Latest / Reality with The King / The Queen of Jackson & the Lebron of Beverly Hills?
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'm not only the Queen of Jackson, I'm the Queen
- 0:03Speaker 1: of Mississippi. I'm the queen of my castle. I am
- 0:07Speaker 1: the queen. I'm just a queen.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Stay tuned.
- 0:12Speaker 3: We'll get into my conversation with Mikeisha and give you
- 0:15Speaker 3: my opinion on the Lebron James of Housewives right after
- 0:20Speaker 3: these quick ass.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King,
- 0:34Speaker 2: the King of.
- 0:34Speaker 3: Reality TV and one of the most sought after executive
- 0:39Speaker 3: producers in reality television with over ten years of production experience.
- 0:45Speaker 3: Twice a week on Reality with the King, we'll sit
- 0:48Speaker 3: down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our
- 0:53Speaker 3: favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable moments that we are
- 0:58Speaker 3: still talking and tweeting about.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Out Hey, rain drops.
- 1:04Speaker 3: So before we get into my conversation with Aikeisha Holly
- 1:08Speaker 3: Cologne from this season of Bell Collective, I first got
- 1:12Speaker 3: to talk about a few things. Number One, we gotta
- 1:16Speaker 3: get into Lesarenna referring to herself as the Lebron James
- 1:23Speaker 3: of Housewives. Oh boy, see, this is what happens when.
- 1:28Speaker 2: You allow people, places, and things come on nowns.
- 1:37Speaker 3: To hop you up into believing something that isn't rooted
- 1:43Speaker 3: in reality.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Now, let me first.
- 1:46Speaker 3: Start off by saying I actually likely Serena. I know
- 1:49Speaker 3: that's a very unpopular opinion if you live your life
- 1:53Speaker 3: for social media, which a lot of people do, but
- 1:57Speaker 3: I likely Surenda. I think Lee Serena is good for
- 2:01Speaker 3: the show. Now, back in the day, day day, Lisa
- 2:05Speaker 3: Rena was excellent for the show.
- 2:08Speaker 2: She was somebody who.
- 2:09Speaker 3: Was just fun, you know, little messy and was able
- 2:14Speaker 3: to get the party started and as you know, rain drops.
- 2:17Speaker 3: I've been hard on Lisa Renna this season because she's
- 2:20Speaker 3: over acting.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Like I said to you guys before.
- 2:22Speaker 3: She's giving me an old retired magician to where the
- 2:27Speaker 3: tricks in your hat is no longer working Now this
- 2:30Speaker 3: season on Beverly Hills, obviously, Lisa Rena is getting a
- 2:34Speaker 3: lot of shade based on her storyline or a lack thereof,
- 2:41Speaker 3: and on her not really being honest and truthful about
- 2:47Speaker 3: her life and who she is. Like I said before,
- 2:50Speaker 3: I really enjoyed when Lisaurreana was vulnerable when her mom
- 2:54Speaker 3: Lois passed, and I would have loved to see more
- 2:58Speaker 3: scenes where she talked about that, where she and Harry
- 3:01Speaker 3: had conversations about what this means, where she and her
- 3:05Speaker 3: daughters really went into grand detail about what this loss
- 3:09Speaker 3: means for the family, like we were on this journey with.
- 3:12Speaker 2: You for a long time, and we all love Lois.
- 3:16Speaker 3: Lois was very integral in Lisa's storyline and listen, may
- 3:21Speaker 3: Lois rest in peace seriously and because of that, we
- 3:26Speaker 3: the audience feel cheated that we weren't able to really.
- 3:29Speaker 2: See how she was dealing with this.
- 3:32Speaker 3: And we do feel cheated because we also love Lois.
- 3:36Speaker 3: But now Lisa Morana is in the hot seat and
- 3:40Speaker 3: the depends dif first that she endorsed. She may need
- 3:42Speaker 3: to wear again because baby, they are reading her for
- 3:47Speaker 3: filth and sadly, you know, I may have to agree
- 3:51Speaker 3: with some of them, Lisa, because look to refer to
- 3:54Speaker 3: yourself as the Lebron James of Housewives and not.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Just Beverly Hills.
- 3:59Speaker 3: I mean, listen, girl, you're not even the Rick James
- 4:01Speaker 3: of Housewives, let alone Lebron James.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Okay, no, t no shade. Let's just keep it all
- 4:07Speaker 2: the way real. With that being said, I don't know.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Who.
- 4:15Speaker 3: I don't know who said that to you. Now you
- 4:18Speaker 3: did tag Michael Rappaport, who look I like Michael Rappaport,
- 4:26Speaker 3: I like anybody who loves reality TV as much as
- 4:30Speaker 3: we all do. But again, this is what happens when
- 4:34Speaker 3: you believe the hype that is being said about you.
- 4:38Speaker 2: Not from a crowd of people, but.
- 4:40Speaker 3: For one person, and that one person is Michael Rappaport,
- 4:45Speaker 3: who sometimes is very accurate in his descriptions of housewives.
- 4:50Speaker 3: But Michael Rappaport is somebody who who now is becoming
- 4:56Speaker 3: friends with these housewives, and because that his judgment is
- 5:03Speaker 3: super biased because he's friends with them. And as you
- 5:06Speaker 3: all know, I'm friends with a lot of housewives, you know,
- 5:09Speaker 3: even the ones I work with. However, dot Org, I'm
- 5:13Speaker 3: very honest when it comes to what I see on
- 5:15Speaker 3: the show. You know, I'm here to talk about their
- 5:19Speaker 3: storyline based on what they're giving on the show, not
- 5:22Speaker 3: who I know them as human beings. And I would
- 5:24Speaker 3: never go dirty to talk about them based on who
- 5:28Speaker 3: I know their character to be.
- 5:30Speaker 2: That ain't me. That ain't me. So what I.
- 5:35Speaker 3: Choose to focus on are these people's storylines, Okay, And
- 5:42Speaker 3: based on Lisa RNA's storyline, you were never are never
- 5:48Speaker 3: going to be the Lebron James of Housewives. Not as
- 5:52Speaker 3: long as Nimi Monique Johnson Leaks is grieving, Not when
- 5:59Speaker 3: Teresa dj is still around, Honey. I would even give
- 6:05Speaker 3: it to Bethany Franco before I would ever suggest orgree
- 6:13Speaker 3: that Lisa Renna, it's Lebron James of anything. You may
- 6:17Speaker 3: be the Lebron James of the household, honey, you may
- 6:20Speaker 3: be the Lebron James when it comes to endorsements back
- 6:23Speaker 3: in the day, day day, and you may be the
- 6:25Speaker 3: Lebron James of Days of our lives as Billy, but no, Shay,
- 6:29Speaker 3: I Lean Davidson.
- 6:30Speaker 2: See Lisa, I girl, see look.
- 6:33Speaker 3: I tried to at least give you the benefit of
- 6:35Speaker 3: the doubt, saying that maybe you were the Lebron James
- 6:38Speaker 3: of soaps. However, dot org your girl, I Lean Davidson
- 6:44Speaker 3: is the Lebron James when it comes to soaps. So again,
- 6:49Speaker 3: not sure why you felt the need to say that,
- 6:52Speaker 3: But then after you said that, you also made a
- 6:55Speaker 3: comment that they can't.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Afford to lose you.
- 6:59Speaker 3: And then it got me thinking what is happening behind
- 7:04Speaker 3: the scenes to where Lisa Renna would type that on
- 7:10Speaker 3: her insta story that they can't afford.
- 7:15Speaker 2: To lose her.
- 7:17Speaker 3: One thing we know about Lisa Renna, she loves a
- 7:20Speaker 3: paycheck and she loves having jobs. Okay, Lisa, we all
- 7:28Speaker 3: know you are never leaving the show.
- 7:32Speaker 2: You're not going to quit. You're not going to leave.
- 7:35Speaker 2: We know that.
- 7:36Speaker 3: So I don't know who you think you're fooling, but
- 7:40Speaker 3: you ain't fooling me or the rain drops.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Like we all know, Baby, you love being on the show.
- 7:46Speaker 3: I would even go as far as to say you
- 7:48Speaker 3: need the show. And there's nothing wrong with saying that
- 7:51Speaker 3: that you need the show.
- 7:54Speaker 2: You know, you were a.
