gotta position your
49:06
character, tell it what you want it to do. Now you gotta wait
49:09
for the enemy to go and the enemy is gonna do their turn. It's
49:13
like chess, right you think. I mean if you think Chess is a
49:15
one player game where you could just be like, oh, move, move,
49:19
move, move, move, checkmate, you're done. Well, that
49:21
that's a typical RPG. No, this RPG is like Chess. You make
49:27
one move, your enemy makes one move, and you've got to plan your
49:31
strategy out. Okay, it's just like Dungeons and Dragons, but in a
49:37
video game format. Now's yeah, No, it's not free fling the bags.
49:40
Part about it is it's got one hundred and seventy five hours of cut
49:46
scenes recorded like full full on movie rendition cut scenes, CGI animated everything.
49:59
So it is a really really really good game. Awesome. Uh where can
50:05
I listeners find that? Uh? Well, Baldi's Gate three right now is
50:08
on PlayStation five and Steam for PC, and right now it is the second
50:14
most played game on Steam? Is it early? Five hundred and eighty five
50:17
thousand, five hundred and eighty six players playing Baldris Gates. I'm gonna did
50:22
you give that a shot? I don't think what's the number one game?
50:24
Yeah? What is Counterstrike? Go? I've ever heard of that one?
50:29
No? I want to you know, I built, I built, I
50:31
got a new graphics card, so now I got But I will I need
50:35
an intense graphics card to play this one? Oh god, yes, yeah,
50:37
so I got that new lattome. Go go ahead, Sean. I
50:42
was say, you definitely need a decent system to play it. I was,
50:45
well, Justin's talking, I'll look up with the with the base.
50:47
So I got that new laptop that I used for work, right, but
50:51
I also used it on my personal time. I used it for a gaming
50:52
computer. This just got a I nine processor. I told you about it
50:58
before nine th gen processors got sixty four gigs of RAMP. It's got an
51:02
Nvidio RTX thirty seventy t I and when I play that game, those fans
51:09
are going at full blast. I mean that laptop is I mean it is
51:16
hot. The bare minimum or bather skate three sixty four bit broncessor Windows ten
51:27
until five four gen and d FX eighty three hundred all right, eight gigs
51:32
of RAM graphics card. They're saying a nine seventy will run it or r
51:39
X four eighty. And you need one hundred and fifty gigs of space.
51:45
Man, I remember you could play a game with ten megabytes of space.
51:49
Yeah no, this game. But well, because you think about one hundred
51:51
and one hundred hours or whatever of cut scenes, one hundred and seventy five
51:54
hours of cut scenes, Yeah, it takes a lot of space. So
51:58
the recommended specs were Balder's Gate three, Windows ten, Into seven, eighth,
52:05
Gen m D Rising five thirty six hundred sixteen gigs RAM gt X twenty
52:13
sixty right or am d r X fifty seven hundred and one. Wow,
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amazing they should why why are they even recommending like the recommended They should be
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like, just just empty your bank account, like seriously, just empty your
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max out your credit cards, money to sell your house. Take just just
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just everything you got put into this game, because that's what's gonna take.
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Taking a quick break, Justin has a really cool game that we can all
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play online and it's free. So again we're gonna find out all about that.
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Coming up. This is tech Talk Radio. I'm A D. Taylor,
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I'm Shawn do Weird, and I'm Justin. Let me let's see what
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we've not done so far. Facebook find us on Facebook at tech or Facebook
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dot com, Ford Slash tech Talkers were back nail it and now back to
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tech talk Radio. He paranol and you listen to the geeks on the radio
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tech Talk Radio. Do you remember the Commodore sixty four when you had that
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game called zorc Zark, Oh my gosh, yes, remember it was featured
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in Ready Player one the book yeah, where you basically like you are presented
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with a house with a white picket fence. Yeah, what do you do?
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Remember and you have to type in remember that. Yeah, there's a
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new one. Oh really. It's called a dark room okay, and you
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can find it at a dark room dot double speak games dot com. Okay,
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now this isn't quite text based, but it is almost the same.
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It is a click click, click, click click kind of game where you
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build up your your your base and you're trying to form a society. But
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it starts out in a dark room and it's it's very reminiscent of Zorc the
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Fire. Check it out. The room is freezing. Oh really, here
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to light the fire? Click here to light the fire down. The fire
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is burning. How much is it? It's it's going down. I have
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to keep stoking the fire. How much is it to play? It's free,
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free, it's free. Yeah, just go to a dark room at
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I'm sorry, a dark room dot doublespeak games dot com. All right,
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we're gonna check that one out. That could be our game website of the
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week. That's it for this week's show. Be sure to follow us on
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send that to me and then justin, you're gonna send me some video or
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something. Oh your voice at the park. Oh yeah, No, it's
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not on Facebook. You well, yeah, we can put it on tech
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I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Seanda Weird, and I'm Justin Lemmi. Thanks for
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going to water World. Oh wait, I'm sorry. Thanks for listening to
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Sorry wrong one. Thanks for listening to tech Talk Radio. You guys have
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