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Dan Campbell calls OTAs a Pajama Party, Vikings hire new GM, Texas Tech wants Texas · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on? My people? How are
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Speaker 1: getting ready. We've got Stanley Cup Finals, we got the
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Speaker 1: a lot of both Actually hockey, Big puck guy here, Carolina,
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Speaker 1: onto the background. They look incredible. Wemby doesn't look bad either,
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Speaker 1: So uh, Nick spurs and I'm here to talk football
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Speaker 1: because we only got a couple more weeks OTAs, we'll
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Speaker 1: dive into that. The Vikings have a new GM aj Brown.
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Speaker 1: Is he gonna get traded? Brendan Soresby be fighting those allegations.
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Speaker 1: Has gambled ninety thousand dollars since he got to college,
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Speaker 1: just little grassroots, little grassroots show. Let's dive into some football.
1:39
Speaker 1: I saw Dan Campbell he called OTA's a pajama party.
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Speaker 1: It was just a great line, and in fairness, he
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Speaker 1: was like, I've been doing this long enough. I've seen
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Speaker 1: so many players in May and early June look fantastic,
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Speaker 1: and then you get to the middle of August when
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Speaker 1: the pads come on and they can't play dead in
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Speaker 1: New Western and Ben Johnson talked. I watched his press
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Speaker 1: conference last week and he was asked about how different
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Speaker 1: this year is being the hunted instead of the hunter.
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Speaker 1: He's like, Bro, we're just trying to get to know
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Speaker 1: each other and work on fundamentals. And I think this
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Speaker 1: time of year, especially with the new rules, this time
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Speaker 1: is really all about coming together and implementing and executing
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Speaker 1: in shorts and a T shirt, your basic plays on
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Speaker 1: offense and defense. And for a veteran player I was watching,
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Speaker 1: We've talked about this. The Sam Darnold interview with Chris
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Speaker 1: Long on his green light pods really good, and he
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Speaker 1: must have just come off the practice field because they
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Speaker 1: were talking. He's like, yeah, I'm already thinking about a
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Speaker 1: play I screwed up with at practice. If you're a
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Speaker 1: veteran player, whether you be like an all pro, like
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Speaker 1: a Justin Jefferson, like a Miles Garrett, he's a bad
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Speaker 1: example because he doesn't show up, but just really good
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Speaker 1: players around the league, this is a great time just
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Speaker 1: work on your fundamentals. I watched Russ Henley on the
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Speaker 1: PGA Tour to day one for the sixth time, and
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Speaker 1: he said, like, I think I've been working as hard
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Speaker 1: as I ever have on my game this year. And
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Speaker 1: he's been on the tour a long time. He's a
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Speaker 1: Ryder Cup like, He's a very accomplished player. So practice
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Speaker 1: habits as you age are very very important. I think
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Speaker 1: the defining attribute to like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning
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Speaker 1: was fundamentally they were so elite, and I think they'd
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Speaker 1: be the first to tell you they had to be
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Speaker 1: because they couldn't run away from anybody, So in terms
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Speaker 1: of their feet, in terms of timing on the routes,
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Speaker 1: they had to be perfect on it. Especially Peyton didn't
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Speaker 1: have the biggest arm right and if the ship broke down,
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Speaker 1: it's not like he could take off like He's Lamar Jackson.
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Speaker 1: A Relly couldn't even move like Aaron Rodgers. So I
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Speaker 1: think fundamentals are such a huge part of this time
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Speaker 1: of year, because once you get in to training camp,
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Speaker 1: it gets lost a little bit because it is fast
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Speaker 1: and furious. Right now, I would say practice is a
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Speaker 1: lot like being in the slow lane on the freeway,
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Speaker 1: and come early August is like being in a Ferrari
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Speaker 1: on the Autobahn. You are hauling ass moving and if
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Speaker 1: you cannot keep up, you get lost. And I'm just
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Speaker 1: as guilty as anybody when I worked in the league
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Speaker 1: for years doing radio podcast stuff in the barry going
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Speaker 1: to these practices. It's easy to get excited going to
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Speaker 1: an OTA, But who's gonna stand out in Ota? Not
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Speaker 1: like the gritty guard who might be a seventeen game
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Speaker 1: starter for you. It's gonna be the fastest guy on
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Speaker 1: the team, which is usually gonna be a corner obviously
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver. I was listening to my guys that
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Speaker 1: cover the forty nine ers, Tim Kawakami and Matt Barrows.
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Speaker 1: They're like Jacob Cowing, who is a mid round pick
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, who runs like a four
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Speaker 1: to two from Arizona, and they're like, he looks fantastic,
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Speaker 1: Well he should. I mean, when you're the fast guy
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Speaker 1: on the team, if you don't look good this time
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Speaker 1: of year, we got major problems here. Here's the main
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Speaker 1: issue with him is every time the pads come on,
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Speaker 1: he gets injured and he can't play. So I think
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Speaker 1: what Dan Campbell was saying, like the pajama party, you
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Speaker 1: can't make hardcore evaluations this time of year with younger players.
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Speaker 1: You know, with veteran guys, you know that they can
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Speaker 1: answer the bell when it comes to the physicality of
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Speaker 1: August and obviously the season. With young guys, you have
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Speaker 1: no clue but the one thing they can control, which
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Speaker 1: is a huge part of this year because think about
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Speaker 1: like when you were in high school and you went
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Speaker 1: to like calculus or geometry or whatever, you had to
5:42
Speaker 1: know basic math before you got there. They didn't just
5:45
Speaker 1: give you a geometry in like sixth grade, right, it
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Speaker 1: usually had or calculus. That stuff usually happens like eleven
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Speaker 1: twelfth grade. Well, it's no different in football that you
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Speaker 1: are learning the basic plays because you go back overrom
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Speaker 1: the start of training. The difference is it's not really
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Speaker 1: cruise control that time of year. It is fast paced
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Speaker 1: hauling ass and if you cannot hold on, you will
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Speaker 1: get left behind. And I think a huge part of
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Speaker 1: this time of year for these younger players is you
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Speaker 1: better learn what is going on. You are better off
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Speaker 1: having an understanding and knowing the playbook than you are
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Speaker 1: making a bunch of plays a practice. Because while making
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Speaker 1: a play at practice is cool and I would never
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Speaker 1: be opposed to making a play at practice, it doesn't
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Speaker 1: really matter. And to be honestly, it's kind of irrelevant
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Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things. But if that coach
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Speaker 1: goes the assistant coach, the coordinator, and definitely the head coach,
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Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing, He'll get more shots. He
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Speaker 1: just will. I remember my freshman year in high school,
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Speaker 1: I really knew the playbook. Now, granted, we ran the
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Speaker 1: wing tea and we used to go to wing ta
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Speaker 1: camp and it was sweet. You put on pads and
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Speaker 1: got after it, And I remember getting I got elevated
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Speaker 1: to be a starting right guard. I had no business
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Speaker 1: doing that. Just because I knew the plays, then the
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Speaker 1: pads came on. I got fucking overwhelmed. That that happens
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Speaker 1: a lot in football. Coaches want to give chances to
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Speaker 1: people that know what they're doing. Now, just because you
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Speaker 1: know what you're doing does not mean you can play
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Speaker 1: one percent, And you truly don't know even in the
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Speaker 1: praxes because it's kind of it's not necessarily like a fugazi,
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Speaker 1: but it's not normal football because after a couple of plays,
7:30
Speaker 1: you know the strengths and weaknesses of all your teammates. Well,
7:33
Speaker 1: when you get into the even the preseason games, a
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Speaker 1: young player, I don't know what they're doing right on
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Speaker 1: any given play. I don't know their place because in
7:43
Speaker 1: the pros, like after a while in college, same thing,
7:46
Speaker 1: you know if you're a guard or you're a tight end,
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Speaker 1: like you know the guy lining up for you, the
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Speaker 1: plays they run, what his tendencies are. So going into
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Speaker 1: a football game, you don't know that, especially as a
7:57
Speaker 1: young player when you're thinking about a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 1: But I think the easiest way to get on the
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Speaker 1: field as a rookie, as a practice squad guy is
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Speaker 1: to know the playbook like the back of your hand,
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Speaker 1: and I think that is a huge, huge point of
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Speaker 1: emphasis this time of year. And then when you go
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Speaker 1: to break for the forty days, you know, obviously these guys,
8:17
Speaker 1: now there's so much money in the line, they're not
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Speaker 1: just smoking cigarettes, drinking beer sitting by the pool. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they're training the majority of the time. Not saying you
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Speaker 1: can't have some beers and enjoy yourself, but the forty
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Speaker 1: to forty five day break, most players take that shit
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Speaker 1: pretty seriously. Now, it's hard if you're a rookie, like
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Speaker 1: especially if you were in Ohio State or Indiana or Miami,
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Speaker 1: you haven't really had a break, right. You played right
8:42
Speaker 1: into the middle of January, the end of January, you
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Speaker 1: go to the combine, you start doing the workouts, you
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Speaker 1: come right to there. You probably just want to fucking breather.