- 7:56Speaker 3: Soap opera actress, and like most soap opera actress, there's
- 8:00Speaker 3: highs and lows when it comes to your position on
- 8:04Speaker 3: the soap. And your career was definitely resurrected because of
- 8:09Speaker 3: Beverly Hills Housewives and now you are truly a household name,
- 8:13Speaker 3: and at one point in time you were definitely I'm
- 8:18Speaker 3: not gonna say the force multiplier because that's a heavy
- 8:23Speaker 3: crown to wear. Let's say, instead of the force multiplier,
- 8:29Speaker 3: I would give you the force divider, because child I Hodey,
- 8:40Speaker 3: it ain't multiplying. The math ain't math in so let's
- 8:43Speaker 3: just call you the force divider, because you know how
- 8:46Speaker 3: to divide. You know a storyline and scenes, and look,
- 8:49Speaker 3: I enjoyed you for a long part of your position
- 8:52Speaker 3: on the show. But to play this game of they
- 8:58Speaker 3: can't afford to.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Lose you, you.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Maybe should have done that three seasons ago to where
- 9:03Speaker 3: I would have been on your side.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Saying, yeah, y'all, y'all can't afford to lose her.
- 9:08Speaker 3: Based on what we've been seeing thus far, it makes
- 9:12Speaker 3: me think if you're worried that your job is on
- 9:15Speaker 3: the line now. Based on what we've been reading about
- 9:20Speaker 3: what happened at the Real Housewives of Bibley Hills reunion,
- 9:26Speaker 3: a lot of people have said, people who were there
- 9:28Speaker 3: that it was very stressful. Erica Jane gave it a nine,
- 9:34Speaker 3: you know, based on a scale from one to ten
- 9:36Speaker 3: on how dramatic it was.
- 9:37Speaker 2: She said a nine and one.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Thing about Erica Jane like she doesn't owe a hype anything,
- 9:42Speaker 3: like she keeps.
- 9:43Speaker 2: It all the way real.
- 9:45Speaker 3: So I don't know if what happened was you were
- 9:48Speaker 3: in the hot seat and allegedly the word on the
- 9:53Speaker 3: curb is you ladies weren't allowed to see the last
- 9:56Speaker 3: two episodes. Allegedly they're saying Kathy Hilton has something to
- 10:01Speaker 3: do with that, or should I say Kathy Hilton's attorneys
- 10:04Speaker 3: allegedly so. Is that's why you're worried, Lisaena? Is Kathy
- 10:12Speaker 3: Hilton doing something li Serena that makes you think you
- 10:16Speaker 3: may be on the chopping block? I guess as we
- 10:19Speaker 3: see the rest of this season, it could be very
- 10:24Speaker 3: plausible that something is brewing in the nine to two
- 10:29Speaker 3: one zero that truly could make your position on the
- 10:35Speaker 3: show up in the air. And although Lisa people love
- 10:40Speaker 3: to throw you shay and read you, I Carlos King,
- 10:44Speaker 3: will stand on the fact that I think, at one
- 10:47Speaker 3: point in time you are really a great housewife and
- 10:51Speaker 3: maybe you need to be put on palls so that
- 10:55Speaker 3: you're able to get back to the fun, loving, messy
- 11:01Speaker 3: force divider that you were.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Maybe it could do you some good. I don't know.
- 11:06Speaker 3: And one thing about me, I want everybody to be
- 11:09Speaker 3: able to be happy and to win in the end.
- 11:12Speaker 3: But something has happened Lisareena to where the past couple
- 11:15Speaker 3: of seasons.
- 11:17Speaker 2: You haven't been enjoyable.
- 11:19Speaker 3: And I don't know what happened to where you felt
- 11:24Speaker 3: the need to just not be the person that the
- 11:30Speaker 3: audience loved to hate. So my question for my rain
- 11:36Speaker 3: drops is this, can the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
- 11:42Speaker 3: afford to lose Lisarenna? Is it time for Lisrenna to go?
- 11:49Speaker 3: And last but not Les? Do you guys think Lisarenna
- 11:55Speaker 3: is the lebron James of Housewives? Tweak me hashtagging Reality
- 12:03Speaker 3: with the King and let me know, stay tuned. We'll
- 12:08Speaker 3: get into my conversation with Akesha Holly Cologne right after
- 12:12Speaker 3: these quick ads. This is Reality with the King and
- 12:21Speaker 3: I'm Carlos King. Let's get into my conversation with Aikesha. So,
- 12:27Speaker 3: in celebration of tonight's season finale of Bell Collective, I
- 12:32Speaker 3: have one of the most talked about stars on the show. Yes,
- 12:37Speaker 3: Aikesha Holly Cologne. On today's episode, we get into how
- 12:42Speaker 3: she was almost cast to be a Real Housewife of
- 12:46Speaker 3: New Jersey.
- 12:48Speaker 2: Okay, can you see that?
- 12:49Speaker 3: Yes, but how she chose to get on Bell Collective
- 12:54Speaker 3: not only to be a part of the Upper win
- 12:57Speaker 3: Prey network, but to also work with me.
- 13:01Speaker 2: I love that, but you guys know Akesha, so of.
- 13:04Speaker 3: Course we ended up having a good old shady messy conversation.
- 13:09Speaker 2: That is going to gag you the way. It even
- 13:14Speaker 2: gagged me. It gagged me so much I had to.
- 13:17Speaker 3: End the interview early, ah, because I had nothing to
- 13:22Speaker 3: say after that. So without further ado, get into my
- 13:26Speaker 3: conversation with Aikesha, Holly Cologne, Oh rain drops, I have
- 13:34Speaker 3: a doozy today. So first of all, before we get started,
- 13:37Speaker 3: I gotta thank you guys for watching and live tweeting
- 13:40Speaker 3: and being in love with Bell Collective as much as
- 13:44Speaker 3: I am. You know, I've been producing reality TV for
- 13:47Speaker 3: fifteen years and this cast of Bell Collective is one
- 13:51Speaker 3: of the best in the business.
- 13:53Speaker 2: And I love and adore them.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Today I'm talking to the newest cast member who who
- 14:00Speaker 3: came on the scene, honey, and she says shit off
- 14:04Speaker 3: like Biblica fox, honey and set it off girl.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Of course, I'm.
- 14:08Speaker 3: Talking about the alleged Queen of JACKSONID come on, shame
- 14:14Speaker 3: Ai Keisha, Holly Cologne.
- 14:17Speaker 1: I lock myself, honey, allgen, you better check your facts.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Ai Keisha, Who's the Queen of Jackson?
- 14:28Speaker 1: Listen, I hear people out here claiming I don't want
- 14:31Speaker 1: to be the Queen of Jackson. I'm not from Jackson. Honey,
- 14:34Speaker 1: didn't nobody know you weren't from Jackson because you never
- 14:36Speaker 1: said you weren't from Jackson until I named that, Peela
- 14:39Speaker 1: Hatchie Posse. So I'm not only the queen of Jackson,
- 14:43Speaker 1: I'm the queen of Mississippi. I'm the queen of my castle.
- 14:48Speaker 1: I am the queen. I'm just a queen.
- 14:51Speaker 3: I love you so much and your confidence. So before
- 14:56Speaker 3: we get into this current season of Bell Collective, in
- 14:58Speaker 3: addition to the and You we tape recently, I want
- 15:02Speaker 3: to talk to you, Aikeisha, just about you, because again,
- 15:07Speaker 3: you came on the show like a force, and one
- 15:11Speaker 3: thing I enjoy about watching you on and off camera
- 15:16Speaker 3: is you are yourself twenty four seven. So talk to
- 15:19Speaker 3: me about who you are as a woman who grew
- 15:23Speaker 3: up in Jackson, Mississippi. Where did this confidence that you
- 15:26Speaker 3: have come from?
- 15:28Speaker 1: The confidence comes from home, and it comes from my mother,
- 15:32Speaker 1: my biological mother, my adopted mom, which is biologically my aunt,
- 15:36Speaker 1: my grandmother, my aunt, my sisters. I just come from
- 15:41Speaker 1: a lineage of strong black women who've all had different
- 15:46Speaker 1: struggles and triumphs and victories, but they all poured into me.
- 15:52Speaker 1: So I will say I have been this way my
- 15:55Speaker 1: entire life. I've always been a leader. Hill I was
- 15:57Speaker 1: lying leader in kindergarten, Honey, I mean, I've always be
- 16:00Speaker 1: at the front of the line. But there was a
- 16:02Speaker 1: point in my life where that confidence kind of wavered.
- 16:06Speaker 1: And it was the transition between leaving my biological mom
- 16:11Speaker 1: and my sisters to go live with my aunt and
- 16:14Speaker 1: my grandparents. And that was only because of allowing outside
- 16:19Speaker 1: people to sort of tell me what they thought I
- 16:22Speaker 1: was or how I was acting and how I was changing.
- 16:24Speaker 1: And I realized at an early age, no, I'm not changing.
- 16:27Speaker 1: You changed. So I'll give you an example. When I
- 16:31Speaker 1: lived with my mom, we went from Verdon Edition and Jackson.
- 16:33Speaker 1: People who are familiar with Jackson, they know where that is.
