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The Kenny Report | 1 April · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying You Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report. Thanks for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 3: The Prime Minister's addressed to the nation over the fuel
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  Speaker 3: crisis a show of leadership or an April Fool's Day joke.
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  Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson and Alexander Downer will join me live, also
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  Speaker 3: a labor minister on our energy future. You will not
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  Speaker 3: believe the delusion. We'll also also look at the latest
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  Speaker 3: from the Middle East war with Tom Switzer. Esther Kraku
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  Speaker 3: in the UK tells us how police will stop prosecuting
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: people over social media posts. And in the Wednesday wrangle,
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  Speaker 3: Danika and Justin I'll debate Albo's weakness.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 3: So the Prime Minister Anthony Alberanezi is going to take
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  Speaker 3: the unusual step of addressing the nation tonight all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden, after weeks of playing down the fuel crisis
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  Speaker 3: and trying to avoid war against Iran, while all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden, all this warrants and address to the nation,
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  Speaker 3: as the Opposition asked in Parliament today, you have to
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  Speaker 3: wonder what's changed.
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  Speaker 4: My question is to the Prime Minister. Yesterday the Prime
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  Speaker 4: Minister told ABC Melbourne, I quote fuel supplies have not
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  Speaker 4: been disrupted. Tonight, the Prime Minister will deliver an emergency
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  Speaker 4: address to the nation. Prime Minister, what has changed since yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: Give a call to the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 5: Nothing has changed since yesterday?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing since yesterday. The key day was perhaps the
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  Speaker 3: day before, when not only did Labor slip slightly in
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  Speaker 3: the polls, but the Prime minister's own negative standing slipped
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  Speaker 3: by three points. That is, fifty seven percent of voters
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  Speaker 3: do not approve of his performance. Eighteen percent sent more
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  Speaker 3: than those who do approve. So suddenly a government more
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  Speaker 3: about politics than policy has reacted. They flipped from pooh
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  Speaker 3: poohing the opposition's idea of cutting fuel excise to doing
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  Speaker 3: exactly that, and now we're going to get an address
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  Speaker 3: to the nation. I doubt there will be much substance
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  Speaker 3: in this. It'll be more about trying to give the
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  Speaker 3: appearance of gravitas. It comes the night after the former
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  Speaker 3: Deputy National Health Officer had this to say.
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  Speaker 6: My concern with BONDI my concern with the fuel crisis
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  Speaker 6: is that there's a lot of reaction, there's a lot
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  Speaker 6: of catchup, and in those press conferences it looks like
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  Speaker 6: someone who's getting irritated with the questions rather than rather
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  Speaker 6: than leading the country along. And I think if that's
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  Speaker 6: the persona that's being projected during times of crisis, not
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  Speaker 6: now just with one, but with two consecutive crises, then
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  Speaker 6: in these times of uncertainty, that's a deep worry for
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  Speaker 6: the country.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty devastating, wasn't it, And pretty accurate as you've heard
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  Speaker 3: on this program for years, Albanesi always fails to lead.
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  Speaker 3: There are two key diagnoses that I've shared with you
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  Speaker 3: about Anthony Albanesi over the past few years. Two key
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  Speaker 3: character assessments, if you like, character flaws that undermine all
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  Speaker 3: he does and doesn't do as Prime minister.
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  Speaker 2: One is his refusal to take.
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  Speaker 3: Responsibility for anything, and the other is just his weakness.
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  Speaker 3: Albanizi is always weak. He is the invertebrate prime minister.
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  Speaker 3: If you think the Albanesi Labor government is weak and woke,
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  Speaker 3: you know week on Israel, week on anti Semitism and
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  Speaker 3: Islamist extremism, week on the Alliance, week on China, and
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  Speaker 3: week on borders and immigration, as well as woke on
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  Speaker 3: climate change and identity politics. Well of course you'd be right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: time and again, this bloke hides from blame or accountability.
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  Speaker 3: Any duck shoves responsibility.
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  Speaker 5: We're hearing that an asylum sekert vote has arrived off
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  Speaker 5: to the Western Australian coastline.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know anything about that.
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  Speaker 5: I've been traveling in the car, so I haven't been
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  Speaker 5: advised about that. Of course, so state bail schemes are
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  Speaker 5: run by the state's Big of Australia and independent body,
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  Speaker 5: and the government doesn't direct them on what to do.
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  Speaker 5: This is not my proposal. This is the Australian people's proposal.
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  Speaker 5: State and churchary governments are responsible primarily for those issues.
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  Speaker 4: You have to contact with the Iranian and fasted up
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  Speaker 4: following those stripes overnight.
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  Speaker 5: No, hopefully, Well, I've been here in Melbourne, so.
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  Speaker 2: No, I have not.
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  Speaker 3: It's been so bad and so common that we came
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  Speaker 3: up with a theme songs.
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  Speaker 7: As he gets a due, he thinks says not not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there're Robinson brothers there now.
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  Speaker 3: Even worse, Alban EASi has been unable to tell fact
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  Speaker 3: from fiction, truth from lies. He's tried to fool people
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  Speaker 3: over power prices.
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  Speaker 5: Reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars,
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  Speaker 5: falling by two hundred and seventy five dollars per household,
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  Speaker 5: two hundred and seventy five dollars a year, reducing energy
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  Speaker 5: prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars, reducing people's
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  Speaker 5: power bills by two hundred and seventy five dollars. It's
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  Speaker 5: reputexas modeling. It's reputexas modeling. It's reputexas modeling from that time.
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  Speaker 5: It's reputexas modeling based upon the circumstances at that time.
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  Speaker 3: Not his promise, somebody else's modeling. He's also tried to
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  Speaker 3: fool people over things that have come right out of
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  Speaker 3: his own mouth.
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  Speaker 2: Grace Tame difficult.
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  Speaker 5: She has had a difficult life. And that was what
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  Speaker 5: I was referring to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he was referring to.
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  Speaker 3: And he's even denied what we've all seen with our
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  Speaker 3: own eyes.
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  Speaker 2: Photos with everyone.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, I stepped back one step.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't fall off the stage, just one leg went down.
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  Speaker 2: But I was sweet, Oh dear. He is no leader,
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  Speaker 2: is he?
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  Speaker 3: And whether it was failing to share details of his
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  Speaker 3: proposed indigenous voice, failing to stand by Israel when under attack,
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  Speaker 3: failing to combat anti Semitism at home, not heeding warnings
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  Speaker 3: about Islamist terrorism, resisting calls for a royal commission after
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  Speaker 3: the Bondai massacre, not adding to pressure on Iran, or
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  Speaker 3: failing to deal with the fuel crisis. This bloke has
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  Speaker 3: been weak at every turn, and now he's going to
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  Speaker 3: address the nation to try to convince us that he's
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  Speaker 3: a leader.
