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Sharri | 4 March · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Shari.
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Speaker 2: Good Evening, another massive night of news. Israel Wan's hardline
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Speaker 2: Kamenae successes will be targeted. This is Israel shoots down
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Speaker 2: an Iranian man jet over Tehran and the Canadian Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister here in Australia says the war is inconsistent with
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Speaker 2: international law. I've got an exclusive interview with Israeli Minister
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Speaker 2: Amakai Chickley and I'll ask him if Iran's new Supreme
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Speaker 2: Leader Khamene's son is top of their target list. Also
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Speaker 2: on the show, how the Magabase is reacting to Trump's
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Speaker 2: war on Iran. Miranda Divine in New York will give
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Speaker 2: the inside detail on how Tucker Carlson is now being shunned.
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Speaker 3: By the White House.
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Speaker 2: Plus why a prison guard suddenly being trained for Category
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Speaker 2: five female extremists? Is it a sign Bias's brides are
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Speaker 2: on their way? Michael Kroger and Browin Bishop will be
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Speaker 2: here and the bust up that sank a two hundred
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Speaker 2: million dollar deal. We'll get the latest on the fallout
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Speaker 2: from Kyle and Jackio. But let's get to the breaking
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Speaker 2: news in Iran and the Middle East. America and Israel
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Speaker 2: have continued heavy air strikes on military targets, destroying Iran's
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Speaker 2: naval and air defenses, and amazingly, Israel hit a leadership
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Speaker 2: compound in Tehran where the clerical body that elects Iran's
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Speaker 2: supreme leader meets, although Tehran claims it.
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Speaker 3: Was empty at the time.
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Speaker 2: The big question over the past few days has been
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Speaker 2: who will take over from Kamena, And now we have
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Speaker 2: an answer. Iran has reportedly elected a new supreme leader,
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Speaker 2: Kamone's son, mosh Taba Khamene. It's believed that he is
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Speaker 2: as hard line as his father, which means he could
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Speaker 2: very well will be the next target of American and
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Speaker 2: Israeli strikes. Trump gave an update today, saying that much
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Speaker 2: of Iran's military has been taken out and most of
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Speaker 2: the potential successes are now dead.
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Speaker 4: They have no navy, it's been knocked out. They have
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Speaker 4: no air force has been knocked out, they have no
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Speaker 4: air detection that's been knocked out, their radar has been
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Speaker 4: knocked out, and just about everything's been knocked out. Well,
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Speaker 4: most of the people we had in mind are dead.
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Speaker 4: So you know, we had some in mind from that
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Speaker 4: group that is dead, and now we have another group.
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Speaker 4: They may be dead.
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Speaker 2: Also, Trump and Marco Rubio also clarified that it was
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Speaker 2: America that made the decision to go to war with
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Speaker 2: Iran and that it wasn't Israel pushing them into this.
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Speaker 4: Based on the way the negotiation was going, I think
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Speaker 4: they were going to attack first, and I don't want
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Speaker 4: that to happen. So, if anything, I might have forced
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Speaker 4: Israel's hand.
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Speaker 2: The Democrats and the MAGA movement were in basically hysterics
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Speaker 2: over a comment from Marco Rubio that was cut in
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Speaker 2: half and taken out of context, and Rubio was pretty
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Speaker 2: angry about this today.
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Speaker 5: That's what I said yesterday, and you guys need to
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Speaker 5: play it him. You're going to play these statements. You
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Speaker 5: need to play the whole statement, not clipping to reach
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Speaker 5: a narrative that you want to do.
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Speaker 2: All right, and he explained once again why the operation
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Speaker 2: in Iran needs to happen. The Wall Street Journal put
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Speaker 2: it well in its editorial when it said this, far
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Speaker 2: from manipulating Trump, he has made Israel the most effective
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Speaker 2: false multiplier America has. It's to Trump's credit that he
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Speaker 2: seizes the opportunities an ally creates to defeat shared adversaries.
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Speaker 2: It's an excellent point on how the relationship has developed
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Speaker 2: between the United States and Israel under both Trump and
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Speaker 2: nedin Yahoo. Meanwhile, here in Australia, police have now said
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Speaker 2: they're aware of the mosques in Sydney that mourned the
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Speaker 2: death of Ayatola Kamenee and they will investigate, they say
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Speaker 2: if appropriate. They say they need to see if there
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Speaker 2: are any breaches of the law for supporting a prescribed
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Speaker 2: terrorist organization. Now here's the actual statement that New Southwales
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Speaker 2: Police gave me today. Their spokesman said, the New Southwales
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Speaker 2: Police Force are aware of a number of mosques holding
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Speaker 2: commemoration ceremonies to mark the death of Ayatola Ali Khamene.
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Speaker 2: These ceremonies are not unexpected. New Southwales Police Force will
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Speaker 2: continue to assess any reported information that alleges breaches of
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Speaker 2: the law and investigate appropriately.
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Speaker 3: And here was just one.
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Speaker 2: This is Sheik Ali Safdari, who spoke at the Al
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Speaker 2: Zara Mosque in Arncliffe on Sunday night.
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Speaker 6: You and I are not only under an existential threats
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Speaker 6: because we are Shia, but because we are the last
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Speaker 6: hope for humanity who is standing up against these people.
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Speaker 6: Who is standing up against this debaucherous, preterous, criminal, illegitimate,
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Speaker 6: perverted president of the United States of America, the.
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Speaker 3: Perverted criminal West.
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Speaker 2: Well, why is he living in Australia if he hates
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Speaker 2: the West so much? And he posted that clip on
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Speaker 2: social media and in the caption he said it was
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Speaker 2: not a time to sit idle and he told his
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Speaker 2: followers to find your purpose and responsibility. There are several
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Speaker 2: other examples as well, and let's hope that authorities actually
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Speaker 2: crack down on those who support a terror regime.
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Speaker 3: But this is now.
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Speaker 2: Erupting as a political issue as well. For the New
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Speaker 2: Southwales Premier Chris Mins, who said, Dad this about the
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Speaker 2: mosques and other places that were commemorating the slain dictator, I.
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Speaker 3: Think it's atrocious.
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Speaker 2: I mean, by any objective measure, the Ayatola was evil and.
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Speaker 3: I don't think that we should be mincing words about this.