- 16:36Speaker 1: And we moved to Forest Park Apartments, which is now
- 16:39Speaker 1: you know, the projects, and it may have been the
- 16:41Speaker 1: projects then, but hell, I didn't know. We thought it
- 16:43Speaker 1: was the best. It was a great place to us.
- 16:46Speaker 1: And like I said, even in the projects, my sisters
- 16:48Speaker 1: and I we thought we were as bad as there.
- 16:50Speaker 1: You know. And I'm the youngest of five girls, so
- 16:53Speaker 1: you have to my oldest sister. There's a seventeen year
- 16:55Speaker 1: difference my oldest sister's sixty two, So coming up and
- 16:59Speaker 1: just watching them and how they moved just they were
- 17:02Speaker 1: the baddest bitches in Jackson to me and my mom.
- 17:07Speaker 1: You know, my mother, even just watching her maneuver and
- 17:10Speaker 1: how she did her thing, she still was what you
- 17:14Speaker 1: would consider a bad bitch for the time. But saying
- 17:17Speaker 1: not to say so when I lived there and when
- 17:19Speaker 1: my grandparents and my aunt found out about me. My
- 17:22Speaker 1: father's family because at the time when I came along,
- 17:25Speaker 1: my father was married and he had a wife and
- 17:28Speaker 1: a family, and he and my mother, that's why I
- 17:30Speaker 1: say on the show, they had a situationship and I
- 17:33Speaker 1: came along, his family didn't know anything about me. They
- 17:36Speaker 1: found out about me when I was about seven years old.
- 17:38Speaker 1: My grandfather said that he had heard rumors before but
- 17:42Speaker 1: it was never confirmed. So when they it was confirmed
- 17:45Speaker 1: and they knew that my father had a child. I
- 17:47Speaker 1: was in between the ages of seven and eight and
- 17:49Speaker 1: I met them. They were very accepting of me. They
- 17:53Speaker 1: wanted me a part of their lives, which is why
- 17:55Speaker 1: I went from Akeisha Smith to Akisha Holly because my
- 17:58Speaker 1: grandfather said, she is a Holly and she will carry
- 18:02Speaker 1: our name no matter if his son made a mistake,
- 18:06Speaker 1: if his son admitted it or not, which he did.
- 18:08Speaker 1: But that's how my grandfather was. It did not matter
- 18:11Speaker 1: to him. When he walked in the door the day
- 18:13Speaker 1: that my father brought me over to meet his parents
- 18:16Speaker 1: and his sister, my grandfather cried and when he looked
- 18:20Speaker 1: at me, his first words were, she is a holly.
- 18:23Speaker 1: This was before our blood tests any DNA. I had
- 18:26Speaker 1: not done any of that. So I began to go
- 18:29Speaker 1: over to their house. I started spending time with them.
- 18:32Speaker 1: So I went from a house where I was one
- 18:34Speaker 1: of six till I was an only child. So I
- 18:36Speaker 1: have a truly fish out of water story. I loved
- 18:40Speaker 1: being with my sisters in at home. Honey, that was
- 18:41Speaker 1: a good time. Baby, My mama and my sisters are
- 18:44Speaker 1: a good time. But when I went to my grandparents
- 18:46Speaker 1: and my aunt, we were watching the news, I was
- 18:48Speaker 1: reading books I had to. It was very conservative and quiet. So,
- 18:53Speaker 1: going back to what I was saying when I said,
- 18:55Speaker 1: the confidence wavered a little when I started staying with
- 18:57Speaker 1: my grandparents. I didn't switch schools immediately because I had
- 19:01Speaker 1: to test to go into a Catholic school in Jackson.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Because I was coming from a poor neighborhood, a very
- 19:08Speaker 1: poor school, and I guess these folks wanted to see
- 19:11Speaker 1: if I was going to be up to their standard
- 19:13Speaker 1: of coming into their school. So I stayed at the
- 19:16Speaker 1: elementary for the first year that I was living with them,
- 19:19Speaker 1: and my friends started making fun of me, and you know,
- 19:24Speaker 1: I wasn't understanding because the thing was is that I
- 19:27Speaker 1: went from my household where we didn't have a car.
- 19:29Speaker 1: My sister had a car and she would come over
- 19:31Speaker 1: and pick us up and we would do stuff all
- 19:32Speaker 1: the time. But I went from that household to my
- 19:34Speaker 1: grandparents and my aunt's house and we had four cars,
- 19:37Speaker 1: but they were all Mercedes. I didn't know what a
- 19:39Speaker 1: Mercedes was Carlos, to be honest with you, I just
- 19:43Speaker 1: knew that it was a car. So when I got
- 19:45Speaker 1: to school, the kids were like, oh, she thinks she
- 19:48Speaker 1: all that. Now, she alled that in a bag of
- 19:50Speaker 1: chips because she come to school in a Mercedes. And
- 19:53Speaker 1: I didn't get it. And I went from being really
- 19:56Speaker 1: really popular to it's like, oh, well, you know, I
- 20:00Speaker 1: don't really like her anymore because she thinks she's this,
- 20:01Speaker 1: this and that. So that's the little period where that
- 20:05Speaker 1: confidence kind of wavered because then I wanted to fit
- 20:08Speaker 1: in and I'm like, oh no, So I did not
- 20:10Speaker 1: want my grandparents and my aunt to drop me off
- 20:12Speaker 1: at school. I asked my dad to drop me off
- 20:15Speaker 1: at school because see, my dad had a modest car.
- 20:17Speaker 1: My dad, honey, he can make a dollar out a penny.
- 20:20Speaker 1: That's how he holds onto his coin. So his car
- 20:24Speaker 1: wasn't as fancy as there. So I wanted my father
- 20:26Speaker 1: to drop me off at school because I didn't want
- 20:28Speaker 1: them to make fun of me. And I remember telling
- 20:30Speaker 1: the story to my sister, one of my sisters who
- 20:33Speaker 1: is passed now, and I was telling her how I
- 20:36Speaker 1: didn't want to go to school and I didn't want
- 20:37Speaker 1: them dropping me off in the Mercedes, and my sister
- 20:40Speaker 1: said what she said, fuck them. I wish i'n Sandy
- 20:45Speaker 1: FRANI could drop me off at a Mercedes, because at
- 20:47Speaker 1: the time, she was like going on, she was just like,
- 20:50Speaker 1: if they don't want to be your friends because you
- 20:52Speaker 1: have this, then fucked them. Like it was just as
- 20:55Speaker 1: plain as that. And I ended up leaving the school
- 20:58Speaker 1: that year, going to the new school where my little
- 21:01Speaker 1: four Mercedes. Honey, they were getting dropped off and way
- 21:04Speaker 1: beyond what I was doing.
- 21:05Speaker 3: And the beauty of it. This is still Jackson, Mississippi.
- 21:07Speaker 3: Because one of the reasons why I wanted to do
- 21:10Speaker 3: this show in Jackson is because I wanted to dispel
- 21:13Speaker 3: this notion that Jackson, Mississippi, is nothing but a bunch
- 21:18Speaker 3: of poor heillbillies who can't talk. They are rubbing two
- 21:23Speaker 3: pennies to make it every week and not understanding. I
- 21:27Speaker 3: Keisha that Jackson is filled with wealth and legacy.
- 21:31Speaker 2: So talk to me about that too.
- 21:32Speaker 1: No, that's the thing. When I moved with my grandparents
- 21:36Speaker 1: and my aunt, yeah, we had four Mercedes. My neighbor
- 21:39Speaker 1: next door they had four or five Mercedes, and my
- 21:42Speaker 1: neighbor on the other side of us they had Mercedes
- 21:44Speaker 1: and BMW's, So you gotta like, I didn't even know
- 21:48Speaker 1: what a Mercedes was. But when I got to this
- 21:49Speaker 1: new school and I was looking at the money and
- 21:52Speaker 1: the wealth, and this is when I realized the difference
- 21:54Speaker 1: in education. I'm in sixth grade. I come from Mary
- 21:58Speaker 1: Marrison Elementary. Like I said in vern edition, we were
- 22:00Speaker 1: getting our books handed down to us. I don't know
- 22:03Speaker 1: if you remember when you used to get your school
- 22:04Speaker 1: books there was a card in the back, and you
- 22:06Speaker 1: said you would write your name on the card in
- 22:08Speaker 1: the year that you had the book. That was something
- 22:09Speaker 1: that you know in Mississipi. I remember that. So when
- 22:19Speaker 1: I got to my new school, you know, we got
- 22:21Speaker 1: our books, and I mean this book was like it
- 22:24Speaker 1: had never been open. You could hear it. And I
- 22:26Speaker 1: was just like, oh wow, I got the I'm the
- 22:28Speaker 1: first one to get this book. And I turned to
- 22:31Speaker 1: one of my classmates and I said, hey, I said,
- 22:34Speaker 1: where do we write our names? I don't see the
- 22:36Speaker 1: card in here? And she was like what And I said,
- 22:38Speaker 1: where do you write your names in the book? She
- 22:40Speaker 1: was like, write it wherever you want to. And I
- 22:42Speaker 1: was thinking, like, huh, She's like, it's your book. We
- 22:45Speaker 1: got new books every year. That's what they had. They
- 22:48Speaker 1: were getting new books. I wasn't used to that. And
- 22:51Speaker 1: it was at that point I'm like that was the
- 22:53Speaker 1: difference in education because you're giving us the hand me downs.