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  Speaker 2: No amount of words could do that.
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  Speaker 3: Leaders reveal themselves through decisive action. So let me describe
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  Speaker 3: what Albanese needs to include tonight to show leadership. First,
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  Speaker 3: Albanese must explain how he'll ensure that we meet our
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  Speaker 3: obligation to store ninety days worth of fuel reserves. And
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  Speaker 3: he needs to explain how he'll boost our refining capacity
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  Speaker 3: in this country so that we can use more of
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  Speaker 3: our own oil and other fossil fuels. He needs to
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  Speaker 3: finally explain how he'll prioritize energy security over pointless UN
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  Speaker 3: climate change goals. On strategic issues, Albanes he needs to
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  Speaker 3: unambiguously support the US and Israeli war against the Islamist
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  Speaker 3: theocracy of Iran and condemn Iran's attacks directly and through
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  Speaker 3: proxies against Israel. And he's got to support action that
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  Speaker 3: stops Iran exporting terrorism, including to Australia. Alberz, he must
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  Speaker 3: reveal how he'll repair relations with Israel and crucially with
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  Speaker 3: our key ally, the United States. Scrapping his unwise recognition
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  Speaker 3: of the non existent state of Palestine.
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  Speaker 2: Would be a good start.
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  Speaker 3: You don't defeat terrorism and terrorist states by giving them
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  Speaker 3: what you think they want, So there's a checklist for you.
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  Speaker 3: Unless Albanzi provides real energy solutions and real strategic strength,
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  Speaker 3: then tonight's address will be a sham, a piece of
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  Speaker 3: politicking rather than leadership. My tipars will get the usual
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  Speaker 3: weak and woke word Salid. He'll include an Easter message
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  Speaker 3: because he's been criticized for mentioning Muslim holy days and
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  Speaker 3: ignoring Christian ones, but he'll do nothing substantial about energy
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  Speaker 3: because he's more interested in climate virtue signaling. And there'll
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  Speaker 3: be nothing of substance on strategic positioning either, because in essence,
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  Speaker 3: Albanezi is a radical leftist activist, and supporting liberal democracies
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  Speaker 3: like Israel and the US just doesn't come easy. We'll
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  Speaker 3: see in less than two hours time. Let's hope he
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  Speaker 3: surprises us, but I express I expect this will be
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  Speaker 3: less like Albo's Energy and Strategy Reset and more like
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  Speaker 3: Albo's April Fool's Day chat. Let me expand on the
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  Speaker 3: renewable energy side of that equation by showing some of
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  Speaker 3: what one of Anthony Albanesi's leading ministers had to say today.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to believe this stuff, so let me just
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  Speaker 3: show it to you.
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  Speaker 9: I think one of the absolute no brainers from what's
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  Speaker 9: happening in Iran is the urgency of Australia to become
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  Speaker 9: energy independent. So you know, there's liberals who are talking
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  Speaker 9: at the moment about the need for us to move
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  Speaker 9: away from net zero. That is exactly backwards to.
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  Speaker 2: What we need to be doing.
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  Speaker 9: We have the most abundant supply of renewables energy of
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  Speaker 9: any country in the world. Renewables are cheaper than other
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  Speaker 9: new forms of energy, and our country is already successfully
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  Speaker 9: making this transition. And I just point out to everyone
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  Speaker 9: who's watching at home, there isn't a global power that
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  Speaker 9: can stop us from using the sun and win that
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  Speaker 9: we've been gifted as endowments to Australia.
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  Speaker 3: No global power can undercut renewable energy in Australia. They
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  Speaker 3: can't stop us using the sun and the wind. Has
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  Speaker 3: she ever heard of China? We import our solar panels
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  Speaker 3: from China. We import our wind turbines from China. We
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  Speaker 3: import our batteries from you guessed it, we get them
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  Speaker 3: from China too. We import our electric cars from China.
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  Speaker 3: We import our electric appliances from China. The renewables push
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  Speaker 3: has made us completely reliant on Chinese imports and susceptible,
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  Speaker 3: of course, to Chinese interference and interference through some of
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  Speaker 3: this kit and guess what. Of course, China makes all
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  Speaker 3: this with our iron ore, our book site, and our coal.
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  Speaker 3: They are happily increasing their emissions, making themselves rich, while
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  Speaker 3: we make ourselves poor and them rich by persisting with
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  Speaker 3: a transition to lower our eager share of global emissions.
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  Speaker 3: This is what labor and the greens and the tills,
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  Speaker 3: this is what the Labor, Green and Teal alliance is
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  Speaker 3: delivering for this country.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back to that interview.
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  Speaker 9: There isn't a global power that can stop us from
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  Speaker 9: using the sun and wind that we've been gifted as
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  Speaker 9: endowments to Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Freight trucks run on diesel.
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  Speaker 9: All this is going to take time. Economy run all
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  Speaker 9: this is going to take time. I really accept that
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  Speaker 9: it's not as.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the small matter of trucks, oh and tractors,
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  Speaker 3: utes and trains and ships, I mean all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: If the fuel crisis is underline one point, it is
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  Speaker 3: that our economy runs on fossil fuels.
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  Speaker 2: That's what keeps us going.
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  Speaker 3: But the labor Greens and teil alliance, they live in
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  Speaker 3: some climate change fantasy land.
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  Speaker 9: Takes some time to mine new sources of energy for
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  Speaker 9: our country. But I think one thing any politician surely
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  Speaker 9: would take away from the current context is we need
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  Speaker 9: to stand on our own two feet. And the way
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  Speaker 9: that I see us doing that in the medium and
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  Speaker 9: longer term is through this massive endowment of renewables that
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  Speaker 9: we've been.
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  Speaker 6: We've weeded a lot of gas, so heaper gas, and
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  Speaker 6: we've got a lot of it here.
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  Speaker 2: We should be tapping into it, should we.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean a b Aloo basin can provide energy
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  Speaker 3: for this country for two hundred years.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's why our government takes a really practical
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  Speaker 9: approach to these things. We don't say only renewables as
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  Speaker 9: Australia's future. We are obviously going to continue to need
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  Speaker 9: gas for some time. And that's why the and that's
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  Speaker 9: why you've seen the Environment Minister over time make good,
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  Speaker 9: rational decisions about areas that he sees are open for
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  Speaker 9: further exploration for the gas that we need as a country.
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  Speaker 9: But the absolute endpoint of this must be a country
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  Speaker 9: that's powered by renewables, because these are this is the
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  Speaker 9: cheapest form of energy there is here and we're already,
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  Speaker 9: you know, massively using renewables to power our country and
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  Speaker 9: that should only continue.