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Speaker 2: So, despite the fact that Muslim majority nations are supporting
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Speaker 2: America and Israel's war against Iran, not one Australian Islamic
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Speaker 2: leader as far as I'm aware, has backed Chris Mins
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Speaker 2: and condemned the support for Kamena In fact, a Liberal
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Speaker 2: Party mayor of Liverpool, Ned Manoon, claimed that it was
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Speaker 2: Chris Mins and not these Shikhs that were hurting social cohesion.
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Speaker 2: Now this mayor is outrageously defending those worshiping a terror
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Speaker 2: leader and instead is attacking Chris Mins for daring to.
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Speaker 3: Call out this behavior.
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Speaker 2: Now, ned Manoon made them miss of going on Mark
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Speaker 2: Levy's two GB show this morning and while Mike.
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Speaker 3: Gave it to him.
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Speaker 7: You're effectively excusing people mourning the death of a terrorist.
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Speaker 7: That's what you're doing. No, I'm not excusing you. I
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Speaker 7: don't support any ned you are mate with respect. You
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Speaker 7: are because you are allowing these people into a building
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Speaker 7: that is run by your council, and you are saying
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Speaker 7: I do not have a problem as mayor because they
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Speaker 7: have a right to free speech. If they want to
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Speaker 7: go and mourn the death of the Aetola, do it
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Speaker 7: at the mosque. I want to live in a country
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Speaker 7: where I don't make excuses for terrorist scumbags and low
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Speaker 7: lifes who are responsible for the murder of innocent people.
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Speaker 7: And I want community leaders like you, ned Manoon to
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Speaker 7: take a stand like Angus Taylor has done. From your
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Speaker 7: side of politics, and say we will not support this
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Speaker 7: sort of rubbish in a free country like us.
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Speaker 3: Could have played you more of what Mark Leavy had
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Speaker 3: to say. He was spot on.
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Speaker 2: Now ned Manoon's is New South Wales Liberal MP Tina
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Speaker 2: a Yad, so this is now also a problem for
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Speaker 2: the New South Wales opposition leader Kelly Sloane, who was
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Speaker 2: with Tina in Liverpool yesterday and they both haven't spoken
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Speaker 2: about this issue yet, but if the Liberal Party can't
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Speaker 2: condemn Come and A then it's no wonder one nation
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Speaker 2: is seeing a rise because even Penny Wong managed to
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Speaker 2: eventually call this out.
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Speaker 1: We know Iran has been a risk, a destabilizing actor
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Speaker 1: globally and in the region. I think we've seen this
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Speaker 1: in the last days. I mean we had in one
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Speaker 1: day Iran struck nine countries.
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Speaker 2: And she went on to say, as I played you
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Speaker 2: last night, that those who are supporting or commemorating Come
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Speaker 2: and A's death were in the wrong. She said that
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Speaker 2: very strongly, and today the news that tax fair funding
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Speaker 2: will be frozen to those organizations. Now Chris Mins and
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Speaker 2: Mark Levy are one hundred percent right. It's disappointing the
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Speaker 2: premiers coming under attack from the Muslim community, as I said,
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Speaker 2: especially when the vast majority of the Arab Gulf nations
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Speaker 2: support America and Israel strikes against Iran. Iran is literally
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Speaker 2: bombing Muslim countries. Now, aside from that, if you can't
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Speaker 2: condemn an evil dictator who killed his own people in
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Speaker 2: the tens of thousands, a dictator who executes women and
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Speaker 2: gay people, then who can you condemn? Iran is also
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Speaker 2: responsible for terror attacks globally, including attacks in Australia.
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Speaker 3: Over the past year or so.
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Speaker 2: The IIGC orchestrated the fire bombing of a Melbourne synagogue
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Speaker 2: and a business in Bondai, and the business is still destroyed.
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Speaker 3: It's not open. People could easily have lost their lives.
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Speaker 2: It's lucky that those that the Adash Synagogue got out
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Speaker 2: in time. If ned Manoon can't see that it's wrong
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Speaker 2: to support this terror regime, and if he instead thinks
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Speaker 2: it's clever to attack the premiere, then he should resign
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Speaker 2: from his own job as mayor.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 2: Let's turn out to the politics in America of Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump's decision to go to war. Miranda Divine's view is
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Speaker 2: that the Republicans, the vast majority of Republicans do broadly
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Speaker 2: support the president.
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Speaker 9: The Republican vote. There are polls coming out showing very
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Speaker 9: high support for Trump's actions in Iran and getting rid
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Speaker 9: of the Iotola.
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Speaker 2: And Miranda's on the show in a moment, But there
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Speaker 2: is backlash from the isolationist quarter of the MAGA movement
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Speaker 2: over the war, and this back she's being driven by
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Speaker 2: figures with diminishing credibility but growing online influence like Tucker
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Speaker 2: Carlson and Megan Kelly. Both are blaming Israel and even
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Speaker 2: high profile Jews for Trump's decision to strike Iran.
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Speaker 8: But the United States didn't make the decision here, Benjamin,
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Speaker 8: not NETNYA who did.
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Speaker 3: Of course, that's false.
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Speaker 2: Already played you Trump's comments about this, and Megan Kelly
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Speaker 2: is more specific. She is running the old anti Semitic
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Speaker 2: trope that Jews control everything, and she's blaming high profile
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Speaker 2: Jewish media commentators for controlling President Trump.
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Speaker 8: Our government's job is not to look out for Iran
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Speaker 8: or for Israel. It's still out for us. And this
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Speaker 8: feels very much to me like it is clearly Israel's war.
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Speaker 8: Mark Levin whined it it's his war. Ben Shapiro, Lindsey Graham,
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Speaker 8: Maria Maddelson. That's obvious. They're the ones who've been pushing
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Speaker 8: us into this.
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Speaker 2: Now, Megan Kelly is becoming more anti Semitic, blaming the
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Speaker 2: Jews for Trump's decision because all of those that she
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Speaker 2: listed are Jews, apart from Lindsay Grahant. It's disgraceful and
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Speaker 2: she knows it's not true because no one can control
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, certainly not some commentators like Ben Shapiro or
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Speaker 2: Mark Levin.
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Speaker 3: So she is following the Tucker Carlson path.
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Speaker 2: Just in January this year, she also backed holocaust denier
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Speaker 2: Nick Fontes. She described him as smart and interesting and
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Speaker 2: said he made good points about America. Now, these are
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Speaker 2: not words that one should use to describe a grotesque racist.
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Speaker 8: Worthwhile exercise, because he's a very interesting guy.
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Speaker 3: Let's face it.
