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- 0:00Speaker 1: Back for another episode the Blaminac podcast. No this Wolf
- 0:05Speaker 1: from the Halfway Up podcast. This episode is like different emotions.
- 0:11Speaker 1: I feel like black people we took another had I
- 0:13Speaker 1: feel like we took another loss. We're always taking his,
- 0:17Speaker 1: were taking his, were taking losses. But I feel like
- 0:20Speaker 1: it really shows like we are at a barrel or
- 0:23Speaker 1: the crab, Like we are a crab at the barrel
- 0:26Speaker 1: at the bottom. Yeah, like another hit Carmelo, Anthony, Cyrus,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and it's more names added on to the list with
- 0:37Speaker 1: Trayvon Martin and everybody else. More names added to the list.
- 0:41Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I wasn't really up on like
- 0:45Speaker 1: the whole Carmelo Anthony situation, Like even though it happened
- 0:49Speaker 1: three years, it didn't bring light to me into just
- 0:51Speaker 1: now how that work researched you.
- 0:53Speaker 2: It's crazy, even the Cyrus Cormacs and that happened years
- 0:56Speaker 2: ago and I didn't know, Bro, it wasn't until the
- 0:59Speaker 2: something about when the verdict breaks the internet, that's when
- 1:03Speaker 2: people hear yeah, yeah, it's an uproar.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Then it's an uproll when I feel like it shouldn't
- 1:07Speaker 1: be like that. I feel like we should be more
- 1:09Speaker 1: hands on, more involved, more investigations everything. I felt like,
- 1:14Speaker 1: we don't. I wouldn't say we not like we need
- 1:18Speaker 1: to be. We need to be more aware of things
- 1:20Speaker 1: like this. We need to really give our input, I output,
- 1:23Speaker 1: support and everything else, because the ain't nowhere to have.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony should have went the trial with a white lawyer.
- 1:29Speaker 1: I'm being on lay roll that he disconnected from the
- 1:33Speaker 1: culture he Carmelo.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Yeah, the lawyer wasn't the problem. What the problem was
- 1:39Speaker 2: was the whole system with the problem. Well, the problem
- 1:41Speaker 2: was specifically so with Carmelo's case. It's twelve jurors, I
- 1:46Speaker 2: think all white. The thing is there was three black people.
- 1:49Speaker 1: They excluded them.
- 1:51Speaker 2: They strike them, and striking somebody is when you the
- 1:55Speaker 2: judge or the attorney or whoever the fuck they have
- 1:58Speaker 2: doubt to believe that these people or might they might
- 2:01Speaker 2: not be fair basically you know what I mean, They
- 2:03Speaker 2: might be biased, But do you know why they strike him?
- 2:06Speaker 1: Was a teacher? All three of them?
- 2:09Speaker 2: I believe it was all three of them, But let's
- 2:10Speaker 2: say worst case scenario are one, right, but I believe
- 2:13Speaker 2: it was all three and they strike them because of that.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Because the situation happened with students on school property. So
- 2:20Speaker 2: they feel like they would have a heart for the situation,
- 2:22Speaker 2: and so they strike them. But here's the here's the
- 2:24Speaker 2: here's the part though, can you can you already guess
- 2:26Speaker 2: the fund of the irony in the situation. One of
- 2:30Speaker 2: the jurors that they left, that's why.
- 2:33Speaker 1: It's a teacher. So pretty much they strike them because
- 2:36Speaker 1: the color of their skin. Really can't legally say that that.
- 2:40Speaker 1: I ain't gonna no, no, no, no, I'm with you.
- 2:42Speaker 2: I'm just saying like, yeah, I'm just saying like you
- 2:46Speaker 2: can't legally say that. But that's the thing, like they
- 2:48Speaker 2: find ways to get racism off legally.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Yeah, he had no fight in that courtroom.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Yeah, the game is about what you can it's not
- 2:53Speaker 2: about it's about what you can prove. It's not about
- 2:55Speaker 2: what you can't do.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Had no fight. The prosecutor, the lawyer, the jury, the
- 3:00Speaker 1: judge disconnected. I even listening to it, like, you know,
- 3:10Speaker 1: I don't feel like the lawyer really fought for him either.
- 3:14Speaker 1: It was like this this system. I heard they had
- 3:16Speaker 1: raised money on go for me and they shut the
- 3:18Speaker 1: goal for me down, said it wasn't a good cause.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So it was like, we this ship was designed,
- 3:23Speaker 1: they keep it. Yeah. I heard they raised at one
- 3:26Speaker 1: point they raised, Damn, there's seven hundred thousand. Wow. And
- 3:29Speaker 1: I heard they shut it down because they said it
- 3:30Speaker 1: wasn't a good cause. Wow. Who the fuck is you
- 3:33Speaker 1: that determine this is a good cause? Who shut it down?
- 3:35Speaker 1: Go fund me? I don't know who. They said. It
- 3:37Speaker 1: was shut down so much so they didn't get the money.
- 3:40Speaker 1: He didn't get the money.
- 3:41Speaker 2: I say, I don't. I wish I knew more about that.
- 3:43Speaker 2: I could speak to that.
- 3:44Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't get the money. This is what
- 3:45Speaker 1: I'm hearing. He didn't get the money. But it's like
- 3:49Speaker 1: we were in an upro this, that and the third.
- 3:52Speaker 1: But we need we really need to be back in
- 3:55Speaker 1: as black man.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Well, I think we. I think we need to. We
- 3:57Speaker 2: need to talk about what the situation is. We need
- 3:59Speaker 2: to kind of like lay the story out and then
- 4:01Speaker 2: go into it. Which one you want to start with?
- 4:03Speaker 1: You can later story out. You know, you better with it.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Which one? Which one you want to start with?
- 4:06Speaker 2: We can start with we can start with Carmelo. Okay,
- 4:10Speaker 2: so this is what I know about Carmelo, and you
- 4:12Speaker 2: jump in at any point Not definitely. Carmelo Anthony was
- 4:16Speaker 2: seventeen years old when the situation originally have happened. I
- 4:21Speaker 2: think he got convicted guilty at nineteen. He just got convicted.
- 4:25Speaker 2: It just happens two years later, two years thirty five.
- 4:28Speaker 2: At seventeen, he's he's a he's an athlete. He runs track,
- 4:32Speaker 2: so he's running track. Three point five average, great, grated,
- 4:36Speaker 2: great student, been a great student.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Track. I think basketball football one of them. He can
- 4:41Speaker 1: save somebody that was drowned. This right, right, right, record
- 4:45Speaker 1: of being a good Samaritans parents together.
- 4:49Speaker 2: His parents have never been separated. He come from a
- 4:51Speaker 2: godfearing family. So everything on paper, because you know people
- 4:55Speaker 2: love the stats, everything on paper says this is a
- 4:58Speaker 2: good citizen. He ain't been to jail, no gang affiliation,
- 5:03Speaker 2: no fights, no nothing, you know what I mean. Unlike
- 5:07Speaker 2: the man who lost his life Austin. You know there's
- 5:10Speaker 2: stuff out there. Yeah, there's stuff out there about him.
- 5:13Speaker 2: So anyway, they had they had attract me, and for
- 5:17Speaker 2: some reason, kids out in the damn storm.
- 5:21Speaker 1: It was raining.
- 5:22Speaker 2: It was storming that day, so it was raining and
- 5:25Speaker 2: kind of like when you tail Gayden. Some of the
- 5:27Speaker 2: teams had like tints where they got sheltered, and so
- 5:30Speaker 2: for whatever reason, Carmelo was near the other team's tent
- 5:34Speaker 2: and to get out the rain real quick, he went
- 5:36Speaker 2: underneath the tent and that's when Austin Austin mcalf and
- 5:43Speaker 2: his brother Hunter and some other teammates, Like I said,
- 5:48Speaker 2: I wish I was there, Like, I literally wish I
- 5:50Speaker 2: was there so I could tell you as best as
- 5:51Speaker 2: I can from a from an odd perspective. But they
- 5:54Speaker 2: told him to leave, and he stood his ground. He
- 5:58Speaker 2: was like, I'm not leaving, you know what I mean.
- 5:59Speaker 2: And if I'm gonna leave, you gonna have to make
- 6:02Speaker 2: me basically. And I've heard a lot of different versions
- 6:05Speaker 2: of this store. So I'm heard they pushed them. I
- 6:07Speaker 2: heard they tried to jump. I heard it was footage
- 6:09Speaker 2: saying that the footage shown that they were jumping him
- 6:12Speaker 2: and that's when he did the stabbing. But we in
- 6:15Speaker 2: Texas is standing your ground. This is why shout out
- 6:19Speaker 2: to the brother and the little podcast. This is why
- 6:20Speaker 2: I need the money. Like what you got to say
- 6:22Speaker 2: about this? Now, stand your ground, Like I'm like, when
- 6:26Speaker 2: people are you shouldn't be scared for your son?
- 6:28Speaker 1: How can you not be look at this, thirty five
- 6:32Speaker 1: years for defending yourself, standing your ground. If it was
- 6:35Speaker 1: four boys on one white, would it be in the
- 6:37Speaker 1: same verdict? Yeah, stand your ground.
- 6:39Speaker 2: But then it's like, I wonder if the knife is
- 6:42Speaker 2: even allowed to be on school property though I'm not sure.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was a parkat knife. They said, delight,
- 6:47Speaker 1: the knife wasn't illegal, right, so it checked all everything
- 6:51Speaker 1: he did was he didn't do nothing wrong, right, thirty
- 6:55Speaker 1: five years? Come on, I think it's traveling across state
- 6:59Speaker 1: lines killing people walking away. His hand is mental. Did
- 7:02Speaker 1: you see that video posted today? Yeah? I did.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Yeah, and I see somebody else talking about it. Yea,
- 7:08Speaker 2: everybody talking about it. Come on, bro, everybody talking about it.
- 7:11Speaker 2: So on thirty five anyway? They all we All I
- 7:15Speaker 2: really know is that Austin put his hands on Carmelo
- 7:19Speaker 2: at some point.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Carmelo was one hundred and sixty pounds. He's a big kid,
- 7:25Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony was.
- 7:26Speaker 2: I mean, Austin's a big kid.
- 7:29Speaker 1: It was too something. They said, the two brothers together,
- 7:31Speaker 1: it's five hundred pounds. They twins, five hundred pounds combined.
- 7:35Speaker 1: It they would have killed that black boy. Then what
- 7:39Speaker 1: that's the thing like, because really, truly it is like
- 7:41Speaker 1: he died anyway, thirty five years in jail. In a
- 7:46Speaker 1: sense for defending yourself. The system fell. Though. When I
- 7:50Speaker 1: hear him, I think of my son. Oh the son
- 7:53Speaker 1: is quiet, my son get good grades. My son just
- 7:56Speaker 1: want to dress, He just want to walk. What happens
- 7:59Speaker 1: if it's much. But didn't know it'd be different because
- 8:02Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's like they want
- 8:03Speaker 1: blacks to kill blacks. They want blacks to wipe out
- 8:07Speaker 1: the race. I feel, but let it would have been
- 8:10Speaker 1: a white so my son to be right next to him.