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  Speaker 3: These are just not serious people, are they? They reckon
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  Speaker 3: we can shift all our cars and trucks to electricity
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  Speaker 3: at the same time they shift all our electricity from
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  Speaker 3: colon gas to windmills and solar panels. No mention of
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  Speaker 3: the trillion dollars or this will cost, or the fact
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  Speaker 3: that it's technologically impossible to deliver.
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  Speaker 2: What madness.
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  Speaker 3: We are actually being run by fools, and we can't
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  Speaker 3: complain about any of our problems because they are all
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  Speaker 3: self inflicted. Let's go lied to Canberra now and catch
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  Speaker 3: up with One Nation leader, Pauline Hansen.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. Paulina.
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  Speaker 3: You must be looking forward to Anthony Arberze's address to
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  Speaker 3: the Nation tonight what are you expecting.
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  Speaker 10: I think he might be preparing the nation to say
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  Speaker 10: there's going to be fuel rationing, and he's going to
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  Speaker 10: do it just before because these people are preparing to
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  Speaker 10: go away, they're going to fuel ration Will these people
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  Speaker 10: be able to get fuel? What I understand, Chris, is
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  Speaker 10: that I've heard that Career, who has more fuel supply
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  Speaker 10: than what we do, and Japan that has two hundred
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  Speaker 10: days of fuel storage, they are going to start rationing
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  Speaker 10: in those countries. So this is where I foresee it.
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  Speaker 10: I think he may have heard about that. It tells
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  Speaker 10: the story. We have to be very careful how we
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  Speaker 10: can move forward from here to ensure that our essential services,
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  Speaker 10: the police, the ambulance, the hospitals, all these essential services
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  Speaker 10: that they do have fuel.
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  Speaker 3: It's extraordinary that we are in this situation. As I've
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  Speaker 3: just outlined, we have a government which is consistently undermining
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  Speaker 3: our energy security in terms of the electricity grid, but
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to fuels for our transport, we've had
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  Speaker 3: this obligation to have ninety days of storage and we've
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  Speaker 3: never got anywhere near it.
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  Speaker 2: We're lucky to be a third of that now.
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  Speaker 3: Coalition and labor governments have got to accept responsibility for that.
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  Speaker 2: So surely tonight he must.
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  Speaker 3: Outline how quickly we can build the infrastructure to make
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  Speaker 3: sure we've got that storage and also.
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  Speaker 2: The ability to refine more fuel.
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  Speaker 10: Here you are correct and what you say in twenty
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  Speaker 10: nineteen and in twenty twenty one twice on the Florid Parliament,
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  Speaker 10: I actually spoke about this at length about fuel security
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  Speaker 10: and our storage. Now I saw it was coming chris
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  Speaker 10: Idon didn't get back into parliament twenty sixteen, I could
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  Speaker 10: understand what was going to happen. They have not ever
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  Speaker 10: had a vision for the future to protect this nation
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  Speaker 10: with their own sovereignty. And this is the problem with
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  Speaker 10: both of them. And they've given up on going after
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  Speaker 10: fossil fuels and they've shut it down. Both of them
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  Speaker 10: have been responsible for that. Under this net zero climate
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  Speaker 10: change be as that we've had to deal with, we
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  Speaker 10: are in one hell of a mess. We've lost over
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  Speaker 10: fourteen hundred industries and manufacturing. We have lost forty seven
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  Speaker 10: thousand small businesses that have gone insolvent. These people have
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  Speaker 10: shot their businesses because of the cost of energy. It
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  Speaker 10: comes down to the cost of energy. We've got two
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  Speaker 10: refineries back in two thousand, we had eight refineries that
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  Speaker 10: supplied our needs throughout the whole country, and we were
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  Speaker 10: manufacturing about three hundred and twenty thousand cars a year
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  Speaker 10: and twenty eight thousand commercial vehicles a year. We can't
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  Speaker 10: run it this day and time. You know, they knew
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  Speaker 10: that they're paying for these refineries, are costing two point
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  Speaker 10: three billion dollars dollars a year for these refineries to
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  Speaker 10: stay open to twenty twenty seven, possibly twenty thirty, and
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  Speaker 10: then what's going to happen after that.
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  Speaker 2: We have just allowed.
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  Speaker 10: Ourselves vulnerable in a position where I've said, then you've
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  Speaker 10: got to have fuel storage, and we've got to process
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  Speaker 10: the resources that we have here. We've got to drill
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  Speaker 10: for oil, we've got to drill for more gas. But
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  Speaker 10: you know when Clara Nelle says, where exploration going on,
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  Speaker 10: go to Victoria, see if you can in.
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  Speaker 2: Licuria they want to. You can't draw on Victoria.
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  Speaker 3: You can't drill in large parts of New South Wales, Queensland,
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  Speaker 3: South Australia on shore offshore.
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  Speaker 2: It is madness what we've done to ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: And you hear someone like that, a cabinet minister saying
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  Speaker 3: that somehow there's got to be this grand nirvana where
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  Speaker 3: the whole country runs on windmills and solar panels, a
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  Speaker 3: modern industrial complex economy, and people at the ABC and
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  Speaker 3: the Sydney Morning Herald and they all pretend this can
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  Speaker 3: actually happen. It is absolute madness and not enough people
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  Speaker 3: are calling it out.
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  Speaker 10: Well, Chris, I've got to say it was one nation
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  Speaker 10: ruled out the proposal to cut the fuel excise tax
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  Speaker 10: for three months but one hundred percent, and to cut
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  Speaker 10: the GST. Both those have been raised. It wasn't It
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  Speaker 10: wasn't the Coalition. It was one Nation that did it.
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  Speaker 10: It was Barnaby Joyce after I had a talk with him,
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  Speaker 10: that went and spoke to the Prime Minister the last
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  Speaker 10: weekend about fuel security and underwriting the tankers coming out here.
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  Speaker 10: So we have led the way all the time with
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  Speaker 10: good policy and vision how this should be fixed up.
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  Speaker 10: Just before we let you go, that's constantly yep, just
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  Speaker 10: before I let.
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  Speaker 2: You go, I'm leading the way.
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  Speaker 3: You're still leading the Coalition in the polls, you're still
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  Speaker 3: polling twenty six percent federally, You've got the Victorian election
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  Speaker 3: coming up in November last year, and.
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  Speaker 2: Just to tie the circle.
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  Speaker 3: We caught up of course in South Australia during the
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  Speaker 3: last week of that election campaign.
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  Speaker 2: It now seems clear.
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  Speaker 3: That one Nation is going to win four Lower House seats.
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  Speaker 3: That's compared to the Liberals with five. So four lower
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  Speaker 3: House seats, of course, with two in the Upper House,
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  Speaker 3: at least possibly three, it's an incredible outcome.
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  Speaker 2: In South Australia.