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Speaker 8: He's obviously got some very extreme views, but he's very interesting,
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Speaker 8: and he's very smart, and on a lot of things.
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Speaker 8: There is value to be derived from that guy's messaging.
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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, but he actually has a lot of things
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Speaker 8: he talks about that you're like, oh, this is not
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Speaker 8: a bad point about our country. I excuse his thoughts
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Speaker 8: on race and Jews and the Holocaust. Now that obviously.
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Speaker 2: She's speaking about one of the worst anti Semites in America,
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Speaker 2: who has repeatedly praised Hitler, said that Hitler was awesome
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Speaker 2: and right and that the Holocaust didn't happen. He's also
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Speaker 2: called for a holy war against Jews, not to mention
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Speaker 2: the misogynistic statements as well, and there she was defending
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Speaker 2: him as smart and interesting.
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Speaker 3: It's unacceptable.
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Speaker 2: And Megan Kelly also defends another prolific anti Semite, Candace Owns.
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Speaker 8: And then came Candice Owens and that she really drives
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Speaker 8: people crazy. She drives them crazy. They were very angry
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Speaker 8: that I didn't call her out for what she said
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Speaker 8: about Israel possibly being with Charlie Kirk. And I've got
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Speaker 8: to know her a lot better over the past six months,
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Speaker 8: and actually I know her better now than ever. And
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Speaker 8: I've learned a lot about what's being done to Candace
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Speaker 8: by some of the people we've been discussing, and it's
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Speaker 8: disgusting and I'm horrified by what she's been put through.
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Speaker 2: I mean, as a side point, what Candie Owen is
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Speaker 2: putting Erica Kirk through after she lost her husband is
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Speaker 2: another story. But Megan Kelly just there defended Candie Owans,
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Speaker 2: but also revealed she's personally getting to know a hardened
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Speaker 2: anti Semitic nutjob at the very time she's causing the
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Speaker 2: most damage to society and encouraging extreme racism against Jews
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Speaker 2: and Megan Kelly also ran with the conspiracy theory that
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Speaker 2: questions should be asked of Israel's role didn't have a
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Speaker 2: role of Israel's role in Charlie Kirk's murder.
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Speaker 8: I'm the sick of this bullshit. I am allowed to
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Speaker 8: have questions about what if anyone aligned with Israel or
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Speaker 8: from Israel might have had to do with Charlie's death.
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Speaker 8: I think it was Tyler Robinson. I think he acted
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Speaker 8: either alone or with trans Tifa. I have an open
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Speaker 8: heart to he was manipulated by somebody. I do so
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Speaker 8: I'm fine with those questions.
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Speaker 2: That is a sick conspiracy theory, and she knows it.
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Speaker 2: She's trying to blame Israel, blame Jews for Charlie Kirk
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Speaker 2: dying when Charlie Kirk himself was one of the strongest
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Speaker 2: supporters of Israel and Jews as a devout Christian himself.
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Speaker 2: Megan Kelly is twisting his death for her own cliques
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Speaker 2: to make money. It is despicable. There is a reason
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Speaker 2: that people like Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly.
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Speaker 3: Are not on Fox News anymore.
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Speaker 2: And Kelly's obviously disappointed that she doesn't have a job
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Speaker 2: on Fox News, so.
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Speaker 3: She attacks it. She attacks our company.
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Speaker 2: These comments again from January when Trump took out the
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Speaker 2: dictators in Venezuela.
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Speaker 8: And I turned on Fox News yesterday and I'm sorry,
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Speaker 8: but it was like watching Russian propaganda. There was nothing skeptical.
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Speaker 8: It was all rah rah, cheerleading, Yes, let's go.
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Speaker 2: So the point is that we are seeing the far
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Speaker 2: right align with the position taken by the radical Islamist
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Speaker 2: extremists in their opposition to Trump's war on Iran. Now,
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Speaker 2: these people have lost their journalistic credibility, and at least
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Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson is now being shiinnned by the President and
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Speaker 2: the White House. Yet their influence and misinformation online remains dangerous.
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Speaker 3: Now. I spoke to New York Post.
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Speaker 2: Columnist Miranda Devine a bit earlier today, as the fallout
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Speaker 2: from Trump's Iran strike continues to ripple well beyond the
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Speaker 2: battlefield and into maga.
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Speaker 3: Circles, and a great to see you.
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Speaker 2: Now, you know Trump very well, from what sources have
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Speaker 2: told me, he really took his time to think about this.
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Speaker 2: He didn't rush into a decision on the war. He
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Speaker 2: consulted widely, not just with Israel, but with the Arab
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Speaker 2: nations as well. Can you tell us what you know
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Speaker 2: about some of this process that the president went through.
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Speaker 9: Yes, you're absolutely right, and I mean this is you know,
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Speaker 9: as John Howard has always said, you can't fatten a
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Speaker 9: pig on market day. Donald Trump, since his first term
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Speaker 9: has really put a lot of effort into having cordial
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Speaker 9: relations with the other Arab nations, and of course you
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Speaker 9: saw the outcome of that with the Abraham Accords in
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Speaker 9: his first term, and he's continued to do that quite
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Speaker 9: unlike his predecessor Joe Biden, who alienated Saudi Arabia almost
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Speaker 9: on day one. And so he's worked hard at that.
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Speaker 9: And I think you're seeing the roots of those efforts
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Speaker 9: with the fact that now those Arab nations, the Gulf
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Speaker 9: nations are very much supporting Donald Trump, America and Israel
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Speaker 9: in this attack on Iran. And what we're told behind
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Speaker 9: the scenes is that while they don't want to say
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Speaker 9: it publicly, that they are expressing gratitude to the administration
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Speaker 9: for wiping out the Ayatola, who, in a regime that
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Speaker 9: was menacing the entire region, was the big bully of
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Speaker 9: the region. So I think that has paid off. And
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Speaker 9: it's interesting that Donald Trump feels that he's getting more
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Speaker 9: support from those nations in the Middle East than from
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Speaker 9: some of his traditional allies, America's traditional allies in Europe.