- 8:14Speaker 1: It should have sad. You hear Carl Melo Anthony, I
- 8:17Speaker 1: think of my child, Carl Melo Anthony. I think of
- 8:19Speaker 1: my niece. I mean my nephews. I think of my brother,
- 8:22Speaker 1: think of my uncles. There's no freedom. You can't even
- 8:27Speaker 1: defend yourself without Come on, and let's go back then
- 8:31Speaker 1: my set there saying self defense is really not self
- 8:33Speaker 1: defense when it's coming to us.
- 8:34Speaker 2: But you know what though, the thing about the thing
- 8:36Speaker 2: about self defense, which I mean.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Life in danger. His life was, yeah, but life was
- 8:43Speaker 1: in danger.
- 8:44Speaker 2: The only thing though, is like and by no, and listen,
- 8:47Speaker 2: please hear me like, by no stretch of the imagination
- 8:51Speaker 2: am I caping or creating like understanding for what happened
- 8:57Speaker 2: against him Austin huntered any of the other teammates. But
- 9:02Speaker 2: my thing is this, bro, like, did you have to
- 9:07Speaker 2: kill him? Though he stabbed him one time, It's not
- 9:10Speaker 2: like he repeated stab him in his chest though one time.
- 9:13Speaker 1: It's not like that's all it take. Stabbed them, that's
- 9:16Speaker 1: all it take. But and it took them full boys
- 9:18Speaker 1: to jump on him to kill him. What is he
- 9:20Speaker 1: talking about?
- 9:23Speaker 2: I didn't hear anything about them jumping him.
- 9:25Speaker 1: They said it was footage that they didn't release in
- 9:26Speaker 1: the courtrooms. That's the thing, Like, I don't know like
- 9:29Speaker 1: all of this because if that is so, if that's
- 9:32Speaker 1: all people surrounding me, I'm picking up anything to try
- 9:37Speaker 1: for sure not listen if that's the case, even if
- 9:40Speaker 1: it's two don't got to be for him and.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Not jump in general, jump in general, Like if he
- 9:46Speaker 2: be a jump in general, I understand. But my thing is,
- 9:50Speaker 2: I personally have not heard anything about him being jumped
- 9:55Speaker 2: from what I from what I was doing research on.
- 9:57Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that I it's not true.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Not that's the fact I heard was it was footage
- 10:01Speaker 1: of that. They just didn't they didn't present it. They
- 10:04Speaker 1: said they couldn't present it a quote because the camera
- 10:07Speaker 1: angle wasn't clear.
- 10:08Speaker 2: So my my thing is like, as black people, we
- 10:11Speaker 2: have to move ultra strategic, right because and what did
- 10:15Speaker 2: that look like? Try not to give them is try
- 10:19Speaker 2: not to give them a reason to use anything against you.
- 10:23Speaker 1: Just a guy that was just running under that tent.
- 10:25Speaker 2: No. I know that, I know that this is none
- 10:28Speaker 2: of it is fair. None of it is fair. But
- 10:30Speaker 2: the thing is like when you this is the thing
- 10:31Speaker 2: you killed him. Yeah, I just like I said, I
- 10:35Speaker 2: wish I was there because my question if this is
- 10:37Speaker 2: my little brother, Like I think about it, like if
- 10:39Speaker 2: I was talking to my little brother, like I'm older
- 10:41Speaker 2: or my cousin Marlon, Mama cousin Marlon. He called me,
- 10:44Speaker 2: he asked me for advice sometimes he you know, asked
- 10:46Speaker 2: me because he knows I'm his older cousin. I'm older
- 10:48Speaker 2: than him. The niggas twenty six, I'm thirty three. I
- 10:52Speaker 2: would say, listen, whatever you do, do what you can
- 10:57Speaker 2: in a way what they can't do. The worst two
- 11:00Speaker 2: even though that's not even saying much because you're black already,
- 11:03Speaker 2: but you took a life. I'm not saying I get
- 11:07Speaker 2: this kid benefit of the doubt. Bro, If you feel
- 11:09Speaker 2: like you needed to do that, okay, fine, I believe you.
- 11:12Speaker 1: For him to pull it out and do that, I
- 11:14Speaker 1: feel like his life, he felt his life was an angel.
- 11:16Speaker 2: I'm just like, fuck because the thing is, at the
- 11:18Speaker 2: end of the day, this is I didn't hear nothing
- 11:21Speaker 2: about no jumping. What I heard is that he put
- 11:24Speaker 2: his hands on you. That's the most consistent thing that
- 11:27Speaker 2: I'm hearing from the story. He put his hands on you.
- 11:30Speaker 2: And because he put his hands on you, you're retaliated. Now,
- 11:33Speaker 2: this is what you got to understand. As black people,
- 11:36Speaker 2: we're very superstitious people in the sense of like we
- 11:39Speaker 2: know that anything is possible with us, which immediately drives
- 11:43Speaker 2: up your fear, immediately drives up your reaction time, your
- 11:46Speaker 2: instinct time, because we know the possibilities is endless. When
- 11:50Speaker 2: it comes to us taking a loss, it's endless. I
- 11:53Speaker 2: can understand where you're adrenaline pumping up and you seeing
- 11:56Speaker 2: multiple people and you're like, oh no, nigga, that ain't
- 11:58Speaker 2: going down. Just like when a scary movie, Black people
- 12:01Speaker 2: always say nigga that nigga not dead. Shoot him again, Nigga,
- 12:05Speaker 2: you ain't never catching me. Nigga' gonna keeprunning, ygga'. You
- 12:07Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So, like we operate within a
- 12:09Speaker 2: certain type of way. Also, we we have a Black
- 12:11Speaker 2: people have a double consciousness of dying, like we know
- 12:15Speaker 2: how easy it is for us to die life before
- 12:18Speaker 2: it is ma, And so I can understand him thinking that.
- 12:21Speaker 2: But my thing is like at worse at worst, K
- 12:25Speaker 2: and I don't like listen, like.
- 12:27Speaker 1: They said, two niggas equal to five hundred, they not
- 12:30Speaker 1: even a nigga. They white equal to five hundred nigga
- 12:36Speaker 1: he was against.
- 12:37Speaker 2: But this is this is what I'm saying though as
- 12:38Speaker 2: far as the law go, speculation and facts, and again
- 12:43Speaker 2: I don't know. I was not there. I'm not caping
- 12:47Speaker 2: for these white niggas at all. I'm just trying to
- 12:50Speaker 2: say is that I didn't hear nothing about them jumping you.
- 12:54Speaker 2: And so I understand deep in my heart, bro, because
- 12:58Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not playing with my life with nobody,
- 13:01Speaker 2: even the police. If it's you and me, I'm going home.
- 13:06Speaker 2: I'm gonna see another day. I'm going I'm gonna see
- 13:08Speaker 2: another day. But the problem is it's not gonna be mine.
- 13:11Speaker 2: But the problem is this, though I don't know nothing
- 13:14Speaker 2: about them jumping you, and I don't know nothing about
- 13:17Speaker 2: them even hit even punching you, I didn't hear not
- 13:21Speaker 2: one thing about that.
- 13:23Speaker 1: That's what I like, I heard was they tried to jump.
- 13:27Speaker 2: But that's not consistent within the stories that I heard
- 13:30Speaker 2: through and I listened to quite a few stories a
- 13:32Speaker 2: lot of that.
- 13:33Speaker 1: They didn't a lot in the court. I'm sure like
- 13:37Speaker 1: that they didn't even want the courage in the corporal.
- 13:39Speaker 1: That was a lot.
- 13:40Speaker 2: With that being said, my thing is this, I'm not
- 13:42Speaker 2: necessarily if you feel like you had to take his life, okay, cool,
- 13:46Speaker 2: but it's like, damn the fact that you took his life.
- 13:49Speaker 2: They were as a black man, they were never going
- 13:54Speaker 2: to let you weasel out of that. I almost would
- 13:57Speaker 2: him he was in a lose lose situation anyway, I
- 13:59Speaker 2: almost would preferred you to took.
- 14:02Speaker 1: He was gonna lose lose situation. Nah, But listen, like
- 14:05Speaker 1: they would have jumped on and killed that boy, he
- 14:07Speaker 1: would have been dead. He should brandon what we stay
- 14:10Speaker 1: your ground were in Texas what's the point of saying
- 14:13Speaker 1: we stand your ground. If we in Texas.
- 14:15Speaker 2: Stay your ground, that's true, but the stay the ground
- 14:18Speaker 2: and you have the right to stand your ground.
- 14:20Speaker 1: You have to stand your ground. Mean you have the
- 14:21Speaker 1: right to defic yourself.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't just defend himself or he killed somebody.
- 14:26Speaker 1: And how many people stood the ground and killed and
- 14:28Speaker 1: kill next person.
- 14:29Speaker 2: The thing is you have to you have to match
- 14:30Speaker 2: that force with.
- 14:31Speaker 1: That forced Trayvon Martin, he killed Trayvon Martin, right, Yeah,
- 14:36Speaker 1: they called it stand your ground. Treyvonmont had no weapon
- 14:40Speaker 1: on him, was zentleman shot him? Stand your ground? If
- 14:45Speaker 1: you feel threatened, you could stand your ground. That's pretty
- 14:49Speaker 1: much saying if I punch on your face, I'm expecting
- 14:52Speaker 1: to punch back. No. If I if I punch you
- 14:54Speaker 1: and you shoot me, you stood your grounds. What's difference.
- 15:00Speaker 1: It's like, what's the difference between it that means stood
- 15:03Speaker 1: his ground?
- 15:04Speaker 2: Well, so I just I'm not one hundred percent sure
- 15:06Speaker 2: if the law works like that. Actually, like if it
- 15:09Speaker 2: works exactly like that. So I can't really speak on
- 15:11Speaker 2: that because I'm not one hundred percent sure if it
- 15:12Speaker 2: works exactly like that.
- 15:13Speaker 1: They're not a money set there said that's stand your ground.
- 15:18Speaker 1: I was going to hit him up and say, yo,
- 15:20Speaker 1: let's talk about this, like yeah, well now let's it's
- 15:23Speaker 1: staying your ground. Yeah.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Well now it's like the thing is like, if you
- 15:27Speaker 2: kill a this is the thing. If you a black person,
- 15:28Speaker 2: if you kill a white person, bro, just.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Know much it wasn't stand your ground because he killed
- 15:34Speaker 1: a white person.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Well, it's my thing is that if you kill a
- 15:36Speaker 2: white person, just know it's almost virtually impossible for you
- 15:40Speaker 2: to get the best situation out there.
- 15:41Speaker 1: Man, the white people kill you and just just say
- 15:43Speaker 1: his name.
- 15:44Speaker 2: Yeah, but we know that already though, And so my
- 15:47Speaker 2: mind is this, what would the other options? Because this
- 15:49Speaker 2: is one thing he was always there's no option. He's
- 15:53Speaker 2: in a lose little situation, bro, This he could have
- 15:55Speaker 2: I don't again, I don't want to say what he
- 15:57Speaker 2: could have did, but I guarantee you, as he's in prison,
- 16:00Speaker 2: the same the eighteen hundreds men wonna be the niggas
- 16:02Speaker 2: that keep running away from these white people. Let me
- 16:04Speaker 2: tell you something before I Before I kill a white boy,
- 16:09Speaker 2: and I might want to kill him, but I know
- 16:11Speaker 2: how it's gonna work against Oh.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Matter of fact, well not evenna cut you off. What
- 16:14Speaker 1: about that black guy forgot his name that was running
- 16:17Speaker 1: from the white man? Oh yeah, that truck ad ran. Yeah,
- 16:22Speaker 1: So what's the difference. It's another man that ran. Yeah,
- 16:28Speaker 1: what's the difference. Yeah, you black boy running, you did something?