- 22:56Speaker 1: These old books that we were pages were torn out
- 22:58Speaker 1: of them, things were missing from them. With the cards
- 23:01Speaker 1: would be so long that we were writing in the bottom,
- 23:03Speaker 1: turning it over and writing all the way down to
- 23:05Speaker 1: the bottom. At Marson and here I am at Saint
- 23:07Speaker 1: Richard's and we're getting brand new books. Well, of course
- 23:09Speaker 1: we were paying for that, because I was paying for tuition.
- 23:12Speaker 1: But I was able to see all of this at
- 23:15Speaker 1: a very early age. And this was at nine, ten
- 23:18Speaker 1: and eleven years old. So I remember going to a
- 23:21Speaker 1: friend's birthday party. We were on a yacht on the reservoir.
- 23:25Speaker 1: It was this thirteenth birthday party. And mind you, where
- 23:29Speaker 1: I was coming from. Hell, I don't even know if
- 23:30Speaker 1: anybody had ever been on a boat or I mean,
- 23:33Speaker 1: you know, like it was just it blew my mind.
- 23:37Speaker 1: It blew my mind. There is a lot of money
- 23:41Speaker 1: in Mississippi. I mean, do you see what's going on
- 23:44Speaker 1: right now with Brett Favre and the governor and what's
- 23:47Speaker 1: happening with this waterer crisis. Yeah, okay, there's a lot
- 23:50Speaker 1: of money in Mississippi. It's just not a lot of
- 23:52Speaker 1: us who have it.
- 23:52Speaker 2: And there you go.
- 23:53Speaker 3: So when people ask me, why did you choose Jackson,
- 23:57Speaker 3: Mississippi to create y'all collective, it's because, listen, my purpose
- 24:03Speaker 3: on this earth is to give other people opportunities, especially
- 24:07Speaker 3: opportunities to people.
- 24:08Speaker 2: Who look like me.
- 24:10Speaker 3: You know, people of color, regardless of your status at
- 24:14Speaker 3: the bank. All those things I want to show and
- 24:17Speaker 3: inspire the world. And when I saw that Jackson, Mississippi
- 24:21Speaker 3: has so much richness into it, whether that's figuratively or literally,
- 24:25Speaker 3: it propelled me to want to do Bell Collective. So
- 24:29Speaker 3: we have season one and season one was fine. You know, listen,
- 24:32Speaker 3: it was a great season. Season two started. You came
- 24:36Speaker 3: in along with Slogucci and, like I said earlier, set
- 24:40Speaker 3: shit ablaze.
- 24:42Speaker 2: What made you want to join Bell Collective?
- 24:45Speaker 3: But before you answer that, you were almost cast as
- 24:51Speaker 3: a real housewife of New Jersey?
- 24:53Speaker 2: Is that correct? Yes?
- 24:54Speaker 1: I was in that process. I was in the interview
- 24:56Speaker 1: on process.
- 24:56Speaker 2: How did that come about?
- 24:58Speaker 1: So of friend of mine sent me this some information
- 25:03Speaker 1: saying that they were looking for women in New Jersey
- 25:07Speaker 1: who were I hate that boss women. Shit. I hate
- 25:09Speaker 1: when we even said it on our show, but like
- 25:11Speaker 1: I do, it's so dumb, but that were doing well,
- 25:15Speaker 1: who were managing their households, they had businesses, they had
- 25:19Speaker 1: you know, careers, moms just I guess boss women. And
- 25:23Speaker 1: so she said, hey, what do you know, I think
- 25:25Speaker 1: maybe you should do this, and it did hit me.
- 25:27Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is a New Jersey, because
- 25:29Speaker 1: I know I do go back and forth between Jersey
- 25:31Speaker 1: and Mississippi because people don't believe. But my husband and
- 25:36Speaker 1: I were beginning to work on some things that we
- 25:38Speaker 1: were doing down in Mississippi. So I said, okay, well
- 25:41Speaker 1: i'll hit them, you know, I hit it up to see.
- 25:42Speaker 1: She was like, oh, well, I already sent your information in,
- 25:44Speaker 1: so we'll see if somebody hit you know, if they
- 25:47Speaker 1: say anything back. Literally, I don't even know if it
- 25:50Speaker 1: was an hour or two. I ended up getting the
- 25:52Speaker 1: email from a lady out of California, and so we
- 25:55Speaker 1: were talking, just had an amazing conversation talking about things
- 25:58Speaker 1: that were going on a Jersey. I was telling her
- 25:59Speaker 1: about about me going up in Mississippi, our bar, everything
- 26:02Speaker 1: we had happening, and I was I had a baby
- 26:06Speaker 1: and I was pregnant with my daughter, and she said, well,
- 26:09Speaker 1: you know what I would like to send your information to.
- 26:14Speaker 1: I forgot who it was, but do you know what
- 26:17Speaker 1: this is? Do you know what the show is? And
- 26:19Speaker 1: I said no, I don't and she said it's Real
- 26:23Speaker 1: Housewives of New Jersey. And of course I wasn't thinking
- 26:25Speaker 1: Real Housewives of New Jersey because shit, I'm black. I
- 26:28Speaker 1: didn't even know. I had never seen a black housewife.
- 26:33Speaker 1: My girlfriend was the first one on the Housewives of
- 26:36Speaker 1: New York and.
- 26:38Speaker 3: Williams abny K Williams my brain jobs love her. She
- 26:42Speaker 3: was a guest on the show too, So abidy K
- 26:44Speaker 3: Williams and Ikeisha are longtime girlfriends.
- 26:47Speaker 1: Yeah, so I immediately ended up. I hit her because
- 26:52Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, okay, so I see what
- 26:54Speaker 1: they're doing now. They're trying to get a little speck
- 26:56Speaker 1: of color up and everywhere. And so I reached out
- 26:59Speaker 1: to her and I told her. She was just like yeah,
- 27:01Speaker 1: she was telling me, you know, things she'd gone through, whatever, whatever,
- 27:04Speaker 1: and so I was like, all right, cool. So at
- 27:06Speaker 1: the same time I'm going through this process, I had
- 27:10Speaker 1: reached out to Tamra when I think it was around
- 27:15Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty or maybe the top of
- 27:18Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, when Bell Collective was coming along or something,
- 27:22Speaker 1: whenever the show came out.
- 27:23Speaker 3: When I saw the January of twenty twenty one, yeap, yeah.
- 27:27Speaker 1: I saw this young lady on here standing on Fair
- 27:31Speaker 1: Street saying, you know something about buying the block back.
- 27:35Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well, not that block because that
- 27:38Speaker 1: one right there, I own that building and then you know,
- 27:43Speaker 1: I mean, the city didn't even own the block. So
- 27:45Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, but and I will say this,
- 27:48Speaker 1: I loved that she was bringing attention to Fair Street.
- 27:52Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, this is amazing because
- 27:55Speaker 1: I mean, owns an amazing network, you're a great production company,
- 27:58Speaker 1: and bringing that kind of a to Jackson along with
- 28:01Speaker 1: my business that I'm bringing to Jackson, it's a win
- 28:04Speaker 1: win for me. So I hit Tamra and I hit
- 28:07Speaker 1: my girlfriend Melanie, who also makes an appearance on our show,
- 28:10Speaker 1: and I said, Hey, I want you guys to introduce
- 28:12Speaker 1: me to the young lady who is saying that she
- 28:14Speaker 1: was going to do something on theirs. I want to see,
- 28:16Speaker 1: you know, what she has going on with you know,
- 28:18Speaker 1: our ideas are what she's going to be doing. I
- 28:19Speaker 1: would love to connect with her. They connected me with Letitia.