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Speaker 9: And he singled out particularly today in the Oval Office
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Speaker 9: when he was meeting with the German Chancellor, he singled
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Speaker 9: out Spain and also had another slap at Kirs Starmer
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Speaker 9: in the UK said they've been very disappointing, and he
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Speaker 9: went so far as to instruct the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett,
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Speaker 9: who is standing there in the Oval Office, to cut
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Speaker 9: off Spain. We don't want to do any more trade
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Speaker 9: with Spain, he said, and then he said he's very
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Speaker 9: disappointed with the UK for, similarly to Spain, refusing to
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Speaker 9: allow the US to use their bases to conduct these
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Speaker 9: attacks on Iran. And he said that Starmer was no
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Speaker 9: Winston Churchill.
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Speaker 2: And it's a really interesting point because while you wouldn't
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Speaker 2: expect America or Israel to share every detailed piece of
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Speaker 2: their military plans.
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Speaker 3: Miranda.
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Speaker 2: You can't imagine under previous administrations like Bush and Howard
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Speaker 2: that the Five Eyes Partnership would have meant something that
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Speaker 2: Australia's leadership, that the Bridgeish Prime minister would have known
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Speaker 2: there was going to be military action.
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Speaker 3: But they were kept completely out of the loop.
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Speaker 2: The first the leadership in Australia or the UK or
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Speaker 2: Canada in you was when it was reported in public.
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Speaker 2: That does say a lot, doesn't it, about how the
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Speaker 2: Trump administration and even the wider American apparatus doesn't trust
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Speaker 2: these current left leaning prime ministers like Anthony Alberizi and Starma.
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Speaker 9: Yes, look, it does say a lot about the loss
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Speaker 9: of trust in the Five Eyes Partnership, which has been
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Speaker 9: so important to Australia. Although I must say that I
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Speaker 9: think Trump was perfectly happy with Anthony Alberanesi's statement. He
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Speaker 9: was pretty sound in his response supporting the attacks on Iran,
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Speaker 9: so that makes a nice change. And I do agree, though,
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Speaker 9: I mean it's really quite disappointing. And you've seen now
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Speaker 9: JD Vance a year ago and Marco Rubio more recently,
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Speaker 9: the Secretary of State going to Europe and saying to
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Speaker 9: the Munich Security Conference and basically saying advance in a
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Speaker 9: very aggressive way and micro ribio in a more diplomatic way,
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Speaker 9: that you know, Europe, you're our oldest and deepest allies,
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Speaker 9: but you've lost your way when it comes to especially
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Speaker 9: a mass immigration, losing your identity, you know, things like
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Speaker 9: just refusing to pay your own way for your own defense.
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Speaker 9: This is something that Donald Trump has also been sounding
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Speaker 9: the alarm on, and it's you know, I'm not sure
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Speaker 9: if Europe understands that this is a complete sea change
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Speaker 9: in sentiment, not something that's going to go away when
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Speaker 9: Trump's gone. This is a sea change in America. The
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Speaker 9: American people, certainly the Republican Party and the Democrats will
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Speaker 9: follow suits, if you know, once they get back to office.
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Speaker 9: Because the feeling is that the rest of the world
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Speaker 9: has been free loading off the United States and that
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Speaker 9: since the end of the Cold War at the very least,
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Speaker 9: that everyone needs to pull their own weight, and while
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Speaker 9: America does punch above its weight in terms of defense
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Speaker 9: of its allies, you can't allow And this is the
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Speaker 9: way the administration feels these countries in Europe, which spend
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Speaker 9: vast sums of money on having a welfare state providing
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Speaker 9: welfare for their citizens that American citizens don't get, while
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Speaker 9: American taxpayers their money is going to defend these countries.
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Speaker 9: So no more mister nice guy from that point of view.
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Speaker 2: Just finally, Miranda, can you explain to us the sentiment
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Speaker 2: about this war within the MAGA movement and then the
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Speaker 2: Republican Party more broadly, and also what influence figures like
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Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson are having with his quite extreme antie.
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Speaker 9: Look the Republican vote. There are polls coming out showing
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Speaker 9: very high support for Trump's actions in Iran, and getting
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Speaker 9: rid of the iotoler is something. You know, I've seen
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Speaker 9: poles between sort of seventy five and eighty five percent approval.
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Speaker 9: Of course, that's contingent on it being a short, sharp
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Speaker 9: shock and not lasting any longer than you know it
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Speaker 9: needs to be, and certainly no ground troops. So I
23:35
Speaker 9: think at the moment, people are very happy with what
23:38
Speaker 9: Trump's done, and.
23:39
Speaker 3: It's gone well.
23:40
Speaker 9: The war, the actions have gone well so far, but
23:46
Speaker 9: it just can't drag on. And I think no one's
23:48
Speaker 9: more acutely aware of that than Donald Trump, And you know,
23:53
Speaker 9: Tucker Carlson, who I mean, I was very friendly with
23:57
Speaker 9: and had a lot of respect for, but he's really
24:01
Speaker 9: I think worn out his welcome with the White House.
24:04
Speaker 9: Donald Trump invited him there recently in as much as
24:10
Speaker 9: just to hear him out, but also let him know
24:14
Speaker 9: that his influence was going to make no difference, and
24:18
Speaker 9: he's now written him off. I hear, there's just no
24:22
Speaker 9: way that he has sway in the White House anymore.
24:25
Speaker 9: And obviously JD. Vance is not listening to him either,
24:28
Speaker 9: because he's right behind Donald Trump's actions in Iran. And
24:33
Speaker 9: in fact, The New York Times reported the other day
24:37
Speaker 9: that Vance's advice to Trump was to get in it,
24:43
Speaker 9: do it big, and get out quickly. So I think
24:47
Speaker 9: that's probably I mean, Trump is not interested in democracy building,
24:52
Speaker 9: allah Bush. He's not interested in regime change where Americans
24:58
Speaker 9: impose a new leader, he said from the beginning, that
25:01
Speaker 9: will be up to the Iranian people. And what the
25:04
Speaker 9: Americans are doing is degrading all Iran's defenses in the
25:09
Speaker 9: most spectacular way. I mean, yesterday they got hold of
25:13
Speaker 9: all their dominance in the in the air.
25:17
Speaker 2: Miranda Devine, really grateful for your time and great to
25:20
Speaker 2: see you again.
25:20
Speaker 3: As always.
25:22
Speaker 9: Thanks Sherrian, good on you.
25:25
Speaker 10: Now.
25:25
Speaker 2: As I mentioned earlier, Iran has reportedly moved fast after
25:29
Speaker 2: Aotole Iotola Kamene's death, with his son now chosen as
25:34
Speaker 2: supreme leader by the Assembly of experts and joining me
25:37
Speaker 2: now live from Israel is Israeli Minister of Diaspro Affairs,
25:41
Speaker 2: Amachai Chickley, thank you very much for joining us, and
25:45
Speaker 2: welcome to the program.