- 16:34Speaker 2: You guilty? Ahmad Aubrey, Yeah, black you ran, you did something.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Why are you a black man running for yep?
- 16:42Speaker 1: What's murdered?
- 16:43Speaker 2: Doing a racially motivated hey crime?
- 16:45Speaker 1: While jogging.
- 16:47Speaker 2: In Georgia, three white men, who later claimed to police
- 16:50Speaker 2: that they assumed he was a burglar, pursued Aubrey in
- 16:53Speaker 2: their trucks for several minutes, using the vehicles to block
- 16:56Speaker 2: his path as he tried to run away to the man,
- 16:59Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna say that, and were armed in
- 17:00Speaker 2: one vehicle. Their neighbor was in another vehicle. After overtaking Arbury,
- 17:06Speaker 2: Travis exited his truck, pointing his weapon in Rbury. Aubrey
- 17:09Speaker 2: approached Travis in a physical altercation and food ensued, resulting
- 17:13Speaker 2: in Travis fatally shooting Rbury. Brian recorded this confrontation in
- 17:17Speaker 2: Aubrey's murder on his cell phone.
- 17:19Speaker 1: So what were we talking about? He could have ran
- 17:21Speaker 1: and did what is no right. It is no way
- 17:26Speaker 1: we escaping this shit.
- 17:27Speaker 2: Nah, but this is the thing, like in the event
- 17:30Speaker 2: that that's your son, and it's like, this is my thing?
- 17:34Speaker 1: Is this.
- 17:36Speaker 2: I understand their scenarios in life where it was like
- 17:39Speaker 2: this was all it took that that happens, that happens.
- 17:43Speaker 2: I was not there, so I can't say whether or
- 17:45Speaker 2: not this was that. But I think that in most
- 17:48Speaker 2: scenarios when a person lose their life, in most scenarios,
- 17:52Speaker 2: in most of it it's it's not like a drug
- 17:54Speaker 2: deal that went down bad or something like that. In
- 17:55Speaker 2: most scenarios, there was another option, And it's like like
- 18:00Speaker 2: I would have rather if, hypothetically, if this was another option,
- 18:05Speaker 2: which I feel like that would that that would that
- 18:07Speaker 2: that must have been.
- 18:08Speaker 1: I feel like that Black King had no adoption. I
- 18:12Speaker 1: feel like there was no adoption. Either you're gonna be,
- 18:15Speaker 1: You're going to jail all that, You're going to be
- 18:18Speaker 1: that there was no adoption, no adoption. No, I don't
- 18:22Speaker 1: think positive. I'm peaceful. I speak positivity, stop violence, this, that,
- 18:27Speaker 1: and the third. BUTLF the BB is mind senning that predictament.
- 18:30Speaker 1: It's not even stop violence, like hands down, I would
- 18:33Speaker 1: have been on trial for killing murdering twins.
- 18:37Speaker 2: You said you would have been See, that's what I'm
- 18:40Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, though, before we even get to
- 18:42Speaker 2: that point, Before we even get to that point, No.
- 18:47Speaker 1: It's not, it's not. It's not that strikes against bro.
- 18:51Speaker 2: We gotta listen, We gotta we then gotta we gotta
- 18:54Speaker 2: open up chat and asking questions and just see because again.
- 19:00Speaker 1: You said there saying the lady looked at like, what
- 19:02Speaker 1: the hell y'all they doing over here? Well, lady when
- 19:05Speaker 1: you were just walking from the ice cream shop.
- 19:08Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, But this is what I'm saying though, Like,
- 19:10Speaker 2: what I'm saying is that there is no story that
- 19:14Speaker 2: I heard. It doesn't mean it's true. There's no story
- 19:17Speaker 2: that I heard that says that them niggas was swinging
- 19:21Speaker 2: on him. That's not one story.
- 19:24Speaker 1: That's all rights, so cool say if it wasn't he
- 19:28Speaker 1: being jumped, right, even if they let's take that away, right,
- 19:31Speaker 1: even if even if they swung what he didn't have
- 19:33Speaker 1: to poke.
- 19:34Speaker 2: He didn't have to pokem If.
- 19:36Speaker 1: Full niggas is crowding around me and I feel like
- 19:42Speaker 1: my life in danger, I'm taking to their life for show.
- 19:46Speaker 1: For sure. I'm taking a life for show for show.
- 19:52Speaker 1: Flect four white people crowd around circle me. It's going
- 19:58Speaker 1: to be a bad day in New York City. You
- 20:00Speaker 1: know what it is?
- 20:00Speaker 2: Bro I just because I just so desperately want him
- 20:03Speaker 2: to do anything but go to jail. I'm just thinking, Yeah, but.
- 20:07Speaker 1: It's like he didn't break the law. He studies round,
- 20:11Speaker 1: he did not break the law.
- 20:13Speaker 2: I mean, listen, even even beyond so listen even beyond that, right,
- 20:18Speaker 2: even beyond that. The thing that's the most interesting about
- 20:20Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony's case is two other cases.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Right.
- 20:24Speaker 2: We got Kyle Rittenhouse in twenty twenty, and then we
- 20:28Speaker 2: got Case and Allison in twenty twenty two. Kyle Rittenhouse
- 20:33Speaker 2: crossed state lines with an AR fifteen, a high powered
- 20:39Speaker 2: assault rifle.
- 20:39Speaker 1: What color he was? White? All right?
- 20:41Speaker 2: What he did, ended up shooting three people, killing two
- 20:45Speaker 2: of them, and was found not guilty.
- 20:49Speaker 1: He did.
- 20:51Speaker 2: He didn't do any time because the jury believed he
- 20:53Speaker 2: acted as self defense. No the jerviysing a white man, Okay,
- 20:58Speaker 2: moving on to the next one. Tenty twenty two, we
- 21:01Speaker 2: got Casing. Allison stabbed another teenager doing a fight in
- 21:06Speaker 2: the school bathroom. He was acquitted of murder but convicted
- 21:10Speaker 2: on other charges and received a ten year sentence. Now white,
- 21:18Speaker 2: he was not white. He was not white. He was
- 21:21Speaker 2: he looked like he was a Latino was the other
- 21:24Speaker 2: way around. I mean, that's the case. And that's the
- 21:26Speaker 2: whole point, you know, because like you look at these
- 21:28Speaker 2: other scenarios that happened not that long ago, and it's like, Okay,
- 21:33Speaker 2: one guy didn't go to jail. Bro one nigga hopped
- 21:36Speaker 2: in a car, drove from one state to another state.
- 21:40Speaker 1: By driving through the states.
- 21:44Speaker 2: It's illegal to even have a weapon like that, from
- 21:47Speaker 2: what I understand it.
- 21:48Speaker 1: Is it is. And then it's illegal to drive across
- 21:52Speaker 1: different states with it too.
- 21:53Speaker 2: Like we ain't talking about a UZI or mac ten.
- 21:55Speaker 2: This nigga got some military grades. Ten is still it's
- 21:58Speaker 2: still illegal streets and it's illegal because the police don't carries.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Then you cross the states with it.
- 22:03Speaker 2: The police don't carry machinery like that. That's why it's illegal.
- 22:06Speaker 2: It's like that's the firepower that even they don't have.
- 22:09Speaker 2: They got pistols and a shotgun at most. They only
- 22:12Speaker 2: so you literally everybody in that vicinity is disadvantaged. If
- 22:17Speaker 2: you got a fucking machine gun.
- 22:19Speaker 1: You get know what I'm saying. And then he kills
- 22:21Speaker 1: he shoots three people, kills two people. He takes two lives,
- 22:27Speaker 1: two lives he takes and in the midst, and this
- 22:29Speaker 1: nigga on court in court crying.
- 22:31Speaker 2: The pictures is all over the place. He got the
- 22:33Speaker 2: real nasty cry. This nigga looks like I mean, he
- 22:38Speaker 2: was in college, so he's definitely like grown in his twenties.
- 22:40Speaker 2: But he got like a super baby face, look like
- 22:42Speaker 2: a super loser. Looked like a nigga who never got
- 22:44Speaker 2: no pussy, was never cool, never went to prom super
- 22:48Speaker 2: loser ass nigga. Niggas shot three people, killed two people,
- 22:51Speaker 2: and somehow he was able to get even go to
- 22:54Speaker 2: jail at oh walk So excuse me, he didn't go
- 22:57Speaker 2: to prison and walked and walked.
- 23:02Speaker 1: Then you got the other one. This nigga fight, bro,
- 23:04Speaker 1: You know that was the place is You beat a murder,
- 23:07Speaker 1: That's that's how you getting ten years for a murder.
- 23:10Speaker 2: Nig You beat the mur murder. You definitely beat the murder.
- 23:12Speaker 1: You beat the murder. You definitely beat the murder for sure.
- 23:15Speaker 2: That's like regularly in high school, there's no other place
- 23:17Speaker 2: you can really fight sometimes, so you gotta go in the.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Bathroomball you you threw out the murder charge. What you
- 23:21Speaker 1: just charge them for a weapon? Right DELI weapon and
- 23:26Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's a knife. It's on school property.
- 23:29Speaker 1: You stabbed him and he died. We all know Carmelo
- 23:34Speaker 1: Dan wasn't. Me personally feel he wasn't aiming to kill.
- 23:40Speaker 1: It was one pope, somebody that's trying to get theyre
- 23:44Speaker 1: going to keep stabbing you until the victim going.
- 23:46Speaker 2: I personally do, I don't. To me, it doesn't really
- 23:49Speaker 2: matter to me as much whether he tried to kill
- 23:50Speaker 2: him or not, because enough just to get up me,
- 23:53Speaker 2: I believe, And this is something that white people don't
- 23:57Speaker 2: understand about us. And listen, until you're black, you'll never
- 24:01Speaker 2: understand it. And I'm not saying I don't agree with
- 24:03Speaker 2: all black people, and I don't speak for all black people,
- 24:06Speaker 2: and all black people don't speak for me. However, that's
- 24:09Speaker 2: just something about us as black people. I've read up
- 24:13Speaker 2: enough of this situation. There's so much more I can read,
- 24:16Speaker 2: but I've read up enough to believe that if he
- 24:20Speaker 2: felt like this is what.
- 24:23Speaker 1: He needed to do, he did his thing.
- 24:25Speaker 2: I believe him. I believe him. Why do I believe
- 24:29Speaker 2: him because of what I've learned about him in this
- 24:32Speaker 2: short amount of time. It doesn't make, It doesn't make.
- 24:36Speaker 2: It's consistent. It's trying to change his life. This is
- 24:38Speaker 2: a smart person trying to change his life. You know
- 24:41Speaker 2: what I'm saying. This person is not in the streets.
- 24:43Speaker 2: He's not bullshiting.
- 24:45Speaker 1: So you own that motherfucking tent that you told me
- 24:47Speaker 1: he couldn't be up under that bitch.
- 24:49Speaker 2: You could tell me to go, that's fine, but you
- 24:51Speaker 2: can't put your hands on own.