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  Speaker 10: You have got three in the Upper House. I have
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  Speaker 10: got three, so seven all up house, Chris, extraordinary, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 10: we have got seven. It is extraordinary. Nearly twenty three
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  Speaker 10: percent of the primary vote that we polled there. It
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  Speaker 10: is extraordinary, Chris. What I keep saying, people want change.
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  Speaker 10: They're sick and tired of these political parties. They don't
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  Speaker 10: have vision for the future, they don't have answers. We're
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  Speaker 10: in the dire mess that we are in this country
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  Speaker 10: because they're policies under both of them, and people want
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  Speaker 10: clear policies, directions, someone like one nation who has this
• 20:17
  Speaker 10: country and it's people at heart. I've always said what
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: is in Australia's best interest, and I'll keep pushing forward.
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: I'll keep fighting for the people and too right, I'm
• 20:26
  Speaker 10: going after Victoria. So people have decent representation down there,
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: but I'm going to win Pharah next.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Fara's next on the list of course in May. Thanks
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: for joining us, Paulin, Pauline and Hanson. They're live from Camber.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Let's go to London now and catch up with former
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Foreign Minister Alexander Downer. I want to follow up on
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: some of this stuff with you, Alexander. Thanks for joining
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: us again. We caught up in South Australia of course on.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: That election weekend as well.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: And when you see that's washed through pretty much as
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: we expected on the night. Three seats in the Upper
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: House and four seats in the Lower House, just one
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: behind the Liberals. What's your sense of this one nation
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: juggernaut at the moment and how the Liberals are going
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: to be able to actually fight back against that, both
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: in Victoria and federally.
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I'm speaking to you from the
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: UK and exactly the same thing has happened but a
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: year earlier here in the UK, where reform, which is
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: a sort of rough equivalent of one nation, has eaten
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: not just the Conservative vote, but has eaten the labor
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: vote as well, and you can see this in many
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: other countries where exactly the same thing is happening. I mean,
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: I think it's just what you've been talking about is
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: a good example, this sort of passion for net zero,
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: claims that renewables are going to be cheaper, the cheapest
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: form of energy. I mean, how stupid are people? They
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: can see energy prices continuing to increase. We're reaching record
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: levels of electricity prices in Australia and record levels of renewables.
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: We have a crisis, so called crisis like now. And
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: Australia is rich in natural energy resources in gas and
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: coal and so on, and we don't exploit it, and
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: you know, we're against it where we just want windmills
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: and solar farms. Things like that really annoy people After
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: a while, it seems that the political class is disconnected
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: from common sense, and that's why voters will start, you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: having moving around to other parties which might be strange
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: outfits and might not know the answers, but it's a
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: protest against particularly the major plical parties. So for the liberals,
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: they've got to address those issues and address them with
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: strong ideas and articulate that articulate them with a fair
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: degree of courage.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, spot on.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Let me bring you to the Prime minister planning to
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: address the nation tonight.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: This doesn't happen very often.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I recall, of course John Howard when he was Prime
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Minister addressing the nation to explain why Australia was joining
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: the war in Iraq. I think he also addressed the
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: nation after the Bali atrocities. But this, this crisis, this
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: fuel crisis, Anthony Abernzi addressing the nation tonight, it seems
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: more political. It seems like it's a prime minister trying
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: to re establish his authority.
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: Well, my observation of Anthony Alberanesi when I asked about
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: him is that I say, well, he's not charismatic or
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: anything like that. He can't do anything about that. But
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: his politic leave very cunning. That's what he is. He's cunning.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: He always has a little plan for regressive addressing the
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: latest crisis or incident. It's always someone else's fault and
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: there'll be some sticking plaster plaster offered, but there's no
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: long term plan. Now, a long term plan should involve
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: a couple of things. First of all, making sure when
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: you're not in a crisis, you run a proper budget.
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: You don't build up budget.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Deficits and good times. Yeah, And the.
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: Problem is now we need to use some of some
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: public money to help us through a difficult time. I
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: don't think it will last very long, but we probably
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: do need some public money to help us through this.
• 24:57
  Speaker 11: But we spent all.
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: The money already through good times because it's popular to
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: do that to expand entitlements. So there's been no long
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: term planning. It's the same with energy. We've talked about
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: that already. I mean, we're not exploiting our gas when
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: you make the point that it's not being exploited in
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: Victoria at all, parts of South Australia and so on
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: elsewhere New South Wales, and so suddenly this all catches
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: up with us when we need more domestic, domestically produced energy.
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: So I don't know whether he'll address these issues, but
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: he also needs to make it perfectly clear that the
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: guarranteur of Western security, including our security, is the United States,
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: and when the United States is at more as it
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: is at the moment, Australia should be unequivocal at the
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: very east in its rhetorical support, not play both ends
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: against the middle. So I hope he'll make that clear,
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: but he hasn't been very clear up until now.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for sure. Absolutely. Thanks for joining us, Alexander.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Alexander.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Down there in London, says Anthony Albanezi is cunning.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I'm reminded of Blackadder. So cunning.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: He put a tail on him and call him a fox.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: We'll see what he comes up with at seven o'clock tonight.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Don't miss it here on Sky News. We'll take a
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: break now, but on the other side of that we'll
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: talk about the latest time.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: In the Middle East War with Tom Switzer. Welcome back.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: As we were discussing with Pauline Hanson, she was suggesting
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: there could be fuel rationing tonight. I don't want to
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: alarm you. We don't know what the Prime Minister is
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: going to say. We'll wait and see at seven o'clock.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: But just the breaking news out of Western Australia where
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: the Premier there, Roger Cook, has declared a state of emergency,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: so giving the stake Cup but there are extra powers
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: over the distribution of fuel in Western Australia.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: He's that worried about the situation that a.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: State of emergency has been declared in the West, so
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: perhaps the worst of the fuel crisis is.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Not behind us yet.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Now, just related to that, I want to mention that
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: as Albanezi addresses the nation tonight at seven. Of course,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: in the US, tomorrow Donald Trump tomorrow our time, that is,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: he's going to give his own address. That's going to
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: be midday our time. In Australia, he'll be speaking from
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: the Oval Office, and the presidents again hinted that what
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: he's going to be talking about is the Middle East
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: War and saying that it could soon be over.
• 27:40
  Speaker 11: I would say that within two weeks, maybe two weeks,
• 27:45
  Speaker 11: maybe three. They don't have to make a deal with me.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: When we feel that they are.
• 27:50
  Speaker 11: For a long period of time put into the Stone
• 27:53
  Speaker 11: Ages and they won't be able to come up with
• 27:56
  Speaker 11: a nuclear weapon, then we'll leave. Whether we have a
• 28:00
  Speaker 11: deal or not, it's irrelevant.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Tom Switzer, columnists with The Australian, joins me in the studio.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Tom is going to be fascinating to see what he says,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: because I can't keep up with Trump at the moment.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: On this one minute, he's threatening to bomb Iran into submission.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: The next minute he says he's doing a deal with them.