25:47
Speaker 3: Minister.
25:47
Speaker 2: What is your message for Iotola Kameny's son, moch taba comedy.
25:55
Speaker 11: So Iran there, that's my message and let that be
26:00
Speaker 11: in Iran to decide about their future.
26:06
Speaker 2: Will he be next on Israel's target list? Is here
26:10
Speaker 2: a hardline later that you don't want to see running Iran?
26:15
Speaker 11: Look, we have clear missions in this operation. The one
26:21
Speaker 11: mission is to remove existential threats the ballistic missiles. Iran
26:27
Speaker 11: attempts to continue their nuclear program. Iran was planning to
26:33
Speaker 11: take the nuclear program deeper into the ground, and there
26:37
Speaker 11: was a threat that we will be impossible to stop
26:41
Speaker 11: Iran further in the future. So removing both the ballistic
26:46
Speaker 11: missiles infrastructure and the nuclear program planning facilities in Iran
26:54
Speaker 11: that we're now we're getting started to renovate. That was
26:59
Speaker 11: the first mission, and the second mission is to create
27:03
Speaker 11: the conditions for the Iranian people who have lost tens
27:06
Speaker 11: of thousands of innocent people, mainly young people, young men
27:12
Speaker 11: and women, who went to the street to protest and
27:15
Speaker 11: grant this brutal table regime that needs to be removed
27:20
Speaker 11: from the face of verse. Now we need to understand
27:24
Speaker 11: Israel or no is Il know the US can replace
27:30
Speaker 11: the government in Iran. This is for the Iranian people
27:34
Speaker 11: and there will be no other opportunity. So after the
27:38
Speaker 11: military offensive is done, it is up to the Iranian
27:42
Speaker 11: people to take responsibility for the future. We promised help,
27:46
Speaker 11: Prime Minister Natanio promised, President Trump promised help. Come and
27:53
Speaker 11: now it's the time for the Iranian people take back
27:57
Speaker 11: the freedom to take back their state from these lunatics.
28:02
Speaker 2: Minister, I can see you're standing in front of what
28:05
Speaker 2: looks like a site in Jerusalem that has been targeted
28:10
Speaker 2: by Iran.
28:10
Speaker 3: Can you tell us what's behind you?
28:14
Speaker 11: Yeah, So, originally I was supposed to be in Jerusalem
28:18
Speaker 11: and take the interview from my office, but since I
28:21
Speaker 11: came to visit the families who've lost their bill ones,
28:24
Speaker 11: we're speaking about nine casualties. We're speaking about three brothers
28:28
Speaker 11: who were murdered here right next to me here in
28:31
Speaker 11: the shelter. We are speaking about a father who was
28:34
Speaker 11: waiting for his neighbors to go into the shelter, but
28:38
Speaker 11: he didn't make it himself. His name was Ogen, and
28:41
Speaker 11: so we just visited his wife, the kids. It's devastating.
28:46
Speaker 11: A young a young boy named Gabrielle, sixteen years old
28:50
Speaker 11: boy who also was modeled here. So because we were
28:54
Speaker 11: with the families, we didn't make it to take the
28:57
Speaker 11: interview from the office. So I said, okay, we'll do
29:00
Speaker 11: it from here. We're not in Jerusalem. We are in
29:02
Speaker 11: the Cheesh, which is about thirty minutes from Jerusalem, right.
29:07
Speaker 4: Yeah.
29:07
Speaker 2: Devastating that there are civilians who are being targeted by
29:11
Speaker 2: Iran like this. British Prime Minister Kios Starmer has refused
29:15
Speaker 2: to allow Israeli or American forces to use British bases.
29:20
Speaker 2: Trump today said that Kiirs Starmer is no Winston Churchill.
29:24
Speaker 3: What's your response, what's your response.
29:27
Speaker 2: To the fact it is a serious issue though that
29:30
Speaker 2: Britain won't allow you to use its basis.
29:33
Speaker 3: What's your view on this?
29:36
Speaker 11: King Starmer is one of the weakest prime minister all
29:40
Speaker 11: across the Western Hemisphere, all across Europe. I had zero
29:45
Speaker 11: expectations for Kingstarmer. He's brought Britain into the worst condition possible,
29:52
Speaker 11: is very, very weak. So when you have zero expectations,
29:57
Speaker 11: so I'm not surprised for his decision. Is totally you know,
30:03
Speaker 11: committed to the Muslim voters who took over many cities,
30:09
Speaker 11: London first and foremost, Birmingham, other cities. Look without a
30:14
Speaker 11: dramatic change in Britain in the leadership, there's no future
30:19
Speaker 11: for this island. Unfortunately. The history of Britain, and you
30:23
Speaker 11: know you are part of the ecosystem is Britain. It's
30:27
Speaker 11: such a noble history, such a brave history. Churchill was
30:34
Speaker 11: one of the greatest leaders in history who stood alone
30:38
Speaker 11: against Nazi Germany. And when you compelled Chelchill to what
30:42
Speaker 11: you have now in Britain. This is I'm sorry for
30:44
Speaker 11: the British people. We don't need kills Tanner. I'm sorry
30:47
Speaker 11: for the British people and I pray for the British
30:49
Speaker 11: people that they will have a different leadership, that we
30:52
Speaker 11: have courage to counter the radical Islamist within Britain and
30:58
Speaker 11: also to fight evil regime outside of Britain, such as
31:04
Speaker 11: the lunatics Kirol dictatorship of the Iranian Revolutionary regards.
31:10
Speaker 2: Why are you saying those prayers? Say them for us
31:11
Speaker 2: here in Australia as well, A right, Minister Amachai Chickley,
31:18
Speaker 2: thank you for your time, Thank you, thank you. And
31:22
Speaker 2: just now, I've just got word that the form Israeli
31:24
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Naftarie Bennett is going to be coming on
31:27
Speaker 2: the show a bit later, so stick around for that.
31:29
Speaker 2: Also still to come, Jim Chalmers is already blaming the
31:32
Speaker 2: Iran war for what could be a brutal May budget.
31:36
Speaker 2: Prison guard suddenly being trained for Category five female extremists.
31:40
Speaker 2: Plus we'll get the latest on the Carl and Jackie Osaga.
31:43
Speaker 3: That's with Michael Kroger and Broman Bishop next welcome back.