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Speaker 1: But if you get a breather, which you deserve, you know,
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Speaker 1: a week off or whatever. But you can't just not
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Speaker 1: do anything for four weeks and then show back up
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Speaker 1: a training camp and expect to kick ass and take names.
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Speaker 1: So I think this is a fascinating time of year
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Speaker 1: because it's it feels like it's ninety five percentimental at
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Speaker 1: this point. In time. It used to probably be like
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Speaker 1: more seventy thirty. But these practices are now kind of
9:14
Speaker 1: a joke. I mean, I mean they really are. And
9:17
Speaker 1: it's crazy that sometimes even in season, I was listening
9:20
Speaker 1: to Kurt Signetti was on with Josh Pate. I texted him.
9:24
Speaker 1: I was like, he did some fantastic if you haven't
9:26
Speaker 1: checked it out, he's he's interviewed every coach basically in
9:29
Speaker 1: college football and Signetti and I guess I knew this
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Speaker 1: because it's been reported on, but he's famous. They do
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Speaker 1: not practice LNG, which is I would say, you would
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Speaker 1: think this old school tough guy kind of just grouchy,
9:45
Speaker 1: soob he'd be on the field for hours. I mean
9:48
Speaker 1: that's kind of like a Saban Belichick parcels of just
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Speaker 1: like we're grinding this shit out. So again, we're on
9:54
Speaker 1: the fiel like hour and a half during the season
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Speaker 1: and we don't even more pass very often. And even
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Speaker 1: Josh Pate was like, well, how are your team's so tough?
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Speaker 1: And I think it's, you know, it's the people that
10:05
Speaker 1: you acquire in college or the NFL, Like your team's
10:08
Speaker 1: gonna be tough in college if you have a mesador
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Speaker 1: and bane on your line of scrimmage, right. I mean,
10:14
Speaker 1: if you got me and you on their line of scrimmage,
10:16
Speaker 1: you can practice for seven hours a day. It's not
10:17
Speaker 1: gonna mean shit. So obviously the players, but the mentality
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Speaker 1: that you preach every day, which I think is clearly
10:24
Speaker 1: pretty big with this generation. And I think a lot
10:27
Speaker 1: of these young coaches are really, really good. I saw
10:31
Speaker 1: this thing with Dan Campbell talking with John Harball. This
10:33
Speaker 1: might have been a year or two old, but he
10:35
Speaker 1: talked about their meeting you know, old school meetings in
10:38
Speaker 1: like the nineties, the two thousands, I would say pre
10:41
Speaker 1: cell phone, and I don't even mean pre cell phone,
10:43
Speaker 1: but the capabilities of these cell phones, Like, I'm not proud.
10:47
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're just looking at your phone. To look at
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Speaker 1: your phone. You're like, why am I doing that? I
10:51
Speaker 1: can't just sit here for a second. I can't just
10:53
Speaker 1: sit in the elevator. I can't ride the escalator at
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Speaker 1: the airport without looking down at the cell phone and
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Speaker 1: just pressing a button, just pressing Instagram, press my email,
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Speaker 1: just fucking sit in your own thoughts for five freaking seconds.
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Speaker 1: We all. I would imagine many listening to this struggle
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Speaker 1: with that you're almost like disappointed in yourself. And Dan
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Speaker 1: Campbell said, like, listen, you can't just run a meeting
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Speaker 1: an hour straight. You will lose the guy's attention. So
11:21
Speaker 1: we try to go like twenty twenty five minutes, give
11:23
Speaker 1: them a little break, take a breather, take a piss,
11:26
Speaker 1: and come back in five minutes later. It's easier to
11:28
Speaker 1: keep their attention. So and I think if you look
11:30
Speaker 1: around the league, you know the Ben Johnson's, the Kevin O'Connell's, obviously,
11:33
Speaker 1: the mcveig's, the La Floors, all the kind of younger
11:37
Speaker 1: crew I think have a better understanding of people, not
11:40
Speaker 1: saying that the older guys don't. But you know, Jim
11:43
Speaker 1: Harbaugh is famous for being on the field for a
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Speaker 1: long long time, and I think I'm not disputing like
11:51
Speaker 1: his resume, it speaks for itself. He's an ass kicking coach.
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Speaker 1: But I do wonder if you have to be open
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Speaker 1: to adapting as times change. Obviously at this time of year,
12:01
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter either way because you have strict rules
12:04
Speaker 1: and if you break the rules, your player representation will
12:07
Speaker 1: turn you in. That that has been pretty well established
12:10
Speaker 1: around the league that people that like hit in these practices,
12:13
Speaker 1: people that try to push the envelope will get turned
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Speaker 1: in and they will get in trouble. So I think
12:18
Speaker 1: this right now is basically a mental exercise, and the
12:22
Speaker 1: mental exercise is trying to keep you mean, a large
12:24
Speaker 1: percentage of your players are in their twenties and try
12:28
Speaker 1: to keep them dialed in and a tentive. I can't
12:32
Speaker 1: even listen. I struggled to pay attention now. Granted, the
12:35
Speaker 1: majority of the classes I took in high school or
12:37
Speaker 1: college did not interest me, and even the ones that
12:40
Speaker 1: would interest me now, some of the business finance classes
12:43
Speaker 1: I didn't have any money or it's not like I
12:44
Speaker 1: was playing the stock market. Then it kind of bored me.
12:47
Speaker 1: You know, it's like accounting classes. I would like to
12:49
Speaker 1: know some of those skills now. But when you're making
12:51
Speaker 1: zero dollars or seven dollars an hour picking fucking golf
12:55
Speaker 1: balls in a range machine at San Louis Country Club
12:58
Speaker 1: to just try to have some beer money, you're like,
13:01
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit about fifo. What is this
13:04
Speaker 1: supposed to mean for me? And then you get a
13:06
Speaker 1: little older, like I probably should have paid attention, but
13:09
Speaker 1: I was in college at a time where social media
13:11
Speaker 1: didn't exist. I didn't have an iPhone. I had like
13:15
Speaker 1: a motorola. They had like snake. If you were bored
13:18
Speaker 1: in practice, you would like Sneak. In the college newspaper
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13:25
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Speaker 1: One thing I was thinking about Game seven. I was
15:54
Speaker 1: watching that. It was fantastic. I mean, the the intensity,
15:59
Speaker 1: it was just a fantastic basketball game. I mean I was.