• 28:17
  Speaker 12: He doesn't know if he's Arthur or Martha, but I
• 28:19
  Speaker 12: think he knows that Middle America doesn't want to see
• 28:22
  Speaker 12: a protracted, open ended conflict, so he wants to shut
• 28:25
  Speaker 12: it down as soon as possible, and he's sending all
• 28:27
  Speaker 12: sorts of signals that he'll do that, and the markets
• 28:29
  Speaker 12: like that.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: They have.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: The markets have rebounded around the world today on the
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: sniff of this. But if he were going to announce
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: tomorrow some way to end the war, that suggests that
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: there must be some negotiation with Iran, do you think
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: because Iran's been denying any serious negotia, I.
• 28:46
  Speaker 12: Think it's in Tayran's interest to actually prolong the war
• 28:49
  Speaker 12: because they want to make the Americans suffer, and they
• 28:52
  Speaker 12: want the Americans to meet the Iranians on certain conditions.
• 28:57
  Speaker 12: As we discussed last week, they want sanctions, relief, they
• 28:59
  Speaker 12: want reparations, and they want a commitment by the Americans
• 29:02
  Speaker 12: and the Israelis not to strike at Iran again.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: That's not going to happen.
• 29:07
  Speaker 12: So again, these fundamental objectives on both sides are fundamentally incompatible.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Well, what about the point that the US doesn't really
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: need the Strait of Humus. The US is now energy
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: self sufficient. It's the rest of the world that needs
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: this oil coming out of those Gulf states. So Trump
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: has put it on the rest of the world.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Have a look at this.
• 29:30
  Speaker 11: If France or some other country wants to get oil
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: or gas, they'll go up through the street and Hormos Street.
• 29:40
  Speaker 11: They're right up there, and they'll be able to fend
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: for themselves. I think it'll be very safe, actually, but
• 29:46
  Speaker 11: we have nothing to do with it. What happens to
• 29:48
  Speaker 11: the street, We're not going to have anything.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: To do with it. Again, this seems like bluff and bluster.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: The US just takes itself out of the security equation there.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Well, he's right in.
• 29:57
  Speaker 12: The sense that America doesn't rely the Strait of hor
• 30:00
  Speaker 12: moves for energy supplies because America is energy independent exactly
• 30:04
  Speaker 12: whereas Europe and Asia are still heavily dependent on those
• 30:07
  Speaker 12: energy flows from the striking the move.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Isn't it that I'm looking after your economy, I'm looking
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: after your interests, and you're doing nothing to help.
• 30:15
  Speaker 12: The problem he's got, though, is that Tehran does have
• 30:18
  Speaker 12: a degree of strategic leverage. Remember before February twenty eight,
• 30:21
  Speaker 12: that is before the US Israeli strikes, Iran controlled only
• 30:26
  Speaker 12: four to five percent of the energy outflow through the
• 30:29
  Speaker 12: Strait of hor Moves, and that was essentially Iran's output.
• 30:32
  Speaker 12: But since then they've managed to control twenty percent of
• 30:36
  Speaker 12: the energy output that's going through the Strait of hor Moves, so.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: They have a lot of leverage.
• 30:40
  Speaker 11: Now.
• 30:41
  Speaker 12: The question here is the Americans also have leverage over
• 30:44
  Speaker 12: the Europeans and the Asians because they will want reliable energy,
• 30:48
  Speaker 12: and a good supplier of that, of course, is the
• 30:50
  Speaker 12: United States.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me about the role of China and all
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: of this, because China's reliant also on exports from this
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: area and has been in remarkably quiet.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Is that a good thing?
• 31:02
  Speaker 12: Well, it's important to note that the Iranian oil exports
• 31:06
  Speaker 12: are still going through the Strait of holl Moves to China.
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: The United States have not intimidated those tankers going through
• 31:13
  Speaker 12: the Strait of hall Moves. And that's for two reasons.
• 31:15
  Speaker 12: The Americans don't want to go up the escalation ladder
• 31:18
  Speaker 12: because that would only prompt Uranians to go up the
• 31:21
  Speaker 12: escalation ladder as well. And the second reason is is
• 31:24
  Speaker 12: the Americans have an interest in having more oil go through,
• 31:27
  Speaker 12: Otherwise it will be a problem for the oil market.
• 31:29
  Speaker 12: It will just conflate the inflate the oil market.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Tell me about the outcomes here, because this is what
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: it gets down to.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: The war could finish tomorrow.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: But has the Western world and people who support some
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: action against Iran got what they need? That is, will
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: the nuclear capacity be completely destroyed, Will Iran's ability to
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: continue to attack Israel, either directly or through its proxies
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: have been destroyed? And will Iran stop exporting terrorism around
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: the world, including to Australia.
• 31:58
  Speaker 12: Well, the cold hard reality is this day and this
• 32:00
  Speaker 12: seems increasingly likely their regime will survive. It's been battered
• 32:04
  Speaker 12: and bruised, no question about that, but it will probably survive.
• 32:09
  Speaker 12: The other point to bear in mind is that they
• 32:10
  Speaker 12: still have enriched uranium and that's going to be very
• 32:14
  Speaker 12: hard to destroy completely because it's heavily bunkered. And the
• 32:18
  Speaker 12: other point to bear in mind is the Uranians will
• 32:20
  Speaker 12: still keep supporting their militia proxies because they see that
• 32:23
  Speaker 12: as a form of deterrence against the Sunnis.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Even though they are being destroyed as we speak in
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: southern Lebanon. The Hesbalah's book There's no question that Iran
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: has taken a heavy toll here, but the American credibility
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: and prestige is also being battered because the.
• 32:38
  Speaker 12: Goal initially was to destroy the regime and force it
• 32:41
  Speaker 12: to give up its uranium enrichment programs. Neither of those
• 32:44
  Speaker 12: goals have been met.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we will see, we will see.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us again, Tom, appreciate Tom switzeag read
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: his stuff in The Australian and elsewhere.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Get onto his podcast too.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: After the break went across to the UK catch up
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: with this to Kraker talk about how the police there
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: are going to stop the chasing people are the social
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: media posts.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Let's head the.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: UK where there's been a victory for common sense. The
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: governments announced an overhaul of how so called non crime
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: hate incidents, or ncchis for short, are investigated. Ncchis are
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: recorded when reports to police don't reach the threshold for
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: a hate crime, but the caller perceives a hostility to
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: certain characteristics like race or gender. Now, new guidelines state
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: that police forces will only log incidents deemed relevant to policing, or,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: in the words of the UK Home Office, police time
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: will no longer be wasted investigating legal social media posts,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: freeing up officers to patrol the streets and tackle real crime.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: By scrapping non crime hate incidents, we are balancing the
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: protection of vulnerable communities are respecting free speech. These rules
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: have been seen as an affront to free speech, of course.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Just take a look at this report.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: From twenty twenty sky News UK outlining the case of
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: a man whose tweets landed him in the throes of
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: a hate crime investigation.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: It has been a long road, but Harry Miller, a
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: former police officer, is celebrating what he's called a massive
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: victory for free speech. Mister Miller found himself at the
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: center of a hate crime investigation. In one message, he wrote,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I was assigned mammal at birth, but my orientation is fish.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Don't miss species meat.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: You just couldn't make this stuff up, could you? Joining
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: me now? As writer and broadcaster. It's the Cracker live
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: in the UK.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: So this is a it's hard they've went down this path,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: but it's good news. I suppose that police are going
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: to stop hassling people for posts that break no law.