31:51
Speaker 2: Treasurer Jim Chalmers is already laying the groundwork for the
31:54
Speaker 2: May budget, warning that the strikes in Iran could affect
31:57
Speaker 2: the economy in Australia.
32:00
Speaker 1: The economic consequences are uncertain, but they are likely to
32:04
Speaker 1: be very substantial.
32:07
Speaker 2: Joining me now, and just to remind, I've got farm
32:09
Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett coming up, but joining me
32:12
Speaker 2: now is former Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger and
32:15
Speaker 2: former Speaker of the House Broman Bishop.
32:18
Speaker 3: Great to see you both now, Michael.
32:21
Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal editorial today explains why there's a
32:25
Speaker 2: phony run inflation scare campaign. Judah Sloan makes similar points
32:30
Speaker 2: today in The Australian. What's your view on whether the
32:34
Speaker 2: Albanese government will use the war as an excuse?
32:38
Speaker 12: Well, of course they will, and they use the Ukraine
32:40
Speaker 12: War as an excuse as well. So here's the problem. Yes,
32:46
Speaker 12: there are short term inflationary effects. But the problem we've
32:49
Speaker 12: got federally is we've said for several years now, as
32:52
Speaker 12: Jim Chalmers cannot control his own spending, spending as a
32:55
Speaker 12: percentage of GDP is up at record high as twenty
32:58
Speaker 12: seven percent plus, you've got one hundred forty billion dollars
33:00
Speaker 12: worth of budget deficits over the next four years. Over
33:04
Speaker 12: the forward estimates, you've got inflation fueled by massive government spending.
33:08
Speaker 12: Despite what Jim Chalmers thinks, it's economic one one. If
33:12
Speaker 12: you massively increase government expenditure beyond the capacity of the
33:18
Speaker 12: economy to absorb that expenditure, it's inflationary. So the problem
33:22
Speaker 12: is not what's happening in the Middle East. The problem
33:25
Speaker 12: is that Jim just doesn't have the strength of a
33:28
Speaker 12: Costello acating a Peter Walsh when he was Finance Minister,
33:31
Speaker 12: Nick mentionin. He just doesn't have the strength to resist
33:35
Speaker 12: the demands on him, and that's why the budget's in
33:39
Speaker 12: the terrible message in today. With debt now approaching at
33:42
Speaker 12: a gross level of a trillion dollars.
33:45
Speaker 2: Brom And Judith Sloan says that Australians will be asked
33:48
Speaker 2: to forget about the economic difficulties that had been apparent,
33:51
Speaker 2: inflation well above target band, a budget in deficit for
33:55
Speaker 2: years to come, and stagnate living standards.
33:58
Speaker 10: I don't think they're going to forget. But Jim Charmers,
34:01
Speaker 10: the snake charmer, He'll think all this Christmases came at once,
34:06
Speaker 10: because now he's got an excuse to say, oh, look
34:09
Speaker 10: it wasn't me, it wasn't me, it wasn't me, when
34:11
Speaker 10: it's him all the time. If I hear that expression
34:14
Speaker 10: that he uses that he's saved one hundred and fourteen
34:18
Speaker 10: billion dollars, they didn't save it, they spent it, took
34:21
Speaker 10: it from one allocation, spent it somewhere else, and then
34:24
Speaker 10: added a few more billions as well, just for good measure.
34:27
Speaker 10: Everything that this treasure has done, he has been to
34:32
Speaker 10: feed inflation, not reduce it. He can't cut his expenditure.
34:37
Speaker 10: And you can only afford to have welfare and the
34:41
Speaker 10: care economy at the rate we're spending if you've got productivity,
34:46
Speaker 10: and it's productivity that we have to worry about. At
34:49
Speaker 10: one percent, we are going backwards, and that means borrowings
34:54
Speaker 10: are increasing, whether it's on budget or off budget. We
34:58
Speaker 10: are looking at debt out of our ears for the
35:01
Speaker 10: next decade and it's because of this government. So what
35:06
Speaker 10: Judas Slims had to say, what Wall Street General journalists
35:10
Speaker 10: had to say, is spot on, and what Michael says
35:12
Speaker 10: spot on as well.
35:15
Speaker 2: Now I want to ask you about this isis cohort
35:18
Speaker 2: for a moment Because we read today that new South
35:21
Speaker 2: Wales prison guards are going to be trained in category
35:24
Speaker 2: five female inmates. A source told Sarah Eisen at The
35:29
Speaker 2: Australian that there's online training now available about how to
35:33
Speaker 2: deal with extremist females in custody. It's happened very much
35:36
Speaker 2: all of us sudden. Now the news of those government
35:39
Speaker 2: denies that it's connected to the ISIS brides. Michael, what
35:43
Speaker 2: do you think here this new training, could this be
35:48
Speaker 2: linked to their Well, we know they are still at
35:52
Speaker 2: this point arriving.
35:54
Speaker 12: Must just be a happy coincidence. Surely nothing to do
35:58
Speaker 12: with each other. Look, you know people who are work
36:02
Speaker 12: in prisons. I mean, do they sign up for this
36:05
Speaker 12: now They've got to be in charge of ISIS brides
36:07
Speaker 12: and all the fanatical extremism they're going to bring to
36:11
Speaker 12: this country. So this is what they are. I mean,
36:15
Speaker 12: Taylor Angus Taylor is one hundred percent right on this.
36:18
Speaker 12: I mean, this is terrible. I mean you've got Arab
36:21
Speaker 12: nations who are trying to help get rid of the
36:24
Speaker 12: Iranian regime, and you've got the Australian government bringing ISIS
36:27
Speaker 12: supporters to this country. How confused and sick is the
36:31
Speaker 12: Western world when this is happening. I mean, can't they
36:34
Speaker 12: take their lead from the Arab nations in the Gulf
36:38
Speaker 12: States and Egypt and in other countries. The Arab nations
36:44
Speaker 12: Jordan's are Arab nations who who oppose the Iranian regime,
36:48
Speaker 12: who opposed Islamic extremism is and Muslim terrorism. Yet we're
36:53
Speaker 12: bringing these people to Australia. I mean, the government can
36:55
Speaker 12: stop them. We all know that now, and through incredible weakness,
37:00
Speaker 12: they're not doing it. And it's it's a shame on
37:04
Speaker 12: Alberzi for not having the courage that you know, every
37:09
Speaker 12: every prime minister before him in this country would have
37:11
Speaker 12: stopped these people happening, including Rudd, Gillard and certainly Bob Hawk.