- 24:53Speaker 1: No no no, no, no no no no.
- 24:55Speaker 2: You can tell me to go. You can't put your
- 24:57Speaker 2: hands on me though.
- 24:58Speaker 1: I get it. But even so, who is the fuck
- 25:00Speaker 1: are you to tell me I gots to go? Nigga,
- 25:02Speaker 1: we would do that, That's the thing. We would ignorant
- 25:06Speaker 1: black people. No, no, no, no, Like we don't own this team.
- 25:09Speaker 2: We in school grounds. If you want, if you bro,
- 25:12Speaker 2: if you if you playing a sport and you an athlete,
- 25:18Speaker 2: and your rival team and somebody come over from your
- 25:21Speaker 2: rival team and they in your small area, your small area,
- 25:24Speaker 2: It depends. It depends on the situation. Like the testosterone.
- 25:29Speaker 1: Nigga.
- 25:30Speaker 2: It is though, because that's a nigga. You crazy, the nigga,
- 25:32Speaker 2: just the niggs, just beating nigga up, having a spurs.
- 25:34Speaker 1: Jersey, Bro and the people that doing that. I don't
- 25:37Speaker 1: feel like those Knicks fans, Bro, it don't matter. I
- 25:39Speaker 1: don't feel like I feel like they're just ignorant people.
- 25:41Speaker 2: It doesn't matter the nigga, it doesn't matter. The point
- 25:44Speaker 2: is just ignorant people. It doesn't matter, and you can't
- 25:46Speaker 2: prove it. That's even more why it don't matter regardless.
- 25:48Speaker 1: They damn sure can't prove. But I feel like it's
- 25:49Speaker 1: just ignorant people.
- 25:51Speaker 2: The point being though people will do more for less.
- 25:54Speaker 2: That's the point. That's just the facts. And what I'm
- 25:56Speaker 2: saying is that if BRO Sports is some motherfucking competitive
- 26:00Speaker 2: if y'all don't especially if y'all don't fuck with that team,
- 26:02Speaker 2: Like if y'all don't fuck with that team, if you'll
- 26:04Speaker 2: got smoke with that team that's your rival school or
- 26:06Speaker 2: something like that. But like, get your bitch ass on.
- 26:07Speaker 2: So where nigga you trust pass the nigga territorial.
- 26:10Speaker 1: I give what you're saying, but he ain't connected next year.
- 26:13Speaker 2: But listen, what I'm trying to say, this is not
- 26:16Speaker 2: even like a debate.
- 26:17Speaker 1: This is just the fact.
- 26:18Speaker 2: What I'm saying is that almost anybody could do that
- 26:21Speaker 2: in that situation. Now typing Now, if you ask me,
- 26:25Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tell no Nigga. I'm not gonna just
- 26:27Speaker 2: blatantly telling Nigga get the fuck from around here, because
- 26:30Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like Nigga's raining.
- 26:32Speaker 1: I ain't gonna have to morrow starry as we would never
- 26:33Speaker 1: be treated equal with the color of us.
- 26:35Speaker 2: Of course not though, but that's that.
- 26:37Speaker 1: What if the white people would have rant on the
- 26:39Speaker 1: black tex and we just get the fuck out of here,
- 26:42Speaker 1: how many people would have been their handcuffs.
- 26:45Speaker 2: That's something that very well could have happened. That's why
- 26:48Speaker 2: I like, I don't even I'm not even mad at
- 26:49Speaker 2: him for telling him to leave. I'm not mad at
- 26:51Speaker 2: that because let a white country, a country fan motherfucker
- 26:55Speaker 2: come up in the black we could have we could
- 26:56Speaker 2: have first of all, we'd have got the bacon is
- 26:58Speaker 2: ass little his ass on fire. I'm like, get your
- 27:00Speaker 2: goofy stupid ass on somewhere, Nigga. That's so, that's very possible.
- 27:03Speaker 2: How many people would have got walked out of handcuffs nobody,
- 27:08Speaker 2: as long as they didn't put hands on them.
- 27:09Speaker 1: You don't gotta put hands on them, he called the police.
- 27:12Speaker 1: How many people walking out of handcuffs? You don't. You
- 27:15Speaker 1: don't gotta physically touch none of them. How many of
- 27:19Speaker 1: us walking out of handcuffs?
- 27:21Speaker 2: My point is this, they could have Definitely, I don't
- 27:24Speaker 2: mind you listen, I don't mind you telling somebody to
- 27:27Speaker 2: get out of your shit. Because it's sports, it's very territorial.
- 27:30Speaker 2: It could have happened in any sport. I've played sports before.
- 27:32Speaker 2: I know how this shit go like. It could be
- 27:34Speaker 2: like that anywhere. What you can't do you cannot put
- 27:37Speaker 2: your hands on me though that you can't do it, nigga,
- 27:39Speaker 2: you can literally, nigga.
- 27:40Speaker 1: I can literally tell you. Get the fuck from around
- 27:42Speaker 1: it happened. We're territorial. People claim shit they don't own
- 27:44Speaker 1: all the time. So if you think, if it's another
- 27:47Speaker 1: white person would have ran under the tail, that's still
- 27:49Speaker 1: been the same. What you mean if another white if
- 27:53Speaker 1: a white person from the other team would have ran
- 27:55Speaker 1: under the tent, would's still been the same.
- 27:59Speaker 2: Like ran into like Mellos teams tend.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Under the same tent that Melo Carlo under.
- 28:05Speaker 2: No, of course not, but the same of course not.
- 28:07Speaker 1: So it's not competitive. It's race. Nigga.
- 28:10Speaker 2: My If you miss it, you missing like the biggest
- 28:13Speaker 2: point that I'm trying to get what you're saying, that
- 28:15Speaker 2: this is the thing I need you to get when
- 28:17Speaker 2: it comes to us being treated unfairly. We don't even
- 28:20Speaker 2: got to speak on that. We know that already.
- 28:22Speaker 1: So it's it's not of that is the color of
- 28:24Speaker 1: his skin.
- 28:24Speaker 2: What I'm saying is you have the right to tell anybody,
- 28:27Speaker 2: no matter what your reason is.
- 28:29Speaker 1: I totally get it.
- 28:31Speaker 2: You have the right because again, niggas killing niggas for
- 28:33Speaker 2: blocks they don't own every day. Territory is a real
- 28:36Speaker 2: thing to being territorial. It's a very real thing. It's real, bro.
- 28:39Speaker 2: It's like men feel the need to protect what they
- 28:42Speaker 2: claim is theirs. And I don't give a fuck if
- 28:44Speaker 2: I don't own the deeds to this, I don't pay
- 28:45Speaker 2: taxes on these property. It don't matter, nigga, You and
- 28:47Speaker 2: our shit right. It's not not saying the nigga's right.
- 28:51Speaker 2: What I'm saying is that this is how niggas think,
- 28:53Speaker 2: and so I'm not. I'm not mad a bro if
- 28:55Speaker 2: a nigga come up in this bitch, it's different because
- 28:58Speaker 2: it's a business. But it's like, I don't have to
- 28:59Speaker 2: escort people off this property before. I don't have to
- 29:01Speaker 2: tell people you gotta go.
- 29:02Speaker 1: Now. I get what you're saying. You get what I'm saying.
- 29:05Speaker 1: But it's like, but you get what you're saying, but
- 29:07Speaker 1: I can't put my hands on that, nigga, though, yeah, absolutely,
- 29:09Speaker 1: you put your hand. That's now what's up. It's a
- 29:11Speaker 1: whole different it's a whole different ball game.
- 29:13Speaker 2: And that God, and that leads us right back to
- 29:14Speaker 2: Mellow pulling out the knife in the fucking first place.
- 29:16Speaker 2: Because with black people, Nigga, you don't. You don't understand
- 29:20Speaker 2: how this looked to me. You're white, I'm black, and
- 29:24Speaker 2: it's multiple of y'all, and one thing I know for
- 29:26Speaker 2: And also, Nigga, I'm a young lion. Nigga, I'm a
- 29:30Speaker 2: young lion. So you you you can't think I'm gonna
- 29:33Speaker 2: let you just just just just rum me up out
- 29:36Speaker 2: of here. Nigga's not happening.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Nigga.
- 29:37Speaker 2: I'm staying in my ground in the spiritual way. Nigga,
- 29:39Speaker 2: I ain't pussy. What's up, nigga, I'm not pussy.
- 29:42Speaker 1: Nigga A good kid.
- 29:43Speaker 2: I'm a young lion Nigga. It's like, I don't give
- 29:45Speaker 2: a fuck what y'all don't give a fuck. How tall
- 29:46Speaker 2: y'all niggas. I beat all y'all asses. That's how black
- 29:48Speaker 2: people is a kid.
- 29:50Speaker 1: You know what I mean? When you scared anything, anything.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Nigga, the scared niggas the most dangerous nigg in the room. Exactly,
- 29:57Speaker 2: He's the most dangerous nigg in the room.
- 29:59Speaker 1: I feel like the back that nighte hour, I had
- 30:01Speaker 1: to be something, had to be something. But no matter what,
- 30:07Speaker 1: we always want to be guilty though, Nigga.
- 30:09Speaker 2: If I was there, I'd have broke that shit up
- 30:12Speaker 2: like I broke up every fight I ever witnessed in
- 30:14Speaker 2: my life.
- 30:15Speaker 1: Down there, Yeah, you would have broken up and been
- 30:16Speaker 1: in jail. You put your hands on a white boy, Nah,
- 30:19Speaker 1: I'd have broken up. You put your hands on a
- 30:21Speaker 1: white boy, I'd have broken up.
- 30:23Speaker 2: Now. We would have been free wolf, free.
- 30:27Speaker 1: Wolf wolf, God forbid. Please, I don't want to be done.
- 30:29Speaker 1: Free me step in there like hey, it ain't worth it.
- 30:32Speaker 1: You just touch a privileged white kid. I ain't got
- 30:35Speaker 1: to touch him. You going to jail.
- 30:37Speaker 2: I ain't gonna touch him. I just gotta get my mans.
- 30:39Speaker 1: You gave words. Oh he threatened me.
- 30:42Speaker 2: That's fine though, because you know the difference is nobody
- 30:44Speaker 2: died though, you know what I mean, that's different. Like
- 30:46Speaker 2: the thing is, it's it's things can always get bad
- 30:51Speaker 2: for us. This is what I'm trying to to say.
- 30:54Speaker 2: This is what I tried to say in the beginning
- 30:55Speaker 2: of our conversation. Things can always get bad. It's about
- 31:00Speaker 2: mitigating things getting worse with black people. That's what it's about.
- 31:03Speaker 2: That's why I'm like, I'm saying like there. I know
- 31:06Speaker 2: there was another option. It doesn't matter at this point,
- 31:08Speaker 2: but like another option could have been like because you bro,
- 31:12Speaker 2: this is the thing, because you were young lion and
- 31:15Speaker 2: you just got that in you, like nigga. I'm not
- 31:17Speaker 2: I'm not pushing nigga. You not making me go nowhere
- 31:19Speaker 2: because it's a man. It's like, it's the it's the
- 31:21Speaker 2: pride of it all. It's like, I'm not letting you
- 31:22Speaker 2: do me like that.