• 34:51
  Speaker 13: Yeah exactly, I mean this is really something small to celebrate,
• 34:54
  Speaker 13: but celebrate nonetheless, I suspect the government knew that this wasn't.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: A liable.
• 35:02
  Speaker 13: Basically policy to keep having. Just to remind you, last
• 35:06
  Speaker 13: week the policing figures showed that burglaries in the UK
• 35:11
  Speaker 13: were failed to be solved by the police last year.
• 35:15
  Speaker 13: So you have people sitting against this backdrop of the
• 35:17
  Speaker 13: police aren't investigating crimes. People's phones are being nicked willy nilly,
• 35:22
  Speaker 13: petty crime.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Is through the roof.
• 35:24
  Speaker 13: You could actually have video footage of someone burglarizing your
• 35:28
  Speaker 13: home and the police will not do anything about it.
• 35:30
  Speaker 13: But somehow they six officers can turn up to someone's
• 35:33
  Speaker 13: house overtweets, which are videos that we've seen go viral
• 35:36
  Speaker 13: across social media multiple times. So whether the police is
• 35:40
  Speaker 13: you know, bring a police time in this way will
• 35:42
  Speaker 13: actually go towards serving effective crime. I still remain skeptical
• 35:46
  Speaker 13: many police forces are still wilfully under equipped, and it
• 35:48
  Speaker 13: also makes you question the the the actual rationale and
• 35:52
  Speaker 13: thought process behind police forces that more that vigorously pursue
• 35:57
  Speaker 13: this policy. Not all police constabularies actually vigorously pursued these
• 36:02
  Speaker 13: non crime hate incidents where loads of police officers turn
• 36:05
  Speaker 13: up at at your door. Is the government going to
• 36:07
  Speaker 13: do something about police forces that were led by individuals
• 36:10
  Speaker 13: that thought, actually, the best use of our time is
• 36:12
  Speaker 13: to have a dozen police officers turn up at someone's
• 36:15
  Speaker 13: home for tweeting something about not being misspecied. I don't
• 36:19
  Speaker 13: think so. And so at the end of the day,
• 36:20
  Speaker 13: you're still going to have the root coll of the
• 36:23
  Speaker 13: cause of this problem, which are basically work police officers
• 36:25
  Speaker 13: that have no business policing our streets.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I've seen so many examples of your work police in
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: the UK much worse than is here.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Even I've got to get your thoughts on.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: We're all waiting to see what our Prime Minister is
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: going to say, and he's addressed to the nation in
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: less than an hour and a half from now. But
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: we've just got word that Keir Stamer is calling a
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: major press conference about an hour later on the Middle
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: East and the situation there.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Any hint what you're expecting to hear from your PM.
• 36:58
  Speaker 13: It's likely going to be related to the cost of energy.
• 37:01
  Speaker 13: This government has kind of had a two pronged approach,
• 37:03
  Speaker 13: which is trotting out Energy Secretary At Miliband on National
• 37:08
  Speaker 13: TV to talk about how he doesn't want he will
• 37:10
  Speaker 13: not let oil and energy companies rip off consumers, even
• 37:14
  Speaker 13: though he conveniently forgets to admit that over half of
• 37:17
  Speaker 13: what we pay at the pump for fuel is taxes,
• 37:20
  Speaker 13: so it's vat plus fuel duty.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: So if they really.
• 37:24
  Speaker 13: Wanted to give the average man who's facing the cost
• 37:27
  Speaker 13: of living a break, they would easily be able to
• 37:30
  Speaker 13: attain a fifty five percent discount by just removing the
• 37:33
  Speaker 13: tax on it. But that's not convenient. But then also
• 37:35
  Speaker 13: talking about the fact that the war is affecting things
• 37:38
  Speaker 13: like jet fuel, we know that Donald Trump released a
• 37:41
  Speaker 13: statement saying basically the UK and other countries can go
• 37:43
  Speaker 13: and get their own fuel, which is basically a job
• 37:46
  Speaker 13: at them for not helping, in his opinion, with the
• 37:49
  Speaker 13: offensive against Iran. And he's basically saying, these are the
• 37:51
  Speaker 13: consequences because as we know, the US is basically fuel
• 37:53
  Speaker 13: self sufficient, so it's probably going to be along the
• 37:57
  Speaker 13: lines of the cost of energy and what the government
• 38:00
  Speaker 13: planning on doing, which is not going to be.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Very much now.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: In the meantime, there's been announcements about King Charles heading
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: to the US a visit to the US. I'll get
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: your thoughts on that in a moment but he won't
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: be able to visit the new ballroom at the White
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: House because construction on that has been.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Halted by a federal court decision.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Let's have a listen to the president's thoughts on that decision.
• 38:26
  Speaker 11: But basically he's saying I need congressional approval, and he's
• 38:31
  Speaker 11: so wrong. This is being financed privately. It's a donation
• 38:35
  Speaker 11: that's being given by companies, very rich companies, very rich people,
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  Speaker 11: so that for one hundred and fifty years they've wanted
• 38:43
  Speaker 11: a ballroom here, We're going to have the finest for him.
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  Speaker 11: I believe anywhere in the world.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Every judge in the US wants to get involved on
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: the attacking, in attacking Donald Trump, even halting the ballroom now,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: it's ridiculous. But tell us about King Charles's visit to
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: s there and is he expecting to catch up with
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Trump among others.
• 39:05
  Speaker 13: Yes, it's a three day visit that the monarch accepted
• 39:10
  Speaker 13: at the end of this month, which can't come soon
• 39:12
  Speaker 13: enough because, as we've seen over the last few weeks,
• 39:14
  Speaker 13: the relationship between Kistarmer and Donald Trump has been rocky,
• 39:17
  Speaker 13: to say the least, mainly because of Donald Trump's very
• 39:20
  Speaker 13: vocal jobs at Kis Darmer like saying he's new Winston
• 39:24
  Speaker 13: Churchill and the fact that you know he delayed on
• 39:27
  Speaker 13: letting them use the Chegos Islands as a resource for
• 39:32
  Speaker 13: their military offensive against Iron, even though it's a joint
• 39:35
  Speaker 13: US and UK military base.