16:02
Speaker 1: I played a little golf I well, I mean started
16:04
Speaker 1: the day doing Little Daddy daycare from about five thirty
16:06
Speaker 1: to noon, played eighteen holes and then I came home. Yeah,
16:10
Speaker 1: like two cocktails, nothing crazy, and just turned that bad
16:13
Speaker 1: boy on. We ordered we ordered some dinner and just
16:16
Speaker 1: just enjoyed it. And I was thinking because Chet Holmgren,
16:20
Speaker 1: who when I used to live in Walnut Creek in
16:23
Speaker 1: the Bay Area, the NBA G League team was there,
16:26
Speaker 1: and I got to know one of the right hand
16:29
Speaker 1: men for one of the top players on that team
16:32
Speaker 1: who's now in the NBA, and he's a big football guy.
16:35
Speaker 1: We met for cocktails a couple of times, and I
16:37
Speaker 1: remember him telling me, he's like, Bro, there's this white
16:40
Speaker 1: dude in Minnesota that is like Kevin Durant, like what
16:45
Speaker 1: he's like, Yeah, he's going to Gonzaga next year. Like
16:48
Speaker 1: he's he like, that's skinny, like he know, he's like
16:51
Speaker 1: kind of looks like him, Like that's his body type.
16:54
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, you're gonna look at him and
16:56
Speaker 1: you're gonna laugh. But when you watch this fucker play,
17:00
Speaker 1: he's a dominant player and obviously he goes again Zaga.
17:04
Speaker 1: He's the number two overall pick. His name's Chet Holmbert.
17:06
Speaker 1: He wasn't wrong, and he's become an All NBA player.
17:09
Speaker 1: He got a max contract and then he laid one
17:12
Speaker 1: of the biggest dudge you'll ever see in a playoff game,
17:14
Speaker 1: and overall he had an underwhelming playoff slash definitely series,
17:19
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about I remember being a kid
17:21
Speaker 1: before Barry Bonds got on the cream in the clear.
17:24
Speaker 1: His knock used to be, I remember you listened to
17:25
Speaker 1: like Sportstock Radio when I'm like junior high. It's like,
17:28
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds can't get it done in the playoffs, Like, yeah,
17:30
Speaker 1: baseball's a little weird, you know. It's like you just
17:33
Speaker 1: have a bad couple of games. I can't get it done.
17:35
Speaker 1: It's like I've watched this guy hit forty five bombs
17:36
Speaker 1: that's pre steroids, then got on the steroids and started
17:39
Speaker 1: hitting balls out of stadiums and he was incredible. It
17:41
Speaker 1: was a knock on Alex Chardriguez as well. Obviously, I
17:44
Speaker 1: would say the best player the last twenty years in
17:46
Speaker 1: basketball that has this knock as James Harden, who's been objectively,
17:50
Speaker 1: like statistically MVP and just dominant player in the playoffs.
17:54
Speaker 1: Yet I don't think anyone that follows sports for the
17:56
Speaker 1: last like four or five years takes them seriously at
17:58
Speaker 1: all once the regular season ends, especially now that we admit,
18:01
Speaker 1: unlike football, the regular season is irrelevant. I mean, it's
18:04
Speaker 1: not even the same sport, and I was thinking about
18:07
Speaker 1: football because chet Holmgren has his game and I've consumed
18:12
Speaker 1: a bunch of content. Went to the gym this morning,
18:14
Speaker 1: listened basketball stuff. It's like, we got to trade this guy.
18:17
Speaker 1: TRADEHM for you, honest, get rid of him. It's like
18:18
Speaker 1: he's twenty two years old. Like you can't just sometimes
18:22
Speaker 1: you got to build some callouses mentally, Like not everyone
18:25
Speaker 1: is a Navy Seal at twenty two years old, wired upstairs.
18:28
Speaker 1: I remember when I was in college, Pau Gasol got
18:31
Speaker 1: punked by the Boston Celtics in a playoff series and
18:35
Speaker 1: it was like this is not gonna work, and he
18:37
Speaker 1: like fucking grind. He came back the next year they
18:38
Speaker 1: won like back to back championships. You know what I mean.
18:41
Speaker 1: Not everyone is just ready for the moment right when
18:44
Speaker 1: it hits, especially when you're young. I'm not saying he
18:46
Speaker 1: ever will be, but you never know. But in basketball
18:48
Speaker 1: is like you gotta get rid of him, sell right now.
18:51
Speaker 1: Get In football, Lamar Jackson has won multiple MVPs. It
18:54
Speaker 1: has been objectively beside a half against the Buffalo Bills,
18:57
Speaker 1: not good in the playoffs relative to his regular like
19:01
Speaker 1: bad Dak Prescott, you could argue is worse. I mean
19:05
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, the three year stretch he had playing for McCarthy.
19:09
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought the one year when they were
19:11
Speaker 1: playing the forty nine ers in the second round, like
19:12
Speaker 1: this team can win the Super Bowl, and he was
19:15
Speaker 1: fucking terrible, threw a couple of picks. He threw picks
19:18
Speaker 1: in all these games. I know, the one game against
19:21
Speaker 1: the Packers where they lost like seven hundred and ten
19:24
Speaker 1: wasn't all his fault, but he was not good in
19:26
Speaker 1: the first half of that game either. But I like,
19:30
Speaker 1: could Lamar Jackson win a Super Bowl and have a
19:32
Speaker 1: great playoff run? Obviously could Dak Prescott. I believe he could.
19:37
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, who has played three playoff games and has
19:41
Speaker 1: been horrendous. I mean the last two years, he's looked
19:44
Speaker 1: like a practice squad player in the playoffs. There is
19:46
Speaker 1: not one soul in the NFL. If I pulled GMS,
19:49
Speaker 1: they wouldn't consider him a top five quarterback right now.
19:51
Speaker 1: Not a fucking soul, no one. After that game where
19:56
Speaker 1: it's like, God, that was terrible, It's like you gotta
19:58
Speaker 1: trade him. And I was thinking, like one powerful thing
20:02
Speaker 1: about football, it's just the one game. It's like you
20:05
Speaker 1: have a bad game, you have an awful game. It's
20:06
Speaker 1: like that there was a lot on the line there,
20:08
Speaker 1: but he was one game played bad. I've said this forever.
20:12
Speaker 1: I love Peyton Manning. When I was in like high
20:14
Speaker 1: school and early on in college, loved him. I definitely
20:17
Speaker 1: did not like Tom. I was a huge Peyton Manning guy.
20:20
Speaker 1: I want to see Peyton Manning win a Super Bowl.
20:24
Speaker 1: And he would play these playoff games after just these
20:27
Speaker 1: dominant regular seasons and he would look like a different player.
20:31
Speaker 1: You'd be like, what what is going on? He would
20:35
Speaker 1: get pumped, I mean punked. There was never an article written.
20:40
Speaker 1: You gotta trade him. I bet over the next couple
20:42
Speaker 1: of days, everyone's gonna be like, trade Chet Holmer, trade him.
20:46
Speaker 1: He couldnot. He Wemby owns them. Yeah, in this series,
20:50
Speaker 1: and obviously the guy's a better player. But I do
20:53
Speaker 1: think there's something powerful about watch a game after game
20:55
Speaker 1: after game. Listen, if football had five game series, and
21:00
Speaker 1: Herbert and Lamar and some of you would have probably
21:02
Speaker 1: different but you don't. And I just think it's a
21:06
Speaker 1: crazy element of these other sports that the power of
21:10
Speaker 1: a series, I mean, and it proved over the course
21:13
Speaker 1: of time, Like you have James Harden on your team,
21:15
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get it done. It is not gonna happen.