- 31:24Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe what if he wasn't trying to
- 31:26Speaker 1: let his nuts hang.
- 31:28Speaker 2: He was trying to let his nut hang the minute
- 31:30Speaker 2: that the niggas tried to I'm not like, again, we.
- 31:34Speaker 1: Don't like what if he wasn't trying to let his
- 31:37Speaker 1: nuts hang? What if it was Really I'm defending myself.
- 31:43Speaker 2: I believe Carmelo, That's all I gotta say. Absolutely, I
- 31:46Speaker 2: believe Carmelo without a doubt. I don't want you to
- 31:48Speaker 2: get nothing misunderstood.
- 31:50Speaker 1: We definitely on the.
- 31:51Speaker 2: Same Yeah, I'm talking about the people listening.
- 31:54Speaker 1: We definitely on the same thing.
- 31:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want you to.
- 31:56Speaker 1: Get nothing misunderstood. He's just not me, just trying to say,
- 31:58Speaker 1: maybe it would have been another way. Wish King would
- 32:01Speaker 1: not been in this situation.
- 32:02Speaker 2: Man, Like anything but that, anything but that, because now
- 32:06Speaker 2: you're doing thirty five years and this motherfucker and it's like, granted,
- 32:09Speaker 2: I'll say this, bro, at least you coming home.
- 32:15Speaker 1: At least at least you coming home and thirty much
- 32:18Speaker 1: can happen in thirty five years don't matter. You can
- 32:20Speaker 1: come home to nothing. It don't matter, it does, It
- 32:23Speaker 1: does not matter why, it don't matter because you're coming
- 32:26Speaker 1: home to white though. It don't matter what in thirty
- 32:29Speaker 1: five years his mother and father might not even be allot.
- 32:32Speaker 1: That's a fact. Nigga. Who he's coming home to, he
- 32:35Speaker 1: has a chance. It's like he's better off being dead.
- 32:37Speaker 1: No what that's I know people that come home and
- 32:41Speaker 1: sat there and said he was better off in jail.
- 32:43Speaker 2: And there's some people who got it. This is a
- 32:45Speaker 2: niggas just in here. The other day, Nigga did forty.
- 32:47Speaker 2: Nigga came out, He's smiling, skin looked good.
- 32:49Speaker 1: I did forty, right, did forty? But what's his support system? Like,
- 32:52Speaker 1: what's his background?
- 32:53Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 32:54Speaker 1: Like I said, he probably what if you got to
- 32:55Speaker 1: support system.
- 32:57Speaker 2: What I'm saying is that it's about perspective thirty everybody day.
- 33:01Speaker 1: I can't at least I'm coming home. I gotta coming home.
- 33:04Speaker 2: Deep, Nigga, you don't got no fucking choices.
- 33:06Speaker 1: Nigga. Oh, you ain't got no choices. It's either you, nigga,
- 33:10Speaker 1: it's up to listen. This is real life. My nigga
- 33:13Speaker 1: is twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen.
- 33:16Speaker 2: Don't come out of grown ass man.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Thirty five years from now? Who is he talking about?
- 33:21Speaker 1: Grown ass man? What is he talking about?
- 33:24Speaker 2: He gonna be a grown ass man, I'm talking about
- 33:26Speaker 2: grown ass man doing white starting his life over. But
- 33:29Speaker 2: you see what Wallow did, yo, And I'm not saying
- 33:33Speaker 2: that's the same for everybody, but I'm saying, like at
- 33:36Speaker 2: least he coming home to Austin did. There is no
- 33:40Speaker 2: coming home for him. His life is over. He don't
- 33:44Speaker 2: get to pick This is the thing, mellow, get to
- 33:46Speaker 2: come home. Somebody gonna be alive. He get to pick
- 33:49Speaker 2: up his life with them. He get to and he
- 33:52Speaker 2: gonna have money waiting on him. You shouldn't he trying
- 33:54Speaker 2: to say, didn't have a chance. No, nigga, what I'm
- 33:58Speaker 2: saying is is that compare the too. I'd rather be
- 34:01Speaker 2: doing thirty five in jail than be dead.
- 34:03Speaker 1: Shit. This is good because when you get out, just
- 34:07Speaker 1: like the central part five, when you gotta make it out,
- 34:10Speaker 1: when you get out, he gonna get out, got to
- 34:12Speaker 1: make it.
- 34:12Speaker 2: He gonna get out its walls on, he gonna get out.
- 34:14Speaker 1: You know what. You know, w'o gonna protect that, nigga.
- 34:16Speaker 1: The Muslims, the Muslims that the Muslims say that they.
- 34:21Speaker 2: Don't gonna protect it now, but he is.
- 34:23Speaker 1: Look at the name, especially because the nature of the case,
- 34:25Speaker 1: I totally get it.
- 34:26Speaker 2: And you know how many people putting money on his
- 34:29Speaker 2: books and making sure his family fit is family straight.
- 34:32Speaker 1: Absolutely, he gonna he gonna. Oh and nigga, they going
- 34:34Speaker 1: for an appill. Yeah, I hope they're going for in
- 34:38Speaker 1: a pill and I hope they get it. But one
- 34:41Speaker 1: thing for show his life, his life was just starting.
- 34:44Speaker 2: Listen, brother, you are in jail. That's the facts.
- 34:47Speaker 1: You in jail. Nigga life was just starting.
- 34:50Speaker 2: You in jail, bro, Like bro, yet, no, no, I'm sorry,
- 34:53Speaker 2: You're not in jail. You in prison, bro, and that's
- 34:56Speaker 2: what it is now.
- 34:57Speaker 1: You in hell.
- 34:59Speaker 2: So now you gotta make the most of that ship
- 35:02Speaker 2: you have to.
- 35:04Speaker 1: Like, yeah, people can say the Muslims are gonna hold
- 35:07Speaker 1: it down, this, that and the third, but you know
- 35:09Speaker 1: how what them guards would do to him? Of course Texas.
- 35:12Speaker 1: That shit is racist, of course, But you know what though.
- 35:16Speaker 2: It's just what it is. And this is the thing,
- 35:19Speaker 2: like bro, Like I could I could almost cry thinking
- 35:21Speaker 2: about this right now because he didn't sign off for this, bro,
- 35:23Speaker 2: because it's like, my nigga, this is what it is now,
- 35:27Speaker 2: Like we can't even play about this no more. Ain't
- 35:30Speaker 2: no cute shit ain't no sexy shit. You're in prison now,
- 35:35Speaker 2: you locked away, life over nigga. You you in there
- 35:40Speaker 2: with the were in there with the real monster. That's
- 35:43Speaker 2: thirty five years. Yeah, he's he got to coming home date.
- 35:47Speaker 2: He might come home to money, But what the fuck
- 35:49Speaker 2: is that when your.
- 35:50Speaker 1: Life is bro?
- 35:52Speaker 2: His life not over, Bro.
- 35:53Speaker 1: Nineteen he coming home with fifty five? You know you
- 35:56Speaker 1: know fifty five fifty Bro? No, come on, bro, many
- 36:02Speaker 1: men fifty five fifty four see fifty five fifty fall
- 36:08Speaker 1: Many men.
- 36:10Speaker 2: Have done this, Bro. It's the best you can do
- 36:14Speaker 2: with your deck of cards and no funny shit, fifty fifty.
- 36:20Speaker 2: If you really feel like life over kill yourself the nigga,
- 36:24Speaker 2: so you walking through hell kill yourself. Then if you
- 36:27Speaker 2: really feel because you can always do that, that's something
- 36:29Speaker 2: you can do.
- 36:29Speaker 1: Because like, allright, like thirty five years. If he going
- 36:32Speaker 1: in because it's gonna take time for that pill to
- 36:34Speaker 1: come in, oh yeah, oh yeah, hell non but night
- 36:38Speaker 1: hell no, yeah, not gonna half overnight. But the time
- 36:41Speaker 1: from now to that pill going in is he's going
- 36:44Speaker 1: to be faced with hell. BRO, to the point he
- 36:48Speaker 1: might feel like the best option is to be dead.
- 36:51Speaker 2: I pray that mellow like many men before him figure
- 36:58Speaker 2: out how to get his bop, how to get his
- 37:00Speaker 2: groove while he's there. Many men, many men have figured
- 37:05Speaker 2: this out. Listen, hell is hell. That's the thing, Like
- 37:09Speaker 2: I speaking of absolutes, bro, hell is hell. We can't
- 37:12Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. We can't change that. It's like,
- 37:14Speaker 2: let's just be, let's be for real. Fuck all the
- 37:16Speaker 2: Q compis said, Nigga, you in prison. It's prison.
- 37:19Speaker 1: It's a kid that ran tracked it. Come with prison.
- 37:23Speaker 1: It is saving people. Three point man. This whole kid
- 37:26Speaker 1: life gotta change. This is what it is, a whole
- 37:28Speaker 1: different master. I don't got it at though. Some people
- 37:32Speaker 1: don't got it down. As a father, my son don't
- 37:34Speaker 1: got it at him. Yeah you don't. Yeah, my son
- 37:37Speaker 1: will fold if he had to walk through them jail wards.
- 37:41Speaker 2: Yeah fold. Like, but you know what, And.
- 37:45Speaker 1: I see my son going in them. I see when
- 37:47Speaker 1: Carmelo going in themselves taking that much shot.
- 37:49Speaker 2: I see my child. But unfortunately, though, Bro, I see
- 37:53Speaker 2: my child. As true as that is, it don't matter
- 37:56Speaker 2: right now. And that's the thing, Like to me, I'm
- 38:00Speaker 2: I'm like this. I want the best for Melo. I
- 38:05Speaker 2: need you to make do what you gotta do. But
- 38:07Speaker 2: I now need him to make the most with the
- 38:09Speaker 2: situation that nobody can change for you as of right now.
- 38:12Speaker 2: It's hell you in there with the trenches. It's a
- 38:15Speaker 2: whole culture, it's a whole system. I need you to
- 38:18Speaker 2: do what's necessary because when you get out, you still
- 38:22Speaker 2: got life to live. You can do, Nigga, you still
- 38:25Speaker 2: got at least when you get out, you still you
- 38:28Speaker 2: can possibly live another thirty forty.
- 38:30Speaker 1: Years better Obio die in there.
- 38:32Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of niggas don't. It's some niggas do,
- 38:36Speaker 2: but a lot of niggas don't. And I don't look
- 38:38Speaker 2: at the cup like it's half empty. I've never done that.
- 38:40Speaker 2: I'm not a pessimist. I'm an optimist.
- 38:42Speaker 1: I'll get you. I get it, you know.
- 38:43Speaker 2: And the thing is, Nigga, you can nigga. You can
- 38:45Speaker 2: come out. You can come out. You can still have
- 38:46Speaker 2: a kid, you can still go see Paris, you can
- 38:49Speaker 2: still travel the world, you can still get married, you
- 38:52Speaker 2: can still ball out of control, you can still get
- 38:54Speaker 2: a house, you can still start a foundation, you can you.
- 38:57Speaker 1: Can do a lot. You can do a lot. And
- 39:00Speaker 1: to be frank with you, a lot life. Don't gotta
- 39:02Speaker 1: stop while you're in there. I'm write books, nigga. You
- 39:06Speaker 1: can write, nigga, you can write books, right books. You
- 39:08Speaker 1: can think of the typical. Nah, he got mad when
- 39:11Speaker 1: his freedom, what he deserves.