- 28:23Speaker 1: I ended up talking to Latitia. It was around the
- 28:26Speaker 1: same time that the New Jersey stuff was going on,
- 28:29Speaker 1: so it had to be like spring summer of twenty
- 28:31Speaker 1: twenty one, and so when she and I talked, I
- 28:34Speaker 1: thought she had an amazing just energy. I love the
- 28:37Speaker 1: way she talked. She has a lot of passion, so
- 28:39Speaker 1: we clicked. We were talking about the show, talking about,
- 28:42Speaker 1: you know, the things that I had seen. She always
- 28:44Speaker 1: tells people, you know she was pouring into me. Well,
- 28:46Speaker 1: I was because I'm watching the show as a viewer,
- 28:49Speaker 1: not a person that was a part of television, so
- 28:51Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. I was like, hey, you know,
- 28:53Speaker 1: I had seen pictures and scene, had been invited to
- 28:56Speaker 1: your brunches before. Don't let anybody come in your brunch
- 28:59Speaker 1: and do like how they you know what's arguing and
- 29:02Speaker 1: doing all of this stuff at your price. You don't
- 29:03Speaker 1: need to do that because this is your brand. I mean,
- 29:06Speaker 1: we're having a great conversation. After the conversation was over,
- 29:09Speaker 1: Letisha said, listen, I'm not sure what we're gonna be
- 29:12Speaker 1: doing with the show, but if we come back, I
- 29:13Speaker 1: would love for you to do a scene with me.
- 29:16Speaker 1: Because we weren't able to get into any of the
- 29:18Speaker 1: buildings on Fair Street. I would love for us to
- 29:20Speaker 1: be able to get in and actually see a building
- 29:22Speaker 1: on Fair Street. Of course, I'm gonna let you do that.
- 29:26Speaker 2: What does that for me?
- 29:27Speaker 1: Again? That is a win. That's allowing you to see
- 29:30Speaker 1: my grandfather's museum, my family lineage. We have a lot
- 29:33Speaker 1: of things in that building that would give exposure to it,
- 29:36Speaker 1: and is going to give exposure to what I'm about
- 29:38Speaker 1: to do on Fair Street. I said, of course. She
- 29:41Speaker 1: hangs up. She tells me that she called whoever. I
- 29:44Speaker 1: don't know if she called you, she called somebody, and
- 29:46Speaker 1: then she calls me back. She said, they already know
- 29:49Speaker 1: who you are, and I said, I said okay, and
- 29:53Speaker 1: she said, they want to meet. They want to talk
- 29:55Speaker 1: to you. So that was that.
- 29:57Speaker 3: And in terms of knowing who you are, I was
- 30:00Speaker 3: already introduced to you via Instagram, in terms of seeing
- 30:05Speaker 3: you on Instagram because of our mutual friend Satchel Jester,
- 30:09Speaker 3: who is from Atlanta and he does a lot of
- 30:11Speaker 3: great things in publicity marketing and he's just all around
- 30:14Speaker 3: great human being. So when Bill Collector came out, he said, oh, baby,
- 30:21Speaker 3: you need to get Aikeisha on the show. And one
- 30:23Speaker 3: thing about my friends in the industry, they know when
- 30:26Speaker 3: it comes to my production, I take it very seriously,
- 30:29Speaker 3: like I strongly believe in greatness.
- 30:32Speaker 2: And I said, who is she?
- 30:34Speaker 3: He's sending me your Instagram and I'm like, first of all,
- 30:36Speaker 3: she's gorgeous, her husband is super handsome, beautiful kids. I
- 30:41Speaker 3: see wealth, honey. I saw all of that at that
- 30:45Speaker 3: Instagram Paigety and I said, where does she live in Jackson?
- 30:49Speaker 3: And he said, oh, honey, she could be in Jackson
- 30:51Speaker 3: anytime you want her to. I said, well, if we
- 30:55Speaker 3: get a second season, I will let you know Satchel.
- 30:59Speaker 2: So yes, I was familiar.
- 31:01Speaker 1: So that transpired. And then when I ended up talking
- 31:06Speaker 1: to your people and production and I was like, oh,
- 31:08Speaker 1: wait a minute, they want me to be on the
- 31:10Speaker 1: show as a cast member, not as me coming in
- 31:12Speaker 1: to do a scene with somebody. So at the time,
- 31:15Speaker 1: I was pregnant, and I begin to weigh the options.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Now I had not been confirmed on Housewives of New
- 31:21Speaker 1: Jersey that was in talks. I was still, you know,
- 31:23Speaker 1: we were waiting and going back and forth. But I
- 31:25Speaker 1: sat and I talked to Willie about it, and I
- 31:27Speaker 1: just really had to do some deep thought and even prayer,
- 31:30Speaker 1: because I pray over everything before I get ready to
- 31:32Speaker 1: do something. And so I thought about it and I said,
- 31:36Speaker 1: I know what the goal is and for me, my
- 31:39Speaker 1: family has wanted to do something on Fairish and bring
- 31:43Speaker 1: Faiish back to what it was for a long time.
- 31:45Speaker 1: What better place than the Oprah Winfrey Network, who's from Mississippi,
- 31:51Speaker 1: a production company like Kingdom Reign. I've followed you, I've
- 31:55Speaker 1: watched your come up, I've admired you, and it's like, God,
- 32:00Speaker 1: come on now, because on this other platform, it could
- 32:04Speaker 1: be possibly bigger, it could be more money, but they
- 32:08Speaker 1: are not going to feature and show my story and
- 32:12Speaker 1: the history of this place the way it needs to
- 32:15Speaker 1: be shown. And I had to do that for myself
- 32:18Speaker 1: and my ancestors. And I knew that your platform and
- 32:22Speaker 1: own was going to do that in a respectful way
- 32:26Speaker 1: that my grandmother, my grandfather, my great uncle, great aunt
- 32:30Speaker 1: and great grandmother who started all of this in eighteen
- 32:34Speaker 1: ninety six, we're gonna say, Akeisha, job, well done. So
- 32:39Speaker 1: that's how I didn't even think about the other platform anymore.
- 32:43Speaker 1: I moved forward. I put all of my energy. I
- 32:47Speaker 1: convinced my husband, you know, he's coming down Tossissippi, he's
- 32:50Speaker 1: doing whatever, but to be on television with it. He's like, Okay,
- 32:53Speaker 1: if this is what you want to do, babe, then
- 32:54Speaker 1: I'll come on. And I told him that I think
- 32:58Speaker 1: this is it. This is it.
- 32:59Speaker 2: No listen.
- 33:00Speaker 3: I'm getting goosebumps right now because what people don't understand
- 33:05Speaker 3: is this it's purpose, yes, and it's not being thirsty.
- 33:10Speaker 3: Because I am the owner of a production company that
- 33:14Speaker 3: produces reality television, I cannot tell you how many famous
- 33:18Speaker 3: and non famous people hit me up in the DMS
- 33:22Speaker 3: or on the streets. They email me girl, they send
- 33:25Speaker 3: me mail like timer mail, okay, begging me.
- 33:28Speaker 2: To either remove them from their current show.
- 33:31Speaker 3: These are the people who's on reality or to put
- 33:34Speaker 3: them on one of my shows because of what you said.
- 33:37Speaker 3: They said, Carlos, one thing about you, You're gonna make
- 33:41Speaker 3: sure that your cast member's business is at the forefront
- 33:44Speaker 3: of any messy conversation or argument or whatever they gonna have.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 33:47Speaker 3: I'm down for the shade. But one thing you do
- 33:50Speaker 3: so well is you make sure the business is at
- 33:53Speaker 3: the forefront. And because you could have been, like you
- 33:56Speaker 3: said earlier, on a much bigger network, on a much
- 34:00Speaker 3: bigger show. What people don't understand is God is the
- 34:03Speaker 3: biggest equation you bet, every single aspect of life. Yes,
- 34:07Speaker 3: And what bothers me, and I'm gonna be very real,
- 34:10Speaker 3: what bothers me is people who try to chase something
- 34:17Speaker 3: that looks big on the outside.
- 34:20Speaker 2: And it's not about attaching.
- 34:21Speaker 3: Yourself to a situation because the optics look bit. It's
- 34:25Speaker 3: about attaching yourself to a situation because you know that
- 34:28Speaker 3: God is bigger than any situation.
- 34:31Speaker 2: And if you follow the path where.
- 34:34Speaker 3: In twenty years you can say, you know what, I've
- 34:36Speaker 3: accomplished everything I wanted to do by making this decision,
- 34:41Speaker 3: He is going to uplift you and take you on
- 34:44Speaker 3: a journey that's going to blow your mind. And that's
- 34:48Speaker 3: exactly what you are doing Aikeisha on this show.
- 34:51Speaker 2: This season.
- 34:52Speaker 1: You hit it on the head and that's why you know,
- 34:54Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring a little shade up in here, even
- 34:56Speaker 1: though we're talking about the Lord. No, because when people
- 35:01Speaker 1: say I gave you a seat at the table, I laugh.
- 35:06Speaker 2: You really did.