21:17
Speaker 1: And he's gonna be a reason why because he refuses
21:19
Speaker 1: to play defense, which is it was funny. I was
21:22
Speaker 1: listening to Rossillo talked to Anthony Slater, who I think
21:27
Speaker 1: still lives in Sacramento. He works for ESPN now, and
21:29
Speaker 1: Rasilla's like, you know what's funny about basketball is like,
21:33
Speaker 1: you know, it's like he's a defensive specialist, or this
21:36
Speaker 1: guy's a great offensive coach. Whether you played in the
21:40
Speaker 1: NBA or whether you played pick up basketball growing up,
21:43
Speaker 1: you play both sides. This isn't football where it's like
21:47
Speaker 1: this guy played safety in college, he started becoming a
21:49
Speaker 1: defensive back coach, and then he became a defensive coordinator.
21:52
Speaker 1: It's like this guy was a quarterback, then he became,
21:54
Speaker 1: you know, a wide receiver coach, and then he became
21:56
Speaker 1: the past game coordinator. Like they're dramatically different. Colin a
22:00
Speaker 1: Blitz is a lot different than Colin you know, all
22:03
Speaker 1: go special or the screen at the right time, where
22:06
Speaker 1: in basketball it's all kind of interconnected. Yet some of
22:09
Speaker 1: these coaches it's like they just hired Sean Sweeney from
22:14
Speaker 1: the San Antonio Spurs defensive specialist. It was Ron Adams
22:20
Speaker 1: who used to be Steve Kerr's original right hand guys,
22:22
Speaker 1: Like best defensive coach in the league used to be
22:25
Speaker 1: Tom's guy, and Tom Thibodeaux used to be known as
22:28
Speaker 1: that guy too, great defensive guy doesn't know offense. How's
22:31
Speaker 1: that possible? Like, how could you not know offense and defense?
22:35
Speaker 1: Coach of basketball at the highest level. But that's the
22:38
Speaker 1: way it's talked about. And yeah, I just think that
22:43
Speaker 1: the power of these series is so different than football.
22:47
Speaker 1: Like if the Cowboys went thirteen and four, there would
22:51
Speaker 1: be a ton of pressure on them going into the playoffs.
22:53
Speaker 1: Let's say they say they won't win their division, that
22:55
Speaker 1: they win twelve or thirteen games. The question would be
23:00
Speaker 1: can Dak get it done this the year? But no
23:03
Speaker 1: one would think like he can't have a good game, right,
23:08
Speaker 1: it can't happen. But we immediately say in basketball, like
23:12
Speaker 1: if I got to get rid of this guy, this
23:14
Speaker 1: is not gonna work. And maybe that's just the nature
23:18
Speaker 1: of you know, basketball is probably a little more reality
23:21
Speaker 1: television show than football that way, you know, because it's
23:26
Speaker 1: much more about the off the court than it is
23:28
Speaker 1: on the court. You're not really breaking down the plays
23:30
Speaker 1: we're in football. It's like, you know, he's just he's
23:32
Speaker 1: a little late on these out routes. It's like he
23:34
Speaker 1: presses a little. And I just think it's fascinating that
23:37
Speaker 1: everyone's just selling chet right now. It's like, Guys, he's
23:41
Speaker 1: twenty two years old. If you think he's a complete
23:43
Speaker 1: mental midget, like you wouldn't be in business with him
23:46
Speaker 1: in the first place. So what a win by the Spurs.
23:50
Speaker 1: I mean that was There's never been a guy that
23:53
Speaker 1: looks like this guy. I did talk some shit, probably
23:57
Speaker 1: be like an I don't find Wimby that interesting. He's
23:59
Speaker 1: growing on me. He's growing on me. I do think
24:02
Speaker 1: that the Knicks versus this guy is gonna be a
24:05
Speaker 1: be a pretty We have actually a fantastic the Stanley
24:08
Speaker 1: Cup finals. I watch both the conference finals. Vegas Knights
24:12
Speaker 1: are on just a fucking heater right now and Carolina,
24:17
Speaker 1: I mean they look like they have like Wayne Gretzky
24:20
Speaker 1: and Mariyo Lemu playing for their team. They look I mean,
24:24
Speaker 1: they just can't be touched. It'd be stunning if they
24:27
Speaker 1: don't win. I think in the NBA wouldn't be stunning
24:30
Speaker 1: if either one of these teams. I mean, I got Shane,
24:34
Speaker 1: our producer here, who's probably watching this right now editing it.
24:39
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, bro, Knicks are winning. The Knicks are winning.
24:44
Speaker 1: The passionate fans. You know what's unique about New York
24:49
Speaker 1: is and the Bear used to be like this before
24:52
Speaker 1: their team's all left, but it was like the majority.
24:55
Speaker 1: I think the difference of New York is you have
24:59
Speaker 1: a lot of fans, you have a lot of Mets fans.
25:02
Speaker 1: You probably have more Yankee fans and more Giants fans,
25:06
Speaker 1: but because of the nature of the size of the
25:08
Speaker 1: area that it's it's not a fifty to fifty split,
25:12
Speaker 1: but there are clearly the Jets are a massive brand.
25:14
Speaker 1: The Mets are massive. You know, the Bay Arier was
25:17
Speaker 1: like that, right you had the Niners, Giants guy, you
25:20
Speaker 1: had A's Raiders people. But occasionally you would have like
25:23
Speaker 1: I knew people like growing up people in high school.
25:25
Speaker 1: They're like A's forty nine er guys that were like
25:28
Speaker 1: Raiders Giants guys. It doesn't feel like that happens as
25:31
Speaker 1: often in New York, where you have like a Yankee
25:35
Speaker 1: like Yankee Jets. I guess that could happen Mets giants.
25:41
Speaker 1: It feels like most Mets fans or Jets, and most
25:44
Speaker 1: Yankee fans are Giants. Again, could be speaking a turn,
25:47
Speaker 1: but like the Bay it was like the Warriors, whether
25:50
Speaker 1: you were in San Jose, whether you were in Oakland,
25:52
Speaker 1: whether you were in you know, San Francisco, whether you're
25:55
Speaker 1: in Marine like you just like the Warriors. And that's
25:57
Speaker 1: the thing with the Knicks now. I guess technically they
25:59
Speaker 1: have another team that nets, but it's like that might
26:01
Speaker 1: as well be a G League team at this point.
26:04
Speaker 1: So it's it's gonna be a pretty captivating series. The
26:08
Speaker 1: other story today that I saw is, and maybe this
26:11
Speaker 1: is a day old now that Nolan Teasley the Vikings
26:16
Speaker 1: just hired as their general manager. I'll be honest, I've
26:18
Speaker 1: never heard of them now Seattle Seahawks Dieard fans. I'm
26:23
Speaker 1: sure I have some familiarity with him. He's been the
26:26
Speaker 1: assistant GM. I mean not sure. I saw the headline
26:29
Speaker 1: whenever he was elevated a couple of years ago to
26:32
Speaker 1: be John Schneider's assistant GM. I actually just sent him
26:35
Speaker 1: a text. I said, if you hire a guy as
26:38
Speaker 1: an intern and then ten eleven years later the guy's
26:41
Speaker 1: a GM, that might as well be like finding a
26:45
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and like the fourth round. I mean,
26:48
Speaker 1: that's that's like drafting Richard Sherman in the fifth. It's
26:51
Speaker 1: one thing if you draft a guy in the first
26:53
Speaker 1: round and he becomes an All Pro player. So like, yeah,
26:55
Speaker 1: it's kind of the job. But I find an intern
26:59
Speaker 1: and then how many years left later? You know? Within
27:03
Speaker 1: I think you know, he's hired in twenty thirteen, in
27:05
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, so thirteen years he's a general manager
27:09
Speaker 1: of a franchise. That that's an incredible hire. If you
27:13
Speaker 1: tell me you hire a guy to start as an
27:15
Speaker 1: intern and he becomes like an executive for you, that's
27:19
Speaker 1: really impressive. Like when I was in you know, Andy
27:23
Speaker 1: Reid's made a killing out of doing this in his career.