- 39:14Speaker 2: What he gonna What we're gonna do about that? Now, See,
- 39:16Speaker 2: we can't do so while we talk about that, he can.
- 39:18Speaker 1: So we can't say what he could do in jail. Bro,
- 39:20Speaker 1: that's just the whole difference. No, we can. We know.
- 39:22Speaker 2: This is what we can't talk about. We can't talk
- 39:24Speaker 2: about what you talking about because we can't do shit
- 39:26Speaker 2: about that.
- 39:27Speaker 1: We can't do it on the outside. We can't doing
- 39:29Speaker 1: I'm not I can't do shit for him. I'm talking
- 39:31Speaker 1: about what he can do for himself, if he can
- 39:32Speaker 1: say itself, he got life.
- 39:34Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no no no listen, listen, I'm
- 39:37Speaker 2: talking how you think he gonna make it home. It's
- 39:38Speaker 2: about what he do for himself.
- 39:40Speaker 1: Bro. Niggas is dying in jail every day. Bro.
- 39:43Speaker 2: See niggas dying the hood every day too. What I'm
- 39:46Speaker 2: saying is you get what you're saying. You gotta do
- 39:48Speaker 2: what you can. I don't want to talk about is
- 39:50Speaker 2: what he can do for himself.
- 39:51Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about nothing that. I don'
- 39:52Speaker 1: feel like this, but but not much. Do what you can?
- 39:57Speaker 2: Who gets a fuck?
- 40:00Speaker 1: Sound good? Bro?
- 40:01Speaker 2: You was a pessimist. You're literally aist. Good Bro, you're
- 40:05Speaker 2: a pessimist, and you're looking at it half empty because
- 40:08Speaker 2: at least with your.
- 40:09Speaker 1: Way is like I'm thinking logic bro. No, nigga, I'm
- 40:12Speaker 1: looking at it logically. I'm facing reality. Bro.
- 40:15Speaker 2: No, you're not facing reality. The reality is he has options.
- 40:18Speaker 2: What's his options to make the most of the situation,
- 40:21Speaker 2: and what's that to stay out of trouble as best
- 40:24Speaker 2: as you possibly can. It's best.
- 40:27Speaker 1: How do that look? It looked?
- 40:29Speaker 2: How Texas, my nigga? It looks however it need to look?
- 40:34Speaker 1: Man, That man gonna go through a hard going.
- 40:37Speaker 2: I don't I don't speak that against you, my brother.
- 40:39Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't speak that again. But you
- 40:42Speaker 2: are though, But you are though. We face a reality, Bro,
- 40:45Speaker 2: it's not it don't gotta be his reality.
- 40:47Speaker 1: Bro. If I grew up in the hood, Bro, I
- 40:49Speaker 1: see what's going on. I've been in here, I've seen
- 40:51Speaker 1: how shit go.
- 40:52Speaker 2: What I'm saying is they.
- 40:53Speaker 1: Don't give a fuck about you. Then he killed a
- 40:56Speaker 1: white boy, did They don't give a funk about him.
- 40:59Speaker 2: It's niggas in there who did way worse.
- 41:00Speaker 1: And it's and it's white like the same way people say,
- 41:02Speaker 1: oh the Muslims is that white Arien nation right there?
- 41:05Speaker 2: You think I don't know that. You think I don't
- 41:07Speaker 2: know that, not only.
- 41:08Speaker 1: The white area nation. It's CEO's waiting for this thing.
- 41:10Speaker 1: I don't know that. Come on that day.
- 41:12Speaker 2: Come on, he gotta make the most of it.
- 41:15Speaker 1: You've seen the monk shots.
- 41:15Speaker 2: You was crying too, right, Yeah, he gotta make the
- 41:19Speaker 2: most of it. That's it. And the thing is like,
- 41:23Speaker 2: that's it.
- 41:24Speaker 1: What else?
- 41:26Speaker 2: Because at least my way, I'm saying, Nigga, I see light.
- 41:29Speaker 2: It's not the brightest light, but it's light. And the
- 41:32Speaker 2: light is You're light not supposed to look like my light. Nigga,
- 41:34Speaker 2: I'm free, you in prison, your light. Absolutely, this is
- 41:38Speaker 2: the You need to make the best of your situation.
- 41:42Speaker 2: What you talk about is that nigga not he might
- 41:44Speaker 2: not make it.
- 41:44Speaker 1: D D D.
- 41:45Speaker 2: I don't want to hear all that, bro. Survive and no,
- 41:49Speaker 2: just survive. I want to hear about you might not
- 41:52Speaker 2: you might not make it. You go to the army,
- 41:53Speaker 2: you might not make it. Yeah, listen, you choose to
- 41:56Speaker 2: sign off for the army. The difference is this, you
- 41:59Speaker 2: make the best of your sit situation. When you win
- 42:01Speaker 2: the hood, you make the best of your situation. Choose
- 42:03Speaker 2: to be on that corner. Everybody not choosing to be
- 42:06Speaker 2: on the corner, nigga when you live in the hood.
- 42:07Speaker 2: Sometimes you just live in the hood. You don't have
- 42:09Speaker 2: to be in the streets to die from the streets.
- 42:11Speaker 1: You don't have to. But we said territory. You choose
- 42:14Speaker 1: to be on that corner to fight for that territory.
- 42:16Speaker 2: No, no, no, we was talking about territory. When we talked
- 42:18Speaker 2: about a nigga standing his ground. I was talking about
- 42:20Speaker 2: just walking every day. Hood shit, like just walking. Niggas
- 42:22Speaker 2: die every day, So I just walk in your life. Yes, civilians,
- 42:27Speaker 2: everybody not a gang banger. Yeah, you can't stop that.
- 42:29Speaker 2: It's matter of fact. It's more regular. It's like the
- 42:32Speaker 2: game bangers in the hood is a small amount compared
- 42:34Speaker 2: to everybody else. It's a small amount of game bangers.
- 42:37Speaker 2: Game bankers don't outweigh civilians in the hood, and no
- 42:39Speaker 2: hood in no hood and no hood in no hood
- 42:45Speaker 2: in no hood because if they nigga, if there was
- 42:47Speaker 2: more gag bangers in the hood, then there was regular civilians.
- 42:50Speaker 2: It would be way crazy because game bangers broke ass
- 42:54Speaker 2: niggas anyway, and everybody, just because you game banging don't
- 42:56Speaker 2: mean you getting money. Most niggas don't even know how
- 42:58Speaker 2: to follow a system where money is actually flowing through
- 43:03Speaker 2: funk out of here. So again, it's the moms and
- 43:05Speaker 2: it's the people who actually working hard and abiding by
- 43:07Speaker 2: the law that get these broke ass gang banging as
- 43:09Speaker 2: niggas a place to fucking stay in the fucking first place.
- 43:12Speaker 1: These niggas be talking about something. I mean this, nigga.
- 43:14Speaker 2: You broke and you dusty absolutely and you got your
- 43:17Speaker 2: little gun.
- 43:17Speaker 1: Nigga, you can't file, you can't file taxes, you can't
- 43:20Speaker 1: buy a property. You not supreme, My nigga, can't be Patty.
- 43:23Speaker 1: I agree with you that you get what I'm saying.
- 43:25Speaker 1: You're not supreme.
- 43:26Speaker 2: So again, what I'm saying is that you gotta make
- 43:28Speaker 2: the most of your situation. You gotta listen now, mellow,
- 43:33Speaker 2: You're gonna have to learn how to move, bro. I
- 43:35Speaker 2: can't go here. I'm not safe there. I can't spend
- 43:38Speaker 2: this long in the shower. I'm not safe there. I
- 43:40Speaker 2: gotta look out for this nigga. I know that these
- 43:43Speaker 2: niggas got the power to move certain things. Okay, cool,
- 43:46Speaker 2: I gotta be with these people. I gotta make this happen.
- 43:48Speaker 2: And I gotta I gotta swear allegiance to these niggas.
- 43:51Speaker 2: I gotta get these niggas a little bit. I gotta
- 43:53Speaker 2: you gotta do what you gotta do. Now. That's the
- 43:56Speaker 2: only option, sa is it?
- 43:58Speaker 1: Though? Bro? I never said it was.
- 44:00Speaker 2: It sound easy though. I never said it was easy.
- 44:03Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is that, Mello, this is what
- 44:05Speaker 2: I want you to come home. No, absolutely, I don't
- 44:08Speaker 2: care about nothing else. You know, you know I don't
- 44:10Speaker 2: care about nothing else.
- 44:11Speaker 1: I want that black man to come home. I want
- 44:13Speaker 1: you to come home. Absolutely.
- 44:14Speaker 2: What's the best thing we can do to make sure
- 44:16Speaker 2: that happen. I ain't say it was gonna be easy.
- 44:19Speaker 2: I ain't say you wasn't gonna cry. I know you're
- 44:21Speaker 2: gonna miss your mommy, nigga. You gonna miss mommy. You're
- 44:24Speaker 2: gonna miss Mommy's food, You're gonna miss daddy. You're gonna
- 44:27Speaker 2: miss your little girlfriend. You gonna miss your cousin. You
- 44:29Speaker 2: gonn miss your brother, You missing Freedo nigga. You're gonna
- 44:32Speaker 2: miss everything.
- 44:34Speaker 1: You're gonna miss Instagram, social media, getting your locks done.
- 44:37Speaker 2: You gonna miss that ship Freedom.
- 44:39Speaker 1: You're gonna miss that ship. I know that. I know
- 44:42Speaker 1: you gonna be in pain. Brother.
- 44:43Speaker 2: The best thing I could tell you, I ain't even
- 44:45Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. The best thing I could
- 44:46Speaker 2: tell you keep your head in the motherfucking books, nigga.
- 44:50Speaker 2: Get you a fucking degree. Learn you some shit, my nigga.
- 44:52Speaker 1: Get you become an attorney in that bitch nigga because
- 44:55Speaker 1: you can, Because you can definitely be at Joe House lawyer. Nigga.
- 45:01Speaker 2: Even if you can't change your case, go in there
- 45:03Speaker 2: and find some like minded niggas and help them change theirs.
- 45:06Speaker 2: Get your mind right, build your mind up, nigga, Get swollen, nigga,
- 45:11Speaker 2: Learn my nigga, because life don't gotta stop. Because the
- 45:14Speaker 2: devil wants you to think that. It's like now, you
- 45:16Speaker 2: and the whole nigga, it's over for you. You know,
- 45:18Speaker 2: the niggas who think like that, don't leave that bitch.
- 45:22Speaker 2: The niggas who feel like that, it's like, oh, it's
- 45:24Speaker 2: as worse as it get.
- 45:26Speaker 1: I'm in hell.