37:17
Speaker 3: Exactly and Brumwin. You know.
37:19
Speaker 2: Just on a kind of related note, Chris Mins has
37:21
Speaker 2: stood up to some of those in the community who
37:25
Speaker 2: are mourning the late Comin a a dictator, a tyrant,
37:29
Speaker 2: a murderer, and now.
37:31
Speaker 3: He's getting backlash.
37:33
Speaker 10: Well I'm not surprised at the backlash that he's getting
37:37
Speaker 10: from that quarter. But the fact of the matter is
37:39
Speaker 10: the rest of Australia is saying well done, and that's
37:42
Speaker 10: far more important. And also what we've seen from mister
37:46
Speaker 10: Mins is that he has literally said that the federal
37:49
Speaker 10: government has been talking to him about bringing them back
37:52
Speaker 10: for months. He's been he has been honest, whereas both
37:57
Speaker 10: Alberizi and Burke have been totally dis honest and disingenuous
38:01
Speaker 10: about it. You know, the proce of keeping mister Burke
38:04
Speaker 10: in Parliament is getting bigger and bigger by the minute.
38:07
Speaker 10: Is he worth the pros? I don't think so indeed.
38:11
Speaker 2: Now this is an unusual topic for the three of
38:14
Speaker 2: us to chat about, but it's very big news this week,
38:17
Speaker 2: the Kyle and JACKIEO Show that it's fallen apart. You know,
38:22
Speaker 2: aarn put out that statement last night just before we
38:24
Speaker 2: went to air.
38:25
Speaker 10: Now.
38:25
Speaker 2: They were each on one hundred million dollar ten year
38:28
Speaker 2: contract each. So Michael, it must have been pretty bad
38:31
Speaker 2: for Jackio to walk away from this kind of money.
38:36
Speaker 12: Well, Bronnie Bishop and I'll do it for half if
38:40
Speaker 12: they're looking for If they're looking for replacements, I've been
38:43
Speaker 12: in a few bus stops myself over the years, as
38:45
Speaker 12: Bronin has, they're never pretty. But coming from Victoria, I've
38:50
Speaker 12: got to be extremely honest with you, Charia, I've never
38:52
Speaker 12: heard the Kyle and Jackie Show. In all the news
38:55
Speaker 12: they've been going, I've never heard them. You've never listened,
38:59
Speaker 12: I've never heard them. I've never heard them once. So
39:04
Speaker 12: I hand over to my two new sith Wales colleagues,
39:06
Speaker 12: you and Bromham, who know a lot better than me.
39:08
Speaker 12: But look, they didn't do well in Victoria. They were
39:10
Speaker 12: never going to They were never going to do well
39:12
Speaker 12: in Victoria. And I don't know why whoever it was
39:14
Speaker 12: running that station thought they'd do well. Here, you blind friend,
39:17
Speaker 12: he could have told you they'd bomb in Victoria and
39:19
Speaker 12: that's exactly what happened.
39:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, just quickly, Bromin.
39:23
Speaker 2: I mean, we've heard it, we've listened to them, but
39:25
Speaker 2: we're not quite the target audience.
39:27
Speaker 10: I haven't listened to them. You haven't either, No, I haven't,
39:30
Speaker 10: but I have to see a twenty seven year old partnership.
39:34
Speaker 10: And Jackie was the highest paid female woman in media,
39:40
Speaker 10: so there's her reputation. But I think at the end
39:45
Speaker 10: of the day you have to say, well, they must
39:47
Speaker 10: have been doing something to keep the shareholders happy for
39:51
Speaker 10: that long. But if it wasn't that on air spat
39:55
Speaker 10: that caused the end, there's been something else going on
39:58
Speaker 10: in the background.
39:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been bubbling along for a while, all right, Broman,
40:01
Speaker 2: Bishop Michael Craig, you're great to see. Now after the break,
40:06
Speaker 2: the former Prime Minister of Israel naf Tarlie Bennett will
40:09
Speaker 2: join me live from Israel.
40:11
Speaker 3: We'll ask him the tough questions about this war.
40:14
Speaker 2: What does he think of the Canadian Prime minister who's
40:16
Speaker 2: in Australia right now and said that this war is
40:20
Speaker 2: in breach of international law.
40:22
Speaker 3: That's after the break.
40:27
Speaker 2: Welcome back and joining me now live from Israel is
40:30
Speaker 2: former Israeli Prime Minister Naftalie Bennett.
40:33
Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Good to have you on, Good
40:37
Speaker 3: to be here now.
40:38
Speaker 2: The Canadian Prime Minister is visiting Australia at the moment,
40:42
Speaker 2: Mark Karney.
40:42
Speaker 3: He's spoken in Sydney.
40:45
Speaker 2: He has said of the Israeli American strikes in Iran
40:49
Speaker 2: that they would appear not to be consistent or to
40:53
Speaker 2: be inconsistent with international law.
40:56
Speaker 3: NAFH.
40:56
Speaker 2: Tarlie Bennett, what's your response to this criticism that Israel
41:00
Speaker 2: and America's war on Iran is in breach of international law?
41:06
Speaker 5: That's just stupid because Article fifty one of the UN
41:10
Speaker 5: Charter explicitly says that our nation has a right of
41:13
Speaker 5: self defense.
41:17
Speaker 2: So does that mean that any requirements under international law
41:21
Speaker 2: are not needed? Because this was in self defense and
41:24
Speaker 2: was there were there any plans for an imminent attack
41:27
Speaker 2: from Iran?
41:30
Speaker 5: There was an inevitable attack from Iran, Because here's the
41:34
Speaker 5: deal we tried negotiations. America was trying to negotiate with Iran.
41:39
Speaker 5: The Iranian negotiators came and said, we're going to keep
41:43
Speaker 5: our nuclear program whatever you say. So are we supposed
41:47
Speaker 5: to wait for Iran to fully develop their nuclear weapons,
41:52
Speaker 5: their missiles and be ready to shoot and at that
41:56
Speaker 5: moment are we supposed to attack them? Or an hour
41:59
Speaker 5: before four or a week before. What we're doing is
42:03
Speaker 5: self defense. This is called self defense. Preventing from a genocidal,
42:08
Speaker 5: crazy Islamist regime. Acquiring a nuclear weapon is flat self defense.