27:26
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott started for him as an intern, Brett Veetz
27:29
Speaker 1: started for him as an intern. Matt Naggi started for
27:31
Speaker 1: him as an intern. And I just think when you
27:35
Speaker 1: can have a pipeline of hiring these guys, hiring the
27:39
Speaker 1: right type guys, it's it's really really powerful, but I
27:45
Speaker 1: was I was reading that they John I guess knows
27:49
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell and is these guys Kevin O'Connell and Teasley
27:54
Speaker 1: have known each other, which would have been my first
27:57
Speaker 1: question of like, this is not an easy gig for
28:01
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't have a relationship with him to go into.
28:06
Speaker 1: So having a prior relationship to me makes this much
28:09
Speaker 1: more understandable in the sense of, like, if you're gonna
28:14
Speaker 1: leave being the right hand guy for one of the
28:16
Speaker 1: best franchises in the league, like you'd have to feel
28:19
Speaker 1: pretty comfortable. Now, Minnesota has been a very successful franchise
28:23
Speaker 1: for decades. They've hired excellent gms over the course of
28:26
Speaker 1: my life. But like going into a situation where Kevin
28:30
Speaker 1: Seaffert the guy ESPN's like beat Ryder who just knows
28:34
Speaker 1: the Vikings really well. Because there was a report like yeah,
28:36
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell's. Maybe Kevin had said this, like yeah, I'm
28:39
Speaker 1: involved when the Wolfs asked me to get involved and
28:42
Speaker 1: he reported like he's been heavily involved. They have leaned
28:47
Speaker 1: on his opinions on this stuff. It's like I never understand, Well,
28:54
Speaker 1: I guess I do, but I think it's such, and
28:57
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not anti Kevin O'Connell. I just think it's
29:00
Speaker 1: anointed sometimes as being like Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Sean McVay,
29:04
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon's like, can we just want a playoff game?
29:07
Speaker 1: That's all I'm asking. Again, I like him. I think
29:10
Speaker 1: I would want him to be my coach. He's clearly impressive.
29:13
Speaker 1: Get a little pass happy for my taste, but he's
29:16
Speaker 1: done a good job hiring. I mean, you go after Flores,
29:19
Speaker 1: who's known since New England that the excellent coaching staff.
29:24
Speaker 1: But like when you have the juice embrace, you have
29:29
Speaker 1: the juice, Like Howie Roseman would never go to a
29:32
Speaker 1: press college, Like, yeah, I didn't. It wasn't really my
29:34
Speaker 1: choice to acquire this player. We kind of just let
29:37
Speaker 1: this was Fangio's decision, or this was Sirianni was banging
29:41
Speaker 1: the table, so I was like, hey, here's the pick. No,
29:43
Speaker 1: he just this is my decisions. John Schneider wouldn't say
29:47
Speaker 1: that these Kevin O'Connell would never say that of a
29:50
Speaker 1: play call, So I think there's nothing wrong. I'm heavily involved.
29:56
Speaker 1: I'm if I was fired tomorrow. Fifteen teams would fire
29:59
Speaker 1: their coach to hire me, Like, yeah, you have a
30:02
Speaker 1: lot of juice. Like part of the reason QUESI is gone,
30:07
Speaker 1: I'm sure is because you're like didn't believe in him.
30:09
Speaker 1: Don't blame you at all. I would want him gone too.
30:12
Speaker 1: Let him go run numbers for the forty nine ers.
30:15
Speaker 1: I don't want you picking my players. Clearly you are
30:18
Speaker 1: not capable of doing that. Where this guy comes from
30:21
Speaker 1: a scouting background working with the Seattle Seahawks, who are
30:25
Speaker 1: clearly one of the best run so it shows you
30:28
Speaker 1: right think about Minnesota. They hired this guy who probably
30:31
Speaker 1: should be on Wall Street making millions upon millions of dollars,
30:35
Speaker 1: who I don't blame him, loves football, wants to get involved,
30:40
Speaker 1: and became very number centric and became for a four
30:44
Speaker 1: year stretch, one of the worst drafters in the history
30:45
Speaker 1: of the league. I think two of whatever his picks,
30:48
Speaker 1: like it was like the lowest percentage of snap for
30:51
Speaker 1: four year run in NFL history for draft picks, which
30:55
Speaker 1: is just I think if you just had a simulator
30:59
Speaker 1: like AI draft for you, the chances that it would
31:03
Speaker 1: be that low would be very very small. So he
31:06
Speaker 1: basically is worse than a simulation. Think about that, and
31:10
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be some you know, brilliant dude, And
31:16
Speaker 1: it's just because you're smart doesn't mean you know football.
31:20
Speaker 1: And when you come from these certain organizations, like it's
31:23
Speaker 1: pretty clear when you get these people who have trained
31:27
Speaker 1: under the Shanahan system, they're gonna be very comfortable running
31:31
Speaker 1: the zone scheme, running attack right. They're going to know
31:35
Speaker 1: that like the back of their hand. Why because that's
31:38
Speaker 1: that's the base of everything they do on the offensive
31:40
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Like if you come from Andy Reid,
31:44
Speaker 1: you're going to be You're gonna have an understanding of
31:47
Speaker 1: the passing game, and you're gonna have an understanding of
31:50
Speaker 1: building a team physically. So I think, again, I can't.
31:55
Speaker 1: I don't know this guy personally, but when I read
31:58
Speaker 1: that he had a relationship with Kevin o'cum donald, I
32:01
Speaker 1: would say I would be pretty excited, especially going from
32:04
Speaker 1: what you've had, which became an embarrassment. I mean it
32:08
Speaker 1: truly did became a real big embarrassment for the franchise.
32:13
Speaker 1: And I also think it's a little unfair. It feels
32:16
Speaker 1: like QUESSI is taking all the heat for the JJ pick,
32:20
Speaker 1: where I just don't ever imagine in any organization that
32:24
Speaker 1: a quarterback is picked without the head coach being involved.
32:28
Speaker 1: And this goes to the Ty Simpson thing. Now that
32:30
Speaker 1: we have more information, I still don't feel like Sean
32:33
Speaker 1: McVay was like all in, but he could be convinced
32:37
Speaker 1: and he just did it. That one still baffles me
32:42
Speaker 1: a little bit. The JJ one doesn't baffle me in
32:44
Speaker 1: the sense that like they needed a quarterback, but like
32:46
Speaker 1: you get judged on the decisions you make, you know.
32:49
Speaker 1: Kenny Atkinson, the coach for the Cavs, was just so
32:52
Speaker 1: adamant about the process, the process, the process, the process,
32:56
Speaker 1: just our process. We should have been up to one.
32:59
Speaker 1: Our process. We're playing really good, Kenny. No one gives
33:03
Speaker 1: a flying you know what about your process when you're losing.
33:07
Speaker 1: You know who I want to hear about their process.