- 35:08Speaker 1: Every a time I hear, baby, you didn't give me
- 35:12Speaker 1: a thing. Now, I am appreciative. I do not want
- 35:16Speaker 1: anybody to get me wrong or say, oh, she you know, listen,
- 35:21Speaker 1: she brought this production to you, She brought the idea
- 35:25Speaker 1: to you, and I am grateful for that. But at
- 35:28Speaker 1: the same time, I believe what God has and had
- 35:33Speaker 1: for me. If it wouldn't have been through bail Collect
- 35:36Speaker 1: if your path and mind would have met somewhere, if
- 35:39Speaker 1: it was for me to work with Carlos King or
- 35:41Speaker 1: for me to work with own. So I am grateful.
- 35:45Speaker 1: I thank you for the introduction. But honey, that table
- 35:49Speaker 1: that you said, I'm gonna leave that right there because
- 35:52Speaker 1: you don't need to be invite girl. We're gonna leave
- 35:54Speaker 1: that right there. But thank you.
- 35:57Speaker 3: No, I want to say thank you because I'm know
- 36:00Speaker 3: if you know this, we interviewed over ten women to
- 36:04Speaker 3: join the show that's airing right now, and you are
- 36:08Speaker 3: the first tape I saw. And I said to Angela,
- 36:13Speaker 3: who's my VP of development and the casting producer Keia,
- 36:17Speaker 3: I said, oh, baby, I don't care who else follows this.
- 36:21Speaker 2: I know I want two bells.
- 36:23Speaker 3: She is going to be one, and I'm going to
- 36:25Speaker 3: be very surprised if anyone can top this casting tape.
- 36:29Speaker 3: What Aikesha's casting tape look like is evident in the scenes.
- 36:35Speaker 3: She's in this phenomenon that was gracing through the screen.
- 36:40Speaker 3: And as you're on this show this season, yes, you
- 36:43Speaker 3: are budding heads with Letitia Pearson, who also is involved
- 36:48Speaker 3: in Feri Street. Were you surprised that you two all
- 36:52Speaker 3: butt hit, because I'm getting the sense that you thought, like, Okay,
- 36:55Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I know that she
- 36:58Speaker 3: and I have the same goal and more than likely
- 37:01Speaker 3: we're going to be good.
- 37:03Speaker 1: That's exactly it. I'm familiar with reality TV enough and
- 37:06Speaker 1: I've been in this industry a while to know that
- 37:09Speaker 1: I'm gonna be bumping hands with somebody. Hell, I thought
- 37:11Speaker 1: it was gonna be Guccie, you know, because I just
- 37:13Speaker 1: couldn't get past the name, and you know, at the time,
- 37:17Speaker 1: and now, Guccie is my fave. I love her and
- 37:20Speaker 1: we talked daily. So I did not think that it
- 37:23Speaker 1: was going to be Letitia because she was the intro
- 37:26Speaker 1: to the show. And then when I realized that they
- 37:29Speaker 1: were using Tamor because I went to high school with
- 37:31Speaker 1: Tamra and I knew tamar from you know, from Jackson,
- 37:34Speaker 1: and so I just said, oh, okay. But I had
- 37:37Speaker 1: no clue that I would be going toe to toe
- 37:40Speaker 1: with Letitia. And when that scene at the brunch happened
- 37:45Speaker 1: and she snapped at me, I was thinking like, oh
- 37:48Speaker 1: wait a minute, them, hold on now, wait. I had
- 37:50Speaker 1: to really like get myself together because I was just like,
- 37:54Speaker 1: all right, so is this the direction we were going in?
- 37:56Speaker 1: But I'll say this, Carlos, I still was thinking, like,
- 38:00Speaker 1: all right, this is what you signed up for. We
- 38:02Speaker 1: can still go toe to toe and throw shade, but
- 38:04Speaker 1: we know what the goal is. We know we want
- 38:07Speaker 1: to do this project on Fairs Well, I know I
- 38:09Speaker 1: want to do the project on Fair Street. Let me
- 38:11Speaker 1: go back and let me clear this up right now
- 38:13Speaker 1: on your show, Letitia and I do not and have
- 38:17Speaker 1: not had a project on Fair Street together. What we
- 38:21Speaker 1: were coming together to do was talk about what she
- 38:24Speaker 1: wanted to do on Fairs Street and what I am
- 38:26Speaker 1: doing on Fair Street, what I have already done on
- 38:30Speaker 1: Fair Street. So when she says you're still in my ideas, girl,
- 38:35Speaker 1: I still have not even heard your idea. And that's
- 38:38Speaker 1: the truth. I don't know what Letitia wanted to do
- 38:42Speaker 1: on Fair Street. I just saw a scene from the
- 38:43Speaker 1: first episode when they told her how much it was
- 38:46Speaker 1: gonna be to get that building even up the code.
- 38:49Speaker 1: I hadn't heard Letitia say anything else about Fair Street
- 38:51Speaker 1: till I came along. Listen close. Now, one thing about
- 38:56Speaker 1: me you're gonna learn because you are not gonna be
- 38:58Speaker 1: working together long time.
- 39:00Speaker 2: You better say it.
- 39:01Speaker 1: I don't lie now, I don't lie. My truth has
- 39:03Speaker 1: got me in trouble a lot. I got my butt
- 39:05Speaker 1: whipped a whole bunch of times when I was young
- 39:07Speaker 1: because I couldn't lie. So let's get that straight. But
- 39:12Speaker 1: our projects, we don't have a project together. My project
- 39:16Speaker 1: was never her project. I don't even know what her
- 39:19Speaker 1: project was. And at this point I do not care.
- 39:22Speaker 1: And you guys have been watching the season, so you
- 39:25Speaker 1: know why I do not care.
- 39:26Speaker 3: Oh no, they definitely know, and they definitely have seen you.
- 39:32Speaker 3: Like you said, you are very upfront, and that was
- 39:35Speaker 3: one of the reasons why we enjoyed you. Because one
- 39:38Speaker 3: thing about some, not all, some of the women in
- 39:42Speaker 3: Jack's Mississippi. A lot of them are Southern belles. And
- 39:47Speaker 3: what I mean by that is they aren't upfront. It's
- 39:51Speaker 3: like this southern shade to where it's very meek and mild,
- 39:55Speaker 3: but it's not in your face. And that was a
- 39:57Speaker 3: hard part in casting this show, because you know, a
- 40:00Speaker 3: lot of the women from Jackson or even in Mississippi,
- 40:02Speaker 3: I should say, they're born to, of course, be a
- 40:06Speaker 3: certain way to the public. And then behind the scenes, honey,
- 40:09Speaker 3: all bets are off.
- 40:10Speaker 1: I mean, you are taught to act a certain way
- 40:13Speaker 1: in public, You're you're taught to talk a certain way
- 40:16Speaker 1: in public, and not saying that I'm not those things.
- 40:19Speaker 1: But I'm also not going to sugarcoat things and beat
- 40:23Speaker 1: around the bush. And that's Southern as well. I mean
- 40:26Speaker 1: the women that I'm around and that raised me are
- 40:28Speaker 1: from Mississippi and they don't sugarcoat things. So it's a
- 40:32Speaker 1: difference in being Southern, but also being truthful like that
- 40:38Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have to lie or pretend to be
- 40:40Speaker 1: something that you're not just because you're Southern. And that
- 40:43Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I'm not Southern because I call you
- 40:45Speaker 1: on your shit? Does it make sense?
- 40:47Speaker 2: It makes you honest.
- 40:48Speaker 3: We saw this season that yes, you and tamber went
- 40:51Speaker 3: to high school together, and Tambra has always come across
- 40:56Speaker 3: on the show as like the peacemaker, the one who
- 40:58Speaker 3: wants everyone to get along. And then in these past
- 41:01Speaker 3: couple of episodes, we've seen that allegedly Tambra has said
- 41:06Speaker 3: some things about you behind your back, and you looked
- 41:11Speaker 3: so surprised to discover that. Were you surprised that you
- 41:16Speaker 3: and Tambra would be at odds and that the odd
- 41:19Speaker 3: thing was the fact that allegedly you were saying things
- 41:23Speaker 3: about the bells to Tambra that she took back.
- 41:25Speaker 1: To the group. Well, it wasn't saying things. She took
- 41:28Speaker 1: back one thing because I never talked or discussed the
- 41:30Speaker 1: bills with Tama from the first conversation that we had
- 41:34Speaker 1: when I first called her. I'll say this, remember at
- 41:38Speaker 1: the reunion, and I'm not giving any of the reunion away.