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  Speaker 6: So we know that.
• 39:38
  Speaker 13: One thing that we have in our arsenal, the only
• 39:40
  Speaker 13: thing that the UK has in its arsenal, is Donald
• 39:43
  Speaker 13: Trump's fondness for the royal family and for King Charles
• 39:46
  Speaker 13: in particular. You know that he was a huge fan
• 39:48
  Speaker 13: of the queen and this three day visit is hopefully
• 39:50
  Speaker 13: going to smooth over relations We know that's what ten
• 39:52
  Speaker 13: Downing Street is hoping for because Kis Darmer on his
• 39:55
  Speaker 13: own is a complete lightweight and he's just been taking
• 39:57
  Speaker 13: sort of job after job from Trump and I don't
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  Speaker 13: think on his own he's going to make a difference
• 40:02
  Speaker 13: in improving that that relationship.
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  Speaker 2: Just quickly.
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  Speaker 3: I want to squeeze in some people who are not
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: going to go to the US, have a look at
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: these players.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And he find a way past that man Christante.
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  Speaker 7: For Italy, it's off the bar.
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  Speaker 14: Barnock Tournament scars Bosleia Hatze Governor will play at the
• 40:25
  Speaker 14: World Cup.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, so Italy won't be playing in the World Cup
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: in North America. Tell us about the reaction in the
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: UK esther that they have sympathy for Italy or are
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: they mocking them?
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: They are mocking them.
• 40:39
  Speaker 13: I think one thing you can be sure when Italy
• 40:42
  Speaker 13: loses any sort of football tournament are the British memes
• 40:44
  Speaker 13: of reflecting their work ethic. Because we know the Italians
• 40:47
  Speaker 13: famously take the whole month of August off and they're
• 40:50
  Speaker 13: very relaxed in their approach to work, you know, kind
• 40:54
  Speaker 13: of the Ladoca vita, but they kind of be seen
• 40:58
  Speaker 13: as extending to their foot will prowess as well.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us as to appreciate it. At least
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Australia will be there, don't you worry about that. We're
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: going to get to a break. On the other side
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: of the Wednesday Wrangle with Denika and Justin we'll discuss
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: elbow's weakness. Let's get into the Wednesday wrangle. I've got
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Dnikas of Giorgio here on the desk, of course, host
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: of the co host of the Late Debate and host
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: extraordinary of opinionated all over the.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Place, and Justin Smith.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: He's all over the shop, radio, TV, books, the whole shebang.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I think we should have a bit of a discussion
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: about our prime minister, Justin, and it would be my contention.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I believe that Danika would likely agree with me, but
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking that you might disagree, and that is that
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Anthony Albernezi is perhaps the weakest prime minister we've had,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: certainly since Billy McMahon, if you can remember back that far.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: What say you, Justin?
• 41:58
  Speaker 14: Well, look, I mean, is this not really as far
• 42:02
  Speaker 14: as leadership goes? Is this not what we've had for
• 42:05
  Speaker 14: the last few prime ministers?
• 42:06
  Speaker 11: Though?
• 42:07
  Speaker 14: I mean, there's really anything particularly changed. You we're talking
• 42:11
  Speaker 14: about and talking to your old boss Alexander Downer before,
• 42:15
  Speaker 14: about the way the major political parties are moving to
• 42:19
  Speaker 14: minor parties and moving to independence and moving away.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Is this not the reason why?
• 42:24
  Speaker 14: I mean, I think, look, it's fair enough you don't
• 42:26
  Speaker 14: like Albow and that's fine, But is this not a
• 42:30
  Speaker 14: pattern that we've had for for quite a while now?
• 42:33
  Speaker 14: I don't think there's anything particularly new, is it.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: I think you're right in that we've been poorly led.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: We've had a series of poor prime ministers, but I've
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: never seen one so weak he.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Just won't accept responsibility for anything. Here's a sample who.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: I've been traveling in the car, so I haven't been
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: advised about that or so. State bail schemes are run
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: by the State Australia and independent body and the government
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: doesn't direct them on what to do. This is not
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: my proposal. This is the Australian People's proposal. State and
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: churchary governments are responsible primarily for those issues.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: It's just spineless, isn't it.
• 43:19
  Speaker 15: You know he's on a plane, he's been in the car,
• 43:22
  Speaker 15: so no. Therefore that gives him all the excuses in
• 43:24
  Speaker 15: the world to not be up to date with exactly
• 43:26
  Speaker 15: what's going on in his own country. This is a weak,
• 43:29
  Speaker 15: woke and hopeless prime minister. You know, Chris, we are
• 43:32
  Speaker 15: in the middle of a crisis right now. We're in
• 43:34
  Speaker 15: the middle of a fuel crisis. You have got farmers
• 43:37
  Speaker 15: out in the regions. They don't know how they're going
• 43:38
  Speaker 15: to get to A to B, they don't know how
• 43:40
  Speaker 15: they're going to conduct their operations. Fertilizer is now at
• 43:43
  Speaker 15: a natural disaster levels and the Prime Minister doesn't know
• 43:47
  Speaker 15: whether he's coming or going, so what he's going to
• 43:49
  Speaker 15: make this address to the nation tonight. Do we really
• 43:51
  Speaker 15: think that he's going to unite the nation? Is that
• 43:53
  Speaker 15: going to put our minds at ease when we're in
• 43:55
  Speaker 15: the middle of this crisis, because he's.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Been washing washing from the beginning.
• 43:58
  Speaker 15: First, well, no, b Justin, let's be honest here, right,
• 44:02
  Speaker 15: he has been wishy washy on this from the beginning.
• 44:05
  Speaker 15: First he told us not to panic. Then he goes, oh,
• 44:07
  Speaker 15: actually no, Now we're going to cut the fuel excise,
• 44:09
  Speaker 15: but we've still got an abundance of fuel in this country.
• 44:13
  Speaker 15: You've got people saying that they're wrong.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's playing politicans. That's the key point, Justin.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: And can you get your thoughts on that, because it
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: looks like nothing's really changed here. He's going to address
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: the nation, which is a very rare thing for a
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: prime minister to do. And it looks to me, as
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: you say, we've got to withhold final judgment to see
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: what he says. But it's going to look it looks
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: like he's got.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Nothing much to announce.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: It's going to be an attempt for him to reclaim
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: some sort of political advantage.
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: Ah.