33:09
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos, Bill Belichick for twenty years with
33:13
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Nick Saban can talk about the process when
33:17
Speaker 1: you're getting your ass kick and your big acquisition was
33:20
Speaker 1: landing James Harden. We think your process is wrong. We
33:25
Speaker 1: don't want to know about this, or if we do so,
33:28
Speaker 1: we can do the opposite. And I think sometimes the
33:31
Speaker 1: process with some of these guys. You know, so many
33:35
Speaker 1: of these owners now are worth so much money that
33:40
Speaker 1: it can be difficult if you've just been an area scout,
33:45
Speaker 1: a college scouting director assistant GM, you might not speak
33:49
Speaker 1: their language. Yeah, I mean, how what are you going
33:53
Speaker 1: to talk to a guy with billions of dollars about?
33:56
Speaker 1: Where it's much easier for the guy. It's like, yeah,
33:58
Speaker 1: easily could be a Golden Sacks for hell, I was
34:01
Speaker 1: a golden in sex. You want to talk about what
34:03
Speaker 1: Micron's doing today? You know, one of my biggest mistakes
34:07
Speaker 1: was selling some of my AMD holdings. That that's the
34:11
Speaker 1: lingo they talk not necessarily like hey this guard at
34:15
Speaker 1: this division one double a school. Listen, I think we
34:18
Speaker 1: get him in the seventh. It's like, yeah, they would
34:21
Speaker 1: rather talk about like what stocks you short? You know,
34:25
Speaker 1: it's if you're gonna have a conversation with David Tepper,
34:27
Speaker 1: it's probably easier to have a conversation with him about
34:30
Speaker 1: the stock market than it is you know, the running
34:33
Speaker 1: quarters coverage and running some zone blitz. He doesn't know
34:37
Speaker 1: what the fuck you're talking about. But if you start
34:39
Speaker 1: talking about applestock, he can talk to you to he
34:41
Speaker 1: blue in the face, and I'm rooting for this guy
34:45
Speaker 1: because I always think it's cool when someone comes in
34:49
Speaker 1: on the ground floor. Because when you come in on
34:52
Speaker 1: the ground floor at these organizations, not only are you
34:57
Speaker 1: making no money. When you really look back at the
35:01
Speaker 1: task you're doing, they are so stupid, but they help
35:06
Speaker 1: you separate. Whether it's picking up laundry, going to get coffee,
35:11
Speaker 1: dropping people off of the airport. I mean, the things
35:14
Speaker 1: you do, it's I wouldn't even say it's a humbling
35:20
Speaker 1: experience because most people that do it are relatively young,
35:24
Speaker 1: and you don't even it's like a cool the opportunity,
35:27
Speaker 1: your foots in the door, what you're getting to be
35:30
Speaker 1: a part of and potentially grow too. But you look
35:34
Speaker 1: back as you get older, you're like, do you know what?
35:36
Speaker 1: You'd have to fuck? Sometimes my wife's like, hey, you
35:39
Speaker 1: need to ride to the need to ride to the airport.
35:41
Speaker 1: I'm like, honey, they Madcober, you know, I mean, I
35:43
Speaker 1: got shit to do. Meanwhile, I'm making seventeen airport runs
35:48
Speaker 1: a day. But it kind of is what it is.
35:52
Speaker 1: AJ Brown, I really don't even know is he gonna
35:57
Speaker 1: go to New England? I mean we've been acting like
36:00
Speaker 1: he's been going there forever. With Russini out of the mix,
36:03
Speaker 1: you know, the reportings kind of went dark and then
36:06
Speaker 1: rap Sheet threw his hat in the ring and said
36:08
Speaker 1: they're still far far apart. Is Howie Roseman destined to
36:13
Speaker 1: get a first round pick for this guy a lot
36:15
Speaker 1: of wear and tear ben injured before makes a lot
36:18
Speaker 1: of money. Could there be some sort of deal like
36:20
Speaker 1: I give you a third round in twenty seven and
36:25
Speaker 1: contingent first round the following year that if he plays enough,
36:30
Speaker 1: it's a first round or if not, it's a second.
36:34
Speaker 1: I guess that could be a possibility, but I just
36:40
Speaker 1: I just hope this thing ends. I also think that
36:44
Speaker 1: if the market is a little worse than we thought,
36:48
Speaker 1: are there going to be a bunch of other teams
36:49
Speaker 1: getting involved. So I think the hard part for how
36:54
Speaker 1: he is. You know, DJ Moore goes for a second. Now,
36:57
Speaker 1: grant it's like a second, Well what's the second? Is
37:01
Speaker 1: it pick thirty five or is it pick sixty? Because
37:03
Speaker 1: that's what Dj Moore went for. You know, the Houston
37:05
Speaker 1: Texans got the Commander second because of the Tunzel trade. Well,
37:10
Speaker 1: that turned out to be a top forty pick Dj
37:13
Speaker 1: Moore got trade of the Bills. Well, that pick was
37:16
Speaker 1: at the end of the round, so not all picks. Well,
37:20
Speaker 1: the powerful thing about a first round pick is they
37:22
Speaker 1: have a lot of They just have a lot of equity. Right,
37:26
Speaker 1: obviously a high pick, but even a pick in the twenties,
37:28
Speaker 1: you can always flip that guy for a player like
37:31
Speaker 1: the Sean Payton did for almost an Eric Weddle Jalen
37:35
Speaker 1: Waddle twenty nine for Trent McDuffie. But you start talking
37:45
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37:49
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37:51
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37:54
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37:58
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38:00
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38:03
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38:05
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38:08
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38:13
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38:18
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38:21
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38:23
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38:25
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Speaker 1: three and out. I'll end with this Sorsby. I read
40:07
Speaker 1: a long article on The Athletic that Brendan Soorsby has
40:12
Speaker 1: bet ninety thousand dollars over the course of his college
40:15
Speaker 1: career with various his own accounts through other friends, which
40:20
Speaker 1: I think they're kind of calling bs on well Sorsby's
40:23
Speaker 1: trying to so it makes them look better. But the
40:26
Speaker 1: big negative is that he bet on Indiana countless times.
40:29
Speaker 1: Now there's also a nefarious unders bet on an Indiana
40:34
Speaker 1: quarterback that he claims he had nothing to do with.
40:39
Speaker 1: I think this is a tough spot. Now, one ninety
40:41
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for a college student, It's like, that's that's
40:44
Speaker 1: a lot of coin to me for a quarterback who's
40:47
Speaker 1: made millions of dollars over the last couple of years
40:49
Speaker 1: is not that much money. I think about, like, how
40:51
Speaker 1: much did I bet in college. If you count Vegas,
40:56
Speaker 1: you know, internet online gambling kind of started. Like my
40:59
Speaker 1: June year, we used to play blackjack. I would say
41:04
Speaker 1: probably six to eight thousand dollars like my probably twenty
41:10
Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two. When I was in college, if
41:13
Speaker 1: you count Vegas an online gambling, I had no money.
41:17
Speaker 1: So relative to ninety thousand, if you would have told
41:20
Speaker 1: me that over the course of those two years, I
41:22
Speaker 1: would have had million plus dollars in my account, I
41:25
Speaker 1: easily would have bet ten percent of it on. I've
41:28
Speaker 1: been saying forever. If you're if you're a college player,
41:31
Speaker 1: even if you're not a quarterback, you're just a good player,
41:34
Speaker 1: and you're getting nine hundred K. Well, during the fall,
41:40
Speaker 1: you practice, you eat, you lift, you sleep, probably will
41:47
Speaker 1: keep this PG. You're having a good time with the ladies.