42:14
Speaker 5: And that's exactly what we're doing.
42:16
Speaker 2: What changed from the Twelve Day War last year when
42:20
Speaker 2: Iran's nuclear capabilities were said to have been destroyed. Had
42:25
Speaker 2: they started rebuilding that nuclear capability?
42:30
Speaker 5: Yes, they began not only rebuilding it, but actually transferring
42:34
Speaker 5: it under a mountain called Pickaxe Mountain. That would turn
42:40
Speaker 5: the whole program into an invulnerable program. So what it
42:44
Speaker 5: means if they completed the movement underground and deeper than
42:48
Speaker 5: for no bomb in the world, not even an American
42:51
Speaker 5: bomb could reach it, and then they'd be immune. So
42:55
Speaker 5: we could talk and debate as much as we want
42:57
Speaker 5: but we wouldn't be able to act, so we were
42:59
Speaker 5: acting at the last moment. We could still act, and
43:04
Speaker 5: that's self defense as literal as it can be.
43:10
Speaker 2: Others have described this as a war of choice, that
43:13
Speaker 2: it wasn't essential because although you just said that you
43:17
Speaker 2: did need to act, that there was an imminent threat.
43:19
Speaker 2: You know, the Democrats, for example, in the United States,
43:22
Speaker 2: are saying that there was no imminent threat.
43:24
Speaker 3: This is a war of choice. It didn't have to happen.
43:27
Speaker 2: Do you want to respond to some of those criticisms
43:30
Speaker 2: coming out of actually both the Democrats and the far
43:34
Speaker 2: right Republican movement.
43:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a war of choice to choose either to
43:39
Speaker 5: wait for Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon and thousands
43:43
Speaker 5: of ballistic missiles and then terrorize the whole region, or
43:47
Speaker 5: to act, and we chose to act.
43:51
Speaker 2: We've seen today that reports out of Iran are that
43:56
Speaker 2: the late Ayatola Ali Kamani's son has been elected as
44:02
Speaker 2: the new Supreme leader. What confidence is there that any
44:07
Speaker 2: new leadership in Iran will be less extreme than the
44:11
Speaker 2: hardline Ayatola comedy.
44:17
Speaker 5: We have no confidence specifically on who the next leader
44:21
Speaker 5: will be. That's ultimately up to the Iranians, I can
44:24
Speaker 5: say that. You know, in Iran women are hunted down
44:30
Speaker 5: because they don't wear a job and beat up. In Israel,
44:34
Speaker 5: we send our women an F thirty five to fly
44:37
Speaker 5: over Iran. That's the fundamental difference between a democracy and
44:41
Speaker 5: a terrorist state. Our goal here is self defense. Our
44:45
Speaker 5: goal is not democracy building or anything of that sort.
44:48
Speaker 5: If the Iranian people rise up and change the regime
44:53
Speaker 5: into free or more democratic country, that would be wonderful,
44:57
Speaker 5: but that's not our decision. That's theirs to decide.
45:02
Speaker 2: Just on our personal point. You are a rival to
45:06
Speaker 2: Benjamin ettn Yahoo. You're considered by many a future prime minister.
45:11
Speaker 2: Once again, is there anything you would be doing differently
45:14
Speaker 2: in this war?
45:16
Speaker 5: It's true, I'm in Nataniel's main rival, and I hope
45:20
Speaker 5: to become Israel's next prime minister. On this there's no
45:24
Speaker 5: daylight between us. This is a war of self defense.
45:28
Speaker 5: All Israelis stand behind this mission, this vital mission, and
45:34
Speaker 5: we're doing the hard work for all the world to
45:37
Speaker 5: protect the world from crazy radical regimes acquire nuclear weapons.
45:42
Speaker 5: So no daylight between us.
45:45
Speaker 2: What do you say to shakes and mosques and other
45:49
Speaker 2: organizations here in Australia that are mourning the death of
45:53
Speaker 2: the slain Ayatola.
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Speaker 5: Are you truly respecting and giving honor to someone who
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Speaker 5: murdered tens of thousands of its own people just a
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Speaker 5: few weeks ago, To someone who has blood of Westerners
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Speaker 5: all across the world that he's killed in many many
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Speaker 5: places through the octopus of terror, the Iranian octopus of terror,
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Speaker 5: to someone who turned a beautiful country of Iran into
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Speaker 5: a radical Islamist country. I think democracies need to stand
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Speaker 5: together against these kind of genocidal regimes.
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Speaker 2: And that is one thing we have seen with Iran
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Speaker 2: that I suppose not everyone realizes, is that their tentacles,
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Speaker 2: their reign of terror has reached as far as Australia,
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Speaker 2: where we've had two attacks in the past year that
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Speaker 2: were orchestrated by the IIGC and then conducted by other
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Speaker 2: criminals that they hired.
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Speaker 5: That's correct. The Iranian octopus send its arms all across
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Speaker 5: the world, including to Australia, to America, to Western Europe,
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Speaker 5: to Israel and to the whole Middle East. What we're
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Speaker 5: doing now is attacking the head of the octopus, as
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Speaker 5: opposed to trying to fight each of those sentacles. This
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Speaker 5: is the right approach, This is the smart approach going
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Speaker 5: to the epicenter of evil and terror.
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Speaker 2: Do you expect the war will only take four or
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Speaker 2: five weeks, as the President of the United States has said,
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Speaker 2: or do you think it needs to continue for as
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Speaker 2: long as it takes to achieve the war objectives.
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Speaker 5: We need to continue as long as it takes to
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Speaker 5: dismantle Iran's nuclear program, ballistic program, and terror apparatus. If
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Speaker 5: it takes a bit more, so be it. What we're
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Speaker 5: doing now is not easy. It's painful. Israelis have died,
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Speaker 5: I've been killed by Iranian missiles, so it's painful for everyone.
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Speaker 5: But the pain now will save us from a much,
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Speaker 5: much worst disaster of a nuclear nightmare over the entire world,
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Speaker 5: in the Iranian terror nuclear nightmare. So we act now
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Speaker 5: to prevent this later. You know, the West has been
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Speaker 5: debating Iran for thirty years. Israel has acted in one
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Speaker 5: night and done the job.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed for future generations. All right, Prime Minister Naftarlie
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Speaker 2: Bennett really appreciate your time.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: Okay, quick break, so we've got time for tonight. I'll
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Speaker 2: see you tomorrow. It'll be another big show and here's
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Speaker 2: for Marie