- 41:41Speaker 1: When she explained exactly what the conversation was, I said, Okay,
- 41:45Speaker 1: now that sounds like something I may have said. So yes,
- 41:48Speaker 1: going back to Tama and I had a conversation. I
- 41:52Speaker 1: called her one I think, probably to congratulate her on
- 41:54Speaker 1: the show. I honestly do not remember exactly what it was,
- 41:58Speaker 1: but I do know it was before or the show
- 42:00Speaker 1: ever came out. It may have been when you guys
- 42:02Speaker 1: first started advertising the show, because it seems like it
- 42:05Speaker 1: was around Thanksgiving. To me, it may have been like
- 42:07Speaker 1: before thanks.
- 42:08Speaker 3: It was because we premiered in January, so we did
- 42:11Speaker 3: around the holidays, y'ap.
- 42:12Speaker 1: Okay, So I know it was before Thanksgiving because I
- 42:14Speaker 1: remember I came down to Jackson like after that. I'm
- 42:19Speaker 1: in Jackson every thanks again. I spend the holidays there,
- 42:21Speaker 1: but I was here and I came to Jackson. So anyway,
- 42:23Speaker 1: it was twenty twenty and I was pregnant. I had
- 42:26Speaker 1: my son, but I was pregnant. I saw the advertisement
- 42:28Speaker 1: whatever she posted up on social media, and one none
- 42:32Speaker 1: of the girls looked like themselves in that picture. I
- 42:34Speaker 1: don't know what the hell y'all did. I don't know
- 42:35Speaker 1: if y'all had to hire somebody else to do some
- 42:38Speaker 1: new coloring or something, but they did not like after
- 42:40Speaker 1: I ended up meeting them. So she said that in
- 42:43Speaker 1: that conversation when I was telling her, you know, congratulation
- 42:46Speaker 1: on the show, where's the show going to be about whatever?
- 42:48Speaker 1: That I said, Oh, y'all can find no cute girls
- 42:51Speaker 1: in Jackson. She said that I was joking, and I
- 42:53Speaker 1: probably now that sounds like something I probably said, just
- 42:56Speaker 1: throwing some shade. Ugly has never come out of my mouth.
- 42:58Speaker 1: I don't even really use the word ugly. So that's
- 43:01Speaker 1: why when we got to that sistervention and they threw
- 43:04Speaker 1: that out, I'm like, Taraa's a fucking lie. I never
- 43:07Speaker 1: said that. I didn't even remember the conversation until she
- 43:10Speaker 1: said it on the reunion when she brought back exactly
- 43:12Speaker 1: what happened. Then I said, oh okay, But my question was,
- 43:17Speaker 1: if you knew that I was even joking when I
- 43:19Speaker 1: said that, what was that for you to bring back?
- 43:22Speaker 1: What was that for you to come back to these
- 43:23Speaker 1: ladies and say, oh, well, she said that y'all talking
- 43:26Speaker 1: about some cute girls or whatever. For them to think
- 43:29Speaker 1: or perceive or just interpret that I was calling them
- 43:32Speaker 1: ugly in the episode when they just showed this last
- 43:34Speaker 1: week and the next scene with Melanie, she says, I
- 43:37Speaker 1: never said that they were ugly, and that was Letitia's interpretation.
- 43:41Speaker 1: That is so messy to me. It just had me
- 43:43Speaker 1: looking at her so different because when Tisha told me that,
- 43:46Speaker 1: she told them they need to watch everything that I say,
- 43:50Speaker 1: not to be like I was shady. Don't trust me.
- 43:53Speaker 1: That's the question I ask again when we were face
- 43:55Speaker 1: to face, even if I was, when have I ever
- 44:00Speaker 1: shaded you? When does anyone ever come to you Tamor
- 44:04Speaker 1: and said a Keisha said this and that about you.
- 44:07Speaker 1: Never So whatever your intentions were for telling these ladies
- 44:12Speaker 1: these things, that was something within her. So what I
- 44:14Speaker 1: would tell to Latitia Tamara Latrese and whoever else that
- 44:18Speaker 1: she thought they thought I was talking about them. You
- 44:19Speaker 1: should have been questioning Tamra's intentions. Why does she feel
- 44:22Speaker 1: the need to tell you those could be her feelings
- 44:24Speaker 1: because I had never said anything to tamor about like never,
- 44:28Speaker 1: She's never known me to shade her or anybody around her.
- 44:31Speaker 2: And like you said, we won't rebuild too much in
- 44:33Speaker 2: the reunion.
- 44:33Speaker 3: By the way, guys, this two part reunion is time
- 44:38Speaker 3: of the best reunions I have ever produced in my
- 44:40Speaker 3: entire life.
- 44:41Speaker 2: It is man d stick girl. So we won't give
- 44:47Speaker 2: much away.
- 44:47Speaker 3: But like you said earlier, it does come up at
- 44:50Speaker 3: the reunion, and I have to say this. I'm not
- 44:55Speaker 3: gonna give too much of way, but I'm gonna say
- 44:57Speaker 3: this because I've been again and a part of reality
- 45:01Speaker 3: for years and I've seen I've seen women going reunion
- 45:05Speaker 3: shows and backpedal, lie, blame the producers, blame editing. It's
- 45:11Speaker 3: been a blame game. I Keisha Holly Cologne stood two toes,
- 45:16Speaker 3: ten toes, twenty toes down and everything she said, and
- 45:20Speaker 3: I was shocked.
- 45:21Speaker 2: So you know what, I'm gonna be real. I'm gonna
- 45:24Speaker 2: be real. I'm be real. I was shocked that when
- 45:27Speaker 2: the heat was on you, you.
- 45:29Speaker 3: Were able to answer every question and to the point
- 45:33Speaker 3: where I sat back and was marveling in your honesty.
- 45:38Speaker 2: Because I've been doing this shit.
- 45:40Speaker 3: For a long time, and I've seen reunion shows of
- 45:43Speaker 3: shows I worked on where women just lie because they
- 45:47Speaker 3: want to please the audience on social media, and we
- 45:50Speaker 3: live in the world right now where people truly do
- 45:53Speaker 3: cater to social media. And one thing I always to
- 45:56Speaker 3: my reality stars and I said this to you too,
- 45:58Speaker 3: and Tagucci, don't feed into that.
- 46:01Speaker 2: That's not real.
- 46:02Speaker 3: That's people who are just trying to attack you because
- 46:05Speaker 3: they want.
- 46:05Speaker 2: A moment, and the moment you engage in them, they
- 46:07Speaker 2: felt like they got you. You stood up for yourself.
- 46:10Speaker 3: You were by yourself, stood up for yourself, and I
- 46:13Speaker 3: was so impressed by it that I look at you
- 46:16Speaker 3: and it's a woman named Ashley Silva a Love and
- 46:19Speaker 3: Marriage DC.
- 46:21Speaker 1: Oh, I love how long baby, Ashley and.
- 46:23Speaker 3: You are the same in terms of I said what
- 46:25Speaker 3: I said. If I hurt your feelings, I'm sorry, but
- 46:28Speaker 3: this is why I said it, and let's move the
- 46:30Speaker 3: fuck on. But I'm not going to say I didn't
- 46:32Speaker 3: say it and I love that about you on this season.
- 46:36Speaker 3: And when y'all see the reunion, baby Keisha, let the
- 46:39Speaker 3: girls have it.
- 46:40Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to meet Ashley in person. We've spoken
- 46:43Speaker 1: on social media, but her castmates told me the exact
- 46:48Speaker 1: same thing, Irana and Jamie. It was something I was
- 46:51Speaker 1: saying and doing, and Irana hit me in the DM
- 46:53Speaker 1: she said, you are Ashley and Ashley is you like?
- 46:58Speaker 2: And I was like, I gotta Ashley.
- 47:01Speaker 1: She's just like you remind me. So it was some
- 47:04Speaker 1: one of the shows or something. She was like, you
- 47:06Speaker 1: remind me so much of Ashley and I said, oh
- 47:09Speaker 1: my goodness. That means she's absolutely amazing and real recognize real,
- 47:13Speaker 1: and so I need I have to be Ashley in person.
- 47:16Speaker 1: You have to.
- 47:16Speaker 3: And Ashley is a fan of Bell Collector. She tweets
- 47:19Speaker 3: me all the time and dns me like, bitch, this
- 47:21Speaker 3: show is good. So before I let you go, talk
- 47:25Speaker 3: to my listeners who are also fans of yours about
- 47:30Speaker 3: what they can expect for the rest of the season
- 47:32Speaker 3: of Bell Collective in addition to this explosive two part reunion.