41:51
Speaker 1: You probably not really going to class, right, but your
41:56
Speaker 1: days are pretty full with football. You get one day
41:59
Speaker 1: off a week. But a lot of these little towns
42:01
Speaker 1: like it's there's not most of these guys aren't living
42:05
Speaker 1: in Miami. Most of these guys aren't living in Chicago.
42:08
Speaker 1: It's like or New York City. What would you really
42:11
Speaker 1: do even if you took all the boys out to eat.
42:13
Speaker 1: It's like, what could you possibly you have so much
42:16
Speaker 1: extra money? Now, I'd understand some of these smart guys
42:21
Speaker 1: get a financial advisory, they started investing some of it.
42:25
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a percentage, but it's not all of them.
42:28
Speaker 1: What would you do with all that cash? Do you
42:30
Speaker 1: ever remember being in college, especially in forties, if you're
42:34
Speaker 1: in your thirties, if you're in your twenties, if you're old, definitely,
42:36
Speaker 1: if you're older, if you ever got a paycheck, if
42:39
Speaker 1: you're working some odd job at a restaurant, at whatever,
42:43
Speaker 1: and you get three four hundred dollars, I remember thinking like, totally,
42:47
Speaker 1: we are going out tonight, We're hitting the fucking town.
42:53
Speaker 1: It was like two hundred bucks. Now go a long way,
42:56
Speaker 1: or some food for everybody, You get some rounds for everybody.
43:01
Speaker 1: What could of course, if you're gambling ninety k I
43:04
Speaker 1: actually think that's low. Now he's adamant that once he
43:08
Speaker 1: became a member of the roster, that he stopped gambling,
43:13
Speaker 1: because he's like, I wasn't, and he's right. Anyone anyone
43:18
Speaker 1: listening to this that played college sports, and definitely anyone
43:20
Speaker 1: listening to this if you fallow college sports. When you
43:23
Speaker 1: are a red shirt, especially in football, I can't speak
43:25
Speaker 1: to all the other sports. You don't. You're not quite
43:31
Speaker 1: like an injured reserve player, but you're not a huge
43:34
Speaker 1: part of anything. You have nothing to do with the game.
43:37
Speaker 1: You don't travel at least you know, when I was
43:40
Speaker 1: at Friends of the State, you definitely did not. And
43:42
Speaker 1: I would imagine a lot of these major programs you
43:44
Speaker 1: do not. You don't really get to play in practice.
43:48
Speaker 1: I remember one thing that Pat Hill used to do is,
43:51
Speaker 1: so you have a game on Saturday and Sunday was
43:54
Speaker 1: essentially just like for the guys that played in the game,
43:58
Speaker 1: was to run out the lactic acid, get a sweat,
44:01
Speaker 1: and get like a light kind of walk through. The
44:04
Speaker 1: red shirt players and young players who maybe play on
44:08
Speaker 1: special teams but don't play offensive defense would go full
44:12
Speaker 1: pads and scrimmage and then all the vets would there'd
44:15
Speaker 1: be like a snack delivered and they'd watch them. But
44:18
Speaker 1: imagine this team just played a real game that was
44:21
Speaker 1: on ESPN or Fox, and then you just scrimmage on
44:25
Speaker 1: the field in front of your coaches, and it's a
44:26
Speaker 1: really big deal because maybe you make some plays in there,
44:29
Speaker 1: maybe they kind of look at you if there's an
44:31
Speaker 1: injury to bump up. But my point is, when you're
44:33
Speaker 1: a red shirting, you do feel much closer to like
44:36
Speaker 1: a random student on campus than you do like the
44:38
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. So I don't even I don't even think
44:43
Speaker 1: he's lying there. Now. If the NCAA had any juice
44:48
Speaker 1: like they used to before they started losing lawsuit after
44:51
Speaker 1: lawsuit after lawsuit, his career would be done because what
44:55
Speaker 1: he did. I do understand them saying we're not tolerating
44:58
Speaker 1: this if you didn't bet against your team, betting on
45:02
Speaker 1: your team, and we get it was a couple of
45:04
Speaker 1: years ago, and technically I don't think it was that
45:07
Speaker 1: much money just can never be tolerated. We have to
45:09
Speaker 1: set a precedent. I'd be like, he's done. But whenever
45:12
Speaker 1: I see that, like, well, the NCAA, I feel like
45:14
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose these lawsuits. And then, by all accounts,
45:18
Speaker 1: this judge is like an alumni who everyone thinks is
45:23
Speaker 1: just gonna throw it out. I don't know how this
45:25
Speaker 1: thing's gonna end, but I think in a past life,
45:29
Speaker 1: his career would one hundred percent be over and he'd
45:31
Speaker 1: be getting ready for this supplemental draft. I will not
45:34
Speaker 1: be shocked at all if he wins this case. And
45:39
Speaker 1: me personally, like I can speak for young men, and
45:43
Speaker 1: I can't imagine how much money or having that much
45:46
Speaker 1: money in an account, Like I'm very, very grateful that
45:52
Speaker 1: any financial success for me has come gradually. No money
45:57
Speaker 1: in my twenties, no money relative My wife at thirty
46:03
Speaker 1: years old probably tripled what I brought home, and I
46:06
Speaker 1: thought I was like successful. I'd been in the NFL,
46:09
Speaker 1: I had a radio show, she was in real estate,
46:11
Speaker 1: just slinging it. Most of my friends. It's like I
46:14
Speaker 1: and you just kind of and it makes you completely unfazed,
46:17
Speaker 1: and it's like, realize, it doesn't do anything for me.
46:20
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I like making it, but it
46:22
Speaker 1: doesn't like I'm much more prepared than if at twenty
46:26
Speaker 1: two years old, you're like, here's four hundred grand. I
46:31
Speaker 1: might have fucking chartered jet Cobo with my friends, who
46:34
Speaker 1: I might have been like, I'm gonna play every single
46:36
Speaker 1: golf course in America in first class. I mean, I
46:40
Speaker 1: don't know what I would have done. So I have
46:43
Speaker 1: a little more sympathy for guys making stupid decisions. I
46:47
Speaker 1: totally would be in agreement if he had bet against
46:49
Speaker 1: his team because he's like, we suck. I'd be like, yeah, bro,
46:52
Speaker 1: you're done. Even if you were an idiot at eighteen
46:55
Speaker 1: years old, like we all were. I mean, sometimes it's
46:58
Speaker 1: funny you get older, you some memories really stick with you,
47:04
Speaker 1: and others that you probably used to have I feel like,
47:06
Speaker 1: are gone, Like I just don't remember that time. And
47:09
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, something will kick into your head,
47:11
Speaker 1: or you'll have a dream, or you'll thinking about something
47:15
Speaker 1: or something in life, will you know, kind of kick
47:18
Speaker 1: back a memory, maybe a song, maybe thinking about friends,
47:22
Speaker 1: or seeing something on social media about a human that
47:25
Speaker 1: you haven't seen a long time, and it'll kind of
47:29
Speaker 1: create some sort of emotional trigger to get a memory going.
47:35
Speaker 1: And I just I don't know, man, I just know
47:40
Speaker 1: at eighteen nineteen years old, the human that I was,
47:44
Speaker 1: and I wasn't a bad person, I got in trouble
47:46
Speaker 1: or anything, but I just then the guys I was around,
47:48
Speaker 1: I mean, could have spent some nights in the clink.
47:53
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much for just doing stupid ass shit.