- 45:27Speaker 2: It's like they stay there. They end up assimilating into
- 45:30Speaker 2: the flow of the system in a certain kind. And
- 45:31Speaker 2: sometimes you get pushed into it, but them niggas end
- 45:34Speaker 2: up staying because they accept it. You can't change nothing
- 45:37Speaker 2: you accept. That's all I'm saying is so, what I'm
- 45:41Speaker 2: saying is like, my nigga, you have very limited options. Now,
- 45:45Speaker 2: I would advise you, we're talking about what's advisable. Please
- 45:50Speaker 2: play your hands to the best of your ability. Brother, please,
- 45:53Speaker 2: And I can't promise you you're not gonna get hurt,
- 45:55Speaker 2: but you might not die. Make your home, nigga. Khalif
- 45:59Speaker 2: Browder made it home, and then he took his life
- 46:01Speaker 2: shortly after. I'm not saying it's gonna be easy. He
- 46:04Speaker 2: had spent as much Simon Kalif. Yeah, it don't matter
- 46:08Speaker 2: about how much time he spent.
- 46:09Speaker 1: It's the time. It's the quality of time he had
- 46:11Speaker 1: in there. And then on Rockets Island has two different
- 46:14Speaker 1: playing fields. Jelous yell in prison away. Yeah, so I
- 46:17Speaker 1: would never take that away. So let's let the script,
- 46:20Speaker 1: What about the Cyrus that rant.
- 46:24Speaker 2: So Cyrus's situation is just so so fucked up. So
- 46:28Speaker 2: Cyrus went into so this is in South Carolina.
- 46:31Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 46:32Speaker 2: Cyrus went into a corner store gas station to get
- 46:36Speaker 2: some water. As soon as he went into the building,
- 46:39Speaker 2: the store clerk which is a woman, right, it's the
- 46:43Speaker 2: store clerk, which the woman, she told him to take
- 46:46Speaker 2: his bag off and store they do that in store
- 46:49Speaker 2: something they do that sometimes, you know what I mean?
- 46:51Speaker 2: So they get right, But yeah, of course it doesn't.
- 46:54Speaker 2: But people still I can understand. Also, I don't expect
- 46:57Speaker 2: people to treat me fairly when I know these people
- 47:01Speaker 2: have the po niggas, niggas racially profile people.
- 47:05Speaker 1: We know this on absolutely.
- 47:06Speaker 2: Indians do it all type of difference our groups of people,
- 47:09Speaker 2: Mexicans do it, and then there's Mexicans who don't. There's
- 47:12Speaker 2: Indians don't, there's Asians that don't. There's white people who don't.
- 47:14Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But anyway that don't. You
- 47:16Speaker 2: know what I mean, you never know what you're gonna get.
- 47:18Speaker 2: That's the thing is a black person.
- 47:20Speaker 1: Depending on like what you're walking into, you never know
- 47:22Speaker 1: what you're gonna.
- 47:23Speaker 2: Get that's what I mean about black That's what I
- 47:25Speaker 2: mean about Black people having a double consciousness. We have
- 47:27Speaker 2: an ability to uh to to to swing in and
- 47:32Speaker 2: out of what's going on at all times, nigga, because
- 47:35Speaker 2: we never believed in the idea of a society where
- 47:39Speaker 2: I'm not in danger. Possibly I'm in danger right now, nigga. Absolutely,
- 47:43Speaker 2: I'm in danger right now. Every day you woke up
- 47:46Speaker 2: the house, these niggas boom come through. Oh we heard
- 47:48Speaker 2: a disturbance, you know, disturbance. Oh way, you look like
- 47:51Speaker 2: the Oh boom boo boom, boom boom.
- 47:53Speaker 1: I'm dead. I'm in danger right now. That's just the facts.
- 47:54Speaker 1: I'm black. Every day we walk up the house, I say, God,
- 47:57Speaker 1: please just bring me back. Please. You never know what's
- 48:00Speaker 1: going to happen. So listen.
- 48:02Speaker 2: They're telling her to put his bag down. He put
- 48:03Speaker 2: his back down. As soon as he get into the store.
- 48:08Speaker 2: A lady come from around the counter and start just like,
- 48:11Speaker 2: don't be a minute, a minute aside whichever one it is. Yeah,
- 48:16Speaker 2: she making this scene like she's keeping herself busy looking
- 48:18Speaker 2: through stuff, but she keeping an eye on him though.
- 48:20Speaker 1: Try to see if he's gonna pocket anything.
- 48:22Speaker 2: Right keeping eye and you can see all of this
- 48:24Speaker 2: is now Unlike these other cases, there's surveillance footage of this.
- 48:31Speaker 2: He picking waters, He take a couple of waters, and
- 48:34Speaker 2: then for whatever reason, he put the waters back. She's
- 48:38Speaker 2: right over his shoulder. He not even looking at her.
- 48:40Speaker 1: He don't even know.
- 48:41Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure he knows, but he don't see
- 48:43Speaker 2: she keeping an eye on him. He put everything back,
- 48:46Speaker 2: and then he starts to leave. She comes from she
- 48:49Speaker 2: looking right at the niggad just like I'm looking at you.
- 48:51Speaker 2: She looking right at that nigga. Then she like follow
- 48:54Speaker 2: him around and then he going back to the front
- 48:58Speaker 2: so he can pick up his back and he can leave.
- 48:59Speaker 2: And that's when the door clerk, the woman, she stop
- 49:01Speaker 2: him and she like, you know, there's no audio in
- 49:03Speaker 2: the surveillance footage, but she's like yo, Like you could
- 49:07Speaker 2: tell she's saying something like yo, like did you take anything?
- 49:09Speaker 2: And so he looking at her, like you could see
- 49:11Speaker 2: his hands going up like like I don't got nothing,
- 49:13Speaker 2: like shrugging, and then he like he started pattering his sweater.
- 49:17Speaker 2: He like like trying to show you, like I don't
- 49:21Speaker 2: got nothing. She not convinced, though, you can tell she looking.
- 49:23Speaker 2: She unconvinced. He grab his bag slow, regular, real regular,
- 49:29Speaker 2: real regular, like a nigga who didn't do anything. Grab
- 49:33Speaker 2: his bag, leave the door, slowly walk away. The door
- 49:39Speaker 2: is like at the end of the building. So he
- 49:42Speaker 2: leaves the building and then he makes a right and
- 49:44Speaker 2: he's walking around the circumference of the building, which is
- 49:46Speaker 2: like it's a big building.
- 49:48Speaker 1: He makes it.
- 49:49Speaker 2: He finally makes it to the edge of the building.
- 49:51Speaker 2: Before he he gets ready to walk into the parking
- 49:53Speaker 2: lot to leave, but Rick Chow and his son Andy Child,
- 49:59Speaker 2: they start chasing him, so they leave after him. He
- 50:02Speaker 2: had already been gone for probably like maybe like thirty
- 50:05Speaker 2: seconds or something twenty seconds or something like that. Then
- 50:07Speaker 2: Rick Child and Andy Child leave and then they start
- 50:10Speaker 2: following him. As soon as Cyrus turned his head back
- 50:15Speaker 2: and he realized that they chasing him, book It start running,
- 50:19Speaker 2: book It bro running so fast. In the video right
- 50:25Speaker 2: before he cut off, it's right before he cut off,
- 50:29Speaker 2: you can see his shoe flying the air. That's how
- 50:31Speaker 2: fast he running. He running so fast his shoe fly off.
- 50:33Speaker 2: Shoes flew flew off. There's no more video after that.
- 50:39Speaker 2: But then now we get into Rick Child shooting Cyrus
- 50:43Speaker 2: in his back. H Then it becomes a conversation about
- 50:49Speaker 2: Andy allegedly because I heard his testimony. Andy said he
- 50:53Speaker 2: caught up because his dad is old.
- 50:55Speaker 1: Yo, because I heard that too. What if the sun?
- 50:57Speaker 1: They like, do you think the sun shot out and
- 51:00Speaker 1: the father just took the blame for it? Hold on,
- 51:02Speaker 1: did you you call me? You call me? No? Oh,
- 51:07Speaker 1: my man? He called me? Uh yeah, I don't know.
- 51:18Speaker 1: That's a good question. Did he have a gun on him? Who? Cyrus?
- 51:26Speaker 1: That's what they're saying. I heard he had a gun
- 51:27Speaker 1: on him.
- 51:29Speaker 2: That's what they say. That's what they say. You know
- 51:33Speaker 2: what I mean, that's what they say.
- 51:36Speaker 1: So where in this case showed that these two Asian
- 51:45Speaker 1: men was innocent?
- 51:49Speaker 2: You said, where in the case, rick y'all was his
- 51:58Speaker 2: verdict was not guilty because it was self defense? What
- 52:03Speaker 2: was self defense if he was running? The self defense
- 52:07Speaker 2: is based on Cyrus having a weapon. Now, based off
- 52:12Speaker 2: of what Andy Child said, Andy Child said he was
- 52:15Speaker 2: running and he was running faster than his dad. His
- 52:17Speaker 2: dad is sixty, so he's running faster. And then Andy
- 52:22Speaker 2: allegedly said that he caught up to Cyrus and then
- 52:26Speaker 2: Cyrus flashed the gun at him. Andy said he put
- 52:28Speaker 2: his hands up like don't shoot, don't shoot. And then
- 52:32Speaker 2: shortly after his father, Rick caught up to Andy, and
- 52:36Speaker 2: then and then Andy told him he got a gun.
- 52:39Speaker 2: He got a gun, and so then allegedly Rick was like, like,
- 52:44Speaker 2: let me pull mys out, well, like put the gun
- 52:46Speaker 2: down or whatever, like put the gun down, put the
- 52:48Speaker 2: gun down. And I guess he didn't. I don't believe
- 52:51Speaker 2: any of this.
- 52:51Speaker 1: First, Well, tell me if I got a gun out
- 52:53Speaker 1: like this and somebody's putting gun out, I'm not gonna
- 52:56Speaker 1: pull that drim.
- 53:00Speaker 2: The thing is, Rick never had a gun pointed at him.
- 53:05Speaker 2: The reason why he got off on self defense, allegedly
- 53:08Speaker 2: is because protecting somebody like your family member is the
- 53:12Speaker 2: same thing.
- 53:13Speaker 1: He left the crime. It ain't self defense. It is
- 53:17Speaker 1: somebody running.
- 53:18Speaker 2: It's not at all.
- 53:19Speaker 1: If a person running away and you shoot him down,
- 53:22Speaker 1: it's not self defense. It's not.
- 53:23Speaker 2: It's not, it's not.
- 53:25Speaker 1: But this is the thing.
- 53:26Speaker 2: This is where we're going out, the testimony of Andy.
- 53:29Speaker 1: And then when y'all chased him, where was the threat
- 53:31Speaker 1: at he wo he picked the bag up and left
- 53:34Speaker 1: out the store. Where was the threat at.
- 53:38Speaker 2: You chasing somebody? Who running so y'all, y'all was more
- 53:42Speaker 2: of a threat than he was. Absolutely, that's not even advisable,
- 53:46Speaker 2: Like if the police would tell you call us and
- 53:48Speaker 2: let us handle, don't chase nobody, because now you're taking
- 53:50Speaker 2: matters into your own hand.
- 53:51Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out what a guilty with
- 53:53Speaker 1: a not guilty verdict came in.
- 53:55Speaker 2: He was that they were able to convince the jury
- 53:59Speaker 2: that it self defense. They were able to make. That
- 54:02Speaker 2: makes sense. They were able to help the They were
- 54:04Speaker 2: able to convince the jury that Rick was protecting his son.
- 54:08Speaker 1: The twelve jury's what anybody was black?
- 54:10Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but they were able to convince them
- 54:15Speaker 2: that he was protecting his son.