• 44:44
  Speaker 14: Look, that's and that's the problem we've had And that's
• 44:46
  Speaker 14: the point I was making before, is it has all
• 44:49
  Speaker 14: been politics. That's what we've seen over the last few
• 44:52
  Speaker 14: leaders and this is on the state level as well.
• 44:53
  Speaker 14: It's what we we've sort of seen in leadership.
• 44:56
  Speaker 11: Now.
• 44:56
  Speaker 14: They are pole driven, they're worried about news cycles and look,
• 44:59
  Speaker 14: that's nothing new. But I don't think we've ever sort
• 45:01
  Speaker 14: of seen it as bad for the last twenty years,
• 45:04
  Speaker 14: that that lack of leadership. But I'd say, look, let's
• 45:06
  Speaker 14: just you know, I mean, the poor, poor elbow. He's
• 45:09
  Speaker 14: sitting there putting the last touching, you know, the last
• 45:12
  Speaker 14: touches on his speech, and Sky newses up in the
• 45:14
  Speaker 14: corner of his elbow.
• 45:16
  Speaker 15: You know, poor albare is nothing poor about poor albow,
• 45:19
  Speaker 15: Poor al What about poor Australians who've been fed bread
• 45:23
  Speaker 15: and butter for the last couple of years under this government.
• 45:25
  Speaker 15: He's got a few options tonight, Chris. I mean, he
• 45:27
  Speaker 15: might come out and say to us, everyone needs to
• 45:29
  Speaker 15: do their bit in this fuel.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Christ.
• 45:31
  Speaker 15: He might butter us up and then next week so
• 45:33
  Speaker 15: enjoy your Easter long weekend, butter us up, and the
• 45:36
  Speaker 15: next week suddenly restrictions are dropped on us. There's a
• 45:39
  Speaker 15: lot of ways this can go tonight, but it takes
• 45:41
  Speaker 15: a really strong leader, and Elbow is not that leader. Yeah.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I've outlined at the top of the program the
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: things I think he needs to do.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: He's got to do things to address our energy lack
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: of self sufficiency long term. He's got to explain that,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: and he's also going to talk about our strategic circumstances.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: But I want to go to a conversation I had
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: on this program last night with Nick Coatsworth, who's the
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: former Deputy National Health Officer in this country. As you know,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: someone who's not party political, someone's got a high profile,
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: highly respected, I would say, and I was quite astonished
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: at how vigorously he attacked the poor leadership of the
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Prime minister.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Here's a reminder.
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: My concern with BONDI my concern with the fuel crisis
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: is that there's a lot of reaction, there's a lot
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: of catchup, and in those press conferences it looks like
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: someone who's getting irritated with the questions rather than rather
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: than leading the country along. And I think if that's
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: the persona that's being projected during times of crisis, not
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: now just with one but with two consecutive crises. Then
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: in these times of uncertainty, that's a deep worry for
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: the country.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, justin I've got to say that resonated with people,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: because I was literally stopped in the streets last night
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: and this morning by people saying that they saw Nick
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Coatsworth and he was spot on.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: That means Albo's got a problem, doesn't it.
• 47:01
  Speaker 14: Yeah, look it does, and they've had it for a
• 47:04
  Speaker 14: very long time. And I mean, this guy, I know
• 47:07
  Speaker 14: what he's talking about when he says that they get
• 47:09
  Speaker 14: Narki with the question. That's always a particular favorite of
• 47:12
  Speaker 14: mine when they get in and Trump is obviously the
• 47:14
  Speaker 14: master of this one. But when they get Narki at
• 47:16
  Speaker 14: the question, you know that you're really onto something. As
• 47:19
  Speaker 14: a journalist, you're really starting to you know, you're sticking
• 47:23
  Speaker 14: the needle right in the in the right spot. But yeah,
• 47:27
  Speaker 14: I did watch that. It resonated with a lot of people.
• 47:29
  Speaker 14: I would say, yeah, I think so.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: The other thing that's starting to get home is the
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: repeated deceptions.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Have a look at this collection.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: Reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: It's reputexas modeling.
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: I stepped back one step.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: I didn't fall off the stage, just one leg went down.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: But I was sweet Grace tame difficult. She has had
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: a difficult life.
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: And that was what I was referring to.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: What he thinks we none of us saw this stuff.
• 48:05
  Speaker 15: No, not nothing to see here, Chris. I mean, are
• 48:07
  Speaker 15: some of my favorites from the archives? Aren't they absolutely brilliant?
• 48:10
  Speaker 15: You know, he's like a wind up, right, He's like
• 48:14
  Speaker 15: a wind up toy, and he just goes on and
• 48:17
  Speaker 15: on and on, but never actually makes any coherent sentences.
• 48:20
  Speaker 15: He tell you one thing and he tell you the other.
• 48:22
  Speaker 15: Yet he wants us to believe him that he's got
• 48:24
  Speaker 15: this fuel crisis under control.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: When you see the archival.
• 48:27
  Speaker 15: Vision like that, you know that this Prime minister, you
• 48:29
  Speaker 15: cannot believe a word he says.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, but don't worry.
• 48:31
  Speaker 15: Your power bills will come down by two hundred and
• 48:33
  Speaker 15: seventy five dollars, Chris, don't forget that they're coming down.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: If he's still coming justice.
• 48:37
  Speaker 14: The Liberal Party not doing incredibly result right now. The
• 48:41
  Speaker 14: Liberal Party not smashing yourself, denying just we're denying.
• 48:48
  Speaker 15: The Liberal Party have their issues hopeless.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: That I've got to get back to you, Justin. To
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: finish off with you need to explain this one to
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: us that how come they're going to build a giant
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: bloody of a kangaroo in and why is it going
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: to tag cost rate payers an extra two million dollars.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I can explain that very easily.
• 49:10
  Speaker 14: Everything costs more than they say it's going to cost,
• 49:13
  Speaker 14: and everything takes longer than they say it was going
• 49:16
  Speaker 14: to take. And that's just that's just the end of it.
• 49:19
  Speaker 14: I thought we could have done a little Look, I
• 49:22
  Speaker 14: don't hate the kangaroo, but I you know, if I
• 49:25
  Speaker 14: paid that price, you know i'd want to I'd want
• 49:28
  Speaker 14: it to be able to hop around the city and
• 49:29
  Speaker 14: gets around.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: I think we've got enough kangaroos. We don't need statues
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: of them. Thanks for joining us, Denika and Justin. We'll
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: catch you next week. I just want to squeeze in
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: a little bit of your feedback on the Albanezian leadership
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: after what Nick Coatesworth had to say last night, because
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: a lot of you got back to us.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Leadership is definitely not.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Albo's talent, was one response, and it's evident by now
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: that Albo and his naive cohort are incapable of any
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: in depth strategic planning, says another.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Thanks for watching. I'll have more tomorrow night. Here's Peter Quedlin.