- 47:37Speaker 1: So you can expect to get what you've been getting,
- 47:40Speaker 1: and that's just me being real, standing in my truth
- 47:43Speaker 1: and my honesty, and I try to look over the
- 47:48Speaker 1: things that they have said. That Tamra said about me
- 47:53Speaker 1: because of our history. Our grandparents were friends, and so
- 47:58Speaker 1: I try to move past that. One thing you'll see
- 48:01Speaker 1: about me and you'll learn that through this show is
- 48:03Speaker 1: that I'm a very loyal person. I am loyal to
- 48:06Speaker 1: a fault, and I'm still gonna do the right thing
- 48:11Speaker 1: what I feel is the right thing. But after the
- 48:13Speaker 1: reunion and watching how the reunion played out, and like
- 48:18Speaker 1: what you just said, I had no one to defend me.
- 48:23Speaker 1: I had no one to back me up, to take
- 48:26Speaker 1: my side, to even say well, yeah, akesha, yeah you
- 48:30Speaker 1: know that did happen. My feelings have definitely changed from
- 48:36Speaker 1: what you're going to see ending this show to how
- 48:39Speaker 1: I feel after that reunion because I tried. I thought
- 48:44Speaker 1: that I could move past it and I could get
- 48:45Speaker 1: over it. But I cannot. And so I'm gonna let
- 48:50Speaker 1: Tamra keep peddling up in behind Latitia, kissing Latitia's ass,
- 48:54Speaker 1: that's what you do, and let her defend you, let
- 48:57Speaker 1: her have your back again. It's the woman that she
- 49:01Speaker 1: brought on the show saying was with your man. That's
- 49:04Speaker 1: what you do.
- 49:06Speaker 2: Okay, there's nothing to ask after that, So I mean
- 49:11Speaker 2: you're the reality king.
- 49:12Speaker 3: Let's starv No, I listen my rain drops.
- 49:17Speaker 2: No, I don't bag normally because I, like I said,
- 49:20Speaker 2: I've been doing this for so long. Nothing surprises me. Baby,
- 49:24Speaker 2: that surprised me.
- 49:25Speaker 3: I don't have anything to say except oh baby, I
- 49:30Speaker 3: got my entire life of those six hours. And I
- 49:33Speaker 3: love you. Thank you so much for doing the show.
- 49:36Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.
- 49:38Speaker 2: We've had the best time.
- 49:39Speaker 3: Thank you to Willie Willie Ohans himself, who is a
- 49:44Speaker 3: star in his own right.
- 49:45Speaker 2: I think he just brings.
- 49:47Speaker 3: That East Coast vibe to the South and it's just
- 49:51Speaker 3: fun to watch. And you two are just amazing people,
- 49:55Speaker 3: not just as personalities on the show, but behind the scenes,
- 49:58Speaker 3: like I want your to know before I keep.
- 50:00Speaker 2: It was even on the show. She and I would
- 50:02Speaker 2: deem each other and.
- 50:02Speaker 3: She would invite me to like places like I got
- 50:04Speaker 3: this going on, you want to come or whatever, and
- 50:07Speaker 3: she knows me I'm always working. I'm like, thank you, sis,
- 50:09Speaker 3: but you know I'm trying to build this company, honey.
- 50:11Speaker 2: Then she gets it. But she is such a.
- 50:14Speaker 3: Beautiful human being with a beautiful spirit. And the reason
- 50:18Speaker 3: why you have been able to withstand everything coming at
- 50:24Speaker 3: you is because you have the favor of God.
- 50:27Speaker 2: And the fans are seeing that.
- 50:29Speaker 3: I promise you, when they see this reunion, they are
- 50:33Speaker 3: going to say, that's freaking Iikeisha Baby is the one
- 50:36Speaker 3: to watch.
- 50:37Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you.
- 50:38Speaker 2: I got to give you flowers.
- 50:40Speaker 3: Now about that, So where can my listeners follow you
- 50:45Speaker 3: on social media? And how can it support you in
- 50:47Speaker 3: Farr Street and Jackson and let us know how's it
- 50:50Speaker 3: going with the water crisis as well.
- 50:53Speaker 1: So as far as following me, I am on Facebook,
- 50:56Speaker 1: I am on Twitter, and I am on Instagram. Everything
- 50:59Speaker 1: is at IQI Holly and that is a I K
- 51:01Speaker 1: I S H A H O L L Y. So
- 51:04Speaker 1: you can find me on any of those platforms. Fair Street,
- 51:08Speaker 1: all of my prayer warriors out there, I am asking
- 51:10Speaker 1: for your prayers. So our group we have submitted a
- 51:13Speaker 1: proposal to the City of Jackson to do the two
- 51:17Speaker 1: hundred and three hundred block of Fair Street right now,
- 51:19Speaker 1: the proposal we're currently working on is to redevelop and
- 51:22Speaker 1: revitalize the two hundred block. Well, a lot of people
- 51:25Speaker 1: don't know about the buildings on Fair Street when they
- 51:27Speaker 1: keep saying why does they look the way? And all
- 51:29Speaker 1: of this just short history. The jack City of Jackson
- 51:33Speaker 1: just acquired those buildings back. They did not have ownership
- 51:36Speaker 1: of those buildings as of twenty nineteen. Now that they
- 51:39Speaker 1: have the buildings, they have done the work that needs
- 51:41Speaker 1: to be done on them, and they have put them
- 51:43Speaker 1: up for lease and for sale. And the Holly Cologne
- 51:46Speaker 1: Group is going in trying to buy the four buildings
- 51:48Speaker 1: that they have up for sell now in order for
- 51:50Speaker 1: us to redevelop, revitalize, and get new businesses that in
- 51:54Speaker 1: those buildings. There are a lot of people who are
- 51:56Speaker 1: sending in proposals. So the prayers I'm asking for is
- 51:59Speaker 1: that my proposal is best, it is the only option,
- 52:02Speaker 1: and that I will be the first woman developer on
- 52:05Speaker 1: this Fair Street project. So that's what I'm asking for now.
- 52:09Speaker 1: As far as the water crisis in Jackson, we have
- 52:11Speaker 1: received very good news from the mayor. The boardwater order
- 52:15Speaker 1: is over. There is clean water running through that plant
- 52:19Speaker 1: and so yes, so I'm very grateful and I'm very
- 52:22Speaker 1: thankful for that. I am not one to say, you know,
- 52:26Speaker 1: what I've done and what I'm doing, especially when it
- 52:28Speaker 1: comes to those things. But my family and my business
- 52:32Speaker 1: and foundation, we've been doing things privately with organizations and
- 52:36Speaker 1: also with the school with Jackson State University, so we
- 52:39Speaker 1: are very They are still needing things. If you would
- 52:43Speaker 1: like to reach out to me or to the Willy
- 52:44Speaker 1: Cologne Foundation, you can hit me on the Willie Cologne
- 52:48Speaker 1: Foundation Instagram page and just I can let you know
- 52:51Speaker 1: what I've been told and people who are still in
- 52:53Speaker 1: need for other things beside water.
- 52:55Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Aikeisha, Holly Cologne, and tonight we
- 52:59Speaker 3: got the season finale of Bell Collective and the week
- 53:03Speaker 3: after that is part one of the two.
- 53:06Speaker 2: Part reunion where you don't want to miss it.
- 53:14Speaker 3: I love that conversation with Akesha. I mean to hear
- 53:18Speaker 3: about her background being born in Jackson, Mississippi, how her mother,
- 53:24Speaker 3: her birth mother writing, her biological mother, and her biological dad,
- 53:29Speaker 3: who was married at the time, had a situationship that
- 53:34Speaker 3: birth Aikeisha, and to know about this legacy that she's
- 53:39Speaker 3: a part of was just so beautiful to hear, especially
- 53:43Speaker 3: when you think about Jackson, Mississippi, which of course is.
- 53:46Speaker 2: A predominantly black town.
- 53:48Speaker 3: So to be able to have this legacy and this
- 53:51Speaker 3: wealth and this access as a little girl. I hope
- 53:55Speaker 3: it allowed you to have a grand understanding of who
- 53:59Speaker 3: Aikesha really is.
- 54:01Speaker 2: She's a good girl, She's funny, and one thing I.
- 54:04Speaker 3: Like about Akisha is she's super deeper, honest, and as
- 54:07Speaker 3: a reality TV producer who has seen it all child,
- 54:12Speaker 3: I can appreciate that. Don't forget Tonight we have the
- 54:17Speaker 3: season finale of The Collective. Get into this special clip
- 54:22Speaker 3: that I provided for you, and don't forget to tune
- 54:25Speaker 3: in at nine o'clock a Central on the Oprah Winfrey Network.
- 54:31Speaker 1: I'm gonna shock everybody. This is not the time nor
- 54:34Speaker 1: the place. A rink is on the way. We have
- 54:37Speaker 1: a communication issue. If Glenn cheeks again, we don't have
- 54:41Speaker 1: to go ahead and sign the papers on site.
- 54:43Speaker 3: Bell Collective season finale Friday at ninety eight Central. Thank
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