- 54:17Speaker 1: That narrative alone was.
- 54:20Speaker 2: The scene I never heard nothing about. I never heard
- 54:23Speaker 2: nothing about that nigga say he had a gun allegedly
- 54:27Speaker 2: with a laser on it, allegedly. Now this is the thing.
- 54:30Speaker 1: Did they come up in court? I never heard anything
- 54:33Speaker 1: about that. Or it wasn't hard just to show the
- 54:36Speaker 1: jury that is was a black man that I thought
- 54:38Speaker 1: was stilling out my store. Now, listen, this is the thing.
- 54:41Speaker 2: The night before, Cyrus posted a picture of him holding
- 54:47Speaker 2: a gun.
- 54:48Speaker 1: The night before.
- 54:49Speaker 2: So you take that evidence and you're trying to like
- 54:52Speaker 2: plant the seed in the mind of the jury.
- 54:54Speaker 1: This is what this kid about.
- 54:56Speaker 2: This is what this kid is about. Meanwhile, this nigga
- 54:58Speaker 2: Rick Child is on camera slamming motherfuckers in his store,
- 55:05Speaker 2: fighting kids, fighting kid. I've seen the video fighting kids.
- 55:09Speaker 1: I ain't know nothing about that, fighting kids.
- 55:12Speaker 2: A couple of the kids, bro Black fighting kids.
- 55:17Speaker 1: This nigga put me next to Carmelo Coup. It was
- 55:20Speaker 1: my kid, he would be dead.
- 55:21Speaker 2: I mean, of course, this nigga rich Child has shot people,
- 55:26Speaker 2: shot at people at that store before, so there's some
- 55:30Speaker 2: type of this is what he do this It's a
- 55:34Speaker 2: fucking foot you can trace this ship. So if anything,
- 55:37Speaker 2: I feel like this nigga has a has a past
- 55:40Speaker 2: of aggression. He should not be getting off as innocent
- 55:43Speaker 2: not guilty.
- 55:45Speaker 1: Because that whole he's sixty, he run his slow, his
- 55:49Speaker 1: son out ran him. It's like, really with the shooter,
- 55:55Speaker 1: Yeah it was the shot from the front or the back.
- 56:00Speaker 1: He was shot in the back.
- 56:01Speaker 2: He was shot in the back, Cyrus, Yeah, shoting the back, right,
- 56:05Speaker 2: So how do you have time to how is his
- 56:07Speaker 2: self defense if you shot him in the back The
- 56:11Speaker 2: thing about court, and we know this already. Court is
- 56:14Speaker 2: not about.
- 56:18Speaker 1: Justice.
- 56:19Speaker 2: It's a game. It's a game that can be manipulated.
- 56:22Speaker 2: Like everything else in America. It's about what you can finesse.
- 56:25Speaker 2: It's not about the rules. It's about what you can prove.
- 56:29Speaker 2: If you can't prove it, then it doesn't it. Justice
- 56:31Speaker 2: is Justice is interpretable, you know what I'm saying.
- 56:36Speaker 1: Or maybe he wasn't trying to steal. Maybe he felt
- 56:38Speaker 1: he was being racial profile man, we know that already.
- 56:40Speaker 1: He put the ship back inside. I'd rather spend.
- 56:44Speaker 2: I'm voting. I'm rooting for everybody who's black. I'm sorry,
- 56:46Speaker 2: call me ignorant, I'll be ignorant.
- 56:48Speaker 1: So it is it safe to say, like it would
- 56:52Speaker 1: be no justice in this world for black people in
- 56:57Speaker 1: most cases in America? In most cases? Yeah, because like
- 57:04Speaker 1: what do who we got justice for? Well, George Floyd,
- 57:10Speaker 1: But I feel like should we stand out in the
- 57:12Speaker 1: city they had to do something.
- 57:14Speaker 2: Justice happens for black people in America. I'm not gonna
- 57:17Speaker 2: say that it doesn't because it does.
- 57:19Speaker 1: It does.
- 57:19Speaker 2: It definitely happens. The thing is, though, is that how
- 57:23Speaker 2: many times I don't know? It doesn't matter My point
- 57:26Speaker 2: is that it happens. But the thing is, we are
- 57:29Speaker 2: living in a system that is inherently predatory.
- 57:33Speaker 1: The ones that chased that guy out, they got convicted
- 57:35Speaker 1: with tom I don't even know. Let me see, I
- 57:40Speaker 1: don't even know. Do they get convicted. I don't even know.
- 57:53Speaker 2: But people get off on shit all the time, you
- 57:56Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like people win, Black people win cases.
- 57:58Speaker 2: It happens. But the thing is is like that, that
- 58:01Speaker 2: is the that's the minority, not the majority.
- 58:05Speaker 1: What I hate. White people get killer, walk inside a
- 58:09Speaker 1: church to kill a whole church, and is he mentally ill?
- 58:13Speaker 1: Black man killed? He's a thug.
- 58:15Speaker 2: That's what I mean about justice being negotiable. I mean,
- 58:17Speaker 2: it's justice is interpretable. He mentally and mentally ill.
- 58:22Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do it. I'm a thug for sure.
- 58:26Speaker 2: It's crazy, for sure, because you're not that complex as
- 58:30Speaker 2: a person.
- 58:30Speaker 1: He's complex though. It's like, oh he was molested as
- 58:34Speaker 1: a kid. Oh he was beaten by his dad, he
- 58:37Speaker 1: was bullied, he went to he went through all this,
- 58:40Speaker 1: He went through all of this conditioning that led him
- 58:42Speaker 1: to being here. He was a victim.
- 58:44Speaker 2: And because listen, like I said, Kyle Rittenhouse it's pictures.
- 58:47Speaker 2: This nigga was crying on that stage. Solt that ship.
- 58:51Speaker 2: I said it too, if it was my last chance,
- 58:53Speaker 2: sold that ship and they seen the babyface white boy
- 58:56Speaker 2: in him and they believed him.
- 58:57Speaker 1: With the tears. When you was traveling with this ship
- 59:01Speaker 1: rather already had it site what what you wanted to do?
- 59:03Speaker 1: This is what I'm bro. This is what I mean about.
- 59:06Speaker 2: Like I'm a realist. I make the most sense of
- 59:09Speaker 2: the situation knowing what it is. Black people got to
- 59:12Speaker 2: play the game knowing it's a disadvantage, just like playing it.
- 59:14Speaker 2: It's like playing a video game with your cousin and
- 59:16Speaker 2: you got the fucked up controller and the buns don't
- 59:18Speaker 2: really match like that. You know, you gotta work that
- 59:20Speaker 2: to yo.
- 59:21Speaker 1: You have to. That's just what it is. Putting like
- 59:23Speaker 1: dam mean, we always go lose.
- 59:26Speaker 2: No, because that's the no. Because we've been winning like
- 59:31Speaker 2: that and we lose a lot, We lose a lot,
- 59:34Speaker 2: but the wins that we've won, we have to win
- 59:37Speaker 2: it like that.
- 59:38Speaker 1: And so we do win and we're going to continue
- 59:41Speaker 1: to win.
- 59:42Speaker 2: But it don't But listen, if you if anybody is
- 59:46Speaker 2: looking for something you're not. If you looking for a
- 59:49Speaker 2: peaceful America. Stay sleep, don't wake up.
- 59:57Speaker 1: Live here.
- 59:57Speaker 2: If you're looking for that, yeah, stay asleep, because that's
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: just that's just not realistic. We are at a disadvantage.
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: We always have been at a fucking disadvantage. Absolutely do
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: we not that is normal for us. What steps do
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: you feel, like black people we should be taken.
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: I think black people need to.
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: Continue focusing on aggregating power in every way possible, meaning
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: that the people who have a desire to be in
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: law keep pursuing that ship, the people who have a
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: desire to learn AI keep pursuing that ship. The niggas
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: who want to be I don't even want to say
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: police officers because I think police officers that that that
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: bleeding blue shit really corrupt niggas. But the niggas, but
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: the niggas whoever desire to But it's someone that it is,
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: it is, it is, it is, it is. I can't
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: say all of them like that, So it is I
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: do have to give the ones that give them. If
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: you a good cop, any color, you are, salute to you.
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: I salute to you because you put your life on
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: the line every day.
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: And on the right side that want to just see
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: you justice and do right by the people, and all
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: that salute to you. I will not put all y'aut
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: the same bracket for.
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: The people whoever desire to take the hippocratic oath and
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: be a doctor and nurses and heal people. Black people
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: need to aggregate power. We also need people who are
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: not trying to be fucking famous. We need niggas who
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: just want to build. I'm talking about earn your leisure,
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Niggas like that. That's how
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: you help black people. Absolutely, that's how you help Black people.
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: And even then it's still gonna be. It's gonna be jaded,
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: it's gonna be it's not gonna be fair. The playing
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: field is gonna be uneven for us. It's still gonna be,
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: But this is this is how you do it.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: And ship man, it's just like really not really like
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: I mean, it's like hold your head and try your
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: best to stay out the way.
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: It's two cases we just talked about that studies ground
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: in one day and ran for his life. It's a
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: million more. And guess what one in thirty five years
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: and one with his life. It's a million more. Bro
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: That that didn't get the coverage. It's a million board.
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: But what I say is this a man different cases.
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: What I say is like, man, trust trust God, and
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: I say, try to live king. That's what I say.
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: Live black king, man, Try to live black.
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: King man, trust God, try your best, do your best, live,
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: live live, and try to stay out of trouble. Bro
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: try to stay out of trouble. And the thing is like,
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: whatever you do, try to do it as smart as
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: you possibly can. If you find yourself with your back
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: against the wall, sometimes you ain't got choices. It's all
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: it's pure instinct. It's not about doing the smartest thing.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: There was no smart option. I understand that, but if possible,
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: don't put yourself in position to let these niggas do
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: whatever they want to do with you, because that's all
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: they weighing on.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: It's all they weight on.
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: If there's another option, there's another way, if you can
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: finesse it, if you can freak it, if if if
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: it can be done, I would advise you to do
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: that because again, they already gonna make it hard for you.
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: But my thing is less mitigated becoming worse. Pretty much,
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: what we're saying, just try to make your own. King,
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: just trying to make your own. It sound crazy.
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: Just try to make your own.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: Yeah, make your own because Black people have been trying
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: to make it home since since fucking the eighteen hundreds.
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: Nigga's like two cases that we wish both kid both
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: met Black kings could have made it home and damn,
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: make your own. Just make your own. I really don't
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. Just make your own.
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: I don't know. It should have just even crazy when
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: you got a kid, a boy at that that's walking that,
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: walking around with drags, walking around with the best, It's
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: like it's a battle, bro. But the difference with mine
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: is I'm going to walk, Bro. I'll put it all
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: on the line for my child. Bro. Fuck a podcast
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: for money for a party promoting fuck life. I'm putting
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: it on the line for my child. Bro. Should is crazy, though,
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: So Carmelo, hold your Head, King, Cyrus Rested Peace King,
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: and many more and all the other ones that never
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: got the coverage that we don't know about that's really
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: going through the ship every day. Man, Just live King
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: and it is another episode of the collab of the
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: Blama Nasci podcast. Are Halfway Up? Man, until next time. Man,
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: just lift king man were out. Mm hmmm we are
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: man that should She is a bet