47:56
Speaker 1: And we had no money. None. You would giving us
48:00
Speaker 1: a little, you would give us ten thousand dollars and
48:02
Speaker 1: money went farther back then, dramatically farther. I saw someone
48:07
Speaker 1: getting made fun of online for saying like it was
48:10
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Leary, the Shark Tank guy. But you see these
48:13
Speaker 1: kids eating twenty eight dollars lunches. It's like, well, Kevin,
48:18
Speaker 1: I'm in somewhat agreement. I guess you could save some
48:20
Speaker 1: money bringing a lunch to work. But if you just go,
48:24
Speaker 1: like you spend a twenty dollars, you go to Chipotle,
48:27
Speaker 1: You've been at Taco Bell lately. Remember being in high school,
48:30
Speaker 1: you go to taco about five dollars, you'd be full.
48:33
Speaker 1: Five dollars gets you like a burrito. Now go to
48:36
Speaker 1: McDonald's lately, buy a couple items. How much costs? Do
48:40
Speaker 1: ninety nine cents menus even exist anymore? Anywhere you go
48:44
Speaker 1: Now they're like one forty nine, Like that's called inflation.
48:48
Speaker 1: Times are different, And I just look at this situation
48:51
Speaker 1: and I go, I've said over and over I'm not
48:56
Speaker 1: like personally scorned and think that he should just be.
49:00
Speaker 1: I remember Saban went on this. I think sometimes the media,
49:03
Speaker 1: especially with college kids, when you make a mistake, like
49:07
Speaker 1: with professional athletes. I feel less like or she rice like,
49:11
Speaker 1: you're fucking moron, bro. I think you couldn't be a
49:16
Speaker 1: bigger idiot. It's like, whatever the stipulations of your probation
49:20
Speaker 1: for something that probably should have been way worse based
49:23
Speaker 1: on all the information we've seen in the videos, Like
49:26
Speaker 1: this thing could have gone way worse for you. You
49:29
Speaker 1: would think you'd be on your best behavior. So even
49:31
Speaker 1: if you like smoking a little gunge, if it says
49:34
Speaker 1: you're gonna get drug tested, you don't know when it's coming,
49:36
Speaker 1: can you just lay off it for a month? And
49:38
Speaker 1: you can't. I'm just I'm out on you. I can
49:42
Speaker 1: just I can't. You can't to avoid going to thirty
49:45
Speaker 1: days in jail. Can't just put down the bong. I mean,
49:49
Speaker 1: give me a break. You're just an idiot. But some
49:52
Speaker 1: of these guys making similar mistakes, Like looking back, Honey
49:54
Speaker 1: Badger just smoking a little weed at LSU. It's like
49:58
Speaker 1: I remember, thinking back forever the NA used to test
50:01
Speaker 1: about marijuana. It's crazy how far we've come. And I'm
50:03
Speaker 1: not a weed guy. I used to take some gummies.
50:06
Speaker 1: I don't really anymore. It's never really been my thing.
50:10
Speaker 1: But and I think sometimes we overhype, like you can
50:14
Speaker 1: do it all on. It's like, eh, I mean, I'm
50:17
Speaker 1: not against it, but I think that just operating like
50:20
Speaker 1: it's water. I mean, there's there's gotta be some some
50:22
Speaker 1: balance here. And I think that back to the Saban thing,
50:28
Speaker 1: it was mussy Muhammad, and I forget the instance he
50:31
Speaker 1: had in college, but he got in trouble and this
50:34
Speaker 1: would have been like, you know, mid to late nineties.
50:36
Speaker 1: So I mean, the local sports writers, I couldn't even
50:39
Speaker 1: imagine what they were writing about. Just cut this guy,
50:43
Speaker 1: send him his career should be over, and he didn't,
50:47
Speaker 1: and he gave him a second chance and he went
50:50
Speaker 1: on to play. I think, I don't know, twelve fifteen
50:53
Speaker 1: years in the NFL, and Saban was like his daughter's
50:57
Speaker 1: a Valve Victorian and going to Harvard, and you guys
51:01
Speaker 1: all wanted me to cut him. She shows you some
51:04
Speaker 1: people change, some people mature, some people never do, right.
51:08
Speaker 1: I mean, Johnny Manziel's fighting Bob Menery on YouTube. It's like,
51:13
Speaker 1: you know, Johnny, what happened ten years ago. I don't
51:16
Speaker 1: know think has changed much. Uh not that it's as
51:19
Speaker 1: bad maybe as it once was, but it's not going great,
51:23
Speaker 1: that's what you're doing. I wouldn't say it's like, you know,
51:25
Speaker 1: he's he's like Myron Roll change his life. He's saving
51:29
Speaker 1: lives working at the local hospital. Not quite, but I
51:35
Speaker 1: hope Soresby plays in college because I want them to
51:38
Speaker 1: be good. The other thing is the Texas Tech Cody
51:41
Speaker 1: Campbell and all those guys did offered to buy out
51:47
Speaker 1: Texas's game to play them. I will defend Texas pretty sure.
51:54
Speaker 1: They're playing Ohio State in the non conference and then
51:57
Speaker 1: they play in the SEC. I remember looking at the
52:00
Speaker 1: schedule of the SEC. It ain't easy. So it's like, yeah,
52:03
Speaker 1: I would love to see that game. But if I'm them,
52:06
Speaker 1: it's like, screw you guys. You guys play nobody in
52:10
Speaker 1: the non conference and then your conference blows so our
52:14
Speaker 1: above average team in our conference that's like our fourth
52:17
Speaker 1: best opponent in the SEC, would dominate everyone in your
52:21
Speaker 1: conference except maybe you. So to think that we're just
52:25
Speaker 1: gonna get behind this, it's like, bro, google our schedule
52:28
Speaker 1: and look at yours. Now. The one thing with Sark
52:32
Speaker 1: I do have a hard time with is he made
52:35
Speaker 1: the comment about basket weaving at Ole Miss and unless
52:41
Speaker 1: you're coaching at Stanford unless you're coaching at some of
52:46
Speaker 1: these just elite academic institutions. Let's and I'm not saying
52:51
Speaker 1: Texas is a bad academic institution at all, but you
52:55
Speaker 1: think in this day and age, with their football program,
52:57
Speaker 1: any of these guys are going to like actual class,
53:00
Speaker 1: especially all their good players. Do you think when some
53:04
Speaker 1: of these guys transferred in the receiver from Auburn he
53:07
Speaker 1: even had to show his transcripts. None of that shit
53:10
Speaker 1: matters anymore. So I would agree back in the day
53:12
Speaker 1: making fun of schools like the Mississippi Schools or Florida
53:15
Speaker 1: State Freeshoes University, all that shit was easiest cake. I
53:19
Speaker 1: would say, Now beside a couple schools, maybe Northwestern Stanford,
53:24
Speaker 1: you think these guys are going to class, you'd be like, well,
53:27
Speaker 1: Michigan's a great school. You think Bryce Underwood is attending
53:31
Speaker 1: a lot of classes. I just have a hard time
53:34
Speaker 1: seeing that, especially with all these guys go to online classes.
53:38
Speaker 1: Which do you think they're taking him? And I don't
53:40
Speaker 1: blame if I thought I was going to the NFL,
53:41
Speaker 1: I didn't go to class and I wasn't going to
53:43
Speaker 1: the NFL. So these guys that don't have to go
53:45
Speaker 1: to class. I think you can bet ever, be careful
53:48
Speaker 1: you live in glasshouses, Like, yeah, your university might be
53:51
Speaker 1: better than the other guys university, but don't act like
53:53
Speaker 1: your guys are sitting in the front of like quantum
53:57
Speaker 1: engineering or like pre med, like give me a fucking break.
54:01
Speaker 1: You might have some players on the team to do that,
54:04
Speaker 1: but I think it's safe to say the core of
54:06
Speaker 1: your team probably ain't going to class. Audio else see
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